Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast. He is about to blow
Speaker 1: your mind. Welcome to another edition to the Around the
Speaker 1: League Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I'm joined
Speaker 1: as always buy a room full of heroes, Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, and Greg Rosenthal. What up, boys, he d
Speaker 1: how you doing? I just noticed wesleyan is wearing a
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks hat. I thought you were a team agnostic
Speaker 1: I am, but it was a free hat and I
Speaker 1: like the color. I was gonna say, it looks like
Speaker 1: a guy that recently started working at the NFL can
Speaker 1: get the employee discount, and said, you know what, I
Speaker 1: like that hat. I'm going to put it over my head.
Speaker 1: Was courtesy of Bear Heiser, who adds some kind of
Speaker 1: connection to an equipment farm or something of random equipment
Speaker 1: and you act like everyone knows who Bear Heiser is.
Speaker 1: He's an editor for the NFL and he just mysteriously
Speaker 1: walked into the room one day, into the newsroom with
Speaker 1: a box of hats like they fell off a truck,
Speaker 1: and Christopher multa sante from the Sopranos, picked it up
Speaker 1: and brought it in. It was a little eighty but
Speaker 1: I got a Jets hat, so it was nice. Well,
Speaker 1: he did a nice jobby. He brought hats specific to
Speaker 1: our team with the teams that we like. He knew
Speaker 1: enough with West. I guess you could choose among any team.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to take five minutes looking through hats.
Speaker 1: I saw one that was blue, said that's that's for me.
Speaker 1: It's like when I came by your desk and dropped
Speaker 1: off a Dante Stalworth Cleveland Brown's jersey that I saw him.
Speaker 1: You know, that thing has been floating around ever since
Speaker 1: some stepped on brayl and Edward's foot back. Somehow it's
Speaker 1: in my in my desk right now, but it will,
Speaker 1: as it always does, will end up on your chair.
Speaker 1: I think we have a wind Settler's Stalworth jersey trivia
Speaker 1: contest coming now. I don't want Mark ever to be
Speaker 1: part to the part with that because I love how
Speaker 1: much he hates it. Um, all right, so let's get
Speaker 1: to work. So okay, Rich, how you doing? By the way,
Speaker 1: I'm great? How are you guys? She sounds under the weather.
Speaker 1: K Ridge before the show started, said Hey, are any
Speaker 1: of you guys sick? And they were like, oh no,
Speaker 1: and she went, damn, you do have a special glow.
Speaker 1: Though after your Eagles the other night, you know, I
Speaker 1: got a tweet saying me, Kay Rich is gonna be
Speaker 1: tough to deal with at the office tomorrow. So I
Speaker 1: know that k Rich phenomenon is she is not even
Speaker 1: close to the most tough to deal with Eagles related
Speaker 1: individual in our office, is she Greg. See, I am
Speaker 1: sick and under the weather, but I'm musc linked through
Speaker 1: it because I'm so happy that in week one we
Speaker 1: had an amazing win. In the whole first half, I
Speaker 1: was excited and jubilant, and then the second half not
Speaker 1: so much, but we still got the wind. That's all right.
Speaker 1: That was k Rich, congratulations. Feel better. Um, we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna need you a little later on though, So
Speaker 1: just maybe drink a power Aid and maybe an energy
Speaker 1: bar of some kind. That was a tease. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk a little ego tease. Yeah, So let's go out.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna talk a little bit about some
Speaker 1: bigger takeaways, big picture takeaways from week one as we
Speaker 1: moved into week two. Now, uh, we're do the news
Speaker 1: of Crystal. We're gonna do a little talk about some
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks. What we saw from some of the younger
Speaker 1: guns in week one? Can we include Brandon We didn't
Speaker 1: in that category. No, just subject for a moment. It's
Speaker 1: just not that interesting. And of course some Thursday night
Speaker 1: football talk. But let's start. Let's start with some bigger
Speaker 1: takeaways on Sunday Night, because now we have a Sunday
Speaker 1: Night podcast, which people are very excited about. We did
Speaker 1: more instant analysis on the games of the day, but
Speaker 1: now that we have a couple of days to digest it,
Speaker 1: I just want to go around the room and just
Speaker 1: see what you guys think, more like a big picture takeaway.
Speaker 1: We will start with the men they call the Boss,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, and I watched the Falcons and Saints over
Speaker 1: the week and it just struck me how bad their
Speaker 1: past protection was and how bad their past rush was.
Speaker 1: And it's really hard to win in the NFL if
Speaker 1: you can't run rush the passer and you can't protect
Speaker 1: the pastor. And I think it's gonna be a problem
Speaker 1: for Atlanta all year. If the Saints can get that
Speaker 1: much pressure on Matt Ryan and they struggled that much
Speaker 1: to get to Drew Brees, I mean, they really weren't
Speaker 1: near him the entire game. I think that's going to
Speaker 1: be a store that plays out over the course of
Speaker 1: the season, and they're gonna have a tough time winning
Speaker 1: that division again. I think that's gonna be a three
Speaker 1: team race. Those were the two concerns about the Falcons
Speaker 1: going into the season. Uh, they they failed to get
Speaker 1: Richard Seymour. Maybe that would have helped. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think um Drew Brees had a perfect quarterback rating when
Speaker 1: he was blitzed. That's a problem. Didn't it just look
Speaker 1: like the old Saints. You throw Kenny Stills in there
Speaker 1: and doesn't make a difference. You throw a new left
Speaker 1: tackle out there, it doesn't make a difference. They kind
Speaker 1: of just look like the same thing. They look the
Speaker 1: exact same. Um. We heard talk that mark Ingram was
Speaker 1: gonna be used more. That's not gonna happen. Pierre Thomas
Speaker 1: is a better back, he fits the offense better. Sprowls
Speaker 1: is all over the place. They're the same offense, except
Speaker 1: Stills is better than the third receiver they had last year.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to finally retire the mark Ingram is finally
Speaker 1: going to break out stories after this year because I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure that people are going to give up he
Speaker 1: might break out with a different team. Yes, are we
Speaker 1: going to give Rob Ryan any credit for uh scheming
Speaker 1: up way to slow down the Falcons in week one?
Speaker 1: Is he going to make a difference there? I'm giving
Speaker 1: him credit. Why I mostly brought up Bad Santa only
Speaker 1: because I love the story that he went into the
Speaker 1: uptown dive bar in New Orleans after the game Miss
Speaker 1: May's and handed the bartender a hundred dollars and say
Speaker 1: bye round for everyone, and he just got blitzed. It
Speaker 1: was pretty I've been It's great. I've been in Mismay's
Speaker 1: many times. Not a place you want to be at
Speaker 1: four or five in the morning. A hundred dollars that
Speaker 1: will buy one dollar per call drink at Miss Mays.
Speaker 1: A hundred dollars will buy eight drinks in l All.
Speaker 1: That depends where you are. It might not even do that.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, so, Mark, what did you think about that?
Speaker 1: The game that I watched pretty closely yesterday was Jets
Speaker 1: and Bucks, and it struck me that, sure, it seems
Speaker 1: like you forgot no, no, no, I almost did for
Speaker 1: a minute. It was, actually, I thought, an interesting game,
Speaker 1: not necessarily extremely well played by her team, but especially
Speaker 1: not Tampa Bay. You know, over the offseason, I took
Speaker 1: a look at Tampa and thought they gotta I liked
Speaker 1: their coach, They've got a lot of parts in place.
Speaker 1: This might be a team that can make some noise
Speaker 1: in the division. Well, they're gonna need to come out
Speaker 1: this week looking completely different because against New York, I
Speaker 1: felt that Doug Martin, especially who I think is really
Speaker 1: the core of that offense, couldn't get anything going. Their
Speaker 1: offensive line was completely overpowered by New York. They don't
Speaker 1: have a tight end that you can put anywhere in
Speaker 1: the formation to add as a blocker to make up
Speaker 1: for the guys they're missing. Martin was completely frozen at
Speaker 1: the line. And the biggest issue, frankly is in a
Speaker 1: division with high power quarterbacks, Freeman just looks like he's
Speaker 1: flat out regressing on that opening drive. He looked confused,
Speaker 1: He looked like completely lacking command. Now credit goes to
Speaker 1: the Jets to some degree, but Tampa could not They
Speaker 1: could not establish anything. It was very disturbing to watch.
Speaker 1: Couldn't I could not believe. And we talked about this
Speaker 1: little bit on Sunday, but I I just couldn't believe
Speaker 1: that Josh Freeman in the beginning of the game, after
Speaker 1: an entire preseason of preparation. When the headset goes out
Speaker 1: in his helmet, they have to burn a time out
Speaker 1: and get called for I think two delay of game penalties.
Speaker 1: It just was him in a nutshell. And it also
Speaker 1: it makes you wonder, how you know him being stripped
Speaker 1: of that captain status, what's going on in that locker room,
Speaker 1: because you saw a lot of weird stuff going on
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. I I didn't think highly of the
Speaker 1: Bucks going into the season. I really could see them
Speaker 1: really falling off the table. Well, they have a player's
Speaker 1: only meeting today, I believe it was Pro Football Talk
Speaker 1: reported there was a player's only meeting. Some players concerned
Speaker 1: that maybe the captain's vote was rigged, which is something
Speaker 1: we always hear. Supposedly it's always rigged. Coaches just kind
Speaker 1: of choose that they want to be captains. But these
Speaker 1: are not the things you want to be reading about
Speaker 1: a week two. They have the Saints this week in Tampa.
Speaker 1: That's a big game for them because if they go
Speaker 1: oh in two, suddenly you know, the vultures start circling.
Speaker 1: Do you know what the problem was with the headset.
Speaker 1: They had circus music piping through. It couldn't hear anything else.
Speaker 1: The Jets are happy that you're talking about a different
Speaker 1: team when talking about I set on Twitter las night.
Speaker 1: I was up until like two thirty in the morning
Speaker 1: cause I got him from Soft but I was still
Speaker 1: amped up. So I'm watching film and I'm like, uh,
Speaker 1: I need to get asleep. Let me put on Jets
Speaker 1: Bucks And it didn't disavoid the first series. I don't
Speaker 1: know the last time I saw a third and forty situation.
Speaker 1: The Bucks offense was one prap fall after another. It
Speaker 1: was third and thirty five. The Jets declined to penalty
Speaker 1: would have been a third and forty. Freeman looked awful.
Speaker 1: Doug Martin hit the worst game I've ever seen him play.
Speaker 1: Vincent Jackson looked great, but his Greg pointed out also
Speaker 1: got caught from behind by a linebacker on a play
Speaker 1: that could have won the game. And it's also a
Speaker 1: game in which um Josh Freeman felt like he didn't
Speaker 1: know what was going on. It looked like a poorly
Speaker 1: coach team. You know, you watch all those sort of
Speaker 1: problems with penalties and not lining up. I always think, well,
Speaker 1: that's a team that's not really very well coached. They
Speaker 1: have a first time offensive coordinator in Mike Sullivan, and
Speaker 1: they're struggling. So last year it looked like they were
Speaker 1: really well coached and disciplined. Is Greg Siano's college? Uh?
Speaker 1: A spree to cored type thing? Is that we off
Speaker 1: I don't know that they were that well coached on offense.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're just getting youngery again. They did have some
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris like traits in that game. Do you think, though,
Speaker 1: we don't want to completely overreact. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: an do it no no no, if there's reasons to
Speaker 1: be because they really really looked that bad, But I
Speaker 1: don't know. Week two seems to balance things out West.
Speaker 1: What was your big takeaway? Can I have one general
Speaker 1: thing and one specific thing? I don't know. What do
Speaker 1: you think? Yeah, he's pretty good at this? Yeah go ahead, okay,
Speaker 1: A Peer's My general thing is we saw Week one
Speaker 1: have five more touchdown passes than any week in NFL history.
Speaker 1: The majority of those, it seemed, came in the nationally
Speaker 1: telefies games of Broncos, Ravens, Packers, Forty Niners, Eagles, Redskins, Texans,
Speaker 1: Chargers in the other game games we saw some great
Speaker 1: front sevens. Brown's Dolphins. Both teams were just getting after.
Speaker 1: The quarterbacks looked great. Uh, Chiefs. I know everybody's gonna
Speaker 1: say it was just the Jaguars. One reason why it
Speaker 1: was just the Jaguars because the Chiefs played so well.
Speaker 1: Don Terry Po was great at nose tackle justin Houston.
Speaker 1: A couple of secks. Dereck Johnson was everywhere. Eric Barry
Speaker 1: was really good in the secondary. Uh In. The Jets
Speaker 1: played well. Their their front seven was in the backfield
Speaker 1: all game. The Panthers played great. They kept the Seahawks
Speaker 1: down all game until the conservative play calling came back.
Speaker 1: But the front sevens were great this week. Is that
Speaker 1: your specific and your general? That was my general thing. Well,
Speaker 1: passing yards were up, it was a record Dave record
Speaker 1: week for passing yards, but rushing yards were down twenty
Speaker 1: three uh yards per game compared to last year. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't just that teams aren't trying to rush, it
Speaker 1: was that they weren't effective. There was just a lot
Speaker 1: of guys getting stuck. I guess it just doesn't surprise
Speaker 1: It wouldn't surprise me more if this hadn't been the
Speaker 1: most you know, crazy passing week in terms of touchdowns.
Speaker 1: With everything that we knew coming out of last year
Speaker 1: and what teams are trying to do these days, wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been a surprise that had been you know, ten
Speaker 1: touchdowns less than last year's Week one. Just two guys
Speaker 1: went over a hundred yards. So that's that seems to
Speaker 1: me a little flukey. Is you could that possibly happen again? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean it's possible, but I think that these things
Speaker 1: balance out. It's it's a small sample size. I think
Speaker 1: it's definitely every year becomes more pass first, but I
Speaker 1: agree that that's that will balance out. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: happen on a regular basis. What's your specific one? So
Speaker 1: the Vikings Lions game, Harrison Smith one of our making
Speaker 1: the Leap Guys, one of our top five making the
Speaker 1: Leap Guys the NFL. Since Ed Reid and Troy Paula
Speaker 1: Malle Paula Malu are on the back nine of their careers,
Speaker 1: we don't really have a dominant safety. I think Harrison
Speaker 1: Smith could be that guy as soon as this year.
Speaker 1: I know we love Earl Thomas two and Eric Weddle's
Speaker 1: underrated every year. I think Harrison Smith could be the
Speaker 1: best safety in the NFL. I think last year, I
Speaker 1: mean I got, I got, I should say stuck. But
Speaker 1: they were actually enjoyable to watch the I did a
Speaker 1: lot of Vikings games on Sunday, and Smith stood out
Speaker 1: from very early on. He looked comfortable right away, and
Speaker 1: I think that's a position that it's like he either
Speaker 1: got her or you don't. And he right away it
Speaker 1: seemed to be making plays. He changed that defense. He
Speaker 1: was everywhere in coverage and in the run game, made
Speaker 1: open field tackles to stop first down several times. Well,
Speaker 1: that's why we had him in the top five. Looks
Speaker 1: like we got one making the leap right at last.
Speaker 1: Because he's a big hitter, but he's really good in coverage.
Speaker 1: He can really do it all, which most most safety is,
Speaker 1: even a d read type, is known for either his
Speaker 1: you know past defense or his big hits. But Harrison
Speaker 1: Smith can do everything. Well. We had Lamar Miller too,
Speaker 1: and he has just been since pretty good. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about David, don't don't forget about David Wills. A more
Speaker 1: quick thing from that game, Reggie Bush I thought looked
Speaker 1: the best. He's looked since he's been in the NFL,
Speaker 1: and the coaching staff used him better than any coach,
Speaker 1: even better than Sean Payton did in New Orleans. That
Speaker 1: that screenplay, I've never seen him run that fast in
Speaker 1: the NFL. He turned on the Jets and beat angle
Speaker 1: was on defenders. That's another guy like Forte who looks
Speaker 1: stronger to me this year too. He just looks thicker
Speaker 1: and like he he his speed was was something different.
Speaker 1: I mean he that play was amazing. That touchdown. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'll give you my takeaway. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: not we can't make enough of what the Eagles did
Speaker 1: on Monday night. Uh, it's really possible. It could be
Speaker 1: the real deal with this Chip Kelly offense. Uh. It
Speaker 1: was funny why in that first quarter, especially in the
Speaker 1: first half in general, when they were just uh just
Speaker 1: tearing up Washington. What was going on on Twitter with
Speaker 1: the announcers were saying? I thought Mark Sessler actually on
Speaker 1: Twitter best summed up the excitement and frankly hysteria of
Speaker 1: the moment with his tweet thirty one teams riding horses,
Speaker 1: Eagles riding a spaceship. Um. Now, possibly a little bit
Speaker 1: of hyperbole, in there. It always goes back to spaceships.
Speaker 1: It is, it does. It's funny you should say that,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, so what do we think about this?
Speaker 1: Is this? Is this going to really work? Are we?
Speaker 1: Is this a revolution? As they say, Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I was the only one that picked the Eagles to
Speaker 1: win the division here, not to pat myself back, but
Speaker 1: I totally just did that. You guys all had them
Speaker 1: last and Chris had them last. So it was one
Speaker 1: game enough to change your guys opinion. I'm a little nervous.
Speaker 1: I'm a little nervous about my five and record. I
Speaker 1: did pick him to win that game, and it did
Speaker 1: change my mind. As far as the division, I think
Speaker 1: they're probably going to finish ahead of the Redskins and
Speaker 1: the Giants. And let's just say, I mean, okay, yes
Speaker 1: they look great, but they didn't quite um prove to
Speaker 1: anyone they know how to take care of a lead
Speaker 1: with this type of offense. Washington came very close to
Speaker 1: really getting back in the game. They did get back
Speaker 1: in the game. And number two, everyone everybody's talking about this,
Speaker 1: how is Vic going to stay upright when he's running
Speaker 1: this many plays? By the end of that he's never
Speaker 1: played sixteen games. The way this offense is set up,
Speaker 1: it's like you have to play thirty two games. I
Speaker 1: just don't see it. And and the next guy in line,
Speaker 1: is he gonna be able to keep the offense moving
Speaker 1: the way Vic has done so far? To answer your question,
Speaker 1: if I could go back and take the Cowboys out
Speaker 1: of number one, put the Eagles in there, I would, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would, because listen, I I think Dan makes a
Speaker 1: good well, no, I think it's it's it work. What
Speaker 1: we saw work. The question is with any team, if
Speaker 1: you lose a couple of guys, you know, the Eagles
Speaker 1: aren't going to be the same football team. But actually
Speaker 1: the second half what it showed us and I think
Speaker 1: teams are going to catch up to some degree. I
Speaker 1: remember back in the old tech mobile days, my brother
Speaker 1: used to play with like the run and shoot oilers.
Speaker 1: You just go up and down the field, and I
Speaker 1: would wheel out one of the better running teams and
Speaker 1: I would let the clock run out between every six
Speaker 1: yard run that I would eat up the entire quarter
Speaker 1: and just keep him off the field. The Redskins had
Speaker 1: a ton of turnovers in the first half. They were
Speaker 1: a complete disaster, but they sustained drives in the second
Speaker 1: and it was like Philly was not the same football team.
Speaker 1: Well for the Eagles, I think it just comes back
Speaker 1: to is Vic good enough. It's not so much of
Speaker 1: the number of plays, it's the plays he's unnecessarily getting hit.
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't end up running that many plays
Speaker 1: in that game. He missed a number of open throws
Speaker 1: in the first half and the second half, or they
Speaker 1: could have had more points. So he has to find
Speaker 1: a way to stay healthy and and I think be
Speaker 1: more effective. To me, the game didn't change anything. They're
Speaker 1: gonna be tough to deal with every week, but they're
Speaker 1: gonna be very up and down. The best thing about
Speaker 1: them the second half that you mentioned where they let
Speaker 1: the Redskins back in it. That's the difference between Chip
Speaker 1: Kelly and most coaches. After the game, he said immediately,
Speaker 1: I should have kept my foot on the gas pedal.
Speaker 1: I learned my lesson. We're gonna do things differently. It's
Speaker 1: this in greg Ciano saying I'm still gonna rush the
Speaker 1: quarterback with no seconds left on the clock because we're Rutgers.
Speaker 1: He learned his lesson. You know, he and I think
Speaker 1: that's Chip Kelly's most most redeeming quality. Alright, So that
Speaker 1: is that's just week one of the season that we're
Speaker 1: we got sixteen more of these in the playoffs. Very exciting. Um,
Speaker 1: Crystal behind the glass, it's still little loose. I hope
Speaker 1: you guys enjoyed that theme music that you just heard.
Speaker 1: Oh it's there, all right, guys. So starting up, Texans
Speaker 1: head coach Gary Kubiak announced that Arian Foster and Ben
Speaker 1: Tate will split the Texans backfield carries. Now I'm a
Speaker 1: fantasy owner and he's on my team. I'm very disappointed
Speaker 1: in this news, and I don't get that I heard that.
Speaker 1: Actually I wrote a post yesterday and one of our
Speaker 1: colleagues came out to me and say, say, it ain't so,
Speaker 1: But like, didn't we all see this the writing on
Speaker 1: the wall with this. When you picked Arian Foster in
Speaker 1: the last week of August, we already knew that Tate
Speaker 1: was going to have a defined role in this offense.
Speaker 1: Well you know who didn't though, is probably seventy people
Speaker 1: that play fantasy football that don't read every single, you know,
Speaker 1: news blurb coming out of Houston, where you think, look
Speaker 1: at Foster's being that guy. But I just think it's
Speaker 1: a great thing for the Texans. They fell apart down
Speaker 1: the stretch last season against better football teams. Keep Foster fresh.
Speaker 1: The question for Tate can you stay healthy. He's not
Speaker 1: proven that he can do that in the past. Let's
Speaker 1: keep a little perspective here, he said for now. For now,
Speaker 1: they're gonna split carries because Foster's rusted. He missed offseason,
Speaker 1: he missed camp, he missed preseason. Ben Tate was faster
Speaker 1: the other night. Aaron Foster is a better player. He's
Speaker 1: going to get his job back. They're gonna use Tate
Speaker 1: like they did in two thousand eleven. He'll get maybe
Speaker 1: eight to ten, eight to twelve touches a game. But
Speaker 1: this is in a situation where he's going to get
Speaker 1: more carries than Fosters. Well here's the thing, though, in
Speaker 1: three weeks, if Tate is still faster than Foster and
Speaker 1: they've done it for a while and it's worked out well,
Speaker 1: then maybe Tate does earn that role where they're splitting
Speaker 1: touches because you never know when when a running back
Speaker 1: is going to fall off. Okay, Rich, what else is
Speaker 1: in the news? All right? Next of a team that
Speaker 1: looked very, very sad. In Week one, Giants head coach
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin calls running back David Wilson a marked man
Speaker 1: after talking about his little fumbling problem a little Well,
Speaker 1: what do you guess think he has no choice to
Speaker 1: but to play him? So what's the difference. I mean,
Speaker 1: they signed Brandon Jacobs. You can't play Brandon Jacob's significant
Speaker 1: snaps this weekend. You have Derrell Scott who's injured, not seriously,
Speaker 1: but Pison has to still be the guy. And yeah,
Speaker 1: the fantasy owners don't freak out about, well, you ken
Speaker 1: freak out about David Wilson. And Mark and I are
Speaker 1: owners of Wilson and are Alison bree team. But he's
Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to redeem himself now if he
Speaker 1: puts it on the carpet again against the Broncos, all
Speaker 1: bets are off. Who are they gonna play if he
Speaker 1: puts it on the carpet again. Brandon Jacobs has washed
Speaker 1: up well. And I was saying to Dan, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised that Brandon Jacobs is unemployed a week from
Speaker 1: now or two. Anyways, I'm not sure we'll even stick
Speaker 1: around Wilson. What he's good at isn't going to disappear.
Speaker 1: I mean, what he what his abilities are, and what
Speaker 1: he's able to do. If he, you know, two or
Speaker 1: three times a game long runs breakaway, that's not gonna change.
Speaker 1: But I mean, Coughlin is just trying to get this
Speaker 1: guy to be a complete back, and I don't think
Speaker 1: he's He's not there in terms of past protection. Do
Speaker 1: you know who two of the most fumble prone backs
Speaker 1: earlier in her careers were, well three, Tiki Barber, Adrian
Speaker 1: Peters and Walter Payton. It's an overrated issue. The Giants
Speaker 1: would invite Tiki Barber into the building to help David
Speaker 1: Wilson if t Barber wasn't such a hated band, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't my Tiki over in my house either, Okay, Rich?
Speaker 1: What else is in the news? Alright? Some Earsay news
Speaker 1: called owner Jim Earsay is demanding better protection of quarterback
Speaker 1: Andrew luck tread lightly here, boys, I like it when
Speaker 1: Jim Mercy just demands things. You know from his Twitter pulpit.
Speaker 1: You wrote this post. I mean, he just he just
Speaker 1: kind of declared or else. I what what is the
Speaker 1: or else in this situation? I like it too. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's going to drop some hammer. He loves
Speaker 1: his coaching staff in his front office. But listen, like,
Speaker 1: what what's what's not? What's not sensible? Here? Luck is
Speaker 1: the centerpiece of your organization. I think he was hit
Speaker 1: more than any other quarterback last season. They want to
Speaker 1: see that number decrease. That makes sense to me. Did
Speaker 1: you watch the game? How how did it look? It
Speaker 1: looked like last year like they looked they dropped Luck
Speaker 1: into the middle of a war zone and asked him
Speaker 1: to not get sacks four times. Underrated topic is that
Speaker 1: Anthony Costanzo has been terrible. He's been one of the
Speaker 1: worst left tackles in football, and the Raiders went through
Speaker 1: the season with no pass rush in any of their
Speaker 1: four games. The first game there, they beat Costanzo like
Speaker 1: a drum. I just want to say I love everything
Speaker 1: the owners say, including Jim Marseille, the man hatter, anything
Speaker 1: else in the news carriage. Last thing, free agent receiver
Speaker 1: Brandon Lloyd reportedly rejected six offers. Hmm, so it looks
Speaker 1: like he's going to retire. I guess, well, I wonder
Speaker 1: what how reliable is this report that he got six offers?
Speaker 1: Because this was a league source from Pro Football Talk,
Speaker 1: because I thought it was because he was a locker
Speaker 1: room weirdo. I think it's a lawyer. We don't really
Speaker 1: know what locker room lawyer means. He's in a locker
Speaker 1: room weirdo. He we saw that report player he's in
Speaker 1: the middle of a conversation with another player and told
Speaker 1: the guy, you know what, I just don't feel like
Speaker 1: talking to you anymore. What happens if you are yeah,
Speaker 1: locker room weirdo is accurate. He has been known as
Speaker 1: a locker room lawyer. What happens when you're not in
Speaker 1: a locker room anymore and you're not actually certified as
Speaker 1: a lawyer? Do you exist at all? Then you're just
Speaker 1: walking down the middle of the street aimlessly. Well, I
Speaker 1: was wondering what he did to the to Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and the Patriots did not get a phone call, so
Speaker 1: maybe he did get a phone call, because they're pretty
Speaker 1: desperate right now for receivers. Did he say six offers
Speaker 1: from NFL teams are just supposedly they're six real not offers,
Speaker 1: but they reached out to him, and apparently he's telling
Speaker 1: teams he is not mentally or physically prepared for the
Speaker 1: NFL grind and he's thirty two. He played ten years.
Speaker 1: It was, you know, an okay career. He led the
Speaker 1: NFL and receiving a two thousand ten. But other than that,
Speaker 1: he was kind of a disappointment. But he's probably rich.
Speaker 1: I liked with another teammate said about him when they
Speaker 1: were doin the story in the Boston Globe for why
Speaker 1: he wasn't going to be resigned, and now that got
Speaker 1: just a different cat. Um. Is that all, Crystal? That
Speaker 1: is all for today? Thank you, k Rich get your rest.
Speaker 1: Okay Um. One thing we didn't bring up, by the way,
Speaker 1: only because we can do it because it's our podcast.
Speaker 1: We did not bring up and DOMI con Sue his
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars fine, But I did want to just
Speaker 1: open the floor to Mark Sessler. As I was working
Speaker 1: out a post in the newsroom. Mark had a theory
Speaker 1: about Sue about his plan because you're a little it's
Speaker 1: the saturation of the Sioux News. It's not it's my wishes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what what was that again? I just was telling Dan
Speaker 1: that there well, and I think we all have these players.
Speaker 1: He's someone I would like to put into like a
Speaker 1: one way rocket ship you like that, like little fuse
Speaker 1: at the bottom of the match and he just he's gone.
Speaker 1: Can he take the jets with him? Right? We all
Speaker 1: have maybe that you know, we can discuss. We all
Speaker 1: have that guy we want to put in that ship
Speaker 1: that basically you never hear from it. And then my
Speaker 1: question was if you was this, are you sending him
Speaker 1: to to die to perish? Well, I don't know where
Speaker 1: he's gonna go, but he's not going to be part
Speaker 1: of the NFL news cycle. What's gonna happen is there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of debate like should we bring
Speaker 1: Sue back to Earth? And then it will be coming
Speaker 1: right back at you. Do you think we can get
Speaker 1: Ben Watson's opinion on that? Very soilarious? Like I don't
Speaker 1: know if you've ever seen that, I have seen silarious
Speaker 1: growth Sue in there is this based on a feeling.
Speaker 1: By the way, it's again it's a wish. Its just
Speaker 1: it's a wish. So al right, okay, well, let us
Speaker 1: know if if you're gonna try to fall through on that.
Speaker 1: But it seems dangerous to that guy's well, sounds like
Speaker 1: I'm Marvin the Martians Kit um, alright, So what we're
Speaker 1: gonna be doing a bunch of I guess recurring feature posts.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's one way to put it. One of them
Speaker 1: will be written by Greg Rosenthal, will be tracking in
Speaker 1: addition to Greg's QB buzz Index is not the correct term, okay,
Speaker 1: quarterback Index. He'll also be doing a weekly post on
Speaker 1: some of the young quarterbacks third year pros and below.
Speaker 1: Uh So, maybe this will be a good time. Greg
Speaker 1: will throw the floor to you, do you want to
Speaker 1: give us any thoughts about some of the young guns
Speaker 1: of the one I think it would be a good
Speaker 1: thing for us to talk about each week because to me,
Speaker 1: it's the the story in the NFL this year is
Speaker 1: this crop of quarterbacks kind of how are they going
Speaker 1: to follow up what they did last year? And I'd
Speaker 1: really include five guys is the main the main guys,
Speaker 1: Luck Russell, Wilson, r G three, Con Kaepernick, and Cam Newton.
Speaker 1: So I just kind of wanted to throw it, throw
Speaker 1: it out to the room, any big impressions. We knew
Speaker 1: what we know what they did last year. We're kind
Speaker 1: of wondering how they're going to follow it up? After
Speaker 1: one week? What are we thinking? I thought last year,
Speaker 1: for the entire season, for me, the question was who's
Speaker 1: better Luck or r G three. For this year, the
Speaker 1: question is who's better Luck or Kaepernick? Or just can
Speaker 1: anyone stop Kaepernick? Is he just gonna be in that
Speaker 1: top shelf of quarterbacks forget young quarterbacks, any quarterbacks. I
Speaker 1: think so because Number one one thing I love about Kaepernick,
Speaker 1: what I've seen already out a week one is that
Speaker 1: you know, they coached him up to operate the offense
Speaker 1: a certain way last year. In what we saw against
Speaker 1: Green Bay was a completely different strategy to some degree,
Speaker 1: and it's like he can't. He's he's capable of doing
Speaker 1: whatever it is they want to do to attack teams.
Speaker 1: And you know, listen, people had some can they go
Speaker 1: to a pass only kind of offense? Yes they can.
Speaker 1: It's it's unfair that Kaepernick has Jim Harbor and Greg
Speaker 1: Roman and Cam Newton has Ron Rivera and Mike Schuler.
Speaker 1: It's true, and I felt for Cam Newton. I felt
Speaker 1: for Cam Newton watching that game. But I also thought,
Speaker 1: you know, there's some similarities between how the Seahawks approached
Speaker 1: things and how the Panthers approached things. They're both defensive
Speaker 1: minded head coaches. They're both run first head coaches. The
Speaker 1: Seahawks did not move the ball much for most of
Speaker 1: the day. They weren't overly aggressive, but when it came
Speaker 1: down to it, which quarterback can just make it happen
Speaker 1: and make plays on his own? And watching that game
Speaker 1: and I've always been a Cam guy. I just realized
Speaker 1: and I knew it from last year two is Wilson
Speaker 1: is that guy? It's not Cam Newton. I think you've
Speaker 1: got to give him some credit for that. Is that
Speaker 1: your way of saying Russell Wilson has the it factor,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. That's that's what I heard. They've
Speaker 1: to have the in factor there. He's stuck in third
Speaker 1: nights after a couple of one yard runs too, And
Speaker 1: who's the one making that play to just a crazy
Speaker 1: improvisational play. It's what I trust Wilson over Newton when
Speaker 1: you yes better coaching staff. As you said, I also think, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Ron Overa came out to acknowledge that the
Speaker 1: Panther has completed three passes over ten yards on Sunday,
Speaker 1: which is just a terrible stat when you have one
Speaker 1: of the most talented quarterbacks alive. I'd be really surprised
Speaker 1: if they don't really push the ball downfield. I feel
Speaker 1: weird basing anything on Newton's progress when he seems to
Speaker 1: be shackled by both the system and the personnel. Who
Speaker 1: do they throw it down field to? That's a that's
Speaker 1: a better question. I mean, it's it's striking as a
Speaker 1: football observer, a football fan of football analysts, when you
Speaker 1: watch the Panthers play nineteen sixties football. We have a
Speaker 1: four point lead, We're gonna take the air out of
Speaker 1: the ball and just get really conservative. And then the
Speaker 1: next night you watch the Eagles and on the first drive,
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly goes for fourth down at the twenty yard
Speaker 1: line because he doesn't want to feel goal. He wants
Speaker 1: a touchdown. And it's just like, as a fan you're thinking,
Speaker 1: as an observer, you're thinking, one team is just so
Speaker 1: far ahead of the other as far as how to
Speaker 1: play football in the century. Well, it's like we went,
Speaker 1: We spent weeks in the offseason looking at Mike Schulan
Speaker 1: saying this is a this a red flag here. We
Speaker 1: know what this guy's about and we don't like it.
Speaker 1: But it's like, you know what, listen nine times out
Speaker 1: of tend. Mike Schulan knows much more than we realize,
Speaker 1: and he's able to adapt. He's been in the league
Speaker 1: for a long time. But then he he you know,
Speaker 1: he spits this game out and it's like, what is
Speaker 1: this team doing? What are they doing with Cam Newton?
Speaker 1: And they have done a terrible job of surrounding him
Speaker 1: with talent. They've they basically bottomed out at wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I don't think D'Angelo Williams is a guy you right off,
Speaker 1: yet on any level, he's still basing the game plan
Speaker 1: around D'Angelo will That's the problem. And it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: you you if you wanted to grow a quarterback, you
Speaker 1: do it the way Sam Cisco and Seattle is done.
Speaker 1: Those also, by the way, physically very talented guys that
Speaker 1: probably would thrive a lot of places. But Newton is
Speaker 1: in a tough position. You know, last year, the team
Speaker 1: that seemed one year ahead of everyone was Washington. They
Speaker 1: didn't look like that on Monday Night. Are we concerned
Speaker 1: at all about Robert Griffin the third this year and
Speaker 1: that offense in general? I say, give him a month.
Speaker 1: He didn't he didn't seem right. He you know, I
Speaker 1: think he was healthy, but his mechanics seemed a little flawed.
Speaker 1: He obviously they weren't designing run plays for him. I'd
Speaker 1: like to see how he looks a month from now
Speaker 1: and see if he's more like the guy that we remember.
Speaker 1: Well said, That's all I would say to Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's this is his preseason. Remember Adrian Peterson, even out
Speaker 1: of first week or two with Minnesota last season, he
Speaker 1: wasn't the guy he bloomed into even by week three
Speaker 1: or four. Same with Rgie Throng term. I totally agree.
Speaker 1: You know, for this season, they're gonna have to win
Speaker 1: games sooner than later. You know, they went they go
Speaker 1: to Green Bay this week that they come back for Detroit.
Speaker 1: You know, you have to figure out what is the
Speaker 1: best way to scheme to win games. As we're getting
Speaker 1: this guy better, it's gonna be tricky for them. One
Speaker 1: of my takeaways from the weekend too, is the Detroit's
Speaker 1: much better than we thought they would be. They're a
Speaker 1: good team right now. Mhm um, Okay, so we have
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes left, do you want Let's get
Speaker 1: a little bit and it's still a little talk about
Speaker 1: Thursday night football wes you. You can leave the room
Speaker 1: if you want right now, it's gonna be a Jet stalk.
Speaker 1: Give me your option if you want to go, if
Speaker 1: you want to. So we we we have a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes. Let's let's get out there. I will say
Speaker 1: as the Jets fan you I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys knew I am a Jets fan. Um, I will
Speaker 1: say that the little hope crept into the room, which
Speaker 1: is very Jets. As I said last week, there are
Speaker 1: two types of Jets teams. The ones that are hopeless
Speaker 1: from the start, which is co tight era some herm
Speaker 1: years um. And then there's the team that you didn't
Speaker 1: think much of and then they suck you in, they
Speaker 1: bury you. I'm really excited this is the one that
Speaker 1: sucks me and buries me. So I have a feeling.
Speaker 1: I don't not saying they're gonna win, but I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a competitive game. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: situation where defense is gonna be hyped up. They play
Speaker 1: well in New England. Uh. And I think that Patriots
Speaker 1: are still figuring things out on offense. And I think
Speaker 1: you put those two things together and it's a one
Speaker 1: score game. I mean, last year's Jets team took the
Speaker 1: Patriots to overtime, right, and I think this is a
Speaker 1: better football team. And I do then last year what
Speaker 1: the Jets are to me, or what the optimists around
Speaker 1: the Jets, and Greg was one of them, that's what
Speaker 1: they are there. They look like a good defensive football
Speaker 1: team that's still figuring out what if anything they have
Speaker 1: on offense. Because I looked at that running game and
Speaker 1: that concerns me because you can't just try to scheme
Speaker 1: your way out of not having a good ground game
Speaker 1: by throwing the wildcat in there. That I'm not just
Speaker 1: trying to poke fun at the Jets, but that it
Speaker 1: wasn't properly used. They pulled Smith off the field on
Speaker 1: his first NFL drive after two nice plays to the
Speaker 1: best two players. Do you know Smith the entire gamer
Speaker 1: on that first drive? Then they put in the wildcat
Speaker 1: ends the drive. I laughed out loud when I was
Speaker 1: watching the game. I saw the wildcat the first time,
Speaker 1: and then I saw it two more times than I
Speaker 1: just kept laughing. Well, concern me, like Chris Ivory just
Speaker 1: looks completely in a fog. To me. That's that's one
Speaker 1: thing where sometimes the preseason can tell you a little
Speaker 1: bit individual players. He he looked rough in the preseason,
Speaker 1: looks slow again. I don't know. If he's not healthier,
Speaker 1: what well I would The only thing I would say
Speaker 1: about Ivory Ivory is he also had a very not
Speaker 1: a great offseason in terms of injuries. Maybe he's gonna
Speaker 1: need some time too, But I agree that he's not
Speaker 1: off to a great start. Hamstrings they can linger. I
Speaker 1: turned on that game hoping to be excited about Geno Smith,
Speaker 1: and I thought it was a discouraging performance considering you know,
Speaker 1: they won the game. He got a lot of credit
Speaker 1: for throwing for some yards. I don't think he had
Speaker 1: a good game. I thought they passed protected very well,
Speaker 1: and yet he was sacked five times and hit eight
Speaker 1: more because he just holds it. I mean, he doesn't
Speaker 1: force the ball, but he just holds it forever and ever.
Speaker 1: And comparing him to EJ. Manuel in their first games,
Speaker 1: maybe it's the coaching, maybe it's the player, but Manuel
Speaker 1: was a lot more decisive, I think a lot better.
Speaker 1: My expectations for Geno Smith were so low that he
Speaker 1: actually surprised me a little bit. He wasn't He wasn't
Speaker 1: a dumpster fire, and to me that was he was
Speaker 1: everything you said there were. There were a lot of issues.
Speaker 1: But he moved the ball once in a while, which
Speaker 1: I didn't even expect him to do. He wasn't a
Speaker 1: turnover machine. He didn't pull an Orlovsky. He was not
Speaker 1: an embarrassment, which is all I really could have asked for,
Speaker 1: is a Jeff what's Jeremy Curly status? Because he was
Speaker 1: He was the best skilled position player on the field
Speaker 1: for them. He was really trying to use him too.
Speaker 1: They seem to want to try to make him like
Speaker 1: a poor man's Tavon Austin to some degree, a very
Speaker 1: poor man's vagrant man. But Curly is out for this game.
Speaker 1: That's a big loss for them. That's a huge loss.
Speaker 1: It's a big loss. Uh. Amondola is doubtful officially, Gronkowski
Speaker 1: is doubtful. Officially. We don't expect to see either one
Speaker 1: of them. We don't know about Aaron Dobson. UH for
Speaker 1: this game with Veren is that with all these injuries,
Speaker 1: do we think the Jets can go in there and
Speaker 1: make it a game? Who's making a hero pick? I mean,
Speaker 1: I got the Jets last time. UH can they make it,
Speaker 1: I need to think about it. I'm very y be
Speaker 1: a competitive game. I mean, we talked about the offense,
Speaker 1: but the Jets defensive line looked really good. Antoine Barnes
Speaker 1: looks like he could be a really nice signing for them.
Speaker 1: They have a lot of depth there, even without Quentin Copeles.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of guys that were getting a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure in that game. Well, they're playing a much
Speaker 1: better offensive line. I could see it being intriguing for
Speaker 1: a half, and then as the Patriots are known to do,
Speaker 1: I think the wheels fall off from New York in
Speaker 1: the second half. You know, I kind of like the
Speaker 1: Jets are. They are going back to their roots under Rex,
Speaker 1: a little bit of an underdog team again, and they're
Speaker 1: easier to root for now than they were the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. Ahead, So get excited, because you know
Speaker 1: that's all I got. Um Okay, So our next podcast
Speaker 1: will be on Friday. We will talk about the results
Speaker 1: of said Jets Patriots game, also breakdown the Week two
Speaker 1: matchups in our picks. I'm not ready to talk about
Speaker 1: the picks because I had a rough Week one, but
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into it. Um but it
Speaker 1: was bad. It was bad. I will be writing the
Speaker 1: intro this week. This podcast is the one that we're
Speaker 1: gonna be pulling sound clips of with this little glow
Speaker 1: in your voice about the Jets on Friday morning when
Speaker 1: they've when the train has been separated into fifteen parts
Speaker 1: and they've lost my forty three points. I I have optimism.
Speaker 1: I'm not like you and the Browns, where you've given
Speaker 1: up all hope. I still believe in my team. But
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. I know how it's gonna turn out. Okay,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, until Friday signing off the mailman, the sizzler,
Speaker 1: the boss k Rich behind the glass, we'll see. I
Speaker 1: got I got big blankets. It's like six degrees or
Speaker 1: I just found out I don't have air conditioning in
Speaker 1: my important sixty degrees and Gregg's. Gregg is one of
Speaker 1: those houses with like a white porch wrapping around the
Speaker 1: entire house, over looking to see