Speaker 1: Failed Round the League Podcast iTunes. Chugger, Welcome back to
Speaker 1: another edition to the Around the League Podcast. My name
Speaker 1: is Dan Hansis. I'm joined by a roomful of heroes,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Mark Zessler, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys,
Speaker 1: Nice to have you back. Yeah, I felt like the
Speaker 1: energy level there was down a little because you're a
Speaker 1: little tired from your Las Vegas weekend. I don't know
Speaker 1: about anything about Las Vegas. It was Nevada. I can't
Speaker 1: go into further detail where I attempted to keep that
Speaker 1: storyline that you were on a business trip in Nevada.
Speaker 1: It was a business trip. Business was taken care of.
Speaker 1: I'm back now, and a nice job. I listened to
Speaker 1: the podcast because I'd like to stay up to date
Speaker 1: even if I'm not around. Nice job by Handsome Hank
Speaker 1: also known as the Notorious d Op. Greg, you did
Speaker 1: a great job, as as the host plowed past the
Speaker 1: forty minute mark, which is a little Peter Jackson moved
Speaker 1: by you. You gotta keep this thing moving, uh and
Speaker 1: then Chris the saying Greg was your favorite because he
Speaker 1: picked the Eagles to win the division. Words hurt. Well,
Speaker 1: you know you're back now, so well to say about
Speaker 1: the Eagles. He still picked the Eagles the last place,
Speaker 1: like everyone else. Actually is the last place. I noticed,
Speaker 1: Stephen in the article you you point out everyone's picked
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and last. I have them, including Handsome hang three
Speaker 1: or four had them in last. But yeah, you you're right,
Speaker 1: I missed your eight and eight. Either way, I'm going
Speaker 1: to remind you from this prediction all all year, and
Speaker 1: bad job by who picked the Cowboys again, everyone I've
Speaker 1: gotten sucked into the Cowboys vortex five straight years. If
Speaker 1: this is the year that they actually do win the division,
Speaker 1: I am going to personally travel down to Dallas and
Speaker 1: take care of some business. Three out of five of us,
Speaker 1: including Handsome Hank, picked the Cowboys to win the division.
Speaker 1: To me, that was very surprising. And yet all I
Speaker 1: got all weekend was all of you out there that
Speaker 1: listened to the show, and we're upset that I picked
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in last place. Cowboys. They were so angry
Speaker 1: that it couldn't believe the people calling for me to
Speaker 1: be fired that I clearly don't know anything about football
Speaker 1: because one of the four of us had the gall
Speaker 1: to put the Cowboys at Cowboys World, We're alright, so
Speaker 1: we are now we're through preseason week three. Uh, this
Speaker 1: is a big week for roster cutdowns. We will start
Speaker 1: with the news and Greg Rosenthal you lead the way.
Speaker 1: It's a little quarterback driven up top of the news. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think let's talk about all three quarterback situations that
Speaker 1: changed in some way over the weekend, starting with the
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders, Terrell Prior and Matt Flynn. This to me
Speaker 1: was the biggest story of the weekend because it was
Speaker 1: so surprising. Westling and I know you know you were
Speaker 1: watching that Raiders game closely. It's what was your your
Speaker 1: takeaways there? Matt Flynn never had a chance behind that
Speaker 1: offensive line, and I guess you know, the whole stadium
Speaker 1: was deflated. They were booing, they were cheering, they had
Speaker 1: the prior chance going. Matt Flynn looked awful and in
Speaker 1: the whole the whole time, you're just watching it thinking,
Speaker 1: why have a game manager for a roster that has
Speaker 1: no defense and can't stop the other team from scoring points.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense to go forward with a
Speaker 1: talent challenge Matt Flynn. So to me, like Prior, was
Speaker 1: the obvious answer, see what you have in him before
Speaker 1: you draft a quarterback next year. And there were a
Speaker 1: couple of plays where defensive ends came in completely untouched
Speaker 1: off the left side of that line and a wiped
Speaker 1: Flynn out. And I think with with Prior, who I
Speaker 1: think is gonna struggle himself. At least the guy can move,
Speaker 1: he can get out of the pocket. I mean Flynn.
Speaker 1: Flynn is, like you said, just a dead man walking back.
Speaker 1: There a few things on this first, just to make
Speaker 1: it clear, Terrell Pryor is going to start the fourth
Speaker 1: preseason game. He's taking all the first team reps this week.
Speaker 1: We don't know for sure that he's gonna start Week one,
Speaker 1: but that is the total expectation. Now would be a surprise.
Speaker 1: I'm just taken by the fact that they signed Matt
Speaker 1: Flynn for all this money. I mean, not a ton,
Speaker 1: but enough to be a starter. They spend the whole
Speaker 1: offseason pointing towards this guy's a starter, and you change
Speaker 1: gears and make it prior the week before the season starts.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just, no matter how you slice it,
Speaker 1: it's the last thing you want to be doing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel bad for Raiders fans too, because they're calling
Speaker 1: for Tarrell Prior, and really, what have we ever seen
Speaker 1: from this guy that tells us that he's even gonna
Speaker 1: be a competitive quarterback. And and with Flynn, he's gonna
Speaker 1: get this could happen to him again, Russell Wilson last year. Now,
Speaker 1: people initially thought it would be Tyler Wilson that would
Speaker 1: end up knocking him out, But now it's gonna be
Speaker 1: Tarrell Prior, which is really almost the ultimate indignity. It
Speaker 1: is going to happen again. They've given him an out
Speaker 1: with the elbow injury for a second straight year. That
Speaker 1: happened last He's not been healthy then for potentially over
Speaker 1: a season. Yeah, so he's either injured or they're telling
Speaker 1: their telling their fans he has an injury now, so
Speaker 1: don't expect to see him. I've talked about sample size
Speaker 1: a lot in the preseason. So many judgments are made
Speaker 1: on little game action. Matt Flynn only dropped back nine
Speaker 1: times in that game, and the change is made nine times. Now,
Speaker 1: Two of those players were interceptions, one was a fumble,
Speaker 1: one was a sack. So half the plays, you know,
Speaker 1: we're just catastrophes. Whereas Tarrell Pryor. I went back and
Speaker 1: watched that game and really his game was about four
Speaker 1: or five plays that he made. He would he didn't
Speaker 1: play that well. He played miss some throws, made some throws,
Speaker 1: but he made two throws down the field, and he
Speaker 1: made two incredible scrambles. And that's it. It's like those
Speaker 1: four plays for Flynn, four for Prior, and that that
Speaker 1: decides your week one. Started starting to feel even better
Speaker 1: about my one and fifteen pick for the Raiders because
Speaker 1: this has the potential to be outright dumpster fire softball
Speaker 1: pants are safe? Greg? What else is in the news. Yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking of which, the Buffalo Bills had about as bad
Speaker 1: a weekend as they could have. Uh. First of all,
Speaker 1: Kevin Cobb, you know, gets knocked out, has a con rush,
Speaker 1: and we don't know when he's going to be back.
Speaker 1: There are reports that his injury could be career ending.
Speaker 1: The Bills say they're not thinking about that, but it's
Speaker 1: clear he's gonna be out for a lengthy bit of time.
Speaker 1: So Jeff Toole is the guy, the undrafted rookie that
Speaker 1: they're planning to start Week one. If ej. Manuel is
Speaker 1: healthy enough to start, he'll start. So we'll find out.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be one of those guys and Matt Liiner
Speaker 1: and Thad Lewis from Your Brown's former Brown fad Lewis
Speaker 1: will compete to start to back up Jeff Tool potentially.
Speaker 1: So wow. Well, I think Doug Morone called it exciting.
Speaker 1: This is an exciting development in a way that he's like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's exciting that we're going to start this
Speaker 1: mystery man under center. But I think the thing that
Speaker 1: they lost Gilmore to at cornerback Sevon Gilmore are making
Speaker 1: the leap candidate who we were so in love with,
Speaker 1: is gonna be out six to eight weeks, which is
Speaker 1: almost as big a loss. It's bigger, I would say
Speaker 1: than Cobb. Honestly, yes, it's a bigger lost than cop.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's like on defense, we're not going to
Speaker 1: really get to see what the real plan was on
Speaker 1: defense out of the gate because of that injury, and
Speaker 1: we certainly aren't going to see anything close to what
Speaker 1: the plan was on offense. So, you know, the Bills
Speaker 1: were this exciting team to some degree because they're gonna
Speaker 1: change things up and it's gonna be what maybe six
Speaker 1: weeks into the season before we get any sense of
Speaker 1: what they what they are. Gilmore had been in the
Speaker 1: Beat Writer's Choice for Training Camp m v P after
Speaker 1: showing some shutdown corner traits down the stretch last year.
Speaker 1: You could make the argument that he he was going
Speaker 1: to be their best defensive player this year, or the
Speaker 1: most important defensive player. That to me is a much
Speaker 1: bigger loss than anything to do with the quarterbacks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be starting Leodis mckelviden, Cresden Butler. Butler his
Speaker 1: Steelers reject those, So those are your starting cornerbacks for
Speaker 1: the Bills. But I don't think it's that big a
Speaker 1: deal because a j Manuel still could be back for
Speaker 1: Week one. Either way, they're gonna be in trouble against
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Maybe he's back for Week two. The New
Speaker 1: York Jets, on the other hand, you know they were
Speaker 1: hoping to have their quarterback situation settled by now. Dan
Speaker 1: had to be paying. Did you watch this game? Yes?
Speaker 1: I actually I have a Nevada business story. Um if
Speaker 1: you guys want to want me to share that about
Speaker 1: the incident where he was injured. Mr Mark Sanchez, Um,
Speaker 1: I had I had been. I was seated at a
Speaker 1: table for a business meeting in the middle of the
Speaker 1: lobby of this hotel and uh, I was getting dealt
Speaker 1: some papers from the person running the business meeting. And
Speaker 1: as soon as I look up and I see Sanchez
Speaker 1: get destroyed um and knocked the ground writhing. I looked
Speaker 1: down and the business person is holding alright, a blackjack
Speaker 1: was showing blackjack and Sanchez is writhing on the ground,
Speaker 1: and I just I went up to the hotel room.
Speaker 1: That was it. And that's it. Yeah, you know that's
Speaker 1: being a Jets fan. Yeah, that's life. That's life. That's
Speaker 1: life is a Jett This was that was surreal though,
Speaker 1: really um because as someone that has followed this team
Speaker 1: so closely, and now was that press conference and the
Speaker 1: victrue all from a friend of the old old a
Speaker 1: t L debate club moniche Meta in particular his tweets
Speaker 1: towards Ryan calling for his head and saying how unprofessionally
Speaker 1: was and then Ryan's press conference which was just an
Speaker 1: absolute train wreck. I mean, this team, it's they're gonna
Speaker 1: be fun to watch from maybe people that like, you know,
Speaker 1: to see tragedies unfold, because this is not going to
Speaker 1: be good. And week for this to be happening in
Speaker 1: week three, it just blows my mind. Yeah, like it's
Speaker 1: more of a calamity, a dumpster fire or a tire fire.
Speaker 1: Westland didn't even want to talk about the Jets quarterback
Speaker 1: situation on the show today. Well despite it, you know,
Speaker 1: it's an important thing, a team starter. I feel like
Speaker 1: the Raiders and even the Bills a little bit, this
Speaker 1: is virgin territory for quarterback battles. You know, we I
Speaker 1: don't mind being you know, nobody wants. If you're Columbus
Speaker 1: discovering America, you don't want to hear about the freaking Vikings.
Speaker 1: You want to be the first one there. This Chets
Speaker 1: quarterback situation has been discussed all off season over and over.
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's no longer virgin territory. I think that's fair.
Speaker 1: But more from the Rex Ryan angle, it seems to
Speaker 1: me like they're just allowing him to just hang himself.
Speaker 1: And it's like it to me. To me, I almost
Speaker 1: feel for Rex Ryan because I think he's been put
Speaker 1: in a situation that he's you just can't win. Well,
Speaker 1: how about Mark Sanchez getting he gets rushed into that
Speaker 1: game against the second string line when he was supposed
Speaker 1: to be the start, Like who's but who's making the calls.
Speaker 1: That's what backups do. They come into the game late.
Speaker 1: No one was calling for Ryan that they were throwing
Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett, that he wasn't the backup at that point,
Speaker 1: but he might have been. I mean, he's one of
Speaker 1: the guys competing. He wasn't. It's been over for him
Speaker 1: ever since the butt fumble. Yeah. Yeah. By the way,
Speaker 1: it's been a really bad week weekend for the deeply
Speaker 1: mediocre QB club between Matt Flynn, Kevin Cobb, and Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 1: The only it's about as Matt Leiner. He you know,
Speaker 1: he's feeling pretty good. He's got a job, he's back.
Speaker 1: I saw where Jeff Tool watched Liner in the National
Speaker 1: Championship game in eighth grade. That makes me feel I mean,
Speaker 1: with with Sante's I don't think it really matters because
Speaker 1: they wanted Geno Smith to start Week one anyways. And
Speaker 1: you don't understand why there's some outrage in terms of
Speaker 1: the way they that the situation was managed or No.
Speaker 1: I don't think the outrage that's New York media. It's
Speaker 1: just oh so over the top. It was called one
Speaker 1: of the worst decisions in modern football history. A guy
Speaker 1: got injured. Tom Brady said it, I risk getting injured
Speaker 1: every day when I get in my car on the
Speaker 1: way to work. When they asked about playing too much
Speaker 1: in the you know what happens. It was unfortunate obviously
Speaker 1: in the sequence that it happened. But I don't think
Speaker 1: it's that there are a lot of reporters taking this
Speaker 1: whole jet situation personally for some reason. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you're I think you're right about that. Um okay, So
Speaker 1: one of our most popular stories we do um after
Speaker 1: these preseason games, and I guess we're gonna be doing
Speaker 1: it through the regular season. What we learned? Alright, so
Speaker 1: check out Round League Blog for the most recent what
Speaker 1: we learned. But we're also going to do in a
Speaker 1: podcast version. It used to be called, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: three takeaways. Now we're gonna call what we learned, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna start out with the great Mark Sessler, what
Speaker 1: did you learn from week three of the preseason. Well,
Speaker 1: I actually, uh came into work on Saturday to watch
Speaker 1: one game and it was it was Cults Browns. And
Speaker 1: my takeaway has nothing to do with, uh, the thing
Speaker 1: where you think I might go with Cleveland. It has
Speaker 1: to do with the Cults actually, and I saw Cleveland
Speaker 1: make a major mistake on defense, which I think other
Speaker 1: teams might end up doing this season. And they paid
Speaker 1: complete and full attention to t Y Hilton, understandably because
Speaker 1: I think he's from a defensive coordinator side. The guy
Speaker 1: is a dangerous weapon, but Reggie Wayne basically ate them
Speaker 1: up all day long. They left the guy in single coverage.
Speaker 1: I think that my takeaway was Indianapolis is an offense
Speaker 1: number one with potentially Hall of Fame quarterback, which we've
Speaker 1: talked about before, but more weapons than I realized a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago when I left them as an
Speaker 1: a f C team that won't make the playoffs. I mistake.
Speaker 1: I think I made a mistake there. The more, well
Speaker 1: what we are. We we've made our picks early, and
Speaker 1: you learn with each week what teams are and how
Speaker 1: they're gonna play, and the Cults to me look like
Speaker 1: an absolute sleeping giant on offense. It should be recognized
Speaker 1: that Damn was at the vanguard of this movement advising
Speaker 1: fantasy football players about the plethora of weapons on the
Speaker 1: indian Indianapolis. I think it was true. Who is covering Wayne?
Speaker 1: Is that Joe Hayden or no, it was not Hayden,
Speaker 1: I mean, but also half the time it was you
Speaker 1: know that Cleveland has major issues at safety, and they
Speaker 1: they had they were had a new starting cornerback out
Speaker 1: there on the across from Hayden. They were using a
Speaker 1: couple of different people, but they just it's it's like
Speaker 1: you can't just decide to commit to one guy. And
Speaker 1: they didn't even have their two titles, say, they didn't
Speaker 1: even have Dwayne Allen and Kobe Fleaner on the field
Speaker 1: when scary performing people think too when he's not the
Speaker 1: first guy, when they when they put him out there
Speaker 1: and he used your second or third or fourth option, Yes,
Speaker 1: you're asking him to replace Donnie Avery. That's a position
Speaker 1: he can he can handle. My thing I learned this
Speaker 1: weekend was the Denver Broncos running back situation is more
Speaker 1: unsettled now than I think it was going into training camp.
Speaker 1: Monty Ball looked very ordinary. I thought, uh for another
Speaker 1: week of preseason action. He dropped the pass in the
Speaker 1: red zone. They had him playing really late in the
Speaker 1: game with the third stringers, which I thought was interesting
Speaker 1: just kind of seeing what he would look like. Ronnie
Speaker 1: Hillman's fumbled three straight weeks. No Sean Moreno played great,
Speaker 1: but didn't play for almost the whole first two quarters.
Speaker 1: So they were entering the season and they're playing in
Speaker 1: ten days and kind of like the Ravens. My takeaways,
Speaker 1: these two teams playing on opening night have a lot
Speaker 1: of unsettled positions. We don't know who the running back
Speaker 1: is and in Denver got to figure that out. I
Speaker 1: got to see if Champ Bailey can get back on
Speaker 1: the field. Derek Wolf and the Ravens have a lot
Speaker 1: of questions up in the air too. So these are
Speaker 1: two teams expected to do really well, but I think
Speaker 1: heading into the season they're just still figuring things out
Speaker 1: for the first few weeks. I think with Denver two
Speaker 1: on the running backs, like you cannot have someone in
Speaker 1: there that cannot block protect Peyton Manning and that's been
Speaker 1: an issue last year with Hillman especially. It seems like
Speaker 1: it's an issue with Ball right now in terms of
Speaker 1: his learning curve and is it Moreno in the end
Speaker 1: that is the most reliable guy they have. Well, Monty
Speaker 1: Ball took first team reps at practice Monday, so that's
Speaker 1: the big development. While Ronnie Hillman walked around the practice
Speaker 1: with a football under his arm. Wherever he went he
Speaker 1: got the Mrs treatment, So that might say it out.
Speaker 1: They drafted ball because they want him to be the guy.
Speaker 1: And I think Moreno will have a sizeable role. But
Speaker 1: there's Sturfton for and you know, I think it's a
Speaker 1: big thing to watch that first Thursday is Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: doesn't really have that much of a running game. They
Speaker 1: threw thirty five passes in one half of football with
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. This backfield reminds me of the Redskins last
Speaker 1: year when fantasy footballers are going into the season with
Speaker 1: no idea if it's gonna be Roy Halloo, Evan Royster
Speaker 1: or Alfred Morris. And we find out from our guy
Speaker 1: Dan Helly on the morning of the first game at
Speaker 1: ten thirty in the morning, Helly breaks the story that
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris is starting maybe the Broncos. We don't find
Speaker 1: out until that Thursday. And how about Chris Wesley given
Speaker 1: Dan Helly some love now on NFL Total Access Back
Speaker 1: then was working for CSN and that is somehow still
Speaker 1: sticking around your big nogging over there stuff the mail
Speaker 1: man West, what's your take away? You know, I'll talk
Speaker 1: about the Bears more in our NFC North preview in
Speaker 1: a few minutes, but um, this is with the obvious
Speaker 1: caveat that it's only August. The two teams i've noticed
Speaker 1: that look a lot better than I expected going into
Speaker 1: the preseason, or the Bears and the Jaguars. So I
Speaker 1: would say that the Jaguars have much better offensive weapons
Speaker 1: than you think. Justin Blackman looks sleeker this year. Uh.
Speaker 1: He came into the season last year out of shape
Speaker 1: and you could see it on game tape. He couldn't separate,
Speaker 1: couldn't run into the catch. He looks like a much
Speaker 1: different receiver this year. Also, look yeah, see it. So
Speaker 1: they're losing for four games. Ace Sanders is a major
Speaker 1: upgrade on any slot receiver they've had. Maurice Jones Drew
Speaker 1: looks looked better this week than he did the week before. Uh.
Speaker 1: And they're going as much as we talk about the
Speaker 1: Bills and the Eagles up tempo offense, the Jaguars are
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. They're They're leaving these defined reads
Speaker 1: for their quarterbacks one decision, get the ball out of
Speaker 1: their hands, and then get into the huddle quickly. Again.
Speaker 1: They're moving the ball up and down on their first
Speaker 1: team defenses. Granted it was the Eagles first team defense,
Speaker 1: and everybody's moved the ball on them. I think last
Speaker 1: year the Jaguars are a team that had the least
Speaker 1: play count per game, or they're right in that mix,
Speaker 1: and that was not good for Blamee Gabbert. And yes
Speaker 1: he didn't even play this last game. But it's like
Speaker 1: they're another team. And we talked about this last week
Speaker 1: that they're trying to form that offense around what fits
Speaker 1: what maybe potentially limited talents playing Gabbert has, but what
Speaker 1: would work for him. And yes, it's like it's a
Speaker 1: way to get their guys open quicker and get that
Speaker 1: ball out quicker. And it last two weeks they have
Speaker 1: looked like a different football team. I still have a
Speaker 1: hard time, though, buying in on the Jaguars, as long
Speaker 1: as they have that quarterback situation in place. Maybe to
Speaker 1: me they're the team that when they finally do cut
Speaker 1: loose on Gabbert and they find someone else, they're a
Speaker 1: team that can get better in a hurry. But I
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen. I should add this, Uh,
Speaker 1: their skill position talent is pretty good. The starters on
Speaker 1: offense better than people realize, but they probably have less
Speaker 1: depth than anybody. If if somebody goes down, they're in
Speaker 1: big trouble. We've been talking about Jordan Todman. Watching him
Speaker 1: in the preseason looks pretty good. Jordan Todman. He had
Speaker 1: always been just a guy, but Greg has noticed him
Speaker 1: jumping off the screen. I guess I need to see it.
Speaker 1: He fried Eagles last. I need to see Jordan Todman
Speaker 1: against the first Drink defenders before I get excited by
Speaker 1: his four six five speed. Looking good in preseason. To
Speaker 1: every Jaguars fan out there that says we never talked
Speaker 1: about the Jaguars and we always dump on the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: this was positive ja Jaguars t Absolutely. I want some
Speaker 1: credit just that that they should all seven of you.
Speaker 1: You should be happy. I would disagree. They have one
Speaker 1: of the most insane fan bases. When that gets good,
Speaker 1: they're gonna go crazy. They're sensitive little guys. Alright, man,
Speaker 1: we were really pumped up about the Jaguars. Alright, good, alright,
Speaker 1: So moving forward, we have now our division by division preview.
Speaker 1: We are network almost done. We're getting close to the
Speaker 1: light at the end of the tunnel. We have this today,
Speaker 1: we have the NFC North. One big question for each
Speaker 1: of the gentleman in the room, and uh, I will
Speaker 1: start it with the man they call the Boss, Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: He was he's not ready. I was trying to wave
Speaker 1: it off. There was an army, but I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: I'm it's gonna go what I got the Chicago Bears
Speaker 1: right here, right, Yeah, we get started somewhere else and
Speaker 1: we could swing it back to you know, my question
Speaker 1: with the Chicago Bears is, even with Lovey Smith gone,
Speaker 1: do we still think this is a upper echelon difference
Speaker 1: making defense? That's just quiet. You're not exciting about these
Speaker 1: I was expecting to go in a different direction, but
Speaker 1: you're expecting offense. We can get to that. I think
Speaker 1: they have the best defense in the division and I
Speaker 1: think it will make a difference for them in this season.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call them upper echelon. I think they're still
Speaker 1: they still have age issues. Weren't they really, really, really
Speaker 1: good last year? You know what I mean? The first
Speaker 1: nine or ten games, they were arguably the best defense
Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think you could extend that out
Speaker 1: even into pretty deep into the season. They had running
Speaker 1: backs averaging a hundred fifty yards per game through like
Speaker 1: a six game stretch late in the season. Um, and
Speaker 1: you could say that coincided with all the injuries and
Speaker 1: then the offense not being able to keep up. You
Speaker 1: know that. I'm sure there were some tempo issues where
Speaker 1: the defense was on the field too much, So maybe
Speaker 1: that was a factor. Is is Bryan or Locker being gone?
Speaker 1: Does that make them a better defense? Was that the
Speaker 1: best thing that could have happened to him being out
Speaker 1: of the picture. Well, now you've got second round rookie
Speaker 1: John Mr Boom busting about that coming up? That's Western's
Speaker 1: push pushing that nickname real hard. Mr Boom Boston a
Speaker 1: little shaggy shot. Every time you look up, he's getting
Speaker 1: fined for a big hit. You know he's we gotta
Speaker 1: add the Boom into the Bostic the lead. It's going
Speaker 1: Chris Berman on us. I don't know how I feel
Speaker 1: about this trend. Bostics look good in these games though,
Speaker 1: he looks pretty good. Well you could. I think the
Speaker 1: Bears have a great draft haul in. You know, I
Speaker 1: have this friend on Tybee Island. Uh, his name is
Speaker 1: a j but he's he's one of these informed football
Speaker 1: fans of this pleasure to talk to. And we've been
Speaker 1: talking about the Bears for two or three years and
Speaker 1: he new two or three years ago. Okay, in the
Speaker 1: draft they have to fix the offensive line and they
Speaker 1: have an aging defense. So we've been talking about this
Speaker 1: every year, and their drafts haven't come through. Emory might
Speaker 1: have fixed it in one draft. They've got the whole
Speaker 1: right side of their line now as rookies with Kyle
Speaker 1: Long and Jordan Mills, and they look really good. Forte's
Speaker 1: average in ten yards to carry, Cutler's had time to throw.
Speaker 1: The offense is moving the ball, and then, as Greg mentioned,
Speaker 1: Bostick is an upgrade on her Lacker at middle linebacker. Already,
Speaker 1: you hope to have three starters come through any draft.
Speaker 1: They might have three Week one starters coming through this draft.
Speaker 1: I also think on offense real quick, all Sean Jeffrey
Speaker 1: looks like a different player to me in what we've
Speaker 1: seen so far, and that the Bears always to me,
Speaker 1: I can never take him seriously. They'd go thirteen and
Speaker 1: three with a great defense, but you knew they were
Speaker 1: gonna get bounced in the divisionals because They had these
Speaker 1: pip squeak nonentity wide outs for like a decade and
Speaker 1: an offensive line, and you're right, in one season they
Speaker 1: suddenly have Brandon Marshall, All, Sean Jeffrey Martella spent it
Speaker 1: not bad at tight end, and an offensive line. And
Speaker 1: also Forte looks to me revived and stronger than he
Speaker 1: did a year. Again, I agree, well, he was. He
Speaker 1: had some ankle entries last year, so maybe that's part
Speaker 1: of it. But he looks. Maybe it's how high he's
Speaker 1: wearing his socks. He looks. Love Smith never had a
Speaker 1: top twenty offense in his entire running and that was
Speaker 1: not a coincidence. That's going to change, which is hard
Speaker 1: to do. All they gotta do is be average, and
Speaker 1: I think this defense could carry them. Uh Stephen Paea,
Speaker 1: I don't know, how do you say? Is that how
Speaker 1: you say his name? He looks great, Henry Melton, Julius Peppers.
Speaker 1: I mean they have depth. They're on the defensive line,
Speaker 1: which is hard to find. They have a lot of
Speaker 1: pass rushers up front, and Lance Briggs is still great.
Speaker 1: I saw them blitzing off the corner and doing big things.
Speaker 1: Melt Tucker was a pretty good coordinator people forgetting Jacksonville
Speaker 1: a few years ago, and he has a lot of
Speaker 1: talent to work with here. Okay, Wes, why don't we
Speaker 1: talk a little Packers? Well, I believe three of the
Speaker 1: four of us. I haven't heard dance opinion much on this.
Speaker 1: Believe the Packers offense is going to be transformed a
Speaker 1: bit with Eddie Lacy as a running back threat. My
Speaker 1: question is on the other side of the ball, is
Speaker 1: this a championship caliber defense? I think so. I think
Speaker 1: it's the same relative group of talent, as talented as
Speaker 1: they were when they won the championship before. I think
Speaker 1: in the secondary you have Casey Hayward, Morgan Burnett, a
Speaker 1: lot of good talent there. It's a very deep secondary.
Speaker 1: I think they're counting on young players to make an
Speaker 1: impact upfront, but over top to bottom b J Rodgie Dayton, Jones,
Speaker 1: a J Hawk. I mean, I think it's a talented
Speaker 1: enough group to win. That's my answer. I think they're
Speaker 1: definitely not who they were two years ago when they
Speaker 1: were an epic train wreck. We saw them even get
Speaker 1: better last season. Off of that, I haven't watched enough
Speaker 1: of the Packers defense lately to really chime in beyond
Speaker 1: what Greg said, But I'm not sure they need to
Speaker 1: be a great defense to get double digit wins. Even
Speaker 1: even when they won the Super Bowl, they had what
Speaker 1: sixteen guys on I R. It's like, that's a team
Speaker 1: that has a good mix of young and veteran players
Speaker 1: that can get through any sort of hiccup. Um, But
Speaker 1: I don't think they need I don't. I wouldn't put
Speaker 1: them up there with the Bears, to be honest, I
Speaker 1: say Chicago was a better defense. Is Clay Matthews. Is
Speaker 1: he officially in the Good Year Bad Year Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame with alternating years, and I don't think this year.
Speaker 1: I think he's healthy, He's going to be lights out.
Speaker 1: I think he's one of the top two or three
Speaker 1: defensive players in the in the NFL, and he he
Speaker 1: is such a difference maker. We didn't even mention him
Speaker 1: when talking about the I mean, he alone makes their
Speaker 1: defense so much better. I would say the one thing
Speaker 1: I've noticed from the start of the preseason until now
Speaker 1: is they are a lot deeper on defense than I thought.
Speaker 1: Secondary is pretty deep. I heard Mike McCarthy say his
Speaker 1: defensive line is deeper than any He's had in his
Speaker 1: whole tenure. There, they got Dayton Jones and Johnny Jolly's back, uh,
Speaker 1: Mike Daniels. They look pretty pretty stout up from they
Speaker 1: get their first round pick from a year ago. They really,
Speaker 1: they really need that second pass rusher to emerge, and
Speaker 1: don't they only really need to be the middle of
Speaker 1: the road defense defense. You can get enough stops some
Speaker 1: of the time, it's all about stealing the ball these days.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you hold people. You just have
Speaker 1: to produce the turnover. I will be interested to see
Speaker 1: right out of the gate because they you know, they
Speaker 1: sent Dom Capers and his crew to go learn how
Speaker 1: to stop the read option actually by spending time with
Speaker 1: offensive coaches on how the read option actually runs. And
Speaker 1: right out of the gate they have the Niners and
Speaker 1: the Redskins. We don't even know what the Niners and
Speaker 1: Redskins will do on offense, but it will be interesting
Speaker 1: to see what the Packers are coming into week three.
Speaker 1: I was a little surprised at Capers even kept his
Speaker 1: job after a second straight player. I think many people
Speaker 1: were so. I think he is definitely on the hot seat.
Speaker 1: They have to get better. He's gone. Sessler Minnesota, Vikings.
Speaker 1: One big question, alright, Vikings, I put week six as
Speaker 1: the over under when Christian Ponder is replaced at quarterback
Speaker 1: by Matt Castle, for better or worse. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's an upgrade. I just think the decision will be
Speaker 1: made at week six. I want an over under or
Speaker 1: won't even happen. All this over under talk reminds me
Speaker 1: of my business trip. Who is up? I will? I
Speaker 1: will take the over. I know Greg is probably the
Speaker 1: biggest Christian Ponder detractor in the national media right now.
Speaker 1: I'm not even me and and I am the biggest
Speaker 1: Matt Castle detractor. Ever since he left the Patriots, I've
Speaker 1: never believed he Matt Castle. Yeah, did you see him
Speaker 1: in base? Yeah? You know, I just don't see Ponder.
Speaker 1: We can believe that there might still be some development
Speaker 1: left athletically. He's much higher playing than than Matt Castle.
Speaker 1: Um Castle. I feel like we already know what he is.
Speaker 1: He's a turnover machine, he's inaccurate, and he he doesn't
Speaker 1: really throw well from a muddy pocket, at least with Ponder.
Speaker 1: I mean some of those things apply to him too.
Speaker 1: Maybe he gets better. I just don't see how what
Speaker 1: do you gain by turning this offense over to Matt
Speaker 1: Castle over under a week six you said, I think
Speaker 1: they have they have enough faith and ponder, especially how
Speaker 1: he finished the season before he got hurt, um that
Speaker 1: maybe he would he can make it through Thanksgiving or
Speaker 1: something like that. But I don't know. I I think
Speaker 1: it's very possible he loses his job, and I think
Speaker 1: Castle is just good enough guy that they think he
Speaker 1: could be a spark. It's an experienced guy that's had
Speaker 1: some success. So I think I'll take the over. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if he
Speaker 1: loses the job. I think he'll keep the job a
Speaker 1: little longer than that because just doing the math week six,
Speaker 1: you know, you'd have to be one and four going
Speaker 1: into week six to lose your job. I think if
Speaker 1: you're two and three, you keep it for sure. If
Speaker 1: you're two and four, I could see them doing it.
Speaker 1: I could see them pulling the trigger on you know,
Speaker 1: ponder early if he doesn't show progress, and he has
Speaker 1: really looked poor uh in the preseason. I think that's
Speaker 1: a factor that he hasn't shown that development. I know
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson hasn't been out there, but still a guy
Speaker 1: in his third year. He should be getting better. They
Speaker 1: opened the season on the road in the Division two
Speaker 1: straight weeks, so that's a big test for them right
Speaker 1: out of the gates. They're in Detroit and in Chicago,
Speaker 1: so you better get one of those games or else
Speaker 1: you've got a big, pressure packed home opener against Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Who do you think wins that game? Ponder? Weeden?
Speaker 1: That's I think we need to put. Let's put on
Speaker 1: that game. What would be the odds going into the
Speaker 1: preseason that you would say, Okay, we've seen progress on
Speaker 1: a weekly basis from Blame Gabber, Jake Locker and up
Speaker 1: until this week, Weeden, but nothing from Ponder. Greg's right,
Speaker 1: he's been pretty bad in preseason. That's an actually why
Speaker 1: I asked the question because I think that they did
Speaker 1: a nice job of not a huge Greg Jennings guy
Speaker 1: at this stage, but they surrounded Ponder with more than
Speaker 1: just Adrian Peterson, and we can't say, hey, there's nothing
Speaker 1: there off Cordarrell Patterson pans out. He certainly looks to
Speaker 1: me like it's a complete stud as a pass catcher.
Speaker 1: Then you've got a really solid tight end and Rudolph,
Speaker 1: You've got too very solid wide receivers and you've got
Speaker 1: the best running back on planet Earth? Why should the
Speaker 1: quarterback be the one guy holding the back? And Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I would say if the Vikings front as thinks
Speaker 1: the way I do, which I hope they don't, but
Speaker 1: if they did, I would say that I'm looking at
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson and he's a once in a generation athlete
Speaker 1: and I am not wasting his prime years. He's I
Speaker 1: think he's his age twenty eight season. He probably has
Speaker 1: two or three elite years left. If I feel like
Speaker 1: I need to pull the trigger to try to save
Speaker 1: a season when I know I have that guy in
Speaker 1: my roster, probably do it. That's a relevant point, and
Speaker 1: it reminds me of the Bears wasting eight once in
Speaker 1: generation defense special teams combination on Rex Grossman. I don't wanna,
Speaker 1: don't want to Grossman the situation. Your windows only open
Speaker 1: so long, right, that has to be a considerab how
Speaker 1: much longer is Peterson's peak by this point? You know
Speaker 1: it's tough to get another quarterback in there. That's why
Speaker 1: these decisions, you know, with Ponder, I think it gets
Speaker 1: even worse if you don't get out of the bad
Speaker 1: quarterback early. Well, that was that had to be the
Speaker 1: whole philosophy behind signing Castle. They believe they needed a
Speaker 1: veteran to push him. You know, we can debate whether
Speaker 1: Castle is that guy or not, but I think that's
Speaker 1: what they were thinking. The case for the Vikings is
Speaker 1: a very good defense potentially they were good last year.
Speaker 1: Is a defensive coach? Okay, and I will I will
Speaker 1: do the last question on the Detroit Lions. Uh. You
Speaker 1: guys saw the Patriots game forty nine win. Uh. The
Speaker 1: their front really harassed Brady who finished sixteen and eighty
Speaker 1: five yards. They didn't look good. Should I be getting
Speaker 1: excited about that line? Specifically that front line is potentially
Speaker 1: the dominant, dominant unit that it all comes together this year.
Speaker 1: Get excited. It's Kevin Patrick listening out. There are fifth
Speaker 1: around the league. Member joined full time on Friday. He's
Speaker 1: a Lions fan. Why not get excited? I think they
Speaker 1: could be the best defensive tackle duo in the league.
Speaker 1: Fairly and Sue, I think they're very exciting. I mean
Speaker 1: that Patriots game was a had a lot to do
Speaker 1: with the Patriots suddenly fumbling every fourth time they touched
Speaker 1: the ball, but that is was a fantastic line through
Speaker 1: the whole preseason for the Detroit I don't love the
Speaker 1: linebacking group. The secondary seems very sketchy to me. But
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, like the fact that they went
Speaker 1: out and did the Ziggy answer thing in the draft
Speaker 1: was to me. I love that you cannot have enough
Speaker 1: pass rushers and you could not put enough good guys
Speaker 1: up on your on your front and that turn dominant
Speaker 1: because Ziggy looks for real to me. I think he
Speaker 1: got injured in that game and they just said they
Speaker 1: rubbed mud on somebody part and he was like, back
Speaker 1: in there, that's how they do, even on an artificial turf. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where the mud came from. Maybe they
Speaker 1: have a bucket of mud on the set. I heard
Speaker 1: that on the telecast. I didn't make that up. Used
Speaker 1: to rub snake oil on his arm when he when
Speaker 1: he saw el. Maybe they can get these guys to
Speaker 1: play some offensive line too, and then we have something going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say they're not. It's not even a debate.
Speaker 1: If Sue and Fairly are the best defensive tackle in
Speaker 1: the NFL, they are, Well, they gotta do it fairly
Speaker 1: asked to do it. Here's a here's a fairly stat
Speaker 1: for you. With fairly in the lineup, the Lions have
Speaker 1: allowed less than four yards per carry on defense. With
Speaker 1: fairly out of the lineup, they've allowed over five yards
Speaker 1: per care He's a difference maker. He just hasn't been
Speaker 1: able to stay healthy. And he's kind of a kind
Speaker 1: of a train wreck with all the penalties he's always
Speaker 1: getting in off field problems. You can't ignore that. It's
Speaker 1: interesting that they didn't invest in Cliff Avril. And I
Speaker 1: think the philosophy was Sue and fairly. You can only,
Speaker 1: first of all, pay so many guys. You gotta pay Megatron,
Speaker 1: you gotta pay Stafford. But the bigger thing is Sue
Speaker 1: and fairly make the guys outside look better. Suddenly, Willie
Speaker 1: Young and Jason Jones might look pretty good because those
Speaker 1: two guys inside are so good. All right, Greg, let's
Speaker 1: go around now and do record predictions. All right? Uh?
Speaker 1: In first place the NFC North, I always take him
Speaker 1: to make it to the Super Bowl, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it again the Green Bay Packers as the number
Speaker 1: one seed in the NFC. I'm just giving it all
Speaker 1: away twelve and four. This year, I think the defense
Speaker 1: will be very very good, and they still have the
Speaker 1: best player in football and Aaron Rodgers. I have the
Speaker 1: Lions at nine and seven. I have the Bears at
Speaker 1: seven and nine, and I have a big, uh catastrophe
Speaker 1: season for the Vikings falling all the way down to
Speaker 1: five and eleven for Minnesota. All Right, before I came here,
Speaker 1: I was lying, it's my day off. I was lying
Speaker 1: on a blanket in the park watching some adults who
Speaker 1: should have been at work playing baseball the way all right, Well, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm on a budget. Okay, but uh, I saw
Speaker 1: West tweet that he cannot stand when everyone in the
Speaker 1: fantasy football community thinks exactly alike. And so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: throw one here. I'm gonna throw some of that you
Speaker 1: and I think you're gonna uppose you be opposed to.
Speaker 1: But it's the way I feel from my heart. Bears
Speaker 1: win this division at ten and six, and I don't
Speaker 1: have anyone else in this division making the playoffs. And
Speaker 1: that starts with the Packers missing it at nine and seven,
Speaker 1: the Vikings at seven and nine, and Lions at four
Speaker 1: and twelve. Everything we were about to talk about with
Speaker 1: this offense in Chicago. We didn't quite get to today.
Speaker 1: Is what I I'm starting to see in them. I
Speaker 1: think something we're I think Trustman's offense will be the
Speaker 1: talk of the NFC this season. Well, let's get to it.
Speaker 1: I want to hear what you guys have to say
Speaker 1: about the Bears. Why not? What did we not get
Speaker 1: to about the Bears? Peter Jackson work again? Here we go. No, No,
Speaker 1: we'll put it on the website tomorrow. We'll put on
Speaker 1: the website tomorrow. But I I just I think we
Speaker 1: did touch on to some degree. I think that they
Speaker 1: are going to They've shown us very little. They've shown
Speaker 1: us just a peek at what they're gonna do. I
Speaker 1: think Cutler is a guy who's not necessarily special, but
Speaker 1: he can do anything that you'd ask him to do.
Speaker 1: And looked like a new quarterback the other night. He
Speaker 1: really played well the other night. And as you know,
Speaker 1: the biggest Cutler homer, I'm always expecting that will finally
Speaker 1: turn the corner. I'm hopeful again. It really did look
Speaker 1: good the other night. And you know, Trustman, it's just
Speaker 1: something about him. I like him from the start. I
Speaker 1: don't know why I was. He's the quarterback whisper. This
Speaker 1: record with quarterbacks is unbelievable. We just talked about their defense.
Speaker 1: I think you put two and two together. It's I
Speaker 1: don't know. I see them winning the division. Packers a
Speaker 1: very good team. I have a feeling something weird's gonna
Speaker 1: happen in Green Bay. It's not so much a nine
Speaker 1: and seven comment on their talent. I just think, think something.
Speaker 1: So you're saying injury, no, no, no, just something unexpected.
Speaker 1: I get these feelings. Sometimes you are the leader in
Speaker 1: the clubhouse. Pick now. I think that's not that gutsy,
Speaker 1: is it. I had the Eagles winning, not giving Cesler
Speaker 1: anything West you know when we first started this exercise.
Speaker 1: Since then, I have elevated three teams in this division
Speaker 1: and pushed one of them way down. Wow. I have
Speaker 1: taken the Bears from last place to second place. But
Speaker 1: I'll start at the top. I have the Packers at
Speaker 1: eleven and five winning in division. I feel better about
Speaker 1: them than I did three weeks ago. I have the
Speaker 1: Bears at ten and six and making the playoffs now,
Speaker 1: whereas I had them bringing up the rear before. I
Speaker 1: have the Lions at eight and eight good, and the
Speaker 1: Vikings at seven and nine. I like that. It's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Strong division. The lines at nine, I'm I'm on the
Speaker 1: Lions train to this year. I like the Lions. I
Speaker 1: have the Packers at twelve and four. Sorry, Mark, we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. Bears at ten and six, I like
Speaker 1: them this year, and I like I'm making the playoffs
Speaker 1: a Lion seven and nine I'm not quite in. And
Speaker 1: then the Vikings. I also feel fall to Earth six
Speaker 1: and ten new quarterback next year. Wow, so three of
Speaker 1: the four of us have the Vikings. I think at
Speaker 1: least I think we've spoken on our lack of confidence
Speaker 1: in Christian I think that's the headline headline in your
Speaker 1: wrap up post on this topic on the A T.
Speaker 1: L Blog. I don't know. Yeah, there's that there's three
Speaker 1: or four of us had the Bears out a winning record,
Speaker 1: including you in the playoffs. That was I jumped mind
Speaker 1: from six and ten to ten and six on the
Speaker 1: Bears during this telecast. During this podcast, Yes, I have
Speaker 1: a fickle, fickle man. So let's talk about the most
Speaker 1: popular man in the newsroom today. Wow. Well that's a
Speaker 1: nice segue. Well it's not really me because what happened
Speaker 1: this would happen. A few weeks ago. We were talking
Speaker 1: in the news room. I think it was West Damn.
Speaker 1: It started with the Adrian Peterson wheaties box, right, we're
Speaker 1: talking about Peterson was on the wheaties. Who eats wheaties?
Speaker 1: It became what's the best cereal? And I told Dan
Speaker 1: that Kicks is like eating dried up tumbleweeds in a
Speaker 1: in a cardboard box. I like Kicks. I like Kicks
Speaker 1: in the category that is not sugared heavy sugared cereal
Speaker 1: just like. So that led to Greg's love of frosted miniwheats,
Speaker 1: which are basically miniature sugar coated miniature wicker baskets. We
Speaker 1: were talking one cereal for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: I mean, treaded miniweeds do it all. So this whole
Speaker 1: conversation carries over onto Twitter, and uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: thought the highlight of Twitter was DAMNAE schick. Uh the
Speaker 1: analogy between apple Jack's and Tom Brady. What was that?
Speaker 1: You know? Like Tom Brady, apple Jack's makes those around
Speaker 1: them better, It leaves, it leaves the milk apple Jack's
Speaker 1: does for does for milk? What Tom Brady does for
Speaker 1: young wide receivers. But what we all agreed though, ultimately,
Speaker 1: was that the best cereal was Cinnamon Toast Crunch. I'm
Speaker 1: not in any agreement on and I thought I had
Speaker 1: posted that clearly and made them my number one choice,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people agreed. A lot of people
Speaker 1: chimed in. I guess Greg and Mark do not agree. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not four years old, so so then so then
Speaker 1: I get word that apparently there were multiple boxes at
Speaker 1: my desk. This is while I was on my business trip,
Speaker 1: multiple carton cartons. And it turns out the good people
Speaker 1: Cinnamon Toast Crunch caught word, uh, caught wind of our
Speaker 1: Twitter conversation, and sent fifty boxes to the newsroom of
Speaker 1: Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Uh. So, you know, thanks to General Mills,
Speaker 1: whoever you are, sir, and he's not really a general, well,
Speaker 1: I still respect the hell out of him for sending
Speaker 1: the Serially, we we passed it out around the newsroom.
Speaker 1: We have a couple of boxes just for the A
Speaker 1: t L crew. So General Mills is as much of
Speaker 1: a general as Colonel Sanders as a colonel. I mean this,
Speaker 1: seeing people's faces light up and just the words spread
Speaker 1: around the news room. It was like Christmas morning. Did
Speaker 1: you guys hear about the cinnamon to like people were
Speaker 1: people were talking. You know what's gonna get old for Dan? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've seen this scenario play out. I have a dozen
Speaker 1: times today. Can you guys talk about rolls royces next
Speaker 1: time or beer? Yeah, maybe they'll send you some of those.
Speaker 1: I got that. And I also I feel a little
Speaker 1: bad because I feel like, although I agreed that I
Speaker 1: like cinnamon toast crunch, West was the man that truly
Speaker 1: champion did and I could tell West there's a little
Speaker 1: heat about it. So I defer to you as the
Speaker 1: king of cinnamon toast crunch. If if they want to
Speaker 1: continue to send uh those boxes, send them to Chris Westling.
Speaker 1: We should send out some cinnamon toastcrunch. I know. We
Speaker 1: gotta go soon to whatever listener out there tweets at
Speaker 1: us about cinnamon toast crunch first tonight, Monday night, and
Speaker 1: we'll send you some boxes and we'll spread the love.
Speaker 1: All right, that sounds good. We are out of time.
Speaker 1: Thank you for list sitting on behalf of Westling. They
Speaker 1: call him the mailman Sizzler. They call him the Sizzler
Speaker 1: and Rosenthal. They call him the Boss. So until next time,
Speaker 1: we will see you. On Wednesday, no one called