Speaker 1: M m M. Welcome back to another edition in the
Speaker 1: Around the League Podcast. My name is Dan Hands and
Speaker 1: I'm joined as always by the great Mark Sessler and
Speaker 1: also the great Greg Rosenthal. What is happening boys fifty weekend?
Speaker 1: For YouTube? I was mostly off, but Cessler on Saturday
Speaker 1: posting all day post personal record there. Mark was very proud, Well,
Speaker 1: it's you know it was. It was brisk, I'll I
Speaker 1: will give you that um. And I wasn't expecting because
Speaker 1: I think a lot of the news that came in
Speaker 1: was essentially unplanned. And it's like Dan was on Sunday
Speaker 1: and I texted, I was like, I'm sure it's busy
Speaker 1: for you. Correct, and it was for a stretch, But
Speaker 1: it's like, I think what happened on Saturday was we
Speaker 1: got hit with a string of injuries, and not just
Speaker 1: low level ones but like big names. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you had Dennis Pitt out for the year, busted hip,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin blew out his knee. That's amazing, your issue
Speaker 1: for the Eagles, and we're gonna talk about both those things.
Speaker 1: Also coming up today, we have Rex ryan uh an
Speaker 1: issue with the quarterback whether he has ultimate say, and
Speaker 1: also the quarterback Battle for the Jets and some other
Speaker 1: quarterback battles. UM, all up ahead and we have some
Speaker 1: iTunes update possibly right now. Greg. We we hope to
Speaker 1: be on iTunes, but this is kind of a recurring thing.
Speaker 1: The producers promise us we're gonna be there. Right now.
Speaker 1: We might just be podcasting, you know, into nowhere, but
Speaker 1: hopefully later today everyone that is finding the podcast will
Speaker 1: be able to subscribe and and if not, we'll just
Speaker 1: look like it. Yeah, it's gone from on Twitter, getting
Speaker 1: tweets like positive tweets say hey, guys haven't been able
Speaker 1: to find the podcast? When is it gonna be on iTunes?
Speaker 1: To somebody today tweeted to Mark and I I don't
Speaker 1: believe you guys have a podcast, but it exists. It's
Speaker 1: happening right now in real time, and hopefully by this
Speaker 1: week it will be on iTunes, maybe even by Monday.
Speaker 1: But Rich Eyes and podcast. I just saw an email
Speaker 1: Land that he has now ten million downloads. We do
Speaker 1: not have one yet, but I want to. I want
Speaker 1: to throw it out there. When we do get on iTunes,
Speaker 1: we will have a special reward for wherever is our
Speaker 1: first downloader. UM, I'm thinking it's going to be currently
Speaker 1: the two thousand seven uh Tennessee Titans media guide that's
Speaker 1: being used to hold up my computer computer monitor. And
Speaker 1: also there's a Houston Texans my lar balloon, non inflated
Speaker 1: that has not been claimed in a giveaway in the newsroom.
Speaker 1: I also mail that out. What do you guys think
Speaker 1: about that? Well, you've just motivated our our base group
Speaker 1: of listeners, no question. I mean, it doesn't sound like
Speaker 1: that great of a prize, but people forget two thousand
Speaker 1: seven big year in Tennessee. A lot going on there.
Speaker 1: Hainsworth and plus a mystery personality from NFL Network will
Speaker 1: be signing this media guide. Correct. Yeah, I think we'll
Speaker 1: all sign it. I think we'll all sign and then
Speaker 1: maybe even like put a some type of inspirational message
Speaker 1: and inside. It's really exciting. But we should we should
Speaker 1: get going because black Tie behind the glass is used
Speaker 1: to having to push forward with Damna check on the show. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's having to do that with us now, So we
Speaker 1: should get going into the actual content and let's start Greg,
Speaker 1: why don't you get it started with the fallout of
Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin suffering a torn a c l in Eagles
Speaker 1: practice on Saturday. It's crazy, you know, we can go
Speaker 1: weeks of the NFL season where there aren't big end
Speaker 1: of season injuries that change playoff contenders. And and we
Speaker 1: said it on Saturday, Mark two big time players for
Speaker 1: potentially good teams are now out for the season. Macklin,
Speaker 1: to me, is the lesser injury of the two compared
Speaker 1: to Pitta, because I think they're so deep, not just
Speaker 1: that wide receiver, but especially at tight end. At practice
Speaker 1: on Monday we heard reports three tight ends on the
Speaker 1: field at the same time, sellec the rookie arts, James Casey.
Speaker 1: They're very deep at running back. Maclin is such a
Speaker 1: big figure of that passing game, but it's a new
Speaker 1: passing game, and I do think they can survive without him,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's a big, big loss for him,
Speaker 1: especially Hetty into a contract here. Yeah, And I mean
Speaker 1: Greg wrote a nice piece Saturday night about this that
Speaker 1: framed it that way. But also just that we don't
Speaker 1: know what we're gonna get from Chip Kelly. And it's
Speaker 1: certainly though, isn't a line up two wide receivers and
Speaker 1: throw to them all day long kind of offense? He
Speaker 1: I think from the start was Macklin play was going
Speaker 1: to play a big role in this offense. But Casey
Speaker 1: especially seems to be this X factor that may just
Speaker 1: get more targets, more snaps at this point, more looks
Speaker 1: than he would have. But also that running game is
Speaker 1: going to use a combination that's a deep backfield. I
Speaker 1: know Greg's a big fan of the Eagles backfield number one,
Speaker 1: but it's like they're gonna get Kelly's gonna find a
Speaker 1: way and he's enough time to get around this loss. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubting it's a big loss because
Speaker 1: what Macklin brought to that team, his skill set was
Speaker 1: perfect for what Kelly does. But the one thing you
Speaker 1: also hear about Chip Kelly, and it's very interesting to
Speaker 1: see how this all plays out at this level, but
Speaker 1: he was known as a guy that could take recruits
Speaker 1: that maybe weren't guys that were thought as big time
Speaker 1: guys at Oregon and then Oregon and then turn them
Speaker 1: into uh, productive players in his offense. So we'll see
Speaker 1: if he can do that with some of these lesser guys.
Speaker 1: Do I think Riley Cooper has a yard season in him?
Speaker 1: I don't know, But now he's gonna have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to step up. Cooper did start a few games I
Speaker 1: think it was in two thousand eleven and started three games,
Speaker 1: played very well in those games. He's pretty talented. Damaris Johnson,
Speaker 1: I think is can be more than a return er. Uh.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious what de Sean Jackson does with this
Speaker 1: opportunity because I looked at Macklin versus Jackson as Okay,
Speaker 1: both of those guys are here this year, let's see
Speaker 1: how they fit with Kelly. One of them is back
Speaker 1: next year. Jackson salary goes way up. Macklin is a
Speaker 1: free agent that they were probably fighting to maybe stay
Speaker 1: because you can't pay that much money at wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Now Jackson has a chance really to be that top
Speaker 1: sort of guy. He hasn't shown that he can really
Speaker 1: do that at the NFL level in terms of being
Speaker 1: a dominant number one guy, and this is a good
Speaker 1: chance to. Yeah, you'd have to say that Jackson was
Speaker 1: potentially on the bubble to not make the roster a
Speaker 1: year from now. But Macklin, the timing for him is
Speaker 1: really rough. I think unless the Eagles say we still
Speaker 1: feel like he was he's been so consistent in each
Speaker 1: of his four seasons that they might have confidence that
Speaker 1: if we keep him on, we're gonna get the same
Speaker 1: thing when he comes back. But you know, he's in
Speaker 1: a contract here, that's that's not a good time to
Speaker 1: get injured the way the way he has. He's years old, though,
Speaker 1: and he could sign a short term deal and then
Speaker 1: be back out on the free agent market. He's pretty young,
Speaker 1: I think would be fun. So while while we have
Speaker 1: confidence that the Eagles will be able to get through this,
Speaker 1: things are a little trickier for the Ravens with Dennis Pitta. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you have you have a situation there where
Speaker 1: a Kwon Balden they get rid of for salary cap reasons,
Speaker 1: and but they still had Pitt as a guy. Okay,
Speaker 1: not only did this guy develop chemistry near the end
Speaker 1: of last season or really all season. Uh, now we
Speaker 1: see him making that type of leaf to becoming a
Speaker 1: star tight end of this league. Now he's gone, who
Speaker 1: knows how long he's gone. What are the Ravens do
Speaker 1: top one player in the NFL crack the top one
Speaker 1: that obnoxious terrell sugs sound bit that we had it
Speaker 1: here or he's like the white receivers always there when
Speaker 1: you need them. And I was like, what are you
Speaker 1: even talking about. I'd like to say, r I p
Speaker 1: to Dan's Terrell Suggs impressions that will never be on
Speaker 1: the show ever ever again. Uh, look Chris Wesley and
Speaker 1: our guy who were going to call up in a
Speaker 1: little bit. He's downstairs right now, chain through his desk
Speaker 1: feverishly writing post. He said all offseason he expects Pitta
Speaker 1: to lead the team in targets, maybe lead the team
Speaker 1: in receiving yards. And I think that was a pretty
Speaker 1: strong prediction because you look at him and Tory Smith
Speaker 1: as the two guys and it's a big, big drop
Speaker 1: off after that at wide receiver or tight end. And
Speaker 1: now now you're losing that guy and pit well, and
Speaker 1: it's Tory Smith is not a guy you're gonna throw
Speaker 1: the ball to play up to play. He's uh, he's
Speaker 1: gonna kill you deep. But you need a guy like
Speaker 1: Pitto to set that up. And he and Flacco obviously
Speaker 1: e their best friends. I'm not sure what that means
Speaker 1: on the field, except that what they have done on
Speaker 1: the field is probably show better chemistry than anyone else
Speaker 1: with Flacco outside of an koon Bold in that postseason run.
Speaker 1: They're fantastic, like the report also of that Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: was walking around despondent at Ravens Camp like Charlie Brown
Speaker 1: with that the piano music Disconsin. I mean, Flacco to
Speaker 1: me might be the most interesting part of this whole
Speaker 1: story because he's getting paid like a top five quarterback.
Speaker 1: And you know, look Ron Jaworski, who knows a lot
Speaker 1: more than us about quarterbacks, he put him in his
Speaker 1: top five. It's the type of season that you expect
Speaker 1: that of a top five quarterback to improve guys like
Speaker 1: Jacoby Jones and Deonte Thompson and Ed Dixon and lift
Speaker 1: those guys up into being great players, and they haven't been.
Speaker 1: And I don't think Flacco has ever done that. I
Speaker 1: don't think Flacco has ever gone from Game one to
Speaker 1: Game sixteen and been that top tier type of receiver.
Speaker 1: There's too many peaks and valleys that we see with him.
Speaker 1: They made the playoffs last year, but you know they
Speaker 1: easily could not have and then we would be having
Speaker 1: a very different conversation. So I want to see a
Speaker 1: Flacco can be better this year than he was last
Speaker 1: year when he wins a Super Bowl m v P.
Speaker 1: And one thing you know in Ozzie new some set
Speaker 1: over the weekend that I think it was the King.
Speaker 1: We just don't know exactly what our offense is gonna
Speaker 1: look like right now. I don't. I don't rule out
Speaker 1: number one a trade for someone recognizable. But secondly, you
Speaker 1: know that team only ran two tight ends set like
Speaker 1: fifteen percent of the time. Last year they ran to
Speaker 1: two running backs. Like, so it's like they're just but
Speaker 1: what what what I liked about the Ravens last year
Speaker 1: was they got into their that three wide receiver, more
Speaker 1: aggressive passing game, and they're gonna have to tell us
Speaker 1: revert back to that run, real, real run, heavy attack
Speaker 1: that we saw when I don't think the Ravens were
Speaker 1: quite as you know, as damaging on defense. And I
Speaker 1: will just say, you know, for proper sourcing, because we
Speaker 1: do that around here. You credited Peter King, but it
Speaker 1: was actually SI dot Com is Don Banks who spoke
Speaker 1: with Ozzy. And thank you for going to point out
Speaker 1: that Mark's clearly been reading his football outsiders. Well, no,
Speaker 1: and I and because I tweeted that today and it
Speaker 1: is from football. But it's interesting why because everyone says, Oh,
Speaker 1: they were just gonna they're crushed because they were gonna
Speaker 1: run two tight ends the entire time. But he didn't
Speaker 1: do that almost at all last year. No, they're crushed
Speaker 1: because their second best receiver on the team right now
Speaker 1: is Jacoby Jones. I mean that's not an NFL high
Speaker 1: quality passing attack, and so I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: very difficult for them. They're gonna have to rely on
Speaker 1: Ray Rice and Bernard Pierce more than ever. You know,
Speaker 1: those are two backs that you can rely does Brandon
Speaker 1: Lloyd's phone finally ring? This would be the perfect spot
Speaker 1: for it. I mean to me, they have a history
Speaker 1: of bringing in veterans, sometimes guys that haven't been you know,
Speaker 1: perfect soldiers elsewhere. Brian McKinney is a perfect example late
Speaker 1: in the mix and adding them to a good team.
Speaker 1: It just seems wide receivers have a shorter rope with
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff when the terms, when it comes
Speaker 1: to reputation, I mean, this guy should have a job
Speaker 1: right and lawder he could still play. I know he
Speaker 1: has the still not sure what it means locker room uh,
Speaker 1: locker room lawyer type reputation. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: Someone please tweet at us the best definition of what
Speaker 1: locker room lawyer means, and you can have the two
Speaker 1: thousand and ten Marvin Lewis Cincinnati Bengal. I know it's
Speaker 1: not two three. Marvin Lewis weighs about fifty pounds less,
Speaker 1: thirty five years old. The Cincinnati Ben don't make you
Speaker 1: look a lot older, So please let us know. Um
Speaker 1: elsewhere in the NFL, you know, Rex, Ryan John Zack
Speaker 1: came during your shift from Hell Hell on Saturday Markets.
Speaker 1: He stated, what what it? Well, it was. The reason
Speaker 1: it was news is because you know, my Niche Meadow,
Speaker 1: who's followed that team very closely, tweeted that. You know,
Speaker 1: Ryan has basically said definitively over and over, I will
Speaker 1: have the final say on the quarterback situation, which isn't
Speaker 1: that unusual in the NFL. Right in the pain in
Speaker 1: the past he said that he's been he's gone on
Speaker 1: the record, but when they had asked it, Zick, we'll
Speaker 1: hold on. What's your role in this? And he basically said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a pretty big role in deciding who
Speaker 1: plays Week one, how this whole thing shakes out, and
Speaker 1: you know, well, why don't you go to that? And
Speaker 1: then of course Rex then is asked about that the
Speaker 1: next day on Sunday, and Rex, the older Rex would
Speaker 1: have been defiant and would have said, this is my team,
Speaker 1: this is my choice. This Rex is the company man
Speaker 1: that's fearing for his life and his job, well not
Speaker 1: his life, we hope, not his life, but his job.
Speaker 1: And he's saying, well, it's always been that way. And
Speaker 1: even last year, for instance, when he benched Sanchez in
Speaker 1: favor of McElroy, he said that, uh, that was really
Speaker 1: a group decision. I said, it was my decision because
Speaker 1: I didn't want, you know, anybody else need to be
Speaker 1: asked about it. Just asked me and it all seemed
Speaker 1: very it seemed very soft, and it's it's really the
Speaker 1: new Rex Ryan, now where God is the bluster. Now
Speaker 1: you have this almost like a limping dog that just
Speaker 1: needs mercy at this point. It's it's kind of sad
Speaker 1: to watch. Dan dan Is said about it. Did you
Speaker 1: think this Mark do you think this storyline was was overplayed? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do, because well here's where I think it's different
Speaker 1: with the Jets, because you take a guy like Ryan,
Speaker 1: who I think had incredible power and he wasn't using
Speaker 1: Tannenbaum to make on field decisions and his power has
Speaker 1: been reduced, and a lot of a of teams though
Speaker 1: with lesser influential, less strong head coaches. I think a
Speaker 1: committee approach with a strong GM might play. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's starting quarterback. No, I think that. I
Speaker 1: think that in general, Like I said before the I mean,
Speaker 1: you're a guy like Ryan did have that power and
Speaker 1: it's been taken away from him. See. I don't think
Speaker 1: this is a media story. And I know there's a
Speaker 1: history between m niche and some of the New York
Speaker 1: UH media along with Rex Ryan and that you know
Speaker 1: they're gonna play up every little angle. But he's the
Speaker 1: head coach of the team. Who what else is he
Speaker 1: doing if he's not deciding who this the starting quarterback is?
Speaker 1: What is this? Is this money ball where the GM
Speaker 1: and the front office has say, I mean, you really
Speaker 1: think Bill Belichick or a number of had you think
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin's gonna say that, Kevin Colver has a saying
Speaker 1: who's the starting quarterback? No way when you when you
Speaker 1: have a really strong head coach like Rex. That's why
Speaker 1: I think it is a story. It wouldn't be like
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, for instance. As a Browns fan, I know
Speaker 1: that Chud will not make that decision alone. But that's
Speaker 1: because the first year head coach, and he's got a
Speaker 1: lot of other powerful people in the room with Ryan.
Speaker 1: It's an issue. And again this all goes back to
Speaker 1: and Greg and I were speaking about it downstairs in
Speaker 1: the newsroom this morning. The Jets not going all in
Speaker 1: on this rebuild. It's kind of they went kind of
Speaker 1: halfway on it. So you have situations like this where
Speaker 1: the new GM and the old coach are clashing on
Speaker 1: some level, or there has to be this discussion about
Speaker 1: who's really in charge. Whereas if it Zick had his
Speaker 1: own guy in here that he trusted and believed in,
Speaker 1: you would get You have an idea that it would
Speaker 1: probably be the coach saying it's my call and then
Speaker 1: it's backing him on that. But that's not how it
Speaker 1: is with the Jets because they have this disjointed nature
Speaker 1: up top. Of course, the Jets and Rex are discussing everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what you do, but there shouldn't
Speaker 1: be any confusion over whose decision it is. And I
Speaker 1: do think that's significant and it does show a change,
Speaker 1: uh in New York. Well, in fairness, it's not confusion though.
Speaker 1: I mean Rex is saying that it's always been this way,
Speaker 1: but the question is is that really true? And you
Speaker 1: get the feeling that this is a little bit Rex
Speaker 1: rewriting history to try to save some face. Why is
Speaker 1: Santonio Home still on this team? Why is Mark Sanchez
Speaker 1: still on this team? Why do they sign Ryan still
Speaker 1: the coach? This is all these guys feel like they're
Speaker 1: left over from a rebuild that started, but it won't
Speaker 1: finish until next year. And I want to know, and
Speaker 1: I who won the arm wrestling match to bring Brayl
Speaker 1: and Edwards in here? That does not seem like an
Speaker 1: Izick move to me. That we're definitely, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: better options than Brayl and Edwards. But that's a Rex
Speaker 1: Ryan guy. So it's like there was some you know,
Speaker 1: he gave Rex some sort of say there on some level,
Speaker 1: you get the middling um over the hill wide receiver
Speaker 1: and I'll choose the quarterback. Sounds like a nice deal.
Speaker 1: Is it the best thing for the Jets for one
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks to completely break away from the other
Speaker 1: as soon as possible. So this topic goes away where
Speaker 1: it's very clear who the starter should be. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean the whole question is you want to move on
Speaker 1: with the next era, and that's Geno Smith. But you
Speaker 1: also don't want to set him back by forcing him
Speaker 1: into the lineup early. But you know it's there's no
Speaker 1: weapons on this offense, so to me, it doesn't make
Speaker 1: sense to force Geno in. But I you start, you're starting,
Speaker 1: are ready to see some signs that both comments by
Speaker 1: Rex and some some people in the locker room how
Speaker 1: much they like Geno Smith. I got a feeling that
Speaker 1: Gino is going to be the quarterback Week one. You
Speaker 1: do feel a change in the air even from about
Speaker 1: four or five days of practices about Geno Smith. Uh,
Speaker 1: the reporters, the coaches, the players all seem more positive.
Speaker 1: He hasn't thrown an interception. It's too early to say anything,
Speaker 1: but to me, Gino Smith was always going to be
Speaker 1: the Week one starter as long as he's not incompetent
Speaker 1: in the off season, and so if he can be
Speaker 1: okay and it's close to a tie, I think they
Speaker 1: go with Gino because I think with Sanchez and and
Speaker 1: it's easy to go to town on Sanchez. But you're
Speaker 1: not gonna suddenly see a quarterback that blossoms into a
Speaker 1: top ten guy. He's gonna he is who he is
Speaker 1: to some degree in the offense hasn't changed. He's in
Speaker 1: a new offense if anything, so he's got to catch
Speaker 1: up to that. To some degree, they know what they
Speaker 1: have in Sanchez. They kind of what's what's the what's
Speaker 1: the wrong in throwing Gino Smith out there and seeing
Speaker 1: if this guy maybe has something special. This is a
Speaker 1: team that the preseason I thinks matter a lot. That's
Speaker 1: very good. We're getting some early good signs on Gino.
Speaker 1: We've been talking quarterback battles on the site all day.
Speaker 1: It's it's very early, but any impressions from there's really
Speaker 1: about five teams out there, uh that are battling at
Speaker 1: quarterback that the position is pretty open. Any early impressions
Speaker 1: on the battle so far, well, I think you know.
Speaker 1: I I covered over the weekend the Raiders situation, which
Speaker 1: I think is probably maybe the least sexy of the group,
Speaker 1: just because we have no hope for the Raiders to
Speaker 1: make a difference in the an f C West. But
Speaker 1: for me, that feels like that's Flynn's job, basically as
Speaker 1: always to lose, and last year he went out and
Speaker 1: he lost it. So if he can hold off Tyler Wilson,
Speaker 1: I don't see Terrell prior as a factor in that one.
Speaker 1: Wilson had a lot of buzz through mini camp and
Speaker 1: O T A s. But that seems to be coming
Speaker 1: a little bit now. Remind us next year not to
Speaker 1: do It's just so hard because we because we're writing
Speaker 1: all day. But just man, mini camps and ots don't matter.
Speaker 1: They really don't know. It doesn't It doesn't seem that.
Speaker 1: Are you suggesting maybe we just take a couple of
Speaker 1: months off in the middle of this flate spring that
Speaker 1: maybe would That wouldn't be that bad. We could do that.
Speaker 1: That's one of the greatest ideas of other quarterback when
Speaker 1: we haven't learned a lot early. I think cobbon Vic
Speaker 1: is still fifty fifty manual. You know the Bill started
Speaker 1: their camp a little late. I think, um, sorry, not
Speaker 1: cobbin Vic, I said Nick Foles and Vic in Philadelphia
Speaker 1: looks even. I don't think there's anything to learn other
Speaker 1: than in Jacksonville. It's really fifty fifty. They are giving
Speaker 1: Chad Hanny a chance. Plain Gabbert has an ankle injury,
Speaker 1: so that could give Hanny a better chance to win
Speaker 1: the job quickly. All right, guys, so let's we got
Speaker 1: Chris Westling downstairs. He got back from vacation today. He's
Speaker 1: probably in a rough spot mentally, but you know, we
Speaker 1: should call down and check in with him and see
Speaker 1: what he's working on right now. Chris, are you're there?
Speaker 1: I am Westling one floor down. What's going on? I
Speaker 1: am reinvigorated after mine Caro wac es throughout the Midwest
Speaker 1: in the South of the past two weeks, and not
Speaker 1: too angry that you're downstairs right now. We're just goofing
Speaker 1: off upstairs here. What are you working on right now?
Speaker 1: I have the Arizona Cardinals h Carson Palmer running a
Speaker 1: few option plays in practice and Patrick Peterson seeing times
Speaker 1: seeing time on offense. What is this Carson Palmer situation?
Speaker 1: Is he actually running the three option? In arnest? No,
Speaker 1: it sounds like they just want to get him out
Speaker 1: there as a way to get the running backs the ball.
Speaker 1: But he's never a threat to run. So is that
Speaker 1: really an option? What's the option? I don't think there
Speaker 1: is an option? How is the defender gonna have to
Speaker 1: read this running ability? And what's up with Patrick Peterson?
Speaker 1: Where where are they using him? He's been at wide
Speaker 1: receiver and running back. He had one deep route, uh
Speaker 1: and then a few a pitch at running back. But
Speaker 1: I don't know that we'll see him getting the ball
Speaker 1: once a game or anything like that. This might have
Speaker 1: to become a regular segment. You know, what is West
Speaker 1: or whoever is stuck downstairs doing? And West the upside
Speaker 1: for you? You could just take the sound file, put
Speaker 1: it right below the headline and move on to your
Speaker 1: next piece. Sweet West. You're a huge Cincinnati Bengals fan,
Speaker 1: so you've obviously watched Palmer a lot over the years.
Speaker 1: What what what are your hopes for him down there?
Speaker 1: I see him as possibly the least mobile quarterback in
Speaker 1: the NFL, So I would I would, just for amusement purposes,
Speaker 1: I would love to see him running the option. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's one of those trends that's like every team now
Speaker 1: is well not every team, but most teams are involving
Speaker 1: some sort of option. It's like kind of like the
Speaker 1: wildcat where there's just there were too many teams that
Speaker 1: were just kind of half passing it and just throwing
Speaker 1: a few plays out there each game just to do it.
Speaker 1: And it's not going to really make sense unless you
Speaker 1: commit to it. This seems like a turnover waiting to happen. West,
Speaker 1: Where were you exactly one week ago? Today? I was.
Speaker 1: I was in a title back creek off a Tybee
Speaker 1: Island having just having a blast. Are you satisfied to
Speaker 1: be back in Los Angeles? We were a little concerned
Speaker 1: you may never return. I am satisfied that I am
Speaker 1: still alive and kicking after last week. I looked I
Speaker 1: looked up at one point this morning and you could
Speaker 1: see Chris's mind just drifting away, and he was thinking
Speaker 1: about that lagoon and sitting on the big tube with
Speaker 1: the girl of his dreams floating down down the river.
Speaker 1: And now you're here in his hand. Now you were
Speaker 1: in traffic this morning to get to the NFL news room. West.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for answering the phone, and we
Speaker 1: will see you very soon for my pleasure. Guys. Okay,
Speaker 1: So moving forward, I got I gotta ask you know,
Speaker 1: we have maybe a new recurring segment here. The name
Speaker 1: is a work in work in progress. I thought Cessler
Speaker 1: had a pretty good name for it today, the Metrics
Speaker 1: mind Bender, Metric's mind Bender Bender, which is still which
Speaker 1: is basically every story as you might expect for the
Speaker 1: Mega corporation there. That's not that I guess I won't
Speaker 1: just chime in with my own one next thing. No,
Speaker 1: that's I like, that's the wilk Tie with the difference
Speaker 1: in quality you see between wilk Tie and black tie.
Speaker 1: So thank you very much, did um. Yeah, But basically
Speaker 1: we track every story and how stories. Doing it determines
Speaker 1: how things get played up on the site. And with
Speaker 1: a t L we we come up with so much content.
Speaker 1: But sometimes stories that you would never think would be
Speaker 1: huge are huge. Greg, who has a massive monitor in
Speaker 1: front of him every day, stares at it. For numbers, Greg,
Speaker 1: what is the Metrics Mindbender for Monday? They would have
Speaker 1: to be Terrell prior of the Raiders saying that he
Speaker 1: never knew how to throw until this offseason until someone
Speaker 1: you know on the new staff taught him how to throw. See,
Speaker 1: I would argue, and we just just it's like it's
Speaker 1: it doesn't surprise me that clip people are clicking into
Speaker 1: that particular narrative. Why is that because of a pro
Speaker 1: quarterback who's entering, you know, years into his career, not
Speaker 1: that he's been used heavily, saying you know, listen, much
Speaker 1: like the three of us, I don't really know how
Speaker 1: to throw a football up until now. And I will
Speaker 1: say this, this this smax to me of classic early
Speaker 1: training camp. So when Terrelle Pryor has a pastor rating
Speaker 1: of fourteen through the preseason, was like, oh, I thought
Speaker 1: you knew how to throw. Now, well, it's kind of
Speaker 1: like ignore, please excuse everything you've seen. I'm a I'm
Speaker 1: a new guy, and I was always I'm competing, competing
Speaker 1: for the number one spot, and now I can gun
Speaker 1: this thing, right. I like the idea of if you
Speaker 1: watch tape from prior and nobody ever noticed that maybe
Speaker 1: like throws like a girl left handed or something like
Speaker 1: how do we not even notice this? And now he
Speaker 1: throws a rifle? Uh. Prior in general, people are just
Speaker 1: interested in him, intriguing down Uh. And this is probably
Speaker 1: his last. I don't know how many chances he's ever
Speaker 1: going to get to start in the NFL, but this,
Speaker 1: this is a decent one. I kind of get doubt
Speaker 1: he'll ever get the chance, though, Well, um, that should
Speaker 1: do it. For another episode of The Round League Debate Club,
Speaker 1: shouldn't I think let's uh, let's wrap it up. Yeah,
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