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Speaker 1: that a come perfect. Well, I'm so excited um that
Speaker 1: it's this season again, because it is a season where
Speaker 1: sometimes I go on the subway and people think I'm
Speaker 1: pregnant so they give me a seat. Perfect. Actually that's
Speaker 1: never happened before, but it did happen yesterday. And then
Speaker 1: I had a nervous breakdown on stage. Now, what if
Speaker 1: they just saw you look tired? Nope, I gotta see
Speaker 1: I've really overthought this. Uh, but you know that's what
Speaker 1: happens when you are not pregnant and someone thinks you're pregnant.
Speaker 1: So I got on the subway and it was like
Speaker 1: relatively crowded, and immediately the sky gets something. He's like,
Speaker 1: oh here, please take my seat, and I thought, wow,
Speaker 1: chivalry isn't dead. And then I looked and I saw
Speaker 1: two bitches standing right by me, and I was like, uh,
Speaker 1: they don't look like men in wigs. I and then
Speaker 1: I realized this guy thinks I'm pregnant. I was wearing
Speaker 1: like a pregnant kind like I was ringing, addressed like
Speaker 1: a Maxi dress with with sneakers, which I think is
Speaker 1: the unofficial uniform of pregnant women in New York in
Speaker 1: the summer. However, I looked down and I was just like,
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, guys, okay, I know there's
Speaker 1: been a lot of like talk about how men are
Speaker 1: like rude and don't get up for pregnant when women
Speaker 1: on the subway. That is rude when men and whenever
Speaker 1: it should be getting up for pregnant women. I see
Speaker 1: it a lot. But what is worse is getting up
Speaker 1: for someone who you think is pregnant who is not.
Speaker 1: And I assure you I'm going to speak on behalf
Speaker 1: of pregnant women everywhere when I'm gonna when I'm gonna
Speaker 1: confidently say they would agree with me on this one, okay,
Speaker 1: because when they were not pregnant, had someone thought they
Speaker 1: were pregnant, Especially as someone who's like, I'm not like
Speaker 1: a fat person. There's nothing wrong with being fat, but
Speaker 1: also it's like you don't look but you're used to
Speaker 1: you're you, you know, but I'm sure there's certain things
Speaker 1: you're used to like there. I have certain qualities that
Speaker 1: I'm used to being a loudmouth bitch, so I get
Speaker 1: treated like a loudmouth bitch. But it's like that's something
Speaker 1: I'm used to because I've been that all my life.
Speaker 1: So it's like I I'm I have adjusted to the
Speaker 1: loudmouth bitch lifestyle. Yes, and being treated as such. Okay,
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with being fat, but you know because like
Speaker 1: if I have friends who are heavier and they they
Speaker 1: this happens to them all the time, and they They're like,
Speaker 1: oh l O L I'm fat. But I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: the people assume they're pregnant. Yeah, I mean, okay, men listening,
Speaker 1: there is a very very big difference between like chub
Speaker 1: and an actual but pregnant. Real is firm. It looks
Speaker 1: like a basketball is under your dress or in your pants.
Speaker 1: It's firm. There are no ridges, there are no roles. Okay,
Speaker 1: so that's a very And also when in doubt, sit
Speaker 1: down and pretend you didn't see the stomach, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: a rule. Look at your stomach, that heat we have.
Speaker 1: It all happened so fast and then I blacked out.
Speaker 1: I've got Thank God, God bless the New Year. A
Speaker 1: comedy club that I was headed to my spot because
Speaker 1: if I had not been able to immediately air my
Speaker 1: grievances on stage in front of you know, twelve people
Speaker 1: on a Monday. Boy, things would have gotten real bad.
Speaker 1: I will say I have accidentally done that to a
Speaker 1: woman at our show. Oh boy, yeah, where I think
Speaker 1: I pulled uicide. I'm like, when she's not brignant, I
Speaker 1: just like, oh yes, if she wasn't, God damn you
Speaker 1: you never asked. I mean basically, unless the person is
Speaker 1: glowing and rubbing their belly of circular motions, they are
Speaker 1: not pregnant. They just had a cheese steak and let
Speaker 1: that person live their life. And also to like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not pregnant, so I don't know, but I mean
Speaker 1: when I am pregnant, if I am still taking the
Speaker 1: subway when I pray, like because I don't even know,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, that's too upstairs, because I'd probably be
Speaker 1: a real lazy person when I'm pregnant, and I'll probably
Speaker 1: demand that everyone get things from me all the time.
Speaker 1: I'll suck that ship up, baby. Um. But if I
Speaker 1: needed to sit, like if I had an injury or
Speaker 1: if I was pregnant or something, I would be like, hey,
Speaker 1: can I sit here please? I would just ask. But
Speaker 1: I always think if someone's obviously pregnant, you fucking get
Speaker 1: up well. And also what added extraal sault to the
Speaker 1: wound is I had literally just come from the gym
Speaker 1: from running for an hour and like, oh my god, like,
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? Right now? I did have my period,
Speaker 1: So I'm a little blowdy. And I am the kind
Speaker 1: of person who like, I eat like one thing and
Speaker 1: my my stomach expands like I am pregnant. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: actually post funny pictures of it the food baby on Instagram.
Speaker 1: That's just the way my body is. Anything just explodes. However,
Speaker 1: I hadn't even eaten anything. There's no excuse for this.
Speaker 1: I looked down and I even told James and and
Speaker 1: and you know, he's kind of, you know, mean in
Speaker 1: a good way, so he would have been like he
Speaker 1: was just like, I don't know. Then he said something else,
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to repeat. It wasn't it wasn't dirty. No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't a meaning towards me. But okay, well, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that happened to you look pregnant. It's I was
Speaker 1: just like, god, damn yea god, I would have I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess I would have been in shock, but I
Speaker 1: would have also wanted to ask that guy, like, do
Speaker 1: you think, yeah, but this is the convenience you see
Speaker 1: when you're flat trusted, you just when you're when you
Speaker 1: have big boobs, You're big boobs are always gonna are
Speaker 1: gonna always be out further than your stomachus, your pregnant.
Speaker 1: You would have to be exactly you would have to
Speaker 1: be excessively heavy for your gut. I eat one thing
Speaker 1: and it's over. It's although when I eat darry if
Speaker 1: I don't take those lactad, it's it looks, it looks weird.
Speaker 1: It's it's like odd looking. I really do look well,
Speaker 1: it's like you're like a like a like a starving child. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: one of those one of those like oh, and he
Speaker 1: didn't need first whole life. And now he gave him
Speaker 1: a cracker with preservatives and in his stomach is bloating
Speaker 1: because the chemicals is not used to that right and
Speaker 1: perhaps perhaps a little bit uh less important, but I
Speaker 1: guess still equally important. Um, Aaron hernand Is did kill himself?
Speaker 1: Uh this week he did? Or was it was it
Speaker 1: this week? I don't know. I just remember I didn't
Speaker 1: know about him until unfortunately he passed, but he killed somebody. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I mean first off, everyone was like, I mean, not
Speaker 1: no one. You know, I'm not I'm not looking for
Speaker 1: anyone to kill themselves. But I'm just gonna say, if
Speaker 1: I was uh sentenced to life in prison after like
Speaker 1: I wrote a book and did a couple of interviews,
Speaker 1: I would maybe like and like fell in love with
Speaker 1: someone and like had like a little like a little romance,
Speaker 1: I definitely would kill myself in the slammer. But what
Speaker 1: I thought was interesting was when I was reading up
Speaker 1: because I wasn't really familiar with Aaron Hernandez. I don't
Speaker 1: follow sports at all. But of course, you know, every
Speaker 1: comedian has to make their two cents shitty joke about
Speaker 1: Aaron Hernandez. Everyone was making himself. Everyone was making a
Speaker 1: joke about that, right, God, can you Well I had
Speaker 1: to look into it because I was like, our people
Speaker 1: really that heartless, and then like, you know, that's just
Speaker 1: some some guy kills himself and like everyone's cracking jokes.
Speaker 1: But then I realized he killed himself in jail, was sentenced,
Speaker 1: and then looked into his crimes and like he actually
Speaker 1: did murder, Like he was acquitted of the most recent
Speaker 1: murder charge. But then, but then he had previously he
Speaker 1: was already in jail from murdering someone else. I was like,
Speaker 1: Ben anyway, Um, but I thought it was really interesting
Speaker 1: because apparently, like last year, like when he was already
Speaker 1: in prison, Uh, there had all these rumors had come,
Speaker 1: like surfaced that he had a boy friend in prison,
Speaker 1: and kind of you know, a lot of sports fans
Speaker 1: reacted towards this, super negatively called him a faggot, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Uh So number one, they don't really Everyone's like saying,
Speaker 1: well he was bisexual. Yeah, he did have a boyfriend
Speaker 1: in prison, but a fiance at home who he has
Speaker 1: a child with. Um, and when before he took his
Speaker 1: own life, he wrote a letter to his child, he
Speaker 1: wrote a letter to his fiance, and he wrote a
Speaker 1: letter to his prison boyfriends. Yeah, and I and I
Speaker 1: and I just was kind of thinking about how we
Speaker 1: really don't have a ton of athletes who are out
Speaker 1: of the closet, and no wonder why because it's like
Speaker 1: if in two thousand sixteen, someone especially under like circumstances
Speaker 1: like you're fucking locked away in prison and you have
Speaker 1: a boyfriend, which is not an uncommon thing. All these
Speaker 1: people you know a lot of athletes and rappers who
Speaker 1: have been locked up. They might not talk about it,
Speaker 1: but I assure you a good number of them have
Speaker 1: had prison boyfriends. Good number of them absolutely well. Michael
Speaker 1: sam was one of was a gay NFL or is
Speaker 1: a gay. He became one of the first publicly gay
Speaker 1: players to be draft in the NFL. And then I
Speaker 1: remember the camera pand on him and he like kiss
Speaker 1: these fiance or his boyfriend, and I was like, fuck yeah,
Speaker 1: and I could feel, I mean, this is always also mean,
Speaker 1: like looking to get mad, but I'm like, oh man,
Speaker 1: I bet all these assholes dudes are at home going
Speaker 1: and I just want to punch them. But you we
Speaker 1: need to see that. We need to see it, sure,
Speaker 1: and here about it and what like, it's it's generally
Speaker 1: okay in a lot of areas to just like, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of be gay now, but only in certain occupations.
Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, as soon as someone comes
Speaker 1: out of the closet, like they're not going to be
Speaker 1: the leading uh guy in a romantic comedy or a
Speaker 1: leading female. I'm sure if someone coming up came out
Speaker 1: as a lesbian, she's not getting cast as a leading
Speaker 1: woman in a heterosexual romance film. So it's like we
Speaker 1: we say, oh, just be yourself, just come out of
Speaker 1: the closet. But it's like we don't, especially in certain
Speaker 1: uh entertainment and and sports fields, that we don't encourage
Speaker 1: that through our dollar. Like I'm sure money will be
Speaker 1: you know, a film with someone who was gay or
Speaker 1: lesbian in a heterosexual role. We just would not make
Speaker 1: as much money as if that person stayed closet. That's
Speaker 1: why sound cruise can sit on the reps where I
Speaker 1: mean not very well, No, I know, it's like everyone
Speaker 1: and also I mean he it wasn't even about sexuality
Speaker 1: for him, just like with the Scientology ship. I think
Speaker 1: everyone got tired of him and it well, it's I mean,
Speaker 1: I think about this all the time whenever anybody gets
Speaker 1: shipped for their sexuality a k. They're not straight. It's
Speaker 1: like man, straight people, you never get you never get
Speaker 1: questioned on your own sexuality. Your sexuality is not a
Speaker 1: part of your job interview. It's not a part of
Speaker 1: when when a male straight male football player gets drafted
Speaker 1: and he kisses his wife, no one fucking gives his
Speaker 1: ship And it's like, come on, guys, just fucking who
Speaker 1: cares what whole people want to stick things in as
Speaker 1: long as it's consensual, Just mind your goddamn business, right,
Speaker 1: And I think I mean, just because someone uh you know,
Speaker 1: likes to have sex with men and is a man,
Speaker 1: does not make them any left of a man. It
Speaker 1: does not make them not a good athlete, like all
Speaker 1: these things. I mean, Bruce Jenner case and point. I
Speaker 1: know a lot of us don't like Caitlyn Jenner. Come
Speaker 1: douche bags, um, but ran over. You know, Bruce Jenner,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest athletes ever to live. The whole
Speaker 1: time was having these really deep thoughts and feelings about
Speaker 1: how he feels like he was born into the wrong
Speaker 1: body and is a she and as now living as
Speaker 1: a she. It's the same person that did all that,
Speaker 1: had all these those great you know, medals and achievements.
Speaker 1: It's the same fucking person, just now that person appears
Speaker 1: differently to the naked eye. Yeah. Last last year for
Speaker 1: the Pride and show that we did, it was right
Speaker 1: after the Orlando shooting where we had all of our
Speaker 1: LGBT friends, Uh submit a clip I love when David
Speaker 1: Crabb had his story and he was just like, I
Speaker 1: can't believe I'm getting treated this way because of what
Speaker 1: hole I want to fuck Like, It's just it's like that.
Speaker 1: When he put it that way, I was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: God damn it, It's just it's crazy. Our guest was
Speaker 1: a part of that montage. Oh man, I didn't even
Speaker 1: really mean to make such a transition, but look at us. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm very excited, uh to introduce this next guest. Uh.
Speaker 1: She is a stand up comedian and also happens to
Speaker 1: be transgender. We are very pleased to welcome the wonderful
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Speaker 1: Jesus fucking Christ, I just need to get there, I can't. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I was telling her. I was like, oh you did
Speaker 1: about yourself, like I'm never alone. That would be like
Speaker 1: the most amazing experience. She's like, yeah, no, like after
Speaker 1: the first day, Yeah, it's cool. It's cool for like
Speaker 1: two hours and then you're just like, I have how
Speaker 1: long to go? I would just be scared. I would
Speaker 1: have fallen asleep, so I would need someone there to
Speaker 1: poke me every now and again. Originally my brother was
Speaker 1: going to fly across Cotch. He lives at the San
Speaker 1: Diego and then he was going to do the trip.
Speaker 1: But then you know, I had problemsed with like custy,
Speaker 1: these kids or something like that. I guess you just
Speaker 1: didn't work out. But um, yeah, but no, it was
Speaker 1: it was. It was all right. It's a second time
Speaker 1: I've done it, and each time I hated it. Really ship.
Speaker 1: I still want to do it, though, you should, but
Speaker 1: I would bring someone. Yeah, Caroac was lying. My mom
Speaker 1: and my brother have done it's multiple times. When he
Speaker 1: went to USC they moved him via car from New
Speaker 1: Jersey and they had a great time. And that's why
Speaker 1: they've been to almost every state and I've been to
Speaker 1: like none A couple. Well now this year from touring,
Speaker 1: but before that, yeah, I'm worried that I would want
Speaker 1: to murder whoever is my companion at the end of
Speaker 1: the trip. But maybe not. I don't know. That's your too,
Speaker 1: because you find out all like the weird habits people have,
Speaker 1: like your friends, just like wow that he really choose loud,
Speaker 1: or like he really does smell after yeah, yeah, or
Speaker 1: like well it throws the tissue right on the floor
Speaker 1: of the park. Okay, that's the thing. Vacation. That is
Speaker 1: how you really learn if you can deal with someone
Speaker 1: long term, right, Like I I spent years with being
Speaker 1: best friends with my best friend Paula. Before I traveled
Speaker 1: with her, and I was very nervous. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is a trip to Disney World. That's gonna make
Speaker 1: her break, you know, almost decade long relationship. And then
Speaker 1: it was fine, Yeah, oh yeah, I did that with Melissa.
Speaker 1: We didn't travel until we went to Cancoon recently, and
Speaker 1: I was like, this is great. We bonded, got closer.
Speaker 1: It was awesome. Yeah, you didn't get sick of at all.
Speaker 1: We're at the end of it. We did get in
Speaker 1: a fight, which was totally my bad and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I remember, and she's like it's okay, and
Speaker 1: they're like, let's go some of the dolphins. Like it
Speaker 1: was fine because we're like sisters, so we bounced back. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm like and with me, I think like I would
Speaker 1: start the fights to because some an asshole after a while,
Speaker 1: you know, I just like I was want to be
Speaker 1: alone as I'm leaving the fun alone. Shut up, I
Speaker 1: don't care what you're doing. Do you get sick of
Speaker 1: people easily? Yes, yeah, that's okay. I mean people all
Speaker 1: comedians really do think. Yeah, that's why we chose a
Speaker 1: vocation where we just hang out by ourselves the time,
Speaker 1: and people are like, don't it lonely? I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: that's kind of nice. I don't at all really right,
Speaker 1: just shut up. I'm not talking to you. My headphones
Speaker 1: are okay. Yeah. How are you in relationships? Are you
Speaker 1: an asshole in relationships? Or is that just like I've
Speaker 1: never really been in a lot of serious relationships. How
Speaker 1: many it's top one or well? I was actually before
Speaker 1: I transish, and I was in more relationships than after. Really,
Speaker 1: so when you before you transitioned, you were in relationships
Speaker 1: with heterosexual women, or yes, give that the old college
Speaker 1: try just like I'm supposed to love, just like college
Speaker 1: only lasted six months? Why did it know? It just
Speaker 1: it was just weird for me. It was just like,
Speaker 1: you know, because you know in your heart how you
Speaker 1: feel really who you are, did you? Yeah? I knew
Speaker 1: my whole time, But I thought like, well, that's not
Speaker 1: that's never gonna happen. You're never gonna transition. Just just try,
Speaker 1: just try it out. Maybe it's not so bad. What's
Speaker 1: the earliest memories of you feeling as if you weren't
Speaker 1: in the right weren't the right gender? Uh? Really early, Like,
Speaker 1: I remember there's this like it was like a state
Speaker 1: fair or something like that that we went to r
Speaker 1: some hockey little carnival or something like that, and they
Speaker 1: had these little like prize baskets for girls and for boys.
Speaker 1: So I reached in to the girls and I was
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, it was like this weird fake pearl
Speaker 1: set or something like that. I thought it was so cool,
Speaker 1: And then then I remember looking at me like, what
Speaker 1: the hell are you? You know, Yeah, that's so weird
Speaker 1: that people, it's just weird that we did that two kids,
Speaker 1: Like oh yeah, we Steven knows this woman out in
Speaker 1: Colorado who has a has a daughter trans She's I
Speaker 1: think maybe eight um and she's the most magical person
Speaker 1: I've ever Like, I've seen pictures of her and I've
Speaker 1: heard I've seen videos of her and she's beautiful, like
Speaker 1: she's just she's they call her their little unicorn. That's
Speaker 1: really sweet. They and both parents are like very loving
Speaker 1: and supportive. And she's just she has her hair grown out,
Speaker 1: she was born male, and she just she hasn't transition
Speaker 1: yet because she's not she's not enough, but she just
Speaker 1: she fucking knows like kids know, kids not And it's
Speaker 1: just like it's just like you're just crushing their spirit.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like which I probably wouldn't be in
Speaker 1: comedy if I transitioned earlier, because I would be happy.
Speaker 1: I'd be happy, would be fine because usually kids spirit
Speaker 1: doesn't get crush until they get old, right, and by
Speaker 1: that time you're like, well, I guess I got a
Speaker 1: deal after high school then you know, when they find
Speaker 1: a real job. So, but how did like, so did
Speaker 1: you know as a kid though like transitioning was a
Speaker 1: thing that you could do, because I mean that hasn't
Speaker 1: really been a part of mainstream culture for very long,
Speaker 1: like the knowledge that you can do that. Not really
Speaker 1: I never knew that. Like, um, I would see things
Speaker 1: every once in a a while on TV, like on talk
Speaker 1: shows or something like that, but it was never it
Speaker 1: was always like drag queens or something, and it was
Speaker 1: always like, yeah, which is different. But I was like
Speaker 1: at the time, You're like at the time, like yeah,
Speaker 1: wait a second, that I could do that for a
Speaker 1: little you know or something. And it just so it
Speaker 1: was like getting getting warmer than the Internet when that
Speaker 1: when that came out, it was just you know, everything unraveled.
Speaker 1: But even so, as like talking about my parents this story,
Speaker 1: my dad, like we were I was watching TV and
Speaker 1: there are these female impersonators on or something like that,
Speaker 1: and in my head, as a flub yearld, I'm thinking like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's what I want to be. And
Speaker 1: my father wants in He goes, if any of you
Speaker 1: turned out like that, I'll kill you. Yeah. Was he
Speaker 1: like l O l or was he like he was right?
Speaker 1: It was like it was like sharpening a knife, you know.
Speaker 1: He was like, but um so yeah, So at the
Speaker 1: time I was just like yeah, no chance, yes, And
Speaker 1: that all that, those thoughts of like being your true
Speaker 1: self just get pushed down, I would imagine, And what
Speaker 1: what were the reactions when I mean, how how take
Speaker 1: us through? Like when you were a child at the fair,
Speaker 1: so that that was your first time we realized that,
Speaker 1: well I want the pearls and then everyone thought that
Speaker 1: was weird, something different, I guess, yeah. And like coloring,
Speaker 1: I had always like like it's weird how you only
Speaker 1: get little memories, you know, but like I remember this
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse calling book, and I would like color dressed
Speaker 1: and makeup on the Mickey Mouse. You know. It was
Speaker 1: like there was many too, but it's like no, I
Speaker 1: had to change. Oh yeah, he's trapped and you need
Speaker 1: to release exactly Mickey needs to be she needs to
Speaker 1: be fabulous, right, It's like come on those eyes. Um yeah.
Speaker 1: So then you know, and and more and more, like
Speaker 1: my dad just hated that, so I just like like
Speaker 1: pushed it back, pushed it back then. You know. After college,
Speaker 1: I was, you know, my dad passed away, Like I
Speaker 1: was a freshman in college, and then I started to
Speaker 1: look at well, maybe you can you know, And that's
Speaker 1: so Bunny Kate Bornstein was saying the same She didn't
Speaker 1: come out to her parents until her father passed because
Speaker 1: her dad would have been What is it about dad's
Speaker 1: I mean so many dads and their struggle with the
Speaker 1: LGBTQ community. Well, it's guys in general to a lot
Speaker 1: for the most I mean not everyone, obviously them question
Speaker 1: the role masculinity or something. Yeah, it's just like a
Speaker 1: man is a man, and a woman can be tough
Speaker 1: and a woman can be butch, but a woman is
Speaker 1: a woman, you know, but a man can't be feminine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's weird because like I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: dads like if their son were to be gay or trans,
Speaker 1: that would be a nightmare. But then dad's always make
Speaker 1: jokes like oh if my daughter's a lesbian, no problem.
Speaker 1: Like that's a very confusing, mixed message, totally sad stuff dads.
Speaker 1: It's weird. It's also kind of pervy that we think
Speaker 1: about totally my daughter's lesbian sexuality. Like I think it's
Speaker 1: something like men know how a man knows how evil
Speaker 1: men can be, and so there it's a it's a
Speaker 1: weird protection like mechanisms. So like even if you know
Speaker 1: you have a gay son, like you want to protect
Speaker 1: him from the wrath of other men, right, I guess right,
Speaker 1: And just as far as the trans I don't know though.
Speaker 1: But then then it's like, oh, no, you have to
Speaker 1: you have to be a man, but men are bad.
Speaker 1: So it's that's confusing as fun, and it's confusing their
Speaker 1: comic who talks about like if his son was getting
Speaker 1: just like just please don't be at bottom. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I forget what common talks about that, but yeah, so
Speaker 1: I mean it's just it was just like after college,
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, I can't do it. Then I went
Speaker 1: to much needed therapy, you know, and m and what
Speaker 1: did what did the therapist say? Well, they basically just
Speaker 1: if you have someone that knows they're doing they're basically like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you're definitely trying. We can we can move the ball
Speaker 1: forward to give you approval for things like hormone treatments
Speaker 1: all that other stuff, and then eventually transition and then
Speaker 1: they down the road surgeries or whatever. Do you know
Speaker 1: what they're internal test or checklist is that they want
Speaker 1: to hear out of the person their patient's mouths to
Speaker 1: be to be able to say, yep, your trans I
Speaker 1: think like if they're if they're not very good at
Speaker 1: their jobs. They just look at like the d S
Speaker 1: M five, you know, like that that's like this diagnostics
Speaker 1: manual for for psychologist psychiatrists. They say if they meet
Speaker 1: three of six of the following or something like that.
Speaker 1: You know, I think this, but I think someone who's
Speaker 1: been around chance people just gets it. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: did you do research before going to a therapist to
Speaker 1: see like this person knows how to deal with certain issues? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah. And the once the internet came out,
Speaker 1: I was all about it. It's like that's it that that? Um,
Speaker 1: Like before that, I made it in psychology just to
Speaker 1: try and figure out, you know what the next step. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I know interest in psychology, But did you did
Speaker 1: you get any insight from that experience? Really was a
Speaker 1: day in like abnormal psych or something like that, you know,
Speaker 1: and that one day ten minutes of the class transgender
Speaker 1: and then maybe like a human sexuality. They'd be like
Speaker 1: two lectures, you know, and it's just okay, um now,
Speaker 1: but you know, I pretty much knew as much as
Speaker 1: the most therapists. I think I remember the story someone
Speaker 1: something when they when they first saw a therapist. Um,
Speaker 1: like she left the room mid mid session, and then
Speaker 1: he looked over um and saw on the computer screen
Speaker 1: was like a Google search for transgenderic in the right hand.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, you're you're you're perfect, perfect for
Speaker 1: the job, right. Well, that's the thing that there is
Speaker 1: a lot of confusion, and it's and I and I
Speaker 1: know even us with this podcast, sometimes we feel awkward
Speaker 1: talking to trans people. You don't want to say the
Speaker 1: wrong thing, but it's also like sometimes you need to
Speaker 1: say the wrong thing to get to the right to
Speaker 1: be corrected and to be uh, to be told what
Speaker 1: the right thing is. Percent. I mean, it's just and
Speaker 1: and the more I've come out, the more I think
Speaker 1: people are like like the same before, like um, before
Speaker 1: we started airing. I was in Nebraska this year Indiana
Speaker 1: and like there was so great, the crowds are so great.
Speaker 1: They were like, I'm sure that most of them are
Speaker 1: Trump voters, but I bet they had a thought in
Speaker 1: their head now and there's like, I maybe it's not
Speaker 1: so bad that trans kids use the bathroom, you know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that that's that whole which is still a ship show.
Speaker 1: Even though headlines are claiming that there was a victory,
Speaker 1: but there really kind of wasn't. Yeah, it just means like, oh,
Speaker 1: now there won't be any laws passed in three years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just I wish that I wish there was a
Speaker 1: way to communicate effectively to the people that are like
Speaker 1: I don't want no do with dude in a dress
Speaker 1: taking his dick and jerking off of my daughter while
Speaker 1: she's trying to trying to take a piss, Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. Like, if that happens, it's a cis
Speaker 1: gender male, right right, it's you know what also matter
Speaker 1: who I'm doing that. That's someone that has a mental
Speaker 1: problem that has nothing to do with being traded, unstable,
Speaker 1: someone who likes to, you know, jerk off on people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like that's like that's what taboo now an don't do that,
Speaker 1: arrest and do it on a public buss like like world,
Speaker 1: goddamn it, And like it doesn't even bother me, Like
Speaker 1: if someone, you know, someone gives me, I don't give it. Like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm taking ships in worse places, under the worst threats.
Speaker 1: That's the worst place you've ever taken a ship. I'm
Speaker 1: just trying to think, like, yeah, I think I did
Speaker 1: a porta potty of burning man. Okay, so you know
Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, comics, I mean, picketers don't scare me. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's like needles scare me. Um. Have you ever had
Speaker 1: an experience in a bathroom where someone kind of looked
Speaker 1: you up and down? And we're like the person when
Speaker 1: I first when my first transition, I had a couple
Speaker 1: of things, but it's I mean, you grow thick skin.
Speaker 1: That's why I like, like I said, like I really
Speaker 1: don't give and if someone who's fifty doesn't have thick skin,
Speaker 1: I don't really care. What really gets me it's like
Speaker 1: the eight year old get bullying every day who has
Speaker 1: to use the nurse's office, because yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 1: really that's where I that's those the ones that I
Speaker 1: care about and stand up for. But you know someone
Speaker 1: who's like sixty and still wants to play women's basketball, no,
Speaker 1: you know remember whatever? Even like like there's some like
Speaker 1: transgender weightlifter saying how how you know it's like like
Speaker 1: a weightlifter as a man and now as a woman, Like,
Speaker 1: oh broke all these women's records, right, Well you kind
Speaker 1: of bypassed this. Put a little astericks by that one, okay,
Speaker 1: because I mean you know, it's if you go through
Speaker 1: a male puberty, you have a couple of just you know,
Speaker 1: it's like those aren't the fights we need to be winning,
Speaker 1: you know. It's just so yeah, it seems so that
Speaker 1: that's it's like, all right, guys, I mean that's a
Speaker 1: little that's a little ridiculous. But let's focus on, you know,
Speaker 1: the protection of trans kids. Right, just go be a
Speaker 1: bouncer somewhere instead, and I'll protect your right for that.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Yeah, I was reading a sorry
Speaker 1: about a trans um uh mailed a female wrestler. It
Speaker 1: was like months ago, like a college wrestler, and and
Speaker 1: and uh she like just kicked Yeah she was female
Speaker 1: to male. Yeah, so she has and because the Texas
Speaker 1: doesn't have these trance bills, right, he had to fight
Speaker 1: against women. Yeah, and he was yeah, and he's like
Speaker 1: nailing it. I don't want to write and I like,
Speaker 1: believe me, he wants like in an interview, is like
Speaker 1: I really want to wrestle men, you know, I want
Speaker 1: to wrestle other kids my age, so so sort of
Speaker 1: bit Texas and me asked with that, but um, what
Speaker 1: have you faced? What like the worst adversitying that someone
Speaker 1: has said to you or done to you or or
Speaker 1: what's what does that look like? Well, probably the worst thing.
Speaker 1: Like my brother just owned me, so that that's stuff
Speaker 1: like wait, wait, how many another brother? Have three brothers? Okay?
Speaker 1: Because I was like one was going to take a
Speaker 1: car cross country trip with you. He's going to break
Speaker 1: it to me then like and he said you forever
Speaker 1: get out enjoy Kansas. Now that was that was tough. Um.
Speaker 1: But they're like all sorts of weird little thing like um,
Speaker 1: before I like I worked at a bookstore before I
Speaker 1: transistioned that borders and they were you know, I was
Speaker 1: never turned down for promotion as guy. Ever I had
Speaker 1: like like seven or something like that or six like
Speaker 1: something like crazy, and then like like yeah, I ended
Speaker 1: up being like being like one of the one of
Speaker 1: the managers there and then uh, but then I transitioned
Speaker 1: started at the bottom of Macy's and was was turned
Speaker 1: down every single time. And it's just weird things like
Speaker 1: that where you're just like it's not coincidence. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like you know, then you can't what do you
Speaker 1: you don't have proof. But it's like football teams don't
Speaker 1: go eight no, and then lose their next eight. You know,
Speaker 1: it just doesn't happen. Um. So it's just little things
Speaker 1: like that. We're just like, Okay, maybe there's something wrong there. Um,
Speaker 1: but you know things like that that you just and
Speaker 1: it's Macy's is also I've worked on. Macs is also
Speaker 1: not nearly as open minded as I imagine like a
Speaker 1: bookstore to be they have because I mean I worked
Speaker 1: in sant Alando. Like that's really like an image that
Speaker 1: they are trying to Uh wait keep did you wear
Speaker 1: like an elf costell? Yeah? I did. It was it
Speaker 1: was as research a long story. I was trying to
Speaker 1: be like David Sedaris Junior basically yes, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's weird because it's like some a
Speaker 1: lot of these stores and corporations have this image and
Speaker 1: and somehow like trans people don't fit into that image
Speaker 1: a lot. Like I walked into a Gap the other
Speaker 1: day and a trans person helped me, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was just so I have such a low thoughts
Speaker 1: about Gap, and I was, I just feel like they're
Speaker 1: just like the most like cookie cutter kind of like
Speaker 1: sticks I want to be boring is from Gap, Like
Speaker 1: if you need the most basic of basic. You go
Speaker 1: to the gap and I was, so, might go to
Speaker 1: for khaki pants? Right, Well did I get? Yeah? In
Speaker 1: fact they're good for workout here there you go. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: uh gosh, that's so weird. But yeah, I mean people
Speaker 1: make jokes a lot of times like oh, it's like
Speaker 1: you want to you want to transition to being a woman.
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna get treated like a woman. So how
Speaker 1: do you have you noticed besides the job thing like
Speaker 1: different ways that you're treated differently now that you look
Speaker 1: like a woman, not just feel internally like that you
Speaker 1: are a woman. Yeah, there there are a lot of
Speaker 1: little things that you just don't get, Like like in
Speaker 1: a bar, your defenses go up. Then I never experienced
Speaker 1: it before. You're just like don't do you know. I'm
Speaker 1: like I'm not come j wonderful world. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: but no, you really because it almost has to. It's
Speaker 1: almost like you know, you feel like that you pray
Speaker 1: a little bit a little bit, like totally and like
Speaker 1: not all guys are assholes or anything like that, and
Speaker 1: it's unfair to make a judgment that's someone you know.
Speaker 1: But out of every chunk of guys, the likely out
Speaker 1: of one of them being a creepy asshole pretty high absolutely, um,
Speaker 1: things like um and just like like walking alone, sometimes
Speaker 1: you'll have like weird people come up to like hey baby, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? You know, and it's just what do you say?
Speaker 1: It's like why, that's right, Yeah that's right, pulling my
Speaker 1: man voice. And then I start going going to town
Speaker 1: like what you hit me? Um, you just go to
Speaker 1: a man voice I have. I'm not going to I'd
Speaker 1: have to practice because that's the ultimate can't called defense.
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's better than Yeah, that's a fun that's
Speaker 1: a fun sketch. I think. Yeah, yeah, I get that going.
Speaker 1: There's actually a trans comic Aaron Spencer who talks yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. We're doing like about how no one took
Speaker 1: her seriously until she bru like a talked in a
Speaker 1: deep voice. Yeah, I agree, you know, and uh no,
Speaker 1: but um but this is kind of a funny thing,
Speaker 1: which I told someone that this didn't believe me. Like
Speaker 1: you know the so oil change places, we drive into
Speaker 1: a little pit there, yeah, like whenever they're and then
Speaker 1: they're like all right, drive up when you when you're
Speaker 1: a guy, they guide in and let you drive. But
Speaker 1: we're not like I put your parking bake on. I
Speaker 1: got it from here, thanks, sweetheart. Like guys say, women
Speaker 1: don't know about cars, and that is something that I've experienced,
Speaker 1: like because I know, I just happened a lot about
Speaker 1: cars with my dad and my brother. And every time
Speaker 1: somebody talks condescendingly to me, specifically about cars, I'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well my dad has seven trans am and then he
Speaker 1: bought another one and like I'll go into something. I like,
Speaker 1: what the funk? And they almost get like pissed, like
Speaker 1: like my cousin Vinnie whatever, or she's like, well, except
Speaker 1: for that time that we were in a gas station
Speaker 1: and I didn't I couldn't put the yeah, cut the
Speaker 1: top back on the tire after we put air in
Speaker 1: that well, I thought the tire was going to explode.
Speaker 1: A man didn't help us, and we literally Tren and
Speaker 1: I were like, where's the nearest man? And he needed
Speaker 1: man He rolled up with his family. Guys were like, sir,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, we don't know how to do it, and
Speaker 1: he's like, I'll nowhere, I'll help, and he did it
Speaker 1: and it was great. No. Someone changed my tire for
Speaker 1: me once too, and I was like, oh, I can't
Speaker 1: find my feminist card. Where did I put it? I'll
Speaker 1: drive home and get it once I changed the time.
Speaker 1: Once you change the tire for you think, So do you?
Speaker 1: Who do you date? I date guys now, But it's
Speaker 1: it's tough. It's it's you know, because a lot of
Speaker 1: guys they really just wanted as a fetish when your
Speaker 1: chance was going to say a lot of guys really
Speaker 1: love trans women, like and it's a creepy extent a
Speaker 1: lot more than admit it to. By the way, like
Speaker 1: I guarantee half the comics and any open mike you
Speaker 1: go to have at least like taking a gander on
Speaker 1: you pour and be like yeah wow, right right yeah,
Speaker 1: and she's at and super sweet, but you are not.
Speaker 1: Do you know her? Yeah, yeah, we'll do. But she's
Speaker 1: probably listening. I think you really Hi, you're so cool
Speaker 1: and come on the air. Yeah please? Um, how do
Speaker 1: you get through that hump er? How do you what's
Speaker 1: your litmus test as to figure out if you're a
Speaker 1: fetish to them or a perspective. I'm scaining to the
Speaker 1: point where I just don't get really care. You know,
Speaker 1: that's maybe that's a bad answer. I'm just like whatever,
Speaker 1: it's just you know, as long as like if I
Speaker 1: can connect with someone you know. But but it's it's
Speaker 1: just weird, like someone will be like, you know, saying
Speaker 1: something to me like wow, I've never been you know,
Speaker 1: never been into trans swimming before, you know. But then
Speaker 1: it's like you have a dick. Yeah yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like all right, yeah, sure you haven't even please yeah,
Speaker 1: you just never talked to one face to face maybe,
Speaker 1: um so oh so there, and you're the first transperson
Speaker 1: they've had the opportunity be in front of and have
Speaker 1: a possibility of intimacy, and they're just too nervous. I
Speaker 1: think so. I think so, although online is different, if
Speaker 1: you're online, it's just like yeah, it's do you do
Speaker 1: a lot of like dating online anymore? What happens to stop? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Who was who was the dumbass who made you go? Na? Actually?
Speaker 1: I just I was worried some one would recognize me
Speaker 1: comedy Yeah, and then starts talking or something, Um, see
Speaker 1: you really are this is you're really living as a woman, right,
Speaker 1: this is amazing and full blown And actually there was
Speaker 1: someone um was emailing me and then just sent me
Speaker 1: a noticaying. By the way, do you know how easy
Speaker 1: is to find out where you live? And he apparently
Speaker 1: I guess he went into the lobby of the apartment building.
Speaker 1: I was staying in a point just looking for an apartment,
Speaker 1: so so that at that point I was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I don't. I don't. I don't need this
Speaker 1: Jesus and online useless to anyway for dating at least
Speaker 1: it seems like a black hole shit, right, And for
Speaker 1: the people that are into trans women and trans women,
Speaker 1: it's a smaller percentage, so you have a smaller you know,
Speaker 1: a group of fish to fish from. Um. So you know,
Speaker 1: I get people from l A like no Ore, when
Speaker 1: of them in New York, like you know, or Turkmenistan
Speaker 1: or something. You know, wait what are you up to?
Speaker 1: You know? And it's like, hey, I want to talk,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, it's not going anywhere. There's a
Speaker 1: facts of like marathon on logo. All right, I'm busy.
Speaker 1: Have you ever felt like physically threatened because you are trans?
Speaker 1: Not really no, because because I think people are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I know, because you're a woman, especially you know,
Speaker 1: trans women of color have a lot of problems. I
Speaker 1: think you know, there's just a different understanding depending on
Speaker 1: like what kind of community you're coming from. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know with the LGBTQ community. Uh, but people just have
Speaker 1: no idea what is that? Do you have any thoughts
Speaker 1: on why people want to physically attack things or people
Speaker 1: that they don't understand? Well, Like last year there seven
Speaker 1: trans women or trans people were murdered, and I think
Speaker 1: twenty five for a trans women of color, something like
Speaker 1: majority right, right, And and almost every one it was
Speaker 1: someone who's either dating them or knew them or taught.
Speaker 1: So I think they just like freak out. You know,
Speaker 1: if someone finds out, they freak out. Maybe it makes
Speaker 1: them afraid of what they're what they like, or they're
Speaker 1: out sexuality and their friends will think they're gay or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's just, uh, you know, I don't know, and
Speaker 1: I have it pretty easy, you know. I still it's
Speaker 1: I do miss that white male privilege a little bit now,
Speaker 1: But I mean, like I passed pretty well. So I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone goes like a training, right, or if
Speaker 1: they do, it's only because they are around trans people
Speaker 1: and they're comfortable with it. What do you think of
Speaker 1: the word training? Because we had asked Bornstein, and she's like,
Speaker 1: I said that word all the time, and now apparently
Speaker 1: it's horrible that I say it. I say it all
Speaker 1: the time too. I feel it, but I feel like
Speaker 1: it's my worship. It is. Yes, it's like I just
Speaker 1: want to be special, you know. Blood here here's the
Speaker 1: only issue with the word. Like, if you look at
Speaker 1: those people who are murdered last year, I guarantee almost
Speaker 1: everyone the people murdering them were screaming tranny and fagging
Speaker 1: at them. And then so I mean, when you think
Speaker 1: of it that way, you think, okay, maybe it's not
Speaker 1: you know, it sounds it's a fun little word. Train
Speaker 1: just rolls off the top of that context that dark okay,
Speaker 1: right right, When you think of it that way, you're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: it does you know, you know, like when Dave Chappelle
Speaker 1: says or something like, it's not it's not coming from
Speaker 1: a place of like understanding, respect or anything. You know,
Speaker 1: it's coming from a different place. So well, yeah, because
Speaker 1: all basically all my gay male friends use tranny, but
Speaker 1: they also like date, they date on the leg like
Speaker 1: quote trannies and like you know, hot tranny mess in
Speaker 1: quotes is like they're saying that they use like I
Speaker 1: don't use it outside of gay clubs, but like that's
Speaker 1: just been a part of our vocabulary and like in
Speaker 1: our group for years. So it's weird now. And if
Speaker 1: someone like votes for people who support trans rights, they
Speaker 1: can say whatever the hell they want. You know, they
Speaker 1: can call me a shemail if they want to. But
Speaker 1: if you're going to write policy lady or something like that, whatever,
Speaker 1: whatever that name. But I was saying, it's a fabulous
Speaker 1: DJ names, been it all nice? You're looking for a sham?
Speaker 1: We got one, so I mean, but it's the ones
Speaker 1: that you know that use it in a bad way,
Speaker 1: those ones I really give a shit about. Right, And
Speaker 1: now you mentioned Dave Chappelle briefly, so as someone who's
Speaker 1: trans and a comic, I think you would be a
Speaker 1: great person to what were your thoughts and guys, Like,
Speaker 1: if you didn't watch it, just watch is it in
Speaker 1: Special one Special number one on Netflix? I think it's
Speaker 1: is the trans material. I'm I where he goes Kanye
Speaker 1: why the long face? He's like, you'll see the one
Speaker 1: where he's wearing a green jacket and looks, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the first. So that's the first. Now, I only watched
Speaker 1: the trans material for that, Like, I mean, i'd be
Speaker 1: if I I'd be curious to be like, what the
Speaker 1: you got to say? I was like, well, he worked
Speaker 1: on over the last year or so in New York,
Speaker 1: and he toned it down a lot. It was. It
Speaker 1: was worse at first, you know, And it's like I
Speaker 1: just can't bring myself to watch it because I know
Speaker 1: I'll watch it, and like he's if I have a
Speaker 1: successful career, if I'm fortunate enough to be successful for
Speaker 1: me right now, I still won't do one tenth what
Speaker 1: he has accomplished, you know, like killing me softly still
Speaker 1: is one of those things where I'm like, I need
Speaker 1: I wish I were that funny. You know, He's just
Speaker 1: got something especially as that make you want to quit,
Speaker 1: you know, right, But but I can't. I can't watch
Speaker 1: it because I know how he feels about trans people.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that Kanye joke I thought was pretty funny,
Speaker 1: you know, although Kanye was actually the only one in
Speaker 1: supporting like like actually was it was, um, what's her face?
Speaker 1: Kanye's wife? I can't I forget her name. It begins
Speaker 1: with the case, you know, Okay, okay, miss Kanye. Um No,
Speaker 1: but it's it's uh, you know, it's just like it
Speaker 1: wasn't like a funny thing he just likes, you know,
Speaker 1: it's an easy laugh. It's an easy target, just like
Speaker 1: making fun of fat people. You know, it's an easy thing,
Speaker 1: and it's it's not right, and so I'm not I can't.
Speaker 1: So you you didn't watch the finish what ended up
Speaker 1: in the special. I did watch it ended up in
Speaker 1: the special just because I knew people would eventually ask
Speaker 1: me about it. But I can't watch the special. I
Speaker 1: can't support it. You know, what was it in that material?
Speaker 1: Because I mean I think, I mean I watched it,
Speaker 1: you know, ready to get it, because it's like that's
Speaker 1: a that's like the like my little sister group, the
Speaker 1: one group that I'm like constantly looking out for. Everyone
Speaker 1: else could go suck it basically, and I truthfully like,
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't terrible because it's just like the anger,
Speaker 1: you know, being a black person and waiting all this
Speaker 1: time for rights and equality and then just kind of
Speaker 1: it was just it was more to me came off
Speaker 1: as like I'm frustrated and a little bit poud. You like,
Speaker 1: this isn't fair, but I don't necessarily like I think,
Speaker 1: you know, black people are consistently treated a second class
Speaker 1: citizens and I wish everyone had a quality in trans
Speaker 1: black and black people included. But I didn't necessarily like
Speaker 1: I got where it was coming from. So what is
Speaker 1: the offensive part to? You know? And I totally understand,
Speaker 1: But here's I mean. I mean, you saw his material
Speaker 1: before it was toned down, right and right sure, and
Speaker 1: I was like, you said, some ship because I know
Speaker 1: he would be the seller for like four hours at
Speaker 1: a time. And then when I heard about those specials,
Speaker 1: that's what he cut it down to to actually make it, yeah,
Speaker 1: more im palatable because it wasn't hitting the comparison between
Speaker 1: being black and being trans and rights. No, but yeah,
Speaker 1: and I understand that, but he's making it sound like
Speaker 1: like trans people are haven't made just because just because
Speaker 1: of Caitlyn Jenner, who you know, who a little but
Speaker 1: also that's a main stream example. Yeah, everyone can agree,
Speaker 1: but you know it's that, but it's never matter. But
Speaker 1: not an asshole because she's trans. She's an asshole because
Speaker 1: she's a sucking asshole, right right, like like when Bill
Speaker 1: Birds did that whole thing, Like I'm miss Bruce walking
Speaker 1: around the back ground like it's great. It was funny,
Speaker 1: I thought, but I mean, like my wait, his box
Speaker 1: hate that ship every day. It's just like you know,
Speaker 1: talking about a woman boys or trans woman boss slamming
Speaker 1: or dick on the table and stuff, and just like
Speaker 1: you know, how they haven't made now, so like guys
Speaker 1: are walking around heels and it's just like there wasn't
Speaker 1: excess of dick material and that special overall. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of punchlines were like suck
Speaker 1: my day, and I was like, okay, right, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I don't know, it's tough. It's tough for me
Speaker 1: to like speak bad about him, you know. But I
Speaker 1: mean it's just like if you realized even like the
Speaker 1: black trans women especially have it hard, why would you
Speaker 1: now say like this whole group hasn't made because one
Speaker 1: rich white asshole I know, like who's a Republican doesn't
Speaker 1: make tough for trans people. Don't make it sound like
Speaker 1: you know, we haven't made, and like, like even I
Speaker 1: can talk about how fortunately I am. Sometimes that's the
Speaker 1: damage to people's perception of how far along trans people are, right,
Speaker 1: And I don't I don't mind they're there are a
Speaker 1: couple like they're. There are a lot of funny things
Speaker 1: about trans people you can joke about. I think, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, what in your opinion, Like there's
Speaker 1: there's a comic up in Omnie rich Williams from LA
Speaker 1: and then he's nomen now. But he has this great
Speaker 1: joke about like talking to a redneck about Caitlyn Jenner
Speaker 1: and where the rednecks like, like he says something like
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna call him Bruce, and we're just like
Speaker 1: when at the grocery store, which you know, it's just
Speaker 1: like he does making fun of the dumb people, and
Speaker 1: you can make fun of Jenner and you can make
Speaker 1: fun of like I don't know, like, but I feel
Speaker 1: like at the expense of somebody, at the expense of somebody,
Speaker 1: because it's like I wouldn't make fun of black people,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, like I just feel like it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a little much. It's not funny, it's mean,
Speaker 1: it's cruel, and it's like and I know, pushing all
Speaker 1: the dumb dumbs in the audience. It's down, it's punching
Speaker 1: down because it's easy and that's where it's that's where
Speaker 1: I got. That's where I got a little bit set. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I understand that because I was like, I think
Speaker 1: you're you're coming from a point of view where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a Dave Chappelle is thinking that things are better
Speaker 1: for trans people, because I was watching it as it
Speaker 1: more like he was angry that the lgbt Q community,
Speaker 1: like specifically trans people just expect everything to be like
Speaker 1: they expect to be accepted immediately, whereas black people have
Speaker 1: kind of like given up in a way because out
Speaker 1: of frustration and and just being tired even trying to
Speaker 1: be like integrated into like the mainstream society really. So
Speaker 1: it's just like I was looking at from that way. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: things are things aren't okay for either group. It's I
Speaker 1: can't imagine how difficult it is to be black in America,
Speaker 1: you know, I can only I can only imagine, And
Speaker 1: and it's important that he's out there because he has
Speaker 1: a great voice for that, you know, he brings out it.
Speaker 1: But it's I just can't support it. I know he's
Speaker 1: got this animal towards he's uneducated to about like you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's still like kind of attached to the fact
Speaker 1: that black people are born looking black and there is
Speaker 1: nothing that they can do about it, whereas a trans
Speaker 1: person is making a choice in his you know, for
Speaker 1: in his mind that they're going to now change the
Speaker 1: way they look, and he's not really putting two and
Speaker 1: two together, that they're just matching how they feel inside.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that there's that's the disconnect there.
Speaker 1: It seems no, and it's you know, I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people feel that way, and I think, yes,
Speaker 1: or they just don't get it, you know, and oh
Speaker 1: yeah pretty soon. But I'm just like I was just
Speaker 1: maybe it's just like senior Hero, like you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: kick a kitten or something like that. You know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like Superman burnt my dog with his heat visions
Speaker 1: or something, you know. And just like whenever a male
Speaker 1: comic or even a female comic, like and they have
Speaker 1: a special out and they they just have a bit
Speaker 1: that's just shipping on women or like women are stupid
Speaker 1: idiot messes who can't control themselves and don't know what
Speaker 1: to do. I'm like, god, damn it, really, I just
Speaker 1: it's disappointing. It's really disappointing and disheartening. But I'm not like,
Speaker 1: yeah it is, and maybe you know, and I think
Speaker 1: people I think he can. I don't want to say
Speaker 1: no one can watch it. I don't want to say no,
Speaker 1: no one can make fun of trans people. I mean
Speaker 1: like it's if you're going to make those type of jokes,
Speaker 1: I don't have to watch you, you know exactly, So
Speaker 1: that's all right, that's your freedom. Yeah. Absolutely. Have you
Speaker 1: ever approached another comedian after a set for a trans
Speaker 1: joke they made that really you thought, really like offended
Speaker 1: you or was wrong to do? There were a couple, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there were a couple. There's one time and albody where
Speaker 1: someone I just did a couple of hackey trans jokes,
Speaker 1: so like I was up after him. So I just
Speaker 1: roasted him for like fivenes and it it felt good,
Speaker 1: But in the end it was like, well I probably
Speaker 1: should have said, you know, hey, by the way, this
Speaker 1: is why that's you know, like say, like then I
Speaker 1: turned around and it was a tranny hooker and then
Speaker 1: have this deep voice was like you know, it's like
Speaker 1: like good one, Yeah, no one's told that before. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, surprised it's a man that that's that's
Speaker 1: probably why half the women that were killed last year
Speaker 1: it were because that's the prize. It's a man type
Speaker 1: fear you guys have. So I don't know, but you
Speaker 1: seem to have a very good sense of humor about like, uh,
Speaker 1: being trans and like, you know, I see you make
Speaker 1: jokes on Facebook and you're not someone who seems unapproachable,
Speaker 1: which I think is really good because just like feminism
Speaker 1: is lacking a sense of humor, I feel like kind
Speaker 1: of the trans community is lacking a bit of a
Speaker 1: sense of humor, and even even like trans people themselves,
Speaker 1: just like you know, that's really you shouldn't dead name
Speaker 1: someone with or you shouldn't like bringing all these words
Speaker 1: that no one knows, you know, like no one knows
Speaker 1: what gender queer means other than like about you know,
Speaker 1: five percent of the population that took a gender studies class.
Speaker 1: So I mean, you can't really yell at someone for
Speaker 1: not calling you zir instead of But you know, I'm
Speaker 1: also wait, what's that's like a pronoun? A gender neutral
Speaker 1: pronoun like sir but for both something or all or
Speaker 1: here h I R. And I mean there are a few.
Speaker 1: It's like, don't don't yell at someone because they got
Speaker 1: your pronoun wrong right when it's I mean people don't
Speaker 1: even know basic englection. Yeah, it's I mean stuff like that.
Speaker 1: You're like, lighten up a little, you know, but that
Speaker 1: but that message, the lighten up a little part has
Speaker 1: to come from someone. But who's not this gender though, right,
Speaker 1: because it's this gender person saying that, which, like even
Speaker 1: if it's the sentiment is makes sense to everybody, it's
Speaker 1: it's still like you can't assist gender person. No, absolutely,
Speaker 1: yeah no, And yeah, we definitely do. And I like
Speaker 1: to think that I'm approachable but also unapologetic too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I also I'm sick a tired chance people being
Speaker 1: like why can't we have our rights? Why can't we
Speaker 1: do this? It's like well like like with the bathroom,
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna fucking use the bathroom in North Carolina
Speaker 1: if I'm down there because because and try and stop me,
Speaker 1: you know, And I don't want to be one of
Speaker 1: those people. It's just like, oh no, we got to
Speaker 1: do this. With legal channels and politics and stuff, it's
Speaker 1: like and and to just focus on other things. And
Speaker 1: if you don't like what's happening with the policies that
Speaker 1: are being made like, focus on one of your midterm elections,
Speaker 1: who are the candidates that support lgbt Q rights and
Speaker 1: try let's try to get those elected at the local
Speaker 1: level so that eventually in the government there are people
Speaker 1: who are like pro rights for everybody. Yeah, yeah, absolutely
Speaker 1: to be like like all minorities fighting over the scraps
Speaker 1: and getting you know, but that's a little utopians. But
Speaker 1: with the bathroom stuff though, so you said you're gonna
Speaker 1: go to the whatever bathroom you feel comfortable using, uh
Speaker 1: in North Carolina, I mean, do you recommend other people
Speaker 1: do that because, like you kind of mentioned before, like
Speaker 1: your white you do pass really well. So it's like,
Speaker 1: I mean that when that that could be dangerous too,
Speaker 1: That's yeah, I mean I just don't because I never know,
Speaker 1: like because I am all for like, do whatever the
Speaker 1: funk you want, But then every now and then it's
Speaker 1: like I'm saving in a kind of a different world,
Speaker 1: like white women are. We're really like we're the last
Speaker 1: you know, My bags aren't even checked from my going
Speaker 1: into Madison Square Garden, like just no one gives a ship,
Speaker 1: No one thinks I'm doing anything. So it's like if
Speaker 1: we want to start a coup. White women I think
Speaker 1: need to start it were the least suspect, but so true.
Speaker 1: I just don't know white women in the white now, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's sing one of you, one of you needs to
Speaker 1: do this for us. I just don't know what to
Speaker 1: recommend to like our listeners, that's true. And I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want people to put themselves in harm harm's way because
Speaker 1: you gotta take a risk. But also I don't want
Speaker 1: that risk to be you punched in the face. And
Speaker 1: then you know, Rose Parks took a damn risk and
Speaker 1: she she was elderly though, even though you would be
Speaker 1: really fucked up. And also the Rose of Parks thing
Speaker 1: that was actually it wasn't just like an old lady
Speaker 1: decided to say that she was in the first one.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying like that was like a planned
Speaker 1: out thing through the civil rights movement, like they had
Speaker 1: planned that for a long And I want to be
Speaker 1: the Rosa Parks of taking a ship that is amazing,
Speaker 1: that's fucking great, know that UM want to be parts
Speaker 1: that they can. I don't know, I guess I just
Speaker 1: I guess I just like have this like in your
Speaker 1: face kind of mentality. Yeah, that's why I do it.
Speaker 1: And I hope everyone in North Carolina, like like like
Speaker 1: the kids in school and stuff are careful. I really
Speaker 1: really do think was that I think worked, But I'm
Speaker 1: curious to your opinion. Like all these people when that
Speaker 1: when that bill passed or when that bill was being
Speaker 1: talked about, all these companies and concerts and they canceled everything,
Speaker 1: they canceled everything, um and and our agents had asked
Speaker 1: us like do you want to go to North Carolina
Speaker 1: and you know this is what's happening, and we were
Speaker 1: aware and we're like no, And it did do something
Speaker 1: that the state lost a lot of revenue and that's
Speaker 1: what was inspired the change. That's probably why. That's probably
Speaker 1: election and that's why. Yes. And money and I mean, Jesus,
Speaker 1: I wish it didn't come down to money, but it
Speaker 1: always comes down to money with drug company incentives, like
Speaker 1: it's the money in big pharmaceuticals or in oil or
Speaker 1: in it's all fucking money. It was. It was pretty
Speaker 1: It was pretty cool to say, yeah, it was. It
Speaker 1: really was. Yeah. And it's cool to see other people
Speaker 1: stand up for uh, for trans people, other cis gender people,
Speaker 1: because it's like that's you need when there's a movement,
Speaker 1: you need the opposite one of whoever whatever the group
Speaker 1: is to be on board. And then everyone goes, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: right there. If they can't see themselves in the movement,
Speaker 1: then I don't care. It's so weird. Was forty two,
Speaker 1: So that's like she was older, but not elderly. Because
Speaker 1: I was thinking my head, I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: want a bunch of middle aged women to get me
Speaker 1: angry about that. I just I was. I quickly did
Speaker 1: the math, but I was like, she wasn't like it
Speaker 1: wasn't like it wasn't like a twenty three year old,
Speaker 1: like I'm so tired, she's gonna sit right here. She
Speaker 1: was like a missing in the in the sixties. That's like,
Speaker 1: that's like it was so she was almost debt, you know, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: from holy on, tuberculosis, all those diseases from then. Um,
Speaker 1: what about your mom? Does you know? I mean, well,
Speaker 1: she actually passed away. Thanks, thanks, thanks, Now you have
Speaker 1: something else to deal with. She was great with it.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it took her a little while.
Speaker 1: Like she was always she never said that, right, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not except she was. She always tried and I
Speaker 1: think it really clicked after a few years. We really
Speaker 1: just had fun together and it was really sweet. That's awesome. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And do you think that you're when when both your
Speaker 1: parents were still a lot they were they married or yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so do you think they were like conversations or did
Speaker 1: they ever say anything to you kind of like as
Speaker 1: a duo being like, um, not really no, No, I
Speaker 1: think I mean like they knew something was up, but
Speaker 1: they didn't know. I wouldn't guess. They probably were thinking
Speaker 1: you were gay, because that's the number one thought, not
Speaker 1: trans is not I don't think most people's the number one. Well,
Speaker 1: and the depression too. I think they saw I was
Speaker 1: depressed all the time too. That's where they thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: something's wrong. Did they ever try to help you with
Speaker 1: your depression? You know? Once my dad like, uh, I said,
Speaker 1: that's what you're in to therapy? This is I'm not
Speaker 1: even like like one time, yeah, while he's beating were
Speaker 1: very simple. So it was right after he threw me
Speaker 1: out of a tree. No, why were you in the Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: climbing away from the problem. Yeah. Now he's like that
Speaker 1: they together is like, we think you should see a therapist,
Speaker 1: and I probably should have gone. You know, I think
Speaker 1: I said yes and then it just fell through the cracks.
Speaker 1: But I just like in my head, I was like,
Speaker 1: what if I can't lie to the therapist? You know
Speaker 1: what if the therapist finds out and tells him? So
Speaker 1: you know, I think they knew something's wrong. But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's so much lying and secrecy involved before you kind
Speaker 1: of come out. And how does that How did that
Speaker 1: take its toll on you? It's just depressions. You're you're suppressing.
Speaker 1: That's spite of yourself. That's it's such a big part
Speaker 1: of who you are, right and Irish Catholics. So of
Speaker 1: course I prayed, yeah, and so I prayed that that
Speaker 1: did a lot of good. What did you pray forward
Speaker 1: that you need to wake up to wake up the
Speaker 1: next day as a girl? You know, just like yeah,
Speaker 1: sweet and sad, Just like it's like if you did
Speaker 1: like a time lapse of me getting old, you're still praying.
Speaker 1: It's just like so depressing. You're just like, my prayer
Speaker 1: hasn't changed. What's your what's your relationship with God and religion? Now? Uh? Well,
Speaker 1: not good. We're having we're having some issues. We're taking
Speaker 1: a break. Um, now I can see myself more agnostic
Speaker 1: right now. Um, you know, I also have a very
Speaker 1: scientific minds and I think, you know, it's tough for
Speaker 1: me to grasp this giant guy in the clouds. Yeah
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, no, for sure. I mean I was
Speaker 1: asking on Twitter yesterday, like if you believe in God?
Speaker 1: And I'm not joking, like I truly want people to
Speaker 1: explain why they believe in God. Because my best friend
Speaker 1: believes in God. My boyfriend believes in God, and I
Speaker 1: know I do use against them sometimes, not my best friend,
Speaker 1: but like you know, sometimes we'll get in a fight
Speaker 1: and I'll you know, I will say, well, you're a
Speaker 1: fucking idiot. You believe in God, and that's not the
Speaker 1: way that I want to be. Breath message, but it's hard,
Speaker 1: but a lot, but a lot of the reasons that
Speaker 1: I got almost nine for. Some of the reasons were
Speaker 1: like because I have to, because I was told to,
Speaker 1: Because it's easier to believe than not to believe. Because
Speaker 1: I want to be safe, because if I get to heaven,
Speaker 1: Like just no one gave me a good answer. Some
Speaker 1: people guys a good book recommendation, it's a good answer
Speaker 1: to them, though, I mean because because I if it's
Speaker 1: something like because it helps me live a better life,
Speaker 1: then all right, do you that's fine as a tool
Speaker 1: for them. But I was like, that's never gonna make
Speaker 1: me a believer because that's just to me. You're just like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're just taking the easy road. And I get that,
Speaker 1: and that's fine and life is ship and however you
Speaker 1: can get through it, more power to you. But were
Speaker 1: you trying to like believe, like basically say, like convince
Speaker 1: me to believe in God God believers? I mean it
Speaker 1: was more like, I mean, I it's going to take
Speaker 1: a lot for me to believe in God again. But
Speaker 1: I mean it was just more like I wanted to
Speaker 1: see where people are coming from. Yeah, that's all now
Speaker 1: it's blind faith. And I think I think like people created.
Speaker 1: I think if God didn't exist, man had to create him.
Speaker 1: You know, I think like they you need something to
Speaker 1: like be like this isn't it. This can't be hit.
Speaker 1: You know, once we die, we can't. You know, our
Speaker 1: loved ones can't. Just it's horrifying. Our loved ones have
Speaker 1: to be somewhere happy and you know we can't think
Speaker 1: of them well exactly. And it makes sense. I mean,
Speaker 1: because it's like when you but then anyone who's familiar
Speaker 1: with Greek mythology and then you hear about God, You're like,
Speaker 1: aren't going to make some kind of connection there? Like,
Speaker 1: no one's no one believes that Greek mythology is real.
Speaker 1: It's literally called mythology. But but then God, Everyone's like, no,
Speaker 1: that's on the think. You know, whole states and and
Speaker 1: and rules and laws are on our money. God is
Speaker 1: on our money. B C. Louise bit about like the
Speaker 1: Christians one like two, two thousand seventeen years after Christ,
Speaker 1: like that, we just count one two. Oh God dying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's coming out with a new one on Netflix too,
Speaker 1: So that was from it. It It came out Tuesday. Did
Speaker 1: it really fucking funniest thing I've ever seen. I've never
Speaker 1: cried so much. I was gonna say, I cried laughing too,
Speaker 1: and I haven't cried laughing in a long time. And
Speaker 1: even Yeah, my my boyfriend was very like hesitant because
Speaker 1: he had gotten very political and everyone got political and
Speaker 1: kind of got not funny. This podcast is included. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's hard to be funny when you're angry, unless you're
Speaker 1: Louis Black, Black or something. Like, yeah, that's this whole thing,
Speaker 1: you know, the anger of the politics. It worked perfectly
Speaker 1: for someone like him. But yeah, no, but Louis, he delivered.
Speaker 1: So it's on Netflix waiting for you. Good good, yeah,
Speaker 1: the last Like there are a few people I saw
Speaker 1: that I had tears in the last few, like Gary
Speaker 1: Gallman when Jared Carmichael has a fucking one of the
Speaker 1: best batchil I've ever seen on HBO really so good.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, my roommate has HBO now so used
Speaker 1: to not have an HBO. I'm like you have, oh man,
Speaker 1: So what are you do? What is you live in
Speaker 1: l A? Now? I did liven up work? Um? Have
Speaker 1: you tried to date in l A yet? This hasn't
Speaker 1: been a long time. Not really, not really, Like I
Speaker 1: did this little accountant on one of the dating sites,
Speaker 1: you know, like yeah, shemale yum yum or something. Not
Speaker 1: really that's not there's not a real thing, but it
Speaker 1: could be if shemale that is that is the anything? Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did sign But then I'm like, no, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like yeah, and you just moved to
Speaker 1: new Town, You're like about I get booked regularly in
Speaker 1: this New placed a profile look like that when you
Speaker 1: sign up for an app. Um, I imagine it's very
Speaker 1: funny and you like draw like just like dicks everywhere
Speaker 1: on your picture. That would be awesome. That would be awesome,
Speaker 1: like like draw one on my profile picture, like a
Speaker 1: giant dicks or something like that. Harry Perez Hilton old school. Yes, Now,
Speaker 1: I think it just says likes to do nothing like
Speaker 1: watching TV and movies, you know that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: It doesn't like to go out hiking. Ever, no hiking.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hike that you guys, hi no energy? Yes,
Speaker 1: right right, but but you don't. The trans conversation is
Speaker 1: conversation that you have wet first first thing, like I
Speaker 1: want them to know before a date. But it's not
Speaker 1: in your profile. Oh yeah, like it definitely would be
Speaker 1: in my profile absolutely because some people I feel like
Speaker 1: some people you know are waiting to like dates three.
Speaker 1: But how did you come to the decision that you
Speaker 1: want people to know right away, because it's just it's
Speaker 1: unfair and it's dangerous. Yeah, totally. Um, And I think
Speaker 1: like if you if you do get like date number three,
Speaker 1: they'll probably be kind of piste, you know, right, so
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want people to know right off the bat.
Speaker 1: You know, have you ever not told somebody off the bat? Uh? No,
Speaker 1: not not that I've dated like people are interested in
Speaker 1: I wouldn't tell him. But yeah, let's see how interesting
Speaker 1: you tell your friends like new friends. Um, because it's
Speaker 1: not like not really not a defining thing. It's not
Speaker 1: a part of you, but exactly it's not the only
Speaker 1: thing you think about exactly, Like I don't tell them
Speaker 1: sagittarius either, you know that sort of thing. So it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, but but if friends have questions
Speaker 1: or like, what, has there ever been an instance where
Speaker 1: you didn't come out and be like, I'm trans, but
Speaker 1: like the friend like me slowly figured it out and
Speaker 1: then came to So I think most of the comics
Speaker 1: and almany like like I never used to talk about
Speaker 1: being trans on stage, okay, um oh yeah the clip
Speaker 1: that you had sent to us about the that we
Speaker 1: put in our LGBT right about Jazz Jennings, like that
Speaker 1: was such a great I love that clip. I love
Speaker 1: that story. Thanks. Um. Yeah, No, I never used to
Speaker 1: talk about it's and I used to say, like I
Speaker 1: used to try and justify it by saying like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be known as the trans comic,
Speaker 1: you know, But really it was just I was just afraid,
Speaker 1: you know, and I know, like some of my friends knew.
Speaker 1: And then someone someone went to a comic friend and said,
Speaker 1: is Jay trans? And my comic friend just said, you know,
Speaker 1: you'll have to ask her. And then I thought, like,
Speaker 1: people actually think I'm hiding this, you know, right, and
Speaker 1: that's not Yeah, you weren't doing it, and I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing anyone any favors, myself included by hiding it.
Speaker 1: I'm not being authentic. I'm not really letting loose. So
Speaker 1: it's just I get the hesitation though, just because people
Speaker 1: are simple, like just especially people in like upstate New
Speaker 1: York or anywhere throughout the country that isn't like a city,
Speaker 1: that's all they're going to think about. And it's like
Speaker 1: that's the that person is trans, and that's that's they're
Speaker 1: defining feature for you, and as in two thousand seventeen,
Speaker 1: that's how people want to know me anyway. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't think we're at a point where someone could
Speaker 1: be like, oh, they're trans, but you know, that's not
Speaker 1: that big of a deal. Yeah, I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, is it harder to be a woman or
Speaker 1: harder to be transm You see, I only have my
Speaker 1: experience as a trans person, of course, so it's tough
Speaker 1: for me to Yeah, so for you what's harder for me?
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's probably tougher to be trans, but
Speaker 1: because that's where my mental energy is, you know, all
Speaker 1: the time, and the way that people talk about trans
Speaker 1: people in the news or it's just like everyone's debating
Speaker 1: about is there are they confused? It's like, shut the
Speaker 1: fuck up, and now it's like like they're feminists for
Speaker 1: a very anti trans to really yeah, oh yeah, well
Speaker 1: even the LGBTQ community is not absolutely great to transit
Speaker 1: community because they want to they want somebody they want
Speaker 1: to discriminate because they've been discriminated or yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just like it's the same thing that we always
Speaker 1: anyone who has been discriminated against or treated like sugar outcasting.
Speaker 1: I think it's like, you know, you look at the
Speaker 1: comedy community. We're a bunch of fucking losers for the
Speaker 1: most part, who got made front of in high school
Speaker 1: and uh, it's one of the most clicky scenes ever,
Speaker 1: because it's like, oh I finally have the power to
Speaker 1: say no, you're not cool, you're not welcome, and they
Speaker 1: get they go mad with it. Uh yeah, it's weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very weird. Have you ever had any experiences that
Speaker 1: really like hurt your heart within the LGBTQ community where
Speaker 1: you didn't feel welcome. I'm trying to think there's I
Speaker 1: mean not really. I mean that the people about being
Speaker 1: women all the time. I'm like, no, it's been fine.
Speaker 1: So if it's fine, please don't like if you like,
Speaker 1: you may make anything. You know, I mean like I
Speaker 1: would get into fights with like their their drag queens
Speaker 1: who would be like just very anti trans or something
Speaker 1: like that. Queens anti everything. That's the that's their way off.
Speaker 1: That's that's just I know, you get to that point
Speaker 1: when you're like, okay, you know, queens are the only
Speaker 1: kind of people that scare me because here's there's notation.
Speaker 1: I know, it's like I'm not trying to steal your job, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know I'm not. I'm never gonna do makeup. I
Speaker 1: think like you're like the real deal. But you're right,
Speaker 1: I didn't even say that you're you're saying it, and
Speaker 1: there's there's actually like some a lot of times you'll
Speaker 1: see um like a Pride event, but they won't have
Speaker 1: any trance performers to only have like drag queens and
Speaker 1: like you know, like the typical sort of stuff, and
Speaker 1: you're just like, al right, come on, come on, that's
Speaker 1: so gay. You have a gay performer. Congratulations. It's like,
Speaker 1: what next the women's rugby team? Come on, guys, stereotypes.
Speaker 1: What do you say when people suggest that you transition
Speaker 1: for the attention? Say that? I say, no, I transition
Speaker 1: to make money in women's golf. That's a good answer
Speaker 1: for attention, should be the title of this episode. No,
Speaker 1: I'm like not really because because I don't wear a
Speaker 1: shirt that says I'm trans you know, like walking I
Speaker 1: try non let you know, well, it's a it's just
Speaker 1: like it's kind of this room where that goes around
Speaker 1: a lot of people think I'll go to a confusion
Speaker 1: or be attention because that's but the attention thing is
Speaker 1: them trying to just trying to end their confusion about it,
Speaker 1: like you must be this Oh yeah, yeah, that's expensive.
Speaker 1: That's what That's what I always tell people. I'm wearing
Speaker 1: that is a very deep dedicated get a puppet. You
Speaker 1: change your genital haircut, dye your hair in the collar. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm actually got caught off my nose and glues in
Speaker 1: my forehead. Yeah, I mean that's my attention. Gether. So
Speaker 1: do you watch porn? Uh? A little? What kind of
Speaker 1: porn do you like? Um? You know, it's tough. It's
Speaker 1: tough for me to find something because I usually watched
Speaker 1: like lately, alright, it goes in phase, it I go
Speaker 1: and phase. Lately it's actually been trying for yeah, because
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in the position of the trans person. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, so's it'll be like a trans person and
Speaker 1: a guy or something like that, or a trans person
Speaker 1: and another transfer or transfer something. So it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: they're a bunch of different ones. But that's pretty much right.
Speaker 1: I mean I get the wettest off of narcissism as well.
Speaker 1: So I just try to find a porn where someone
Speaker 1: looks almost exactly like me. Actually, I masturbate to my
Speaker 1: comedy routine. Wow, that's funny, just like it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you look good there, don't you know what? I know
Speaker 1: what you're thinking because you're gonna say it right now. God,
Speaker 1: that's like a fleabag where the main characters masturbating to
Speaker 1: Barack Obama's still yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's hysterical. And her boyfriend's like, what are you doing? Nothing?
Speaker 1: I mean I've listened to my own sets around the
Speaker 1: house and just laughed like that funny, Oh man, have
Speaker 1: some funny. We could change. We can change together. Yeah together.
Speaker 1: You're like calling out your own punchline before you say it.
Speaker 1: Um so, what else is something that you would like
Speaker 1: people to know about you that has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with you being trans or comic? Just so boring? I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm such a we can't have moments of silence for yeah,
Speaker 1: like like the crickets in the background or whatever. Um No,
Speaker 1: I'm very very dull. I'm not very you can't be though.
Speaker 1: I am the worst. I really am. I'm terrible. I'll
Speaker 1: just sit home like I was up till two in
Speaker 1: the morning watching My six Pound Life Welcome to My Life.
Speaker 1: Did you watch it? I don't. I thought that when
Speaker 1: that Karen Fianna was on it she got in trouble. No,
Speaker 1: that was that was That was the Whitney show. No.
Speaker 1: Last night there were there were these two brothers from
Speaker 1: Rhode Islands. They have these thick New England accents and
Speaker 1: my six hundred I don't even know. It's just like
Speaker 1: the Twounds six eight no, yeah, you know, big boys.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're single. You gotta be at least be six
Speaker 1: d again on the show. Out out, hey, slim, go
Speaker 1: to the next show. Maybe Whitney needs a friend on
Speaker 1: her show. Oh my god, what's that? What's what is that? That?
Speaker 1: My something life? It's like it's a playoff the my
Speaker 1: my Greek wedding, So what is it my big, big
Speaker 1: fat life? Yeah, something like I think fat fabulous. I
Speaker 1: think they always throw the word fabulous in there when
Speaker 1: anytime something is going really wrong, they're like, let's just
Speaker 1: say fat. Tell the person is the most insecure about
Speaker 1: themselves when they call themselves fas right, and then it's
Speaker 1: like you're just trying to make up her lost confidences
Speaker 1: about that. I hear the word fabulous, I just think
Speaker 1: of like a gay man on Zanex with this most
Speaker 1: cigarette smoking a cloth shaking. It's farabulous. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: writing act for their playing watch reality TV shows in
Speaker 1: a really on time because I hate the ones where
Speaker 1: women just fighting pull hair because I'm like, that's how
Speaker 1: we aren't all. But it's fascinating to watch somebody who
Speaker 1: just has a different lifestyle than you and and if
Speaker 1: you're six, Like we TV started doing this thing where
Speaker 1: they're doing all these like like they have this one
Speaker 1: soul kitchen, so it's like all black and it's just
Speaker 1: like the worst stereotypes, just like they always put the
Speaker 1: word soul or urban and it's like, we know what
Speaker 1: you meant have to do that, just give it a
Speaker 1: regular name. It's very insult And then the white announcer
Speaker 1: comes over. These guys know how to cook, they're groovy,
Speaker 1: and hit, shut up, what's cooking in soul kitchen? Come
Speaker 1: find out on we TV, O my God and taste
Speaker 1: some bite And then they just have five minutes of
Speaker 1: sent like, right, this is good, thou cure you feel uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: you know. The actor feels like my favorite things though,
Speaker 1: like moonshiners and swamp people where they have to like
Speaker 1: like I don't watch them anymore. Really Duck Dynasty ship,
Speaker 1: that ship got big. The fact that they have to
Speaker 1: subtitle these people speaking English, that's perfect, perfect God, yes,
Speaker 1: easy at people just I want to hear them talk
Speaker 1: politics once, just once. I can't, you know, just like yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's just like when you're when you're done, you know,
Speaker 1: crocodile hunting, how would you you know, find a cure
Speaker 1: for cancer. You're trying not to stereotype people who talk
Speaker 1: a lot. They you know, mom and door. But it's like, well,
Speaker 1: then show me one with smart things to say, and
Speaker 1: I won't stereotype like the one Moonshine or like one
Speaker 1: of them this year is like put off his finger
Speaker 1: at some point, like of course you did, because you
Speaker 1: just know, oh my god, you think about like fiscal policy, right, well,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's just like anyone who's who's an
Speaker 1: avid watcher of TLC should have not been surprised in November.
Speaker 1: Like I mean absolutely, CLC. It's my life. I watched
Speaker 1: so much. They got some good ship. It's like a quality.
Speaker 1: It's like there is a certain quality because it's like
Speaker 1: you can't just watch any reality TV show CLC and Bravo,
Speaker 1: because that's why they called the Learning Channel. You learned
Speaker 1: to be thankful that you are not any any of
Speaker 1: those day in categories You're like, I really dodged the bullets.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, would you seem like a lot of
Speaker 1: I would date? You know? Sweet? Don't? Yeah, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: I'm fun to hang around with once a while, but
Speaker 1: then usually I'm just like, I'm like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: shower today. Is that cool? You know? On days? Five days?
Speaker 1: I hate showing. I hate it. Really, it's stupid. Hutchinson
Speaker 1: water conservative conservationist. Yeah, behind that, yeah, I was like
Speaker 1: conservatory and I was like, not sure if that's a word.
Speaker 1: I'm I might have just made it up. But perfect,
Speaker 1: like Henry the eighth once and once a week or
Speaker 1: something like that. Right, that's good. I shower once a week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that happens often. But Henry the Eighth, I feel like
Speaker 1: I had an excuse because it seemed like a big
Speaker 1: process to shower. Yet, like my six so annoying, so
Speaker 1: many nooks and crannies and the fat. Yeah, you get
Speaker 1: lift up, but then there it always like their legs
Speaker 1: always end up looking like some kind of like sea earthing.
Speaker 1: It's like an English muffin kind of thing. You know. Well,
Speaker 1: it's like you know when a candle, You light a
Speaker 1: candle and then it just like builds up run. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like like they stand up naked but their stomach is
Speaker 1: down to their knees and it's like you don't. And
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, God, I mean, I mean sometimes
Speaker 1: I have a trouble like reaching down between my toes,
Speaker 1: so I can only imagine, you know, if I have
Speaker 1: I get dizzy, and whenever I bend over and get
Speaker 1: I can't even touch my toes without without your very though,
Speaker 1: you are very dull, true. So that's okay almost six.
Speaker 1: Where can we find you online? J McBride dot com.
Speaker 1: It's j A Y E. McBride M c b R
Speaker 1: I D. And what's your exact address in l A Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's your Social Security number? And the number UM? And
Speaker 1: is there anything You've been told them very easy to
Speaker 1: find online? So yeah, I've been told it's very easy
Speaker 1: to find out where I live. Do you have any
Speaker 1: dates uh in the next month or so? I have
Speaker 1: a couple right now, but I think I don't know.
Speaker 1: But when I get back to l A. UM, I'm
Speaker 1: at Flappers a couple of times I have. There's a
Speaker 1: great benefit, an anti bowling benefit in Culver City. You
Speaker 1: find them my Facebook page. Johnny Fagan, Carol that and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be there, so yeah, it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: pretty cool thing. It's it's some peaks like that. That's
Speaker 1: in the twenty second and you go to my Facebook page,
Speaker 1: Jay McBride, everything's gonna see that. Cool, perfect, so much fun. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, so much, so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Absolutely we appreciate it. This has been Guys we Fux,
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