Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast will Save your marriage. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Kansas, and I am joined by
Speaker 1: room filled some heroes, Mark Sessler, Dave Dama. Check you're
Speaker 1: still doing this? Holly? Well, what's up people? Some heroes?
Speaker 1: I get it. It's not all heroes. It's not all heroes.
Speaker 1: Maybe sev this will go very smoothly. I predict today
Speaker 1: we uh, you know, we had our to quote a
Speaker 1: check is um are still a day last yesterday Wednesday
Speaker 1: when we went to Chavez Ravine in the Dodger game. Uh,
Speaker 1: we had a great time together and figured this might
Speaker 1: be a good spot. West is not available today. Greg's
Speaker 1: still on vacation in or maybe murdered by Miko Grimes
Speaker 1: at this point. Uh. Just to get the group and
Speaker 1: continue those good time vibes that we had. How about that,
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Yeah, it was a wonderful time it Uh.
Speaker 1: I hate to start out with the correction, but the
Speaker 1: I know the locals get miffed when people mispronounced Chavez Ravine.
Speaker 1: I always but Chavez Ravine. But either way, a glorious time.
Speaker 1: That's right when you're sitting under the Southern California son
Speaker 1: in the middle of the week at high drinking a beer.
Speaker 1: You're officially cheating life. It was wonderful, I did. There
Speaker 1: was a little cheating as well, I thought. In terms
Speaker 1: of the fan experience. The old zeuser got you. Oh god, seriously,
Speaker 1: you were fine with it. Did not even put up
Speaker 1: a fight. In all my years, um, I have never
Speaker 1: left a sporting event early until I got ganged up
Speaker 1: on four on one yesterday. Everyone looking at bail a
Speaker 1: to one game in the ninth inning, the Dodgers leading,
Speaker 1: uh and and the Nationals put their first guy on
Speaker 1: base like a line drive single down the first base line,
Speaker 1: tying on base. Nobody nobody, uh, nobody out and what
Speaker 1: are we doing. We're walking to the parking lot to
Speaker 1: quote beat the traffic. Well, hold on right, one word beer.
Speaker 1: Because the game was so swift, and how how quickly
Speaker 1: it moved that they shut down as they do in
Speaker 1: the seventh inning. The beer. The beer sales, and it
Speaker 1: was only about two fifteen and at least three people
Speaker 1: of that group. I'm not gonna say who, but at
Speaker 1: least three people only went to that event. Four beer.
Speaker 1: So that you should get you did get out ruled.
Speaker 1: You're you're correct. It is one of those things that
Speaker 1: when some people like to go to the ball game
Speaker 1: and it's all about, you know, a big genta fest
Speaker 1: and everybody's gabbing and and drinking their beer and eating
Speaker 1: this that's what you do. But I am watching the game.
Speaker 1: In fact, I stole a moment Dave. At one point
Speaker 1: uh some high profile at bats in the game, Bryce
Speaker 1: Harper against Clayton Kershaw, I said, I gotta get I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get myself here and enjoy this because I was
Speaker 1: there for the game as well. I respect that. In
Speaker 1: broad strokes, hands zeus I too, no matter how festive
Speaker 1: everyone else wants it to be. Often if one of
Speaker 1: my teams is playing in a big, big game, people say, hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to come over? I'm having like ten
Speaker 1: fifteen people by, Like, no, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: I the least I can do if coach Tomlin and
Speaker 1: company or the Pittsburgh Penguins are chasing another cup or
Speaker 1: whatever the issue. I mean, the least I can do
Speaker 1: is give them my undivided attention. They've worked so hard
Speaker 1: these past months. Now that brings me to this point.
Speaker 1: Hands which of those two teams were you rooting for?
Speaker 1: What do you care if the Dodgers are the nash
Speaker 1: did you did you have invested interests in either team?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I would I guess the
Speaker 1: Dodgers would be. I didn't even want to say my
Speaker 1: second favorite team because it is I am just a
Speaker 1: Yankee fan. But yeah, I just wanted to see the
Speaker 1: conclusion of the game. I find entertainment value in that situation.
Speaker 1: Ninth inning, one run game, man on baseis But I
Speaker 1: didn't lose sleep over it. I really didn't. Well, I
Speaker 1: just had never done it before. It felt a little dirty.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying, did it feel dirty when
Speaker 1: we got in the car and just drove right out
Speaker 1: of there? That I felt cleaner at that point. Well,
Speaker 1: it worked out because as we were about to we
Speaker 1: all none of us knew where our car was to start.
Speaker 1: Both as soon as we found the car, you heard
Speaker 1: the game end. So had something you know, pivotal happened.
Speaker 1: I think we would never be hearing the end of it.
Speaker 1: But it did work out by circumstance, at least, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you this, you know, I I am really uncynical
Speaker 1: about that every time I hear um, I Love l A,
Speaker 1: and you hear it at the end of every sporting
Speaker 1: event here in l A and beyond. I just all
Speaker 1: these years in the in the living in southern California.
Speaker 1: To continue the point, I still feel like on some level,
Speaker 1: I'm cheating life. I can't believe that we're like I lovely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did it, you know. And I know the song
Speaker 1: is supposed to be satirical, and yet I don't care.
Speaker 1: I I I just I embrace it fully and without
Speaker 1: any irony. The thing I do resent, though, hands Zeus,
Speaker 1: is the way is your tone of voice that you
Speaker 1: took when you were explaining our side of things to
Speaker 1: quote unquote beat the traffic as though you're some sort
Speaker 1: of Republican congressman, doubting the veracity of of whether or
Speaker 1: not we would have been in much worse traffic had
Speaker 1: we sat there for an extra ten minutes, we would
Speaker 1: have been there for forty five extra minutes. Instead, we
Speaker 1: went to your beloved nostalgic bar in Hollywood. Birds won um.
Speaker 1: And if you're young, if you're younger, you're not familiar
Speaker 1: with the song I Love l A. We would play
Speaker 1: it for you right now, but the really strict rights
Speaker 1: issues that in this building the esoteric viewpoint. But this
Speaker 1: is kind of what that song sounds like. So that's
Speaker 1: not quite I love but kind of like it. I
Speaker 1: don't want to co opt this. Uh this your your
Speaker 1: your baby here hands Zeus named the a t N podcast, which,
Speaker 1: like I said, again, good for you that you guys
Speaker 1: have stuck with it. Um, not only that you've gone
Speaker 1: one step beyond Dan hands Zeus has issued this very day,
Speaker 1: the virgin run of a brand new podcast promoted here
Speaker 1: are you not gonna do that? There? You philosophically against
Speaker 1: that because you don't want to be charged with hypocrisy
Speaker 1: by Greg Rosen to a year or two ago, did
Speaker 1: have the temerity on this show to promote his Anthony
Speaker 1: Jeselnick and Greg Rosenthal vanity project. Yes, so there is
Speaker 1: the Throwback podcast, the new podcast with my buddy Bob
Speaker 1: cast drone where we revisit albums from our formative years.
Speaker 1: You can get it now on iTunes and uh throwback
Speaker 1: pod on Twitter. Very excited to start that and Greg
Speaker 1: and I will probably have to have a talk about that,
Speaker 1: but I did I will say so there is a difference. Uh,
Speaker 1: he was coming into this studio, man, uh to record
Speaker 1: a football podcast, a competing podcast. In my mind, this
Speaker 1: is a little different. This is a music podcast, totally
Speaker 1: different world, not on work hours, recorded in your garage,
Speaker 1: and about a completely different subject matter. And and Mark Sesler, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, not for nothing, we got to get
Speaker 1: the show going. This is a very damnis checking and
Speaker 1: start to the show another day. I don't under I
Speaker 1: don't get that. I don't get the passive aggressive. I
Speaker 1: am not the only one with a new podcast, a
Speaker 1: new side project, Mark Sessler and Connor or the Heat
Speaker 1: and Light podcast. Is that correct? It is. We have
Speaker 1: no idea what it's about, but it's essentially not about
Speaker 1: It's not about football. And so again it is not
Speaker 1: competing for any shared real estate, although I do typically
Speaker 1: I will on my worktime because I don't have I
Speaker 1: will use worktime for this. I'll see what sort of
Speaker 1: high ranking executive is not in the building. I'll go
Speaker 1: record it in their office. Yours is about music, though
Speaker 1: hands it is. It's about yeah that Bob and I
Speaker 1: grew up together. In the albums that we listen to,
Speaker 1: not always albums that have held up and stuff. The
Speaker 1: gin blossoms on the greatest. You don't get that, you
Speaker 1: get doing the back of the head. That's episode three.
Speaker 1: Uh yes, anyway, so I check that out. Thank you, Dave. Uh.
Speaker 1: Let's do some news, and to do that we gotta
Speaker 1: throw behind the glass. This is really what an interesting
Speaker 1: show this is because behind the Glass filling in for Sully,
Speaker 1: who was filling in for Las sid It is the
Speaker 1: great m VP making her around the NFL podcast debut
Speaker 1: it's going on. Guys, I'm glad to be the third
Speaker 1: string a t N producer. Anything I can do. I mean, technically,
Speaker 1: perhaps that's true. But at the same time, I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody thinks that Emma is a third stringer. A
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people believe she is a
Speaker 1: star in this building. Let's do some news for New
Speaker 1: York j E T E Jet Uh. Let's start, Well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the Jets, but why don't we
Speaker 1: start on the throne of ease. Actually a good place
Speaker 1: to start, because Julian Edelman a wise man. Julian Edelman
Speaker 1: is because he is not going anywhere. He signs a
Speaker 1: two year extension with the New England Patriots takes him
Speaker 1: through twenty nineteen. He had been DO three million in
Speaker 1: the final year of his contract. Highly team friendly considering
Speaker 1: his production um, but he's thirty one years old. Don't
Speaker 1: know the terms yet, Mark, unless you saw them somewhere,
Speaker 1: but Edelman sticking around the paths at least another couple
Speaker 1: of years everybody wins. Not sure of the terms yet,
Speaker 1: but absolutely a deserving player. Let me give you three names,
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, Odell Beckham, the only three players
Speaker 1: in the entire league that have averaged more receptions per
Speaker 1: game since than Edelman. I realized that Gronk is seen
Speaker 1: as the cornerstone of that offense, but considering how much
Speaker 1: of a wild card he is health wise, year after year,
Speaker 1: I feel like Edelman is the most important player to
Speaker 1: Tom Brady on that roster. Year after year, it's Tom
Speaker 1: Brady's favorite target. I mean, his Super Bowl catch alone
Speaker 1: deserves an extension. That catch was amazing, an amazing stroke
Speaker 1: of luck. If anything else, but he is the way
Speaker 1: he plays in the postseason for them. He always comes
Speaker 1: up strong. I feel like he's always there for a
Speaker 1: third down. He's always making that catch. People who want
Speaker 1: to be snarky and are doing it vapidly when they
Speaker 1: try to denounce the way the Patriots approached these things,
Speaker 1: namely those third contracts. The team that they're successful clearly
Speaker 1: are understand when to cut bait with a player. So
Speaker 1: I was a little surprised based on the firepower that
Speaker 1: the Patriots are gonna have with or without Edelman. What's
Speaker 1: curious is to try and speculate is let's say Gronk
Speaker 1: is all the way ready to go, and they have
Speaker 1: Dwayne Allen now, and they now have Brandon Cooks and
Speaker 1: here comes Malcolm Mitchell. I wonder how many touches Edelman
Speaker 1: is gonna get. He still ease the go to like
Speaker 1: you say, he gets like ten targets a game, it seems.
Speaker 1: So it'll be fascinating to see if this level of
Speaker 1: production continues in the maybe his targets will take a hit,
Speaker 1: but he has that mind meld with Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: whenever they're a big moment is going on. And let's
Speaker 1: face it, Gronk is not always on the field, and
Speaker 1: if gron is not available or Gronk is getting double covered,
Speaker 1: it's always Edelman who makes the big players we've seen
Speaker 1: time and time again. This is a great move. And
Speaker 1: I've said on this podcast a hundred times, especially with
Speaker 1: wide receivers, the guys that that hold out and they
Speaker 1: want the huge contracts, so they signed with some team
Speaker 1: that doesn't have a set quarterback or a team that
Speaker 1: has a nice set up and all of a sudden, yeah,
Speaker 1: you got more money early on, but then you get
Speaker 1: cut halfway into that deal, and then the deal you
Speaker 1: have to sign afterward, you end up losing money to
Speaker 1: go to a worse situation, to mess up your career.
Speaker 1: Just stay at the total abyss come January because you're
Speaker 1: stuck with more money on some team that's four and twelve.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Yes, the Patriots are the best team
Speaker 1: in the league. By New York Jets, there's a good
Speaker 1: chance they're going to be the worst team in the league.
Speaker 1: I'm coming hard on that purpose. I'm starting well, Dan
Speaker 1: with exactly with the way that they're operating. And it
Speaker 1: almost is the kind of thing you think does the
Speaker 1: NFL at some point say to the Jets organization, excuse
Speaker 1: me right now, it really is, it really is. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let you come sit over on this corner very soon.
Speaker 1: I'm starting to win me over. It's I mean, we'll
Speaker 1: see how Cleveland's rebuilt truly is going once games are played.
Speaker 1: But uh, the Jets this kind of bad timing for us.
Speaker 1: On Tuesday, David Harris got cut loose and what was
Speaker 1: could have been handled much better by the Jets. A
Speaker 1: couple of hours after that, Uh, Mike mccagnan mcagnet, the
Speaker 1: general manager, told reporters that Jets will either release or
Speaker 1: or trade Eric Decker. So now now we're in deep trouble.
Speaker 1: I mean, now we're well, we already were in deep trouble,
Speaker 1: but now it's gotten to the point where I said
Speaker 1: on Tuesday show that they considerably had cut ties with
Speaker 1: the five most important players on the team. UM last
Speaker 1: year this time Decker would be number six, maybe Nick
Speaker 1: Folk would be seven. All these guys are gone. They
Speaker 1: didn't make any big additions. Uh, And there was a
Speaker 1: tweet that UM moved the sticks. Daniel Jeremiah sent out
Speaker 1: yesterday that he talked to a I'm not going to
Speaker 1: be ignored a a f C scout or a talent
Speaker 1: evaluator sometimes who who believes that Jets might have the
Speaker 1: most talent poor roster in the last decade. So these
Speaker 1: are dark times, and you start to think that my
Speaker 1: fear that the Jets will somehow stumble into five or
Speaker 1: six wins, I don't see them sniffing anything like that.
Speaker 1: Number one and number two. I'm m I have a
Speaker 1: little bit of an oh and sixteen fear at this point,
Speaker 1: At this point in time, I don't want that, but
Speaker 1: I do want the number one pick. So be careful
Speaker 1: what you wish for, I guess is the lesson. Well,
Speaker 1: and by the way, let history let's today make sure
Speaker 1: we acknowledge that this trend did not start with the
Speaker 1: Seen Jets. It started with the Cleveland Browns. Hugh Jackson
Speaker 1: wore it. This is what we're gonna do. We're going
Speaker 1: down better days, lay ahead, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So it is now a pattern. Sessler to your point,
Speaker 1: or like the Sixers started in many NBA teams have
Speaker 1: done over the decades to do this. Is this the
Speaker 1: start of an ugly trend one and two? Is it inadvisable? Ultimately?
Speaker 1: Not really? I mean, aren't you willing to trade after years? Uh?
Speaker 1: In the muck and Meyer at the bottom of the
Speaker 1: a f C. East Hanzus aren't you willing to trade
Speaker 1: a year. I I don't know philosophically because I think
Speaker 1: it's more than a year. Even if you do get
Speaker 1: that quarterback of the next draft, this is a tear
Speaker 1: down and now you're essentially an expansion team. And when
Speaker 1: you've been around sixty years as a franchise, you're not
Speaker 1: supposed to ever get to this point where things are
Speaker 1: this dire. And it's just it's just the way it is.
Speaker 1: It's very sad and well, no, the one the one
Speaker 1: distinction I see and I and believe me, I think Dan,
Speaker 1: if you go through a bad year and you come
Speaker 1: out of it with the quarterback. That's someone said, someone say,
Speaker 1: some of these quarterbacks in the next draft come around
Speaker 1: once every ten years, fifteen years. That will be worth
Speaker 1: it for Jets fans long term if it pays out
Speaker 1: that you can't. I think Cleveland's in New York's in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: It's to some degree lucked into this. But it was
Speaker 1: also a focus that there was adding multiple draft picks
Speaker 1: over the next two or three years, and and the
Speaker 1: and the Jets have not that's the part that they
Speaker 1: don't have, so they have to they literally have to
Speaker 1: tank to get this quarterback. It is amazing that it's
Speaker 1: June and you have these two wide receivers now on
Speaker 1: the now just free agents. Basically, you have Jeremy Macklin
Speaker 1: and Eric Decker and you're looking at teams that well,
Speaker 1: who could really use some wide receivers And the Jets
Speaker 1: have Quincy and Noon one now and Robby Anderson like
Speaker 1: they're one of the teams that are most wide receiver
Speaker 1: poor and reached out to even Smith if you're doing yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all. That's the one weird thing. And and not
Speaker 1: as splashy a name or success or anything else, but
Speaker 1: hands juice. Now, as the Jets representative here, what would
Speaker 1: you like to see them do with QB? Do you
Speaker 1: go McCown? Do you go with the steady vet? That's
Speaker 1: a weird bank. You don't get rid of David Harris
Speaker 1: and you don't get rid of Eric Decker, who are
Speaker 1: respected veterans, uh, and then start a respected veteran a quarterback.
Speaker 1: You gotta go all in, I feel like, and the
Speaker 1: idea of selling the fan base on Josh McCown after
Speaker 1: you made these two moves is even harder to do so,
Speaker 1: and you know what I had to it was very important.
Speaker 1: After this latest stuff gate came down, I had to
Speaker 1: check in with my dad, Keith Hansash to see where
Speaker 1: he's at again. My dad likes to have fun on
Speaker 1: Sundays watching the Jets. He the idea of a total
Speaker 1: tear down. He's a savvy fan. He knows it's good
Speaker 1: to have better days ahead, but nobody wants to sit
Speaker 1: through two and fourteen. And that's what we're staring at.
Speaker 1: Let's who what Keith has to say? His name is Keith,
Speaker 1: his dad Dad, He'll doubt about it. He's a big
Speaker 1: Jets fan. Well is he going to Saill game to
Speaker 1: say what? Is he going to game to say? Yeah?
Speaker 1: This is Keith. They have the release of David Harris
Speaker 1: and the the upcoming release of Decker is just very
Speaker 1: disappointing to me as a Jet fan. Obviously, Cole Bowls
Speaker 1: has no Uh, he's not buying into this. I think
Speaker 1: they're hanging him out to dry unfortunately. Uh. And their
Speaker 1: trends of just cutting veterans just for the hell of it.
Speaker 1: It's just to me, it's the biggest thing that I
Speaker 1: see at is this is it's testing a fan base
Speaker 1: to the point of, you know, what are we doing here? Uh,
Speaker 1: we're trying to be the worst team in the league.
Speaker 1: I don't see anything positive on cutting some of these
Speaker 1: guys but right now. But anyway, very disappointing. Uh, I'm
Speaker 1: not happy with the GM. Mccagnet has not shown me
Speaker 1: anything and this could be the end of him. All right,
Speaker 1: they can't by alright. I feel like I know what
Speaker 1: it's like to be in trouble by Keith Hans, like
Speaker 1: just be lectured by him. This is like the same
Speaker 1: like sort of phone call he'd have with your mom, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know about like a math test you had, totally
Speaker 1: totally possible. Let's move on. Jeremy Macklin has left the
Speaker 1: Ravens without a deal following a surprise release by the
Speaker 1: Chiefs on Friday. A lot of people connected the dots
Speaker 1: there because of Marty Moore and wigg and they're shared
Speaker 1: DNA and shared history, but that didn't happen. I wonder,
Speaker 1: by the way, if Eric Decker, his sudden arrival on
Speaker 1: the market or soon arrival on the market, is why
Speaker 1: the Ravens are pausing here, because he might even be
Speaker 1: a better fit there. Decker can help a team, By
Speaker 1: the way, I don't really get into that, but Decker,
Speaker 1: if he's healthy the hip and the shoulder. Um, he
Speaker 1: was an absolute stud uh in two thousand fifth team
Speaker 1: and he's only thirty years old though too it wasn't
Speaker 1: that his big year. Yeah, I got. I mean they're
Speaker 1: both solid options that pop up on the market at
Speaker 1: this time, that's for sure. And in other Ravens New
Speaker 1: we're in the Ravens Nest by the r Yes, every
Speaker 1: time I hear a crow, I think of that endlessly
Speaker 1: in this nest and in the Ravens Nest a lot lately.
Speaker 1: And you cannot complain. We got a lot of complaints
Speaker 1: and rains can check that. We don't go talk Ravens enough.
Speaker 1: And it's like an every show thing. Though I'm I,
Speaker 1: I my my listeners go one step further. I hate
Speaker 1: every team, including and in other Ravens is Dennis Pitta
Speaker 1: was released by the team. So uh, if you had
Speaker 1: any hope that maybe that was not such a serious injury,
Speaker 1: it's just as bad as team the team had feared. Uh.
Speaker 1: He has been released by the team. Uh so they
Speaker 1: needed a roster sp spot and now he gets the
Speaker 1: side on his future. Um, he's made crazy though that
Speaker 1: you think about what you know. It's very easy in
Speaker 1: June to look at a roster by itself in a vacuum.
Speaker 1: Very few teams, the Jets notwithstanding, most teams, you would say, well,
Speaker 1: this is that team's here. When you look at the
Speaker 1: roster in the additions, you feel like, oh, this team's
Speaker 1: well positioned. But really there are We talk about the Patriots,
Speaker 1: the Steelers, the Bengals, the Raiders have this overwhelming firepower
Speaker 1: on offense, and then you look at these other teams
Speaker 1: that just can never seem to land a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the Rams as a for instance, off
Speaker 1: the top of my head, why are they not falling
Speaker 1: all over themselves to get If you're the Rams, right,
Speaker 1: why would you not be chasing Decker and mac Well there,
Speaker 1: like Mike Garrifolo reported, when it came when it comes
Speaker 1: to Maclin, around maybe even five teams would be chasing Maclin.
Speaker 1: And we know of a couple of them because they've
Speaker 1: already had meetings, but we don't know who the others are.
Speaker 1: You like to think it would be the Rims, because
Speaker 1: what are you telling your fans? Here's the difference points,
Speaker 1: that's the exact opposite of its opposite. Here's the one thing, though,
Speaker 1: is that you look back at that coaching staff, they
Speaker 1: could not develop all those draft picks they had at
Speaker 1: wide receiver, any of them from Tavon, Austin down. Maybe
Speaker 1: there's some hope with the new coaching staff that the offense,
Speaker 1: Sean mcvage, the receivers will be a little bit better.
Speaker 1: One quick thing on Baltimore. If they somehow don't land
Speaker 1: Decker or Macklin, that is an offseason disaster scenario because
Speaker 1: they have nothing at this position. That's why we've been
Speaker 1: in the Ravens nest half the time. You can talk
Speaker 1: about that this has fallen into your lap. You have
Speaker 1: to make it happy. You have Mike Wallace and Brashad Perriman.
Speaker 1: That's there. Yeah. In a division, I always, I always
Speaker 1: like the philosophy of ziggen when the rest of the
Speaker 1: division is zagging. But like I say, since and Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: are now officially loaded offensively, how are they as much
Speaker 1: as they've improved their defense in Baltimore, how are they
Speaker 1: really gonna ultimately keep up and score enough points against
Speaker 1: those division I tell you, I'll tell you how. His
Speaker 1: name is Justin Tucker. Everybody you get I'm telling you
Speaker 1: you get on the other side of the field between
Speaker 1: the forty, I'm not gonna put it. Get to midfield,
Speaker 1: get right at midfield, even get to your own forty.
Speaker 1: He'll put it through the road. Your love role. Last show,
Speaker 1: he needed nine field goals a game. Now it's defend
Speaker 1: that keeps getting more bleak, And I'm you know that's this.
Speaker 1: Has any team actually featured their field goal kicker before
Speaker 1: as the focal point of their offense? No? No, But
Speaker 1: if the Ravens do it and he kicks ten of game,
Speaker 1: that's thirty. Maybe. A couple of years ago, Cleveland signed
Speaker 1: Andy Lee as the center pietas piece of their offensive
Speaker 1: punter who was traded. I'll do you one further theirs.
Speaker 1: I think that Justin Tucker is contributing to a real
Speaker 1: problem and ongoing one in pro football football in general.
Speaker 1: The framers of the sport never intended to have guys
Speaker 1: run out of the field and make fifty plush yards
Speaker 1: with any regular I mean, you know, in in nine
Speaker 1: sixty Paul Horning was the kicker for the Packers and
Speaker 1: made about one third of his field goal attempts. Pat
Speaker 1: some are all forced overtime in the fifty eight Championship,
Speaker 1: pat Some are all did that. You know you you
Speaker 1: ran out one of your position players to do the
Speaker 1: head on kicking and maybe they could make a thirty
Speaker 1: five yard or about half the time. The game is
Speaker 1: warped as a result of these guys who don't do
Speaker 1: anything first for fifty eight point uh uh six, fifty
Speaker 1: eight point five minutes of the game, they've trod out
Speaker 1: and they're the ones deciding the game. But Brian Baldinger,
Speaker 1: not hyperbolically, says Justin Tucker is the greatest kicker of
Speaker 1: all time. I'm inclined to agree. By the way, on
Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin, I would not be surprised if he does
Speaker 1: end up in Buffalo, just with the Sean McDermott and
Speaker 1: Andy Reid connection. I know that those two had talked
Speaker 1: and that was Sean McDermott's coaching mentor back when he
Speaker 1: was in Philadelphia. And you have Shawn McCoy on the team.
Speaker 1: McCoy and Macklin were boys in Philly, and I know
Speaker 1: that he's been actively recruiting him as well, so that
Speaker 1: would not surprise. He's just been married. You have to
Speaker 1: try to explain to your wife we're moving, you know,
Speaker 1: to Baltimore where it's about four degrees for five months
Speaker 1: out of the year. Yeah. Good point, But I saw
Speaker 1: you trying to move things away from I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going back into the kicker folk. Two men enter,
Speaker 1: what man lives? Very exciting. It's like the ad campaign
Speaker 1: for a horrible blockbuster movie. Moving on, the Titans have
Speaker 1: some issues, some minor issues. Uh injuries though. Running back
Speaker 1: to Marco Murray and second year wide receiver Taj Sharp. Uh,
Speaker 1: Murray recently underwent a hand procedure on a minor nagging injury.
Speaker 1: According to Uh, the Titans um and he's in a cast.
Speaker 1: He'll be fine for training camp or being told and
Speaker 1: Taj Sharp, what's going on? Mark? You wrote this banger?
Speaker 1: He's got something going on with this. Yeah, he had
Speaker 1: a Yeah, he had a minor surgery, one of a
Speaker 1: minor bedia surgery and two words, who cares? They're both
Speaker 1: going to be fined by training camp. According to the coach,
Speaker 1: the desks asked me to write this night, and I
Speaker 1: didn't want to put up a fight because I had
Speaker 1: I've been very unproductive today at work in general, so
Speaker 1: I said, I will do this. It is news on
Speaker 1: some level, but I mean they're gonna be fined by
Speaker 1: late July. The DeMarco Murray injury. It was his ring finger.
Speaker 1: It happened week two of last season, and he's just
Speaker 1: now opting to have surgery. I guess because he thought
Speaker 1: it was going to heal and it just didn't the
Speaker 1: way that he wanted it to. Sot it done, Let's
Speaker 1: keep moving. Trop Alert, troupe Alert, trop Alert. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: getting her run back there. I have ever thought about
Speaker 1: your long term plans in this company? Yeah? She has.
Speaker 1: I know she has. What are they Dave? She wants
Speaker 1: to make like like Odell Beckham and the Giants are
Speaker 1: currently talking about. She wants to you know, she wants
Speaker 1: to wear one uniform for her entire career, wearing that
Speaker 1: d d FP across the shop. I asked how much
Speaker 1: she like you mentioned, she listens to every show of
Speaker 1: every single show. I asked her before the show who
Speaker 1: her favorite member of the show was, and she provided
Speaker 1: the correct answer. She did, I said it was Mark, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, points being scored all over the left.
Speaker 1: I asked Sydney who favorite h a t n or
Speaker 1: was too and I don't want to tell, but I
Speaker 1: did ask her and she did. In fact, did she
Speaker 1: really really what? You have to save it for the
Speaker 1: Sydney Reveal podcast? Um, that was smart and I know
Speaker 1: why Emma did it, because she is cunning and she
Speaker 1: believes it. Mark does does occasionally bump heads with all
Speaker 1: of our producers and as a every show listener, Emma
Speaker 1: knows how to play the like how hands and diffuses
Speaker 1: the compliment quickly. Like the reason she did it. She
Speaker 1: had to say that he's like I was gonna cry
Speaker 1: on Emma. Emma is an honest person that I can
Speaker 1: tell right off the bat. She gave an honest answer.
Speaker 1: Sort the subject ends. It ends right there. Uh, let's
Speaker 1: bring back the troupe alert. Let's get back on track.
Speaker 1: Here his arm looks quote stronger than ever according to Bruce.
Speaker 1: The other story I wrote today some bangers today thirty
Speaker 1: seven years old. Probably not true. I'm just gonna say
Speaker 1: at thirty seven his arm is probably stronger. Well, all right,
Speaker 1: here was the explanation that starting last year, remember he
Speaker 1: played very well down the stretch, they started giving him
Speaker 1: that veteran quarterback Wednesday off and that it ateed his arm,
Speaker 1: and then and then they basically did not have him
Speaker 1: throw in all of March and April. And we're in
Speaker 1: the early o t a s and they're saying that
Speaker 1: now he said something, he's dropping fifty five yard dimes
Speaker 1: in a bucket downfield, so it's stronger now, okay, whatever?
Speaker 1: More Trobe alerts Saints running back Adrian Peterson wants to
Speaker 1: play until he's thirty seven. Comma eighth, Colleen, that's nice,
Speaker 1: but will the NFL have him? It took him a
Speaker 1: long time to get a job at age thirty two. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't know like what exactly he's going to be
Speaker 1: able to do this year in New Orleans, but I
Speaker 1: feel like this maybe his last year. I don't know
Speaker 1: about that, but wha Yeah, I'm just gonna would literally
Speaker 1: bite your head office. The willingness to to promote and
Speaker 1: embrace Adrian Peterson and the abject rejection of other guys
Speaker 1: in the league for their off the field behavior confuses
Speaker 1: me at best. And I'll leave it at that. Thirty eight.
Speaker 1: This is this is one of the great heroes in
Speaker 1: pro football. What I disagree? Why also? Are there three? Now? Pious?
Speaker 1: Just a little bit, and that's pious the not I mean,
Speaker 1: if nothing else, it's inconsistent. Right, Adrian Peterson is the
Speaker 1: face of all that's good. Other guys aren't in the league.
Speaker 1: And then he would agree, why are the three or
Speaker 1: four or five six stories like this every single off
Speaker 1: season about player X ones to play until age late thirties?
Speaker 1: Something enough? Well, it's also like really tough for a
Speaker 1: running back to sustain that long at a high level
Speaker 1: into like thirty seven, thirty eight years old. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're taking a beating when you're out there. And finally
Speaker 1: in the news, a weird trend in the NFL this week.
Speaker 1: It started with a Divon House, the defensive back for
Speaker 1: the Packers, who missed his connecting flight in Minnesota. So
Speaker 1: he sent out a tweet asking if there were any
Speaker 1: Packer fans making the ride from Minnesota down to Green Bay,
Speaker 1: and sure enough, two brothers picked him up and drove
Speaker 1: him uh to uh to Title Town. That was an
Speaker 1: interesting story, but poor poor Mr. House, he only got
Speaker 1: two days. Where in the crown is the player with
Speaker 1: the best road trips story this offseason? Because here comes
Speaker 1: Mark Cherie Wright, Uh, the Bill's cornerback who missed a
Speaker 1: connecting flight, this time in Chicago. These connecting flights. So
Speaker 1: what does he do? He calls an uber. The uber
Speaker 1: driver UH comes to pick him up. He thought he
Speaker 1: was asking for a ride to Buffalo Wild Wings, but
Speaker 1: then he kept his already said I came to pick
Speaker 1: you up. I will take you there, And he drove
Speaker 1: the man from Chicago to Buffalo, five hour trip. It
Speaker 1: cost um over six of dollars and then right fairly
Speaker 1: pumped him up with a three D tip for for
Speaker 1: all his um his effort, and he made it two
Speaker 1: bill's practice two minutes before it started. Though that that
Speaker 1: we know the tip amount, but what would be the
Speaker 1: fair from I believe about it was I believe six
Speaker 1: thirty two something in that range. Tipped them more actually right,
Speaker 1: a lot of time time to drive back. That's what
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask if you're an uber driver. Two
Speaker 1: little issues with this story. It's a very nice story,
Speaker 1: but when when you when you when you take an uber,
Speaker 1: you have to very clearly provide the address where you're
Speaker 1: going so that the drivers can lobby amongst each other
Speaker 1: to say he was gonna take you. So unless there
Speaker 1: was an incredible spelling mistake or something. Buffalo Wild Wings
Speaker 1: would not seem to know. They don't know where you're
Speaker 1: going until you get in the car and they start
Speaker 1: the trip. Now, you can program it, and I thought
Speaker 1: start drivers can't. I mean, I always say, here's where
Speaker 1: I'm going, and then they so they so you get
Speaker 1: in and he's going to see when when he gets
Speaker 1: in the car, though, if he's Buffalo wild Wings, when
Speaker 1: when he looks it up, he's gonna see a blue
Speaker 1: line that goes to upstairs sent you know, Western New York.
Speaker 1: That's gonna throw you off. And then he might have
Speaker 1: just seen because it was such a strange request that
Speaker 1: you might have just seen Buffalo and he's probably made
Speaker 1: that drive a dozen times and and just wasn't looking
Speaker 1: quite just fair enough. But then, as the life of
Speaker 1: an uber driver is your, you asked him how far
Speaker 1: I got? I go up to West Hollywood or I'll
Speaker 1: maybe go out to Pasadena and back, But like, how
Speaker 1: are you winding your way back from from Buffalo to Chicago.
Speaker 1: You don't have any guarantee of picking people up and
Speaker 1: taking them two hundred more miles. That happens once in
Speaker 1: your career. Yeah, Sessler, you get to choose one NFL
Speaker 1: player to drive your the Uber driver across the country.
Speaker 1: Who would you most want it to be? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you there's an NFL or who do you
Speaker 1: hope opens that back door and jumps in? It has
Speaker 1: to be a player. Could it be a coach? Let's
Speaker 1: say it's a coach if if you want fun answer,
Speaker 1: I think Wade Phillips would be fun guy. Bruce Arians, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's I like that very much. I don't really, I
Speaker 1: can't think of too many players that I want. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe Tom Brady. I know Dan like that, but down
Speaker 1: he's Yeah, he would ask for privacy after you ask
Speaker 1: him two questions. Then you'd have to ride in sile
Speaker 1: once for the room. That's a great answer by Colleen.
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas. John Thomas has he emerged into quite a
Speaker 1: fun seeming guy. That's a great answer. Is a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. He'll let you know too. You get to
Speaker 1: go And she came up with I'm with hands. So
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that about Joe Thomas. But there's some
Speaker 1: people out there in the league that'd like to let
Speaker 1: you know how funny they are. It's usually a red
Speaker 1: flag for how funny they actually are, and they want
Speaker 1: to let you know. I don't think he's propping himself
Speaker 1: up as some sort of stand up another him. He's
Speaker 1: not in the league anymore. But Pat McAfee, Yeah, well
Speaker 1: I'm totally different. Popular answer Pat McAfee Number one, I'll
Speaker 1: take a pass. I'll take Malcolm Jenkins by the way,
Speaker 1: right now? Is that the best answer? M v P. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's really funny. I like Cliff averri Old though, Cliff
Speaker 1: a bro. You know you can listen to if you
Speaker 1: dig up an old podcast called Dave Damage Football Program,
Speaker 1: you can find. Oh, by the way, can I promote
Speaker 1: that hand? Do it? We? And in the most recent
Speaker 1: episode of d DFP Ladies Night, k Adam, Cynthia Freeland
Speaker 1: and one Colleen Wolf surrounding Damage. I've never been so
Speaker 1: nervous in all my life. We took a lovely picture
Speaker 1: together that's been tweeted out all over. Very awkward shot,
Speaker 1: like the most awkward that's ever happened. Um, that's what's
Speaker 1: happening in the news. Yes, make sure you check out
Speaker 1: d DFP, but you might be new to the show.
Speaker 1: This show and you don't know. That's where Zeussa and
Speaker 1: Sizzler got our starts back end of the d DFP
Speaker 1: little eight minute I think it most had stretched to
Speaker 1: about thirteen minutes, probably to the annoyance of many listeners.
Speaker 1: Maybe if I can bury that, Yeah, if I bury
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Speaker 1: moving on. They helped me just right in all the
Speaker 1: places I needed it. Oh, so this is this, this
Speaker 1: stem from a conversation. By the way, is damas X
Speaker 1: impression of Dan that he'll do throughout the office. It is,
Speaker 1: I mean, I always enjoy it. And it is starting
Speaker 1: to edge heavily into Andrew dice clay territory. Now or
Speaker 1: there's almost no difference. I think it's to go up
Speaker 1: to who the the extra layer of insult with my
Speaker 1: impressions is or people seem to take into I'm a
Speaker 1: terrible impressionist. You see, I tormented our palhands Hank at
Speaker 1: the baseball game. This this took on an edge at
Speaker 1: some point by talking like him for the vast majority, well,
Speaker 1: he would say it was not like him. You would
Speaker 1: say it was like him. Don't play it, war boy.
Speaker 1: There was I don't know. And if if you are
Speaker 1: a listener to both our show and the Dave Damage
Speaker 1: Football program, maybe this is something that pops up, but
Speaker 1: it was behind the scenes. Actually, I have an exclusive here.
Speaker 1: This is a a t N media side are exclusive
Speaker 1: which I gotta have a dolphin in there. This much
Speaker 1: hyped show that Dave did with three women of the
Speaker 1: NFL media landscape came at the expense of one Henry Hutson,
Speaker 1: who came to the studio believing he was on the show,
Speaker 1: only to be sent away the disrespect of a principal
Speaker 1: cast member. How do you answer to that? Again, triple sourced,
Speaker 1: always triple sourced. How do you answer to that? Dave
Speaker 1: Damashick well, you know, I uh, it came together on
Speaker 1: Monday that that k Adams. I didn't know she was
Speaker 1: in town, of course, one of our favorites. We had
Speaker 1: a magical podcast with her and Kyle Brant in Philadelphia
Speaker 1: around the draft, and when I saw that she was around,
Speaker 1: I immediately said, well, we must have you back on
Speaker 1: the show. A s a amp she read. And then
Speaker 1: towards the end of the night, Kay said are you
Speaker 1: gonna be in there? To Colleen and she said, oh,
Speaker 1: I'd love that, And then it was Colleen said that
Speaker 1: are you saying that? I just like jumped in. Okay,
Speaker 1: I said, oh, that'd be awesome. And then Cynthia Freeland
Speaker 1: heard that and said, wait, you're having Colleen and Kay
Speaker 1: in what about me? And I said, well that's fair,
Speaker 1: let's do that. And then of course there are only
Speaker 1: four seats, so what else we're gonna do? Wait a second,
Speaker 1: wait a second, many times, and Colleen you could vouch
Speaker 1: for this. We have had five seats in here, and
Speaker 1: we sometimes will put somebody behind the glass that's the
Speaker 1: handsome batter than that, though he deserves better than I
Speaker 1: think a fifth wheel. He wouldn't know why, but you
Speaker 1: just sent him away. I actually didn't. I had no
Speaker 1: idea of any of this until the show had come
Speaker 1: and gone, and then I ran into Handsome and he said,
Speaker 1: oh whoa little David Sunday's Margaret. Did you have a
Speaker 1: good time with the ladies? You know? I was bumped.
Speaker 1: I was bumped. That was the most u less suit.
Speaker 1: Three ladies and kick me to the cab. That was
Speaker 1: the most odious aspect of it, though, that you never
Speaker 1: even had showed him the respect to tell him that
Speaker 1: he wasn't going to be on the show at all.
Speaker 1: I didn't even get it. He was booked, They're not.
Speaker 1: I had to do that for him, Dan. I felt
Speaker 1: really bad, and you know, not for a nothing, but
Speaker 1: you know, people disappear from check show, you know after
Speaker 1: a while. Sometimes is Henry the next guy to go?
Speaker 1: You gotta wonder, how is that's the spinning forward? That's
Speaker 1: the spins true? And weird? Is weird? Does it end
Speaker 1: with the non invites? How does Judy Batista? How does
Speaker 1: Amber the O'Hara's been going on and on with people
Speaker 1: that were not part of this this episode incredible female journalists,
Speaker 1: that was how many were filled. Let's move on very interesting.
Speaker 1: Put it that way. Put it that way, does it great?
Speaker 1: Had Amber the o' harris on before we've had Lindsay Rhodes.
Speaker 1: You know, we're doing all right, We're having all right
Speaker 1: with our gang. Let's talk about But by the way,
Speaker 1: there is a report out there. I should also add,
Speaker 1: since we just talked about it, Bert Brewer, who used
Speaker 1: to work with us now he works over with Peter
Speaker 1: King sites a source that the Jets have had trade
Speaker 1: talks with the Ravens and others on Eric Decker. Decker
Speaker 1: remains on the rosters the yes, tracking that situation. All right, now,
Speaker 1: let's talk about this. Now. We are in the you know,
Speaker 1: we're about to go into the true dark period of
Speaker 1: the NFL offseason after many camps wrap up. Um. But
Speaker 1: through this point there are now teams that are have
Speaker 1: established themselves as the quote unquote buzzy teams, you know,
Speaker 1: a little buzz on on them heading into the teams
Speaker 1: that a lot of the pundits seemed to be on
Speaker 1: the same page are on the rise. Conversely, there are
Speaker 1: the teams that are either getting no buzz at all
Speaker 1: um or are being spoken of in a really disparaging
Speaker 1: way as a team teams that should be completely overlooked
Speaker 1: this season. Now, the one thing we know we learned
Speaker 1: from following this game is that the pundits are usually
Speaker 1: wrong on multiple things this time year, us included. And
Speaker 1: there's always the teams that everybody thinks they're gonna be good.
Speaker 1: There's always gonna be some that that fall and they falter,
Speaker 1: and the teams that are gonna be bad turn out
Speaker 1: there's a couple of teams that are either competitive or
Speaker 1: out right good. It happens every year. So let's talk
Speaker 1: about teams that we think, uh mark and we'll start
Speaker 1: with you, one way or the other. A team that's
Speaker 1: gonna surprise the football gagna Centi. Well, this team was
Speaker 1: last year's offseason Darling, and it's it's to some degree
Speaker 1: a little less so this time around because people, I think,
Speaker 1: feel burned. But if you do, if you do go
Speaker 1: read about defense is offense is ready to jump up
Speaker 1: and jump out. The Jaguars still getting mentioned, and you
Speaker 1: look at their defensive roster and maybe there is a
Speaker 1: reason for that. You've got Dante Fowler, You've got Malik Jackson,
Speaker 1: Telvin Smith, you added a j Bouye, you got Jalen Ramsey,
Speaker 1: who I think is a future all pro Elias Campbell.
Speaker 1: So the pieces are there, but a you also have
Speaker 1: the Blake Boardle situation, and until we have heavy any
Speaker 1: evidence that he's improved on any level from last year,
Speaker 1: don't try to convince me that a quarterback less team
Speaker 1: is going to make some giant leap. And secondly, when
Speaker 1: we saw what the Falcons did two seasons ago, where
Speaker 1: they got out of the gate real hot and then
Speaker 1: it fell apart, the DNA was there for a team
Speaker 1: that showed it could put together long wind streaks. For me,
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars, I get the Tom Coughlins, so that
Speaker 1: they're gonna be tough, they're gonna be on time. That's
Speaker 1: all very nice, but you have to show something. I
Speaker 1: think in the previous season a lot of these players
Speaker 1: were on Jacksonville's roster. Last year, nothing came together at all.
Speaker 1: I I don't really believe that a team like jackson
Speaker 1: was gonna suddenly go from three wins to ten, eleven
Speaker 1: or twelve and become this playoff heavy. I don't even
Speaker 1: see them above the Titans on any level. The Titans
Speaker 1: are a much more appealing team to me, so Jacksonville
Speaker 1: to me still, if there's buzz around them, and there is,
Speaker 1: I don't buy it. Not yet good rule of thumb,
Speaker 1: as you point out, when all the football universe is
Speaker 1: jumping on a bandwagon of a team that's never done
Speaker 1: anything like they did with the Jags, kick it down
Speaker 1: the road by one year, the Jags, I disagree with you,
Speaker 1: will in fact rise up. They will pay off some
Speaker 1: of some of the optimism that we've been hearing out
Speaker 1: there that division is rugged. Think about that. I think
Speaker 1: they you know, they get up near eight nine wins
Speaker 1: sort of what I mean, it's competitive, not not not
Speaker 1: I don't mean physically rugged necessarily, but I do think
Speaker 1: that you have potentially, if you think about it, the
Speaker 1: Texans have one of and maybe even by years and
Speaker 1: the best defense of J. J. Watt can fully bounce back.
Speaker 1: That defense is gonna be Dino Might. And now the Jags,
Speaker 1: as you say, Sessler, at all three levels are loaded.
Speaker 1: The only question with the Jags at this point is
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles and a shoddy offensive line. Not something to
Speaker 1: sleep on, but you would imagine the way Tom Coughlin
Speaker 1: and everybody keeps pointing out, you know, he's not the
Speaker 1: head coach. He's not. Yeah, well he's in there and
Speaker 1: he's over the head coach. You think he's not going
Speaker 1: to impart some knowledge and apply what he did with
Speaker 1: a young Eli Manning to a young Blake Bortles, namely somehow.
Speaker 1: I don't know it's simplistic to say he'll be able
Speaker 1: to get in the kids ear and and uh control
Speaker 1: some of the more errand throws. But I do think
Speaker 1: he has a track record for that, and the philosophy
Speaker 1: will be grind him on the ground and play style
Speaker 1: defense and dominate. Watch out for the Jags rising up
Speaker 1: a little bit here. I was completely with Sessler on
Speaker 1: the Jags because the thing with the Jags is like, yes,
Speaker 1: that's great that Tom Coughlin is there, and it will
Speaker 1: lend itself to be them being a little more rugged
Speaker 1: of a team and a little bit tougher. But the
Speaker 1: biggest problem with that team is the quarterback. And it's
Speaker 1: still Blake Bortles going into this year, and that doesn't
Speaker 1: give me any confidence in the team at all. Like,
Speaker 1: maybe they can run the ball and maybe they can
Speaker 1: cover up some of his deficiencies, but he did not
Speaker 1: His footwar did not look good. There were so many
Speaker 1: things that went wrong for him last year that I
Speaker 1: can't buy into it. If it, you know, for all
Speaker 1: the tropes that we hear in the spring, if those
Speaker 1: don't prove themselves to be true by midway through August.
Speaker 1: There are some names out there you might have heard
Speaker 1: about Colin Kaepernick that would be I mean you, at
Speaker 1: some point, if you're Coughlin, if you're the coaching staff,
Speaker 1: you owe it to the rest of the roster, to
Speaker 1: Calais Campbell, who uh left a nice situation to come
Speaker 1: out there and beyond. You owe it to those guys
Speaker 1: to try and put a winning team out there. And
Speaker 1: if Bordles ain't ready to go, they'll I imagine that happened.
Speaker 1: In fact, though, the team that will not be as good,
Speaker 1: that will not meet the expectations that the football universe
Speaker 1: seems to have for them is the aforementioned Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: Mike Mularkey. Mike mclarkey. His high water mark is UH
Speaker 1: is nine and seven his first year in Buffalo and
Speaker 1: nine and seven last year um in Tennessee. He is
Speaker 1: not a winning NFL football coach. The idea that because
Speaker 1: well now he will be able to be able to
Speaker 1: integrate the pass catching weapons that they've added to their
Speaker 1: ground and pound style. Is is a little bit of
Speaker 1: a reach for me in the division that includes the Texans,
Speaker 1: a resurge in Andrew Luck in the aforementioned Jaguars. See
Speaker 1: the difference from me with with when it comes to Malarkey.
Speaker 1: You've got Marcus Mariota, he can stay healthy, everything, all
Speaker 1: the concerns we just mentioned over Blake Bortles. It is
Speaker 1: the complete opposite with Mariota and adding Corey Davis. I
Speaker 1: think Corey Davis will be an absolute star this this
Speaker 1: season and next. It's gonna take a little bit of
Speaker 1: time maybe, but that was the right weapon to ask.
Speaker 1: And I think you've got Dick lebo On defense, you
Speaker 1: have an actual defensive backfield now, I logan Ryan is
Speaker 1: going to be fantastic, and Dorriy Jackson they talked about,
Speaker 1: is like one of the most athletic cornerbacks drafted in
Speaker 1: a while. There's there's pieces on defense. There is a
Speaker 1: little bit of deja vu here too, because this was
Speaker 1: the same conversation everyone had last year and by October
Speaker 1: they were spinning their wheels before Mariota put it together.
Speaker 1: And the other thing to the Malarkey point. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: he got a lot of credit last year, and I
Speaker 1: think he deserves a little bit under the doubt coming
Speaker 1: off that. But when they hired and everybody thought it
Speaker 1: was a terrible higher and he had never had any
Speaker 1: sustained success in the NFL, he does still have something
Speaker 1: to prove that he can now take a team not
Speaker 1: just being acute almost their team, but getting into the
Speaker 1: playoffs and make some noise. Well we haven't even mentioned
Speaker 1: their offensive line either. I think the Titans offensive line
Speaker 1: might actually be better than the Cowboys offensive line. They
Speaker 1: have five starters that and not one week spot on
Speaker 1: that line. Jack Conklin was awesome and he was a
Speaker 1: rookie last year, and then you have Tyler Luan on
Speaker 1: the other side. They're both strong in pass protection and
Speaker 1: run blocking. I think they are fund John Robinson has
Speaker 1: done more than any GM in the a f C
Speaker 1: arguably over the last two years to change that team.
Speaker 1: They were a train wreck before Malarkey took over. They
Speaker 1: were an absolute train wreck. They changed their identity and
Speaker 1: I just think listen, they they've started to prove it.
Speaker 1: They won nine games last year. That to me is like,
Speaker 1: that's the building block, that's the season that says you
Speaker 1: can and win games. And the quarterback has to stay healthy,
Speaker 1: well two years, two big injuries, he needs to stay
Speaker 1: healthy or everything kind of goes by the boards because
Speaker 1: we see, you know, they can't get it done without
Speaker 1: great respect for the Hall of Famer Dick lebou. But
Speaker 1: the idea again, so you're talking about bringing in two
Speaker 1: fresh corners to play in what he the way he
Speaker 1: schemes things. Look at guys do not walk in and
Speaker 1: immediately play effectively in Dickie Lebow's uh in in his scheme.
Speaker 1: They just don't that that they pride themselves. Dick Lebo
Speaker 1: has this weird pride that that um seems to ignore
Speaker 1: the free agency period, that you only have a three
Speaker 1: or four year, five year window with these kids when
Speaker 1: they walk in the door. No, no, no, it takes
Speaker 1: it takes a couple of years to get used to
Speaker 1: the system we're running here. Well, is that really a
Speaker 1: great strategy. You don't want to make it easy on
Speaker 1: these kids. Not. The idea that the Dorry Jackson walks
Speaker 1: in is immediately a dominant corner for them is uh
Speaker 1: is overly optimistic in my opinion, I'll throw another team
Speaker 1: in the mix talented as the kid Um. Although the
Speaker 1: new GM is getting a lot of hype and and
Speaker 1: and a lot of people are congratulating him on on
Speaker 1: a nice early run. Uh in in John Lynch, I
Speaker 1: am interested in the forty Niners, a team that I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't listen. I don't think they are
Speaker 1: a super Bowl contender at this point, but I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people are under the impression that, you know,
Speaker 1: they they'll be better than last year, but there'll still
Speaker 1: be a total Also, Ran, I think Kyle Shanahan's was
Speaker 1: a huge higher considering how down everyone was, especially in
Speaker 1: the Bay Area, but nationally as well, how down everyone
Speaker 1: was on ownership UH and York family up there, that
Speaker 1: they were able to get Kyle Shanahan and then this Lynch,
Speaker 1: the Lynch hiring, which we'll see how it plays out,
Speaker 1: but so far, so good. Did they maybe actually hit
Speaker 1: a home run in this whole reboot that which is
Speaker 1: the dream for every team that's trying to start from zero.
Speaker 1: And I think Shanhon's another good example of a guy
Speaker 1: that he's now jumping into the head coaching position at
Speaker 1: the right time. Sometimes these guys get like the offense
Speaker 1: coordinator up in New England, Josh McDaniels, really get it
Speaker 1: too soon. I think he's bounced around a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think this is the time. I think Brian Hoyer
Speaker 1: is a guy to watch well this year. I think
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer is going to have a nice season with
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. And people are gonna act crazy like shocked
Speaker 1: by it, but I will be surprised at all. Here's
Speaker 1: why we shouldn't all right do it. I don't think
Speaker 1: we should be totally shocked if it does, if they
Speaker 1: if they overachieve, because you look back that the last
Speaker 1: time Hoyer and Shanahan were paired together was in Cleveland
Speaker 1: and they started the season six and three. People forget
Speaker 1: about that early year, that early success they had that season,
Speaker 1: but they dominated the Steelers in one game, and it
Speaker 1: was all about Shanahan scheming maximized Brian Hoyer for as
Speaker 1: long as he could until the whole thing fell apart.
Speaker 1: They lost Alex Mack, the offensive line went to went
Speaker 1: and then at that point you had nothing. But here's
Speaker 1: the deal, here's the deal. Carlos Hyde, I think it
Speaker 1: could be very successful in that office. He's an excellent
Speaker 1: coach with running backs, defensive line. You got the Forest Buckner,
Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas, the first round pick, Eric Armstead, you just
Speaker 1: signed Elvis Dooomerville. There are pieces in place to just
Speaker 1: suddenly map them out for a two and fourteen season.
Speaker 1: Is is a little lazy. I uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: I don't agree with you about Brian Hoyer necessarily, although
Speaker 1: that's a great uh call on on what Hoyer did
Speaker 1: with those Browns a few years back. To me, the
Speaker 1: irony is, listen, I think you can, you know, really
Speaker 1: almost flirt with the playoffs if things break right within
Speaker 1: your division and out if you have they have the
Speaker 1: makings of a really dominant defense there, which is how
Speaker 1: they got to where they were about six years ago.
Speaker 1: To me, the irony is, and I bet you if
Speaker 1: you hooked up uh Kyle Shayanahan and John Lynch to
Speaker 1: a lie detector, they would they would both say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish we still had Colin Kaepernick. That would really be,
Speaker 1: that would really be what would they could have. I
Speaker 1: don't think I don't think you politicially could walk I
Speaker 1: don't think you could walk into into Jed York and
Speaker 1: and company and say, hey, guess what we're doing. We're
Speaker 1: bringing seven back. Yeah, it's one of the get away
Speaker 1: of that one. I don't know, he's got a lot
Speaker 1: of rope right now. But you're right about Carlos Hide,
Speaker 1: the most undervalued high end talent at running back in
Speaker 1: all the NFL. And they throw in Joe Williams out
Speaker 1: of Utah. Now they have a little bit of what
Speaker 1: the Falcons had going last year with the with the
Speaker 1: tandem backfield. Conny, you got one for us, um Well.
Speaker 1: I originally was going with the Jags. Okay, does anybody
Speaker 1: else want to throw someone? I'll throw out one. I
Speaker 1: think is gonna be better again. Not a playoff team,
Speaker 1: but I I think the Chicago Bears actually have a
Speaker 1: chance to do. I think they I think they did
Speaker 1: themselves no favors pr wise in the locker room and
Speaker 1: beyond with their first round pick. But I think Mike
Speaker 1: Glennon ends up with the gig. I think he'll he'll
Speaker 1: be there and that listen, that offensive line was destroyed
Speaker 1: last year. What they can do and and you saw
Speaker 1: what Jordan Howard did as a rookie. Now add back
Speaker 1: those high end pieces that they have on the inside
Speaker 1: of that offensive line, they're gonna be able to bang
Speaker 1: teams offensively and on defense. John Fox and this year,
Speaker 1: if you look at his trajectory with teams, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's now going in to the right time frame where
Speaker 1: that defense is gonna be. Really, it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: good John Fox defense. Now, they're not gonna be eleven
Speaker 1: and five or anything, but that I bet you they're
Speaker 1: around eight and eight, which would be a major jump.
Speaker 1: For what concerns me in Chicago is that if it
Speaker 1: doesn't get off to a positive start and things start
Speaker 1: to get ugly, and let's say both quarterbacks struggle, both
Speaker 1: play and both struggle. That the whole thing coming out
Speaker 1: of the draft was that they didn't even really share
Speaker 1: with John Fox what their plans were with Trabinsky. And
Speaker 1: that's a couple of hours before because it basically it
Speaker 1: comes down, dude, they thought that John Fox would talk
Speaker 1: to others and they couldn't trust him to keep his
Speaker 1: mouth shut. It sort of was weird, but that that
Speaker 1: just tells you I don't like these teams where it's
Speaker 1: only June and the GM and the coach are both
Speaker 1: under a tremendous amount of pressure, and there will be
Speaker 1: some pressure if Glennon really struggles to put Trabinsky in
Speaker 1: to see what you have? Why not if they if
Speaker 1: they bought them out and then suddenly the season floats away.
Speaker 1: If everything goes well eight and Nate, A lot of
Speaker 1: teams know it's that's not a crazy I guess that's
Speaker 1: not an outlandish prediction. But I do think that they
Speaker 1: will look back. They'll look back at the end of
Speaker 1: around Christmas of and then they'll do it again in
Speaker 1: five years and then in fifteen years that they took
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trobiskie over Jamal Adams, who about fifteen years from
Speaker 1: now that he'll be wrapping things up and they'll be
Speaker 1: talking about how he's about to get a gold jacket. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if he's gonna have a
Speaker 1: ring on his finger hand z that's your concern. In
Speaker 1: between What happens in the in between, Well, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at their wide receiver corps. Mean, they're gonna run the
Speaker 1: hell out of the ball that Kevin White. If you know,
Speaker 1: Kevin White's in year three, but don't forget that people
Speaker 1: were talking about him versus Amari Cooper been injuries that
Speaker 1: have held him back. Okay, good talk guys. Uh, and
Speaker 1: we will have a similar conversation, but in a little
Speaker 1: twist an NFL network to twists being it will be
Speaker 1: about twelve minutes shorter. Yes, and check won't be here
Speaker 1: things like that before we go. I need you know
Speaker 1: this is something I don't think it was. We had
Speaker 1: settled it, so let's now bring him on the phone.
Speaker 1: He is a correspondent from the UK living here in America.
Speaker 1: Handsome Hank and it worked things out now with Dave
Speaker 1: damnishek uh, Handsome Hank and on some levels disrespected in
Speaker 1: a big spot. Your thoughts, Henry Wow, Um, what an introduction.
Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting Dave to actually be be there. I
Speaker 1: feel like I would have been able to put more
Speaker 1: freely without my boss um being able to overhear um.
Speaker 1: But I feel I do feel like you know. On
Speaker 1: on on Tuesday, I was very excited, as I always
Speaker 1: am as a collaborator with Dave in his creative endeavors,
Speaker 1: to join him on his podcast. And I arrived and Um,
Speaker 1: I was shunk to the side. But I'll be honest,
Speaker 1: three far superior broadcasters and Dave Um but it was
Speaker 1: it was a little you know, upsetting to discover after
Speaker 1: after moving my schedule around, that that I was no
Speaker 1: longer needed. Who was the gatekeeper that wouldn't pull back
Speaker 1: the velvet rope for you at the door that day? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean it was Emma, but I would not never
Speaker 1: put that on Emma herself. Thank you, really, you know,
Speaker 1: having been in that sort of head writer for the
Speaker 1: DDFP role myself from from Dave himself. How about the idea, Henry,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you were told this that, uh,
Speaker 1: the reason why you didn't fit in was because there's
Speaker 1: only four chairs in here, although routinely on our podcasting
Speaker 1: around the NFL podcast, we'll have five chairs, no problem,
Speaker 1: Let's get the dialogue goal, let's have fun together, not
Speaker 1: exclusionary in anyway. Your thoughts on that, well, I mean
Speaker 1: then that's why I really like you, because you're a
Speaker 1: guy who can find created solutions to problems. If it's
Speaker 1: four chairs, like I've got two legs, I could have
Speaker 1: stood you know that. That's that's really that's how I
Speaker 1: see myself as as someone who can come up with
Speaker 1: with this is this, it's this, It's situations like this
Speaker 1: stoke in these fires. This is why Sydney didn't take
Speaker 1: Kansas and favor remember them Henry as a male, do
Speaker 1: you hello, Henry? And nice to hang out with you
Speaker 1: yesterday at the game. But I know we're not no one.
Speaker 1: You can't ask this question, but do you did? A
Speaker 1: little part of you feel like I'm being marginalized because
Speaker 1: I am a male in this situation. No. Look, I'm
Speaker 1: fully supportive of what Dave was trying to do. Why
Speaker 1: are you such a misogynist handsome? I think that's Successler
Speaker 1: is asking. I don't think that is what he does before.
Speaker 1: I think he's given me an opportunity to prove that
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't think that you are necessarily, but
Speaker 1: please speak. I know I was. I was excited. I
Speaker 1: honestly I can't wait for the podcast that Dave, Colleen
Speaker 1: and the crew created because I looked forward to listening to.
Speaker 1: I just was, honestly a little selfishly. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to sit on it and on it and hear it
Speaker 1: all happening. Lot feel bad. I'm playing the sympathy God,
Speaker 1: please send strawberries. Wait, Henry, your take on Damna checks
Speaker 1: continuing impression of you which at times reached fever yesterday
Speaker 1: during the Dodgers game. Uh, it's not improving, hasn't improved.
Speaker 1: And he first tried it out in December two thousand ten.
Speaker 1: Like all things, Dave, that's pretty much it. Yeah, exactly, Henry,
Speaker 1: as good as it was going to get about twenty
Speaker 1: eight years ago. And that's it. And I'll be Henry
Speaker 1: um real quick. What's the name of that thing that
Speaker 1: cowboys used to uh get the cattle they throw? It's
Speaker 1: like a rope. I mean, I think what you're talking
Speaker 1: about is the last suit lass sue. Yeah, no, that's
Speaker 1: like good Okay, that's that's what everyone calls it. I know, Henry,
Speaker 1: you have to do some fatherly duties now. But thank
Speaker 1: you for calling in and just kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: clearing the air a little bit. That's good. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: glad you as always you've managed to clear the air down.
Speaker 1: And you know that guy that straighten things out, he's
Speaker 1: a man of Paton, that's what that's what he does.
Speaker 1: We're sending him to the Middle East as soon as
Speaker 1: Kushner's that guy. All right, Thank you, handsome Hank. All right,
Speaker 1: good to feat you guys, And I don't want to
Speaker 1: embarrass Handsome Hank, but a prominent member of NFL media.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say who it was because I
Speaker 1: don't want to embarrass her. But when she did see
Speaker 1: Handsome Hank in the lobby at the at the summit um,
Speaker 1: she she let out a gasp and said Handsome Hank,
Speaker 1: and it was it seemed to be that she was
Speaker 1: impressed that Henry really is that handsome earned the nickname.
Speaker 1: I think he That seems to be the reaction he
Speaker 1: gets from from multiple females. I totally get it. And
Speaker 1: I see the contrast between myself and others enter the
Speaker 1: room with a zero response from females at all. So
Speaker 1: it is there is a contrast that's quite striking. Then
Speaker 1: I think it's the same person who told me every
Speaker 1: time she sees him now she just screams Handsome Hank
Speaker 1: and him hello. I mean, there's there's legs there. It's nice.
Speaker 1: Nice to be Handsome Hank. All right, Dave, Dan, Dave,
Speaker 1: damn check football program, Still trucking, still going, you believe it?
Speaker 1: It's a video show. How much longer can we I mean,
Speaker 1: how much longer we stretch this thing out? Alrighty Uh,
Speaker 1: get it already. You have a stupid voice and you
Speaker 1: like things that are black and gold. Yes, so home
Speaker 1: leave us alone already, would you, Dave? You're into that,
Speaker 1: if you're into the Steelers, NFL fruit the game of life,
Speaker 1: that's what we come. We don't just cover the game
Speaker 1: of football and DDFP understand, we tackle the game of life,
Speaker 1: which you might even go so far as to say
Speaker 1: is even more important, important than the game of football.
Speaker 1: That's what I say. Some would say, so check out
Speaker 1: the d DFP if you're not already doing it. And uh,
Speaker 1: of course the The Heat and the Light podcast that
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I mean, that's that's coming at some
Speaker 1: point when you know, when is that starting? Did it start?
Speaker 1: Started to start? But I was where it started. What
Speaker 1: did What Connor and I did was we were like,
Speaker 1: let's just do a project that that we have zero
Speaker 1: expectations for, we put zero preparation into, and once we
Speaker 1: post it, we do not look back. Worked out for Seinfeld, well,
Speaker 1: we haven't. We have. The listener's response, I would say,
Speaker 1: at best is split. So we're fine with that though.
Speaker 1: That means everybody there is a fifty chance that you
Speaker 1: will love it. That's the way I like to lean.
Speaker 1: And yes, the throwback podcast with my buddy Bob that
Speaker 1: is on iTunes. Check that out. Next time you hear
Speaker 1: from us will be Tuesday. Greg will be back and
Speaker 1: we'll dig into more of this Miko Grinds viewed and
Speaker 1: continue to plot our counter offensive against the wife of
Speaker 1: of the Bucks cornerback. We will not go quietly into
Speaker 1: that good night. Thank you Emma for your expert work
Speaker 1: behind the glass. First time ever perfect she did. It
Speaker 1: was amazing work. Uh and how quickly she got Hank
Speaker 1: on the phone are just like wow. And if you're
Speaker 1: thinking big picture, like career wise, where do you want
Speaker 1: to be in five years? I think I just think
Speaker 1: that's a good thing to think about. Okay, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start thinking about it. She's the head writer of
Speaker 1: the d D f P. You know, much loved by
Speaker 1: our guests, much more than they enjoy me. Maybe you
Speaker 1: should have to have that. People leave the show, people
Speaker 1: leave the show, they tweet back a day or two later.
Speaker 1: I love m A v P. What about the guy
Speaker 1: whose names on the show. Now it's all about m A. VP.
Speaker 1: That's why it's great to have. I appreciate it. She's
Speaker 1: a star. Thank you, Emma. Uh and the Shield tonight
Speaker 1: nine PM, four and two. I sent the message to
Speaker 1: the troops last week. We responded with a twenty one
Speaker 1: to six victory, and we gotta keep it rolling. They
Speaker 1: look they look great there the two games I've been to,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening there at the times, but
Speaker 1: the two that I've seen, you don't play, No, I
Speaker 1: don't play a ton Well we'll see I you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of I burned through some stock on the
Speaker 1: home front by going into the game yesterday and showing
Speaker 1: up to my house. Why don't you play? I do not.
Speaker 1: I cannot see for starters, and I cannot wear context
Speaker 1: like the ball would be coming at me like sort
Speaker 1: of a white fuzzy thing would probably just hit me
Speaker 1: in the jaw. Problematic and a hand eye coordination nation
Speaker 1: based game. I guess all right anyway, So yeah, let's
Speaker 1: go Shield, Colleen, thank you, Yeah, of course, your queen.
Speaker 1: Let's go home, Lean Lean my uncle NI call me
Speaker 1: that leave it like that Sodan and is signing up
Speaker 1: for the Sizzler check. Connie Fox and MVP behind the
Speaker 1: Glass till Tuesday