Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast featuring NFL Networks Greg. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast
Speaker 1: starring Greg Rosenthal. This is Dan hansis joined by room
Speaker 1: filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler and yes, the twice
Speaker 1: uh mentioned Greg Rosenthal, who Yes, some people say NFL network,
Speaker 1: some people, Sully still say NFL dot com. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Here with NFL dot com is
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal dot com dot com dot com. That is
Speaker 1: that is an all time right. I was talking to
Speaker 1: my friend Bob at a Hey, I have a friend
Speaker 1: named Bob, and one of you is lying, and he
Speaker 1: said when he first heard, I believe it was that drop,
Speaker 1: or it might have been the drop where it was
Speaker 1: kind of the Australian guy doing doing an NFL. He
Speaker 1: he was laughing so hard in in bed like it
Speaker 1: disrupted his wife's sleep and she was like, what is
Speaker 1: happening here? Why are you? And he had to rewind
Speaker 1: it many times to listen to it. That drop is
Speaker 1: a a couple of months old now, but Mark, I
Speaker 1: remember you and I going into Uh, this is not
Speaker 1: not gonna sound very masculine. Don't don't be ashamed. Of
Speaker 1: me that where are we going? We want to get
Speaker 1: our makeup done? Uh, you know. Across the way and
Speaker 1: in the makeup room was Amber Theo Harris, who gives
Speaker 1: the vocal on that sound drop, and she had been
Speaker 1: getting blown up on Twitter inter mentions like wait, do
Speaker 1: you guys making fun of me on your podcast? No?
Speaker 1: No, no no, no no. We had to explain what was
Speaker 1: behind it. Kind of a tricky difficult thing to explain
Speaker 1: to a person that doesn't have a lot of the
Speaker 1: background info on how that came to bate. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think we we basically utterly confused her and and like
Speaker 1: most interactions with uh you know our female coworkers run here,
Speaker 1: were just left with our status lower, potentially to some degree. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think I think that's very fair to say. This
Speaker 1: is the Wednesday edition of the Around the NFL podcast,
Speaker 1: and um, Chris Wessing cannot be with us today. Hopefully
Speaker 1: we'll have them back on Friday. But the show must
Speaker 1: go on, um, and we have a lot to get
Speaker 1: to today, including we are in the we're about to
Speaker 1: hit the dark period, right, Greg, this is it? Thursday
Speaker 1: thirty one teams wrapped it up the Cardinals. They decided
Speaker 1: to get an extra week of vacation, Bruce arians smart.
Speaker 1: They've been gone already for a week. The other thirty
Speaker 1: one teams are done Thursday. Is it smart or here's
Speaker 1: a perfect example of the segment today by seller Hold
Speaker 1: on minicamp narratives. Is it's smart to take you extra
Speaker 1: week or does it show a lack of commitment. It's
Speaker 1: a good question. Hold. It also started a week earlier too.
Speaker 1: I'm selling that I'm smart. Get that, Get that, Bak.
Speaker 1: I think it's what if you get a major injury
Speaker 1: on Thursday? Was that worth it? Please know you guys
Speaker 1: passed the test. That's a clear sell on the take.
Speaker 1: By the way, we think all this news is gonna
Speaker 1: come on Thursday, it's usually around by noon that you
Speaker 1: realized that half of these coaches took their team bowling
Speaker 1: like that last day is treated as a complete joke.
Speaker 1: It's like hop Scotch Tournament ten am, and then everybody's
Speaker 1: onto their jet skist Mike. Mike McCarthy said these are
Speaker 1: the most important practices of of the off season, at
Speaker 1: the same time that he gave the mini camp off
Speaker 1: to all of his veteran players. I will sell that
Speaker 1: storyline I'm selling that one too, all right, now, that's
Speaker 1: coming up later today. Also, a lot of news to
Speaker 1: get to, uh this maybe uh maybe for the last time,
Speaker 1: a lot of news to get to as the NFL
Speaker 1: does enter it's dark period, and that teases for something
Speaker 1: we'll talk about on Friday. Uh. Some mysteries ahead in
Speaker 1: the NFL. But for now, let it and Greg, we
Speaker 1: will get to the thing that we didn't get to
Speaker 1: on Monday. Just a little warning for you, okay, uh,
Speaker 1: peace and love all with all respect, we gotta get
Speaker 1: to it today. Alright, I'm here, all right, let's do
Speaker 1: some news. Bradley is going to escape from Herrera Raley
Speaker 1: trying to chip out your scores, Hichael Bradley, Okay, Sully
Speaker 1: and I would love to hear from Sully on this
Speaker 1: so good good choice of a news drop. So the
Speaker 1: US and uh Mexico had a World Cup qualifying match
Speaker 1: uh in Mexico City. Correct, correct, And Sully and we
Speaker 1: were talking a little bit before the show with a
Speaker 1: couple of his his buddies, including crowda right, yea, crowd ahead.
Speaker 1: Uh you you bust down and put your life on
Speaker 1: the line to attend this event. Attended by eighty four
Speaker 1: thousand Mexicans. And when thousand Americans, uh separated by some
Speaker 1: barb wire? Can you tell a little story separated by
Speaker 1: about I don't know about a hundred federales, a few
Speaker 1: U S Marines and a bunch of barbed wire and uh,
Speaker 1: separating the thousand US? Do you think that was necessary?
Speaker 1: Or was it? Really was? It was? It was the
Speaker 1: most intense atmosphere I've ever been in, for sure. So
Speaker 1: did you get there? There were you guys getting glares
Speaker 1: through the fence. What did you feel it was? It
Speaker 1: was more than glare's I mean they're throwing stuff out us.
Speaker 1: It was a constant you said you had like you
Speaker 1: were getting doused by like not just beer, but unknown
Speaker 1: liquids were flying it was gasoline sell Yeah, well you
Speaker 1: saw some of these lighters flying by you as well. Um,
Speaker 1: And I asked Sully, it is kind of a wild
Speaker 1: sports event to attend and like that awesome one. It's
Speaker 1: pretty cool that you went. But also it was part
Speaker 1: of it, like Mark, some practices you're into. You like
Speaker 1: the danger of it all, you know, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: you feel like it's about pleasure, but also sometimes the
Speaker 1: idea that there could be pain you're into that makes
Speaker 1: you feel more. I mean, I'll let you throw that
Speaker 1: on me. I'm not sure what that's in reference to,
Speaker 1: but probably probably for Sully. A big part of this
Speaker 1: was the danger of it all that you're going to
Speaker 1: support your your country's national team and also on some
Speaker 1: level putting yourself in bodily danger. Very interesting. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to report that Dan Dan Campbell came back and
Speaker 1: Bill had to replace Bill Belichick of the around the
Speaker 1: NFL producers. You, I think this earned you like more.
Speaker 1: Although Dan Campbell wouldn't need barbed wire of anything, but
Speaker 1: right down to you said, they took you the the
Speaker 1: all the security presence, took you out of the stadium
Speaker 1: into the safe house essentially, I mean from the hotel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're a Mexican listener of the show, um, reach
Speaker 1: out to Sully and let him know that that not
Speaker 1: everyone were l Tree fans were great, uh, the whole trip,
Speaker 1: except for game day. Like there they take it quite seriously.
Speaker 1: And we score and we scored a draw, which is
Speaker 1: a very good thing, correct, very good thing. All right,
Speaker 1: let's start with the news, and we'll start with Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck who obviously not taking part in the mini camp
Speaker 1: with the Cults and coming off shoulder surgery and his
Speaker 1: throwing shoulder, there continues to be uncertainty about his availability.
Speaker 1: Chuck Begano was asked uh this week on a timetable
Speaker 1: for Luck, and much of the consternation of Cults Nation
Speaker 1: is very clear there is none yet, no idea. My
Speaker 1: guess is as good as yours, you know. And um,
Speaker 1: you know he's going through the process. We know that
Speaker 1: process can be you know long. Um, he's doing well. Um,
Speaker 1: We're just gonna take it one day at a time,
Speaker 1: you know, And the next step is getting to the
Speaker 1: point where you know he can throw, you know, and
Speaker 1: then there's gonna be you know, obviously a number and
Speaker 1: a pitch count you know on that, and um, he's
Speaker 1: gonna have to continue to build, um, you know, from
Speaker 1: the ground floor up Mark Andrew Luck was asked about
Speaker 1: his shoulder and he said they don't need to have
Speaker 1: any concerns. It will be fine. Should there be concerns here.
Speaker 1: I mean, you want your franchise quarterback to go through
Speaker 1: an entire offseason healthy. You don't want surgeries, you don't
Speaker 1: want to worry about pitch counts and all this business
Speaker 1: when he's twenty seven years old. But at this point
Speaker 1: in June, I mean, I don't think you get overly
Speaker 1: where you want to just treat his body, that you
Speaker 1: want to give him the perfect chance to heal and
Speaker 1: not rush it. The the most mistake you could make
Speaker 1: would be to get him out there and get him
Speaker 1: active before he's ready. Yeah, but not so much right now.
Speaker 1: The fact that they're not saying what you want to hear.
Speaker 1: If your cults fan is, oh, he'll be ready for
Speaker 1: training camp. We're easing him back now. But the fact
Speaker 1: that they they're not ready to say that this is
Speaker 1: a very serious situation makes you assume that he won't
Speaker 1: be ready for the start of training camp. And and
Speaker 1: they're definitely suiting for week one. And that just shows
Speaker 1: you what a serious surgery he was, because he had
Speaker 1: the surgery in the middle of January. And the fact
Speaker 1: that he's not close, it doesn't sound like he's too
Speaker 1: close to throw in yet. And when he's fully back,
Speaker 1: like I just list, you know, reading between the lines,
Speaker 1: and I've seen a lot of these over the years,
Speaker 1: you might you wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't play
Speaker 1: at all in the preseason. If the first game action
Speaker 1: he sees is during the regular season, and and there
Speaker 1: has to be at least some thought that that he
Speaker 1: won't be ready for opening day. But we're just guessing.
Speaker 1: That's what we do. Well, that's what we do. That's
Speaker 1: part of the gig. In other quarterback news, franchise quarterbacks
Speaker 1: with shoulder issues, Cam Newton won't be throwing at Panthers
Speaker 1: minicamp after all. Just days after UM it was anticipated
Speaker 1: by the team that he would be throwing at this camp.
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera said that he quote got ahead of himself
Speaker 1: by one week. Uh. This according to the team's official website. Uh. Nothing,
Speaker 1: not a setback for Newton, according to Mike Garret Folo,
Speaker 1: but Rivera just got a little little of ahead of himself.
Speaker 1: He's still on track, So that's more a positive timetable
Speaker 1: for your franchise quarterback. Expect Cam to be ready. I
Speaker 1: would think of training camp. But we shall see. We
Speaker 1: shall see. What shows that the two surgeries were different,
Speaker 1: even though significantly different, even though they were both shoulder surgeries.
Speaker 1: Because Cam had his surgery three months after right Andrew Luck,
Speaker 1: it was a twelve week recovery for him to be
Speaker 1: throwing the ball again. So just you know, reading between
Speaker 1: the lines, you can pretty much see that that the
Speaker 1: luck surgery was more invasive. Well, and even if they
Speaker 1: were the same, and they clearly weren't in this case,
Speaker 1: you have no idea how two different human bodies are
Speaker 1: going to respond to the same type of surgery. Moving
Speaker 1: on in Cleveland Browns camp, there's a couple of things
Speaker 1: going to burst up. Brock Osweiler. He is, of course
Speaker 1: the quarterback that was acquired in a trade with the
Speaker 1: Browns in that complex salary dump scenario. And guess what,
Speaker 1: not only is he's still in the mix right now
Speaker 1: for the Browns, He's gotten a lot of positive buzz
Speaker 1: about how he's looked in the possibility that he actually
Speaker 1: is going to be the starter coming out of Campbell
Speaker 1: see how that works out. But he talked about his
Speaker 1: chances and his ambition is uh for the Cleveland football franchise.
Speaker 1: I want started seeing him and I'm working every single day,
Speaker 1: um to put myself in a position to earn that
Speaker 1: starting job. But um on, my focus isn't anywhere as
Speaker 1: far as who's getting what reps. My My soul focus
Speaker 1: is what can I do today? To be a better
Speaker 1: player and have a good practice and make my keymates better.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a Penis ring doll answer for
Speaker 1: a quarterback. He's been this guy from the minute any
Speaker 1: of us heard any anything he had to say when
Speaker 1: he was the Peyton Manning's backup. That he's very measured, Uh,
Speaker 1: sort of an athlete quote speak machine. Uh, he's good
Speaker 1: at that, And I am not really that concerned with
Speaker 1: how he looks. You know, in June minicamp practices and
Speaker 1: previous O t A s that Osweiler's issues have always
Speaker 1: been when you're on the field against an opponent who's
Speaker 1: actually blitzing you and putting you into putting you into danger,
Speaker 1: where is your decision making in your mechanics at that point.
Speaker 1: I wish we had a if the was a TV show,
Speaker 1: a split screen of when Brock is talking to Mark
Speaker 1: rolling his eyes and shaking his head listening to Brock
Speaker 1: now that he's on Team Sessler. I don't dislike the guy,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of baggage that obviously comes with
Speaker 1: Brock Osweiler, and and one thing that has that I
Speaker 1: find a little bit I promise you a bad for
Speaker 1: him now acting him today. I was like, well, he's
Speaker 1: here's what. He's making a ton of money still and
Speaker 1: he has a legit opportunity. If you if there's two
Speaker 1: or three teams on the league, in the league where
Speaker 1: if your Brocks will you have a legit chance to
Speaker 1: start games this season? This is one of them and
Speaker 1: ended up being not a terrible landing spot. I just
Speaker 1: think that when the trade happened, the presumption was he
Speaker 1: won't even be on the roster, he won't even be
Speaker 1: on the team by the time we get here, and
Speaker 1: he still is well, and that's when the when the
Speaker 1: trade happened, Um, the Browns of course got a lot
Speaker 1: of positive press for making this move, and then it
Speaker 1: even seemed even more kind of clever that then there
Speaker 1: were the reports, oh, the Browns might not even want
Speaker 1: them at all and they're gonna cut him. And I
Speaker 1: remember at the time of the trade, I said it
Speaker 1: on this podcasts like, I hope this doesn't end with
Speaker 1: come the end of the summer, we're hearing reports about
Speaker 1: how Brock is really he has a good chance of
Speaker 1: parks because you know it's not gonna work out. Let's
Speaker 1: just be honest, like we've been through this before. Jets
Speaker 1: fans have been down this road. Browns fans have been
Speaker 1: down this road that when you try to put this
Speaker 1: type of around peg into the square hole, it's never
Speaker 1: gonna fit. So it's seems to me like a waste
Speaker 1: of time when you could have a guy like de
Speaker 1: Shaan Kaiser, maybe get him more reps, get him right
Speaker 1: in the mix maybe, or another developmental guy like Cody Kessler.
Speaker 1: Jets have a similar situation with Josh McCown potentially starting.
Speaker 1: When you have two young kids on a going nowhere team. Uh,
Speaker 1: I just brock as while they're starting games, especially week one.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it sends a bad message to
Speaker 1: the fan base. I don't think that there's any even
Speaker 1: remote suggestion of a guarantee that that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like all we've heard this week
Speaker 1: is that, and Hugh Jackson does not want to talk
Speaker 1: about reps and where they're happening with the first or
Speaker 1: second team. But Kaiser's being given a Russell Wilson like
Speaker 1: chance to win the starting job. I think Kessler is
Speaker 1: probably Kessler and Kaiser. You'd to imagine in both cases
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson had a lot of say in drafting those quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Oswila just landed on the roster in in a in
Speaker 1: a bizarre front, and they never really replaced them. I
Speaker 1: I and I've always wondered if they had, if they
Speaker 1: had conversations with the NFL after the trade happened, and
Speaker 1: if they got any pressure to keep him, because it
Speaker 1: was essentially illegal to do a contract dump according to
Speaker 1: NFL rules, and they maybe they admonished him for it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well, they they're all they're giving him
Speaker 1: first team reps, right, I mean, he's yeah, But it
Speaker 1: sounds like, for instance, yesterday when all this stuff at
Speaker 1: Kaiser is getting first team Kaiser and Kessler worked mostly
Speaker 1: with mostly with the first and Oswalder mostly with the
Speaker 1: second team. But then again it switches day to day.
Speaker 1: I don't read too much in that when you don't
Speaker 1: have a clear quarterback, right and when they're in we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to my my trip to Rams camp like
Speaker 1: that really hammered at home for me. How how over
Speaker 1: cooked a lot of the conversation is this time of year.
Speaker 1: For instance, Van's Joseph, the coach of the Broncos, said,
Speaker 1: in terms of his quarterback competition may in June will
Speaker 1: have zero to none in terms of the impact that
Speaker 1: it will have on his decision. He says, that's how
Speaker 1: much man June has mattered to him. Zero to none.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Eric Decker is a free agent now
Speaker 1: after the Jets formally released the veteran wide deceiver earlier
Speaker 1: this week and his first day as a free agent,
Speaker 1: the receiver's meeting with the Tennessee Titans. Rap Sheet reported
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Um Decca released Tuesdays, thirty years old. We
Speaker 1: know the story of him. He's coming off a couple
Speaker 1: of surgeries. His last full healthy season, he was part
Speaker 1: of the best wide receiver wide receiver duo in football,
Speaker 1: and I continue to think that he is a massive,
Speaker 1: massive value by at this stage of the game on
Speaker 1: the NFL calendar. Whoever gets him and the Titans feel
Speaker 1: like a nice fit potentially. I don't think I didn't
Speaker 1: just see you just throw in the best wide receiver
Speaker 1: duo in football, like like oion opinion, We'll see I
Speaker 1: love this. You're not gonna believe, by the way, You're
Speaker 1: not gonna believe their opinions on this podcast. And I
Speaker 1: don't know while you're here give me this because I
Speaker 1: I am on Mark's corner now with the worst team
Speaker 1: in the league, they had they combined yards in right.
Speaker 1: I quickly tried to race through and and think of
Speaker 1: a better example, and I couldn't, So you might be right.
Speaker 1: And I love this move for the Titans. And look,
Speaker 1: I'm all in on the Chargers being the team of
Speaker 1: around the NFL. Matt money Smith, they missed that announcement
Speaker 1: that he was going to be the play by playhost,
Speaker 1: but that that helps it even more. But I do
Speaker 1: like these Titans too. And Eric Decker adding to that group,
Speaker 1: I mean, Mariota having a whole new receiver group, I
Speaker 1: think it'd be a terrific pickup. Yeah, and John Robinson
Speaker 1: again has proven that he works quickly. That the why
Speaker 1: you went into this offseason with wide receiver being a
Speaker 1: burning need. You now have Corey Davis. If you ever
Speaker 1: added Eric Decker, that that position group is becomes a
Speaker 1: strength potentially, and it was a completely different type of offense, right,
Speaker 1: and you have you have their third round pick Um
Speaker 1: was also at wide receiver, Taiwan Taylor, so that could
Speaker 1: be like a totally different group essentially. If you pick
Speaker 1: up Decker and Matthews a solid. He's gonna Playtasha sharp
Speaker 1: and keep his head on straight. This guy sounds like
Speaker 1: a little bit of a m He made another guy's
Speaker 1: head not straight. According to reports. We don't want to
Speaker 1: say it's all legend. I don't want to throw any
Speaker 1: cold water. I know everybody seems very excited to make
Speaker 1: the Chargers the team of a t L. I guess
Speaker 1: I'm the only one that has any problems with them
Speaker 1: abandoning the city of San Diego. Like I'm with you
Speaker 1: on that reward them as team of a t L
Speaker 1: after they committed what I thought was an affront to
Speaker 1: a very loyal fan base. I find it an odd
Speaker 1: team because we haven't we haven't circled around and had
Speaker 1: a second a team of a teal second time. It
Speaker 1: would be an odd year to do that for a
Speaker 1: team that completely showed zero loyalty to the city of
Speaker 1: saying not come up yet. There's been a lot of
Speaker 1: positive juice about the Chargers on the show in the
Speaker 1: least a couple of months. I'm sure it was a
Speaker 1: team you make a strong point. I was there at
Speaker 1: the at the last game in San Diego history, and
Speaker 1: I came back talking about it for days about how
Speaker 1: they you know, creamed that poor city and how unfair
Speaker 1: it was. If you make a strong point, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think there's sensitivity to it. And you know, we'll figure
Speaker 1: out our team of at L by roughly week eight
Speaker 1: or nin so there will be in depth conversation. Moving
Speaker 1: on to Bears camp, Mitchell Travisky. Of course, the second
Speaker 1: overall pick has a lot of work to do. We
Speaker 1: only at thirteen starts at the university in North Carolina,
Speaker 1: and he needs as many live reps as possible to
Speaker 1: really get up to speed at this level of football.
Speaker 1: And during Tuesday's mini camp, coach John Fox was asked
Speaker 1: if he would consider a Chrubisky package quote unquote to
Speaker 1: ensure the first round pick got some work this season.
Speaker 1: Fox decided to conjure up his time with Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1: I've been around in situations like that before, you know,
Speaker 1: back in my time in Denver, even with Tebow. So
Speaker 1: oh yeah, we're gonna do whatever we can as coaches.
Speaker 1: We've gotta put guys in positions where they can utilize
Speaker 1: their skill set. And it won't be any different this year. Uh,
Speaker 1: plenty of logic there, Mark, but just invoking the name
Speaker 1: Tebow with any young quarterback. It just feels like it's
Speaker 1: something that's unnecessary because Tiba does not have a great
Speaker 1: reputation as a professional quarterback. Let's just be honest here.
Speaker 1: I I don't know why this thing where you bring
Speaker 1: these rookies and the Browns tried this with Johnny Manziel
Speaker 1: to where we're gonna have a package of plays or
Speaker 1: a different type of offense for rookie quarterback X. I
Speaker 1: don't know why you develop Rabisky this way when when
Speaker 1: it's also saying we want to give him a full
Speaker 1: year to develop and and and really come back the
Speaker 1: year after as a potential starter. I it always bothers
Speaker 1: me that Fox essentially was kept in the dark about
Speaker 1: this entire trade up and the way that they picked Robinsky,
Speaker 1: and now he's got to deal with it, and it's
Speaker 1: not a player that he wanted necessarily, and it's a
Speaker 1: team that there probably is going to be increased pressure
Speaker 1: of Mike glennon struggles, not from Fox so the coaching
Speaker 1: staff necessarily, but from other parts of the building to
Speaker 1: get Robinsky on the field. And this I don't think
Speaker 1: this is that, but it sort of hints it that
Speaker 1: a little and if you if you really breakdown what
Speaker 1: Fox said, like almost everything John Fox said it amounts
Speaker 1: to nothing. I mean he doesn't say anything. No one
Speaker 1: gives less to the media, and it's it would seem
Speaker 1: crazy in my mind if they did this with Rabisky,
Speaker 1: I kind of would be surprised if if it happened.
Speaker 1: I want to cycle back to the Browns quickly. Bad
Speaker 1: hosting job by me, but let's cycle back. This happened
Speaker 1: right before we came upstairs. But Myles Garrett, the first
Speaker 1: overall pick in the NFL draft UH in mini camp
Speaker 1: on UH today Wednesday, suffered a foot injury. He was
Speaker 1: seen limping to the sideline at the end of the practice. Um,
Speaker 1: coach you Jackson did not seem to think it was serious. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's so we'll find out. And this would be a
Speaker 1: good test mark if the Browns, if God hates Cleveland
Speaker 1: all that stuff, if if if we have some type
Speaker 1: of serious setback for this guy, let's just help, you
Speaker 1: know it just a little cramp or something. Nothing. Uh
Speaker 1: no Sammy walkin scenario here. Yeah. I feel like if
Speaker 1: if God has like a like a top five sort
Speaker 1: of power rankings of cities that would be on his radar.
Speaker 1: Why why Cleveland, A you know, it's economically struggling, a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, salt of the Earth type people.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you be more focused on certain like hyper
Speaker 1: violent areas of the Middle East to be on your
Speaker 1: radar than Cleveland. Maybe get over that God Wow, taking
Speaker 1: shots at them, not taking a shot at well, I thought,
Speaker 1: not taking not taking a shot at God necessarily either,
Speaker 1: but just maybe asking him to rethink this. That's what's
Speaker 1: happening here, prends, funds and burners the God Wow, because
Speaker 1: I mean, let's get our priorities from our listeners from
Speaker 1: the Middle East. That is Mark Sessler, alright, he lives
Speaker 1: in West l a. If any. They have had three
Speaker 1: and I know, I know they're hurting right now, but
Speaker 1: they have had three straight NBA Finals appearances. Things things
Speaker 1: haven't gotten too poorly, and they came within one like
Speaker 1: inning of winning the World Series last year two so well,
Speaker 1: by the way, that's not what I would call that's
Speaker 1: painful exactly, that's not joy before. The Indians are a
Speaker 1: great team now and the Calves obviously have Lebron h
Speaker 1: if if just if the Browns could just get over
Speaker 1: the hub, right, we don't need any more document you know,
Speaker 1: documentaries from Yes, I would be fine for there to
Speaker 1: be no more documentaries, including if that means Cleveland actually
Speaker 1: does something more than win two games in a season.
Speaker 1: It is airing again this weekend. Speak of ESPN documentaries.
Speaker 1: You know, we get this, we get the narrative. It's
Speaker 1: been out there for a while. Horrible NBA Playoffs. Very
Speaker 1: disappointed how it all turned out. Um, but I just
Speaker 1: want to say, the one thing I was looking forward to,
Speaker 1: and I saw hundreds of commercials leading up to it,
Speaker 1: was the Celtics Lakers thirty for thirty. I think it
Speaker 1: was best of enemies is the name of it. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I sit down in front of my uh television,
Speaker 1: I put I put the young boy to bed, and
Speaker 1: my other boy hasn't come home yet, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dig in on this because I love that
Speaker 1: magic Bird history. He's getting bombed. I've lost control of
Speaker 1: Jack Ready's two and a half. Um, and the first
Speaker 1: voice I hear basically is Donnie Wahlberg. I grew up
Speaker 1: on the South side of Boston with Larry Bird was king,
Speaker 1: and I love Boston and then it's like and then
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, dueling narrator, here comes ice Cube. Oh
Speaker 1: the Lakers were everything was all about the Lakers and
Speaker 1: Larry Bird's terrible. It's like, do not hit me with
Speaker 1: the dueling narrators with Donnie Wahlberg of all people, not
Speaker 1: even Mark and then ice Cube again. And how many
Speaker 1: more documentaries is ice Cube have to be involved with
Speaker 1: narrating about the Los Angeles sports scene? We did it?
Speaker 1: What are we gonna keep on doing? This? Come back
Speaker 1: to us very much like this ramp, I mean, clever
Speaker 1: moved by you to pivot to Cube to distract attention
Speaker 1: away from your Donnie Warburg Boston impression. That was the
Speaker 1: hands of Gary Barden's going out. Let me try it again.
Speaker 1: I grew up in in Southey where Larry Bird was
Speaker 1: king a minute, Nana, you love it, boss. I can't
Speaker 1: do it. The word Larry did not come out correctly there.
Speaker 1: I I lived on a college dorm campus. It was
Speaker 1: I wasn't exactly you know out where like the Goodwill
Speaker 1: hunting guys. Really anyway, I just you know, the ice
Speaker 1: Cube thing. They just did that with the the Raiders
Speaker 1: thing with wasn't there a Raiders documentary ice Cube Narry
Speaker 1: And it was good, it was fine. It was nice
Speaker 1: that that Cube was involved with that one. But now
Speaker 1: you're running them back for this and it's Donnie against
Speaker 1: ice Cube. Donny is a little low wattage. That's a
Speaker 1: concerning choice by Uspian. I will say one thing about
Speaker 1: the Raiders though, I mean, does it have to be
Speaker 1: there's an organization worthy of some documentaries. A lot of
Speaker 1: good things have happened. Did we ever even get to
Speaker 1: the Browns news? Yeah, Myles Garrett had a footage. I
Speaker 1: mean I don't even recall talking. Yeah we did. It's
Speaker 1: not that serious, they hope, and we hope it's not.
Speaker 1: And if if it is serious, remember that's how we
Speaker 1: got to it, then God hate the Browns. Then I
Speaker 1: am going to leave the company. Uh. Finally that's enough
Speaker 1: is enough? Oh I totally get that. Uh And finally Greg,
Speaker 1: they put them on the road. Uh. This week Greg
Speaker 1: Rosenthal went to Rams camp on Tuesday. So you might
Speaker 1: remember last year, Uh, it was Greggy does Dallas and
Speaker 1: now this year, um let's call it Greggy Pokes Thousand Oaks.
Speaker 1: Who I like that. It's also kind of gross, that's
Speaker 1: what we're going for. I will. I mean, Thousand Oaks
Speaker 1: is a beautiful town, so I guess if I was
Speaker 1: gonna Polka town. I had never I had never been
Speaker 1: there before, but they they're at cal Lutheran University I
Speaker 1: wasn't familiar with. But a beautiful setting, some mountains in
Speaker 1: the in the back, perfect weather. I think it's very quiet.
Speaker 1: One thing that that struck me being up there. It's
Speaker 1: almost like the RAMS are like a small market team
Speaker 1: in terms of their coverage still. I mean they were
Speaker 1: in St. Louis, which is one of the smallest markets,
Speaker 1: but it was pretty quiet. Was great because you know,
Speaker 1: I could talk to people, but you know five, five
Speaker 1: or six you know, print reporters, you know, a couple
Speaker 1: of local TV. Well that's about it. Quiet and there
Speaker 1: was some incredible access. Like there there'd be that was
Speaker 1: a scrum, and there'd be there's no you couldn't call
Speaker 1: it a scrum, three reporters standing around when we did.
Speaker 1: I went to Oxnard last spring when they did the
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks press conference and that was that was the
Speaker 1: rams first year back in l A. You would think
Speaker 1: there will be a lot of l A reporters and
Speaker 1: it was just like me and like three other guys,
Speaker 1: they're asking the questions on something that was live on
Speaker 1: NFL network, and afterwards there's just like anybody could have
Speaker 1: gone up to any of the front office officials. They
Speaker 1: had Todd Gurley and a couple other players available, and
Speaker 1: it was just there was no swell at all. It
Speaker 1: makes sense, I guess it makes sense because you've got
Speaker 1: reporters going to the Angels and the Dodgers and I
Speaker 1: don't know other other things. I mean, they are having
Speaker 1: to win over I mean, you're gonna have to win
Speaker 1: over this mark in terms of in terms of interest,
Speaker 1: I guess I mean that the the institute, you know
Speaker 1: in Cleveland, It's like people have been Browns fans for
Speaker 1: fifty years, so you know, you gotta build that back up. Greg. So,
Speaker 1: what were your takeaways from your visit if you had
Speaker 1: any at all? Uh? Well, Greg, one thing that stuck
Speaker 1: out was that now I had a couple Greg Robinson.
Speaker 1: Remember Greg Robinson, number two overall pick in the draft.
Speaker 1: He was he was not even getting on the field
Speaker 1: with the first or the second team. So that made
Speaker 1: that made me think that they are going to move
Speaker 1: on from Greg Robinson or they're really trying to send
Speaker 1: a message. But he's due three and a half million
Speaker 1: dollars and that's a lot for a guy who's, I
Speaker 1: guess right now fifth or sixth in their rotation at tackle,
Speaker 1: which is do you want to do? You know the
Speaker 1: message that they were sending, Hey, Gred, Greg Robinson, you suck.
Speaker 1: That's terrible. Uh wait, that that is you know they're
Speaker 1: not letting him play at all? Sit down, be humble
Speaker 1: might be the second part of them. Uh be humble. Uh.
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley never likes when we're to be critical players.
Speaker 1: And I was I was pointing. I was pointing out,
Speaker 1: stop leave him alone. You always react the same way. A. Well,
Speaker 1: he's building a relationship with the Rims, so you know
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to be up in there in beautiful
Speaker 1: thousand Oaks maybe sooner. Orter. He's like a guy Greg's
Speaker 1: and double a NFL dot com and he wants to
Speaker 1: get the tap and he wants to come up to
Speaker 1: the major's NFL network. And that's how you stay there.
Speaker 1: You gotta to have access. You need to treat the
Speaker 1: players as higher entities than yourself. And I see it
Speaker 1: now makes it well With that in mind, I'll point
Speaker 1: out it did look like if you're a Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: fantasy owner or that hated life last year because they
Speaker 1: would never get him the ball in the passing game.
Speaker 1: I hesitate to take too much away from watching these
Speaker 1: practices and shorts, but you couldn't help but notice that
Speaker 1: he's lining up out wide, you know, outside of two
Speaker 1: wide receivers a couple of times. Then he's motioning in
Speaker 1: running the other way and they're throwing it to him.
Speaker 1: I mean, he he seemed to be getting a lot
Speaker 1: of targets in the passing game, and I would find
Speaker 1: that exciting. Tyler Higbee was the other guy who had
Speaker 1: a great day. I mean, I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: had a great couple of weeks, but he was a
Speaker 1: beast in the end zone. One question, because yeah, it's well,
Speaker 1: can you take away in terms of what you're seeing
Speaker 1: play to play, but is there any do you see
Speaker 1: any shared DNA between the Redskins on tape and the
Speaker 1: Rams offense or is it just too hard to put
Speaker 1: that together at this point. I think just the way
Speaker 1: that McVeigh talks in terms of them, he's trying to
Speaker 1: create matchups you know. That's what he answered when talking
Speaker 1: about Girly, and girle was really trying to It's almost
Speaker 1: like the reporters are trying to make him own that
Speaker 1: he struggled last year, and he almost refuses to say
Speaker 1: that that it's all team thing. He said, he doesn't
Speaker 1: care about what he does individually, only cares about the team.
Speaker 1: But I think there's just a confidence from all the
Speaker 1: players on both sides of the ball, but especially offense.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, we have some people that you know
Speaker 1: what they're doing. I mean a lot of Girlely was
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, just crediting the coaches. They weren't
Speaker 1: disparaging last year's coaches, but Jared Goff and Girly and
Speaker 1: really the offensive guys were just so effusive and how
Speaker 1: good these offensive coaches were. You can't help but compare
Speaker 1: them to the Jeff Fisher's staff. Was everyone nice to you, Greg? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They treat they were nice to Greggy. They took care
Speaker 1: of him. Everyone was treated as did you do any hits? No?
Speaker 1: No hits. I was kind of collecting stuff for a way.
Speaker 1: Why are they giv hits? Feature I did? I did
Speaker 1: let them know, but you know they had they have
Speaker 1: other people elsewhere that they decided to use. Any other
Speaker 1: takeaways before we move up. That's about Connor Barwin was
Speaker 1: a fantastic interview and it was very nice to really
Speaker 1: make extra time like after their meetings. Was there and
Speaker 1: that'll be in the Wade Phillips. Did you expense a
Speaker 1: meal or drinks after we're able to eat up there
Speaker 1: and before you came home to your family? Response? I
Speaker 1: was worried. Yeah, so I stopped at Trader Joe's right
Speaker 1: near near their facility and got a couple of grab
Speaker 1: and go things. It's about eight bucks. Oh, I would
Speaker 1: milk that expense account for more than I think you have. Roughly,
Speaker 1: I could have gotten dinner on the way back. I
Speaker 1: should have done that, but I didn't. Yeah, next time,
Speaker 1: I would say maximize that use use that money where
Speaker 1: you can. Well, they pay you for gas too, and
Speaker 1: they pay way too much for some reason. I don't
Speaker 1: know why, Like the gas rates very high. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: not let them know that. Yeah, well they seem fair
Speaker 1: to me. And when you were driving up to the
Speaker 1: facility where you did you roll down the windows and
Speaker 1: crank your tunage up and say, hey, I'm getting out
Speaker 1: of the office. This is why i'd work for the
Speaker 1: NFL anything like that. I was listening to some you
Speaker 1: know podcasts, I think some tennis podcasts. That is not
Speaker 1: something some WTF with Mark Maron. Listen to a little
Speaker 1: bit of that like that, I did feel like leaving
Speaker 1: there though there is something too all right. I put
Speaker 1: in an honest days work. Also, I filed before I left,
Speaker 1: so that sometimes I'm writing, you know, at night at home.
Speaker 1: It tends to be my thing lately, and it's like
Speaker 1: I filed. You know, you get in the car, it's sunny,
Speaker 1: you got a little tan. You're like, I'm an honest
Speaker 1: man making it outest. That's it's funny. It is. It's
Speaker 1: it's funny too because and in the rare occasions every
Speaker 1: once in a while when I've been in New York
Speaker 1: working for this job, and maybe let's say, for instance,
Speaker 1: because I'm aware of who all the jets beats, right,
Speaker 1: beat beat writers are. If I go to cover like
Speaker 1: a rex Press conference or something like that, I always
Speaker 1: feel like they're all looking at me like who is
Speaker 1: this toll? Like we are the beat guys. Who's this
Speaker 1: loser showing up? Oh? I think they are. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm saying that. But you know, although I don't think
Speaker 1: you were being judged at all. All the beat guys
Speaker 1: were extremely nice and gracious and uh they're ESPN reporter
Speaker 1: aldn Gonzoalz as he listens to the podcast, shout to
Speaker 1: al Yeah, Alton Gonzalez. Uh, let's uh so that was
Speaker 1: Greggy Pokes thousand oaks. Let's move on checking on the
Speaker 1: end around over on the old end around. Jeremy Macklin. Uh,
Speaker 1: as we know, are we doing it again? Oh? Every show?
Speaker 1: Now we're back. We're back. This team in the Ravens
Speaker 1: nest again Mark's least favorite team in the NFL. This,
Speaker 1: I mean, we might have to stop talking about the
Speaker 1: Ravens for the rest of the summer after this run. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin, you know that what happens when a prominent
Speaker 1: kind of interesting that Jeremy Macklin made the cut here.
Speaker 1: Whenever a prominent free agent is uh doing visits and
Speaker 1: a local restaurant will send a tweet, you know, an
Speaker 1: insert popular product here for life that will be fine
Speaker 1: with the bird sound thing. Let's kill the crows in
Speaker 1: the service of you know, publicity and some good will
Speaker 1: for the fans. Anyway, So there's a a restaurant called
Speaker 1: Jimmy Seafood in Baltimore that offered Macklin. First they said
Speaker 1: free crab cakes for the length of his contract, and
Speaker 1: then when Macklin didn't respond, they just up the anti
Speaker 1: and double down and made a lifetime offer. And what
Speaker 1: they didn't know is that Macklin was tracking at the
Speaker 1: all time. He had in his back pocket. So after
Speaker 1: he signed that deal with the Ravens, he came back
Speaker 1: at Jimmy Seafood and tweeted, I'd read what y'all said.
Speaker 1: I love crab cakes L O L. And then Jimmy
Speaker 1: Seafood responded, Mark, this is I want to get your
Speaker 1: take of this. H Jimmy Seafood responded, we are crabs
Speaker 1: of our word, and to me, the language of the
Speaker 1: tweet clearly seems to indicate that the crabs themselves are
Speaker 1: running Jimmy Seafood. And that's you know, fascinating, impressive quite frankly.
Speaker 1: Then again, and then you take a step back and go,
Speaker 1: wait a second, If the crabs are running the restaurant
Speaker 1: and they're serving crabs, it just took a dark, dark
Speaker 1: turn a Sulian green type turn almost and on top
Speaker 1: of it, they're literate and and and have a grasp
Speaker 1: of social media, which is also you know news. You
Speaker 1: can't it can't be easy to type with those crab claws.
Speaker 1: But let's not bury the lead here. They're sacrificed their
Speaker 1: own their own two people like Jeremy Macklin and the
Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of crab obsessed uh Marylands. But in
Speaker 1: theory crabs, right, like the best looking crabs are the
Speaker 1: one that you would put on a plate. Maybe not
Speaker 1: for crab cakes, but it's like, how do you how
Speaker 1: did the crabs decide who gets off here? Why would
Speaker 1: it be the like the higher level crab just self
Speaker 1: hating crabs Greg Rosenthal, genocidal crabs. Uh. And finally in
Speaker 1: the news Ben Bacado. So that was troubling, like that
Speaker 1: took a sharp left turn into onto like troubling bowloard Right,
Speaker 1: it's like that that skiing movie where they end up
Speaker 1: eating the dead. I will say one thing, I've never
Speaker 1: eaten crab cakes in my entire life. Not all right,
Speaker 1: but then the only time, well you don't like you're
Speaker 1: a footian, I I am decided, well, I I don't
Speaker 1: eat crabs, but the one time I came close to
Speaker 1: trying it, I had a girlfriend, uh, and her family
Speaker 1: lived very nice family lived in the Baltimore area, but
Speaker 1: our relationship was on very rocky soil, to say the least,
Speaker 1: and we went out in the Baltimore area to have
Speaker 1: crab cakes at least they were, and I was gonna
Speaker 1: maybe try one, and we had quite a few beers
Speaker 1: in us. We were young, early twenties, and she kept
Speaker 1: referring to me, well, now I suld twice mistakenly referred
Speaker 1: to me by the name of her ex boyfriend in
Speaker 1: front of her family, and so which was that was
Speaker 1: a well, it was the first thing was a micro
Speaker 1: cosm of everything else that was happening, I think. But
Speaker 1: on top of it, I was like, I don't like
Speaker 1: crab cakes, I don't like Baltimore. I don't I'm getting
Speaker 1: out of this situation, so let's get out of this
Speaker 1: your missed. I had a somewhat similar situation with a
Speaker 1: with a name uh faux Pa. This was shortly after
Speaker 1: getting out of my college relationship, which carried into post college,
Speaker 1: and I was going on a Valentine's day date with
Speaker 1: a young woman in the Hoboken the city of Hoboken,
Speaker 1: home of Mike Garoffalo Garfolo. Excuse me, and um, I
Speaker 1: accidentally called the date my ex girlfriend's name as we're
Speaker 1: leaving the restaurant. It was a little drunk. I think
Speaker 1: that's accurate. Finally, you're missing out on crab cakes. By
Speaker 1: the way, give me a break, it's delicious. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Mark, you you missed the show Monday, you said,
Speaker 1: or just steam crab or whatever you had you had
Speaker 1: a stomach bug, Mark, And I just want to ask,
Speaker 1: Le's be honest, did have anything to do with your
Speaker 1: Tom Brady diet. No, had not had a I'm just examining.
Speaker 1: I'm just doing those once in a while. Had not
Speaker 1: had one of those in that book. I I will
Speaker 1: dig in more on this topic later, but it's I
Speaker 1: think it's getting uh too much press for being ultra
Speaker 1: weird when it's really just essentially not as weird as
Speaker 1: I thought it would be. And finally, no, don't try
Speaker 1: to link it to that injury's out. The jury is
Speaker 1: not out. There's no jury up, you know, attending to
Speaker 1: this case, I had not eaten that I had probably
Speaker 1: nine eels after having a Tom bradymeal. That was like,
Speaker 1: they've been very good. That was like the equivalent of
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby's defense team. It was like, we're gonna call
Speaker 1: one witness and we want to settle our defense in
Speaker 1: fourteen minutes. Why on earth are you drawing a parallel
Speaker 1: to that? Of all things? Hey, when I could draw
Speaker 1: a parallel directly from Tom Brady to Bill Cosby, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it. Finally in the end around whoa Ben
Speaker 1: McAdoo got a haircut. Whoa everybody see this Ben mcado Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw it. Whoa Uh? Ben went he had very
Speaker 1: strange haircut last year with the Giants. Let's just put
Speaker 1: it that way. It was it was kind of like
Speaker 1: there was no way to really make sense of it.
Speaker 1: It was like too short and too long, and it
Speaker 1: looked faked, but but then obviously real. Uh, it looked
Speaker 1: like it was comb but then it looked kind of messy.
Speaker 1: It was a strange do So what did he do?
Speaker 1: He just he pulled in the sides a little bit,
Speaker 1: he got tight on the sides, threw it to the back,
Speaker 1: grew it out a little bit, and combed it to
Speaker 1: the back and all the green so you can handle
Speaker 1: and now he's got like a pat Riley look. Thought, well,
Speaker 1: hold on, what Greg, have you seen the I mean
Speaker 1: pat Riley own that look he this is I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he looks as good because bat pat Riley pulled
Speaker 1: it off to pat Riley didn't shave the sides though.
Speaker 1: It's to me, it's very weird. It's just weird. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry he was. He was asked about it. The Prescott
Speaker 1: got a surprising amount of buzz, or maybe not surprising
Speaker 1: considering the market. He was asked if he had been
Speaker 1: getting any uh, you know, slack from team the team
Speaker 1: it's striking. Yeah, they've been pushing me, so I gotta
Speaker 1: keep it fresh, right. I just think it was the
Speaker 1: right move though even if this maybe you're he's not
Speaker 1: there yet. He had to move away from that prior cut.
Speaker 1: I think the next thing is the goatee. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: this one is also among NFL hair head coach haircuts.
Speaker 1: I would say, still the weirdest it is. It is strange.
Speaker 1: It is just maybe it would look good on like
Speaker 1: a nineteen year old, but for some reason, on on mcadood,
Speaker 1: who is about the most serious like him, and his
Speaker 1: old boss Mike McCarthy are probably the two like least
Speaker 1: like most humorouss guys in front of a pot, they're
Speaker 1: just so serious, like they're serious about they're serious about everything.
Speaker 1: And then he steps up with that haircut, which is
Speaker 1: not and you're operating with a mustache at the same time,
Speaker 1: and you have to go to well, it's it's it
Speaker 1: is goatee, but he's he's taken some off the chin.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm looking at a photo here, it's you.
Speaker 1: I have to say, I can't get a feel on
Speaker 1: Ben McAdoo like who he is as a person, what's
Speaker 1: going on, like what makes him a head coach. He
Speaker 1: is one of the most confounding head coach. Is not
Speaker 1: in a good or bad way. I can remember in
Speaker 1: a long long time. Well, he's just coming off on
Speaker 1: eleven and five season in a playoff. Uh, I would
Speaker 1: grow out the sides a little bit. I agree, that's
Speaker 1: a little off putting. And then I would either lose
Speaker 1: the goatee or grow in a full beard. And I'm
Speaker 1: telling you'll do a lot. I would go full beard
Speaker 1: because he's you know on these coaches that well I
Speaker 1: don't he doesn't have a and he's not exactly like
Speaker 1: the Bill Coward like chin he's operating with either. So
Speaker 1: I grow up big beard and like and take a
Speaker 1: little density off the top of butted Bernard blow to No.
Speaker 1: I think he's how you absolutely have you have something
Speaker 1: to work with here, but you I think the beard
Speaker 1: is a good idea. That's what's happening in the news.
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Speaker 1: hit it. Uh. This this broke right before you went away.
Speaker 1: And um and it's kind of a touchy situation, let's
Speaker 1: face it, because not too touchy. It's old news two
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Well that's why we showed respect. Wait, we
Speaker 1: waited for you to get back because I thought it
Speaker 1: was important for you to be in the room for
Speaker 1: this discussion, which is Miko Grimes came after you real hard.
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking Bunser Bunsen burner, blowtorch to the maximum,
Speaker 1: all about a column that Greg wrote. Uh, and I'll
Speaker 1: start here. And I know Greg, you you expressed to
Speaker 1: me privately that you don't really want to dwell on this.
Speaker 1: But I think let's at least at least touch on
Speaker 1: what this is. Because Greg wrote in a column a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and I'll read it verbatim here
Speaker 1: in the in the Grimes Media power rankings, Miko topped
Speaker 1: Brent last season for headlines, despite Brent turning in one
Speaker 1: of the most randomly dominant seasons ever for an aging quarterback.
Speaker 1: Expecting Grimes to back that up at thirty four years
Speaker 1: old is unfair, and the Bucks are very thin after
Speaker 1: their starters at the position. This team will be targeted
Speaker 1: in a hass happy division. Now, Mark, that's fair criticism,
Speaker 1: is it? I don't even think it's criticism. If anything,
Speaker 1: he's lifting up Brent Grimes, and he Brent Crimes should
Speaker 1: be happy about what Greg wrote about Brent Grimes. Michael
Speaker 1: Grimes not so sure where she comes in here, all right,
Speaker 1: I will even say I will even take this. Uh
Speaker 1: and again, Greg not totally comfortable talking about this, but
Speaker 1: me for it either, But I will the other My
Speaker 1: My point is, in Greg's defense, why don't you and
Speaker 1: I break down this the whole thing in my and
Speaker 1: my thoughts on this. Greg's little quip that got him
Speaker 1: on her radar that Miko top Rent in the season
Speaker 1: for headlines or season that was not even a cheap
Speaker 1: shot because Brent Grimes had a quietly I would say,
Speaker 1: I was trying to point out he he had a
Speaker 1: great season, of course, and uh under the radar, and
Speaker 1: she was in the headlines a lot. I mean this
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I mean there was there.
Speaker 1: We don't need to go through it how but she,
Speaker 1: you know, we've heard of Miko Grimes, She's been in
Speaker 1: the headlines. I got this information literally when they called
Speaker 1: my boarding group to get on my plane and I
Speaker 1: was had one you know, Toddler in one hand and
Speaker 1: the other in the other hand, and Jeff Darlington or
Speaker 1: old colleague, texted me this and I actually thought, this
Speaker 1: is that the timing could not be more perfect, because
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be disconnected and off Twitter, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to be. If I was here, I would have
Speaker 1: been sitting there reading my mentions and all of this
Speaker 1: uh stuff all day. But I am someone I I
Speaker 1: have a really strong feeling of nothing bothers me more
Speaker 1: than when you see like a media figure going back
Speaker 1: and forth with another media figure on Twitter. To me,
Speaker 1: it is the most obnoxious thing in the world. So
Speaker 1: I don't so, yeah, that's why I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk because I don't have no need to be part.
Speaker 1: No one gains from that. No one gains from going
Speaker 1: back and forth. Now, and I and I kind of thought,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm a fan. I kind of think
Speaker 1: you know me Grimes. It's funny if I there was
Speaker 1: there was one line where she said something about you know,
Speaker 1: my two me and my two gees, and I mean
Speaker 1: it kind of just cracked me up on some level.
Speaker 1: I was just delighted and then just wanted to move on. Um.
Speaker 1: Actually the tweet is not on this page. What was it?
Speaker 1: It was? By the way, I will say this, if
Speaker 1: you if you do a search for ms Grimes on
Speaker 1: on Google, the first entry is Miko Grimes Wicky, the
Speaker 1: second is Grimes Greg Rosenthal. You're it's honestly, well it's recent, yes, well,
Speaker 1: it's it's impactful. It's also I I do remember it roughly.
Speaker 1: It was something to do with the like the bull,
Speaker 1: the bull two G double G s in his name
Speaker 1: he's a ot a G. It was funny and if
Speaker 1: I didn't work for the Shield, I would have immediately
Speaker 1: changed my Twitter profile to you know, quote, he's not
Speaker 1: a G. That's I mean, that's There were there were
Speaker 1: many shots that there was the one that got on
Speaker 1: West's radar last week about how she pointed out the
Speaker 1: number of followers and she called you, ah, well, I
Speaker 1: appreciated that she was like, she was pointing out, like
Speaker 1: how many followers. I had almost like, hey, this guy, Uh,
Speaker 1: why are you all following this blank dork? She said,
Speaker 1: you can't appreciate that. Come on, I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: like you're going too easy on her. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's because you don't want the war to continue,
Speaker 1: but we even I was so excited about that. I
Speaker 1: was disappointed that Greg didn't want to, uh launch a
Speaker 1: counter offensive. We had Little Debbie on retainer, ready to
Speaker 1: let out a dish track. We were ready to drop
Speaker 1: a major dish tract on Miko Grimes, who, according to
Speaker 1: one of her tweets, listens to the show. Sure, honey, uh,
Speaker 1: there's a way she listens to the show. But because
Speaker 1: we were respecting Greg's wishes, because he was the one
Speaker 1: directly involved with this beef, this big side of beef,
Speaker 1: this flame mignon beef that a podcast host dreams about. Uh,
Speaker 1: one of the people on the show being involved with
Speaker 1: I gotta defer to Greg and we can't. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did see that. Well it didn't stop you from
Speaker 1: including it in some show the greatest NFL Feuds of
Speaker 1: all time? And I was like, what have I been involved?
Speaker 1: I've been involved this well podcast episode last to what
Speaker 1: we do. But how is it if I've actually been
Speaker 1: in some NFL media feuds in this building that will
Speaker 1: stay unnamed. In my time here, this was not a feud.
Speaker 1: I have not been involved in this feud whatsoever. I
Speaker 1: think you know why we did that? Well, we all
Speaker 1: we were fixing for a fight. Let's be honest, we
Speaker 1: were ready to go to war. It would have been
Speaker 1: very different if I was here and we were doing
Speaker 1: the podcast that day. The whole thing would play out,
Speaker 1: would play it differently. But now you know, you know, Frankly, Frankly,
Speaker 1: I don't. Yes, I don't think Greg has been gracious
Speaker 1: enough without loyal we were to him, and how we
Speaker 1: went went to bad form or ready to go to
Speaker 1: war with this mad woman. Yeah, we and he's just
Speaker 1: acting like it's something that should have been assumed. And
Speaker 1: that's a fair point. Did you appreciate West was was
Speaker 1: fired up? And I appreciate you guys all having my back.
Speaker 1: Your boy tweeted stand with Miko, Well what is that about?
Speaker 1: I mean that's his thing. Yeah, he had a couple
Speaker 1: and yeah, one of him was hashtag. I stayed with me.
Speaker 1: I will say this although I multiple times like we
Speaker 1: respond to people and say yes. Obviously with Greg, I
Speaker 1: did not go so far as to include Grime. Michael
Speaker 1: Grimes is Twitter handle. I didn't want to deal with her,
Speaker 1: Nico Grimes, whatever her name is. I did not want
Speaker 1: to deal with her on any level. So that's where
Speaker 1: my loyalty, you know, hit a wall to some degree.
Speaker 1: Never before. If I wanted uh R j VP to
Speaker 1: come back as much as I do after this happened,
Speaker 1: we could get you to listen to your first episode.
Speaker 1: I might plug in if we come back for the Miko.
Speaker 1: If you do it, Shadowy Lake figures I would. I
Speaker 1: would listen to Wait. So you go after them, but
Speaker 1: you'll go after the woman that called you a with
Speaker 1: no g S or whatever. I mean, it's all, it's
Speaker 1: all uh, it's so busy, you know, just one gigantic
Speaker 1: roaming bit. All right, So I believe it to be
Speaker 1: a missed opportunity, but I respect I knew you would.
Speaker 1: I knew you would because I thought it would have
Speaker 1: been not only would it have been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: We're still talking about it here five minutes. No, but
Speaker 1: I really wanted that little Debbie distract. That's well, she'll
Speaker 1: be disappointed, and I'm gonna have to reach out to her,
Speaker 1: to her now, right because we you know, back and
Speaker 1: forth probably fourteen to fifteen texts, arranging, changed schedules. She
Speaker 1: was very excited to appear on behalf of this effort.
Speaker 1: So you know, we've disappointed little Debbie. That's where my
Speaker 1: concern I'm starting to be again. It's a problem one.
Speaker 1: That's another example of how we had mobalized on Greg's behalf.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, but we're different. But we're different humans.
Speaker 1: You would react? Are you tell me this? Often? You don't.
Speaker 1: You say I'm somehow uh not human, which is ridiculous human.
Speaker 1: But I that I react to things differently. Maybe this
Speaker 1: is one of them that you know that's that's why
Speaker 1: we're respecting it, right, and I and I and I
Speaker 1: like speaking for and handling myself too. I pretty I
Speaker 1: love that you guys uh stuck up for me. But
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna say handle it how I want
Speaker 1: to handle it. And now here's the world premiere of
Speaker 1: Little ws Go just kidding, all right, all right, let's
Speaker 1: move on until how about this if she comes after you?
Speaker 1: Actually she kept coming out to Greg, uh days and
Speaker 1: days after this, but if something else happened, there is
Speaker 1: something I don't know. There is something I like in
Speaker 1: these situations when when people just don't respond. Hey, you
Speaker 1: were the bigger man, Greg, She's not technically a man,
Speaker 1: so he is. You were the bigger human, very human.
Speaker 1: You showed it with this. All right, let's move on.
Speaker 1: Uh what It's okay, though, Little Debbi's gonna be crushed.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to deal with that after work. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm getting out of here as soon as the show ends,
Speaker 1: and I I'm I'm going right into a bus nest.
Speaker 1: Bad news. The show is never going to end. I've learned.
Speaker 1: Is like my friendship with Dan, you know, matters, and
Speaker 1: it's nice, but it's not as important to him as
Speaker 1: the show. You know, I resent that that is a
Speaker 1: that is a theme that is thrown around here. Of
Speaker 1: course it's important to me. But I guess we are
Speaker 1: different in the sense that a complete evisceration of this
Speaker 1: Migo Grimes persona from a very popular NFL podcast going
Speaker 1: after her hard, that would have been to me not
Speaker 1: only entertaining but also a show of you know, brotherhood. Well,
Speaker 1: that's where we're different. By Cell Hold on Mini camp narratives. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is the final week of mini camps before the
Speaker 1: NFL's dark period, so we decided to check in on
Speaker 1: some of the storylines percolating across the league. And uh,
Speaker 1: and we will share a couple of each and and
Speaker 1: you tell us and we'll all jump in whether we
Speaker 1: buy hold or sell on these storylines. Uh, Mark, why
Speaker 1: don't you get us going? Baby? Well, I know that
Speaker 1: coaches never lie about their quarterback situations and their impending
Speaker 1: quarterback duels. We have one in Denver. We heard about
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph saying he's taken nothing away from may or June.
Speaker 1: That will stick. But Denver Post columnists Mark Hissla, longtime
Speaker 1: writer for the Broncos, how's there's a little report out
Speaker 1: there because Calton quotes obvious that Paxton Lynch's the club
Speaker 1: house leader over Trevor Simeon with in quotes hints everywhere.
Speaker 1: This guy talks to a lot of people. Kissel believes
Speaker 1: the only way Lynch doesn't start as if he messes
Speaker 1: it up, calling Simeon nothing more than the fail safe device.
Speaker 1: I found that a little surprising after what we saw
Speaker 1: from Simeon last year. Are we buying this new leader
Speaker 1: in the clubhouse? According to the Denver Post, I'm selling.
Speaker 1: I'm selling hard on this mark because I believe that Simeon,
Speaker 1: although you guys are bigger fans than I was, I guess,
Speaker 1: but he certainly showed in year one that he was
Speaker 1: somebody that could potentially develop into a proficient starter. And
Speaker 1: and Lynch barely played. And I get it there's pressure
Speaker 1: involved that he's a first round pick, but he was
Speaker 1: not close to already and I feel like it'd be weird,
Speaker 1: uh to go to him as option one. It would
Speaker 1: make more sense to me to go with the guy
Speaker 1: that showed promise that that is in year two, and
Speaker 1: then you bring in Lynch. If Simeon Falters and see
Speaker 1: you can get a spark the other way around. I
Speaker 1: feel like it doesn't make much sense. I'm selling on it.
Speaker 1: I was really surprised to see this report as well, Mark,
Speaker 1: especially because for what it's worth, it at ot as
Speaker 1: it seems it sounded like Lynch wasn't playing. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna buy it anyways, because I kind of trust his
Speaker 1: instincts as someone that's there every day and is talking
Speaker 1: to people, and it echoes something we did talk about
Speaker 1: I think at the beginning of this offseason was the
Speaker 1: tie goes to Lynch. So I think in all things
Speaker 1: being equal, I do believe the front office and the
Speaker 1: coaching staff would like Lynch to win, and and someone
Speaker 1: that's there every day, watching and talking to people, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe that is the truth that Look, if neither one
Speaker 1: of these guys is going to stand out, I I
Speaker 1: don't support it. I really think Simeon deserves a chance.
Speaker 1: But if neither one stands way apart from the other,
Speaker 1: then than Lynch is the favorite. I'm also buying it
Speaker 1: because I trust the reporting. I mean, Kissler has been
Speaker 1: on target for years and years on this stuff, and
Speaker 1: you have a first round investment on a quarterback Simeon
Speaker 1: I think overachieved last year compared to the fact that
Speaker 1: no one knew who he was during that Super Bowl
Speaker 1: week a couple of years ago. But my thing with Lynch,
Speaker 1: it's like all you hear over and over that he's
Speaker 1: still been erratic, he's still been you know, far from
Speaker 1: looking like a guarantee starting quarterback. So you have to
Speaker 1: see what happens. I think there's a lot of room
Speaker 1: for this to change. But if I think you're right,
Speaker 1: if they're even you obviously go with the higher pedigree.
Speaker 1: The plan was to play him in year two, not
Speaker 1: year three. But this is the exact time of year
Speaker 1: where coaches are going to grasp onto anything positive with
Speaker 1: a young player like uh, Paxton Lynch and say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's looking great and you know, and then they're feeding
Speaker 1: that to the media, even a guy that's plugged in
Speaker 1: like this gentleman. Uh. You know. They're really interesting team,
Speaker 1: I think because of their championship pedigree, because they won
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen games a year for four or streight years,
Speaker 1: because a lot of those players are still there. But
Speaker 1: yet they're in this really good division and it could
Speaker 1: go It could go either way. It could go south,
Speaker 1: or they could win the division. Nothing with surprise. All right,
Speaker 1: next up, bye sell or Hold, it's time to start
Speaker 1: talking kickers, Vick or Robbie. This ain't the bachelor Red?
Speaker 1: Whose voice is that? Who's that you? That was Dan?
Speaker 1: That's good, good job slily Uh, Robert, Roberto Aguayo and
Speaker 1: Nick Folk? Of course, of course if you're following this,
Speaker 1: and how can you not be following uh this uh competition,
Speaker 1: there's no holds barred competition. Uh. Nick Folk got out
Speaker 1: to a big early lead when he drilled all his
Speaker 1: kicks in that with the uprights being closer together, and
Speaker 1: then Robbie faltered. This is during O t a s well,
Speaker 1: guess what just when he counted out Robbie, he's back
Speaker 1: in the race. Midway through practice. This according to General
Speaker 1: and of ESPN. Midway through practice, both lined up for
Speaker 1: five attempts, increasing the distance with each kick. Folk went
Speaker 1: first and made his first four attempts. His fifth and
Speaker 1: final kick from fifty four yards away bounced off the
Speaker 1: right goal post. Uya went next. One, give me some dings, Sully, two, three, four,
Speaker 1: and from fifty four yards out five five for five
Speaker 1: baby uh and then I so I want you to
Speaker 1: listen to this quote from Dirk Cutter, who this is
Speaker 1: an interesting thing for someone to say about any competition
Speaker 1: in camp. Roberto got the best of it today. Look good,
Speaker 1: I mean Nick, nick lak good. I think we worked
Speaker 1: back to fifty four yards on that last one and
Speaker 1: uh Nix was a little bit short. Berto Berto hit
Speaker 1: five cleanland. So that's what camp is. Oh, I'm buying, baby,
Speaker 1: that this competition is neck and neck. I am buying right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but don't dad. He is talking about it like like
Speaker 1: he advance. I love that this is a daily thing.
Speaker 1: I am buying it because they have waited so long
Speaker 1: to be able to go to the reporters and say
Speaker 1: something positive about this. It's it reminds me a lot
Speaker 1: of what we just talked about. This is a second
Speaker 1: round draft pick who has been an absolute negative distraction.
Speaker 1: Not a distraction, but in terms of the situation, it's
Speaker 1: a distraction for the Bucks to have to deal with someone.
Speaker 1: It's a high profile, large gaff scenario where he keeps
Speaker 1: missing kicks and games. He's gonna probably maybe not even
Speaker 1: make the team if he continues on the trajectory. So
Speaker 1: I am buying they want to see him succeed. And
Speaker 1: if it were like it's the other one, if it's
Speaker 1: a tie between Robbie and Nick, you go Robbie. You
Speaker 1: know what could happen, by the way, I didn't think
Speaker 1: of us until right now, would be a little uh anticlimactic.
Speaker 1: With hard knocks coming up. They could end up keeping
Speaker 1: both because they're paying Nick anyway a large chunk of money.
Speaker 1: And then you give Robbie the job and then maybe
Speaker 1: have Folks do kickoffs or something. And then if Robbie falters,
Speaker 1: you cut koff the way around what I could see
Speaker 1: that and then and then they get to kind of
Speaker 1: play it by ear because you know, Nick Folk will
Speaker 1: probably get picked up, I would think, because he is
Speaker 1: an accurate veteran, and they don't definitely want to get
Speaker 1: you definitely want to give your second year second round
Speaker 1: kicker a nice red shirt year. That's the position that
Speaker 1: you need to wait till year four or five to
Speaker 1: get the real product, all right, And that was the
Speaker 1: latest Kicker update by the old zuser Folk. Second round
Speaker 1: picks don't always get second chances, Greg. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with all of the o t a a mini camp
Speaker 1: buzz on Adrian Peterson being sky high. When you listen
Speaker 1: to Drew Brees or the Saints talking about Adrian Peterson,
Speaker 1: it has been gushing. It has been we haven't seen
Speaker 1: a guy look this, you know, explosive, you know, players
Speaker 1: marveling over his burst and his stride lengthen and and
Speaker 1: Peterson himself just talking about that. You know, he would
Speaker 1: be lying if you didn't take it his motivation that people,
Speaker 1: you know, think he was kind of done that no
Speaker 1: one wanted to sign him. And it's at the point
Speaker 1: now in New Orleans I think they're the the o
Speaker 1: t A mini camp storylines has raised the excitement and
Speaker 1: the expectation level for Adrian Peterson this year buying and
Speaker 1: I'm not selling because I disrespect Adrian Peterson, and I
Speaker 1: don't want want West to hit me over the head
Speaker 1: with a crowbar because I know he's very high and
Speaker 1: Peter soon this year. But uh, I just think that
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, one of the more famous NFL players in
Speaker 1: the last twenty years, or certainly one of the most celebrated,
Speaker 1: going to a new team and having this fresh start
Speaker 1: and still having something in the tank. I think he
Speaker 1: has something in the tank. Is gonna lead to all this,
Speaker 1: all these type of dispatches in June, which is this
Speaker 1: guy looks better than ever, this guy is amazing, this
Speaker 1: guy is this, this guy is that. And I think
Speaker 1: I still hold true to the point that, uh, he
Speaker 1: was beat up last year he won the rushing title,
Speaker 1: but maybe he didn't have the same burst in his
Speaker 1: younger years the year before. He's thirty two years old.
Speaker 1: I think Peterson will be helpful for them, and I
Speaker 1: think he's going to potentially have another like twelve yard season.
Speaker 1: But do I think that he's going to be Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson the way people are talking about him right now.
Speaker 1: I'm selling on that. Yeah, I'm selling too. I think
Speaker 1: it's the way there's a way to sell on this
Speaker 1: without dismissing Adrian Peterson's upcoming regular season, which which I
Speaker 1: am all so thinking he can be Adrian Peterson of
Speaker 1: that we've seen of late. But the idea that everyone
Speaker 1: is seeing this vastly different player now in these practices,
Speaker 1: that that's what I'm selling on. Well, I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: buying that they're gonna They're talking a lot about that,
Speaker 1: they're gonna throw him the ball and we'll see that
Speaker 1: was one of my potential ones. I don't buy that
Speaker 1: because you already have players in place too. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: see about that, But I am buying it. I just
Speaker 1: think this guy is one of the greatest players we've
Speaker 1: ever seen, and he's playing on the Saints, is the
Speaker 1: main thing. But you're buying that. It's you're buying that
Speaker 1: he looks tangibly different than what the Vikings saw in
Speaker 1: previous maze. That just looks great, That he's that, that
Speaker 1: he can be great, and and and it'll end up
Speaker 1: looking even better than he is because he's on that team. That. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting a little excited about Adrian Peterson new Ry.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fun seeing at the super Dome
Speaker 1: and having this chip on the ship. That's all gonna
Speaker 1: be fun. It's will he be uh the best running
Speaker 1: back in the league still, which is how he's being
Speaker 1: talked up, uh frankly, And I don't know that seems
Speaker 1: to be. I'm gonna get the ball enough for that. Uh.
Speaker 1: Next up, are you buying, selling or holding on Christian
Speaker 1: Hackenburgh's public execution by the local media New York. I
Speaker 1: cannot remember the last time a New York athlete has
Speaker 1: been treated this unfairly. And let me say something. I
Speaker 1: am not. I don't hold high hopes for Christian Hackenburg myself.
Speaker 1: I think that it was obviously a big Gina Smith.
Speaker 1: Yes he yes, he earned everything he got for the
Speaker 1: way he acted, including uh, you know, getting his jaw
Speaker 1: broken for being a jack in the locker room. But
Speaker 1: let's talk about Hackenburg right now. Uh. I know that
Speaker 1: there the reports are bad, the anonymous reports about last season,
Speaker 1: we're bad. But this has been so unfair to this kid.
Speaker 1: What's happened this past week with all the reports, uh
Speaker 1: from real journalists, real sports writers doing reports on these
Speaker 1: path us, is that he's thrown that a bounced and
Speaker 1: hit reporters who by the way, and I am not
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I'm the most mobile human being,
Speaker 1: but let's calm down, like, oh it hit a reporter.
Speaker 1: Maybe reporter is not moving too fast either a little
Speaker 1: slow and isn't able to get out of the way. Uh.
Speaker 1: And this is a situation where he's throwing these passes
Speaker 1: and the Jets have done bad by him because the
Speaker 1: Jets don't know what they're doing right now and they've
Speaker 1: gotten rid of everyone including Eric Decker. So he's throwing
Speaker 1: to a bunch of these kids that nobody knows who
Speaker 1: half these guys are, and a lot of them are
Speaker 1: running bad routes and and so it's hard to really
Speaker 1: discern whether it was a really bad throw or a
Speaker 1: really bad route. But everybody's going ahead because the Jets
Speaker 1: are back to laughing stock status, which is always it
Speaker 1: seems to people kind of like that it's a little
Speaker 1: more fun when the Jets are bad. I get that,
Speaker 1: I understand that, but dragging him and making him the
Speaker 1: face of the Jets being a laughing stock of the
Speaker 1: league again, it just feels unfair and if and I
Speaker 1: worry that it's going to lead to uh him. I
Speaker 1: don't know how mentally strong the kid is, but it's
Speaker 1: going to lead to him having no shot here because
Speaker 1: he can't won't be able to block out just how
Speaker 1: much people believe him to be a joke before he's
Speaker 1: ever thrown an NFL pass. I am holding on Christian
Speaker 1: Hackenburg having any chance in the NFL, although I'm doubting it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold there. But I'm selling on this idea
Speaker 1: that he is so terrible that there's no reason why
Speaker 1: people should even take him seriously as a human being.
Speaker 1: I think it's a perfect place to use the hold
Speaker 1: because we've never seen this guy in a game, and
Speaker 1: some there are practice players, and there are players that
Speaker 1: look totally crazy and practice. Then the games begin and
Speaker 1: you hear about those guys all the time, and often
Speaker 1: it's applies they say to the quarterback position. I think
Speaker 1: there's really concerning reports because there's been a b line
Speaker 1: and last year I don't think Hackenburg was being beaten
Speaker 1: up as the sort of the face of the Jets
Speaker 1: troubles the way he has this this spring, and that
Speaker 1: is unfair. I agree with you there, but there's never
Speaker 1: been like the month or two where it's like, you
Speaker 1: know what, Hackenburg, he showed some real good things today
Speaker 1: and where there actually does seem to some progress or
Speaker 1: he came back looking like a different player. It's been
Speaker 1: a beeline of uh terrifying reports about this this quarterback
Speaker 1: that said, until he's in a game, why judge him
Speaker 1: on what right? You can judge him on his college
Speaker 1: tape where he's one of the most inaccurate quarterbacks to
Speaker 1: ever be drafted in the first three rounds of the
Speaker 1: where he could not where, but but that's it's just
Speaker 1: such a it's such a basic function of playing the position,
Speaker 1: just accuracy. And these are practices where you can't really
Speaker 1: take much away from him because it's supposed to be easy. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's all scripted there. You know, you can't even do
Speaker 1: one on ones. I mean, there's so many restrictions you can't.
Speaker 1: It's really not football, but it's it's built for the
Speaker 1: offense on a lot of these plays to run fairly smoothly.
Speaker 1: And I think the problem he gets picked on because
Speaker 1: there's blood in the water and they just want to
Speaker 1: be vicious. And there's forty reporters there, so you know,
Speaker 1: the people have to say some things to get noticed.
Speaker 1: But it's also because there's no defenders there and he
Speaker 1: and he just misses a lot of throws, which I
Speaker 1: don't think you're normally used to see. Well, a year
Speaker 1: ago it was r G three that was throwing the
Speaker 1: football I don't know in houses and stuff, and so
Speaker 1: maybe and and it went on to be the RG
Speaker 1: three was an absolute but that was r G three
Speaker 1: in steep decline for a period of three years, so
Speaker 1: everyone kind of knew he was done. And then people
Speaker 1: were piling on never even may have no ascension. It's unfair,
Speaker 1: but it's not surprising. I don't even I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what buying nor selling in this one even means. Just
Speaker 1: buying it well, you're a monster. Um, we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens with young Christian Hackenburgh. That's my point. You're a
Speaker 1: once you you're a professional and you're in games and
Speaker 1: you stink. Part of the gig is if you can
Speaker 1: get buried, and that's that's part of the job. But
Speaker 1: before you've done it, That's what I'm saying. It is.
Speaker 1: It is an unbelievably unfair, tough situation to think about
Speaker 1: the fact that these O t A s, which normally
Speaker 1: like is when it cared out about and people are
Speaker 1: doing grades, come back to us. People that have done
Speaker 1: grades on the O t A S, well it is
Speaker 1: it is give me a breakworthy. But I'm sure for
Speaker 1: them it's like you've got to pump out three or
Speaker 1: four stories and this is what they all do. That
Speaker 1: job is a little different than what we're able to
Speaker 1: do with with with with our role, like the good one,
Speaker 1: there's plenty of good ones that don't don't go crazy
Speaker 1: on that stuff. I will not do a secite. I
Speaker 1: have a couple of ones. Yeah you didn't do no,
Speaker 1: but I'm enjoying the it's one of your second ones.
Speaker 1: The Shan Kaiser. No, why don't you take us down
Speaker 1: that road? Then I'll take a similar couple. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: we really gotta Yeah, we're gonta. Let's do a speed round.
Speaker 1: Let's do a speeders. Sean Kaiser getting more buzz as
Speaker 1: a potential starter, and I will just say I am
Speaker 1: buying it. I like what I hear listening to the kid,
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it's really based. It's not
Speaker 1: based on how he's looked. I haven't seen that. It's
Speaker 1: just based on I think the Browns are giving him
Speaker 1: a real chance. I think they want him to have
Speaker 1: a real chance to win this job. Until I'm buying.
Speaker 1: I'm buying too, because the Browns, like the Jets and
Speaker 1: all other teams that are looking ahead to that loaded
Speaker 1: quarterback class, they need to find out what they have
Speaker 1: in Deshaun Kazer before they decide whether they want to
Speaker 1: draft another quarterback early in the first round. So they
Speaker 1: got to find out. Yeah, tweeted this morning, I think
Speaker 1: he'll be the Week one starter, and it's not I'm
Speaker 1: not at their practice, but it just seems like this
Speaker 1: sort of trending that way. If he is competent and
Speaker 1: so totally buying it, Mark all Right, A lot of Niners.
Speaker 1: A lot of people think the Niners are gonna be
Speaker 1: big trash heap next year, or maybe just a little
Speaker 1: bit better. But there is a part of their defense.
Speaker 1: I think that defensive line is interesting to Forrest Buckner
Speaker 1: said that our front seven can be dominant this year.
Speaker 1: If you look at the pieces in place, there is
Speaker 1: potential buying, selling or holding. Why would you hold here?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold because then you do it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hold because I do think if you look at all
Speaker 1: the pieces there, they got a lot of players like
Speaker 1: they're gonna cut some pretty good players there, So I
Speaker 1: think they could be down by there's the first time coordinator,
Speaker 1: Robert Sala. It's a lot of moving parts in different
Speaker 1: spots than they were really drafted for. So I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: but I think there's a potential. I guess that means
Speaker 1: I'm buying it. I'm selling the two thousand seventeen might
Speaker 1: be better, but they won't be dominant at any French, Dominant,
Speaker 1: Eric Armstead, Solomon, A lot of people Solomon Thomas would
Speaker 1: come out as the best dominant. He said, dominant. It'll
Speaker 1: be fine, Okay, Buckner, Thomas, Armstead, Navarro Bowman, Ruben Foster.
Speaker 1: That's fine, they'll be fine. Sexy could be dominant. Well
Speaker 1: you're buying, so yeah, all right, that's it. By the way,
Speaker 1: mark before we go, I want to make sure, um,
Speaker 1: we'll give you the stage for a second here, because
Speaker 1: you wanted to get something out there. It isn't it
Speaker 1: isn't exactly a or you kidding me, But it's sub
Speaker 1: that you wanted to get off your chest. Nor is
Speaker 1: it critical, nor is it critical or is it news?
Speaker 1: But I would think everyone wants to hear what you
Speaker 1: you want to talk about. I was wandering around the
Speaker 1: building today and I don't know who this person was
Speaker 1: because they work on a different floor. It seems like
Speaker 1: a nice person in general, but it was a a
Speaker 1: late thirty early forties something male who used the in
Speaker 1: conversation the term awesome sauce and it's it kind of
Speaker 1: is another one of these phrases that a if you're
Speaker 1: if you're that person, you shouldn't ever be using that
Speaker 1: phrase at all, sit down, exactly, find a new way
Speaker 1: to say what you're about to say. Grow up, Peter
Speaker 1: Pan exactly. You're you're so far out of where you
Speaker 1: need to be by using that. But then there's a
Speaker 1: couple other phrases that came to mind that as we
Speaker 1: get into the summer, and this is when this jargon
Speaker 1: starts to light up. Sometimes it's time to put some
Speaker 1: of this to bed. And this is this is a
Speaker 1: language update, and people don't have to agree with me,
Speaker 1: but I'm not going to be using this word, these words,
Speaker 1: these phrases. Yes, Queen, that is old. Now enough we
Speaker 1: get it. Okay, this was nice a few months ago,
Speaker 1: yas queen, no longer burying it whatever months years. I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about it again. That is gone.
Speaker 1: How about this tote? How about this totes? As in it?
Speaker 1: You know, doesn't that suck? Gemma? Yeah? Totes? Well no, no,
Speaker 1: done more totes. I feel like that's a big sell.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of these terms are gonna
Speaker 1: be sully terms. Well, no, don't throw me under the bus.
Speaker 1: You can. You can weigh in after I'm finished that
Speaker 1: totes is out? Anyone, all right? Anyone, and this most
Speaker 1: people are aware that they're not Coolio, It's there are
Speaker 1: still I still hear this sometimes. I still think I
Speaker 1: still hear it once in a while, and it's typically
Speaker 1: from white males, and it's un ironically used and it
Speaker 1: needs to stop right now, Julio is like, no one
Speaker 1: talked about sense the higher learning. I think that of
Speaker 1: the population understands this rule. But I have heard it
Speaker 1: in the streets of l A. It was the dangerous minds. Okay,
Speaker 1: am I right? When it's spelled this one word? Enough
Speaker 1: with that? All right? Yeah, it wasn't funny then not funny.
Speaker 1: Now it's not even helping. It's not even that much
Speaker 1: shorter when you're typing Bay, okay, saying things like Greg
Speaker 1: is Bay. That was stupid to begin with and I'm
Speaker 1: not into that, and I don't Bay are correct. It's
Speaker 1: used in many different ways. You can I think it's
Speaker 1: you can find that that you can salt bay. That
Speaker 1: usage is right, It is correct. Yes, thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: because I when I read this, this absolutely thank This
Speaker 1: is how I read this stuff sometimes, and it's like
Speaker 1: enough already Greg is a good guy. Greg, It's not Bay.
Speaker 1: I mean alright, anyone's still calling things lit that died
Speaker 1: a hard death in two thousand sixteen, and it gets
Speaker 1: lingering on again, and typically amongst clunky white males, and
Speaker 1: finally a f as in this party is lit as
Speaker 1: Like when that is, I'm done with that terminology and
Speaker 1: writing to Okay, that seems like a millennial shot a
Speaker 1: little bit, I think, although it is dead though, because
Speaker 1: I just saw that on like a billboard for like
Speaker 1: an advertisement or maybe a movie using a F and
Speaker 1: and I and I thought seeing that was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's done. That's the same millennials. I'm not killing them
Speaker 1: at all. It's the reverse. They've moved beyond a lot
Speaker 1: of this crap. It's it filters up to the older,
Speaker 1: clunky people still using this phraseology. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if the I'll add one more if you don't mind,
Speaker 1: please do. I like your list a lot. And I
Speaker 1: didn't even know this was a thing, but on Friday
Speaker 1: in my neighborhood, you know, you put out the garbage
Speaker 1: cans on Thursday night and then the trash guy comes
Speaker 1: on Friday and there's three different pickups. You got the
Speaker 1: trash can? Uh, Jack knows it is that that's where
Speaker 1: the stinky diapers go. And then you get the blue bin,
Speaker 1: which is for recyclables in the green bin um for
Speaker 1: you know, tree clippings and things of that nature. And
Speaker 1: for the first time ever, the guy didn't come to
Speaker 1: pick up the black bin, which is the most important
Speaker 1: bin of the three is number one. You gotta take
Speaker 1: away the black bin with the stinky diapers. Uh. So
Speaker 1: I all the Sanitation Department of Los Angeles and I said, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm angry af come come get my garbage can. And
Speaker 1: they were They were cool about it, and they came by.
Speaker 1: They said, oh, we'll be there on Tuesday. So I
Speaker 1: saw the other black can in my neighbor said next
Speaker 1: next next door still out there, said oh, you know,
Speaker 1: shoot this guy little heads up, say hey, Lee, don't
Speaker 1: bring your canon. They're gonna come on tuesday. And he
Speaker 1: came out. He's like, oh, thanks, Bro, thanks a lot,
Speaker 1: thanks for the knowledge. Oh no, maybe just maybe that's
Speaker 1: not maybe that's not a thing. And he's just a
Speaker 1: little but he doesn't know how to pronounce knowledge. He
Speaker 1: just never knew that the that the k was silence
Speaker 1: around our age again, it's a round our age. No, no, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. I'm sure he's not listening to the show.
Speaker 1: Hopefully too. But yeah, that's that's a troubling one. Knowledge.
Speaker 1: It's like something Andy Bernard would say on the office.
Speaker 1: So if that's the thing that other people are doing,
Speaker 1: probably you know, don't lean into that one anymore. Okay, Jesus,
Speaker 1: there's a long podcast. All right. We'll be back on Friday.
Speaker 1: Will be our last UM show the week obviously, but
Speaker 1: also the last time we'll do three shows until minicamps,
Speaker 1: so we'll have some fun. What's so funny? Oh? Is there?
Speaker 1: I looked up it. I looked it up on Urban Dictionary,
Speaker 1: and I do have to use um the example that
Speaker 1: that they wrote for it. Did you know that Shanna
Speaker 1: slept with Haven and got her pies? Thanks for the
Speaker 1: car knowledge? I almost did here. That all checks out.
Speaker 1: I guess I'll give them a little credit that it's
Speaker 1: showing up on Urban Dictionary. Oh, there's a lot on
Speaker 1: urban See that's a perfect time for that to be
Speaker 1: a popular word. All right, we will be back on Friday.
Speaker 1: As I said, uh, make sure give me one second
Speaker 1: or something. Make sure you uh continue to leave comments
Speaker 1: and star ratings for the podcast. That means a lot
Speaker 1: to keep us moving up the old charts over on iTunes.
Speaker 1: They have a very strange system, but that means a lot.
Speaker 1: So thank you and those of us, those of you
Speaker 1: that have reached out to me, say what happened to
Speaker 1: the five thousand listeners celebration or five thousand the redditor celebration.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that once we get to the dark period. Uh,
Speaker 1: we will uh you know, finish off that contest. We'll
Speaker 1: find out some type of prize. So don't worry. It's
Speaker 1: not it has not slipped through the cracks. Right around
Speaker 1: the time that we filed donations for the forked teams
Speaker 1: that we were incorrect about exactly, well, yeah, we'll get
Speaker 1: to that too. Uh So there you go. All right.
Speaker 1: So well he's like, get I'm happy Sully came back. Okay,
Speaker 1: stand hands is signing off for the Sizzler. Uh, the
Speaker 1: Old Boss and Shawny Sullivan Invincible behind the Glass till
Speaker 1: Friday