Speaker 1: Do you Around the NFL podcast is king in the North.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus and I am joined by
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Colleen Wolf and
Speaker 1: Greg Rosittal. What's up, team, It's a different open for
Speaker 1: you today. That was I messed with the cadence a
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, and it was a test actually to
Speaker 1: see if you guys, now as we are entering the
Speaker 1: dark period of the NFL calendar, are you still sharp
Speaker 1: or you're kicking your legs up and not paying attention.
Speaker 1: Gold stars for everybody's thanks, Skip. I mean, the managing
Speaker 1: doesn't stop on the softball field. I kind of would
Speaker 1: like the managing to stop. After our team blew a
Speaker 1: tend to lead and I walk off eleven ten loss
Speaker 1: for the shield, which dropped us to four and four,
Speaker 1: very disappointing. I will be making some moves. I will
Speaker 1: be making some changes. We this is good. It's actually
Speaker 1: like when you bench your quarterback, but you wait until
Speaker 1: your bye weeks coming up, so you give the guy
Speaker 1: coming in two weeks to get up to speed with
Speaker 1: the offense and get comfortable. We have our by uh,
Speaker 1: coming up our final bye of the season, and there
Speaker 1: will be changes in the lineup. Are you going to
Speaker 1: announce them here on the pod? Uh? No, out of
Speaker 1: respect for the people involved, they want to have some
Speaker 1: private conversations. And uh if if you have any other
Speaker 1: questions about what's going on with the team, it's it's open. Well.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you one? Yeah, you blow a tend
Speaker 1: to lead? Yes? Um, Again, I don't want you to
Speaker 1: name necessarily name people you can if you'd like, But
Speaker 1: what did anyone stand out as sort of a you know,
Speaker 1: the scapegoat in that situation? You know, Mark, it is
Speaker 1: a it's a team game, and and I don't think
Speaker 1: there was anyone. If you're looking for your you're looking
Speaker 1: at hang goat horns and I'm just asking. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to ask the question. I understand that's part
Speaker 1: of the job. It's part of my job. But we
Speaker 1: lost as a team, just like we win as a
Speaker 1: team and we lost as a team. Anything else, how's
Speaker 1: the mood in the clubhouse? Like with the record now?
Speaker 1: I mean rough, Um, I don't think anybody really cares.
Speaker 1: That's a problem. I care. You know, there's no other
Speaker 1: people that care. Do you care? I care very much.
Speaker 1: I care too much, in fact um, But as long
Speaker 1: as the cooler is filled with beers, I think everyone
Speaker 1: else moves on pretty quickly. On our team, I'll put
Speaker 1: it that way, and that maybe that's part of the problem.
Speaker 1: Maybe we have a culture issue. Maybe that's part of this.
Speaker 1: Last question, well, last question, because there was a lot
Speaker 1: of I got to have one more, a lot of
Speaker 1: celebration coming off of last last year's amazing championship victory.
Speaker 1: Was the attitude coming into this season the correct one? Well,
Speaker 1: the attitude by the team? Where it was the where
Speaker 1: was the team? You know, humble enough? Were they saying
Speaker 1: this is a new season? Where post do I believe
Speaker 1: that there might have been We're over a little bit
Speaker 1: from disease of more a little bit. Yes, there's been
Speaker 1: some issues. I've had to put out a lot of
Speaker 1: fires this season. We're missing some people. The most important
Speaker 1: player for me is Chris Westling, who is not only
Speaker 1: uh my third baseman and my leading hitter last season,
Speaker 1: but also my don Zimmer. He's my consigliari. Uh So
Speaker 1: not having him to strategize, which that's that's that's been
Speaker 1: very difficult. So I think not there Connie Fox hasn't
Speaker 1: been there to order Postmates beer orders from left center field,
Speaker 1: so there's been a lot of issues. Greg has been
Speaker 1: I didn't want to call a surprise, but Greg has
Speaker 1: been a nice player for us this season and has
Speaker 1: definitely helped us every game I've seen. Greg has been Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if people, if people want to pass my words
Speaker 1: and try to spend this into me saying Greg's the problem,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Greg Rose was doing a great job out there,
Speaker 1: and UM, we'll get back on track to root for
Speaker 1: you guys next week. It's a bye week. I got
Speaker 1: you well done, all right, And that concludes the Shield
Speaker 1: Press Conference. Four and four. We are a game out.
Speaker 1: We are a game out of the playoffs with four
Speaker 1: to play, so we'll keep you updated there. Today's show
Speaker 1: is a good one. Uh, Mini camps are over. As
Speaker 1: I said, this is the dark period, So what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do is, uh, we're gonna pose some unsolved mysteries
Speaker 1: as we enter the National Football leagues Dark. I want
Speaker 1: to see you do the drums again for this. What
Speaker 1: a show? Um, and Greg, you know I don't like to,
Speaker 1: you know, get on you too much about the you
Speaker 1: were born in age thirty two. But when you told
Speaker 1: us during our meeting before the show that you had
Speaker 1: never seen an episode of Unsolved Mysteries as a man
Speaker 1: born in nineteen nine, which would have put you that's
Speaker 1: a show for fifty and sixty year old. I watched it.
Speaker 1: I'm watching MTV as a kid. Well that's an opinion,
Speaker 1: because I enjoyed it immensely at age like sixteen years old.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I don't think that makes me look
Speaker 1: that makes me old that I'm watching different shows other
Speaker 1: than that you've never seen. If you were like a
Speaker 1: teenager in the early nineties and you never saw a
Speaker 1: single episode of Unsolved Mysteries, that was like one of
Speaker 1: like a go to, like scary show for that generation
Speaker 1: for years and years, I thought I was going to
Speaker 1: spontaneously combust after seeing one. Yeah, so what so are
Speaker 1: we working into the theory? It was like two thousand
Speaker 1: one when and Gregg came out of the like cryogenic
Speaker 1: freeze at thirty two years old. What was the year
Speaker 1: you think it happened? Right before their Patriots first to
Speaker 1: My Mom Left podcast. They'll take offense that all of
Speaker 1: those tough years of child rearing, that's not fair for her.
Speaker 1: That is not fair at all. Sorry, Deb, all right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. Shout out to Deb. Alright. So yes, well
Speaker 1: we'll break down the unsaved mysteries. Were also going to
Speaker 1: get um uh Mike Garifolo on the phone. He's been
Speaker 1: bouncing around many camps UH this week, including a trip
Speaker 1: to Tampa. And you know how excited I am about
Speaker 1: what's going on in Tampa, Uh, specifically in the Special
Speaker 1: Team's room, almost exclusively pretty much about what's going on
Speaker 1: in that Special Team's room. So we'll talk to Mike
Speaker 1: about the bucks, about the Special Team's room, and about
Speaker 1: anything else that he came across this week, and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna do some news, and to do that, we
Speaker 1: gotta check behind the glass. There he is again. He
Speaker 1: survived a trip to Mexico where eighty thou people wanted
Speaker 1: him underground, but here he is behind the glass, still
Speaker 1: still walking along, walking tall fellas. And we don't want
Speaker 1: to paint all all people of Mexico with the same
Speaker 1: brush like everyone wanted to kill Sully. I'm just going
Speaker 1: by the brush that that Sully painted of the I
Speaker 1: did not paint that I I quote said that it
Speaker 1: was a great time down in Mexico other than Game Day,
Speaker 1: but Happy Friday. Guys haven't done a Friday show in
Speaker 1: at a long time. It's fun to do a Friday show.
Speaker 1: And Sally is a good time guy. So when you
Speaker 1: have Sally behind the glass on a Friday morning, we're flying.
Speaker 1: So it's just news. Felician. What was that? I feel
Speaker 1: kind of bad because on the last show, you know,
Speaker 1: we called out certain phrases, uh you know, jargon slang
Speaker 1: that we thought it definitely reached their expiration date. And
Speaker 1: I was it was came to my attention over Twitter
Speaker 1: that on a recent move the Sticks podcast, awesome sauce
Speaker 1: had come out of your mouth, Sully. So it was
Speaker 1: not that you were not the unidentified white male that
Speaker 1: I that I overheard context. We were talking about Dreamline
Speaker 1: Barbecue and I said they have awesome sauce. That's the
Speaker 1: person that's a context issue from the person you're not
Speaker 1: even on the radar. I know who that guy is.
Speaker 1: He's a he's a loser. He does a podcast with
Speaker 1: one of our former Kent Brown. Oh yes, yes, I've
Speaker 1: been for some reason. He has a beef or an
Speaker 1: extra grind with Oh wait, he's the bartender. He is
Speaker 1: not a loser. He's that is. I love this beef.
Speaker 1: He's the bartender. Cool yeah kind of you know, team
Speaker 1: Noel buck on the radar. I think I could be Wow.
Speaker 1: I like this heat. I like this heat. Yeah. Uh good,
Speaker 1: canoledge there. Let's do some news. Let's start with some
Speaker 1: not so pleasant news in Nealleans, where NFL Network insider
Speaker 1: Ian rapp Report reported that left tackle Toronto Armstead is
Speaker 1: scheduled for surgery on Monday to repair torn labram. Per Rappaport,
Speaker 1: Armstead suffered the injury on Wednesday and had tests on
Speaker 1: Thursday that confirmed a torn labram. The timetable for Armstead's
Speaker 1: rehab is four to six months, which is the second
Speaker 1: time in UH two shows that we've heard that timetable,
Speaker 1: which again put you either in October or December. And
Speaker 1: uh this Greg Rose with thal is pretty much the
Speaker 1: worst case scenario in these You've got a couple of
Speaker 1: minicamp practices before you go dark and get ready for minicamp,
Speaker 1: and you lose a key part of your team. I
Speaker 1: think he's the second best player on the Saints. I
Speaker 1: mean when he's when he's at his best, he's one
Speaker 1: of the best left tackles in the league. They not
Speaker 1: only are losing, you know, their second best player, they
Speaker 1: have their two best offensive linemen. Everyone's talking about Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson's gonna be running behind this great offensive line who
Speaker 1: played pretty well last year. They're too, of best offensive linemen.
Speaker 1: Toron Armstead and Max Unger are both coming off major injuries,
Speaker 1: so they've they've had a rough offseason in the world.
Speaker 1: I can't think of another team that's taken two big
Speaker 1: injury hits like that. It's a good thing that they
Speaker 1: drafted Ryan Ramchek, but like they're gonna have to pass
Speaker 1: a lot, probably in the starting lineup right away. Very
Speaker 1: very tough situation. They have um uh Andrews Pete, who's
Speaker 1: an option now for them, uh Clif Barnes, but it's
Speaker 1: very grim. Yeah, they they didn't want him. They wanted
Speaker 1: a draft Ruben Foster. Maybe it'll work out, but he's
Speaker 1: coming off a serious injury and he's played one year
Speaker 1: of competitive football at a high level. I mean he
Speaker 1: was a risk, not a risky pick, but a guy
Speaker 1: you really hadn't seen much. Played one year at Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: That that's all, And it feels like a team that's
Speaker 1: gonna need to score about twenty eight points a game
Speaker 1: to you know, get above the eight wind mark. And um,
Speaker 1: just the note if you're curious what the Saints think
Speaker 1: of Tron Armstead. He signed a five year, sixty five
Speaker 1: point five million dollar contract extension last offseason. Moving on,
Speaker 1: let's talk a little Rams and Greg. Listen, Greg, when
Speaker 1: you went uh poking in thousand oakin what was it? Greg?
Speaker 1: Pokes and thousand Oaks? You did make the note and
Speaker 1: it was very perceptive Greg that Greg Robinson, the two
Speaker 1: thousand fourteen number two overall pick of the Rams, was
Speaker 1: not working with the first or second team. Basically, was
Speaker 1: just he was being like a water jockey or something,
Speaker 1: you like, had a couple of snaps maybe with the
Speaker 1: second team, but now he's watching the action. He's just
Speaker 1: standing there with a bunch of other offensive linemen watching. Alright,
Speaker 1: So connect the dots, because a day later the Rams
Speaker 1: the Ramps traded. Dump it on your insider territory. I
Speaker 1: like that. Well, not, we don't have your drop yet.
Speaker 1: We're gonna work on it though, because you've got a
Speaker 1: couple more like these, and you're you can get your own.
Speaker 1: You're in the club. You're in the club all leather,
Speaker 1: uh you know, dark liquor. Thank you very much here
Speaker 1: with the NFL dot com dot com dot com, I
Speaker 1: mean Greg pointed at Sully thinking he was gonna get
Speaker 1: something else there. I think the Ramps traded the offensive
Speaker 1: tackle to the Detroit Lions for a two thousand eighteen
Speaker 1: six around pick. Rap Sheet reported ESPN at first had
Speaker 1: the news, Uh, the Lions have a need at offensive
Speaker 1: tackle after their starter Taylor Decker had a shoulder surgery.
Speaker 1: He is also out that that mystical four to six
Speaker 1: months number. Uh so there's a need for the Lions.
Speaker 1: And I just strange at that exact same time, Table
Speaker 1: popped up two shows in a row for me. I
Speaker 1: don't know why, but um my question, uh Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: is this, when the Rams next play the Redskins, will
Speaker 1: they send out their two thousand eighteen sixth round pick
Speaker 1: for the coin tosses the team capital. It's getting harder
Speaker 1: to uh, you know, do ridiculous on field processions like
Speaker 1: that for the Rams. Maybe they whe all out. Jeff Fisher,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's funny because like in a
Speaker 1: Hannibal electric thing, I mean It's like there are a
Speaker 1: lot of guilty parties here. And you look at what
Speaker 1: they got for that reds in that Redskins trade, and
Speaker 1: there's not much left there really isn't. What is there's
Speaker 1: there's Alec Oldle Tree and who's been a big time
Speaker 1: leader for that team, so that he is. But there
Speaker 1: are eight players in that draft hall and and two
Speaker 1: of them are still active at the On the flip side,
Speaker 1: you know, not to get into with the redskin side,
Speaker 1: but they also they equally botched it, and no one
Speaker 1: really won this. The Rams mightn't even like the Red
Speaker 1: botched it, to be honest with you, Well they botched
Speaker 1: it with how they handled there, looking the results, the result,
Speaker 1: the results that didn't work out, But I thought they
Speaker 1: hit a home run for three months. Well anyway, any
Speaker 1: other thoughts on Greg Robinson? Uh? It does? I mean?
Speaker 1: And Colleen, maybe we're gonna have some time to talk.
Speaker 1: We'll have to break down. You had a special night
Speaker 1: out with a certain NFL official connected to this story
Speaker 1: front office official. But let's let's just well, the whole family,
Speaker 1: the whole family, yes, including including of course John Gonzalez,
Speaker 1: who John Ronald Gonzalez Boar Mars twelve nine is an
Speaker 1: American sports writer. Was married NFL media broadcaster Colleen Woolf. John,
Speaker 1: who was a Pisces, resides in Los Angeles with his
Speaker 1: wife and two dogs. Is that one of the unsolved mysteries?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm this Greg was the theme song that
Speaker 1: posted by Stack. I think I think less need has
Speaker 1: to be pleasantly surprised he got anything for Greg Robinson
Speaker 1: that surprises me. I mean, this guy was a total bust.
Speaker 1: Had a six round pick back, but let's not hand
Speaker 1: out any lollipops. Two thousand fourteen second overall pick turns
Speaker 1: into a two thousand eighteen six round pick. It's about
Speaker 1: as bad as it gets. Lions also picked up cyrus
Speaker 1: Kwon Joe. I mean they, I mean they have a
Speaker 1: bad history. They drafted remember Jason Smith. That's another all
Speaker 1: time number two overall picks way back in the date.
Speaker 1: Michael Floyd's in more trouble and uh well, we'll see.
Speaker 1: We'll see how it plays out. But as of the
Speaker 1: taping of this podcast, TMZ reported Friday that the Vikings
Speaker 1: wide receiver tested positive for alcohol this week. Floyd, as
Speaker 1: you may or may not be aware, is on house
Speaker 1: arrest and prohibited from consuming alcohol at all as part
Speaker 1: of his sentence sentence for an extreme d u i
Speaker 1: UH stemming from an arrest in Arizona in December. Floyd
Speaker 1: was cut by the Cardinals after that arrest, landed with
Speaker 1: the Patriots, got a ring, then signed to the Vikings,
Speaker 1: who want They believe that he can make a big impact.
Speaker 1: But now we don't know what's gonna happen. Rap Sheet
Speaker 1: reported that Floyd is due back in Scottsdale Court on
Speaker 1: June to explain the flagged tech UH tests and UM
Speaker 1: there was a report out there that Floyd stated or
Speaker 1: a rapp report reported that he drank kambucha tea kombucha
Speaker 1: kombucha tea, which explains why the sample contained alcohol. Uh. Mark,
Speaker 1: you are your body is looking tightened right right now.
Speaker 1: A lot of people pointed to a UM black magic
Speaker 1: slash voodoo UH diet that you're on, and kombucha is
Speaker 1: a major part of it, isn't it? Uh? Well, that
Speaker 1: is not true. It isn't our. We do have it
Speaker 1: in a refrigerator though. Are you on a black magic diet? Yes?
Speaker 1: Or no? I'm not. I'm experimenting with the tom Brady Diet,
Speaker 1: black Magic. No, thank you. Yeah, it's it's I think
Speaker 1: in l A. It is. In the last year or two,
Speaker 1: it's gotten extremely popular. I have in my hand right now, Um,
Speaker 1: some kombucha that was gifted to us from by Jeremy
Speaker 1: Bergman burgo down on the desk. Great dude, a real mensch,
Speaker 1: a jets man. Too careful. Just why I shook it
Speaker 1: a little? I was shaking it. Why is it carbon? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want to shake it? What is this thing?
Speaker 1: I've never had kombucha, but burgo An offered it to
Speaker 1: us and do that thing where it's, you know, a
Speaker 1: nice slow. So I'm gonna try it for the first time.
Speaker 1: I have some cups here. Does anybody else wants them?
Speaker 1: I'll trust them. Yeah, drink. There is a low amount
Speaker 1: of alcohol and I have some. Yeah. I did a
Speaker 1: little distilled on our equipment. Is that a problem? So yeah?
Speaker 1: If I'm not part of this, yeah, probably it was
Speaker 1: keep liquids away from him. This looks like and it's
Speaker 1: this might seem a little crest. This looks like the
Speaker 1: urine that after like a long sleep. And and it's
Speaker 1: very dark, very very dark. Pep a lot of toxins
Speaker 1: coming out of you. Here's some dark beer. It says,
Speaker 1: are we drinking on the job? All right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: try it first time ever. Kombucha tastes good. It's delicious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like it? Do you? You are? You're doing your
Speaker 1: best to get as many swallowing sounds as you can
Speaker 1: get into this segment. I can tell ross this side
Speaker 1: of the table wants nothing to do with that. Use
Speaker 1: the button because I know Mark closet me so phony
Speaker 1: I am. I'm out in the open about it. It's
Speaker 1: this is yeah. So it says the alcohol level here
Speaker 1: is point five. Well, yeah, you're right. Here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I I I a site that I UM went to,
Speaker 1: the Phoenix d u I blog. I know we visited
Speaker 1: h but listen to what they wrote. Well, you haven't
Speaker 1: been on that since that's Super Bowl a couple of years.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. It still exists. It says, why does
Speaker 1: this T need to be regulated? It's a It's basically
Speaker 1: saying that you can get a d u I from kombucha.
Speaker 1: TI says, why does this T need to be regulated
Speaker 1: as an alcoholic beverage? Some bottles of kombucha contain more
Speaker 1: than zero point five pc. Some of them do in
Speaker 1: the drink, which is the legal limit for a drink
Speaker 1: to be considered no non alcoholic. For this reason, some
Speaker 1: retail stores like Whole Foods, have removed raw kombucha from
Speaker 1: their stores altogether. Now, if you're downing this stuff hour
Speaker 1: after hour, which if you're Michael Floyd, if this is
Speaker 1: your excuse, you should also have done enough research to
Speaker 1: know that it has a little bit of juice to it.
Speaker 1: A lot of them have warnings at the top, like
Speaker 1: at Whole Foods, they have warnings on the top that
Speaker 1: it contains at it says right here. And he also
Speaker 1: has a high. His blood alcohol level was reported at
Speaker 1: point five five. I don't know. I mean, I'm not
Speaker 1: an exer. You would have to drink a lot of kombucha. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens. And they were it was
Speaker 1: at six in the morning. It was between what have
Speaker 1: you been drinking kombucha all night long? He also denied
Speaker 1: the report though too. I mean, all jokes aside. It's
Speaker 1: sad for him. He was in house arrest for ninety
Speaker 1: six days. He was ninety days into it. And yeah,
Speaker 1: you you worry that he's struggling. The problem if if
Speaker 1: you're if you're not if if this is happening, or
Speaker 1: he's trying to get his probiotics. We'll see. I don't know,
Speaker 1: we'll see, but that could be a problem for the
Speaker 1: major problem for the Vikings, because if a judge is
Speaker 1: not happy with what he learns and not happy with
Speaker 1: the explanation, you can get thrown back in one. One
Speaker 1: quickly unsolved mystery that we won't get too later in
Speaker 1: the show is how long is Michael Floyd gonna be
Speaker 1: suspended for? Because his suspension has not come down from
Speaker 1: the NFL. That's been one of the hanging issues and
Speaker 1: I think they were waiting for this to wrap up,
Speaker 1: and now there's a whole another You think this is
Speaker 1: not gonna help him keep that suspension at a low number.
Speaker 1: Moving on Mark, we wondered if this would be a
Speaker 1: good test for uh, does God hate the Browns? We
Speaker 1: can move away from does God hate Cleveland? Does not
Speaker 1: hate Cleveland? Does he hate the Browns? Miles Garrett limps
Speaker 1: off from a minicamp practice with what was called a
Speaker 1: foot injury. However, rap Sheet reports that uh the left
Speaker 1: foot is reportedly fine. Mary Kay Cabot of The Plain
Speaker 1: Dealer reported that Garrett was still at the team complex
Speaker 1: being evaluated after the pass. Rusher limped off on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: UH no further details, but coach Hugh Jackson said Wednesday
Speaker 1: that is a quote good sign to see Garrett leave
Speaker 1: the field without a trainer. Mark. I know you are
Speaker 1: as plugged in as anybody on what's going on around
Speaker 1: the Browns. Any other juice around this situation. Well, right
Speaker 1: before we got up here, someone tweeted a photo from
Speaker 1: Hopkins International Airport and Cleveland of Miles Garrett Um leaving
Speaker 1: town but in a walking boot. So maybe he in
Speaker 1: general he will be fine by camp. But there's something
Speaker 1: going I don't. Yeah, that is something UM. As a doctor,
Speaker 1: I can tell you no. But I can say that
Speaker 1: that is used as a precautionary measure as much as
Speaker 1: it is for something serious, so that that doesn't necessarily
Speaker 1: tell you what. The Browns haven't said anything moving on
Speaker 1: the Cults. Oh not again. Kristen Michael, who was signed
Speaker 1: by the Cults UM recently has now been placed on
Speaker 1: injured reserve. And you know, I think that this is
Speaker 1: something hold on what I'm deep six in this story art.
Speaker 1: You don't have to give the next one. I got
Speaker 1: a plane to catch, get out of here. I don't
Speaker 1: want time to talk Kristin Michael. Moving on, Here's something
Speaker 1: that I will never Vito um because I wrote about
Speaker 1: it on the end around yesterday morning, Fox Camp came
Speaker 1: to a close in the most wonderful way possible. It
Speaker 1: came down to this, paint this picture and Colleen, I
Speaker 1: just gotta let you know. And now you've given me
Speaker 1: a little bit of a hard time about I would
Speaker 1: never give you a hard time. Yeah, just a little
Speaker 1: bit though about one of the great one of the
Speaker 1: great battles that we're seeing unfurrel ever, in an NFL
Speaker 1: offseason Folk, it maakes Mayweather McGregor looked like a landfill
Speaker 1: a baby puke. Looks like that guy got into the kombucha. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So as we know, quick refresher and I have the
Speaker 1: whole thing written up on the under round if you're
Speaker 1: if you're not caught up. But Aguayo v Folk Nick
Speaker 1: Folk for the job in Tampa, and after a shaky
Speaker 1: o t a s performance by Aguayo when he he
Speaker 1: acted on those narrow goal posts, he came back this
Speaker 1: week and We talked about it on on Wednesday show.
Speaker 1: He had a nice showing, uh in the earlier practice
Speaker 1: this week, and then in fact, Dark Cutter even went
Speaker 1: as far as say that he had won that day
Speaker 1: of practice, which was a little weird, I thought. But
Speaker 1: then to end mini camp and send the Bucks into
Speaker 1: their summer vacation, what does Dark do, master motivator that
Speaker 1: he is. He sends those two kickers out to the
Speaker 1: middle of the field by themselves, and they have to kick.
Speaker 1: They have to hit two kicks, both from I believe
Speaker 1: it was, let me get the exact distance here, from
Speaker 1: forty four and fifty two, and they have to get
Speaker 1: four in a row to end minicamp a half hour early.
Speaker 1: They both drill them all four and uh, that's why.
Speaker 1: And I know this because Mike Garifolo of NFL Media
Speaker 1: was there in Tampa. He saw and then this is
Speaker 1: the I'm using the words right from Mike Garifolo both
Speaker 1: men quote swarmed by teammates. You tell me this is
Speaker 1: not a big storyline in and around that building, Mike,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Around the NFL podcast. Yeah, is it
Speaker 1: too late to take that word swarmed back? Because I
Speaker 1: feel like now vaulted a rather ordinary experience into freaking
Speaker 1: Rudy get carried off with their gatorade involved. There was
Speaker 1: but but scenario like you could have been sent out
Speaker 1: to any one of the thirty two teams and it
Speaker 1: just happened to be you that you're sent out to
Speaker 1: the epicenter of what's happening in the NFL on Thursday.
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew why I was there, and it
Speaker 1: was for rob It was for Roberto le versus Nick Folk.
Speaker 1: I know, damn right. Uh And listen if if they
Speaker 1: are haters on Twitter that that say, why are we
Speaker 1: talking about this? It's June? You know what? Stick it,
Speaker 1: Because frankly, I care about kicking competitions, especially when it's
Speaker 1: a guy like Nick Folk and not just Look. Usually
Speaker 1: the second kicker guy in in a in a camp
Speaker 1: is a guy that's just like getting some kicks in.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get some tape in the preseason and then
Speaker 1: maybe he turns into Brandon mcmados, maybe he gets cut
Speaker 1: and then he becomes a real kicker in the league.
Speaker 1: But in this case, he got Nick Folks. So it's
Speaker 1: a guy that's made big kicks in his career before.
Speaker 1: See Rex Ryan comes to the podium after the game
Speaker 1: and suggest folk hero is the headline for the tabloids
Speaker 1: and and you know he takes off. So it's a
Speaker 1: real thing. And I don't care what anybody says. It's
Speaker 1: the real thing. And you're what if you're fired up
Speaker 1: about a dad hand. I'm fired up about it, thank you, Mike.
Speaker 1: And I should also say a real thing is that, uh, Mike,
Speaker 1: are follow is on the underpants line sponsored by me?
Speaker 1: And Mike, are you wearing me? Right now? Okay? But
Speaker 1: that's only because you guys haven't sent me any yet.
Speaker 1: So that's the only reason why I just got my
Speaker 1: first pair. Yeah, if you if you to me. Frankly,
Speaker 1: if you guys send them to me, I'll do them
Speaker 1: in only we can do that. They're very soft. You're
Speaker 1: gonna like them so some Mike, so you any other
Speaker 1: I know that I only care about what you just
Speaker 1: talked about when it comes to Bucks camp. But they're
Speaker 1: also a very buzzy team across the NFL. In this
Speaker 1: room in our podcast, um, any other takeaways from your
Speaker 1: time in Tampa? And then we just wanted to hit
Speaker 1: on some other places you were this week, But any
Speaker 1: other takeaways from Tampa. Yeah, I listen, there's there's um
Speaker 1: it's probably went to Jacksonville and then I went to Tampa.
Speaker 1: And in Jacksonville we can get to them in a second.
Speaker 1: But Jacksonville was all about kind of tamping down expectations,
Speaker 1: whereas in Tampa it was really about embracing them. And
Speaker 1: at least the players were. I mean the coaches and
Speaker 1: and and everybody else will always be more cautious. But
Speaker 1: I talked to JERRYL. McCoy about it after practice, and uh,
Speaker 1: he said, you know when when when the team goes
Speaker 1: out and signed guys over the last two years like
Speaker 1: j R. Sweezy and now the Sean Jackson, and they
Speaker 1: make the additions that they've made, it's a signal two
Speaker 1: guys that have been around for a while. Uh, members
Speaker 1: of the core like like McCoy and maybe Lavonte David
Speaker 1: and a couple other guys that you know, now it's time.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way McCoy put it in it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's time. It's it's not just okay, we're building something.
Speaker 1: It's it's been built and now what are we gonna
Speaker 1: do with it? And and Jameis Winston and Cameron Brad.
Speaker 1: We're having a little catch at the end of practice
Speaker 1: after everybody else left the field. They're working on corner routes.
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, if you're if you're following me on snapchat,
Speaker 1: you saw this. Bray actually threw some to James. I
Speaker 1: don't know why they did that. It wasn't a trick play.
Speaker 1: They just felt like doing it. But then it went
Speaker 1: back to James throwing them to Cameron Brad and he
Speaker 1: catches the last one. They're walking off the field and
Speaker 1: Jamie said, all right, let's go win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: These guys are are embracing the thought of them being
Speaker 1: a promising team in a very tough division. I might add,
Speaker 1: Mike Frankie, there's gonna be hold on, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a team on paper in the NFP. Doub that looked
Speaker 1: great that it's gonna have a sub five record, just
Speaker 1: because you can't possibly have everybody be competitive. Well, you
Speaker 1: kind of forget how long it's been since. I mean,
Speaker 1: these are heavy expectations to have when your team hasn't
Speaker 1: won a single playoff game since they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That's fifteen years. They haven't been to the playoffs in
Speaker 1: a decade. So they're up there on the list of
Speaker 1: you know, the longest droughts of not even making the playoffs.
Speaker 1: That that's a big jump. Go ahead. They they they've
Speaker 1: got they've got all the pieces, and they feel like, uh,
Speaker 1: Winston is really you know, stepping into it. And it's
Speaker 1: it's you know, you you always hear, oh a guy's
Speaker 1: been the same way or he's right now, he's in
Speaker 1: the same way the whole time he's been here. And
Speaker 1: to an extent that that's true with Winston because you
Speaker 1: remember him being that vocal guy. He's always a vocal guy.
Speaker 1: He's at the door of rookie camp when he's a
Speaker 1: rookie greeting all the other rookies coming in. You're saying, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy is gonna be a leader right away. So
Speaker 1: he still acts the same way, and he's still very vocal,
Speaker 1: but now it carries a little more weight because he's
Speaker 1: actually put something together on the field. He's been there
Speaker 1: for a while. Uh. And the and the longer you're
Speaker 1: in a place and you're a quarterback and somebody's team
Speaker 1: official there said to me yesterday, he is the unquestioned
Speaker 1: leader of the team right now, And nobody's questioning it.
Speaker 1: Even the Gerald McCoys of the world who have been
Speaker 1: around longer. We'll look at it say no, No, that's
Speaker 1: our leader right there. So that's why they feel pretty good.
Speaker 1: I said one of the tip that I forgot to
Speaker 1: work this in on the area yesterday, UM, during the
Speaker 1: down period before official offseason workouts began, derk Cutter goes
Speaker 1: down to the off as it was before six am, UH,
Speaker 1: and he goes down in the lobby of the facility
Speaker 1: and and Jamis was there reading a book about leadership.
Speaker 1: And he went up to Jason Light's office and told him,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna believe he's down there, because he had
Speaker 1: He just wanted to be here. This is where he works.
Speaker 1: He doesn't care that it's not official workout. He's gonna
Speaker 1: workout in his own later. But he's here before six
Speaker 1: am reading a book about leadership. So that's why they're
Speaker 1: excited about this guy. Kind of like that, kind of
Speaker 1: like that, Hey, you were in Jacksonville, too, right, Mike,
Speaker 1: I was UM. And every time I mentioned to I
Speaker 1: sat and talked with Doug Morna, sat and talked with
Speaker 1: with Dave Colba, and every time I kind of mentioned
Speaker 1: about how talented they are. Uh. They reminded me that
Speaker 1: they haven't played a game yet this year. So it's
Speaker 1: they're tired of hearing things like how much talent they have,
Speaker 1: how much uh potential that this is the Jaguars year.
Speaker 1: They're tired of hearing it because they haven't got out
Speaker 1: and done it, and they are getting a direct approach
Speaker 1: from their head coach. Now, Gus Bradley was a very
Speaker 1: positive guy. Not that Doug Moron is a positive guy,
Speaker 1: but Doug maronas is telling these guys, you know, look,
Speaker 1: there's there's talking about it and there's actually doing it.
Speaker 1: We've got to go out and do it. And in
Speaker 1: addition to that, Tom Conflin's presence along with Maron has
Speaker 1: led to some pretty intense practices for these guys. I've
Speaker 1: mentioned it in our Reporter's notebook, which is online right now.
Speaker 1: You can go read on dot com. Uh. The I
Speaker 1: was leaving the facility, We're getting ready to drafts Tampa
Speaker 1: and this typical Florida thunderstore. But for people who aren't
Speaker 1: from Florida, I mean, it looked like the world was
Speaker 1: gonna end and two guys, one guy comes out and says,
Speaker 1: why could this not have happened when we were practicing earlier?
Speaker 1: And then the other guy comes out and he's like,
Speaker 1: we keep raining all the way through tomorrow's practice because
Speaker 1: as much as they can under the rules of the
Speaker 1: collective barning Agreement, the Jaguars have pushed these guys to
Speaker 1: the limit. And if they think this was bad, wait
Speaker 1: till the pads come on in training camps. They are
Speaker 1: really setting a tone down there. No, and even I
Speaker 1: don't know, I like that Brightley a lot. I think
Speaker 1: he's a terrific defensive coach. I think if he becomes
Speaker 1: the head coach Againel will probably have learned some mistakes
Speaker 1: from being a head coach. He's not a hard line,
Speaker 1: direct communicator sometimes, and I think that that was a downfall.
Speaker 1: Doug Moron is exactly the opposite of that, and and
Speaker 1: he is directly and bluntly communicating with this guy, with
Speaker 1: the guys. I mentioned this on ear the other day.
Speaker 1: He told Blake Bortles, if you continue to turn the
Speaker 1: bowl over, you're not going to be our quarterback. Everything
Speaker 1: else we can work on that is non negotiable. That
Speaker 1: was a direct quote from Doug Moron. So Uh, they are.
Speaker 1: They are getting that tone set for them, verbally, physically,
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff down there. Do you think that
Speaker 1: it's sustainable for Kaughlan to be such a large mouthpiece
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville along with Maron, that there's any sort of
Speaker 1: overlap there or is it just working out great and
Speaker 1: everything's amazing in Jacksonville until the games begin? Well, the
Speaker 1: games haven't been played yet. Games I've been played yet,
Speaker 1: so I gotta temper or anything. But I did ask
Speaker 1: about that, and I talked to Dave Coldball about it.
Speaker 1: I talked to uh Morona about it. I only saw
Speaker 1: a comflin passing by briefly in the hallway. We had
Speaker 1: a little exchange. But uh, Coldwell, he was he was up.
Speaker 1: He said when this happened, he knew what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: He can embrace it or he can find it right.
Speaker 1: So he he didn't really know Coughlin that well, but
Speaker 1: he says that the two of them are really aligned
Speaker 1: in their philosophies and the way they look at things.
Speaker 1: You might not know that because they've got two different personalities.
Speaker 1: And and And called well was a bit laid back.
Speaker 1: And and and Coughlin is very much not laid back.
Speaker 1: But the other thing is that, uh, Caldwell had a
Speaker 1: as a general manager of team. It's about more than
Speaker 1: just kicking players, and a lot of times you've got
Speaker 1: so many things on your plate. And he said it's
Speaker 1: been really good for him because a lot of these
Speaker 1: things are now falling on Couflin and he's just another
Speaker 1: voice that he can can bounce stuff off of. So
Speaker 1: he's he's actually he said, had Couflin not been here,
Speaker 1: there may have been some transactions that would have been different.
Speaker 1: I don't want to speak in detail. I believe he said,
Speaker 1: don't go into detail on it when he when we
Speaker 1: talked about this, but there are some things that he
Speaker 1: did that he was able to bounce off Coffland and
Speaker 1: they talked things through and he said, you know, had
Speaker 1: I not had that, things wouldn't have gone the way
Speaker 1: that they did. And uh, he really believed that the
Speaker 1: team is better for um. Two more things real quick.
Speaker 1: First of all, now that we're entering the dark period
Speaker 1: of the calendar for the NFL, is this are you
Speaker 1: just gonna be a bar fly and Hoboken just bouncing
Speaker 1: around the path bars going a little bit uptown. You know,
Speaker 1: just getting a little dirty. Well, we're a little late
Speaker 1: uh in this call. We had scheduled in earlier because
Speaker 1: we had a scheduling call with Dave Shot. If you
Speaker 1: don't know who Dave is, he's a really powerful guy
Speaker 1: in the NFL network and everybody's bounce and Dave Shot.
Speaker 1: Nobody ever talked back to him, never, But he was
Speaker 1: talking about two e uh Ian Rappaport night uh and
Speaker 1: me Rappard. You don't know him. He's a very powerful
Speaker 1: man work as well. He's he's slashed some careers, that's
Speaker 1: true about he flashed something U our schedule over the
Speaker 1: next month and just in case something happens. And so
Speaker 1: I've got days where I've got to be on call,
Speaker 1: and then I'm hosting Good Morning Football, not hosting. I
Speaker 1: don't want to say that I'm speaking in for Peter Schreegor.
Speaker 1: You're kind of a big deal. I got a real
Speaker 1: that back in now I am occupying a chair on
Speaker 1: Good Morning Football on I think it's Wednesday and Thursday. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's a big job. Schrieger's body double. We would be
Speaker 1: concerned if you really excelled. Let's say you came in
Speaker 1: with excellent knowledge as we would expect and you just
Speaker 1: really show chemistry. Is Schreeger suddenly on the hot seat
Speaker 1: in that operation? I mean, what are the chances I'm
Speaker 1: gonna come with with with some of that stuff. Probably zero,
Speaker 1: Probably as good as me just growing a full head
Speaker 1: of hair tomorrow. What about what about the idea of
Speaker 1: showing up in a robber that will take you I'll
Speaker 1: take you places of a robber with underneath it. Uh.
Speaker 1: But but listen, hold on either because usually my wife
Speaker 1: drinks with me, and I would love to share some
Speaker 1: news with you guys. My wife is expecting. Oh wait,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's already. Yeah, we went wide with that one.
Speaker 1: I had to check with Mike after the show to
Speaker 1: make sure we weren't breaking anything. That's congratulations, Yes, congratulations
Speaker 1: very much. And there's nothing worse. I tell Mike and
Speaker 1: I talked about this at the media summit. Um. I said,
Speaker 1: you know, don't, don't go on the baby moon, don't
Speaker 1: do anything, because it's not fun drinking when your wife
Speaker 1: can't drink with you and you're just sitting there. I
Speaker 1: the pregnancy thing with boozing was kind of a bummer
Speaker 1: for both of us. Not just they don't fit very well.
Speaker 1: These two things, um last thing, and they don't well,
Speaker 1: they don't like it when they see you boozing. Yeah
Speaker 1: course you kind of feel like a jerk. Um last thing.
Speaker 1: Robbie or Nick? Who you got, Oh, Robbie, all right,
Speaker 1: we're on that. We're on that kind of name. But
Speaker 1: with rob I just you know, he's you've got the
Speaker 1: second round pick. So unless you really really falls apart,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go a while. I I feel it. Look,
Speaker 1: that was a pressure kick the other day. Okay, you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna end practice half an hour early. A little
Speaker 1: skeptical like what if he had what if they had missed?
Speaker 1: Would they really have practiced for another half hour? These coaches,
Speaker 1: they don't plan. I mean, maybe would have given him
Speaker 1: another kick and you make it now? Okay, that one
Speaker 1: was good? Yeah, okay, I think dear cutter was cutting
Speaker 1: practice short no matter what. But why I didn't know that?
Speaker 1: Focus know that. And so that was a good pressure
Speaker 1: kick and you want to see him respond to pressure,
Speaker 1: and he did there. So I believe that that was
Speaker 1: the kick heard around the world that will begin Roberto
Speaker 1: Aguayo's quest to secure the job. That should have been
Speaker 1: automatic for him, at least for a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: Score a vote for the kid and thank you to
Speaker 1: Mike garfollow at Mike garafollow and he mentioned his snapchat account. Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely a deaf mentioned there, Mike Underscore Garafolo, Thank you
Speaker 1: very much, good sir, and enjoy what we hope is
Speaker 1: a very quiet, dark period for you fingers crossed boys
Speaker 1: and girl. All right, thank you there. It is a
Speaker 1: vote for the kid. Folk. The biggest cliffhanger since that
Speaker 1: one episode of Friends when Rachel went to meet Ross
Speaker 1: at the airport after his work trip to China and
Speaker 1: was stunned to see Ross cuddling up to his new
Speaker 1: squeeze Julie. Wrong. You gotta admit though it's parallel, well
Speaker 1: the parallel. You can't take it away from me. It's
Speaker 1: a great parallel. And it is really truly a great
Speaker 1: cliffhanger to go out of minicamp and towards drinking and
Speaker 1: that's what you were like, Oh you really wanted three
Speaker 1: gold this one. This entire podcast was just building up
Speaker 1: to that moment and everything after this Dad won't even remember.
Speaker 1: And a shout out shout out to add Rank who
Speaker 1: was up here when I went to record this, and
Speaker 1: he reminded me that the woman's name was jul um
Speaker 1: Rich to tell very much. Uh, friends, have you ever
Speaker 1: seen that show? Greig? I watched a lot earlier. I
Speaker 1: heard of it. I quit by that point. I believe
Speaker 1: in the in the program. That was like season in
Speaker 1: the program. I love it. That's a great way. I
Speaker 1: gave it like a year and a half or two.
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Speaker 1: our final segment of today's show, Unsolved Mysteries. I always
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Speaker 1: have to say. Anyway, So here we are. We're through
Speaker 1: O T A S. We are through mini camps. Training
Speaker 1: camp starts right around a month from now. Um, so
Speaker 1: we've tried to as members of the Football COGNESCENTI figure out,
Speaker 1: uh what's going on with these teams, getting a feel
Speaker 1: for teams and players and coaches, and gms, but we
Speaker 1: can't figure out everything. So that's why we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about now some unsolved mysteries as we enter training
Speaker 1: camp and Mark Seiler get us going, I'm going to
Speaker 1: start in an obvious place, and I apologize for doing that,
Speaker 1: but quarterback is the reason for me that these mini
Speaker 1: camps in training camp leading up the season matter the
Speaker 1: reason for the season. There you go and I look
Speaker 1: at Cleveland and where we were last year in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson was so on this Robert Griffin train that
Speaker 1: it seemed no matter what he was going to become
Speaker 1: the starter. And right now you've got three quarterbacks in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Kaiser, brock Oswidler, Cody Kestle or fourth and Kevin Hogan,
Speaker 1: who's he's just there as a guy at this point.
Speaker 1: But they came out of yesterday's mini camps saying there's
Speaker 1: literally zero pecking order. We have no idea who is
Speaker 1: going to be the starter. And I do believe in
Speaker 1: a way that it's that's not just lip service. There
Speaker 1: may be in the house people they like to see
Speaker 1: when it but it is a true battle, and uh,
Speaker 1: it's concerning as it means you definitely don't have a
Speaker 1: number one. But it's a little bit from for me
Speaker 1: this time around, the vibe of it than some of
Speaker 1: their previous um battles with completely underwhelming characters involved. There's
Speaker 1: at least like Oswilder. It could be awful, but he's intriguing.
Speaker 1: Kaiser I think is intriguing as a rookie, and Kessler
Speaker 1: is sort of the safe guy that if you're starting
Speaker 1: with him, no one else really shown Brock intriguing, intriguing.
Speaker 1: I didn't not say in talent. I just think he's
Speaker 1: like I didn't think he was gonna I don't think
Speaker 1: he was gonna be on the team at this point.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe with Hugh Jackson, maybe he'll be
Speaker 1: a little different. Brock again, I don't think he's I
Speaker 1: don't want him to. He's the guy he's he's this
Speaker 1: year's version of r G three. For me, I don't
Speaker 1: want him. It's a mystery because we don't know where
Speaker 1: the Browns are gonna go. Uh real quick around the
Speaker 1: room over under starts Brock Oswiler. I'll set it at
Speaker 1: seven and a half under under. I think he'll be
Speaker 1: right and that I think he's gonna play about half
Speaker 1: the season. Really, I think er, well, you know what,
Speaker 1: actually know because they have Kessler there, and if they
Speaker 1: do talk themselves into Brock star in the season and
Speaker 1: it predictably won't work out, they probably bench him around
Speaker 1: the start of October late September. Kessler would get his shot,
Speaker 1: and then they would probably when they're like two and
Speaker 1: seven or three and six, maybe go to Kaiser to
Speaker 1: close the season. I could see that it's a bad
Speaker 1: year for QB battles. I've written a column around this time,
Speaker 1: kind of updating the QB battles at this point in
Speaker 1: the off season, and I thought there's no point in
Speaker 1: doing it this year because you know, Josh mccount and
Speaker 1: the Jets. I guess that's a battle, but it seems
Speaker 1: like a farcet the Browns. It does seem white open.
Speaker 1: I don't think you learned anything in the last few weeks.
Speaker 1: And I also don't think it has a huge impact
Speaker 1: on the NFL as a whole. What's their ceiling six
Speaker 1: or seven wins in a in a really perfect world, really,
Speaker 1: there's one battle that twelve. There's one battle that matters
Speaker 1: at all, and it's in Denver, and that's it. Uh
Speaker 1: con Well, this is a perfect segue because mine is
Speaker 1: also about quarterbacks, but it's more spooky. Can Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: develop them, because we've heard it in the past he
Speaker 1: has this skill and we just haven't really seen it yet.
Speaker 1: He's had a ton of middling quarterbacks that have rolled
Speaker 1: through their Brian Horrior, case, Keenum fitz Patrick Mallett, Savage Weed,
Speaker 1: and t J. Yates Brock. But now he has Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson there, so this could be a true test for
Speaker 1: him whether or not he actually does have the capability
Speaker 1: of developing a young quarterback or is it just all
Speaker 1: hype with him working with Tom Brady and the stuff
Speaker 1: that he was able to do at Penn State, and
Speaker 1: it maybe not translating to the NFL. They have wide
Speaker 1: receivers they just drafted onto Foreman, and they have they
Speaker 1: have guys there that can help us a great defense.
Speaker 1: So I think that's an unsolved mystery. Then maybe we'll
Speaker 1: see that. I think that's totally fair, and there are
Speaker 1: detractors out there who I think maybe get rubbed the
Speaker 1: wrong way about Bill O'Brien who point that out a
Speaker 1: little bit, that like, is this guy really know how
Speaker 1: to teach that well, if his offense is so hard
Speaker 1: to learn that that you can't do it. The counter
Speaker 1: argument to that is, look at and Fitzpatrick and Bryan
Speaker 1: and Brian Hoyer's numbers with him. I mean, Fitzpatrick had
Speaker 1: great Lawyer had pretty great numbers. They basically played about
Speaker 1: as well as they've played under underbuilding, Greg, You're up next.
Speaker 1: It's very important we get that music I amsolved. Mystery
Speaker 1: is a looming and I don't want to get dark,
Speaker 1: but you would think that one of the biggest stars
Speaker 1: in the league being under investigation in the domestic UH
Speaker 1: abuse situation for more than a year would be a
Speaker 1: bigger story. And yet the Ezekiel Elliott investigation from the
Speaker 1: league is continuing. They recently got, you know, documents from
Speaker 1: the NFL p a UH and that's just kind of
Speaker 1: been hanging out there. I don't want to blame anyone
Speaker 1: or anything for this, but you would think they could
Speaker 1: that this would be wrapped up one way or another.
Speaker 1: And because it's not, I consider it something that's looming
Speaker 1: over this team. And as part of that, I'll at
Speaker 1: least point out a mystery to me is they do
Speaker 1: have two new starters on their offensive line. So can
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott be as good as dominant or get even
Speaker 1: better this year with two new starters, assuming he's not suspended.
Speaker 1: It's very fair. It is kind of just hanging there
Speaker 1: and there's little An update comes out every few weeks,
Speaker 1: and it's not something like the update maybe you would
Speaker 1: expect was, uh, the you know, there's no the NFL,
Speaker 1: there's not planned to do any discipline, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: It's just lingering. There's a lot of like, well this
Speaker 1: is there's a lot of like under the radar, Well
Speaker 1: this doesn't seem overly serious, and I would hesitate on
Speaker 1: that if this investigation is still happening, haven't we gone
Speaker 1: through these situations enough that you should take them all serious.
Speaker 1: It hasn't been a great offseason for him with that
Speaker 1: and the shirt incident. With with these investigations, is there
Speaker 1: like a in house like detect a guy who's pounding
Speaker 1: the case like day after day, months and months. That's
Speaker 1: that's why it's a miss. That's a mystery. How they
Speaker 1: solved the mystery is an unsolved mystery. I wish I
Speaker 1: wish this was a video show because I couldn't remember
Speaker 1: the quote unquote shirt incident. So Colleen pantomime to what
Speaker 1: it was. I figured it out a little pigmenta he
Speaker 1: supposedly uh took No, that was a different shirt incident.
Speaker 1: That's salacious and inappropriate. Frankly, Mark, I would agree with you.
Speaker 1: I feel like you've barely talked about the Cowboys this offseason.
Speaker 1: Uh quiet for them for the most part. Here's a
Speaker 1: this is gonna be I'll start with one name, and
Speaker 1: then I could um fan it out to a few others.
Speaker 1: Robert Stack keeps unlike in his grave like gay, what
Speaker 1: was that? Over and over again? Is RGI three's career over?
Speaker 1: Is just over? Is Robert Griffin the third, who's obviously
Speaker 1: still unsigned, is his career over? I mean, should he
Speaker 1: go into broadcasting? I don't know if he would be
Speaker 1: good at that. I'm i gotta say, like, I know,
Speaker 1: it went very poorly in Cleveland, but it's also beat up.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like he was um so bad. That wasn't
Speaker 1: that poorly Like in terms of just watching the play,
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of quarterbacks. I saw some quarterbacks
Speaker 1: play worse than RG three last year, and if his
Speaker 1: end of the season, there was some progress. But I
Speaker 1: think it's like you sign up for r G three
Speaker 1: and you're wondering if you can get more than three
Speaker 1: or four games out of him out of out of
Speaker 1: a during the season at this point, and and and
Speaker 1: when once quarterbacks start going down, r G three is
Speaker 1: going to be on that short list unless we don't
Speaker 1: know what his agents telling teams that they even called
Speaker 1: about financials and what he wants. But isn't it it's
Speaker 1: it's I guess because we've all been here since he
Speaker 1: was that superstar for you know, three months as a rookie,
Speaker 1: So it's still hard to kind of imagine that at
Speaker 1: age twenty seven or twenty eight he would be completely
Speaker 1: out of football. But perhaps the mark of and it's
Speaker 1: kind of not a story. Yeah, that's what I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: More surprising is that nobody's even talking about It's almost
Speaker 1: like everyone has moved on from r G three. And
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe that it's because everyone else is kind
Speaker 1: of on the same page that you just can't play anymore.
Speaker 1: The injuries basically sapped what he had physically, and he
Speaker 1: didn't maybe didn't have the other components. But I guess
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, he just peaked so early. There a
Speaker 1: couple other players. I think. I don't think he's going
Speaker 1: to get a job over under uh games active r
Speaker 1: G three one half taking the under. I don't he
Speaker 1: might have to go to the CFL. You want your
Speaker 1: quarterback in on the roster by now, so I'll go
Speaker 1: I'll go under. Also, yeah, Kaepernick gets a job. Still,
Speaker 1: I don't think your revis there's some other big name
Speaker 1: RG three black balled. I don't think he's black balled.
Speaker 1: He's just like, this is my segment. I was gonna
Speaker 1: bring up these other names. Okay, one of them was
Speaker 1: one of them removes the mystery off one of my potential.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to cook up another one quick. Why
Speaker 1: don't I get out of the way then, and you
Speaker 1: will know I think it's fine. I have another one. Yeah, Okay, Now,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna throw out some names, notable guys.
Speaker 1: Decker will get a job, obviously, Ryan Claydy uh, Nick Mangold,
Speaker 1: DeAndre Levy, Randon Flowers, Paul Krueger, Gary bond By giving
Speaker 1: me a calm, a folk, give me a ring, He'll
Speaker 1: be fine. Somebody lose my black ball. You are not Gary, Okay,
Speaker 1: I've done. I was gonna mention Reeves and I I
Speaker 1: just I will be interesting to see if he plays
Speaker 1: again out honestly. But the one for me that I
Speaker 1: think it's a little longer range because I was thinking
Speaker 1: about like mysteries are typically around something kind of dark,
Speaker 1: and like the team that brings up kind of the
Speaker 1: darkest energy for me right now, and it's not the Jets, honestly,
Speaker 1: because the Jets there is clearly like a unified mind
Speaker 1: on what they're doing. They're on there seemingly on the
Speaker 1: same page. It keeps going to Chicago because the forget
Speaker 1: just the quarterback thing that's gonna get figured out one
Speaker 1: way or the other. But it's still bugs me that
Speaker 1: if you're John Fox, you have to go to bed
Speaker 1: every night knowing that your front office basically ice to
Speaker 1: you before the draft, kept you out in the dark
Speaker 1: and wouldn't let you talk because I honestly, the way
Speaker 1: it's been reported is they don't trust him not to
Speaker 1: go talk to others about what we're gonna do. We're
Speaker 1: gonna trade up, we're gonna do X, Y and Z.
Speaker 1: That your coach is the coach of a team with
Speaker 1: all sorts of issues. Number one, you have a GM
Speaker 1: that went and rogue and did his own thing and
Speaker 1: in some power structures, that's fine, that's not how I
Speaker 1: when Uh Sunny did in Draft sure fictional, you know,
Speaker 1: and what happened, what happened to that team? We don't
Speaker 1: know that they don't exist after at the end of
Speaker 1: that movie. But the Bears and that Fox and Paste
Speaker 1: do have to coexist, and all the buzz coming out
Speaker 1: of there is negative that they aren't on the same page.
Speaker 1: And when you look at these teams, you say, by November,
Speaker 1: what is the team where there could be a house cleaning?
Speaker 1: Their to be major issues. Chicago is the one that
Speaker 1: sticks up for me. So it's not like it's a
Speaker 1: quarterback mystery or position. Think it's gonna be sold by
Speaker 1: training camp. But I just feel a lot of negative
Speaker 1: energy around the Chicago Bears. I'm trying to say that
Speaker 1: the unsolved mystery could be that John Fox takes out
Speaker 1: prind Pace or vice versa, like what one of them are?
Speaker 1: You went a little front of him is missing? Suddenly
Speaker 1: do we have to get Frank Signetti on the case.
Speaker 1: That would literally a show up on some mysteries, The
Speaker 1: Real Show Frank Signetti, brother eye, here's a mystery. What
Speaker 1: happened to that guy? He landed somewhere. I believe he's
Speaker 1: got the giants. I believe that's exactly where he is.
Speaker 1: I went to the big Apple streets. He um, he
Speaker 1: oversaw the worst year of Eli Manning career. Oh perfect,
Speaker 1: thank you, Frank. All right, Connie, Okay, Why hasn't Eddie
Speaker 1: Lazy tried Beach Body yet? That's sort of that he
Speaker 1: is doing it. Not a mystery. He's doing Beach Body.
Speaker 1: He's paid consultant, excellent success with it. Says I've torpedoed
Speaker 1: my own segment, maybe by Mark Sessler. He has posted
Speaker 1: on social media that he's all about that beach Body.
Speaker 1: He's he's made two way in so far he's made that.
Speaker 1: We could get music for this one because we solved it.
Speaker 1: He I thought he's doing beach Body. This would be
Speaker 1: like the equivalent on unsolved mysteries, and it was always
Speaker 1: the best at the end of it ago update and
Speaker 1: then bang they tell you, oh this this this woman
Speaker 1: who was found her body was found in the swamp.
Speaker 1: This is a little different for you or the Virgin
Speaker 1: Mary that was on the dish towel was actually just mud.
Speaker 1: It was confirmed the visage. Uh you know, one of
Speaker 1: those things, all right, So yeah, that's not gonna work out.
Speaker 1: I was going to get into how the Seattle running backs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well shake out. That's just the depth chart in general.
Speaker 1: That's a litt but on something I was gonna that
Speaker 1: was mine. So I'm gonna jump in here anyway, So
Speaker 1: come up with right. So listen, they have a ton
Speaker 1: of depth. Obviously, they have Rawles want play there with
Speaker 1: Greg and I enjoyed it. I know. Look Eddie Lacy,
Speaker 1: he's staying on target now with beach body as he
Speaker 1: has been for a little while. Um, they have Lacey
Speaker 1: and Rawls, which are basically both the same type of
Speaker 1: power runners. They have process who can run routes like
Speaker 1: a wide receiver Alex Collins. They brought in Mike Davis
Speaker 1: like for depth. They don't depth at all. So I
Speaker 1: want to know how it's going to shake out, who's
Speaker 1: going to come out on top, and what the order
Speaker 1: is going to be there. I think it's been under
Speaker 1: the radar that Rawls uh one a playoff game for
Speaker 1: them last year, that he was coming off two major
Speaker 1: injuries back to back when he was struggling earlier in
Speaker 1: the year, he carried them to a playoff win. When
Speaker 1: was the last time we saw Eddie Lacey play as
Speaker 1: well as Thomas Ross played in that game, Thomas Ross
Speaker 1: reportedly flying around on the field at O T s.
Speaker 1: No one's mentioned the fact. Okay, yeah, Eddie Lacey's on
Speaker 1: beach buddy, he's not playing football. He's still recovering from
Speaker 1: an ankle Instagram, and he's often hurt. And I I've
Speaker 1: always really liked Thomas Rowles as a player, and he's
Speaker 1: been talking like he's really motivated because because they brought
Speaker 1: in Lacey, and I think he ends up being the
Speaker 1: guy to ride. You're taking him in fantasy football. Very fair.
Speaker 1: I also think they brought in Eddie Lacy because of
Speaker 1: doubts about both of the other backs they had. And
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're gonna kill Eddie Lacey for being hurt,
Speaker 1: Thomas Rawls his most of his career has been injury
Speaker 1: injury situations. So I think what's different is that if
Speaker 1: there was a previous regime that we were partnering to
Speaker 1: see Seahawks teams like we're gonna ride Marshawn Lynch as
Speaker 1: the eighty five percent of the carries. It could be
Speaker 1: very different this year. It could look different. And Eddie Lacey,
Speaker 1: for me, at least the guy has put in effort.
Speaker 1: He seems like he does very much care about showing
Speaker 1: up in Seattle and reviving his career. I think they've
Speaker 1: got an interesting backfield that could be quite quite dangerous.
Speaker 1: Um and uh, finally, uh, this one unsolved mystery. It's
Speaker 1: connected to the new Orlens Saints and Sean Payton, the
Speaker 1: head coach. He had this to say on Wednesday after
Speaker 1: rookie cornerback Marshawn Lattimore had a very nice day in practice.
Speaker 1: Uh and Uh, Sean Payton when he spoke to the media,
Speaker 1: he wanted to show that he's up with the music
Speaker 1: he made. He made a couple of plays today. I listen.
Speaker 1: I told him, you know, he's gonna be like Kendrick Lamar.
Speaker 1: They're all gonna get in line to go to go
Speaker 1: see him, you know, And that's just how it is
Speaker 1: until that's how it is for a rookie corner you know.
Speaker 1: So there'll be a long line waiting to test him.
Speaker 1: And and he understands that, and you know, Uh, that's
Speaker 1: part of part of that status. So here's the unsolved mystery.
Speaker 1: What who is the next hugely popular uh figure celebrity
Speaker 1: that Sean Payton will use and dad speak to show
Speaker 1: that he's hit. Thinking Canna to the Younger felt so
Speaker 1: much to choose from it. I mean that was such
Speaker 1: a stretch of anyway, it didn't make sense. Thank you that.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things about this article was marshaw
Speaker 1: On Lottimore saying like, yeah, he's thrown that out a
Speaker 1: couple of times. To me, he's working it hard as
Speaker 1: he says, like, it's like he reached that to his
Speaker 1: son's or one of his kids, and it's like, all right,
Speaker 1: who's like the big rapper right now? And then he
Speaker 1: made sure of shoehorn it in just the show. And
Speaker 1: I do like, sit down, Sean Payton, the humble, Um,
Speaker 1: I do like Mike Mike Triplet of ESPN, this is
Speaker 1: where I got that quote from. And then uh, Sully
Speaker 1: did a night shop pulling it up. But this is
Speaker 1: how the quote was set up by Triplet on ESPN
Speaker 1: dot com. Uh. Then Sean Payton topped off the Sion
Speaker 1: session with his best one liner of the off season
Speaker 1: to date. Flashing his ability ability to continue adapting his
Speaker 1: message to younger players. Oh god, well, I think he
Speaker 1: still has some way to go. Can I just say
Speaker 1: it's inside his d n A okay, I caught your rumble.
Speaker 1: I caught your umble. We didn't try to answer your question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you name it. Who will be w C Fields? Um?
Speaker 1: I mean stuff to step out. I don't think young
Speaker 1: thugs gonna get who's the guy that did broccoli last year?
Speaker 1: He's got to go a little bit of out, you know,
Speaker 1: check it out by another hip. I needs to be
Speaker 1: someone a little from another industry to show he's versatly
Speaker 1: he understands all aspects of lord culture. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: maybe some maybe some type of pun like whoever the
Speaker 1: new left tackle is going to be. It's like this
Speaker 1: kid's got a real chance the rapper. No, it didn't
Speaker 1: even make sense. People aren't coming up to Kendrick Lamar
Speaker 1: to test them. It's it was labored. Give you that.
Speaker 1: I think it made it just made the cutoff for
Speaker 1: making sense. But it doesn't mean it was a good.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was like one of those things where someone
Speaker 1: was like, hey, if you work this in, I'll buy
Speaker 1: you a sandwich. Like and he's like, UM, alright, those
Speaker 1: are the unsolved mysteries, uh that we um are are
Speaker 1: interested in as we head into the dark period. Now
Speaker 1: little housekeeping, we will be back back to the two
Speaker 1: shows schedule now, um up until the start of training camp.
Speaker 1: So you'll probably hear from us again on Tuesday and UM,
Speaker 1: so make sure you tune in for that. And and Mark,
Speaker 1: you have a great time on your vacation. Thank you, Ford.
Speaker 1: And I do want to point out that I noticed it.
Speaker 1: It did. It did catch my eye that during our
Speaker 1: phone er with Mike Garretfolo during the phone or you
Speaker 1: tweeted out the new Heat and Light podcast is out
Speaker 1: my phone. I really I forgot it was sitting on
Speaker 1: my phone on the past host you and Connor or
Speaker 1: of course, uh, your side project a little disrespectful to Mike.
Speaker 1: You know, Mike got shorted a little bit there. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say, you know, Greg, of all people to
Speaker 1: try to bring up that as a as an issue,
Speaker 1: I have. I have liberally retweeted Dan's podcast. I have
Speaker 1: appeared on Dan's podcast on an upcoming shop. So I
Speaker 1: think that it's fair to support each other's project. Wait
Speaker 1: a second, that is not what I was saying. I
Speaker 1: was talking about Mike. Greg's trying to tear down my
Speaker 1: relationship with Mike. Carefolo, Mike and I are, Mike and
Speaker 1: I are fine. Mike and I are doing great. Dan
Speaker 1: couldn't be happier right now. Um, but no, that is
Speaker 1: that is my way of say, check it out. What
Speaker 1: is this this week's episode about Mark? I it is
Speaker 1: about I would say I would put it under the
Speaker 1: term of haunted house, a haunt, like a very concerning
Speaker 1: true haunting. So app So there you go, the Haunted
Speaker 1: House r j BP throwback pod as well. You know,
Speaker 1: the killer is hot fuss. We broke down Bob castro
Speaker 1: On and I just check it out. Colleen, your side
Speaker 1: project coming out soon. Marital Blitz got squashed, so canceled, canceled.
Speaker 1: But you've been on check a lot lately. I have
Speaker 1: been a lot. Oh like a lot throject. I'm just
Speaker 1: trying to fill some time. Oh no, it's of course.
Speaker 1: But Colleen's going to be with us a lot, uh
Speaker 1: this summer. So we're gonna, you know, continue to work
Speaker 1: together and enjoy ourselves because we've got a great bond
Speaker 1: of the four of us. That's Great and Sully behind
Speaker 1: the glass. Yeah, guys hid. All right, that's it this
Speaker 1: Dan has a signing off for a quiet storm, Honi
Speaker 1: Fox the Old Boss and Sally behind the glass until Tuesday,
Speaker 1: m