Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has ball control issues. Welcome
Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. I'm
Speaker 1: your host, Colleen Wolf and I'm joined by roube filled
Speaker 1: with heroes, Patrick Claiban, Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, Gang?
Speaker 1: It's always just like a little weird when Dan isn't here.
Speaker 1: It just feels like a little off. It's different. But
Speaker 1: people do get the like warm embrace of your voice
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, it's Colleen, Like Dan's not here,
Speaker 1: but but somebody's here to hold me through the this podcast.
Speaker 1: Right Dan, Dan, I believe still at the Jersey Shore
Speaker 1: with his family. Mark Um wasn't the office yesterday. I
Speaker 1: was here as well, but he is now off to
Speaker 1: see his parents with his his family, and um, you
Speaker 1: know they've they both Dan and Mark have started. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys, you guys do know this,
Speaker 1: these these great side podcast. Dan has a throwback pod
Speaker 1: and Mark has the Heat and Light podcast, and so
Speaker 1: we we thought today this can be our side podcast.
Speaker 1: Colleen west And what was your name for it? It
Speaker 1: was I didn't have one go off like an old album,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be and it'll be once a year.
Speaker 1: We're both on vacation and we just dropped fire. I
Speaker 1: like it, and West you're going, You're gonna take a
Speaker 1: little vacation, right, I'm gonna meet my mom in Longboat Key, Florida.
Speaker 1: I'm leaving tomorrow night. All right, I'm leaving the country
Speaker 1: and less than six hours. Who's counting though? So yeah,
Speaker 1: we have not a lot of news, but we have
Speaker 1: a lot of odds and ends to get to Sully.
Speaker 1: What's up, my man? Not too much. How you guys
Speaker 1: doing today? We're great. How are you? You're busting behind
Speaker 1: the glass busn't it. Yeah, it's a busy day back here.
Speaker 1: It is very, very busy day. It's like not busy
Speaker 1: at all in the NFL, but it's busy in Sully's world.
Speaker 1: I mean, these vacations, it's like everyone's getting the last
Speaker 1: ones in. We are about two weeks away from inside
Speaker 1: training camp starting like that's right. August is by far
Speaker 1: the worst month. It's probably the toughest. I would say
Speaker 1: if the game's actually meant something, it would be different.
Speaker 1: But you it's not only just that it's so busy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's that the games mean absolutely nothing and you're forced
Speaker 1: to act like they mean something. It's the highest ratio
Speaker 1: of working hard to like, we have very fun jobs,
Speaker 1: but they're more fun September to February. It's also really
Speaker 1: hot at a lot of the training camps when you
Speaker 1: go to cover them, so sometimes it's a little uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: But you know what I mean, for the most part,
Speaker 1: we're talking about football, so it's not bad. It's not
Speaker 1: bad at all. I think what you guys are getting to.
Speaker 1: It's the time of the year where there's the most
Speaker 1: chefs trying to influence the pot, and then once the
Speaker 1: season starts, those those guys start to realize that the dish,
Speaker 1: you know, the dish is gonna get made no matter what,
Speaker 1: and they can kind of pull back. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get to some odds and ends. Oh, I'm saying odds
Speaker 1: and ends, odds and ends. Hey, everybody tell your friends
Speaker 1: about odds and damn ends it. That was definitely the
Speaker 1: closest odds and ends. Odds and ends. Hey, everybody tell
Speaker 1: your friends because the time now this is all off it.
Speaker 1: Forget it. I don't want you to get it right. No,
Speaker 1: it's never gonna happen. I was actually this morning, like practicing.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, what if I can't remember how
Speaker 1: the song goes? But I'm like, okay, maybe I can
Speaker 1: try some variations. When two characters get together on a
Speaker 1: long running TV show and ultimately the tension is then
Speaker 1: ended and it gets worse, you're not getting the song right,
Speaker 1: is the whole key? And there it has no news.
Speaker 1: There's been no new it was that's significant for an
Speaker 1: entire week. So it's just that now. I know. I
Speaker 1: woke up this morning at seven thirty and started stressing out,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what are we going to talk
Speaker 1: about today? Let's go through some news and it was nothing.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, Kiko Alonso's looking forward to a
Speaker 1: big year with the Dolphins. I know it's always a
Speaker 1: quiet time of year, but I think this is like
Speaker 1: the quietest quiet time of year we've ever had, and
Speaker 1: I love it. It's fine. Really, yeah, well that's great. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get into uh our first item. Here, USC's Sam Donald,
Speaker 1: who we keep hearing about apparently is no lock for
Speaker 1: the upcoming draft. Several sources close to Donald told our
Speaker 1: own Daniel Jeremiah they wouldn't be surprised if Donald played
Speaker 1: two more seasons at USC as a red shirt sophomore,
Speaker 1: he can declare for the draft as early as eighteen.
Speaker 1: What do you think about this with Rosie? I am delighted,
Speaker 1: first of all, because it ruins all the whole scamp
Speaker 1: for Sam Jets. I don't know Sam's driving that jet,
Speaker 1: turning it back around and landed in l A twelve minutes.
Speaker 1: This is unsettling before it always has been. I think
Speaker 1: maybe it's been the back of my head and probably
Speaker 1: others that everyone's just assuming this guy, first of all,
Speaker 1: that he stays this good which is and is that
Speaker 1: top of a prospect, but that he's definitely going to
Speaker 1: come out. He's just what a red shirt sophomore, so
Speaker 1: that this makes sense? I mean, why is that a
Speaker 1: hundred percent decision that he's definitely coming. It's not the
Speaker 1: first time on this podcast that we've raised the likelihood
Speaker 1: that Sam Donalds stays in school, and it's an interesting
Speaker 1: conundrum for all those teams gunning for the number one pick,
Speaker 1: the Jets, which are doing it more actively than any
Speaker 1: team I remember since I've been watching football, uh, because
Speaker 1: we saw move the sticks. Daniel Jeremiah reports around Combine
Speaker 1: time that executives and scouts were talking about this guy
Speaker 1: more than the guys coming out in the two thousand
Speaker 1: and seventeen draft class. And you know, the Spice Rack,
Speaker 1: who I hold in a high regard, says it's Sam
Speaker 1: Donald is the real deal and it can't miss prospects.
Speaker 1: So that means a lot. But then you know, land
Speaker 1: zer Line came out with an article today saying, don't
Speaker 1: write off everyone but Sam Donald in the competition to
Speaker 1: be number one, which we see in most years, the
Speaker 1: guy who's the favorite to go number one often doesn't
Speaker 1: go there. And it's it's a lot to put on
Speaker 1: somebody who's only started one year of college football. He's
Speaker 1: living and playing in Los Angeles, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy is gonna win Theyman Trophy and he's gonna
Speaker 1: be the started quarterback and franchise savior for the New
Speaker 1: York Jets next year. Like this is all fore gone.
Speaker 1: We know the lot gonna happen. A lot can happen
Speaker 1: in the year. Uh last time. This time last year,
Speaker 1: Brad Kaya, the Miami quarterback, was being projected as a player.
Speaker 1: He went all the way around in the fifth, sixth
Speaker 1: round and nice light years what are we going to
Speaker 1: do there, but have so much more time to talk
Speaker 1: about it. It's gonna change. Like just look at the
Speaker 1: combine going into the combine to Shaun Kai. There was
Speaker 1: the number one quarterback, everybody loved him, and then so
Speaker 1: much change just over the course of those workouts. So
Speaker 1: by DJ, it's you know, coming back from vacation and
Speaker 1: making a little NFL news. Well, he was, he was out,
Speaker 1: he was watching him, he was he was up in
Speaker 1: the opening up in berigin Oregon and watched him and
Speaker 1: he that was supposedly the best workout of any quarterback
Speaker 1: up there's ever ever, ever, any quarterback ever ever. I
Speaker 1: am Donald is that dude? We can talk about Daniel
Speaker 1: Jeremiah too because Dan's not here. So that's a nice
Speaker 1: luxury that we have. Shout out to DJ. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on to Tom Brady. He did he confirm
Speaker 1: Giselle's concussion claims here uh. In an interview with ESPN,
Speaker 1: is Kevin to Gandhi Um for an E sixty he said, quote,
Speaker 1: she's there every day. We go to bed in the
Speaker 1: same bed every night, so I think she knows what.
Speaker 1: I'm sure she knows. When I'm tired. She knows when
Speaker 1: I get hit. He's releasing a new book. Um, I mean, obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm ho. I I assume that they leap in the
Speaker 1: same bed every night, and I didn't think that they
Speaker 1: were like the couple that was sleeping in separate bedrooms. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but um, it sounds like it's it's a affirmation of it.
Speaker 1: Go ahead. This is another story that the entire industry
Speaker 1: has gotten wrong. This is not about whether the Patriots
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady are hiding something. It's about what is
Speaker 1: a concussion and what's not. And you can diagnose quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and other players with multiple concussions every single game if
Speaker 1: that's your threshold for a concussion, But the threshold for
Speaker 1: a concussion isn't that in the NFL. Until you come
Speaker 1: up with a working definition for a concussion that everybody
Speaker 1: agrees to, these stories are gonna pop up all the time,
Speaker 1: and that's probably impossible, and that this issue is impossible.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was interesting just because I feel
Speaker 1: like two or three years ago would have been a
Speaker 1: bigger story that Tom. You know, it actually wasn't that
Speaker 1: big of a story that Tom Brady's wife said that
Speaker 1: he's had concussions in the last few years. You know,
Speaker 1: the greatest player of all time is playing despite unreported concussions,
Speaker 1: and people kind of like dismissed it some some way
Speaker 1: because it was his wife saying it, which is like,
Speaker 1: who would know more than his wife? And then he,
Speaker 1: I mean, he confirmed it here. He's Tom Brady is
Speaker 1: never going to say anything that gets his team or
Speaker 1: himself in trouble. But he confirmed, you know, he confirmed
Speaker 1: it here. I don't know if people were thinking twice
Speaker 1: about it because it was Giselle that was saying. And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people just assume that football
Speaker 1: players get concussions when they're playing football. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not difficult to get a concussion. I'm sure I've had
Speaker 1: a concussion before. Have you guys had a concussion? Like,
Speaker 1: I never been diagnosed with anything, but I I just
Speaker 1: leave it up to the physicians. Yeah, as I had
Speaker 1: a fractured skull, I'm sure he do. We talked about this, well,
Speaker 1: if you had a fractured skull, I'm pretty sure you
Speaker 1: had a concussion. Yeah, Look, you can feel it right
Speaker 1: there if you I didn't, this happen and mine was
Speaker 1: right there too, and it was I looked like the
Speaker 1: elephant man. Yeah, forehead was like two inches out. Me too,
Speaker 1: it looked like there was an egg under my skull.
Speaker 1: This happened during your days as the Flyers ice girls,
Speaker 1: which is true that you were listen. I was in college,
Speaker 1: and I think that's you've You've come closer to professional
Speaker 1: sports than anyone else. And so I, yes, I was
Speaker 1: a Flyer's ice girl when I was in college because
Speaker 1: I didn't have a job. And uh, they basically, the
Speaker 1: Flyers hired a bunch of girls who didn't know how
Speaker 1: to skate and then decided that they were going to
Speaker 1: give them lessons to teach them how to skate, and
Speaker 1: they were supposed to like go out and I don't
Speaker 1: do stuff on the ice or whatever. And then they
Speaker 1: realized that this was going to be a major undertaking.
Speaker 1: So my I had a family friend that worked at
Speaker 1: a sports radio station and I used to be a
Speaker 1: competitive figure skater, so she was like, Hey, do you
Speaker 1: want a job with the Flyers. You just have to
Speaker 1: like stand by the zamboni shoot with the ice crew
Speaker 1: and then during the TV time outs, go out and
Speaker 1: scrape up the ice around the nets and like next
Speaker 1: to the bench. And I was like, they're gonna pay
Speaker 1: me to go to every Home Flyers game and just
Speaker 1: like stand at the zamboni shoot. Yeah. Okay, so it
Speaker 1: was awesome, but it definitely I didn't get a concussion
Speaker 1: from that, Thank god. I got it. Uh playing softball
Speaker 1: and a girl, her name was Colleen. She had an
Speaker 1: aluminum bat and she practiced swung into my forehead as
Speaker 1: I was walking by. Oh, I think evil Colleen was
Speaker 1: trying to take you out. I know it was awful. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. I remember this story from last year when
Speaker 1: you were playing softball. Yeah, because I I can't be
Speaker 1: a game. Yeah, And Dan was like I don't understand.
Speaker 1: Why don't you want to be the catcher? And I
Speaker 1: was like, I've had a traumatic incident with a bat
Speaker 1: that closed in my head. I can't do it. Um.
Speaker 1: So yeah, concussions, how about it everybody? But yeah, getting
Speaker 1: back to like when you when you are thinking about
Speaker 1: the team, team, and to some instance the doctors, like
Speaker 1: Gel gets a view that they all don't get, Like
Speaker 1: Tom's job is to be a quarterback, to walk around
Speaker 1: the facility to talk to people, but she's the only
Speaker 1: one that sees him dealing with his kids, making the
Speaker 1: coffee maker getting the milk out of the fridge, and
Speaker 1: as Tom intimated, there she has access to that information
Speaker 1: that nobody else did, right, And it's sort of an
Speaker 1: unsolvable problem. Not that you don't want to try to
Speaker 1: keep getting better, but we are at a point now
Speaker 1: where I think players are have a lot of information
Speaker 1: about concussions. The NFL does a lot to try to
Speaker 1: prevent concussions, a lot of it is on some of
Speaker 1: it is still going to be on the players to
Speaker 1: report their own concussion. And I just thought it's an
Speaker 1: interesting dichotomy of a guy who's releasing a book, the
Speaker 1: TV twelve Method, how to achieve a lifetime of the
Speaker 1: stained peak performance, that he's all about health. Mark Sessler's
Speaker 1: has his recipes and he's going to be doing a
Speaker 1: great piece, uh you know coming up, you know, going
Speaker 1: by his diet and everything. But there is a weird
Speaker 1: dichotomy of someone who could not be more concerned about
Speaker 1: his health that's still willing to take the risks of
Speaker 1: permanent brain damage every time he steps on the field,
Speaker 1: and then maybe exacerbated by not reporting uh concussions while
Speaker 1: he's playing, because what is more risky for long year
Speaker 1: long term health than having concussions, and and you can't,
Speaker 1: like you wouldn't expect for him to give up that
Speaker 1: competitiveness and change who he is as a person. But
Speaker 1: it is a it's a weird dichotomy. I think that's
Speaker 1: simplistic to say not reporting concussions. I don't think he
Speaker 1: knew at the time he was concussed. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's until afterwards where he's like, you know what, when
Speaker 1: I was feeling that way at night, I was probably concussed.
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's about reporting it or not
Speaker 1: reporting it. I think it's a very complex, nuanced gray area.
Speaker 1: Well that's that, But that's partly not true because at
Speaker 1: that point you go into the team, you report it,
Speaker 1: and it gets reported on the injury report as a concussion,
Speaker 1: and you go into the protocol and he hasn't ever
Speaker 1: done that. So it so at on some level, your bodies,
Speaker 1: your body is a very complex organism. Take it from
Speaker 1: someone who's going through something weird right now, I don't
Speaker 1: ever know what's going on with my body, and I
Speaker 1: could not tell you. The most exacerbating part of what
Speaker 1: I'm going through is not knowing from day to day,
Speaker 1: what's going to happen with my own body? And I
Speaker 1: think that Tom Birdie probably did not know. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: really think that it's gonna have to take the science
Speaker 1: catching up to a point where we can just sit
Speaker 1: somebody on a machine and say this is what happened,
Speaker 1: this is when it happened, and then we can go
Speaker 1: from there until until then, it's just this. It's a
Speaker 1: circular version of this conversation. Yea, by the way, West,
Speaker 1: how are you feeling? You look good? I can't eat,
Speaker 1: that's the problem. It's it changes from day to day,
Speaker 1: Like I'm down thirty pounds and I have no energy.
Speaker 1: Crap pounds in six weeks. Yeah, you know, I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you. A month ago, I felt guilty because
Speaker 1: cancer really hadn't affected my quality of life at all,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, cancer is not so bad, you know,
Speaker 1: And now the last three weeks I'm just like, this
Speaker 1: is this is kind of hell. You. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: the inability to eat and drink because of the radiation
Speaker 1: swelling my esophagus and radiations over. It ended Monday, thank god.
Speaker 1: But in your chemo treatments are over on Friday. Right
Speaker 1: on Friday, will be my last one, and doctors said,
Speaker 1: don't expect the eating and drinking to get better in
Speaker 1: a week, but in two to three weeks you should
Speaker 1: start to feel pretty normal again. Really, so then at
Speaker 1: that point I'll meet with the surgeon and we'll probably
Speaker 1: decide to have surgery in August, get all that bad
Speaker 1: cancer out of my body and hopefully resume normal quality
Speaker 1: of life. Well, we're glad you're here. We're glad that
Speaker 1: the radiation and the chemo are coming to an end,
Speaker 1: and hopefully you're going to be able to eat again soon.
Speaker 1: You know what you're like when you're finally feeling better,
Speaker 1: do you do? You know what you want to eat?
Speaker 1: I have been dreaming of cheeseburger, Yes, I really maybe?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes? Okay? Alright? West West is like the
Speaker 1: toughest guy I know, even before this off, he said
Speaker 1: he he's felt that the last you know, three weeks,
Speaker 1: And for him to say that, no, it has to
Speaker 1: be serious. And yet he was still out there last
Speaker 1: last week, and we have gotten some tweet death out
Speaker 1: there playing softball and being a contributor to a big
Speaker 1: Shield blowout victory. I played the first three or four
Speaker 1: innings and then just had no energy. And I heard
Speaker 1: the standing coach because Dan wasn't there, say Greg come
Speaker 1: out of the game. And I said, no, no no, no, Greg,
Speaker 1: stay in the game. West come out of the game.
Speaker 1: Then we had a pretty commanding lead, and I said,
Speaker 1: my work is done. I I thought I was gonna
Speaker 1: keel over right there on the field, like just like
Speaker 1: Fate from lack of energy. So yeah, I was happy
Speaker 1: that we won. It was a big game. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to go through it without me tonight because I
Speaker 1: know I can't make it through tonight. What's the record
Speaker 1: right now? We are five and four, so right on
Speaker 1: the borderline of the playoffs. Three games left. Three games?
Speaker 1: Oh man, down the stretch. All right, let's get back
Speaker 1: to some football. Sammy Watkins uh, he believes the draft
Speaker 1: class of will quote change the market. We gotta get
Speaker 1: paid more, Watkins said, Now this is coming after and
Speaker 1: be a free agency. A lot of the players are
Speaker 1: watching these massive contracts that the basketball players are getting
Speaker 1: and they're saying, I mean, our league generates more money,
Speaker 1: it's a more dangerous sport. We should be getting paid
Speaker 1: just like them, if not more. And there's a ton
Speaker 1: of guys coming up for deals, Jenevian Clowney, Khalil Mack,
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, Taylor, Luana to back Um, the list goes on.
Speaker 1: So this is going to be a star studded class
Speaker 1: with a lot of dollar signs. There's football players do
Speaker 1: deserve more money, but there's several issues with this. You're
Speaker 1: paying at least fifty three, oftentimes ninety players in football.
Speaker 1: NBA teams are paying twelve to fifteen players. It's a
Speaker 1: lot different baseball to Baseball has got a much smaller
Speaker 1: roster than football. You can't afford to pay players as
Speaker 1: much money, so that's part of it. And football players
Speaker 1: are never gonna get guaranteed contracts. It's just never gonna
Speaker 1: happen because of the injury risk. If if, if if
Speaker 1: a few players, at least if a quarterback could say
Speaker 1: a group of quarterbacks established the point where I'm gonna
Speaker 1: play for a guarantee contract, which is whatever it is.
Speaker 1: Let's say Kirk Cousins wants to do that, and he
Speaker 1: can say that this is coming up, this is for me,
Speaker 1: then maybe somebody else can say I want that Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: There's been rumors about that for quarterbacks, especially that Andrew
Speaker 1: luck was going to get a fully guaranteed didn't didn't,
Speaker 1: hasn't happened. I think it would be hard to find
Speaker 1: a GM willing to do that because then they face
Speaker 1: fire from all every other GM and owner in the league.
Speaker 1: But that's that's where it's got to start. Because not
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins. No, probably not what Kirk, but but
Speaker 1: for the argument, like, there's two sides of that argument
Speaker 1: with we can't guarantee players contracts because they're it's so dangerous. Well,
Speaker 1: the the opposite side of that is you should guarantee
Speaker 1: players contracts because they are so dangerous. Well. And the
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins thing just stuck out to me just because
Speaker 1: it reminded me how the NBA is has a better
Speaker 1: hot stove than the NFL at this point, maybe they
Speaker 1: always have. The NBA also has a better hot stove
Speaker 1: than regular season somewhereas football's regular season is really good, right,
Speaker 1: and and they do have such a compelling Uh it's
Speaker 1: not about the money being spent, but it just got
Speaker 1: me that, like, you know, it's at the wrong time
Speaker 1: a year for the NBA, but it is there's something
Speaker 1: to it. I mean, there's there if you could somehow
Speaker 1: engineer in a way to have a little more player
Speaker 1: movement or or free up away that there can be
Speaker 1: more trades there has been in the NFL than that
Speaker 1: would be a good thing. The NFL also has historically
Speaker 1: and currently the weakest union of the baseball and basketball.
Speaker 1: I mean, baseball has possibly the strongest union in America.
Speaker 1: They get what they want. Basketball has got a fairly
Speaker 1: strong union. It is the NFL always loses to the owners.
Speaker 1: There's like a lot of complety, like real reasons for it,
Speaker 1: but it is always weird, Like George Hill make you know,
Speaker 1: is going to have a better contract than Tom Brady
Speaker 1: or whoever it is. You know, some a million exam
Speaker 1: there's some generic left handed reliever will make more than Tom.
Speaker 1: But but the whole I think we're you're looking at
Speaker 1: Greg is there's a whole genre of an NBA season
Speaker 1: that we don't really get for an NFL play, Like
Speaker 1: there's you can have twenty or thirty NBA guys bet
Speaker 1: on themselves because the BET's less risky. Yeah, it's harder
Speaker 1: for an NFL player to say, oh, you know, I'll
Speaker 1: take some money this year and hope to get it
Speaker 1: next year, Like, if I don't get this money now,
Speaker 1: I might never get paid. And players, really good teams
Speaker 1: never let players that they want to keep leave, Like
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins is an interesting case because he sort of
Speaker 1: has had to have have struggles and and annoy the
Speaker 1: Bills in some way to even be looking at that
Speaker 1: free agency market next year. And yet if he did
Speaker 1: make it, he probably would make as much money as
Speaker 1: Julio Jones or AJ Green because because good players don't
Speaker 1: make it to the free agent market like that, that's true.
Speaker 1: One of the guys from that class, Gabe Jackson, he
Speaker 1: signed a five year extension worth a reported fifty six
Speaker 1: million dollars, So they were just waiting basically to sign
Speaker 1: Derek Carr. Then came Gabe Jackson, and apparently Car left
Speaker 1: some money on the table bow four Jackson so he
Speaker 1: could get that deal and everything, and everybody is very
Speaker 1: happy in raiders Land, Pro Bowl, Probowl caliber guard in
Speaker 1: his prime on one of the best offensive lines in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, it's a great line. I mean, another
Speaker 1: positive thing about the Raiders there for the past three days,
Speaker 1: in separate news hits said that gave Jackson says that
Speaker 1: Derek Carr is the most selfless person he's ever met. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's Gandhi. You've been kind of reshaping some gave Jackson,
Speaker 1: not reshaping Greg. I've said that verbatim three days the
Speaker 1: Gandhi quarterbacks. Are you about to say that again? And
Speaker 1: about is about to run downstairs? And I actually was
Speaker 1: on a news shift the day that Derek Carr signed
Speaker 1: his deal and I reworked David Carr's tweet about buying
Speaker 1: him lunch many times over. They they're still looking for
Speaker 1: a right tackle, but they built a offensive line from scratch.
Speaker 1: Regie mackenzie did mostly with free agents, but with collecchi
Speaker 1: Assemily Donald, Ben Ronald Rodney Hudson and Gabe Jackson in
Speaker 1: the draft now probably the best, maybe the best line.
Speaker 1: Do you think it's better than the Cowboys, especially with
Speaker 1: the I mean no, I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: are writing off the Cowboys and they shouldn't just be
Speaker 1: gonna go through the magic of editing. The listeners might
Speaker 1: not even know. Maybe come maybe come back up if
Speaker 1: it doesn't take long, okay, by I don't know. Like
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, you could argue have the best left tackle,
Speaker 1: best guard, and best center in the NFL. It's hard
Speaker 1: to beat that. Yeah, it's it's a strong line. I
Speaker 1: mean that's great too for Derek Carr. I love what
Speaker 1: the organization has done to keep them all together. It's
Speaker 1: i mean awesome for their offense. Yeah, you're you're right.
Speaker 1: Like now I'm trying to like compare the two lines.
Speaker 1: Do you write the Cowboys have to get the edge
Speaker 1: because they might have the best three guys at three
Speaker 1: separate positions. They do have two question marks this year
Speaker 1: that sort of brings them down. You're gonna have, but
Speaker 1: Collins was a very highly tower. Yeah, who is now
Speaker 1: going to be their right tackle position. He hasn't played
Speaker 1: as could be an upgrade on He could be great
Speaker 1: like he I'm writing about him just briefly as kind
Speaker 1: of a guy who's kind of a key to to
Speaker 1: their team, kind of a guy people have forgotten about.
Speaker 1: Like if if he's as good as they once thought,
Speaker 1: and he's ever played tackle at the NFL level, so
Speaker 1: maybe he's gonna be awesome. That's what he played left tackle, Uh,
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's a difference maker and they're better,
Speaker 1: like what you know, watch out. But if you know,
Speaker 1: if he ends up being a weak spot, and they've
Speaker 1: got a new left guard. Maybe they won't be quite
Speaker 1: as good as they've been in the past. Where and
Speaker 1: when can we read this piece? This is the post
Speaker 1: type All Stars. I believe it's riding. That's been a
Speaker 1: Greg staple going bringing it back. Okay, all right, let's
Speaker 1: talk about some Eagles stuff. So the Eagles they cut
Speaker 1: Doroyle Green Beckham. Uh. They're trying to get that wide
Speaker 1: receiver corps settled. They brought in all Sean Jeffrey obviously,
Speaker 1: and Tori Smith. Matthews is there. They low key they
Speaker 1: fired their wide receiver coach, Greg Lewis hired a new guy.
Speaker 1: I think that might help because they had just one
Speaker 1: wide receiver last year with more than thirty six catches
Speaker 1: last season. That was abysmal, So d GB not in
Speaker 1: the mix anymore. Greg Lewis was on the receiving end
Speaker 1: of one one of the most amazing last second victories
Speaker 1: in NFL history, on a Brett far pass in the
Speaker 1: back of the end zone, which was spectacular. Look that
Speaker 1: up everywhere Google Far up to Greg Lewis game winner.
Speaker 1: This is more interesting than it is. I kind of
Speaker 1: like that story. I thought what you were gonna say,
Speaker 1: is Greg Lewis, I caught one of the more meaningless
Speaker 1: last minute touchdowns in a very nice catch as well.
Speaker 1: Uh in Super Bowl. That's what I was thinking too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he cut the touchdown that that cut the lead late
Speaker 1: in that Patriots Eagles game after Donovan mcnabbs, you know,
Speaker 1: seven night. I remember very well probably not going to
Speaker 1: achieve as much as as Greg Lewis despite a lot
Speaker 1: of probably not hype in his career. I don't blame
Speaker 1: them for China trade from though they gave him nothing.
Speaker 1: Yeah the Eagles, Yeah, they gave up an offensive um.
Speaker 1: The Eagles also can avoid paying Ryan Matthews and injury
Speaker 1: settlement by waiting until he's medically cleared to release him.
Speaker 1: That stems from the neck injury that he suffered last year.
Speaker 1: So he could be a free agent soon. And I
Speaker 1: don't know what's the best case scenario for him, because
Speaker 1: I don't know how serious it is. I I threw
Speaker 1: that in there because it's it's just a story I
Speaker 1: almost forgot about at this point that he still rostis.
Speaker 1: That explains why it shows how hardcore, how tough the
Speaker 1: NFL is. To Patrick's point earlier about guaranteed contracts that there.
Speaker 1: They just don't want to pay him money, so they're
Speaker 1: gonna wait till he can pass a test from like
Speaker 1: the you know, life affecting neck injury that he's going
Speaker 1: to have, so that they can pay him less money,
Speaker 1: and he probably won't. Who knows, maybe he won't get
Speaker 1: a job. I mean it's tough to get a job
Speaker 1: as a running back with neck injuries. Yeah, that's neck
Speaker 1: injury is gonna be tough for him. And I'm looking
Speaker 1: through the rosters now, I don't see a team that's
Speaker 1: like so desperate at running back that they would run
Speaker 1: out and sign him. Ravens came to mind. Maybe you're
Speaker 1: not desk. I mean, they can get by. But the
Speaker 1: Giants that they're going to be without Kenneth Dixon earlier
Speaker 1: in the year, maybe they give Ryan Matthews a shot.
Speaker 1: It's weird because I think it was Darren Sprowles who
Speaker 1: was quoted as talking about la Garrett Blunt and Ryan
Speaker 1: Matthews sharing the workload. Yeah, but that's just a good guy.
Speaker 1: I I read that too. I read that as a
Speaker 1: good guy talking about his friend in a respectful way,
Speaker 1: even if he knows that's maybe not likely. You're not
Speaker 1: going to talk about like the guy like he's not there,
Speaker 1: he's still on the team. It's a weird it's a
Speaker 1: weird situation. Okay, uh, not a weird situation. Actually, this
Speaker 1: is a weird situation there. So there was a firework
Speaker 1: that he's really are because a misfired fireworks shell exploded
Speaker 1: at Nissan Stadium, which is the Titan Stadium. Now, I
Speaker 1: mean when I first read this, I was thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: you know you a lot of times on July four
Speaker 1: here like things outside of your house and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what was that? And then it turns
Speaker 1: out to be nothing. It was just something that like
Speaker 1: barely miss your house. This blew out concrete and some
Speaker 1: seats in the upper deck. What are we going here?
Speaker 1: I know, why are we allowed? Why is it legal
Speaker 1: to shoot off something that can take out concrete and
Speaker 1: seats in the stadium. Yeah, I think you're saying, what
Speaker 1: are we doing here? Why are we talking? A little
Speaker 1: bit of a little bit it occurred to me, but
Speaker 1: I just thought we should have our fourth of July
Speaker 1: NFL disaster story of year. I mean, this isn't ask
Speaker 1: No one was injured. It just her. You know, so
Speaker 1: no one lost any fingers or anything like that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: this comes from a room where nobody watched the fireworks.
Speaker 1: Nobody did anybody see one firework? Seen one? You've seen
Speaker 1: them all? I mean, alright, still go to bed like early,
Speaker 1: they'll they'll be ready for it. What other seven century
Speaker 1: technology still exists today? I mean I had to sit
Speaker 1: and just hold my dog for hours on end. He
Speaker 1: was shaking so bad from the fireworks. It's awful. He
Speaker 1: hates July four and New Year's I think the kids,
Speaker 1: it's fun for kids by all means, go have fun
Speaker 1: watching fireworks. Adults who get all geeked up about it.
Speaker 1: Calm down. I love fireworks because I love solid Calmed down.
Speaker 1: I don't think fireworks mean you love America. Now it's
Speaker 1: fireworks at at ten o'clock are fine. The two o'clock
Speaker 1: it sounds like a word zone outside my window is
Speaker 1: not okay while they're taking out concrete and seats. My
Speaker 1: brother used to like bring home fireworks from Maryland and
Speaker 1: like you would buy them in bulk and then drive
Speaker 1: home and keep them in the basement, and my parents
Speaker 1: would find them and be like, what the hell is
Speaker 1: this tim and they would try and get rid of
Speaker 1: all the fireworks. Maybe, yeah, maybe maybe I'll change if
Speaker 1: I get older. But yeah, fireworks seem similar to me,
Speaker 1: Like the people that get they love the fireworks celebration,
Speaker 1: but don't have kids, but they're adults. Seemed like the
Speaker 1: same type that, like the adults that go to Disneyland
Speaker 1: but without kids. That's really Oh, we just took a
Speaker 1: shot at our former producer. She's on the borderline. I
Speaker 1: love Sydney. She knows that she's still growing. I still
Speaker 1: think still as a kid here for the Mickey Mouse boys,
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it or even like the fourth Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like we went to the Fourth of July parade,
Speaker 1: I did that, which was that Santa Monica. It's down
Speaker 1: me great. The kids love that. Even that one seems
Speaker 1: a little like I don't know if I would just
Speaker 1: go to that. I just as an adult, you need
Speaker 1: the kids there. I do think if you going to
Speaker 1: have a proper Fourth of July party, it's important to
Speaker 1: have at least one fireworks guy in the mix. You
Speaker 1: know who they are. Would be one guy who knows
Speaker 1: how to handle fireworks, and it's pretty safe around him too.
Speaker 1: He's been doing it his whole life, you know, and
Speaker 1: he gets it. He gets a thrill out of you
Speaker 1: gotta have a fireworks. Tally has like the biggest grin
Speaker 1: on his face right now. Did you set off any fireworks? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have fireworks. I could look at Sally, I could
Speaker 1: just like look at your profile picture on Twitter or whatever. No,
Speaker 1: you're the fireworks guy, like I just I just know
Speaker 1: you are. Yeah, I like fireworks. They're fun. Finally, and finally,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, he's going to be going into the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame and he chose his wife as his presenter
Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame. So, um, maybe we do
Speaker 1: a little who would you choose for this big offer?
Speaker 1: And maybe we should keep spouses and significant others out
Speaker 1: of it, because that feel like okay, I mean I would,
Speaker 1: I guess I know you would go Amica would Why
Speaker 1: did you do that? If you're gonna if you're gonna
Speaker 1: choose a significant other spouse, you have to choose somebody
Speaker 1: else too. Well. I would not my wife. I would
Speaker 1: not choose my wife because the last thing she would
Speaker 1: want to do is like public speaking in front of
Speaker 1: a lot of people, like she would they hate me
Speaker 1: to ask where, No, seriously, Like, I'm sure that goes
Speaker 1: into the presenting decisions. It's kind of you know, you
Speaker 1: want you want someone to do it that wants that
Speaker 1: wants to do it. She would absolutely not. Wasn't Kurt Warner,
Speaker 1: isn't his wife Ovisually it's a lot of times it's
Speaker 1: a teammate. Oh, yeah, that's true. I didn't really think
Speaker 1: about this question. But I didn't think about it. I
Speaker 1: didn't even see it till now. That's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1: I would choose someone that nobody knows my husband John. Oh, well,
Speaker 1: this way people could get introduced to him. That's true.
Speaker 1: You guys know John right, John Poe mar twelve. It
Speaker 1: is an American sports writer, was married NFL media broadcaster
Speaker 1: College Wolf. John was as resides in Los Angeles with
Speaker 1: his wife and jew dogs. So there's an option. Well,
Speaker 1: in my head, I'm thinking that it's like somehow a
Speaker 1: work hall of fame. I guess I don't know it
Speaker 1: would it would be cool to like have, like I think,
Speaker 1: write a song for me. And I'm not just saying
Speaker 1: oh that would be good. Right, A celebrity too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got the Philly involved with Yeah, I love the roots.
Speaker 1: West would be a strong I'm not just saying this
Speaker 1: because you're here. West West would be a pretty I
Speaker 1: think it might be my pick just because Hartly, because
Speaker 1: we've had a lot of time together that he's been
Speaker 1: with me on both sides at Rhoda World and here,
Speaker 1: and if it's you know, if we're kind of talking
Speaker 1: about who better better the West words, he's a word smith. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying this either, but several people entered
Speaker 1: my mind and Greg was the first one. Wow, Now
Speaker 1: should I leave the room? Should I leave you alone?
Speaker 1: We want to pick this up here a little bit.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if you should let
Speaker 1: Dan know about those my oldest friend and the Catholic priests.
Speaker 1: That's really that's stiff competition. And the owner of hucka
Speaker 1: Poo's is one of my dearest friends and he's a
Speaker 1: great public speaker. So there would be there would be
Speaker 1: a few people I'd be choosing from, but Greg would
Speaker 1: definitely be right there, right there to the top. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like it's tough to decide. My co host
Speaker 1: of the Rosenthal and justin the project, there you go.
Speaker 1: Anthony would be a strong choice. But I don't think
Speaker 1: I would choose him. He just roast you the whole time,
Speaker 1: seemingly meaningful man, at least what he memorable. Then it
Speaker 1: would be, that would actually be. It could be. It
Speaker 1: could be one of the best speeches ever. He he roast.
Speaker 1: He basically roasted me at my own wedding. So really, yeah,
Speaker 1: more or less? Is there audio of that anywhere? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I hope not right there at the Delaware
Speaker 1: I know, damn it, you beat me the joke. It
Speaker 1: was alright, So West, you had an amazing idea in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night last night for a little
Speaker 1: game for us to play. And you know what that game?
Speaker 1: Miss Hello, We've been waiting for you. It's time to
Speaker 1: play the Holiday quarterback game. Whoa yeah, a little holiday
Speaker 1: quarterback game. Nice job, Sully, Little John C game. So
Speaker 1: you thought about this in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: Greg hit me up right before bad saying, you know,
Speaker 1: we we desperately need to come up with a segment
Speaker 1: for tomorrow. We got nothing and I was too tired
Speaker 1: to think about It's like feeling like hasn't You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to beat that out? Sully as an eight and
Speaker 1: all day and I'm bugging him at ten PM, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: can you do my job? Can you do our jobs
Speaker 1: for us? With I saw that text and I was
Speaker 1: like a lot of freshure. I don't know, unsung hero separate.
Speaker 1: I well, I sleep very weird hours now. So I
Speaker 1: woke up about three o'clock in the morning and I
Speaker 1: started watching All or Nothing and I thought, wait, we
Speaker 1: could do all or Nothing as their segment. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: this is Born's come up with something new. And I
Speaker 1: was reading Road a World and one of the Texans
Speaker 1: beat writers had a prediction that Tom Savage will be
Speaker 1: the quarterback at least until mid season, and I so badly,
Speaker 1: so badly wanted to tear that prediction down. So I
Speaker 1: invented this game. Alright, so Clay Bonne is back just
Speaker 1: in time for the game. So this is how the
Speaker 1: game is gonna work. We're gonna throw out some names,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna go around the room and say, will
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks last as the starter until this specific holiday?
Speaker 1: So we have a couple of holidays here, such as Halloween, Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: Labor Day, Chris Mis, Christmas, etcetera. All right, you guys, ready,
Speaker 1: there is a possibility some of these starting quarterbacks don't
Speaker 1: even make it the labor Day, which means they lose
Speaker 1: their job in the preseason. Are there any okay? I
Speaker 1: mean you you were the Milton Bradley of the game. Yes,
Speaker 1: Is there anything that Colleen kind of didn't interpret correctly?
Speaker 1: Oh no, she's all over this. Okay, So are we
Speaker 1: going by quarterback or are we going by holiday quarterback?
Speaker 1: We're just kind of flushing this out live. Is Claibons
Speaker 1: mic On, Let's get let's get claibon On he Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so let's start with Oh, Tom Savage, let's start with
Speaker 1: the guy who initiated the idea for this game. Right,
Speaker 1: So this beat writer predicts that he'll make it to
Speaker 1: mid season, And my first thought was, what do you knew?
Speaker 1: Seriously to the job to Bill O'Brien's career. Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: once benched his starting quarterback three quarters into the season opener.
Speaker 1: It was Brian horder Yer, who is a better quarterback
Speaker 1: than Tom saw. You don't know that, of course we do.
Speaker 1: He couldn't even beat out Brian Hoyer when they played
Speaker 1: for the same team. Also, he can't stay healthy for
Speaker 1: more than a game. At a time. Tom Savage will
Speaker 1: not last past I mean, I'd like to say Columbus Day,
Speaker 1: which is October nine, but we'll go Halloween. There's no
Speaker 1: way he's lasting past Halloween. They'll be injured by Yeah.
Speaker 1: The date that I was putting on our man Tom
Speaker 1: Savage is Veterans Day. Um, because looking at the schedule,
Speaker 1: I could say, all right, so he makes it passed Halloween,
Speaker 1: but not Yeah, because the situation that you're gonna have
Speaker 1: is when do you want your rookie quarterback making his
Speaker 1: first start? And one one spot that it could be
Speaker 1: is right after the game against the Chiefs. They there
Speaker 1: at home against the Browns, so we could go there.
Speaker 1: But you know, maybe they win a couple of games.
Speaker 1: Maybe Tom Savage saves his job. Bill comes out during
Speaker 1: the week, he does that thing where he lies about
Speaker 1: which quarterback is going to play, and then DeShawn gets
Speaker 1: to start. So yeah, Veterans Day is my pick. Is
Speaker 1: there anything to some Tom Savage understanding the system better
Speaker 1: than DeShawn because DeShawn is a rookie. Maybe, I mean
Speaker 1: they just need a game manager. They have all the
Speaker 1: pieces on offense, they have a defense, They just need
Speaker 1: somebody to not mess it up, and I don't know
Speaker 1: if Tom Savage can do that because it seems like
Speaker 1: he hasn't been able to do it in the past.
Speaker 1: Of course it's an advantage. The flying an ointment here
Speaker 1: is that Tom Savage isn't a very good football player,
Speaker 1: and he's one of these guys who Greg's gonna tell
Speaker 1: me you can't say that. But he's a lot like
Speaker 1: Zach Mettenberger. He moves so deliberately in the pocket, is
Speaker 1: slow to get rid of the ball. He's going to
Speaker 1: be sacked a lot, He's going to be injured a lot.
Speaker 1: The Texans are in a winnable division. They've won the
Speaker 1: Division two in the last three years. They want to
Speaker 1: win now. And the NFL season is episodic. Well then
Speaker 1: maybe is there Every week there is debate on the
Speaker 1: talk radio amongst the fans in the coaching staff. After
Speaker 1: every week they're gonna say we we can't win with
Speaker 1: this guy. At some point, I'm surprised you didn't say
Speaker 1: Columbus day. Then they do. They do have three That's
Speaker 1: when I first said that that they didn't have They
Speaker 1: have three straight home games Week four or five and six,
Speaker 1: and then a bye. So I'm gonna say Halloween because
Speaker 1: that by there at week seven, that's often a time
Speaker 1: you make changes. The only thing about Tom Savage is
Speaker 1: I hear you. I think he did a few nice
Speaker 1: things in his games. He didn't make mistake big mistakes
Speaker 1: in his game. All I'm saying is, let's just watch
Speaker 1: him before we say his career is over. He's barely played,
Speaker 1: he got hurt, uh the couple. We have to do
Speaker 1: that with every player in the league now, or what
Speaker 1: I mean. I don't decide on players too much until
Speaker 1: they play in the right We've seen him play. I've
Speaker 1: seen every throw of Tom Savage's career and there's been
Speaker 1: like sixty seventy of them, and I think he's played fine.
Speaker 1: What's the value of waiting until Zach Mettenberger loses his
Speaker 1: job before saying he's not very good? There's no value,
Speaker 1: and that whatsoever was more than enough for Jimmy Garoppolo
Speaker 1: to be the greatest. Like I think, I think, let's
Speaker 1: just give him a shot. I don't think. I think
Speaker 1: if you really look closely at his games last year,
Speaker 1: he had the one game where we got all excited,
Speaker 1: where he played played pretty well. He had the Bengals
Speaker 1: game where he when he came in and relief. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a much different thing. And starting the Bengals game
Speaker 1: where he didn't play well. But he also had the
Speaker 1: Bengals game which was one of the worst starts by
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the two thousand six but I think
Speaker 1: it was one of the worst offensive line games and
Speaker 1: he actually made he made his offensive line look way
Speaker 1: worse than they were. He held the ball ouch. One
Speaker 1: thing about Tom that I think I'm on the same
Speaker 1: level as Wester. I just want to see Tom Savage
Speaker 1: make a play like that would be nice, that would
Speaker 1: make me feel better about him. Keeping he made plays
Speaker 1: in that game. He came in and threw a couple
Speaker 1: deep down the field that DeAndre Hopkins plays outside the
Speaker 1: sideline that just weren't being made before. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: he's gonna be good. I was just gonna watch him
Speaker 1: significant accuracy accuracy issues going back to college and still
Speaker 1: in the pros. We also don't know if he's real.
Speaker 1: All Right, that's a lot of Tom Savage talk. That's
Speaker 1: enough for one day. Let's move on to Mike Lennon.
Speaker 1: Mike Lennon, I'm going I'm going to give Mike Lennon until, uh, Halloween.
Speaker 1: I feel like that, well, wait, yeah, Halloween, I'm giving
Speaker 1: him to Halloween. I feel like John Fox is kind
Speaker 1: of on the hot seat. He needs to make moves,
Speaker 1: and he's not going to have any problem putting Trabiskie
Speaker 1: in earlier. I mean, I think that he could put
Speaker 1: him in earlier than Halloween. I think Mike Glennon doesn't
Speaker 1: last until he doesn't play, doesn't start until after Halloween.
Speaker 1: M hmm. I'd give him till Thanksgiving. They paid him
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollars. Yeah, but I feel like the front
Speaker 1: office and the coaching staff are not on the same page.
Speaker 1: He's a lot more talented than Tom Savage, in my opinion.
Speaker 1: I think Glennon is ideally a high end backup quarterback,
Speaker 1: but he's better than Tom Savage. The problem is that
Speaker 1: I'm with you, and I'd like to see them be patient,
Speaker 1: and it doesn't make sense to me to rush mitch
Speaker 1: Ard Bisky. I don't know who's going to be making decisions,
Speaker 1: whether it's John Fox, but they start with Atlanta at
Speaker 1: Tampa versus you know, against the Steelers at Green Bay.
Speaker 1: It's like Vikings Ravens I guess there's no easy games
Speaker 1: for the Bears, But what's the best case scenario before
Speaker 1: they're by In the best case scenario, I would consider
Speaker 1: Mike Glennon and the Bears who have overachieved. If there
Speaker 1: are two and six heading into that by let's let's
Speaker 1: get weird. I've got it. I've got it. On Columbus Day,
Speaker 1: which falls on a Monday, which is the Monday Night
Speaker 1: football where they play the Vikings. Why not? Why not? Why?
Speaker 1: Why not? Why not have Mr Rubisky make his first
Speaker 1: NFL start on the Monday night football game? Where like it?
Speaker 1: Like he's like you mentioned Greg, I like it Abes
Speaker 1: Bucks at the Packers. I mean, like, what are the
Speaker 1: Bears gonna be playing for here? Come on, I'm rooting
Speaker 1: for Mike Glenning because I think he could be good.
Speaker 1: But you've convinced me that argument makes some sense to me,
Speaker 1: And I just wanted to stick it in Columbus's I
Speaker 1: it's the only holiday that we did not get a
Speaker 1: sound drop for, because, let's face it, Columbus Day. Come on,
Speaker 1: what you don't think Columbus Day deserves just saying it's
Speaker 1: not a real holiday. That's kind of like a it's
Speaker 1: like a Valentine's Day or something we can we can
Speaker 1: do better, but from four eighty to fifteen, we can
Speaker 1: probably find somebody that's more deserving over I. I completely
Speaker 1: agree in day or something, sard Thomas Payne day. Let's
Speaker 1: do it. Okay, what about Josh McCown. Europe. Oh, it's tough.
Speaker 1: It's tough with McCown because you're thinking, here's here's my
Speaker 1: McCown tinfoil hat. Just I'm just gonna put it on
Speaker 1: because Josh McCown is my duty's down for the cause.
Speaker 1: I think the Jets somehow in a crazy world wind
Speaker 1: up two and two and they realized like, hey, this
Speaker 1: is what this isn't what we want to do. It's
Speaker 1: so Josh McCown, Josh ac count is out of there
Speaker 1: because they're doing too well. Yeah, because because they want
Speaker 1: to get a you know, one of those quote unquote
Speaker 1: looks at the future. And so yeah, Josh McCown loses
Speaker 1: his job by mid August. Not not he doesn't even
Speaker 1: make it to Labor Day. Oh, he has to go.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of what's the holiday I'm looking for here? Columbia,
Speaker 1: Joshua Collen is out of there before Halloween. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go Labor Day. I love the reports that hack him
Speaker 1: and Hackenburg aren't actually that far apart, even though we
Speaker 1: heard that Hackenburg was hitting reporters on the scie fine
Speaker 1: with Eric throws, so it's just not a good scenario there.
Speaker 1: Their their wide receiver corps is abysmal, and I have
Speaker 1: no idea who the starting quarterback is going to pay
Speaker 1: well time honored o t a tradition, which quarterback is
Speaker 1: hitting the reporters. I love that storyline always. I always
Speaker 1: get r G three is throwing it in the backyards.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go even earlier than that Monday. It'll either
Speaker 1: be Monday, September eight or Tuesday. Uh. The nineteen options
Speaker 1: there is it's National Cheeseburger Day on the scene and
Speaker 1: tight we could be celebrating National Cheeseburger Day. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: yes we will be celebrating with West National Cheeseburger Day
Speaker 1: on the same day. Uh that they announced Christian Hackenburg
Speaker 1: is starting the home opener three because McCown maybe he
Speaker 1: got I actually think I don't want to you never
Speaker 1: want to predict an injury. But he has not been
Speaker 1: able to stay on the field. For very long because
Speaker 1: he plays with a very reckless uh style. This begs
Speaker 1: the question, then, at which holiday does Hackenburg get benched
Speaker 1: for petty? The very next one holiday comes that they
Speaker 1: have no holidays, it'll be one of those Instagram holidays.
Speaker 1: National bottle cap Day. Yeah, fun fact. Today is National
Speaker 1: fried Chicken Day. So sweet Greg's favorite food. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: really is, really, Yeah, fri chicken is. I would say
Speaker 1: fried chickens, fred chicken. Mexicans don't forget. These are very
Speaker 1: like general specific that's an eclect dinner, but it sounds sake.
Speaker 1: I mean steak would be up there. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think your deathbed meal, you know, like you're gonna get
Speaker 1: electrocuted or yeah, what what would that be? That was
Speaker 1: what we were talking about. And I said, ultimately, right now,
Speaker 1: I think it's changed over time, but I think I
Speaker 1: would just go like fried chicken and like a biscuit.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that would be so I think I'd
Speaker 1: have to go to breakfast. And now we're talking a
Speaker 1: nice pair of insulated gloves myself. Okay, okay, okay, let's
Speaker 1: go to Let's talk about the Browns and Cody Kessler.
Speaker 1: I'm giving him until labor day. I feel like I've
Speaker 1: given a lot of these guys until but it Deshaun
Speaker 1: Kaiser is going to be the guy that I think
Speaker 1: he's going to be there. Man, I don't think that
Speaker 1: they're going to be able to push him off that long.
Speaker 1: And Hugh Jackson we've been hearing about Cody Kessler having
Speaker 1: a hard time, uh like struggle ing with passes, being
Speaker 1: batted down at the line because he's too short and
Speaker 1: he falls under the threshold that Hugh Jackson likes and
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that's six to mark. So whatever, either way, I
Speaker 1: think is going to be the guy. Why the question
Speaker 1: to me after he drafted? Yeah, I think code. I
Speaker 1: think Kessler is better than people give him credit for.
Speaker 1: Really I do. I think he's ultimately going to be
Speaker 1: a backup in the NFL, but I think he can play.
Speaker 1: He's got he's got a little quote McCoy in and
Speaker 1: without the concussions. I'll give him to Halloween. I do
Speaker 1: think we're gonna see Kaiser this year. But I'm getting
Speaker 1: to Halloween. I had that very same holiday for for
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler. For I like the story because, like Alleen mentioned, Mike,
Speaker 1: this isn't the guy that Hugh really wanted on paper,
Speaker 1: But it's it's this relationship that's going to be forged.
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler, the the concussion free Colt McCoy is West
Speaker 1: Colt is gonna be out there slinging around and and
Speaker 1: maybe winning the Browns and football games. And told it
Speaker 1: it becomes time to you know, you have to go
Speaker 1: into the mode of let's see what he has and
Speaker 1: get to Shawn in the game, and then that that
Speaker 1: lovable story is going to be crushed under the weight.
Speaker 1: I wrote something that was mildly dismissive of Cody Kessler.
Speaker 1: It was so similar to what you said, that he
Speaker 1: played well, but but like better than people realize that
Speaker 1: maybe his future is as a really good backup. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I got some some real stat based information from
Speaker 1: his agent, a few emails, very polite, and he made
Speaker 1: a very slite Are you being an insider right now? No?
Speaker 1: He I just got the emails breaking news. It was
Speaker 1: not breaking. He made a compelling case of his rookie numbers,
Speaker 1: and he went through the things and it was his
Speaker 1: rookie year, and this, that and the other wasn't a
Speaker 1: great offensive line. If you wanted to make a case
Speaker 1: for Cody Kessler based on stats and some of the
Speaker 1: context around him lesser like you can make it if
Speaker 1: you're in the Cody Cusser. That's what I'm saying. Did
Speaker 1: those numbers from his agent include his high weight and
Speaker 1: Miles prow on sideline throws? That's tough. You've now changed
Speaker 1: my mind. I'm going to give him to Yum Kapoor
Speaker 1: because we have that September thirty. If I wish we
Speaker 1: had Prepperace, we have a Hanakah drop. I'm afraid no
Speaker 1: one's gonna make it to Hankah, So let's just play it.
Speaker 1: This is kind of creepy. What was that that a
Speaker 1: horror movie about it's children's singing dradal dradal drado. But
Speaker 1: again yea again, Hans, this would not like this. It
Speaker 1: sounds like something Mark picked out. Really, that's that's from
Speaker 1: the upcoming? Uh? What you were a little like a
Speaker 1: little Jewish troop like comes around the neighborhood singing your songs,
Speaker 1: but really they kill you children, children of their drad Yeah,
Speaker 1: when is this year Hanakah starts? I did went decemberwater
Speaker 1: on there. Yeah, I was going to give our next guy,
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer Hanakah. But I'm going to give him until Christmas. Yeah, Christmas,
Speaker 1: here's Matt Barkley. Yeah, I don't. I don't really see
Speaker 1: any of the other quarterbacks on the roster, uh starting
Speaker 1: ahead of him, plus him and Channa and they worked
Speaker 1: together for a year in Cleveland. Uh so he knows
Speaker 1: his system a little bit. So now is just a
Speaker 1: little bit of a refresher. And I mean, are the
Speaker 1: forty Niners really looking to do anything this year besides
Speaker 1: wait for Kirk Cousins. Possibly. I believe in Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 1: But if you look at the splits of Brian Hoyer's
Speaker 1: career first half of the season versus second half, it's
Speaker 1: night and day. He is an above average statistical quarterback
Speaker 1: in the first half of the season and one of
Speaker 1: the worst quarterbacks in the league in the second half
Speaker 1: of the season. I'm going Hanakah the old there we go.
Speaker 1: That sounds about right deep everybody, I think I'm going
Speaker 1: hanaka with a little maybe C J. Bethard action starts
Speaker 1: late in the year. We want to give him a look.
Speaker 1: I mean, they drafted him, why not? All right? Does
Speaker 1: anyone have any other wild cards they want to throw out? Quarterbacks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like the Paxton Lynch Trevor Simeon one. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say Simeon keeps the job and he takes it until
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving when the Broncos are out of the race. In
Speaker 1: the a f C West, I say, trev goes coast
Speaker 1: to coast. I had him at Labor Day that Trev's
Speaker 1: gonna get this job. And so Labor Day, labor days
Speaker 1: the start of September. You well, I'm saying the next
Speaker 1: Labor Day loses his job, loses the opportunity to get
Speaker 1: the job because Trevor is gonna take it at labor
Speaker 1: doing two holidays in there, I feel like, yeah, if Simmy,
Speaker 1: if they struggle, I feel like that the hook would
Speaker 1: be quick. So making it the whole season if he
Speaker 1: got the starting job makes some sort of sense to me,
Speaker 1: because I don't think they'll give him a long leash.
Speaker 1: I think I'll have to stay above five really playing well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Paxton Lynch winning the job. I don't
Speaker 1: know what that means for day or what, but I
Speaker 1: think that, well, that's not part of the game. Greg.
Speaker 1: I like Simeon better, but I just feel like they
Speaker 1: want to play well, I think as long as it's
Speaker 1: a healthy trove, you know. Yeah, this travel with the
Speaker 1: shoulder injury was really bad. Trevor with a shoulder injury
Speaker 1: behind a poorest offensive line and no running game was
Speaker 1: really big. Didn't work out? Do you want to throw
Speaker 1: in any other names? Tyrod Taylor, Jared GoF Is that disrespect?
Speaker 1: I Rod Taylor's New Year's New Year's takes it? I
Speaker 1: think so. Alex trying to get a contract Alex Smith,
Speaker 1: Halloween two hearts started beating Fasten. Yeah, actually no, Sally,
Speaker 1: that's the Halloween two you have to work on, all right, Gang,
Speaker 1: should we wrap up this quarterback game? I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: you on a plane, I know, I gotta go. All right,
Speaker 1: It's been real everybody, fun times, good times. Great to
Speaker 1: see everybody, and we're gonna do another podcast soon. I
Speaker 1: want to be here, but Tuesday, So for the Clay
Speaker 1: bond Man, the Mailman, the boss Man, Sully behind the Glass.
Speaker 1: Still Tuesday,