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Speaker 1: I got audios. I watched our YouTube videos. I watched,
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Speaker 1: which is still one of my favorite pieces of work.
Speaker 1: Get you ship out my iced tea or something, and
Speaker 1: then I remember what else I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1: Because my t I have like eighteen trainers because they
Speaker 1: all quit. They're like, oh, we can't do anything with
Speaker 1: this girl. So I have like three trainers go into
Speaker 1: a chocolate bell, like no I have. That's part also
Speaker 1: part of the reason I turned my Instagram comments off.
Speaker 1: My trainers would comment when I photographed food, like just
Speaker 1: like the big eyeball cunts. Although that's so funny. No
Speaker 1: one wants to take a picture of a salad like
Speaker 1: I do eat that, but that's not one you do.
Speaker 1: I see the lot of salads, so many sounds. I
Speaker 1: just fucking swallowed a bunch of waffles before you got
Speaker 1: over here. That's the thing. Like, I like, I haven't
Speaker 1: had pasta in years. I don't eat rice. I don't
Speaker 1: know so many trice last night. Oh man, it's so sad.
Speaker 1: Really yeah. No, And so my trainer said he was
Speaker 1: watching some of our videos, like when I came in
Speaker 1: yesterday and I was like, oh boy, and then he
Speaker 1: made a weird comment about an out but I was
Speaker 1: wearing it. I was like, oh, ship, I know that's
Speaker 1: why I get a girl trainer a guy guy. I
Speaker 1: never yeah, because I am so like, I'm so not
Speaker 1: familiar with how to train someone that the whole time
Speaker 1: I'm with my trainer, I'm like, is this training or
Speaker 1: is this sexual arrest? Shit? No, Talia touches my butt,
Speaker 1: I know a lot. She touches me all the time
Speaker 1: because she's trying to make my form. Is he touching
Speaker 1: you to make your form better? Know? It seems but
Speaker 1: you know, but then it's like, how is it doesn't
Speaker 1: need to be this long? I mean for my butt?
Speaker 1: Like but that like he was pressing yesterday and like
Speaker 1: well and mostly a New York sports club like they
Speaker 1: have they make the trainers put towels over you while
Speaker 1: they're like, oh well, like so like you give him
Speaker 1: a stop like he because they know the barrier between
Speaker 1: their per little hands and right She's like, that is
Speaker 1: my dick, but that's also a towel. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Talia touches my butt when I'm when I'm doing um planks,
Speaker 1: she like pushes all my butt the whole time because
Speaker 1: she wants to make sure that I'm tightening the muscles right.
Speaker 1: Like they'll put their hand in like hit my hand,
Speaker 1: hit my Wait, what else does he do? I mean,
Speaker 1: I just like sometimes like touching my like waist. I
Speaker 1: can't ship, I can't, you know. Sometimes when Tally is
Speaker 1: touching me, I'm like, man, if you were a straight
Speaker 1: guy right now, I would assume you're sexually arresting me,
Speaker 1: but you're not. You're my trainer and you care about
Speaker 1: me getting fit. But I realized, like we all have
Speaker 1: like certain like reasons why we allow sexual harassment in
Speaker 1: our lives. For a lot of women, it's like if
Speaker 1: the guy is cute for me, it's if like the
Speaker 1: guy is talented, Like my trainer is really talented. So
Speaker 1: it's like as a trainer, he's a talented trainer real
Speaker 1: like the best at the places like brutal people like,
Speaker 1: so he's claim to fame is making people throw up.
Speaker 1: I would hate him, So, I mean, yeah, very like
Speaker 1: Buzzy tough Love. I hate that ship. I need to
Speaker 1: pity me and just cheer me on. I don't yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't mean. I don't like a trainer that's too
Speaker 1: mean either because it just trusses me out. And like,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do the work anyway, so you don't
Speaker 1: need to yell at me. Um, you know, he's like
Speaker 1: he's got he like he laughs at me and sing
Speaker 1: songs like and which is like he thinks it's hilarious.
Speaker 1: Like as I struggle. M of god, I'm like pretty
Speaker 1: pretty good at it though, so it's not a big deal.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I I'm never smiling during my Oh
Speaker 1: I'm so pissed when after I like squat, after I
Speaker 1: do my fucking squats, I like, I don't like like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, don't talk to me, don't look at me.
Speaker 1: I just give me ten seconds. I just need I'm
Speaker 1: angry that I just worked this hard, like I just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and then tell you it's very good
Speaker 1: at giving my space. But um, well, and the worst
Speaker 1: thing is I'm just getting my shirts actually don't fit anymore.
Speaker 1: But not because I'm so thin, but because I've my
Speaker 1: shoulders have got an arms have muscle. Yeah, like that
Speaker 1: really counterproduction. I know I gain weights and started training,
Speaker 1: but it's for it's muscle. You look much bigger, but
Speaker 1: like I just look like just gonna keep looking bigger
Speaker 1: and bigger. You don't look bigger shoulders like I couldn't
Speaker 1: wear like my like the breast button was popping open,
Speaker 1: but it's not because my boob's got arm bit bigger.
Speaker 1: So it's a I'm paying a lot of money to
Speaker 1: get bigger. Can you do a pull up? Pull up?
Speaker 1: We haven't even tried. I do push ups. I mean
Speaker 1: I get the last time I tried it, I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm doing pull up with a band, and I feel
Speaker 1: like maybe I was made fun of for it with
Speaker 1: a band on her legs. Yeah, so I think that
Speaker 1: one my one of my feet is in a and
Speaker 1: then like a rubber band thing, and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is what it feels like to do a pull up.
Speaker 1: But I obviously have assistance, but the assistance gets lower
Speaker 1: and lower every time I work out, so that I
Speaker 1: eventually one dag ne fucking pull up. And then but
Speaker 1: when I'm doing it, it hurts so bad. It's so
Speaker 1: fucking hard, and I'm just like channel and all looks
Speaker 1: fucking bities. In middle school it made fun of me
Speaker 1: for not doing a pull up or I'm not mad
Speaker 1: at anyone from school. I mean, so I'm starting that,
Speaker 1: like I do we I do the assistant pull up machine,
Speaker 1: you know, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how I ship.
Speaker 1: But I mean, no, last time I checked, I have to.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess my trainer was like, let's not
Speaker 1: even do. There's some hotties at my gym and Ethan Cohen,
Speaker 1: who is the Coen Brothers one half, and every time
Speaker 1: I try to wear a witty fucking shirt so that
Speaker 1: he'll notice me. And then I'm like, people probably don't
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Speaker 1: two intros this week, and I was like, what am
Speaker 1: I going to talk about? Good thing? I got a
Speaker 1: crazy surgery. Yeah, I saw your Instagram story. I was
Speaker 1: like that the ones with the thing over your eyes.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's scary, right. Well, I didn't mean
Speaker 1: to scare anyone. I felt I felt like you'd like
Speaker 1: tell that. It was like I wasn't an I don't.
Speaker 1: But I also I'm super I'm very superstitious, So I
Speaker 1: didn't actually want to tell anyone except for like you
Speaker 1: and like my boyfriend that I was getting lasick. That's
Speaker 1: smart because then everyone's gonna be like, I mean, got
Speaker 1: good luck, got back? Well, I know, I just don't
Speaker 1: want I want horror stories. I know a couple of
Speaker 1: people who have got them. I got references. Shout out
Speaker 1: to MAISIMILOI thank you so much, um. And it's so
Speaker 1: funny because I was, well, first of all, I wasn't
Speaker 1: nervous at all until the day before when everyone kept
Speaker 1: like saying weird things to me, and then like which
Speaker 1: just weird, nothing to do with the eye thing, No,
Speaker 1: just like things that Okay, this is bad. So I
Speaker 1: just you know, I just come getting in my head
Speaker 1: and then of course like they make you take valium
Speaker 1: and like they notified me, and I'm why I didn't.
Speaker 1: It's so you don't your eyes don't dart. Probably right, well,
Speaker 1: it's because people do get nervous. But like you know me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, my heart, my horror rate is like you're like,
Speaker 1: is she alive? There could be there could be a
Speaker 1: tornado rolling on down thirty four, Like that's just going
Speaker 1: back and be like, oh this is this is not
Speaker 1: a good day, so annoying. I can't get across down now. Really.
Speaker 1: During Hurricane Sandy, you're like you guys are really you're
Speaker 1: fighting right now? Or the butth hole? Just can we
Speaker 1: just pick the ship up. I'm pretty unfazed by most things,
Speaker 1: and so I was like not nervous. Like they gave
Speaker 1: me stress balls during the surgery, and I was like,
Speaker 1: can I just like cross my hands because I like
Speaker 1: it's stressing me out more that I have to now
Speaker 1: hold something during my fucking surgery. Yeah, they're prepping you
Speaker 1: and medicating you because they're basically telling you what. I'm
Speaker 1: not nervous. I was like, maybe don't lock me in
Speaker 1: a secluded dark room for an hour before they do that.
Speaker 1: But what made me nervous is the day before the surgery,
Speaker 1: I saw two blind people in one day. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've seen that too, not since I've lived in Chelsea
Speaker 1: or was it frequented? And that for the blind I
Speaker 1: saw a blind woman literally sat down next to me
Speaker 1: on the Long Island railroad. Okay, that's fucking weird. When
Speaker 1: I was on my way to a comedy show, and
Speaker 1: then I get to the comedy show and a blind
Speaker 1: woman walks into my goddamn show. Different blind woman, different
Speaker 1: blind woman, and I go, James, this is second blind
Speaker 1: person I've seen today. I was taken that as scientific.
Speaker 1: It was so close to canceling I was, I'm very
Speaker 1: big into omens on. We've heard stories about people like
Speaker 1: getting on a plane and they feel like something pushing them.
Speaker 1: So many people in nine eleven they're like, I just
Speaker 1: can't go to work today. I don't know why in
Speaker 1: the boom, I mean, just crazy. And then I wanted
Speaker 1: to I wanted to contact Kate Wolf and see what
Speaker 1: she thought about the two blind people, but that I
Speaker 1: was too afraid, and I was dancing with her last
Speaker 1: night under the Knife. She actually asked me, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, and then she actually hasn't least has
Speaker 1: had Lasi two because she texted me to invite me
Speaker 1: to the dance and I was like, girl, it was
Speaker 1: in my calendar, but I gotta get Lazi today instead,
Speaker 1: I can't come, and I go I got I was.
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't want to ask you because
Speaker 1: I was afraid of your answer. But I was like,
Speaker 1: since you texted anyway, Wow, that's kind of convenient. I
Speaker 1: did see two two blind people, and I got very nervous,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts And she goes, oh, don't even
Speaker 1: worry about She's like, that's just you seeing your fear.
Speaker 1: God damn it. Kate Wolf he's so smart. And I
Speaker 1: was like, do you work for t l C I Center,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but if you do, whatever we've got
Speaker 1: I got. I was like, that's a great answer. Kate.
Speaker 1: I had to go with and and she was like
Speaker 1: you know that, She's like, and then boris I can
Speaker 1: also got lasic and I told him and he goes
Speaker 1: and he goes, no, that's just you seeing blind people
Speaker 1: going l well, you're not going to be blind. And
Speaker 1: I was like, what a comedian answer. Good job, And
Speaker 1: then I mean started to any blind people listening. But
Speaker 1: I was like, I truly, well, that's a possible. Uh
Speaker 1: it is side effect, and when you think about it,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, so best case scenario, my lazy s
Speaker 1: doesn't want to have to wear contacts anymore. First case scenario,
Speaker 1: ever see anything again. I am blind for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life. Never see a dog again, you never
Speaker 1: see James again. And then I see them looking up
Speaker 1: looking up stories about it. And of course there's that
Speaker 1: blasic I'm wrong. There's this a woman whose son had
Speaker 1: such severe eye problems after getting lasic that I killed himself.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, I mean severe, I'm guessink.
Speaker 1: He like probably couldn't. And then I was just like,
Speaker 1: that would probably drive me crazy because if I was,
Speaker 1: if you're born blind, that's all you know because you're
Speaker 1: to handle that. This is my thing. I smell well.
Speaker 1: And or if you go blind like when you're really old, okay,
Speaker 1: probably sick of seeing people anyway, they are the same
Speaker 1: after a while. But like blind at thirty one, Oh
Speaker 1: that's a t l C show right there. Damn no,
Speaker 1: then you'd be a fucking TV star actually blind comedian
Speaker 1: blind and thirty one. One time I saw two little
Speaker 1: people in the same subway card. Oh god. And then
Speaker 1: you thought you were going to get I was like, man,
Speaker 1: good thing I'm not getting. I don't know, I'm not
Speaker 1: seeing the Wizard today. And I felt so guilty because
Speaker 1: I really had a serious, like talked with myself about
Speaker 1: what would I do if I got went blind, and
Speaker 1: like aside did come up? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: be honest. Look there, we're real right. I think it too.
Speaker 1: I thought it for lesser things than that, And then
Speaker 1: I felt cause I was like, I was like, there's
Speaker 1: plenty people that are blind walking around having great lives.
Speaker 1: I was like you're just seeing a little cont dude.
Speaker 1: When I see blind people in New York City specifically
Speaker 1: inspire the fuck to marry every time I see. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, you just figure it out, and you're
Speaker 1: like cool when I do love dogs, so you need
Speaker 1: two dogs want to reach side to you? Um, one
Speaker 1: for each Yeah. And I mean I felt like such
Speaker 1: an adult because I didn't even tell my mom I
Speaker 1: was getting this surgery. I texted her, I texted this morning. No,
Speaker 1: not at all. She goes, cringe, You know me, well,
Speaker 1: because she would have been worse. I didn't need my
Speaker 1: mom up all night thinking about her daughter going blind
Speaker 1: or sending me fucking god after link after link about
Speaker 1: people who went I didn't need that. She would have
Speaker 1: done that. Before your surgery. There would have been a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff about going blind. Yeah, good, she was.
Speaker 1: She was like, you know me. She goes, I'm glad
Speaker 1: you're not blind, and I'm glad that you didn't tell
Speaker 1: me beforehand. And I go, same twinsies, Well this emailing
Speaker 1: about blindness? What it is about pedophilia? Um? This email
Speaker 1: is we haven't ready mailed in a really long time.
Speaker 1: This one. I don't know how I feel about it,
Speaker 1: and I'm usually never stumped, but I'm like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna read it. The subject line is I
Speaker 1: sell my nude baby picks to purvs. I saw that.
Speaker 1: I was like reading that and stopping my cart and
Speaker 1: CVS to read this. Yeah, you had to set send
Speaker 1: my new baby pics to God. That makes me feel
Speaker 1: so weird. Hello, my fellow horrors. It's a girl who
Speaker 1: wrote so she can say that I love your podcast
Speaker 1: and I've always wanted to write in, but I've never
Speaker 1: had anything too special to say. Well, now you do,
Speaker 1: and I didn't want to waste your time on my
Speaker 1: irrelevant bullshit. Well, after your last podcast, I can finally
Speaker 1: say that I can add something interesting to the topic
Speaker 1: of online sex, work, selling, slash selling, strange belongings. I'll
Speaker 1: start out by saying that I'm twenty two, I live
Speaker 1: in it doesn't matter, I work at a part time job,
Speaker 1: and I'm buried in student loan debt. I have always
Speaker 1: been unconventional, and I was inspired two years ago while
Speaker 1: watching Orange the New Back I just this season premieres.
Speaker 1: I was crying, freaking Remember Piper starts selling sea sweaty
Speaker 1: underwear online. It makes a lot of money. I thought,
Speaker 1: should I can do that. I started by selling warm
Speaker 1: panties and bras, period staying panties and the occasional used tampon.
Speaker 1: In the last year and a half, I have I've
Speaker 1: started selling something a lot different, naked pictures of myself
Speaker 1: as a child. Uh. Now, obviously this sounds disgusting and wrong,
Speaker 1: and it is pretty gross, but it's honestly victim less.
Speaker 1: You've talked about pedophilia on your podcast and how there
Speaker 1: are a lot of people that are attracted to children.
Speaker 1: I get contacted and paid by a lot of these people.
Speaker 1: Could this be seen as selling child porn? Maybe? But again,
Speaker 1: the only pictures I've ever sent have been of me,
Speaker 1: and I'm consenting to sell them and receiving payment. A
Speaker 1: little backstory. I was a very obnoxious child. I like
Speaker 1: to run around naked for attention as a way to
Speaker 1: embarrass me or get me to stop. My mom with
Speaker 1: you'll put some clothes on, or I'll take your picture
Speaker 1: and put it on the Christmas card this year. Little
Speaker 1: does she know? I mean, I think that's illegal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me being an asshole? Smile imposed stick my bony little
Speaker 1: ass out. Obviously I stopped doing this around age eleven
Speaker 1: or so, but I have lots of my nakedness documented
Speaker 1: from before that. None of these pictures were taken in
Speaker 1: a sexual way. Of course, I've never been abused, and
Speaker 1: I am very sexually healthy, very sexually healthy person. The
Speaker 1: child and the pictures was very happy and is no
Speaker 1: longer a child. I honestly think that if a picture
Speaker 1: of me being a brady kid can give someone a
Speaker 1: release that might otherwise have hurt a child, it's worth it.
Speaker 1: But I plus I make a good amount of money
Speaker 1: doing it. Damn Pedophon's rich to I only have about
Speaker 1: ten pictures that I rotate to different buyers, and none
Speaker 1: are close up of my badge and aren't sexual at all.
Speaker 1: They don't mean much to me and are an easy
Speaker 1: way to make money. So what are your thoughts on
Speaker 1: this is what I'm doing wrong? I love your opinions.
Speaker 1: I haven't told anyone, obviously, because it's weird and legal.
Speaker 1: By the way, please don't get me in trouble. I mean,
Speaker 1: I hope, I love your podcast. Blah blah blah. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: I was interested actually about the legality of that, because
Speaker 1: is it illegal? As she is now of consenting right,
Speaker 1: and she's making all the good points. I'm interested if
Speaker 1: anyone actually knows the legality of that. Can you please
Speaker 1: email us and put like legality of of well maybe
Speaker 1: you don't want to write, but like child peace r
Speaker 1: and because I'm really really um, that's a that's such
Speaker 1: an interesting great now. I mean she's doing a service
Speaker 1: on both sides. She is because because I don't you know,
Speaker 1: the very little that I know about pedophilia, the very
Speaker 1: little that the fucking world knows about pedophile because no
Speaker 1: one wants to talk about it because it's disgusting and vulgar.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is, but like it's also a thing that happened,
Speaker 1: so let's try and figure it out. Um this these
Speaker 1: people are not hurting children, They're just looking at photos.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not wrong. It feels weird, but also
Speaker 1: I can't think of anything actually bad. I see no
Speaker 1: issue with it. The only thing is we don't actually
Speaker 1: know these people aren't touching children, like shea. So I
Speaker 1: would say the I wouldn't hope that this is preventing that.
Speaker 1: I don't know like how you guys like um exchange
Speaker 1: these photos, whether it's online or mail. But I would
Speaker 1: just say, maybe do something where like I'm totally cool
Speaker 1: and IM I hope this, you know, like some includes
Speaker 1: some kind of a message being like kudos to you
Speaker 1: for getting getting off in a way that doesn't harm anybody,
Speaker 1: and I just hope it continues to be that way,
Speaker 1: so like make it positive, but also like throwing a
Speaker 1: little something that might guilt them out of fucking kids.
Speaker 1: I think that's good. Yeah, guy, do that, then you
Speaker 1: know it's like there's nothing wrong. They're your fucking fit
Speaker 1: pictures and the you know, the whole thing is you
Speaker 1: can do whatever you want with your body when I
Speaker 1: mean always, but especially after you're you know, eighteen, and
Speaker 1: you can consent and your own mind, your photos of
Speaker 1: your Yeah, and I agree with you, Like some people
Speaker 1: are just attracted to kids, and there's nothing that you
Speaker 1: can do to make that go away. The only thing
Speaker 1: is you have to make sure these people aren't like
Speaker 1: it's not like amping them up to like because at
Speaker 1: a certain time, like you know how when you keep
Speaker 1: watching porn you need more. I'm just concerned, like if
Speaker 1: you keep looking at child pornography, eventually that's not gonna
Speaker 1: like it's not that's not gonna be enough for you anymore,
Speaker 1: and then you're gona have to actually go out and
Speaker 1: have sex with kids. And that's my concern. You know
Speaker 1: what I would also do when I send these pictures, Um,
Speaker 1: I would say, like that, toe, I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: like you're using a very like, you know, normal average
Speaker 1: tone with these people. I don't really know, but um,
Speaker 1: the Tart and Feathered episode of This American Life, for
Speaker 1: that guy's a pedophile, he fucking had a voice disguise
Speaker 1: on that never happens on that podcast because it's amazing episode.
Speaker 1: But there's a lot of resources that are cited in
Speaker 1: that episode for people to get help if they want to.
Speaker 1: Maybe I would say, hey, okay, I will sell you
Speaker 1: these pictures and and and and it is my hope
Speaker 1: that this is your only outlet for these urges and
Speaker 1: you're not physically harming someone like you were saying, And
Speaker 1: if you are interested in getting help, I happen to
Speaker 1: know of a couple of resources that I heard of
Speaker 1: from a podcast, And here's the link to the podcast
Speaker 1: if you want to listen to another person talk about
Speaker 1: having a similar shoe, and here's the links of the resources. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say, maybe you don't don't even word it
Speaker 1: as needing help, because just to be like, if you
Speaker 1: want to talk to people who also have the same
Speaker 1: sexual interests of you and like it in like an
Speaker 1: anonymous way, that might be good just to kind of
Speaker 1: like almost trick them into getting into this, right, because
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, the second you, I'm sure the second
Speaker 1: you Condescenter talked down like you need help, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be like you or you'll scare them off. And I
Speaker 1: think it's better that someone of sound mind, who who's
Speaker 1: has control over like the photos, is uh talking to them.
Speaker 1: I think it's you know better than someone else you're
Speaker 1: talking about. So many people are pedophiles. So many people
Speaker 1: are fucking pedophiles. I'm not got to talk about this ship. Well.
Speaker 1: I'm also curious if if you can actually reply to
Speaker 1: us or we can send you an email. I'm curious
Speaker 1: if when you send me those photos, if they think
Speaker 1: that they know that it's you, or if they think
Speaker 1: it's actually someone who is a child present day. I'm curious.
Speaker 1: I would imagine the photo you can tell from picture quality,
Speaker 1: but she's only pictures. He wouldn't have been that. How
Speaker 1: the funk are they not uploading that to a secret
Speaker 1: space on the internet. The photo mean, they probably all,
Speaker 1: but she's selling them multiple times, right, But I mean,
Speaker 1: like everyone doesn't have access to everything, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: a lot of pedophiles are so scared scared of getting
Speaker 1: caught that they only want like a direct thing. They
Speaker 1: don't want to be going on these websites and cookies
Speaker 1: and all that. Well, right, and you know what, the
Speaker 1: child born that fucking they like, I'm sure that subway
Speaker 1: dude was hoarding. The children are harmed and scarred for life,
Speaker 1: and their soul is removed from them basically when that happened,
Speaker 1: like they're abused. Well, I mean, and there's so many
Speaker 1: instances of kids, especially like in the just disappearing and
Speaker 1: then ending up. I actually heard another story about that
Speaker 1: on last podcast on the Left yesterday about this fucking
Speaker 1: kid disappearing and they're pretty sure he ended up in
Speaker 1: a pedophilia ring, never to be heard from again. Like
Speaker 1: he was like chased into the woods with him and
Speaker 1: his brother and then his like they told his brother
Speaker 1: to run off. I guess he wasn't, you know, cute
Speaker 1: enough and then what do you well get the funk
Speaker 1: out of here? Pubics um and yeah, and so it's
Speaker 1: damn dude, and and and people. Yet people really do
Speaker 1: refuse to talk about They don't want to admit that
Speaker 1: it's happening. It's one of the most vile things on
Speaker 1: it is happening. People do think this way, it's not
Speaker 1: going to go away. You can't hide these people. You
Speaker 1: can't just be like, well, you know you have we
Speaker 1: have to we have to find a way to figure
Speaker 1: out how to stop this because the more time we're
Speaker 1: scared of talking about it, the more victims there are. UM.
Speaker 1: And on that note, we're gonna bring a guest on UM. Okay,
Speaker 1: so today's guest uh I actually met a period panel
Speaker 1: UM where we talked about menstruation. Obviously a k periods
Speaker 1: And he is a gender queer UH performer and artist
Speaker 1: and also has a show on Viceland called Twiz and
Speaker 1: Talk where they go on a road trip. And he
Speaker 1: also runs a like queer friendly moving company. I mean
Speaker 1: all I would hope sovie companies are queer friendly, but
Speaker 1: you know they're not. Yeah, he quiz So this is
Speaker 1: such a I love him so much. Please, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: welcome to the show. Twiz Rhymer on Blue Trunk back
Speaker 1: to up to Woman Shifts song these two groups. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. I'm so sorry, so bad,
Speaker 1: so fine. Okay, we're here with Twiz Rhylan. Yo. I
Speaker 1: said it right, good for me? How you doing? I'm good?
Speaker 1: How are you doing good? So you want to start
Speaker 1: from the beginning of your life? Um, I was born, Yes,
Speaker 1: I was born, and I was born with a brother
Speaker 1: in the same womb. Oh twin, He's adorable, just saying
Speaker 1: is it weird having a twin? I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: what it's like to not have a twice so true,
Speaker 1: but um, I don't know. I think it has it's
Speaker 1: I think it's cool. Actually has a lot of benefits
Speaker 1: because you guys are probably like so close and not
Speaker 1: like more close than a typical brother and sister, because
Speaker 1: I love my brother. Were close, but we're also nine
Speaker 1: years apart, right, I have a few brothers also that
Speaker 1: are that old. Um My, my twin brother and I, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're pretty close. We obviously have a lot of differences,
Speaker 1: but for you know, I mean, it was interesting being
Speaker 1: raised female and growing up side by side with a
Speaker 1: male the same age and going through very similar things
Speaker 1: because he's heterosexual and I'm not. But you know, there
Speaker 1: was like a lot of interesting social aspects that went
Speaker 1: along with that. How do you what do you identify
Speaker 1: as in terms of your gender identity and your sexual identity?
Speaker 1: You know, it's such an interesting million dollar question. Um,
Speaker 1: everyone's sobs. Yeah, I know. I actually have a really
Speaker 1: hard time figuring that out. Mostly ago with trans masculine.
Speaker 1: My pronouns or he or she. Most people call me he.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people call me daddy. That works, but that's only
Speaker 1: when I'm smacking secretly kind of like it sounds fun.
Speaker 1: I'll call you daddy. Yeah, thank you daddy. It feels
Speaker 1: so funny. It feels like sexual. Like the minute you
Speaker 1: start saying daddy like that, I'm like, yeah, rouse, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like I felt comfortable. I've never used daddy
Speaker 1: in bed, but I have a lot of friends who do,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, one time I tried it, I was like, nah,
Speaker 1: I just felt like I was saying dad, and then
Speaker 1: I just dad. I love my dad, but you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm twisted. It's so twisted. Yeah. I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever used it in bed. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 1: called anyone daddy. Okay, well, I mean that's you, that's
Speaker 1: what you like. So you he or she pronouns, and
Speaker 1: then sexually women like women a lot of women. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I have I'm currently taken. You have a fiancee. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're engaged for immigration. But yeah, hey, fucking fucking do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've been together almost four years. And how
Speaker 1: did you meet at a party in Brooklyn on a couch?
Speaker 1: Old school, the real way, Not on the internet. No
Speaker 1: online dating? Yeah have you ever? Once? Never again? Um?
Speaker 1: You know, I won't say any names, but basically, you know,
Speaker 1: I asked the girl she knew who I was? This
Speaker 1: is probably five years ago, and she said no, And
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, also, do you know that I'm female?
Speaker 1: And because now I guess like they put like gender
Speaker 1: markers or other or things like that, but at that
Speaker 1: time you had to do male or female, right, And um,
Speaker 1: So I met up with her for drinks and um
Speaker 1: one margarita, and she says, you know, she confessed she
Speaker 1: does know who I am. She's seen me around. And
Speaker 1: then she pulled out a notebook full of drawings of
Speaker 1: my face. Whoa tuiz. I can't believe she showed you
Speaker 1: that were you, like, yo, she would totally fuck me.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I looked like Russell Brandon all of
Speaker 1: the drawings you kind of did. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 1: that's bad. Yeah, you know, I'll take it. So we
Speaker 1: what was your reaction when she pulled out this notebook.
Speaker 1: I just tried to make her feel as comfortable as possible,
Speaker 1: a sweetheart, Oh my god. And I took one for
Speaker 1: my for my collection. Um So we like when you said, like,
Speaker 1: do you know who I am? Do you mean like
Speaker 1: because you're an artist? Yeah, I mean just from out
Speaker 1: and about at that time, Like it was just like
Speaker 1: a club kids, you know, a famous just persons. A
Speaker 1: lot of New Yorkers get like this, like New York
Speaker 1: face sure, like the queer parents Hilton just for famous. No,
Speaker 1: you know, I just yeah, I was. I was, you know,
Speaker 1: I had the fomo. I was always just needed the
Speaker 1: cameo at all the queer parties. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: just at least five minutes here, ten minutes there, I
Speaker 1: just you know, needed to my face was around. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm like five ft eleven tattooed, and I have Tourette syndrome,
Speaker 1: so I twitched my face off. So I just feel
Speaker 1: like people remember who I am, you stick out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and also my name is Twiz, So yeah, that's amazing,
Speaker 1: that's perfect. And now I thought I found it interesting
Speaker 1: cause I was reading this art clemposture and it's like you,
Speaker 1: you don't take any hormones, No, how you going on
Speaker 1: must Yeah, I'm really impressed by But it's like a
Speaker 1: good mustach. It's like a good mustach. You it's like
Speaker 1: a John Waters. Also, I used to have a soul
Speaker 1: patch but then I pierced it in the nineties. And um,
Speaker 1: but no, I don't know. There's a couple of ideas. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm half a Russian Jew. I'm like abs, like, I
Speaker 1: mean a big hairy woman. And also and actually I'm
Speaker 1: losing air as I get older, Like I'm like, but
Speaker 1: I also have naturally high testosterone levels for a female.
Speaker 1: They're still within the female bracket. You got them tested, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you can just any any time you get
Speaker 1: blood work done free. I asked my kind of colleges
Speaker 1: to do that because I felt like I had high
Speaker 1: testosterone because of my anger and my acne. And I
Speaker 1: was like, there's some male in bay I gotta get
Speaker 1: it out. Also, there's a puzz I had assist on
Speaker 1: my ovaries when I was like sixteen, and that can
Speaker 1: also I forget what that's called actually, but apparently that
Speaker 1: can also regulate your your hormone. Okay, harrier interesting higher
Speaker 1: sex drives. Well, how how old were you when you
Speaker 1: kind of because everybody's usually comes into their own sexuality
Speaker 1: at a different age. Like I started masturbating when I
Speaker 1: was a little kid, but I didn't know. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't like straight or gay or anything. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't. I was never attracted to men that as
Speaker 1: a young child, or boys, but or girls like anything.
Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't want to hump this horse.
Speaker 1: So what was it like for you? I actually had
Speaker 1: a horse, hopefully that you did not humph. I was
Speaker 1: a stuffed animal, though mine was real sure. Um uh wait,
Speaker 1: what was the question? When would you start noticing, like
Speaker 1: coming into your sexuality? Okay, I mean probably around three,
Speaker 1: three to five years old, But I remember when I
Speaker 1: was three. I had a gay babysitter growing up, and
Speaker 1: I remember he'd bring his friends over and it was
Speaker 1: a super intrigued and all the boys with like girls,
Speaker 1: and all the girls with like boys. And this was
Speaker 1: in the eighties, you know. So I was just sitting
Speaker 1: there and my twin brother was drawing. I was we
Speaker 1: were both drawing at a coffee table, looking at all
Speaker 1: these eighties gay kids sitting on the cow that my
Speaker 1: mom picked up at the y m c A. And Um,
Speaker 1: I was just know, she's just a big British lady.
Speaker 1: She's amazing. And I was just staring at them and
Speaker 1: my and I looked at my twin brother. He's just
Speaker 1: not even aware. He's just a drawing, drawing, drawing. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, drawing curse words and whatever. And I'm just
Speaker 1: like completely like, how are you not noticing? And I
Speaker 1: was just like in love. Um, I'd say about kindergarten
Speaker 1: was the first crush I had on a girl. I
Speaker 1: would say around around that, Yeah, and did you did
Speaker 1: you realize at all that maybe, like this isn't the norm?
Speaker 1: Or that's a great question. I actually didn't realize until
Speaker 1: third grade that it wasn't normal because I had so
Speaker 1: many queer people. Yeah, there was queer people around me
Speaker 1: my entire life growing up, and so, um, I remember
Speaker 1: I was at a sleepover party and new kids in
Speaker 1: the block themed cigarette party. Um, and you know, all
Speaker 1: these girls were in a circle and they're going around
Speaker 1: talking about which teeny bopper boy that they have a
Speaker 1: crush on. And I remember leaning over to my friend
Speaker 1: Sarah and being like, you know, I think Christina Reach,
Speaker 1: he's hot. Good choice. It was happening then, and you know,
Speaker 1: she leans over and she's just like, that's totally fine,
Speaker 1: but don't say it out loud. Ah. And that was
Speaker 1: the first thing to learn that what you enjoy is
Speaker 1: not the normal. So it wasn't even like an internal
Speaker 1: like I was like, oh, this isn't right. It was
Speaker 1: like somebody's told me. I didn't know there was gay
Speaker 1: or straight. I thought it was like people just love people.
Speaker 1: I wish I had never changed and wish that was
Speaker 1: where was I Well, I mean it should be the concept.
Speaker 1: It's so interesting because I feel like it's always these
Speaker 1: outside sources that make us feel like, huh, this isn't
Speaker 1: normal or I feel bad about this. Yeah it's a yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like the societical Like, you know, society is based
Speaker 1: on a heteronormative binary black and white, male and female,
Speaker 1: straight and not, and yeah, and they're like I need
Speaker 1: things the way I understand them, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: that's not the way the world. Yeah, that's not the
Speaker 1: way the world works exactly. No, it doesn't at all,
Speaker 1: and it makes it really tough for those of us
Speaker 1: who genetically don't even fit into that right, right, but
Speaker 1: this isn't choice, like you know, yeah, sorry dad, this
Speaker 1: is not a choice. Your dad think it's a choice. Yes,
Speaker 1: I found out recently. Actually I always just thought he
Speaker 1: hitted the way I dressed, but apparently there's it goes deeper. Wow,
Speaker 1: what was that conversation? Like, well, if you watch episode
Speaker 1: six on Viceland, it was somewhat recorded, so wow, what's
Speaker 1: good to get? You know what, It's so good to
Speaker 1: get those moments if you can capture that raw moment
Speaker 1: on camera. I think it's so important to see because
Speaker 1: like when Karin introduced me at the organization New Alternatives
Speaker 1: and like, these kids are getting kicked out of their
Speaker 1: house because of their sexuality and you're like what, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I wish every person who said that being
Speaker 1: gay or queer as a choice and all this ship
Speaker 1: could see these beautiful young people who all they want
Speaker 1: to do in life is just be happy and and
Speaker 1: find success in whatever field they want, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And it's just like fuck yeah. And you know,
Speaker 1: even if it was a choice, people should just chill
Speaker 1: the funk out and accept it. Yeah, I know, I know. Really,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, who gives a ship?
Speaker 1: Why do you care so much? I don't care. I
Speaker 1: don't care that you chose to wear that polo like
Speaker 1: I don't exactly. I don't make fun of my dad's
Speaker 1: gino's leather. What did he What did you say back
Speaker 1: to him when he kind of told you that that's
Speaker 1: how he thinks of I just immediately started crying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was really hard. He's hard to talk to. It's
Speaker 1: because he's hard to talk to him. It's not like
Speaker 1: it's not it's not a usual thing. It's just more
Speaker 1: of a frustration. Um, you know. I was just trying
Speaker 1: to Actually, it was kind of I just told so
Speaker 1: hard to explain. I told him, you know, if you
Speaker 1: don't accept me, like, can you just let me know,
Speaker 1: you know, and we'll keep our relationships superficial the way
Speaker 1: it has been for years. But at least now I
Speaker 1: can move on, you know, instead of keep trying to
Speaker 1: impress and get your love and blah blah blah, because
Speaker 1: it would be cool to have a down dad. My
Speaker 1: mom is cool as shit, but like you know, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I live in this rild as a dude, and
Speaker 1: it just would be really nice to have, you know,
Speaker 1: my homie because he's close with my brothers, they can
Speaker 1: like shoot the talk about tits like whatever, and like
Speaker 1: with me, he just looks at me like you can
Speaker 1: talk about tits with you too, exactly take whatever. I mean.
Speaker 1: Do you think that's something about him, Like he's insecure,
Speaker 1: he doesn't understand, he's confused, like what is what is
Speaker 1: it that's making him treat you that way? Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: he's old school. He's an old school generation. He's almost
Speaker 1: like what seventy five. He's a conservative Republican Republican. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't that's a good I'm gonna start saying that, Um,
Speaker 1: his dad was tough ship. And then also, you know,
Speaker 1: I went to school once upon a time to become
Speaker 1: a therapist, and uh, you know, my dad's got some
Speaker 1: O c D issues, which is probably why I f
Speaker 1: Turett because it related. Oh yeah, cousin's interesting. But um,
Speaker 1: also he has a really intense history, you know, he
Speaker 1: grew up wealthy and um he had his he's the
Speaker 1: oldest of three boys. The middle brother was murdered by
Speaker 1: a serial killer. There's a lot of like he was.
Speaker 1: He's been pistol whipped when he's gonna be robbed in
Speaker 1: his home and his parents were tied to chairs like
Speaker 1: you know, things like this, you know, for you life,
Speaker 1: sometimes life just gets to you. Closest family members were
Speaker 1: the ones that told the people who robbed that, you know,
Speaker 1: like where he lived, trail he know. So it's just
Speaker 1: kind of like a lot of I think it's just
Speaker 1: like a he just doesn't trust anyone or anything, and
Speaker 1: you know, so he comes from that, and and he
Speaker 1: also is like kind of narcissistic in a way that
Speaker 1: he doesn't understand why his children aren't like many him.
Speaker 1: You know, boarding schools and blah blah. You know, we've
Speaker 1: done all the same ship. And he just doesn't understand
Speaker 1: why I'm not him that people are just like their
Speaker 1: own individual people. They're not just replicas of hes sperm
Speaker 1: that contributed to them. Basically, Yeah, I'm like, dude, I'm
Speaker 1: half you, but you know this is how I am
Speaker 1: in this world. But he thinks it's his choice that, um,
Speaker 1: you know, the world is treating me unfair and it's
Speaker 1: my fault. Why have you everready asked him, like, why
Speaker 1: do you think I would choose this? Yeah, totally. He
Speaker 1: doesn't know. He's like, yeah, I don't get it. He
Speaker 1: just cannot wrap this head around it. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to get through. Like my dad
Speaker 1: is a conservative Republican too, and and and and I
Speaker 1: think the mill his parents. His dad was such a
Speaker 1: sweet man, and you know, but I think it's I
Speaker 1: think the military. He got drafted and just stayed in
Speaker 1: it until she's retired. But I think something in the
Speaker 1: military like beat any emotions out of him, and so
Speaker 1: we can't talk. Like he'll say, like when I was younger,
Speaker 1: he would do this more, but I'll say something that
Speaker 1: was a little homophobic, and I'm like, dad, well, Dad, like,
Speaker 1: don't you come on, And I would get mad and
Speaker 1: he would kind of like that I got men try
Speaker 1: to hang me. I'm like, and it's it's hard. It's
Speaker 1: hard to get through that. Especially. Yeah, well, I think
Speaker 1: there's also something with our parents, like they kind of
Speaker 1: like had it harder and like kind of just in
Speaker 1: a way and then they just had to like this
Speaker 1: was what you're gonna do, and you just have to
Speaker 1: do it, works up and deal with it. Kind of
Speaker 1: we have more choices and freedoms and like kind of
Speaker 1: like options, uh, and we can be ourselves when we
Speaker 1: can pursue our dreams in a way that I don't
Speaker 1: think was like your parents could have done it, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't so out there that they could do it,
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't such public knowledge, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of like our parents were like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go pursue stand up calmedy. Like my parents were
Speaker 1: totally fine with that. But if my mother or my
Speaker 1: dad had said that they might, they would have been
Speaker 1: like what the fun? They would have been like beaten.
Speaker 1: It's the dumbist sidea I've ever heard. Um. And now
Speaker 1: you went to you went to boarding school in New
Speaker 1: Jersey for high school, right and you and I know
Speaker 1: there was some drama with like people trying to sue
Speaker 1: the school because you were there. Can you go and
Speaker 1: see that a little bit? Yes? Please? Yeah, yeah, I'm talking.
Speaker 1: I mean it could be like a whole movie. Um,
Speaker 1: I'll trying to give you a short version. You only
Speaker 1: a boring life, twiz life is this is my normal? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I love that fun. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it's probably exhausting sometimes, but I get yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: tutor um or more exhausting. Boarding in school to two thousand,
Speaker 1: I went to Blair Academy in New Jersey. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and Jersey. Yeah, okay, I'm not I'm from South Florida.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I went to boarding school in New Jersey.
Speaker 1: And I think it was I started dating this girl
Speaker 1: the end of my junior year. She was a freshman,
Speaker 1: but I guess we really started dating over the summer
Speaker 1: via email al aim. Oh my god. And at that time,
Speaker 1: where you were you still presenting as like female or
Speaker 1: male or I mean I looked exactly the same. I
Speaker 1: was out as you do now. Yeah yeah, okay, I
Speaker 1: had long hair, I had huge tits which I don't
Speaker 1: have anymore. Oh you got removed fourteen years ago? That great?
Speaker 1: Did that feel? It's the best decision. Can run free
Speaker 1: and my mom is considering doing it now. That's how amazing.
Speaker 1: At this give land your stomach, you can slide into
Speaker 1: home base, you can run. And I was double D
Speaker 1: S two like it was like an eight pound shot put.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, um, but basically my senior year I was
Speaker 1: dating this girl and I actually didn't find this like
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a lot of drama that happened
Speaker 1: that year within the school and me and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: but they were withholding information from me as a as
Speaker 1: I was. Even it was eighteen, I was still like
Speaker 1: considered minor because you're signed over to boarding school. Um.
Speaker 1: Ten years later, my tenure high school reunion is when
Speaker 1: I found out that families were trying to sue for
Speaker 1: allowing for the school allowing their children to be near me.
Speaker 1: First of all, their who their parents thought that I
Speaker 1: was contagious. I have touretsunder him. They like you could
Speaker 1: catch tourets. Did they worry about this any sexuality being contagious? Yes,
Speaker 1: some did, I know, Um, but they you know, they're
Speaker 1: called and they were like, this is not that long ago.
Speaker 1: This is very alarm. People are fucking stupid. This so bad.
Speaker 1: It's not like he's going to give everyone aid's Yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: Oh my god. But they were worried. They're like, you know,
Speaker 1: and this isn't a religious school, you know, but like
Speaker 1: it wasn't even religious boarding school, and God it was
Speaker 1: definitely Catholic school or something. No, not at all. My
Speaker 1: father would never send me to a Catholics. Um. That's
Speaker 1: one good thing about him. No offense too Catholics. Um.
Speaker 1: But my this apparently parents were calling. They were worried that,
Speaker 1: like I was naked with their daughters and bath and like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe they had these they're the perfects,
Speaker 1: honestly they think, Yeah, like's not thinking about little children
Speaker 1: naked sucking gang shower. They were expecting like gang showers
Speaker 1: and me just in there like taking notes, like given
Speaker 1: all these girls ecstasy and like touching them appropriately, like
Speaker 1: and that's not what was happening, even though that would
Speaker 1: be amazing, like a great time. That's what happens now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's now I'm a goddamn a doll. Yeah no, I
Speaker 1: can eat ice cream. So you they fucking kept I mean,
Speaker 1: do you like that the school kept that from you?
Speaker 1: Because part of me is like, oh, did they know that?
Speaker 1: It was ridiculous and they didn't want to ruin your school?
Speaker 1: They did ruin my school time. What stucked was that
Speaker 1: I was the older one. I got the ship under
Speaker 1: the stick. So if they had explained this to me
Speaker 1: a lot more would have made sense. So I felt
Speaker 1: like they were all against me. Even if they were,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean parents could have tried to see
Speaker 1: they wouldn't win, and I could have sued I would
Speaker 1: have won, you know things like that. But um no,
Speaker 1: I actually wish they would have told me and not
Speaker 1: or at least my parents. You can know what my parents,
Speaker 1: what's going on? So they would treat you? How would
Speaker 1: the school treat you when you were in it? Well,
Speaker 1: I was a resident advisor and a freshman sophomore dorm
Speaker 1: as a senior, so that like an r A or
Speaker 1: they called prefix and uh prefect perfect um, and you
Speaker 1: get this if you have good grades and you're a
Speaker 1: model student in a great sportsman, you know which is
Speaker 1: I was. I didn't even kicking be smart too. It's
Speaker 1: the funny part was is I didn't even apply to
Speaker 1: be a prefect. I actually was asked like like formally,
Speaker 1: you know I was that good of a kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like literally the best kid. You couldn't ask
Speaker 1: for a better kid, best at the sports, best at
Speaker 1: the art. It's a great grade. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: all around fucking badass. Anyway, no crying, no drama, no bullshit,
Speaker 1: didn't smokedn't do drugs to lie do little ecstasy and
Speaker 1: stuff whatever. You can't smoke or drink and boarding schools
Speaker 1: anything you can smell here. I'm sure a lot of
Speaker 1: people didn't found a way to do that though. So
Speaker 1: it's mostly like coke pills and fact that's much better.
Speaker 1: It was a little fay, but you know it's a
Speaker 1: recreational use. No, nothing crazy anyway. Um. So where was I.
Speaker 1: This is how the schoolture you do, all right? So
Speaker 1: one day they called me up and they said, listen,
Speaker 1: you can't be a prefect anymore. You have to move
Speaker 1: to the senior girl's dorm. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: Well there were certain benefits that came along with being
Speaker 1: a prefect. You know, I didn't have to go to
Speaker 1: study hall at night. I can go to the library
Speaker 1: and study and whatever. You know, I didn't have to
Speaker 1: have lights out. Um. You know, I had a lot
Speaker 1: of privileges, um because you have and um. So they
Speaker 1: were like, no problem, we're not going to take away
Speaker 1: your title. We're not going to take away your privileges,
Speaker 1: but you can't live in this dorm anymore. Um um,
Speaker 1: because you're dating a girl that lives in the dorm.
Speaker 1: She actually lived in a connecting dorm. We didn't live
Speaker 1: in the same door. Um, and where was anyone else
Speaker 1: who was an R or an r A dating anyone
Speaker 1: else else who lived in that dorm? Like, was that
Speaker 1: just like a rule they made up for you girls
Speaker 1: only school? No, it's this co ed school, but girls dorms. However,
Speaker 1: I did get in trouble for illegal co ed visitation.
Speaker 1: I was in another girl's dorm and a boy was
Speaker 1: hanging out in there. But we had coed this time
Speaker 1: on the weekends from like two to four. And it
Speaker 1: was like Jesus, but you had to have one ft
Speaker 1: on the ground and the door and the doors had
Speaker 1: to be and the doors had to be had on
Speaker 1: the ground on the ground to fact. But we couldn't
Speaker 1: even be sitting on the bed. You had to be
Speaker 1: like chairs. You have to finger someone on a chair
Speaker 1: in front of everybody. Done. There's a way. Kids will
Speaker 1: find a way to fund Yeah I did anyway. Um,
Speaker 1: they it was like four oh five and like some
Speaker 1: lady walked in I don't know, some teacher, and she
Speaker 1: immediately wrote me up for because there was a boy
Speaker 1: in the room and it was after four and and
Speaker 1: like everyone knows I'm gay, Like who I'm not, definitely
Speaker 1: not getting fingered by bob um and I just had
Speaker 1: lost track of time. And anyway, also five minutes after
Speaker 1: like no big deal, so whatever I had to do,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, i'd like clean gum out of the vands
Speaker 1: on Sunday or something. You know, we went to school
Speaker 1: on Saturday, so it kind of sucked to have to
Speaker 1: get up early on Sunday. Then. Um so but this
Speaker 1: there is this gay kid, this gayboy who would always
Speaker 1: be hanging out in Loch Hall, which is a girl's dorm.
Speaker 1: Any time. He would just walk in and like everyone's
Speaker 1: very excited about it. Never got written up for anything,
Speaker 1: like nobody cared, and I was like fucked up. Um,
Speaker 1: but uh, you know, so stuff like that would happen.
Speaker 1: But it's when they found out I was dating this girl. Um.
Speaker 1: They they just were like, oh you can't that's what
Speaker 1: they use. Yeah, that's what they said. But they were like,
Speaker 1: but don't worry, you know, like we're not going to
Speaker 1: take anything away. So they're like so basically they were like,
Speaker 1: if you move really quietly around ten pm at night.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll get a van. You can put all
Speaker 1: this stuff in it. We'll just take it. We'll move
Speaker 1: it over. We you know, we're gonna put you in
Speaker 1: a room with this really nice girl like you used
Speaker 1: to call me pussy lips the girl, but we bad.
Speaker 1: I think it started, she's I think it started out
Speaker 1: as a bad way, but then she's like, nah, the wait,
Speaker 1: I like you, pussy, I would say. I was like,
Speaker 1: and then you hooked up so bad? Damn it. I
Speaker 1: was hoping I had a girlfriend. And how did you
Speaker 1: find out? At the ten year reunion? Who told you? Well, actually,
Speaker 1: as soon as I got moved to that dorm. The
Speaker 1: next day, I got called into the headmaster's office and
Speaker 1: they immediately took away my entitle and my privileges like
Speaker 1: they promised you wouldn't be taken away of course, yeah, which,
Speaker 1: of course did they give any reason for that. They
Speaker 1: just a boy was in your room at four or five. No,
Speaker 1: they just were like, well, you know you don't have
Speaker 1: prefect duties anymore, so you're not entitled to the privileges.
Speaker 1: So I told them I would sue if if they
Speaker 1: bothered me, and then I was going to do whatever
Speaker 1: I wanted. For the rest of the year, I did
Speaker 1: whatever I wanted, and I said, if they stopped me,
Speaker 1: I would see the school. What is whatever you wanted
Speaker 1: in tail the same thing? Like I didn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't have to be at study hall. So you
Speaker 1: just kept doing that, and I kept being a good athlete,
Speaker 1: and I kept getting great grades, and I kept, you know,
Speaker 1: I would be in bed on time. But you know,
Speaker 1: I like, you know, you tell me to be in
Speaker 1: my room. I don't have to be in my room.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go to my room. Yeah and try me. Yeah, basically,
Speaker 1: And so far as far as like sports going, you
Speaker 1: were playing on women's teams, yeah, and which was awesome.
Speaker 1: You probably very crush because I'm big and like we're
Speaker 1: how we're like you treated by the coaches and your
Speaker 1: fellow athletes. Totally fine, Okay, everybody was cool. My obviously
Speaker 1: played on the softball team. Dude, it's the best fast pitch.
Speaker 1: Get it in there. N C double A went on
Speaker 1: what was your position? First and third high corners. I
Speaker 1: hated the basis because I'm always like, don't for the
Speaker 1: ball to me. I always shortstop was my thing. I
Speaker 1: got my face kicked in. Yeah, that's what I'm afraid of.
Speaker 1: I actually had plastic surgery and to reconstruct my entire
Speaker 1: the right side of my face. Some commitment. Yeah, this
Speaker 1: pitch damn. Um. Yeah, so I got kind of weird.
Speaker 1: When I went to college. They put me on third
Speaker 1: because I throw really fast. Yea, um, but I was
Speaker 1: I kept like freaking out about one because everybody hits
Speaker 1: up the third base line, you know, right whatever? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, but yeah, it's big responsibility. Well, and now
Speaker 1: you have Towret syndromesode, how does that affect affect you
Speaker 1: as an athlete? I wrote my entire thesis on this. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: let's up, this is going to be great. Yeah. Honestly,
Speaker 1: my thesis was about UM alternative UM practices to dealing
Speaker 1: with the effects of Tourette syndrome, basically without taking medicine
Speaker 1: and things like this. And I find that a lot
Speaker 1: of like sports, art, music, saying there anything creative release
Speaker 1: outlet or yoga or meditation, if you can do it,
Speaker 1: I cannot. I get derailed. But UM, I find that
Speaker 1: completely helps, Like if you can find yourself really focused
Speaker 1: and really into something that you're doing stopped to attract yourself.
Speaker 1: It's almost like staring or like meditating. Yeah, when did
Speaker 1: you first develop symptoms of dreats? Was around let's see,
Speaker 1: six or seven years old? Yeah, I actually remember it.
Speaker 1: Oh what happened? Yeah? Um, I was. I was a
Speaker 1: really interesting small child. It was my twin brother took
Speaker 1: up a lot of space, yelling a lot. You know,
Speaker 1: he's a regular kid. And uh, and I always hated
Speaker 1: loud noises. Um, which is common with kids with turettes.
Speaker 1: It's common with kids with autism Asperger's O C D
Speaker 1: A D D A d h d N O c D.
Speaker 1: They're all related. They're all like similar spectrum and usually
Speaker 1: they're they're like co diagnosed. You know. Usually you have, like,
Speaker 1: you know, a case of anxiety with like a side
Speaker 1: salad of tourettes. You know, I think I just have tourettes,
Speaker 1: which is weird. Also more common in men apparently. Oh yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: my twin brother doesn't have it. He has epilepsy, which sucks.
Speaker 1: But they're not related. But we twitch a lot. Um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I found out that. Um wait, what when
Speaker 1: you first got diagnes? What was your first symptoms? What
Speaker 1: was that moment yeah. When I was like six years old,
Speaker 1: my my, I never asked for anything, Like it was
Speaker 1: really quiet, like weird, little kid, like just like I
Speaker 1: just wanted to grow up and like go be gay
Speaker 1: and get the funk out, just go be who I
Speaker 1: was allowed to be. Yeah, and you were so polite
Speaker 1: about it. In the meantime, like, you know, I hated compliments.
Speaker 1: My dad would hit me across the head say thank
Speaker 1: you when I'd be like I didn't ask for the compliment,
Speaker 1: you know, like why very good. Um. So, when I
Speaker 1: was about six or seven years old, my older brother
Speaker 1: Jeremy and my father were screaming about something, and I
Speaker 1: remember saying, you know, sitting on we were on a
Speaker 1: boat in the Bahamas because my dad's a fisherman and
Speaker 1: we I was just like, oh god, I gotta get
Speaker 1: him to stop, you know. And so I walked up
Speaker 1: to them and I was like, you know, hanging on
Speaker 1: my dad's pants, like hey, hey, hey, hey. You know,
Speaker 1: I was like in my mind, I was like, if
Speaker 1: I asked for something, his mind will be so blown
Speaker 1: that they'll stop screaming at each other. And he just
Speaker 1: turns around and looks at me, and it just pushes
Speaker 1: me away and says not now, Lizzie like screamed at me. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna ask him to get me a
Speaker 1: glass from up in the cabinet of just tracked him fighting.
Speaker 1: And I remember like I was so put off and
Speaker 1: that the loud noise like scared the ship out of me,
Speaker 1: that I went down into the lower level of the
Speaker 1: boone and I went to a bedroom and I laid down.
Speaker 1: I was so angry, like so angry, and I was
Speaker 1: like staring at the ceiling and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I was just like well bang, like just like a
Speaker 1: huge energy surge like went through my body. And it
Speaker 1: was the first time I twitched, and it scared the ship.
Speaker 1: It scared the ship out of me. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: And then and then it just would happen like every
Speaker 1: five seconds or you know, wow, And I never stopped.
Speaker 1: I was saying, like, what did a doctor ever explain
Speaker 1: it to you? Like? What what is to rats? If?
Speaker 1: In short? Well, you know, I went to my mom
Speaker 1: maybe um when I was like seven same age seven maybe,
Speaker 1: and I asked her, you know, what is I have
Speaker 1: this feeling? I get this like itch and I need
Speaker 1: to scratch it. You know, and uh she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's weird. You know whatever. Moved on,
Speaker 1: So you're kind of just dealing with this by yourself
Speaker 1: for a bit. Um. When I was about twelve years old,
Speaker 1: oh god, my twin brother was in therapy because my
Speaker 1: is divorced at nine and he was having a hard
Speaker 1: time dealing with everything. And UM always like I'm like, dude,
Speaker 1: who's the chick? Okay yeah? Um? But he um, he
Speaker 1: couldn't go that day because he had to go to
Speaker 1: you know, like it's a Sylvan learning center for study
Speaker 1: or something. So I was like, oh, you know, me,
Speaker 1: me me, you know, I'll take I'll take that. I'll
Speaker 1: take his his whatever. No big deal with the same thing,
Speaker 1: same time but different. So um, I go in. I
Speaker 1: walk in with the lady five minutes and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I feel this this itch and I have to scratch it.
Speaker 1: And she goes, oh yeah, She walks over against the DSM,
Speaker 1: pulls it out, opens it up. Bang turettes. You have tourettes.
Speaker 1: And I was excited to because kids in school are like,
Speaker 1: what the fund is wrong with you? You're younger, your
Speaker 1: upper bodies twitching? How did your parents not be like, wow,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, our kids started twitching. Well, my
Speaker 1: dad was like, it's a choice. Oh yeah in my mind,
Speaker 1: and I can stop it. According to my father, what thing?
Speaker 1: I know? What's your dad's worst quality of you knew
Speaker 1: if you ever asked him if that was a choice.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Oh no, he doesn't believe the global warming.
Speaker 1: It doesn't none of that. Yeah, you're never gonna get
Speaker 1: through that, guy, Jesus. Yeah, yeah, I gave up a
Speaker 1: long ago. It's it's just heartening. But it's like, you
Speaker 1: know what, maybe if I can just accept that and
Speaker 1: then we will hang out on the holidays, I see,
Speaker 1: it will be cordiale. We can play a game of
Speaker 1: scrabble if you want, and then I'll be on my
Speaker 1: fucking way. Perfect. Yeah that's fine. Yeah, choose your battles.
Speaker 1: At this point, I'm a grown as human. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: I don't even need It's fine. Yeah. Um but yeah.
Speaker 1: So when I walked out of the therapy session and
Speaker 1: I go, hey, mom, guess what I have tourettes and
Speaker 1: she goes, I knew it, and I was like fucking
Speaker 1: new yeah the whole time, And I was like, you bitch, Yeah, twelve,
Speaker 1: and I was like, mother, yeah, because you were just
Speaker 1: you were dealing with us all by yourself, and you
Speaker 1: were getting doubted or getting five years. When I was
Speaker 1: nine years old, I was like taking in part of
Speaker 1: my school and putting it back together for no reason
Speaker 1: and because I'm butch. And my mom actually came into
Speaker 1: the garage a couple of years earlier to sent me
Speaker 1: down to tell me I was gonna be made fun of.
Speaker 1: She's like, You're brutally going to be made up. She knew.
Speaker 1: I was like, but why that's sucked up? Why would
Speaker 1: anyone do that? She was like, well, kids are cruel,
Speaker 1: and I was like valid and she was like, but also,
Speaker 1: you're really tall, you have a shaved head and a
Speaker 1: rat tail, and you twitch a lot. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I went to school with like twelve kids. Are
Speaker 1: you glad she gave you that warning? One percent learning
Speaker 1: that people are terrible changing, And she told me that
Speaker 1: it was up to me how I wanted to deal
Speaker 1: with it. She told me I could be She was like,
Speaker 1: you want to hit him? Hit him, which I probably
Speaker 1: honestly tell my kids. I was like twice the sizes
Speaker 1: all the other kids did you end up getting made
Speaker 1: fun of a lot. Fu. Yeahd fun of a ton,
Speaker 1: but I would just beat him up. Actually, the school
Speaker 1: and my elementary school thought I was a bully because
Speaker 1: of it. But I was made fun of and I
Speaker 1: was retaliating. Were handling your business exactly because I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, making fun of someone who's like big, it's
Speaker 1: not really the smartest move. Kids are smocks. But we
Speaker 1: also went to school from pretty scholed through eighth grade.
Speaker 1: I didn't think so, you know, we and it was
Speaker 1: like twelve of us, twelve to twenty four or something.
Speaker 1: You all knew each other. Yeah. It wasn't until high
Speaker 1: school that I was actually made fun of. Like that
Speaker 1: was like felt like real made fun of, like buy
Speaker 1: a complete fucking stranger, cruelty. What was said? They? Well, besides,
Speaker 1: well in college you know people that there was rumors
Speaker 1: going around and I was like a crackhead and cokeatt
Speaker 1: and all this ship and I just like put on
Speaker 1: a T shirt fun. Yeah, I mean it's like a
Speaker 1: fun college room. Sounds bad, that's fine, Oh you got
Speaker 1: all the drugs and that was just like really, but
Speaker 1: in high school, it was just you know people, you know,
Speaker 1: they would say things like, oh, don't don't hang out
Speaker 1: with that kid. He has an STD you know. Um,
Speaker 1: so why it was all twitchy and ship you know,
Speaker 1: you don't want to catch that like whatever. Idiots and
Speaker 1: they knew that was a lie, right, They just wanted
Speaker 1: to feel superior to you because they were confused or
Speaker 1: they you made them question and some part about themselves
Speaker 1: and they wanted to protect on you. You know, somebody
Speaker 1: didn't want to sit next to me or like freak
Speaker 1: out if I moved. But you know, and I'm not
Speaker 1: mad at them for that. Like if I said, if
Speaker 1: somebody sits down next to me and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I have like a quick spat is them and it
Speaker 1: scares them, Right, I'm not mad at them. Does that
Speaker 1: happen to you currently, like now, like a subway, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 1: People move, I get followed by like security and like pharmacies.
Speaker 1: Really I'm tweaking, I'm going to steal You're a drug? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I think there's probably a STEGM because you have a
Speaker 1: lot of tattoos as well. I mean people have like
Speaker 1: like just people. I have a friend with tattoos and
Speaker 1: she just gets so much ship that I would not
Speaker 1: even think of really, yeah, because I mean people still
Speaker 1: have this segment like people with tattoos are like doing
Speaker 1: drugs and like kind of like living this like punk lifestyle.
Speaker 1: Like what, Yeah, it's crazy. It's I mean, I have
Speaker 1: like two master's degrees. I'm a I'm an entrepreneur, I'm
Speaker 1: a TV show, I'm an artist. Like, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to stay. You should get that on like
Speaker 1: a little placard and just show it to people anytime.
Speaker 1: I mean I try to show that to my father,
Speaker 1: but you know, apparently that's not en Yeah bummer. And
Speaker 1: how does shruts affect your sex life? O? Man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so fascinating. I don't even think of that. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: why would you? I don't know, maybe, but some people do,
Speaker 1: like you did. I usually did. I'm a perve. I'm
Speaker 1: usually like, well, how does that affect your sex? Yeah? Totally,
Speaker 1: because I don't have Tourettes, but I I have O
Speaker 1: C D and I do. I am a little twitchy,
Speaker 1: so I think people a lot of times think I
Speaker 1: have Tourett's and I'm like thank you, thank yeah, nervous
Speaker 1: tick or whatever. Yeah, um no, actually it's a great question.
Speaker 1: Um I'd say when I was younger, in my twenties,
Speaker 1: I am living in San Francisco. I was getting my
Speaker 1: m F A. Um, there was a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: I only lived there for three years, three months, nine days. Um,
Speaker 1: I couldn't wait too. I'm not just gonna to get
Speaker 1: out of there. But when I first moved there, um,
Speaker 1: a lot of girls were interested in me, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: and just you know, that's just my thing. But you're
Speaker 1: a babe, Like you have this like I love and
Speaker 1: draw like the like I'm looking on the street and
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know what gender you are, but
Speaker 1: I fucking like it. And you're it's sexy. It's like
Speaker 1: a I don't know, like I'm I have like a
Speaker 1: crush on Leah Dhlia, like boo on. Um. I just
Speaker 1: knew Black just out with her a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I think she's such a babe. And
Speaker 1: she had the scene where she was just all the
Speaker 1: season she was making out with this woman and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's so hod I was so turned
Speaker 1: on and she was like she had game and she's sexy.
Speaker 1: Is something so sexy about the confidence. It's confidence woman
Speaker 1: with game because you don't see it enough. Like I mean,
Speaker 1: it's because confidence is kind of like shamed out of
Speaker 1: women a lot of times. Yeah, um yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean the society. Yeah, they teach you that. See me,
Speaker 1: I don't live in that world. So yeah, San Francis,
Speaker 1: find my own confidence. You were you were? I was
Speaker 1: crushing on Yeah, everyone's crushing on me. And but there
Speaker 1: was a few um times where I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: making out with some girl. I'd say maybe three or
Speaker 1: four different times of different girls would be like, oh,
Speaker 1: why aren't you twitching? And why aren't you twitching? And
Speaker 1: they knew you had yeah, okay, and I was like,
Speaker 1: and I was you just so good at kissing baby? Yes,
Speaker 1: I want to use that game everyone. I remember like
Speaker 1: throwing this one girl like off my lap. She was
Speaker 1: like at the floor and I was like, get out
Speaker 1: of my house. Groupy whoa wait wait because she asked
Speaker 1: you about twitching, well I could tell that she wanted dude,
Speaker 1: I'm not she just wanted to you wanted to suck
Speaker 1: me because I had turetts and she wanted to know
Speaker 1: what kink and wanted to know what it was like,
Speaker 1: and it was expecting me to be like some sort
Speaker 1: of human vibrator. Well, alright, that all right now across
Speaker 1: a lot of insurant people. Yeah, Tourettes, that means that
Speaker 1: he could do it all my pussy, which means I
Speaker 1: don't need to go back, vibrator. That's some dumbass logic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, today I look back at it and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry I pushed you on the floor,
Speaker 1: but it's yeah, you know, But but at that time,
Speaker 1: it was like obdious, Like I knew there was a
Speaker 1: lot going on in that world, but um, I like
Speaker 1: the movie of course, calling like someone you know, a
Speaker 1: group group sucking get on my house grouping, but you
Speaker 1: know it was you probably liked it, but um yeah,
Speaker 1: I know it was that. So that happened a few times,
Speaker 1: but it was you know, back people wanted to because
Speaker 1: of your threats. But bring it back to like sports,
Speaker 1: when I was saying earlier, like if you're really into something,
Speaker 1: you forget about you don't twitch anymore. Really like it
Speaker 1: goes to sleep, like but it just got a bed,
Speaker 1: you know, and it's I was just really into this
Speaker 1: makeout session, you know, and like so I wasn't twitching,
Speaker 1: and that's what happens. If I'm twitching, I'm probably thinking
Speaker 1: about Grandma's playing soccer, you know, like whatever, or something
Speaker 1: like cats eating wet food, like who knows, like I
Speaker 1: don't know whatever. You know, if I'm twitching, I'm not
Speaker 1: into you. It's obvious. I heard the same thing about
Speaker 1: people who stutter, like if they're kind of like doing
Speaker 1: something that they feel comfortable or they or they know,
Speaker 1: the stuttering goes away. Yeah uh um. However, at times,
Speaker 1: turets can be pretty fun. What I do twitch? And wait,
Speaker 1: how is tret's fun? And that maybe just like an
Speaker 1: extra hard thrust on accident accidentally like chopped down on clitter.
Speaker 1: Oh god, now no, I don't I think. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think you can control it, and you know I can.
Speaker 1: I can control when it happens. I can't not do it,
Speaker 1: but I cannot. I can delay. Yeah that's good. Yeah
Speaker 1: yeah um. And then like I can drive and when
Speaker 1: an actual twitch happens, like, can you do you kind
Speaker 1: of like ride the wave of the twitch or do
Speaker 1: you try to suppress that. I don't suppres I try
Speaker 1: to control, okay, so that it's not like you're not
Speaker 1: like over exactly, So I'm not like hitting people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people accidentally hit a stranger. Yeah, usually it's small children
Speaker 1: because like yeah, wait you hit him in the face. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like like walking and like you know, maybe it's a
Speaker 1: dad and a child and like a baby's like running
Speaker 1: up ahead of the father and I'm talking to a
Speaker 1: friend and I'm just like, you know, like just perfect
Speaker 1: like elbow whip, and then I feel like perfect contact.
Speaker 1: You know, this kid is like doing cartwheels like thirty
Speaker 1: feet would laugh so hard. That would be so bad.
Speaker 1: Run Run, Run, would not be happy with me that. No,
Speaker 1: they don't even want you to explain it, like they're
Speaker 1: just gonna come at you. Airplanes, that happens a lot
Speaker 1: because you know how kids always walking up down the
Speaker 1: aisle just might do like an elbow you know into
Speaker 1: the kids like that, like hits his head four times
Speaker 1: on the way down. Do you have any verbal ticks? No,
Speaker 1: I mean I have phonic ticks, which are like a cough,
Speaker 1: sneeze or like clearing on the throat. Okay, um, they
Speaker 1: were worse when I was younger, the kind of when
Speaker 1: you're like thinking about when you're a teenager and like
Speaker 1: you have anxiety around everything. You just want to fit in.
Speaker 1: You just want to like, you know, not be noticed.
Speaker 1: Do you get by? But you're doing everything for the
Speaker 1: first time, like you're like everything stress, anxiety, you know,
Speaker 1: things like that was impossible for me, you know, and
Speaker 1: and so, but you still want that and so that
Speaker 1: will make you twitch more, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like hormones and puberty, it makes you twitch more. And
Speaker 1: like the stress of have the stress of people trying
Speaker 1: to define you were betue in a box as far
Speaker 1: as like gender and sexuality. Does that exacerbate your That's
Speaker 1: a great question, but I actually not with me. I've
Speaker 1: always been so comfortable, calm and like accepting of who
Speaker 1: I am, even if I mean, like I said, it's
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to identify myself via language because
Speaker 1: I don't honestly, they don't really want to. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't it's not my issue. It's everyone else's issue.
Speaker 1: If you have a problem with my existence of trying
Speaker 1: to figure out my deflection of yourself, of me exactly
Speaker 1: like you want. That's why I say here, so you
Speaker 1: want to call me she find that's that that works
Speaker 1: for me. You cannot offend me with this ship like
Speaker 1: I just don't care. Man, I'm just trying to like work, live, eat, sleep,
Speaker 1: fuck ship. And it's so funny because there's so many
Speaker 1: like men kind of like our dad's who's conservative, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, my dad's great. I really love my dad.
Speaker 1: But you know the people who are just they go
Speaker 1: the black and white male female blah blah blah. They're
Speaker 1: the ones going, I don't know, I'm I gonna offend
Speaker 1: you are she or she? And it's like I don't care, like,
Speaker 1: just don't be an asshole to me exactly. And with
Speaker 1: that said, I mean, um, appreciate and like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: respect people who do and their gender and identity for
Speaker 1: you know, whenever I think it's really important to them,
Speaker 1: like I will do my best obviously to call you
Speaker 1: they them or he she or when I was married
Speaker 1: over the summer, you got to call her Mrs you
Speaker 1: know whatever the funk now instead of Mrs Smith. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, I remember one teacher like really got piste
Speaker 1: off and we were called the wrong name after she
Speaker 1: got married over the over some break or something, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's all she had, it is really all
Speaker 1: she act like that people When I used to work
Speaker 1: at the spot when people got went from like ms
Speaker 1: or miss two misses and like I didn't update it immediately,
Speaker 1: they would have one a bit sucking cow sid known anyway.
Speaker 1: But they can so they can be concerned about their
Speaker 1: identity and what you call them. But other people can
Speaker 1: write and I'm and I'll be concerned about that too,
Speaker 1: like that that's what that's who you are like, But
Speaker 1: with me, it just really doesn't. Man, I have done
Speaker 1: my time and I just don't care anymore, Like it's
Speaker 1: not my issue. The world has all of its struggles,
Speaker 1: but I choose not to struggle with these particular struggles,
Speaker 1: not meaning giving myself a pronoun, I mean actual society
Speaker 1: in the way it runs like that. It's not choose
Speaker 1: to not be but heart and bitter. It's not easy,
Speaker 1: though I would not imagine that's not an easy choice.
Speaker 1: I feel bitter almost every day about the ship that
Speaker 1: women have to deal with. And and but it's like
Speaker 1: you gotta just I mean certain people. I think it's
Speaker 1: fun to watch them struggle with trying to identify me
Speaker 1: when I have to just be like, you know, I
Speaker 1: put that put a firm hand on their shoulder, you know,
Speaker 1: I just you know, it's okay. Yeah, yeah, you'll be fine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just call me whatever you want. Yeah, I usually tell
Speaker 1: me about that. You know, most people call me he
Speaker 1: because it presented his male in this world. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say I got I Honestly, I was like when
Speaker 1: I walked into when I met you for the first time,
Speaker 1: I didn't even it'sn't even cross my mind that you
Speaker 1: were anything but just to do and that happens a lot.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, there's how much more this
Speaker 1: is fascinating? I don't know, I mean, what's what is
Speaker 1: the normal? What is something that you wish people knew about,
Speaker 1: like gender queer or trans people, like beyond surgeries and genitalia,
Speaker 1: Like is there anything that you wish people were more
Speaker 1: inquisitive about or a good question? I haven't thought about
Speaker 1: it too much just because it's I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: I'd rather have questions. We asked man, Yeah, like what
Speaker 1: you know, what are what do people want to know
Speaker 1: more besides genitalia and surgeries and stuff like that? Um,
Speaker 1: because genitalia always comes up, Like even in the in
Speaker 1: the circumstances that we were together, it was about menstruation,
Speaker 1: and I mean obviously everyone was looking at you like,
Speaker 1: why why is this dude on this menstruation? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's why I was like, well, like, is it eight
Speaker 1: motherfucking days? All heavy? All eight dude, I'm five of them.
Speaker 1: I'm a baby making machine and five of them, like
Speaker 1: I had sized double D kids and my hips don't lie,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, but I like still want to have a baby,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Yeah, all right, you could not pay me
Speaker 1: enough money, right, do you want to have a baby? Yes? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Well but are you really marrying mostly for the citizen? Well,
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of people do I love?
Speaker 1: Support that? Because I think I do love her, and
Speaker 1: I would. I mean, I just don't really like marriage
Speaker 1: is an institution. Is kind of annoying. Yeah, I can't
Speaker 1: decide if it means something to me or not. I
Speaker 1: don't think it does when it comes to it down
Speaker 1: to like, oh, you're marrying somebody who usually love them,
Speaker 1: like eat a dick, Like no, and it's I don't
Speaker 1: care about that at all. Yeah, um, and just do
Speaker 1: a commitment ceremony and move on, you know, like it's fine,
Speaker 1: you don't need to get because I like the idea
Speaker 1: of celebrating yeah, in front of the people you love.
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody shoul sign prenups anyway, So what's the
Speaker 1: point sign. I don't care if you have one nickel
Speaker 1: because you never know, you never know when you're in
Speaker 1: a hit of bag. Oh man, it's unreal. And well
Speaker 1: even then, if you have kids and you're going through
Speaker 1: a divorce, I mean, it gets nasty. Yeah, just get that,
Speaker 1: you know, can. I think people just don't want to
Speaker 1: get sad like because they want to hope for the
Speaker 1: best when they're getting married, but you know, it's never
Speaker 1: for the best. Expect the worst. I think it's pretty
Speaker 1: solid advice. That's how I love my wife. Even my
Speaker 1: fiance even says that if she wasn't Swedish and I wasn't,
Speaker 1: oh man, she's probably a huge babe. Super Swedish. People
Speaker 1: are so fucking she's actually half Swedish, half Yearguayan, a
Speaker 1: little hite dark. Yeah, she's like brown on Swedish. Wow. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's super beautiful. It's really tall Sweden one day, dude,
Speaker 1: everyone are hot, dude. I would the dudes there no
Speaker 1: talk did a joke about Sweden. They didn't have this
Speaker 1: horrible thing where they were um, sterilizing and likes forcing
Speaker 1: people to be sterilized who had disabilities, physical abnormalities. And
Speaker 1: then the comic it was really dark in the comic
Speaker 1: was like, I mean it worked. That's the hottest population
Speaker 1: I've ever seen, and it was really funny. I wish, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was like they were but everyone there, everyone
Speaker 1: is get looking. It's crazy. They're all just super tall,
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm five eleven and I'm like average female hype,
Speaker 1: maybe a little shorter. Also a lower stress level there,
Speaker 1: so then people would be thinner and just like have
Speaker 1: better skin because it stress really fucking kills you in America,
Speaker 1: I mean stressed murders us. Yeah, but also like they're
Speaker 1: top from birth to like get outside, get make use
Speaker 1: of whatever sun light is there during the first and
Speaker 1: best athletic and creative and make art and do music.
Speaker 1: And when you let people live to the fullest potential,
Speaker 1: look at what you get. It's pretty it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean, there is stresses there from especially with like
Speaker 1: the there's a political group that's getting higher and higher
Speaker 1: on the food chain. They're called the Swedish Democrats that
Speaker 1: are basically Nazis and they're they're called the Swedish Democrats.
Speaker 1: Yea cheese. It's like Swedish meeople's like, oh, these aren't
Speaker 1: me balls at all. It's how is it you're do
Speaker 1: you have a high sex drive? If you have a
Speaker 1: lot of testosterone. I always associate that with a higher
Speaker 1: sex drive, but you know, it varies. Some people don't
Speaker 1: do and some people don't. Some people are just like
Speaker 1: more masculine or more muscular or harrier, you know, and
Speaker 1: they might have harrier and a high sex drive or um.
Speaker 1: I actually I don't know. I think my sex drive
Speaker 1: is pretty normal. Yeah, yeah, I mean I get bored
Speaker 1: kind of quick. But yeah, what's her sex? Yeah? That face?
Speaker 1: I mean that's okay, No, just like sex with the
Speaker 1: same person. However, I don't know. Now, I get it,
Speaker 1: I get it. It gets to be a little stale
Speaker 1: because the part of the fun of sex sometimes is
Speaker 1: like the newness and the what's going to happen? We see?
Speaker 1: That's my like heroin. Yeah, that dude, I say, all
Speaker 1: the times I've chasen dick makes me feel alive totally
Speaker 1: and I never want to grow a pussy whatever it is,
Speaker 1: And it's like that feeling is valuable and I want
Speaker 1: to experience it and I want my partner to experience
Speaker 1: it too, because that's it's invigorating. That's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I've been saying this for years. Well, and also I
Speaker 1: mean I feel like you in particular, I feel like
Speaker 1: people are probably like really throwing you can, like your
Speaker 1: slang puss. Yeah. Probably. I kind of feel like like, yeah,
Speaker 1: people just like are really into finding out you guys
Speaker 1: are so nice? What twiz about? I truly feel this.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I'm on, you know, there was a Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, I can see what's happening here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know I can't toot my own horn,
Speaker 1: but yes you can't, no problem. We're all about tooting
Speaker 1: our own horns, own horn every goddamn day I get around.
Speaker 1: It's fine. Yeah, I've been around. And so are you,
Speaker 1: um monogamous? You have monogamy in your current relationship? I do? Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm currently monogamous. Have you ever had the discussion about
Speaker 1: maybe being monogamous? Yes? How that go not so good?
Speaker 1: When I first started dating my go friend, we were like,
Speaker 1: I don't ask, don't tell you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And that worked out great for me. Okay, for relationships,
Speaker 1: not okay for the army. When she's like twits, you
Speaker 1: haven't come home in five days. Hello, Well she lives
Speaker 1: in sweet and still she lives in Sweden, and so
Speaker 1: when you just want to Sweet and now you were
Speaker 1: visiting her, Yes, exactly, exactly. We've been long business for
Speaker 1: four years, which is why she's an immigration status right now,
Speaker 1: trying to because of the marriage visa, the fiance K one.
Speaker 1: I've been watching a lot of nine D Day Fiance,
Speaker 1: so I'm pretty ninety day fiance. Yeah, I watched. I
Speaker 1: kind of wish I had done that because it's pay
Speaker 1: for fucking everything. Oh okay, they they pay for the
Speaker 1: K one. You have to meet a fiance ninety days. No, No,
Speaker 1: the K one visa. You can bring the immigrant here,
Speaker 1: bring the immigrants immigrants here for ninety days, but you
Speaker 1: have to get married within ninety days otherwise they have
Speaker 1: to go back. For that's too much pressure. I'm marry.
Speaker 1: I'm just said, like I'm there. You have every right
Speaker 1: to be or just as much as I do. There's
Speaker 1: a little bit more to it, but yes, I know
Speaker 1: I did give the TLC version, but I mean that's
Speaker 1: also how the only reason I know, any of the informership.
Speaker 1: It actually takes about a year, and once you finally
Speaker 1: get married, you have to they have to wait another
Speaker 1: hundred days before they even get Social Security. You have
Speaker 1: to prove that you can take care of them, like
Speaker 1: financially while they're here. Why why do you have to
Speaker 1: take care of them? What if they got a job? Dude?
Speaker 1: America makes it hard as fun and depending on what
Speaker 1: well I mean, I mean there is something there. I
Speaker 1: mean as far as like sustaining a country that's fiscally responsible.
Speaker 1: You don't make sure that people aren't coming in then
Speaker 1: like draining the economy. I mean it's not nice, but
Speaker 1: you know, but statistically I think first help the economy,
Speaker 1: right because they buy things and they start businesses a
Speaker 1: lot too. Yeah yeah, but whatever. She's coming from Sweden,
Speaker 1: which just get everything for free. It's like the land
Speaker 1: of ten million. It's like nobody there. You know, if
Speaker 1: I moved there, they probably pay me and they have
Speaker 1: a domestic partnership visa, which we do not have. Like
Speaker 1: you can literally just be like, we'll have the boyfriend
Speaker 1: there and they'll be like cool, come on, they're just
Speaker 1: really trying to get people there. Wait, why is it
Speaker 1: everyone flocking to Sweden. Yeah, I don't know. You have to.
Speaker 1: You have to learn Swedish. I don't speak English there
Speaker 1: they do, but you you have to take classes and
Speaker 1: oh it's like it's required. Okay, that's interesting. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: is not necessarily against that. It's fine. It's going to
Speaker 1: help you ultimately because then you can get around and
Speaker 1: navigate in that country. I mean yeah, but also, I
Speaker 1: mean it is the only country. There's ten million people
Speaker 1: on this planet that speak Swedish. That's it. Do you
Speaker 1: know any Swedish means fence, get into bro whoa. I
Speaker 1: can't tell that Swedish and German. They've gotta be real.
Speaker 1: I was saying, that sounds like it sounds German because
Speaker 1: an American act it seems like a difficult language to learn.
Speaker 1: I just really like baby Swedish, like badly Swedish. But said, uh,
Speaker 1: my Swedish is bad. Yeah, so nateech, which means no thanks,
Speaker 1: and yeah it was good, which means I love you. Okay,
Speaker 1: So when did you guys become in sleek? That sounds like,
Speaker 1: said my dick Sleeka like my pussy. Oh yes, okay, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: you're very close. Yeah, damn. And did you guys decide
Speaker 1: you know, we're not going to do the don't ass
Speaker 1: untel anymore? That was all her. That was I can
Speaker 1: tell that maybe. Yeah. It was about three or four
Speaker 1: months in. Um. She was like, oh, I actually want
Speaker 1: to know now. Luckily at the time I wasn't hooking
Speaker 1: up with anyone else because I'm basically married to my job. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know, like I'm more of a makeup bandit.
Speaker 1: But like those like those like quick Fix, like you
Speaker 1: hook up in a dark alley toilet or toilet, Wow,
Speaker 1: it's harder back there, hey whatever you like. It was
Speaker 1: like the back of a bar maybe, okay, exactly on
Speaker 1: a toilet in the back of an alley, that's been better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean to um, but then like the idea, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm completely in love with this woman. But it was
Speaker 1: just like at that time, like I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I really don't want to tell you about anything that
Speaker 1: I would do like that just would like crushed you.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you don't want to hurt her feelings. It's
Speaker 1: not you don't do it because you're like, hey, way
Speaker 1: does she buy that? But you just it doesn't take
Speaker 1: away your feelings for her exactly. It's hard to understand
Speaker 1: that though under present, I'm actually I'm totally open with
Speaker 1: open relationships and not monogony like whatever. Um, like do
Speaker 1: your thing, you know, if you're gonna start dating somebody,
Speaker 1: let me know. Um. But if it's just like a
Speaker 1: random you went out and you like, fu somebody, just
Speaker 1: like no, it's up, Like I don't. You don't even
Speaker 1: need to be whatever. So you would actually okay with her,
Speaker 1: would dating somebody else not dating, but because you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: if you're dating, giving a heads up, and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's very cash. Well, if you're dating different, then there's
Speaker 1: like another person involved. But if you're just like out
Speaker 1: and you're like like on someone's face, like that's fine,
Speaker 1: have fun. Like you know, I don't have you used
Speaker 1: that excuse. I tripped and fell. She just fell on
Speaker 1: my face. It was fine. I caught her with my
Speaker 1: face Okay, okay, So I'm fine with that, but she's
Speaker 1: not and and I respect that. So we're monogamous. We
Speaker 1: have talked about it, but we haven't really finished that conversation. Um.
Speaker 1: I'd say about six months into the relationship, she was
Speaker 1: just like, well should we just be you know one
Speaker 1: and knowl and so I was like, I'm not dating
Speaker 1: a cute way to put So we still we did
Speaker 1: that for you know, for a while and we're still
Speaker 1: doing that. But we I think about this time last year,
Speaker 1: we had another conversation about casual hookups, you know, but
Speaker 1: it didn't It wasn't that she doesn't want to do that,
Speaker 1: but also she understands that, you know, I lived in
Speaker 1: New York, New York, which has ten million people in it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She lives in Sweden, which the entire country as ten
Speaker 1: million people and the Yeah, so it's a lot more
Speaker 1: like there's a lot more opportunity for me. It is
Speaker 1: the problem with New York. You're constantly tripping over options,
Speaker 1: constantly tripping and falling onto people's faces. Yes, no, it's
Speaker 1: so annoying. I know you said your married to your job.
Speaker 1: Are you talking about the your moving company? Yeah? The
Speaker 1: truck Okay, wait, I didn't know about this. We just
Speaker 1: do like uh, moving delivery corpier like couches, small, small
Speaker 1: moves whatever. So you can holler at me and I'll
Speaker 1: just show up move a couch for you or something.
Speaker 1: What's the website? Um, it's not. It's on Facebook, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: innovative and then last week we have to up soon.
Speaker 1: But I know you have a your show on or
Speaker 1: you had a show season one on Viceland that's now
Speaker 1: available online if you have cable. Uh. And it's called
Speaker 1: Twiz and Tuck. It's also on demand. Perfect. I can't
Speaker 1: like expociate. I don't have time to peep, but I
Speaker 1: was like, I need to watch this. Can you tell
Speaker 1: us a little bit about that and how it came about? Yeah? Sure,
Speaker 1: Um so it's called Twiz and Tuck. It's on Viceland
Speaker 1: and it's um uh, my friend Tuck is getting married
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I don't want to give it
Speaker 1: too much away, but um so I decided to take
Speaker 1: him on this epic road trip bachelor party, barodio thing
Speaker 1: across country. Um, Tucks transgender used to be a porn star,
Speaker 1: like all this stuff sober. Um, I'm gender variant, I'm
Speaker 1: not sober. I'm not a porn star, even though it
Speaker 1: almost was once escorted once or twice in my life,
Speaker 1: but um, but not once money for some of those times.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, but yeah, for sure, it's easy. I
Speaker 1: could have been getting paid for this ship, but so
Speaker 1: we decided drive across country, and because he's sober, I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, an im porn star. I was like,
Speaker 1: forget strippers, forget bars, you know. So I was like,
Speaker 1: let's do something fun. And I decided to know, we're
Speaker 1: going to take him to every place he's ever lived
Speaker 1: growing up, which is so on the road. I love this.
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, which includes finding an ex boyfriend that got
Speaker 1: him pregnant. You know what's upon a time, you know
Speaker 1: so and you know I don't want, like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't want to give too much of way. So um,
Speaker 1: so that's kind of what the show's about. And it
Speaker 1: came around. Um. I worked on a film a few
Speaker 1: years back. I was hired to find talent and I
Speaker 1: was seen in b roll by the production company that
Speaker 1: the director sent and the director, yeah, every actors like
Speaker 1: dying for this moment. Um. Yeah. I had to pretend
Speaker 1: I was like an underaged transgendered boy basically because we
Speaker 1: couldn't get the kids parents charisma. Do you need to
Speaker 1: be discovered from background on a b roll? Basically whatever
Speaker 1: that they were just like, you know, okay, cool, like
Speaker 1: what you're doing. But that dude in that dude in
Speaker 1: the back, like you need to pitch something with those guys,
Speaker 1: And so I talked to her name is Elvia Lynde
Speaker 1: was a director for us on Twiz and Tuck and
Speaker 1: uh yeah, and that's kind of I mean honestly, then
Speaker 1: it just like unraveled. It was like over for three years. Wow.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like a quick thing, right, So it's
Speaker 1: Tuvy as Tucks already married, Tuck is marriage. Okay, did
Speaker 1: you make it to the older Watch the show because
Speaker 1: a lot happens. It's not scripted, it's documentary. Anything Viceland
Speaker 1: does is not going to be like all right, so
Speaker 1: like mad at Twiz right, like you've maddt I'm like,
Speaker 1: I hate that show. I had have got a really
Speaker 1: bad experience with reality, but yours seemed positive ship right, Honestly,
Speaker 1: it seems to it. You know, we originally were with
Speaker 1: Pulse and then Vice and Pulse merged and then Vice
Speaker 1: start because it was gonna be a web series and
Speaker 1: the Advice took over a minute TV show. Um, I
Speaker 1: love Vice. They're not the best at marketing, but I
Speaker 1: do like that they were open to these things, so
Speaker 1: many interesting things. Every time they've been doing videos on Facebook.
Speaker 1: Everyone is It's the most the interesting thing I've ever
Speaker 1: seen entire life. My twin brother, um, he plays, he
Speaker 1: has vicelane on all day long in this house, just
Speaker 1: like it's so informative. That's awesome. Well, you're you're an
Speaker 1: amazing person and you lead an amazing life, and that's
Speaker 1: so cool and we really appreciate I appreciate you guys existing.
Speaker 1: Where can we find you online? Um? What social media? Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you want to, I mean, if you don't, you
Speaker 1: don't have to say. We just give a little plug,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean my handle on Instagram is twizz
Speaker 1: rhymer one word, no space, but t w i z
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