Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast acts as a vehicle for
Speaker 1: Dan's bits. Welcome back to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Kansas, and I
Speaker 1: am joined by a room. Oh yeah, if they're filled
Speaker 1: with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosenthal. What's
Speaker 1: up boys? Hey Dan? This is by far the longest
Speaker 1: we've ever gone without doing a show with the four
Speaker 1: of us. Um, but we're now the gang is back
Speaker 1: together at least for one show. That's nice. Isn't it
Speaker 1: the first time together since? What the recap of Super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty one? It's it's been ages. Well there was.
Speaker 1: There was also the Super Bowl fifty one preview show.
Speaker 1: We were all together for that, right, No, because we
Speaker 1: went all together. Um, it's like one of the one
Speaker 1: of those bands where now it's like I'll take my
Speaker 1: base part in New York. Yes, I'll just send it
Speaker 1: over to you in London. We actually don't hang out
Speaker 1: at all a lot of side projects. It's like we
Speaker 1: actually didn't see Axl Rose for four years. He would
Speaker 1: just come in in the middle of the night, lay
Speaker 1: down vocals and leave. Where at the Guns and Roses
Speaker 1: use your illusion? Uh stage for our career. No, that's
Speaker 1: not true, but there's you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff going on. West in his his proud fight against
Speaker 1: the big sea, and we're good, good point of progress
Speaker 1: on that. Right? Did you kick little ceas has Little
Speaker 1: Ce's gone baby? And maybe I'm gonna I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: say like it's been two and a half weeks. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say, yeah, if you need someone to look
Speaker 1: up to, I'm right here. You are an example of
Speaker 1: fortitude and bravery. Really yeah, an inspiration, but really you are.
Speaker 1: Now you're done with radiation and chemo. West, you rang
Speaker 1: the bell I did? It was kind of a weird thing.
Speaker 1: Did you know that existed? I I didn't hear about
Speaker 1: this until about a month ago, but I was looking
Speaker 1: forward to it. Yeah, people are not aware it didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you posted that publicly, West, but
Speaker 1: I guess on the on my Instagram. Okay, on the
Speaker 1: floor where this stuff goes down, there's a bell that
Speaker 1: you ring when you finish the rounds of chemo and
Speaker 1: radiation and you're done with that. That's awesome, done with that.
Speaker 1: And my next step is to visit with the surgeon.
Speaker 1: He'll put me through some tests, find out how much
Speaker 1: is still left in my body and schedule surgery for
Speaker 1: I was looking now like sometime in mid to late August,
Speaker 1: all right. I liked when you rang the bell and
Speaker 1: like a fleet of nurses came out and congratulated you
Speaker 1: and clapped for you. It's funny when I because I
Speaker 1: was on vacation, when I finally kicked Little C and
Speaker 1: no bells, no nurses, and it was like, okay, that's fine.
Speaker 1: It was a proud you did it in silence perhaps,
Speaker 1: but you you, you, you were victorious. No no one
Speaker 1: be the case of the sniffles caused by a hangover
Speaker 1: better than you. Okay, that's fair, that's fair. That's that's
Speaker 1: the treacherous part about Little C. You are left to do.
Speaker 1: You're fighting really in a dark corner with nobody watching, yeah, support,
Speaker 1: and you're mocked on top of it. It's not right,
Speaker 1: it's not big. See if you if you really take
Speaker 1: a step back, is a little bit of a Glory
Speaker 1: b situation, Glory boy's situation. Little see, you're alone, you
Speaker 1: grow from it. Ain't no bell to ring. Put it
Speaker 1: that way. Okay, this is ridiculous, West, We're very happy
Speaker 1: that you are moving along in a positive direction. Uh,
Speaker 1: and that you're with us today. We're all together for
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Speaker 1: Tuesdays and then any other stuff that pops up there.
Speaker 1: Today's show, uh is it's pretty good when I'm very
Speaker 1: excited about it. With the four of us together, we're
Speaker 1: gonna go through whatever whatever is fit for news or
Speaker 1: whatever passes for news. Uh here in uh mid to
Speaker 1: late July. What I don't even know today one day
Speaker 1: before Steel Day. There you go, bes Steal Day coming
Speaker 1: right up in a big spot. Mark, So glad to
Speaker 1: be back for that with all of you. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: uh so we'll go through the news and July thir teenth,
Speaker 1: uh and then uh we'll check in. Uh. I know this,
Speaker 1: This could get a reaction in this room. Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: hosted the SPS, which I did not watch, but I
Speaker 1: did check out the monologue this morning and wrote about it.
Speaker 1: On the end around, I'll play some of his um
Speaker 1: his best singers in his ten minute monologue and we
Speaker 1: can all chime in how Peyton did. Uh, And then
Speaker 1: we'll bring it back. I mean, if you're gonna bring
Speaker 1: it back, bring it back in mid July. Oh you
Speaker 1: know what it is, qualatta And if you don't know
Speaker 1: what it is, that's a lot of mystery, because how
Speaker 1: would you there are no context clues for a new
Speaker 1: listener to what Fantasia is. I mean, unless they spoke
Speaker 1: the language that we're speaking. But we made up the
Speaker 1: language more or less. Well, I went through a Google translator,
Speaker 1: so it's probably um alright. So but before we get
Speaker 1: into the end, we'll get a satellite hero on the
Speaker 1: horn that we haven't heard from in a while. So
Speaker 1: a very good show. I'm excited. Uh say hello to
Speaker 1: Sully behind the glass Fellas. Hey, buddy, pre show grade.
Speaker 1: I gotta go with an a personally and it works. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, no personally, but I was I was gonna
Speaker 1: ask Dan, what's your pre sar You've been on the
Speaker 1: edge of being monest and told to you know, all right,
Speaker 1: let's pipe out a little bit, Sully. I think this
Speaker 1: is where now you've gone over the lot. That's fine.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I was giving my own opinion where it
Speaker 1: was asked for it not I was, But I was
Speaker 1: gonna ask Dan, what is your pre show grade? Well,
Speaker 1: it's funny you should ask that, SULLI because a lot
Speaker 1: of times we all oh, Dan always says the same thing.
Speaker 1: But with the four of us all together for the
Speaker 1: first time in a month and some fun things to
Speaker 1: talk about, and back from vacation, kicked a little ce
Speaker 1: big season trouble and big trouble over to my left,
Speaker 1: I mean an obvious B minus. Let's do some new
Speaker 1: play Number one h Peyton Man. I guess we'll get
Speaker 1: to Peyton a little bit later. And uh, let's talk. Oh,
Speaker 1: let's talk a little Sam Donald. You guys know this guy.
Speaker 1: You guys know Sam. All right. It feels unnecessary, but
Speaker 1: I got you anyway. He was on the No, he's
Speaker 1: not a member of the Jets. He's not Declair for
Speaker 1: the NFL draft. Uh, he is, in my wildest of
Speaker 1: fever dreams. Um, a fourteen yards, fourteen year starter for
Speaker 1: the Jets. That's a massive star. That h takes me
Speaker 1: out of permanent despair. But there's a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of things that have to happen for the to
Speaker 1: go that way. And first of all, right off the
Speaker 1: top way. I don't think. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys talked about it when I was away last week,
Speaker 1: but Daniel Jeremiah, oh you got moved the sticks maybe, um,
Speaker 1: you know he had talked to some of them, says
Speaker 1: it could be two years before Donald comes out, You're
Speaker 1: not going to be ignored in and uh. Donald actually
Speaker 1: disputed that report on ESPN. He was on the six,
Speaker 1: very hip, very contemporary version of sports Sports Center. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you watched the six. What channel is
Speaker 1: it on? Oh yeah, sports Center? Bro? No, the six
Speaker 1: is it on ESPN center? They've rebranded their six pm
Speaker 1: Sports Center as six? Oh well, now I'll watch it
Speaker 1: with that kind of rebranding with what's her name and
Speaker 1: what's his name? Oh, how dare you? Jamal Hill, Michael Smith?
Speaker 1: I mean, who's watching Sports Center at six pm? Anyway?
Speaker 1: So Donald, he didn't. He disputed the report from Jeremiah,
Speaker 1: which you know, I'm not even gonna touch. But he said, um,
Speaker 1: um that that's not the case. The what the report was,
Speaker 1: that wouldn't be surprised if Donald played two more seasons
Speaker 1: at USC. Donald said that's not the case. Uh. And
Speaker 1: he isn't certain of anything yet uh and questioned who
Speaker 1: those supposed sources are and I'll stay out of it
Speaker 1: again in But then he was asked what his plans are, um,
Speaker 1: and he went with the athlete cliche thing when one
Speaker 1: day at a time, when game at a time, anything anyway,
Speaker 1: And then he was asked about he does he believe
Speaker 1: that the Jets or any team should attempt to purposely
Speaker 1: lose games in order to better their chances of drafting him.
Speaker 1: Uh the hashtag scamp for Sam and he replied, I
Speaker 1: don't think any teams should tank their season because of me.
Speaker 1: I disagree. It's essentially what Peyton Manning did before he
Speaker 1: was drafted. Remember he can went back to school. Oh,
Speaker 1: I remember Mark, he went one in fifteen the previously
Speaker 1: the Jets who lost out. Yeah, and if it happened again, yeah,
Speaker 1: might be following some paperwork in the Chris Westling School
Speaker 1: of Sports fandom. I mean he didn't really he didn't
Speaker 1: really dispute this either. He just said he's taken it
Speaker 1: year by year, which is to to Daniels reporting. And
Speaker 1: point was that don't consider it just d J. Daniel.
Speaker 1: You're like the first person. That's what they do on TV.
Speaker 1: They call him Daniel. And because you're in TV, are
Speaker 1: you wait a second, are you NFL Networks? Greg rusinful?
Speaker 1: Is he something friend? Yeah? And then he reported that
Speaker 1: you know, wouldn't be a surprise based on what he
Speaker 1: knows if he stays for two years, and uh, Darnald
Speaker 1: didn't dispute that. He said he's taking it year by year.
Speaker 1: It has been kind of assumed for no reason at all, that,
Speaker 1: of course, this guy's A is going to be the
Speaker 1: number one overall pick and then B will actually want
Speaker 1: to come out when you really have no idea. He's
Speaker 1: a young kid, he's a red shirt sophomore who knows
Speaker 1: what he's something is going to go wrong, or just
Speaker 1: he wants to stay in school. Why not, Well, that's
Speaker 1: something going wrong for the Jets. The chances that it
Speaker 1: actually works out for the Jets are negative and negative digits.
Speaker 1: I know that, I absolutely, I'm aware that it's nothing
Speaker 1: ever works out, especially something that with this many things
Speaker 1: and this many levers need to be thrown and the
Speaker 1: wheels have to turn in all the certain directions. It's
Speaker 1: gonna somehow the cults will end up with him and
Speaker 1: they and they'll put him on like a seven year
Speaker 1: starting plan or something. I understand that, but I can't
Speaker 1: plan your you can't for better or worse. You can't
Speaker 1: pre plan your season in May and June the way
Speaker 1: that this has been outlined, like the Jets automatically, they're
Speaker 1: gonna watch them go be surprisingly annoyingly. Even that's how
Speaker 1: they lost out on Marcus Mariota. They do that a
Speaker 1: lot as well. Anyway, we'll see and by the way,
Speaker 1: the whole thing two years, maybe we'll be Jets will
Speaker 1: still be in good position. Probably that his west. So
Speaker 1: moving on, Hey, Bruce Arians, good to hear um uh,
Speaker 1: speaking of the Big Sea. He had a spot, a
Speaker 1: cancerous spot of sometime on of some kind of his
Speaker 1: kidney uh in February, and they went in there and
Speaker 1: they removed that. Good to hear that, Bruce. And it actually,
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about in this pot a lot
Speaker 1: that he just didn't seem like himself, and it turns
Speaker 1: out that he uh in addition to having chest pain
Speaker 1: and we had that incident. He was diagnosed with this
Speaker 1: near the end of the season and coached through it and
Speaker 1: and obviously wasn't himself. Hopefully we'll get the old Bruce
Speaker 1: Arians this year. Well, I wonder what he'd have to
Speaker 1: say about what you went through with the hangover that
Speaker 1: delved into a slight cold But um, where you're right.
Speaker 1: I think we could tell that the energy and the
Speaker 1: whole team's energy is a reflection of Arians the previous
Speaker 1: season that it kind of just didn't seem the same
Speaker 1: last year. Um slight cold feels like a bit of
Speaker 1: an understatement, but anyway, Arians was on Good Morning Football
Speaker 1: on Wednesday and he shared a story about drinking paint
Speaker 1: as a kid. I'm I'm happy Bruce Arians alive after
Speaker 1: hearing this story. Uh take it away, g m FB.
Speaker 1: I was allergic to milk as a child, and my
Speaker 1: older brother would always get a big glass and drink
Speaker 1: it in front of me all the time. And Dad
Speaker 1: was painting the kitchen one day, and uh, I saw
Speaker 1: that big, creamy white bucket and just grabbed it and
Speaker 1: started drinking it, and person, if I'm gonna milkin? I
Speaker 1: actually uh got out of a terrible job um in
Speaker 1: my my the year I came back from a freshman
Speaker 1: year of high school. This one was like typical college
Speaker 1: person house painting jobs you get, and I was awful.
Speaker 1: And the first uh, within the first week, I was
Speaker 1: paired up with this gigantic like football b myth guy
Speaker 1: and we put a ladder through an old woman's like
Speaker 1: gigantic window that chattered all over her living room and
Speaker 1: then we poured a white can of paint on this
Speaker 1: woman's UH roof, which like for years later she'll still
Speaker 1: showed a terrible stain. And so I had to get
Speaker 1: out of this job. And I went back in the
Speaker 1: woods and sampled oil paints because they had been um
Speaker 1: giving me allergies. And I was like, if I if
Speaker 1: I have a big scoop of oil paint, I will
Speaker 1: definitely get sick and have a legit excuse to not
Speaker 1: pain again all year. And it went perfectly. Wow, got
Speaker 1: out of the jay, very very cunning. Mark. You've always
Speaker 1: been a very widely man or boy in that case. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, not to bring it back to you know,
Speaker 1: the world of football or anything. But I don't do that.
Speaker 1: I I noticed some real implications in what Bruce wrote
Speaker 1: in his book. I mean, the quote that he wrote was,
Speaker 1: now I feel great, my energy has returned. I told him,
Speaker 1: I'm told him cancer free again. I'm ready for at
Speaker 1: least one more season of NFL football, maybe more. And
Speaker 1: that's something that he put in his book that certainly
Speaker 1: sounds like a guy who's thinking about the end. This
Speaker 1: is UH coach who in just the last has this
Speaker 1: is his third cancer scare of some sort, just in
Speaker 1: the last eight months, he had a problem with his
Speaker 1: digestive track. He had chest pains, and he also writes
Speaker 1: that he now realized nothing is guaranteed in life, that
Speaker 1: you need to enjoy it. You need to celebrate your
Speaker 1: life to the fullest. And he's saying, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: I'll coach more than one year. It that does sound
Speaker 1: like a guy who's at least thinking about maybe maybe
Speaker 1: my coaching career is kind of winding out. This could
Speaker 1: be the swan song for Bruce Arians, Carson Palmer, Larry
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald all in the same season. Which you know, when
Speaker 1: I think about that, we're casting a pretty wide net
Speaker 1: for team of a t NFL. And when I hear
Speaker 1: this quote, I want to be a beacon of hope
Speaker 1: for other struggling with cancer. And my fight is their fight.
Speaker 1: I'm not coaching for myself in two thousand seventeen. I'm
Speaker 1: coaching for everyone who's dealing with cancer. This is my
Speaker 1: charge that that's almost like he's aiming directly. I was
Speaker 1: almost a message to us, Hey, come back to the cards.
Speaker 1: It's a wide open I feel good about the Team
Speaker 1: of a t L this year, um because I feel
Speaker 1: like there's some really good teams to choose from, and
Speaker 1: it seems like we're we're on the same page with
Speaker 1: several of them. Today we are today where it's gonna
Speaker 1: get very thorny, I predict. I think it might be
Speaker 1: one of those. I think it might be the first
Speaker 1: season though, that we choose to pick the team before
Speaker 1: the season starts, which I always thought that that's how
Speaker 1: we should do it. That's because there's some good strong,
Speaker 1: Well what happened to our pick a team out of
Speaker 1: the hat scenario and ride or die with you know,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit different, a little bit cowardly like
Speaker 1: most offseason shows. I forgot that happened. That's a good point. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's move on to the throne of ease. This is
Speaker 1: according to a report from the a P. That's the
Speaker 1: Associated Press and Exclusive Club in the Tony Town. Tawny Town,
Speaker 1: Tony It's very nice town, fluid town where Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and Gazelle Bunch and live has finally admitted the celebrity couple.
Speaker 1: The Blossom Gulpen reported the country Club, that's what's actually called,
Speaker 1: which is so Tom Brady that the country club he
Speaker 1: would be in. It's called the country Club in Brookline,
Speaker 1: a leafy and a fluent Boston, Boston suburb. I'm sure
Speaker 1: Greg you know it well, quietly approved the membership for
Speaker 1: the new England Patriots star quarterback and his super bottle
Speaker 1: model wife West. Um, you know that I am all
Speaker 1: about uh Robin Hood. I'm a Robin Hood figure in
Speaker 1: this building in a lot of ways. You know, when
Speaker 1: did it graduate from coldtown to Robin Hood? Well? What
Speaker 1: the all the wars that I go through in the
Speaker 1: parking lot? You're a man of the people when it
Speaker 1: comes to fighting the parking lot wars. And and I
Speaker 1: know you you're in the exclusive area. Um, West you
Speaker 1: are You're you are from West Cincinnati, born and raised. Uh.
Speaker 1: And how about how about this little anecdote here or
Speaker 1: this little story? Uh? Their application. Brady and Bunchet's application
Speaker 1: languished for two years while other members of the country
Speaker 1: club debated whether the couple might be a little too
Speaker 1: high profile for the privacy minded club founded in eighteen
Speaker 1: eighty two on Chestnut Hill. I don't understand how these
Speaker 1: clubs work, so I don't know. I didn't know high
Speaker 1: profile was a bad thing for these clubs. I assumed
Speaker 1: that they would Grandfather Tom Brady and his supermodel wife
Speaker 1: in just for the publicity. But I guess you don't
Speaker 1: want publicity. This is where you want to be as
Speaker 1: exclusive as possible. Brookline is where JFK and his family
Speaker 1: grew up. And I'm sure the Kennedy's probably belonging to
Speaker 1: this this club if it's been open that long too. Well,
Speaker 1: that all these people in the country club are obnoxious
Speaker 1: for the most part, I mean the fact that they're
Speaker 1: just these country clubs in general are obnoxious. They're on
Speaker 1: my radar a little bit more because Malcolm Gladwell, he's
Speaker 1: got this is your Boy. I was just about to
Speaker 1: bring it up and that his first episode this season
Speaker 1: was about all of the ways that the country club
Speaker 1: owners you know in Los Angeles, basically steal taxpayer money
Speaker 1: through uh you know politics, Bob Hope, and take take
Speaker 1: up all of take up all this space when there's
Speaker 1: no pockets, like enough with your country clubs, let's take
Speaker 1: them that that the idea was basically, let's take down
Speaker 1: the country clubs. Let's he was specifically talking about golf course,
Speaker 1: but part of country clubs. I can't imagine a room
Speaker 1: full of people I'd i'd less want to hang out
Speaker 1: with than like a country club full of like self
Speaker 1: satisfied egomaniacs. It doesn't seem like you're crowd. I worked
Speaker 1: at a couple of country clubs, and I'm sure you're
Speaker 1: doing backroom in the back room at clean clubs. What
Speaker 1: was JFK Jr? Like? All right? You you worked in
Speaker 1: the in the back room. I'm sorry. I didn't mean
Speaker 1: to interrupt you. No, No, that's that's all you were.
Speaker 1: You used to be. You were a caddy all through
Speaker 1: your team. I mean I stopped talking because when you
Speaker 1: said what was he like? I wanted to say dead,
Speaker 1: but then I thought, that's he has passed away. Tragic
Speaker 1: plane crash in Um. Now you know where you crashed,
Speaker 1: don't you? The vineyard? MM? I don't. All right. Finally
Speaker 1: in the news, uh Megatron, you remember him, don't you? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: great player? As I pull up the story, UM, he
Speaker 1: retired at a young age. I believe he was in
Speaker 1: his early thirties. UM. One of the great wide season
Speaker 1: receivers of course of his generation. I believe anyway that
Speaker 1: he's a a Hall of Famer, no doubt about it. UM.
Speaker 1: But the fact that he retired early that's that could
Speaker 1: affect his status. He was thirty years old when he
Speaker 1: walked away, and he spoke out UM about why he
Speaker 1: decided not to come back to the Lions for another season.
Speaker 1: And this was he told UM the Italian media this,
Speaker 1: why does the Italian media care about? Yeah? Anyway, good
Speaker 1: scoopage uh from the Italian media. Anyway. He said this
Speaker 1: in the Detroit News. UM picked it up. I was
Speaker 1: stuck in my contract with Detroit and they told me
Speaker 1: they would not release my contract, so I would have
Speaker 1: to come back to them. I didn't see the chance
Speaker 1: for them to win a Super Bowl at the time,
Speaker 1: and for the work I was putting in, it wasn't
Speaker 1: worth my time to keep on beating my head against
Speaker 1: the wall and not going anywhere. It's the definition of insanity.
Speaker 1: He wanted to win it, but he just didn't see
Speaker 1: that opportunity. Obviously, the reference to playing with the Lions,
Speaker 1: who have never won a Super Bowl. And this feels
Speaker 1: like the perfect time to bring back Um. You know,
Speaker 1: he is a man that is plugged into Lions culture.
Speaker 1: He is our he's our heartland correspondent in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways, and he's also got a sick body, Kevin Patrick,
Speaker 1: coming at you, baby, what's going on? Fellas A long time,
Speaker 1: long time, too long, miss you buddy. What's going on Patrick?
Speaker 1: Before we get into this lion's business, what's going on?
Speaker 1: How's your body? Oh? You know, still working on it,
Speaker 1: Still working on it. Got a lot of got a
Speaker 1: lots to do every day at different different venture every day. Dan,
Speaker 1: We've been talking about this long enough that I know,
Speaker 1: based on the calendar, exactly where you are right now.
Speaker 1: You're about cutting weight because of the beach situation. Not
Speaker 1: about bulk or mass. It's more about cutting up, getting
Speaker 1: that X pack slash eight pack of that that that
Speaker 1: V like if you've got a really hot bot. I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about this. You can get the the
Speaker 1: V that points down towards your genital region. I can't,
Speaker 1: but you others others can. How's that going? How's your
Speaker 1: vicious V? My vicious V is on the rise. COACHESS
Speaker 1: has got me working hard, So yeah, Patrick and I
Speaker 1: discussed this, Daely. This guy is a grinder. He's a
Speaker 1: hard worker. Is he is? He? Would you if you
Speaker 1: had to make an all star team of or like
Speaker 1: a first team All probe beach body is Patrick first
Speaker 1: team all Absolutely, he's been that. He's been that, you know,
Speaker 1: the first team All Pro body, individual or the West.
Speaker 1: You you might have different words than I would on that.
Speaker 1: I think Patrick probably outweighs me at this point. Finally, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's, you know, damning with faint praise. I have
Speaker 1: no room to talk about Patrick's body anymore. What are
Speaker 1: you gonna Are you gonna pile on on that? Patrick?
Speaker 1: But that was a little bit of that was a
Speaker 1: sneak shot that he was basically saying it took cancer
Speaker 1: for you to pass him Patrick. I'm gonna let that
Speaker 1: one fl alright, Kevin Patrick. So there you go. You
Speaker 1: know the story. Hell, you wrote the damn thing on
Speaker 1: NFL dot com, um around the NFL page as a
Speaker 1: Lions fan, a long suffering Lions fan, and Calvin Johnson
Speaker 1: was really the face of the franchise in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways, the biggest face of the franchise since Barry Sanders.
Speaker 1: You could argue, Um, did it sting you at all?
Speaker 1: Were you annoyed at all that this this was the
Speaker 1: reasoning behind Megatron walking away? Well, when I first read
Speaker 1: the read his quotes, my kind of my my first
Speaker 1: unshial thought was like, like, of course, it was more
Speaker 1: than just the injuries. The guy was still playing at
Speaker 1: a peak level even though he was banged up, and
Speaker 1: he cited that, you know, his hand was heard and
Speaker 1: he had you know, concussion issues in the past. But
Speaker 1: I mean, there's always there's there was always something with
Speaker 1: the Lions where the losing will will grind you just
Speaker 1: as much as the injuries. If they were a winning
Speaker 1: team consistently over the course of his career, it would
Speaker 1: be different. If they were close to a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: which he says he didn't see it, then it would
Speaker 1: be different. Maybe he would have hung on a year
Speaker 1: or two more. So, I think anytime the player retires
Speaker 1: before obvious injuries are obvious, declient happens, there's always more
Speaker 1: than just oh my hand was hurting and I've had
Speaker 1: surgeries and I want to hang it up. There's always
Speaker 1: more to the story than that. So this is just
Speaker 1: him at this point, just coming clean with what I
Speaker 1: think most of us knew and being honest about the situation.
Speaker 1: It took him to go to Italy to be honest
Speaker 1: about it, but I think this is finally you're hearing
Speaker 1: it from his his his mouth what I think most
Speaker 1: Lions fans believed to be true from the day he
Speaker 1: said he was leaping. I thought the criticism of him
Speaker 1: that came with this story was unfair. He could have
Speaker 1: blasted the Lions on his way out. He waited sixteen months.
Speaker 1: All he did was answer a question, and what he
Speaker 1: said wasn't even that bad. It was understandable, totally understand.
Speaker 1: It's totally understand the ball. It's also worth noting he
Speaker 1: said a year ago at this time that he had
Speaker 1: decided he was going to retire before the two thousand
Speaker 1: sixteen season even started two thousand fifteen season even started,
Speaker 1: which sort of doesn't add up with with this story.
Speaker 1: So I don't know who this is. Also a guy
Speaker 1: that liked did it alone for the Lions on offense
Speaker 1: for so long while playing through a host of injuries.
Speaker 1: But I would say, I mean, I think it's uh
Speaker 1: Robut Greg's point that it doesn't add up, I think
Speaker 1: years of losing and years of being mediocre do add up.
Speaker 1: I think it's probably something that ground grinded on him
Speaker 1: for years and years and years, and then then you
Speaker 1: see and Dominican walk out the door. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: see your best defensive players. They lost that in the
Speaker 1: terrible way to the Cowboys, and he was probably like,
Speaker 1: lost ore, we basically lost our defense. We're not gonna
Speaker 1: We're not getting any better on offense. I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: give it one more year and then unless something dramatic,
Speaker 1: dramatic happens, I'm gone. I think think that actually this
Speaker 1: saying that that he didn't see the way to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl makes more sense in the storyline if he
Speaker 1: decided before after they lost that playoff game to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys that he just didn't see even if they had
Speaker 1: won that game, that they were going to go much further.
Speaker 1: It's it's I mean, he's only thirty one years old
Speaker 1: right now. I mean he is the same age as
Speaker 1: a lot of the not too far off from some
Speaker 1: of the top wide receivers. In leaks, I'm sure, I'm
Speaker 1: sure he'll he'll tell some like Sicilian reporter that he's
Speaker 1: signing with the Patriots a couple of weeks. Well, I
Speaker 1: think part of it has to do with why he's
Speaker 1: he's comfortable talking about this now in a very blunt manner.
Speaker 1: Is there was the report that he the Lions made
Speaker 1: him pay back millions of dollars and he wasn't too
Speaker 1: happy about that, and it kind of peeved them off.
Speaker 1: And now he doesn't have anything to hold back. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you the real reason now, because if
Speaker 1: they're going to make me do this, then I have
Speaker 1: nothing to hold against you. And maybe a lot of
Speaker 1: Lions fans are upset about it. I'm not upset with
Speaker 1: what he said or how he said it. Personally, I
Speaker 1: can understand it. Um, I can stand white player will
Speaker 1: get frustrated with that, but I think that has to
Speaker 1: do with it. He he doesn't worry about his reputation
Speaker 1: among the Lions anymore. I think it begs one interesting question.
Speaker 1: If you don't pull for the players and you don't
Speaker 1: pull for the teams, if you just pull for the
Speaker 1: sport and what's good for the sport. You kind of
Speaker 1: like the franchise tag because it prevents super teams, it
Speaker 1: prevents teams that aren't high profile from being drained. But
Speaker 1: is it good for the sport If one of the
Speaker 1: best players in the game feels like he has to
Speaker 1: walk away because his options aren't there, because his only
Speaker 1: option is to play for the Lions, they hold all
Speaker 1: the cards, all right. The other point to make there
Speaker 1: is he walked away and the Lions. I know they
Speaker 1: were not a good team, really, but they were in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So if you get the dance, isn't that
Speaker 1: all he ever really want to do is be a
Speaker 1: guy playing in the playoffs. He walked away from a
Speaker 1: team that's still had a great quarterback or good to
Speaker 1: great quarterback to the dance is not nearly the same
Speaker 1: as being a super Bowl contender. The Lions got to
Speaker 1: the dance last year and had no business in it. Well,
Speaker 1: by the way, he wasn't volunteering his services. He was
Speaker 1: paid extremely well to do what he did. I mean,
Speaker 1: if winning team or not. If anything, it shows integrity.
Speaker 1: I was really surprised that he got blowback for this.
Speaker 1: I mean, it shows some integrity that you're not fully
Speaker 1: in it, that you're a guy who really just wants
Speaker 1: to win at this point of his career. And if
Speaker 1: you're not fully in it, then you don't play. And uh,
Speaker 1: all right, finally, before we let you go, Patra, you
Speaker 1: know you're engaged. How's that going. That's still happening, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's still happening. Keep planning a lot of things nodding
Speaker 1: my head along. Can you share the date with us,
Speaker 1: the wedding date. I'll tell you it's next to May,
Speaker 1: next May. So are we invited all of us including Sully?
Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Hey, thanks for your thanks for having me in.
Speaker 1: I applaud that. I applaud that honesty. Um uh. Now,
Speaker 1: a lot of people, you know, building towards beach season.
Speaker 1: It's a nice markerd a goal to have your body tighten, right,
Speaker 1: but a lot of people know if you've been married,
Speaker 1: that wedding a is a really good way for motivation.
Speaker 1: I would think, uh, to quote the great another Chicago
Speaker 1: legend like Kevin Patra, Michael Jordan's Michael Jordan, the ceiling
Speaker 1: is the roof with Patrick's body, with his wedding day
Speaker 1: about nine months away. Now, I mean all bets are off.
Speaker 1: I think with that hot pot, Yeah, we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: probably gonna do less bulking in the winter months, probably
Speaker 1: more a little more two days. Actually, you know, we
Speaker 1: talked about the J. J. Watt collection. Patrick would be good.
Speaker 1: I'll just throw something out there, uh, if you really,
Speaker 1: if you get real yoked, I'm talking you know, Rocky
Speaker 1: in like the second Rambo type yoke, lose the lose
Speaker 1: the suit sleeves entirely and just have the guns out
Speaker 1: like that the altar. Now should I have should I
Speaker 1: have somebody ripped them off so they're more like authentically gone,
Speaker 1: Like that's that's such a good call. What you have
Speaker 1: you come up to the down the aisle in the
Speaker 1: customary suit and then do you have uh, your best man?
Speaker 1: That would be Dan, Yeah, obviously me in this case.
Speaker 1: You know, once you you turn around, this is even
Speaker 1: before when the let the bride come out to then,
Speaker 1: but you tell the priests or the pastor or the
Speaker 1: rabbi hold up, you step in front of your bride,
Speaker 1: you hold your arms out, and then you have your
Speaker 1: best man and your dad or your brother or something
Speaker 1: rip off each sleeve and then you flex and you
Speaker 1: have the church organists going to like, you know, the
Speaker 1: champions at the time. He's a good idea to upstage
Speaker 1: the bride. Oh DMX, DMX go into some DMX. I'll
Speaker 1: pitch that to the fiance and I will let you
Speaker 1: know her response. Alright, good Keevin. The day is about
Speaker 1: your arms and the size of your arms. That's really
Speaker 1: what the day about. Yeah, she'll understand. She'll understand you
Speaker 1: put the work in, all right, Kevin Patra, good to
Speaker 1: hear from you, buddy. Thanks, fellas, have a correct day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a little cheery Kevin Patras kur budget Lee the offseason.
Speaker 1: I guess. Oh, he's a different guy since this woman
Speaker 1: came into his life. You know, he's smiling in pictures,
Speaker 1: he's happy, he's well, you should say, an absolute workhorse.
Speaker 1: The time off that we you know, several of us
Speaker 1: have had in this studio, he's pumping the lifeblood through
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Speaker 1: before this podcast hits our four, let's move on real
Speaker 1: quick and talk about the SPS. I have not watched
Speaker 1: this program um probably ever. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 1: actually watched SPEs and I think it's kind of, in practice,
Speaker 1: a ridiculous show. The Awards, Like most courageous slam dunk
Speaker 1: goes too, it's like, what what are you doing? Well?
Speaker 1: It's tough too. I mean, like you're a if you're
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan like me, it's like you're coming off
Speaker 1: this high of the super Bowl Championship and then you
Speaker 1: lose best Championship team and it's like it didn't even
Speaker 1: matter you have. You have struggled, Craig, wait, is a struggle.
Speaker 1: They gave it to the Warriors best Championship tea. I mean,
Speaker 1: so much for the Patriots. Not a good season, not
Speaker 1: a good enough That's sorry. I didn't even know that.
Speaker 1: It just it makes it so at least there's another
Speaker 1: mountain to climb. Um anyway, Peyton Manning UH was the
Speaker 1: host of the annual SPS how about that? And Uh,
Speaker 1: I just want to share real quick wrote about this
Speaker 1: on the end around some of the UH one of
Speaker 1: his some of his Zingers NFL related Zingers. Uh. Let's Sully,
Speaker 1: let's just go through him the first one about the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams last year's l a Rams on the
Speaker 1: subject of the critically acclaimed docuse series All or Nothing.
Speaker 1: Spoiler it's nothing pretty good. He didn't write that, but
Speaker 1: it's fine. Sully clipped out the applause and laughter. It's
Speaker 1: a shot against Taton there Hennessee the guy. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: how dare you cut out the candle after? Did you
Speaker 1: like that? Wes? No, he's one of the most unfunny athletes.
Speaker 1: I am with West on this, but Liken unfunnier. How
Speaker 1: about stabbing the Rams in the back. Then they signed
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning last year soccer Sully thinks a guy from
Speaker 1: Tennessee is funny. I also, I also kind of like
Speaker 1: the fact that you think Peyton Manning wrote these. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's delivery. He's terrible. Let's check out this delivery. But
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I believe in the Falcons. I believe
Speaker 1: in Matt Ryan dan Quinn, and I don't know in
Speaker 1: my heart the Falcons will be back, right, the Falcons
Speaker 1: will be back. That's build up, same things to build up. Greg,
Speaker 1: You don't have the Falcons to hear that from me
Speaker 1: now at the beginning of the show, because I know
Speaker 1: they'll stop paying attention three quarters the way in. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's slightly tired. But and then they cut the poor
Speaker 1: DeVonta Freeman literally dying inside with a smile. Tough. What
Speaker 1: else have we got? Uh? Philip Jackson's knicks are the
Speaker 1: most embarrassing thing to happen in New York sports, and
Speaker 1: that includes the time Mark Sanchez ran full steam of
Speaker 1: his teammates Anus and fumbled the football. You tired? I mean,
Speaker 1: that's so. Now. Here's the problem is if he if
Speaker 1: he didn't write this, and we assume he didn't, that
Speaker 1: some jokes, some some joke author in l A wrote
Speaker 1: this for him. That's where the embarrassing jokes. Some person
Speaker 1: his job is to come up with these wise cracks
Speaker 1: and the quips came up with that. The joke is
Speaker 1: that Peyton Manning said the word anus. That's the joke.
Speaker 1: And and not for nothing. You know, you're mocking poor
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez of the Jets. Was he there? No, he wasn't.
Speaker 1: The Jets you know, went into Indianapolis and be Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning in the playoffs. Once this guy that you you
Speaker 1: you find it okay to rip in front of literally
Speaker 1: hundreds of people watching at home. Let's listen one more.
Speaker 1: I love the Serena Williams when the Australian Open while
Speaker 1: carrying a child. That probably that was I mean, that's
Speaker 1: even more impressive than two years ago when the Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos defense won the Super Bowl while carrying me. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean you get come. Yeah it sal he cuts
Speaker 1: out the applausant laughter. It hurts the Actually it feels
Speaker 1: a little death like. But yeah, well here's one coming.
Speaker 1: Here's what's going on. We know Peyton Manning's m O.
Speaker 1: He's not the most naturally gifted gun in the world,
Speaker 1: so he works his butt off. But comedy is something
Speaker 1: you either naturally are or you aren't, and he works
Speaker 1: so hard to try to be funny and it just
Speaker 1: doesn't work put he's putting in the time and it's
Speaker 1: not paying off. I didn't say that was funny. They
Speaker 1: said John Mayer couldn't make it a comedy either. What happened?
Speaker 1: You got a great on a scale for an athlete,
Speaker 1: he's good. No, he's not. That's what I'm tired of that.
Speaker 1: Because he's an athlete, he is treated like he's that,
Speaker 1: that that he's some sort of comedic genius. Because he's
Speaker 1: it's always always commercial. So I just can't get enough
Speaker 1: of this commerce. There are plenty of funny athletes, and
Speaker 1: then there's Peyton Manning, who would be rejected as an
Speaker 1: uncle in my worse for athletes who are the funny
Speaker 1: athletes that have been on SNL and done a good job.
Speaker 1: Who beats him? Why do you have to be on
Speaker 1: s n Why need to be on some corporate mandated
Speaker 1: show to be funny? Who beat you? Listen to it?
Speaker 1: I don't know the average Joe up the street. Any
Speaker 1: offensive lineman, everybody any offensive When you are when you
Speaker 1: are taking comedy and making things unfunny, everybody beat you,
Speaker 1: like keeping your mouth shut would be beating him. Save
Speaker 1: this for the Chris Wesley Colan serious about comedy podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've spoken to Marcus Gannon. He's not funnier than Baton Manning.
Speaker 1: That guy is serious. Everybody, everybody calmed down, you said
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Everybody calmed down about Joe Thomas. Joe Thomas
Speaker 1: can pipe down on Twitter a little bit. He is
Speaker 1: he I would say this, he is naturally funnier than
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. Okay, by the way, that's not a high bar.
Speaker 1: We found one, well one offensive lineman. Good job, so
Speaker 1: he comes down just you went to Tennessee like thirty
Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, that's true. Alright. Finally moving on. I
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge Payton Manning comedy fan, but I
Speaker 1: think we have it out for all the Manning brothers.
Speaker 1: You even hate Cooper Manning. I know that personally. You've
Speaker 1: told me privately on boozy nights and have no opinion
Speaker 1: on Cooper Manning. Peyton Manning one of the greatest quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and football players of all time, also one of the
Speaker 1: least funny human beings. Take a fair trade off, can't
Speaker 1: you can't be both? Uh he's got it all to
Speaker 1: me anyway. Um, but opinions very That's why it's good
Speaker 1: to have all the all the four horsemen back together,
Speaker 1: so we could be arguing about a Manning brother once more.
Speaker 1: That's how the show exists mostly. Uh. Finally today, Oh,
Speaker 1: it's time to bring it back. You know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's time for quality to fantasia, which, loosely Mark translates
Speaker 1: to what is your fantasy? Yeah, I thought it was
Speaker 1: what's your fancy? Fancy? What's your fancy? What is your fancy?
Speaker 1: Always I thought it was fantasy. Well, I think we
Speaker 1: put what's your fancy into a Google translation thing and
Speaker 1: it came out as such, So it's all people are
Speaker 1: confused by it. But basically, this is a scenario where
Speaker 1: each of us will throw out um, a kind of
Speaker 1: like a fantastical um storyline or proposition. Uh, and and
Speaker 1: then each of us have to think about it. What
Speaker 1: is your fancy? Uh? With this story? Where do you
Speaker 1: come down? How would you handle it? Uh? Mark? We
Speaker 1: always have to start with you, So why don't you
Speaker 1: get us going a little? All right? The future of
Speaker 1: the NFL rests in your hands? It was the sacks back,
Speaker 1: I guess it is. You must choose one of the
Speaker 1: following options to shift the look of pro football forever.
Speaker 1: Option one you have the choice to immediately expand the
Speaker 1: league by adding eight new teams, giving US forty clubs total.
Speaker 1: These eight teams would satisfy the NFL's mandate for a
Speaker 1: grand international essence, with new franchises in London, Berlin, the Hague,
Speaker 1: the Netherlands, Mexico City, Paris, Bangladesh, Costa Rica and Moscow. Naturally,
Speaker 1: this would require adding another five hundred plus players to
Speaker 1: the league and two brand new divisions. The schedule would
Speaker 1: balloon to eighteen games over twenty weeks, with primetime affairs
Speaker 1: being up to six nights a week to accommodate team
Speaker 1: travel for a league aiming to become the biggest sport
Speaker 1: on planet Earth. Or option two contraction, you must eliminate
Speaker 1: eight teams of your choice, reducing the NFL to twenty
Speaker 1: four franchises across two conferences, no talk of expansion for
Speaker 1: another twenty years. While this might sound like something you'd
Speaker 1: immediately dismiss, it would give football fans fewer teams, stocked
Speaker 1: with far more talent and no riff raff, solid quarterback
Speaker 1: play and roster depth from team to team, with a
Speaker 1: playoff system that seats the entire conference instead of handing
Speaker 1: fans some eight and eight divisional winning stink bomb qualis
Speaker 1: to Fantasia. Good question to go a mark, I'll get
Speaker 1: I'll get us going here. I think both instances were
Speaker 1: in the NFL. They're both extreme. Yeah. One, the one
Speaker 1: where you contract the teams makes the league maybe better
Speaker 1: from a competition angle, but it ruins the NFL in
Speaker 1: which in the in the sense that you rip the
Speaker 1: hearts out of a full quarter of the fan bases
Speaker 1: in the league, and from both from a pr angle
Speaker 1: and just from a decency angle, that just it wouldn't fly.
Speaker 1: And I personally, and you know, maybe they would eliminate
Speaker 1: the other New York team, which certainly would to be
Speaker 1: the Giants. I would I would never come back to
Speaker 1: the NFL if they just ripped my team away in
Speaker 1: the in in the search for some type of better league.
Speaker 1: And the other one, yeah, just think how sloppy the
Speaker 1: football would be. They got all the games they can,
Speaker 1: the injuries, think about the travel issue. Um, if I
Speaker 1: had to choose one, I guess I guess I would
Speaker 1: do the contraction route. But I don't think I could
Speaker 1: watch it in fell that you know, had such disdain
Speaker 1: for their customers. It's an interesting scenario. I would definitely
Speaker 1: not do the eight new teams. I don't want to
Speaker 1: see a watered down NFL. The idea is to make
Speaker 1: the games better, not worse. Contraction, I would choose that
Speaker 1: if I had to, and I would be willing to
Speaker 1: sacrifice the Bengals, you know, I would throw them in
Speaker 1: what also bad as as it seemed to. But I
Speaker 1: think you would run into many political hurdles in this scenario.
Speaker 1: With the um monopoly scenario, oh yeah, you would have
Speaker 1: new leagues popping up, and I believe politicians, especially in
Speaker 1: the cities getting contracted, would push for those new leagues
Speaker 1: to work in. The NFL would have competition. Yeah, Ultimately,
Speaker 1: I agree with everything Dan and West said, and I
Speaker 1: would I would probably go with contraction as the lesser
Speaker 1: of two evils. I don't think it would It would
Speaker 1: be devastating to all those cities. You know, sports leagues
Speaker 1: rise and contract. This is it happens that this league,
Speaker 1: because you know used to rise and contract. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know way back in the day. You know, there's relegation
Speaker 1: obviously in Europe. I don't think it would necessarily kill
Speaker 1: the popularity of the sport. I would hate to see
Speaker 1: it though, but I definitely, you know, don't want to
Speaker 1: be covering the old Bangladesh Bengals four in the morning.
Speaker 1: But Cincinnati's uh, well, since I guess what's the market
Speaker 1: for NFL football in Bangladesh, It's gonna be massive according
Speaker 1: to this NFL world, they're gonna go because the this
Speaker 1: Chargers in the small stadium thing is gonna be a
Speaker 1: big hit. They're gonna play for like forty people in Bangladesh,
Speaker 1: like a little tiny arena for forty people. Would they
Speaker 1: be playing with real Bengal Tigers? So everything's out, everything's
Speaker 1: on the table. By the way, you know who would
Speaker 1: own the Moscow NFL team? Right because the guy already
Speaker 1: tried to own the Bills. Who's that? Who? Trump number? Oh?
Speaker 1: I thought you meant Puttin He's already got a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl ring. Um, so keep that in mind as well
Speaker 1: if you want to go that route. All right, West,
Speaker 1: you're up in the news today. Questions started by ProFootball
Speaker 1: Focus who would you start your franchise with? And Elliott
Speaker 1: shore Parks of NJ dot Com took it in another direction.
Speaker 1: He said he would not take any non quarterback over
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. Paul has two. You start your franchise with
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz or any non quarterback in the NFL? What
Speaker 1: what's an interesting question? Any non quarterbacks? So you can J. J. Watt,
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, Ardell Becca, J. J. Jones or Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: or Carson Wentz the most important position in sports? Am
Speaker 1: I missing something here? Is Carson once proven to us
Speaker 1: that he's a guy that you well? But he or
Speaker 1: has Sam Donald? You know the writer who posited that
Speaker 1: certainly believed, must believe Carson Wentz is a top ten quarterback.
Speaker 1: Consider it? So then it's not that crazy because would you,
Speaker 1: you know, would you rather have Philip Rivers at you know,
Speaker 1: age eight or whatever? And but what do you want
Speaker 1: to have some proof that that's actually the case rather
Speaker 1: than a gut family based on a couple of big
Speaker 1: orders of game tape. I think you won at least
Speaker 1: half a season to know that his wonky mechanics have
Speaker 1: been straightened down in this in this world, I don't
Speaker 1: know how you acquire quarterbacks, what kind of team it is,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I would take I would take the field.
Speaker 1: I would take you know, Julio Jones or J. J. Watt.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, were I would too, because
Speaker 1: if we're talking about an expansion team, it's gonna take
Speaker 1: With the most of these expansion teams, it's gonna take
Speaker 1: half a decade for them to become not a flukey winner,
Speaker 1: but a consistent winner. And you're gonna have time to
Speaker 1: get your quarterback. But I want to put him in
Speaker 1: a better situation when that guy arrives. Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: kind of an offshoot, but who would be the guy
Speaker 1: you would take for me? Would probably come down between
Speaker 1: David Johnson and Julio Jones. Maybe Julio just because the
Speaker 1: way the league's going, But I think consider in age,
Speaker 1: I would take Odell Beckham over Julio Jones. But I
Speaker 1: could see why you would take Julio. Beckham's insane. That's
Speaker 1: the only thing that holds me back. Maybe going to
Speaker 1: his direction. It's also a Hall of Famer. Yeah, mike
Speaker 1: O Antonio Brown, he's thirty. I believe that's a little
Speaker 1: little Well, that's why I'm not a Julio Max not crazy.
Speaker 1: If it was what like a year ago before these surgeries,
Speaker 1: then I would have said, what, Yeah, the back, sir
Speaker 1: Donald is in the mix. Yep, A lot of options,
Speaker 1: A lot of options. All right, let's move on now
Speaker 1: the old zeuser. We'll throw one out there. That's me.
Speaker 1: You are new Cleveland Brown's defensive coordinator, Gregg Williams. During
Speaker 1: the course of your controversial career, you have gained a
Speaker 1: reputation as a no nonsense hothead who demands results from
Speaker 1: his players at the risk of halacious verbal lashings. You're
Speaker 1: also one of the central figures in the bounty Gate scandal,
Speaker 1: the forgotten offseason scandal that, in our opinion at least
Speaker 1: trounced the flake Gate and Bullygate in terms of general
Speaker 1: intrigue and entertainment. About that's a little aside. Let's be
Speaker 1: like sleeping people sleeping a little bit on how wild
Speaker 1: bounty Gate was. I'm not looking back at it wistfully,
Speaker 1: but if I had to choose one to cover exhaustively
Speaker 1: for months, that would be to me the power Rankings
Speaker 1: number one. I digress. It was a strange one. Bounty
Speaker 1: Gate nearly ended your career, but now you are down
Speaker 1: to your last chance as at d C in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: and you know bringing back the pain for pay bookkeeping
Speaker 1: will take Cleveland out of the cellar and back to
Speaker 1: the playoffs. In fact, you know it. You know it
Speaker 1: thanks to a premonition in a dream eleven and five
Speaker 1: a f C North champion playoff future unknown. It's just
Speaker 1: it's basically the dream was after clinching the n f
Speaker 1: C North in Week seventeen, all of a sudden, prospects
Speaker 1: to be a head coach. Everything is in play. The
Speaker 1: risk is obvious. If you get caught for a second
Speaker 1: time for bounty work, the public fallout will be atomic.
Speaker 1: In your career in football will almost certainly be finished.
Speaker 1: Have you guys been capping? I attempted to, Oh, I
Speaker 1: know what I would say, because he's fifty eight years
Speaker 1: old and he's already been His reputation is heavily marred,
Speaker 1: whether people want to remember that whole incident or not.
Speaker 1: And I don't think he's the only coach in the
Speaker 1: league that's, you know, push for aggressive type play. But
Speaker 1: that went beyond the pale entirely. And I would say,
Speaker 1: you don't do it because we live in an age
Speaker 1: where you're not going to get through a season where
Speaker 1: out these young players are gonna say we've heard about
Speaker 1: this too. We're not gonna be a part of this.
Speaker 1: And secondly, someone's gonna talk you're never gonna get this
Speaker 1: is not in nineteen sixty two. Someone's gonna talk it
Speaker 1: got out last time, We'll get out much quicker this time.
Speaker 1: And Greg Williams will go down in disgrace. He's gonna
Speaker 1: live for another thirty plus years and has to live
Speaker 1: with that, just to go eleven and five. No, I agree,
Speaker 1: he's gonna want to earn some money for the rest
Speaker 1: of his life, and he has. He has great proof
Speaker 1: that it's hard to lose your job, that you're always
Speaker 1: find a friend or someone that believes it. Maybe he's
Speaker 1: not a coordinator, but maybe a linebackers coach somewhere. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to happen, and I don't think
Speaker 1: they really learned that much from it. I remember in
Speaker 1: All or Nothing and with the Rams, there's one moment
Speaker 1: where the official tells the Rams to stop, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, pushing a little bit after the play, and
Speaker 1: you know what Jeff Fisher does. He goes to his players, goes, oh,
Speaker 1: the the officials just warned me about it. I want
Speaker 1: you guys to go harder at them, and they're like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Fisher said that. I was like, they don't care, all right,
Speaker 1: if fum Greg Williams. I'm thinking to myself, it's not
Speaker 1: too late to become a better person, Greg Rosenthal. Another year,
Speaker 1: all right. I went back and listened to an old
Speaker 1: show of ours by the way from two years ago,
Speaker 1: to remember what qualiy to Frontage. It was like whether
Speaker 1: it's either or it was some interesting stuff. There was
Speaker 1: a Tom Brady trade to the Raiders on the table.
Speaker 1: We all mocked Reggie mc nz as someone who would
Speaker 1: never have a job in the NFL. Again. West did
Speaker 1: not take Tom Brady, did not want him on on
Speaker 1: the Raiders. Smart going on. So in that same vein
Speaker 1: so I kept Derek Carr. Car wasn't even involved. It
Speaker 1: was it was you didn't even have to give up Car.
Speaker 1: You probably thinking of that. Uh. You are Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: general manager or Steve Time and you get on the phone,
Speaker 1: you're actually check and you get a call from Steve Kime.
Speaker 1: You've lost Carson Palmer for the season to another devastating
Speaker 1: knee injury. You call up your bill and you get
Speaker 1: this call from old Kim Bomb and here's the offer
Speaker 1: for are you? This is good? They don't want to
Speaker 1: waste Bruce arians potential last year. They want to play
Speaker 1: ahead a little bit. They're gonna send you a two
Speaker 1: thou eighteen first round pick from the Cardinals, a two thousand,
Speaker 1: nineteen first round pick for the Cardinals and Larry Fitzgerald
Speaker 1: in exchange for young Jimmy Garoppolo, who can provide the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals with some sort of future. And no, by
Speaker 1: the way, you know you've got so many receivers just
Speaker 1: throwing Malcolm Mitchell for me, send him back, settle back,
Speaker 1: little Malcolm Dirgeon. It's too fantasia. Here's the thing that
Speaker 1: the Patriots obviously believe in Garoppolo. They believe he is
Speaker 1: a guy, or or else they would have traded and
Speaker 1: ready they they're trying to figure the situation now, and
Speaker 1: they're handling it, I think the right way. Um. And
Speaker 1: if they truly believe he is a big time player,
Speaker 1: and if they send it, send him to a team
Speaker 1: like Arizona, which is very close to being right back
Speaker 1: in contention, if some things go the right way, if
Speaker 1: they got two number one picks, is that what you
Speaker 1: said to number one picks? And those those can easily
Speaker 1: end up being thirty, thirty one, thirty two overall picks,
Speaker 1: and then it's like, not that's sexy to me. It's
Speaker 1: not like you're getting a banger of a first round pick.
Speaker 1: So for that reason, I say no, because Garoppolo, you
Speaker 1: think good and if he goes to Arizona, they're gonna
Speaker 1: be great. This was an easy one for me turn
Speaker 1: it down. As much as I want to see Larry
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald in a championship ringing, as much if I'm Belichick,
Speaker 1: he's been one of my favorite players, I don't need him.
Speaker 1: I'm winning super Bowls without Larry Fitzgerald. I got Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 1: I got Julian Edelman, I got Amundola, I've got Malcolm Mitchell.
Speaker 1: I don't need Larry Fitzgerald, and I don't need your
Speaker 1: draft picks either. I need a backup quarterback in case
Speaker 1: my quarterback goes down because I'm in the business of
Speaker 1: winning super Bowls, not building pretty rosters. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I I think they that the moment to get a
Speaker 1: king's ransom for Jimmy g already passed. I mean, you
Speaker 1: could you let let the Cardinals call you back two
Speaker 1: days later with a sweeter offer if they want let that,
Speaker 1: but do what keep doing what you've done, own that situation,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna keep Jimmy Garoppolo around and he's going
Speaker 1: to succeed Tom Brady and maybe Belichick's coaches for another
Speaker 1: eight or nine years. Mark, all right, well this does
Speaker 1: get into similar territory. Is something that Greg mentioned, but
Speaker 1: why not we will go for it. Spent a few
Speaker 1: weeks into the future of the date is July two
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen. We are all locked in for another season
Speaker 1: of work. But you are Bill Belichick Right now. You're
Speaker 1: bunkered inside the Patriots facility, eating a two week old
Speaker 1: turkey club, and pondering the day's most devastating headline. Jimmy
Speaker 1: Garoppolo has just announced his retirement, choosing to ditch football
Speaker 1: to join a clandestine yoga retreat in Central Virginia. You're
Speaker 1: also thinking about the text you just received from Bill Parcels.
Speaker 1: It reads, sorry to hear about Jimmy g This is
Speaker 1: off topic, but I need I need you to know something.
Speaker 1: There were always too There were always to Bill Parcels
Speaker 1: me in my secret twin sibling. His real name was Bobert.
Speaker 1: Bobert Parcels replaced me for my final two seasons with
Speaker 1: the Jets for a reason I can't get into right now,
Speaker 1: point being any interaction you had with me in n
Speaker 1: were actually with Bobert Parcels, my twin. I just wanted
Speaker 1: you to know that. Then the phone rings, it's Raiders GM.
Speaker 1: Reggie Mackenzie breathing heavily and sounding frazzled, sugar Bill. I'm
Speaker 1: offering you a deal Derek Carr and next year's first
Speaker 1: round pick for Tom Brady right now, yes, or no
Speaker 1: qualis to Fantasia. That would made my brain hurt. So
Speaker 1: why where does the bobber just like when you're the
Speaker 1: phone rings during another weird thing that was happening to him.
Speaker 1: That's his life. So but that okay, that's just kind
Speaker 1: of like something that happened in between. That's right, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: I am saying, no, Reggie Mackenzie, Uh, why would I
Speaker 1: want to trade Tom Brady unless the I know Derek
Speaker 1: car is great. You could set you up for the
Speaker 1: future and and everything like that. But I am not
Speaker 1: trading Tom Brady right now. Here's what I know Tom
Speaker 1: Brady can do. He can trash the greatest secondary of
Speaker 1: the twenty one century and the fourth quarter for one
Speaker 1: super Bowl win. Then he can do the greatest comeback
Speaker 1: in NFL history for another Super Bowl win. I don't
Speaker 1: know if Derek Carr can do those things on the
Speaker 1: biggest stage possible. I know Tom Brady. Not only Tom
Speaker 1: Brady can, but he's improved every year for the past
Speaker 1: four years. I'm keeping that guy you've you've changed to
Speaker 1: and that a couple of years ago you you decided
Speaker 1: to get rid of Brady for Khalil mckamary Cooper in
Speaker 1: the first round pick. I'm gonna have to go back
Speaker 1: and listen to that, but it's probably that's quite a hall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's pretty good. Um give me Derek Carr. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: is older. Mm hmm. Yeah. I think it's compelling. I mean,
Speaker 1: but I agree with West, I don't. I've been trying
Speaker 1: to trade Tom Brady in these various scenarios for like
Speaker 1: five years, and it would have been a bad move
Speaker 1: every time we've We've never done it. Calls to fontas
Speaker 1: yet that didn't involve Bill Belichick. Whatever is that he's
Speaker 1: cat dip in this game? The uh? I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: the real answer to the question is you call up
Speaker 1: people close to Bill Parcels. Uh, and you see if
Speaker 1: they know any medical professionals he can go see because
Speaker 1: he seems troubled. He seems in trouble. Bill or Bobbert,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. I'd be a little
Speaker 1: worried that Bobbert does not. I think that would say
Speaker 1: Bill is struggling. That would tell me that Bill and
Speaker 1: Bill actually their friendship is full back on right, I think.
Speaker 1: I think if you care about Bill Parcels, you try
Speaker 1: to do something and also tell me that Bobert Parcels
Speaker 1: had attend nothing lead in the third quarter of the
Speaker 1: nine Championship, but Bobert lost. He lost it. Yeah, Bill
Speaker 1: wouldn't have. Where was Bill during this? He can't explain,
Speaker 1: He won't explain. Do we does anybody else want to
Speaker 1: do one? I'll do I'll do one quickly. How about
Speaker 1: that West? You okay with deferring to Greg on this?
Speaker 1: Absolutely nobody I'd rather defer to Okay, we could do
Speaker 1: more than one. Right, it's time here we are. You
Speaker 1: are Mark Sessler. Oh, in Mark's case, you know this
Speaker 1: should be an easy role. But for the two of you,
Speaker 1: you are Mark Sess. So you you don't know that
Speaker 1: you're Mark Sessor. You have all the thoughts and dreams
Speaker 1: that Mark Sessler would, You're not aware that you used
Speaker 1: to be someone else. You're visited by an angel. That angel,
Speaker 1: strangely is Will Selivan, very similar to Will Selvan. He
Speaker 1: he gives you two options. Will Selva the Mark Sessler
Speaker 1: of a good life football. Yeah, it was a Rizally
Speaker 1: gonna be Aaron Coscarelli. Now now it's Will Selva as
Speaker 1: an angel. And he gives you two options, and he
Speaker 1: tells you once you choose, I will erase this conversation
Speaker 1: from your memory. You will not know that we had it.
Speaker 1: But I give you these two options. Number one, you
Speaker 1: can have a dream season rooting for the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: that no one sees coming, the greatest story in sports history,
Speaker 1: the least likely Super Bowl championship team ever. They escape
Speaker 1: from one in fifteen to the playoffs in a magical
Speaker 1: Super Bowl run ending in Minnesota, that you will get
Speaker 1: to cover live at the game. Do the podcast afterwards,
Speaker 1: or I will be able to double your salary. We
Speaker 1: will put around the NFL podcast on air on NFL Network.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, the Heating Light podcast now
Speaker 1: has a show on NFL network too, that will not
Speaker 1: happen quality, it's too fun. But the heat Light podcasts
Speaker 1: getting popped up. They said anything about the throwback throwback
Speaker 1: pats not involved, not involved? But you are Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: You you only have his thoughts live throwing copper this week.
Speaker 1: Check it out? Um one. Yet this is because I'm
Speaker 1: trying to put myself in Mark shoes and which one
Speaker 1: would make him happier? And I don't know the I
Speaker 1: don't either. I don't either. The tough one. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take b double the salary e t NFL on air
Speaker 1: Heating Light podcast supported by this arm of NFL media.
Speaker 1: I think that that improves marks quality of life quite
Speaker 1: a bit. Do we know anything of the ratings? Is
Speaker 1: this something where it's a sustain no guaranteed beyond that,
Speaker 1: I mean, they just get on the air. We don't
Speaker 1: know if they're from. Then you're back to being Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler and life is just back like how it would band.
Speaker 1: Our show is on the air, though too double your
Speaker 1: salary lasts more than one year. The Browns well, I
Speaker 1: mean the euphortia euphoria from the Browns could last multiple
Speaker 1: years spent working in a corporate setting, you have to
Speaker 1: understand if you double your salary, Yeah, that's great, but
Speaker 1: you're also putting a target on your back. If you
Speaker 1: don't deliver on these programming, the programs, they could cut
Speaker 1: you loose. That's I'm just I'm not saying what I
Speaker 1: believe how the heat Light television show would do or
Speaker 1: our show would do. But there's a lot of pressure.
Speaker 1: I don't think Mark would like it that much. There
Speaker 1: seems to be a lot riding on these television shows
Speaker 1: in a dying medium. I don't think that's the way
Speaker 1: to go. I think Mark, if I'm Mark, give me
Speaker 1: the dream season, give me the glory of that run
Speaker 1: and being in Minnesota when it happens, and being in
Speaker 1: the Browns locker room. You can never take it away
Speaker 1: from You could take away all that other stuff and
Speaker 1: be can never take away um hoisting the Lombardi you
Speaker 1: can never take away Jimmy has them hoisting a Lombardi
Speaker 1: trophy in the US Bank Stadium. I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I'm really baffled by this one because the second one
Speaker 1: is not just about me. It would benefit multiple other people,
Speaker 1: including my family. Like the Browns. One would also benefit
Speaker 1: thousands and millions of other people that have suffered with
Speaker 1: that team. So it's a little bit of a crazy
Speaker 1: But because no one knows that I made the decision,
Speaker 1: and you won't even know, I won't even know. I
Speaker 1: your mind willis I did not hear that the Browns
Speaker 1: will never win the super Bowl in the second equation
Speaker 1: is part of it. It's not, it's not but they won't.
Speaker 1: But they won't but we don't. But that's what I
Speaker 1: That's where I'm living now. So I like the idea.
Speaker 1: I think it just it's I like the idea of everything, uh,
Speaker 1: in work life and for our whole group and everything else.
Speaker 1: Having the chance to blow up double salary sounds good.
Speaker 1: And maybe the Browns when the super Bowl three or
Speaker 1: five hundred years from now and they all know about
Speaker 1: it from another realm. So that was kind of like
Speaker 1: a Mr Destiny one. Greg. Yeah, remember the James blush vehicle,
Speaker 1: But I did see that it's the only James Blushi
Speaker 1: vehicle worth checking out? Linda Linda Hamilton's is the Is
Speaker 1: it the only James Blushy vehicle? Period? Beluci had some
Speaker 1: vehicles they didn't run. He had that one. Uh, sitcom
Speaker 1: and James Hey Courtney Thorne Smith. Yeah, I was a
Speaker 1: big He had a couple where he was acting with
Speaker 1: like a dog was a lead character, I believe, if
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, another dog and animals. And it's tragic
Speaker 1: what happened to his brother. But hey, James, you're not
Speaker 1: the Blues Brothers. Let's stay off the stage, all right.
Speaker 1: Who saw the James Lucy James not getting that on
Speaker 1: any other NFL podcast, I think, um, okay, we gotta
Speaker 1: go um. By the way, the magic number for the
Speaker 1: Shield after back to back wins um in the past
Speaker 1: two weeks. Uh, And thank you to Tony Garcia. Shout
Speaker 1: out to a guy that doesn't listen to our podcast,
Speaker 1: uh for stepping in for the old Jousters manager and
Speaker 1: doing a great job. Magic number one. We clinched with
Speaker 1: the victory over the West Side Coyotes tonight, So let's
Speaker 1: get that. Let's get back to the dance. We'll let
Speaker 1: you know on Tuesday's show how that comes. And also
Speaker 1: Tuesday's show will be a video show just like this
Speaker 1: past Tuesday show. Www dot NFL dot com slash a
Speaker 1: t n videos our video Uh. And that's it. Let's
Speaker 1: go Home, Sully. This is Dan Hands signing off four
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Speaker 1: Sullivan Behind the Glass delth Tuesday,