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Speaker 1: stop testing yourself, I'll stop taking chances, and then all
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Speaker 1: four dollar a month pension and the way you go.
Speaker 1: Greg also spent many years as a you know, on
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Speaker 1: I think four years into your career, you're in your prime. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: we haven't hit gradual decline yet. Well, like as I know, well,
Speaker 1: you know, you cannot really judge when a gradual to
Speaker 1: its comics. In UH, today's show, it's gonna be fun
Speaker 1: one because we got here's what's coming up today. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about the latest involving Andrew Luck UH and
Speaker 1: his injury situation. Is he gonna be ready for the season,
Speaker 1: He's gonna be ready for training camp? Uh. We will
Speaker 1: also hit upon all or Nothing. I sent it out
Speaker 1: to the listeners, UH in our last show, do you
Speaker 1: want to talk about all or Nothing? And it came
Speaker 1: back in a wave at me. I shouldn't have seen
Speaker 1: this coming talk about all or nothing? So we will
Speaker 1: hit our our final takeaways on that. And I did
Speaker 1: do my homework and Binge watched it over the last
Speaker 1: two days. UH. And UH, finally our training camp Spotlight
Speaker 1: series rolls on. We're gonna take a look at the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys camp battles, which which Greg knows intimately, um,
Speaker 1: which we'll get to the reason why a little bit later.
Speaker 1: But before we do any of that, let's now say
Speaker 1: hello to the other producer behind the glass. It's a
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Speaker 1: But what's up? Guys? I actually, uh went back and
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Speaker 1: you have a you've just guaranteed it will never happen.
Speaker 1: All right, good. I didn't like it anyway, So there
Speaker 1: was no Hey Dan on that episode because I drew
Speaker 1: the short straw and had to stay down in the
Speaker 1: news room to cover the news day. That's all those
Speaker 1: early shows operated, which was a really nice system I
Speaker 1: thought by management that was put into place early on
Speaker 1: to help grow the show. But somehow we've survived. And um,
Speaker 1: let's start Sully by doing some news. My buddy boy,
Speaker 1: it's only four words. This one's poor John. Alright, So gentlemen,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to Mr. Railway in a couple of minutes,
Speaker 1: but let's start with a bit of a circus taking
Speaker 1: place down in Dallas involving a fifth string wide receiver. Mark,
Speaker 1: you've been all over this beat for NFL dot com today.
Speaker 1: I know that. Okay, continue Lucky white Head and let's
Speaker 1: start here. Lucky white Head. Who is Lucky white Head?
Speaker 1: He is a wide receiver on the Dallas Cowboys. He was,
Speaker 1: he was, That's the tensest was incorrect. Already part he
Speaker 1: was released or it is to be released. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's formally the paperwork has gone through yet.
Speaker 1: After he was it came to light that he was
Speaker 1: involved in some type of robbery situation at a convenience store.
Speaker 1: And do I have this right? Should I have read this?
Speaker 1: And then and then the yeah, I should have, And
Speaker 1: then the Cowboys said, oh well, this is it. We're
Speaker 1: done with this guy. We're cutting him. And then today
Speaker 1: comes around and it's it's revealed by the police, but
Speaker 1: they had the wrong guy. The guy said he was
Speaker 1: Lucky white white Head. He gave his date of birth,
Speaker 1: which match he gave his Social Security number even though
Speaker 1: he had no idea or identification on UH. But so
Speaker 1: they cleared Lucky white Head of chart. This is the
Speaker 1: same Lucky white Head West that had a dog that
Speaker 1: was kidnapped and held by ramp held for ransom by
Speaker 1: a rapper last week. Same guy. It seems like a
Speaker 1: high it's guy anyway, So the police clear Lucky, but
Speaker 1: the Cowboys decide they're gonna stay put with their decision,
Speaker 1: which led to a uncomfortable press conference today with Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: the coach of the Cowboys, who went the Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: We're onto Cincinnati route when asked repeatedly how the Cowboys
Speaker 1: handled this perhaps improperly, Let's listen in to the coach.
Speaker 1: Cos have made a decision yesterday that we thought was
Speaker 1: in the best interests of our team, and in evaluating
Speaker 1: the particular situation and the context of that situation, we
Speaker 1: felt like we made a decision uh in regards to
Speaker 1: Lucky that was right for our team, and we stand
Speaker 1: by that decision on a personal level as someone who's
Speaker 1: known him for a while. Are you happy that it's
Speaker 1: turned out this way that in fact was not involved
Speaker 1: in this prime I think the best thing for Lucky
Speaker 1: is to have a clean slate and he'll have a
Speaker 1: new opportunity somewhere else that's good for him. And again,
Speaker 1: it's in the best interest of our football team. Did
Speaker 1: he tell you that he didn't do it? M We
Speaker 1: had a number of conversations with Lucky regarding this, and again, uh,
Speaker 1: we made a decision that we think is in the
Speaker 1: best interest of the Dallas Cowboys. Why are some of
Speaker 1: the other players Dacy dealing with Offen? Though the issues
Speaker 1: did still on the Cowboy guys, this will be the
Speaker 1: last time I'll say it. I appreciate your interest in it.
Speaker 1: We made a decision yesterday in regards to Lucky Whitehead
Speaker 1: that we think is in the best interest of the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Were standing by that decision. We're gonna move forward.
Speaker 1: Do you have any other football questions, I'm happy to
Speaker 1: answer them. Let me just clarify that he was he
Speaker 1: was accused of shoplifting, not robbery, which brings the mind
Speaker 1: like a guy with the sought off shotgun raging into
Speaker 1: the place shoplifting some goods. Mark Uh. The Cowboys getting
Speaker 1: killed for this right now? Do you think they deserve
Speaker 1: to be well? I think the timing of it, in
Speaker 1: the way that the thing is played out is is
Speaker 1: not a good look for the Cowboys. But what I
Speaker 1: heard Jason Garrett say during the end of that press conference,
Speaker 1: someone asked, is there something else going on with this
Speaker 1: player that we don't know about? And he said, there's
Speaker 1: a lot going on with all our players that you
Speaker 1: don't know. When I think that this was whatever the
Speaker 1: incident that we've heard about, but they have such a
Speaker 1: large catalog on every one of everyone they employ that
Speaker 1: they know about, and so much is going on with
Speaker 1: these players by the scenes that will never hear about.
Speaker 1: This must have just been the final thing where they
Speaker 1: said the Lucky white Head experience in Dallas is over well,
Speaker 1: and they drafted his replacement. He had a heart. I mean,
Speaker 1: if he was a better player, he'd be on the team.
Speaker 1: That's just how the NFL works. They don't say that,
Speaker 1: but they drafted his replacement, Ryan Twitzer. He was believed
Speaker 1: to have an uphill battle just to make the team
Speaker 1: in the first place. His nine career catches an average
Speaker 1: is six point nine yards per punt return. Everybody's losing
Speaker 1: their minds over this guy because this is the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: It's a great story. It's a crazy story. It's a
Speaker 1: crazy story, and it's not a good look. But the
Speaker 1: bottom line is people who have no idea what's going
Speaker 1: on behind closed doors in Dallas are being way too
Speaker 1: cynical in this matter. Yeah, I agree, they're also, you know,
Speaker 1: is the fact Ian Rapport reported that some of his
Speaker 1: friends had his wallet or something at the time, so
Speaker 1: they had access to his social curity. Whether there was
Speaker 1: you know, I think some rumors under the radar of
Speaker 1: what was really going on with the dog rand some
Speaker 1: last week. There were some incidents last year that that
Speaker 1: they referred to. But it still looks bad because it's
Speaker 1: the first day of training camp. Literally at the time
Speaker 1: they're telling Lucky white Head that this is happening. Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones is standing at a podium with a thirty five
Speaker 1: ft tall inflatable football behind him and a forty five
Speaker 1: foot tall star and he and there's like fireworks. It's
Speaker 1: like an introductory ceremony in southern California, and he's saying,
Speaker 1: I've never been more excited about a season than this one.
Speaker 1: And at that very moment, they are bungling this release,
Speaker 1: which Jason Garrett said just hours before, we need to
Speaker 1: get all the information and you know, then make a
Speaker 1: correct decision, which they decided basically not to do a
Speaker 1: couple things. Listen, Lucky Whitehead had to say to the
Speaker 1: Dallas Morning News on Tuesday, no one had my back.
Speaker 1: I didn't even get to clear my name. I was
Speaker 1: pretty much being called a liar. So yeah, the Cowboys obviously,
Speaker 1: the move I think would have been to let this
Speaker 1: blow over, let let the dusk clear a little bit,
Speaker 1: see where we are in a few days. If he's saying,
Speaker 1: if you're either not giving him the opportunity to explain
Speaker 1: to his side of the story or you're not believing him,
Speaker 1: then the cops exonerate him after. It's just a bad
Speaker 1: look for the Cowboys. They were too quick to jump
Speaker 1: on this despite what might be going on beyond the
Speaker 1: scenes with Lucky Whitehead, who maybe a pain in the acid,
Speaker 1: we don't know. But the other thing I just want
Speaker 1: to say, like and I don't know, I feel like
Speaker 1: the whole story is not out yet, and it will
Speaker 1: come out, But does it not pass the smell test
Speaker 1: for anyone else? That whoever this person was, that was
Speaker 1: by the way on the loose, which is kind of
Speaker 1: a fun wrinkle to this too. I guess he posted
Speaker 1: bail or something. He's just not nobody knows who he
Speaker 1: is because he gave the wrong identity, but he knew
Speaker 1: Lucky whitehead social security number. Is there some type of
Speaker 1: dot to connect it was something close to him? What's
Speaker 1: your what's your wife's social Security number? What's your mom
Speaker 1: social what's your social Security number? That doesn't You're right,
Speaker 1: that doesn't pass the smell test? And whatever is going
Speaker 1: on with Lucky whitehad I think it's reasonable that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have decided he's more trouble than he's worth. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean that we've kind of glassed over the whole
Speaker 1: dog ransome thing that's going on there. There's a lot
Speaker 1: to be wondering about. I'm a little concerned is that
Speaker 1: our meet up in San Francisco before Super Bowl fifty.
Speaker 1: As a sign off to one of our podcast listeners
Speaker 1: on a football I wrote in Permanent Marker, my social
Speaker 1: security numbers. Who a girl and she fled away with it?
Speaker 1: Who knows what's what's next? Yeah? One of this, one
Speaker 1: of this, one of the stranger decisions, Uh, caused by
Speaker 1: alcohol in your life? Kind of unprecedented. I don't know
Speaker 1: about that kind of unprecedented. Um, all right. In other
Speaker 1: Cowboys news, Lyle Collins is getting paid. The Cowboys offensive
Speaker 1: lineman agreed to a two year contract extension on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: worth fifteen point four million. According to Mike Aarafolo. Uh,
Speaker 1: Collins is twenty three. Uh. He basically now makes back
Speaker 1: his lost salary from back in when he was supposed
Speaker 1: to be a first round pick and then uh some
Speaker 1: issues about a crime that had taken place that he
Speaker 1: had been connected to but never charged or ever really
Speaker 1: in a serious way connected to it. Once the dust
Speaker 1: cleared in that situation. Uh, and uh, now he basically
Speaker 1: makes that money back. After pulling himself out of the draft,
Speaker 1: West Collins has really been everything they hoped he would be,
Speaker 1: and now he's getting paid. So you gotta be happy
Speaker 1: for him a little bit. Well, he's been injured, he
Speaker 1: missed a good chunk of last year. They expect him
Speaker 1: to be their right tackle. But this is about him
Speaker 1: not getting drafted, which meant he was due to hit
Speaker 1: the open market one year ahead of everyone else who
Speaker 1: got drafted in that same class, and that was the
Speaker 1: advantage of going undrafted. That's why he told teams, don't
Speaker 1: draft me. One of the great agent moves I believe
Speaker 1: of the last decade. They bluffed the entire league into
Speaker 1: not drafting him. They even admitted after the fact they said,
Speaker 1: we had no recourse. They weren't going to be able
Speaker 1: to wait until the next draft. Anyone could have had him,
Speaker 1: and they basically threatened the league don't draft him or
Speaker 1: else you know, we're not gonna show up. They they
Speaker 1: would have had to show up, and it ended up
Speaker 1: working out great. You got to choose the Cowboys and
Speaker 1: now he's making some cash. It was a very serious situation.
Speaker 1: But if you remember now his name was connected to
Speaker 1: the murder of a twenty nine year old pregnant woman
Speaker 1: in Louisiana, uh and which he had no connection to. Again,
Speaker 1: it was just it ended up being someone he had
Speaker 1: had a relationship with. It was crazy bad timing because
Speaker 1: it happened three days before the draft. It was any
Speaker 1: other timing, they'll be fine. It seems like either every
Speaker 1: year or every other year, there's one player that's supposed
Speaker 1: to be a first round pick and something crazy, bonkers happens.
Speaker 1: But the one to punch this one then the next
Speaker 1: year with the gas mask bong Uh to Laramie Tunsel.
Speaker 1: That's that's quite a one too punch. I'll be hard
Speaker 1: to defeat. I would sooner anyway, moving on, Yes, John Elway,
Speaker 1: you heard the man Bolan. It's only four words this one.
Speaker 1: Poor John John Elway is the Broncos, let's face it.
Speaker 1: And after leading the Broncos to two UH super Bowl
Speaker 1: championships and a few more AFC Conference titles in his career,
Speaker 1: he took over as the team's general manager and immediately
Speaker 1: found a lot of success, including Super Bowl win UH
Speaker 1: last year. Now the two sides have a reach agreement
Speaker 1: on a new five year deal that keeps l l
Speaker 1: A in Denver through the season. The team and outs
Speaker 1: on Monday. UH. Is this the ultimate no brainer for
Speaker 1: ownership to make with a front office figure? Was absolutely?
Speaker 1: Who's been better than him? How can you do better
Speaker 1: than what? Four straight division titles, two Super Bowl appearances?
Speaker 1: UH signed the greatest free agent in NFL history and
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning with a pure stroke of brilliance. At the
Speaker 1: same time he signs Peyton Manning, he gets rid of
Speaker 1: Team Tebow, who's coming off a playoff victory, and everybody
Speaker 1: in Denver loves him and everything he's done since then.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can blame him for not fixing the
Speaker 1: offensive line last year, but he at least tried to.
Speaker 1: I think he's been one of the two or three
Speaker 1: best general managers in the NFL. You get waxed in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, and you make an aggressive move to
Speaker 1: change your the toughness of your team and defense immediately,
Speaker 1: and you get immediate results. I I don't. I think
Speaker 1: the worst hot takes I've ever had in my life
Speaker 1: writing about football where like a couple of months back
Speaker 1: in two thousand nine, I think when they were about
Speaker 1: to hire him, when I was working for Pro Football
Speaker 1: talking and we were all on the corner of like
Speaker 1: what has John Elway done to really deserve like running
Speaker 1: a general manager? Like didn't dude do that well with
Speaker 1: those card dealerships? And like the cardinal doesn't doesn't doesn't
Speaker 1: hold up well because other players have come in and
Speaker 1: tried to do that themselves and especially quarterbacks think they
Speaker 1: can do that and they have the name to go
Speaker 1: with it. Always someone that has put in the work
Speaker 1: and he completely transformed that team. How do you outshine
Speaker 1: the playing career he had, He's done that as an
Speaker 1: executive Adam Shine is actually copyrighted any references, So I'm
Speaker 1: not allowed to use that word out. It's out. Check
Speaker 1: it out? Um? What by the way West and his
Speaker 1: banger right up on this? Uh? Some stats just about
Speaker 1: Elway in his time with the team, sixty seven and
Speaker 1: twenty nine Denver, two super Bowl appearances. Yeah, they got
Speaker 1: waxed one year, but then beat a seventeen and one team?
Speaker 1: Uh was it the next year? Was the following season?
Speaker 1: Or two two years two years later? Uh? Five division
Speaker 1: titles a six winning percentage. So that's how you get paid.
Speaker 1: In twenty two seasons with the Broncos, I tweeted this
Speaker 1: out yesterday, he has twelve division championships and seven Super
Speaker 1: Bowl appearances. That has a quarterback in his executive In
Speaker 1: thirty five years without John Elway, the Broncos had three
Speaker 1: division titles and one super Bowl appearance. He's meant more
Speaker 1: to that organization than just about anybody's meant to any
Speaker 1: NFL organization. Stared him in the eyes after they won
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl, told told him you loved him. Well,
Speaker 1: it's I have a complex relationship with John Elway because
Speaker 1: as a Browns fan, he kind of ruined my childhood.
Speaker 1: But then I t I really grew to respect him
Speaker 1: when he finally won that Super Bowl because that a
Speaker 1: f C conference couldn't win a Super Bowl for so long,
Speaker 1: he was the one that did it. I mean, he
Speaker 1: was a fascinating player. For it to be a relationship
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be on both Because I we had
Speaker 1: a weird look. I would say he was essentially just
Speaker 1: looking right through me and saying, where's the doorway? How
Speaker 1: do I get out of this situation? That's such a
Speaker 1: weird look, kind of like one you would expect on
Speaker 1: some level. But that's I will say. It's pretty big
Speaker 1: of you that he destroyed the city of Cleveland in
Speaker 1: the eighties and late eighties or whatever, and you now
Speaker 1: have grown to to look deep in the man's eyes
Speaker 1: and hope for shared icon. I have no choice. It's
Speaker 1: been my entire lightment. This guy refuses to go away.
Speaker 1: You've got to just sign up and get on board. Uh.
Speaker 1: In other news, Andrew Luck, Uh, West, you did what's
Speaker 1: more likely? In our last show? Will he appear in
Speaker 1: three preseason games? I don't know. We'll see, but probably not.
Speaker 1: Because general manager Chris Ballard announced Monday that Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: will be placed on the physical Physically unable to perform list,
Speaker 1: that is the PUP. The roster move became official on
Speaker 1: Tuesday morning. Uh. Luck has started a throwing program after
Speaker 1: that shoulder surgery. Uh. He's still expected to be healthy
Speaker 1: in time for the regular season. Uh. Chris Ballard, who
Speaker 1: you know, He's a man that's known to say things,
Speaker 1: what's your favorite type of frog? And he had this
Speaker 1: to say as well, We're exactly where I thought we'd
Speaker 1: be at this time. He told the Herald Bulletin Greg
Speaker 1: Rosenthal week one, ed Luck on the field. I know
Speaker 1: you have note well maybe you have sources who knows
Speaker 1: what great far, but we'll be ready. These phony sources,
Speaker 1: UH tell me he should be playing week one. I
Speaker 1: think if you if you listen to Chris Ballard, he
Speaker 1: essentially said he expected Andrew Luck to be ready for
Speaker 1: Week one. Reading between the lines, I think I wouldn't
Speaker 1: necessarily expect him to play in the preseason at all.
Speaker 1: They didn't sound like that would be a priority at most.
Speaker 1: He it sounds like he would play one game, and
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be surprising if first time we see him
Speaker 1: as weak one. But the fact that he's thrown again,
Speaker 1: I think if you're a Colts fan, this was a
Speaker 1: positive press conference thought, and I don't think the timeline
Speaker 1: is something to be overly concerned about. They said that
Speaker 1: he's at where they thought he would be all long,
Speaker 1: and you know, borrowing some sort of setback way. Moving
Speaker 1: on Robert Griffin, the third he shows up, he's on
Speaker 1: the radar. R G three, Uh is going to have
Speaker 1: a workout for the Los Angeles Chargers. Rap sheet reported
Speaker 1: on Tuesday. UM r G three was cut by Cleveland
Speaker 1: in March. Of course, he started out with Washington. Uh,
Speaker 1: we hadn't heard his name at all, so it was
Speaker 1: a bit of a surprise that he popped up now.
Speaker 1: But Uh, there are people still maybe in the league
Speaker 1: that remember two thousand twelve when he was the offensive
Speaker 1: rookie of the year, and UM, we'll see what happens Mark,
Speaker 1: you know from uh your Brown Brown's fandom. How how
Speaker 1: he looked last year. Um in his last four games,
Speaker 1: he missed a lot of a time. Of course, with
Speaker 1: I believe a shoulder injury wasn't last year, always an
Speaker 1: injury with him, but his numbers weren't good at all.
Speaker 1: But did you see anything that says that he would
Speaker 1: be somebody that should be a quarterback even a backup?
Speaker 1: On the Chargers? They have Kellen Clemens, Mark, Mike Burke,
Speaker 1: Arizona State and Eli thank you and Eli Jenkins? Uh
Speaker 1: see anything? Can he beat that one of those guys,
Speaker 1: maybe more so than Eli Jenkins. But his starting days
Speaker 1: are done. And it concerns me when we're getting tweets
Speaker 1: from me and Rappaport, who spoke with Pep Hamilton's who
Speaker 1: says the ball is flying out of r G three
Speaker 1: and this is what we went through last offseason with
Speaker 1: r G three And my my was Hugh Jackson's quota
Speaker 1: Earth moved under his feet exactly. I mean, talk about hyperbole.
Speaker 1: And with the quarterback position begins and ends with durability,
Speaker 1: and he's simply unreliable from that from that standpoint, So
Speaker 1: you want him, you want him for one or two
Speaker 1: games as a backup? Maybe fine. I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with that, but nothing beyond that. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think Kellen Clemens is any great shakes. Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. When's last time Philip Rivers missed the game? Ever?
Speaker 1: Actually stop jinx Alright, I'm us saying, uh, maybe they're
Speaker 1: counting on that a little too much. Clemens and in
Speaker 1: BERKOVICI forget that. Berci looked really good in the preseason
Speaker 1: last year West West of the surprise Berkovichi he did.
Speaker 1: I was like, this guy looks pretty good. He's also
Speaker 1: like one of those guys that if you if he
Speaker 1: walks up to a jukebox and just hits it with
Speaker 1: his fist, right brothers, come on, uh yeah, so we'll
Speaker 1: see what happens there. It's you know, he remains kind
Speaker 1: of a fascinating figure on some level. Not gonna help
Speaker 1: their case of being the team around the NFL. RG
Speaker 1: three's on it. Let's just beat yeah right now. Well,
Speaker 1: the other link that that Rappaport mentioned was that Anthony Lynne,
Speaker 1: the Chargers coach, worked with Tyrod Taylor in the past,
Speaker 1: and in theory there's similarities between the two. I just
Speaker 1: you know, come on with r G three, Like, I
Speaker 1: just this is not the player. It's so easy to
Speaker 1: try to link the current player to who he was
Speaker 1: when he was at his heights as a rookie before
Speaker 1: for a terrible knee and dream. Wait, so you're telling
Speaker 1: me RG three gets worked out before count Kaepernick. Well,
Speaker 1: I didn't tell you that. Everyone else is telling you.
Speaker 1: That's a true that's an offseason troupes insert crappy quarterback
Speaker 1: in r G three spot there. Don't even get me started.
Speaker 1: When when it comes to Kellen Clemons, you know Kaepernick
Speaker 1: fans might have a might have a point. It's like,
Speaker 1: what is kind Kellen Clemens done to stay in the
Speaker 1: league at this level for so long? He must be
Speaker 1: a nice guy. I think he never looked great when
Speaker 1: he was out there. I honestly think just being a
Speaker 1: cool guy and studying the playbook will keep you in
Speaker 1: the league as a quarterback. Part of the worst game
Speaker 1: I've ever seen as an NFL fan, Brodie Coyle versus
Speaker 1: Kellen Clemens Jets Chiefs pretty bad. Yeah, it's pretty bad.
Speaker 1: Speaking of nice guys, Uh, Darrell Freeman. You know Drell Freeman.
Speaker 1: He's the Bears linebacker. He was This an interesting story
Speaker 1: fells and I wrote about it at the end around
Speaker 1: check it out. Darrell Freeman was in Texas. He's from Texas,
Speaker 1: and he was hopping a plane uh to Chicago to
Speaker 1: start Bears Camp. He's at the Austin Airport food court,
Speaker 1: which is one of my favorite food courts in the country.
Speaker 1: I go to Austin every year because my wife is
Speaker 1: from that area and they have a lot of great
Speaker 1: barbecue and brisket and things of that nature. Anyway, he
Speaker 1: got a brisket sandwich at the Salt Lick Taco Bar,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's taking it down. He's putting it down,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, a guy next to him,
Speaker 1: he stands up in a panic. Uh. He's choking on
Speaker 1: his brisket sandwich, literally choking to death, potentially standing up
Speaker 1: in a panic looking around for help. An old lady
Speaker 1: rolls over to this guy and attempts to do the
Speaker 1: Heimlich maneuver. She's not strong enough. Luckily, there's an NFL
Speaker 1: linebacker at the table next to him. Bang Bang, an
Speaker 1: NFL linebacker whose mother is a nurse, so he has
Speaker 1: a vague knowledge of the Heimlich Bang Bang. The dude's
Speaker 1: brisket comes pouring out of his mouth. Uh So, Drell
Speaker 1: Freeman saves this man at the food court at the
Speaker 1: Austin Airport. A couple of things that I really love
Speaker 1: about the story, but the one that's my favorite, and
Speaker 1: it really speaks to the guy that he saved as
Speaker 1: just being a hero that we should have on the show.
Speaker 1: Guy went back to his spot after it all comes down,
Speaker 1: he took a picture if you're watching the video show
Speaker 1: and was tweeted out, Um, he finished his brisket sandwich.
Speaker 1: How about that? That's some good brisket. Wait, the man
Speaker 1: who's the man who went through this this he went
Speaker 1: back and ate the rest of this after he had
Speaker 1: his life saved. I'm sure there's a huge commotion. He
Speaker 1: took a picture with Darrell, who then tweeted, sat back
Speaker 1: down at the table, and went back to town on
Speaker 1: his brisket. That restaurants had used that in advertising that
Speaker 1: Franklin's Barbecue. It was the Salt Lick Taco Bar. So
Speaker 1: there you go one. It's one of the best stories
Speaker 1: of the off season. I think it truly was heroic.
Speaker 1: If you like, I always get get worried because I
Speaker 1: don't know the Hemlich maneuver, like I kind of vaguely
Speaker 1: know it from watching the people do it, but like
Speaker 1: I should have at this point in life. You should
Speaker 1: know how to save someone's life in that situation. But
Speaker 1: he tweets out, Hey, I just saved someone's life. I
Speaker 1: meant someone else. Maybe that's not even the brad, but
Speaker 1: I'll give it to I'll give it to him in
Speaker 1: this case, though it was a great story. If he
Speaker 1: doesn't tweet that out, uh, we might never get the
Speaker 1: story on it. And I believe that's the story that
Speaker 1: deserves to be told. I think you get a free
Speaker 1: brag if you save a person's life. Any of you
Speaker 1: guys choked, even momentarily, so we all have. It's probably
Speaker 1: the worst feeling in the world. There's that panic and
Speaker 1: you don't know whether to cause a commotion to get help,
Speaker 1: but then you know you're in trouble. It is. I
Speaker 1: had one incident that was really bad. It was at
Speaker 1: a the my grandfather Rest in Peace. It was doing
Speaker 1: like a it was like an Elk's golf tournament. And
Speaker 1: I went with my dad and we did the golf
Speaker 1: tournament and then there was a banquet afterwards, and I
Speaker 1: think I was chowing down on prime rib and I
Speaker 1: got a little uh, you know, ozy, over zealous, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden I got something stuck in my windpipe.
Speaker 1: It felt like and I was like, what am I
Speaker 1: gonna do here? And then your eyes get all panicked
Speaker 1: and then luckily it went down right as I was
Speaker 1: standing up in the middle of this banquet hall. It's like, Jesus,
Speaker 1: thank God, body, good work. What a tale from the
Speaker 1: Elks Lodge. I wasn't expecting to go to the Elks
Speaker 1: Lodge today. From the Elks Lodge. My ex girlfriend reminded
Speaker 1: me of this in my most recent trip to Tybee
Speaker 1: that we went out to dinner with my family. Once
Speaker 1: I was eating French onion soup with the cheese on top. No,
Speaker 1: I got the cheese stuck and I started pulling it
Speaker 1: out of my mouth like a clown with a with
Speaker 1: a multicolored tissue. Not just pulling cheese out of my mouth,
Speaker 1: like choking to death. That's a silent killer. In um, Greg,
Speaker 1: you were born h thirty two, so maybe you didn't
Speaker 1: have any childhood incidents. But how about near Adulton. I
Speaker 1: can't remember any choking incidents. I don't know, Mark Oh Yeah,
Speaker 1: the moment that you described, I can't. It wasn't at
Speaker 1: the Elks Lodge or anything, but I've been through the similar,
Speaker 1: you know, terrifying couple of seconds. Um, okay, and moving
Speaker 1: on wrapping up the news or Josh Cribs, a longtime
Speaker 1: Browns receiver. Um. He was on NF Good Morning Football
Speaker 1: Today and uh. He was asked by Kyle Brant, one
Speaker 1: of the hosts of that program program Great Program, about
Speaker 1: his thoughts on the l A Chargers being ahead of
Speaker 1: the Ram, ahead of the Browns and the old Justers
Speaker 1: Pain rankings. Let's let's check it out. Let's get to this.
Speaker 1: NFL dot coms Dan Hands as friend of the show.
Speaker 1: He released the twenty seventeen fan based pain rankings. He
Speaker 1: has the Browns sitting at number two. They're telling me
Speaker 1: in my ear that they've changed. The number one now
Speaker 1: is Josh Cribs during the third singing and wheels on
Speaker 1: the bus. That's number one. But how do you feel
Speaker 1: about the Cleveland Browns showing up in the two spot? Oh,
Speaker 1: that's awful, that's awful. The Cleveland brown should be number one.
Speaker 1: But we suffered the most and that's why we have
Speaker 1: the greatest fan base, not because of the winning, but
Speaker 1: because the fans stick around. They don't never have blackouts
Speaker 1: for our games. They stick around rain or shine, snow,
Speaker 1: and it's a lot of snow and Cleveland. The fans
Speaker 1: come and we don't win. Um, that's fair point. I
Speaker 1: thought that. He answered that was a fair way to
Speaker 1: come back dead on analysis is how I would describe it.
Speaker 1: It was good and and Schraeger came back at me
Speaker 1: on Twitter and he was coming after me a little
Speaker 1: bit about it, saying I've been too affected by the
Speaker 1: sun kissed uh weather out here. Basic soft yeah, to
Speaker 1: which I said, now I am. Now I can say
Speaker 1: that I have been accused of both East coast and
Speaker 1: West coast bias. Here I come Middle America. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get you. Um. And then I thought, you know who
Speaker 1: did a really nice job Will Brinson reading the tea leaves.
Speaker 1: He came into the conversation and said, let's just, you know,
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys, maybe we should let the dust settle
Speaker 1: and a couple of years we'll see if the Chargers
Speaker 1: are still at number one. I felt like this year
Speaker 1: it was a good spot for him. If the Bret
Speaker 1: let me tell you something the Browns continue to suck
Speaker 1: for another couple of years. When I revisit this, they're
Speaker 1: probably gonna take that one spot back. It's tough to
Speaker 1: be in the number one spot, go out and go
Speaker 1: one in fifteen and the worst season in the organized
Speaker 1: organization's history and somehow have a less painful reflection in
Speaker 1: your college. Well, so I appreciate what Josh Cribs had
Speaker 1: to say. Yeah, I I did. It wasn't about the Browns.
Speaker 1: But if Straeger is gonna come on Twitter and start
Speaker 1: taking shots, you know, make sure you're not in the
Speaker 1: glass house. You know. When they showed that that board
Speaker 1: up on the screen that Josh Cribbs is looking at
Speaker 1: the ranking says Los Angeles Charger. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it was the San Diego Chargers who are the most
Speaker 1: We get the argument, how did Diego? How do you
Speaker 1: spawn Dan to the allegations? And that's exactly what they
Speaker 1: are with that. This switch, last minute switched to put
Speaker 1: the Chargers on top, was the result of Adam Ranks
Speaker 1: philibustering in the newsroom. Whoa uh you know what I don't.
Speaker 1: I can honestly tell you that that was not behind
Speaker 1: it at all. It was more little lobbying was burning
Speaker 1: that midnight oil, putting the working, putting the work, doing work,
Speaker 1: and that's what you gotta do. Mark, you were here
Speaker 1: last week to find out that that Dan worked very
Speaker 1: hard late into the night. I don't doubt that he did.
Speaker 1: I don't doubt if if you missed it, it was
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes right in the middle of our program. We
Speaker 1: spoke about it for about fifty It was past midnight
Speaker 1: as I and I came to you came to this
Speaker 1: kind of revelation that the Chargers deserve that spot. Um,
Speaker 1: what were we saying, was nothing good ever happens past
Speaker 1: mid Yeah, I don't know. We'll see anyway enough of that.
Speaker 1: By the way, people of Detroit feel free to chime
Speaker 1: in on this. Yeah, I think you know this is this.
Speaker 1: I feel like just you put it in a shaker
Speaker 1: and just roll out and got some results. If I,
Speaker 1: if I was I was lobbying, and I used the
Speaker 1: lobby for the Chargers to higher, I would say the
Speaker 1: Bengals are the team that you are really a little
Speaker 1: too low there at number eight. But you can't put
Speaker 1: nine teams at once, so it's a tough. Yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: make my list, they'd be in the top four. Me too,
Speaker 1: I would think that was well. Listen, you guys are
Speaker 1: free to create your own lists. And uh, that's when
Speaker 1: I tell people all the time. Yeah, and ahead, we'll
Speaker 1: have to create your own little list, send it out
Speaker 1: through Twitter and then Mark, speaking of the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: You wanted to touch on something, didn't you, Well, I
Speaker 1: do the the you know, we we track Rhodo World
Speaker 1: every day and they give you a lot of great
Speaker 1: camp updates about players that you know behind the scenes
Speaker 1: are starting to bubble up and become prospects. Evan Silva's
Speaker 1: time of year, that is exactly right. And the buzz,
Speaker 1: the buzz in my take, I've been doing my monitoring.
Speaker 1: You probably think I've just been checked out. I read
Speaker 1: every day midnight oil stuff. The buzz on second year
Speaker 1: Brown's tight end seth DeValve out of Princeton is building
Speaker 1: to a fever pitch. Is this is this an edition
Speaker 1: of pressure valve. It's pressure valve. That's pressure segment. We're
Speaker 1: calling the segment pressure valve. Let's there's pressure valve. Let's
Speaker 1: just go through some of these blurbs that have appeared
Speaker 1: on Evan Silva's Rhodo World. June tenth, Brown's coach Hugh
Speaker 1: Jackson calls tight end Seth DeValve an emerging player. June,
Speaker 1: The Akron Beacon Journal says it's not far fetched to
Speaker 1: believe that second year tight end Seth DeValve could be
Speaker 1: the Brown's most improved player. In July twelve, The Plane
Speaker 1: Dealers Mary kay Cabot says second year tight end Seth
Speaker 1: DeValve jumped out at Brown's ot as in minicamp. July twenty,
Speaker 1: The Brown's official website expects second year tight end Seth
Speaker 1: DeValve to have, in quotes, a significant role this season.
Speaker 1: July Patsy Kettles of Patsy Kettle's football dot net that
Speaker 1: reports that Brown's tight end Seth DeValve saved a school
Speaker 1: bus full of children by single handedly lifting the vehicle
Speaker 1: off the side of a cliff in Barrie, Ohio. Wanting
Speaker 1: no credit for his heroic act, DeValve fled the scene
Speaker 1: using nearly superhuman speed, per Kettles. July twenty. July Evan
Speaker 1: Silva of Rhoda World notes that he received an anonymous
Speaker 1: phone call from a Langley, Virginia area code warning him
Speaker 1: not to spill the beans on the true nature of
Speaker 1: Seth Devalve's mission on Earth. July, just a day ago,
Speaker 1: officials from the Pro Football Hall of Fame and Can'ton
Speaker 1: Ohio reports seeing a Seth DeValve shaped object soaring in
Speaker 1: the skies over the Hall of Fame. July, Evan Silva
Speaker 1: of Rhoda World receives a second call from Langley. A
Speaker 1: man on the other end tells him it's time for
Speaker 1: the world to know the truth. Seth DeValve didn't attend Princeton.
Speaker 1: He was created at Princeton by secret scientists, scientists working
Speaker 1: closely with Cleveland's forward thinking front office. Silva, it's up
Speaker 1: to you to connect the dots. Seacrest out. Wow, and
Speaker 1: that was the latest edition of Pressure Valve. Now, how
Speaker 1: do you expect me to put the Browns the number
Speaker 1: one of the pain ranks when he got devolved in
Speaker 1: the building. Listen, that's a fair points literally is your
Speaker 1: that is your fairest rebuttal to the Pain ranking. You
Speaker 1: have literally Superman on your rosta. Yeah, you're in a
Speaker 1: good position. I think I think so should probably make
Speaker 1: him the quarterback if you think can happen he's an
Speaker 1: emerging player according to team sources. There you could put
Speaker 1: him at safety, then he'd be a safety valve. Pretty
Speaker 1: nice there, just a hint of skepticism on your end
Speaker 1: that seth the valve will be the starting tight end
Speaker 1: and a game changer for the Cleveland not even in
Speaker 1: the least. If you're watching the video version of this show,
Speaker 1: you saw that he had two highlights last year, and
Speaker 1: we've replayed them over in is he moving mountains underfeet
Speaker 1: or whatever Hugh Jackson said about r G three last year.
Speaker 1: I think this time Hugh knows that people are gonna
Speaker 1: see with their own eyes. He doesn't need to keep
Speaker 1: the hot you know, the hot quotes coming. All right,
Speaker 1: it's time now to move on to the Training Camp
Speaker 1: Spotlight presented by New Era and today's Training Camp spot White.
Speaker 1: We've done it every week for the past three weeks.
Speaker 1: Now we're going to focus on the Dallas Cowboys and
Speaker 1: and specifically how many roster spots are wide wide open
Speaker 1: and how many jobs, I should say, and you know,
Speaker 1: starting jobs, good work, I should say, are is out
Speaker 1: there for the team? And Greg, you are a good
Speaker 1: person to talk to on this because they they sent
Speaker 1: you NFL Network sent you to Oxnard to cover this thing.
Speaker 1: Wing in at sixty six pounds. He hails from Martha's Vineyard.
Speaker 1: He is NFL Networks Rosen Tal so many untruth there
Speaker 1: s six is over it by about thirty pounds there.
Speaker 1: I'd be in trouble if I'm one sixty six on
Speaker 1: this frame. Give me a break. And uh, never once
Speaker 1: lifted Martha's Vineyard a husky one s six. It would
Speaker 1: be for Greg, not not husky, but Greg did. Uh.
Speaker 1: He covered the cowboys scene yesterday and he was even
Speaker 1: on NFL Network. What a day for Greg. Mike Garafolo
Speaker 1: just tweeted rosen Fall. But you went to him for
Speaker 1: permission today to wear shorts. Ah, well, it wasn't so
Speaker 1: much permission, it was just the general customs. They usually
Speaker 1: don't put writers that look like me out live, you know,
Speaker 1: in the fields. I was just making sure shorts are accepted.
Speaker 1: Were with two I am? I I hope they don't
Speaker 1: pan down because there might be some stains from lunch.
Speaker 1: But yes, I'm wearing shorts, all right. He's not an
Speaker 1: ink stained retch. He's a lunch and wretch. Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: We say that, of course, with love and kindness. We're
Speaker 1: in shorts. We can't show you because it's a family
Speaker 1: program here and you don't want to see it either
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, this is what I'm talking about, Greg,
Speaker 1: This is exactly what I'm talking and I'm on team
Speaker 1: Greg here. They send him out there, NFL Network, they
Speaker 1: put him on TV. But what happens They send him
Speaker 1: back to his little box when it comes down to it,
Speaker 1: try to belittle you. I get brought dot com, Greg Rosenthal,
Speaker 1: dot com, dot com dot com. They want to keep
Speaker 1: you in that box. I know you. You feel like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I finally done it. My kids, My kids are
Speaker 1: watching at home. I found out later. You know, they
Speaker 1: have it on this I didn't even know they had
Speaker 1: on this big screen. It's like a large, scary almost image.
Speaker 1: And you think, finally a little respect and then someone
Speaker 1: and there in that one like and then someone like
Speaker 1: Gara Folo just broadsides you. Come on. They treated you
Speaker 1: like one of the guys, like you're in the locker
Speaker 1: room and they're playing pranks. So you and I thought
Speaker 1: you really showed that you could think on the fly
Speaker 1: and improvise. Yeah, you did a nice job with it
Speaker 1: and West. I'd love to take take that that standpoint
Speaker 1: that it was it was boys club banter. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just so saw the look in in in Mike's eyes,
Speaker 1: the way Andrew just leaned into the whole things down,
Speaker 1: that you would attempt to stir the pot between Greg
Speaker 1: and other various in building powers. That's so against your name.
Speaker 1: It added a little levity. I was glad. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's that for it. And thanks to the Twitter user
Speaker 1: that let us know that, yes, Greg, Greg did wear
Speaker 1: shorts as you can see. Oh yeah, Robert, he was
Speaker 1: a big fan of the show. I talked to talk
Speaker 1: to him. He was big time listener. He had a
Speaker 1: couple of listeners out there excited. Bobby Pedalino. Hey, Bobby Pedalino.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk football now, So Greg that I mean,
Speaker 1: do you need any more proof that Greg was boots
Speaker 1: on the ground or I should say black Adidas on
Speaker 1: the ground. Let's start with the Dallas cornerbacks. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of open jobs here. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think it's I don't know if it's slipped under the
Speaker 1: radar with all the off field problems they've had because
Speaker 1: they've had two arrests. They had the suspension for for
Speaker 1: David Irving, you have Ezekiel Elliott. But to me, the
Speaker 1: bigger issue if you compare the Cowboys to the other
Speaker 1: teams that had buys last year, the Steelers, the Falcons,
Speaker 1: and the Patriots, the Cowboys have way more questions. They
Speaker 1: lost over six thousand snaps from their secondary from the
Speaker 1: last last two years combined, six thousand snaps from four
Speaker 1: key players, and at cornerback especially, you've got Orlando Scandrick,
Speaker 1: who they're excited as a little healthier this year. He's
Speaker 1: their number one quarterback. Number two by far as Nolan Carroll,
Speaker 1: a guy who really struggled in Philadelphia, And for veterans,
Speaker 1: that's it. When I I asked Jason Garrett about it
Speaker 1: after the press comments, because he kind of gave a
Speaker 1: non answer in the press conners, and he mentioned those
Speaker 1: two players, and then he paused for about four seconds
Speaker 1: and then he and then he just was like on
Speaker 1: who else? He literally said, and who else? And then
Speaker 1: he went on to Anthony Brown. And they have a
Speaker 1: couple of rookies and maybe those guys will step up.
Speaker 1: But if Nolan Carroll is by far your number two cornerback.
Speaker 1: That that's trouble my one. But if there's one positive
Speaker 1: in Dallas and that there have been past seasons where
Speaker 1: we thought the Dallas defense was going to be a
Speaker 1: calamity and they outplayed people's expectations. Rod Miranelli is one
Speaker 1: of the most underrated defensive coordinators in the league. He
Speaker 1: his players love him and that he finds a way
Speaker 1: to make this stuff work sometimes. So that's that's your hope.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, when are we gonna learn? We
Speaker 1: do this every August we say that Cowboys just don't
Speaker 1: have the defense to compete, and then the whole, the
Speaker 1: whole competitive competitiveness rests on their offense and controlling the ball,
Speaker 1: and then they hide their defense. Yep, that's fair. On
Speaker 1: the flip side, there is now you could say, listen
Speaker 1: to the Lucky white Head thing. It's just one of
Speaker 1: those silly summer stories that gets overblown. But you got
Speaker 1: the Zeke Elliott stuff and you have, you know, a
Speaker 1: roster that's maybe not a settle as other people think.
Speaker 1: This idea that the Cowboys are going to waltz back
Speaker 1: to twelve wins. There are challenges here that they're going
Speaker 1: to have to figure things out. It's not all laid
Speaker 1: out like some other contenders out there right now. No,
Speaker 1: Marinelli was very positive about the group and saying, you know,
Speaker 1: he loves competition and all that, and his system is
Speaker 1: really simplified. It's not as complex as some others, and
Speaker 1: they really count on effort and all that. That said,
Speaker 1: when you're when you're best pass rushers are Tyrone Crawford
Speaker 1: and a rookie, and you know tackle Charlton and you
Speaker 1: know DeMarcus Lawrence, who had one sack last year, there's
Speaker 1: just not a lot of juice there. I don't care
Speaker 1: how good a coach he is. Jalen Smith. Jalen Smith,
Speaker 1: that linebacker could be a big factor. He's moving around
Speaker 1: pretty They almost need him to somehow recover from drop
Speaker 1: foot and become an impact player potentially this year. A
Speaker 1: lot of things have to break right on that defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think. I think, Yes, the offense is made up
Speaker 1: for it in two of the last three years West,
Speaker 1: but those are like the greatest offense is possible, and
Speaker 1: you shouldn't need to count on an offense to be
Speaker 1: that good. And in the end last year their defense
Speaker 1: got them beat. I mean that offense was ready to
Speaker 1: compete for a Super Bowl and the defense couldn't couldn't
Speaker 1: do it against Creed. Yeah, I don't think they have
Speaker 1: a championship caliber defense. But this is not the worst
Speaker 1: defense they've had that we've that we've doubted. I mean,
Speaker 1: Mark had fifty adjective to describe their defense, right and
Speaker 1: which which which? Within weeks I was completely you know,
Speaker 1: proven to be a complete phony on that topic. That
Speaker 1: they were fine. Yeah, they were fine. I think the corner.
Speaker 1: I think the secondary is worse than than it's been.
Speaker 1: I mean, you lost, you lost Claiborne, you lost Barry Church,
Speaker 1: you lost guys who have been there. What if Byron
Speaker 1: Jones develops into an absolute superstar like Landon Collins or something.
Speaker 1: I mean that that could go a long way. And
Speaker 1: that was training Camp Spotlight presented by New Era. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Greg got something else. I wanted to
Speaker 1: give him a second to interrupt me, but he had
Speaker 1: nothing else. That's it. That's good. But that was good info.
Speaker 1: Are they gonna keeps sending you out or what I
Speaker 1: am going to? Uh? The other Los Angeles teams, the
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Speaker 1: and I enjoyed your van and white impression there. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about it now. Like I said on Thursday,
Speaker 1: All or Nothing came up. I have my buddy Jason,
Speaker 1: who is a loyal, uh and faithful listener to the show.
Speaker 1: He he texted me about a week ago as that dude.
Speaker 1: I know it has a lot of bad juice around,
Speaker 1: alleged bad juju, but All or Nothing is a good season.
Speaker 1: You should watch it. Greg started saying the same thing,
Speaker 1: and then we said, hey, listeners, do you want us
Speaker 1: to talk about All or Nothing? Inundated with tweets? People
Speaker 1: wanted it literally millions of tweets. I got four million
Speaker 1: tweets saying talk about all or nothing, So let's talk
Speaker 1: about all or nothing, which focused of course on the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams and UM and and it was a
Speaker 1: show that this was always let me my initial takeaways
Speaker 1: that the show really like like Greg teas that really
Speaker 1: gets hot in the back end and and takes you
Speaker 1: to a place that if you watch football programming, NFL
Speaker 1: films is the best in the business at it. We've
Speaker 1: never really seen a team disintegrating UM documented in this way,
Speaker 1: or at least I haven't, so I found that fascinating.
Speaker 1: The biggest mistake they made and the reason why there
Speaker 1: was so much bad buzz. If they just would have
Speaker 1: done all or nothing on the Rams and once somewhere
Speaker 1: else for Hard Knocks, I think they would have been
Speaker 1: in a better situation. But the fact that they did
Speaker 1: double up, people were already like, wait, been there, done that,
Speaker 1: And then on top of it, the Rams were laughing
Speaker 1: stock laugh last season, so people just tuned out. But
Speaker 1: if you tune in and and we'll start with Greg,
Speaker 1: if you tuned in here, and if you after you
Speaker 1: got past those initial episodes, the first couple episodes really
Speaker 1: did feel overly familiar based on Hard Knocks which documents tray,
Speaker 1: hard knocks, cutting room foor material for the most part,
Speaker 1: And they start three and one, right, and they start
Speaker 1: three and one, and you know it's not going anywhere,
Speaker 1: so you don't really understand the point. But once you
Speaker 1: get to episode five and then especially six, which I
Speaker 1: feel like is the Lynch Pinnelhole series, and then seven
Speaker 1: and eight, the show really takes flight. Greg your thoughts.
Speaker 1: I I think seeing a team just what's going on
Speaker 1: when a season is falling apart, and the desperation of
Speaker 1: the coaches and the depression of the players, and how
Speaker 1: much it meant to them, Like it just humanized a
Speaker 1: team that we had just been mocking been Lee at
Speaker 1: that point, and you do realize, and of course if
Speaker 1: there's editing everything going involved to it, how much the
Speaker 1: players cared, how much it hurt them, and also how
Speaker 1: ridiculous some of the situations are where it's Tuesday before
Speaker 1: they play the Patriots and you've got one of their
Speaker 1: coaches just, you know, Greg Williams just railing against them.
Speaker 1: Do you really love football? All this stuff? It's Tuesday morning,
Speaker 1: it's five days away from the game, and that team's
Speaker 1: gonna get drilled. No, matter what you say. So there's
Speaker 1: there's just all these strange, uh moments, But to me,
Speaker 1: it really came together game what was it fourteen in
Speaker 1: their season when they got waxed by the Falcons, the
Speaker 1: game that got Jeff Fisher fired. And rather, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm I want to talk about the the second to
Speaker 1: last game of the season after John Fossil is the
Speaker 1: coach and they lose to the forty niners. They have
Speaker 1: a one to seven lead with about six seven with
Speaker 1: about six minutes left, and in any other document or
Speaker 1: or any other NFL things, there's some sort of lesson
Speaker 1: there that like, Okay, they didn't give up, you know,
Speaker 1: John Foster there at least trying, like there's a great moment.
Speaker 1: But no, that's not what sports are like. Sports are
Speaker 1: just sometimes a kick in the nuts they blow the lead.
Speaker 1: There's no lesson to be learned. The lesson is, you
Speaker 1: guys are terrible, and no matter how much you try,
Speaker 1: sometimes sports is just gonna get away from you. Sorry,
Speaker 1: Like that was the lesson. It was about as dark
Speaker 1: as I've ever seen a sports show I watched. So
Speaker 1: I watched the first two a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and I like a lot of people said, I've got
Speaker 1: better things to do right now. But so last night,
Speaker 1: because we knew we were gonna come on this, I
Speaker 1: was texting you guys as I was binge watching like
Speaker 1: this many episodes as I could, and I kept saying,
Speaker 1: every time Jeff Fisher gets on screen, this production falls
Speaker 1: apart from me. Because I am I already had issues
Speaker 1: with Jeff Fisher. I am growing to dislike him more
Speaker 1: and more. He seems to me he's walking around the
Speaker 1: Britney Spears children at some point all this stuff happening
Speaker 1: where this guy just feels to me like a creation,
Speaker 1: a version of Jeff Fisher, and I don't really feel
Speaker 1: a lot of genuine energy coming from When John Fossil
Speaker 1: took over, the whole show absolutely took off from me.
Speaker 1: I I think what I learned watching John Fossil, who
Speaker 1: was promoted from a special Teams coach where he admitted
Speaker 1: he was down in the basement in a bunker and
Speaker 1: they show him down there was a special team. With
Speaker 1: the passion that he had, I thought he was a
Speaker 1: truly plugged in coach that loved working with players and
Speaker 1: developing them. Then he jumps into these massive shoes, and
Speaker 1: you can find out how rough that job would be
Speaker 1: when you suddenly are gonna be the head coach to
Speaker 1: have to go and coach your first game ever and
Speaker 1: the trial and what's going on. Mentally, clearly was not
Speaker 1: even aware of what the experience would be like. Short week,
Speaker 1: very short week. They fired Fisher on a Monday after
Speaker 1: a blowout. I think to the Pats, they had the
Speaker 1: Seahawks on the road on a short week, and that's
Speaker 1: what he gets tossed into. And there's a great moment
Speaker 1: with them off who I believe is the executive vice
Speaker 1: president of operations, and it's a shot from from a
Speaker 1: distance um and they show him basically them of trying
Speaker 1: to tell Fossil, this is gonna be okay, you can
Speaker 1: do this. Just be yourself. We're gonna help you out
Speaker 1: and faster. You could see it in his face. And
Speaker 1: then they go to Seattle and they get predictably waxed.
Speaker 1: And after the game, I was really taken by how
Speaker 1: he seemed. He wasn't happy, Fassil, but there was almost
Speaker 1: a look of relief on his face. Just I survived
Speaker 1: that game. I'm a head coach and I was a
Speaker 1: head coach for a game in in This the strangest
Speaker 1: week of my life and I survived that. And Greg,
Speaker 1: you mentioned the fossil Um clip after the Christmas Eve
Speaker 1: lost to the Fortys. The niners of all teams scored
Speaker 1: fifteen points on him in their building in the last
Speaker 1: five minutes. Here is the video actually of um Fossil
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what to say. Well, first time
Speaker 1: from probably don't have a lot of pearls are weird
Speaker 1: and for you, but you know, I had a hell
Speaker 1: of it time. It was a hell of it experience.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that we got two weeks left and
Speaker 1: after that, obviously a lot of things are going to change.
Speaker 1: So I'm proud of you out there. We're to keep fighting,
Speaker 1: We're gonna go back to work, We're gonna stay together.
Speaker 1: We're gonna grind till the fish because that's just what
Speaker 1: we do. All right, All good. The highlights for me
Speaker 1: and Mark touched on this John Fossell's genuine energy, which
Speaker 1: stood in contrast to some of the other main characters
Speaker 1: in the show, Kevin Demof's humanity and tough moments, Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley's competitive fire, Sean mcveigh's football mind in the final episode,
Speaker 1: which was in stark contrast to the previous head coaches
Speaker 1: football mind in my opinion, and to me, the issues
Speaker 1: I had with this show were the head coach, offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator and defensive coordinator to start the program. And you
Speaker 1: look at a piece of art and you say, do
Speaker 1: I believe it? Or you watch a movie are you
Speaker 1: willing to put in willing suspension of disbelief? You go
Speaker 1: to see a comedian, do you buy in to what
Speaker 1: that comedian saying? I didn't buy into anything Greg Williams,
Speaker 1: Rob Boris or Jeff Fisher was saying. Maybe there was there.
Speaker 1: I think that was part of the problem. They don't
Speaker 1: come off if you read books about football players, what
Speaker 1: do they want in a coaching staff? Foremost? Are you
Speaker 1: going to give us a competitive edge by being smarter
Speaker 1: and more innovative than the opposing coaching staff? And I
Speaker 1: didn't get the sense the RAMS staff was that utterly
Speaker 1: with you, like I found the offensive side the ball
Speaker 1: specially too. It was head scratching to watch them try
Speaker 1: to figure out how to process what was happening with
Speaker 1: their offense. Although girly you know when Fisher, you know,
Speaker 1: lost the job and This is true of a lot
Speaker 1: of the players. Girly cried and they were they seemed
Speaker 1: very upset. So there did seem to me like a
Speaker 1: human connection with Fisher, And yet I don't know if
Speaker 1: they ended up respecting him enough as a true football
Speaker 1: coach to to really do it well. One doesn't happen
Speaker 1: to gate the other. Right, you can still like a
Speaker 1: guy as a human and not believe that he's gonna
Speaker 1: outsmart Bill Belichick came in. There's a sense of guilt
Speaker 1: because you've you've you've let that you've caused jobs that
Speaker 1: as the players, and I think there were some great
Speaker 1: scenes where the players were calling each other out, saying
Speaker 1: we cost this man his job. And that was a
Speaker 1: real moment when when when Gurley goes off at halftime
Speaker 1: of the Falcons game, it's like twenty one to three
Speaker 1: and he's saying, horse bleep, you know what we put
Speaker 1: out there and everything that comes right after rob Boris
Speaker 1: kind of loses his mind and just saying like that's
Speaker 1: not who we are, Like now we're really going to
Speaker 1: find out who we're made of. And I'm thinking the
Speaker 1: players have to be thinking this, and I'm thinking this, No,
Speaker 1: it's it's Week four, team, the wheels will come. You
Speaker 1: are you are You've lost six or seven straight games.
Speaker 1: You are getting drilled. You have found out what you're
Speaker 1: made of. I mean fossil. Fossil said that after that
Speaker 1: they lost the second last. I got the vibe that
Speaker 1: um if Jeff Fisher seemed like a lovable uncle type
Speaker 1: guy to them, a guy that they knew was a
Speaker 1: football life that had done things in this league, and
Speaker 1: now he was coaching them, and they didn't really believe
Speaker 1: in the system, and they knew they stunk, but they
Speaker 1: still liked him personally. And and let's throw to another
Speaker 1: clip here, which is Johnny Hecker, who's maybe one of
Speaker 1: the only guys to give a damn about last season,
Speaker 1: was one of the best punters in the league. Uh,
Speaker 1: and considers himself to be a team leader even though
Speaker 1: he's a puncher. He gets up after Fisher had left
Speaker 1: the room and the team's in shock and delivers this
Speaker 1: tearful address. Coach Fish gave us all a chance. Man.
Speaker 1: Uh we with it. Uh. They're giving bone a new
Speaker 1: chance to start something new. And U and us, we
Speaker 1: sat back and you give us all shot. We had
Speaker 1: nothing moved it was a distraction. He handled it like
Speaker 1: a man. He gave us every opportunity we needed to deceed.
Speaker 1: We didn't hold each other accountable. We cannot sell usselves
Speaker 1: short moving forward, guys as leaders, I mean, godly, you
Speaker 1: guys the hen Man, I haven't been there, I haven't
Speaker 1: done my best. I'm sorry, Sorry, Coach Fish, He's not
Speaker 1: gonna hear it, but we all gotta we're it. We're
Speaker 1: all gonna know that that man's gone because of us.
Speaker 1: And going back to McVeigh, um, did anybody else get
Speaker 1: like a and I know you can get sucked into
Speaker 1: how someone's presented in a documentary, everybody else get like
Speaker 1: a young John Gruden vibe off the guys, Well, they've
Speaker 1: been saying that about him from his heirs. I think
Speaker 1: he's literally trying to do I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: trying to, but that's sort of I see. I hadn't
Speaker 1: even heard that he's tied deep to the Grudens. And
Speaker 1: there's certainly it seems like he's pulled some not mannerisms,
Speaker 1: but just sort of energy. And President definitely got the
Speaker 1: Gruden energy and the confidence in the way he how
Speaker 1: easily was interacting with everyone with golf, like he's like
Speaker 1: that stuff you didn't like immediately, it was cool to see,
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, um, you know what we saw in
Speaker 1: terms of the post firing, that was what was really interesting.
Speaker 1: I mean you saw this these conversations like them Off
Speaker 1: and Fossil or or the post firing meeting where a
Speaker 1: bunch of different people take turns talking, or McVeigh meeting
Speaker 1: golf for the first time and kind of selling himself
Speaker 1: to golf, Like, hey, you did some rare stuff in
Speaker 1: that in New Orleans game where you know, like we've
Speaker 1: never seen stuff like that. And I don't know what
Speaker 1: Sean mcveigh's character is. I don't know, like when they
Speaker 1: go through a losing streak or tough times happened, will
Speaker 1: he how will he handle a verse thirty one? But
Speaker 1: you could tell in that final episode. If I'm a
Speaker 1: RAMS fan, I'm excited because he is a smart, smart guy.
Speaker 1: And and you said, Jared Goff, I think listen, we
Speaker 1: know he had a lot of issues last year, but
Speaker 1: that the show also did a nice job showing the
Speaker 1: impossible situation he was put into last year. I know
Speaker 1: he struggled on the field, but the fact that he
Speaker 1: was in that coaching staff that was in over its head.
Speaker 1: And then right when maybe he would start to get
Speaker 1: his sea legs as a starter, they get rid of
Speaker 1: the coach and he's left with a special teams coordinator
Speaker 1: and a team that's completely adrift. I mean, if anybody
Speaker 1: deserves a fresh start with a new young coach that
Speaker 1: knows offense, it's this kid. So it kind of gave
Speaker 1: me personally almost hitting the reset button. And I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to see what he looks like this season. And
Speaker 1: you really felt sympathy for someone like him, and also
Speaker 1: someone like Rob Boris, who were saying has been in
Speaker 1: over his head, and it's like, this is the guy
Speaker 1: who's worked his ass off his entire life, got an
Speaker 1: opportunity that was that he essentially earned, and maybe he
Speaker 1: wasn't ready for that job, and then and he just
Speaker 1: has to deal with it. And then you see him
Speaker 1: in Buffalo at six in the morning showing up. He's
Speaker 1: the new tight ends coach there and he's talking about
Speaker 1: his family and he literally hasn't they would stayed in St.
Speaker 1: Louis after they moved to l A. He literally has
Speaker 1: not been with his family for sixteen months, and he's
Speaker 1: talking about while at least we have that coming up.
Speaker 1: They're finally gonna move here into and in the Buffalo
Speaker 1: from l A potentially if things went better, and as
Speaker 1: you feel for him, the human where we've made fun
Speaker 1: of him and they're just to us there a lot
Speaker 1: of times because we don't have in depth contact with him.
Speaker 1: They're just names on pages. Offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator, assistant.
Speaker 1: But what's going on? I like the word this show
Speaker 1: takes off for me, in same with hard Knox, is
Speaker 1: when you get to learn who these people are, their strengths,
Speaker 1: their weaknesses, and how actually just how human the whole
Speaker 1: thing is. When this team is utterly collapsing, you're thinking,
Speaker 1: these are high ranking experts handling this behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: but it's quite the to sit there panicking and they
Speaker 1: don't know if their players are going to develop at all,
Speaker 1: if they're gonna have jobs two months from now. You've
Speaker 1: got kids in school, you probably have a wife panicking
Speaker 1: at home. If you're a coach. I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: tough deal. So there that's all nothing talk. Oh wait,
Speaker 1: we I do have I do want to point out
Speaker 1: one thing which if you if you watch the show,
Speaker 1: I feel like listeners will remember this moment, which that
Speaker 1: count as the most haunting moment in the history of
Speaker 1: NFL films. And I don't know if we have a
Speaker 1: screenshot or not, but it's haunted me. I it's stuck
Speaker 1: in my mind. At one point three days after Jeff
Speaker 1: Fishers fired, they are getting on the team bus for
Speaker 1: to go to the airport to go to Seattle, and
Speaker 1: with no warning from NFL Films, no nothing, they are
Speaker 1: leaving and at right at the part of the grounds
Speaker 1: where they're leaving, Jeff Fisher is holding a dog and
Speaker 1: his wife is there, not because you see his wife
Speaker 1: later in the that's a good point. And I think
Speaker 1: that's a woman, like a mom that was shopping for
Speaker 1: groceries and it's like an unnamed shadowy female. There's there's
Speaker 1: a cop, a security cop near them for some reason too,
Speaker 1: and they waved goodbye to the team bust and there's
Speaker 1: no explanation. I thought, have I am I seen things? Why?
Speaker 1: Like why is Jeff Fisher there? Why is he why
Speaker 1: is he allowed on the grounds? I mean, if or
Speaker 1: choosing to go there, there's probably a very logical explanation,
Speaker 1: like he was going to clean up his his office
Speaker 1: or something. But something with something was very sad and
Speaker 1: eerie about it reminded me you said ghosts of like
Speaker 1: the ghosts that that people said they saw at the
Speaker 1: back of Three Men? Was that Jeff Fisher even there
Speaker 1: was it like the players wishing that he was there
Speaker 1: and then he I don't know. I have the theory
Speaker 1: that every coach it gets fired becomes a ghost on
Speaker 1: that team's campus. And we just happen to see the
Speaker 1: specter and it's kind of like some type of weird
Speaker 1: thing where they there was something Mike Patton walking around
Speaker 1: you got, you know, just like a massive humanity uh
Speaker 1: and and brea. But yeah, we did get to see
Speaker 1: Greg Williams the last episode. That a nice job of
Speaker 1: showing where everyone ended up like, uh, like the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator in Buffalo and Greg Williams right back and now
Speaker 1: in all Brown's Greers screaming and mother effing all the
Speaker 1: players like Bud killing. I mean, how is this guy
Speaker 1: keep getting the top defensive jobs? Could you play sport
Speaker 1: for Greg Williams? I could not. I would not respond
Speaker 1: well to somebody treating human beings that way. Also, what
Speaker 1: about you know, the Browns they had to see the
Speaker 1: tape of that that Saints game too. That's not let's
Speaker 1: not like like Greg Williams is unassailable. As if it's
Speaker 1: not as if the Browns also had their absolute pick
Speaker 1: of any sort of person they wanted to come in
Speaker 1: and coach their defense. I mean, you've got us, You've
Speaker 1: got slim pickings, and they go, Greg Williams, all right,
Speaker 1: So there you go and hard knocks a reminder, will
Speaker 1: we will talk hard knocks in a couple of weeks. Uh.
Speaker 1: The season a very and highly anticipated season with the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers and uh and around will do the
Speaker 1: right ups and we'll talk about it on the show.
Speaker 1: Um before we go. This past weekend was the NFL
Speaker 1: Media Family and End's Day. How about that? Is that
Speaker 1: the first annual? Yes, it was a new initiative by
Speaker 1: leadership up above, and uh it was a very nice day.
Speaker 1: We got uh Mark you and your family there. Greg,
Speaker 1: we lost you, but you were there with the wife
Speaker 1: Walker my son. It was very hot that day and
Speaker 1: he just started laying down on the pavement as as
Speaker 1: Alice was jumping in the bouncy castle, and he was like,
Speaker 1: all right, we gotta go. He's literally down eventually, like
Speaker 1: Mark and myself and Emily and Simone, we wanted to
Speaker 1: take the kids and show him where we sit. You
Speaker 1: know that that security guy. I you know that I
Speaker 1: declared vengeance against that guy uh years ago over entrance,
Speaker 1: over him, him and his his his parking rules which
Speaker 1: are unfair. And I should be able to spark park
Speaker 1: in a reserve spot and I will one day. And
Speaker 1: when I do, and you know who you are, I
Speaker 1: will laugh in your face. Anyway, we try to take
Speaker 1: our kids to show our desk, and there he is again,
Speaker 1: not a m the security man saying no nobody without
Speaker 1: a badge and come in. I was like my son's
Speaker 1: three age old tradition to go visit your because you
Speaker 1: had a badge, but the kids couldn't. No kids or
Speaker 1: family allowed. So Mark and ill town sheriff we got
Speaker 1: wildly and then Mark, you made a bit of a
Speaker 1: rookie mistake. You then asked if we were allowed to
Speaker 1: go to a different area, which he promptly said no.
Speaker 1: We waited till he Whenever somebody, whenever an authority figure
Speaker 1: is being, what you need to do is look for
Speaker 1: ways to undermine him, and never never communicate with him.
Speaker 1: You wait till he turns his back and you go.
Speaker 1: I immediately got a shut down in another area of
Speaker 1: the of the premises. So what we did. We wait
Speaker 1: until he turned around. We went and we did a
Speaker 1: tour of the studio and everything. That was fun. And
Speaker 1: then I said, hey, I know Mr Security man is
Speaker 1: not gonna like it, but let's go to the podcast studio.
Speaker 1: Uh and now, and this has yet another reason to
Speaker 1: check out our video program. We got uh Luke and Culton,
Speaker 1: Mark's boys and Jack and Harrison my boys took over
Speaker 1: the airs here in the A T N podcast studio
Speaker 1: and uh, you could check it out right now if
Speaker 1: you're watching video. And I thought that was quite a
Speaker 1: fun thing. It was great. It's also on my Facebook page.
Speaker 1: Feel free to add. No, no no, you're not adding, getting
Speaker 1: out of my Facebook page. But you're gonna wait. This week,
Speaker 1: the Jets are brown. Oh great, you guys are probably
Speaker 1: giving good at the houses. Here we are in the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast studio. Say hi, everybody, who's your favorite team? Nice?
Speaker 1: Good by, Harrison. Who's your favorite team? Who's your favorite team? Player? Players? Okay,
Speaker 1: sounds back the bug fantasy football fan. I'm fair advantage
Speaker 1: Sessor's got your boys by a few years podcast. All right,
Speaker 1: that's it's good. Um, yeah, my son his favorite team
Speaker 1: is player. Uh. It shows that maybe he's a fantasy
Speaker 1: football fan, maybe he doesn't value teams. And I personally,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't want to be a Jets fan and
Speaker 1: Harry doesnt want to be a Jet fan, I am
Speaker 1: not going to stand in the way because I know well,
Speaker 1: I mean, let's say, if you aren't able to watch
Speaker 1: the video, they are in Jets clothing, so there is
Speaker 1: some influence being wheeling. No, I'm totally lying. They have.
Speaker 1: If they want me to fully love them, they'll be
Speaker 1: Jets fans. But that was a great That was a
Speaker 1: great little event. And uh, West and two years you
Speaker 1: could bring your young son as well into the procedures.
Speaker 1: And maybe twins. You know something I don't know. The
Speaker 1: human body is an interesting thing. Pump out twins and
Speaker 1: the way you go, we all got two boys. Twins
Speaker 1: do run in my family? They do? You know? I
Speaker 1: have a daughter, you know, Shot, I thought we all
Speaker 1: had everyone I know has all boys except for you,
Speaker 1: which is a strange thing. Is having a daughter is
Speaker 1: a great thing. I recommended highly. Yeah, that's what they say.
Speaker 1: There's no pure love I was told and a daughter
Speaker 1: for her father. That won't be happening in the Sessler
Speaker 1: family will be fine. Thank you. All Right, that's it
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