Speaker 1: Do you Around the NFL podcast has completely fixed their mechanics.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus and I am joined by
Speaker 1: room filled with herero was Mark Sssler, Kelly and Wolf
Speaker 1: and Greg Ryls and thal what's up team? Hey? Hey, hey, Okay,
Speaker 1: liked it. Yeah, I've been cool A little bit of
Speaker 1: a wink. Martindale Field to that intro today. I could
Speaker 1: do that job. Did you guys see Money's mustache? By
Speaker 1: the way, I have seen a tweet. I didn't know
Speaker 1: if it was for something he was shooting or what
Speaker 1: I think he said. I saw him at Chargers training
Speaker 1: camp and he was saying something about the fact that
Speaker 1: guys grow playoff beards, why can't he grow preseason mustache? So, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was rocking the stash. I thought it looked good.
Speaker 1: It does follow the trend. People are always coming up
Speaker 1: with reasons to grow mustaches, beards or whatever like they need.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing. Just own it, dude. It's like,
Speaker 1: you want to grow a mustache, That's fine, It's two
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen. It is. Actually that is funny. You bring
Speaker 1: it and money if you're not aware. He handles those
Speaker 1: intros uh so well for our podcast at no cost
Speaker 1: to us, and it's certainly no income to him. But
Speaker 1: I think money is doing okay. I think men in general, um,
Speaker 1: when uh, if you're shaving a beard or you're in
Speaker 1: a situation what you decided to grow a mustache, it
Speaker 1: looks a lot better when you're in your bathroom by yourself,
Speaker 1: looking in the mirror and you're kind of sold on
Speaker 1: and you know the stigma attached to the most Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely do. And then you walk outside the bathroom
Speaker 1: and then you just hope it doesn't get ridiculed. But
Speaker 1: almost every time, especially women, um, they'll say no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you just gotta own that thing. You gotta I mean
Speaker 1: you've had a mustache before, right, So I have worn
Speaker 1: one for the most part for the last four years
Speaker 1: on and off. So yeah, that explains a lot. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: but terrible time for facial hair in general, where the
Speaker 1: idea of a beard in general has become this like
Speaker 1: artist thing where there's like deep websites about beard grooming
Speaker 1: in beard culture, beard oil oil. Yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: is this is this gonna are you heading into a rant?
Speaker 1: Against the millennials here. No, no, I mean I actually
Speaker 1: this has been around from early two thousand's. This is
Speaker 1: this is pre millennial. It's not a millennial shot. I
Speaker 1: just think the idea of like, let's not over celebrate
Speaker 1: a beard. Having a beard means that you've done nothing.
Speaker 1: You didn't shave, you did nothing, hair just grew in
Speaker 1: your face. Okay, alright, that's fine. I mean you're getting
Speaker 1: fired up about it. It's you know, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: beard can look good on the right person does and
Speaker 1: it does. Anyway, way, off, we got a lot to
Speaker 1: talk about today, um, because yes, the Ezekiel Elliott news
Speaker 1: came down about his suspension. Uh, and that is there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a huge fall out there. Um, we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about that in the news. We also have a
Speaker 1: lot of preseason football to get to. Week one of
Speaker 1: the preseason has started, uh, and we're gonna break down
Speaker 1: what happened on Thursday, and then a bunch of games
Speaker 1: on Friday. And then of course I got a big
Speaker 1: announcement announcement, big announcement that's coming up at the end
Speaker 1: of the show. That's classic keys. In the old days
Speaker 1: of television, you could tease something for the end of
Speaker 1: an episode, and the people that just sit there like
Speaker 1: the yokels and just wait for it and sit through
Speaker 1: commercials and all the other stuff. Now people can skip
Speaker 1: to the end of You can do it, but don't
Speaker 1: because I think we've got a good show, right grect.
Speaker 1: It would seem strange to skip past the Ezekiel Elliott news.
Speaker 1: We've got a big phone call coming up. There was
Speaker 1: a three team trade that was one of the most
Speaker 1: interesting trades in recent history. It would be weird to
Speaker 1: skip ahead. Counterpoint, You can skip ahead, get the news
Speaker 1: if you really want it, then come back and listen
Speaker 1: to the rest. Just don't do it. Very flexible. I
Speaker 1: mean you could even skip ahead and skip the rest
Speaker 1: of the show and go read about it elsewhere. You
Speaker 1: have a lot of options in today's media. Double time
Speaker 1: you could listen on Double Time Speed. I do that sometimes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't get that. We've had other well, I like
Speaker 1: one and a half speed sometimes if I like, if
Speaker 1: I just need the does like it's not a lot
Speaker 1: like if if it's not just I'm hanging out, I
Speaker 1: want to listen to this and really like take it in.
Speaker 1: If I just need information, quickly fast. I go one
Speaker 1: and it sounds the weirdest on one and a half
Speaker 1: speed from what Greg? Yeah, I go from like annoying
Speaker 1: to unlistenable. Yeah, I've It's like how if you heard
Speaker 1: like a filmmaker getting annoyed when someone says, oh, I
Speaker 1: watched your movie on my laptop. That's how I feel
Speaker 1: when I hear people say, oh, yeah, I watch it
Speaker 1: two and a half times of speed now as the
Speaker 1: artists wanted it to be. You were really taken back
Speaker 1: by that. When I told you, you were like, well,
Speaker 1: do the jokes? Does the timing still work? Yes, everything
Speaker 1: still works. I don't like it. Like it. It doesn't
Speaker 1: sit well with me. All Right, Before we get it
Speaker 1: to anything, we gotta check behind the glass with Sully.
Speaker 1: What's up, buddy, Boys up, guys, last show on the mic.
Speaker 1: This is it? Yeah, this is it. I'm sure you're crushed, crushed, crushed. No,
Speaker 1: it's been it's been a fun summer outside of the
Speaker 1: uh um random random No, it's been a fun summer
Speaker 1: outside of all my involvement with your show. No, no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, outside of the the fifteen random fifteen minute
Speaker 1: before the show. Requests from Dan and the random snarking
Speaker 1: comments from Greg. It's been it's been a great it's
Speaker 1: been a great summer, Sully style taking shots out. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: who's gonna take the mic? Erica is taking over the mic.
Speaker 1: She has been here for a little bit over a
Speaker 1: week and she's awesome. She's gonna do great for you guys,
Speaker 1: big fan already, right, so for you guys. Alright, Sully,
Speaker 1: so long forever until the next time. We are in
Speaker 1: a disaster mode with our production team, which could happen
Speaker 1: in about eight t twelve months. Yeah, yeah, we'll see
Speaker 1: We'll see you guys, and welcome Erica. No pressure, don't
Speaker 1: worry about it. It's gonna be smooth sailing. Let's do
Speaker 1: some news, alright, Sully going out on top with a
Speaker 1: great drop. All right, We'll start with a huge story
Speaker 1: coming out of Dallas. Zekiel Elliott, the running back for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, suspended six games for violating the league's personal
Speaker 1: conduct policy. The ruling comes after a marathon investigation by
Speaker 1: the NFL, which caught um got on a lot of
Speaker 1: people's radar, led to a lot of issues in terms
Speaker 1: of criticism for the league about how long it was
Speaker 1: taking it was a year long investigation in fact UH
Speaker 1: into domestic violence accusations made against him by a woman
Speaker 1: named Tiffany Thompson UM, who had identified herself as a
Speaker 1: former girlfriend. Elliott had denied and always has denied the allegations.
Speaker 1: He's twenty two years old. But the league handed down
Speaker 1: the ruling six games. He's already appealed it, as you
Speaker 1: would expect Elliott. But this goes back to Gregu, the
Speaker 1: allegations with UH, with Tiffany Thompson, but also the issue
Speaker 1: the UH, the incident that happened on St. Patrick's day
Speaker 1: UM with the woman that Elliot groped and was caught
Speaker 1: on video. So the NFL sends a pretty big statement
Speaker 1: by taking them out of action six games. I think
Speaker 1: there was surprising the length of the suspension. Wasn't it great?
Speaker 1: It was, and yet maybe it shouldn't have been because
Speaker 1: the domestic violence policy, which was enacted with so much
Speaker 1: attention on it, is pretty cut and dry and sets
Speaker 1: up very specific numbers for how long a player is
Speaker 1: going to be suspended upon their first infraction. Six games.
Speaker 1: I mean, we we've seen this before, and for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: I think primarily because it wasn't a case that got
Speaker 1: Zeke in trouble legally, you know, through the court system.
Speaker 1: People just assumed that there wasn't gonna be that much
Speaker 1: follow up here, that it wasn't that big of a deal.
Speaker 1: And the NFL very clearly and had someone speaking really
Speaker 1: representing the NFL of why they did this, said they
Speaker 1: believe there was a series of interactions where violence occurred,
Speaker 1: point blank, and that he should be suspended for well.
Speaker 1: And Elliott's team has already come out with a statement
Speaker 1: of their own and they are going to fight this hard.
Speaker 1: And it makes me wonder if the suspension, almost like
Speaker 1: with Tom Brady's, if the appeal is going to take
Speaker 1: a long time, that this does not happen this year, potentially.
Speaker 1: One one note in their in their response from the
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott team, they said the NFL's findings are replete
Speaker 1: with factual inaccuracies and erroneous conclusions and a cherry picks
Speaker 1: so called evidence to support its conclusion, while ignoring other
Speaker 1: critical evidence that said the NFL did not rush this investigation.
Speaker 1: Quite the opposite, it seems from the note that they
Speaker 1: sent Elliott a five or six page dense recording of
Speaker 1: their findings that they took their time and they came
Speaker 1: to a conclusion they believe in. Yeah, this was something
Speaker 1: that I think that if they came down with that
Speaker 1: a little bit quicker, it wouldn't turn into the mess
Speaker 1: that it's about to turn into. It's already a mess,
Speaker 1: and it already has lingered so long. Just looking at
Speaker 1: the timeline of everything, there's so many events and there's
Speaker 1: so much time that has passed that it's hard to
Speaker 1: get a grasp on what what the chain of command
Speaker 1: is and why it's taken so long to actually hand
Speaker 1: this down. Well, there was a March incident this year,
Speaker 1: as Dan mentioned, that was and ultimately added to the investigation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't see. I don't There's always the NFL is
Speaker 1: always going to be criticized for basically anything they do. Uh.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's fairly, sometimes unfairly. In this case, I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think the NFL was really I think they
Speaker 1: did the right job here. I think that Elliott absolutely
Speaker 1: uh was was doing things that the league has set
Speaker 1: very clearly, as Greg puts in their guidelines of how
Speaker 1: you're supposed to carry yourself and it should and they
Speaker 1: and they handed out the punishment before the season started. Yes,
Speaker 1: it took the better part of the year, but it's
Speaker 1: it's squared away before week one and the Cowboys know
Speaker 1: exactly where they where they stand a little late in
Speaker 1: the game, but that's just hey, listen, that's part of
Speaker 1: the problem when one of your players gets out of
Speaker 1: line like this. I think for the big picture for
Speaker 1: me also as Elliott, it's got to be a wake
Speaker 1: up call to this guy because there's been multiple incidents
Speaker 1: and if you and we work in the league, we
Speaker 1: hear stories like there's clearly this guy is kind of
Speaker 1: living a lifestyle that can get him in himself into
Speaker 1: trouble and this was a product of that directly. How
Speaker 1: does he react going forward? Uh, but we'll have to see.
Speaker 1: I find it interesting because Greg, I agree with you
Speaker 1: now that we have had this new kind of landscape
Speaker 1: on how these kind of you know, issues will be
Speaker 1: dealt with. Its six games was going to be a
Speaker 1: regular ban, a regular punishment that we went from thinking
Speaker 1: forty eight hours ago where the where the Jones family
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys were saying we're confident that nothing will happen,
Speaker 1: and then you're hearing one game it could be maybe
Speaker 1: one or two games that this really if fits exactly
Speaker 1: what the NFL said would happen to players in this situation.
Speaker 1: But again, they're not completely sync up with lawmakers. They
Speaker 1: are acting as their own godlike force. But it's a
Speaker 1: totally different and I I don't know if there's been
Speaker 1: a lot of anti NFL reaction of wow that you know,
Speaker 1: this is curious that they're doing. First of all, it
Speaker 1: seems like there's anti you know, if it was the
Speaker 1: other way a few years ago. Obviously, I don't want
Speaker 1: to really dive into that because I don't feel like
Speaker 1: I have enough information to be like, oh, yeah, of
Speaker 1: course he deserved it. Of course he didn't. It's like,
Speaker 1: calm down, like everyone having these hot takes out there,
Speaker 1: don't know what they're talking about. Like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: What I can evaluate is what how it affects the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: how it affects Ezekiel Elliott and and it and it.
Speaker 1: They shouldn't be so surprised, like I'm a little weird.
Speaker 1: It's not the same. What I was gonna say was
Speaker 1: it's not the same thing as a court of law.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the difference between a court of
Speaker 1: law and a civil case. In a civil case, you
Speaker 1: just need to get fifty of of the blame to
Speaker 1: end up being guilty in a court of law, like
Speaker 1: you have to be beyond a reasonable doubt. The NFL
Speaker 1: is not looking for beyond reasonable doubt. They're looking to
Speaker 1: make what it was he probably at fault for this
Speaker 1: violence against her, were that the reasons that they gave
Speaker 1: for her having bruises, etcetera credible. They didn't think it
Speaker 1: was credible, right. All I'd say though, is that we
Speaker 1: we can move on to the football side. But it's
Speaker 1: not a complete mystery what the NFL their process of
Speaker 1: what they're thinking, because they send a very detailed letter
Speaker 1: that anyone can read on Twitter to Ezekiel that that's
Speaker 1: their thinking and exactly why the ruling hap. We don't
Speaker 1: know everything about it, but we know what the NFL
Speaker 1: used as a basis, and I feel like that's enough
Speaker 1: personally to make an opinion on whether this was a
Speaker 1: just punishment. That's that's where I come down. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: I can't speak to the details of what happened between
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott and that's what I mean and the woman,
Speaker 1: but I think that the league has to be consistent
Speaker 1: with their punishment and if it's six games, it's six games.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting on the football side of it because
Speaker 1: they the Cowboys have a bye week week six, so
Speaker 1: he's not coming back until he won't be playing until
Speaker 1: a week eight. It's I mean, do they have what's
Speaker 1: on their depth chart behind Elliott? Can they survive this?
Speaker 1: Ronnie Hillman they brought in. They have Rod Smith, who,
Speaker 1: like Darren McFadden, will be the starter. But Rod Smith,
Speaker 1: he if you guys want, everybody who watched the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game, he had a good some good plays
Speaker 1: in there, and he's had a really good training camp.
Speaker 1: They like him. I think they brought him, brought in
Speaker 1: some guys because they were bracing for the suspension. Dallas
Speaker 1: is the only team to play for top ten defense
Speaker 1: or from last year, and that in what would be
Speaker 1: the window where he's gone, they'll play the Giants, the Broncos, Cardinals, Rams, Packers,
Speaker 1: and forty Niners. The East is wide open. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris was believed on the roster bubble that maybe
Speaker 1: Rod Smith, who was impressed you can play a little
Speaker 1: fullback to was gonna kind of kick him off the roster.
Speaker 1: Now they have Alfred Morris there. That's another back who's
Speaker 1: had a thousand yard season. They'll keep him around. We've
Speaker 1: we've seen how this goes. We saw it a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago when Darren McFadden was kind of the
Speaker 1: bridge running back in the year between DeMarco Murray and
Speaker 1: Zekol Elliott. They weren't too bad. The question for me
Speaker 1: is is the offensive line as dominant. I mean, they
Speaker 1: have three of the best players. They should be fine,
Speaker 1: but they have a total question mark at left guard.
Speaker 1: You know, Jonathan Cooper there right now, a top former
Speaker 1: top ten pick who is washed out, and there that's
Speaker 1: a competition. Lyle Collins should be good at right tackle.
Speaker 1: It's you know, it's worth mentioning he's moving from a
Speaker 1: guard position he missed most of the last season. So
Speaker 1: it's a little more uncertain with their line than it
Speaker 1: usually they Also, if you look at and again, they're
Speaker 1: gonna have they're gonna have time potentially to to mix
Speaker 1: and match and use other running backs and get them,
Speaker 1: you know, in sync with Dak Prescott. But if you
Speaker 1: look at Prescott's numbers when Elliott was not in their
Speaker 1: list year, I mean they fall off. They don't. His
Speaker 1: numbers don't fall off the cliff, but the running game
Speaker 1: falls off a cliff the way that that offense operated.
Speaker 1: And it comes down to time of possession. That their
Speaker 1: their rush play percentage went from fifty six percent down
Speaker 1: to thirty five point five without Elliott. That's not who
Speaker 1: they are. They want to run the ball at least
Speaker 1: around of the time. I want to see how it
Speaker 1: affects DAC. And and also with this all the suspensions
Speaker 1: on defense, this is the sixteenth play there to be
Speaker 1: suspended since on the Cowboys. That's amazing. Yeah, that's part
Speaker 1: of the narrative with that team. And and I've thought
Speaker 1: all summer it was gonna be hard to match thirteen
Speaker 1: and three. This obviously adds another obstacle for them that
Speaker 1: I'm telling you they feel like a team where things
Speaker 1: can go sours. Well, now things now you're what You've
Speaker 1: had this prediction for a long time. This is starting
Speaker 1: to come into play in a strong way. You see,
Speaker 1: he'll be back and and play if he's healthy ten games.
Speaker 1: But it just I don't know, to get a lot
Speaker 1: of bed. And if you're Roger Goodell, the last two
Speaker 1: owners that you've gone hard at a Robert Craft and
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. Well, look how it worked out for the Patriots.
Speaker 1: That's true if you're gonna look at a positive that
Speaker 1: that opener against the Giants is the only division game
Speaker 1: in that mix. You've got the forty Niners and Rams
Speaker 1: out of those six games, which are about as easy
Speaker 1: a game on paper as they have all season. But
Speaker 1: you have some very challenging ones too, at Denver, at
Speaker 1: at Arizona. You get that Packers game there early, and
Speaker 1: you're doing it without Zeke. Well, by the way, mark,
Speaker 1: how do you know I didn't know that this was
Speaker 1: gonna happ Oh god, you know I didn't have sparrows
Speaker 1: the whole time. That's all. That's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I won't. I will not argue. I mean,
Speaker 1: you you made this prediction, you've had, You've been very
Speaker 1: confident for months ago. I mean, if I know one
Speaker 1: thing about NFL, you know network insider Dan hands Is,
Speaker 1: he's not one to really like not talk about things
Speaker 1: he knows. You know, It's true. He generally is got.
Speaker 1: It's kind of and it's also very rarely about on
Speaker 1: field football related happenings. It's typically more you know, personnel
Speaker 1: movement in house, work related gossip type things, and occasionally
Speaker 1: a locker room scenario like like what happened with Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: So you've expanded your your rule of insidery. You really
Speaker 1: do always have the best gossip, that's true. I want
Speaker 1: to know what you're giving your sparrows. I know that's gossip.
Speaker 1: Let's start gossip on you and gragging myself and others.
Speaker 1: That's it. You know what were we trying to say? Right?
Speaker 1: You would seem like you were getting yourself worked up
Speaker 1: to taking a shot at me, but you never got
Speaker 1: to finish there. M h. I think I think I
Speaker 1: basically said it. Then if you've got if you've got
Speaker 1: a bit of information, you're you're gonna put it out there.
Speaker 1: Oh it would not unless I got the big three
Speaker 1: Source one, two and trace triple source. Baby when Mark,
Speaker 1: When Mark said, when Mark said, rarely do you have
Speaker 1: sort of league information or player you know, personnel stuff.
Speaker 1: You know you could change rarely to never so far,
Speaker 1: so this would be a first, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So salty, so salty. Moving on big trades, big big trades,
Speaker 1: Come on, Greg, That's not like you. It's not like you.
Speaker 1: It's totally like me. Uh kind of is actually the Bills.
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills joined the New York Jets and the
Speaker 1: give Up Club in the two thousand seventeen season. They
Speaker 1: make a move, a couple of moves actually. The team
Speaker 1: announced that Sammy Watkins, their wide receiver first round pick
Speaker 1: in two thousand fourteen, traded to the Los Angeles Rams,
Speaker 1: along with a two thousand eighteen sixth round pick in
Speaker 1: exchange for cornerback e J Gaines and a two thousand
Speaker 1: eighteen second rounder. And another corresponding deal, the Bills acquired
Speaker 1: wide receiver Jordan Matthews and a two thousand eighteen third
Speaker 1: rounder from the Eagles for cornerback Ronald Darby. Mark will
Speaker 1: start with you on this one. Your initial takeaways. Let's
Speaker 1: start from the Bills side of things, your thoughts. Well,
Speaker 1: when I had to write this thing up, and you know,
Speaker 1: the tweets were coming fast and furious, my head was
Speaker 1: spinning because I at one point I thought that, oh,
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins will look great with Carson Wentz in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: But then you realize all these players are going else where.
Speaker 1: If I look at from the Bill's angle that the
Speaker 1: when the Bills never when they chose to completely pass
Speaker 1: the idea of giving Sammy Watkins to sign up for
Speaker 1: his option for next season, you knew he was not
Speaker 1: on the long term plans. I thought, you know, unless
Speaker 1: he stayed in Buffalo had a monster year and they
Speaker 1: thought he fits here, that it shouldn't be shocking that
Speaker 1: he's been traded, although it was surprising when this happened. Today,
Speaker 1: you look at what Buffalo has done here. They have
Speaker 1: accrewed a second and third rounder froeen and they have
Speaker 1: a first rounder with the trade from Kansas City to
Speaker 1: allow Kansas City to trade up to get Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: They are full force going after the two thousand and
Speaker 1: eighteen draft, and I wouldn't be shocked if it could
Speaker 1: even be to package themselves to get their quarterback of choice,
Speaker 1: if it's not Tyrod Taylor. After this season that this
Speaker 1: was a they are getting rid of Sammy Watkins. They
Speaker 1: have gotten Jordan Matthews. It's I'm not sure about. I
Speaker 1: think Jordan Matthews can do just as much as Sammy
Speaker 1: Watkins in that offense, but this is very much about
Speaker 1: the future in Buffalo. Yeah, this was so interesting first
Speaker 1: of all, the Bills having six picks in the first
Speaker 1: three rounds next year. Obviously, now they're in full rebuild mode,
Speaker 1: as you said, but I thought it was really interesting
Speaker 1: just bringing in Jordan Matthews getting rid of Ronald Darby.
Speaker 1: Ronald Darby he had, uh, he took a step back
Speaker 1: last season, but so did the entire Bills offense as
Speaker 1: a whole. Ronald Darby had his best season with Jim
Speaker 1: Schwartz when he was with the Bills. Now he's with
Speaker 1: the Eagles. That when he was a rookie, and I
Speaker 1: thought that he played almost as good as good to
Speaker 1: have defensive Rookie of the year's status, even though Marcus
Speaker 1: Peters got it. But I believe he only allowed four
Speaker 1: touchdowns and a two game span in And I think
Speaker 1: the Eagles got a great guy because they really needed
Speaker 1: a cornerback. But from the Bill's perspective, they what are
Speaker 1: they gonna do at corner I mean, Stephon Gilmore has
Speaker 1: already gone, You've drafted her Davious White. But yeah, if
Speaker 1: you're rebuilding, it's not scam for Sam and Buffalo, it's
Speaker 1: not that dire. I think they'll be able to be
Speaker 1: competitive because the quarterbacks a little underrated, and they still
Speaker 1: have some players there. But you know, it makes sense
Speaker 1: to me. It's maybe they have a huge hole in
Speaker 1: their quarterback, but a secondary who cares. Who cares? Because
Speaker 1: they're just like the Jets to a certain extense, just
Speaker 1: like the Dolpins. Even the Dobbins don't realize it yet.
Speaker 1: It's all has to be building for tomorrow, all because
Speaker 1: nothing's happening in the in the present. So I also
Speaker 1: think it was part of a culture move. Let's Doug Wally,
Speaker 1: let's sweep his legacy out of the building. Let's get
Speaker 1: these guys out of here and just put my stamp
Speaker 1: on it. I think it was a couple of things.
Speaker 1: I think the Whaley side of it and at the
Speaker 1: team just realizing what's our ceiling? Ten wins if everything
Speaker 1: goes right, Uh, what does that mean? We're gonna go
Speaker 1: to New England and win in the in the division
Speaker 1: round if I just think that they realized what their
Speaker 1: ceiling was, they realized it's time to play for the future,
Speaker 1: and that's the move they made. But it's hard though,
Speaker 1: and and they shouldn't pay for the sins of Buddy
Speaker 1: Nicks and Chan Gailey and Doug Whaley and Rex Ryan
Speaker 1: and every other plan that they've changed every two years
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. But I think it's fair if you're a
Speaker 1: Bills fan to be a little annoyed that, hey, we
Speaker 1: just gave up two first round picks and in another
Speaker 1: pick for Sammy Watkins. That was our guy. We bought
Speaker 1: a ton of jerseys. He's the most talented guy, you know,
Speaker 1: receiver we've had in a long time. He's gone. Ronald
Speaker 1: Darby was PFF Defensive Rookie of the Year. This is
Speaker 1: the part of the move that doesn't make much sense
Speaker 1: to me, because he's got two years left on his
Speaker 1: contract that total one point three million dollars. The Eagles
Speaker 1: have to look at it like, we just got an
Speaker 1: extremely talented player who doesn't cost anything. Worst case scenario,
Speaker 1: we franchise him like three years from now. That's a
Speaker 1: three year contract at a very low price for a
Speaker 1: very good player. And all we had to give up
Speaker 1: was a third round pick and Jordan Matthews, who was
Speaker 1: in the last year of his contract, who probably wasn't
Speaker 1: going to stick around Philly right, probably wasn't going to
Speaker 1: be that big of a fact. I think it's a
Speaker 1: very replaceable UH wide receiver that they're not gonna really
Speaker 1: miss too much with Nelson Aghilar and they've got some
Speaker 1: depth there and they get Ronald Darby back. It's great
Speaker 1: for them, and I think Bills fans just have to
Speaker 1: put their faith in Like, Okay, I guess we have
Speaker 1: to trust that McDermott and Billy and Brandon Bean are
Speaker 1: gonna make the right picks. But when was the last
Speaker 1: time of Bill's GM made the right picks. It was
Speaker 1: about twenty years ago. So so I don't blame the
Speaker 1: totally different the fans for being I know it's different people,
Speaker 1: but these are You're looking for really talented young players
Speaker 1: and they just traded away two of their most talented
Speaker 1: young players. As I'd say though down in the news
Speaker 1: when we were saying it, it it technically is not a
Speaker 1: three team trade now, but it is in the sense
Speaker 1: that the only way that they get Watkins out the door,
Speaker 1: which was going to happen at some point anyways, was
Speaker 1: to get something in return. And the Philadelphia side of it,
Speaker 1: I think they got They didn't get fleeced, but they
Speaker 1: gave up a lot to get Joe Matthew. No, I'm
Speaker 1: saying I'm seeing the Bills. The Bills giving up Darby
Speaker 1: is an expensive piece. But I think there was an
Speaker 1: agenda to get Watkins out of town. I don't think
Speaker 1: that Jordan Matthews is going to be better than Sammy Watkins.
Speaker 1: Though Jordan Matthews has never had a thousand yards receiving.
Speaker 1: Even Kenny Britt last year had more receiving. He has
Speaker 1: a high ceiling. Watkins on the Ram side of the ball.
Speaker 1: Let's just look at the Rams before we move on here.
Speaker 1: So they get another weapon and Watkins, and listen, this
Speaker 1: guy has been Bills traded up and passed on, essentially
Speaker 1: Mike Evans and Odell Beckham to get Sammy Watkins three
Speaker 1: years ago. And now it's now the Rams. It's their
Speaker 1: turn to really invest in the idea of Sammy Watkins
Speaker 1: as a superstar. But on paper, I get it you
Speaker 1: first overall, pick Jared Goff had nothing to work with,
Speaker 1: had a coaching staff that was over the match last year.
Speaker 1: Let's now give him a real weapon on the outside,
Speaker 1: the where you could come at them a little bit,
Speaker 1: greg As, you could say, all right, you know, Watkins
Speaker 1: is unproven, He's got a foot his foot issues. Uh,
Speaker 1: and it costs you a second round pick when your
Speaker 1: team is clearly still building towards something. It's expensive to
Speaker 1: get a guy with as much risk as Watkins haves,
Speaker 1: especially when the two thousand eighteen free agent class of
Speaker 1: wide receiver is so deep you don't want to get
Speaker 1: in the habit of trading way future picks. And this
Speaker 1: this group Sean McVeigh was still paying for Jared Goff trade.
Speaker 1: They didn't have a first or second round pick this year,
Speaker 1: and now they trade away next year's This deal only
Speaker 1: makes sense if Watkins is their long term. They now
Speaker 1: are in the spot where they have to get a
Speaker 1: contract done with Aerodonald. They basically have to make this
Speaker 1: Watkins move work because it really makes no sense for
Speaker 1: it to happen as a one year rental. That said,
Speaker 1: the Eagles biggest hole on their roster was cornerback. By far,
Speaker 1: it was not a competitive cornerback group. The Rams biggest
Speaker 1: hole in the roster by far was a vertical type
Speaker 1: of receiver. I mean, the closest thing they had was
Speaker 1: Robert Woods, Who's a possession guy. Right suddenly, they makes
Speaker 1: a lot more sense. Okay, Robert Woods, the possession guy,
Speaker 1: you got Cooper cups your slot receiver, and Tavon Austin
Speaker 1: is essentially a forgotten man and just kind of a
Speaker 1: utility number four guy, and it all works a lot better.
Speaker 1: This team is much better with Sammy. Watch one thing.
Speaker 1: I mean this Rams front office A you had to
Speaker 1: cut bait on Greg Robinson, and now all the whispers are, oh, well,
Speaker 1: how do we get rid of Tavon Austin? Can he
Speaker 1: be traded? Oh, he doesn't have a certain you know,
Speaker 1: you don't own a certain amount of money after this season,
Speaker 1: it's more doable after signing the ridiculous extension that he
Speaker 1: has signed, which was essentially the team saying we've created
Speaker 1: a star player, but no one else saw him as
Speaker 1: a star player. If Tavon Austin moves and you are
Speaker 1: the Rams GM, you have essentially with two first round
Speaker 1: picks on your tenure, they're already off the team. How
Speaker 1: much more time do you have in that organization? That's
Speaker 1: why I think it it lowers the honeymoon period here
Speaker 1: now with Watkins and God, it's like, okay, we gotta
Speaker 1: have Goffin Watkins do some damnit. I think I think
Speaker 1: they gotta win seven games minimum. This year and show
Speaker 1: something and be competitive where I think Snead finally runs
Speaker 1: out of time. He's had, He's had quite a bit
Speaker 1: of rope. Uh Now, now before we move on, just
Speaker 1: because it's such a seismic deal, I got to throw
Speaker 1: it over to the fantasy corner and the Mark Sessler
Speaker 1: fantasy corner. It's a dangerous place to be volcanic viewpoints.
Speaker 1: And also I forgot my mace. Yeah, just quite frankly,
Speaker 1: it's not a nice neighborhoods Mark. What is the fallout
Speaker 1: for Sammy Watkins and his fantasy value in two thousand seventeen.
Speaker 1: I think his fantasy value is listen, if he can
Speaker 1: play a full sixteen games, I could see sixty catches.
Speaker 1: It's about five touchdowns, which is in the neighborhood of
Speaker 1: what he did his first two seasons before last year's
Speaker 1: injury riddled campaign. But that that all triggers off Jared
Speaker 1: Goff not being a fundamental disaster. Yes. Question, question, is
Speaker 1: that a military tank behind you? Ah? Yes, this this
Speaker 1: part of town is hot on the North Korean radar,
Speaker 1: and so there are concerns how much of your outfit
Speaker 1: is kevlar. I'm not sure what that means, oh, Kevin
Speaker 1: am I kevlar kevlar armor. I don't wear armored because listen,
Speaker 1: a reporter just has to put themselves right into that.
Speaker 1: You want to be part of the real common man.
Speaker 1: When you're out here on the street, most of them
Speaker 1: are running. Most of them are running. So let's let's
Speaker 1: put our our windows up and drive away before we
Speaker 1: move on. Though, I know we talked a little bit
Speaker 1: about being a year of course, the a t N insider,
Speaker 1: but you're not the only one who had a little
Speaker 1: bit of a scoop earlier. This week, it's becoming more clear,
Speaker 1: and the Philadelphia Eagles trade Jordan Matthews to the Bills
Speaker 1: for a mid round pick, let's say the fourth round pick.
Speaker 1: That was Monday. That was just last show to our show,
Speaker 1: we said, make one prediction, what's going to happen in
Speaker 1: the off season? There we go. That's pretty good, bro Um.
Speaker 1: Who's whose voice? That wasn't? That was an interesting voice
Speaker 1: over that Erica? Who was It was like a weird
Speaker 1: paranormal ie randomly walking by Eric coming in off the
Speaker 1: bench early in the first quarter and uh doing a
Speaker 1: nice job so far? All right, good, good trip to
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Corner by the way, Fantasy Extravaganza coming up
Speaker 1: later this month. Finally in the news real quick, just
Speaker 1: because it's kind of a silly story at this point.
Speaker 1: Brandon Albert, the offensive lineman the Jags traded for he
Speaker 1: was holding out Um for a deal, and then he retired,
Speaker 1: and then that was in late July, and then earlier
Speaker 1: this week Albert expressed his design to return to the team.
Speaker 1: The team in turn placed him on the reserve slash
Speaker 1: retired list. Colleen and uh and then the Jaguars they
Speaker 1: just washed their hands entirely. They released the offensive tackle
Speaker 1: according to rap Sheet on Friday, put a bow on it, Colleen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was box a lot of activity for Brandon Albert
Speaker 1: for Um actually not not doing anything, but we've been
Speaker 1: talking about him a lot. It's been a weird journey
Speaker 1: for him on the team, off the team. Retired, maybe
Speaker 1: not retired. I think that he is having trouble with
Speaker 1: his decision making right now well or or what's going
Speaker 1: to happen to his bank account, and maybe that completely
Speaker 1: maybe the agent needed to give a little more information
Speaker 1: about the consequences attack right now. They can't go after
Speaker 1: his three point four million dillars. So it was a
Speaker 1: nice move for Brandon Albert. He just pretended to play again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was a three million dollars anyway. I
Speaker 1: like what Rhoda World called it, a bizarre cat and
Speaker 1: mouse between these two ridiculous entities. It's also silly, grow up,
Speaker 1: Peter Pan. You know, just you know, play out your contract,
Speaker 1: gut cut, but you know retired, No I want back in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just back your signing bonus. You'd be like, hey, guys, listen,
Speaker 1: um back, I'm feeling good. There's certain to be a
Speaker 1: certain lack of dignity involved with the process, that's all.
Speaker 1: I don't want to point fingers. You wanted more dignity
Speaker 1: involved in all of this, the branded Alberts. You were
Speaker 1: looking for dignity. You would leave the money behind if
Speaker 1: my integrity. Really, there's no way, no way. Didn't you
Speaker 1: didn't you just tell us on a recent episode that
Speaker 1: you like wandered back into attempt job that you had
Speaker 1: bolted to get your thirty paycheck. That was different, But
Speaker 1: that is of yes, that is an efficient uh turning
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Speaker 1: appreciate their home. It should maybe be mixed up a
Speaker 1: little bit, maybe tweak that they erkic. We you know,
Speaker 1: what are your first jobs? Just tweaked this copy a
Speaker 1: little bit. You got it so it reads a little better. Great,
Speaker 1: You're gonna blame Erica now? No, no, no, I'm actually saying,
Speaker 1: if she can help us out with this, you feel
Speaker 1: like she can multitause she's already shown that ability. I
Speaker 1: think yeah, I think she's a straight shooter with the
Speaker 1: upper mantagment potential. The early scouting report. All right, let's
Speaker 1: move on and talk some Thursday and Friday. Do we
Speaker 1: want to talk to West now? Already want to say
Speaker 1: that to the end of the show as well. We're
Speaker 1: gonna call We're talking to Wes. Yeah, we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: to West today. Should do it now? Yeah? He said
Speaker 1: he had some news for us. Yeah, let's do it because, uh,
Speaker 1: pull the curtain back. About five minutes before we came
Speaker 1: up here for the show, West said he had some
Speaker 1: news and he wanted to uh tell us about it
Speaker 1: on the podcast. Now we're extremely curious what that news
Speaker 1: could be. Now I want to I want to speculate here.
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope it's good news, but it could
Speaker 1: be anything. Pull the curtain back even farther, pull back
Speaker 1: a little further. I know what the news is? Everyone here?
Speaker 1: What's what's everyone? These information brokers? I got this? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do we have? What? Do I hear? West? But I'm
Speaker 1: just curious who got the school? Um My, my husband,
Speaker 1: do you? I'm John Gonzalez. John Renald Gonzalez four Mar
Speaker 1: twelve is an American sports writer. Was married NFL meda
Speaker 1: broadcaster College Wolf John who was a Piscis resides in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs. Okay, that
Speaker 1: all right? West? Are you on the line, buddy? I am.
Speaker 1: I just got out of Colleen's car with her husband. Oh,
Speaker 1: the motorized monster you were in it? I love it.
Speaker 1: I love your car. I've always wanted a deep Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fun. I really want to get to the news
Speaker 1: from Chris Westling. But why is it called the motorized monster?
Speaker 1: Because it's a it's a four door wrangler, but it's
Speaker 1: stick and so it's just like hulking down the highway,
Speaker 1: So it's a it's a beast's oppressive. Yeah, drive stick
Speaker 1: in this day of it, it's not smooth. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: bet all right? West? So you said you have some
Speaker 1: should we call it breaking news? Breaking? Alright? We got
Speaker 1: breaking Flora's yours. But so let me set the stage
Speaker 1: for you a little bit. In the past couple of months,
Speaker 1: since they found the tumor and started radiation and chemotherapy,
Speaker 1: we have no way of knowing how much the tumor
Speaker 1: has shrunk, if it's spread, how how well everything's worked.
Speaker 1: They ran set scans on me Monday, but I haven't heard,
Speaker 1: so I didn't know anything, and we ran an endoscopy today.
Speaker 1: When I came to from the propofile, which puts you under,
Speaker 1: the doctor was crying. What's in a very in a
Speaker 1: very good way. She woke me up, said, the cancer
Speaker 1: is obliterated. Whoa, oh yeah. She her job was to
Speaker 1: go in and tattoo the tumor, so the surgeon confined
Speaker 1: it and there was no tumor to tattoo. She said,
Speaker 1: so as I feel like I'm going to cry right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: were I called the paramore? She was, She had me
Speaker 1: a little missy. They used They used the word obliterated, obliterated.
Speaker 1: They also used the word you are going to go
Speaker 1: in and have surgery on Wednesday because they want to
Speaker 1: make sure nothing tiding in the walls or anything like that,
Speaker 1: and then you'll be cured. She's cured twice. That is amazing.
Speaker 1: That's the best news in the history of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. Oh my god, I'm so happy. That's
Speaker 1: the That's the greatest news ever. Like this is. This
Speaker 1: is amazing and we will be able to soon go
Speaker 1: to Hanano together and celebrate. John was talking about Nano
Speaker 1: at least seven or eight times on the way home. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's great. So I mean, where does that rank in
Speaker 1: Chris westling Lifetime good News? I mean, is there anything
Speaker 1: even approaching at I think it ranks right behind a
Speaker 1: few months ago when I found out the cancer had
Speaker 1: not spread and I wasn't going to die in the
Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, that that feels fair. That feels like
Speaker 1: a fair number one place holder. What was your when
Speaker 1: she told you that and she used the word obliterated?
Speaker 1: What went through your mind? It's amazing because so much
Speaker 1: of this has been me reading her face over the
Speaker 1: past few months. Um, when she found the tumor on
Speaker 1: the first endoscopy, there was grave concern, and she's such
Speaker 1: a good doctor, and and I could just see it
Speaker 1: on her face that she was worried. UM. And then
Speaker 1: when a few days later when we ran the test
Speaker 1: and she saw that they had not spread, Um, just
Speaker 1: the relief. And again she was in tears when she
Speaker 1: found out it hadn't spread. And I saw the same
Speaker 1: look on her face today, So I knew it was
Speaker 1: gonna be just great news. But you're still like you're
Speaker 1: coming out of the propofile which puts you under, so
Speaker 1: you're there's still a few cobwebs and I'm trying to
Speaker 1: take it all in and I see her frying but
Speaker 1: also smiling really and and like you think, worst case scenario,
Speaker 1: as poorly as I've been eating and as much kind
Speaker 1: of suffering as I've been going through the past month
Speaker 1: and a half, a lot of things into your mind,
Speaker 1: and you don't know, like how much of it is
Speaker 1: the tumor and how much of it is the radiation
Speaker 1: and the chemo like doing a number on yourselves and
Speaker 1: killing them, and you just don't know why you're suffering.
Speaker 1: So to find out that the chemo and the radiation
Speaker 1: did their job and you were suffering because they did
Speaker 1: their job and it wasn't the tumber like that, to
Speaker 1: me was such a relief. Oh my god, West, I
Speaker 1: want I wish I could give you a big hug
Speaker 1: right now. Well, John can have a set uh no
Speaker 1: this weekend that Oh my god, Wes, are you at
Speaker 1: all worried that you've rendered the rest of this podcast
Speaker 1: kind of pointless because there's no way to top that,
Speaker 1: like were I don't know how we're going to go
Speaker 1: back into talking about like the Brown's offensive line on
Speaker 1: Thursday night and the Falcons strong side linebacker situation suddenly meaningless.
Speaker 1: I was so bulliant. I just had to share my news,
Speaker 1: you know, I just had to get it out. That's awesome, awesome,
Speaker 1: awesome West. No, that is a great way to send
Speaker 1: yourself into the weekend, as I can imagine h West
Speaker 1: obliterating cancer in a big spot, the biggest spot with
Speaker 1: just a little been a help from the doctors in
Speaker 1: medicine and technology. You see it your way, I see
Speaker 1: it mine, West. Awesome, that is great news, great news
Speaker 1: for all of us. And uh, we can't wait until
Speaker 1: you knock out the surgery and then yes, Hanano's podcasts
Speaker 1: all the good life stuff. We love you, brother, love you,
Speaker 1: guys to love you. But all right, wow, oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, just end the show right. I don't even
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, we should, we should have done
Speaker 1: this at the end. I'm now an emotional rap, like
Speaker 1: my instinct was there at the end. I didn't know
Speaker 1: the news, so I didn't know it was gonna be
Speaker 1: that great. That's great, John texted me before, and announcement
Speaker 1: at the back is really what's gonna suffer in comparison.
Speaker 1: That's true too. Well. All the people that fast forwarded
Speaker 1: just to hear that, and I missed this announcement and
Speaker 1: tie up bank they get banked allright, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: just hearing West though, tell that story like really got me.
Speaker 1: Great news for the local bar scene. West is back,
Speaker 1: He's ready to spend some cash. Taverns across by still
Speaker 1: a shuddering over the past like three months or so,
Speaker 1: but no business is about to pick up in a
Speaker 1: big way. So yes, that is great news. And let's
Speaker 1: move forward with the show. Listen to be imagine it
Speaker 1: was bad news. We have good news. There's no reason
Speaker 1: to stop the show. We'll just keep rolling. But now
Speaker 1: we're all happy. If anything it can make, it makes
Speaker 1: the preseason more exciting to talk about, because that's what began,
Speaker 1: uh on Thursday night. You know you count the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game. I don't count the Fame part of
Speaker 1: the preseason. I didn't really buy into it as part
Speaker 1: of the preseason. You didn't buy into the beginning of
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame weekend. Li'sen a great win by the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: really squeaker of a victory over the Arizona Cardinals. But
Speaker 1: now we're come back, come from behind time come back
Speaker 1: in the of Fame game. But I don't care. I
Speaker 1: want to get into the Week one of the preseason proper. Uh.
Speaker 1: So let's go through the games that have been played.
Speaker 1: There were I don't know about seven on Friday, on Thursday,
Speaker 1: and um and one on Wednesday. Let's start. I guess
Speaker 1: we'll just start. Let's just go on. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: the Wednesday game first, because there were some good things
Speaker 1: to take away from that. It was the Texans against
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, and uh, everyone wanted to see what
Speaker 1: happened at the quarterback situation. Greg get us going there
Speaker 1: with what you saw behind center for the Texans. Of course,
Speaker 1: the situation Tom Savage. People think that or he's been
Speaker 1: positioned as this guy that could be a real starter
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, the team's first round pick. But I think
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson just showed it and confirmed everything that you've
Speaker 1: heard about him in training camp that he's a little
Speaker 1: ahead of pace, that a lot of the things that
Speaker 1: you were excited about in terms of, you know, to
Speaker 1: use a terrible word, poise and his decision making just
Speaker 1: kind of looked like, all right, he's ready to play
Speaker 1: some NFL quarterback. Wasn't wasn't perfect, but He was fun
Speaker 1: to watch, like you had those superside you know, those
Speaker 1: Alex Smith comparisons going to the draft, and you can
Speaker 1: kind of see that watching him play. He seems like
Speaker 1: he's gonna be ready to play sooner than later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he absolutely will play this season. The idea
Speaker 1: that that's not going to happen, even it maybe doesn't
Speaker 1: happen at the start, but there's not Tom Savage. Then
Speaker 1: nothing happened with that Texans offense against the Panther starters.
Speaker 1: They Carolina took Houston to town early on. Watson came in.
Speaker 1: He was not facing the starting defense, but I thought
Speaker 1: he extended plays well and he had a nice connection
Speaker 1: with Flipper Anderson's son, Dres. I did not know that historically.
Speaker 1: I I did some research on this guy and found
Speaker 1: that out when I watch Humble Breck, when I watched
Speaker 1: Tom Savage. I'm just not a humble break. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I did not innately know that. It's good that you
Speaker 1: did the research. Please kind of looks like every other
Speaker 1: kind of I don't want to be mean, but kind
Speaker 1: of stiff backup mediocre quarterback you've ever seen, kind of
Speaker 1: a statue in the pot Savage kind of a statue
Speaker 1: in the pocket, maybe holds a ball too long. Uh,
Speaker 1: maybe could hit the pass every once in a while.
Speaker 1: And then so he leaves the game. And then and
Speaker 1: then the rookie comes in and Watson, I think to him,
Speaker 1: to me, I think it's real chance he's gonna start
Speaker 1: Week one. Just I don't you don't want to make
Speaker 1: snap judgments, but the fact that he came in and
Speaker 1: the way he was able to move in the pocket,
Speaker 1: of the way he was able to make plays happen.
Speaker 1: I just thought there was such a big difference to me, uh,
Speaker 1: in seeing how how how the offense just seemed to
Speaker 1: be more lively with Watson behind center over Savage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a little bit more of a pop in
Speaker 1: the offense when you watched it with Watson. I think
Speaker 1: they were able to do a little bit some different
Speaker 1: things just because of his athleticism. Also, I felt he
Speaker 1: had the ability to he was cool with throwing the
Speaker 1: ball away when there was nothing there, And I think
Speaker 1: that that shows kind of that shows his mature important too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And when I watched with Tom Savage, it was just
Speaker 1: kind of a boring vanilla. Yeah, but it's also you
Speaker 1: know he was like nine for eleven. It's like we
Speaker 1: we always talked about preseason sample size. It's like normally
Speaker 1: a football player plays a whole game and you make
Speaker 1: the value. This is two or three series and one
Speaker 1: of them ended in a touchdown. It's like there was
Speaker 1: I drew nothing from Tom Savage's performance in particular, but
Speaker 1: it was nice to see Deshaun Watson kind of confirm
Speaker 1: all the good things you've heard about it. I really
Speaker 1: doubt he's gonna start Week one. I thought Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 1: look good. He looked sort of you know, you saw
Speaker 1: little bits of what we've been hearing to some degree
Speaker 1: and break free or anything. Uh. Demir Bird looks like
Speaker 1: he could be potentially a deep threat for the Panthers
Speaker 1: and fill that slot for them. I was stunned to
Speaker 1: find out that Joe Webb is still playing quarterback. I thought,
Speaker 1: that isn't that amazing years But he went to receiver
Speaker 1: for a while and then I think it was last
Speaker 1: year he settled back into like special teams captain slash
Speaker 1: third string quarterback, which is badass. I mean, it's eighth
Speaker 1: year in his career to carve out a career like
Speaker 1: that if you had said that when he was the
Speaker 1: most random playoff starter. I think probably of this decade
Speaker 1: when he was told he was going to start thirty
Speaker 1: minutes before the game and had that terrible performance, It's
Speaker 1: like he's still going strong making that money. But Derek Anderson,
Speaker 1: I think when we talked about our backup QB rankings,
Speaker 1: maybe even knock him up, but not for two. You
Speaker 1: want to take him up, Derek Anderson, just you put
Speaker 1: him in there. He just makes things happen, you know
Speaker 1: he I know, Calvin Benjamin, he brings back Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he looked great. Derrick Anderson brings back glory memories for
Speaker 1: you of the two thousand seven season. Well, that season
Speaker 1: went very south at the end, but there were some
Speaker 1: incredible moments yet. Yeah, Kelvin Benjamin, Yeah he looked good.
Speaker 1: He he lost twenty pounds, by the way, since that
Speaker 1: spring camp practice where he showed up and and Ron
Speaker 1: Rivera said that he was looking heavy. Yeah, he's down.
Speaker 1: He was in the mid two sixties when he reported
Speaker 1: this spring. He's playing in the two forties now. And
Speaker 1: he made a nice catch in traffic for a touchdown
Speaker 1: and kind of looked like maybe the two thousand thirteen,
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin, a little bit you were on on on
Speaker 1: you know Twitter at calling out the was it the
Speaker 1: belly truths that you're down on belly truth I'm getting
Speaker 1: the belly truthers gotta And by the way, just so
Speaker 1: you know, Greg uh h Butker hit a fifty one
Speaker 1: yard field goal with four to play in this game,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't enough as the Panthers won seventeen. Are
Speaker 1: you tracking that kicker about to get that scored? Big?
Speaker 1: So why on earth do we need to score? The
Speaker 1: Panthers improve to one to know in the preseason Texans
Speaker 1: ball and one heavily. Please let's move on. And by
Speaker 1: the way, I I a shout out despite you know,
Speaker 1: Gregg taking shots at me about my insider status. Shout
Speaker 1: out to both Greg and West uh for their right
Speaker 1: ups on Wednesday and Thursday, the winners and losers. You
Speaker 1: gotta check that. Check it out because you're gonna learn
Speaker 1: a lot. See see what we learned. It's just a
Speaker 1: compliment of your work. I'm not looking for anything back.
Speaker 1: Well I'm sure he is, so you better be. You
Speaker 1: better deliver something back verbally before the show wraps. Um
Speaker 1: let's move on to the Friday games, Gregg, since you
Speaker 1: or Thursday games, since you uh did write the what
Speaker 1: we learned? Where do we want to start? Uh? May
Speaker 1: be in order of what jumped out to the most
Speaker 1: on The big story to me was Mitchell Drabinsky because
Speaker 1: the last most people remember him was getting fill ad
Speaker 1: on draft Day by all the people who thought the
Speaker 1: Bears were insane for trading him up. And this is
Speaker 1: a guy we've barely seen play college, and we haven't
Speaker 1: heard too much good or bad in camp, and you
Speaker 1: watch him play on Thursday night, and he was the
Speaker 1: most memorable thing on Thursday Night. I'm not saying he
Speaker 1: was exactly like Dak Prescott a year ago, but he
Speaker 1: basically had a perfect opening statement. Like literally, they had
Speaker 1: no points and just about no first downs in six
Speaker 1: drives before he came in, and he comes in, touchdown, touchdown,
Speaker 1: field goal. He didn't have an incompletion, you know, for
Speaker 1: his first eleven throws, and three or four of those throws,
Speaker 1: especially late in that third drive, the field goal drive.
Speaker 1: There's a third and eight teen where he gets hit
Speaker 1: after the play perfect. There's a couple of throw was
Speaker 1: right on the run, uh, and it's just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a guy that looks like a guy who
Speaker 1: should be drafted in the top five, who's got some talent,
Speaker 1: fun to watch, and suddenly the Bears look. You know,
Speaker 1: there was such a stink on the Bears around this
Speaker 1: whole thing. Tom Pellicero wrote an interesting piece. He that
Speaker 1: that people have started when this happened with Dak Prescott,
Speaker 1: the league executives around the league would start texting him
Speaker 1: saying like this Prescott, guys for real. That that started
Speaker 1: to happen with Trabisky, the people saying he looks in control.
Speaker 1: And there were a couple of plays with him over
Speaker 1: and over. It wasn't like run for your life in
Speaker 1: the wrong direction. It's step up in the pocket, throw
Speaker 1: your throw the ball, and it's on point, throw after throw.
Speaker 1: The accuracy that they talked about was there. There was
Speaker 1: a play where he had to spin into through through
Speaker 1: defenders into a wide open space and the play broke down.
Speaker 1: He spun around and then just ran for a first down.
Speaker 1: He's he's good on his feet. I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: one game, but like I I was expecting a disaster
Speaker 1: from Trabinsky. Yeah, the football concent too because you can't.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna do I'm just gonna say it's on
Speaker 1: my radar a little bit. I'm not gonna cast any
Speaker 1: shame on him yet. Actually, but if if you're gonna
Speaker 1: all of a sudden come around and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden love Mitch Drabinsky and be like, oh wow, the
Speaker 1: Bears are doing it. They've really hit on something specially here. Well,
Speaker 1: you better have me a kulpa for burying this team
Speaker 1: for three months without ever seeing the kid take a
Speaker 1: sne us in the room. Should well, but it's too early.
Speaker 1: It's too early to say either way. I think DJ
Speaker 1: points us out every Daniel Jeremiah to point this out
Speaker 1: every preseason scouts should never start bragging or taken out
Speaker 1: from preseason performances. There's a lot of like, oh, look,
Speaker 1: they were right. It's like, no, I mean, no one
Speaker 1: knows if blowing over over Blake Bortles. We're all saying
Speaker 1: that we've found like the child at Ben Roethlisberger. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like, I think this Bears fans can be excited like, okay, hey,
Speaker 1: it's this was fun. I was flying back from the
Speaker 1: East coast, so this is the only game that I
Speaker 1: got to watch live, so I watched it pretty closely,
Speaker 1: and I was really excited when Rubinsky came in. At
Speaker 1: one point he completed ten straight passes. And this comes
Speaker 1: after Mike Glennon had a rough start to this game.
Speaker 1: He had to pick six and then there was a
Speaker 1: high snap. I mean, Glennon is a pretty tall dude.
Speaker 1: He's like six said no what I'm saying two seconds three,
Speaker 1: And in between those two events we were on him too.
Speaker 1: I mean the contrast is what we were talking about. Bessie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Rubinsky came in and all of a sudden it
Speaker 1: turned around. He looked good. And then also there um
Speaker 1: Tyreek Cohen there the running back, had a lot of
Speaker 1: really good plays. I mean he played a little bit
Speaker 1: of everything. He was returning punts, he was carrying the
Speaker 1: ball well. And Adam Shaheen the tight end. I really
Speaker 1: liked him to Glen should should win the starting job,
Speaker 1: you think, at least in week one. But he has
Speaker 1: to be better than he was obviously in this game.
Speaker 1: And if Rabis plays lights out all season and puts
Speaker 1: them in a position where they might they might convince
Speaker 1: themselves to just bail on this. Glenn and thing entirely well,
Speaker 1: there was this belief that, oh, you know, Trobisky is
Speaker 1: the one quarterback that there's no way he'll play this
Speaker 1: season even if felt well Mahomes, yes, but Robinsky was
Speaker 1: packed into that too, that yes, they're sold on Glenn
Speaker 1: and Glenn Glennon is Glennon could be yanked within within
Speaker 1: without the first game of the season. Honestly, Robinsky is
Speaker 1: playing really against like week three Mike Glennon right now,
Speaker 1: because if he just looks good all month, then it
Speaker 1: just makes that least so short. You never know. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you look good, this good all three weeks and
Speaker 1: Glenn and struggled all three weeks, you have to think
Speaker 1: about Fox said John Fox said that one game is
Speaker 1: not gonna change his depth chart. So fear not Mark
Speaker 1: Sanchez fans. He you're still probably ahead of Drabinsky on
Speaker 1: the depth, which is stupid. One of my favorite Greg
Speaker 1: is ms is he really doesn't like Mark Sanche. It's
Speaker 1: not true. Don't play the old veteran in front of
Speaker 1: Siskyo for that matter. I don't, Yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't even disagree with you, but I do like, you'll
Speaker 1: never miss an opportunity to take. I knew you would
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, my boy Mark Sanchez who went into
Speaker 1: Foxboro in January two thousand eleven and one a damn
Speaker 1: playoff game. Yeah, keep rewatching that. That's almost a decade ago.
Speaker 1: Oh you should talk. You're watching your Brown's games from
Speaker 1: one in front of the television. Is Brown's losses a party?
Speaker 1: Nor am I telling you? Wait? Nor am I telling
Speaker 1: you during a podcast? How great like Webster slaughter was?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not used at the softball at the
Speaker 1: softball celebration, true or false? The Drive was being played
Speaker 1: on at the house. It was, I mean, we were outside,
Speaker 1: but then we came in and it was on. Yes,
Speaker 1: and all right, let's just move on getting killed for
Speaker 1: that in my own house. Let's move on. And by
Speaker 1: the way, you guys should know that D'Angel Henderson's forty
Speaker 1: one yard touchdown run with just one forty nine t
Speaker 1: play lifted the book is not a person. We should
Speaker 1: mention it. Paxson Lynch did not look it. I think
Speaker 1: making decisions took a while, and it really was a
Speaker 1: a repeat of all the camp practice reports that we've
Speaker 1: Broncos want looks fine, looks they want Paxton Lynch to
Speaker 1: look the way that Trabisky did. So that's where it
Speaker 1: can be a little different, Like you'd love to see that.
Speaker 1: Um let's reset the decks here. Six games to still
Speaker 1: talk about. That's the show. So I'm not saying we
Speaker 1: should not say things that that aren't our mind. But
Speaker 1: let's remember those are the two quarterbacks. Good hosting, all right,
Speaker 1: Let's I don't I would love to just stay here
Speaker 1: all day, but I know we can't, so let's move
Speaker 1: on and talk about Uh, Mark, why don't you throw
Speaker 1: one out there, Colleen, you're on deck? How about little
Speaker 1: Saints Brown's action? All right? I thought, when it comes
Speaker 1: to a Cleveland's defense played one of the better preseason
Speaker 1: games I've seen them playing a long time, the Saint's
Speaker 1: Brown's game in two thousand seventeen, or like that's your
Speaker 1: trick bringing up some Jets game that I watched the
Speaker 1: Shocks or Daily is seven years ago. Give me a break,
Speaker 1: go ahead. The When it comes to another quarterback of note,
Speaker 1: I think that Deshaun Kaiser absolutely outplayed Brock Ostwaller. Cleveland's
Speaker 1: starting offense under Oswiler was was a stillborn operation. It
Speaker 1: was a disaster, and you know Kaiser. Initially, not a
Speaker 1: lot happened for I love everything about this place. I
Speaker 1: love being a Brown and I'm just very thankful to
Speaker 1: be here. Well, he's lucky he's there because I'm not
Speaker 1: sure where he's going to be on that depth chart
Speaker 1: come the season because Kaiser, again it's a preseason game,
Speaker 1: he was not facing starters. Impressive night. I thought he
Speaker 1: he showed number one. His arm strength is something that
Speaker 1: I can't really think of a Brown's quarterback having in
Speaker 1: a long long time. Look like Big Ben. I mean,
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, that's against third or four streak.
Speaker 1: Give me a break. It doesn't matter who you're against.
Speaker 1: When you're dodging people in the pocket and then pump
Speaker 1: faking a guy and owing at sixty five yards, that's
Speaker 1: his talent. Yeah, it was not nearly as clean as
Speaker 1: as what we saw from Trabisky, but I think that
Speaker 1: he's a different type of quarterback number one, and he
Speaker 1: he moved that offense to down the down the field
Speaker 1: multiple times at the end of the game. It was
Speaker 1: a weird site for a Brown's fantasy. It was the
Speaker 1: same thing when I was watching the Texans, same thing,
Speaker 1: same experience in my mind, which was all right. They
Speaker 1: got the guy starting who was completely uninspiring and it
Speaker 1: is just another guy. And then you've got the kid
Speaker 1: who's making things happen and looks exciting, and you want
Speaker 1: to make sure you bring these guys along at the
Speaker 1: right patient want to throw him into quickly. But if
Speaker 1: you're the Browns, you have to be thinking of yourself.
Speaker 1: If this guy continues to make wild plays, then Brock
Speaker 1: Oswelder is gonna continue to be Brock Ostwalder. Do you
Speaker 1: just go for it? In week one, Hugh Jackson wants
Speaker 1: him to be their quarterback of the future. Today, I
Speaker 1: don't know what will happen. Well, one quick note, Alvin Kamar,
Speaker 1: I thought for the Saints looked awesome, shredded Cleveland's defense,
Speaker 1: and kim Irvin Cleveland's first round draft pick from a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I honestly think he's a cut candidate.
Speaker 1: He was an absolute mess. You can't have Brock at
Speaker 1: left house, can't have Brock starting games. It's just so.
Speaker 1: It would just be so depressing when he's worked him
Speaker 1: staff out of the games. After the games, he's saying
Speaker 1: things like this could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: in the history of the game, no ball has ever
Speaker 1: been completed that was thrown out of bounds. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: miss this guy when he's gone. That was a joke,
Speaker 1: like that was his version joke or something. But he
Speaker 1: also was pointing out that he couldn't throw the ball
Speaker 1: in bounce, which isn't a good things problem. Congratulations Mark
Speaker 1: for what that's a That was a fun game to
Speaker 1: watch as the brownsman, wasn't it. You've got a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I I mean, I honestly and well, I don't know
Speaker 1: if either of those things are true. It was it
Speaker 1: was fun to some degree. I don't know if I
Speaker 1: have a quarterback yet, Conny, I was saying, to move
Speaker 1: on to the next game. No, I was just gonna say,
Speaker 1: Myles Garrett looked as good as advertised, not that anybody
Speaker 1: was expecting him to do anything less, but he disrupted
Speaker 1: some plays and and look good out there. That kids
Speaker 1: got a motor. Alright, you're right, um, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: with the Bills and the Vikings. All right, bills, bikes.
Speaker 1: What is your big takeaway? So with that, I just
Speaker 1: thought it was funny because Tyrod Taylor, he the first
Speaker 1: three passes were to Sammy Watkins all completions, and I
Speaker 1: feel like they were setting this up for the trade, like, hey,
Speaker 1: look at Sammy's healthy, he's feeling good, he's catching balls.
Speaker 1: I think they were. I think they were exactly when
Speaker 1: they did it too. I think I think they obviously
Speaker 1: had worked on this trade. And Jordan Matthews got a
Speaker 1: lot of targets. I know that that was Biden so
Speaker 1: sad as Bills fans were going crazy to watch Sammy Watkins,
Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, So it was that. And then McCoy's backup,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams. He he looked really good too on some
Speaker 1: of those run familiar name shout out Spicy Rack. Now
Speaker 1: is this guy spicy? He left with the hamstring injury.
Speaker 1: I don't know how serious, fine, but he was running
Speaker 1: well in Spice Rack. And when Spice Arc had his
Speaker 1: complete talking about obliteration and obliteration of his potential podcast
Speaker 1: career when he elta down last year on our airwaves,
Speaker 1: he did manage to sputter out that Jonathan Williams was
Speaker 1: a guy to watch on the Bills or I guess
Speaker 1: he wasn't on the Bills yet. Was he on the
Speaker 1: Bills at that point? Was this a pre draft, spicy
Speaker 1: period draft. It doesn't really matter. He likes he likes
Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams. Lets see if we see more from you
Speaker 1: look at yeah, because that that position is pretty thin
Speaker 1: and that's a run first offense. So I mean he
Speaker 1: looked good. I am a concern about Sam Bradford got
Speaker 1: sacked big, He got destroyed twice in two series. And
Speaker 1: that line which was such an issue last year, it
Speaker 1: was injury related to some degree. I wonder if it's
Speaker 1: that much better, um little housekeeping real quick. Jordan Payton
Speaker 1: touchdown pass from Kaiser. The Browns won that game one
Speaker 1: and over the b and that we had moved on
Speaker 1: and but you just have to get that score and
Speaker 1: get score. And in this game that we're talking about now,
Speaker 1: Desmond Lewis is one yard touchdown reception from Nathan Peterman
Speaker 1: which was followed by an Austin reg how kick gave
Speaker 1: the Vikings of seventeen ten victory over so a tough
Speaker 1: couple of days. We're going extra points now, added any
Speaker 1: other any other thoughts from that game before we move on.
Speaker 1: I think Dalvin Cook is an interesting pass catching back.
Speaker 1: It wasn't totally sold on him running the ball. But
Speaker 1: I just want to see more moving on Greg throws
Speaker 1: the game. We got four more to get to do
Speaker 1: you need help here they are, I'll do it. I'll
Speaker 1: do a one quick point off of Eagles Packers, which
Speaker 1: is that Time Montgomery had reportedly had fumbling troubles throughout
Speaker 1: training camp. Has been some buzz that Jamal Williams from
Speaker 1: Sydney's Zone b y U was coming on fast and
Speaker 1: maybe taking some carries away, and Time Montgomery lost the
Speaker 1: fumble on his second carry of the preseason, so you
Speaker 1: would think this is starting to be a problem for
Speaker 1: a guy who also is known not to be too
Speaker 1: great at pass protection. So that's I love watching Time Montgomery,
Speaker 1: but that's a little bit of a caution for all
Speaker 1: the fantasy buzz that he's getting. I think that's fair.
Speaker 1: Dark Barnett also looked really good in that game, solely
Speaker 1: as soon as I came in, he bombarded me with highlights.
Speaker 1: Go to my Twitter look at this, But he did.
Speaker 1: He did really look good. You know it's August. You
Speaker 1: know it's August. When Matt mcgloyan throws the ball forty
Speaker 1: two times, it wasn't odd for less than five yards
Speaker 1: per temp by boy So Maddie not really lighting it up.
Speaker 1: Nine Packers victory. Uh. Let's take a look at Atlanta Miami,
Speaker 1: Atlanta Miami. It looks like Dolphins second rounder ray Kwon
Speaker 1: McMillan his knee injury. Uh, it appeared to be pretty serious.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened early, and I think he
Speaker 1: has a torn to a c L if I'm not mistaken. Yes,
Speaker 1: he is expected to miss the season with the torn
Speaker 1: a c L. So that's that's a big tough news
Speaker 1: for him. Not overall for the game so far that team,
Speaker 1: but the position that could be a weakness. Plus, you know,
Speaker 1: named after kuon the chef for real interest. I don't
Speaker 1: know that for sure. Oh, I think I think so.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure you A. I looked it up at
Speaker 1: the time and I was like, WHOA is he named
Speaker 1: after ray Que? And I think the answers. Yes. We
Speaker 1: saw Matt Ryan for one series for the Falcons and
Speaker 1: uh three for three thirty two yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: I think they converted to DeVonta Freeman on a fourth
Speaker 1: and one for a touchdown, so they got the offense
Speaker 1: in there. They do their work. Matt Moore one attempt
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins. I guess that surprised me a little bit.
Speaker 1: But they're trying to get a look at their a
Speaker 1: lot of Brandon Dowdy. Last night, there's a big Dowdy party.
Speaker 1: Tough week for Jalen Collins, got suspended ten games and
Speaker 1: then gave up a ninety nine and touchdown to like
Speaker 1: a third Stringcume. Not great. More bad news for the
Speaker 1: Falcons they fell twenty mammy, outscoring the Falcons thirteen points
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarters. That something, Hey, this could be
Speaker 1: a tough out your games, dan Quinn, this could be
Speaker 1: a tough one to bounce back from. All right. Also,
Speaker 1: U around the league, let's talk about the Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 1: in New England A pitch. Tell me a little bit
Speaker 1: what you saw from Blake Bordles, Greg Rosenthal. Not much
Speaker 1: good or bad. He wasn't in long enough. It was
Speaker 1: just kind of there. It would be my my Boardles assessment.
Speaker 1: And then Jimmy g I learned that some of the
Speaker 1: Patriots homers who are kind of like it was a
Speaker 1: sponsorship slash announcer. I was confused what was going on.
Speaker 1: He's called game Day Garoppolo. Apparently he's okay in practice,
Speaker 1: but put him on game day and Jimmy's g's gonna inspire.
Speaker 1: But Dion Lewis look good. How about Leonard Fournette, Man,
Speaker 1: I'm into some Leonard Fournette. Yeah, he thinks he's gonna
Speaker 1: lead the league in rushing. He's a load. I mean
Speaker 1: they that coach wants to run the ball like roughly
Speaker 1: fifty seven times a game. So it's it feels possibly
Speaker 1: and they and they did in that game. They ran
Speaker 1: the ball twice as much as they threw it. They
Speaker 1: were they were using on fourth down. He plod right
Speaker 1: through the Patriots like an eight yard game? Was Rex
Speaker 1: Ryan Gino Smith esque in that Monday night game? Eighteen
Speaker 1: pass attempts for the entire game in a preseason game.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if Stuck Road sending messages in
Speaker 1: Week one of the preseason about they scored thirty one?
Speaker 1: They did? I think that was more than enough. What
Speaker 1: about Austin car That's true, another nifty White for New
Speaker 1: England to go up and down the field with undrafted
Speaker 1: and he made some really good catches he's been making,
Speaker 1: Like the Patriots fans are convinced this is like the
Speaker 1: next West Welker and he did, you know, having probably
Speaker 1: the play of the night, I would say was his
Speaker 1: touchdown catches skying. It was amazing. Yeah. Um, but guess what.
Speaker 1: Guess what, it wasn't enough because the Jaguars held on
Speaker 1: for a thirty one four victory over the Paths. So
Speaker 1: the Paths fall to and one clearly dropping a home game,
Speaker 1: which is significant. West predicted they would fall in the preseason.
Speaker 1: He was not wrong. That's true. That's true. And by
Speaker 1: the way, it just encourages me. Now there will be
Speaker 1: at least fourteen listeners of the show that are gonna
Speaker 1: think that I'm being serious about the scores. Uh, well,
Speaker 1: you're right, very seriously, you are the New England a
Speaker 1: bad start to this season. Only Washington in Baltimore. I
Speaker 1: call it the Battle of the Beltway, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: much of a battle. The Ravens with three win cruising
Speaker 1: to a victory. And if you're again, if you're still
Speaker 1: on the Kaepernick watch, which seems kind of to be
Speaker 1: an exhausting task, uh here in the Ravens nest. Uh.
Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett again does not look like a competent quarterback
Speaker 1: on any level. Um completed half Hiss passes fifty eight
Speaker 1: yards about three yards per attempt. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know what else when at one point
Speaker 1: the Ravens have to say to themselves are starting quarterback
Speaker 1: has a back injury. Uh, And those things can crop
Speaker 1: up at any time, especially when people start getting hit.
Speaker 1: Mr Flacco. We gotta get somebody else in there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, it seems like a place Kaepernick should land.
Speaker 1: Remember it was supposed to be three to six weeks
Speaker 1: for Flacco from right from the time of the injury,
Speaker 1: which was mid to early July. We're now in mid
Speaker 1: to early August, so it's been a solid month and
Speaker 1: he's not practiced at all. One thing in that game,
Speaker 1: I mean the Redskins Kirk Cousins nearly throws a pick
Speaker 1: right out of the gate to Eric Weddle, gets hammered
Speaker 1: on a sack. Later on, this team could not run
Speaker 1: the ball against Baltimore. Their offensive line got completely controlled
Speaker 1: by the Ravens from start to finish two point two
Speaker 1: yards per carry. Rob Kelly got destroyed. None of these
Speaker 1: guys that the Redskins were so out of sink and
Speaker 1: in a Washington Post writer noted that their camp has
Speaker 1: been very luxurious, very kind of easy going and low key,
Speaker 1: and they kind of called him out and said, time
Speaker 1: to turn it around. Cupcake. You don't want to get cupcake. Hey,
Speaker 1: numbers don't lie. Three, I mean toughen up. Small subplot,
Speaker 1: I know, we gotta go. Scott mcgluwen has a Twitter
Speaker 1: account which I highly recompen. It's great and very interact.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite subplots is he he does not
Speaker 1: miss an opportunity to talk about Matt Jones as a
Speaker 1: future over and over and over on his Twitter an
Speaker 1: get Matt Jones on the field. He's gonna be a star.
Speaker 1: I asked him a question. He did not respond, Well,
Speaker 1: I've been aid you ask don't give up, keep firing away.
Speaker 1: It was Kaiser related. I believe it was like at
Speaker 1: one in the morning, it's that you have a good
Speaker 1: relationship with Bernie Kozar. Now that's a lot of effort
Speaker 1: on your part and eventually very organic. Actually was it
Speaker 1: very organic? It wasn't like at the tweets every day
Speaker 1: to Bernie until you no, just completely sort of a
Speaker 1: natural human friendship. I thought you guys might be close
Speaker 1: to actually like grabbing a beer well, roughly two thousand
Speaker 1: miles away. But outside of that, yes, it's a problem.
Speaker 1: Uh So the rest of the games are coming up
Speaker 1: on Saturday and Sunday, Tonight, Friday to Friday as well.
Speaker 1: We keep on getting the days mixed up, a lot
Speaker 1: of games. Yeah, three games today, and you know that
Speaker 1: the Lions bring up the rear. Uh they're the last
Speaker 1: team and it was the Cults to to start the preseason.
Speaker 1: Connected outs people the old Lions taking some naps under
Speaker 1: the tree in the jungle. Is that what's happening? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad they're actually on the week one schedule. Put
Speaker 1: it that way. No, you really sniff this one out.
Speaker 1: I know, I know you have an issue with their
Speaker 1: training camp schedule and how they've started kind they float
Speaker 1: whenever they felt Okay, I'm with you, I'm with you,
Speaker 1: okay you and are you involved in this as well?
Speaker 1: I pointed out that their preseason finale was Sunday because
Speaker 1: that should remind Dan they weren't allowed to go to
Speaker 1: training campus earlier some other team. I think Lions fans
Speaker 1: would get on board with this. How about show some
Speaker 1: efforts start winning some games? Please? Yeah, thank you, Mark,
Speaker 1: But one playoff wins. Oh, check that box, check that box.
Speaker 1: It's going on. I don't know. All right, So that's
Speaker 1: the preseason talk for today before we get out of here. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's been teased, it's been promised. Um, big announcement. It's
Speaker 1: a big one, all right, So I think West already
Speaker 1: got that honor today. But well it's not the biggest announcement.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a pretty big announcement still. In fact,
Speaker 1: now that you think about it, maybe Wes, we should
Speaker 1: have used this music on West. Look you do sometimes
Speaker 1: I had no idea. All right, here we go. Here's
Speaker 1: the big announcement. We've been talking about the um subreddit,
Speaker 1: the big five thousand announcement, and uh, the five thousand
Speaker 1: subscriber on the subreddit, we wanted to give him a prize, uh,
Speaker 1: but then we realized there was no way to tell
Speaker 1: who the five thousand subscriber was. Uh. Kind of failed there,
Speaker 1: and then it swelled to over six thousand. Now, so
Speaker 1: you know what we're gonna do. We're gonna do a contest.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a contest that everyone on the subreddit could
Speaker 1: potentially be involved with everyone on it. You don't have
Speaker 1: to be in the first five thousand. You don't have
Speaker 1: to be the first person or the six thousand person.
Speaker 1: You can be anybody out there. You're gonna be anybody,
Speaker 1: and these are This is how we're gonna do it.
Speaker 1: Each of the heroes are going to pick ten names
Speaker 1: from the subred to ten handles from the sub subreddit
Speaker 1: and at random or anyway you want. Really, you guys
Speaker 1: can tweet us if you want to be on our
Speaker 1: our team. Okay, um, yeah, yeah you can. You can
Speaker 1: do a um basic completely on chance, just step duck
Speaker 1: in there and grab names or you could you know,
Speaker 1: pick people that you like or comments you're like, oh
Speaker 1: that person deserves it. Uh, this music is more or
Speaker 1: confusing to my brain than actual You can send us sifts. Yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: where was I? So each of us will pick ten
Speaker 1: user names, ten handles until we have fifty, so the
Speaker 1: four of us here and West, of course, of those fifty,
Speaker 1: they're chosen, we will now then we will then take
Speaker 1: those names, jumble them up, and then have a basically
Speaker 1: a draft on her and uh the first person obviously
Speaker 1: that's up will then be asked onto the show to
Speaker 1: do a little around the NFL podcast Slash NFL trivia, UM,
Speaker 1: four questions, you gotta get all four right, and it's
Speaker 1: a mixture again of NFL trivia, end of podcast history trivia. UM,
Speaker 1: the first person and we'll keep going until we find someone.
Speaker 1: It could be the first person gets four in a
Speaker 1: row and they're the winner. Or hell, it could go
Speaker 1: to person person. We would have to take it down
Speaker 1: the drawing potentially hopefully not. That would be terrible. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if we were doing that weekly and this this is
Speaker 1: already on Greg's right, right, but no, it's not that
Speaker 1: that would take us into the two thou eighteen season,
Speaker 1: which seems a bit much. That would be terrible. But
Speaker 1: part of this is recounting on you the listeners to
Speaker 1: be okay at trivia and things of that nature. But
Speaker 1: coming up with the questions we all worked out okay. Um,
Speaker 1: but so yeah, we'll we'll we'll go through and then
Speaker 1: the winner, first person to get four questions right once
Speaker 1: you get on the air, UM, we'll get the grand prize.
Speaker 1: Grand prize. We're still working out what the grand prize is.
Speaker 1: We're going to try to make it something could be
Speaker 1: sexy though, could be sexy, could be highly underwhelming. We're
Speaker 1: working on the details of that right now. But this
Speaker 1: is going on. It's not gonna start yet. There are meetings, corpo, conversations,
Speaker 1: phone trying. It's genuinely happening. So how do you get involved? Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm not on the subreddit? How do you know I
Speaker 1: want to be involved? Well, figure it out, bro or lady.
Speaker 1: Sign up for the subreddit. Anybody can do it. You
Speaker 1: can still get in right now. So, uh, we'll be
Speaker 1: doing the drawing at some point, uh, in the new
Speaker 1: near future, I would believe. So if you are interested
Speaker 1: and potentially being on the show and win winning the
Speaker 1: grand prize, uh, subreddit grand prize, then sign up for
Speaker 1: the subreddit and then maybe, just maybe you'll be on
Speaker 1: the airwaves there. Can I submit myself? Cannot? Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't know what the prize is. You would have to
Speaker 1: renounce your hero rights to do so. Okay, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like a Superman. Maybe you'd be fine doing that too,
Speaker 1: So that's no, no, no, I won't remember in Superman too,
Speaker 1: when Superman renounced his superpowers for love, he made that decision.
Speaker 1: You could do something similar, got punched out in an
Speaker 1: It could be coming. Colleen's got a lot of jobs
Speaker 1: coming up with this two thousand seventeen season. Her star
Speaker 1: is rising. It might it might be eclipsing this little
Speaker 1: studio here. No way, might be. I'm just like a
Speaker 1: new face of NFL network basically to our left. This
Speaker 1: might be in the studio my favorite thing I do here. Well,
Speaker 1: we we love to have you here, Kenny bugs Um,
Speaker 1: all right, so there you go. It was. It was
Speaker 1: a combo like like Connie Box versatile, you know, tiny Fox.
Speaker 1: All right, all right, everyone else is on board with us. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, before we go, Oh, okay, go ahead, No,
Speaker 1: that was it. Before we go. I just want to
Speaker 1: say that I was really really close to ordering a
Speaker 1: clown to the Shield celebration party. But there were two
Speaker 1: things that held me back. One, I was about to
Speaker 1: get on a flight, and I'm I was afraid of
Speaker 1: going down clown like wormholes, a little bit rabbit holes,
Speaker 1: because like it is a little bit creepy. And also
Speaker 1: I don't know who's tracking my stuff, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, if like they see a bunch of like
Speaker 1: weird clown searches, like all of that comes out, that's weird.
Speaker 1: And second, and more importantly, I was struggled to follow
Speaker 1: the logic. They're a little go on, but like if
Speaker 1: the plane crashes, general paranoia by check paranoia, and also
Speaker 1: like a little bit of laziness, because I was like,
Speaker 1: that's even at f And then too, I was a
Speaker 1: little worried for the clowns safety. If I didn't send
Speaker 1: the clowns, I would say this, at the state that
Speaker 1: we were in, by this clown shows up at eight
Speaker 1: thirty nine o'clock or something, they would have been taken down.
Speaker 1: I yeah, Colleen is making I hate clowns. I always have.
Speaker 1: If at the state I was in, by the end
Speaker 1: of that party, that clown showed up after ten pm,
Speaker 1: it would have turned into like Jared Leto's face and
Speaker 1: fight club. I wouldn't even by the time I like
Speaker 1: snapped out of like my rage. Literally, there would be
Speaker 1: no face left on that clown. And this poor clown
Speaker 1: would have came in with balloons and games would have
Speaker 1: been it would have been cruel to it would be
Speaker 1: a happy clown. That wouldn't be like a scary clow.
Speaker 1: It would be a happy clown. Well, all clowns are scary. Actually,
Speaker 1: you're a strange person, and I'm glad that me or both.
Speaker 1: I'm pointing to you on this one. Yeah, it could
Speaker 1: have an odd bird, but we like having you around. Colleen,
Speaker 1: all right, thanks, you should have done it that I know.
Speaker 1: I know. Well, next time, all right, next time. Indeed. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is Dan hans Is signing off for a quiet storm,
Speaker 1: tiny Box Boss America and Sally behind the Glass till
Speaker 1: Monday