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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL
Speaker 1: Podcast presented by New Era. My name is Dan Ansers
Speaker 1: and I am joined by Room Building, some of heroes,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler and Colleen Wolf. What's our people? What's happening?
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Speaker 1: Coming up today, guys, our training Camp Spotlight series rolls on.
Speaker 1: Very exciting. We're gonna talk about uh two games coming
Speaker 1: up on NFL network airwaves, including j Cutler's debut. Uh
Speaker 1: the Chargers. They're trying to uh establish a foothold in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and they had a unique promotion that involved
Speaker 1: free tattoos. Uh Connie five had boots on the ground,
Speaker 1: as did her husband. So we're going to check in
Speaker 1: with the loving couple about what the scene was in
Speaker 1: West Hollywood for that little promotion. And also, of course
Speaker 1: episode two of our favorite NFL program, Hard Knocks. It
Speaker 1: was another great episode of course, centering on uh poor
Speaker 1: Robbi Aguayo. As you would expect. So we'll get to
Speaker 1: that as well. Before we do anything that's formally, say
Speaker 1: hello to um Erica behind the glass, how are you
Speaker 1: comfort level raising? Let's say one to ten? Where you
Speaker 1: at comfort comfort level nine? Like I feel like she's
Speaker 1: already at ten. Thank you, thank you. I went home
Speaker 1: on the listen to the last episode from a technical angle,
Speaker 1: pumped it out on loud sound and within my noise
Speaker 1: late at night, and it was she did a great
Speaker 1: job with it, very technically sound, very nice. Erica. What
Speaker 1: is your Twitter handle by the way at the tempo NFL? Yes,
Speaker 1: And that's well you'll get you'll learn the terrible news
Speaker 1: that Eric is another Patriots meeting at me saying like, yes,
Speaker 1: we gotta take Dan down. And I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I gotta have to stay Switzerland throughout this. Okay, I
Speaker 1: respect that you're a professional taking Dan down when his
Speaker 1: team is predicted by many experts to go and oh
Speaker 1: and six team? How low can you feel? Feels aggressive?
Speaker 1: All right, let's do some news. Is that too much?
Speaker 1: How about that one? Is this Gerald McCoy garnering serious
Speaker 1: hard knocks? M vp uh consideration office performance an episode two,
Speaker 1: we'll get to all that, but let's start first with
Speaker 1: what is becoming the big um uh legal news story
Speaker 1: of the NFL season. Of course, we we we finally
Speaker 1: got out of the flake gate and Tom Brady. Now
Speaker 1: we got something else cooking here. It's Ezekiel Elliott, the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys running back who was suspended six games last
Speaker 1: week UM for violating the week's personal conduct policy. Well,
Speaker 1: Elliott did the expected, he officially filed his notice of
Speaker 1: appeal of that suspension, the NFL p A announced on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: UH Commissioner Roger Goodell has appointed Harold Henderson to hear
Speaker 1: elliott suspension appeal. UH, the league announced Wednesday. And Mark,
Speaker 1: is that a familiar name to you? Yes or no?
Speaker 1: Yes it is. It is because Henderson has been the
Speaker 1: NFL's appeals officer for years, almost a decade in fact,
Speaker 1: and he heard Greg Hardy's domestic violence case way back
Speaker 1: in UH. So the hearing has been scheduled for August
Speaker 1: twenty nine. Rap sheet and Tom Plaicero report of NFL Network. UM,
Speaker 1: we don't know how it's gonna play out, but this
Speaker 1: is being a situation is becoming a situation now where
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are at least Elliott are fighting this thing. Well,
Speaker 1: it feels like the next sort of checkpoint in a
Speaker 1: process that could take a very long time, bringing into question,
Speaker 1: you know what what it means for this season for
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, because already, and this is through official statements
Speaker 1: on Twitter, the NFL and the NFL p A have
Speaker 1: come at each other very hard, and it kind of
Speaker 1: reminds you of the tenor and a couple of things
Speaker 1: that have bubbled up since. But the tenor of the
Speaker 1: lockout back in the day, how openly contentious the two
Speaker 1: sides were with each other. They are both you know,
Speaker 1: there is no meek behavior here. Both made it very
Speaker 1: clearly they don't agree that the other side is operated,
Speaker 1: you know, in terms comprehensively, in terms of this investigation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the line has been drawn and it's already gotten ugly,
Speaker 1: and he filed the appeal yesterday, So I can only
Speaker 1: see this kind of getting even more messy as this progresses.
Speaker 1: But as you mentioned, Harold Henderson, he did oversee the
Speaker 1: Hearty case and that was reduced from ten to four games.
Speaker 1: He also oversaw the Adrian Peterson appeal, which that was upheld.
Speaker 1: So it's tough to say how it's going to play out.
Speaker 1: But the NFL does hire him a lot for these
Speaker 1: appeals cases, so you would think that it would be
Speaker 1: a mild reduction, if any reduction. Yeah, the and the
Speaker 1: ground is shifted repeatedly ever since Ray Rice and everything
Speaker 1: that has come since that. UM. Back in the Greg
Speaker 1: Hardy days, the first time offender um uh in a
Speaker 1: in an incident of domestic violence violence incident was two
Speaker 1: games it got he got hit with ten games, and
Speaker 1: then it was dropped to four. Now under the new rules,
Speaker 1: six games is like the mandate floor level, which is
Speaker 1: what Elliott got. So you you wonder if, if if
Speaker 1: there will be any change this time around. We don't know.
Speaker 1: We were not lawyers are plugged in that level, but
Speaker 1: I would be very surprised if this was struck down
Speaker 1: um anything beyond a blow four games. If like the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Elio would be very lucky. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: from that angle, it's sort of another precedent setting case
Speaker 1: because we're gonna find out how in this world of
Speaker 1: six game bands attached to this type of incident, if
Speaker 1: it can, if it can shift at all, We'll find out.
Speaker 1: As you said, we're not lawyers I would say of
Speaker 1: the three of you, I'm the least loyally. I know
Speaker 1: nothing about the trade at all. Did you work in
Speaker 1: a lot No, that was West definitely. I've worked four lawyers,
Speaker 1: but in other capacity. Interesting that you mentioned that, because
Speaker 1: the natural progression of this would would be ezekiel it
Speaker 1: then filing a lawsuit. Um so it kind of yeah
Speaker 1: that direction. Yeah, waining with the Brady thing that that
Speaker 1: can take an extremely long time. We might be talking
Speaker 1: about this all season, doesn't I was just about to say,
Speaker 1: doesn't this feel like just the beginning of what's going
Speaker 1: to We need a lawyer to come on the show.
Speaker 1: We need like a friendly lawyer to break everything down
Speaker 1: for more ways than one. Yeah, we need a lot
Speaker 1: of lawyer. A cool like a cool lawyer. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: a cool dad lawyer. Yeah. Or mom lawyer okay, Dan, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a mom lawyer. Don't don't get on my case there,
Speaker 1: good point by Colleen. Everybody's comed down. I mean they
Speaker 1: also don't have to be parents, cool dad lawyer, Okay,
Speaker 1: cool mom lawyer, even somebody that's aware of the laws.
Speaker 1: But also you can cut loose. It might need, you know,
Speaker 1: a little to get more detailed, to hash out the scenario,
Speaker 1: maybe happy our scenarios after the podcast to really break
Speaker 1: down what's happenings. Of course, yeah, that's a right off. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's move on. Uh, don't know where that went. The
Speaker 1: Saints UM got some bad news on Delvin Brow. The
Speaker 1: cornerback will undergo surgery for a fractured fibula and is
Speaker 1: expected to miss the next six weeks. Sean Payton announced Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Rap Sheet reported that the fracture was discovered when an
Speaker 1: independent doctor read bros x ray. I'm saying that right, right,
Speaker 1: So it's not it's so it's like bro your x ray.
Speaker 1: I spell it bro whenever I write my notes b
Speaker 1: R e a U X I like that. Anyway, independent
Speaker 1: doctor found the break um, and that is kind of
Speaker 1: the Other element of the story is that the Saints
Speaker 1: had some in house orthopedis who gave the wrong diagnosis UM,
Speaker 1: calling it a contusion. He was not getting better. That's
Speaker 1: when the independent guy came in and guess what orthopedis
Speaker 1: sent packing the old boot. They got a guyod in
Speaker 1: a big spot. Two of them, yea of them, which
Speaker 1: either tells me one was clearly at all well I
Speaker 1: shouldn't I should. I'm just speculating, but that that the
Speaker 1: other said, I'm not gonna let you go down alone.
Speaker 1: I can, I'm loyal to you. We're gonna go down
Speaker 1: as a duo, or they were equally you know, at fault.
Speaker 1: We don't know that, you know, well, yeah, obviously, I'm
Speaker 1: just saying it would be a great story if one
Speaker 1: of them said, I actually had nothing to do with this,
Speaker 1: but I believe so much in you that I'm going
Speaker 1: to go right down with you. That kind of loyalty
Speaker 1: is rare a screen player. It feels like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's got to be another part of this, and the
Speaker 1: fact that it was a break. It was initially diagnosed
Speaker 1: as a bruise, and they were annoyed that he wasn't
Speaker 1: progressing as quickly as he should have been. And meanwhile,
Speaker 1: he had a broken leg and now he needs surgery,
Speaker 1: will be out four to six weeks. But he has
Speaker 1: a history of lingering injuries, and so I think that
Speaker 1: that's sort of what they thought this was. Now I
Speaker 1: can kind of relate because when I was younger, I
Speaker 1: broke my foot and my mom thought I was trying,
Speaker 1: like exaggerating a little bit, and she made me walk
Speaker 1: around on a broken foot for two days. Oh well,
Speaker 1: you can't fire your mom, but that feels like a
Speaker 1: fireball offense on some level. The doctor was like, actually,
Speaker 1: your bone is shattered, shattered, shattered. I shattered a bone,
Speaker 1: and she was like, toughen up a little bit. Classic mom.
Speaker 1: We've met your mom, and I could see your mom saying,
Speaker 1: you know, not taking to the doctor for this minor,
Speaker 1: minor injury. It's true, you're lucky. They didn't like send
Speaker 1: you to an orphanage after that, X ray. I'm lucky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're all lucky local orphans. Foot is all banged up.
Speaker 1: Um moving on, that's a weird headline. Is moving on
Speaker 1: and talking about the Arizona Cardinals. Um who. It's funny
Speaker 1: how things change in the NFL, Folks. A year ago,
Speaker 1: people were salivating over the potential of a wide receiver
Speaker 1: group that had, yes, Larry Fitzgerald, but also John Brown,
Speaker 1: Michael Floyd, Jeron Brown. Oh so many options? Right? Did
Speaker 1: I miss anybody? J? J. Nelson? I don't know there
Speaker 1: were others, but you you get the big characters. Anyway,
Speaker 1: that didn't pan out. Floyd was a mess and eventually
Speaker 1: got traded. John Brown was banged up. Lie Fritz Deald
Speaker 1: was still Larry Fitz but couldn't carry the show alone.
Speaker 1: And now Bruce Arians is keeping it real. Uh, he's
Speaker 1: not happy with where his wide receivers are at this summer.
Speaker 1: And on Monday, he didn't hold back. He had this
Speaker 1: to say via the team's official website. I must have
Speaker 1: I must have been seeing things back in the spring
Speaker 1: when I said we had twelve guys who could play
Speaker 1: in the NFL, referring to his wide receiver group, we
Speaker 1: might have to. Uh, let's go over the group, like
Speaker 1: I said, fits drawn still there, John Brown is still there.
Speaker 1: J J. Nelson, Britain Golden, Uh, Aaron Dobson, Jeremy Ross,
Speaker 1: Chad Williams. Somebody's gonna have to step up and make
Speaker 1: some plays. Colleen. Yeah, And I think one of the
Speaker 1: most interesting one of the most interesting things that Bruce
Speaker 1: Arians said was he was talking about John Brown's injury
Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, it's a concern he's not available.
Speaker 1: You're only good when you're available. And it was almost
Speaker 1: that he intimated John Brown was a to practice, but
Speaker 1: he just wasn't capable of doing it. And John Brown
Speaker 1: came out and said look, I'm I'm not okay to
Speaker 1: go out there and practice, and my body is different
Speaker 1: than other players bodies, and I feel like this is
Speaker 1: sort of just a message from Arians trying to give
Speaker 1: a kick to the wide receivers to get their job done.
Speaker 1: They're missing assignments, they're not catching the ball. But Arians
Speaker 1: from the get go of training camp has said that
Speaker 1: he wants really aggressive practices and he's not seeing what
Speaker 1: he wants to see out there. John Brown is the
Speaker 1: key here if he you know, he the sickle cell
Speaker 1: trade situation caused a lot of issues for him. He
Speaker 1: had other issues last year as well. And if he
Speaker 1: can play for you this season, I don't think their
Speaker 1: wide receiver group is in that much trouble, to be honest,
Speaker 1: He's they have a fine trio in that in said,
Speaker 1: Jeron Brown was not you know, he was not in
Speaker 1: a good connection with Carson Palmer during that first preseason game.
Speaker 1: I don't put a lot of stock in that. Palmer
Speaker 1: came out and said that Geron Brown is someone that
Speaker 1: could catch seventy or eighty balls this year, and that
Speaker 1: to me points to he may need to be our
Speaker 1: number two guy because we don't know what we're gonna
Speaker 1: from John Brown come week one and maybe deep into
Speaker 1: the season. Yeah Brown, It's easy to forget now. But
Speaker 1: when Brown is right, he's like an all pro type
Speaker 1: talent potentially. So I think Arians is maybe motivating because
Speaker 1: he knows that Mary is more than anything knows. Larry
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald is as productive as he was last year. He
Speaker 1: was starting to look like a thirty something wide receiver
Speaker 1: in terms of his playmaking ability. The offense needs a
Speaker 1: playmaker to step up. So one time in with you
Speaker 1: had a good comment today said they're not going up
Speaker 1: against Scrubs. Their their defensive backfield, you know, has brings
Speaker 1: some challenges to a group of wide receivers. To that,
Speaker 1: It's like, maybe that's part of what we're seeing in practices,
Speaker 1: struggling with the defense and they're dealing with a ton
Speaker 1: of injuries too. I mean, these guys have shin splints
Speaker 1: and groin Get out there and play. So your mom
Speaker 1: would be like, go run the Boston Marathon. Geez, miss Wolf.
Speaker 1: What if all right, by the way, what if we
Speaker 1: had um cool dad lawyer and cool mom lawyer together,
Speaker 1: not actually married, but just like find a good match
Speaker 1: of a team and then We have a little booth
Speaker 1: that we put right next to Mark about four ft away.
Speaker 1: We just throw it to them every once in a
Speaker 1: while like then, Yeah, that could work. We're like in
Speaker 1: a sound proof type of booth inside the pod studio.
Speaker 1: They're just in their own little areas. You're gonna put
Speaker 1: them in a case. How about like a cage. It's
Speaker 1: getting now, it's getting weird. Moving on, let's talk about
Speaker 1: you know, we're just talking about it with Erica and
Speaker 1: all our little Patriots friends saying stick Dan, this is
Speaker 1: the way to really take him down a notch. You know,
Speaker 1: these Jets fans have been flying too high the last
Speaker 1: couple of years. Um. But no, that's not the case.
Speaker 1: It's it's terrible being a Jets fan right now. Um.
Speaker 1: And it is funny to me that Bill Belichick, the
Speaker 1: coach of the Patriots, uh, famously was the coach of
Speaker 1: the Jets for one day before he resigned and took
Speaker 1: the patch job eventually. Um. Despite that, and despite all
Speaker 1: the success that Bill has had in the years since,
Speaker 1: in the seventeen years since, he still harbors a very
Speaker 1: very big grudge against the New York Jets. Uh. I'm
Speaker 1: sure Spygate has something to do with it, probably just
Speaker 1: a bit a big deal, but hey, listen, hey Rex,
Speaker 1: Ryan did no favors that rexted and things Maninie got
Speaker 1: on his radar, but he is not. It's very clear
Speaker 1: wreck that Bill still has a lot of issues with
Speaker 1: the Jets, and it came up today again on Wednesday
Speaker 1: when Bill Belichick was discussing his long relationships with Texans
Speaker 1: assistant head coach Romeo Cornell. Uh Here's what he had
Speaker 1: to say. Well, Romeo and I started together at the
Speaker 1: at the Giants and special teams. So he and I
Speaker 1: coached special teams together, and then we coached defensively together.
Speaker 1: Through we worked at the Patriots together, then another team,
Speaker 1: and then back with the Patriots in two thousand one,
Speaker 1: then another team. He doesn't even he won't even bring
Speaker 1: the Jets up by name, and he and he knows
Speaker 1: that everyone's picking up on that. What is this problem?
Speaker 1: I think you should take as a Jets fan, some
Speaker 1: some calculated pride in this, because if the Jets and
Speaker 1: the Jets opposed no on field threat to the Patriots
Speaker 1: outside of it, you know Mark Sanchez season here and there,
Speaker 1: I know you cling to that two thousand and ten players.
Speaker 1: I cling to playoff victories and teams in the I'm
Speaker 1: not okay, I do the same. We're don't you number one.
Speaker 1: Don't start that we can't get on each other. I
Speaker 1: put teams. What I'm saying, If he's really so peeved
Speaker 1: by the Jets and they're so deeply under his skin
Speaker 1: that he can't refer to them by name, yeah, I
Speaker 1: like that dynamic. I have a solution. I think that
Speaker 1: you should not refer to Bill Belichick by name from
Speaker 1: this point forward. Not like that. It's something I'm gonna
Speaker 1: think about for sure. And just so you know, this
Speaker 1: has been a troll job that's been going on for
Speaker 1: a while. I think it was last season, or maybe
Speaker 1: the season before. It's uh uh. He went through. He
Speaker 1: did a press conference where I don't know how came
Speaker 1: up with Belichick because you know, everybody gets enamorated by
Speaker 1: sometimes Bill goes down these wormholes and the Friday Friday morning,
Speaker 1: just like this, just pay attention. When Bill gets warmed up,
Speaker 1: you can learn a lot about the game. Calm down.
Speaker 1: But he um at one point in the press conference
Speaker 1: in two thousand fifteen named every coordinator he had ever
Speaker 1: had and he he left off one coordinator who do
Speaker 1: you think was Eric Genie? Yeah, people forget the Romeo
Speaker 1: Cornell and this when he left the Patriots way went
Speaker 1: to Cleveland when year two thousand he was their defensive
Speaker 1: coordinat or one of the worst defenses of all time.
Speaker 1: They were so bad that he had to run a
Speaker 1: scheme called the UFO defense, where the front seven all
Speaker 1: they did was before the snap they would run around
Speaker 1: in circles to cry to try to create some sort
Speaker 1: of confusion. Would he usually just results in like a
Speaker 1: twenty seven yard game by the opponent. Not not an
Speaker 1: effective defense. He tried though, I creativity. Yeah. Um, last note, Coline,
Speaker 1: don't want to thank you. And if you're watching the
Speaker 1: video show Collie literally wearing Jets screen and white today.
Speaker 1: This was not planned at all. And would you like
Speaker 1: to where the Jets tattooes it's a little No, you're right,
Speaker 1: it's pretty close. Let's take a picture for the people. Uh,
Speaker 1: send this out. I should have worn this because I
Speaker 1: didn't do my hair today. First on air photo of
Speaker 1: being taken here in the podcast studio. All right, let's
Speaker 1: move on, a good job. I'm gonna put it right
Speaker 1: on your notes, there is an alternate reality where it's
Speaker 1: even more depressing than being an Eagles fan. For you,
Speaker 1: that photo, this jet screen and Patriots white all right now,
Speaker 1: moving on the chargers. They are trying to establish a foothold,
Speaker 1: as I said earlier, in this region Los Angeles, where
Speaker 1: we live and work, and one of their outreach um
Speaker 1: ideas was to hey, what if for one day, for
Speaker 1: twelve hours, we pick a famed Hollywood West Hollywood tattoo
Speaker 1: studio and offer free Chargers tattoos to anyone that wants it.
Speaker 1: Just come to the Shamrocks Social Club and get a tattoo.
Speaker 1: And uh, and now it's time, Colleen. You were there.
Speaker 1: You were there on hand, and the reason you were
Speaker 1: you were being a total Miko Grimes scenario. Super supportive
Speaker 1: of of your man because I have him on the
Speaker 1: line right now. His name is John Gonzalez. Uh. He
Speaker 1: is a contributor to the Ringer and also uh, the
Speaker 1: husbandman of of Colleen Wolf. That's I feel like that's
Speaker 1: a pretty good description of who you are. John. It's
Speaker 1: not bad for those who don't know. I'm an American
Speaker 1: sportswriter and I live in Lost My wife and our
Speaker 1: two dogs. It's all there. It's all there if you
Speaker 1: ever need to know about Gonzo. So Gonzo, you and
Speaker 1: Colleen both went to the tattoo shop and and a
Speaker 1: great piece on the ringer that you should all check out. Gonzo.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that you tweeted it out. You could follow
Speaker 1: Gonzo underscore John gons Uh tell us your takeaways from
Speaker 1: your trip there. How long were you there? By the way,
Speaker 1: I was there for a few hours. It was sort
Speaker 1: of multi purpose. Wanted to get us story, but also
Speaker 1: Colin was getting her nails done, so I had a
Speaker 1: word to check her off. That's true. I left the
Speaker 1: I left the tattoo place and was like, what can
Speaker 1: I do around here? And there's a place that gives
Speaker 1: free alcohol away. Uh, and you can get a manicure
Speaker 1: at the same This is right up on Sunset Boulevard,
Speaker 1: if I'm not correct, is everything on Sunset free? Now?
Speaker 1: What's going on in theistical Southland Boulevard? So that's smart,
Speaker 1: very efficient use of your time, Gonzo own another way,
Speaker 1: Uh to earn a buck, you just while while waiting,
Speaker 1: you just knock out a column. Nice work, knock knocked
Speaker 1: out the story and then uh then Colin took the
Speaker 1: money for her nails. It worked out for everybody. So basically,
Speaker 1: you it did seem that you came across some interesting
Speaker 1: characters here, and one that stuck out was and I
Speaker 1: think it was the first um A fan that you
Speaker 1: you put in your article, was the guy that was
Speaker 1: such a big Chargers fans down to San Diego that
Speaker 1: he cried by himself in his car when the news
Speaker 1: was official that they were leaving San Diego. And yet
Speaker 1: he got up at like five am yesterday to take
Speaker 1: the ride up uh up room five in a State
Speaker 1: five with his uh wife and babies and everything to
Speaker 1: get this tattoo for the l A Charges. How how
Speaker 1: do you make sense of that? Ganza? I don't. I said,
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure anybody was going to show up because
Speaker 1: you know, you guys obviously saw the Chargers preseason opener
Speaker 1: in Carson, California. They play in a soccer stadium and
Speaker 1: couldn't fill it. So I was wondering if anybody was
Speaker 1: gonna show to get permanently branded with Chargers tattoos, which
Speaker 1: seemed kind of crazy. But yeah, this guy who was
Speaker 1: devastated when they moved, decided that he was going to
Speaker 1: get up and not only drive to l A from
Speaker 1: San Diego yesterday morning, but he packed his wife and
Speaker 1: two kids in the car. And one of the kids
Speaker 1: is two weeks old. Wow, you almost shouldn't even be
Speaker 1: out in the atmosphere when you're that young, exactly. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: not hermetically sealed or anything. And you know what, an
Speaker 1: angel was quite as could be. Um, well, how about
Speaker 1: how many people did you see there or get tattoos
Speaker 1: during your time waiting for Colleen's nails to be complete?
Speaker 1: Also the tattoos themselves, Yeah, yeah, the tattoos themselves were interesting. Um,
Speaker 1: there were three options. But I would say when we
Speaker 1: got there, when Colleen and I got there, I counted
Speaker 1: twelve people fourteen if you count the two kids they
Speaker 1: didn't get tattoos. Uh. And then although you know who knows,
Speaker 1: uh orphanage, there would definitely be some social service taking
Speaker 1: away that two weeks, although go Ahead and Goza had
Speaker 1: all the way around. I think like just having a
Speaker 1: Charger's tattoo as as a dad might get you in
Speaker 1: trouble with child services. But uh, there was probably like
Speaker 1: twenty more people in line when I left, and the
Speaker 1: PR people told me afterwards that they had somewhere in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood because they were open from one pm to
Speaker 1: one am yesterday. So they claimed that there were about
Speaker 1: a hundred people in total that show. But you know
Speaker 1: I didn't see that. I saw about twenty. Well one
Speaker 1: question for you, I don't know if you were able
Speaker 1: to mind your way into the shop itself. By the way,
Speaker 1: I believe I have one tattoo and it was it
Speaker 1: was something I acquired on on West Hollywood, right where
Speaker 1: I believe this place is, unless this is a newer version.
Speaker 1: But so you got you mind your way into this shop.
Speaker 1: We're able to see where on people's bodies, be it
Speaker 1: male or female, are people deciding to get Chargers tattoos?
Speaker 1: Where was the hot spot on the body or maybe
Speaker 1: an unusual placement if you saw one. So this is
Speaker 1: this is interesting. The first guy that I mentioned, Anthony,
Speaker 1: who brought his two kids and his wife. He he
Speaker 1: got it on his forearm and he the tattoo. You
Speaker 1: had three options. You had the chargers lightning ball, you
Speaker 1: had the word chargers, and then you had this weird
Speaker 1: mock up. This is my favorite one. The third one
Speaker 1: it was it's a shield like a coat of arms,
Speaker 1: and on it it said l A Chargers and then
Speaker 1: it had like the lightning bowl and blue and gold
Speaker 1: and then this is the part that threw me and
Speaker 1: I had to ask about it. It looked to me
Speaker 1: to be some sort of horse, but they insisted it
Speaker 1: was a stallion behind the glass. I'm being told guns though,
Speaker 1: that that is actually the original Los Angeles Chargers logo. Well,
Speaker 1: it's terrible, and a lot of people picked that. A
Speaker 1: lot of people think that a lot of people picked it,
Speaker 1: including one of the guys I talked to, uh to
Speaker 1: answer your questions as he goes, uh, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of been a fan of long time.
Speaker 1: I said, how long he goes, Oh about ten years.
Speaker 1: I guess that does qualifies a long time for charges
Speaker 1: him And he said he had never gotten the tattoo
Speaker 1: before his first one. Who's gonna be the shield coat
Speaker 1: of arms deal? And I said, why would you do that?
Speaker 1: And he said it's free and he got it on
Speaker 1: his calf, Oh the calf, Tess. Well, you know what,
Speaker 1: never underestimate the power of free stuff. I've seen that
Speaker 1: all through my life, and even if it's permanent body
Speaker 1: modification free. A lot of people get it. Gonzo. Wait wait, wait,
Speaker 1: wait before he goes. One of my favorite parts about
Speaker 1: this story, John, tell him what Johnny Hecker was offering. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even the rams punters scoring on these guys. That's how
Speaker 1: you know that you're in trouble when you come to town.
Speaker 1: The rams punter was making fun of them and saying
Speaker 1: that he would pay for the chattoo removal. So if
Speaker 1: you got one yesterday, I hit him up. The punter
Speaker 1: coming after you in a big spot. Um, Gonzo, check
Speaker 1: him out. Like I said at Underscore, John Guns, he
Speaker 1: checked out his work at the Ringer. Uh, you could
Speaker 1: check him out, you know. Losing to me and Cornhole
Speaker 1: when the stakes go a little bit higher, all these
Speaker 1: things are in play. Gotta hang out soon, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: before I go real quick. Big day for our boy West,
Speaker 1: So shots to West and the Paramore. Absolutely absolutely, all right,
Speaker 1: John Gonzalez there he goes, all right, all right, bye? John.
Speaker 1: In in in case, yeah, in case you were not aware
Speaker 1: of who John Gonzalez is, he you know he's John.
Speaker 1: Renald Gonzalez BOARDR. Is an American sports writer. Was married
Speaker 1: NFL media broadcaster College Wolf John, who was A. Vices
Speaker 1: resides in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs. Alright,
Speaker 1: training Camp Spotlight Time presented by New Era UM and
Speaker 1: we are going to break down the preseason schedule for
Speaker 1: NFL Network. Coming up the Bills at Eagles, Ravens and Dolphins,
Speaker 1: Bucks at Jaguars. Let's talk about two of these games.
Speaker 1: We'll start with the Ravens and Dolphins and uh and
Speaker 1: Mark kind of maybe for one each game, one thing
Speaker 1: you're looking forward to. We'll start there. I mean, the
Speaker 1: summer has been long, the off season has been long,
Speaker 1: but now we are here witness seeing a showdown between
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler and Ryan Mallett. Uh, in the most awkward
Speaker 1: of circumstances. I believe that's football at its height in
Speaker 1: the preseason. Uh. You know, in the realm of the preseason.
Speaker 1: What I want to see are two quick things. Jay Cutler,
Speaker 1: I'm not I know, Oh he's in shape, he's been
Speaker 1: working out. But I want to see your Suddenly, you
Speaker 1: two weeks ago, you're probably sitting at home with your
Speaker 1: little microphone pretending to broadcast games, and see how you
Speaker 1: do that. Well, that's how you do it, That's how
Speaker 1: you do it in the craft. Yeah, but then now, no,
Speaker 1: not anymore. And you know, back in each weelve but
Speaker 1: now you now suddenly you're thrust on the field. And
Speaker 1: do you have any chemistry with Devonte Parker? Do you
Speaker 1: have any chemistry with the with the entire offense that
Speaker 1: you've known for like roughly eighty hours and and and
Speaker 1: if you're Baltimore Ryan Mallett, if you melt down, did
Speaker 1: they finally say we have got to do something about
Speaker 1: this position? Another terrible game and they've got issues. We
Speaker 1: don't know win Flak, who is going to truly be healthy?
Speaker 1: It's a great point. I won't take much from the
Speaker 1: J Cutler outing. If he's rusty, that makes sense. If
Speaker 1: he performs well, it makes sense. He's been around forever.
Speaker 1: He knows he's been in this offense. How long would
Speaker 1: you play him for? How? Uh know? Series? Maybe you
Speaker 1: gotta get him some work. Yeah, I would play him
Speaker 1: first quarter, I'd play That's what I would do. But
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not that coach. It feels like a
Speaker 1: soft tissue in your entry waiting to happen. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: but yes, the the Ryan Mallet's situation is something to track.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, now they got that Lewis in there,
Speaker 1: but I'm sure there's still not a lot of good
Speaker 1: feelings about the situation. It all depends what's really going
Speaker 1: on behind the scenes with Joe Flacco. Yeah, and with
Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett. Part of the excuses that people were throwing
Speaker 1: out for the way that he played was that he
Speaker 1: was playing with the majority of the second team offense.
Speaker 1: So this week we'll see him with the first team
Speaker 1: offense and he had been playing against the first team defense.
Speaker 1: Those are the things that creep into this time of
Speaker 1: the year when coaches trying to make excuses or players
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you know, I'm not getting those reps
Speaker 1: with the first team, so yeah, well the first team
Speaker 1: defense is bearing down on you. Now you're gonna get
Speaker 1: the hot reads, right All right, Bill's Eagles is another game,
Speaker 1: and Connie Fox, you are, of course, before you moved
Speaker 1: to Jets fandom earlier in this podcast, you did grow
Speaker 1: up following the Eagles. What is Let's start with the Eagles.
Speaker 1: What are you looking forward to checking out in this game?
Speaker 1: All right? Well, I'm obviously a huge fan of Ronald Darby,
Speaker 1: have talked about him on the show before, so I
Speaker 1: want to see if Tyrod Taylor is going to come
Speaker 1: out and target Ronald Darby and how much in this game.
Speaker 1: I know that we're not going to be able to
Speaker 1: see j Matt Jordan Matthews because j Matt Yeah I
Speaker 1: think that's his Twitter even um because he's got the
Speaker 1: chip Sternham, so we won't be able to see him.
Speaker 1: But it's it's interesting because we get to see these
Speaker 1: two teams that were involved in the trade. It's a
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott revenge game of the preseason. Maybe. You know,
Speaker 1: the only game that really counts in terms of settling
Speaker 1: scores is the Snoopy Bawl in the Meadowlands. That's when
Speaker 1: the chips are right now, this one's pretty good though,
Speaker 1: it's pretty it's pretty good. Yeah that this is a
Speaker 1: you know the Bills, Bills fans are trying to get
Speaker 1: excited about this season. This is this is the first
Speaker 1: game since the big trade. It is and in fact,
Speaker 1: their GM is all their new gym is already annoyed
Speaker 1: that it doesn't just sit around in Flooring Park where
Speaker 1: this accusation the people say the Bills are trying to
Speaker 1: throw the season down the tubes, and he said, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not copycats. You can't do what the Jets are
Speaker 1: already trying to do. According to something did never follow
Speaker 1: the Jets as a pathway for success. I would also
Speaker 1: counter with just you know, Jets, like we're throwing the season.
Speaker 1: That means eight sacks, the most we've had sincere in
Speaker 1: any game. That's how you throw the NFL season. A
Speaker 1: lot of z A. Jones and an Kwon Bolden too.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Williams, Yeah, is he okay? Is that Hammy okay? Well,
Speaker 1: that's that's fair question. They said he was fine. I
Speaker 1: wonder if maybe they keep him out of this. That
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Speaker 1: it's time to talk about a little bit Hard Knock. Yes,
Speaker 1: Episode two aired on Tuesday night on Home Box Office
Speaker 1: and another another interesting peek behind the curtain of the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Bucks. I thought, not a surprise is that
Speaker 1: Robbioguayo would be a focal point of this episode. How
Speaker 1: could it not be? And um, and I got me thinking.
Speaker 1: I have been doing these, writing these episode recaps for
Speaker 1: this website for six years now, and I was trying
Speaker 1: to think the last time Hard Knocks and real news,
Speaker 1: like actual NFL news collided and hard knocks at boots
Speaker 1: on the ground and you have to go back, I
Speaker 1: think to the Miami Dolphins in two thousand twelve, when
Speaker 1: Chad Johnson was arrested for his domestic violence UH incident
Speaker 1: and him walking into Joe Philman's office and in one
Speaker 1: of the indelible Hard Knocks moments for me, in terms
Speaker 1: of um just remembering that season and one of the
Speaker 1: seasons of all the seasons is Johnson looking around and
Speaker 1: knowing that the stationary cameras in there somewhere, and he
Speaker 1: makes eye contact with it and just like hangs his
Speaker 1: head and knows, not only is his football career about
Speaker 1: to end, uh, he's about to become the subject of
Speaker 1: a a documentary series about it. So anyway, that's what
Speaker 1: it reminded me of, was Robbi Aguayo, the way they
Speaker 1: built up through the episode, some of the challenges and practices.
Speaker 1: Chris Baker, just, I mean, this is this is football,
Speaker 1: this is this is what this sport is, especially during
Speaker 1: training camp. I know Mark where I think Colleen as well.
Speaker 1: Collision low Crossers. That gave a great peak behind the
Speaker 1: curtain of how brutal these team teammates can beat to
Speaker 1: each other during training camp before they're all kind of
Speaker 1: like the same page once the season starts, Chris Baker
Speaker 1: barking in. Both Aguayo and Folks ear from feet away,
Speaker 1: you're gonna miss this, You're gonna blow it. You can't
Speaker 1: take the pressure. And then on that particular day, both
Speaker 1: kickers struggled and what jumped out to me was folks
Speaker 1: and take it. Folks has been playing and doing it years.
Speaker 1: He's heard that and worse, both in games that mattered
Speaker 1: and summer camps. Uh, training camp. It's not like they
Speaker 1: bunk up um, but Aguayo, it was all I feel.
Speaker 1: It was another symptom of his struggles to pressure and
Speaker 1: he couldn't handle it. And they cut to those confessionals.
Speaker 1: It was one on ones and he looked like he
Speaker 1: was a fifteen year old kid. It just it just
Speaker 1: seemed like the moment was too big for him at
Speaker 1: this stage in his life and career, and it ended
Speaker 1: with him missing the two kicks. And then this scene
Speaker 1: when after Dirk Cutter and Jason light Um. There have
Speaker 1: been Hard Knocks episodes where they you see the coach
Speaker 1: and GM agonized over a roster decision. There in Locksteps.
Speaker 1: They knew what they had to do, and then they
Speaker 1: have to bring in Roberto and give him the bad news. Well,
Speaker 1: it's never easy. Let's get right to it. We're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna release him. But I do want to tell
Speaker 1: you that we appreciate everything you've done for us, all right,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, we just gotta rely on you
Speaker 1: to make those kicks. It went on and on on though,
Speaker 1: like that was the longest breakup scene ever. And at
Speaker 1: one point I think it was Jason Light who said,
Speaker 1: this is not about Roberto the man. Keep your head up.
Speaker 1: Things will get Things can only get better from here.
Speaker 1: Like has that ever happened that someone's broken up with
Speaker 1: you and been like, listen, you've hit rock bottom? Well,
Speaker 1: is this is it? But it's going to get better.
Speaker 1: I think if you're Jason Light and and you know
Speaker 1: you're you're the head coach and you're the whole franchise,
Speaker 1: you have to understand that in this specific situation trading
Speaker 1: up to take him in round two, and this is
Speaker 1: not a new theory that you created a lot of
Speaker 1: this environment that he was put into in shrining this
Speaker 1: the idea that he'd come back this training camp and
Speaker 1: be a whole different player and kicker and person especially,
Speaker 1: I think he's got to go through what Nick folks
Speaker 1: gone through and heard this season after season and developed
Speaker 1: some mental toughness. I think I came away totally impressed
Speaker 1: with Robbia Guyo the person I really did, because he
Speaker 1: took it. He he is going to be fine. And
Speaker 1: I think but like he was going to fall apart. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well he's I think it's a he seems like a
Speaker 1: tenderhearted guy, so just you can't really be that and
Speaker 1: he's going to learn that you can't. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: this the sport is not for the weak of heart.
Speaker 1: And he just it seemed like the moment was bigger
Speaker 1: than him at this point. And you know, I think
Speaker 1: this is the best case scenario for him on some level.
Speaker 1: Obviously bad news what happened, get it losing his job,
Speaker 1: but the fact that he got another job so quickly.
Speaker 1: Both sides needed a fresh start here. It just was needed.
Speaker 1: They needed to reboot it. And now he's just another
Speaker 1: guy in the league, just like percent of kickers who
Speaker 1: are just playing musical chairs. And here's no more pressure
Speaker 1: on him. He's no longer the second round pick. He's
Speaker 1: just another guy and he's man titeo in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: The the the A storyline has been buried at this
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like there's a ton of pressure on
Speaker 1: Nick Folk either. Right now, he's out with in a
Speaker 1: pedal boat with Ryan Fitzpatrick. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys saw that, but that was pretty amazing. That's what
Speaker 1: I love about the show is because it reminds you
Speaker 1: is we can think, oh, we're so busy and we
Speaker 1: have kids, or we or we have dogs, or we
Speaker 1: have whatever it is on the side Colleen and like,
Speaker 1: but you have a out of other life. Well, I
Speaker 1: loved watching that scene of fitz FITZI and folk like
Speaker 1: out on this boat, stuck with these little kids jumping
Speaker 1: in pools and stuff. It was like they have to
Speaker 1: go home and do the same stuff that anyone else does. Um, Connie,
Speaker 1: what are some of your other takeaways from the episode. Well,
Speaker 1: the graybeards were mentioned. I don't know if you call
Speaker 1: it that you're talking about Ryan Fitzpatrick. I also thought
Speaker 1: it was funny that Ryan Fitzpatrick through shade at Mark
Speaker 1: Sanchez for eating hot dogs on the sideline right well
Speaker 1: and Winston had never heard of that incident. It was
Speaker 1: a weird, like a little parallel dimension if you're a
Speaker 1: jet fan watching, because the paddle boats there were two
Speaker 1: jets from recent teams, and then the Sanchez incident was
Speaker 1: two thousand nine Sanchez rookie. You read the hot dog
Speaker 1: in Oakland. Uh So, to have Ryan Fitzpatrick bringing that
Speaker 1: up and said, you gotta, you gotta try, you gotta
Speaker 1: what was it, you gotta respect the game, bro right game.
Speaker 1: It's Patrick's very like, God, I love Isn't it just
Speaker 1: seem like Ryan Fitzpatrick. I was thinking about this yesterday
Speaker 1: and uh, watching him closely two years before, this doesn't
Speaker 1: seem as just kind of amused by for fashional football,
Speaker 1: Like you just kind of like he's like he's making
Speaker 1: just smarter than everybody, and he and he knows he's
Speaker 1: not the most talented guy. And he's just like when
Speaker 1: they're doing these speeches like you gotta to build the
Speaker 1: right team, you have to put the cement in the
Speaker 1: grab was like Pitpatrick. Just a picture him just like
Speaker 1: smirking the whole time. He's heard every one of these things.
Speaker 1: I do find it odd that he pointed out that
Speaker 1: that this tray of hot dogs was specifically held in
Speaker 1: another room for doctors. I mean every team too. Why
Speaker 1: is it the doctors of all people are eating, like
Speaker 1: what is one of the worst food items around. You're
Speaker 1: eating hot dogs the doctors specifically, that's on your radar. Well,
Speaker 1: it was like five in the morning watch the things
Speaker 1: that thought, what is wrong with these people. The hot
Speaker 1: dogs are tasty. I don't care saying you're a doctor,
Speaker 1: like the only people allowed of hot dogs are the doctors.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't sit right. There's like the pigs huff
Speaker 1: in it and oh, alright, give me a little spicy
Speaker 1: must again. And we are flying any other thoughts from
Speaker 1: this um There's so there's so many more. I know
Speaker 1: we can't get to them all, but I do. Last
Speaker 1: I loved whoever said, what was it like playing against
Speaker 1: bart Star? You see? I found that, like I wrote down,
Speaker 1: I said, I wrote, one category was bad jokes, and
Speaker 1: that was there were that was in that was ill
Speaker 1: humor on I thought it was it's not well, it's funny,
Speaker 1: I know, And I think I see the show a little.
Speaker 1: I'm realizing I need to just let go with the
Speaker 1: show a little bit. People are people adore this and
Speaker 1: I get it. And so I'm I'm loosening up a
Speaker 1: little bit on Heart Knocks. It's it's just been fantastic
Speaker 1: up till now. She was Miko of course, blood feud
Speaker 1: with Greg Rosenthal, a very own Greg Rosenthal who's UM
Speaker 1: on assignment today. Uh, And it did give me pause
Speaker 1: when I was writing the recap, which you can check
Speaker 1: out NFL dot com. Slash Hard knocks that, um that
Speaker 1: she probably would read this and maybe go after me,
Speaker 1: But I just found it. I found her comment comments funny. Uh,
Speaker 1: talking about how she's at every practice and every game.
Speaker 1: Uh and uh, you know, sharing her thoughts about she
Speaker 1: doesn't care about little seven five yard lands that bowl s.
Speaker 1: I don't give an f about those catches. She just
Speaker 1: seems great well, and and and so in the in
Speaker 1: the episode, and they focus on Grimes and it's not
Speaker 1: that it's well timed, but he has a laceration on
Speaker 1: his leg that that somehow within seconds on her phone
Speaker 1: feels like a close up photo of the last rain.
Speaker 1: And running around showing other players and coaches kids, and
Speaker 1: like she just sort of I I found her much
Speaker 1: more enjoyable than I thought I would have, having never
Speaker 1: really watched her listen to her. I liked her a lot.
Speaker 1: Back to you, very supportive. She stays as she team hotels,
Speaker 1: she books her flights so they landed. She's engaged, Does
Speaker 1: he's engaged? Does it remind anyone of Jackie and Doug
Speaker 1: Christie from Once upon a Time in the NBA? Does
Speaker 1: that ring any bells. I mean, it reminds me of
Speaker 1: past relationships that I had, like way back in the day,
Speaker 1: I will land when you land. You had that situation.
Speaker 1: These things are out there. It's not airplanes. But all right, anyway,
Speaker 1: yes again, check it out NFL dot com, slash hard
Speaker 1: knocks uh and another episode next week. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: it all right. Moving on, how did we get out
Speaker 1: of there without talking Hockley? Also, we forgot to say
Speaker 1: spoiler alert to the UK UK audience who don't get
Speaker 1: to see this show until Thursday. So here's a belated
Speaker 1: spoiler alert. Whatever I mean, I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: think that, don't Yeah, that's you went a little bit
Speaker 1: off script with me. Well, but it's in there, so
Speaker 1: that's all that matter. You know, we love you over
Speaker 1: the other side of the pond. That was not on
Speaker 1: purpose for watch it by now, how about that. There's
Speaker 1: so much, so many more things we didn't get to.
Speaker 1: Let's um, let's close by today's show by talking about
Speaker 1: you know, trades. That makes sense. Sometimes you don't have
Speaker 1: to you know, you don't have to get let's be
Speaker 1: fancy with the title to really hook in the listener,
Speaker 1: uh or the view or no trades that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I think it's simple. This was an article that I
Speaker 1: was assigned to write, and and maybe what I said,
Speaker 1: what I came up with was not like hot takey enough,
Speaker 1: because even on NFL dot comment said seven logical trades,
Speaker 1: like all right, you want me to ship I understand,
Speaker 1: you want Peyton Manning to come back and take over
Speaker 1: like a Patriots team that shipped Tom Brady to the
Speaker 1: Bucks because Jamis Witten got all it lost at sea.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't. I don't come up with I
Speaker 1: get it. I get it, buddy. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I see also wilk for the title is a title bar?
Speaker 1: What's the technology? What's the turn bind scenes topic bar? Uh?
Speaker 1: Potential trades that make I mean, to the point where
Speaker 1: this doesn't even exist. Let's not even act like any
Speaker 1: of this, even VAMPI this is gonna be a great segment.
Speaker 1: Who's excited for all right? Get us going mark with
Speaker 1: a little I know you want to talk to your
Speaker 1: your brownies, so let it rip, well I will. There
Speaker 1: were there were a couple. I think that's a team
Speaker 1: that's still actively thinking we could trade certain veterans. And
Speaker 1: you look at Joe Hayden's salary and if they could
Speaker 1: ever find a way for a team to absorb that salary,
Speaker 1: you move Joe Hayden potentially. I still think he's he's
Speaker 1: one of their locker room, you know, favorites. He's been
Speaker 1: a loyal guy through some really tough years. But how
Speaker 1: about the list Cowboys. It's an obvious, uh that defense
Speaker 1: needs help up and down, and Hayden, I think has
Speaker 1: got another couple of seasons where you plug him into
Speaker 1: that Dallas defense and in return you get another draft pick.
Speaker 1: But that division, you look at the wide receivers that
Speaker 1: Dallas is going to need to face this season in
Speaker 1: the NFC East, much less beyond, and it would be
Speaker 1: great to pick up a veteran cornerback that if if
Speaker 1: Hayden is healthy, he would immediately help you and have
Speaker 1: a chance himself to go on to some playoff games,
Speaker 1: which is a rare thing in Cleveland. I know we're
Speaker 1: not capologists, but Joe Hayden probably makes a fair amount
Speaker 1: of guap. Well, that's they would need to move some
Speaker 1: things around, like and he's his contract is like wheel No, no,
Speaker 1: I mean you need to move someone. Honestly, I looked
Speaker 1: at him as a potential cut in Cleveland because of
Speaker 1: his cost and what his contract is, but also just
Speaker 1: his health situations. So maybe you can get someone to
Speaker 1: take him. I'd imagine him with Rod Marinelli. I mean,
Speaker 1: he would be probably even better than what he is now,
Speaker 1: just working in that system with him. Is Joe Hayden
Speaker 1: is still Joe Hayden by the way, No, I don't
Speaker 1: think he is. And I think that's why you potentially
Speaker 1: trade him. Yeah, alright, Colleen, what do you got? Okay?
Speaker 1: I got Michael Kendricks, Eagles linebacker. He requested a trade.
Speaker 1: He asked the team to either trade him or release
Speaker 1: him um this offseason. That obviously did not happen. He's
Speaker 1: kind of struggled to find a spot in Jim Schwartz's defense.
Speaker 1: So he wasn't on the field a lot last year
Speaker 1: and that's sort of why his production is the way
Speaker 1: that it is. It looks from last season. He's only
Speaker 1: twenty six years old, and you know where you could
Speaker 1: send him Miami. So here's what happened. You have points
Speaker 1: that was what sort of accident was that I thought
Speaker 1: you were doing. But I'm getting excited about this because
Speaker 1: I started to nerd out about it a little bit.
Speaker 1: So Ray Kwon McMillan, he's out for the season now
Speaker 1: because of the torn a c L and you have
Speaker 1: Michael Kendricks who's played both strong and weak side linebacker
Speaker 1: in A four three. The Eagles and Dolphins have joint
Speaker 1: practices next week, so you wouldn't even need to, you know,
Speaker 1: have a separate sort of cost or to take a bus,
Speaker 1: right And really, I know, I did. I I went
Speaker 1: way too far into this rabbit hole. And Michael Kendricks
Speaker 1: then would be lining up with Kiko Alonso, who they
Speaker 1: played together in Philadelphia. So it all sort of except
Speaker 1: for the four point eight million that Kendricks is getting
Speaker 1: right now. It's funny because the Eagles like shut down
Speaker 1: his request and said no, and he barely played less season,
Speaker 1: which makes me think that he is out there is
Speaker 1: a trade bait, but they need to get the right offer,
Speaker 1: and you're waiting for that right player to go down
Speaker 1: in Miami they've lost. Yeah, alright, that was good though,
Speaker 1: you did, I know? And there was like way more
Speaker 1: that you could get into more than I and I
Speaker 1: wrote the article, so um, all right, I'm gonna thrown
Speaker 1: out there. I figured this out. I figured this whole
Speaker 1: thing out with the Browns because no one's ever been
Speaker 1: able to make sense of how Brock went from being
Speaker 1: the second team guy to the starter in the first
Speaker 1: preseason game and now is he starting this week two? Well,
Speaker 1: there's there's whispers, whispers. They don't play it on Monday Nights.
Speaker 1: They're kind of like holding onto that one word, baby,
Speaker 1: one word that seems like it might be too but
Speaker 1: it's one showcase. They don't They don't want to play
Speaker 1: Brock Oswiler this season. That makes no sense for a
Speaker 1: rebuilding team. Behind the scenes, they're completely in love with
Speaker 1: the Shan Kaiser. Now, Cody Kessler is nobody's idea of
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, but they probably respect him as a backup.
Speaker 1: That all makes sense. So they have another quarterback that
Speaker 1: can slide in as the number two, and you give
Speaker 1: the Sean the week one job in the way you go.
Speaker 1: So what they're doing here, what the Browns is smart?
Speaker 1: The new regime, This this brilliant regime led by the
Speaker 1: great Sashi. It's just a showcase. They want Brock two
Speaker 1: get in there on Monday night. For the love of God,
Speaker 1: just one touchdown. Drive. Just take him down the field. Uh,
Speaker 1: do something that would make you tradeable, some slant you know,
Speaker 1: slant pattern that gets busted for a forty eight yard touchdown,
Speaker 1: something that makes brock oswall look like wait a second,
Speaker 1: Now we understand why John Elway was offering fourteen million
Speaker 1: a year, why the Texans were willing to go to
Speaker 1: sixteen million a year. All that, and then what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna ship them over to Indie because
Speaker 1: guess what Scott tell Zena getting the job done? Baby,
Speaker 1: they need a better backup plan. And brock Osweiler is
Speaker 1: a guy that kids just picture of rock Asswire in
Speaker 1: a cults uniform being bad pictures I can can I
Speaker 1: here would be my Here would be two counter arguments.
Speaker 1: One his incredible salary. Uh, they can look at the
Speaker 1: Browns can handle that. Though they have they still have flexibility.
Speaker 1: They could they could strike some sort of a deal
Speaker 1: where they take some of that. The other thing is
Speaker 1: if you're going to it, maybe if if you really
Speaker 1: don't believe in Cody Kessler and you do believe in
Speaker 1: de Shaun Kaiser, but you don't want to throw to
Speaker 1: Shaun Kaiser into the early season, part of the schedule.
Speaker 1: Then you put Osweiler in there and let him play
Speaker 1: himself out of a job. Their first four games the Steelers,
Speaker 1: the Ravens, the Cults, and the Bengals. That's a rough
Speaker 1: start for a rookie quarterback. You're saying, there's a world
Speaker 1: where you think the Browns don't trust Cody Kestler's starting material,
Speaker 1: but they need to throw somebody to the wolves, and
Speaker 1: they don't want it to be their hot shot rookie. Yes,
Speaker 1: because that because I think you can you can ruin
Speaker 1: a rookie if he goes out and he goes oh
Speaker 1: and eight or something like that, that you that you
Speaker 1: believe in in his potential. You don't want to throw
Speaker 1: him out in week one and then then after after
Speaker 1: that four weeks, stretch your home against the Jets if
Speaker 1: you want to, if you want to throw Kaiser, and
Speaker 1: then I'm just saying that. I also think that maybe
Speaker 1: it's indication that the position coaches said over and over
Speaker 1: Kaiser has potentially he is not ready to start in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Maybe they believe that too. Okay, maybe I
Speaker 1: mean kind of more of them too. Brown's analysis. I
Speaker 1: was more I wanted to talk about both side a
Speaker 1: little bit. Well, we get it tells the instincts. I
Speaker 1: love everything about this place, I love being a Brown,
Speaker 1: and I'm just very thankful to be here, not for long.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's in play, though you're it's potential. Okay,
Speaker 1: two more quick, kind of a speed round. How this
Speaker 1: with Joe Mixon looking like an absolute starting running back
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, Jeremy Hill actually look good in that preseason game.
Speaker 1: Talk about showcasing someone that's not a total mess. Jeremy
Speaker 1: Hill to the New York Giants because the Giant slash
Speaker 1: yer that running game was an issue. And they're not
Speaker 1: excited about Paul Perkins. That's the whispers that he's not
Speaker 1: shining in camp or anybody's excited about him. You've got
Speaker 1: Shane Very and you've got Orleans Dark. Well, I think
Speaker 1: Jeremy Hill is the kind of that NFC East is
Speaker 1: up for grabs if the Elliott suspension sticks, and even
Speaker 1: if it doesn't. And so you you you you fix
Speaker 1: up one of your major weaknesses on offense and you fly.
Speaker 1: I like that one. What about you? Okay? How about
Speaker 1: Philip Dorset to the forty Niners, former first round pick.
Speaker 1: He hasn't lived up to his expectations. Plus you look
Speaker 1: at the wide receivers how they're lining up right now.
Speaker 1: Chester Rogers has moved ahead of Philip Dorset on the
Speaker 1: depth chart to the third wide receiver. Camarigan might not
Speaker 1: even make the team, so they have a lot of
Speaker 1: depth there. And the forty Niners obviously could use a
Speaker 1: compliment to pr Garson, somebody with some speed. And Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 1: We know what his track record is with young receivers
Speaker 1: and talent, and we saw what he did last year
Speaker 1: in Atlanta with Mosa New and Taylor gay A Brill
Speaker 1: and Julio Jones. Obviously totally different team, but I think
Speaker 1: Kyle Shannon would be able to make it work like that.
Speaker 1: They get some young pieces. That's straight from your article,
Speaker 1: with a little bit more some things peppered in. I
Speaker 1: didn't rip it right off. Can you give us another
Speaker 1: Miami before we go? I don't even know what I said, Mimi,
Speaker 1: you were you're very excited, kind of like that. There
Speaker 1: was a little there was some sort of flavor to it,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know if I can recreate it.
Speaker 1: Um All right, Thanks guys, good stuff. A lot of
Speaker 1: good stuff. Yes, uh shout out to sweet wonderful Chris
Speaker 1: Westling as he uh goes through surgery today and hopefully
Speaker 1: on the other side of it is getting back to
Speaker 1: us sooner rather than later. We don't know a timetable yet,
Speaker 1: but we hope West's is back in this chair. As
Speaker 1: much as I love having Colleen next time, I can't
Speaker 1: wait for west to be back in this chair too.
Speaker 1: That is West's chair, and uh we need him here
Speaker 1: as soon as possible, so we'll keep the audience informed
Speaker 1: as that process goes long. But thanks to everyone. Remember
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