Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast can't handle their kombucha. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus and I am joined by
Speaker 1: a room failed with some heroes. Mark Cussler to my left,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal on my ride. What's up boys? Hey? Now,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be my new catchphrase that you like. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's been used, I feel like. But if you
Speaker 1: want to roll, got some, it's got some, you know,
Speaker 1: tread on its. Hey now, um, what I wanted to
Speaker 1: say to you, Greg, was that these glasses you're wearing, yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of remind me of Richard Gear from Unfaithful. Is that? Uh,
Speaker 1: I'll take that as a compliment. I like middle aged
Speaker 1: women everywhere just getting excited thinking about me, like a
Speaker 1: sensitive West Westchester art dealer who looks like he has
Speaker 1: the perfect life, but if you look just a little
Speaker 1: bit closer, it's all falling apart. That's kind of the
Speaker 1: vibe you give off with his glasses. I'll take that.
Speaker 1: I mean to live in Westchester. It's more just like
Speaker 1: a chill, you know. It's a it's a quiet, kind
Speaker 1: of somber day at the office, somber alright, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: hasn't been a great week. He has been a great week.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna get into it has not been the
Speaker 1: best week. Uh. One thing that we we will touch
Speaker 1: down here is West. His chair is empty to the
Speaker 1: left right now. He went through his surgery on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and everything is is going well. He's in recovery right now,
Speaker 1: and we're actually three of us are going to go
Speaker 1: visit him after the podcast today and we're all excited
Speaker 1: to do that and see West as he begins the
Speaker 1: next stage and his uh uh fight against cancer that
Speaker 1: was obliterated. Uh and hopefully it is now a complete
Speaker 1: thing of the past. So um, shout out to our
Speaker 1: the great Chris Westling. I'm hoping to get some hospital
Speaker 1: food all him there not eating a lot of food today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if the food there didn't
Speaker 1: wasn't getting great reviews. West was very excited though, uh
Speaker 1: that they started to allow him to eat ice chips
Speaker 1: after a couple of days. I don't think he would
Speaker 1: try to sugarcoat this is a This was a serious
Speaker 1: surgery along surgery and so it's gonna be a serious
Speaker 1: recovery from it. But he was singing the praises of
Speaker 1: his doctor for really standing up to what he felt
Speaker 1: was an armada of non thinking nurses who were not
Speaker 1: allowing him to swallow the ice chips. And some doctor
Speaker 1: came in and like laid down the law. And he
Speaker 1: was talking about this doctor like, uh, like a war hero. Interesting,
Speaker 1: like I do remember both of my wife's um pregnancias.
Speaker 1: And then when the baby came that ice chips were
Speaker 1: like high up on the list. Oh, you're constantly as
Speaker 1: the husband, You're going down the hall in those big
Speaker 1: pink cups to get the ice chips to bring back
Speaker 1: for various reasons. Yeah, this will and I'm very lucky
Speaker 1: that this is the case. I have not been back
Speaker 1: in the hospitals since the birth of my second son.
Speaker 1: Hospitals are weird, not my favorite place in the world.
Speaker 1: But to see West, it's worth, you know, going over there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We can talk about it more on the ice Chips
Speaker 1: podcast coming up Save It Summer. Say. That's kind of
Speaker 1: low down the vanity pod list save for the unfaithful
Speaker 1: podcasts and for the Ice Chips podcast. Today's show, UH
Speaker 1: is a good one, presented of course by our friends
Speaker 1: at new era. Uh. We are going to get into
Speaker 1: some preseason football games that occurred on Thursday. Uh, just
Speaker 1: like some takeaways, um, including of course more trouble in Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: trouble that they have. You know, we'll get into it,
Speaker 1: but trouble that Jacksonville should have seen coming. And now
Speaker 1: it's the chickens are coming home to roost as it were.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what's happened. Also, Hey, big eclipse coming coming
Speaker 1: to the Old Earth. There's gonna be a lunar No,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a solar eclips Yeah, full solar eclips solar.
Speaker 1: You never go full solar. But we are uh Earth
Speaker 1: that is and um and we're gonna talk about who
Speaker 1: in the NFL is getting eclipsed. M that's a way
Speaker 1: to tie you in the cosmos with uh. You know
Speaker 1: this just an earthbound sport. We have a tremendously popular
Speaker 1: podcast in terms of download numbers and critical acclaim. Uh.
Speaker 1: And we we won best that you know what we
Speaker 1: forget about. We won Best of iTunes, Best New Podcast.
Speaker 1: We forgot that too. We won the Best of the
Speaker 1: Best New iTunes in two thousand twelve. And then I
Speaker 1: think we won the Stitcher in thirteen. Now it's a
Speaker 1: little bit of a driving Awards shelf has failed to
Speaker 1: grow at such a pace since. Um anyway, I can't
Speaker 1: remember what my point is, but oh yeah, the fact
Speaker 1: that we could work in this like natural phenomenon talk
Speaker 1: into football, you know, beat that competitors. It's next level stuff,
Speaker 1: next level stuff. All right? Before we do that? You
Speaker 1: know what else? I was thinking, not to get ahead
Speaker 1: of ourselves. You know, Halloween falls during the football season.
Speaker 1: What if like right around that we do like we
Speaker 1: pick which NFL players are a trick in which I
Speaker 1: like that. I'm not gonna find that anywhere else. By
Speaker 1: the way, I would suggest that by Tuesday night that
Speaker 1: seven or eight other media platforms will have Eclipse topical
Speaker 1: Eclipse segments. I can already see this. Uh. And if
Speaker 1: the other thing we could do, if the thirty first
Speaker 1: falls on our third show the week, we could actually
Speaker 1: load up and do two segments. One will be trick
Speaker 1: or Treat and then another segment on another show fifty
Speaker 1: minutes on it spookiest subplots in the NFL. You have
Speaker 1: to get ahead of these things. Last year and no
Speaker 1: one else copied us on this, we did our Halloween
Speaker 1: video special in early September, threw some people for a loop.
Speaker 1: But management wasn't watching. At least they weren't. Then we weren't.
Speaker 1: We weren't asked to do many more videos after we
Speaker 1: did our Halloween special in September. Okay, anyway, but I'm
Speaker 1: the glass. You know, she's making waves, She's making a
Speaker 1: name for herself. I think you've seen it. I'm sure
Speaker 1: you have if you're a listener, and if you haven't,
Speaker 1: get on Twitter. I think all of us uh fellows
Speaker 1: in the room right now retweeted it. Erica with a
Speaker 1: statement of intent with a video that she put out
Speaker 1: um trumpeting her arrival. Welcome Erica, how are you today
Speaker 1: getting her? Are you? Guys? What a statement short on
Speaker 1: the words. But when she put this, I think everyone
Speaker 1: needs to check. What is your Twitter handle? Erica tim post,
Speaker 1: NFL post the NFL t A M P O s
Speaker 1: I NFL. Yeah, everyone follow her and this, uh, this
Speaker 1: video was was special. But it really stood out to
Speaker 1: me which I hadn't seen yet, was Erica's Twitter profile
Speaker 1: where she really like, I feel like I've tried to
Speaker 1: put a good name on Patriots fans for the audience.
Speaker 1: But I think she really leans into the lean into
Speaker 1: the Boston like you are the obnoxious Boston sports fan.
Speaker 1: According to let me remind the haters three football hashtag
Speaker 1: Pats Nation. I love it. It's so great, like how
Speaker 1: like it's Greg's It's amazing, it's amazing. I love it.
Speaker 1: You are the mouthpiece for what Greg's always been wanting
Speaker 1: to be. He wants to be this person that could
Speaker 1: be out in front like this, but he has to hide.
Speaker 1: You can't go to any other any other franchise and
Speaker 1: have like a tailgate like you do in New England.
Speaker 1: I want you to try to prove your winning over
Speaker 1: the die hard Jets fan in here, that's for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's come down with the New England tailgate. They barely
Speaker 1: had a franchise before Tom Brady got to town. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest. I mean maybe all right, Erica, We're still
Speaker 1: happy that you're here despite some of these developments. You're
Speaker 1: doing a great work. Let's do some news. I was
Speaker 1: the atmosphere in the pace different from Green Bay. It's hotter,
Speaker 1: it raise a lot to which that's different. But I
Speaker 1: love you too, bro. Who's that Eddie Lacy from Seahawks,
Speaker 1: Eddie Lazy. All right, let's start uh with the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: Jaguars and Blake Bortles, who, as as time has gone
Speaker 1: on this summer, things of snowballed on Blake a little bit,
Speaker 1: uh in the sense that you started to get some
Speaker 1: after the spring of buzz, and I believe Tom Cofley
Speaker 1: would come out and saying that his mechanics are mostly fixed.
Speaker 1: We continued to hear reports that things weren't going so
Speaker 1: swimmingly in practice. And now the preseason is two games
Speaker 1: deep and Bordles suffered through a miserable performance on Thursday
Speaker 1: night against the Buccaneers. His stat line eight of thirteen
Speaker 1: for sixty five yards, but that didn't really tell the
Speaker 1: true story mark of how bad Bortles was. Let's start there.
Speaker 1: What tell me your thoughts on Blake World's performance in
Speaker 1: week two of the preseason. I cannot forget to play.
Speaker 1: We saw last night where Allen Robinson gets open between
Speaker 1: a cornerback and his safety about thirty yards downfield. Blake
Speaker 1: Bortles completely boxes the throw mrs him by an incredible amount.
Speaker 1: This is a guy that at one point, you know,
Speaker 1: early in his career, was high up on the league
Speaker 1: leaders list and seasons of his twenty plus yard throws
Speaker 1: and completions, and it's not on the receivers. Blake Portles
Speaker 1: is the guy that concerned us last year. And it's
Speaker 1: another reminder that the problem with the Jaguars when they
Speaker 1: do have other elements of their team that are developing
Speaker 1: their defense, that when we spend the off season saying
Speaker 1: they're ready to make the leap, they're ready to do this.
Speaker 1: I agree with the defense, but the catch was always
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles. And despite the offseason, you know, semantic saying
Speaker 1: that he's fixed this and that he looks to me
Speaker 1: like the same guy, and last night it put his
Speaker 1: job obviously utterly in danger. Yes, Mark's right, there is
Speaker 1: now this this idea that maybe the job is not safe,
Speaker 1: which is crazy. Here's what Doug Morone had to say
Speaker 1: after the game on the status of his quarterback situation.
Speaker 1: It's it's just simple. I'm not going to try to
Speaker 1: make this thing complicated. I'm looking for the best person
Speaker 1: and to lead our offense right up there for grabs,
Speaker 1: and either person can take it. It's not like he's
Speaker 1: not the quarterback. He's gotta go aren't translated Greg translation,
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles is unlikely to be our Week one starter.
Speaker 1: Chad Henny is gonna be the guy. I mean they
Speaker 1: The part I don't understand is if you're willing to
Speaker 1: pull Blake Bortles after two preseason appearances which amounted to
Speaker 1: a handful of drives fiving completions last night and he
Speaker 1: looked terrible, He just like looks out of it, then
Speaker 1: what were you doing bringing him back as your quarterback?
Speaker 1: You it? There's so little margin for error that in
Speaker 1: the first week, first home game of the preseason, the
Speaker 1: crowd is booing the home team within a driver too,
Speaker 1: like that's not the way you want to enter your season.
Speaker 1: And this is not second guessing. This was first guessing
Speaker 1: on this podcast back in February. Where for weeks in February,
Speaker 1: because we didn't have that much to talk about, we
Speaker 1: were hammering the jack are its weird decision to publicly
Speaker 1: double down on Bordles and bring back Chad Henny, which
Speaker 1: signified not only are we gonna bring back Bordles, but
Speaker 1: we're not going to really give him any competition. I
Speaker 1: guess in theory, Henny is the competition and they're just
Speaker 1: rolling into the season, and I think it's fair to
Speaker 1: wonder if Bordles even gonna be on the team at
Speaker 1: this point. Well, the other thing we suggested a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago is that Bordles potentially could be trade baits.
Speaker 1: I don't say we just own it, Mark, I just
Speaker 1: think also a trade is not going to happen, because
Speaker 1: what are you gonna trade. What are you gonna trade
Speaker 1: for Blake? Four? What are you gonna get for Blake
Speaker 1: Bortles at this point. But it's amazing to see how
Speaker 1: quickly his career has gone completely off track, because this
Speaker 1: is a couple of seasons ago saying when we were
Speaker 1: right or wrong about things. We also looked at Blake
Speaker 1: Bordles completely differently a couple of seasons going thought he
Speaker 1: was one of the more promising quarterbacks in the a
Speaker 1: f C. But we didn't. In that case. Was always
Speaker 1: on the fence about Blake. If you recall a lot
Speaker 1: of garbage time production, even when he was putting up numbers.
Speaker 1: And now it's kind of falling off the cliff a
Speaker 1: little bit, but he was always a guy that was
Speaker 1: always kind of a little bit of suspicion about whether
Speaker 1: he was the real deal. I thought physically there was
Speaker 1: a lot to like. But it just makes me look
Speaker 1: at young quarterbacks today that even surge in year one
Speaker 1: and two, that you cannot completely know the script within
Speaker 1: one season or two. Well, it's such a mental position.
Speaker 1: He's not like an West had you know, noted that
Speaker 1: quote I believe last November, which which Bortles had said
Speaker 1: too rich Gannon, which is, you know, I'm not really
Speaker 1: a natural thrower of the football in Gan insane. I've
Speaker 1: never heard a quarterback to say that in my life.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's mental to this point. He was a
Speaker 1: better thrower, not a not a good one a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. And I think Marone sees how it's
Speaker 1: mental and he just can't sell to the rest of
Speaker 1: the team, like going with this guy when they've got
Speaker 1: a lot of talent on the rest of this. This
Speaker 1: is how toxic it has gotten to, is that the
Speaker 1: Jaguar players aren't even really trying to hide this anymore,
Speaker 1: and it's all there and if you if you're following
Speaker 1: these practices. And in social media, there was an Espionation
Speaker 1: blog that posted a uh did some type of Instagram
Speaker 1: post about who can possibly replace portals as the starter
Speaker 1: and Jalen Ramsey clicked like on it. Yeah, there was
Speaker 1: a video that kind of went viral. Uh that Pewter Report,
Speaker 1: which is the Bucks website um sent out from a
Speaker 1: practice where Bordles wildly overthrew Allen Robinson and then Robinson
Speaker 1: was picked up by the iPhone Mike saying keep that inbounds,
Speaker 1: bro damn h. So you could just tell the frustration
Speaker 1: that the teams the players have. He doesn't have the
Speaker 1: support of the players and he's not performing. This all
Speaker 1: seems like it's trending in a direction. And one last thing,
Speaker 1: like with Maron, it wasn't like last night, Uh, you
Speaker 1: know tip the scales, you know against played Bordles. This
Speaker 1: is a coach that weeks ago was saying if he
Speaker 1: had his truthers, they would not throw the ball once
Speaker 1: the entire game. Talk about something that's not happening in
Speaker 1: the NFL. How many coaches walk around saying that about
Speaker 1: the quarterback. It is such a weird situation. No, we
Speaker 1: should move on, but it feels like a waste of
Speaker 1: a year because the there's a good chance that they'll
Speaker 1: be a different quarter back next year. Who knows if
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin is gonna wanna keep Doug Moron or the
Speaker 1: GM Like, I don't know, Maybe maybe Chad Henny will
Speaker 1: be just good enough with a good defense and running
Speaker 1: game that you win seven games and you convince yourself
Speaker 1: you know, at least you're moving in the next direction,
Speaker 1: Like there are worse quarterbacks in the NFL than Chad Henny.
Speaker 1: But if you're a Jaguars fan entering a season with
Speaker 1: him as your Week one starter, not that it's official yet,
Speaker 1: we're just kind of reading the tea leaves, that's pretty depressing.
Speaker 1: It was Colin Kaepernick have to do to get a
Speaker 1: job at this point. Um moving on the Indianapolis Colts,
Speaker 1: um are going to be missing a dependable player center
Speaker 1: Ryan Kill Kelly there two thousand and sixteen first round pick,
Speaker 1: had a very nice season as a rookie. He needs
Speaker 1: surgery on his foot. He broke a bone in practice
Speaker 1: about a week ago, and now they're um going down
Speaker 1: the surgical route, so he is most likely gonna end
Speaker 1: up where he is gonna end up. Um on the
Speaker 1: I R boomerang, which means he'll miss uh six weeks
Speaker 1: of action before being designated to its earn and then
Speaker 1: it could be longer after that. But in any case, Greg,
Speaker 1: this is not good news for a line that is not,
Speaker 1: let's face it, it's not the two thousand sixteen Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys offensive line to start with, and now you take
Speaker 1: out one of their keypees, it's not. And they felt
Speaker 1: like they had finally built something with Kelly Muhor at
Speaker 1: left guard and Costanzo at left tackle that actually, you know,
Speaker 1: we've got the makings of a group we can grow
Speaker 1: up with. Well I was, I was in Indianapolis for
Speaker 1: these practices, and I think this Kelly news really hit
Speaker 1: Chuck Bugano hard because after Thursday's practice in which the
Speaker 1: offense struggled again, I I've not been at that many
Speaker 1: practices in my life, but I can't imagine that if
Speaker 1: I had, I'd ever see a practices were an offense
Speaker 1: struggled to just complete a pass more than the Colts
Speaker 1: for two straight days and that the completion percentage had
Speaker 1: to be under like a Wednesday. It was outrageous. Scott Tolzine,
Speaker 1: and their backup quarterback right now is Philip Walker, who's
Speaker 1: a five and five eleven guy undrafted from Temple. Really
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, who wasn't getting anything done in
Speaker 1: Tolsine was probably worse. I mean, they're they're people are
Speaker 1: kind of joking like what's the point of even having
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton out there? Like he hasn't what has
Speaker 1: he gotten out of this training camp there? They just
Speaker 1: can't even operate an offense. And then Pagano afterwards started
Speaker 1: getting very frustrated just talking about essentially the offense, how
Speaker 1: much work that they have to do. Even though their
Speaker 1: training camp was break breaking. New Heart has been out,
Speaker 1: Kelly's out, Chester Rodgers, who was looking like a starter,
Speaker 1: has been out. Donte Moncrief has been out, Philip Dorset
Speaker 1: has been in and out. It's like they had already
Speaker 1: had problems and and now all these injuries. It's just
Speaker 1: Pogano felt like a man where like the world was
Speaker 1: caving in on him a little bit. Well, and yet
Speaker 1: it's a repeat of decision making from years past. Why
Speaker 1: do you if you know that Andrew Luck is not
Speaker 1: going to operate during the off season, it might be
Speaker 1: not even there for week one? What's the decision making
Speaker 1: process in Indianapolis that says Scott Tolzine is the best
Speaker 1: thing we can do a backup quarterback. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: you draft someone else, but we just brought up Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's any chance this team says we
Speaker 1: have to do something more for our team and our
Speaker 1: fan base. I don't think at this point there is.
Speaker 1: I thought they believed that Tolsine was gonna be good
Speaker 1: enough and that Luck will be back early in the season.
Speaker 1: Maybe he will. Maybe Luck will be back, and a
Speaker 1: lot of these injuries aren't long term injuries. Kelly's is,
Speaker 1: and maybe he'll save the day. But otherwise, you know,
Speaker 1: with with all their new starters on defense, I mean,
Speaker 1: they were trying out a guy in t J. Green
Speaker 1: as their starting cornerback that was on Wednesday, that was
Speaker 1: told an hour before practice for the first time ever
Speaker 1: that he was converting from safety to cornerback and he
Speaker 1: just went right in as a starter. And so that's
Speaker 1: high school stuff. So this is a team that's searching
Speaker 1: for some things. I think there's some things to like
Speaker 1: to about the team, you know, I thought that at
Speaker 1: least on this podcast, like a month and a half ago,
Speaker 1: there was I think the front seven could end up
Speaker 1: being better and if Luck gets back, they certainly have
Speaker 1: enough receiving talent to make some noise. I mean, my boy,
Speaker 1: Frank Gore is on the team. UH yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: always fun. But it's always good to have a forty
Speaker 1: something running back there. If they're if stabilized things, if
Speaker 1: Tolsine is starting for them, I don't think they're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to win any games until the lux back
Speaker 1: and other Center news. Everybody loves center news save for
Speaker 1: the center. Guess what this is the Center podcast. Justin
Speaker 1: Britt signed a three year extension Thursday with the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: UH deals with twenty seven million UH urns over thirteen
Speaker 1: million in the first year of that deal. UH second
Speaker 1: round pick in two thousand and fourteen. So that's a
Speaker 1: big hit on a draft pick. Started sixteen games at
Speaker 1: right tackles rookie fifteen more games last year at Garden Center. UH.
Speaker 1: They love him, he's healthy. Good for the Seahawks. UH. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: on the throne of sleeves. Now, as you recall, the
Speaker 1: Patriots UH didn't pick until the third round of the
Speaker 1: draft this spring. UH, and they selected Derek Rivers, a
Speaker 1: player that obviously they believed was a nice fit in
Speaker 1: their system. A guy that could rush the quarterback from
Speaker 1: the edge. Makes some things happen potentially this season. Well
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen this season because rap sheet reported
Speaker 1: that an m R I revealed that Rivers towards a
Speaker 1: c L and sprained and and U L c L.
Speaker 1: This is an issue right for the Patriots. They are
Speaker 1: that they're coming from such a position of strength, but
Speaker 1: their pass rush is not top notch. No, I think
Speaker 1: ed rusher is their biggest weakness. But four Rivers got hurt.
Speaker 1: He hadn't really been necessarily making a big impression that
Speaker 1: he was gonna be a big factor, that that was
Speaker 1: potentially gonna be a problem because Cony Eally, who people
Speaker 1: including this room you know, gave some credit. This was
Speaker 1: a no risk, you know, high reward move. They might
Speaker 1: not get much out of it. Sounds like he might
Speaker 1: not even make that I was gonna say, is he Well,
Speaker 1: Rivers getting hurt, you with think would help them. But
Speaker 1: they have another third round pick just from a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, Gino Grissom, which has really never made
Speaker 1: any noise. I mean, Trey Flowers is a defensive end.
Speaker 1: He's one of their best defensive players. And after that,
Speaker 1: it's pretty thin. Well, you lost Rob Ninkovic, so that
Speaker 1: that doesn't help at all. And the Patriots, though the
Speaker 1: Tower can play out there if you want them to,
Speaker 1: but then you end up hurting a different part of
Speaker 1: the team. They have a rookie fourth rounder Dietrich Wise,
Speaker 1: if the season started today, he's possibly starting. I mean,
Speaker 1: it becomes exhausting to say this about New England, but
Speaker 1: they find a way more than any other team to
Speaker 1: patch over these kind of issues where it would cause
Speaker 1: utter destruction for other other clubs. Who who's concerned that
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a major issue for the Patriot
Speaker 1: You know who's not concerned? Damo over there? Well, I
Speaker 1: think behind the glass and maybe the last time we
Speaker 1: hear that, you know, either any sort of alien attack
Speaker 1: on Foxborough. All those sound clips are going getting You
Speaker 1: just changed your Twitter profile the six Rings Booze Boston rules. Um,
Speaker 1: I like it. We kind of have like it's almost
Speaker 1: like having a Boston towny behind the glass. This is exciting.
Speaker 1: What's that movie? What's that good movie? I'm sure our
Speaker 1: listeners wanted more Patriots talk. Yeah, what's the Beautiful Girls?
Speaker 1: Yeah that's good town movie. Yes it is. You don't
Speaker 1: have a young Natalie Port don't really do you have
Speaker 1: a strong New Hampshire accent. It's too bad that can be.
Speaker 1: That can be a tough one. Greg's favorite towny movie,
Speaker 1: Garden State. Obviously anything breath of Greg's got Gregg in here.
Speaker 1: You got tam Post who got a very deep, disturbing
Speaker 1: masshole vibe in this in this studio. Great uh great
Speaker 1: soundtrack for Garden State. Probably the probably the movie that
Speaker 1: held up the worst of any movie from that entire decade.
Speaker 1: Another another Natalie portmant natally Pormant in every sort of
Speaker 1: small town. That was a movie where I was like it.
Speaker 1: I was like, it really really moved me when I
Speaker 1: saw it in the theater and I saw it five
Speaker 1: years later and I was like embarrassed for my younger.
Speaker 1: It's trapped in a certain times. Definitely had this exact
Speaker 1: conversation on this podcast Sportman, who started basically she created
Speaker 1: the manic pixie dream girl archaeo type in movies, and
Speaker 1: that was her doing it when she was like ten,
Speaker 1: and then her doing it when she was twenty and
Speaker 1: in age like eight with the professionals. So yeah, exactly, Hey,
Speaker 1: let's head into the Ravens nest real quick, Hey went
Speaker 1: in doubt head into the nest. UH. I want to
Speaker 1: talk about Justin Tucker real quick. Just this was a
Speaker 1: wrote about this on the end around this morning. You know,
Speaker 1: you know I love Justin Tucker as a player. I'm
Speaker 1: very confident that the UH Ravens will win a host
Speaker 1: of eighteen sixteen games with Tucker just going nuts week
Speaker 1: after week. He's the bizarro Iguayo. UH. You can always
Speaker 1: count on him. He did something very interesting though, I
Speaker 1: thought in UH Thursday's preseason game where he attempted to
Speaker 1: UH he had a kickoff that was fumbled by a
Speaker 1: Dolphin special teamer and he attended intend instead of falling
Speaker 1: on it because he ended up in the neighborhood of
Speaker 1: the ball. He tried to scoop and score. And the
Speaker 1: reason this is interesting is if you follow Justin Tucker's career,
Speaker 1: he's kind of it's kind of a bro He's kind
Speaker 1: of like a kicker that's got a bit of an
Speaker 1: attitude to him. He's like the bos of kickers on
Speaker 1: some level, uh in the way he carries himself. And
Speaker 1: the reason I bring this up is they asked him
Speaker 1: about his decision to try to scoop and score. He
Speaker 1: was pile drive by a pound defensive defensive tackle while
Speaker 1: making the play, which I'm sure the coaching Steph didn't love.
Speaker 1: But this is what Justin Tucker had to say. I
Speaker 1: don't ever let anybody put that evil on me as
Speaker 1: saying something as audacious as kickers aren't football players. In
Speaker 1: a game where points win, you're leading score is probably
Speaker 1: going to be your kicker. And I'm literally doing the
Speaker 1: most football thing in football. I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 1: The tag, I'll leave it at that takes it to
Speaker 1: the next level. Thoughts, Well, I think he's probably the
Speaker 1: most valuable player and he's probably going to not only
Speaker 1: lead them in scoring, but to an incredible in terms
Speaker 1: of percentage of points score. It could be an incredible
Speaker 1: With Flacco out, he may have to do he may
Speaker 1: have to score some touchdown. That's not what I was asking.
Speaker 1: By the way, what are you asking about his attitude?
Speaker 1: Don't run from the question mark you you you labeled
Speaker 1: him as sort of browish, and it does. It did
Speaker 1: come across a little browish, But I'm not surprised he
Speaker 1: said have a bunch of those players he doesn't want
Speaker 1: anyone to put that evil on him, right, that kickers
Speaker 1: aren't real athletes. But who was meeting him on the
Speaker 1: sideline immediately after this play, essentially openly mocking him was
Speaker 1: Terrell Sucks. And I don't think he was saying anything
Speaker 1: much back to Tharrell sucks, and Arrell Sucks can put
Speaker 1: that evil on him. Sucks a great guy. This does.
Speaker 1: This does tie into you know, keep an eye on kickers,
Speaker 1: especially ones that have some success. Remember Matt Prater at
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl a few weeks ago, a few years back,
Speaker 1: where he was like he had a big diamond studded
Speaker 1: in his ear and he was like showing up, or
Speaker 1: he was basically they put him in that pen on
Speaker 1: media day. Remember I don't think they really do it anymore,
Speaker 1: but they used to put like the non star guys
Speaker 1: and the special teamers and like a pen that they
Speaker 1: couldn't escape. And anyway, Matt prateror was like pretending to
Speaker 1: lean in to talk to reporters and then ducking his
Speaker 1: head out and like like with a smug smile, like
Speaker 1: you know, he was going full Prater and he's been
Speaker 1: on your radar since that. Yeah, that was a huge
Speaker 1: subplot for you you. Yeah, you were, you were. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've had a number of Super Bowl encounters with their
Speaker 1: variety of players, but that was the top five. You've
Speaker 1: had a connor or length grudge here. I just thought, like,
Speaker 1: I'll I'll borrow the word the Tucker used. That was
Speaker 1: an audacious move by Matt Prator to be big timing
Speaker 1: reporters at media day. I thought, that's all I can't
Speaker 1: argue with that. Don't put that evil on me. Matt
Speaker 1: Prador about that. Finally in the news, Uh, he's like,
Speaker 1: if anyone gets back to him on this, and like,
Speaker 1: what what? Zero memory of the way? Anyway, Finally in
Speaker 1: the news, I thought this was cute, guys. Um, because
Speaker 1: football is fun, Football's family. It's very important to keep
Speaker 1: that in mind. And uh, did you know that the
Speaker 1: Titans a decision made by head coach Mike Malarkey, um,
Speaker 1: have decided to reschedule their practice on Monday. And do
Speaker 1: you know why? You do know? But pretend you don't know,
Speaker 1: I Dan, why don't you tell us? Because Nashville is
Speaker 1: the biggest um North American or at least I should
Speaker 1: say American city in the path of a full solar
Speaker 1: eclipse total solar eclipse? So what did uh? What did
Speaker 1: Malarkey do? He changed the schedule so they'd be on
Speaker 1: the field when the eclipse happens at one pm Central
Speaker 1: Time on Monday. He's gonna stop practice and they're all
Speaker 1: gonna watch this, uh together. It has not happened. Give it.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm curious, first of all, if you guys
Speaker 1: read the end around. Second, if you can come closest,
Speaker 1: when was the last time a full solar eclipse took place?
Speaker 1: What you think it was about a hundred years ago?
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken you. I heard this on children's
Speaker 1: podcast that my daughter forces me to listen to those
Speaker 1: exist on the way back from Swien. It's super educational,
Speaker 1: so I can't hold it against here, but I think
Speaker 1: it was like nineteen twenty nine or something like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine is the year off that'sh the so
Speaker 1: the Tennessee capital is the largest city in its path. Uh.
Speaker 1: And Malarkey had this to say, I actually did change
Speaker 1: the schedule. I adjusted the schedule so we will be
Speaker 1: practicing during it. I went back once we found out
Speaker 1: about it and rerouted the schedule, so we're all out
Speaker 1: here together to see it. That's a nice job. Malarkey
Speaker 1: who's been blind for being sort of a dull individual.
Speaker 1: Uh well, I think he goes against that type right
Speaker 1: here exciting. It's kind of like it's there are all,
Speaker 1: there are so many hey kids, let's go to the
Speaker 1: science fair. Well, you know, Greg, your daughter, you know,
Speaker 1: begging to learn in the car on the ride home,
Speaker 1: and she's having you know, please daddy, let me learn things.
Speaker 1: But like, no, let's listen to the Lord again. All
Speaker 1: I'd say, there are so many cheesy team building uh
Speaker 1: levers you can pull that we hear about. Oh, coach
Speaker 1: X took the team bowling. Oh yeah, we've heard that
Speaker 1: four thousand times. This at least is highly original. You're
Speaker 1: going to sit out the entire Titans roster to stare
Speaker 1: at in the clipse. I mean, you know, please have
Speaker 1: the proper eye wear. But this, this to me, is
Speaker 1: a whole new way to travel. If they land in
Speaker 1: un mass on injured reserve, blinding themselves, big problem eighty
Speaker 1: nine deep retinal injuries, Daddy, please teach me about life
Speaker 1: on this car right, Um, No, listen to a kid's
Speaker 1: podcast click educational. You missed talking. That's what she won
Speaker 1: the opposite, I say no, can we listen to the mute?
Speaker 1: Can we listen to music? She's so we negotiated. On
Speaker 1: the way there, we listened to Daddy's music. On the
Speaker 1: way back, we listened to does she call it a
Speaker 1: wow in the world? Wow in the world is that
Speaker 1: it's called? It's like sciences. You know, I've learned some
Speaker 1: things from I'll get my kids involved with that podcast.
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Speaker 1: of the pod? Like that? Could we should get some music?
Speaker 1: I would love to do that, Little Bonnie Tyler, will
Speaker 1: we get something like give me? Yeah? Maybe we could
Speaker 1: work on that. Erica, can you add in post? We
Speaker 1: won't even hear it, but something that's similar to Bonnie
Speaker 1: Tyler's total Eclipse of the Heart. Okay, good, um, who
Speaker 1: is getting eclipsed in the NFL? Right now? What does
Speaker 1: eclipse mean? Mark? Well, I mean, I mean there's a
Speaker 1: number of meanings, but I would say, outshine that whatever
Speaker 1: position you have, Yeah, you're out, you're out, You're blocked.
Speaker 1: You're blocked out, blotted out. You were there and then
Speaker 1: something comes along to just block you. No one's easy,
Speaker 1: no sunlight touching you anymore, Sunshine removed, steal my sunshine,
Speaker 1: don't ever do it. Remember the old short story about
Speaker 1: the girl who lived in a land where there was
Speaker 1: no sunshine. Ever, it only reigned. And then one day
Speaker 1: the other students locked her in the closet because they
Speaker 1: were mean. And while she was locked in the closet,
Speaker 1: it was the one day of sunshine in like a
Speaker 1: hundred years, and they left her in there. She missed it.
Speaker 1: That was like an R. Kelly video or locked in
Speaker 1: a closet, Trapped in a closet, nobody. That doesn't ring
Speaker 1: it time to start writing children's novels. If that's what
Speaker 1: the plots are, I mean, we could come up with
Speaker 1: a lot of that. If anyone knows that I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: please hit me up on Twitter because that was something
Speaker 1: that I read as a child and it did affect
Speaker 1: me just in the callousness of the children. Pretty dark. Anyway,
Speaker 1: who is getting eclipsed? Mark? You get us going? I
Speaker 1: will keep this one. I'll keep this brief because I
Speaker 1: think we touched on it, so not to believe o
Speaker 1: the point, but connecting the dots from what's happening already
Speaker 1: with the Jaguar season. You know, David Caldwell has been
Speaker 1: given the chance in Jacksonville for a long long time
Speaker 1: to build a roster that by all accounts, we look
Speaker 1: at that roster and we say there is a lot
Speaker 1: of talent here and maybe it comes together on defense.
Speaker 1: But now you have two new figures in Tom Coughlin
Speaker 1: and and your coach Doug Marone that are saddled at
Speaker 1: Greg you mentioned it could be a lost year because
Speaker 1: you're saddled with this quarterback situation, and this is the
Speaker 1: quarterback that when you're a GM and you and you
Speaker 1: make a move in some people's mind to overdraft Blake
Speaker 1: Borders where he was drafted in that he better succeed
Speaker 1: and if he doesn't most GMS understand the understand this.
Speaker 1: Jason Light said it on Hard Knocks. We've all lost jobs.
Speaker 1: You if your quarterback does not work out, if it's
Speaker 1: the opposite of say a Jamis Winston, you encounter trouble.
Speaker 1: And I think David Caldwell is in a tough situation
Speaker 1: already in that building because people are wondering, wait, isn't
Speaker 1: it Tom Coughlin pulling the levers here? And he's picked
Speaker 1: Doug Marone, who is also an authoritarian type figure, to
Speaker 1: kind of preach his message and get tougher and turn
Speaker 1: the Jaguars from what they were into a run first,
Speaker 1: you know, ground and pound type team. And David Caldwell,
Speaker 1: you know, not that he is the talented guy. He's
Speaker 1: picked good players, but he feels like an odd man
Speaker 1: out here. If the quarterback situation is one where the
Speaker 1: Jaguars had to completely restart over at that position, potentially
Speaker 1: setting the team back where they were four or five
Speaker 1: years ago, I think that um certainly there was a
Speaker 1: time where that pick looked good. The Blake Portles pick.
Speaker 1: Now it does not look good at all. But David
Speaker 1: Caldwell has no one to blame but himself. Unless Tom Coughlin,
Speaker 1: who outranks him. Um said, hey, role with Chad Henny.
Speaker 1: I don't have any sympathy for the Jaguars because it's
Speaker 1: the same stuff over and over with them, and and
Speaker 1: just think this was happening again where people are starting
Speaker 1: to get amped up and excited about the Jags and
Speaker 1: their defense was very good last year and there are skilled,
Speaker 1: skilled players on offense, but they did this to themselves.
Speaker 1: And like when if they go for and twelve again
Speaker 1: because they have terrible quarterback play, Like that's that shouldn't
Speaker 1: be a surprise. This is what happens to Blake Bortles
Speaker 1: was giving you all the warning signs that this was
Speaker 1: what was gonna happen. This was actually, uh the one
Speaker 1: I was gonna talk about two, uh, Mark, But someone
Speaker 1: had to step in and say we need to bring
Speaker 1: someone else in here and not just retain Chad Henny,
Speaker 1: and no one ever did it. I find it awkward
Speaker 1: that Tom Coughlin is the one being interviewed, you know,
Speaker 1: by ESPN, like before the game, that he the jokes
Speaker 1: are so easy that like Cofflin's gonna be down there
Speaker 1: coaching by week six. I found it interesting, Uh, Chris Wessling.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's recovering from surgery and what did
Speaker 1: the Jaguars do but put this awful football in front
Speaker 1: of him? He made he made the observation we had
Speaker 1: the game on. He made the observation that Gruden right
Speaker 1: off the bat was saying, even before the game started
Speaker 1: that they should be playing Chad Henny instead of Blake Bortles.
Speaker 1: And you start to wonder, you know, Gruden talks to
Speaker 1: these coaches, you start to wonder, like, are these coaches
Speaker 1: or Cofflin or whoever. It is like Gruden just coming
Speaker 1: out strong that they need to bench Blake Bortles. And
Speaker 1: then by the end of the game he is bench that,
Speaker 1: Like it just seems like these guys are done with them.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't surprise me. Um alright, Eclipse more Eclipse talk.
Speaker 1: Dan is just absolutely sold on this segment. I was
Speaker 1: gonna go, yeah, I was gonna go with Colin Kaepernick's
Speaker 1: civil liberties being eclips by the system to preachy to preachy,
Speaker 1: I was gonna go with the Around the NFL podcast
Speaker 1: being eclipsed by the Throwback podcast. Every Thursday's new episode,
Speaker 1: new one coming up next week. This week, Kings of
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Speaker 1: your only podcast soon enough, so great, it's a great show.
Speaker 1: You know. Eclipse in this podcast feels like a stretch,
Speaker 1: not true. It's just not true, Um Sully. Eclipse by
Speaker 1: Tamposey feels like too soon, too soon. I don't want
Speaker 1: to go that way. And then I was gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the Jaguars, but Mark just did it, so I'm out.
Speaker 1: I'm fresh out. I mean, I shared my on our
Speaker 1: on our you know, I am client inside the building,
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm just trying to get to the weekend. Buddy,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get weekend. Uh no, you're up, Greg, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm trying. I was trying to think the ones that
Speaker 1: weren't so obvious. You know, we've talked so much about
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon sounded like Paxson Lynch had a good week
Speaker 1: of practice. Tavon Austin, we know he's been Eclipse, so
Speaker 1: let's let's get a little more bold in Eclipse, no
Speaker 1: one saw coming, and it happens to you. Happen to
Speaker 1: get the best view in Nashville. It isn't Nashville. I've
Speaker 1: been watching Derrick Henry A little bit in the preseason.
Speaker 1: De Marco Murray's out there, he's been a little banged
Speaker 1: up in the preseason. Derrick Henry to me, is a
Speaker 1: fun running back who really leans on that those defenders
Speaker 1: and it's tough to take down. I'm not saying he's
Speaker 1: necessarily gonna it's not gonna be a full eclipse this season,
Speaker 1: but how about a little bit of a partial eclipse
Speaker 1: of DeMarco Murray and his fantasy value this season? And then, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, as we're looking towards the future that becomes
Speaker 1: a full eclipse that that moon keeps moving. I'm really
Speaker 1: pushing your bit here. What about David Flewellen? Where does
Speaker 1: he fit into this solar? You love flew Ellen. He's uh,
Speaker 1: he's a little he's a little dust. So how do
Speaker 1: you how do you see a breaking down a you're
Speaker 1: talking like at fifty type split, which I think that
Speaker 1: would be a drastic Yeah. I think I think that
Speaker 1: Henry ends up getting way more of a role. And
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe Murray just stays hurt or he
Speaker 1: has an injury prone season, and Henry is a guy
Speaker 1: that shows himself when he gets the opportunity that he
Speaker 1: is more than talented enough to really carry an NFL
Speaker 1: running game. And that's how I see him do it.
Speaker 1: You're up, Mark, I'll give you one that is not
Speaker 1: a human being, just like the actual son is not
Speaker 1: a human being. But how about big, gigantic, monolithic, oversized
Speaker 1: sports arenas that house football games that were built in
Speaker 1: the seventies and eighties and early nineties, and even some
Speaker 1: today they're being built in I was going to say
Speaker 1: most of those, all right, And they continue to build
Speaker 1: these things for you know, the pack nine people, and
Speaker 1: yet our society is completely changing. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that the stub Hub Center is the is the locale
Speaker 1: for this, okay, but because because well it's this is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The NFL has done such a good
Speaker 1: job of putting football in front of people's faces through
Speaker 1: so many different ways. It's on your phone, it's on
Speaker 1: your iPad, it's on your laptop, it's on your desktop,
Speaker 1: it's on your television, it's in sports bars. It's so
Speaker 1: easy to find football without having to go to a
Speaker 1: stadium and drop a hundred and eight hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: bucks for a family afford to go. So no, I'm
Speaker 1: saying well, you're saying your laptop and your desktop. I'm
Speaker 1: saying it you can get it anywhere. Greg, I think
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But if you do, you
Speaker 1: do you drag your family to a game when, like
Speaker 1: some a f C South team is two and twelve,
Speaker 1: you know, a week before Christmas for a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: The NFL has made this top. I think they've made
Speaker 1: this tough for their fans. And this the idea of
Speaker 1: smaller stadium I like, and it's it's a positive. I'm
Speaker 1: saying that the the inglorious move of the Chargers from
Speaker 1: San Diego to Los Angeles that I think something comes
Speaker 1: out of it. It's not just the move, but a
Speaker 1: trend towards smaller stadiums that are more intimate, and they
Speaker 1: can fill these things without any issues. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: they'd all be twenty five thousand, but a much smaller
Speaker 1: venue that caters to the fact that most sports fans
Speaker 1: now are just as comfortable watching sports in front of
Speaker 1: giant TVs at home, or maybe at a Patriots or
Speaker 1: Bears bar with people like minded people, you know, versus
Speaker 1: trying to drag them to If our country used to
Speaker 1: be where you grew up, in the city you lived
Speaker 1: in as a kid, you stayed there as an adult,
Speaker 1: you stayed a fan of that team your whole life.
Speaker 1: Now in Los Angeles, for instance, it's so people from
Speaker 1: everywhere else. Everybody's rooting for a team other than in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles team for the most part, if you didn't
Speaker 1: come from here, and so you've got a cater to
Speaker 1: such a diverse community of fans that the idea you're
Speaker 1: gonna pack them into the local football stadium. But I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm not saying it's happening in this citas And
Speaker 1: I'm talking to trend though, the trend that the trend
Speaker 1: that the Yankee Stadium downsized. I think downsizing stadiums is
Speaker 1: a trend. I don't know if they're going to go
Speaker 1: down to StubHub, but it's like, I don't think to that,
Speaker 1: think about where the the a's in the Raiders, but
Speaker 1: I mean, like the stadiums like that. Maybe it's another
Speaker 1: partial eclipse, But I just think in general, the idea
Speaker 1: that we're going to get out of towners to pack
Speaker 1: it in at a hundred thousand seats stadium for a
Speaker 1: team that you didn't grow up rooting for is a
Speaker 1: challenge that downsizing stadiums. A lot of that also, I
Speaker 1: think comes into the new stadiums now have a lot
Speaker 1: of space allotted for luxury suites and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: That's accounted for some of the downsizing rather than an
Speaker 1: actual strategy. I don't know. I like, I think there's
Speaker 1: nothing even though they went four and twelve last year
Speaker 1: used the rams as an example. I don't think one
Speaker 1: of the coolest things about football is a communal experience
Speaker 1: of having a hundred thousand people watching football game you
Speaker 1: watch college football, uh, and the big houses and ten
Speaker 1: thousand people for a game, Like I think the big
Speaker 1: crowds is part of what makes an NFL game special. Uh.
Speaker 1: I get the novelty of the venue. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've seen eclipse coming well or
Speaker 1: like twenty year us from now. Money there's a lot
Speaker 1: of money, there's money, but let's say twenty years from now,
Speaker 1: like we're just we're just um, you know, salted away
Speaker 1: and like individualized, like liquid pods where it's just being
Speaker 1: beamed into our heads. Like the whole idea that we
Speaker 1: do things with each other. I don't know, but the
Speaker 1: idea that we do things with each other. You go
Speaker 1: to a bar now and like it's you look down
Speaker 1: the bar, it's sixteen people staring at their phone. Things
Speaker 1: are changing. People are not into the community experience and
Speaker 1: getting to know people around them the same way. This
Speaker 1: is this a long tease for your attendance at the
Speaker 1: first Chargers home game? Is that still happening. I don't
Speaker 1: know if anything is happening anymore, but if it's happening,
Speaker 1: I'll be there. Um, all right, I have one I
Speaker 1: was I was knocked out of my first one. Shouldn't
Speaker 1: check the I am client my bad. I thought you
Speaker 1: pitched in well on that one. But uh, I think
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor again his um, his opportunity to become a
Speaker 1: real NFL quarterback is being eclipsed by his organization. I
Speaker 1: this idea, and I know he was terrible yesterday and
Speaker 1: yesterday's game his numbers were outrageously poor. Mark. You wrote
Speaker 1: about it in your What We Learned. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: pull them up right now. On the fly, he was
Speaker 1: about eight for eighteen if I'm not mistaken, through a
Speaker 1: couple of picks one of the three yards per attempt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one was a bad pick, one was a tip ball. Okay,
Speaker 1: so no protection he was getting here, and it's like
Speaker 1: we went through this rigormarole for like three years. Now
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor in the Bills, do they believe and them
Speaker 1: do they not? Doug Welly has it out for him. Well,
Speaker 1: now Doug Welly's gone. But now here we are, like
Speaker 1: three weeks from the start of the season and the
Speaker 1: head coach is answering, like, is Tyrod Taylor gonna get bench?
Speaker 1: First of all, who's going to be the quarterback? Well
Speaker 1: Navy Peterman? Nathan Peterman. Actually, I thought he did not
Speaker 1: look terrible latinated. He made it. He want one or
Speaker 1: two money throws, and now they're talking about it maybe
Speaker 1: taking some first team reps. It's like, calm down. You
Speaker 1: just took away the guy's number one receiver and you
Speaker 1: got a really mediocre, a bad team around him, and
Speaker 1: now you're gonna make him the scapegoat when the team
Speaker 1: looks bad in the preseason game when he doesn't have
Speaker 1: any protection his number one receiver that you traded for
Speaker 1: as a fractured chest bone or something like, leave Tyrod
Speaker 1: Taylor alone. He's being eclipsed by the Bills and this
Speaker 1: eighteen year playoff drought. I would love Tyrod Taylor. I
Speaker 1: know the sun doesn't move, we will evolve around the sun,
Speaker 1: but how about Tyrod Taylor in this role as the
Speaker 1: sun move somewhere else and it's not Western New York,
Speaker 1: and give this kid a real shot in the National
Speaker 1: Football League eclipse the Bills. How about that? I don't
Speaker 1: know what I got away from me a little what
Speaker 1: that meant, but it's wonder if he is on this
Speaker 1: team next year. Yeah, I absolutely agree Peterman. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. You know, he's a mid to late round pick.
Speaker 1: I get excited about Nathan p If you go to
Speaker 1: NFL dot com right now are YouTube, you can find
Speaker 1: a three minute contage of Peterman's best plays against the Eagles.
Speaker 1: He did have some nice throws, had some had some
Speaker 1: poor throws too. Was kind of up and down. But
Speaker 1: he showed a little bit of Crawley, the Bills fan
Speaker 1: who runs the programming downstairs. And I love Patrick. He's
Speaker 1: a Bills fan, so he probably was responsible for He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's let's make that Peterman video about as long as
Speaker 1: his long completion as a Jones just over and over
Speaker 1: and over and over. It is let's ride Peterman on
Speaker 1: the homepage. Uh uh for for the weekend. Just let
Speaker 1: it ride, baby. I don't know. It's like everybody calmed
Speaker 1: down with Tyrod Taylor hate. I thought we were getting
Speaker 1: past this. The Doug Walley, he had no pretend we
Speaker 1: are again. It was hard to find a quarterback that
Speaker 1: has been more spottily supported by his organization. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you should have support from your own organization. That's the
Speaker 1: way I believe, well thanks should operate in general. Greg
Speaker 1: finally closed out and under the radar eclipse. Everyone was
Speaker 1: all excited when they were talking about the bucks. They're
Speaker 1: loading up on all these weapons around ound. Jamis Winston,
Speaker 1: you know O J. Howard's gonna come in. Oh wait
Speaker 1: a second, what about the old tight end that was
Speaker 1: there before that this podcast used to love Cameron Brad.
Speaker 1: I'm watching these preseason games and I'm reading the training
Speaker 1: camp reports. Out of practice. Cameron Brad is the tight
Speaker 1: end making plays down the field, being the guy that's
Speaker 1: gonna kind of split the field while you got Jackson
Speaker 1: and Evans on the outside. O J. Howard I think
Speaker 1: will be a factor eventually, but it's a tough position
Speaker 1: to break into, and he's less of a pass catcher
Speaker 1: maybe than Brighton. Bright to me, looks like he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a big type. He's that clips in the first
Speaker 1: round pick. I like it. I love it. Who knows
Speaker 1: if it plays out. But one of those training camp reports,
Speaker 1: I'll just let you know one of them. Braid's great.
Speaker 1: Oh I like that. Yeah, that's a lot of buzz
Speaker 1: about that gigantic font type. Yeah. Well, I mean also
Speaker 1: that you believe that he could end up having a
Speaker 1: bigger season than Howard I expect. Yeah, he's a veteran.
Speaker 1: He Winston really likes him. He's been there, and he's
Speaker 1: just a natural. He's a good he's a good pass
Speaker 1: catcher that position to specifically, Like we we used to
Speaker 1: do the studies of like what second year tight ends?
Speaker 1: What will they do when they're always you look at
Speaker 1: even Gronkowski and all these guys their first year in
Speaker 1: the league that the adjustment in terms production at tight
Speaker 1: end is tougher than a lot of other positions. Then
Speaker 1: they start to bloom in year two and three. Break's
Speaker 1: a perfect fit for Winston. Right now you're dooming, uh,
Speaker 1: Mr Howard to and Eric Ebron uh type career ARTCA.
Speaker 1: Isn't that what you're doing right now? A slow a
Speaker 1: slow build. It gets like thirty catches break at sixty five?
Speaker 1: How about that? Wow, that's a lot. Meanwhile, Gary Barnage, still,
Speaker 1: what's going on with that? I don't know? Collecting the
Speaker 1: unemployment check still? I think you're right. Well, it's because
Speaker 1: don't British different. I'm not on different, but I've always
Speaker 1: been quistioned for America's form of foota and what you do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a megalomaniac approach by American management to keep him
Speaker 1: out of the league. This is I'm telling you. It's
Speaker 1: why Henry is never going to be a commissioner. It's
Speaker 1: the same reason Henry Handsome Hank is fully capable of
Speaker 1: being the man that succeeds Roger Goodell one day. We
Speaker 1: really expect that to happen. When Gary Barnage, like a
Speaker 1: year and a half removed from you know, a hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty catches and twenty touchdowns whatever he did with
Speaker 1: the Browns can't even get a job. I mean, well,
Speaker 1: that'll be fifteen years now when Henry does not have
Speaker 1: salt and pepper hairy even he has just like a glowing,
Speaker 1: perfect head of white, shining white hair, and and British
Speaker 1: nobility is seen differently in our country at that point,
Speaker 1: and he's just eased right into that commissioner role. He's
Speaker 1: saying British nobility generally that the viewpoint of Americans will shift. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's for British nobility. I'm just saying, you never know,
Speaker 1: fifteen years now, Henry might be the perfect candidate at
Speaker 1: the right time to take over an American sport news
Speaker 1: or barnage jokes, It'll be like fifty Henry's like, listen,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm going to incorporate these twenty thousand
Speaker 1: seeds stadiums. You know, everything's gonna come together. That was
Speaker 1: the definitely the weirdest one we talked about. Well, I
Speaker 1: was stretching. Uh any final thoughts, guy, I got some
Speaker 1: preseason games to talk about. We do. We're gonna next
Speaker 1: time you hear from us will be Monday, and we'll
Speaker 1: go through all the games. Um. In fact, I should
Speaker 1: let you know just so you're aware that the Jaguars
Speaker 1: scored the final eight points a furious rate. Are we
Speaker 1: going through Are we going through these games? Friday games?
Speaker 1: Do you want to go through the games that we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about them a little? Am I crazy? Are
Speaker 1: you crazy? All? Right? Takeaways? Takeaways? Well, and people need
Speaker 1: to know that the scores and certainly and find out
Speaker 1: who on these important games. I have a takeaway for you.
Speaker 1: How about this? So the Bucks all excited about themselves,
Speaker 1: they get to squeeze in the Roberto Aguayo release just
Speaker 1: in time for Hard Knocks Week two. Bang, here comes
Speaker 1: the next preseason game and what happens. Nick Falk clankson
Speaker 1: extra point and then misses a field goal later, and
Speaker 1: the look on on on Dirk Cotter's face is one
Speaker 1: of This feels like one of the most hext positional
Speaker 1: battles in NFL history. It's it does not matter who
Speaker 1: they put out there, they cannot make, you know, fundamentally
Speaker 1: basic point. After he did yeah, he after the missed
Speaker 1: field goal, which ironically I think was from the same
Speaker 1: distance as the kick that ultimately got Roto Oguyo cut
Speaker 1: forty seven yards, he did like a Liz Lemon eye roll.
Speaker 1: His eyes rolled out the back of his head on
Speaker 1: the sideline. It's a major issue, But at the same time,
Speaker 1: everybody count that Nick kick. He'll be fine. I know
Speaker 1: that's that he can also miss kicks, but so can
Speaker 1: everybody else. I think I don't think he's going to
Speaker 1: become a basket case. I don't think they have any
Speaker 1: big problems. Greg, do you have a takeaway from that game?
Speaker 1: How about let's go to the Dolphins but not Bucks Jacks. Nothing,
Speaker 1: We'll move on. Yeah, well we talked about that thing. Well,
Speaker 1: obviously one quick thing Winston. Winston did some some good
Speaker 1: things in that game that the box score looks awesome.
Speaker 1: He had some very concerning decisions. He he does the
Speaker 1: Brett you know, he had the one he had to
Speaker 1: throw at the end of the first half that was
Speaker 1: like more Brett fire than any Brett five throw never happened,
Speaker 1: Like falling to the literally, like being acrobatic and keeping
Speaker 1: himself off the ground and then just throwing the ball up.
Speaker 1: We'll see that on hard knocks. Carter is going to
Speaker 1: go after although he got hit in the head in
Speaker 1: that play, which the announcer has never really talked about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it should have been penalty anyway. Mark has Williams caught
Speaker 1: a four yard pass from Brandon Allen uh Jason Meyers
Speaker 1: more Pad problems, missed the extra kick. There was then
Speaker 1: a safety by Brian Anger to cut it to twelve eight.
Speaker 1: Not enough, But it wasn't enough because the Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: Buccaneers improved to one and one got that first big
Speaker 1: w with a twelve to eight win UH in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: So when in when into Jacksonville, that's making a statement
Speaker 1: inside your own state. You don't see too many twelve
Speaker 1: eight finals, not often, not often. Let's look, let's talk
Speaker 1: about that Miami Dolphins game against the Baltimore Rames. J
Speaker 1: Cutler's debut three of six twenty four yards, had another
Speaker 1: completion that was wiped out by penalty. Your takeaway from
Speaker 1: the UH Dolphins and Ravens Gregg was more of the
Speaker 1: same from Ryan Mallett that that's all that what he's making.
Speaker 1: It really hard on the Ravens decision makers because they're
Speaker 1: trying to give him as much rope as possible and
Speaker 1: he's just he's just not accurate, he's not ready, like
Speaker 1: he doesn't seem like he knows the offense. And they
Speaker 1: announced that Flacco is unlikely to practice next week. Once again,
Speaker 1: Our Guy rap sheet had this story a dent right
Speaker 1: that Flacco was gonna miss a lot of time. And
Speaker 1: I still don't think it's too late. It's not too late.
Speaker 1: I still think that Kaepernick thing could happen there because
Speaker 1: Ryan Mallett was once traded on August thirty one to Houston.
Speaker 1: You know, Sam Bradford was traded what was that That
Speaker 1: might have been September last year. I believe that Brat,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not too late. You can make a
Speaker 1: move that. That was it from this game. Not much else,
Speaker 1: uh you? And else? Not much else from the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins offense because after they went up seven nothing, they
Speaker 1: gave up thirty one straight points never scored again. The
Speaker 1: Ravens make a eight men with seven win in Miami
Speaker 1: Road Dogs. Ravens now undefeated. So Ravens us halfway home
Speaker 1: to the preseason. They have in their stadium for banners
Speaker 1: something to think of. Someone pointed out all of the
Speaker 1: Ravens injuries, the nine players after June one that have
Speaker 1: gone to i R or been suspended or retired. It
Speaker 1: was exactly. It was right around the time we started
Speaker 1: going into the Ravens nest. Very interesting, very and they
Speaker 1: asked for it. We started going into the nest because
Speaker 1: the fans. Let's let's call it what it is. Complain
Speaker 1: to us that we weren't giving the Ravens enough coverage.
Speaker 1: Do you still want to get they got a little greedy?
Speaker 1: Think about it. Do you want the Ravens nest to continue?
Speaker 1: And actually, don't tweet at this continue the Ravens Nest? No,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to hear that. Just understand what
Speaker 1: happened here. Finally, the Bills UH went to Philadelphia to
Speaker 1: play the Eagles, and UH mark your takeaways from this affair.
Speaker 1: We talked about Tyrod Taylor. I am concerned about one
Speaker 1: thing with the Eagles and in praise of another, very
Speaker 1: concerned about the running game based off what we've seen
Speaker 1: over two weeks. La Garrett Blunt, I have a feeling
Speaker 1: we'll be back with the Patriots by Halloween. I am not.
Speaker 1: I am convinced to this. He is not fitting out,
Speaker 1: he's not fitting well. It's not his fault though. They
Speaker 1: are not blocking well. But on the other side of
Speaker 1: the ball, two straight great games by Brandon Graham and
Speaker 1: that Jim Schwartz front seven looks nasty. Yeah, it looks
Speaker 1: like they hit on their first round pick with looks great. Barnett,
Speaker 1: and that would really turn a really good line into
Speaker 1: you know, one of the better lines in the league
Speaker 1: the Bills. And you mentioned Tyrode not getting support, he
Speaker 1: had no protection. Yeah, they were missing a couple of starters.
Speaker 1: That's why it's hard to evaluate these games. But you know,
Speaker 1: if Corty Glenn gets back out there, maybe they'll be fine.
Speaker 1: Maybe when they get healthier at receiver, you don't have
Speaker 1: an Kan bold And starting on the outside and trying
Speaker 1: to win one on one routes against Ronald Darby. Ronald
Speaker 1: Darby had like a great revenge game right off the
Speaker 1: bat with an intercept. He could have had a couple
Speaker 1: of interceptions. You know, most would not be playing outside.
Speaker 1: You know, at this stage in his career. If you
Speaker 1: got Bolden on one side, you got a rookies a
Speaker 1: Johnes who had a nice game on the other side.
Speaker 1: That's that's tough. What happens when Ronald Darby, the guy
Speaker 1: who's you know, mostly forgotten in this Sammy Watkins Matthews
Speaker 1: Derby trade scenario opening winds up being the best of
Speaker 1: the group for the team he landed with. Wouldn't surprise
Speaker 1: me at all. Makes sense Byron Marshall at a one
Speaker 1: yard run with three minutes to play. That was the
Speaker 1: decisive score for the Eagles in Philly. We must protect
Speaker 1: this house, indeed, and that's what they did to improve
Speaker 1: to one and one. The Bills fall to oh and two,
Speaker 1: which all uh all but takes them out of the
Speaker 1: running for the preseason championship this year. I don't know
Speaker 1: how you dig out of that to then go confront
Speaker 1: September and what's after that. You don't come out of
Speaker 1: it after the preseason personally, nor should you. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is really when you know when champions are are
Speaker 1: etched forged. To me, they should be crowned as well.
Speaker 1: You don't know what the league's doing. My favorite tweet
Speaker 1: of last night, this is totally random, was a comment
Speaker 1: that Sean McDermott um looks like a coach on Madden
Speaker 1: with the default settings on. Do you just put like
Speaker 1: that's pretty good? That's really good? Actually, because that is
Speaker 1: an exact Do we want to credit wherever that one
Speaker 1: come from? West? This was Sean Sean s s Local
Speaker 1: made two. Hey, shout out to Shawn with a great tweet. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll be back Monday. We'll go over the rest of
Speaker 1: the preseason games UM thirteen at all, including one tonight
Speaker 1: Minnesota at Seattle so UM battle bund a few teams
Speaker 1: there at the clink. Uh so, make sure you come
Speaker 1: back on Monday and we'll we'll keep you, um, we'll
Speaker 1: keep you up to date on all the goings on
Speaker 1: in the NFL. All right, let's go see this. This
Speaker 1: is Dan hands Is signing off four Quiet Storm, the
Speaker 1: Boss and Tampose making a statement behind the glass digging graves.
Speaker 1: Come my day. M