Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast doesn't have a Game of
Speaker 1: Thrones fantasy t Welcome back to another edition of the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name's Greg Rosenthal, and I'm
Speaker 1: joined by a room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler
Speaker 1: and the Man with all the Muscles Nick Show. Hey, Greg, alright,
Speaker 1: a little little weird show muscles, A little weird show here.
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think i've he has large muscles, Greg,
Speaker 1: but every human being has muscles inside the body. You
Speaker 1: you even have muscles. I don't have muscles. And for
Speaker 1: all the listeners who are covering their ears hearing my
Speaker 1: nasally voice to start the show where without Dan Hansas,
Speaker 1: he's off visiting his in laws in Texas. And it's
Speaker 1: been a long time since I've had to host. I
Speaker 1: went through a laundry list of people to see if
Speaker 1: we get them in here. Matt Money Smith, you'd be
Speaker 1: a great host. No, damnack uh not available today. Colleen
Speaker 1: Wolf is off on one of her new television programs
Speaker 1: preparing for that. So so this is it. People are
Speaker 1: enjoying their Fridays. What a novel idea. We're gonna enjoy
Speaker 1: it too, because this isn't just any show you're here for,
Speaker 1: Nick Schuck, did you know that we've got other people
Speaker 1: joining us? And that's because it's the fifth annual I
Speaker 1: believe Fantasy Extravaganza. Every time I hear that, I feel
Speaker 1: like I should be in a town square and someone's
Speaker 1: coming out with a big scroll to read a message
Speaker 1: from the king. Well that that's appropriate, because we've got
Speaker 1: the King of NFL Fantasy in the podcast studio, maybe
Speaker 1: for the first time. Maybe I think Michael Fabriano has
Speaker 1: been here before, but maybe just once and it was
Speaker 1: years ago, and he's coming back. We're also gonna have
Speaker 1: Alex Gelhar from our Fantasy Live show, and uh, most importantly,
Speaker 1: we have you, Mark Ceslo. You were just giddy with
Speaker 1: anticipation coming into this program. Him. Well, it's great to
Speaker 1: have the Fantasy guests on. I don't remember Fabiana being
Speaker 1: on the show, but I think it was like a
Speaker 1: long time ago. I could be wrong. I guess that occurred.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's you know, he's he'll be on today
Speaker 1: and he is the unquestioned king of the Fantasy realm
Speaker 1: inside our building. We also are gonna we're gonna play
Speaker 1: a fun game with them that we haven't played in
Speaker 1: a little bit of time, and it was inspired by
Speaker 1: our friend Chris Westling, who who I was visiting with
Speaker 1: earlier this week, and he's on the road to recovery.
Speaker 1: His voices is a little shot. So although he is
Speaker 1: feeling better and he's he's starting to look forward to
Speaker 1: coming back to work even more, he's been watching the
Speaker 1: preseason now and taking notes, his voices is pretty shot
Speaker 1: right now. That's still recovering, so he can't really join
Speaker 1: us even to say hello on the phone. But he
Speaker 1: did want to, you know, tell all the listeners that
Speaker 1: he appreciates all the love. He's here in spirit. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we'll have him back at some
Speaker 1: point this season. Absolutely. Well, so we we have a
Speaker 1: lot to get to. We're gonna do fantasy. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do a little bit of news with the season having
Speaker 1: finally ended Thursday night, and uh, since I have nothing
Speaker 1: else to really talk about, why don't we uh get
Speaker 1: it going? What's going on? Erica behind the glass? How's
Speaker 1: it going, guys, Let's do a little a little bit
Speaker 1: of news. A B yeah, I see all comes big dog,
Speaker 1: I got bigger than air. But are you aware of
Speaker 1: But why I'm not at practice. I'm gonna need seventeen
Speaker 1: because twenty seven. So that was Levan Bell. What what
Speaker 1: do you think you compared him to another famous rapper
Speaker 1: before the show, Mark says, well, not in this actual
Speaker 1: offering he had, which was really just more spoken word,
Speaker 1: but in a previous one that he had pinned on
Speaker 1: his on his feed. It was lyrical and it had music,
Speaker 1: and it had I thought it had echoes of Little Debbie.
Speaker 1: It really did the way that sometime she gets on
Speaker 1: a little ref little reff of hers little with the
Speaker 1: way she references people. I heard a little bit of
Speaker 1: that in in Love Bell's previous one, not this one.
Speaker 1: I think there's there's too much emphasis placed on the freestyle.
Speaker 1: Was it a freestyle? Was it No, it's definitely not
Speaker 1: a freestyle. Did he sit down and write it out
Speaker 1: cos it was so canned? He even has in a
Speaker 1: part we didn't listen to, kind of a friend come
Speaker 1: in at the end, and that was clearly staged. It
Speaker 1: was all very staged. I think having a hype man
Speaker 1: in your own video what appears to be your home
Speaker 1: when you're not at practice weeks before the regular season starts.
Speaker 1: Uh not exactly the best look. But well, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys know this, but I do. I
Speaker 1: enjoy hip hop. Sometimes you guys come to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've made that clear. So I wanted to translate part
Speaker 1: of that if you didn't totally get what he was saying. Um,
Speaker 1: he says he's got pups bigger than air Bud. I'm
Speaker 1: not really sure what that means. Airbud one of the
Speaker 1: greatest translation off to a very seldid start. He said,
Speaker 1: you're the big dog, bigger than Airbud. One of the
Speaker 1: great American cinematic achievements, I would say of the twenty
Speaker 1: one century, which sport Airbud? Exceld In? Did you like
Speaker 1: the most? Uh? Well, we talked to on my on
Speaker 1: another podcast I used to do called the Rosenthal and
Speaker 1: Justin like Vanity Project r g VP. Uh. We we
Speaker 1: talked about the football one was really great because every
Speaker 1: time basically he uh you know, was on the field,
Speaker 1: it would seem like he would suffer a catastrophic injury,
Speaker 1: like if he was on a special team's play. So
Speaker 1: that that always piqued my interest. But the classic basketball
Speaker 1: like in the yogurt like to come out of the
Speaker 1: or the pudding whatever it was like, that was so great.
Speaker 1: The basketball though, wouldn't he suffer a concussion almost every
Speaker 1: time he tried to shoot? Now he opens it was
Speaker 1: his nose. Seemed very day dog concussions underrated, right, So
Speaker 1: the translation not going well. He says I'm gonna need
Speaker 1: seventeen because twenty six is savage. He wants seventeen million
Speaker 1: a year. He's uh, he's number twenty six. How about that?
Speaker 1: I mean, well, that was that was very solid translation.
Speaker 1: It's it rings to me a tad tone deaf for
Speaker 1: athletes to be rapping about needing seventeen million dollars when
Speaker 1: like half our countries and like utter turmoial. But you know, whatever,
Speaker 1: whatever floats his little boat he needs well. Sylavyan bellots
Speaker 1: September one, as we tape this, he returned to the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers as expected on Friday, getting ready for Week one.
Speaker 1: But we will start our news with another a f
Speaker 1: C team, the Houston Texans, who are back in Houston. Uh.
Speaker 1: They met with some hurricane survivors that are staying at
Speaker 1: Energy Stadium. A lot of good stories coming out of that,
Speaker 1: but they also did a lot of business this week
Speaker 1: on Thursday, signing DeAndre Hopkins and tight end c J.
Speaker 1: Fedorowitz too big contract extensions, including a monster deal for
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, Nick shook. Is he worth it? Would you
Speaker 1: pay a receiver five years eighty one million? What's what's
Speaker 1: the math on that? If? What was it? Uh? I
Speaker 1: think seventeen or something like that A year? Uh? It is, yeah, really,
Speaker 1: especially for a guy who has been a little up
Speaker 1: and down in his career. OBVIOU see the quarterbacks he's
Speaker 1: played with hasn't helped. Well. I think that's that's the
Speaker 1: thing that we kind of lose with him. I Mean,
Speaker 1: we know how good of a receiver he is, but
Speaker 1: because of the people who have been throwing to him,
Speaker 1: I feel like he's gotten kind of lost in the
Speaker 1: wash a little bit. So maybe this contract would be
Speaker 1: surprising to some folks, But if you isolate who he
Speaker 1: is on the field and what he can do for
Speaker 1: your football team, if you have a competent quarterback throwing
Speaker 1: to him. We don't know if that'll be Tom Savage
Speaker 1: or if he'll be competent or not this year, then
Speaker 1: it's totally worth it. What you're seeing is a move
Speaker 1: that says we are aligning our number one weapon with
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's contract that we we were gonna get o
Speaker 1: our people in place. And yes it's Tom Savage's team
Speaker 1: right now, but that's obviously not the long term plan.
Speaker 1: And when they find a running back of worth, they'll
Speaker 1: do the same thing. And you want to keep you
Speaker 1: want to the good teams want to keep their core together.
Speaker 1: The Texans don't really have a core on offense at
Speaker 1: this point. This is the beginning of that. There are
Speaker 1: some folks who who thought hopkins Is struggles last year
Speaker 1: were a lot on Hopkins. The guys who really break
Speaker 1: down the film that he's not a guy who gets
Speaker 1: a lot of separation. So he's gonna rely on his
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to kind of throw it up for him, and
Speaker 1: he's gonna make that catch even though he doesn't create
Speaker 1: a lot of separation. He's getting forty nine million guaranteed.
Speaker 1: If that is all real deal guaranteed, that is way
Speaker 1: more than any receiver has ever gotten guaranteed. I want
Speaker 1: to see all the details. We say this every time
Speaker 1: I suspect in this deal. It's kind of a three
Speaker 1: year deal, maybe three years, fifty million, which is still
Speaker 1: a ton of money, maybe a little less than that,
Speaker 1: and and after that we'll see if he's still at
Speaker 1: the top of his game. But that is that is
Speaker 1: major deal, and I think it's one thing I thought
Speaker 1: what was smart that I saw about this. ESPNS Bill
Speaker 1: Barnwell pointed out the way to get the most amount
Speaker 1: of money is wait until you get into that contract here.
Speaker 1: So even though it's a little riskier, the fact that
Speaker 1: he was so close to free agency, he got paid
Speaker 1: top dollar. Don't we think also that this deal won't
Speaker 1: seem as titanic two years from now, right. I mean,
Speaker 1: all this thing, it's just the cap continues to grow.
Speaker 1: I I don't see this a prohibitive deal, and I
Speaker 1: think that knock on him if he finds a quarterback
Speaker 1: to establishes he establishes a report with like a Watson
Speaker 1: or something I think of, Actually that concern goes away
Speaker 1: because at one point that quarterback then trust that receiver. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, he might not be open, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna throw it up and expect him to get the ball.
Speaker 1: The one criticism criticism of Watson coming out, and I
Speaker 1: would say it's played out in the preseason so far,
Speaker 1: is not not that accurate deep down the field, so
Speaker 1: we'll see if that all works out. But they signed Hopkins,
Speaker 1: they signed Fedorowitz to a deal that was more surprising
Speaker 1: to me because he really hasn't taken a big leap
Speaker 1: as a tight end. And they made some other contracts.
Speaker 1: But let's move on to their division rival in Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: where Jim Urcy keeps talking about Andrew Luck, and every
Speaker 1: time he opens his mouth, it sounds less likely that
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is going to play Week one. He he
Speaker 1: put major doubt on that. We know that it's unlikely
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck could play we going because he hasn't practiced.
Speaker 1: But he also made some comments that were that were
Speaker 1: curious to me. And I'm gonna read a quote from
Speaker 1: Jim Rcy when asked about Andrew Luck. He said, it's
Speaker 1: been said before by one of the greatest athletes and
Speaker 1: competitors who have played this, played any sport, and the
Speaker 1: quote was this, these games, all games are played on
Speaker 1: a four inch field between your ears. That's where it's at.
Speaker 1: Referring to Luck's injury. You have to be able to
Speaker 1: deal with this, not only physically but mentally. I have
Speaker 1: no idea, no doubt that Andrew Luck, the person that is,
Speaker 1: he's going to come out of this thing not just
Speaker 1: how he was, but a better QB. When is the
Speaker 1: question that timetable is more on the football gods, and
Speaker 1: Andrew's gut feeling, on how he's feeling? What? What? How?
Speaker 1: How did you interpret that? That's a very strange statement.
Speaker 1: Right a week ago, someone talked about the six inches
Speaker 1: between the ears that was the size of the human
Speaker 1: brain for an NFL player at that point. Now it's
Speaker 1: been reduced to four inches between someone's ears. But that
Speaker 1: that's concerning I would say, it's just that you're saying
Speaker 1: Luck might have two less inches than most. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that the owner who employs him is saying that.
Speaker 1: That's where I my concern comes from. It's it seems
Speaker 1: to me like or say obviously knows the full breadth
Speaker 1: of what information is out there about Luck. None of
Speaker 1: us do. And these are not decisive comments, they're very murky,
Speaker 1: and so there's no clear timetable attached to what he
Speaker 1: said at all. And I think you have to almost
Speaker 1: wonder at this point, at what point if we don't
Speaker 1: have Andrew Luck week one, and it goes on and
Speaker 1: on is this just an absolute lost season for the Cults. Uh? Yes,
Speaker 1: and also because without them, without him, they they do
Speaker 1: not look good. And I know it's the preseason, but still, uh,
Speaker 1: I think it's a veiled shot at Andrew Luck's mental
Speaker 1: toughness or maybe that he can't get over, you know,
Speaker 1: getting past that. And and you and I kind of
Speaker 1: discussed this before. Greg. When it comes to maybe a
Speaker 1: lower body injury, that's more understandable because you have to run,
Speaker 1: you have to trust your legs, whereas it with a shoulder.
Speaker 1: I know, he's a quarterback and everything, it's kind of
Speaker 1: a different I want to I thought people might see
Speaker 1: it that way. I'm gonna be more generous to er
Speaker 1: say and just see it as like maybe Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: is not ready to really let his shoulder rip. He
Speaker 1: is not. I'm just guessing because ursays talking and he's
Speaker 1: making us guests with these vague comments that they believe
Speaker 1: maybe he can return to practice or there is some
Speaker 1: sort of medical clearance, but he's not feeling comfortable. And
Speaker 1: that's pretty that's pretty typical and injury recoveries that guys. Okay,
Speaker 1: they're saying he's cleared, but when he's throwing it. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's not feeling like he's really ready to go out
Speaker 1: there and start playing it. I think also when you
Speaker 1: are in you know, it's May, it's early June, and
Speaker 1: week one is the timetable, and we're you know, we're
Speaker 1: saying we but we have confidence he can come back
Speaker 1: by then well, there's literally no way to know. And
Speaker 1: you get closer and closer and week one and it's
Speaker 1: an injury with a lot of variables attached. Week one
Speaker 1: becomes completely unrealistic as you get into early August and
Speaker 1: closing in on September. Shoulder injuries are also kind of
Speaker 1: a fickle thing because one, I mean, it's based on
Speaker 1: how the joint is. It's a rotational thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm no, look at this just because you have a
Speaker 1: great body, you know, I'm telling us how the human
Speaker 1: body operates. Oh god, that's the thing now. Uh No,
Speaker 1: it's I mean, I've dealt with shoulder issues before. You
Speaker 1: don't know from day to day, and it's a different
Speaker 1: type of injury. His is. But that's a million dollar arm.
Speaker 1: He's been hundred million dollars. He's been recovering since January.
Speaker 1: That's a long you've got that's a long recovery. And
Speaker 1: it's a reminder there are a lot of people here
Speaker 1: on different timelines. So Chuck Bogano needs to save his job.
Speaker 1: He's on one timeline. Andrew Luck is wanting to be
Speaker 1: careful with that shoulder of course long term, so he's
Speaker 1: on one timeline. And then Chris Ballard, their general manager.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite type of frog? Who you know? Sometimes
Speaker 1: he's off the wall, sometimes he's thinking long term. He's
Speaker 1: got a really strange team. There's no Vante Davis early
Speaker 1: in the season. There's seven or eight or nine new
Speaker 1: defensive starters. This is a team planning for the future.
Speaker 1: So he's on a different timeline and it all spells trouble. Well,
Speaker 1: no one should be rushing him back. That's a terrible idea,
Speaker 1: whether you're Pagana or anyone another quarterback not rushing back
Speaker 1: is Teddy Bridgewater Just quickly, Mark, you wrote the story.
Speaker 1: He is going to the deserve pu P list for clarity,
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, as we tape this as a candidate for
Speaker 1: that list, he is fully expected to come off the
Speaker 1: reserve pup list by the time this weekend is up.
Speaker 1: I think Saturday is the deadline, So even if he's
Speaker 1: not practicing, he's likely to be active so that he's
Speaker 1: eligible to play in practice. At some point in the
Speaker 1: first six weeks, Teddy Bridgewater will not be eligible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's not surprising that the way to shift
Speaker 1: him on it that it's certainly it would be shocking
Speaker 1: if suddenly he were active on this on the roster now.
Speaker 1: But then they've got, you know, at that point, they've
Speaker 1: got a period of i think five weeks to get
Speaker 1: him to practice after he comes off the pup, and
Speaker 1: then from there three weeks to activate him. And if
Speaker 1: he becomes active, that's essentially sounds like would be as
Speaker 1: contractually his last year in Minnesota, making things kind of
Speaker 1: tricky down the road. But in general, I think that
Speaker 1: the overall story is incredibly positive because I think people
Speaker 1: would have questioned whether Bridgewater would ever throw a pass again.
Speaker 1: So whether that happens in Minnesota or somewhere else, he
Speaker 1: is obviously because a few times he's met with the
Speaker 1: with with report has worked so tires lee behind the
Speaker 1: scenes to get back to where he is. That that's
Speaker 1: the kind of thing we never see from athletes in general.
Speaker 1: So Teddy Bridgewater counted out by many could play this season,
Speaker 1: that would be quite a story. I think he would
Speaker 1: just be commended for ever really taking the field in
Speaker 1: a competitive NFL game again. I mean, that sounds like
Speaker 1: he's making real progress. And when he does that, that
Speaker 1: in itself is enough for me. And there's contract questions
Speaker 1: with him that if he didn't practice at all this season,
Speaker 1: could his contract toll and then he's still a member
Speaker 1: of the Vikings on the same contract into next year.
Speaker 1: That's it. We're getting ahead of ourselves a little bit
Speaker 1: that because if he is able to play this year,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna let him practice. They're gonna want
Speaker 1: to see him out there and see see what he
Speaker 1: looks like. But it is a it's a strange situation
Speaker 1: from Minnesota because you have this guy Bridgewater who was
Speaker 1: supposed to be the quarterback of the future, and you
Speaker 1: have seeing Bradford. Both of their contracts are up after
Speaker 1: this season, so how Bradford plays could wind up really
Speaker 1: impacting Bridgewater's future. We learned a little bit more about
Speaker 1: vantes perfect future this week. This happened after our last podcast,
Speaker 1: feels like a while ago. Already, his suspension was reduced
Speaker 1: from five games to three games. Mark your thoughts, well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's I'm confused on some level
Speaker 1: because it seems like the league, in in exacting this
Speaker 1: initial punishment, must have said, we're absolutely certain about our
Speaker 1: take on this, and we wouldn't have done this without
Speaker 1: feeling sure about that. A five week suspension is the
Speaker 1: correct answer here, and then in an appeal it's it's
Speaker 1: removed down to three. I explained to me why there
Speaker 1: would be any variable here. I think he got punished
Speaker 1: for his reputation personally. Um so is the league acknowledging
Speaker 1: that though it's strange, well, he got punished because he's
Speaker 1: been punished for these hits before. They're saying that if
Speaker 1: anyone made this hit, they would have gotten a fine.
Speaker 1: But since it's Vantes perfect and he's been punished seven times,
Speaker 1: because that's the rules, that it's successively bigger punishment. Obviously,
Speaker 1: hitting your wallet so many times is not teaching you
Speaker 1: to adjust way You've been suspended twice for dirty hits.
Speaker 1: It's strange, and it's an opportunity to mention here Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott's looming suspension, But I was really hesitant to talk
Speaker 1: about it. On this show, because we're taping it Friday
Speaker 1: afternoon and it's gonna be stale. I think by the
Speaker 1: time we're back in this studio, if not by the
Speaker 1: time people listen to it, I expect we'll get a
Speaker 1: final word on his suspension. If not Friday as we
Speaker 1: tape this, which is very possible, then Tuesday, I think
Speaker 1: when everyone is is back at work in the NFL
Speaker 1: league office, because it's right now it's hanging over the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and in theory, if there's no answer, he's playing Week one,
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football, number one show of the week. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's an uncomfortable and unwanted thing for the
Speaker 1: NFL to be going through. It is, and if that
Speaker 1: suspension were reduced, I mean the messages to players the
Speaker 1: league can come down with these heavy handed, surety filled,
Speaker 1: you know, punishments, but appeal them immediately because you can
Speaker 1: change their minds. It's almost a given now anytime somebody
Speaker 1: suspended that an automatic appeal. I think Doug Martin was
Speaker 1: the last one who did an automatically yeah. But this
Speaker 1: is a I feel like Zeke is a very It's
Speaker 1: a unique case because it's the domestic violence policy which
Speaker 1: we really haven't seen things getting appealed too much or reduced,
Speaker 1: and we'll see what kind of precedent the NFL wants
Speaker 1: to show there before we you know, depart from the
Speaker 1: preseason forever. And we talked about this every year. August
Speaker 1: is the worst month I think for our jobs. No
Speaker 1: one want, no one wants to cry. Yeah I'm not crying,
Speaker 1: but it's just it's a long month. So it's not
Speaker 1: a bit of a mishmash, and it's it's welcomed. When
Speaker 1: September it's like four or five nights of games, which
Speaker 1: is sneaky. You're busy, we're you know, Nick and I
Speaker 1: were here last night. You've spent more nights than than
Speaker 1: I have. Mark here doing these games. Uh and the first,
Speaker 1: the final preseason night is usually a bit of a stinker.
Speaker 1: Not many players who are gonna be big factors are
Speaker 1: playing in those games. But you know who was playing,
Speaker 1: your boy, Mark Sessler, Patrick Mahomes, and he had uh
Speaker 1: light up the final night of the preseason. For me,
Speaker 1: at least that I at least got to watch something
Speaker 1: some fun football, because he is about as fun as
Speaker 1: it gets. He had three big time throws to DeMarcus Robinson,
Speaker 1: who caught them all for a hundred and twenty nine
Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown, including one where he was throwing
Speaker 1: on the dead run to his right right before he
Speaker 1: got walloped and it the ball traveled fifty yards in
Speaker 1: the air for a forty six yard completion right on
Speaker 1: his fingertips. And we started talking after that, how many
Speaker 1: people in the NFL can make that throw? Two? I
Speaker 1: would say, Aaron Rodgers can make that throw er, maybe
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, but I don't. You don't really see him
Speaker 1: making that throw on the he's got he certainly got
Speaker 1: the arms on crazy right. Michael Vick can make that throw.
Speaker 1: He would be going to his left versus going to
Speaker 1: his right. Mike, it would ruined me a little bit
Speaker 1: of Michael Vick can make that throw, maybe not consistently
Speaker 1: but occasionally. It wouldn't necessarily be entirely accurate, I think
Speaker 1: every time. But red five maybe wouldn't be running as
Speaker 1: facts you think of five, But I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: the kind of performance that had Greg and I bickering
Speaker 1: at each other early morning about who likes Mahomes more
Speaker 1: and who liked him first, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I honestly stick to the thing, and I think Mahomes
Speaker 1: is gonna be a tough person no matter what. In
Speaker 1: terms of the fan base in the stadium of the
Speaker 1: Chiefs are down twenty nothing in one game in Week seven,
Speaker 1: and it's Alex Smith's to do. That's the reason they're down,
Speaker 1: to keep fans satisfied. The Mahomes with this incredible arm
Speaker 1: and an unfinished product. Otherwise is sitting on the bench
Speaker 1: with a helmet off. He's that he's too alluring, and
Speaker 1: I get tape watchers will say it's flintwork, but I mean,
Speaker 1: I get it. He's unfinished. The next throw, after one
Speaker 1: of those long throws, he threw an interception that was overturned.
Speaker 1: The average fan another less about. That's my point is
Speaker 1: not there that they're correct, but the average suede stadium
Speaker 1: could care less. They want to see the backup no
Speaker 1: matter what. Howether it's Brady Quinn or someone else, Mahome
Speaker 1: is gonna be tough to hold down. I'm glad you
Speaker 1: mentioned Brady Queen because that's where it's gonna go with this.
Speaker 1: Take the experience with the Browns and every too many
Speaker 1: Brown quarterback take it out because the Chiefs are in
Speaker 1: the most enviable position when it comes to quarterback, both
Speaker 1: short and long term. I don't see them struggling a
Speaker 1: whole lot to ever call from the homes. You might
Speaker 1: have some of your fans we want to see my homes.
Speaker 1: We want to see the new thing, the new flavor.
Speaker 1: But you know, Alex Smith is gonna be, you know,
Speaker 1: pretty consistent. He's you know what you're gonna get from him,
Speaker 1: and for them, that's probably gonna translate into a competitive
Speaker 1: season again, which wouldn't really result in any calls from
Speaker 1: a homes. I think if it stays on script, you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not that it's logical that my homes
Speaker 1: comes in and plays. But what if they're down twenty
Speaker 1: eight nothing against the Patriots, and then they get out
Speaker 1: of the gate and a rough schedule, they go one
Speaker 1: and two or one in three. I promise you it
Speaker 1: won't take five months for society to turn on Alex Smith.
Speaker 1: You say that, Nick, But they're at Patriots Week one,
Speaker 1: then their home for the Eagles. Let's just say they
Speaker 1: have a bad home opener and lose that Eagles game,
Speaker 1: you know, and then they're owing two. Then we're at Sandy,
Speaker 1: you know you're at Los Angeles the Chargers. It's like
Speaker 1: it doesn't take long at any point. If there are
Speaker 1: two games under five, that's the point it happens. You
Speaker 1: know they're at Houston early in the season. Pittsburgh, you
Speaker 1: never know. And the point is not that we're saying
Speaker 1: Mahomes is ready to start, because he clearly has some
Speaker 1: incredible tools, but he's not in other ways prepared for this.
Speaker 1: But it's just that that is that logic isn't baked
Speaker 1: into people's Reaction's got too many, too much like minded fans.
Speaker 1: Well this room though, we've got two Browns fans thinking
Speaker 1: Brady Quinn. Meanwhile, I'm asking who couldn't make this throw?
Speaker 1: And tam Posey over there text me and all caps,
Speaker 1: what what did you say? Not today? You should say
Speaker 1: he said the goat. He can do a million in
Speaker 1: your actual voice, Tom Tom Brady, Tom Tom Brady can
Speaker 1: make that throw? No, nothing, He could never make that throw.
Speaker 1: That No, that's my point. At no point in his
Speaker 1: career could he ever make that throw. Not many people
Speaker 1: ever could. I thought to illustrate this RelA, she can
Speaker 1: pull the plug on the whole show. So we agree
Speaker 1: with all right, Yeah, I thought the relationship between Smith
Speaker 1: and Mahomes was kind of interesting in what Home said
Speaker 1: last night, saying that Alex is the perfect person for
Speaker 1: me to learn from, and how he was helping him,
Speaker 1: you know, read coverages and working on his footwork and
Speaker 1: everything else. I'm curious to see how if the near
Speaker 1: doomsday scenario that you have set up Mark ends up happening,
Speaker 1: how does that affect that relationship? Does it sour? Does
Speaker 1: Alex cut him off? You know what? Well? I mean,
Speaker 1: Smith has been through this to such an incredible high
Speaker 1: pitched like in another example with Colin, and I don't
Speaker 1: get the sense that that relationship was as close whereas
Speaker 1: this feels more like a mentor, and as long as
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Smith both of the right attitude, which just
Speaker 1: seems like they do, I think, and good quarterback rooms
Speaker 1: are able to kind of isolate from all that because
Speaker 1: it's the this is the dynamic with every backup quarterback
Speaker 1: whenever a starter is struggling, Ones that are less set
Speaker 1: much less sexy on field than this. So I just
Speaker 1: think this could be this is one to watch. We've
Speaker 1: set up for months quickly before we move on one
Speaker 1: other preseason. Final thought I just mentioned Kaepernick was that
Speaker 1: the two teams that showed the most interesting Kaepernick, the
Speaker 1: Seahawks and the Rave they both still have big quarterback needs.
Speaker 1: Travon Boykin has not looked like a backup quarterback. I
Speaker 1: know it's I know they don't they need a starting quarterback,
Speaker 1: but he's throwing four interceptions in the preseason. They need
Speaker 1: a quarterback, and and they they seem open to Kaepernick,
Speaker 1: so I'm not ruling that out. Still, I think people
Speaker 1: have forgotten. And then the Ravens, the ship has probably sailed,
Speaker 1: but it shouldn't have because Ryan Mallett was just awful
Speaker 1: throughout the preseason and Joe Flacco still hasn't. He's still
Speaker 1: not taken off the publics he will be soon and
Speaker 1: I guess he's playing Week one, but Ryan Mallett, to me,
Speaker 1: the fact he was out there for a number of series,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's gonna be on their roster
Speaker 1: week one. That even if Flacco is starting, that maybe
Speaker 1: they cut Ryan Mallett and they pick up someone else's release,
Speaker 1: or they make a low level trade like that. They're
Speaker 1: searching for some way to get better because Mallett just
Speaker 1: was was really poor in the preseason. I thought Seattle
Speaker 1: was the perfect fit for a guy like Kaepernick because
Speaker 1: if you look at Jevon Boykin and comparing to Colin Kaepernick,
Speaker 1: they're really not that far off. And if they wanted
Speaker 1: to see more out of Boykin before making that decision,
Speaker 1: now they have and it wasn't that. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: in that situation, I'm taking Kaepernick, go over him. But
Speaker 1: Mallett getting cut would be insane because then your next
Speaker 1: quarterback is Dad Lewis. Well, they probably just cut that.
Speaker 1: They cut that Lewis. My my thought would be they
Speaker 1: were they would bring in a quarterback either that gets
Speaker 1: released or that we don't see coming, like who knows,
Speaker 1: they bring in Matt Castle from the Titans, you know,
Speaker 1: just something uninspiring, or they bring in Kaepernick because to me,
Speaker 1: malt has shown he's not a good option. Any other
Speaker 1: final preseason thoughts before we move on one. If I
Speaker 1: had to take the over under of eight on games
Speaker 1: that Nathan Peterman will start for the Bills this year,
Speaker 1: I'm taking the over. Okay, I know this is my
Speaker 1: beat this whole like rookies will start, but I don't
Speaker 1: think the Bills a believe in Tyrod Taylor at this point.
Speaker 1: I think he's injury prone and they are. Their GM
Speaker 1: gushed over Peterman yesterday and he's looked the part fifth
Speaker 1: round pick. They did ask McDermott, their coach, about whether
Speaker 1: Peterman fits the offense better, and his answer was, Tyrod
Speaker 1: is our our start. Well that's where that's what you
Speaker 1: have to say as the coach right now, right now.
Speaker 1: I I like Peterman. I wasn't exactly the biggest fan
Speaker 1: of him coming out of pit, even though he was
Speaker 1: good there and he looked really good last night and
Speaker 1: it's week four. But this this offense is it could
Speaker 1: be out of complete records that you have a rookie
Speaker 1: started pressing that Lashawn McCoy to meet stuck on that offense,
Speaker 1: and Tyrod Taylor was a fun player to watch. One
Speaker 1: final thing was that John Brown got injured, uh in
Speaker 1: the Bengals game, barely played in the preseason. He's going
Speaker 1: to be out a couple of weeks. Everyone was really
Speaker 1: excited to see Brown and mixing what they're gonna do
Speaker 1: to this offense. And but this is what often happens
Speaker 1: is oh, wait, like this guy hasn't played at the
Speaker 1: NFL level. He missed a lot of practices before training camp.
Speaker 1: He's been hurt throughout training camp and they'll have mixing,
Speaker 1: but they won't. It really sounds like John Brown is
Speaker 1: not going to be a factor for a while. Finally,
Speaker 1: we've got a little bit of minor breaking news here
Speaker 1: while we were up here, Chris Johnson released by the years.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be a lot of releases coming up. That's
Speaker 1: not a screaming headline. He did not look good in
Speaker 1: the preseason. It's not a surprise, despite the fact that
Speaker 1: arians couldn't be more loyal to certain players that probably
Speaker 1: shouldn't be on the Yeah, I I just wanted to
Speaker 1: give a shout out because that that might be the
Speaker 1: end of the run, uh for Chris Johnson. Certainly peaked
Speaker 1: early in his career and maybe he'll get signed elsewhere. Um.
Speaker 1: But a fun player to watch over the last But
Speaker 1: it's been nine seasons. I believe c J two K.
Speaker 1: I always remember his time at tennis. Returned from a
Speaker 1: gunshot wound. How many can claim that. I mean, he
Speaker 1: his first six years of his career. Looking at it now,
Speaker 1: he went over yards from scrimmage. That's that's pretty good,
Speaker 1: Like that's the start of a Hall of Fame type
Speaker 1: of career. It didn't continue. So he's not going to
Speaker 1: be a guy on Titans teams where they knew it
Speaker 1: was going to him and him alone half the time, right,
Speaker 1: So that's it's he's not going to be a guy
Speaker 1: that's talked up for Can, but he is a guy
Speaker 1: to me that should be talked up as like a
Speaker 1: Titans ring of honor of type of player should throw
Speaker 1: Matt Castle in the ring of Come on, all right,
Speaker 1: I think I think that's all we really need to
Speaker 1: talk about for the preseason for two thousand and seventeen.
Speaker 1: So let's not delay it anymore. Let's uh, let's hear
Speaker 1: those bugles again. It's time for part two of the
Speaker 1: Fantasy Extravaganza. Alright, so is this is this the first
Speaker 1: time in the studio? I believe, uh one of the
Speaker 1: key members of the Fantasy Live podcast and really one
Speaker 1: of the puppet masters pulling, you know, the marionette strings
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. We welcome it's very dark to the studio,
Speaker 1: Alex Galler. I thank you, thank you, it's an honor
Speaker 1: to be here. I did uh come in and pinch
Speaker 1: hit one time last I know, but weren't you were
Speaker 1: on the outside of the last. Now you're getting to promote,
Speaker 1: and usually they the Fantasy Live guys, you know they
Speaker 1: they they show you a little it's a little too respectful.
Speaker 1: They keep you outside of that. It wasn't the desk
Speaker 1: one time. I think somebody was stricken with the dire illness.
Speaker 1: And you have Leibon, Marcus me others compinshook as well.
Speaker 1: I have the memory of a gold the time when
Speaker 1: I was behind the glasses when I came up to
Speaker 1: discuss the shot not heard around the World's at Westlemania's.
Speaker 1: That's what I was, That's what I was thinking. A
Speaker 1: lot of controversies, an infamous corn hole miss decision on
Speaker 1: my poin. Whenever Gallar shows up, controversy sure to follow.
Speaker 1: So he's going to help us with the Fantasy Extravaganza
Speaker 1: and then, wow, we've got a big fish in the
Speaker 1: room right now. I mean the gold jackets, none none other.
Speaker 1: I mean he's the champion, the wrestling fan, the grand
Speaker 1: pupa of the Fantasy coverage here at NFL Network, the
Speaker 1: all dorks around the NFL. I've never been on this show.
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever been with my guest. I
Speaker 1: thought I had never thought you were. I thought you
Speaker 1: were about four years, like a really long time ago.
Speaker 1: Thanks for inviting me, bab Oh you're here, You're here.
Speaker 1: Yeah enough, that's all that. Wow, I didn't know four years. Thanks.
Speaker 1: It's great. Way. If I had any say and how
Speaker 1: the show was organized, you could point the finger at me.
Speaker 1: But I just sit here. I'm wheeled in and I
Speaker 1: make a few comments and I'm wheeled out. Maybe Fabia Fabiano,
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't know that the fact the Fantasy
Speaker 1: Extravaganza is only once a year, and uh as Dan Hansas,
Speaker 1: our humble host, always says, me and Chris Wesley, and
Speaker 1: we helped we helped build Rhodo World brick by brick,
Speaker 1: so we are usually the you know, the fantasy kind
Speaker 1: of talk for these fantasy extravaganzas. And you know Mark's
Speaker 1: also here. Hey listen, I'm having I'm only having fun
Speaker 1: with you guys. It's always a pleasure when you invite
Speaker 1: me once every four years. Uh So, if you our
Speaker 1: regular listener, you'll know that we did a part one
Speaker 1: of the Fantasy Extravaganza last week with some great guests,
Speaker 1: Matt Matt Franchise, Franciscovic I don't know if I say
Speaker 1: that right, and Marcus Grant and so if you're drafting
Speaker 1: though this weekend, this is when I'm drafting. I think
Speaker 1: this is the best weekend to draft, or even only
Speaker 1: weekend to draft. I agree. Or even if you want
Speaker 1: Tuesday or Wednesday next week, you know, get it close.
Speaker 1: If you got the time, why not get all the
Speaker 1: information you can. There's cuts, there's trades. We're talking about it. No,
Speaker 1: as much as you can. I have four in uh
Speaker 1: two days next week. How many leagues are you're or
Speaker 1: corner rules is you never be in more than I
Speaker 1: think it's two or three leagues. I kin do this
Speaker 1: for you know, it's he's doing it for a living.
Speaker 1: How many good heavens? I have friends who worked for
Speaker 1: Sirious XAM who are literally in like over twenty That's insane,
Speaker 1: Bob Harris, preposterous. Say are these people engaged in like
Speaker 1: meaningful relationships with other human beings? Not that I know of, Yes,
Speaker 1: within their fantasy leagues. I once I got out of
Speaker 1: the fantasy game professionally, that was one big relief off
Speaker 1: my shoulder that you could just play, you know, you
Speaker 1: could just kind of dabble in it for fun instead
Speaker 1: of you're in ten leagues, you're trying. Okay, these are
Speaker 1: the leagues I miss. I miss reading Greg Rosenthal's fantasy analysis. Man.
Speaker 1: I used to read your stuff all the time back
Speaker 1: when I was in CBS and you were a rotal world.
Speaker 1: It was we've both been in the game long time,
Speaker 1: for a long time. I started in two thousand three,
Speaker 1: and I do remember there was the whispers then like,
Speaker 1: oh maybe we're gonna hire Fabriano. Here a road the world.
Speaker 1: But then you went to CBS. It's a it's been
Speaker 1: a long time ten years now. For me, I'm just old.
Speaker 1: That is that is a long time. I think this
Speaker 1: will be my fifteen season on some level in football.
Speaker 1: So let's, without further ado, let's talk a little bit
Speaker 1: what a trip down memory leg Yeah, exactly, helpful. Lot
Speaker 1: of backslap and going on in this round. So what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We're gonna bring back a game that
Speaker 1: we like to call who Do You Trust? And this
Speaker 1: was inspired by a visit I had with Chris Westling
Speaker 1: earlier this week, who's gearing up for the fantasy season.
Speaker 1: In the regular season on his own, and he threw
Speaker 1: out a who do you trust of his own which
Speaker 1: was a little unrelated. He said, who do you trust
Speaker 1: to be back in the lineup faster? Andrew Luck or
Speaker 1: Chris Westling And this seems to me like an obvious choice.
Speaker 1: I don't want to put any pressure and Luck. I
Speaker 1: don't want to put any pressure on Chris west West
Speaker 1: it's not he's been so tough throughout this whole ordeal
Speaker 1: and that the surgery was a lot. But he's starting
Speaker 1: to watch preseason, he had some real hot take us Biskey.
Speaker 1: It's on Twitter, and uh, I don't trust anything that
Speaker 1: comes out of Chuck Bagano's mouth about Andrew Luck. There
Speaker 1: there was a head a headline literally in the Indianapolis
Speaker 1: Star this week that said, Chuck Pogano is a liar.
Speaker 1: Uh here, I think Chuck Pogano's a liar. This was
Speaker 1: written by Greg Doyle shout out to another six G.
Speaker 1: I don't trust what's going on there. I do trust
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley. We've already seen west in this studio when
Speaker 1: he would say himself that he was not He's already
Speaker 1: played hurt a thousand times this offseason. So it's easy
Speaker 1: to trust West in this scenario. So we hope, we
Speaker 1: hope you're back buddy soon. Uh, you know during the
Speaker 1: regular season. He will be back, certainly early in the
Speaker 1: regular season, I expect. But let's move on to some fantasy.
Speaker 1: Let's do it at quarterback, all right? Who do you trust?
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna look early in the draft one of
Speaker 1: our favorites on the Around the NFL podcast, Derek Carr,
Speaker 1: who's a great guy and a great Twitter follow Derek
Speaker 1: Carr or Russell Wilson both six round. For me, it's easy.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Russell Wilson this year. Who I
Speaker 1: trust more. He's done it more consistently. They're passing offense,
Speaker 1: They've increased their attempts in each of the last five years.
Speaker 1: They now have kind of hit their apex with everybody there.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham is fully healthy. They figured out how to
Speaker 1: use him last year. Doug Baldwin is one of the
Speaker 1: most underrated wide receivers in the league. They've got athletic
Speaker 1: speedsters and Paul Richardson and Tyler Lockett just ready to
Speaker 1: make plays all over the field. That backfields a mess.
Speaker 1: Gimme Wilson all day. Overall, it's Wilson that I would
Speaker 1: trust more, but I trust Car more in that I
Speaker 1: don't have to draft him until the tenth, eleventh, or
Speaker 1: twelfth round. Where's Wilson. You're probably drafted in the sixth
Speaker 1: or seventh round. So Car is probably gonna end up
Speaker 1: being the better value from a fantasy perspective. Derek Carr
Speaker 1: is good on camera, and despite all your good points, Alex,
Speaker 1: I'm you with I'm with you, Fabs, We're going Car.
Speaker 1: I'm all in on the Raiders. Yeah, I mean, Card's
Speaker 1: done it the I know Russell Wilson has done it too,
Speaker 1: from a fantasy perspective, but Cars got the same offensive line.
Speaker 1: I mean, the continuity is there, the receiver are there,
Speaker 1: the running backs who were there last year are back,
Speaker 1: and then you're adding Marshawn Lynch to that. In terms
Speaker 1: of trust. To me, Derek car seems a little safer.
Speaker 1: I like that. The fact that Russell Wilson went out
Speaker 1: lost a lot of weight, looks healthy, looks the body
Speaker 1: is almost reaching Nick Shook levels, although the proportions are different.
Speaker 1: I know, man, I feel like less of a man
Speaker 1: sitting next to this gentleman, you should I look at
Speaker 1: those biceps, dude, that's like my cat Like. We got
Speaker 1: a lot of comments on Twitter. Uh did you notice
Speaker 1: that Nick shook? Because it was a video show on
Speaker 1: Wednesday that you were part of. We got a lot
Speaker 1: of comments that you were in Adonis. He does feel
Speaker 1: a little and you you mentioned this. It's a couple
Speaker 1: of he feels a little objectified. Something we need to
Speaker 1: pull I'm speaking to myself, pulled back on the body comments,
Speaker 1: talk about Nick the person? I mean, haven't we objectified? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know women in this society for far too long,
Speaker 1: So shouldn't we k you know, even at out versus
Speaker 1: not objectifying anyone, you must constantly be objectifying someone for
Speaker 1: a while. Okay, got of that cross All right? What's
Speaker 1: what's Who do we trust? Who do you trust? This
Speaker 1: has been a constant debate in this room. But I
Speaker 1: couldn't help but do it because they're getting drafted one
Speaker 1: pick apart according to this average draft position, Jameis Winston
Speaker 1: or Marcus Mariota. Yeah, man, I am all in on Mariota.
Speaker 1: Mariotas who actually have in the top five quarterbacks this season?
Speaker 1: I think this year is Matt Ryan. If you look
Speaker 1: at the numbers, he put up between Week five and
Speaker 1: Week twelve last year the best player in fantasy football.
Speaker 1: So he's got it in him. And he didn't have
Speaker 1: Eric Decker, he didn't have Corey Davis at that point.
Speaker 1: You still got to Marco Murray in that backfield. So
Speaker 1: the Titans will still run it, and you're not gonna
Speaker 1: be able to, you know, stack the box against de
Speaker 1: Marco or Mariota will absolutely rip you apart. I like Jamis,
Speaker 1: don't get me wrong. I think he turns the ball
Speaker 1: over too much. He's got great Yes, it does. You
Speaker 1: lose points for interceptions if you were in a league
Speaker 1: with smart people like James co who were going six touchdown.
Speaker 1: Six points for touchdown, four for interception. On the bad side, yeah,
Speaker 1: interceptions count in fantasy, not standard. Blake Bortles was objectively
Speaker 1: an awful quarterback last year. Still finished as a top
Speaker 1: ten passer though, so but that's because fantasy scoring is flawed.
Speaker 1: It is. But that's what we're talking about. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: you know we're we're here, guys. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: want to get into a big fantasy for me. This
Speaker 1: is for me. This is incredibly close. I I think
Speaker 1: I have Mariota branked slightly higher than Winston. But at
Speaker 1: this point, perhaps I trust Winston a little more. I
Speaker 1: think he's finally got the weapons there. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: there in a competitive division that's gonna have a lot
Speaker 1: of high scoring games. You could see a situation where
Speaker 1: the Titans are just boat racing their division in several
Speaker 1: games and are are running the ball and you know,
Speaker 1: coasting to victory, whereas Winston is going to have to
Speaker 1: match the firepower of the Saints, the Panthers, and the
Speaker 1: Falcons six times throughout this season, so that that could
Speaker 1: it self lead to more high scoring games where fantasy production.
Speaker 1: For the sake of argument, I'm gonna go with Winston here.
Speaker 1: I should have seen this coming. I think Mark's picking
Speaker 1: up on I didn't understand the kind of rivalry that
Speaker 1: might be happening between Fabian Know and Gelhard. There's definitely
Speaker 1: fantasy expert heat. You're not everyone else in the room
Speaker 1: is picking that up, right. I thrive off of any
Speaker 1: sort of pot storing attempts, whether it's hands here, so
Speaker 1: I need to they're just stirring the pot a little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like a little finger of this podcast trying to
Speaker 1: force siblings. Jamis Winston is the right answer here, by
Speaker 1: the way, they both have not the right answer. They
Speaker 1: both have great schedules. That's a good that's a good point.
Speaker 1: So maybe they're both great values. But Winston is the
Speaker 1: one facing you know, the Saints and the Falcon Panthers
Speaker 1: defense is better, but also getting to face those AFC
Speaker 1: South defenses out of division, which is nice, I believe.
Speaker 1: And he's just gonna be throwing more. I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be throwing. I mean, it's a run first offense
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. It's not a run first off. Shook. He
Speaker 1: solve the argument you just sold. You sold Mell and
Speaker 1: Winston because I was gonna go Mariota because I'm a
Speaker 1: huge fan of the exotic smash. But that's exactly why
Speaker 1: it's gotta throw, you think Jamis Winston. Mariota can also
Speaker 1: give you a lot of points. Running with the football
Speaker 1: to Jamie is not so watch not since his rookie year.
Speaker 1: That's true. Uh, but you know what, why not Let's
Speaker 1: go with Jamis. All right, I'm gonna stay at quarterback
Speaker 1: at least not two more. Who do you trust Cam
Speaker 1: Newton coming off a shoulder surgery, surprisingly getting taken still
Speaker 1: pretty high relatively considering he hasn't practiced at all or
Speaker 1: played at all in the preseason. Just about or Ben Roethlisberger?
Speaker 1: Where are the games being played? Is it home or road?
Speaker 1: On the road? I want nothing to with Roethlisberger. Craig,
Speaker 1: you have a weird look on your face. Have you
Speaker 1: not seen the split? Buy into home road split? Dude?
Speaker 1: Are you last year if your average points a game
Speaker 1: on the road and over twenty two at home? He
Speaker 1: was awful against bad teams on the road last year.
Speaker 1: He gave you eight points against the Brown. Numbers against
Speaker 1: the wall some years not randomness quarterback over the last
Speaker 1: couple of normally with you, Greg, but this one has
Speaker 1: some historical like veracity to it. Right, But even if
Speaker 1: you throw numbers against the wall, things will stick for
Speaker 1: a couple of seasons. But it doesn't mean I think
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger is like a bad player. He's a great
Speaker 1: He's a great player. I'm gonna go with Cam Newton
Speaker 1: here too, though, because Ben Roethlisberger, despite his peggory, despite
Speaker 1: how good of a quarterback he is, the offense he
Speaker 1: operates in. He's only been a top twelve quarterback at
Speaker 1: the end of the year I think once in the
Speaker 1: last like six years when you actually break down the numbers,
Speaker 1: whereas Cam, aside from his injured years, has never and
Speaker 1: you know last year counters and injured one top four
Speaker 1: every other year. So it's like it's a real life
Speaker 1: first fantasy type thing. Yeah, where I would always want
Speaker 1: for me on field in real life every season, every year.
Speaker 1: This is not just any big Ben season. This is true.
Speaker 1: We've got everybody an offensive line that's great, We've got
Speaker 1: Martavis Briant back, We've got Antonio Brown, have got Bell
Speaker 1: in his peak. I mean, this should be as good
Speaker 1: a season as he's ever had could be. But I
Speaker 1: still believe in that whole road home split. Look at it.
Speaker 1: I'm serious, take a look at it. And if you
Speaker 1: look at careers Cam Newton, Cam Newton is so far
Speaker 1: and away better in fantasy football than Ben Roethlisberger. It's
Speaker 1: it's the running chek and the last thing I don't
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to endure those two to
Speaker 1: three weeks when Ben Roethlisberger gets nicked up and we
Speaker 1: think he may actually die like he may typically name
Speaker 1: Ravens game he's you know, he's got out. He's he
Speaker 1: always does get injured, but he sells it so high
Speaker 1: and I don't want to deal with that stress on
Speaker 1: my fantasy roster. I'll just take Newton Ben Roethlisberger and
Speaker 1: his bronzed, oversized cleat for his massive swollen ankle. We're
Speaker 1: going with him, just to be different, bab as you
Speaker 1: convinced be on that one. Yeah, brother, look at it
Speaker 1: this week and start for next week and start him
Speaker 1: and sid him. I'm looking at Roethlisberger's numbers in Cleveland
Speaker 1: career wise, and they are awful. He's averaged like game career,
Speaker 1: which is funny because he's about nineteen and two against
Speaker 1: the brown Don't care, I mean I do in real life.
Speaker 1: That's where I divide. This is where I'm actually saying
Speaker 1: a good thing about the Browns, and you're upset about it,
Speaker 1: well because because they're defensive the result, Because in real life,
Speaker 1: what fantasy results are attached to Big Ben, I mean
Speaker 1: nothing to you to the fact that Cleveland is the
Speaker 1: one win they have in like the last decade, came
Speaker 1: in like negative twenty degree temperatures with Josh Cribbs running
Speaker 1: the Wildcat. That actual functional, nonfunctional Brown's offices are like
Speaker 1: two and nineteen against Big Ben is no comfort fantasy
Speaker 1: hat take these historical numbers. It doesn't matter. This is
Speaker 1: all that matters is right now. I'm serious because this
Speaker 1: Brown's team and they don't have anything to do with
Speaker 1: any other Brown's team. This Steeler's team, for the most part,
Speaker 1: don't really have much to do. I would care that.
Speaker 1: I agree. You have to look at what's happening right
Speaker 1: now from fantasy now what happened. But there are weird
Speaker 1: trends out there that are hard to ignore when they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, ten seasons deep. Like Chris Sale for the
Speaker 1: Red Sox, your beloved Red Sox. He's awesome against everybody.
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Indians kill him and this has been his
Speaker 1: entire career. It goes to trend that you can take
Speaker 1: a look at and think, wow, that's really interesting. It's
Speaker 1: interesting by and large. I'm I'm with you on these, Greg,
Speaker 1: but the Roethlisberger one, that one, I it just puzzles me.
Speaker 1: Running back, could you trust more Lashan McCoy or DeMarco Murray.
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray? Uh have to rationalize. Uh. You know there's
Speaker 1: not a lot around. Uh. I know Lasha McCoy. I
Speaker 1: know it is his both potential first round picks and
Speaker 1: fantasy maybe Murray's going in the second. Maybe. I think
Speaker 1: I'd go McCoy by a little bit here that the
Speaker 1: situation is getting dire more and more dire by the
Speaker 1: minute in Buffalo for that offense. But I'll take Shady
Speaker 1: right now. DeMarco has already had a hamstring that worries me.
Speaker 1: He's got that monster monster known as Derrick Henry behind
Speaker 1: him ready to take over the load if he gets
Speaker 1: nicked up. I'll go McCoy. I feel like McCoy could
Speaker 1: wind up on a different team by Week six or so,
Speaker 1: and that could change his whole fantasy world. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: going McCoy as well. You can't ignore last year. Uh.
Speaker 1: And this has been one of the better running backs
Speaker 1: in fantasy football. Uh during his career between Philadelphia and Buffalo. Hey,
Speaker 1: DeMarco has been great too. Don't get me wrong. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't mind having either one of these guys on my roster,
Speaker 1: but if I had to pick one, it would be Shady.
Speaker 1: It's close, but it's not much. But I don't trust
Speaker 1: really either of these guys this year and for their draft,
Speaker 1: for their draft value. And McCoy is a guy you
Speaker 1: guys like to do those do no, do not draftless.
Speaker 1: You kind of come up with some guys to stay
Speaker 1: away from McCoy. Forget about it. I would don't. I
Speaker 1: would not take him in any lay. I still don't
Speaker 1: want him. I know he had a great season last
Speaker 1: year and he's a great player. Sometimes you just gotta say,
Speaker 1: this is a mess. It's gonna be a mess. He
Speaker 1: looks like a potential huge bus. There's at least like
Speaker 1: a thirty five percent chance he is just a massive bus.
Speaker 1: So I just say I feel the same way about
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard, Yes, because all of the same red flags
Speaker 1: are there, if not more, his offensive line is more
Speaker 1: in disrepair. He's got old beat up guys in the interior.
Speaker 1: He's got Mike Glennon or Mitchell Trobiski throwing long. Is
Speaker 1: a good player, and he's gott sitting his head back
Speaker 1: issues for like five straight years. He missed games last
Speaker 1: pretty good last year, but defense might be able to stay.
Speaker 1: Howard would not be a guy. Howard would not be
Speaker 1: a guy. If I was in multiple leagues. I think
Speaker 1: I would ever draft probably either, just because it costs
Speaker 1: so much to You're right when he's in that mix.
Speaker 1: For me, all of those guys, well not DeMarco, he's
Speaker 1: actually in a good offense, but those running backs and
Speaker 1: bad offenses, just the red flags start popping up, scoring
Speaker 1: potential game script like and if they're not get catching passes,
Speaker 1: that really deflates their value. A lot of hot takes
Speaker 1: so far, and we're gonna get to more hot takes
Speaker 1: as we continue. Who do you trust? But I've got
Speaker 1: a treat for everyone in the room right now, especially
Speaker 1: Michael Fabiano, because you have never been in this room.
Speaker 1: When we take a trip and it can get a
Speaker 1: little dangerous over to the fantasy corner. This isn't this
Speaker 1: isn't just any corner. This is kind of going to
Speaker 1: the rough and tumble, you know part of the Are
Speaker 1: you guys putting a dunce cap on? No, No, it's
Speaker 1: sssler and it's not safe. I mean the takes here
Speaker 1: are dangerous. Antagonist, Uh, you might not get out the
Speaker 1: same that you walked into the fantasy corner, but it's
Speaker 1: time to go over there. Actually, like last week, because
Speaker 1: it is a very dangerous scenario. Here a lot of
Speaker 1: heat on the street. If we could just sneak behind
Speaker 1: the store and get inside to read, uh, we're hiding
Speaker 1: in an abandoned building. Nails and Greg and I here, Greg,
Speaker 1: thank you for joining me in here. A p s
Speaker 1: A basically is what this is? What is fantasy football's
Speaker 1: long game? As the rotisseary parlor sport continues to morph
Speaker 1: into a vast money making sensation. What is the fate
Speaker 1: of this virgin industry in a changing world? I see
Speaker 1: three potential outcomes for fantasy football. Scenario number one, it
Speaker 1: balloons unabated as the decades roll on and pro football
Speaker 1: continues it's unquestioned top spot as the nation's favorite pastime,
Speaker 1: leaving baseball, basketball, and something called hockey deep in the
Speaker 1: distance for the next two hundred years. American life grows
Speaker 1: more and more luxury laden as we bathe for the
Speaker 1: rest of our days, and a vicarious wonderland. Scenario number
Speaker 1: two even better, fantasy football becomes such a critical cash
Speaker 1: how for Pro football that by the league takes swift
Speaker 1: action to further inter weave the fan experience into games
Speaker 1: on a core level. Instead of Kyle Shanahan calling plays.
Speaker 1: Game flow is dictated by a pool of three hundred
Speaker 1: thousand lottery winning fantasy players who vote online in between
Speaker 1: snaps on how players should be utilized. In haste, fantasy
Speaker 1: football grows bigger than pro football itself. As a result,
Speaker 1: beat writers, reporters, and so called insiders are wiped off
Speaker 1: the grid in favor of hulking fantasy analysts think tanks
Speaker 1: who covered the hobby with a nationalistic zeal typically reserved
Speaker 1: for political uprising scenario number three. While doing its best
Speaker 1: to completely ignore the swiftly growing culture war in our country,
Speaker 1: pro football, and by attachment, fantasy football continues to market
Speaker 1: itself as the ideal mental release from life stresses. This
Speaker 1: plan works beautifully until October, when a portal opens up
Speaker 1: over ages Golden Triangle region hundreds of miles wide, the
Speaker 1: staggering celestial openinging beams red white light down on the Earth.
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com does its best to ignore the staggering
Speaker 1: Earth event, publishing breathless stories about Patrick Mahomes throwing five
Speaker 1: touchdowns in a Week eight game attended by one hundred
Speaker 1: and sixteen fans. The site wonders why an article ten
Speaker 1: fantasy sleepers who can't be ignored receives nineteen clicks from
Speaker 1: a terrified human race wondering about the hole in the
Speaker 1: sky over Deep Asia. The answer finally comes seven days later,
Speaker 1: when ten thousand beings of light descend from the sky opening,
Speaker 1: hovering over Earth and speaking telepathically to all living creatures.
Speaker 1: The beans announced in unison. The computer simulation is over.
Speaker 1: Time to leave the Fantasy Corner and go back to
Speaker 1: our regularly scheduled program. Those were all extremely plausible, I think.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a lot of laughter there, um,
Speaker 1: but I was chilled. That was that was That was
Speaker 1: one of the toughest trips to the corner because I
Speaker 1: think it opened up a window into a lot of
Speaker 1: our souls. It's gonna make it give us a lot
Speaker 1: to ponder for the futures. I mean, Fabriana was definitely
Speaker 1: a little worried. Yeah, I think it was a little scared,
Speaker 1: a little strip to the corner. That's that's a big one.
Speaker 1: Two of those three options are promising. I feel I
Speaker 1: feel like scenario too, in which Fabriano is leading one
Speaker 1: of those cabals UH deciding what happens on the field.
Speaker 1: That feels to me, like the most realist feels realist possibility.
Speaker 1: Maybe not every team is like that, but Fabian, like
Speaker 1: Fabriano and and other different fantasy decision makers are running
Speaker 1: like a division's worth, like, you know, like one team
Speaker 1: is run by the thing. I could see that there
Speaker 1: would never be backfield committees again. We'd go back to
Speaker 1: the days of featured backs. It would be tremendous. Marie
Speaker 1: Cooper and Julio Jones would get targeted near the goal line. Yes,
Speaker 1: wonderful Rob Gronkowski, you know, we inject him with some
Speaker 1: adam antium and yeah, they viewed this is all a
Speaker 1: good thing. That two of the three scenarios are pretty wow.
Speaker 1: It's almost hard to move on from that, but we're
Speaker 1: going to We're gonna keep going back to a little
Speaker 1: who do you trust? And uh, I do have a
Speaker 1: little breaking news before we get out of here just
Speaker 1: a few minutes. But before we do that, let's throw
Speaker 1: out Let's try to be quick since we are are
Speaker 1: running out of time, but I got a few more
Speaker 1: to get to. Let's let's go who do you trust
Speaker 1: that running back? Kareem Hunt or Time Montgomery or Joe Mixon. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm going with Kareem Hunt here, I've got all these
Speaker 1: guys really kind of bunched together in my ranking him.
Speaker 1: You know, Mixing is probably more talented than all three,
Speaker 1: but you've got Jeremy Hill and Joe Bernard there still.
Speaker 1: At some point, I do believe he's gonna end up
Speaker 1: being the guy, uh sooner than later. But Kareem Hunt
Speaker 1: is in an offense where we know he's gonna be
Speaker 1: a featured back. At least we all suspect he will be.
Speaker 1: With Spencer Ware out for the year. If you look
Speaker 1: at Andy Reid's pedigree when it comes to fantasy running backs,
Speaker 1: you go back to Brian Westbrook and Do Staley, Uh,
Speaker 1: and Shady and Charles. He's had a lot of running
Speaker 1: backs put up good numbers. Heck, even Correl buck Halter,
Speaker 1: you remember him. He had a couple of decent fantasy
Speaker 1: seasons as well. So I would go with Hunt because
Speaker 1: I know he's going to get the volume. I know
Speaker 1: the offense is conducive to running backs finding success, and
Speaker 1: I know this kid is versatile. Hopefully he doesn't get
Speaker 1: blown up in pass protection too much because that could
Speaker 1: be a problem. Otherwise, I do think he has all
Speaker 1: the skills to be a very solid RB two Fabiano
Speaker 1: with the buck Halter, Go go. I'm with you on
Speaker 1: the mixing thing. Well, he is extremely talented. Talent doesn't
Speaker 1: always win out in fantasy. It's opportunity. And while Kareem
Speaker 1: Hunt has a lot, I'm gonna be a bit of
Speaker 1: a homer here and also knew the side of Time Montgomery,
Speaker 1: a guy who is a converted wide receiver now playing
Speaker 1: running back. But he's big, he's strong, he's fast, he
Speaker 1: can run between the tackles. Jamal Williams this rookie that
Speaker 1: got Fantasy Twitter all ablaze when he was drafted by
Speaker 1: the Packers. You know what. His longest run in the
Speaker 1: preseason was six yards. Get that out of here. I
Speaker 1: want Time a gut Montgomery in there breaking tackles. Per
Speaker 1: Next Gen Stats, he had one of the highest yards
Speaker 1: after a defender was within one yard of him created
Speaker 1: on his own over five point five for Carrie. He
Speaker 1: caught about seventy seven percent of his passes last year
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, so it wasn't like he got
Speaker 1: all those as a wide receiver. His ceiling is outrageous.
Speaker 1: In one of the highest scoring offenses in the League
Speaker 1: back when ed in Eddie Lacy's hey day he finished
Speaker 1: the RB six and back to back years. That is
Speaker 1: well within time Montgomery's range of outcomes. Give me the
Speaker 1: running back in the high scoring offense who can catch
Speaker 1: a million passes all day, every day. I got a
Speaker 1: chance to break down a lot of time montgomery film
Speaker 1: last year, and I loved what I saw. And I
Speaker 1: love him for all the reasons that you just pretty
Speaker 1: much pointed out. I don't really have much else to
Speaker 1: expand that he's he's good and and he's he's got
Speaker 1: an ability to create some extra yards. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's necessarily as important in what we're talking about
Speaker 1: right now, but just looking at him as a running
Speaker 1: back who's multi talented, I like the guy I tried.
Speaker 1: I trust in talent. I I think that's more important
Speaker 1: in general ty and leaning. I was leading TI, but
Speaker 1: I would still go to make and I think fantasy
Speaker 1: gets too caught up with what's the situation going into
Speaker 1: Week one? Just who's the best player. If you make
Speaker 1: those decisions a lot, then you I think over time,
Speaker 1: you get rewarded. So all three are close. I kind
Speaker 1: of like all three, but i'd good Joe Mixing, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's close. And Montgomery he he had a huge percentage
Speaker 1: of his fantasy points last year in that one game
Speaker 1: against Chicago Bears, and the Packers have a lot of
Speaker 1: offensive weapons. I like Montgomery, but I just feel like
Speaker 1: Hunt is going to be a guy who's going to
Speaker 1: see more touches. Mark Sess, I believe you have a
Speaker 1: who do you trust? To throw out there? I do, alright,
Speaker 1: imagine this scenario. You are a single guy and utterly
Speaker 1: terrible with women. Not too hard for some of us
Speaker 1: in this room, or all of us except for Nick Shook.
Speaker 1: To imagine others maybe too, I don't know. You're working
Speaker 1: a dead end job in an office in some anonymous
Speaker 1: city by the sea. Over the past four months, you've
Speaker 1: developed a killer crush on Juliette Kasmar, the low level
Speaker 1: account relations analyst who sits fourteen feet away in a
Speaker 1: cubicle on who once told you that she loves gaming,
Speaker 1: especially World of Warcraft. In an effort to win her over,
Speaker 1: you need one NFL dot com fan to see analyst
Speaker 1: to swoop in and organize the perfect first date. Do
Speaker 1: you trust Marcus Grant? By my account, a smooth fellow
Speaker 1: or anyone else attached to the fantasy team. Who nails
Speaker 1: this assignment? Who do you trust? WHOA? I trust? Marcus Grant?
Speaker 1: Interesting Marcus. Marcus Grant also as a smooth you can
Speaker 1: pick yourself by the way, has he has deep nerd
Speaker 1: WI I'll just go with Marcus Grant. I'm already on
Speaker 1: this train. He has deep nerd cred. He's a creative guy,
Speaker 1: has many, many interests. I think you'd be able to
Speaker 1: contract longtime listeners of the show. You know, I love you, Marcus,
Speaker 1: But longtime listeners of the show, well know. I always
Speaker 1: take the field. So I don't know, I don't even
Speaker 1: know who it is, but I'm taking the field. I
Speaker 1: mean you have if you have to pick someone, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to be to pick someone with taking the
Speaker 1: rest of the group. Someone's gonna step up. I'm taking myself. Okay,
Speaker 1: why would I not take myself? That that right? There
Speaker 1: is a move that that speaks to have you guys
Speaker 1: seen my girlfriend? That's a good that's a fair point.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I'm done, Trump, You've done the
Speaker 1: work already said yes. The best players believe with themselves.
Speaker 1: Marcus is a social chameleon. I've seen him in multiple
Speaker 1: social scenarios and he's thrived in all of them. I'm
Speaker 1: taking him every time. All right, Uh, let's do a
Speaker 1: speed round before a little breaking news. I was shocked
Speaker 1: that Danny Woodhead is getting drafted so high. Who do
Speaker 1: you trust? Danny Woodhead, Eddie Lacey or Thomas Rawlshead? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, is anybody in Seattle I don't trust in
Speaker 1: the running back spot. No, Baltimore is targeted running backs
Speaker 1: the second most out of any team the past two years.
Speaker 1: Why would you not want a great guy who can
Speaker 1: catch pass and do work in the red zone? Thirty
Speaker 1: four year old who literally didn't play football on a
Speaker 1: terrible offense. And you haven't seen him play football in
Speaker 1: a long long time. The last time I saw him
Speaker 1: play football, he was damn good. Bad Offen is gonna
Speaker 1: have to throw the ball a lot to Danny Woodhead.
Speaker 1: How could you? Eddie Lacey has been awful for two years.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I mean, come on, I would go
Speaker 1: Thomas ross wow uh In in the backfield with four
Speaker 1: guys who could potentially see thirty three in uh in January.
Speaker 1: And he's from North Platte Nebraska. Who Midwestern? Alright, who
Speaker 1: do you trust? T Y Hilton or Keenan Allen. Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen is Andrew luck Plague if Andrew looks there, t
Speaker 1: Y Hilton Otherwise this weekend. I don't like to you
Speaker 1: why this weekend at all? Okay, Des Bryant or Michael
Speaker 1: Thomas or Amari Cooper. I have Michael Thomas ranked ahead
Speaker 1: of Dez by one spot, and as a Cowboys homer,
Speaker 1: it pains me to say that, but it's Michael Thomas.
Speaker 1: I gotta go with Michael Thomas too. Again, wrong answer.
Speaker 1: It's Des Bryant. Finally, Martavis Bryant, Mary Tavis Bryant or
Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin their last one, not even close. It's Martavis
Speaker 1: Bryant by a mile. We're talking about. Had a nice pa,
Speaker 1: pretty quiet in in practice in preseason. Benjamin even last year,
Speaker 1: had like seven touchdowns in a thousand yards coming off
Speaker 1: of torn a c L. I'll take that. He's fully back,
Speaker 1: but he did everything in the first three weeks of
Speaker 1: the year, and then he was garbage. So what the
Speaker 1: last time we saw Martavis Bryan on the field, all right,
Speaker 1: when we did, he was damn good too. Fifteen touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Two games feature on Martavis Bryan that convinces me I'm
Speaker 1: sold he'll be on the field all year this year,
Speaker 1: and uh, that's it for the fantasy Uh extravagances, a
Speaker 1: lot of heat, there, a lot of danger. Enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: The potential either end or explosion of the entire fantasy industry.
Speaker 1: So that was exciting. I'm gonna have nightmares about that
Speaker 1: simulation coming to an end. That would have been breaking news.
Speaker 1: And I think we have some of our own. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we do have some big breaking news before we leave.
Speaker 1: How about this. The Seattle Seahawks have made the best
Speaker 1: defense in football even better acquiring Sheldon Richardson from the
Speaker 1: Jets in exchange for Jermaine Curse. Jermaine Curse and a
Speaker 1: conditional second round pick that is from our NFL Network insiders,
Speaker 1: he and Rappidport and Mike garra Folo. Wow, the Seahawks
Speaker 1: pick up Richardson and it costs a law given up
Speaker 1: a conditional second Dan Hands, as our host, pointed out
Speaker 1: this possibility just last show well, and he was actually
Speaker 1: correct on the potential you know, draft pick reward going
Speaker 1: the other way, which I think is a great prediction
Speaker 1: by him, and he's in a contract here. So if
Speaker 1: you're Seattle, you know this is not a team that's
Speaker 1: in a you know, one year super Bowl window. You
Speaker 1: want to try to find a way to keep him
Speaker 1: on your uster for a long time. But they needed
Speaker 1: to get that line. They've really had a trouble actually
Speaker 1: getting the interior of their line settled. They've always had
Speaker 1: kind of just guys and that's fine. Since the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: they spent in me Baine and uh whoever else I'm forgetting,
Speaker 1: and then they have Ruben as well. It looks like
Speaker 1: they're trying to trade to get in reverse here. They
Speaker 1: spend their money on the outside. But wow, I said
Speaker 1: it earlier. I think this is the best defense in
Speaker 1: the league. When you have Bennett, April, Thomas Sherman, Wagner,
Speaker 1: kJ Wright all together that they played together, and now
Speaker 1: you add Richardson, who can be a younger guy added
Speaker 1: to that mix. It's reminds you of the Percy Harvon trade,
Speaker 1: which had the results at best for the Seahawks. But
Speaker 1: I like the chance they're taking, especially because Richardson looked
Speaker 1: great in the preseason. Um this is kind of a
Speaker 1: nerdy view of this, but I'm curious to see what
Speaker 1: the terms of the draft pick are, what makes it,
Speaker 1: you know, conditional terms of whether it's it sounds like
Speaker 1: it'll be a second or a third. So either way
Speaker 1: they're getting okay because it's gotta be based on Richardson's
Speaker 1: performance most likely. So I just want to know what
Speaker 1: the benchmarks are for that well, and what's the Percy
Speaker 1: Harvin in terms of the daring do attached to it? Yes,
Speaker 1: but Percy Harvin created issues right away from Seattle in
Speaker 1: terms of how to fit them in, and it kind
Speaker 1: of split up that locker room. This is not someone
Speaker 1: that you need to figure out how to plug into
Speaker 1: your defense. No. I mean, motivation has certainly been I
Speaker 1: think an issue with Richardson, but he's in a contract here.
Speaker 1: And the difference is this isn't an offensive team. This
Speaker 1: is a defensive team. You get Pete Carroll, some guys
Speaker 1: who hadn't done quite as much in other places, like
Speaker 1: Michael Bennett, like Cliff Ariel, who knows how to coach
Speaker 1: up talent. I mean, he is, along with Belichick but
Speaker 1: maybe even more so, the premier defensive coach in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And you give him Sheldon Richardson. This was my Super
Speaker 1: Bowl pick before this trade. It's double my super Bowl pawn.
Speaker 1: If you're not motivated to play football as a defender
Speaker 1: in Seattle, there's no reason you should be playing at all.
Speaker 1: How about the NFL starting to come through with some
Speaker 1: big time trades? The trades? Where were these for all
Speaker 1: those years? It's a it's a salary cap thing. I
Speaker 1: really believe that there's more flexibility because the salary cap
Speaker 1: is so high, you can do something like take on
Speaker 1: eight million dollars of Sheldon Richardson. And that's your main curse?
Speaker 1: Is there? Even there's no fantasy and pay you're not.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, jeez, Robby Anderson, You've got Chad Hanson.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's not a whole lot to like
Speaker 1: team hashtag never Jets Fantasy this year, I would take
Speaker 1: Billy Powell. But that's about it. Wow, alright, some breaking
Speaker 1: news as we and what a fun day this was
Speaker 1: on the program getting Fabiano in the Student. I know, man,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to make another appearance in What I
Speaker 1: want to be Salty. You are a leap year. By
Speaker 1: then they may not have fantasy. Yeah. By the mark scenarios.
Speaker 1: You'll be running your own franchise, so you can fire
Speaker 1: us all for the lack of respect we apparently showed
Speaker 1: you that show. I would never do such a thing.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get out. Lets you make me another four.
Speaker 1: Let's get out of here. For the Sizzler, for Nick
Speaker 1: shooking all those muscles, for Michael Fabriano, Alex galhar Erica,
Speaker 1: Tam Posty behind the glass, hands us some way back
Speaker 1: Tuesday there next show. We'll see you