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Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show, Today's Around the NFL podcast,
Speaker 1: We're going to review the two Monday night football games,
Speaker 1: uh that took place in Denver and Minneapolis and and
Speaker 1: finally I think it's called Minneapolis, correct and pronunciate there properly.
Speaker 1: Also a Thursday night preview, Greg's excited he was carrying
Speaker 1: that water for the network on Sunday Night show. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's a Jacksonville Houston matchup, I believe No, that's total
Speaker 1: are playing the Cincinnati Bengals close one week to be
Speaker 1: ignoring the Bengals Dan one of the great playoff rivalries
Speaker 1: of this decade. Very exciting. And you know we don't
Speaker 1: do this often, so uh, you know, hold on to
Speaker 1: your butts. But Doug Baldwin, the Seattle sea Hawks wide receiver,
Speaker 1: will be on the team cam from Seahawks headquarters and
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to Dougie. How about that? Why not
Speaker 1: time player that Doug He's listen. We usually don't have guests.
Speaker 1: If you know the show, this is not news. But
Speaker 1: you don't like people, period. Yeah, just end the statement.
Speaker 1: But Doug Baldwin is one of the best wide receivers
Speaker 1: in the league on one of the best teams in
Speaker 1: the league. You should, I mean, you should do that
Speaker 1: way more often. The last time I was the last
Speaker 1: time you had a player on don't direct our show,
Speaker 1: collegue just because you're a big star. Tony Romo was great,
Speaker 1: wasn't he The last guy on? Tony Romo was on
Speaker 1: the show. I would not say he was great. But
Speaker 1: let's start with the Monday night football, and let's begin
Speaker 1: with the late late game in Denver. Second time and
Speaker 1: it is no good. It's blocked here. Let's who gets
Speaker 1: a hand on it. Shelby Harris. Shelby Harris shot through
Speaker 1: the line and deflected Young way Who's forty four yard
Speaker 1: field goal attempt with one second to play, allowing the
Speaker 1: Broncos to survive a furious comeback attempt by Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: and company for the Broncos over the Chargers on Monday Night,
Speaker 1: Greg this one from laffer to nail biter in a hurry,
Speaker 1: closing out Week one with some much needed juice. Yeah
Speaker 1: we need we needed that. That game was shockingly one
Speaker 1: sided for most of the game. I think the better
Speaker 1: team won in terms of the Broncos deserving it. But
Speaker 1: what a disappointing ending that Philip Rivers got the ball
Speaker 1: back twice there in the fourth quarter. First time they
Speaker 1: had to punt, second time after some very curious clock
Speaker 1: management by Anthony Lynn and I guess we can throw
Speaker 1: Rivers in there. They do get in great position for
Speaker 1: a pretty short field going and like, what a let
Speaker 1: that I was thinking, this is gonna be the new
Speaker 1: l A Chargers. You know, the San Diego Chargers were
Speaker 1: on the opposite side of this game, and maybe the
Speaker 1: l A Chargers would find ways to win a crazy game.
Speaker 1: But now they were still the Chargers. There was no
Speaker 1: sense of urgency at the end. At different points for
Speaker 1: the Chargers. I was watching and I was yelling at them,
Speaker 1: go go what are you doing? Like I don't understand
Speaker 1: why they were just letting time run off the clock.
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't very well played down. No it wasn't.
Speaker 1: And that does look like stuff we've seen from the
Speaker 1: Chargers in the past, and to me, I guess the
Speaker 1: comeback is the story of the game. But I don't
Speaker 1: think you're in that position if you're Los Angeles without
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon in his opening start here in two thousand seventeen,
Speaker 1: playing a fascinating game. I love this guy. I think
Speaker 1: he's got an incredible arm I think they trust him
Speaker 1: to do much more than last year, and he They
Speaker 1: were in complete control of this game until the final
Speaker 1: ten minutes. Simeon played extremely well. The comeback came on
Speaker 1: a couple of turnovers and you open the door for
Speaker 1: Phil Rivers and he's going to take advantage of which
Speaker 1: is exactly what he did. I just want to we'll
Speaker 1: get back to Simeon, but I just want to stick
Speaker 1: with the end of the game for a second more
Speaker 1: here and and talk about how and we all get
Speaker 1: on the um the icing the kicker. It's horrible. I
Speaker 1: would love if one of these league meetings that came
Speaker 1: out and just said, no, you can't call time out
Speaker 1: with less than five second. Why. I just don't like
Speaker 1: bad bad for the sport. They do a lot of
Speaker 1: things that just are bad to watch it. It doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense and like a sporting way, like if you're
Speaker 1: trying to explain it to a kid, like wait, why
Speaker 1: didn't that ac count? Wait? They're allowed to take a
Speaker 1: time out just for it always generates negative buzz, So
Speaker 1: I I will say in the in the in this case, yeah,
Speaker 1: just keep talking, just ignore what wait. Let me just
Speaker 1: young Waiku Um makes the kick for the first time. Uh,
Speaker 1: it gets waved off and then they called time out.
Speaker 1: He gets out there and it was a bit of
Speaker 1: gamesmanship by Derek Wolfe and the defensive line. Does anybody
Speaker 1: know the backstory between this? I know we're talking about
Speaker 1: it downstairs. But Derek Wolfe, I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: so much gamesmanship as just intelligence from a veteran. He
Speaker 1: was beating Dan Feeney, the Chargers guard, all game long,
Speaker 1: just being him like a drum. That's how he felt.
Speaker 1: On the first field goal attempt, again, he's going up
Speaker 1: against Poenie. He beats him easy. He sets it up
Speaker 1: with Harris after that first attempt, saying, hey, look I
Speaker 1: can I can clear a lane for you. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: beat Phoenie. Let me kind of knock him to the side.
Speaker 1: You can go through that lane, get up in there
Speaker 1: and block it. It It was a two man um combination platter, basically,
Speaker 1: and what a job by wolf to ba to save
Speaker 1: the game. Absolutely, that wasn't the kicker's fault. It was
Speaker 1: a rare one. It was not the kicker's fault. It's
Speaker 1: one thing to call the time out and they make
Speaker 1: it and you have another chance to have them not
Speaker 1: tie the game. That's great. But to make adjustments, if
Speaker 1: you're the if you're Denver, to make adjustments during that
Speaker 1: brief period of time and have it have a seismic
Speaker 1: effect on the game. It's so now the stage is yours.
Speaker 1: You like the fact that he bangs the field go
Speaker 1: through the uprights, but the play doesn't count because vance
Speaker 1: Joseph is I mean, I don't. I don't like it
Speaker 1: for the Chargers or for the kicker. But with without that,
Speaker 1: then the Broncos would have made be lost the game.
Speaker 1: It would have tied it, they would have went to overtime.
Speaker 1: It would have been But I like the added drama
Speaker 1: of it. I like the oh my god, he just
Speaker 1: made it and now he's got to do it. Doesn't
Speaker 1: It doesn't always work. Sometimes you're the team that they
Speaker 1: missed the first Andy for like wasting all of his
Speaker 1: time out when it doesn't work out. It's my favorite part.
Speaker 1: Right numbers showed that it hurts you just as often
Speaker 1: as it helps you. In this case, it helps. I
Speaker 1: could be wrong, but I think the Chargers might have
Speaker 1: been on the flip side of this. Uh last season,
Speaker 1: certainly one or two teams were where, yeah, they called
Speaker 1: the time out off of a miss and the guy
Speaker 1: made it after he had a nice little warm up.
Speaker 1: The Chargers, and you know, one of the reasons they
Speaker 1: were at the top of my pain rankings. The moving
Speaker 1: thing was the reason why I made him number one.
Speaker 1: But this team, this they are, They've been doing this
Speaker 1: for decades. They know how to lose games. They they
Speaker 1: they're one of those teams that always find ways to
Speaker 1: to kill their their fans with a really crushing loss
Speaker 1: and to come all the way back in the game
Speaker 1: that was over. You could even tell the crowd in
Speaker 1: Denver was celebrating in the fourth quarter and then almost
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa. We were all texting about what
Speaker 1: a bad what a surprisingly one sided game and weekend
Speaker 1: it was. They scored two touchdowns in a minute ten
Speaker 1: that second when they hit that second touchdown to Travis Benjamin,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, there's seven minutes plenty of time. And Greg,
Speaker 1: you were you were on the Trevor Simeon train earlier
Speaker 1: this offseason in the sense that's saying, let's wait and
Speaker 1: see this guy is the real deal. And he looked
Speaker 1: very much like not just the seventh round guy that's
Speaker 1: waiting for Paxton Lynch to develop, but like a real
Speaker 1: quarterback today. He's he started so few games in his
Speaker 1: NFL career that why can't we expect him to keep
Speaker 1: getting better? For a first year starter, he was really
Speaker 1: good and I think we saw what he can do
Speaker 1: with a little bit better protection, although it fell apart
Speaker 1: late and a running game. They didn't have a running
Speaker 1: game last year and they definitely didn't have protection. It
Speaker 1: is worth pointing out though he's an inconsistent quarterback, Like
Speaker 1: he threw a pick six to start the game and
Speaker 1: everyone's like it's a totally one sided game. It should
Speaker 1: have been a pick six Casey Hayward dropped it, like
Speaker 1: those are things that just happened in an NFL game.
Speaker 1: What I love about him though, is there's nothing limited
Speaker 1: about him physically in terms of his throwing ability and
Speaker 1: and the fact that they're old Paxiston Lynch at some
Speaker 1: point just gonna be put into this starting role, not
Speaker 1: with what they're seeing. Because Trevor Simeon last year four
Speaker 1: no before he heard his shoulder and then they lost C. J.
Speaker 1: Anderson in a week seven, that offense never was at
Speaker 1: full power. Last night, we saw what they could do.
Speaker 1: Joke and Joey both side of it. Can move, He
Speaker 1: can move Packiston Lynch had his opportunity this summer and
Speaker 1: in training camp to to win that job, and now
Speaker 1: that he missed the second opportunity he might have to
Speaker 1: get comfortable on the bench. Let's move on to the
Speaker 1: first game of Monday night football in Minneapolis. Faked the
Speaker 1: handle like to the right, Ranford throws right corner of
Speaker 1: the ends. All have a Vikings go out in front.
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford was a man possessed on Monday Night, passing
Speaker 1: for three forty six yards and three to downs to
Speaker 1: help the Vikings ease pass the Saints twenty nine to nineteen.
Speaker 1: Uh Mark. This was supposed to be about Adrian Peterson's
Speaker 1: big return to Minnesota, but instead we got a glimpse
Speaker 1: on how tough the Vikings can be when it's all clicking.
Speaker 1: I mean, we just talked about the fact that Trevor
Speaker 1: Simeon and someone who could still grow. It's crazy to
Speaker 1: me that in sen we get the greatest Sam Bradford
Speaker 1: game you could ever imagine a guy that went half
Speaker 1: a decade without producing even a memorable game, even a
Speaker 1: moment that you could point to and say, that's why
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford's in this league and why he was the
Speaker 1: number one pick last night. This offense, it's just as
Speaker 1: much as Denver seemed to grow with Simon in year two.
Speaker 1: This thing came together together for the for the Vikings.
Speaker 1: I wrote yesterday that I thought the story of the
Speaker 1: game coming out would be that the Saints finally, for
Speaker 1: once could rely on their defense to come in and
Speaker 1: cause an upset. Couldn't have been more wrong. This was
Speaker 1: I kept I was watching this game, and I kept
Speaker 1: having to sort of temper my emotions because I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this Vikings team, this offense is so
Speaker 1: much fun to watch. They have a lot of really
Speaker 1: fun playmakers, and is Sam Bradford actually good? But they
Speaker 1: played the Saints defense and that's been the problem all
Speaker 1: along for the Saints the past couple of years. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I can trust yet what I saw
Speaker 1: last night from the st from the Vikings offense. Those throws, though,
Speaker 1: didn't matter what defense you're playing, there were no windows there.
Speaker 1: Like the play I I give the Saints defense some
Speaker 1: criticism in this game, but sometimes you just have to
Speaker 1: give credit. Stefon Diggs made great catches and Bradford made
Speaker 1: great throw. What about that throw to divorce right? It
Speaker 1: was so beautiful, So I you kind of have to
Speaker 1: just tip your cap to the offense on on a
Speaker 1: lot of these places, I guess my takeaway from the
Speaker 1: game was the Vikings who no buzz around the Vikings
Speaker 1: in the off season, But when when they everything's clicking,
Speaker 1: when their offensive line which is a total makeover and
Speaker 1: so far, so good, and their defense is always good.
Speaker 1: When Bradford is accurate and they're in that building, they're
Speaker 1: very good home team. They're frisky. So Dalvin Cook had
Speaker 1: an amazing night. Yeah I don't know, and yeah Cook went.
Speaker 1: This team could definitely contend if things stay like this.
Speaker 1: It's hard to keep it like that. And what a
Speaker 1: fun NFC North this would be if they continue on
Speaker 1: the same path that the pack Well, if the Packers
Speaker 1: are good, and then the Lions. I mean that could
Speaker 1: be a three team race. Team that started six and
Speaker 1: oh last year and couldn't couldn't finish and won a
Speaker 1: lot of close games and they were ugly and defense,
Speaker 1: and so I think they have to love winning the game.
Speaker 1: A little Differently, them and the Broncos remind me a
Speaker 1: lot of each other because they both had no running
Speaker 1: games last year and very poorer lines. And if they
Speaker 1: can just improve both of those two average and there's
Speaker 1: a good chance Dalvin Cook is better than average, then
Speaker 1: suddenly the rest of your team can start making a
Speaker 1: lot more sense. And people were telling on themselves when
Speaker 1: they were like Stefan Diggs breakout game and oh wow,
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford can finally throw deep. Sam Bradford could throw
Speaker 1: deep last year, we said on this podcast all season long.
Speaker 1: And Stefan Diggs has been great, He's been stuck in
Speaker 1: a terrible offense and he's a great player. What about
Speaker 1: Adam Feeling? I mean, yet I'm dealing in weeks sixteen
Speaker 1: last year had a two hundred yard game. He came
Speaker 1: close last night a hundred and fifty seven. They have
Speaker 1: You know, yes, la Kwan Treadwell is not panned out
Speaker 1: at all, but I found a way to grow other
Speaker 1: other weapons. Yeah did he even he had a catch?
Speaker 1: That's when you know, like that's a thing we because
Speaker 1: they did start six and oh and we were having
Speaker 1: we're gushing about the vikings. That's not always going to
Speaker 1: be this easy. But I was roundly villainized for somehow,
Speaker 1: you know, convincing you guys to make it not you
Speaker 1: didn't want to hear it. You never convinced me. For
Speaker 1: the Raiders that got turned away, had that turn out
Speaker 1: last night, I think it was midway through the third
Speaker 1: quarter when Mark was like vikings for team, Well, I
Speaker 1: was I was overtly kidding because I'm not. I'm never
Speaker 1: pitching the team ever for that again in my life.
Speaker 1: Um And but you know, hey Saints, you look a
Speaker 1: lot like a seven and nine team. Again, let's say
Speaker 1: it's tough because they say they're home to the Patriots,
Speaker 1: which is a huge game for them and for the Patriots,
Speaker 1: and then they're on the road in Caroline in Miami,
Speaker 1: so they have only one home game and they've had
Speaker 1: these one and three or or owen three or four
Speaker 1: and they're headed forward again. You know, those are really
Speaker 1: tough slates. Their offense was also very uneven. Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: only with nine snaps in that game, and they got
Speaker 1: to the red zone, I think inside the ten yardland
Speaker 1: three times where they settled for field goals. So it
Speaker 1: could have been a different game. But they're a little
Speaker 1: like thin net receiver and they're figuring out. They lost
Speaker 1: Zack Streef last night, which they were already playing their
Speaker 1: backup Ryan Ramcheck because of Tehran Armstead going down and
Speaker 1: see the pocket collapsing over and over. One last quick question.
Speaker 1: It would anyone be shocked if Adrian Peterson were not
Speaker 1: on the roster at the end of this season, at
Speaker 1: the end, by the end of the year, by by
Speaker 1: week seventeen, he's not even like during the season obviously
Speaker 1: this season, I would not be surprised. I would be
Speaker 1: surprised if they cut him during the season. Yes, I
Speaker 1: would be shocked. I think he'll stick around, but I
Speaker 1: think it's interesting to see how he was used in
Speaker 1: this game. When the Saints are winning and they're trying
Speaker 1: to run clock, he's going to have a role. But
Speaker 1: in the instances like tonight, they don't really seem to
Speaker 1: have a use for from They even try to work
Speaker 1: him into the passing game near the goal line once
Speaker 1: didn't work out. It was all this media outrage about
Speaker 1: him not being there was you know, show him his respect,
Speaker 1: get him in there. Peterson about you've been self scouting
Speaker 1: your team all summer and he's not biggest, have better
Speaker 1: options at this stage. Adrian Peterson still looks like he's
Speaker 1: twenty three, and I'm a little jealous of it, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, But he's thirty two year old
Speaker 1: running back that hasn't been great and no. Wonder mentally
Speaker 1: how he's going to deal with that, because it didn't
Speaker 1: look like he was dealing with it very well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it has to be frustrating. You go back to Minnesota
Speaker 1: and you've been playing it out in your mind all
Speaker 1: summer and then it's a and Dalvin Cook sets the
Speaker 1: rookie day in front of your faith for the Vikings,
Speaker 1: It's a good sign for the Saints that that Peyton
Speaker 1: trust Salvin Kamara that much that he played it more
Speaker 1: than mark Ingram. That's what I'm surprised about Marking. I'm
Speaker 1: so good. I kind of hate seeing him only get
Speaker 1: twenty snaps. Louis Cannon, Hi, how are you? Good? Stuff?
Speaker 1: Good stuff? Good start to the show, a lot of
Speaker 1: football talk. They moved the decks desk, so I have
Speaker 1: to look behind Greg to see you really mess up?
Speaker 1: You know that's we're watching that The Mike and the
Speaker 1: Mad Dog thirty for thirty where they tucked about the
Speaker 1: power chair. You need to see the producer and I
Speaker 1: need to look around Greg. I feel like maybe this
Speaker 1: is a I can see her perfectly, so maybe I'm
Speaker 1: in the past. No, I actually can't see her at
Speaker 1: all because the camera is very clear on the end,
Speaker 1: everyone's conspiring against me. That's my takeaway. Let's do some
Speaker 1: news here. He is having the time of his life
Speaker 1: this night, making his debut, and we will start with
Speaker 1: bad news for the Arizona Cardinals. Uh, David Johnson will
Speaker 1: undergo undergo wrisk surgery this week. He's expected to be
Speaker 1: out two to three months. NFL Networks Mike Garafolo reported,
Speaker 1: according to a source informed of the situation, Yes, be
Speaker 1: On first had this. Of course he suffered the injury
Speaker 1: in week one. He got a second opinion on the risk.
Speaker 1: There was hope, Colleen, that this was going to be
Speaker 1: a situation, uh where they would be able to uh
Speaker 1: not miss too much time. But now the guy that
Speaker 1: was the entire offense for that team last year, coming
Speaker 1: off a game in which Carson Palmer frankly looked u
Speaker 1: like late period Peyton Manning Dan Reno, and now David
Speaker 1: Johnson's gone for half the season, if not more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a huge blow to the offense. Carson Palmer looked
Speaker 1: really rusty. And then you add in the fact that
Speaker 1: they're best offensive player. They're gonna lose now. And this
Speaker 1: is a guy who led the NFL in total yards
Speaker 1: and touchdowns. Last year he was everything sort of ran
Speaker 1: through him and it opened up everything for Carson Palmer.
Speaker 1: But now that you don't have him, and you have
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer not looking like he did two years ago,
Speaker 1: that's a major problem. S O S. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a team. It is, it is September twelve, and
Speaker 1: it could not possibly you couldn't have scripted it more
Speaker 1: grim beginning to the season. This guy who talked about
Speaker 1: wanting to get a thousand yards on the ground and
Speaker 1: through the air, and I think he could have done it,
Speaker 1: and he talked about thirty plus touches a game and
Speaker 1: the team was on board with that. And what's behind
Speaker 1: him is literally incapable of producing anything close Kerwin Williams
Speaker 1: Andrea Ellington. They re signed Chris Johnson, who they got
Speaker 1: rid of because they didn't think he was any good
Speaker 1: in it right, so he'll probably have a fairly minor role.
Speaker 1: It's a really good defense potentially. They certainly collapsed in
Speaker 1: that Detroit game after a while, but they they're m
Speaker 1: O is not really like, let's win with defense and
Speaker 1: just enough from Carson Palmer. I'm not willing to write
Speaker 1: off Carson Palmer after one game, but it's putting a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure on him and the passing game, which
Speaker 1: by the way, is missing their starting left tackle for
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks with d J. Humphries. The
Speaker 1: good news is they do have the Colts this week. Uh,
Speaker 1: they do host the forty niners in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: They play the Cowboys in between. I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: you can get out to a two and to start
Speaker 1: there and you then find well, you find your legs
Speaker 1: as a different order of defense team, and Carson Palmer
Speaker 1: has to be good. Just by the way, they also
Speaker 1: had a Cowboys in the middle of that, and at
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the middle, maybe you get two wins
Speaker 1: two and two. I think Palmer can be good. Right
Speaker 1: in the short term, you need some good news and
Speaker 1: and the Colts with Scott Tolzine or whoever coming uh
Speaker 1: coming up next, that's some good news. If they lose,
Speaker 1: forget it. I mean, this is one of those seasons
Speaker 1: where it could just snowball and earth well, because they
Speaker 1: talked about it as this is our last ditch effort
Speaker 1: to be a Super Bowl team, which doesn't even make
Speaker 1: sense at this point for them. Anyways, and you wonder
Speaker 1: about Arians next season, Palmer, you wonder them where he
Speaker 1: can be by mid season this the wheels could fall
Speaker 1: off the same. This is my my pick. A great
Speaker 1: one um for m v P this season was David John's.
Speaker 1: I mean that's conversation. Uh this guy is, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's he's like a We've only seen running backs like
Speaker 1: him come along every every couple of years. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: And he heard his wrist and then he went back
Speaker 1: in and then that's when I think he might have
Speaker 1: even heard it more when he fumbled the ball like
Speaker 1: it was already a problem. You have to be wondering
Speaker 1: what Bruce Arians thinking. A guy that you know probably
Speaker 1: is putting a lot into this team and believes that
Speaker 1: this is a team that can make a run, and
Speaker 1: now they are severely commir Superstars always get hurt. Palmer, Uh, Tyrone,
Speaker 1: Matthew and now David Johnson. They never have all of
Speaker 1: them together. More injury news, Just an update here on
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Cults. So we're just talking about Andrew luck
Speaker 1: is already confirmed out for a week two and now
Speaker 1: it's becoming more and more clear, which we kind of
Speaker 1: had an idea but this is something that's going to
Speaker 1: be going on potentially for some time. And do we
Speaker 1: have even is there a quarterback decision yet? How how
Speaker 1: is it being played with? Chas began, Well, we're talking
Speaker 1: about procet is a potential starter for for ready to
Speaker 1: be their quarterback. He just got that, could you be
Speaker 1: any less ready than the current starters? They won't announce
Speaker 1: it yet. Maybe by the time people hear this, it'll come,
Speaker 1: they said. He certainly doesn't know the playbook entirely, but
Speaker 1: even then, maybe it's worth playing him. And I think
Speaker 1: you have to put when's the over under on luck
Speaker 1: getting back? I mean, at the earliest it is probably
Speaker 1: week four according to which is I rapport right, that's
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football and NBC, Like it's gonna be
Speaker 1: some time. Plus it doesn't help that they don't have
Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly their center, so the offensive line is already
Speaker 1: sort of like everyone killing and I get it. Uh.
Speaker 1: He had a couple of pick sixes, but like that
Speaker 1: play that was one of the pick six is a
Speaker 1: great example. It was a terrible snap because you had
Speaker 1: a new center. It's a timing throw. He like picks
Speaker 1: it up. He's late on the throw and it gets
Speaker 1: picked off. Um. Finally, in the news, Thomas Rawls, the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks running back who missed a week one with
Speaker 1: an ankle injury, should return on Sunday against the forty Niners.
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll via the team's official website, said, yes, we
Speaker 1: do expect Thomas back. He should be raring to go.
Speaker 1: This is uh, this is a good news. Mark they
Speaker 1: running game, you know you can get it. Get excited
Speaker 1: about Chris Carson. I didn't think he was moving that well.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that into Chris Carton Carson other than the
Speaker 1: one thirty yard run. Eddie Lacey doesn't look like he's
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey anymore. So they kind of need Thomas Rawles.
Speaker 1: But you don't even know what is he the guy
Speaker 1: that that broke out a couple of years ago. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, Rawls finished the season last year as a
Speaker 1: dynamic player. I thought it was explosive and he looks
Speaker 1: like a starter. And you're right, I mean, I think Carson.
Speaker 1: Give the Seahawks credit. It seems like every season they
Speaker 1: have found some rookie running back that's going to play
Speaker 1: a much bigger role than you'd expect. Maybe that will
Speaker 1: be Carson down the stretch, but Rolls raw rawles me
Speaker 1: for me, removes Eddie Lacey as a as a starting option.
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey did not look Eddie Lacey looked awful. He
Speaker 1: had three three yards rushing on five carries. I mean,
Speaker 1: Mike Daniels just completely demolished him. It's telling that in
Speaker 1: his first game in Seattle, Chris Carson was the one
Speaker 1: on the field in a huge game for the vast
Speaker 1: majority of the second half. Like, hey, we need to
Speaker 1: win this game. Who gives us our best chance? How
Speaker 1: about the seventh round rookie who's never playing an NFL
Speaker 1: game while Eddie Lacey's on the bed. After months of questioning,
Speaker 1: how will this shake out, It's like, no, it's not
Speaker 1: going to be the way you predicted at all. I
Speaker 1: all um, august I was excited about the Seattle offense.
Speaker 1: I still am. I don't put too much into that
Speaker 1: Week one loss, but they do need to establish a
Speaker 1: running game to keep keep defenses honest. And Rawls's a
Speaker 1: key figure there. That's what's happening in the news. Oh
Speaker 1: you know, time it is, guys, what time is it?
Speaker 1: It's time to get on those shoulders a greatness presented
Speaker 1: by head and shoulders. Oh, how do we get on
Speaker 1: the shoulders? Can you help us up? I don't know
Speaker 1: quite happening. Can carry Colleen and I around? I feel
Speaker 1: like maybe you're pretty strong. I can I'll just walk.
Speaker 1: Apparently you're kind of in between. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you can carry us, but and I don't know if
Speaker 1: you can dan shoulders of the shoulders of greatness that's
Speaker 1: going on here. No, I thought so many things, and
Speaker 1: the potentially dispute I thought I was carrying And maybe
Speaker 1: this just shows how humble I am. I thought I
Speaker 1: was carrying Colleen and Greg to the giants shoulders. This
Speaker 1: is a giant we're talking about, right, Yeah, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: scale this massive figure myself while you You get there
Speaker 1: on your own. Always a tell tale sign up on
Speaker 1: your own, we can't tell tale sign up. Someone that's
Speaker 1: humble is someone that points out this is how humble
Speaker 1: I am. Stand up the humble. Um. Okay, so here
Speaker 1: we go a lot of great shoulders in week one.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw out four names, um with a
Speaker 1: quick you know, a quick info about what kind of
Speaker 1: performance they had in week one. I want you guys
Speaker 1: to pick who you thought had the greatest shoulders in
Speaker 1: Week one? Yiks Uh, here we go. T J. Watt
Speaker 1: the third player with two sacks and an interception his
Speaker 1: first NFL game. Calais Campbell. Wow, four sacks, setting a
Speaker 1: franchise record in his first game with Jacksonville. Kareem Hunt.
Speaker 1: What else do you need to say? Two fifty yards? Uh?
Speaker 1: Two touchdowns against the Patriots and Maddie Stafford. How about that?
Speaker 1: He's not my favorite stat twenty ninth career fourth quarter comeback.
Speaker 1: But uh, you're not building leads. But yeah, exactly, but
Speaker 1: he did throw four touchdowns and lead the lines to
Speaker 1: win over the Cardinals. Real quick, mark around the horn.
Speaker 1: Who had the greatest shoulders in Week one? How could
Speaker 1: it not be Kareem Hunt? After what we saw, I'd
Speaker 1: have to be literally kicked off the show for the
Speaker 1: next twelve months if I pick anyone else. Kareem Hunt
Speaker 1: was awesome, especially after having that first carry. It was
Speaker 1: a fumble and you saw how upset he was on
Speaker 1: the sideline. It was almost like they were trying to
Speaker 1: console him and talk him off the ledge, and then
Speaker 1: he just went back out there and totally did his thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta give some of the shoulder love
Speaker 1: then to the offensive line because he had some. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's crazy to go with someone else. Class
Speaker 1: Campbell literally set the franchise sack record in the first
Speaker 1: half of his first game with the franchise as a huge.
Speaker 1: So that's that's my shoulders I want to stand on. Plus,
Speaker 1: he's I think he's six eight, he's strong, he's six eight.
Speaker 1: You're getting Kareem Hunt. You're like a foot down from
Speaker 1: class Campbell's show. I mean, if someone wants for two
Speaker 1: hundred plus yards on the Patriots next week, could they
Speaker 1: possibly win this award and your quick shoulders, Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got nice shoulders. I don't. I mean, you're a foot
Speaker 1: higher if you're can't. It's nice to discuss Campbell, but
Speaker 1: how how on earth this Hunt not win? This tamposey
Speaker 1: obviously obviously cream Hunt, right, that came close to hitting
Speaker 1: my I was a little nervous paper cut across the
Speaker 1: face that could have taken out both your eyes and
Speaker 1: a word human giants at that point. Hideous scenario that
Speaker 1: was shoulders of greatness presented by head and shoulders. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it really got to the bottom of that guy's and
Speaker 1: resurface again next Tuesday. All right, okay, all right, what
Speaker 1: are we talking about? What are we doing Thursday night football?
Speaker 1: You want to talk about Thursday because, as you guys know,
Speaker 1: just minutes ago, I was unaware of what the matchup was. Um,
Speaker 1: and now I am going to jog my memory Texans
Speaker 1: in the Bengals matchup and think about it, think about
Speaker 1: who needs us win more. Let's start early in the
Speaker 1: season to be cynical about any match. No, I won't
Speaker 1: be cynical. I will spin it as this is a
Speaker 1: tough situation for ball teams in terms of their Week
Speaker 1: one performances. The Texans, who have all sorts of quarterback situations.
Speaker 1: Again again Bill O'Brien in the middle of it. You
Speaker 1: think that home game after the hurricane, they would have won,
Speaker 1: but the quarterback couldn't play and they ended up losing easily.
Speaker 1: That Cincinnati Mark, Oh my god, the Cincinnati gets shut
Speaker 1: out at home by a division arrival. It just very
Speaker 1: rarely happens unless there's some type of extenuating circumstances, which
Speaker 1: there were not. Uh So, who do you who do
Speaker 1: you think? Let's start this way, which team had a
Speaker 1: more troubling loss to you. And let's start there. Well,
Speaker 1: I think the Texans, you have to take into account
Speaker 1: everything that people were going through personally, and it was assumed.
Speaker 1: I thought, there's this one scenario where the Texans come
Speaker 1: storming out with all this emotion and just drop a
Speaker 1: bomb on whoever they're playing week one. Instead, I think
Speaker 1: it went the other way and I would give them
Speaker 1: a better chance to bounce back. Potentially. The Bengals, to me,
Speaker 1: have core issues on their offensive line. This guy Cedric
Speaker 1: Away was absolutely victimized. Did you get and listened to
Speaker 1: the telecast to make sure was was taken to town
Speaker 1: by Terrell Sugs? I mean, it was absolutely taken to town.
Speaker 1: And it just as if we're gonna talk about he's
Speaker 1: got to play Watton Clown exactly. It gets no better.
Speaker 1: And and Andy Dalton, yes, you can say Andy Dalton
Speaker 1: with all the interceptions. It's just like a few other
Speaker 1: quarterbacks we talked about on this episode. Andy Dalton's some
Speaker 1: of his mistakes go right back to the fact that
Speaker 1: he had people in his face. Like instance, after the
Speaker 1: ball is snapped, you can't operate as a quarterback, and
Speaker 1: that's in that space they lost Andrew Whitworth and Kevin
Speaker 1: Zeitler in the off season, and they really didn't do
Speaker 1: anything to help fill that void. They had young players
Speaker 1: that they chown on. That's that's what the Bengals do
Speaker 1: more than any team in the league. It's worked to
Speaker 1: a point it's not working right now. No, and and
Speaker 1: because of that, they couldn't run the ball. And also
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton had the game that he had and it's
Speaker 1: almost like he he looks like the Andy Dalton we
Speaker 1: saw in I guess what was I'd say very very
Speaker 1: similar teams. I think Houston has more to worry about
Speaker 1: because to me, the Bengals are a veteran team who
Speaker 1: are playing a really good defense that knows them and
Speaker 1: had a great game and there were some red zone things,
Speaker 1: whereas with Houston, you didn't see anything out of that offense. Uh,
Speaker 1: they had five concussions in the game. All those guys
Speaker 1: are gonna end this game. They were starting Bruce Ellington,
Speaker 1: who just joined the team at right wide receiver. He's
Speaker 1: one of the guys that get hurt. Like they're they're
Speaker 1: really thin throughout their offense. There's nothing about their offense
Speaker 1: that I can look to and be encouraged about that.
Speaker 1: Their offensive line, which I think was one of the
Speaker 1: worst going into the season, is now missing a couple
Speaker 1: more people on top of Dwayne Brown. Whereas you look
Speaker 1: at Cincinnati, it's like they have players. They have players
Speaker 1: I like on both sides of the ball, and I'm
Speaker 1: willing to give them somewhat of a pass for one
Speaker 1: bad game and see if they can crawl out of it.
Speaker 1: And that's what Bengals were actually in that Ravens game
Speaker 1: until third quarter. I mean, the score looks ter they
Speaker 1: just couldn't score war It was read that, you know
Speaker 1: once once they got over the in the red zone,
Speaker 1: they were terrible. Baltimore might have the best defense in
Speaker 1: the a F c Ops. I think Baltimore's defense looked great.
Speaker 1: I think it was a bad day for Cincinnati. So
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go and say that Baltimore are the
Speaker 1: five Bears and I'm not gonna say Cincinnati stinks because
Speaker 1: I think this the Bengals are gonna be in the
Speaker 1: mix this year and for that reason alone, I mean,
Speaker 1: having a second home game, I just find it hard
Speaker 1: to believe that they'll lay another egg. I think they'll
Speaker 1: play very well in fact, and I think this is
Speaker 1: a game that they're gonna be okay. And I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna look at Houston is oh and two, and
Speaker 1: I don't know what their quarterback situation is right now.
Speaker 1: I think Bill O'Brien's talking later today tuesdayson Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I expected to be DeShawn Watson, not officially, and Watson was.
Speaker 1: He threw a touchdown pass already, he was ahead of
Speaker 1: Tom Savage, but uh, he didn't do much else in
Speaker 1: the rest of that game either, So I don't I
Speaker 1: think the Texans are working progress because now they've done
Speaker 1: what probably they wanted to avoid, which is they have
Speaker 1: to get a kid ready to win games, and that
Speaker 1: might take a couple of weeks and it could cost
Speaker 1: some of their season. And DeShawn Watson he's going to
Speaker 1: have to face Gino Atkins, who I thought was one
Speaker 1: of the only bright spots. I think they get back
Speaker 1: um Adam Jones from suspension. I think Jalen Strong for
Speaker 1: the Texans is back. This is one of those games.
Speaker 1: I wrote on the debrief on Tuesday NFL dot Com
Speaker 1: slash Debrief how there were a higher percentage of teams
Speaker 1: under three hundred yards in Week one than there had
Speaker 1: been in a long long time, Like almost half the
Speaker 1: league was under three hundred yards. This more than any
Speaker 1: week for instance, all of last season, more than any
Speaker 1: Week one since two thousands. It was a defense heavy season.
Speaker 1: And I can just imagine Thursday night, this game playing
Speaker 1: out like that, two teams maybe under three hundred yards,
Speaker 1: and some some Carvetchian on Twitter about you know, not
Speaker 1: a high scoring game, right, Let's yeah, yeah, let's let's
Speaker 1: pick the game with the score Mark Bengals will win
Speaker 1: this game if they don't go to Green Bay next week.
Speaker 1: But in general, I think we overrate what happens in
Speaker 1: Week one. So much changes from there. And now I
Speaker 1: go Bengals twenty two, Texans eleven. I'm gonna go even
Speaker 1: interesting score. Well, you know, sometimes I find my scores
Speaker 1: because I go first. They create too much of a
Speaker 1: mimicry around the room at time. So I want to
Speaker 1: pick somebody that can't get picked except except by Greg. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Bengals, but it's going to be a
Speaker 1: low scoring affair. So nine seven who really? Really? I
Speaker 1: don't trust anybody. Yeah, Now, I I think Cincinnati gets
Speaker 1: back on track. I think Joe Mixon has a big game.
Speaker 1: Dandy Dalton actually throws two touchdowns to a j Green
Speaker 1: And guess what eleven? Twenty two to eleven is my
Speaker 1: now twenty seven to seven. Houston continues struggle. I would
Speaker 1: not be a barn. That would not be a good,
Speaker 1: uh game to watch? And I've got four John Ross
Speaker 1: might play in the not too far from eleven, Greg,
Speaker 1: not too far totally. It's pretty rare that And this
Speaker 1: is this is for Greg. Thursday Night football will air
Speaker 1: on NFL Network AM Eastern. It's the official. When do
Speaker 1: we start getting a little color rush action? I'll be in.
Speaker 1: It's a good question. They had it last year for
Speaker 1: a week to think maybe it's this week. I believe,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, that the color blind game occurred
Speaker 1: around this time, which is week fuddled Greg, while trying
Speaker 1: to cover the Bill's Jets correct, I was not Surean
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick had thrown an interception or a completion. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what was happening. Alright, So there you go the
Speaker 1: Thursday Night preview. How exciting? All right? We said earlier
Speaker 1: we don't usually have guests on the show, but when
Speaker 1: you have a star involved, Doug Baldwin for the Seattle Seahawks.
Speaker 1: We get him on the show. Doug is here on
Speaker 1: behalf of video. And let's be honest. You know video
Speaker 1: that's a good television when you go in the back
Speaker 1: of the store. I get the one on the cheaper end,
Speaker 1: and he saved a few under bucks Dougs with visios
Speaker 1: right off the bat Dougs, Doug, Yeah, I do, and
Speaker 1: Mr Baldwin, I'm doing well. So to help you out
Speaker 1: with that, Yeah, you can go to video dot com
Speaker 1: slash Big Place this year and in it for your
Speaker 1: chance to win a m cast smart series, TV M series.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, M serious, smart cast fifty TV UM. Any
Speaker 1: play that goes forty yards and more than ends in
Speaker 1: a touchdown, A lucky fans gonna win a TV Can
Speaker 1: you affect the rathlet all in our favor so that
Speaker 1: one of the four of us would come away with
Speaker 1: the technology? UM? I don't know. There was a young
Speaker 1: lady earlier that said something about my jacket sacket Colleen,
Speaker 1: What what did you say about his jacket color? It
Speaker 1: looks comfortable, looks like it's a soft material, like a
Speaker 1: like a sweater type material that's not a thing. It's
Speaker 1: a thing now, Greg, Colleen as Doug, forgive Colleen. She
Speaker 1: makes things weird. All right, Let's let's talk a little
Speaker 1: bit here that's inappropriate. Yeah, a little bit, A little bit, um,
Speaker 1: I want to start. Okay, you know week one in
Speaker 1: the rear view mirror for the Seattle Seahawks. I'm just
Speaker 1: curious though, with with the game of that magnitude the
Speaker 1: Packers Seahawks. You know, you could say their biggest rival.
Speaker 1: It could have huge playoff ramifications ultimately with a tiebreaker
Speaker 1: downline who hosts the game of the playoffs. I know
Speaker 1: you don't look ahead that way, but as football fans,
Speaker 1: you do do you kind of wish a game of
Speaker 1: of that importance is a little deeper into the season
Speaker 1: than right there bang week one. No, actually, I don't. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we started off with them that early
Speaker 1: because it gave us the ability to test who we
Speaker 1: are as a as a football team. And uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it may come down to later in the season that
Speaker 1: we have to see them again in the playoffs, but
Speaker 1: we would look forward to that. You know, again, it's
Speaker 1: a great opportunity to go up against a great, great team.
Speaker 1: Hopefully people will be watching that game us in the
Speaker 1: playoffs on their M series smart Cast TV. That's how
Speaker 1: you do it. That's how the Seahawks and the Packers.
Speaker 1: It seems like they're in the divisional round every year,
Speaker 1: uh nearly. They're often playing at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking back to like when you started facing
Speaker 1: off against the Packers and when you were starting your
Speaker 1: career with the Seahawks, you're an undrafted rookie who signs
Speaker 1: a three year deal. Then now here we are six
Speaker 1: seven years later and kind of you and Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: are the guys on the Seahawks offense. When I think
Speaker 1: about the Seahawks offense in terms of guys who have
Speaker 1: been there a year after year and are going to
Speaker 1: be there for a long time, Like, can you reflect
Speaker 1: on on your journey to that role and does it
Speaker 1: mean a lot to you that you and Russell are
Speaker 1: kind of like the two main guys on the offense.
Speaker 1: Really honest with you, I don't think about it at all.
Speaker 1: And the reason being is because we have a task
Speaker 1: in front of us that we have to give all
Speaker 1: of all of our attention and focus to um and
Speaker 1: so I don't think about that. I appreciate you saying that.
Speaker 1: It's very kind of you. Um, but uh, I don't
Speaker 1: think about that at all. We have a task before us.
Speaker 1: We've got many games that were anticipating and aiming to win.
Speaker 1: So um, sorry, don't don't think about it. We got,
Speaker 1: we got, We've got this game coming up. That then
Speaker 1: that's all I'm focused on. But do you do you
Speaker 1: feel like you have a different role I guess on
Speaker 1: the team, like having been through that, Like, do you
Speaker 1: consciously feel like, Okay, now you're at a different part
Speaker 1: of your career than than you were earlier, and that
Speaker 1: brings with it different responsibilities. You know, absolutely, First and foremost,
Speaker 1: my body is telling me that this is my seventh
Speaker 1: year in the NFL. But secondly, obviously the young guys
Speaker 1: that come in, they look to me to to rustle
Speaker 1: to the older guys for advice, you know, specifically, you
Speaker 1: know in our receiver's room, about how to take care
Speaker 1: of your body, about how to mentally prepare for the
Speaker 1: game's coming up. And so yeah, I do see that.
Speaker 1: I do feel that. But you know, typically when I'm
Speaker 1: out there on the football field trying to perform for
Speaker 1: the best of my ability. I'm still that rookie that's
Speaker 1: coming in just trying to to uh to prove myself
Speaker 1: right again. You know, you've been with Pete Carroll from
Speaker 1: the very beginning in Seattle. Do you how much time
Speaker 1: at this point in your career would you say that
Speaker 1: you get one on one time with Pete Carroll? Do
Speaker 1: you guys ever go out and like get a burrito together,
Speaker 1: maybe talk on the phone about life. I mean, people,
Speaker 1: you just assume that the coaches there every day. What's
Speaker 1: sort of interaction You guys have known each other for
Speaker 1: well over half a decade. How personal can it get?
Speaker 1: How claritycy Pete? Not Pete and I go way back.
Speaker 1: You know we uh we'll go out for occasional drinks,
Speaker 1: you know, so Martinellie's apple cider um. You know, we'll
Speaker 1: get fitted for our swackets. Occasionally. We do a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff together. Not honestly, we get a lot of
Speaker 1: one on one time here in the facility right at
Speaker 1: practice in the meetings, we do have a number of
Speaker 1: conversations where it's just one on one and Pete does
Speaker 1: a great job of doing that with the guys, making
Speaker 1: sure that uh, you know, he gets the pulse of
Speaker 1: our team. Um, and so he does that a lot.
Speaker 1: And uh no, I don't see him that much outside
Speaker 1: of the facility. He's got his family. I got my family,
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, I don't want to see him after
Speaker 1: I've already seen him twelve dollars out of the day. Hey,
Speaker 1: if you if you want to have a TV and
Speaker 1: be a real human being, you get a video. But
Speaker 1: also if you want to have real serial, right, Colleen,
Speaker 1: there's something else cooking here. Here's the thing. I was
Speaker 1: going to ask Dog about his cold action with Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson after leading the team and receiving yards yesterday, But
Speaker 1: then I saw you have your own cereal. How much
Speaker 1: input did you have into the name of the cereal,
Speaker 1: the type of cereal, the design on the cereal box.
Speaker 1: It's a handsome looking box. I appreciate that, but all
Speaker 1: the input and if I put my name on something,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be very hands on with it. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I had had a lot of say in it. That's Cereal.
Speaker 1: It's very similar to a cereal that I grew up
Speaker 1: on that I loved growing up. So, you know, being
Speaker 1: fortunate enough to have a cereal that I that I
Speaker 1: love you know, and with my name and my face
Speaker 1: on it, it's pretty cool. What was that cereal that
Speaker 1: you loved growing up? I know it's gotta be Honey smacks, right,
Speaker 1: h Baldwin smacks right, right, right, got it, totally got it.
Speaker 1: Baldwin smacks only Baldwin snacks. You're completely in the clear.
Speaker 1: How about the idea. There's some critics out there, Doug.
Speaker 1: That's say, the image on the box, you have no helmet.
Speaker 1: On some level, you're delivering a stiff arm that maybe
Speaker 1: the ref would blow the play dead. You're not wearing
Speaker 1: a helmet. Let's talk about that. Yeah, I've I've heard
Speaker 1: that argument. Um, However, anybody who makes that that that statement,
Speaker 1: I can counter that argument with, it's a cereal box,
Speaker 1: it's a commercial, it's a cartoon. Just eat the damn cereal.
Speaker 1: Seems fair. That's that's perfect. That's very all right, Doug.
Speaker 1: So yeah, what are you doing? We've heard a little bit,
Speaker 1: but we can't get enough of it. What are you
Speaker 1: doing for video? Big screens for big plays? So this
Speaker 1: football season, video is going big. Every time a play
Speaker 1: of forty yards and more results in a touchdown, video
Speaker 1: is going to give a lucky fan a big screen
Speaker 1: TV and M series smart cast display to be exact,
Speaker 1: very easy for for fans to go in in the
Speaker 1: chance to win. You go to visio dot com, slash
Speaker 1: big plays, type in your information and uh and go
Speaker 1: win yourself a TV dan you could maybe win it.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I forget the fans. I want
Speaker 1: to win. Yeah, I could too. Oh that's awesome. That
Speaker 1: would feel the books that feel a little cooked there,
Speaker 1: But it's a status of all right. The Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 1: host the San Francisco forty Niners in week two. Doug,
Speaker 1: all done, good luck and stay healthy and uh, congratulations
Speaker 1: on your televisions and your cereals and your swackets. Thank
Speaker 1: you guys, appreciate it. There you go, Thank you to
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin. And speaking of Doug Baldwin and the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: that takes us to our final little topic of today's show.
Speaker 1: We call it oh and one oh No. I don't
Speaker 1: know if the am I hitting the pronunciation correctly there,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Okay, zero and one oh No, that's better.
Speaker 1: That's much better. We worked chopped this for hours yesterday
Speaker 1: and this is what we came up with which is concerning.
Speaker 1: But I'm not sure that's the promunciation for his you know,
Speaker 1: nice pipes. Uh never heard it in that pitch before
Speaker 1: I go up there. Carry action the other thing it
Speaker 1: could be. And this is why it's understood. To understand
Speaker 1: the segment, it's all about the punctuation, because it's not
Speaker 1: oh and one, Oh no, we're asking Yeah, the reflection
Speaker 1: goes up. All right, We're gonna go through four teams
Speaker 1: that are and one, and we'll start with you, Connie Fox.
Speaker 1: Since we just talked with Doug Baldwin about the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: are the Seahawks in trouble in your mind? At oh
Speaker 1: and one? Oh no? So I'm really worried about that
Speaker 1: offensive line. Their defense is great and they were in
Speaker 1: Rogers's face all day, but that offensive line was a
Speaker 1: problem last year and it's still a problem right now.
Speaker 1: If Russell Wilson wasn't the mobile quarterback that he is,
Speaker 1: he would have been sacked twice as many times. At
Speaker 1: least they couldn't run the ball. Eddie Lacey looked terrible,
Speaker 1: had three yards. But I think that the fact that
Speaker 1: they struggle on the road against the Packers usually and
Speaker 1: it was a tough matchup for them. I still have
Speaker 1: a little bit of faith that it's not you know,
Speaker 1: it's not terrible, but I'm worried. It's not completely Oh no,
Speaker 1: but I'm worried about Yeah, I'm not at all. This
Speaker 1: is my Super Bowl team. I'm not worried at all.
Speaker 1: That online doesn't bother you. They listen, that was a
Speaker 1: tough matchup on the road. Uh, and they hung up.
Speaker 1: They hung around. The offensive line maybe could have been better,
Speaker 1: but they were missing their starting running back. And I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna be fine. I think they're gonna be
Speaker 1: fine to the tune of twelve and four and I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get on track immediately here. So no, uh,
Speaker 1: they'll figure it out. It helps. I'm not worried at all.
Speaker 1: It helps. Today the Arizona Cardinals at this point could
Speaker 1: be in deep trouble. And Seattle is one of these
Speaker 1: teams we mentioned on Sunday that it's just too many
Speaker 1: of the same people in place for me not to
Speaker 1: trust that they'll figure out a way. They have They've
Speaker 1: had an offensive line troubles in the past. They look
Speaker 1: Uh that Lix looks chronic right now here. Here's the thing,
Speaker 1: though they have a left tackle they weren't planning to
Speaker 1: play at left tackle, who had it really tough to
Speaker 1: not look like a left And they have Luke Joco
Speaker 1: at left guard, who you know, when they signed him,
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll thought he said he was one of the
Speaker 1: best guards in the league last year, you know, and
Speaker 1: I trust our coaching to make him one of And
Speaker 1: it's like, what, like, what what do you talking about?
Speaker 1: And that's w like, oh no, slammer, that's a slammer.
Speaker 1: Oh no, is that an exclamation? Oh no? The Super
Speaker 1: Bowl champion pick? All right? So yeah, there you going.
Speaker 1: All right? So you Connie, you're kind of it's a
Speaker 1: bit of a hero pick for I'm a little I'm
Speaker 1: a little worried. They had a couple of bad calls
Speaker 1: go against them. Well, you're getting on in front of this.
Speaker 1: If they collapse, we'll point back to when you nailed this.
Speaker 1: Uh Mark, Let's talk about the Washington Redskins sloppy game
Speaker 1: against the Eagles at home in their opener, and now
Speaker 1: they're trying to get it back together in week two.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm pretty more like, oh no, I'm a
Speaker 1: little concerned about this team. Channels back to the preseason.
Speaker 1: I don't you know, It's like it's constant shots down
Speaker 1: the field by Kirk Cousins. This seems to be the
Speaker 1: entire offense. There's no sustaining running game. The defense is
Speaker 1: ho hum again. And look at this schedule. This would
Speaker 1: have been an easy one in your passed going into
Speaker 1: Los Angeles this week to face the Rams. Not sure
Speaker 1: about that right now. Then you have the Raiders and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Then you have a bye week, better take
Speaker 1: a vacation, then you come back. I get that. Eagles, Cowboys, Seahawks, Vikings, Saints, Giants, Cowboys,
Speaker 1: Chargers and if rough scenario NFC, what East Rather schedule
Speaker 1: is tough because they're out of division. Games are for
Speaker 1: the most partifical. Are they in l A this week?
Speaker 1: In l A? That is a really interesting game. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if I'm worried about the Redskins yet. I
Speaker 1: kind of want to. I want to see a little more.
Speaker 1: I'm not I didn't think they were gonna be great
Speaker 1: to begin with, but I don't know if they're gonna
Speaker 1: be a team that's out of the mix. This is
Speaker 1: This is a really fascinating matchup this week because the
Speaker 1: Rams have a lot of the same great things that
Speaker 1: the Eagles have upfront, and you would think could could
Speaker 1: expose you're running out of time to gel if you're Washington,
Speaker 1: He's gonna gonna be back. They had a really good
Speaker 1: offensive line last year. They struggled in the preseason, and
Speaker 1: they struggled in Week one, so that's something they're definitely
Speaker 1: concerned that. Um, that was good, Mark, I think I
Speaker 1: didn't get a good that was good. Well, I didn't
Speaker 1: agree with but it's still the effort was definitely solid. Um.
Speaker 1: I think the Rams got two and O written all
Speaker 1: over him by the way, I'll see, but they kind
Speaker 1: of have the feel of like the team that's gonna
Speaker 1: get out to the hot start and surprise people. Uh.
Speaker 1: Next up is the New York Giants. I'll talk about
Speaker 1: the g men, and I'm gonna get I'm gonna hit
Speaker 1: you with a yeah, because you know I love my
Speaker 1: Super Bowl pick. Yeah, you know I love Eli Um
Speaker 1: and Uh, I certain I thought it was a little
Speaker 1: troubling what we saw on Sunday night, and I get it.
Speaker 1: Beckham will be back. But is Beckham gonna hit the
Speaker 1: ground running once he gets back, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: even playing a week two. We don't even know that
Speaker 1: for sure, although indications are that he will make his
Speaker 1: season debut. I just thought, if you're a Giants fan,
Speaker 1: that game gave you nothing to alleviate any concerns that
Speaker 1: you had last year about your offense, which, as we
Speaker 1: said on Sunday, is not scored more than twenty points
Speaker 1: in seven straight games. Uh that Eli, you know, looked
Speaker 1: a little um, frankly, just looked ineffective, looked a little lost.
Speaker 1: The offensive line overmatched, the running game just nothing going
Speaker 1: on there? Um? And does that all get better when
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham's back in the lineup, and and does Brandon
Speaker 1: Marshall feel more like himself and Sterling Shepard finds his footing? Maybe?
Speaker 1: But yeah, because it didn't get better for their offense
Speaker 1: last year when Beckham was on the field half the time.
Speaker 1: I just don't see them as a very diverse offense.
Speaker 1: And they did literally nothing in the off season to
Speaker 1: fix it. And what did the Super Bowl? I here's
Speaker 1: my problem. I did that in August and they were
Speaker 1: part they were I was convinced of the Charger side
Speaker 1: of it, and I saw the Giants and I'm not
Speaker 1: I said this even in my initial tweet. It was
Speaker 1: sort of a vision. Well, that was a vision that
Speaker 1: I'm very concerned about. I'm very concerned about the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: super Bowls. Well, hold on fast with the number one seed.
Speaker 1: Though they were at the number one seed in the NFC,
Speaker 1: it was one week. And if thing we like about
Speaker 1: them is their defense, so their defense can off defense.
Speaker 1: Jenkins did a great job again on des so I'm
Speaker 1: not worried. I didn't bring up the defense because I'm
Speaker 1: not worried about the defense. And perhaps they can win
Speaker 1: games like the Ravens did for instance last week. But
Speaker 1: I you see like three NFC teams like it would
Speaker 1: be like ten and six, nine and seven, eight and eight,
Speaker 1: six and ten, like they're all going to be clumped
Speaker 1: together and kind of eating. I think Cowboys fans will
Speaker 1: would say, what what more do we gotta do to
Speaker 1: have some belief in us? We just had a great
Speaker 1: defensive performance and best offense in the league last year. Well,
Speaker 1: they're not on this list, I know he was saying there.
Speaker 1: I think I think six they could be as good
Speaker 1: as a team as they were last year. To some degree,
Speaker 1: everything kind of went right to them. Ten and six.
Speaker 1: When I'm looking again at each of these schedules, with
Speaker 1: these teams in this NFC East Division, it is a
Speaker 1: murderous road. There's no break. The correct answer eight and
Speaker 1: eight Cowboys, That's that's where you're going. I'm still with it.
Speaker 1: I'm still I'm not giving up just because they beat
Speaker 1: O'Dell as Giants. Finally, Greg, oh boy, the Tennessee I
Speaker 1: call him the Titoons. That's not fair, all right, you
Speaker 1: call him the Titans. How do you pronounce it? Uh,
Speaker 1: not the name, but the expression oh and one? Oh no,
Speaker 1: I don't even know. How do you say it if
Speaker 1: you're not worried? Like, how about oh hell no? Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh hell no, I'm not worried about it. That's cheating
Speaker 1: to stay within the structure of oh no. How can
Speaker 1: you say oh no but not be worried at all.
Speaker 1: That's for you to figure out right now. That's good,
Speaker 1: a good young team who got beaten in the key
Speaker 1: moments of that game. The Raiders were a better team,
Speaker 1: but I think the Titans are young. I'm a little
Speaker 1: worried about their offensive line. I like the Redskins played
Speaker 1: very well last year, had a poor preseason. Jack Conklin
Speaker 1: has not looked great, did not look great in this game.
Speaker 1: That's that's a little bit of a problem. But overall,
Speaker 1: I think they just got beat by a team that
Speaker 1: is read the and willing to be one of the
Speaker 1: teams in the a f C. And I think that
Speaker 1: Titans are gonna be a good team. That's a that's
Speaker 1: an acceptable loss, and I didn't see anything in that
Speaker 1: game that made that changed my mind about you know,
Speaker 1: we kill on the show the Chiefs and they're boring
Speaker 1: and everything. I'm watching this game yesterday and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, we get on the Chiefs are having conservative offense.
Speaker 1: That doesn't get you excited. But what am I supposed
Speaker 1: to be excited about the Chiefs? Had the Chiefs looked
Speaker 1: like Chiefs of years past and gotten banged in New England,
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that. Well, I think Week one
Speaker 1: changes a lot about the exciting general idea of a
Speaker 1: team that's a little dink and duncan. Corey Davis made
Speaker 1: some plays, but I was I was frankly bored watching
Speaker 1: this team. On offense, Marcus Mariotta does things that no
Speaker 1: other quarterback in the league can do. Right now. He
Speaker 1: made some great throws over the middle. Struggle also got
Speaker 1: outplayed extremely. I think the team has a way to
Speaker 1: get but outside of Aaron Rodgers, maybe Marcus Mariota does
Speaker 1: some stuff that I don't see from any other quarterback
Speaker 1: in the league. That is a starting point. I'm great
Speaker 1: runs in that game. I think They're running game is
Speaker 1: one of the reasons they're fun to watch, and it
Speaker 1: didn't look good against what's supposed to be a not
Speaker 1: very good Raiders defense. So that's something I think you'd
Speaker 1: have to be a little concerned if you're the Titans,
Speaker 1: They're they're counting on that running game to really carry them.
Speaker 1: It's your point in Tennessee has not arrived if that's
Speaker 1: what you're looking for after all the you know, not
Speaker 1: April through August Putts. I'm not trying to like camera
Speaker 1: home and narrative. It was more just the ideas I'm watching.
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's a lot of like six yard passes
Speaker 1: and you know, dak and dunk stuff, and it was
Speaker 1: expecting maybe a little bit more at this, but we
Speaker 1: did here before the game on Sunday that Marcus Mariota
Speaker 1: maybe not is he might not yet. Still, yeah, he
Speaker 1: ran well he looked yet kind of an overlooked factor
Speaker 1: in that game. Those two guys went out for the
Speaker 1: season on the same day in Week sixteen, and here
Speaker 1: they are looking rather good in week one. Now you
Speaker 1: just take it for granted in summation. Oh no, summations,
Speaker 1: Mark yours for the Redskins. Oh no, Colleen for the Seahawks,
Speaker 1: Zeuser for the Giants, and Greg for the Titans. No,
Speaker 1: that's not that's cheating. Yeah, it's got to be the
Speaker 1: Oh oh no, okay, how quickly will this segment return?
Speaker 1: We will be back. We will return Mark, how about
Speaker 1: that on Thursday night? Uh, that's when you're next year.
Speaker 1: We will recap this game that we just previewed and
Speaker 1: then get into all the rest of the week two
Speaker 1: games every team in the league is playing, so that
Speaker 1: will be fun to uh dig in on. And thank
Speaker 1: you to Doug Baldwin for joining us today. That was nice.
Speaker 1: And thank you to Colleen for working us into her schedule. Oh,
Speaker 1: come on, it was nice. It was nice for you
Speaker 1: to do it. What do you mean, I do it
Speaker 1: every week? It go start go start working on the
Speaker 1: shows that actually pay your bills. I don't stop it. Okay,
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