Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast can afford avocado toast and
Speaker 1: a house. Welcome back to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas, and I'm
Speaker 1: joined by Room Filled the heroes, Mark Sessler, Colleen Wolf,
Speaker 1: and Gregg Rose with all what's up people? Hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: Not a single person attached to this show is ever
Speaker 1: owned a house in Los Angeles or ever. Will we
Speaker 1: live in the house or I do? Yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: we all do. Rent is not really, it's not affording
Speaker 1: a house, that's renting space. This we could not be
Speaker 1: further from owning. Yeah, I ask our wives and husbands
Speaker 1: and other various figures if we're owning property. This is
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast, presented of course by Head and
Speaker 1: Shoulders and uh, special day because it's Mark Sessler's birthday. Birthday.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that keeping it out what a
Speaker 1: genuine reaction from college. We've lost, we've lost the ability
Speaker 1: to that. I wish I had like a cake or
Speaker 1: a cupcake or do you know you're good? You're good?
Speaker 1: We're good. I mean, as you mentioned, Dan, a lot
Speaker 1: of pop for a forty three year old man's Birthdayeah,
Speaker 1: I'm forty four, Greg, But thank you. Before we passed
Speaker 1: past somebody in the hallway and I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I heard it your birthday and Marks like, yeah, nailed it.
Speaker 1: But he got plans here, big day. You got a
Speaker 1: day off tomorrow. What are you gonna do? I really
Speaker 1: have I have not planned it how much at all
Speaker 1: to be I don't believe that that's something. No, I'm
Speaker 1: taking them all. But it's to do a lot of
Speaker 1: work stuff and not being interrupted by work other work things.
Speaker 1: Here's my check out the Instagram and Mark Sussler. Tomorrow,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm predicting six am shots of Los Angeles alleyways
Speaker 1: at dawn. That's why I want you drinking white wine
Speaker 1: and texting Greg this. Yeah, this feels like it's it
Speaker 1: will not be the case. It feels like a trip
Speaker 1: up the coast type of day. To trip up the coast.
Speaker 1: There's definitely some wine involved, maybe a hostile like that
Speaker 1: type of thing, that type assessler that's couch in the
Speaker 1: middle of a work week. My aspirations are low. We'll
Speaker 1: see what happens. Um all right, A lot to get
Speaker 1: to today. As you know, if you're a listener of
Speaker 1: our Tuesday showed is jam packed. Got Connie Fox with us,
Speaker 1: the tiny box they call her, and you have to
Speaker 1: be excited because so many things going on. Number One,
Speaker 1: we got to talk about Monday Night Football, a game
Speaker 1: that started out as a staker and turned into a
Speaker 1: nice saucy affair in Chicago between the Vikings and Bears. Also,
Speaker 1: we are going to take a look at some different
Speaker 1: players across the league that have struggled, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring out the def con uh meter and
Speaker 1: and and share uh express our level of concern for
Speaker 1: each of these prominent names. And yes, it is back
Speaker 1: for a third week. Against Greg's wishes, perhaps against society's wishes.
Speaker 1: It is on you, the listener, to end the sub
Speaker 1: Breddit super contest because it's back for a week three.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, but the opportunity to win two game
Speaker 1: tickets to any game in the country or in London.
Speaker 1: Is it only three but only the third show? Is
Speaker 1: that the third week? Usually you're in the season, you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it flew by, you know, like these shows, these shows
Speaker 1: have not flown feels like we've been doing it forever.
Speaker 1: It is something. Um it started out as a nice
Speaker 1: thing for the listeners. It's now turned into a nice
Speaker 1: thing for me to watch Greg's squirm. I mean, I
Speaker 1: will say one thing, I I love our listeners, but
Speaker 1: with each passing week, my confidence in their ability and
Speaker 1: the clutch is lessoned. This is a huge week for
Speaker 1: the listeners. Let's be on it's it's a small sample size,
Speaker 1: though I'm willing to make rash judgments off a small size,
Speaker 1: and the the knowledge and the ability to deliver has
Speaker 1: been very low. Put it this way, but put it
Speaker 1: this way, where this is week four, that means we're
Speaker 1: O for nine. So that's that's the small sample size.
Speaker 1: But it's not that small. It's a stack of tomato kins,
Speaker 1: all right. So we'll see the loose Canda behind the glass.
Speaker 1: She she has three more contestants lined up for today
Speaker 1: and and um, best to luck to you guys, because
Speaker 1: we're honestly it's gonna be a lot of disappointment all
Speaker 1: around the horseshoe if if we don't have a winner today.
Speaker 1: No pressure so much to get to uh and also
Speaker 1: of course Thursday night preview as well. But let's start
Speaker 1: with that Monday night football game by Rubinsky goes out
Speaker 1: of the shotgun. The rookie from North Carolina takes the snap,
Speaker 1: looking over the center of the field, sees nothing, runs
Speaker 1: out to the right, passes by Harry Henny steps away
Speaker 1: from Trey McBride, Henny dodge down at the twenty nine
Speaker 1: Harry hit Man picked off Mitch Trubisky with too twenty
Speaker 1: to go in the game and the game's tied at seventeen.
Speaker 1: What who are we listening to? I believe it I
Speaker 1: be that's Paul Allen. I think I just know it's
Speaker 1: Paul Allen. Paul Alan with the call and the hit
Speaker 1: man is Harrison Smith, who had a big interception late
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of Mitch Robinski making his first
Speaker 1: NFL start that was converted into the game winning field goal,
Speaker 1: and the Bears uh come close, but they cannot topple
Speaker 1: the Vikings. Win for the Vikings over the Chicago Bears
Speaker 1: a game, a game greg where the Vikings lost. They're
Speaker 1: starting quarterback once again, who didn't look anything like himself
Speaker 1: before he was pulled, but case Keenum stepped in and
Speaker 1: along with Harrison Smith, saved the day. Yeah, the Mike
Speaker 1: Zimmer almost cost the Vikings a game here by starting
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford and leaving him in so long now we
Speaker 1: don't know what he saw in practice. It's not a
Speaker 1: crazy decision to want to get Bradford back out there
Speaker 1: if he's out there and he wants to play. But
Speaker 1: case Keenum is clearly a better quarterback than Bradford. And
Speaker 1: it really struck me watching this game that how much
Speaker 1: coaching and experience matters in the NFL. Because no one
Speaker 1: is surprised that case keen Um, a fifth year journeyman,
Speaker 1: easily outplayed the number two overall pick in the draft.
Speaker 1: That's just kind of how quarterbacking goes in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And Kingdom's playing very well this year, I'd have to ask.
Speaker 1: I think it opens the door in a very strange,
Speaker 1: almost neat fashion, at some point this season for Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater to reappear as Minnesota's quarterback. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: out there. It's possible. They say he looks like at
Speaker 1: some point even after Week seven, could be healthy enough
Speaker 1: to play. They're gonna be cautious with it. But to
Speaker 1: think how this Bradford thing has played out, how interesting
Speaker 1: that Bradford finally would open the door for Bridgewater to
Speaker 1: come back. I thought it was striking, and he's always
Speaker 1: kind of looked like this. But I remember thinking when
Speaker 1: Bradford took the field, he just looked frail, He looked skinny,
Speaker 1: he didn't seem to be he didn't look like a
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. Then when when he started moving, and I
Speaker 1: think it makes Jared Golf look bulky. He even, yeah,
Speaker 1: he even stayed in the game longer than he should have.
Speaker 1: I mean that the last time after they got the
Speaker 1: fumble deep in Chicago territory and he took that sack
Speaker 1: where he was clearly it looked like Joe Namath the
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six. I mean, he looked that fragile and
Speaker 1: a guy that shouldn't have been anywhere near the field
Speaker 1: at that point. So credit to Keenum and I yeah,
Speaker 1: Zimmer didn't do a good job with this. I was struck,
Speaker 1: Colleen by John Fox. Oh my god, we killed John here,
Speaker 1: and rightfully so for the most part, and he's on
Speaker 1: the hot seat and we all know that. But he
Speaker 1: did some things that kept his team in the game.
Speaker 1: I loved it. First of all, he was so animated
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. Don't when when he jumped up, it
Speaker 1: was almost like he got so much air. I don't
Speaker 1: know what his vertical is, but I had no idea
Speaker 1: he had that in him. Also, the fake punt, I
Speaker 1: mean that was I think the first time that they
Speaker 1: threw for like over thirty yards. What a patient, beautiful
Speaker 1: throw that was. That was amazing. And then the two
Speaker 1: point conversion that that played a lot design was so
Speaker 1: much fun to watch. Yeah, and I wouldn't credit John
Speaker 1: credit for green lighting on set to doing it, but
Speaker 1: Della Loggins, who has been an up and down coordinator
Speaker 1: to say the least, dating back to his time with
Speaker 1: the Titans. With the Browns, there was always elements of
Speaker 1: very strange trickery. They often did not work. The extra
Speaker 1: point last night or the two point conversion obviously blew
Speaker 1: up on Twitter. It was a fascinating place called John
Speaker 1: Fox to not draw that up on his bedside. Nope,
Speaker 1: notebook though now that will log into is at Arkansas
Speaker 1: when they had Felix Jones and Darren McFadden and had
Speaker 1: a crazy running attack like he likes using that sort
Speaker 1: of attack and that that's what you need when you
Speaker 1: don't have any receivers. And we haven't really talked about Trabinsky,
Speaker 1: who showed some really good things early in the game
Speaker 1: in terms of accuracy, and he can throw on the
Speaker 1: move and that's that's great, But penalties and drops and
Speaker 1: we're giving logging some credit, but let's be honest. They
Speaker 1: scored seven points on offense. Oh yeah. I mean, if
Speaker 1: Mike Glennon scored seven points on offense and for a
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty yards, you probably get killed. But I
Speaker 1: think if you watched the game, you didn't really feel
Speaker 1: that way about you know, and that's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a very solid defense that knows the Bears well in
Speaker 1: the Minnesota. But I will say this that you you
Speaker 1: wanted to come out of this as a Bears fan
Speaker 1: that has failed to draft or groom a quarterback for
Speaker 1: so long, to see some of the same traits you
Speaker 1: saw in August, and you did. It was it was
Speaker 1: he was getting crushed by his wide receivers. He's getting
Speaker 1: He's one of these quarterbacks. It reminds me of to
Speaker 1: Shaun Kaiser and others. No help around you, You're alone
Speaker 1: as the quarterback. But he did a lot of good things.
Speaker 1: Offense was crushing him. And then Everson Griffin was amazing
Speaker 1: in this game that defensive Vikings defense played so well.
Speaker 1: We mentioned Harrison Smith at the beginning of the show,
Speaker 1: and then Xavier Rhodes. He wasn't even targeted the entire
Speaker 1: game for the first time in his whole career. They
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys playing at their highest levels
Speaker 1: right now. Griffin is playing better than he ever has.
Speaker 1: Daniel Hunters played really well the last few weeks bar starting.
Speaker 1: By the way, wasn't that weird that John Gruden kept
Speaker 1: talking about how much he wanted to look like Daniel Hunter?
Speaker 1: Catch that? But I believe we have that Actually my
Speaker 1: favor one of my favorite moments of the night. If
Speaker 1: I could look like anybody on the planet, I'd probably
Speaker 1: want to look like Hunter, which I mean, he definitely
Speaker 1: came up with that line, like forty eight hours earlier,
Speaker 1: thinking about what he should say on Monday Night Football.
Speaker 1: But it's passable. It's weird though, because I've I've always
Speaker 1: felt that way too, and Hunter was always my my
Speaker 1: ultimate north star in terms of bodies. So we have
Speaker 1: that sense and John Gurdon, Wait, Mark, you think he
Speaker 1: cooked that up like days in advance? Absolutely, well, the
Speaker 1: experience came days in advance. He said it was from
Speaker 1: walking around the facility, and so he was already had
Speaker 1: the had the impression in his mind. And yes, I
Speaker 1: think they prepare all sorts of things they're gonna say.
Speaker 1: Continued with the conversation, and they both went in on
Speaker 1: it and started talking about here, he's even among NFL players,
Speaker 1: he he's what you know they call it, like in
Speaker 1: the draft prospect they go, oh, he's got a body beautiful,
Speaker 1: Like I can't tell if a being serious right now?
Speaker 1: We're serious? Yeah, I mean, but you think that it's
Speaker 1: you think that it would be an incredible scenario to
Speaker 1: come up with quips and comments before Monday Night football.
Speaker 1: Actually the cameras go on. I think that they's it's
Speaker 1: more like it's a look behind the curtain of Jake
Speaker 1: Gruden like what or John Gruden like what? He's large
Speaker 1: and muscular. I mean even among NFL players, he's a large,
Speaker 1: imposing Have you guys ever had that thought you don't
Speaker 1: have to say who the person is. I thought we
Speaker 1: could what you want to have someone someone else's body
Speaker 1: and stuff like if you ever like looked at someone
Speaker 1: and say, oh I want that body, like a thousand times,
Speaker 1: but like a specific individual. Yes, Stephenskowski for me, yeah,
Speaker 1: but not a football player. I would like to be taller,
Speaker 1: and like there's a lot of Instagram models that that
Speaker 1: I could go, Yeah, that would be we all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean everyone does, but to have a specific person
Speaker 1: and that you would want to buy. I think he was.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a little bit of a bit,
Speaker 1: you know, and it was a good one. Weird thing
Speaker 1: was the case, though, Yeah, I love it. And then
Speaker 1: and then their defense and Hunter they saved them because
Speaker 1: they only had thirty forty yards in the first half.
Speaker 1: The defense outscored the Bears defense three to two in
Speaker 1: the first half. Basically there was no offensive play in
Speaker 1: the first half whatsoever. And Keenum, for it should be noted,
Speaker 1: is fifth right now in ESPN s QBR, ahead of
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady and Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers, seventh
Speaker 1: among Pro Football Focus. I mean, he has been a
Speaker 1: really good sign. Not saying he's gonna pick it up,
Speaker 1: but him and Pat Shermer have done an incredible job
Speaker 1: this season. All right, let's move on. All right, let's
Speaker 1: do some news, and we'll start with something that came
Speaker 1: down on Tuesday morning involving a name brand in the
Speaker 1: NFL that's been struggling. Adrian Peterson has been traded to
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals from the New Orleans Saints. NFL Networks
Speaker 1: Tom Pallisero reported this this morning. ESPN at the First
Speaker 1: Report rap Sheet added that the Cardinals are sending back
Speaker 1: a conditional late round pick. All Day told NFL Networks
Speaker 1: Stacy Dale's I'm so ecstatic, kind of like a Jesse
Speaker 1: from Saved by the Bell moment right there. So Peterson
Speaker 1: has been a uh nonentity for the Saints, colleen one
Speaker 1: yards and four games, never had a defined role, was
Speaker 1: lost in the shuffle there, and now he goes to Arizona. Um,
Speaker 1: probably good for the Saints. And what does it mean
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. Well, I mean the Cardinals they had
Speaker 1: nothing going on with the run games, so at least
Speaker 1: they can try and give this a shot and see
Speaker 1: if maybe it works. Cutting Chris Johnson like he did
Speaker 1: nothing for them, and the fact that they had no
Speaker 1: John Brown like, it's just the way that our David Johnson,
Speaker 1: the way that that offense works. It's just not helping
Speaker 1: them at all that they don't have that run game.
Speaker 1: So I think it kind of works out for both parties.
Speaker 1: It's great for the Saints, who I'm sure are thrilled
Speaker 1: to get his salary off the books and basically the
Speaker 1: distraction after they realized that he didn't really fit on
Speaker 1: that team and that they don't need him. Remember he
Speaker 1: was signed before they drafted Alvin Kimara, and you know,
Speaker 1: and they they see how everything's working. I find it
Speaker 1: interesting to see these two players, too, were the best
Speaker 1: running backs to the last decade. Kind of two ships
Speaker 1: passing in the night again there. I remember an offseason
Speaker 1: where the hot hot take debate was which running back
Speaker 1: is better c J two K or Adrian Peterson the
Speaker 1: two best players in the league. And now they're kind
Speaker 1: of at the end of the line. And it's almost
Speaker 1: like making a somewhat sad Cardinals team a little sadder though.
Speaker 1: It's like this old, not that fun to watch anymore team.
Speaker 1: It's desperate. Yeah, it's a team that none of us
Speaker 1: believe is going anywhere. Prove us wrong. And you've added
Speaker 1: a player that at this point, I think if you're
Speaker 1: totally detached from football and you see this in the newspaper,
Speaker 1: you say, wow, Adrian Peterson to the Cardinals. That's huge
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. But if you've watched Adrian Peterson this season,
Speaker 1: and I think he would benefit by being on a
Speaker 1: team maybe in Arizona, where you're not brought in in
Speaker 1: the third quarter to carry the ball three times. If
Speaker 1: he's gonna succeed, he's a flow runner. Give him more
Speaker 1: of a chance. But it is a desperate move and
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if it pays off. He should
Speaker 1: be better than Chris Johnson, though, so I get why
Speaker 1: could I'm sure you could have. You could step in
Speaker 1: and do more than Chris Johns's dad. Last guy that
Speaker 1: is false Chris Johnson, if you watch their most recent game,
Speaker 1: move the ball. It's also the offensive line is the
Speaker 1: offensive line is problem. But Chris Johnson is his way
Speaker 1: on the other side, and maybe Peterson listen to everyone's
Speaker 1: completely writing them off. Now, I'm not saying I'm expecting
Speaker 1: him now to run for a thousand yards and ten
Speaker 1: games there, but um, he's gonna get the ball. You
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about him sniping on the sidelines
Speaker 1: at least to start right now. He's going to be
Speaker 1: a workhorse on on that team, and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: It is it's a little bit desperate. It's definitely a
Speaker 1: hail mary for the Cardinals who are just looking for
Speaker 1: something injected into the season that's been very flat. Maybe
Speaker 1: a hail mary for both too at this point, because
Speaker 1: he was obviously frustrated. And I don't think I've seen
Speaker 1: enough out of Adrian Peterson to say he's totally He
Speaker 1: did not fit there at all. There were a couple
Speaker 1: of runs where he ran pretty hard this season, like
Speaker 1: you barely saw anything. It was just obvious that he
Speaker 1: had no business being on that team. I just would
Speaker 1: let him, Let give him a chance to completely run
Speaker 1: the show. Is the running back and see what you got? Alright.
Speaker 1: Moving on one of the stranger storylines. Uh, And it
Speaker 1: popped up on Great Red, popped up on Reddit, uh,
Speaker 1: and then kinda or Facebook, and then went went viral
Speaker 1: with the help of Reddit. Um. A Dolphins offensive line
Speaker 1: coach named Chris Forrester U was a video starting gett
Speaker 1: passed around of him, apparently at the Dolphins facility, snorting
Speaker 1: lines of something. Colleen, what was it? White substance? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But you know what do you think it was? Are
Speaker 1: you putting me on the spot like this? I thought
Speaker 1: maybe you know, um so he was snorting something and
Speaker 1: I was insinuating drug use on your part. But that
Speaker 1: was just definitely this is such a weird You're not
Speaker 1: a drug addict, Colleen doesn't do drugs. That was a
Speaker 1: bit Chris Forrester apparently might have a problem. So it
Speaker 1: gets out there. Turn Yeah, it gets out there. It
Speaker 1: gets out there, and uh, Forrester resigns the next morning.
Speaker 1: Cut to next week, Colleen we here is only appearing
Speaker 1: on the day and now exclusively on the day a
Speaker 1: football program, Colleen Wolf. Uh so, Chris Forrest there uh
Speaker 1: no longer with the Dolphins after this truly bizarre video services, Uh,
Speaker 1: Mark and that and that is one way for you
Speaker 1: to uh shipwreck your career. That's one way to do it. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: there are the multiple things here that I think I
Speaker 1: would suggest someone maybe don't do a like publicly film
Speaker 1: drug use after the concept of doing it to begin with.
Speaker 1: That's someone's different. You know, you can have different takes
Speaker 1: on that. But why did you wait? I did not,
Speaker 1: damn it. That's absurd. That was an absurd pot stirring attempt. Here.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, do not when you do these things
Speaker 1: that probably are not going to look good to your employer.
Speaker 1: Send the video to UM. I guess a woman of
Speaker 1: the night. I don't know what else to call her.
Speaker 1: But just be careful who you can start with in general,
Speaker 1: and stop sending out, you know, self damaging videos because
Speaker 1: it leads here this here because you appeared to be
Speaker 1: an escort slash girlfriend. You know, the line is hazy
Speaker 1: there when finances are involved most likely, But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think also in this let me let me bring it back.
Speaker 1: He almost became the Rams offensive coordinator, but the Dolphins
Speaker 1: had blocked it in the offseason. Well here here was
Speaker 1: my most shocking thing. Although this was about as shocking
Speaker 1: and crazy. There's been some crazy Dolphins stories over the year,
Speaker 1: some that they want to forget, including their last offensive
Speaker 1: line coach or maybe it was too ago. Of course
Speaker 1: we remember that whole scandal in terms of bullying and everything.
Speaker 1: But there's been some crazy Dolphins stories over there. But
Speaker 1: one of the craziest takeaways I had from all this,
Speaker 1: Chris Forrester was reportedly making between two and a half
Speaker 1: and three million dollars a year as a as an
Speaker 1: offensive line coach, which is shocking. Jgi Is four year
Speaker 1: contract is worth two and a half a million dollars
Speaker 1: and their line coach is making more than that. Well,
Speaker 1: the only thing I'd say to that because there was
Speaker 1: there was or where the Browns line coach vanished in
Speaker 1: their line, which actually was meant to be good, letely
Speaker 1: crumbled in. It's easy for us to say it's just
Speaker 1: a position coach, like fill in the blank with the
Speaker 1: next dude, I get up that room, like the coach
Speaker 1: is the centerpiece of that entire I get it. But
Speaker 1: it's just like their line is doing anything great though
Speaker 1: right now the line is basically imploding itself. Just shows
Speaker 1: you how underpaid the players are, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Compared to if in a free market that guy can
Speaker 1: get two and a half to three million, and guess what,
Speaker 1: he'll be working again in two seasons, if not next season.
Speaker 1: That's how this thing works. Well, hopefully he can get
Speaker 1: the help that he needs. Clearly as a problem. Clearly
Speaker 1: there's a problem here. Also mark it down. October tenth,
Speaker 1: two thousand, seventy fifty AM Woman of the Night used
Speaker 1: for the first time on our podcast. I don't know,
Speaker 1: go back to our Super Bowl show from two two
Speaker 1: or three seasons ago, and Dan was quite a jag
Speaker 1: about a situation close to them. Was that in Arizona.
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't know what you referring to.
Speaker 1: If you were trying to insinuate things about other people
Speaker 1: on the show, which was untrue. Oh that you owe
Speaker 1: you in the connection to a woman of the night,
Speaker 1: which was utterly false, and go back and find that
Speaker 1: I don't remember that, But I like this, all right,
Speaker 1: let's remember let's apparently let's move on the Bucks. Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, the Bucks. They're making another change at kicker Folk.
Speaker 1: These are getting increasingly darker. We actually stopped down the
Speaker 1: show for like eleven minutes to make sure that was
Speaker 1: part of today's episodes. Very important. Um yes, Nick Folk,
Speaker 1: who who went window into dan soul that I'm not
Speaker 1: entirely comfortable with. Um Nick Folk, who beat out Robbie
Speaker 1: Aguayo for the Bucks kicker job this summer. He is
Speaker 1: now also out of a job. Tampa Bay is cursed
Speaker 1: at the position. So now they have after Folk had
Speaker 1: a dreadful just a dreadful Week four or Week five
Speaker 1: and season in general, he's gone. Incomes Patrick Murray, former
Speaker 1: Saints and Brown's Booter. According to Mark's copy, Mark, uh,
Speaker 1: this is a move that Tampa had to make, and
Speaker 1: you knew it. You knew it based on the comments
Speaker 1: that were made by dark Cutter after the game after Folk,
Speaker 1: what do you do? He missed. He basically lost the
Speaker 1: game to them and the week before costs them seven
Speaker 1: points to uh this they did not give many vote
Speaker 1: of confidence, so you knew it was just a matter
Speaker 1: of time. So Murray takes over for Folk and hopefully
Speaker 1: for the Bucks. He brings some stability to a position
Speaker 1: that's been a total train wreck now for a year
Speaker 1: and a half. By the way, you only go Booterer
Speaker 1: and copy when I've had to use kicker, like multiple times, Like, well,
Speaker 1: this is how the this is how these things work. Greg.
Speaker 1: So you know, listen, here's the thing. I just say
Speaker 1: kicker again. I know I know you would. I know
Speaker 1: you would. Here's whatnot me out of here and let
Speaker 1: me begin my birthdays. No, not at all. Here's what
Speaker 1: annoys me because I think a number one if you're
Speaker 1: if you're Dirk Cutter, you are just driven nuts. You
Speaker 1: want to assume as a head coach, this is not
Speaker 1: the thing you want to have at the top. Of
Speaker 1: your bullet points of I need to be concerned about
Speaker 1: weekly with my team. There's a lot you got trying
Speaker 1: to develop a young quarterback and offense. But people tweeting saying, oh, well,
Speaker 1: this is a bigger issue than like these teams that
Speaker 1: don't have quarterbacks, the Jets, the Browns, other teams like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're gonna find a kicker. This thing is gonna sort
Speaker 1: itself out. Don't tell me that you're in a worse
Speaker 1: situation than these teams that haven't had a quarterback that hard.
Speaker 1: You just found a liquor who was already on your team.
Speaker 1: He used to be on the box and he made
Speaker 1: it does feel hex though. Something feels like dark arts
Speaker 1: magic going on with that team, and I don't like
Speaker 1: it at all. And finally in the news, why a
Speaker 1: Tittle the Hall of Fame quarterback not a booter, A
Speaker 1: Sigma caller for the Colts, forty Niners, Giants. He passed
Speaker 1: away on Sunday night, ninety years old. Mark You wrote
Speaker 1: a o bit up for NFL dot com. He was
Speaker 1: seen or is seen as one of the trailblazers in
Speaker 1: terms of the passing quarterbacks in the NFL. Used to
Speaker 1: be a lot more boring. Uh, if you don't, if
Speaker 1: you if you're not a fan of like three yards
Speaker 1: up the middle cloud of dust. Hittle was part of
Speaker 1: the group that kind of changed how offensive worked well.
Speaker 1: And also all these quarterbacks that are constantly getting headlines
Speaker 1: because they want to play until they're late thirties. I
Speaker 1: might play until I'm thirty six, like this guy played
Speaker 1: until thirty eight, long before sports science and all that
Speaker 1: other nonsense rose up. He was taking the Giants into
Speaker 1: the playoff picture and in the in the mid sixties
Speaker 1: when he was in his late thirties. This guy was
Speaker 1: also the player if you don't remember growing up as
Speaker 1: a football fan and see the iconic photo of him.
Speaker 1: I think it was his last season in the league
Speaker 1: after he had thrown a pick six sitting kneeling on
Speaker 1: the turf, blood coming down from his from his forehead.
Speaker 1: He was called the Bald Eagle because he had a
Speaker 1: bald head. That's one of the most iconic NFL photos ever.
Speaker 1: And he also is the guy that threw seven touchdowns
Speaker 1: in one game against the Redskins. Why a Tittle dead
Speaker 1: at the age of ninety rest in peace. Uh, that's
Speaker 1: it for the news. And now let's move on to
Speaker 1: the Thursday night football preview presented by Shoulders of Greatness,
Speaker 1: Head and Shoulders, Shoulders of Greatness. I'll get it eventually.
Speaker 1: That was good. Yeah, I did my best. All right?
Speaker 1: Here we go, Greg, Philadelphia Eagles at the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1: Oh my own, how about this? Uh CBS and Jimmy
Speaker 1: Nance and Antonio Romo all excited because they got a
Speaker 1: banger here to four and one teams, And I'll say it.
Speaker 1: I'll throw it out there potential NFC Championship game preview.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm set it. Colleen would love I
Speaker 1: would love that because these are two of my most
Speaker 1: favorite teams to watch because of the quarterbacks, because they're
Speaker 1: so entertaining the fact that if you had told me
Speaker 1: going into the season, the Eagles would have a great
Speaker 1: running game and the Panthers would be the team the
Speaker 1: last few weeks when they really get it going, which
Speaker 1: is all about the past, and I would be a
Speaker 1: little worried about how they play with the lead. They
Speaker 1: gave up that lead in part because they could not
Speaker 1: run the ball, but it didn't matter because no one
Speaker 1: right now is any better throwing intermediate passes up the
Speaker 1: seams more than Cam Newton. Yeah, I'm I obviously can't
Speaker 1: wait for this game. I think the Carson Wentz, the
Speaker 1: way that he's been able to spread the ball around
Speaker 1: and get so many different guys involved. We saw Tori
Speaker 1: Smith finally get a touchdown, and the way that he's
Speaker 1: connecting with Nelson Agholare, who couldn't even catch last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was dropping everything last year and now
Speaker 1: he's scoring these long touchdowns. Plus the defensive line there,
Speaker 1: they had Fletcher Cox out and it's like it doesn't
Speaker 1: even matter because Timmy Journe Again, that was an amazing
Speaker 1: job by Howie Roseman to bring him in this year
Speaker 1: because it doesn't even look like a problem like this,
Speaker 1: Are you waiting all day for Thursday night? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's the most exciting Eagles team in a while.
Speaker 1: It's a fun. It's a team that feels like it
Speaker 1: has stay in power because it's good on both sides
Speaker 1: of the line. Like there aren't how many NFL teams
Speaker 1: can even think of That's like they have a good
Speaker 1: offensive line and they have a great defensive line that
Speaker 1: there's not any Yeah, they they were very high for
Speaker 1: most of us. I believe in our power rankings, I
Speaker 1: had them at two, which I think was a little aggressive,
Speaker 1: But I kind of think the rounding into form. I
Speaker 1: love the fact that, you know, early first two weeks,
Speaker 1: the ground game seemed like a suspect operation, which is
Speaker 1: terrible for a young quarterback. Now it's like you get
Speaker 1: Smallwood goes out and they just plug in. Kenyan Barner,
Speaker 1: who looked great on special teams, look great, you know,
Speaker 1: catching passes out of the backfield. They got so many
Speaker 1: different guys that you can attack with. And zach Ertz
Speaker 1: is quietly the best tight end in football right now.
Speaker 1: It's not even clothe, I mean has been well. People
Speaker 1: automatically put Gronk and I get, but but Earth's productive,
Speaker 1: a guy that you could count on week after week,
Speaker 1: and especially in a year I mean, if you want
Speaker 1: to take it to the fantasy corner, an a year
Speaker 1: where the tight end position has been so bad that
Speaker 1: you're gonna have teams and leagues that are gonna get
Speaker 1: the flex position and wiping out the tight end because
Speaker 1: who knows when this position is this position being phased
Speaker 1: out and on some level on from a past catching
Speaker 1: uh angle Earth's has been a guy every week who
Speaker 1: was delivering from the guy on the other side of
Speaker 1: the ball. I was gonna say, I have that many
Speaker 1: yards the rest of the season. I convinced yards. This
Speaker 1: is where you know you have some great shoulders when
Speaker 1: other when guys that normally aren't doing it, Yeah, look
Speaker 1: at it. Seven. Fun has really impressed me week after
Speaker 1: week with the tough grabs that he's making and then
Speaker 1: you have he's running. Are really something right? Yeah? So
Speaker 1: you know about that didn't give me pause. I was like,
Speaker 1: taking on the routes. It's funny. Fun will be remembered
Speaker 1: for that forever now. But he's coming into his own
Speaker 1: like It's just a deep offense, which I didn't expect.
Speaker 1: Kind of like the Eagles, they don't really have one
Speaker 1: guy standy o. Alshon. Jeffrey's been fine. It's nice to
Speaker 1: have all Shon. Jeffrey is not like a dominant number
Speaker 1: one receiver, but they had eight guys catch a pass
Speaker 1: in the first half last week. He's spreading around. I
Speaker 1: also thought Calvin Benjamin looked really good at the games
Speaker 1: doing test catch. I believe that that mojo seems to
Speaker 1: be act between Newton and Benjamin uh So, I don't know,
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of reasons to be excited about
Speaker 1: the Panthers ceiling right now. I think the Panthers best
Speaker 1: game is as good as anyone. Like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if we're going to see that every week, but I
Speaker 1: think if they they have the pieces, I think they're
Speaker 1: a better team than the Eagles overall, if they play
Speaker 1: their very best and if they go on is this
Speaker 1: game in Carolina? It is? So that's I think that's
Speaker 1: a huge advantage. They go three straight weeks, winning in Foxboro,
Speaker 1: winning in Detroit, and then you beat the Eagles. That's
Speaker 1: that is an impressive three game run. And if the
Speaker 1: Eagles win, NFC East is getting close to being wrapped. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people are gonna be fired up the City of Brotherly Love.
Speaker 1: All right, So there you go. That is the Thursday.
Speaker 1: I present a preview presented by Head and Shoulders and
Speaker 1: all them shoulders a greatness, all of them great All right,
Speaker 1: here we go we uh we tease it at the
Speaker 1: top of the show. Uh. There are some um significant
Speaker 1: name brand players across the NFL landscape who have not
Speaker 1: performed up to expectations this season. Let's go down the list,
Speaker 1: and and I'm gonna throw some out there and we'll
Speaker 1: go around the room. Um, who are you really worried about?
Speaker 1: Who are you not so worried about it? Who are
Speaker 1: you kind of on the fence with And we're gonna
Speaker 1: do this by using Um this is this is important
Speaker 1: that I explained this properly because, Uh, it is the
Speaker 1: def con ready, the deaf con system. Uh it is.
Speaker 1: And people that are not in this country, I don't
Speaker 1: even know if def con is a thing. So this
Speaker 1: is what you need to know. It's an alert state
Speaker 1: used by the United States United States Armed Forces, and uh,
Speaker 1: there are five levels. And I was explaining talking with
Speaker 1: Connie before the show. Uh, some people think level one
Speaker 1: is the lowest level of a def con in terms
Speaker 1: of concern. Flip it, flip it. And when I said
Speaker 1: that to Connie, she said, oh, god, damn it. So
Speaker 1: we're a little worried. So Defcon five is the highest.
Speaker 1: That is the lowest state of readiness, normal readiness. Don't
Speaker 1: worry about DECON five. Really, Decon five not that big
Speaker 1: a deal. The problem on issues. The description is nuclear
Speaker 1: war is imminent maximum readiness. We're kind of like our
Speaker 1: country and like this is getting too real. I would
Speaker 1: say we're probably around defcon to. I'm with you on
Speaker 1: that next step to nuclear war. I'm glad we're on
Speaker 1: the West coast as well, right there, Like definitely an
Speaker 1: NFL players performance after four or five weeks of games,
Speaker 1: is you know, attributed to a nuclear war reference? Maybe
Speaker 1: in these that happened to the vikings last year, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's fair. Maybe in these times of unease, mark the
Speaker 1: best thing we can do just kind of make light
Speaker 1: at the world of the world and just have some
Speaker 1: fun here in the old studio. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1: Here we go halfway up the coast. And I'm not
Speaker 1: because I am certainly not six. The thunderbird with the
Speaker 1: top down, the wind going through his hair. I could
Speaker 1: see it now, the bottle of white fix front seat
Speaker 1: not opened yet. But once you get to that, just
Speaker 1: that beachside location, blasting the beatles, you say it's your
Speaker 1: birthday over and over in his car. We can't use
Speaker 1: the beatles. You can't say just stay away from it.
Speaker 1: Just we don't want to say thankfully. We can sing
Speaker 1: happy birthday, though, now that's a new thing. I don't
Speaker 1: even not sure about that. Just yeah, just all right,
Speaker 1: let's start it out, and we'll start with the name
Speaker 1: that is going to be at the top of everyone's
Speaker 1: list if you're following the NFL, especially on Sunday, a
Speaker 1: star that you just cannot figure out. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: start with you, Mr Sessler. His name is big Ben Rothelisberger.
Speaker 1: And he just threw five in or set options and
Speaker 1: a loss of the Jaguars. And he has not been
Speaker 1: um a very good quarterback all season. Where would you
Speaker 1: put him? Uh, where are you on level of concern?
Speaker 1: Where would you put him on the deaf con scale?
Speaker 1: Terrible game? I mean you have to, you have He's
Speaker 1: never had a game to that magnitude. I'm going deaf
Speaker 1: con for though, because I think the whole offense feels
Speaker 1: a little bit out of sync. I don't want to
Speaker 1: judge big Ben. I think it's one of been in
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks in NFL history, in the best of
Speaker 1: our life. Based on one month's kind of it's he's
Speaker 1: been all right in other games. This was he This
Speaker 1: was a meltdown, But meltdowns occur occasionally. They happened all
Speaker 1: the time for lesser quarterbacks. When it happens to him.
Speaker 1: I'm not calling his career yet. If we're talking about
Speaker 1: this three weeks from now, the deaf con level raises
Speaker 1: much higher. For me. I thought he had a bad game,
Speaker 1: obviously very bad game, but some of the picks weren't
Speaker 1: so bad, and then the game kind of I give
Speaker 1: a lot of credit to Jacksonville. There seemed like there
Speaker 1: was like thirteen guys on the field in the secondary
Speaker 1: at various points that game, so I think it was
Speaker 1: a game they've just got out of hand. A receiver
Speaker 1: slipped to one point. There weren't too many horrendous passes,
Speaker 1: I thought by Ben, so I'm with you. Def Gun
Speaker 1: four is also, by the way, increased intelligence watch and
Speaker 1: strengthened security measures feel feels fair. That that feels fair.
Speaker 1: But he's been before this game solid but not spectacular,
Speaker 1: which is not what you expect out of Ben Roethlisbigger,
Speaker 1: you expect the spectacular. So I think it is fair
Speaker 1: to be concerned. If you're just looking at a well
Speaker 1: how concerned, then I'm gonna go free because it's more
Speaker 1: than It's more than just five games. It's last season two.
Speaker 1: So he was at eight point four yards per attempt
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago down a full yard last
Speaker 1: year just about the seven point five, and now we're
Speaker 1: down to six point five. So they're not they're not
Speaker 1: being as efficient as a passing game really through the
Speaker 1: last well, my one question, would he even be in
Speaker 1: this exercise on this list if he hadn't had the
Speaker 1: Sunday meltdown? If he had he had, if he had
Speaker 1: two touchdowns and a pick and a pick and they've
Speaker 1: got out with he has more interceptions than touchdowns so
Speaker 1: far this year. And the offense, who we all thought
Speaker 1: and a lot of people thought was going to be
Speaker 1: this like monster machine, just hasn't clicked at all. And
Speaker 1: I think that starts with him. It's not like I
Speaker 1: think he's at the end of the line. It's more
Speaker 1: is he done with being a top five quarterbacks? That's
Speaker 1: what I expect, That's what I've thought Ben Roethlisberger is
Speaker 1: throughout most of his career as a top five guy,
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been that guy. All right, Let's move
Speaker 1: on and talk about Marshawn Lynch, who came to the
Speaker 1: Raiders which out of retirement with much fanfare. Things got
Speaker 1: off to a very nice start, helped close out a
Speaker 1: win over the Titans. But ever since, uh he has
Speaker 1: not averaged more than three point eight yards per game
Speaker 1: in any game, and on the season he's at three
Speaker 1: point four yards per game. Has found the end zone twice,
Speaker 1: including on Sunday, but has been a bit underwhelming. Greg
Speaker 1: Where would you put him on your deaf con scale?
Speaker 1: I would put him at def Con five, lowest state
Speaker 1: of readiness. I'm not he like. I'm not that concerned
Speaker 1: with him. It's more of the offense as a whole.
Speaker 1: He fulfills a very particular role in that offense. And
Speaker 1: when I watched him run, I think he's running hard.
Speaker 1: No one's running well for that team. No one's doing anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, the passing game was struggling. Derek Carr was
Speaker 1: struggling before he got hurt. There's a lot going on.
Speaker 1: To me, Lynch is just a part of the system.
Speaker 1: But if we because there was a lot of talk
Speaker 1: that and a lot of praise for him when he
Speaker 1: first came back. Oh, he hasn't the beat. This looks
Speaker 1: like prime Lynch, like Marshawn Lynch. When he's Marshawn Lynch,
Speaker 1: makes teams better, makes offensive lines look better, and he
Speaker 1: has not been that. I mean that he has not
Speaker 1: been able to carry, you know, carry the load. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's the Colleen Wolf curse. You know, you step back
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf a little in inappropriately on air, and you
Speaker 1: don't have a good season. That's That's what happens to everybody.
Speaker 1: Anybody who who who comes at me like that, he that, yeah,
Speaker 1: so overly frisky, and he's now he's paying the price.
Speaker 1: I think so, Like, I mean, it makes sense you
Speaker 1: just add connect to all of those dots and what else.
Speaker 1: How about another Raider and we'll let you start this
Speaker 1: one off, Connie Amari Cooper, who has been really not
Speaker 1: just not a real contributor, but he's become a liability.
Speaker 1: It seems to the Raiders that wide receiver put this one.
Speaker 1: I am so concerned about Amari Cooper. It is and
Speaker 1: it's obviously not just I know this is. This is
Speaker 1: a major problem. It's not happening. It's imminent. He hasn't
Speaker 1: looked the same all season. He the drops are crushing
Speaker 1: them right now. He's four of twenty three the last
Speaker 1: three games combined all together, like this is, he's only
Speaker 1: caught thirteen passes on thirty three targets. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on with him, but I think it's almost
Speaker 1: he was struggling at the beginning of the season, and
Speaker 1: now it's probably in his head, so it's it's gotten
Speaker 1: even worse and more pronounced. One seems high. He hasn't
Speaker 1: act record. I know he's been in a funk and
Speaker 1: it hasn't helped. Now that the quarterbacks out, I'll put him.
Speaker 1: I'll put him in to a stepano one. I'm definitely
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people have reason to be
Speaker 1: extremely concerned with Amari Cooper. But one means like you're
Speaker 1: almost basically pulling him out of the lineup, which I
Speaker 1: guess could happen, but I don't know. I'm just extremely
Speaker 1: concerned about him, and I wouldn't trust him at all.
Speaker 1: If if he was on my fantasy team, per se,
Speaker 1: I would take him out of my line up. There
Speaker 1: one fantasy first two feels good to me because I
Speaker 1: think the again, it points back to it's not Marshawn Lynch.
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily just to Marie Cooper. This whole Raider's
Speaker 1: offense that people just ticketed this team. Oh yeah, twelve
Speaker 1: and four roll right into the NFC Championship against the Patriots. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not happening at all. It's a good lesson a
Speaker 1: the offensive line doesn't translate from year to year. But
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, I think it's a kind of guy. What
Speaker 1: do we find out after the season he was dealing
Speaker 1: with X. I don't know what it is, but it's something.
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, something I would go forward because this
Speaker 1: is the same guy we were talking after week one. Wow,
Speaker 1: this looks like a different AMRII Cooper. He looks even
Speaker 1: better than ever in physicality. He's too good, I think
Speaker 1: to not snap out of it. I'd love to see
Speaker 1: where both these guys are in two months. I do.
Speaker 1: I just realize, Greg on the Saints, I feel like
Speaker 1: I know you very well now at this point, Greg,
Speaker 1: and in general, a big like viewpoint in your life
Speaker 1: is it's not a big deal, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: A lot of like it's gonna be a lot of that.
Speaker 1: All of our like generally, players and teams and all
Speaker 1: of this like reverts to their normal means. So when
Speaker 1: they're down, the logical pick is they're gonna go up. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do two more. Um, how about this one? Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: not not specifically a player, but the Tennessee Tytoons uh
Speaker 1: and their exotic smash mouth offense. Not a lot going
Speaker 1: on with the Titans on offense so far this season.
Speaker 1: Their quarterbacks hurt. Hopefully it gets back soon, but in general,
Speaker 1: the idea of exotic smash mouth in Nashville. I think
Speaker 1: the team wanted to change a little bit on an offense.
Speaker 1: In theory. You added Corey Davis, Eric Decker, you have
Speaker 1: more weapons Shard Matthews through the air. But one of
Speaker 1: the most unwatchable NFL teams i've seen all season with
Speaker 1: Mariotta replaced by Matt Castle at quarterback. Totally dysfunctional, and
Speaker 1: I think it says when you can't you know, when
Speaker 1: you can't have to deal with it, Marks Marito. But
Speaker 1: it's Matt Castle flinging, you know, dump offs and and
Speaker 1: inaccurate screen passes that you can tee up on the
Speaker 1: running backs. But they also don't seem to have the
Speaker 1: offensive line strength. And last year they're putting six seven
Speaker 1: blockers and they were just saying we're gonna come at you.
Speaker 1: I love that style of football. I haven't seen it
Speaker 1: this year. I think DeMarco Murray. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: a crisis with de Marco Murray, but he's not the
Speaker 1: guy from last season next Cilian Derrick Henry. They haven't
Speaker 1: last game at least they didn't quite figure out how
Speaker 1: to get unleash him and get him involved. So the
Speaker 1: smash mouth thing to me, I put it at a
Speaker 1: two because the Titans, to me, I think I'm baking
Speaker 1: in the whole Mariotta experience and if he's out for
Speaker 1: extending more amount of time, but we all know their
Speaker 1: offense is going to be bad with Matt Castle, Brenda,
Speaker 1: I just don't see that. I don't see a major
Speaker 1: progress from last year's offense. I do not. I see
Speaker 1: a regression. And that's why it's high. This is a
Speaker 1: team that put up seventy points on the Jaguars and
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, two defenses we respect that ran for nearly
Speaker 1: two hundred yards a game in both those games. So
Speaker 1: I'm going defcon one. I mean you're going one. Matt
Speaker 1: Castle is def con the whole system on the way
Speaker 1: I messed it up. Wait, like Colleen, you know you
Speaker 1: know we're back to You don't care at all about
Speaker 1: this situation. That's what you mean, I was like, it's
Speaker 1: not like Colleen in the Sandwich game. I don't really
Speaker 1: understand what's going on. I'm going deaf gun five. Of
Speaker 1: course Matt Castle. Of course, Matt Castle is beyond def
Speaker 1: cont Castle is like, you're just like it's over. If
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotte is back, then I'm not worried. Here's the
Speaker 1: worst news. Uh, if you have someone that flips the
Speaker 1: Defcon one switch, you can't be and you just led
Speaker 1: to like millions of people sloughtered, Greg, How do you
Speaker 1: feel they'll get He'll get over it, right, I can
Speaker 1: He'll get over it. It'll be fine, all right, last one,
Speaker 1: last one, and then we gotta go. Let's be quick
Speaker 1: on this Jamis Winston. I have no real take on that.
Speaker 1: I think I don't understand why he's on the list. Five.
Speaker 1: Are we worried about Jamis? The last game he kind
Speaker 1: of looked a little off. This is where we differ.
Speaker 1: You know, you can't put me in a box. I'm
Speaker 1: going def Con three on Jamis Winston. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's played well all season. I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: the Bucks offense has played well. He had a couple
Speaker 1: of quarters where he gets hot for a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I would say he's been less consistent this season
Speaker 1: than ever before in the season where we expect him
Speaker 1: to take another step. I'm a little concerned. It's been
Speaker 1: a very erratic offense for four straight weeks and then
Speaker 1: consistently not very good. Well. I like getting Doug Martin back,
Speaker 1: and I do think there's been too much emphasis on
Speaker 1: trying to make the Deshaun Jackson thing worked. Quarter after quarter.
Speaker 1: It seems like his throws just are as accurate as
Speaker 1: they were before, and the communication is not on the
Speaker 1: He's not on the same page with a lot of
Speaker 1: his guys, especially on that last play with O. J. Howard,
Speaker 1: like where it's my level? Where does your return to
Speaker 1: the mean theory apply to this? Because I think he will.
Speaker 1: I think he'll be fine. It's a young quarterback that
Speaker 1: we can't expect the world from this, you know this minute. Well,
Speaker 1: we're talking this season, and I'm concerned that that this
Speaker 1: has been enough such and it might be another kind
Speaker 1: of up and down Winston year, which was not kind
Speaker 1: of the consensus going into the season. It was seeming
Speaker 1: that he was going to be the next level guy.
Speaker 1: Get it. That seems right? All right, there you go
Speaker 1: that have gone levels concerned. Sorry, stuggling player's kind of mixing,
Speaker 1: mixing metaphors, Does that make sense? We kind of got
Speaker 1: a little messy in there, did our best. We think
Speaker 1: we got the mess I'm sorry to all the civilians
Speaker 1: out there that I literally their shadows are on the
Speaker 1: pavement and that's all that's left. Yeah. Wow, it's so
Speaker 1: dark in here. It's getting so dark. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Um okay, let's bring some light income please, let's do please,
Speaker 1: let's stop killing everybody we're gonna do it with. It's
Speaker 1: like nuclear death, drug problems. There's so much thing, so
Speaker 1: many bad things in the world that Mark's birthday. Mark's
Speaker 1: birthday is a nice thing, but also it's a reminder.
Speaker 1: You guys are far more excited about it than I am,
Speaker 1: but it is a It is a reminder of the
Speaker 1: unstoppable march of time on some level. So that's kind
Speaker 1: of dark. But one thing that is bright is the
Speaker 1: sub reddit super Contest Week four def Con five sound No,
Speaker 1: I think it was like a trumpet. This feels like
Speaker 1: the nuclear blast level of my fear in this is
Speaker 1: def Con too. I bring it up people, and again
Speaker 1: I'm with I would put it, I've been shaken a
Speaker 1: little bit by the listeners last week. I thought that
Speaker 1: we put out some questions that were I don't I
Speaker 1: want to say layups, but it was like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: we want you to win these these dam football how
Speaker 1: you put it up on a t and they walked up,
Speaker 1: you know, like one of those kids with the bat,
Speaker 1: and they just hit the actual tea. I want to
Speaker 1: stay for the whole time there, but just hit the
Speaker 1: tall Sadly, Connie wants to say, so, let's get right
Speaker 1: into it. If we can loose cannon behind the glass.
Speaker 1: Who do we have up first today? Colin from New Jersey,
Speaker 1: Collin from New Jersey, Jersey Boy, we were in Jersey,
Speaker 1: coln right near Morristown, Somerset County. Are you an Eagles fan? Oh?
Speaker 1: No way, I'm a Jets fan. Alright, Colin, all right,
Speaker 1: first Jets fan. You know Colin that I'm rooting for
Speaker 1: you here, uh maybe even our own Could you potentially
Speaker 1: have two tickets the Jets Patriots as on the line, alright,
Speaker 1: so you know I'm rooting for you. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, Colin, I cannot do anything but read the
Speaker 1: questions and you need to get four answers in a
Speaker 1: row or we say goodbye. And even despite being a
Speaker 1: Jersey guy and being a Jets fan, we're hanging up
Speaker 1: the phone if you fail and there's nothing else to say.
Speaker 1: That's all right, let's do this thing. Oh ready. The
Speaker 1: Houston Texans lost two key defensive players to season ending
Speaker 1: injuries in Sunday Nights, lost to the Chiefs. Name uh
Speaker 1: J J. Watt and Whitney Merciless. Coolest name in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good. I think it ends here. I think
Speaker 1: the ends good. Good. This quarterback. This quarterback has started
Speaker 1: games with three different NFC teams since being taken first
Speaker 1: overall in the two thousand ten NFL Draft. Sammy Bradford,
Speaker 1: yea halfway home. Christian Anderson had his finger on the trigger,
Speaker 1: ready to hang up on you behind the glass, but
Speaker 1: no halfway right now? Colin from Morristown, New Jersey. Let's
Speaker 1: do this. This is the question tied to Around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast trivia. How long you've been a listener? Uh,
Speaker 1: two and a half years. You should be okay, you're
Speaker 1: question three? Who is John Gonzalez? Who is John Gonzales?
Speaker 1: Is calling Wolf's lovely husband from Philadelphia. Yeah, alright, that's right,
Speaker 1: you got it. I lived there for a couple of years,
Speaker 1: big fans, all right, No it was I mean, this
Speaker 1: is just we don't even need the fourth question. Send
Speaker 1: the ticket. I like this guy. My girlfriend went through
Speaker 1: the mount and I told him about the Gwynned Gwenned
Speaker 1: Academy story. They love. That's where my sister went at
Speaker 1: the Penny story. Yeah, it's We're all basically family on
Speaker 1: that side of the story. Classic Wolf. Alright, so there
Speaker 1: you go. That's three for three. Um, if anyone is
Speaker 1: curious about John Gonzalaz, there's even more information if you
Speaker 1: want to hear it. Did you just get hired by
Speaker 1: the ringer? He did? Oh, there's also this information. John
Speaker 1: Reynald Gonzalo sport Marks twelve is an American sports writer.
Speaker 1: Was married NIFL need a broadcaster Colley Wolf. John, who
Speaker 1: was Spy's resides in Los Angeles with his wife and
Speaker 1: two dogs. Okay, Originally Dan wanted that that needed to
Speaker 1: be the complete answer. I said, this is yeah, that
Speaker 1: was me literally trying to kill Greg. But I'll take
Speaker 1: lovely husband in Philadelphia native. Okay, here we go. This
Speaker 1: is for all the marbles. Uh, three in a row.
Speaker 1: You're ready, Christian, don't hang up his fingers on the button.
Speaker 1: Here we go. This is an audio clue. The Bears
Speaker 1: what we thought they were, what we thought they were.
Speaker 1: We played them in preseason. The hell takes a third
Speaker 1: game in the preseason, like bo, we played him in
Speaker 1: the third game. Everybody played three quarters their Bears or
Speaker 1: who we thought they were. That's why we took the
Speaker 1: damn field. Now, if you want to crown him, then
Speaker 1: crowned her. But they are who we thought they were,
Speaker 1: and we led him out the hook. Put the name
Speaker 1: that the former Arizona Arizona Cardinals. Good Kevin Green. Oh oh, oh,
Speaker 1: golle it. I thought that was the easiest question, but
Speaker 1: it was incorrect. That's the incorrect answer. It is not
Speaker 1: Kevin Green. Wow, Kevin Green is a Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: pass Rush. Well, did you say Kevin or Devon? Doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I didn't say the right answer. We know that, right.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that. All right, let's get another one
Speaker 1: on the on the line. I am literally, I mean,
Speaker 1: these are not layups. These are if you woke up
Speaker 1: out of bed and you're still awake, you should be
Speaker 1: able to answer. I think I think the first couple
Speaker 1: were pretty tough, and you got wow. I mean, I honestly,
Speaker 1: if you get past the first two, you are smooth sale.
Speaker 1: And unless you're simply, I don't know, you crumbled. I
Speaker 1: haven't been that a crumb appointed since because my parents
Speaker 1: told me that. All right, this is a dark show.
Speaker 1: All right, we got somebody else on line. I'm honestly
Speaker 1: a little bit stunned right now, and I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be professional, but all right, who's who's on the line.
Speaker 1: We've got Ryan from Los Angeles? Right, Ryan, Yes, that's me.
Speaker 1: I mean Colin could have been jets Pat. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Before are you caught? You're very lucky. The caller before
Speaker 1: you could not have been any closer to winning the tickets.
Speaker 1: But now you've got a chance. I'm gonna it. Sounds
Speaker 1: like it's downstairs in our news room. All right, who's
Speaker 1: this Ryan from Los Angeles? Al Right, here we go, Ryan, Um,
Speaker 1: you are a fortunate man. The contest goes on four questions,
Speaker 1: and Roy, you gotta get right you ready, I'm ready,
Speaker 1: let's do it. The Houston Texans lost two key defensive
Speaker 1: players to season ending injuries and Sunday nights lost to
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. Name them. That will be J. J. Watt
Speaker 1: and Whitney merciless for this quarterback has started games with
Speaker 1: three different NFC teams since being selected first overall in
Speaker 1: the two thousand ten NFL Draft. Uh, Sam Bradford very good?
Speaker 1: Halfway home? All right? This is the UH around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast question. Who is John Gonzalez? John Gonzalez is
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolfe's husband. Yeah, you never know. Alright, we're back
Speaker 1: where we started. That's how he describes himself to just
Speaker 1: generally when he's walking John Gonzalo. You know her from
Speaker 1: all the NFL network shows. Ryan, who's your team? I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: who's your team? I sit on the throne of ease,
Speaker 1: he could to Patriots a Jets fan. Now of the
Speaker 1: Patriot you're in l A. Though, Did they have any
Speaker 1: West coast trips? I'll check that out for you. Check
Speaker 1: that out. I don't know. Do you did you have anything?
Speaker 1: Have you looked ahead of that much to say what
Speaker 1: game you would target? If you do get this final question?
Speaker 1: I think the closest game to l A is in Denver,
Speaker 1: Oakland in week eleven. Then you're fully aware of the
Speaker 1: shadowy League figures did not provide any airfare or lodging
Speaker 1: in Mexico season. That's true. That's in Mexico City. Would
Speaker 1: you like to drive to Mexico City. I can't. I
Speaker 1: won't say, all right, here we go. Come on, Ryan,
Speaker 1: you could do this, Ryan. This is an audio clue
Speaker 1: for two tickets on the throne of these The Bears
Speaker 1: are what we thought they were, what what we thought
Speaker 1: they were? We played them in preseason. Who the hell
Speaker 1: takes the third game in the preseason, because both both
Speaker 1: we played him in the third game. Everybody played three
Speaker 1: quarters their bears or who we thought they were. That's
Speaker 1: why we took the damn field. Now, if you want
Speaker 1: to crown them, they crowned her. But they are who
Speaker 1: we thought they were. And we let him out the
Speaker 1: hook answer, who is that? Um, I'm going on on
Speaker 1: a m I'm gonna says, that's correct. This is up
Speaker 1: a super contest. I like that he didn't know that
Speaker 1: he won. With all the screaming, thank you, thank you
Speaker 1: for ending this just how it should with a Jets
Speaker 1: stand getting as close as you and blowing it, and
Speaker 1: then a Patriots fan taking it home a big victory. Um. Wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Devin Green was it Kevin Green? Whatever? The previous
Speaker 1: the previous collar collar said Kevin Green at the very end,
Speaker 1: So the correct answer is Dennis Green. He was the
Speaker 1: at the time, the late Dennis Green. Uh. He was
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals head coach after they really blew a
Speaker 1: game against the Bears. So there you go. Ryan from
Speaker 1: l A wins two tickets. The first ever subreddit super
Speaker 1: contest is in the books. Congratulations Ryan, Um, stay on
Speaker 1: the line with um Um loose cannon. She'll help you
Speaker 1: out with the details and what you need to know
Speaker 1: to find out. But congratulations, buddy, great job. Thank you
Speaker 1: for our you know, collective misery. Well, Greg, Um, what
Speaker 1: what did you learn about the idea of rewarding listeners
Speaker 1: for how much they love our show? I hope you
Speaker 1: learned that that it's good to reach out to the
Speaker 1: listeners and and share moments with them like that that
Speaker 1: special moment the Ryan just had, that's true. I mean
Speaker 1: you could have just given them the tickets. That would
Speaker 1: have been a special moment like call why not? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't need to get through so so many hoops
Speaker 1: you can act like monkeys for your entertainment, right, Okay, Greg,
Speaker 1: good job. That is the Subreddit Super Contest two thousand seventeen.
Speaker 1: Good News will be back in Buddy, all right, what
Speaker 1: drama here? Uh? In Studio sixties six. We have to
Speaker 1: get going now. But just a reminder that the live
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Speaker 1: elsewhere in the world. Figure it out. And also a
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Speaker 1: and eleven pm Eastern, and then Sunday morning once more
Speaker 1: at six am Eastern where we actually lead into Countie
Speaker 1: Fox in the game Day Morning Crew. UH. So, thank
Speaker 1: you everybody for listening, Thank you for being a part
Speaker 1: of the subreddit super Contest. We uh the turnout was
Speaker 1: really great and we love interfacing with you guys, so
Speaker 1: thank you for being part of that. And let's go.
Speaker 1: This is Da Hansas signing off four Quiet Storm, Connie Fox,
Speaker 1: the Old Boss, Loose Cannon behind the Glass, and everybody else.
Speaker 1: Christian Finger on the trigger till Thursday m