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Speaker 1: to the show. Uh, and I and I want to talk.
Speaker 1: I want to go on a little rant about there's
Speaker 1: so much happening in the world, and one of the
Speaker 1: more prominent stories in the news is the sexual assaults
Speaker 1: allegations against Harvey Whitsey. That is, that's a big that's
Speaker 1: been popping up in my fucking news feed all the time.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's because we're in the industry, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys have heard about it. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's to the point where I didn't realize that this
Speaker 1: that uh so many people were sexually assaulted until we
Speaker 1: started doing this podcast and we started getting so many
Speaker 1: fucking emails about it. And I really feel like it's
Speaker 1: become my cause that I feel very passionate about and
Speaker 1: try to kind of get down to why the funk
Speaker 1: this happened so much. I know that's a lot of
Speaker 1: undertaking for one person, but I I every time I
Speaker 1: read or hear about a raper sexual assault if any kind,
Speaker 1: whether it's in our inbox, whether it's on the television,
Speaker 1: whether it's a good friend of mine, it makes like
Speaker 1: a a small dent in me. And I'm starting to
Speaker 1: normalize it and it's starting to annoy me, and that's
Speaker 1: very jarring. It's to the point where Krenta and I
Speaker 1: we discussed what gmails we want to read every week
Speaker 1: on the podcast before we record the intro, and a
Speaker 1: lot of times well, but we both have said, I
Speaker 1: don't want to read another rape email. We should just
Speaker 1: move on to something sillier. And it's I can't stress
Speaker 1: enough how much of an epidemic this is. If you
Speaker 1: don't already feel that way or know that that to
Speaker 1: be true, it's true. And uh. There was a night
Speaker 1: so Corn and I went to the cash A concert
Speaker 1: and we went separately. She went with her friend Tommy
Speaker 1: and I went with um with Wendy Starling, who has
Speaker 1: been a guest on this podcast. I met her because
Speaker 1: she was she was a guest and she wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about her sexual assault. And there is this moment
Speaker 1: during the Kesha concert towards the end where she sang
Speaker 1: the song Praying, which is about Dr Luke, the music
Speaker 1: producer who sexually assaulted her. And I'm listening to this
Speaker 1: beautiful song and I'm holding the hand of a dear,
Speaker 1: dear friend who was raped, and there's women and men
Speaker 1: around me and the concert standing next to me who
Speaker 1: were crying and who are being cradled by their loved
Speaker 1: ones during that song, and I could kind of tell
Speaker 1: why after a lot of our live shows that Karrent
Speaker 1: and I do around the world, we I can identify
Speaker 1: the second someone comes up to us and they say,
Speaker 1: I just want to say thank you of the time,
Speaker 1: it's because they were sexually assaulted. And so I'm at
Speaker 1: this concert and at this very powerful moment, and then
Speaker 1: I come home and there's all of these stories about
Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein. All of these people are coming for We're
Speaker 1: saying he did it to me too, he did it
Speaker 1: to me too, and uh that I believe it was
Speaker 1: a New York Times piece where Ashley Judd had detailed
Speaker 1: her sexual assault experience again the from Harvey Weinstein, and uh.
Speaker 1: And then Gwyneth Paltrow came forward and said, he did
Speaker 1: this to me, he assaulted me, or he made me
Speaker 1: feel extremely uncomfortable when I got this lead movie role.
Speaker 1: And then I had to get her then boyfriend Brad
Speaker 1: Pitt to intervene. Uh. Angelina Jolie has said stuff about
Speaker 1: him and people I'm getting the I didn't know all
Speaker 1: this stuff about Harvey, but a lot of people in
Speaker 1: the industry have known this for a very long time. Uh.
Speaker 1: And so I come home to that news the day
Speaker 1: before I walked past this bar in the Upper East
Speaker 1: Side where two of my very close friends were drugged
Speaker 1: and raped by by people who worked at that bar. Uh.
Speaker 1: And every time anybody gets out it as sexual assaulting somebody,
Speaker 1: they always go back to the Trump comments where we
Speaker 1: and it's just a reminder that we live in a
Speaker 1: country in which the President has said very foul degrading,
Speaker 1: disgusting sexual harassment remarks about women, I e. Grabbed them
Speaker 1: by the pussy, and that all of that accumulated that
Speaker 1: night of the Kesher concert when I got home, And
Speaker 1: that's what it took to jar me to not to
Speaker 1: not have me have that typical reaction of like, oh,
Speaker 1: this happens all the time. I'm just like, God, damn it.
Speaker 1: This is a huge fucking problem. There are there are
Speaker 1: allegations of sexual assault against one of the biggest comedians
Speaker 1: in the industry, Louis c k. You can google it.
Speaker 1: People have been saying these things about Louis for a
Speaker 1: really long time in the press. It's not getting any
Speaker 1: attention enough to be as widespread as Harvey wine Stein
Speaker 1: and one of the people who work in a credit
Speaker 1: nice team had called me a week or two before
Speaker 1: saying that they were sexually assaulted by a coworker in
Speaker 1: a higher position, And when she finally told another coworker,
Speaker 1: there was these oh my god, me too, Oh my God,
Speaker 1: me too, and then the guy got fired, which is amazing.
Speaker 1: But I hear about sexual assault all god damn day,
Speaker 1: it seems, and I don't know what the funk to
Speaker 1: do about it. And I have a friend, her name
Speaker 1: is Jasmine. She's a she's a branding consultant in New
Speaker 1: York City. She's really talented, and I was talking to
Speaker 1: her about this a year ago when we were in
Speaker 1: I remember being in Colorado and I was discussing. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the funk do we do? Because there was a
Speaker 1: point in time where I called out on the podcast. Statistically,
Speaker 1: there has to be someone listening to this podcast who
Speaker 1: has raped, somebody who has sexually assaulted at somebody who
Speaker 1: has thought about it. For the love of God, please
Speaker 1: email us. You can be anonymous, make up an email.
Speaker 1: I don't give a ship what your identity is. I
Speaker 1: just I've heard from one side of this horrible story
Speaker 1: for the past three years, and I've yet to hear
Speaker 1: from an actual person who has done this. And what
Speaker 1: their reasonings are. It doesn't mean that that speed to
Speaker 1: the reasonings of every person who's who's committed sexual assault. Uh.
Speaker 1: And we got some emails and that was really um shocking, interesting, heartbreaking.
Speaker 1: And I was talking to Jasmine and because she was
Speaker 1: with me when I got that one email, and I
Speaker 1: remember the subject line was I want to rape a girl.
Speaker 1: And she had suggested maybe partnering up with something like
Speaker 1: the Kinsey Institute two do a study on this to
Speaker 1: maybe find a solution to this problem. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the funk the solution would be. And I've always
Speaker 1: thought that was a really good idea. Because we have
Speaker 1: so many people emailing us intimate information, perhaps we can
Speaker 1: connect them anonymously with this institution and they could form
Speaker 1: a study on this, but form a study from the
Speaker 1: perspective of the fucking assaulter, because I that's the only
Speaker 1: thing I can think of as to how we can
Speaker 1: get close to solving this epidemic. And so, um, I've
Speaker 1: been meaning to look into this for a year now
Speaker 1: and I haven't. I'm saying it on the podcast maybe
Speaker 1: in hopes that somebody listening works for such an institution
Speaker 1: or know somebody who works for an institution like this,
Speaker 1: and perhaps we can connect our listeners and have people
Speaker 1: write us in who who have been sexually assaulted, who
Speaker 1: have sexually assaulted people, and keep their am minimity. Because again,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter who we are. I just we just
Speaker 1: I just I'm so like desperate in my head to
Speaker 1: get down to the the bottom of why this happens
Speaker 1: so much. I don't know what the fox is going on,
Speaker 1: and I that's that's all I really have to say
Speaker 1: about it, but I there has to be we have
Speaker 1: to do something. And so many things have come out
Speaker 1: of this podcast, like when we read emails before of
Speaker 1: like the girl in Alberta, Canada in the hockey league
Speaker 1: who was getting sexually rest and then a Huffington Post
Speaker 1: Canada picked it up and it was like, that's a
Speaker 1: that to me is beyond my wildest dreams of doing
Speaker 1: any comedy project that could I could that could domino
Speaker 1: effect into good things actually happening. So I want to
Speaker 1: make something good happen and make progress towards figuring out
Speaker 1: the solution to this rampant sexual assault thing. Because I
Speaker 1: I've said this is so many people I say it.
Speaker 1: I feel like every fucking day. I say, it seems
Speaker 1: to me that maybe of the human population has been
Speaker 1: raped or molested or sexual assaulted in their life, because
Speaker 1: that's how often I hear about it, and it's insane
Speaker 1: and we need to do something about it. Um, yeah
Speaker 1: and rant. But uh, I just wanted to put that
Speaker 1: out there because we've connected with a lot of interesting
Speaker 1: people through the podcast. So perhaps you work for an
Speaker 1: organization like the Kinsey Institute. Perhaps you're interested in doing
Speaker 1: a study. Uh. If you're listening and you have sexually
Speaker 1: assaulted somebody, I still I want to hear from you.
Speaker 1: Please make up fake make a fake email address. I
Speaker 1: don't care. I'm not trying to get anybody in trouble.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to understand why this happens. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people, Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: there are the people like Bill Cosby who plot, you know,
Speaker 1: and literally poison individuals. But I think the reason why
Speaker 1: it's such an epidemic, perhaps, uh, is not that people
Speaker 1: are you know, sitting at home wondering how they can
Speaker 1: sexually assault women, but just the overall view you know
Speaker 1: of women in society. We're treated as less, less valuable,
Speaker 1: less powerful and um, because of that, we're often treated
Speaker 1: like objects and so especially when it comes to not
Speaker 1: just men, and I know sexual assault happens to men
Speaker 1: as well, certainly trans people. That happens all the goddamn time. Um,
Speaker 1: and these are things that no one's talking about, but
Speaker 1: but specifically with women, just because we are treated as less,
Speaker 1: the meeker sex, the weaker sex, and men, especially in
Speaker 1: positions of power like Harvey Weinstein likes Luis C. K Um,
Speaker 1: especially in the entertain even business, you get into this
Speaker 1: habit of being able to get anything you want to
Speaker 1: get and that includes sex. And that is why things
Speaker 1: like sexual assaults uh go unreported or uncared about a
Speaker 1: lot of times they are reported and just no one
Speaker 1: cares because someone like Harvey wine Steen in the industry
Speaker 1: is considered to be more valuable than an intern or
Speaker 1: even like a like an actress who is not you know,
Speaker 1: top of the top. But it's happening to top of
Speaker 1: the top. It's happening to Angelina Julie, it's happening to
Speaker 1: Rose McGowan. Rose mcgawan, I do want to give our
Speaker 1: a shout out. She's been so wonderful, so outspoken and
Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say she's pretty much like
Speaker 1: ruined her acting career because she has dedicated her life,
Speaker 1: uh to speaking agout, speaking out against things like this.
Speaker 1: Her Twitter is amazing. I go to it every single
Speaker 1: day hashtag Rose Army. Definitely look to her for kind
Speaker 1: of really unfiltered entertainment news. I respect her so much. Um,
Speaker 1: I've always loved her even before all this, and now
Speaker 1: I love her even more. And so I think it's
Speaker 1: just kind of how we think about women in society
Speaker 1: and uh, what silences us because there's so many, so
Speaker 1: many of these assaults. And this is not victim blaming,
Speaker 1: but I do want to point out that unfortunately a
Speaker 1: lot of us have a price. And kudos to Rose
Speaker 1: now for saying, you know what, I don't have a
Speaker 1: price anymore. Nothing is more valuable than my body, myself, love,
Speaker 1: my integrity. Like that's that's so amazing because in a
Speaker 1: lot of these instances, I'm going to read a timeline
Speaker 1: that my friend Jenna Marauta, who works for Indie Wire,
Speaker 1: put together. I've known Jenni for years. We did improv
Speaker 1: comedy together, um, and she's turned into this really really
Speaker 1: fantastic journalist and she put together for Indie Wire. It's
Speaker 1: a still available a timeline of Harvey Weinstein's sexual assault
Speaker 1: and accusation ens. Uh, and it's constantly being updated with news.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously he was fired, which is great. Um,
Speaker 1: But what's interesting to me is the Harvey Weinstein story
Speaker 1: and how he handles things is not unlike how Donald
Speaker 1: Trump handles things. Because you'll see in this timeline he creates,
Speaker 1: he commits a sexual assault and then covers it over
Speaker 1: by making a donation to Gloria Steinum, are you by
Speaker 1: putting out a movie like The Hunting Ground He fucking
Speaker 1: produced that. These are all hard line seen things. So
Speaker 1: it's like, so it's like, I'm gonna do this one
Speaker 1: thing that's terrible, but I'm going to cover it up
Speaker 1: with either you know, Donald Trump hasn't done anything good.
Speaker 1: He's gonna cover it up with something that's less important,
Speaker 1: like about the NFL. I'm going to make this about
Speaker 1: the NFL instead of the fact that Puerto Rico is
Speaker 1: in shambles and I'm not doing anything about it. So
Speaker 1: this starts back in the seventy is with Harvey Weinstein. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I mean there are documented things. First of all.
Speaker 1: I worked on the other side of the entertainment business
Speaker 1: for a long time. It was not a secret that
Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein was like physically uh assaulting people that worked
Speaker 1: for him. I've heard stories of chairs and staplers being
Speaker 1: thrown at kids who worked for him, and it might
Speaker 1: say kids, I mean like in your twenties, not like
Speaker 1: sucking four year old uh and uh. In two thousand two,
Speaker 1: he publicly braided UH director Julie Taymore, who is a
Speaker 1: top director, at a screening of her film Freed To.
Speaker 1: So he just doesn't care about women. I think it's
Speaker 1: pretty safe to say that. So his for the first
Speaker 1: accuser was unknown. Probably in the seventies. A former Weinstein
Speaker 1: colleague told The New Yorker that Weinstein was you pended
Speaker 1: a professional hotel room meeting by changing into a bathroom
Speaker 1: and then allegedly raping her. So that's a rape right
Speaker 1: off the bat. To get to get things rolling. Then
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine he found Miramax with his brother
Speaker 1: Bob two. They released their first hit, The Secret Policeman's
Speaker 1: Other Ball. Never heard of it. I guess it wasn't
Speaker 1: that big of a hit. Um. The second accuser comes forward.
Speaker 1: Her name is Tony and Roberts. Uh. She's a college
Speaker 1: junior and what a surprise, aspiring actress aged twenty. Because
Speaker 1: in the entertainment business there is this common pattern of
Speaker 1: like casting couch behavior where young people a lot of
Speaker 1: times women who are hopeful are introduced to these men
Speaker 1: in power situations, and men use their power uh to
Speaker 1: get what they want from these women sexually. Um, so
Speaker 1: that happened? What? Uh? She was a frequent Uh? She
Speaker 1: Weinstein uh positive that she acts in his upcoming film
Speaker 1: and set up a meeting at his temporary interrust. So
Speaker 1: he's just making up places. Uh. Roberts, which is the girl?
Speaker 1: A future psychology professor found Weinstein naked in the bathtub
Speaker 1: and he encouraged her to disrobe because her character might
Speaker 1: have a topless scene. She didn't. I mean, there's so
Speaker 1: many instances of Harvey Weinstein inviting young attractive women or
Speaker 1: non attractive on that doesn't matter, to his hotel room
Speaker 1: where he's naked in a in a bathroom asking for massages. Uh.
Speaker 1: So it goes on and on. He releases sex lies
Speaker 1: and videotape, then ninties third accuser again unknown Because people
Speaker 1: are so ashamed for coming out, so they don't possibly
Speaker 1: want to put their names out there. Bob wyn Stein's
Speaker 1: former assistant, Kathy to Clessus, told The Times that a
Speaker 1: woman under her supervision quickly exited Mirrormax following an incident
Speaker 1: with Harvey Weinstein. The women later received a settlement, per
Speaker 1: The Times of sources. So he's already paying people off.
Speaker 1: And this is the early nineties. It is now two
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen that he's even paying for any of this
Speaker 1: ship with more than money. And you know, for someone
Speaker 1: like Harvey Weinstein, money doesn't matter. Early nineties. Fourth accuser.
Speaker 1: Now we're getting into names. We know. Rosanna Arquette, the
Speaker 1: Death the Desperately Seeking Susan actress uh told The New
Speaker 1: York The New Yorker and The Times that she was
Speaker 1: instructed to pick up a script at the Beverly Hills Hotel,
Speaker 1: but confused when the receptionists sent her upstairs. Weinstein met
Speaker 1: her in a bathroom, complaining of neck pain and quite
Speaker 1: requesting a massage. Arquett attempted to recommend a professional, but
Speaker 1: Weinstein allegedly placed her hand on his genitals. She later
Speaker 1: appealed in Mirramax backed film pulp Fiction. Fifth accuser Jessica
Speaker 1: Hines future Shaun of the Dead costar. Hines tweeted this
Speaker 1: week that her first film offer was retracted when she
Speaker 1: declined to screen test for Weinstein while wearing a bikini.
Speaker 1: Hines has deleted the tweet I'm sure because she was
Speaker 1: fucking threatened. Same year. Sixth accuser Lauren Madden. Former Mirramax
Speaker 1: employee Lauren Madden told The Times that Weinstein asked her
Speaker 1: for massages while they were at hotels in London and Dublin.
Speaker 1: Then he releases some more movies while Disney Company buys Mirramax.
Speaker 1: Seventh accuser Katherine Kendall. The Times reports that the actress
Speaker 1: was presented with mirror Maax scripts when she was twenty three.
Speaker 1: Then Weinstein invited her to a Manhattan screening near Lincoln Center,
Speaker 1: neglecting to mention that it just be the two of them.
Speaker 1: Weinstein made up an excuse to visit his apartment, where
Speaker 1: he put on a robe and solicited a massage. Kendall
Speaker 1: said no, so Weinstein took off his robe. Kendall said
Speaker 1: she was chased and blocked from leaving, and Weinstein ultimately
Speaker 1: asked to see her breasts. We're still so far from
Speaker 1: the present, and I'm gonna keep reading it coming in
Speaker 1: six years afore in and it seems that it's not
Speaker 1: really getting through to people's heads. There's so many problems
Speaker 1: here and in Hollywood. Oh and while we're here, before
Speaker 1: I get to this fucking next accuser, which is fucking
Speaker 1: Gwyneth Paltrow. Um, would I say people can get anything
Speaker 1: in the entertainment business that they want sexually that includes
Speaker 1: sex with children. Don't think it doesn't. I think Justin
Speaker 1: Bieber canceled his last tour because he saw some fucked
Speaker 1: up ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is not And
Speaker 1: I mean I've heard about male holly producers in fighting miners,
Speaker 1: male miners, kids boys. It's a d percent accurate. But
Speaker 1: be careful you start looking into it because you might
Speaker 1: end up dead. So seriously, if I end up dead,
Speaker 1: just know this is my promise to you. I did
Speaker 1: not commit suicide. I was murdered. Um, and don't you
Speaker 1: keep getting the eighth accuser one of Palto Palch to
Speaker 1: The Times on October tenth, two thousand seventeen, that, at
Speaker 1: age twenty two, after she'd been cast as the lead
Speaker 1: in mirror Max's Emma. Weinstein placed his hands on her
Speaker 1: and suggested massages in his peninsula Beverly Hill's bedroom during
Speaker 1: what was Austin Austin sensibly a work meeting, leaving her petrified.
Speaker 1: The Times corroborated that Brad Pitt, her then boyfriend, as
Speaker 1: Christina said, confronted Weinstein, who then screamed at her for
Speaker 1: a long time to demanding she stay silent, And then
Speaker 1: she said, I thought he was going to fire me.
Speaker 1: So it's like, I know you could easily say, well,
Speaker 1: why were these women, you know, allowing themselves uh to
Speaker 1: go through these things? Well never first the first lead
Speaker 1: role what no one should ever be treating anyone like this? Uh?
Speaker 1: And secondly, like this is a lot at Steak. Can
Speaker 1: I think there are very few people listening to this
Speaker 1: who can honestly say I would give up my dream
Speaker 1: just to put one bastard who touched my boobs behind bars.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying you should. I'm not saying you're
Speaker 1: a bad person for not But it's like, I think
Speaker 1: I think being fired is at Steak. I think we
Speaker 1: kind of all need to I think we kind of
Speaker 1: all need to step up and say in unison, enough
Speaker 1: is enough because when we all say it, then it's
Speaker 1: a lot more powerful. And like they're not going to
Speaker 1: fire all of us. You can't fire as is going
Speaker 1: to fire. For me to think about, it's hard to
Speaker 1: say if I didn't have this platform, which we're so
Speaker 1: lucky to have, where we can say whatever the funk
Speaker 1: we want with limited repercussions. Uh, would I take all
Speaker 1: these risks? Uh? For my whole career? Because you know,
Speaker 1: like Louis kres feople are scared about talking about Lousy
Speaker 1: kay is because you know they're getting threats when when
Speaker 1: tweets go out and then they are just missing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's because they're being presented with legal documents. Do you
Speaker 1: want to lose all the money you have? Do you
Speaker 1: want to leave your entire career? Most times I would
Speaker 1: have said I might have said no honestly before this,
Speaker 1: but I was nervous to bring up Louis Kay's name
Speaker 1: because to me, it's not about a witch hunt to
Speaker 1: have him banned for life. To me, it is about
Speaker 1: fucking figuring the ship out and stop letting people get
Speaker 1: away with it. If you can get away with it,
Speaker 1: you're gonna fucking do it, and our legal system has
Speaker 1: proven that you can get away with it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: fucking sick of it. And I'm nervous too. I'm never
Speaker 1: back talking about child sex triving you. I've never said
Speaker 1: I'm gonna end up dead like you. Don't think like
Speaker 1: some people him who have ended up dead lately really
Speaker 1: wanted to kill themselves. I don't think so. Do some research,
Speaker 1: uh so. September Accuses or Mirror Sorvino, a veteran of
Speaker 1: Mirror Max Pictures. Orvino, told The New Yorker that while
Speaker 1: they were at the Toronto International Film Festival promoted promoting
Speaker 1: Mighty Afroddity, Weinstein made her feel very uncomfortable, got by
Speaker 1: giving her shoulder massage, then chasing her. Weeks later, Weinstein
Speaker 1: called after midnight, alerting her that he was on route
Speaker 1: to her New York apartment. Sorvino got him too, got
Speaker 1: to him with a lie about her boyfriend coming over.
Speaker 1: She eventually relaid the story to a female Mirror Maax employee,
Speaker 1: who reacted with shock and horror. Um May accuser Judith
Speaker 1: goad Rush when the French actress was twenty four and
Speaker 1: her film Ridicule was acquired by Mirror Maax. She told
Speaker 1: The Times that she attended breakfast with Weinstein at the
Speaker 1: con Film Festival. Weinstein unsuccessfully asked her for a massage.
Speaker 1: Guy loves massages. He needs icy hot damn it. Then
Speaker 1: allegedly pushed himself against her and removed her sweater before
Speaker 1: she fled. Seven eleven accuser Ashley Judd, while filming Kissed
Speaker 1: the Girls for Mirramax. Act press Ashley Judd told The
Speaker 1: Times she believes she was attending a breakfast with Weinstein
Speaker 1: at the Beverly Hills peninsa hotel. That hotel is to
Speaker 1: look out for him because he seems to be staying
Speaker 1: there a lot, only to be sent to his suite,
Speaker 1: where she found him clad in a bathrobe. Weinstein give
Speaker 1: Judge Judd a massage massage, then asked her to watch
Speaker 1: him shower. UH twelve accuser one of my favorites, Asia Argento,
Speaker 1: the Italian actress and director then one, told The New
Speaker 1: Yorker that one of Weinstein's producer colleagues invited her to
Speaker 1: a Mirror Maax hosted party at Hotel Dukap Eden Rock
Speaker 1: near Kahn. In actuality, there was no party, Argenta was
Speaker 1: let upstairs to Weinstein, which the producer refutes. After discussing
Speaker 1: her past roles, Weinstein briefly exited, then came back in
Speaker 1: a bathroom carry lotion. He convinced Argento to give him
Speaker 1: a massage, and then he allegedly raised her skirt and
Speaker 1: performed oral sex on her as she protested, which is rape,
Speaker 1: an event she later mind for her film Scarlet Dive. Uh,
Speaker 1: and that that was posted. Um. Asia Argento and Rose
Speaker 1: McGown are really good friends. They've been talking on Twitter
Speaker 1: a lot, and she reenacted in her film Scarlet Diva.
Speaker 1: She had them replay the whole fucking Harvey Weinstein incidents.
Speaker 1: So they've been trying to talk for years. A big
Speaker 1: fat man wanting to eat you out. She said, it's
Speaker 1: a scary fairy tale. Are gentle? Later start in b
Speaker 1: Monkey nine drama distributed by Miramax, and she said she
Speaker 1: carried out a consensual sexual relationship with Weinstein for five years.
Speaker 1: So people getting all kinds of fucked up mentally from this,
Speaker 1: that's common. And can I just interject really quick to
Speaker 1: say I want everybody who's listening to this to know this,
Speaker 1: this is a scientific fact. Look it up. Uh A
Speaker 1: lot of times when a man or woman is raped,
Speaker 1: they will their genitals will react in survival mode. So
Speaker 1: a lot of times when a woman is raped, she
Speaker 1: will get wet. That is a very confusing thing to
Speaker 1: people who haven't been through it and to people who
Speaker 1: have been through it. A specially to people who have
Speaker 1: been through it, that is going to create a fucking
Speaker 1: avalanche of mental instability and confusion. Men, when they get
Speaker 1: raped a lot of times will get an erection. That
Speaker 1: does not mean they wanted it. Okay, if you got
Speaker 1: raped and you're a man and you've got an direction
Speaker 1: that is your body's defense mechanism to just get it
Speaker 1: over with. It's very dark and bleak and sad, and
Speaker 1: it breaks my fucking heart. But I just wanted everyone
Speaker 1: to know that because uh, no one seems to be
Speaker 1: talking about that fact. That fact, and that can be
Speaker 1: misconstrued and used against victims and it should never be.
Speaker 1: And I also think, I mean from a rape victims
Speaker 1: survivors that I've talked to you, there is something like
Speaker 1: with consensual sex after being raped. Uh, there's like a
Speaker 1: it's a it's a power dynamic going on there. So
Speaker 1: it's like someone took your power away from you, and
Speaker 1: what can you do. You can't undo a rape, but
Speaker 1: maybe the only thing you can do is to is
Speaker 1: to go back and then consentually have sex with that
Speaker 1: person to say I've regained back some of my power,
Speaker 1: some of my on quote dignity that people is people
Speaker 1: think is lost during a rape, which you know, society
Speaker 1: needs to stop perpetuating that. I know two women who
Speaker 1: have done that. They went back to their rapers in
Speaker 1: an attempt to gain mental control and feel like they're
Speaker 1: not their soul has not been crushed, and they're trying
Speaker 1: to save their own soul by having sexual intercourse consentually
Speaker 1: with their rapists. That is another thing that people need
Speaker 1: to just know happens. Yeah, absolutely, um, And so sorry
Speaker 1: if this is long, star, if you're tired of it, um,
Speaker 1: but I think it's really important. And maybe right by
Speaker 1: now you've gotten up at your computer and your googling this.
Speaker 1: Maybe by now you've gotten up and done something about
Speaker 1: it other than complaining on social media. But yeah, this
Speaker 1: is important. Just even if you stop listening to this
Speaker 1: podcast and then just have a better understanding, a better
Speaker 1: knowledge know that this is going on, that works too.
Speaker 1: Just we were just a lot of us are walking
Speaker 1: around only with the information that is kind of fed
Speaker 1: to us by these carefully curated sources. And that's not okay,
Speaker 1: because this is how this fucking happens. Anyway, January, we're
Speaker 1: still tech years and from today thirteenth accused or Rose McGowan,
Speaker 1: my fucking favorite actress, Rose McGowan then twenty three. And
Speaker 1: what's the commonality between between all these women. They're very
Speaker 1: young and they haven't started their careers yet. Cool So
Speaker 1: has an uncomfortable encounter with Weinstein in a hotel room
Speaker 1: while attending the Sundance Film Festival, again one of the
Speaker 1: most prestigious film festivals in the world. According to The Times,
Speaker 1: she soon received a hundred thousand dollar settlements. And you
Speaker 1: know what, it sucks. It sucks that we can be
Speaker 1: bought out as humans. But I completely understand it because
Speaker 1: I'm sure beyond that financial settlement there was threats to
Speaker 1: her career and probably even threats to her safety. Uh.
Speaker 1: In October two thousand sixteen, McGowan tweeted that she had
Speaker 1: been raped by a studio head. Good for her, uh
Speaker 1: for saying it, not for being raped. March Mirror Max
Speaker 1: Win's best picture Oscar for the English Pace Sin. December,
Speaker 1: the Mirror Maax releases Good Will Hunting. No one notices
Speaker 1: that you're fucking raping people if you're putting out great movie.
Speaker 1: That's so true. Fall fourteenth accuser Zelda Perkins. The Times
Speaker 1: reported that London based Mirrormax assistant Zelda Perkins, then twenty five,
Speaker 1: challenged Weinstein about his requests and comments in hotels, particularly
Speaker 1: towards one of her female co workers. Then Mirramax reportedly
Speaker 1: sent attorney Steve Hatunsky to arrange a settlement with Perkins.
Speaker 1: I bet Late fifteen accuser Angelina Joe Lee. In an
Speaker 1: email to The Times quoted in an October tenth, two
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen story, Jolina wrote that she had a bad
Speaker 1: experience with Weinstein around the time Mirror Maax distributed her
Speaker 1: film Playing by Heart. She gave no additional details, except
Speaker 1: that she chose never to work with him again and
Speaker 1: warn others when they did good for her. This behavior
Speaker 1: towards women in any field, any country, is unacceptable. March
Speaker 1: Mirrormax films win ten oscars uh August, Weinstein puts Paltrow
Speaker 1: on the cover of Talk magazine. I believe that's the
Speaker 1: one that she talked about that was bondage. Yep, that
Speaker 1: is the bondage one that made her feel uncomfortable. But
Speaker 1: she said there were certain favors that Weinstein asked me
Speaker 1: to do that I felt were not exploitative, uh, but
Speaker 1: not necessarily as great for me as they were for him.
Speaker 1: Interesting two thousands sixteen accuser Romala Garray, when she was eighteen,
Speaker 1: English actress was summoned to Weinstein's hotel room at The
Speaker 1: Savoy in London. Weinstein greeted her in a bathroom for
Speaker 1: an otherwise mundane business meeting. She eventually co started dirty
Speaker 1: dancing Havna Knight's. Uh, well, I guess you didn't do
Speaker 1: as much. That's why she only got Havanna Knights. That's
Speaker 1: You're probably right, though, you dude. Christ Christann Chrystally It
Speaker 1: tweeted out yesterday to fucking cracked me up. And this
Speaker 1: is when comedy comedians save my fucking soul in these
Speaker 1: times where I just want to rip my head out.
Speaker 1: Christal Lea tweeted, Hey, Harvey Weinstein, I'll suck your dick
Speaker 1: if you'll put me in Spy Kids seven and I
Speaker 1: was like I love you, Chris. That was hilarious and uh,
Speaker 1: thank you for making me laugh in such dark time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't care. That's gonna be a two hour intro
Speaker 1: and give. And when you say, oh ship, why was
Speaker 1: the guys we fucked intro this uh this long this week?
Speaker 1: It's because so many people were sexually assaulted by Harvey Weinstein.
Speaker 1: That's the answer that you can tell everybody. Why was
Speaker 1: I laid to work? I was in my car listening
Speaker 1: to the numerous sexual assauls committed by Harvey Weinstein before
Speaker 1: I came into work. Thank you. Early two thousands, seventeenth
Speaker 1: accuser Heather Graham and an article she penned for Variety,
Speaker 1: The Boogie Nights actress said Weinstein expressed desire to put
Speaker 1: her in a Mirrormax film One day at his office.
Speaker 1: He told Graham, then in her early thirties, that his
Speaker 1: wife allowed him to have extramarital affairs when he was traveling.
Speaker 1: There was no explicit mentioned that to the star in
Speaker 1: one that these are quotes are bad. Uh. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're saying, Heather Graham, but anyway,
Speaker 1: it was bad. Uh. Then they released Chicago two thousand
Speaker 1: to two thousand three, eighteenth accuser Dawn Dunning, after donning
Speaker 1: an actress slash student slash waitress then twenty three, met
Speaker 1: Weinstein at a nightclub per The Times, and it wasn't
Speaker 1: in a row. He offered her a screen in test
Speaker 1: meals and Broadway tickets for herself and her boyfriend. Before
Speaker 1: one meeting in the Manhattan Hotels restaurant, Weinstein's assistant dispatched
Speaker 1: her to his suite. Weinstein was wearing a bathrobe. There
Speaker 1: is the roa, and there was the rope, was surrounded
Speaker 1: by what he said were film contracts meant for Dunning
Speaker 1: only if she had a three way with him. When
Speaker 1: Dunning left, Weinstein became enraged. Two thousand four nineteenth accuser
Speaker 1: Lucia Evans, then a college junior. Evans told The New
Speaker 1: Yorker that she gave Weinstein her phone number after they
Speaker 1: met at New York City's chip Riani Upstairs in summer
Speaker 1: two thousand four. He and an assistant proceeded to call
Speaker 1: her numerous times requesting meetings, and she finally agreed to
Speaker 1: see him and a female casting executive at Miramax's Tribeca
Speaker 1: office And do you understand, Harvey Weinstein, before all this
Speaker 1: ship asking you to go to a meeting, and you
Speaker 1: want to be an actress, This is all your dreams
Speaker 1: coming through movies. This meet person has facilitated happening are
Speaker 1: amazing movies. Regardless of how big of a piece of
Speaker 1: ship cunt head he is, these are this you. This
Speaker 1: is not something that you people would turn down. Maybe
Speaker 1: even though I just just know that I have so
Speaker 1: sick of the victim blaming bullshit that I'm I've just
Speaker 1: I try to I try to get into those victim
Speaker 1: blamers heads before they have a chance to speak. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean this goes out back to we We talked
Speaker 1: about this in our ted talk a little bit, like
Speaker 1: what am I worth? What is my body worth? And
Speaker 1: it's like, I you know, it's very like a devil
Speaker 1: and an angel coming to you, and it's saying, here's
Speaker 1: everything that you've ever wanted. All you have to do
Speaker 1: is kind of like give up this freedom to your body?
Speaker 1: Do you take it? I can't fault people either way?
Speaker 1: Really No. Instead, she was so back to this, yeah
Speaker 1: her evans. Instead, she was escorted to Weinstein in an
Speaker 1: abandoned office filled with food, containers and Jim Rovement. He
Speaker 1: told her about two scripts and said she could perhaps
Speaker 1: model on Project Runway, one of his television shows, if
Speaker 1: she died. If she dieted, then he allegedly took out
Speaker 1: his penis and forced her to give him oral sex.
Speaker 1: So then that's that's grape. Although although she attempted to
Speaker 1: fight back, she said he overpowered me. Only then did
Speaker 1: she meet with Weinstein's female colleague, who pursued her professionally
Speaker 1: for a time. Two thousand four, Weinstein divorces one of
Speaker 1: his million wives. They had three kids. September two thousand five,
Speaker 1: the Weinstein's formed the Weinstein Company two thousand seven. Twentieth
Speaker 1: accuser Laurence Savan, a woman who was then working at
Speaker 1: a local cable news anchor, came forward in October six,
Speaker 1: two seventeen, to recount an ordeal that Weinstein allegedly put
Speaker 1: her through at a Manhattan Cuban restaurant. Savan told The
Speaker 1: Huffington Post that Weinstein first gave her a private tour
Speaker 1: of Cafe Socialista, where he was an investor. Weinstein proceeded
Speaker 1: to dismiss the nearby staff, and when his attempted kiss
Speaker 1: was reject did he masturbated in front of her ejaculating
Speaker 1: into a potted plant? Nice shout out to you, Donna.
Speaker 1: Karenna jerk off into your fucking ugly ass puke color clothes. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's a ship. December two thousand seven, he marries another
Speaker 1: chick named Georgina Chapman h. January twenty one. Accuser uh.
Speaker 1: Louisette Geiss, an actress with sitcom credits like the King
Speaker 1: of Queens and Two and a Half Men Guys, said
Speaker 1: in October tenth press conference that she dined with Weinstein
Speaker 1: in Utah during the Sundance Film Festival, hoping to pitch
Speaker 1: a screenplay Haven't we All. Once the restaurant closed, the
Speaker 1: meeting continued in Weinstein's festival office. A jay to his
Speaker 1: hotel room. About a half hour later, he allegedly returned
Speaker 1: from the bathroom naked except for a bathroom that was
Speaker 1: open in the front. Fucking row. Guys said he got
Speaker 1: in a tub, a hot tub, and asked her to
Speaker 1: watch him masturbate. She attempted to leave, and Weinstein pulled
Speaker 1: her into the bathroom, wanting a witness as he pleasured himself.
Speaker 1: Attorney Gloria Alred, mother to fellow attorney Lisa Bloom, who
Speaker 1: advised Weinstein for the first three days after the Times article,
Speaker 1: broke is now representing guys, So that's cool. Um. Then
Speaker 1: they released another great thing. Uh. September two thousand nine,
Speaker 1: Weinstein supports Roman Polanski in an OpEd for The Independent.
Speaker 1: That's interesting surprised. Second accuser Emma de Con. Weinstein and
Speaker 1: the French actress, then in her early thirties, met at
Speaker 1: the Con Film Festival. Months later, they dined at a
Speaker 1: Paris hotel Rits. She accompanying him to his room to
Speaker 1: fetch a book quote unquote, touch me a book, and
Speaker 1: Weinstein allegedly returned from the bathroom naked and with an erection.
Speaker 1: No Ro then asked her to lie on the bed.
Speaker 1: It was like a hunter with a wild animal, she said.
Speaker 1: De Coon's declined and left. Then two thousand ten, uh,
Speaker 1: Weinstein Company releases The King's Speech. Two thousand eleven, twenty
Speaker 1: accuser Jessica Barth. When the Ted actress was in her
Speaker 1: early thirties, she met Weinstein at a Golden Globes party.
Speaker 1: According to the New Yorker, Weinstein later invited her to
Speaker 1: talk business at the Beverly Hills, Peninsula, asking that she
Speaker 1: come to his room, where he then asked for her
Speaker 1: to massage his nude body. As Bart exited, Weinstein said
Speaker 1: she needed to lose weight, and also promised to connect
Speaker 1: her with a female executive at the Weinstein Company. You
Speaker 1: won't let me rape you. You're a fat whore. Yeah.
Speaker 1: February two thousand eleven, Michael Moore sued the Weinstein Company
Speaker 1: because they sold profits from his film Fahrenheit Not eleven.
Speaker 1: November two thousand seven. The Weinstein Company releases the Artist
Speaker 1: Proximately two thousand twelve. Twenty four accuser Kara she sell Avine.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, God, another another these. I'm learning that these
Speaker 1: are huge names. Jesus fucking now. The English model and
Speaker 1: actress wrote in uh an Instagram post on October eleventh
Speaker 1: that she met with Weinstein in a hotel to discuss
Speaker 1: a project after he'd advised unsolicited uh that she'd never
Speaker 1: find acting success if she was a lesbian. Great, now
Speaker 1: we're getting into the lgbt Q community. Perfect They went
Speaker 1: to Weinstein's room or another woman waited, and Weinstein asked
Speaker 1: them to kiss day Levine declined, and when she eventually
Speaker 1: left Weinstein allegedly tried to kiss her. She co started
Speaker 1: Tulip Fever, a two thousand seventeen UH Weinstein Company release.
Speaker 1: April twenty twelve Time honors Weinstein. He is named on
Speaker 1: the one of the magazines A hundred Most Influential People
Speaker 1: I bet Uh. November twenty twelve, Weinstein Company releases silver
Speaker 1: linings playbook Cool. Two thousand fourteen, accuser Emily Nestor per
Speaker 1: The Times and The New Yorker at the Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: Peninsula against someone checked his room there. Weinstein allegedly told
Speaker 1: Emily Nestor, who tempted, Who tempt for one day at
Speaker 1: the Weinstein Company, that he would catapult her career if
Speaker 1: she did sexual favors for him, as he'd done with others.
Speaker 1: He offered to be her boyfriend and give the twenty
Speaker 1: five year old job at Weinstein Company's London office. Nestor
Speaker 1: said Weinstein also bragged about never drugging women for sex
Speaker 1: quote like Bill Cosby. UH. The Weinstein Company employees alerted
Speaker 1: management of what had occurred. The New Yorker reported that
Speaker 1: the Weinstein Company executive Irwin Writer, acknowledged to Nestor via
Speaker 1: LinkedIn that quote mistreatment of women was commonplace in their
Speaker 1: company culture. Two thousand fifteen, twenty six accuser unknown. Former
Speaker 1: Weinstein Company executive Lauren O'Connor sent a memo to her
Speaker 1: superiors that covered two years worth of allegations she had
Speaker 1: heard against Weinstein. Examples cited range from an assistant who
Speaker 1: was ordered to give him a massage at the Beverly
Speaker 1: Hills Peninsula while he was naked, to those who carried
Speaker 1: out turned down duty when Weinstein rose and went to bed.
Speaker 1: Months prior to The Times reports that a young woman
Speaker 1: had quit the company after what she thought were Weinstein's dalliances.
Speaker 1: Apparently Bob Weinstein is concerned by O'Connor's memo, but no
Speaker 1: internal investigation followed. O'Connor settled with Harvey Weinstein and withdrew
Speaker 1: her complaints, and, in his words to The Times, parted amicably,
Speaker 1: although her assertions had been quote off base. February two
Speaker 1: thousand fifteen. This is after twenty six accusations of sexual assaults,
Speaker 1: including some very clear rapes. The Weinstein Company releases The
Speaker 1: Hunting Ground, a documentary that raised awareness for the sexual
Speaker 1: assault epidemic at colleges March two thousand fifteen seven. Accuser
Speaker 1: Ambra Batillana Gutierre's, The twenty two year old Filipina Italian model,
Speaker 1: told police that Weinstein asked if her breast, real grabbed them,
Speaker 1: reached up her skirt, and attempted to kiss her in
Speaker 1: his third floor Tribeca Film Center office. New York Daily
Speaker 1: News reported that Weinstein did not deny these events in
Speaker 1: a phone call the paper facilitated between him and Batillana Gutierres.
Speaker 1: The New York Departments Special Victims Division then had her
Speaker 1: wear a wire to meet with Weinstein at the Tribeca
Speaker 1: Grand Hotel. Audio eventually released by The New Yorker, Oh,
Speaker 1: I think that's the one that's been going around that
Speaker 1: we heard. During their conversation, Weinstein asked Battalana Gutierrez to
Speaker 1: shower with him. Manhattan's district attorney did not charge Weinstein,
Speaker 1: who told his company's board members that he had been
Speaker 1: set up. Nevertheless, sources asserted to the Times that he
Speaker 1: did pay Batillana Gutierres a settlement. April two, fifteen, to
Speaker 1: Famer publishes an expose about Weinstein's personal life, um and uh.
Speaker 1: This included things like inviting a model to his office
Speaker 1: and proposing a threesome with himself an actress Olivia Wild.
Speaker 1: The article also mentioned that Weinstein likes to greet women
Speaker 1: while wearing bathrobes. You know ship Uh okay, so that
Speaker 1: happens oh. June. June Weinstein donation honors Gloria Steinem's legacy.
Speaker 1: The H. Weinstein Family Foundation gave Ers University a hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for a chairmanship in its Department of Women's
Speaker 1: and Gender Studies, named after feminist icon Gloria Steinu. October five,
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen, The New York Times publishes Harvey Weinstein
Speaker 1: paid off sexual harassment accusers for decades. So this is
Speaker 1: the article that started at all. Uh. October six, he
Speaker 1: took an indefinitely from the Weinstein Company. October seven, attorney
Speaker 1: Lisa Bloom announced that she will no longer serve as
Speaker 1: Weinstein's advisor. Good for you, Thank god, thank you. October eight,
Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein is fired from the Weinstein Company. October nine,
Speaker 1: Weinstein's email to Hollywood CEO s is leaked on Twitter.
Speaker 1: The Hollywood reporters Janisman published an email Weinstein reportedly sent
Speaker 1: to entertainment executives the previous day, requesting letters of support
Speaker 1: that might save his job. Quote, I am desperate for
Speaker 1: your help. Also in October nine, an anonymous source told
Speaker 1: Variety that Weinstein had attempted to thwart the investigation efforts
Speaker 1: of John Kiernan, a lawyer high aired by the Weinstein company,
Speaker 1: following the Time story. October tenth, The New York The
Speaker 1: New Yorker publishes from aggressive Overtures to sexual Assault, Harvey
Speaker 1: Weinstein's accusers tell their stories. That's a piece you should
Speaker 1: check out. And I think that's it that brings us
Speaker 1: to present day. So I don't know how fucking long
Speaker 1: it just took me to get through that nine minutes
Speaker 1: and five seconds. There was stuff before that. So I
Speaker 1: think that I think that if it takes uh ten seconds,
Speaker 1: if it takes thirty minutes to go through someone's history
Speaker 1: of sexual assault, that is too long. And I think
Speaker 1: I sometimes I look at articles and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: think this is too long to read. I'm a fast talker,
Speaker 1: but is this I didn't think that was too long
Speaker 1: because number one, my friend Jenna spent a fucking long
Speaker 1: ast time researching that. Uh and uh, just we're sitting here.
Speaker 1: We co host a podcast that talks about this thing,
Speaker 1: these things all the time, and half that ship we
Speaker 1: didn't know. So I think it's important that we not
Speaker 1: just like kind of like skim through these articles that
Speaker 1: that is so much, so so much one thing, one
Speaker 1: thing that people can do. Do not support, do not
Speaker 1: support these people. Donna Karen came out and her fucking
Speaker 1: shitty ass clothing line. She's a fashion designer. If you
Speaker 1: don't know she is, congratulations because it doesn't matter, but uh,
Speaker 1: you probably do. D K and Why and she came
Speaker 1: out in uh in support of Harvey Weinstein and said
Speaker 1: that alluded to they were being teases the women, or
Speaker 1: that was what they were wearing. The women are asking
Speaker 1: for a thing, yes, and uh so I am not
Speaker 1: that I ever would be called dead in a d
Speaker 1: K and Why thing. Maybe if I got at a
Speaker 1: thrift store back when I was poor, I certainly will
Speaker 1: never buy her clothing. And because I don't want to
Speaker 1: support I don't want to support rapists. I don't want
Speaker 1: to support people who support rapists because I'm at a
Speaker 1: fucking loss as what the funk to do? Bill Cosby
Speaker 1: everybody knew he was a fucking rapist for many years
Speaker 1: Hannibal Burrist makes a joke about it that he's been
Speaker 1: doing that fucking bit for months. I've seen him do
Speaker 1: that bit swell before somebody at his stand up show
Speaker 1: recorded it, put it on the internet, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the media has a narrative Hannibal Burris
Speaker 1: accuses Bill Cosby's sexual assault. No fuck you. Bill Cosby
Speaker 1: was outed as a rapist long before Hannibal made a
Speaker 1: joke about it. Had been also making jokes about Bill years.
Speaker 1: So it's a document and I'm sitting I we were
Speaker 1: with we were we had a video shoot yesterday and
Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, like, I like people in
Speaker 1: the comedy Commednity, like we were saying Lucy k Like,
Speaker 1: I'm just like he's everyone. It's a known thing comedians. No,
Speaker 1: he has done these has done things that are not okay.
Speaker 1: Is sexually assaulted people. And again it is not my
Speaker 1: My intention is never to I want to make sure
Speaker 1: these people don't get away with it. So, yes, being
Speaker 1: fired or having having things taken away from you, to percussion,
Speaker 1: to fucking therapy, that's what I want. And uh, and
Speaker 1: so it's it's it's less to me about uh, who
Speaker 1: is doing it. More So, how the fuck can we
Speaker 1: figure this out and get a grip on it and
Speaker 1: get a step ahead of it. I don't know, But
Speaker 1: it's this is a list of a ton of people
Speaker 1: that you know, actresses who I'm sure many of you love, respect,
Speaker 1: no follow their work. But it's like for all those actresses,
Speaker 1: think of all their friends, all the other people in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: all these huge names who knew about this. Brad Pitt
Speaker 1: knew about this. And again it is not Brad Pitt's
Speaker 1: singular responsibility, but just like, but everyone really would risk
Speaker 1: losing ship if he talked about and that's what he
Speaker 1: would knew about it. But it's like we we think,
Speaker 1: we think that the Brad Pitts and the Angelina Jolis
Speaker 1: are the most power people, powerful people in Hollywood. And
Speaker 1: that's not Sue, that's a misconception. Yeah, are the studio
Speaker 1: has the people who can give you the roles, the
Speaker 1: people who can put up millions of dollars for a movie.
Speaker 1: Because as rich as um the actors are, it's usually
Speaker 1: the studio heads and the suits as they call them,
Speaker 1: uh that are the most powerful and and the most
Speaker 1: wealthy and truly can make or break your career, because
Speaker 1: guess what, there's only one high Harvey Weinstein. There's basically
Speaker 1: a million Angelina Jolies. Even though that's you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's a it's a different thing. It is just like
Speaker 1: actors are, a diamond doesn't. And that's how people feel
Speaker 1: about like women too, especially like young beautiful women who
Speaker 1: are willing to do anything for a role, which is
Speaker 1: seemingly who Harvey was taking the most advantage of in
Speaker 1: these situations. Um So yeah, now you know, and hopefully
Speaker 1: you can do something help us figure out what the
Speaker 1: funk do we do? Guys? What do we do? I
Speaker 1: don't know, email, I don't know. But we've we've really wonderful, amazing,
Speaker 1: beautiful things have come out of talking about things honestly
Speaker 1: on the podcast and reading other people's stories. So maybe
Speaker 1: this is one of them. Maybe this is one of
Speaker 1: those instances. Let's let's band together and figure this out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of the conversations that have
Speaker 1: surfaced are like, Yeah, at the oscars, we sit and
Speaker 1: we watch as all these people come up and go
Speaker 1: on diet tribes against Donald Trump, and yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: dirt pag piece of ship. But unfortunately there was a
Speaker 1: dirt bag piece of ship in the room with them
Speaker 1: that they certainly could have done more to stop. Like
Speaker 1: Hollywood has the power to stop Harvey Weinstein, Hollywood, as
Speaker 1: we see, does not have the power to stop Donald Trump. Um.
Speaker 1: And so we can't pick and choose who are who
Speaker 1: are monsters based on what they can do for us,
Speaker 1: I think is the thesis of this. So take a
Speaker 1: deep breath, and we probably this interview is really his interviews,
Speaker 1: mad good. Everyone who turned in from tuned in from
Speaker 1: Brilliant Adience is probably like, oh, well, you know what,
Speaker 1: just another day the guys we fucked podcast. Everybody Remember
Speaker 1: when we just wanted to be comedians? That was Remember
Speaker 1: why I just wanted to write a good This makes
Speaker 1: bombing seem like a fucking walk in the park. Alright, guys,
Speaker 1: you've seen him on MTV s Guy Code. You've seen
Speaker 1: him well, you've heard him on The Brilliant Idiots as
Speaker 1: one of the co hosts along with our good friend
Speaker 1: Shar Shar. He's a stand up comedian with a new
Speaker 1: special out on his YouTube channel called four for One.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, please give a warm welcome to Andrew Sholes.
Speaker 1: I grew up with David. I grew up with Stop.
Speaker 1: I grew up with Clash the Beetles in the Road.
Speaker 1: I grew up with lou Strong. I grew up with Radio.
Speaker 1: I grew up with His Happen and The Doors and
Speaker 1: Floyd and The Grateful Game. There were no women in
Speaker 1: my favorite bands, No fucking women at all. There were
Speaker 1: no women in my favorite bands when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: when I was smile, there were no women in my
Speaker 1: favorite bands, no fucking wind men at all. I know
Speaker 1: women in my favorite thing when I was growing up,
Speaker 1: when I was small. Oh, unless you guys know some ship,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think. No, I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think we know. We're here with Andrew Shawls. How
Speaker 1: you doing hello? So there's nothing that you won't talk
Speaker 1: about when with regards to sex. No, do you remember
Speaker 1: the time you ever first you first got a boner?
Speaker 1: I do a bit about this on stage, about like
Speaker 1: guys remembering the first time they were ever aroused by
Speaker 1: woman's body. My first boner? I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that. Do you remember remember bonus? Do
Speaker 1: you remember the first time you saw a woman's body
Speaker 1: and got excited. Um no, I don't remember that either,
Speaker 1: but distinctly right now, I remember I'd was working in
Speaker 1: a pizza shop. My folks had a beach house and
Speaker 1: there's this pizza shop I worked out. I was like
Speaker 1: a delivery boy. And there was my friends older sister,
Speaker 1: Sandro's older sister, and I was probably like twelve or
Speaker 1: something like that, and she was much older. And what
Speaker 1: she would do is sit on my lap. And she
Speaker 1: was probably older. It's some weird like I was taking
Speaker 1: advantage of and fully okay with it. And she would
Speaker 1: sit on my lap and I would get huge boners
Speaker 1: and I would like flip them up, and then she
Speaker 1: must have known, you know, yeah, yeah, wow, were you
Speaker 1: wearing sweatpants or I was wearing like like swim trunks.
Speaker 1: That's so often we're like older women do stuff to
Speaker 1: young guys and like so they've also been like women,
Speaker 1: but the guys like usually never have. We're totally okay
Speaker 1: with it. Yeah, it's uh sometimes sometimes okay with that,
Speaker 1: and we have to make sure you're okay with what
Speaker 1: guys aren't like a straight That's that's why I say, like, um,
Speaker 1: like there's no raider privilege, then pretty girl privilege because
Speaker 1: you can get away with pedophilia. M yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: why I'm so blessed to be attractive. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: you could, you could. You know there are women that
Speaker 1: sleep with This happens all the time. Teachers sleep with kids,
Speaker 1: okay with it. I hear about slept with kids and
Speaker 1: he's sucking a jail for Yeah, absolutely, well those kids,
Speaker 1: I mean with sixteen year old girls. He's in jail.
Speaker 1: Teachers sleep with sixteen year old boys every month. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I always see a story about an older female teacher
Speaker 1: with younger and we're like, I wish I had teachers
Speaker 1: like you know, there's this whole that'd be cool mentality.
Speaker 1: A few guys who were taking advantage of by an
Speaker 1: older woman and they were they were like half okay
Speaker 1: with it, in half like I was uncomfortable, but I
Speaker 1: didn't know how to say anything. But who I'm not
Speaker 1: naming name. I don't believe that uncomfortable how But also
Speaker 1: that's not because maybe oh yeah, that's hebophelia and they're
Speaker 1: very different, and I know it's not, but but I mean,
Speaker 1: there is there is a moral difference between fucking a
Speaker 1: sixteen year old and sucking a four year old. There is,
Speaker 1: and that's why there's two different words. Things like I
Speaker 1: don't think if you're a sixteen year old that you
Speaker 1: have like a deep mental disorder. If you have if
Speaker 1: you're sucking a four ye old, then you have a
Speaker 1: deep mental agree the sixteen year old is just like
Speaker 1: lapse and judgment. Ye, sure, sure, sure, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: They're totally different things. That being said, nobody called Jared
Speaker 1: a heavy feeling, right, And actually I didn't even know.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know until now that the girls were
Speaker 1: not not that I'm like putting my blessing on the
Speaker 1: relationship now and that still wasn't okay, But it makes
Speaker 1: me feel a little more comfortable when I'm consuming a
Speaker 1: six inch turkeys up now. Irony is that if he
Speaker 1: lived in Canada, he'd still be the spokesperson. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: because his legal sixteen. Oh anybody can suck a sixteen
Speaker 1: year old in Spain. So so the crazy thing I
Speaker 1: wanted to funk when I was fourteen, I just didn't
Speaker 1: think that the age isn't really about like if your
Speaker 1: body is ready, it's about if your mind is ready
Speaker 1: to be taking advantage of? Or are you ready to say? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But are you ready to make it? Are you ready
Speaker 1: to decision? Are you horny? Everybody's horning fourteen? That's why
Speaker 1: we I got my dett fourteen, right. It wasn't because
Speaker 1: I was thirsty, because I was horny, right, Like, that's right,
Speaker 1: But isn't thirsty and horny the same things? Thirty for
Speaker 1: some pussy? That's that's what I wanted, right, I wanted
Speaker 1: to get head. So I'm fanagled that maybe I was fifteen,
Speaker 1: But like horny, this starts young, right, like married it
Speaker 1: what happens even younger with women, Like I heard young
Speaker 1: girls their masturbate without even knowing it. Yeah, he's like,
Speaker 1: I mean rubbing up on stuff. Yeah. And then you live,
Speaker 1: You live a couple of years of your early childhood
Speaker 1: thinking oh sho, am I gonna get pregnant because someone
Speaker 1: tell me about it? And just every day you go
Speaker 1: to the bathroom and you just wait for the day
Speaker 1: that you'll somehow find out you're pregnant. I don't know how.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's blood on the toilet paper. You don't know
Speaker 1: anything works, Oh, but you're coming and you assume you're
Speaker 1: gonna pregnant from Maybe I'm just speaking from personal experience.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's people like you that I guess what
Speaker 1: we're doing is like we just go eighteen is an
Speaker 1: age where adults can kick game to women. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, you've never had an eight kick game
Speaker 1: to me, and it's it's kind of fun. I mean no,
Speaker 1: I mean, when you turn eighteen, a thirty year old
Speaker 1: dude can kick game to you, and we're okay with it.
Speaker 1: But what seven team? We're like, chill, she's not ready
Speaker 1: yet exactly, And that's not that doesn't make any sense. Age.
Speaker 1: We need to unleashoot the wolves. The wolves, and this
Speaker 1: is why women live in fear. I get it, I
Speaker 1: get it, I get it. My point, but it's like
Speaker 1: a woman is not a wolf to a sixteen year
Speaker 1: old boy. I guess you would call it a few
Speaker 1: women predators. They're not they're not as threatening, they're not
Speaker 1: as whatever exactly Like you you might still be you know,
Speaker 1: some like an like a what is it a herb before?
Speaker 1: You might still be like you might still eat you know,
Speaker 1: grass and ship, but you're like you're like, I likely
Speaker 1: understand what you're you're a wilder beast. Like nobody's afraid
Speaker 1: when the wilderbeast around the lines because they know wilderbeast
Speaker 1: can handle themselves right right, So that's why you know
Speaker 1: it might be a little boy line, but the boy
Speaker 1: line is not gonna sunk with a wilder beast. And
Speaker 1: if the wilder best the boyne were like, he's a
Speaker 1: line he could take care of. Agree, But there still
Speaker 1: has to be something with like these like female teachers
Speaker 1: fucking students where the woman just steps aside and goes
Speaker 1: Are things going that badly that I only can fox
Speaker 1: sixteen year old boys? I know get game that bad?
Speaker 1: That's a Milan moment when you just want to go
Speaker 1: to a pond and stare at your own reflection and
Speaker 1: be like, is this is this what I'm really doing now?
Speaker 1: You know? I mean because I don't. I just can't
Speaker 1: understand getting so horny for a sixteen year old that
Speaker 1: I'm going to give up my job any any interests
Speaker 1: that are adults oriented that I cannot do well. There's
Speaker 1: peculiar attractions from from women. I think this all the time,
Speaker 1: Like I think men are you know, we have sex
Speaker 1: with definitely women that is shocking that we have sex
Speaker 1: with him. But like women, women you are not attracted to,
Speaker 1: in other words, you can you can overcome that hump facts.
Speaker 1: So but women willy, women will fall in love with
Speaker 1: a guy who's in prison. I have talked to carl
Speaker 1: Aquilina about that, so that is true. I can't argue
Speaker 1: that thing, like like, it's not like you were love
Speaker 1: with him and he's in prison and he's trapped in there,
Speaker 1: so you always know where he is, but you want
Speaker 1: to fight to get as security and safety. And well
Speaker 1: when we thought we did, we had Carlia Culino on
Speaker 1: the podcast and we did a live episode and she
Speaker 1: said she got dump by a guy in prison, but
Speaker 1: they when she met, like and he had a court
Speaker 1: date and he was cheating on her. But she was like,
Speaker 1: he's in prison, so like, I know where he is.
Speaker 1: You know, I can always get ahold of him if
Speaker 1: you know. But it is curious, like if you're capable
Speaker 1: of fall in love with this guy who's a murderer,
Speaker 1: he's in prison, but you you know, connection with a herdicle,
Speaker 1: it's the same way that guy's fall in love with
Speaker 1: strippers with a harder goal. We same thing yes, but
Speaker 1: there was something about danger and the women get attracted
Speaker 1: to legal murder isn't. But I don't know if i'll
Speaker 1: call it the same thing. You know, like you could
Speaker 1: bring a stripper home and your parents are like, all right,
Speaker 1: a stripper. You can't really bring a murderer home. And
Speaker 1: we didn't do have weird are attracted to weird things,
Speaker 1: I mean, so are men, but they're different. Like I
Speaker 1: remember we had a podcast guest on his names being shaken.
Speaker 1: I saw him at a debate and he was talking
Speaker 1: about terrorism and then my friend said, yeah, he was
Speaker 1: a former Islamic extremist, and I was somehow so aroused.
Speaker 1: He wasn't anymore, like he was doing the bad thing.
Speaker 1: He like. He stopped and I voted the first questions.
Speaker 1: I was like, did you butt head or murder anybody?
Speaker 1: And he said no, and I was like, cool, I can.
Speaker 1: I can morally be attracted you and it's fine, but
Speaker 1: what the fun? I was so like, annoyed with what
Speaker 1: you think? I don't know that he used to be
Speaker 1: kind of I don't know what. Maybe we're attracted to
Speaker 1: things were afraid of. Maybe I get really turned on
Speaker 1: when I see my boyfriend another girl. You're what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you're cool with your boyfriend other girls. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: not going on a date with another girl. Isn't that
Speaker 1: funny we ask you a question? Yeah, this might be personally.
Speaker 1: You don't have to tell me. Don't worry. There's nothing
Speaker 1: I don't say anymore. Did you experience like any sexual trauma? No? No,
Speaker 1: I was cheated on twice. No. I meant like, no
Speaker 1: sexual You know what you mean this, don't you think
Speaker 1: the guys we girls have said something a thousand times.
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks we were sucking asked No, I don't think
Speaker 1: that's why dad didn't ask rape me, Like I guess
Speaker 1: our parents are both so married and we have good
Speaker 1: relationships with our I was sexually objectified at a young
Speaker 1: age because I had tits at like thirteen, but not
Speaker 1: no touching, nothing violent, right, No, no, but I mean
Speaker 1: that's just women. I was sexually objectified and I didn't
Speaker 1: have tits, So people are just going for everything. But
Speaker 1: and I still don't. The only reason I asked, and
Speaker 1: I don't, And I asked this from like informed, yes,
Speaker 1: se right, So I had this girl kind of asked
Speaker 1: me to like meet her boyfriend so that I could
Speaker 1: suck her. Okay, yeah, so she yeah, boyfriend, yeah not not.
Speaker 1: He didn't like it at all. But her constitution was
Speaker 1: in order for this open relationship to be open, I
Speaker 1: can't go behind his back. You have to meet him
Speaker 1: and then you can suck me. And she was sweet girl,
Speaker 1: actually really cool. It's a lot of trouble to go
Speaker 1: through that. I ain't I don't mean your boyfriend. You
Speaker 1: didn't do it, Okay, thank you? How did did she
Speaker 1: just she just came out and asked you. It like
Speaker 1: she had a date and she told me she had
Speaker 1: a boyfriend. And I was like, you know, she she
Speaker 1: was foreign. I was like, I don't you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you guys do it. You're from whatever,
Speaker 1: Like I'm trying to this open mind or whatever. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I just want to know what was good, Like I
Speaker 1: don't really understand. So she's like, we're in an open
Speaker 1: relationship and um, and I was like, okay, cool. And
Speaker 1: then she told me that, um, she had gotten she
Speaker 1: really traumatic rape stories. You told me about it and
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, and uh. And I started to
Speaker 1: put these things and she told me how she was
Speaker 1: drawn to the polyamorous community because there was this this
Speaker 1: thing about consent that was so important? There yea these
Speaker 1: sex parties, it's like asking like can I touch your leg?
Speaker 1: Can I do these things? And that was the first
Speaker 1: time she really felt safe sexually. Again, it was really
Speaker 1: beautiful story. But then I started thinking, it was like,
Speaker 1: are are people that are And I'm not making a
Speaker 1: judgment on you, and I asked, but it's like, are
Speaker 1: people that are into polyamory? Do they are? They? Are
Speaker 1: they trying to belittle what sex is to remove the
Speaker 1: trauma of that sexual experience that they had. So, in
Speaker 1: other words, if sex doesn't mean anything, it's just this
Speaker 1: frivolous act, and that's not what a real connection is
Speaker 1: between people. Then that time we got raped. It's not
Speaker 1: that I see what you're saying. But I tell the
Speaker 1: amorous people thinking it's like sex is not meaningful. I
Speaker 1: just think that they think it should be experienced with
Speaker 1: multiple partners. I don't think they have less of a respect.
Speaker 1: I mean this is coming from someone who is not polyamorous.
Speaker 1: I know people who have been sexually assaulted and then
Speaker 1: have acted out sexually. That's a common thing. But I
Speaker 1: also know people who act out sexually who just truly
Speaker 1: just are horny and comfortable enough with themselves that they
Speaker 1: don't care what anybody thinks, and so they'll ask for
Speaker 1: what they want. And I also know it's everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of another people who also who also have
Speaker 1: had something traumatic happens to them. I mean, I would say,
Speaker 1: like a really high percentage of people have had something
Speaker 1: sexually traumatic happened to them. Have you, um, besides my
Speaker 1: friend's older sister her butt again, but that was that
Speaker 1: traumatic to you or truly just arousing? It was not?
Speaker 1: That was not traumatic. How old was she was? She
Speaker 1: over eighteen? She might have been around there, maybe like
Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen or something like that. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: exactly sure, but it looked like a woman, not she
Speaker 1: was a woman and I was a boy, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and that she was already sexually active and I and I,
Speaker 1: you know, I doubt that I was, but I wouldn't
Speaker 1: chalk it up as as traumatic. And because you didn't feel, uh,
Speaker 1: you didn't feel bad afterwards, like you felt fine. And
Speaker 1: I couldn't wait to go to work right right, I
Speaker 1: can't wait to grow up. Maybe the boss put her
Speaker 1: to it, like make sure she make that morning kid
Speaker 1: for work, hazy tip kid. But yeah, no, I haven't
Speaker 1: experienced any any sexual I think it just sucks up
Speaker 1: your head when people It definitely walks up your head
Speaker 1: when people like objectify you when you don't want to
Speaker 1: be and when you experience it, it's but it's just
Speaker 1: like a little it's a little instance of like that's annoying,
Speaker 1: and then when it just adds up. But the couckling thing,
Speaker 1: I often wondered. Yeah, yeah, and people are using that
Speaker 1: as an insult. Now that's a new thing that people
Speaker 1: are using that as an insult. But I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I am. Yeah, I love it. I get
Speaker 1: so around masturbate to it. So he's sucking another girl, Yeah,
Speaker 1: condom always do you also funk with her? Yeah, just
Speaker 1: because I'm there, you know what I mean? I want
Speaker 1: to be polite, but you're not. Yeah, I'm not by
Speaker 1: I guess by curious but not. I'm just truly not bisexual.
Speaker 1: But I I don't have a problem being naked with
Speaker 1: another woman and she could touch me, it'll touch her,
Speaker 1: but I'll be very like, I don't get I'm very like,
Speaker 1: is this okay? I'm just like a new virgin with
Speaker 1: with women because I'm very used to it. How did
Speaker 1: did you? I'm sure you guys have talked about this
Speaker 1: at nauseum on the show, so I don't I don't
Speaker 1: want to, you know, board listeners. But what was the
Speaker 1: who brought this up? First? You knew in your heart
Speaker 1: you wanted your boyfriend to fuck another person and then watch.
Speaker 1: I knew what my pussy I did because I masturbated
Speaker 1: to the thought of it. Yeah, you would think about it, yeah,
Speaker 1: and have you? How do you know in your pussy?
Speaker 1: How do I know where my pussy was? You don't
Speaker 1: want that? I mean, I'm just when I say I'm
Speaker 1: not attracted to girls, I am like, no, your boyfriend
Speaker 1: sucking one and you watching, because that makes me want
Speaker 1: The mere thought makes me want to murder people. But
Speaker 1: have you tried masturbating to it? Uh, well, masterbating. I
Speaker 1: can masturbate to lots of things that I don't actually
Speaker 1: want to happen in real life. I've masturbated to him
Speaker 1: sucking other people. Yeah, that's fine, but like he used
Speaker 1: to have, like this girl who lived in his build,
Speaker 1: who I would always masturbate to it. But I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just not for me right now. It actually wouldn't
Speaker 1: even bother me if you had sex with that specific
Speaker 1: girl while I was there, but we had like a camaraderie,
Speaker 1: and I would and I don't want to have sex
Speaker 1: with her. Okay, that's cool. What's the most sexually adventurous
Speaker 1: thing you've done? What is adventurous? Like, I don't know
Speaker 1: whatever that means to you, Andrew. I guess I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I'm really um, I don't really give three ways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've had I've had three SEMs with girls, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest with the women attracted to me in
Speaker 1: general tend to be wildly heterosexual. Okay, So like if
Speaker 1: a girl is into me, she will like pussy. I
Speaker 1: don't know that's what it is. I really don't, because
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say that girls that are into
Speaker 1: you are you are? You are masculine? Dude, It's not
Speaker 1: masculine enough for me. Maybe you need more, you might
Speaker 1: need like need I don't like masculine. Yea beer, I
Speaker 1: don't have to stuff. You can shop, can chop some wood?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna fixing things right like that? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: cannot imagine, Andrew. Oh, people you grew up in Manhattan
Speaker 1: are so interesting to me because they just think about
Speaker 1: the world differently. Yeah, they're pretty sucked up, that's what
Speaker 1: I meant. But I don't want to say it was
Speaker 1: very I mean think about it, like, think about what
Speaker 1: we go through as a kid, right. For sure. I
Speaker 1: got to learn at a very young age that some
Speaker 1: people's lives don't matter. Okay, Like I see homeless ye
Speaker 1: my day, and then I'm told by my parents we
Speaker 1: don't give them money, we just let them, and then
Speaker 1: I go put their hungry exactly so because the child
Speaker 1: wants to help. Yeah, child's brain is pure. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: there's like a certain coldness to think. You have to
Speaker 1: have to sure, because I know what Manhattan did to me,
Speaker 1: and I moved here when I was seventeen, so I
Speaker 1: can't imagine if I had my whole childhood happened here.
Speaker 1: Of course, I was in middle school when I met
Speaker 1: my first the first Jewish friend. I know, there was
Speaker 1: no like jewsh I didn't even know what that was.
Speaker 1: I didn't know people didn't like Jews until I went
Speaker 1: to college in California. The first day that we were
Speaker 1: going to do something, and they're like oh yeah, we
Speaker 1: can't go there. They always tried to Jillia down on
Speaker 1: the prices, and I was like, what I thought that
Speaker 1: was in movies that people were antic thing real? Oh man,
Speaker 1: so real? So sexually venturous like have you so you're
Speaker 1: you have strip clubs and how the fund do you
Speaker 1: go to school? And there's like if you're eighteen, I
Speaker 1: mean you just go to bars and clubs and yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean let's yeah, I'm with it. As far as
Speaker 1: sexually adventurous, I don't. There's nothing I really won't do
Speaker 1: in sex. I mean I'm not really into being penetrated,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Tried it, no, but you
Speaker 1: know you don't like it. I don't want to know.
Speaker 1: I like it. That's my one. There's some good I
Speaker 1: come just fine. I don't need to add ship. Like
Speaker 1: if I can't come one day and I need to
Speaker 1: find a new way, then you could do that. But
Speaker 1: I'm I mean find ways to not come. I don't
Speaker 1: need more come ways ways to not come? Are you
Speaker 1: too hoardy of a person? Bust off? My ship works?
Speaker 1: It's not like, well say what it works too well?
Speaker 1: He well, like I wear condoms to not come fast?
Speaker 1: Like yeah, ten is STD responsible. What Steven says that
Speaker 1: to not not the ten to ninety ratio, but part
Speaker 1: of the condom. What it doesn't image, it makes make
Speaker 1: you feel thing a cock ring. So what I asked
Speaker 1: me if if if I wanted to have a want anything,
Speaker 1: I can't see you with a cock ring. I gotta
Speaker 1: be due to a burning man. Yeah, I go to
Speaker 1: burning Man. I want to go. I've seen on a
Speaker 1: photo you'll stay in my in my what's it called?
Speaker 1: And I can't feel orgy tent? Okay, No, I did
Speaker 1: the orgy tent the first year I went. So there
Speaker 1: is sold the people there because I went to Lala
Speaker 1: Palooza and I felt like I was fifty seven years old.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. Don't come pair it to
Speaker 1: a music festival at all. I would say, it's music
Speaker 1: the life festival. But you're like playing, it's a bunch
Speaker 1: of people playing in the desert. It right desert interaction there. Well,
Speaker 1: it's up to you. It's your experience because you want
Speaker 1: to do right, so you can interact with nobody. You
Speaker 1: go to the desert, be yourself. Like I went to
Speaker 1: a talk on bitcoin. I went to a talk about
Speaker 1: like all the Supreme Court justices and we went like
Speaker 1: how they voted, like were you on drugs? I also
Speaker 1: did a lot of drugs, But why you went to
Speaker 1: this Supreme Court because that's kind of sounds like that
Speaker 1: you just married my two favorite interests doing drugs and
Speaker 1: then but having a very educational experience that that's what
Speaker 1: everybody's doing there. You could pick and choose when is
Speaker 1: it I'm going next year? And and to be honest,
Speaker 1: I bet if you guys went and you guys had
Speaker 1: to talk about this, like, first of all, there's tons
Speaker 1: of anti slut shaming things that are going. Now. I
Speaker 1: want to go as just me. I don't want to
Speaker 1: go as work. Fine, perfect, But one of the cool
Speaker 1: things about the experience is like what are you bringing
Speaker 1: to it? Like what are you right? There's no money there,
Speaker 1: so there's like you can't buy anything but ice and
Speaker 1: coffee at Center camp outside of the everything is gifting.
Speaker 1: It's not bartering, gifting. It's a gifting culture. So you
Speaker 1: don't go I'll trade you that. We don't do that.
Speaker 1: It's hey, man, I'm already a yeah. I figured you
Speaker 1: gonna want to do that, So it might not be
Speaker 1: for you bartering and you have a spec RV. Some
Speaker 1: people can't. So I just like, what can I bring?
Speaker 1: Can I bring my old rock collection? Yea, what that
Speaker 1: means something to you? It does? So then yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Curran's in the sitting in the one corner of the
Speaker 1: desert where no one is just stared out of rock
Speaker 1: collect Molly. It's a real ship master bedding to my rocks.
Speaker 1: And if you show up and no one, no one
Speaker 1: will take what you have. And you need a sandwich, No,
Speaker 1: you don't get sandwiches like that. You've got to tack
Speaker 1: the sandwich sandwich that so check it right. You're obressed
Speaker 1: out already. You want to know how I'm gonna tell you. Yes,
Speaker 1: please tell me again. I told you there's no trading.
Speaker 1: People go there with the goal to give you sandwiches. Damn,
Speaker 1: I'm I feel like I'm a Molly already. I mean,
Speaker 1: I want to go build a makeshift dinner and then
Speaker 1: from three am to five am make egg and cheese
Speaker 1: sandwiches and they go, please come so I can give
Speaker 1: you an egg lemonade. Stand, I get it free? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: but I get it. I get Yeah. Yeah, that's really
Speaker 1: what we have to go. We have to go and
Speaker 1: set something up. You have to that's the other thing.
Speaker 1: But what happens is when you're involved in so many
Speaker 1: people doing it, I feel like I can't be just
Speaker 1: taking things. Here we go, there we go. That's the thing. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So we got try to give me a cockering and uh,
Speaker 1: and he goes, you want to podcast? You really brought
Speaker 1: it back? So he goes, he goes, you want this
Speaker 1: cock He goes, he just walked up to me and uh,
Speaker 1: and he goes, can I et gay? Dude? He goes,
Speaker 1: he goes, do you want cockering? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm good. I was trying to
Speaker 1: get wifile. I was like I was just trying to
Speaker 1: get the wifile whatever and uh. And then and then
Speaker 1: he hit me with the wild ship and goes he
Speaker 1: gets he he has, oh no, I'll put it on nice.
Speaker 1: And it was like we were on such different wavelengs
Speaker 1: A to why I didn't want this cop rang like
Speaker 1: in his mind he's going, oh, he's afraid to put
Speaker 1: on his own cockran. Let me help him out, like
Speaker 1: a culture cockrane, What a prude little bit. Another. No,
Speaker 1: first of all, that's a huge fair of mine. What
Speaker 1: like a stranger putting on a cockrane. Yeah, because because
Speaker 1: you don't know my cock. Yeah, but girls don't know
Speaker 1: your cock either, and they got But here's here's the
Speaker 1: uncomfortable situation. I know that girl that you're gay. Right, No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're doing about the gay ship. You're worried about the gate. Sha,
Speaker 1: It's not that you're I haven't said there's anything gay
Speaker 1: about the problem with it. Okay, So the issue is
Speaker 1: what happens if he goes to put on the cockrane
Speaker 1: gate or straight doesn't matter, and it's too big. Oh
Speaker 1: so you're worried about being not big enough in front
Speaker 1: of the ring. Right, So now we got this awkward
Speaker 1: situation where Okay, cockranes are intentionally smaller. Like I never
Speaker 1: put on a cockrane. I don't know what they look like.
Speaker 1: To me. It's a pog that you cut the inside
Speaker 1: and you just slide. That's not an actor. You know.
Speaker 1: The rim of a condom, like the the end of
Speaker 1: the common condom that's closest to your your belly button.
Speaker 1: That's it's it's like that without an the condom party,
Speaker 1: I never will It's like putting a ponytail holder on
Speaker 1: your on your penis. Okay, I don't know that. All
Speaker 1: I'm known is what if this guy throws me to
Speaker 1: x L and then we have this moment where we
Speaker 1: gotta look each other in the eyes and one of
Speaker 1: us got to go. You know, could you know that
Speaker 1: whole situation sounds like, let me avoid. Do you have
Speaker 1: a small dick or a big dick or a medium dick?
Speaker 1: I think I have a larger than average sized dick
Speaker 1: and buy cocker. I don't know. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you security guy thought it was like hard, okay, so
Speaker 1: you didn't know what you're getting into. And I don't
Speaker 1: know what the US. I only tried one of those
Speaker 1: ones where it had like a little vibrator attached. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they probably do make like glass. They make
Speaker 1: glass almost in all sex stuff, so they probably do
Speaker 1: make glass ones and stuff. But that those are more
Speaker 1: experienced people than you know. Gay men burning man are
Speaker 1: just handed out glass cock rings. And I would hope
Speaker 1: where he found someone special in me, like hope, it's
Speaker 1: not what he does to everybody, right, And now you
Speaker 1: understand being a woman a little bit more just like
Speaker 1: a fraction, but I'm glad that happened. Cock Rings are fun,
Speaker 1: not special guys. Yeah you are special. That's the main
Speaker 1: problem with cat calling. It's like, I mean, at least
Speaker 1: customize one for me. Jesus Christ. You know what someone says,
Speaker 1: yo black shirt, I'm like, thank you for noticing the
Speaker 1: shr But like on some real ship, I've always felt
Speaker 1: that way when it comes to cat calling, like that
Speaker 1: you will be specific, not even specific, but like, just
Speaker 1: don't say what everybody else would say. I can't and
Speaker 1: even if it's offensive. Wait, you can put me in
Speaker 1: a casino in Vegas. My favorite thing to do. I
Speaker 1: just sit at a place where the cattle come right
Speaker 1: like you have you ever seen the line for the livestock,
Speaker 1: you know the buffalo where we lost all the listeners. Now,
Speaker 1: but what do you say? What do you mean? I
Speaker 1: was like, um, I beg yo, you guys on birth control?
Speaker 1: And then and then like yeah, and I'm be like,
Speaker 1: hey man, it's good to be safe. I won't even
Speaker 1: follow up. It's not abouting out safe sex tips. I'm
Speaker 1: essentially mocking guys a cat call. Okay, it's just me performing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we probably get some pussy from it. Because it's sweet
Speaker 1: and charming sometimes and the girls who actually like a
Speaker 1: sense of humors and know what I'm doing, they know
Speaker 1: I'm mocking. The guys are like you, You're automatically more
Speaker 1: intelligent than the than the people who cat call, and
Speaker 1: actually they're gonna get that. Yeah great, some weird you know,
Speaker 1: like and then that's a great that's actually I would
Speaker 1: accept this. Someone complimented my enamel yesterday and I was like,
Speaker 1: I actually stopped for a second. I said, all right, see, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: if you if you said that, or if you were funny, funny,
Speaker 1: humor working, humor can say. Humor can fix anything. He goes,
Speaker 1: you got great enamel and a great body. It's like
Speaker 1: the Anamal was the one that Enamal was the one
Speaker 1: that stopped my heart a little bit. That's a cat call.
Speaker 1: In my fourteen years as a resident New York City
Speaker 1: that I have never once got it. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I empathize with what women have to go through in
Speaker 1: in that way, like I never hit on a girl
Speaker 1: to Jim, I refused to do that ship. I never
Speaker 1: ever hit on a girl that I've worked with. I
Speaker 1: never want to hit on a girl in a situation
Speaker 1: where she's forced to talk to me. That could be
Speaker 1: my own insecurity. No, that's that they instinct because when women,
Speaker 1: like when we start a new job or were never
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's almost like an annoying a little
Speaker 1: bit of a burden when someone's attracted to us in
Speaker 1: that and we have to see them a lot because
Speaker 1: obviously we're not attracted to them. It's just like, God,
Speaker 1: now I gotta figure out how to fend him off.
Speaker 1: Or sometimes I feel guilty because it's like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is a really nice person, and I really enjoyed working
Speaker 1: with this person, But now that I know that he's
Speaker 1: attracted to me and I'm not attracted to him, I
Speaker 1: honestly kind of just feel bad being there, even though
Speaker 1: I shouldn't feel bad. It's just clusterfucker. I feel that
Speaker 1: now for the first time in my life. Yeah. Like
Speaker 1: I'll be on dates with girls like and I'll be like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is a really cool conversation, but I want to
Speaker 1: have sex with you, and then like I literally think
Speaker 1: like should I just have sex with her? And then
Speaker 1: because I'll just enjoy conversations women think women have that
Speaker 1: same exact thought that's what I'm saying. I'm empathizing, Like
Speaker 1: I get where you guys are coming from, where it's
Speaker 1: like you almost feel maybe a guilt to do. I'll
Speaker 1: let me jerk them off. Like I've heard girls even
Speaker 1: say that I paid for dinner. I'll off exactly. And
Speaker 1: that's my biggest I don't want you to own me ship,
Speaker 1: Like I almost feel like I do this in comedy
Speaker 1: and in life. I piss people off to like see
Speaker 1: if they really funk with me, right, Like I trust
Speaker 1: the reaction to the joke if you disagree with the premise,
Speaker 1: if I say some ship, if I go up there
Speaker 1: like you know, women are so smart and you guys
Speaker 1: are the best and everything, and then I say jokes
Speaker 1: and goes that you're gonna laugh off of just pure
Speaker 1: tribal agreement. Yeah, and that's not an earned laugh. That's
Speaker 1: so common in comedy these days. All we do is
Speaker 1: just want to agree, and on me so corny nowadays.
Speaker 1: Agree that's why for real funny because you said, I
Speaker 1: agree that guy, But like, like I'll see I'll see
Speaker 1: girls go up and do bits trash and dudes, right,
Speaker 1: And I actually kind of like it because there's half
Speaker 1: of the audience that's gonna maybe disagree with you. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's a challenge to that. Can you get
Speaker 1: these guys to laugh at themselves? Oh? Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: exactly can you be comfortable enough just accepting this fucking
Speaker 1: joke premise for you make them comfortable enough? There's there's whatever,
Speaker 1: you know what I do. I do a bit that
Speaker 1: I was really nervous to do. But I basically it's
Speaker 1: the more you treat a woman like a princess, the
Speaker 1: likelier she has to become a cunt. To become a
Speaker 1: cunt and uh. But then I talk about myself and
Speaker 1: how that when I was treated that way, I just
Speaker 1: walked all over the person. I was nervous to do it. First,
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, if people roll their eyes, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get so mad. But everyone loves it, and the women
Speaker 1: laugh the most about people they know. It's the guys
Speaker 1: like go too, because they're like, I'm gonna lick in
Speaker 1: my life and let people walk all over me. I know,
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah. But with the feeling bad thing though,
Speaker 1: with the feeling like you owe someone something like sex
Speaker 1: on a date, like if you like the conversation or whatever,
Speaker 1: that's not like everyone has to learn that lesson for themselves, Like, wow,
Speaker 1: I did I just suck him because I felt bad
Speaker 1: because I think he's nice? Okay, yes? Or no? Did
Speaker 1: I enjoy it? No? Okay, let's change what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: You have to do that in order to You just
Speaker 1: don't want to hurt somebody. You want to think that
Speaker 1: they're not whatever. Do you break a lot of hearts? Man?
Speaker 1: I hate I stay in relationships way too long because
Speaker 1: I don't want to hurt somebody and I don't want
Speaker 1: to make them feel bad. You're really concerned about hurting people.
Speaker 1: It's me, especially people that I like actually genuinely too.
Speaker 1: And yeah, because that's the fun. That's the shitty thing.
Speaker 1: You can love somebody that you're not right for. I
Speaker 1: wish it was impossible, but sometimes loving enough song? When
Speaker 1: did you experience not at all? Did you experience that
Speaker 1: in your last relationship? Because that's the only relationship I
Speaker 1: know about. Did you know about the singer? No that
Speaker 1: I had one after that? Did? Yeah? I was in
Speaker 1: public with it, Okay, but yeah, because that's what I say.
Speaker 1: I was like because I was like, I kind of
Speaker 1: followed that pre that previous relationship on the internet. I
Speaker 1: was really really surprised when you guys broke up, and
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I need all the details. Like
Speaker 1: I think it was like a celebrity thing where I
Speaker 1: was likely invested. I don't know. I mean I don't Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was not She's not actually like Selena Gomez and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I just had a girlfriend and then I was
Speaker 1: yeah I was. I was with her for four years.
Speaker 1: I was miserable for about two and so why did
Speaker 1: you stay in it? Yeah, we've all done it. I think, Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: in this situation, like I really wanted to be like
Speaker 1: a thing that worked out for her. You know, she
Speaker 1: has a bunch of things not work out for her
Speaker 1: in her life. And I thought she was really sweet
Speaker 1: person and I knew that she treated me well and
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, and so I did value that.
Speaker 1: But I just wasn't there. We just weren't there, and
Speaker 1: I didn't want to hurt her. Also, she had moved countries,
Speaker 1: like she came to a Mary. I got her a
Speaker 1: visa in America. She rely on me financial like when
Speaker 1: we broke up, I gave her I gave her a
Speaker 1: severance package essentially, like yeah, all right, it's very nice
Speaker 1: of you. Yeah, because I don't want to put someone
Speaker 1: on the street. At the same time, I don't want
Speaker 1: to draw this out. I have a friend and that
Speaker 1: basically did the same thing, like they were going to
Speaker 1: move to this house together, and he was like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to. This has been a person has been
Speaker 1: a part of my life for a very long time.
Speaker 1: So like, I'm gonna make the house payment that I
Speaker 1: said I would make, but I'm just not going to
Speaker 1: live in the house. That's very kind of you. And
Speaker 1: and it said does suck when when when ending a
Speaker 1: relationship might mean that one person, the person who gets
Speaker 1: dumped especially is put in an unfortunate financial situation, living situation, whatever.
Speaker 1: It should never deter you fremending the relationship because you
Speaker 1: want to get out of it for your own mental sanity.
Speaker 1: But also that's a really good idea. I've never heard
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, it's just I think a lot of
Speaker 1: times that also eases your guilt, right, because almost guilt
Speaker 1: and a breakup if we actually care about the person.
Speaker 1: So so it just puts you in that position. But
Speaker 1: I learned stuff and then I had a relationship that
Speaker 1: after that, who with like the most amazing girl, Like
Speaker 1: to this day, I think about her every single day.
Speaker 1: I think she's incredible, like one of the most you know,
Speaker 1: talented in terms of like creatively talented people I've ever met.
Speaker 1: And um her, No, And it and it sucked because
Speaker 1: another person I really love still love her. I just
Speaker 1: it just wasn't the right thing. I'm fucked up, like
Speaker 1: I need a lot, you know, I'm a comic. Like yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know that it's me because I didn't think
Speaker 1: she found me funny really, but she was faking it. No,
Speaker 1: I just I think deep down I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 1: think it and like that's something that I really valued.
Speaker 1: But that's my insecurity. If I asked her, or if
Speaker 1: somebody independently asked her, I'm sure she would say she would.
Speaker 1: So is that the reason why you ended it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well no, that's that's not the reason why I ended
Speaker 1: it at the time, because I wasn't self aware enough
Speaker 1: in the moment to realize that. I just knew that
Speaker 1: there was when when I was hanging out, I just
Speaker 1: knew that there was maybe an insecurity that felt just
Speaker 1: a lack of comfort at certain times. And it sucked
Speaker 1: because like even to this day, Like I check on
Speaker 1: her Instagram every once in a while to see to
Speaker 1: hope she's doing great. Yeah you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like like really will Yeah she shot when you want
Speaker 1: it ended? Yeah yeah, and it was. It was so
Speaker 1: sad because she's just the dopest. It's just sometimes people
Speaker 1: can be great. Two people can be great and they
Speaker 1: just don't and really love each other and it still
Speaker 1: doesn't work. It's still relationship I've ever ended where afterwards
Speaker 1: I haven't lost any positive feelings and they had just
Speaker 1: gotten more. Would you ever get back together with that person? Um?
Speaker 1: I just don't know, Like I would have to. I
Speaker 1: would have to like fill a void that's in me.
Speaker 1: I think figure out what that is, and I wish
Speaker 1: it was filled, like it was weird when I did
Speaker 1: Molly and Burning Man. I experience Twitter is like to
Speaker 1: have like a full heart, you know, like where you're
Speaker 1: not you know, as comics, like we're making people laugh,
Speaker 1: We're saying interesting things like because we're trying to take
Speaker 1: some validation and stuffing in this hole is missing. Right,
Speaker 1: we go on Twitter, all these people retweet our shin
Speaker 1: and like our pictures. All right, I feel full. I
Speaker 1: feel full, But it's constantly trying to feel full. It's
Speaker 1: just like holding people hostage and making them listen to
Speaker 1: my thoughts. That's why I do comedy, right right, So maybe,
Speaker 1: but maybe on some level, like by I haven't need
Speaker 1: to be listening, I haven't need to be loved and adored.
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying. I think I haven't need
Speaker 1: to talk to people while they shut the funk off?
Speaker 1: And why why? Why? Why? You think that? Is just
Speaker 1: because everyone? Because I think that my opinion matters more
Speaker 1: than other people's. I think it's the honest, and I
Speaker 1: know it doesn't, but that's what I believe. Well, if
Speaker 1: you truly believe it matters more, why do you need
Speaker 1: them to validate it? I mean they well, I mean
Speaker 1: I can't make money talking for free, but you don't
Speaker 1: have to make money doing what you love like a
Speaker 1: lot of people. Well I would prefer to, though, but
Speaker 1: a lot of people love their dogs. They don't need it. Well, actually,
Speaker 1: that's why I like writing and stuff Instagram just like
Speaker 1: you can put it out into the void. But why
Speaker 1: do they start the Instagram for that? I've always perplexed me.
Speaker 1: I hate that ship your dog doesn't need to be
Speaker 1: on Instagram, and dog doesn'tive a about Instagram. They warn
Speaker 1: people to go on like a very basic, primal level.
Speaker 1: They just want people to go, wow, your dog is
Speaker 1: so absolutely And then we stopped seeking that in human
Speaker 1: form because we're getting it on the Internet. And so
Speaker 1: I wish I was at this place where and I
Speaker 1: felt it when I was on Molly, like I was
Speaker 1: filled with my heart was so flat, that was overflowing, right,
Speaker 1: I hear. All I wanted to do was make you
Speaker 1: feel comfortable if I felt you felt you were feeling
Speaker 1: a little insecure about your manicure or some ship. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like I want to tell you,
Speaker 1: like I am feeling I really need to get these gels.
Speaker 1: Remember you don't even need nails, Like I just wanted
Speaker 1: to give people ships, right right, right, So if I
Speaker 1: was at that level in my life, if I was
Speaker 1: at that level in my life where I was so
Speaker 1: secure and and I think it could work, well, you're right,
Speaker 1: you need to be secure person in order to be
Speaker 1: a good partner. If yes, But then there's also I
Speaker 1: think relationships where it just so happens naturally. And I
Speaker 1: think we find this with friendships, which is like the
Speaker 1: thing that you need from another person they just happened
Speaker 1: to yes, exactly, puzzle piece exactly. So the girl that
Speaker 1: I'll probably end up being with forever hopefully, you know,
Speaker 1: is maybe the girl that will just naturally be that
Speaker 1: given and then I'll naturally do things for her. What
Speaker 1: do you need? What do you need the girl to
Speaker 1: give you? That's a good one. Um, I think, I think,
Speaker 1: I do. I think I think in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: you know. Uh. Neil Brennan put this very well in
Speaker 1: his in his three mics thing. He said, He's like,
Speaker 1: he's like a lot of times, laughter to me is
Speaker 1: like an air bubble, like an oxygen bubble. So it's
Speaker 1: like I'm running out of oxygen and then say some
Speaker 1: joke or whatever like that, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: that's a little bit more time with the oxygen. And
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that extreme for me because
Speaker 1: I don't need it to be a laugh. I could
Speaker 1: also have it being like an interesting thought that we
Speaker 1: chew on for a minute. Right, Yeah, the intellectual chemistry
Speaker 1: needs to be on point, right, and let's not say
Speaker 1: that this girl was a smarter thing, right, but no,
Speaker 1: I wanted, I want somewhere Like when we're talking, it's
Speaker 1: just this. Whatever she needs, I'm giving whatever I need,
Speaker 1: she I need, she's given. I think this might be
Speaker 1: related to what you're saying. One thing I really really
Speaker 1: love about my boyfriend of six years he I am
Speaker 1: the funniest around him. He brings out I don't know
Speaker 1: what I am on I am on fire, I cannot
Speaker 1: and the best feeling that is, especially as a comedian. Yes,
Speaker 1: and it's not anything. It's just the intellectual chemistry. And
Speaker 1: it's also because you have such a deep love for
Speaker 1: him that you're going to try your hardest around He's created.
Speaker 1: It's a non judgment it's non judgmental space. Cre at
Speaker 1: it for her. You don't feel bad if you bomb.
Speaker 1: You don't feel if you bomb. Then it confirms your insecurities,
Speaker 1: which are I'm not that funny, I'm not that smart,
Speaker 1: I'm not whatever. He creates his loving environment, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure by not doing it, I don't know what he
Speaker 1: does just by existing. This is what our friends do
Speaker 1: to each other. Yeah, I'm always I'm funniest around Stephen
Speaker 1: and Karn. That's why, that's why people fun with you guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know who was like this, And I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: with tons of people. Whitney commings. She is a funny amplifier. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you are around Whitney. Whatever you she's tagging it. She
Speaker 1: makes you think it's funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you beautiful, unbelievable. And I tell her this all the time.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like the little like turbo boost and
Speaker 1: video games, and there's certain people have these types of things.
Speaker 1: A gosh, another person is great like that lack of judgment.
Speaker 1: You could come with the most fucked up ship and
Speaker 1: he'll go there with you. Yeah. Yeah, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: like just cut you off and disagree to like stay
Speaker 1: his point back. All right, are we going with this ship? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh that's when Steven and I are by ourselves in
Speaker 1: our apartment, we joke about the most fucked up ship.
Speaker 1: I'll now, I'll never write it down, I'll never tell it,
Speaker 1: but just because I want that is sacred to me
Speaker 1: that we can do that and like Kart and I
Speaker 1: can talk about the most funked up ship that we
Speaker 1: if we said on the podcast, people would be like
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff didn't make it to air guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's okay, that's better that way. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: totally know what you mean. But sometimes I'm around people
Speaker 1: that I get nervous and excited around. I'm very attracted
Speaker 1: to them, but I'm too nervous and I can't be
Speaker 1: fucking funny and I think what I'm saying is stupid.
Speaker 1: And with Steve and it's like, it's just with ease,
Speaker 1: I totally know what you mean. It's so valuable that
Speaker 1: and as you get older as a guy, it's very
Speaker 1: hard to at least for me in my younger years,
Speaker 1: like when I was just trying to get pussy. You know,
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, pussy validates you as well.
Speaker 1: Like so it's just like, oh, if I sleep with
Speaker 1: that girl, I mean I'm funny, i mean I'm smart,
Speaker 1: I mean all these things right, And I'm sure on
Speaker 1: some level women probably do that with guys. So it's like,
Speaker 1: and I think when you get old and you stop
Speaker 1: needing to get late as much, or you start having
Speaker 1: a lot more self confidence and you know these things
Speaker 1: about yourself, all of a sudden you value connection. You
Speaker 1: value that and I did have it with my last girl.
Speaker 1: It was like I felt the most comfortable being vulnerable
Speaker 1: around somebody that I've ever felt like I could tell
Speaker 1: her like zero judgment for and it was such a
Speaker 1: beautiful feeling because a lot of times with women, as
Speaker 1: a guy especially, you don't want to be vulnerable. You
Speaker 1: don't want to share these physics. You know, I'm the rock,
Speaker 1: I could do anything. You love. Vulnerable man, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's so hard and not initially you will walk up
Speaker 1: to a girl like, hey, I'm a little bit insecure
Speaker 1: about my waistine Jesus Christ, please never say that to me.
Speaker 1: And vulnerable are too. I mean, I guess admitting and
Speaker 1: its curity is is a vulnerability. But yeah, when I
Speaker 1: think of vulnerability, I just think of like what do
Speaker 1: you what? What's what are you afraid of? What do
Speaker 1: you like? Like, you're you saying that you were weird
Speaker 1: out when the guy wanted to put the cochering on
Speaker 1: you a burning man, because you're like what if it
Speaker 1: didn't fit? Like, mean, that was I was vulnerable. I
Speaker 1: like that you said that because to me, that was
Speaker 1: vulnerable and I I appreciate that. For me, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a lot of work. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like you don't want someone who feels like like
Speaker 1: like you have a burden. You have homework, do you
Speaker 1: know the first date? That's why your flaws have to
Speaker 1: mantle to Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it's I get that.
Speaker 1: I can see why a lot of people feel away,
Speaker 1: and maybe that reaction is why a lot of guys
Speaker 1: aren't vulnerable with women, right because they go, oh, she
Speaker 1: won't be attracted this, she won't like this. It's just
Speaker 1: more like I mean with my you know, the relationships
Speaker 1: I've had with men over the years, like I end
Speaker 1: up every time I'm in a relationship, I end up
Speaker 1: doing more work because I'm hand I never I don't
Speaker 1: never make people handle my emotional ship like so much
Speaker 1: where it feels like it's become their problem. But I
Speaker 1: feel like people constantly do it to me. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's because I seem like I'm in control
Speaker 1: of everything, but it's like I have my whole own
Speaker 1: ship going on over here that I'm trying to deal with.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can hold I can like it's like
Speaker 1: I can hold your hand and support you while you
Speaker 1: do it, but I cannot do it for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's too much to ask of anybody, Like I cannot
Speaker 1: also be your therapists, Like there are therapists for that, right,
Speaker 1: And I just so often it's just like all this
Speaker 1: stuff and I'm like, why am I doing this? I'm
Speaker 1: doing extra work, extra work, and I'm not getting the payoff.
Speaker 1: What the guy? Maybe you're not choosing guys you like enough? No,
Speaker 1: I mean I do like them, I'm really picky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I do like the people a lot, but I
Speaker 1: mean it's just I think it's I just don't like
Speaker 1: people might honestly don't because I don't feel like it.
Speaker 1: You know, relationships, you should be getting something from them,
Speaker 1: and to say that, like you're you're not, even if
Speaker 1: it's just like the pure enjoyment of being around them.
Speaker 1: Like I like my friends very much. I feel like
Speaker 1: I get just a deep pleasure out of being around them.
Speaker 1: But relationships very a lot of times very hard for
Speaker 1: me to be like, what what is the point of this?
Speaker 1: Like you need to go Bernie. Friends, girl, We're gonna
Speaker 1: go Bernie. Your Molley experience was very similar to the
Speaker 1: Molly experience I talked about for a lot of police
Speaker 1: the full Heart, all that kind of reason why I
Speaker 1: say that is because it seemed to me and what
Speaker 1: you were saying, now, did you're concerned about a payoff? Right?
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you doing for me? What are
Speaker 1: you giving me? Deal? Yeah? How do I receive that?
Speaker 1: It's a business deal, etcetera. I mean, a marriage is
Speaker 1: not I try not to make sure, but the whole
Speaker 1: experience in Bernie Man is what can I give? And
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything wrong being a relationship where
Speaker 1: you want to give to that person. A matter of fact,
Speaker 1: with every girl that I've been with, I hope that
Speaker 1: I've elevated them in some way. I hope I made
Speaker 1: them believe that they could achieve things that they didn't
Speaker 1: believe they could achieve beforehand. I hope I made them
Speaker 1: feel more confident, secure about parts of their body and
Speaker 1: their mind that they weren't secure about before it, because
Speaker 1: I truly believe that. And I'm one of these people
Speaker 1: where like I'm I can motivate you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like I have a certain level of confidence when I
Speaker 1: talk that you start to believe whatever the funk I say. Sure,
Speaker 1: So I hope that I can give you that. And
Speaker 1: I'm no and I'm like you, I'm I try to
Speaker 1: take to fill some ship, but my goal would be
Speaker 1: the nut take no no. But see what what you
Speaker 1: just said at the beginning of that where I feel
Speaker 1: like I am giving, I'm giving and I'm not getting
Speaker 1: back nearly even like half of what I'm giving, You're
Speaker 1: giving a lot of emotional support and energy, emotional support
Speaker 1: and like management. I mean every person I do that
Speaker 1: it is I think people are drawn to tell you
Speaker 1: their problems out krim that's true. Well, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's just because anytime you like, when you it's
Speaker 1: so I think it's so rare to meet someone who
Speaker 1: is confident that you think being confident means I can
Speaker 1: also handle being like the people are very honest and
Speaker 1: like super mean to me because I think they think, well,
Speaker 1: you're tough, you can handle like the absolute truth. I
Speaker 1: can handle it. That doesn't mean I always want it.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I want strangers coming up and like
Speaker 1: telling me their real thought to me, like no, thank you,
Speaker 1: I'm not interesting. They think that they could do that.
Speaker 1: I was because when you're because when you are like
Speaker 1: when you're tough, I mean, I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: like people think that like like that they can't break you,
Speaker 1: or they will attempt to break you. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: exactly what it is. Or it's like because you're so harsh,
Speaker 1: they can get want to be harsh back to you,
Speaker 1: like a Simon Cowell thing. Maybe they're trying to get
Speaker 1: validation from you. They're like, oh, I see that she's harsh,
Speaker 1: and maybe she values harshness, so if I'm harsh towards her,
Speaker 1: I'll have a respect for you. Yeah that I thought that.
Speaker 1: I thought of that too. Yeah, that is true. If
Speaker 1: I go right at the best guimeme or even in prison,
Speaker 1: if I go right at the biggest dude and I
Speaker 1: swing on them, everybody else even the biggest dude, was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy is not a big well. I think we
Speaker 1: as comedians experience that a lot, like after shows. I
Speaker 1: the number one thing I hate the most is when
Speaker 1: people try to be funny to me after a show,
Speaker 1: because you're never gonna be as funny as all my comedians,
Speaker 1: and then it's just as awkward. I would rather just
Speaker 1: be genuine, like what do you do in your life?
Speaker 1: Like why what brings you here tonight? What's going on
Speaker 1: that made you come to this show. Do you feel better?
Speaker 1: Do you feel worse? Are you a fucking chemist? Like
Speaker 1: I want to That's the stuff that I'm interested to hear.
Speaker 1: And I think that is like a weird respect thing
Speaker 1: that like, oh, I'm going to prepare this funny joke
Speaker 1: and like it's never gonna land. Yeah. Yeah, it really
Speaker 1: comes down from like it comes from this this feeling
Speaker 1: of wow, this person is on a pedestal and putting
Speaker 1: it makes me feel great and make me feel funny.
Speaker 1: If I could make this person, then I'm putting on
Speaker 1: a pedestal and I smell that and I hate it.
Speaker 1: I just like, just be yourself, even if you suck,
Speaker 1: if you're awkward, if you're weird, if you have nothing
Speaker 1: good to say, if you're gonna st stand there and
Speaker 1: giggle in my face, Like I like that so much.
Speaker 1: Just be whatever you is. Just be you. Because I
Speaker 1: think we call you can sense when someone's not being
Speaker 1: their authentic, genuine yeah yeah, yeah, I don't find it
Speaker 1: as as big an issue after shows. I think it
Speaker 1: can be awkward, but like I understand the intention. I
Speaker 1: try to judge people by intent, you know, for sure, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: But I do understand that with like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe up and coming people in a business or like
Speaker 1: comedians who are up and coming that maybe they're really
Speaker 1: nice to you, etcetera. I I smell out of disingenuous
Speaker 1: in their actions. Are you nice to me because you
Speaker 1: just want to talk to me in value my opinions?
Speaker 1: Are you think I can do something for your career?
Speaker 1: What is that like? And it's to the point where
Speaker 1: like I'm very like I I maybe I asked you
Speaker 1: guys if I can come on this podcast or maybe
Speaker 1: it was like in a situation, but like I would
Speaker 1: never do that. I would. I think I did it
Speaker 1: because I wanted to definitely promote, for for one, this
Speaker 1: this project that I have to stand up product, but
Speaker 1: like to come up and ask you guys to do
Speaker 1: something like that, I would. I'm very very hesitant because
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want you thinking I was trying to you know,
Speaker 1: take advantage or like form etcetera. And this is and
Speaker 1: I'm like this even with people, So it's like I
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm think about that, Like I have
Speaker 1: a platform, I've done things, and even then I'm still
Speaker 1: like I wouldn't want these people, would I know it's weird.
Speaker 1: We don't even hang out a lot ever almost, but
Speaker 1: I would rather the times we hang out those moments
Speaker 1: to be genuine. I'd rather when I see you in
Speaker 1: a comedy club like, yeah, what's up? Everything good? Cool?
Speaker 1: That I value. I value being genuine so much that
Speaker 1: I wouldn't ask to do something that you guys might
Speaker 1: even want. It might even benefit you. But the interactions
Speaker 1: when I have interactions, I'm not saying this is good,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm just saying my intent is good.
Speaker 1: It's like when you have interactions with people that are
Speaker 1: just interesting that makes us want to have you on
Speaker 1: the podcast more than if you ask me in the podcast,
Speaker 1: if we just hung out with you and like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, he was so funny and he was so charismatic,
Speaker 1: and I can't believe we have it on him on
Speaker 1: the podcast. To me, that's like that happens almost every
Speaker 1: time I hang out with someone and I have a
Speaker 1: great time. When they don't ask me about business, I
Speaker 1: like them a thousand times more, even if in their
Speaker 1: head the whole time I'm there thinking, although I would
Speaker 1: rather them ask me than be coy about it. That
Speaker 1: I hate. I hate when coy about ship I'm like,
Speaker 1: just fucking say it, dude. Like even like when people
Speaker 1: com meet us after shows, I'm like, do you want
Speaker 1: to take a picture? I used to I would never
Speaker 1: say that usually, but then there's so many people won't ask,
Speaker 1: but then they'll just stand in front of me and
Speaker 1: not talk, and then I keep talking because I'm trying
Speaker 1: to fill a silence, and then now I'm just like,
Speaker 1: you want to get a pick? And I never a
Speaker 1: year ago, I would have been so embarrassed to say
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are incredibly grateful you asked that.
Speaker 1: Yes they are, and I can tell you don't want
Speaker 1: to convenience and like that's why I'm standing here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but they literally care so much about you. Yeah, respect,
Speaker 1: The intention is exactly yeah, So they're going to not
Speaker 1: ask for a pick, and then they might come back
Speaker 1: over those people they see someone else ask. You know,
Speaker 1: it's the worst. I hate when people tweet or emails
Speaker 1: and they're like I wanted to say hi so bad,
Speaker 1: but I was scared, Like just do it. You gotta
Speaker 1: do it, Grab life by the dick and do it.
Speaker 1: There we go. Yeah, I mean, we're very I've never
Speaker 1: really met anyone who I liked very much, who was
Speaker 1: like just pretty much a regular ask person when I
Speaker 1: when I talk to them, you know, no matter how
Speaker 1: much you like them, I mean, unless you're meeting someone's
Speaker 1: super high level like Lady Gaga, but even her as
Speaker 1: presented in her documentary, I don't know me, Christina watched
Speaker 1: enough you caught up on this, but yeah, god it was.
Speaker 1: It's like just so heartbreaking because it's like, god, damn,
Speaker 1: like this is a business where I don't think you
Speaker 1: can ever really be happy. So I'm not sure I
Speaker 1: was talking about this. I think I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was a podcast or just with some friends. Isn't
Speaker 1: that weird? Hold life, dude, I always forget on recording
Speaker 1: on a podcast, but it's it's we're talking about this,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, you see these famous people
Speaker 1: killed themselves, right, like the guy from Link Lincoln Park
Speaker 1: killed himself. And you know Robert whatever you chester Beddingfield, well,
Speaker 1: there's some might be some extra info on that, right,
Speaker 1: he could have done the jerking off with the autos
Speaker 1: fixation that I have no idea, I'll tell you off.
Speaker 1: I'm like honestly scared to talk about it on the mic,
Speaker 1: but all right, well we get to it. But conspiracy
Speaker 1: theories essentially like people like I can't believe these people
Speaker 1: kill themselves, and I'm like that makes more sense to me. Yes, sure,
Speaker 1: and it makes more sense to me because imagine your
Speaker 1: whole life. You go, when I'm famous, when I'm successful,
Speaker 1: I'll be happy. I'm not happy now, but when I
Speaker 1: get it, yeah, I'm gonna be happy. And then you
Speaker 1: get it and you're still miserable. You kill yourself. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The reason we haven't is because we got hope. Well,
Speaker 1: I always have to have a goal that I haven't.
Speaker 1: I always have to have something i'm striving towards so
Speaker 1: I can focus on that instead of because then when
Speaker 1: you get the success and you're like, holy shit, this
Speaker 1: is amazing. How long does success last for you? Like
Speaker 1: when you hit like when you guys got the book deal? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah yeah. So when you guys got
Speaker 1: the book deal, how long were you like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: we got a book half a day. Isn't that crazy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because then I'm like, oh funk, we got to write
Speaker 1: a book. Yeah, you already think about the next situation.
Speaker 1: But I have to mentally for myself because if I'm like,
Speaker 1: I want to get to the point where I have
Speaker 1: fans and then I'll be happy, like I it always
Speaker 1: has always I we got to this point with guys
Speaker 1: who fund where it hit a nerve and we got
Speaker 1: successful and we made enough money to be able to
Speaker 1: not have a roommate, which is fucking incredible. But then
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I stopped creating goals. I gotta keep
Speaker 1: creating goals that are like far far away that I
Speaker 1: don't think are possible, because I don't ever want to
Speaker 1: get to a point where I'm like, I'm at the
Speaker 1: top of the mountain, where is anybody here? I'm not
Speaker 1: happy and I don't I don't want that feeling at all.
Speaker 1: But with it, I mean with this though, I mean
Speaker 1: I got less happy because it just was this window
Speaker 1: into how uh miserable and tortured everyone is. And then
Speaker 1: I just felt this like great weight that I was like,
Speaker 1: and now they're turning to me, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I only I'm not, I don't even know what the
Speaker 1: funk I'm doing. I mean, I know what I'm doing,
Speaker 1: like in my career, I I and I understand that
Speaker 1: very well and like I have focused I mean even
Speaker 1: if it's not making me happy, Like I understand what
Speaker 1: I'm doing and I feel like I have a grasp
Speaker 1: on it. Uh, but yeah, I'm just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: everyone is so messed up and and sad and hates
Speaker 1: themselves and like, what the how can do you hate yourself?
Speaker 1: Next year, I mean, I'm going to go in. I'm
Speaker 1: joking you guys will get your own RV and maybe
Speaker 1: take a couple of friends with you, I think, or
Speaker 1: something because honestly, because that's the bodies and wear wigs
Speaker 1: and be to see whoever you want to be. That's
Speaker 1: really what it's what it's about. I mean, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna be the only person in a weird cossum. You
Speaker 1: should have seen this ship this year. I love costs.
Speaker 1: I have sucking uh satin gloves up to my own.
Speaker 1: But I think, um, I forgot what I was going
Speaker 1: to say. Well, everyone's so miserable and they have their
Speaker 1: own Yeah. Well, the reason I said burning man was
Speaker 1: because I didn't have the ability to be on the
Speaker 1: internet on social media for a week after after while,
Speaker 1: I was a burning man. And after that when I
Speaker 1: came back to the real world and I was off
Speaker 1: like the Molly come down. It was the most confident
Speaker 1: I've felt in years. And uh, I would say I
Speaker 1: operate with a pretty decent amount of confidence, right and
Speaker 1: but and you know what it was, I wasn't constantly
Speaker 1: on Twitter reading refreshing your tweet that now were refreshing
Speaker 1: and hearing all the hates because we obviously there's gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of good, but you're gonna get a
Speaker 1: lot of hate too, you know what I mean constant.
Speaker 1: So it's like, even as numb as we get to that,
Speaker 1: you're still gonna it's still gonna go through your head
Speaker 1: a little bit. So when you shut the window to
Speaker 1: that ship, I feel pretty good. Do I hate myself? No,
Speaker 1: I think that on the spectrum of comedians. I love
Speaker 1: myself a lot, and I'm very grateful for that. But
Speaker 1: I've also grew up in a family where both of
Speaker 1: my family, both of my parents, you know, went to
Speaker 1: therapy their whole life. I was very aware of mental illness,
Speaker 1: so I developed a lot of systems to deal with,
Speaker 1: you know, being down or depressed. Even from a very
Speaker 1: young age. You got a lot of young young young
Speaker 1: I mean even like when I was young, young, for
Speaker 1: every negative thought I would have I would bounce it
Speaker 1: with five positive. I just developed myself like I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: why is it sometimes I feel bad and then everything
Speaker 1: is bad? Okay, maybe that's just my brain. But if
Speaker 1: my dad wasn't depressed all the time, I would have
Speaker 1: never thought that. And I took that into comedy. Like comedy,
Speaker 1: you know, we're never happy. I would force myself to
Speaker 1: to to recognize progress like early on a big well, Wow,
Speaker 1: I can actually go on the stage and make people
Speaker 1: laugh now. I couldn't do that six months ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I can go on the stage and open with just
Speaker 1: a joke. I don't have to do crowd work to
Speaker 1: get into I couldn't do that four months ago. And
Speaker 1: it was this constant you know, tools to maintain self
Speaker 1: esteem because it takes work, dude. The brain is such
Speaker 1: a fucking powerful, fucking tool. And I feel like so
Speaker 1: many people. That's what upsets me about when we got
Speaker 1: inundated with all these emails that are like when and
Speaker 1: we really truly realize, like most people aren't confident in
Speaker 1: themselves and most people do not like themselves. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying love. I think like is more important, you know,
Speaker 1: not the love yourself. But liking yourself as very is
Speaker 1: an important foundation, and I feel like you have the
Speaker 1: ability to It's just you have to figure out what
Speaker 1: works best for you. And that's why there's so many
Speaker 1: industries there. Self improvement industry is and self help is
Speaker 1: a million dollar billion and trilling dollar into street because
Speaker 1: so many people are searching for something to make them
Speaker 1: feel better, when in reality, you can make yourself feel
Speaker 1: better if you go what do I need? Let's let's
Speaker 1: pay attention to the patterns, the thought patterns that I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: or every time I think a negative thought, I'm going
Speaker 1: to note it and then then I'm gonna realize, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking a lot of negative ship throughout the day.
Speaker 1: I need to be more positive or whatever the funk.
Speaker 1: Whatever the funk it is. And I wish more people
Speaker 1: realize that they could do that in their own self
Speaker 1: help boom I think is attributed to media, well man,
Speaker 1: social media, sure, but I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: a lack of religion. I think it's a new religion.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're right, as people step away because what
Speaker 1: did whatever? Yeah, yeah, Jesus, Jesus like a hailer and
Speaker 1: a nice dude, he loves you unconditionally. Yeah, that's honestly.
Speaker 1: I grew up with no religion. Okay most people, so
Speaker 1: I'm Jewish, I'm not. My parents were pretty much atheist,
Speaker 1: both of them. We grew up with no religion. They
Speaker 1: weren't anti religion, but we just grew up with But
Speaker 1: when I was on that molely I understood that I
Speaker 1: understand what Jesus does. Yeah, he loves you no matter what.
Speaker 1: He gets all his love to give. He fills you up.
Speaker 1: And I understand why people who suffer from addiction, etcetera.
Speaker 1: Are drawn to that force because they're empty. And gives
Speaker 1: you hope, gives you hope, salvation, it does all these
Speaker 1: things that self help is kind of replacing because we've
Speaker 1: removed religion for our lives. Right now, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, humans, whether you like it or not,
Speaker 1: we need to be told what the funk to do.
Speaker 1: We need that ship, We need order and this idea
Speaker 1: that we could just be on the world and be
Speaker 1: free and do whatever. Do we get order wrong? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Should gave people be able to get married? Yes, we
Speaker 1: got that wrong with the order, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Should someone be allowed to be trans Yes, we got
Speaker 1: that wrong with the order, but a lot of other
Speaker 1: ship we did get right. Don't steal, don't kill. We
Speaker 1: need to be told what to do. We left our
Speaker 1: own devices. It's bad out there. Well, I mean that
Speaker 1: kind of goes into why. I mean, I spent a
Speaker 1: long time thinking about open relationships, and I kind of
Speaker 1: thought that I did need the order of monogamy and
Speaker 1: a relationship because I go so so back and forth
Speaker 1: and bed. That kind of ties into that because I
Speaker 1: was just like, no, I think it a certain point
Speaker 1: we need to be like, no, you can't fucking have everything.
Speaker 1: It's because it is. It's this sense of chaos. But
Speaker 1: back to burning man, do you think you would have
Speaker 1: had such a great experience if you weren't on drugs?
Speaker 1: Because I fucking I fucking a lot of drugs and
Speaker 1: I'm really um, you know, I've been like but just
Speaker 1: like you know, not smoking pot or like cocaine. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about like sites like adelics and things that you
Speaker 1: can only do a couple of times in a lifetime
Speaker 1: and you really have to space it out. You know,
Speaker 1: watch documentary is reading it and getting into some weird ship.
Speaker 1: But like, so can you have the same experience if
Speaker 1: you're not on drugs, because I just hate this reliance
Speaker 1: on substances. I'm very against, Like I don't even drink
Speaker 1: coffee because I'm so against relying on things. Right, there's
Speaker 1: there a meetings there, and a meetings there. They are
Speaker 1: children that go to burning man like infants, and Uh,
Speaker 1: for me, I think next year I'm gonna be sober
Speaker 1: except for alcohol. I don't think I'm gonna do which
Speaker 1: is not sober. You're just gonna I'm gonna not. I
Speaker 1: think I'm just gonna That's the best one for me
Speaker 1: because what it does is like it makes me comfortable
Speaker 1: in this environment is very uncomfortable for me. I grew
Speaker 1: up with this hippie stuff, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: what's uncomfortable the connecting, the emotional connection or like nudity
Speaker 1: or like what's uncomfortable all the things that are happening there,
Speaker 1: coquering offerings, all these coins, right, and I'm a city boy.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, he rv wearing satin
Speaker 1: gloves and ships. So it's just that you did that
Speaker 1: and it's been great and I recommended to everybody. But
Speaker 1: so for me, that's what works to really kind of
Speaker 1: like be the most vulnerable that I could be in
Speaker 1: the environment. And the molly thing was cool, but I
Speaker 1: was so down for two days afterwards. Yes, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, I was like, what wasn't the day you
Speaker 1: I wasn't dealt But no, no, no, I wasn't. I
Speaker 1: wasn't depressed, but I was just regular again. And the
Speaker 1: problem is, you do molly. It's so great, but like
Speaker 1: it's so good that people are like, oh, you guys
Speaker 1: have been talking a lot about drugs lately. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: number one, I think we're talking a lot a lot
Speaker 1: about it because I think drugs, especially like psychedelic type drugs,
Speaker 1: which Molly is, you know, more synthetic. But like you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know things. Mushroom research. You have to research it.
Speaker 1: You have to be responsible. Yes, Molly does put a
Speaker 1: hole in your brain. You cannot do Molly more than
Speaker 1: like five to ten times in a lifetime. So if
Speaker 1: you're doing molly every weekend, you are fucking up. I
Speaker 1: want to make that very clear. However, I mean it's
Speaker 1: a hundred percent, Like especially American society has put a
Speaker 1: lot of propaganda into the world about like not doing psychedelics,
Speaker 1: because you're gonna unleash this higher power, this creativity that
Speaker 1: the government and now I'm sounding crazy doesn't want you
Speaker 1: to have. And I follow the documentary will reinforce what
Speaker 1: you just believe that you do have to be careful
Speaker 1: with the psychedelic So because that it triggered some mental
Speaker 1: illness from my brother, and we've heard that before. You
Speaker 1: have to be in a you have to be and
Speaker 1: I talked about the whole time, I don't do I'm
Speaker 1: not doing molly is not a Molly's a psychedelic. No,
Speaker 1: it's not mushroom yea that I should not do them right,
Speaker 1: can tell like you know, feelings, but it's not that yet,
Speaker 1: it is not I have too much anxiety and I've
Speaker 1: too much and I already I am predicting that I
Speaker 1: would have a bad trip, So it's like not for me. Well,
Speaker 1: that's why I often talk about like I'm in my
Speaker 1: thirties and I'm so glad I didn't do any drugs
Speaker 1: in my twenties because I and I wouldn't recommend it
Speaker 1: to anyone of your twenties and your twenties you don't
Speaker 1: know yourself well enough and you know something I see
Speaker 1: all these kids doing doing Molley, and so I think
Speaker 1: that's just so young. I just think it's like, it's like,
Speaker 1: if you're doing, if you're hitting that high of a
Speaker 1: high that young, what the funk are you gonna do
Speaker 1: when you're thirty five? What's gonna what's gonna What's gonna
Speaker 1: scratch that itch? You know? I'm like, I would honestly
Speaker 1: be concerned, like what do you have to go? Are
Speaker 1: you doing? How should be developing the emotional and intellectual tools?
Speaker 1: Should know and love yourself before you do these drugs
Speaker 1: and metal about being surprised about these emotions you unearthed,
Speaker 1: because some of these drugs can unearth them, like a
Speaker 1: mushroom experience, and uh, like I had a bad trip
Speaker 1: on mushrooms when I was in Burning Me. I was
Speaker 1: the first time I did it, and uh it was
Speaker 1: it was awesome with the lights and colors initially and
Speaker 1: then not just got really in my head and and
Speaker 1: it was just bad. And it was like I was
Speaker 1: facing every insecurity one after another, and like I couldn't
Speaker 1: stop thinking about it. It was and I had to
Speaker 1: remove myself from the party, and I just like I
Speaker 1: just need to go to sleep. I was talking to
Speaker 1: myself to say, sane. Now, I understand people talk to themselves.
Speaker 1: You don't talk because you're crazy. You talk to me
Speaker 1: is you're trying to stop yourself from going crazy. Hey,
Speaker 1: get it together. Shultz saying that to my Hey, this
Speaker 1: is just mushroom. Like, I don't say that. I'm just
Speaker 1: in there. I always have a pre enduring drug pep
Speaker 1: talk with myself. Yeah. So it's one of those things
Speaker 1: where people it's fun. Don't get me wrong, it's cool.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, be aware that if you
Speaker 1: abuse these things, you could have devastating reactions. What happened
Speaker 1: to your brother if you yeah, he was in the
Speaker 1: He was in insane asylum for for like three weeks
Speaker 1: from what yeah, well he had done. He had done.
Speaker 1: So my brothers had a bunch of like kind of
Speaker 1: traumatic things happened to him. Like you know, we've lived
Speaker 1: in the city obviously during nine eleven, he was in
Speaker 1: middle school, like a couple of blocks away, saw people
Speaker 1: jump out the build and hit the ground. That ship.
Speaker 1: So at a young age, that's gonna suck you up, right,
Speaker 1: So I think, I think if you're someone who's already
Speaker 1: prone to anxiety and then you experience a worst case
Speaker 1: scenario that can justify that anxiety. Ship right now, It's
Speaker 1: like when you get in a car, you're like, do
Speaker 1: you think there's carl crash? Most people can be like,
Speaker 1: what are the odds of a car crash? But when
Speaker 1: you've seen a plane hit of building and people jump
Speaker 1: out of it, you don't care about the odds. You
Speaker 1: don't don't matter, you know. It's just it's like, I
Speaker 1: imagine the same boom it is. It's like being black
Speaker 1: and getting shot by the police. The odds of that
Speaker 1: happening very low, but you've seen it happened to somebody
Speaker 1: and you're black, So you're like, Ship, I'm not playing around.
Speaker 1: I can get killed by the police. Right. So, do
Speaker 1: you have a situation where like he did a lot
Speaker 1: of L S D and he started to funk with
Speaker 1: weed and he you know, I don't And basically he
Speaker 1: did a bunch of these drugs, a lot of mushrooms,
Speaker 1: and he was chasing an experience and he talks about
Speaker 1: on a high intellectual level, but he was chasing experience
Speaker 1: and he kind of got we went into a really
Speaker 1: dark place with the experience, and um, he's still dealing
Speaker 1: with the repercussions of that ship now, like it's not
Speaker 1: all you know, he's Yeah, it's tough for him, really
Speaker 1: tough for him. So that's why I say careful for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean you shouldn't be using it, like you know, like,
Speaker 1: oh I feel lost, like this drug is going to
Speaker 1: be the answer or any time that I'm not enjoying
Speaker 1: like the present life that I'm living in, I'm going
Speaker 1: to escape through this drug. Like I use it very sparingly,
Speaker 1: you know, like you know, to three times a year,
Speaker 1: really stretched out, really make sure you're in a good
Speaker 1: mental state, a safe space physically and emotionally, with one
Speaker 1: other person that I really trust who has used like
Speaker 1: all these kind of things, Like I researched everything, like
Speaker 1: I'm a huge nerd, so like I'm always like looking
Speaker 1: should do though I always read stuff I get it from.
Speaker 1: I get the drug from a trusted stores, like all
Speaker 1: these kinds of things. Uh, it's very important. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: people just like taking drugs for whoever and doing it
Speaker 1: with whoever. And it makes me like I'm so old
Speaker 1: about it, like needs me so nervous. Yeah uh yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: what what we gotta wrap soon? But what what what
Speaker 1: what's this about the standard project I want to hear about?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I put out this, so I filmed
Speaker 1: a special. I filmed a special basically, and the idea
Speaker 1: of the special was I capture what it is to
Speaker 1: be in New York comics. So I did it at
Speaker 1: five different clubs. I did five different sets, and I
Speaker 1: filmed the cab rides in between. Right, oh wow, that's
Speaker 1: a great idea exactly. And I tried to sell it
Speaker 1: and I couldn't sell it. It was a very humbling experience.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I couldn't sell Yeah, I thought I meant
Speaker 1: a decent amount going along, going on, But you know,
Speaker 1: it's tough, and it's one of those industry it's humbling,
Speaker 1: but it's one of those things where it's like, can
Speaker 1: you guys understand this? Because you start something yourself, you
Speaker 1: have to prove the product, you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: if you went to that book dealership with an idea
Speaker 1: for a book before you made this podcast so successful,
Speaker 1: they probably be like, I don't we don't know what
Speaker 1: you're talking about, but you prove that you have this.
Speaker 1: So I guess I didn't prove enough to the stand
Speaker 1: up industry. So I said, you know what, funking, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put out a shorter version of this and prove
Speaker 1: the product and let the people decide. And um so
Speaker 1: I basically cut it down to like seventeen minutes and
Speaker 1: it's four sets, four clubs, one night. That's why I
Speaker 1: call it four for one. And I just put it
Speaker 1: out right on my YouTube YouTube dot com slash the
Speaker 1: Andrew Schultz, and uh, if you could watch it and
Speaker 1: share it and like it, that'd be so cool to watch.
Speaker 1: It's out for everybody to watch spen out for a while,
Speaker 1: and I guess for one, and the goal is really
Speaker 1: just it's just exposure and like proving the product. And
Speaker 1: then I mean if I could get a million views
Speaker 1: and something like that, that's huge leverage in the company.
Speaker 1: And that's really Yeah. I mean, anybody who's listening, you know,
Speaker 1: if you feel like at all bummed out about not
Speaker 1: being able to do certain things of your career, just know,
Speaker 1: like I had, I was leading a sitcom. I've been
Speaker 1: on TV fel last five years and I got a
Speaker 1: very very popular podcast. Motherfucker's tell me no, like there's
Speaker 1: no problem. Yeah, you know what I mean, Like knows
Speaker 1: are out there but is a chance for yes. I
Speaker 1: believe that. I believe that's true. I think that's why
Speaker 1: I credit that. I tell Stephen all the time, because
Speaker 1: he has career stuff that he gets frustrated with. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I've always thought that a no is like oh, challenge accepted. Motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Well that's the best. Just not the right person or
Speaker 1: place for your whatever it is. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of times knows are blessings in disgust as because then
Speaker 1: whenever you get that yes or like, oh, I can't
Speaker 1: even believe I was going to give it to this
Speaker 1: person because this person knows exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have to force your idea onto someone because
Speaker 1: that person is not going to be careful with your
Speaker 1: creative projects. I'm excited to check that out. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: check it out. I think it's I think it's cool.
Speaker 1: I hope everybody likes it. That'd be dope. And your podcast,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I do a podcast, The Brilliant Idiots with
Speaker 1: Charlotte Magne to God and we've got to get you
Speaker 1: guys on the podcast. Absolutely when the book comes out,
Speaker 1: if that works for you, got but work. We got
Speaker 1: a lot of book readers over here idiots. Yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: but um but yeah, check that out. And then I
Speaker 1: just talking about like hearing those and keep on doing.
Speaker 1: I just released a sports podcast with a couple of
Speaker 1: buddies of mine. Uh oh, Cosh and Cosh singing, Caz
Speaker 1: and uh and it hit number one in the sports
Speaker 1: and recreation that's what it's called Flagrant Too and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's just one of those things where it's like
Speaker 1: putting out the special in that seventeen minute form and
Speaker 1: like hearing the feedback and the response made me realize,
Speaker 1: like the funk am I waiting for? Like let's go,
Speaker 1: let's makesh it, Like that's what I did in the
Speaker 1: beginning of my career. That's what I'm right, Like when
Speaker 1: we're hungry and then we get a couple of big
Speaker 1: checks and we start going for real funk that. So
Speaker 1: we put it out and I was blown away the
Speaker 1: second episode we put out. It's still a number one. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm just so Yeah, if you're in sports, you want
Speaker 1: to hear that bullshit talk. It's a lot more ship talking,
Speaker 1: like us joking around than it is analytics. So if
Speaker 1: you just want to hear our opinions, about sports stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: check that out. I'd be cool, dope and getting make art. Guys. Yeahs,
Speaker 1: no burning man. I mean that everybody check it out.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to be in that sense. Should everyone
Speaker 1: who's twenty two go? I mean, honestly, it's all right.
Speaker 1: The principles are radical acceptance, radical self reliance. It sounds radical, yes,
Speaker 1: but the acceptance thing is cute. And have a radical
Speaker 1: condom usage, very radical condom, modern radical economy. There is
Speaker 1: yet orgy tent is an interesting place that is wild.
Speaker 1: You got to check it out. Alright, cool, Well, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for san done with us. This has
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