Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class from how
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Speaker 1: I'm Katie Lambert and I'm Sarah Dowdy. Today we're going
Speaker 1: to start our episode with a housekeeping tip from King Ludwig,
Speaker 1: the second builder of Neuche Bonstein and patron of Wagner.
Speaker 1: Sarah take it from here, all right. So, if you
Speaker 1: enjoy really opulent multi course dinners with your imaginary friends,
Speaker 1: but you don't want a bunch of servants and footman
Speaker 1: interrupting the changing of the course, is interrupting the service,
Speaker 1: you should install a trap door dinner table. So that way,
Speaker 1: when you're done with your plate, or when Louis fourteenth
Speaker 1: is done with his plate, you simply press a button
Speaker 1: and then wait in your settings will descend into the floor,
Speaker 1: and soon enough the whole table will reappear, freshly laid out,
Speaker 1: new food, new plates, and you can get back to
Speaker 1: entertaining your guests. That is a true story, and it's
Speaker 1: no wonder that Ludwig is part of a popularly requested
Speaker 1: trio of topics, the king himself, his castles, and his composer.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of lovable weirdness here in this story,
Speaker 1: and some eccentricities, plus some enormous building projects and bizarre
Speaker 1: royal families, which you know how much we love those,
Speaker 1: and you know who knows. We might even mention our
Speaker 1: most favorite theme of all, which are most loyal listeners
Speaker 1: will know what that is right away. But to start off,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go for another common theme, which is sad
Speaker 1: royal childhoods. So Ludvig the Second, who is also known
Speaker 1: as Louis the Second, was born in Munich at Nimfenburg
Speaker 1: Palace on August, which interestingly was the same day and
Speaker 1: same hour that his grandfather and namesake was born, and
Speaker 1: he is a vital Spock, a member of Europe's longest
Speaker 1: ruling dynasty. They ruled Bavaria continuously from eleven eighty to
Speaker 1: nineteen eighteen, which is when the last of their line
Speaker 1: was forced to abdicate at the end of World War One,
Speaker 1: and initially this family ruled as dukes and duke electors.
Speaker 1: Some were Holy Roman emperors, but by eighteen o six
Speaker 1: their duchy is raised to a kingdom by Napoleon and
Speaker 1: they become kings. Max the First, Ludvig the Second Great
Speaker 1: grandfather is the first vittle spot king, but Livig grandfather,
Speaker 1: King Ludvig the First, is more famous for his womanizing
Speaker 1: than anything else, and he's even decorated the Nippenberg Palace
Speaker 1: with portraits of all these gorgeous society women. It's called
Speaker 1: the Gallery of Beauties. You can still see it today.
Speaker 1: I liked author Michael White described it as a room
Speaker 1: of high class pin ups. But um, this is a
Speaker 1: pretty conservative state, so people would like their king to
Speaker 1: at least keep this discreet. And he loses it completely
Speaker 1: when he meets Lola Montez, who is a beautiful old
Speaker 1: Irish woman who's pretending to be a Spanish aristocrat. She
Speaker 1: is a trip. We have to cover her in a
Speaker 1: later punchet, Yeah, we we might, And they have this
Speaker 1: very open relationship. People really don't like it, and the
Speaker 1: king is forced to abdicate in favor of his son,
Speaker 1: Maximilian the Second, and this is of course Lidvig the
Speaker 1: seconds father. So Maximilian is not a big fan of
Speaker 1: being a king though he would really rather be a
Speaker 1: professor study read books. And he's also not interested in
Speaker 1: his son. So this gives you a little background on
Speaker 1: what Lidvig's childhood is going to be like and his mother,
Speaker 1: Marie of Prussia, is exactly the opposite of her husband
Speaker 1: in every way except one. But she's also completely uninterested
Speaker 1: in her children and spends maybe an hour a day
Speaker 1: with them at the very most. She's athletic and pretty
Speaker 1: and is proud to say that she's never read a book.
Speaker 1: So I don't think she can hang with us there, No,
Speaker 1: not at all. We should also say that Livig's parents
Speaker 1: are cousins, and that his family, aside from his parents
Speaker 1: being cousins, is severely inbred. Another thing to keep in
Speaker 1: mind as we go on. So Little Ludwig becomes heir
Speaker 1: to the throne at two and a half, and life
Speaker 1: is pretty sad for a crown prince. He's lonely, he's neglected.
Speaker 1: He's also pampered though, because every wish must be catered to,
Speaker 1: and he's very undisciplined. And the birth of his brother
Speaker 1: Otto only further splits this very limited attention, and especially
Speaker 1: this is bad when Otto starts to suffer from hallucinations
Speaker 1: and requires a lot more care and attention than Livic himself.
Speaker 1: And his childhood, as Sarah points out, is actually a
Speaker 1: lot like the palace he was born in. It's very formal,
Speaker 1: it's grand, but it's also isolated. And so perhaps it's
Speaker 1: no wonder that he turns to elaborate reimaginings of medieval
Speaker 1: architecture as an adult. But since architecture is such an
Speaker 1: important part of Ludvig's later life, we should into a
Speaker 1: little more detail about his childhood architecture. He grows up
Speaker 1: around the Victuals Box. Official home is in Munich. They
Speaker 1: don't spend or at least Ludvig doesn't spend a terribly
Speaker 1: large amount of time there because being in Munich means
Speaker 1: work in business, and two didn't do a lot of family.
Speaker 1: And Livig instead grows up at Hohenschwangau, which is about
Speaker 1: forty miles away from Munich, and it was a palace
Speaker 1: built by his father, and the walls there are covered
Speaker 1: in murals of German legends and you can actually see
Speaker 1: these today, they're still there. And uh, these legends, along
Speaker 1: with biblical stories, really fuel this poor lonely young boy's imagination.
Speaker 1: So you're bored at home, you read some Bible stories,
Speaker 1: maybe you dress up like a nun. This is what
Speaker 1: he does and are shy imaginative boy is also really
Speaker 1: obsessed with his own power. It's not all these sweet
Speaker 1: imaginative At one point, he tries to strangle his younger
Speaker 1: brother and instead of apologizing, he says that Otto is
Speaker 1: his vassal and had disobeyed him. And he steals from
Speaker 1: a shop and tells the governess it doesn't matter because
Speaker 1: everything will belong to him someday. So very healthy mindset. Yeah, So,
Speaker 1: becoming Crown Princess Ataler was obviously the first major event
Speaker 1: in Livig's life, really shaping who he became in his future.
Speaker 1: But the second major event in his life is his
Speaker 1: discovery of Richard Wagner at age thirteen. And I'm really
Speaker 1: tempted to talk more about the composer in a later
Speaker 1: episode because he's really interesting and really controversial, but for now,
Speaker 1: we're just going to say that Ludvig loved Wagner in
Speaker 1: caps on my outline. Yeah, he wants to be Wagner's
Speaker 1: Swan Knight. He loves the music, he loves the big,
Speaker 1: elaborate theatrical sets, and most of all, he loves the
Speaker 1: stories because, after all, a lot of Wagner's music is
Speaker 1: based on those same Teutonic legends that Lidvig has literally
Speaker 1: grown up seeing around his bedroom walls. Yes, his imagination
Speaker 1: comes to life in a moody teenager. And our moody
Speaker 1: teenager became a moody king when his father died in
Speaker 1: eighteen sixty four, possibly of syphilist This might be our
Speaker 1: other new theme. And eighteen year old Lidvig inherits the throne.
Speaker 1: And he looks like a king. He's very tall, he's
Speaker 1: six four, he's slender, he has a thick, curly black hair.
Speaker 1: He's extremely handsome. He looks like what Prince Charming should be.
Speaker 1: People go crazy when they see him during the funeral procession.
Speaker 1: And he's a romantic hero as well as the king. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it almost only helps that he's so moody and so bookish.
Speaker 1: It adds to this the handsome, brooding men exactly so.
Speaker 1: Like we said earlier, though, he's really obsessed with Wagner,
Speaker 1: and one of the first matters of business when he's
Speaker 1: king is to send for the composer, and the very
Speaker 1: indebted Wagner moves to Munich, makes all these immediate financial
Speaker 1: demands like I need a new theater. King Ludwig, and
Speaker 1: Ludvig is happy to oblige the politicians. However, um freak out.
Speaker 1: To put it in nice historical terms, they're also getting
Speaker 1: really worried, not only because Ldvig is spending so much
Speaker 1: money on this composer, but because Ludvig really loves Wagner
Speaker 1: like I loves loves Yes. He writes sham passionate letters,
Speaker 1: and Wagner, who's smart enough to work his job, returns
Speaker 1: in kind. Wagner at the time is of course hooking
Speaker 1: up with his mistress and future wife, Kalsima, who's the
Speaker 1: daughter of Frm's list and the woman largely responsible for
Speaker 1: later creating the cult of Wagner, and once the team
Speaker 1: king told Wagner that he would give up his king
Speaker 1: ship and come live with him, Wagner realized perhaps things
Speaker 1: have gone a little too far, had to talk him down,
Speaker 1: hides the woman in his bed, and eventually the Bavarian
Speaker 1: cabinet says that enough is enough, and Wagner is kicked
Speaker 1: out after a year. Yeah, we don't want another Lola Montez, everybody,
Speaker 1: so moving on from this early infatuation, Ludwig seeks consolation
Speaker 1: in his best friend who is this cousin Sissy also
Speaker 1: the Empress of Austria, and she's a little out there too,
Speaker 1: like a lot of the victuals box. She suffers from interaxia,
Speaker 1: she suffers from manic depression. But she really understands Ludwig,
Speaker 1: and she understands the problems he's facing and is able
Speaker 1: to talk to him. You know. They write letters to
Speaker 1: each other, and suddenly he's engaged to her little sister, Sophie.
Speaker 1: And you might wonder how this extremely awkward young man
Speaker 1: comes together with this beautiful young woman and their apparent interests.
Speaker 1: Shared interest was Wagner, of course, and I feel like
Speaker 1: today they would meet on some sort of internet message board.
Speaker 1: If we're both attractive and we both love Wagner, we
Speaker 1: should probably get married. So they get their official photos
Speaker 1: made up, they planned the wedding, and then he starts
Speaker 1: to get cold feet, and he pushes back the wedding date.
Speaker 1: He asks his doctor to certify him as unfit to marry,
Speaker 1: and finally he tells Sophie that there is not the
Speaker 1: love which is necessary for a matrimonial union. So burn Sophie,
Speaker 1: And that, of course is because he was probably gay
Speaker 1: and in addition to his obsession with Wagner and his
Speaker 1: secret diaries disclosed liaisons with lots of actors and maybe
Speaker 1: some military officers, and they were destroyed in World War Two.
Speaker 1: But a lot of his inner turmoil seems to have
Speaker 1: come from guilt about his sexuality, because he was a
Speaker 1: devout Catholic. But this is an all to say that
Speaker 1: Ludvig is totally isolated from matters of state. At this
Speaker 1: point of what we've described so far might sound like
Speaker 1: somebody who isn't going to work every day, um, But
Speaker 1: that isolation really comes later. In eighteen sixty six, he
Speaker 1: actually enters the Seven Weeks War on the side of
Speaker 1: Austria against Prussia. UM. But at the defeat of Austria
Speaker 1: he signs an alliance with Prussia and works to reconcile
Speaker 1: these two big powers in Germany. So this alliance with
Speaker 1: Prussia comes into play in eighteen seventy when there's a
Speaker 1: war against France and he sticks with Prussia, avoiding a
Speaker 1: potential Franco Austrian Bavarian alliance and Prussia wins, and then
Speaker 1: at the urging of Bismarck, Ludvig actually helps put out
Speaker 1: the call to all the other princes of Germany to
Speaker 1: unite into this German Empire under the rule of the
Speaker 1: Prussian king, who is from there on out known as
Speaker 1: the Kaiser. But Ludvig is kind of disappointed with aspects
Speaker 1: of this new arrangement. It's not exactly what he had
Speaker 1: hoped it would be. His territory isn't expanded, and you know,
Speaker 1: as as one of the kings who's not the Kaiser,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have as much power as he liked. And
Speaker 1: he thought there would maybe be some sort of sharing
Speaker 1: of the crown between his state and Prussia, and that's
Speaker 1: not how it worked out. So he's still King of Bavaria,
Speaker 1: but now it's just a state and not a kingdom.
Speaker 1: And again he's a bit of a figurehead, so you
Speaker 1: know why bother he retreats into increased solitude. And what
Speaker 1: do you do when you don't really have a kingdom
Speaker 1: to run, you don't have your composer to live with,
Speaker 1: and you really don't want to get married. You build
Speaker 1: your own kublican right or three of them. Soldvig builds
Speaker 1: three castles and designs three more, and they occupy him
Speaker 1: during his increasingly isolated life. That starts in the eighteen
Speaker 1: seventies and from this point on he's mostly alone. He
Speaker 1: dines alone, he goes to his theatrical performance as a own.
Speaker 1: He switches to this vampire like nocturnal schedule where he
Speaker 1: gets up at five pm UM. But his first major
Speaker 1: building project, he doesn't. He doesn't start off right away
Speaker 1: with a huge castle. He starts off with a remodeling project,
Speaker 1: and that's redecorating his father's castle and his childhood home
Speaker 1: at hohen Schwamgau. And he must have caught a nice
Speaker 1: view from there because he starts to plan a bigger project,
Speaker 1: which of course is Nisch von Stein across the lake.
Speaker 1: And this is seriously the Disney Castle. And while it's
Speaker 1: not the most elaborate of his creations, it's definitely the
Speaker 1: most recognizable. It's a reimagining of what a medieval castle
Speaker 1: looks like with plenty of French Rococo and Bavarian Baroque
Speaker 1: thrown in. And it's planned by a theatrical designer, not
Speaker 1: an architect, and it's basically Wagner themed, with Swan shaped
Speaker 1: taps and an indoor grotto from Venusberg. The opening apparition
Speaker 1: in Wagner's opera Townhouser, and it takes seventeen years to construct.
Speaker 1: It's actually never finished, and Ludvig only spends about six
Speaker 1: months their total all added up together. So the next
Speaker 1: place he builds is Linderhof, which is of homey or
Speaker 1: sort of residents, and it's about twelve miles from Nu Schwanstein,
Speaker 1: and he builds it between eighteen sixty nine and seventy eight,
Speaker 1: and it's actually modeled on China on though so not
Speaker 1: terribly homy to most of the still an elaborate palace.
Speaker 1: He really liked the Bourbons. His coaches and his slaves
Speaker 1: were staffed by coachman dressed in reproduction Louis the fourteenth Livery.
Speaker 1: He would spend about two weeks of every month at
Speaker 1: this house and had a harmonium set up for Wagner
Speaker 1: along with that disappearing table we mentioned in the intro.
Speaker 1: But it's here that he starts all the weird stuff,
Speaker 1: waking up at five pm, dining with his imaginary friends,
Speaker 1: then going out for midnight carriage rides as he again
Speaker 1: just retreats more and more from society, but he sticks
Speaker 1: with the Wagner theme for this place. To Linderhoff has
Speaker 1: the Venus Grotto another Venus grotto imagined again from town Hauser,
Speaker 1: and he would row around in the man made lake
Speaker 1: on this gilded seashell. You can look up pictures of this.
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool. Sara sent me one today and we
Speaker 1: decided that might be a better use of our time.
Speaker 1: And the lake is actually illuminated by one of Bavaria's
Speaker 1: first power plants, because who wants a dark, creepy cave
Speaker 1: made out of plaster needs to have all these cool
Speaker 1: blue and red lights. It also had a moorish pavilion
Speaker 1: with a peacock theme perfect for opium smoking if you're
Speaker 1: so inclined, and a hunting cabin with plenty of faux
Speaker 1: wood stumps and fake trees again Disney Alert. But his
Speaker 1: final big project was Haren Hemsey, which was constructed between
Speaker 1: eighteen seventy eight and eighteen eighty five. And this time
Speaker 1: you really honors the Bourbons and even tries to upstage
Speaker 1: them because the castle is a copy of their PSI,
Speaker 1: only bigger and better. Yeah, it has an even grander
Speaker 1: hall of mirrors where he would read under the light
Speaker 1: of seventy nine candelabras with one thousand, eight hundred forty
Speaker 1: eight candles. It seems like you need a lot of
Speaker 1: servants for that. Or he would take a bath in
Speaker 1: this marble tub that took eight hours to heat and fill.
Speaker 1: And we didn't mention this yet either. The castle was
Speaker 1: built on an island in the middle of an Alpine lake,
Speaker 1: a very exclusive island. I would imagine, a very exclusive island.
Speaker 1: It's gonna make it harder to build too, if you
Speaker 1: have to row everything out to the island well, and
Speaker 1: this castle is his downfall. Only twenty of the seventy
Speaker 1: rooms are finished. It cost more to build than nishevon
Speaker 1: Stein and Linderhoff together, and he only spends nine nights there,
Speaker 1: so multiply these candles by nine nights exactly. So this
Speaker 1: makes us come to the question how did Ludwig pay
Speaker 1: for all this? And initially he financed these castles himself.
Speaker 1: He saw himself as a modern son king, and accordingly
Speaker 1: he thought he needed to celebrate this through the construction
Speaker 1: of castles through the patronage of artists such as Wagner
Speaker 1: and others. But it's not that long before he runs
Speaker 1: out of money. Obviously, he starts to borrow in his
Speaker 1: own pay way way ahead. He tries to get loans
Speaker 1: from the Shawl of Iran, from the Turkish Sultan, from
Speaker 1: the Duke of Westminster. He even orders his cabinet to
Speaker 1: find loans and is very threatening and forceful when they're
Speaker 1: coming up short. And so by eighteen eighty six he's
Speaker 1: being sued for debt, which is terribly embarrassing, and he
Speaker 1: has this hair brand plan to rob a London bank.
Speaker 1: Doesn't work out, so the government is starting to get
Speaker 1: seriously worried, like is our king crazy or is he
Speaker 1: just spending way too much money? Either way, this has
Speaker 1: got to stop. He was certainly lonely, he told an
Speaker 1: aide de camp. Sometimes I call one of the domestic
Speaker 1: servants or postilions and asked him to tell me about
Speaker 1: his home and his family, otherwise I would completely forget
Speaker 1: the art of speech. And in his private journals he
Speaker 1: appeals to dead rulers for help. Louis the fourteenth, Charles
Speaker 1: the first of England. These are his friends, and it's
Speaker 1: interesting a lot of the stuff I read about these
Speaker 1: castles and about Ludvig. Apparently the tour guides refrain from
Speaker 1: calling him the mad King anymore, which has long been
Speaker 1: his nickname. It makes sense. It's not a very nice
Speaker 1: thing to call someone. Sorry for using it in our title.
Speaker 1: Little Eccentric is more often used today. But his family
Speaker 1: definitely has some mental health issues. His brother Otto, who
Speaker 1: we mentioned at the beginning, is schizophrenic and he's put
Speaker 1: into an asylum. His aunt Alexandra is put into a
Speaker 1: convent because she's positive she's swallowed a glass grand piano.
Speaker 1: But if Livig is crazy, he's very lucid at times too.
Speaker 1: He writes these eloquent letters, he studies French history and literature,
Speaker 1: and he's even politically astute when he actually tries, you know,
Speaker 1: when he's not worrying about his castle castles or his
Speaker 1: opera and actually gets to work. Well. His best friend,
Speaker 1: I think, says it best Sissy, and she said he's
Speaker 1: not mad enough to be locked up, but to abnormal
Speaker 1: to manage comfortably in the world with reasonable people. So
Speaker 1: that's the assessment from the person who knew knew him
Speaker 1: better than anyone. Yeah. So finally the fiddles Box, worried
Speaker 1: that Livig would bankrupt their family, go to the Prime
Speaker 1: Minister and say that, well, you know, we'd be okay
Speaker 1: if you deposed the king, and so a panel of
Speaker 1: doctors declare living insane without seeing him. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like the tabloid um. And the noted chiatrist doctor Bernhard
Speaker 1: von Gutten is one of these, and so on June tenth,
Speaker 1: Prince Leopold, who is Ludwig's uncle, declares himself Prince Regent
Speaker 1: and Otto will be king officially, Otto the first and
Speaker 1: Lidvig is at Nisch von Stein when the delegation finally
Speaker 1: comes to arrest him, and the soldiers and peasants try
Speaker 1: to stop them, try to save Ludwig, but he's led away.
Speaker 1: He's taken to the viddles Box castle Berg, which is
Speaker 1: on Lake Starnberg, and he's attended there by the doctor,
Speaker 1: and that's when things start to get kind of weird.
Speaker 1: On June thirteenth, he asks to attend mass but is refused,
Speaker 1: and later in the day, after a huge meal lots
Speaker 1: of wine, he gets Dr Gooden to walk along the
Speaker 1: lake with him, but they don't come back, and a
Speaker 1: search party finds that the king has drowned face up,
Speaker 1: which is strange because he was a very good swimmer.
Speaker 1: He was only in four ft of water. Dr Gooden
Speaker 1: is also dead, so what happened there? Obviously a lot
Speaker 1: of theories about this, and the main assumption for many
Speaker 1: years is that the king committed suicide because he had
Speaker 1: no future. He was essentially a prisoner, and Dr Guten
Speaker 1: drowned trying to save him. Others have suggested that he
Speaker 1: was perhaps trying to cross the lake to meet people
Speaker 1: sent by Sissy and escaped to Austria and escaped to her,
Speaker 1: and then others say he was murdered, maybe even that
Speaker 1: he was shot and not drowned at all, And we
Speaker 1: would probably no more I feel if we opened his
Speaker 1: crypt in Munich at St. Michael's. All of the victuals
Speaker 1: box are interred there and they have identical cripts, but
Speaker 1: his stands out because it's always covered with flowers. And
Speaker 1: he's still very popular despite the fact that he nearly
Speaker 1: bankrupted his family. His castles are to a among Bavaria's
Speaker 1: main attractions. Who doesn't want to go see the Sleeping
Speaker 1: Beauty Castle? Yeah? Well, and interestingly they started to become
Speaker 1: these major attractions. I think within weeks after his death
Speaker 1: people were paying to go to them. So in the
Speaker 1: long run, it's been a pretty good investment for Bavaria.
Speaker 1: I'd say Ludvig's own memorial is far simpler than any
Speaker 1: of these castles. It's across in the lake at the
Speaker 1: spot where he drowned that Sarah and I were talking about.
Speaker 1: It's always so strange for us to talk about these
Speaker 1: subjects who are supposedly so well loved. We keep reading,
Speaker 1: you know, the well loved so and so, but we
Speaker 1: have no idea how these people are actually viewed in
Speaker 1: their own country. Yeah, if you're in Bavaria, let us
Speaker 1: know what you think about Ludwig. It always says a
Speaker 1: little funny thing. Supposedly you people love this guy, but
Speaker 1: you know, maybe not. It's easy enough to see though,
Speaker 1: why he would be so well loved. He's a gentle
Speaker 1: pacifist king. He's extremely eccentric, but that only makes him
Speaker 1: more interesting. It's also always interesting, like we talked about
Speaker 1: in our Emperor Norton podcast, to try to diagnose people
Speaker 1: posthumously and figure out what sort of mental illness Ludwig
Speaker 1: was grappling with any was in fact anything at all,
Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons I think people are
Speaker 1: so interested him. That end, his gorgeous castle and this
Speaker 1: mysterious fate that we simply do not have the answer to. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: that mention of Norton brings us to listener mail. So
Speaker 1: our first emails from Derek in California, and he was
Speaker 1: of course writing about the Emperor Norton podcast and he
Speaker 1: actually mentioned that he's seen Norton's grave that would want
Speaker 1: cemetery before. But his message was mostly about how his
Speaker 1: father is a part of the historical society e Clampus Vitas,
Speaker 1: and he said that they have gatherings that go on
Speaker 1: for a couple of days, they involve a fair amount
Speaker 1: of alcohol, and that this idea itself was formed during
Speaker 1: the gold Rush. But probably the most interesting part is
Speaker 1: he said that one of their slogans is no Known Cure,
Speaker 1: which means that after you complete your initiation ceremony, which
Speaker 1: is kept secret to everyone outside of the group, then
Speaker 1: you were a member for life. So he's hoping for
Speaker 1: a podcast on this group. Um, let us know what
Speaker 1: you guys think. Cool historical society, but I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe we should form our our own historical a drinking
Speaker 1: one or irregular type. I have another Grave of visiting email.
Speaker 1: It's from Kyle and he recently went on a tour
Speaker 1: of St. Louis Cemetery number one and visited Marie Lebo's
Speaker 1: grave and sent us all kinds of pictures. But he
Speaker 1: also said while on the tour, the tour guide told
Speaker 1: the story of the wishing on her grave. She said
Speaker 1: that when your wish came true, you were supposed to
Speaker 1: come back and circle your exes, and none of the
Speaker 1: exes are circled, as you can see from the pictures
Speaker 1: he sent us. She did encourage us to make a
Speaker 1: wish on her tomb, though without the desecration part. And
Speaker 1: he said also that he'd included a picture of a
Speaker 1: ridiculous looking pyramid shaped tomb that is the future resting
Speaker 1: place of Nicholas Cage. Oh dear, it's it's hard to
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