Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff you missed in History Class from how
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Speaker 1: I'm Katie Lambert and I'm Sarah Dowdy. And most of
Speaker 1: us know a little bit about our topic for today,
Speaker 1: the Mutiny on the Bounty, and we know there's this
Speaker 1: outraged group of sailors and the mutiny against their captain
Speaker 1: and two amazing stories in sue. And the first is
Speaker 1: that the mutineers, with a group of Tahitian women, end
Speaker 1: up establishing a colony on this remote Pacific island that
Speaker 1: still exists today, the island and the colony obviously. And
Speaker 1: then the other is that the cast off captain and
Speaker 1: his loyalists navigate thousands of miles to safety and make
Speaker 1: it all the way back to England eventually. But that's
Speaker 1: about all most people know well, and our understanding of
Speaker 1: the people involved isn't quite as good as our understanding
Speaker 1: of the basics. And that's partly due to the misleading
Speaker 1: but entertaining film portrayals of the stories to leading men
Speaker 1: in film, Captain Bligh and our mutineer, Fletcher Christian. Yeah,
Speaker 1: most of the films depict Bligh as this hard nosed
Speaker 1: bully and Christian is a dashing hero, but those depictions
Speaker 1: aren't necessarily correct in times movies lie. Yeah. It turns out, though,
Speaker 1: that the films weren't the first to skew it that way,
Speaker 1: with with one as the hero and one as this
Speaker 1: mean old captain, and the two men's respective reputations actually
Speaker 1: started to grow shortly after the mutiny itself when some
Speaker 1: of the participants are brought back to England for justice
Speaker 1: and try to skew the story and save their hides
Speaker 1: by defaming your captain. And it's these interesting back stories
Speaker 1: and others that continue centuries after the mutiny that made
Speaker 1: our listener, Catherine in London suggests the topics. So we're
Speaker 1: going to start our Shian alright, So the famous mutiny
Speaker 1: happens in the Pacific Islands in seventeen eighty nine. But
Speaker 1: before we get into that, we have to understand why
Speaker 1: the ship was there in the first place. It wasn't
Speaker 1: on your ordinary run of the mill mission. No, it
Speaker 1: was a culinary mission. And to understand we have to
Speaker 1: go back to seventeen sixty nine when Captain James Cook's ship,
Speaker 1: the Endeavor, discovered the breadfruit in Tahiti and Joseph Banks,
Speaker 1: a famous botanist, on board to Conne And several years
Speaker 1: after this, England had a bit of a food crisis,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't about feeding their own people, but about
Speaker 1: feeding their slaves in Jamaica and the lesser Antilles. And
Speaker 1: they were wondering, what can we feed all of these
Speaker 1: people with that's cheap and easy to grow in the Caribbean.
Speaker 1: And uh, part of the problem here was that they
Speaker 1: didn't have the North American colonies anymore producing loads of
Speaker 1: food and fish to to feed these big lave populations.
Speaker 1: So botanist Banks suggested the bread fruit. But of course
Speaker 1: that's in Tahiti, so someone would have to go there,
Speaker 1: take saplings and cuttings and then attempt to propagate the
Speaker 1: tree in the West Indies. And by seventy seven, at
Speaker 1: very adamant, Banks finally convinced the king to sponsor this mission.
Speaker 1: So who would they put in charge, Good old reliable
Speaker 1: William Bly. And William Bly had been in the navy
Speaker 1: for quite some time. He was born to a customs
Speaker 1: officer in seventeen fifty four, probably in Plymouth, England, and
Speaker 1: he joined the Royal Navy as a teen and rose
Speaker 1: pretty fast under the service of Captain Cook, who we
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, and Bligh was even there when Cook was
Speaker 1: bludgeoned to death by natives in what is now the
Speaker 1: Hawaiian Islands, so that would be an unfortunate thing to witness,
Speaker 1: but he also learned a lot from Cook, and after
Speaker 1: returning to England and getting married and having kids, he
Speaker 1: left the Royal Navy and became a commander of merchant ships,
Speaker 1: which was a really good way to make a lot
Speaker 1: of money and to have a bit of an easier
Speaker 1: career than sailing all over the world for the Navy. Right,
Speaker 1: but he came out of retirement to serve on this
Speaker 1: bread fruit mission and his vessel would be the two
Speaker 1: d and fifteen ton Bethia renamed the Bounty, and he
Speaker 1: accepted the mission. But it didn't turn out to be
Speaker 1: the prestigious, well funded scientific expedition he hoped it would be.
Speaker 1: The ship was tiny, he didn't get the title of
Speaker 1: master and commander, and he didn't have the security and
Speaker 1: commissioned officers that should have come with that kind of trip.
Speaker 1: But nevertheless, he's got a major trip underway, and one
Speaker 1: of the first men he recruits is Fletcher Christian who's
Speaker 1: served him well before and has connections to his family. However, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we have this really bizarre mission to get the
Speaker 1: bread fruit. Not of particularly popular mission, but nevertheless. It
Speaker 1: sets off December, after delays of weeks because of unsuitable weather,
Speaker 1: so a bad start almost right away. But the ship
Speaker 1: leaves from Spithead, England, and the plan is to go
Speaker 1: to Tahiti by way of South America, sailing around the
Speaker 1: Cape Horn, and they near the cape by late March,
Speaker 1: but the weather is so bad that they make a detour.
Speaker 1: And this detour is just insane if you get the
Speaker 1: more around the world. Yeah, if you get mad about
Speaker 1: having to go a few blocks out of your way,
Speaker 1: take note here. Their detour involves going around the Cape
Speaker 1: of Good Hope, which is in Africa, obviously, and it
Speaker 1: takes until May for them to get there. They stop
Speaker 1: at Cape Town, refit their ship, reload their supplies, and
Speaker 1: head on their way. And Blind may have been disappointed
Speaker 1: with the initial expedition, but things are actually going well
Speaker 1: so far, especially considering their bad weather and the long delay.
Speaker 1: The men are in good health or how been a
Speaker 1: lot of injuries. He even loans money to Christian while
Speaker 1: they're in Africa, which Bli was a little bit of
Speaker 1: a tight wad, so that's really a big deal. And
Speaker 1: from the Cape they headed to Tasmania, which is where
Speaker 1: their troubles began. They have a man die after a
Speaker 1: blood letting, and some of the other men become a
Speaker 1: little insolent, but still they press on. They get to
Speaker 1: Tahiti October, and when they arrive in Tahiti, the islanders
Speaker 1: come pouring aboard the ship, and this is a relatively
Speaker 1: happy time, perhaps one of the last truly happy times
Speaker 1: on this mission. Bli has been to the islands before.
Speaker 1: He really likes Tahiti. He gets along well with the
Speaker 1: native people and he even calls Tahiti the paradise of
Speaker 1: the world. And he also gets to work on his mission,
Speaker 1: which is of course securing the bread fruit plants and
Speaker 1: the trees. So he gets permission from the island chiefs
Speaker 1: to transplant and builds a place to put the plants
Speaker 1: and let them grow, and then hangs to type for
Speaker 1: about five months to see if the plants take and
Speaker 1: to wait out the rainy season. And his men don't
Speaker 1: seem to mind Tahiti of course is gorgeous and they
Speaker 1: like the native women, but not all of their tensions
Speaker 1: smelt away. Three of the men go missing with arms
Speaker 1: and ammo. They aren't found for three weeks. Bli gets grumpy,
Speaker 1: of course, to find that his orders aren't carried out.
Speaker 1: The men are lacks about important issues, um the spare sales,
Speaker 1: rot and mildew for examp. Pretty major problems happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a big deal. But finally, on April five, the
Speaker 1: bounty is ready to leave with its one thousand, fifteen saplings.
Speaker 1: So by the eleventh of April, the ship anchors at
Speaker 1: the rather ironically named Friendly Islands. Because not long after
Speaker 1: they leave their Bli and Christian begin to argue and
Speaker 1: not friendly, No, it's not friendly. This is according to
Speaker 1: a later account. But things get worse by the twenty
Speaker 1: one and that's when Christian is hard to say, Sir,
Speaker 1: your abuse is so bad that I cannot do my
Speaker 1: duty with any pleasure. I've been in hell for weeks
Speaker 1: with you, and by April the two are fighting again.
Speaker 1: Blige is disappointed that Christian let native men scare him,
Speaker 1: and he's furious that the watch let a Native diver
Speaker 1: make off with a small anchor, and that brings us
Speaker 1: to our last straw, which was Blige's manhunt over stolen coconuts,
Speaker 1: which sounds absolutely ridiculous, but I think you have to
Speaker 1: consider these people being in such close quarters with each
Speaker 1: other for so long and an already tense situation ready
Speaker 1: to go home, stolen coconuts become a really big deal.
Speaker 1: But Blithe specifically implicates Christian before imposing this ration on Yams,
Speaker 1: and it just devastates Christian. Apparently he's seemed crying and
Speaker 1: BLI it's not as big of a deal for him.
Speaker 1: He actually doesn't stay angry for long. He invites Christian
Speaker 1: to dine with him that night. Christian uh doesn't get
Speaker 1: over it so quickly, though, because pre dawn on April,
Speaker 1: according to Bligh's account, Christian comes in with other men,
Speaker 1: seizes him, ties him up and threatens to kill him,
Speaker 1: and they haul him naked except for a shirt, onto
Speaker 1: the deck where he's placed on the launch vessel and
Speaker 1: joined by eighteen others who were loyal to the captain,
Speaker 1: and they're given some supplies roum about five days worth
Speaker 1: of food, water, some tools, and a compass and four
Speaker 1: cutlass is tossed in at the last minute. Uh, three
Speaker 1: people loyal to BLI are actually detained on board, and
Speaker 1: that'll come into play later. But Bli is there trying
Speaker 1: to reason with Christian at the last minute. Here he
Speaker 1: knows what's about to happen to him, and he knows
Speaker 1: that it most likely means death and death for the
Speaker 1: men on this little skiff. He tries to remind Christian
Speaker 1: that he's held his children back in England, that he's
Speaker 1: been his mentor this whole time, and asks if this
Speaker 1: is proper repayment for his kindness, and Christian says that
Speaker 1: Captain Bly, that is the thing I am in hell.
Speaker 1: I am in Hell. So Christian is pretty tortured by
Speaker 1: this decision to mutiny against his captain. Other men at
Speaker 1: the trial substantiate this account, and it's possible that Christian
Speaker 1: had considered slipping off the ship in a raft alone,
Speaker 1: which would have been suicidal, but was talked into mutiny instead.
Speaker 1: And while a movie might end there, our podcast will not.
Speaker 1: So first we're going to catch up with the captain
Speaker 1: post mutiny. Things look really bleak. This tiny boat, lots
Speaker 1: of guys, not much food, and they're sailing through mostly
Speaker 1: uncharted water. Certain death, yes, certainty death. It seems like um.
Speaker 1: But even though Bligh isn't the best people person, maybe
Speaker 1: not the best captain for no managerial skills negotiating with folks,
Speaker 1: he's a really great navigator. And from his tiny little
Speaker 1: glimpses he's had of of charted waters that the waters
Speaker 1: that actually are charted, he's able to navigate thousands of
Speaker 1: miles back to safety. What he's done is is pretty fantastic,
Speaker 1: and they stop on a volcanic island, but when one
Speaker 1: of them was killed by natives, Blies determined not to
Speaker 1: stop again, so to tea more or death. As Sarah
Speaker 1: wrote in her outline, but the problem would be that
Speaker 1: Teamore is about three thousand, six hundred miles away. And
Speaker 1: the other thing is everyone on the boat kind of
Speaker 1: hates each other, which is going to be a running
Speaker 1: theme for the rest of the podcast. They bicker and
Speaker 1: argue with each other the whole way, and of course
Speaker 1: they're starving too, so they have a lot of good
Speaker 1: reasons to be on the grumpy side. Somewhat Miraculously, they
Speaker 1: reached Teamore June four nine, and the English Chronicle calls
Speaker 1: the navigation of his little skiff through so dangerous a sea,
Speaker 1: a matchless undertaking that seems beyond the verge of probability.
Speaker 1: And from there they go into Jakarta and eventually find
Speaker 1: a ride all the way back to Gland, and Bligh
Speaker 1: is hailed as a hero and he writes a narrative
Speaker 1: which is very popular, and he also gets a new job.
Speaker 1: Still with the bread fruit. You think you would be
Speaker 1: breadfruit sick of bread fruit by this point, But um,
Speaker 1: this time around, the mission is going to be different.
Speaker 1: He's going to have lieutenants, he's going to have marines
Speaker 1: for security. I think the Royal Navy has realized that
Speaker 1: a mission of this size should have been managed better.
Speaker 1: Oh and it's payback time. The Royal Navy also wants
Speaker 1: to hunt it down our mutineers, if there are any
Speaker 1: mutineers left to find, which brings us to our next question,
Speaker 1: what happened to the mutineers? So in the Navy commissions
Speaker 1: Captain Edward Edwards and the Pandora to find the surviving
Speaker 1: mutineers in the Pacific, and one of the Bligh skiff
Speaker 1: survivors comes along to presumably to help identify the men
Speaker 1: and to talk to them and probably bring out their
Speaker 1: guilt a little too, if this is the guy you
Speaker 1: tossed into a boat not too long ago. Face to
Speaker 1: face encounter. When the ship arrives in Tahiti, three bounty
Speaker 1: mutineers swim out to it. They're so ready to go home,
Speaker 1: and they're arrested and chained, while the other men are
Speaker 1: rounded up and put into the prison hut on deck,
Speaker 1: which they called Pandora's Box, which is pretty clever, and
Speaker 1: one of the survivors tells Edwards how the men got there,
Speaker 1: and he pieces together more from the journals of the
Speaker 1: captured men, but the basics are that hatred and jealousy
Speaker 1: began immediately after the mutiny, with some men thinking that
Speaker 1: Christian favored his friends among the other mutineers. So the
Speaker 1: ship initially anchors on a tiny island south of Thiti,
Speaker 1: and because they're pretty short on supplies, they head back
Speaker 1: to Tahiti and load up on livestock as well as
Speaker 1: a bunch of Tahitian people, women, men, boys, and one girl,
Speaker 1: and then head back to their tiny island and they
Speaker 1: try to live there for about three months before the
Speaker 1: in fighting again, with the more it gets insufferable and
Speaker 1: Christian agrees to take some of the men back to Tahiti,
Speaker 1: and he takes sixteen of them back, implying that he'll
Speaker 1: linger nearby the island on the ship for about a
Speaker 1: day or so before slipping off. That he doesn't doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: He leaves in the middle of the night, essentially kidnapping
Speaker 1: the women who were on board the ship. One even
Speaker 1: jumps overboard and swims back from beyond the coral reef
Speaker 1: when she realizes what's happening, and sadly, of the sixteen
Speaker 1: left in Tahiti, two are murdered. So back to our
Speaker 1: Captain Edwards. He keeps hunting for Christian and his band
Speaker 1: of men, but he can't find them. He eventually gives
Speaker 1: up and starts to head home, but runs his ship
Speaker 1: aground on Australia's Great Barrier Reef. Thirty one of his
Speaker 1: men drowned and four prisoners die, so only ten prisoners
Speaker 1: make it back to England where they will be tried together,
Speaker 1: and the prosecution rests on three points. These men didn't
Speaker 1: try to stop the mutiny, they didn't get into the
Speaker 1: launch with BLI, and they didn't try to get to
Speaker 1: England after the mutiny, but hid instead, And there's still
Speaker 1: more fighting among the defendants over who did what, because
Speaker 1: obviously this is the time to implicate your fellows. He
Speaker 1: was the guy with the weapon. It wasn't me. I
Speaker 1: was dragged into the whole thing by Christian. You can imagine.
Speaker 1: It goes on and on, and four of the men
Speaker 1: have letters from Bli declaring them innocent, so this court
Speaker 1: martial for them is pretty much a formality. They'll be okay.
Speaker 1: Three are virtually assured death because they had all been
Speaker 1: seen with arms. Everyone can agree that these three guys
Speaker 1: were bearing arms, and three are kind of up in
Speaker 1: the air, especially one named Peter Hayward, who is the
Speaker 1: only officer charge, and he was only fifteen at the
Speaker 1: time of the mutiny. He's from a really well connected
Speaker 1: family though, and says that he's young and confused at
Speaker 1: the time of the mutiny, that he had been sleeping
Speaker 1: below decks so hadn't been able to react until it
Speaker 1: was a bit too late, and he didn't want to
Speaker 1: join the launch because it was so overloaded. But interestingly too,
Speaker 1: it's his testimony that kind of helps build up the
Speaker 1: legend of Bligh as a sadistic incompetent captain. Something that
Speaker 1: will help hey would get off the hook. And he,
Speaker 1: of course isn't there to defend his own name. He's
Speaker 1: on bread Fruit Mission Part two, so that's the only
Speaker 1: account that people are going by really. So ultimately one
Speaker 1: of the prisoners gets off on a legal technicality, two
Speaker 1: are pardoned, including Hayward, and then three hang at Portsmouth
Speaker 1: Harbor and their bodies are displayed for two hours in
Speaker 1: the rain. Just a warning to other wood, message to you.
Speaker 1: So Bli's second bread fruit mission is successful. He secures
Speaker 1: two thousand one plants. He manages to get six hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy eight of them to the West Indies and
Speaker 1: there he delivers them at St. Vincent and Jamaica. And
Speaker 1: he was delayed air by the start of the French Revolution,
Speaker 1: but eventually returned and continues his up and down career.
Speaker 1: Being gone for the trial was very unfortunate for his reputation,
Speaker 1: since a bit of a pamphlet war started not only
Speaker 1: with Hayward's claims against his character, but Christian's brother, a
Speaker 1: law professor at Cambridge, who interviews the crew members to
Speaker 1: show problems with the command. And that's where he gets
Speaker 1: his nickname the Bounty Bastard, which haunts him for the
Speaker 1: rest of his life. But catching up with Christian and
Speaker 1: his men, what happens to them? Captain Edwards is never
Speaker 1: able to find them, presumably they're all dead. They don't
Speaker 1: make it, But the second act of this story continues
Speaker 1: in eighteen ten, when the American ship Topaz and Captain
Speaker 1: Folger find this Englishman Alexander Smith also known as John Adams,
Speaker 1: on Pitcaren Island in the South Pacific. So what's he
Speaker 1: doing here? He's claiming he's a bounty survivor. He tells
Speaker 1: how the group of mutineers, Tahitian women and male Tahitian
Speaker 1: servants landed there in and stripped and burned the bounty
Speaker 1: to cover their tracks. In fighting, once again, it kills
Speaker 1: off almost everyone, with Christian getting shot in the neck
Speaker 1: with a pistol ball, although other rumors do have Christian
Speaker 1: escaping Pitcaren and returning to England probably unlikely. It seems
Speaker 1: like infighting is our general trend here and we should
Speaker 1: probably go and going at the pistol ball. But just
Speaker 1: because most of the men have killed each other off
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that this island is devoid of a population.
Speaker 1: There has been a lot of repopulating going on at
Speaker 1: the same time, and the island now has thirty five inhabitants,
Speaker 1: and Smith is their leader, and the first to be
Speaker 1: born on the island is actually Christian's own son. And
Speaker 1: so this new expedition finds a twenty year old Thursday
Speaker 1: October Christian, the descendant of Fletcher, and a Tahitian woman,
Speaker 1: a name we had a lot of fun with earlier
Speaker 1: to day. Some of the settlers eventually immigrate to Norfolk Island,
Speaker 1: east of Australia, and many of them still live there today.
Speaker 1: But others still live on pit Karen, where they speak
Speaker 1: English and pitt Kern, a mix of Tahitian and eighteenth
Speaker 1: century English, which sounds pretty cool. And they trade with
Speaker 1: ships that come by or sell their stuff online. But
Speaker 1: a few years ago they had a scandal when numerous
Speaker 1: men were arrested and charged with abusing underage girls. I'd
Speaker 1: read a big article in Vanity Fair about it, called
Speaker 1: Trouble in Paradise, which you can find online. Sarah read
Speaker 1: some other accounts, yeah, and NPR story about the journalist
Speaker 1: Kathy Marks who had unearthed this whole history, which apparently
Speaker 1: stretched back for generations, at least three generations of abuse.
Speaker 1: That's just a side note for us. We're going to
Speaker 1: go to the more popular game of what went wrong?
Speaker 1: So why was there this mutiny in the first place?
Speaker 1: That's the big popular question, and one myth to debunk
Speaker 1: is that Bli and Christian had this secret, illicit relationship
Speaker 1: and that's why Christian just got so angry at Bligh
Speaker 1: and mutinied. He wasn't Hell. He wasn't Hell. Yeah, exactly. So.
Speaker 1: The historian who first suggested this idea retracted it later
Speaker 1: after she reassessed the size of the ship and figured
Speaker 1: that there was no way you could have conducted a
Speaker 1: secret affair aboard a vessels so small. And this mutiny
Speaker 1: also didn't happen because Bli was too strict. In his
Speaker 1: captain's log, he had noted that he hadn't punished anyone
Speaker 1: until several months in, and he also noted that he'd
Speaker 1: hoped to complete the journey without it flogging, and those
Speaker 1: types of punishment weren't something that he relied on. That
Speaker 1: was a sign of trouble for him. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: really pretty light on corporal punishment as far as other
Speaker 1: captains in the Pacific went. He's a pretty progressive captain.
Speaker 1: According to Caroline Alexander, who is a historian. He has
Speaker 1: written several articles in books on the subject, and she
Speaker 1: said that especially in terms of food and sleep for
Speaker 1: the men, he's extremely progressive. So it wasn't about that.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that he was this tyrannical, physically abusive captain,
Speaker 1: but he could have been verbally and personally abusive in
Speaker 1: a way that really needled his men. So Alexander's biggest
Speaker 1: cause of the mutiny is Fletcher Christian himself, and she
Speaker 1: says that it wouldn't have happened without him, and that
Speaker 1: it happened because of his own personal breakdown. So maybe
Speaker 1: we shouldn't look too to Blige for our problems, but
Speaker 1: to Christian himself. So Sarah, was this mission for bread
Speaker 1: fruit all for not? Yeah, we have to catch up
Speaker 1: with the bread fruit here, since it's the whole purpose
Speaker 1: for this story. The specimens that arrive in Jamaica are
Speaker 1: practically too late because it takes a while for this exotic,
Speaker 1: strange food to catch on, and by the time it
Speaker 1: finally does catch on, slavery has been abolished. By the
Speaker 1: British today, though it's actually a really popular food in Jamaica.
Speaker 1: And according to the Smithsonian, a mature tree produces two
Speaker 1: hundred pounds of fruit a season, which is kind of insane.
Speaker 1: And it's filled with protein and calories and carbohydrates and nutrients.
Speaker 1: And you can grill it and fry it and bake
Speaker 1: it and roast it. I mean, I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: talking about shrimp and forest. Ever, I was thinking the
Speaker 1: same thing. So if you'd like to send us a
Speaker 1: breadfruit recipe, please do. And that brings us to the
Speaker 1: end of the mutiny and the bounty and our ideas
Speaker 1: about who, well what is the cause of it, And
Speaker 1: that brings us to Listener mail. Our first postcard for
Speaker 1: today is a picture of James Joyce in Paris and
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