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Speaker 1: Excited about today's show, so much to get to, of
Speaker 1: course the Monday night football recap. You know, I'm excited
Speaker 1: about these NFC East matchups. Um Eagles Redskins had that
Speaker 1: old vibe, old vibe to it. So we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about that game. Also, we're gonna do a little TNF preview.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what is more historic than Ravens Dolphins, So
Speaker 1: we're gonna dig into that a little bit as well.
Speaker 1: And then, uh, we haven't done in a while. Figured
Speaker 1: this is a good day to do it. We're gonna
Speaker 1: bust out the old a t N mail bag and
Speaker 1: see what the listeners um want to know from us.
Speaker 1: I love it. Have you ever written a letter to
Speaker 1: someone by hand and sent it with an envelope in
Speaker 1: a stamp? A handwritten letters? I used, don't tell me no,
Speaker 1: I think I wrote um by the way it's it
Speaker 1: would have been an indictment of me as a person.
Speaker 1: You know, I know you you're a throwback. Oh I'm Mark,
Speaker 1: I'm an old soul. I haven't, I haven't the way
Speaker 1: you said that. I was like, oh, just give me
Speaker 1: my quill and my little ink pen. That's exactly. And
Speaker 1: I'll send letters off to people I have a connection.
Speaker 1: No any letters now that I think about it, like
Speaker 1: girls back in the Yeah. And I sent a letter
Speaker 1: to the editor once about Don Mattingley and when he
Speaker 1: got bench for not getting a haircut. You checking all
Speaker 1: the boxes. I mean you didn't have a pery defensive
Speaker 1: there no pen pal. Oh I got I had friends
Speaker 1: that I knew. I didn't have people. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't like to leave My bubble had its like you're
Speaker 1: a little clickie in Vietnam ones and it like two
Speaker 1: letters and then it died. Let her across the sea,
Speaker 1: let her back? Which side of Vietnam? What do you
Speaker 1: mean which side of Vietnam? You know? What? What year was? This?
Speaker 1: Was this during the war? Fifth grade? Mark? Ye? Mark
Speaker 1: wasn't in high school? Man, do your attempt to age
Speaker 1: me like like decades beyond you is failing by the minute? Um? Okay,
Speaker 1: So anyway, Yes, I will do the mail bag. That
Speaker 1: will be fun. Uh. So let's get into it. Let's
Speaker 1: start everybody by yes, finishing out week seven, we say
Speaker 1: goodbye to week seven with our Monday Night recap when
Speaker 1: gone have to get to the thirty five per person,
Speaker 1: which they've got him. They've got him, Skipe, He's across.
Speaker 1: They fully five, He's got a first four yard Lord,
Speaker 1: how do you do? How do you do? That's all
Speaker 1: you said. They got him. I'm w I P with
Speaker 1: the call there, Mel Reese and Mike Quick with the call.
Speaker 1: That was the turning point in the game. Early in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, Carson Wentz escapes from a what what
Speaker 1: seemed to be destined as a sack and the Redskins
Speaker 1: getting the ball back down seven Instead, the drive stays alive.
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz throws another touchdown pass. You finished with four
Speaker 1: overall at the end of the day, thirty four to
Speaker 1: twenty four win for the Eagles over the Washington Redskins.
Speaker 1: The Eagles continue to look like the best team in
Speaker 1: the NFC early on. There now six and one. That's
Speaker 1: an NFL best six and one, and Connie Fox will
Speaker 1: start with you on this one. You are a Philadelphia native. Uh.
Speaker 1: This was not all good news for the Eagles, who
Speaker 1: lost Pro Bowl left tackle Jason Peters to a serious
Speaker 1: knee injury that will end a season but the Eagles
Speaker 1: are six and one, and Carson Wentz again looked like
Speaker 1: a superstar. Wow, it's like watching this game, I couldn't
Speaker 1: even I still don't know if I can let myself
Speaker 1: believe in the team because they've hurt me so many
Speaker 1: times and now it's you've got a second year quarterback. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he looks great right now. When he escaped
Speaker 1: the pocket, it was like he almost looked like a
Speaker 1: little kid running like he It's not like he has
Speaker 1: like a ton of speed, but he got out of
Speaker 1: that and the place that he made. He just looks
Speaker 1: so good right now. The whole team does. And losing
Speaker 1: Jason Peters that's a massive, massive problem. I mean that's
Speaker 1: his blind side. He's been so reliable. He is the
Speaker 1: key to that offensive line. And when we saw Lane
Speaker 1: Johnson gets suspended last year, that's on the other side.
Speaker 1: But Vitai, uh, do you know how to pronounce his name? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's a Vatia. He it was vain right, the first
Speaker 1: name is even Yeah, But that offensive line is the
Speaker 1: key to this team, and so I'm just wondering, and
Speaker 1: I hope that they can continue with what they've been
Speaker 1: doing without Jason Peters. The one thing I'd say about
Speaker 1: this game, and you, I know you love NFC East matchups.
Speaker 1: We grew up around the same area and what no
Speaker 1: matter what team you different different era. But then I'll
Speaker 1: go then, actually I'll help you out here because I'll
Speaker 1: go back a little bit before where the last Vietnam
Speaker 1: era Redskins teams like gregreg that the joke reaches a
Speaker 1: certain point and then Greg adds the extra punch line
Speaker 1: that kind of falls a bit flat. Continue on with
Speaker 1: our comment extra is the extra punch line guy for
Speaker 1: the exercise of this show. It's the one that finally
Speaker 1: gets Mark going that exercise it just had. This was
Speaker 1: I'm so glad this happened in primetime because if it
Speaker 1: got lost on some one o'clock CBS game with one
Speaker 1: and a half cameras and Greg Gumbel announcing, we're not
Speaker 1: treated to what is a game change special performance. Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: He already has been doing this week after week and
Speaker 1: little segments, and last night he put it all together
Speaker 1: and I was sitting on the couch and not exact
Speaker 1: play that they just put where he escapes out. I thought,
Speaker 1: this game is going in the Redskins direction, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden and bang he bolts out and it's like,
Speaker 1: this is the what makes the season where the Eagles
Speaker 1: could wind up in the super Bowl, he could wind
Speaker 1: up as the m v P. I'm just saying it
Speaker 1: was a very special performance. It was a breakout game.
Speaker 1: People were like, well, this is not his breakout game.
Speaker 1: He's been breaking out. It's like, no, it was best
Speaker 1: two games of the season. We're in primetime. That's why
Speaker 1: people are talking up m v P. First, Let's see
Speaker 1: if he can back it up. There's nine more games left.
Speaker 1: Can he can he keep it going? Because his first
Speaker 1: month of the season was good, it wasn't at the
Speaker 1: level that it's been the last three weeks. But what
Speaker 1: impressed me with Wentz and what I think so exciting
Speaker 1: if you're an Eagles fan. He makes those special places
Speaker 1: and he only had a couple of completions in the
Speaker 1: first half, but two of them were just bananas. But
Speaker 1: after that run that we've referenced a few times, he
Speaker 1: goes right down the field and he shows everything. He
Speaker 1: changes the play at the line of scrimmage, has a
Speaker 1: dart over the middle, has a beautiful touch pass to
Speaker 1: the eyeline to alson Jeffrey and then for the touchdown,
Speaker 1: he's up at the line of scrimmage. He has a
Speaker 1: run pass option where he's calling the place and he
Speaker 1: knows the right place to call, and he that's a
Speaker 1: very tough team to defend, and he does it with
Speaker 1: his mind, with his arm, with every hand. They even
Speaker 1: coreback that he could back that up and then you
Speaker 1: put it out. I mean it would incorporated stuff that
Speaker 1: he used in college. Like he's actually adding to the playbook.
Speaker 1: He's he's a big part of the offense in terms
Speaker 1: of how they plan. You just don't see that from
Speaker 1: most of these guys at this age. And this is
Speaker 1: why it is not too soon to start pounding the
Speaker 1: table as Whence is a favorite for m v P.
Speaker 1: Because first of all, they are UH six and one.
Speaker 1: He's on pace to throw thirty nine touchdowns and throw
Speaker 1: for yards. Is QB rating is over a hundred. He's
Speaker 1: checking all the boxes. And their schedule is not very
Speaker 1: diffice a nice compared to the Redskins. For instance, I
Speaker 1: was watching the game with Keith yesterday. Keith Hans is
Speaker 1: in town for the week, and and we looked at
Speaker 1: the schedule and it's like that looks like twelve and four,
Speaker 1: and if he continues to play well, he'll have the
Speaker 1: numbers and potentially number one seed. That's how you win
Speaker 1: a VP. I think it's not too soon to kind
Speaker 1: of look ahead and what he didn't. I'm only saying
Speaker 1: he's been outplayed significantly by Tom Brady this year. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's even close. And I think Alex and
Speaker 1: Alex think, you know, you have to count every game,
Speaker 1: like Brady never had a game like went said a
Speaker 1: couple of games that no one's gonna mention, like the
Speaker 1: Giants game where he played very poorly, Like, you haven't
Speaker 1: had those type of games they gain. Well, he actually right,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't. It doesn't developing scenario. And it's exciting
Speaker 1: because we've lost quarterbacks and there's a bunch of old
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that we've been tracking for a decade plus. It's
Speaker 1: good to have someone. Here's the thing, though, they didn't
Speaker 1: just lose Jason Peters, which they lost Jordan Hicks for
Speaker 1: this season, who has been one of their better defensive players.
Speaker 1: This is a team that's essentially one. I think of
Speaker 1: their six wins, five of them or four of them
Speaker 1: have been within one score with two minutes left in
Speaker 1: the game. Like that. They they're winning close games. I
Speaker 1: don't think of them as a dominant team. So I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna have their ups, They're gonna have their
Speaker 1: downs like during the season. I don't think they're necessarily
Speaker 1: running to this violent game. You guys have get super
Speaker 1: Bowl tickets like everybody. Full time employees get two tickets each.
Speaker 1: I don't because I'm not considered a full time employee here.
Speaker 1: So I immediately last night was like texting my agent,
Speaker 1: was like, can I get super Bowl? You can buy them?
Speaker 1: You can? You have the opportunity to buy them at cost,
Speaker 1: I believe. And I was also, if you will say,
Speaker 1: I feel like a rule should be like I had
Speaker 1: my red Contact Jersey rule that nobody seems to be into.
Speaker 1: What about the number of shows that you host are
Speaker 1: involved with? You get a super Bowl ticket here, so
Speaker 1: Colleen should get three and a half super Bowl tickets?
Speaker 1: How about you think? So let's see what you're doing there?
Speaker 1: No for before Alright, So yeah, we we'll talk about
Speaker 1: these teams more as we look ahead to next week.
Speaker 1: But let's move on and talk some news. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: so do you have the time. I was going to
Speaker 1: ask you, so if you have the job, I do
Speaker 1: have the time. You do half time? I do have time.
Speaker 1: You do half time? Do half time? You do halftime?
Speaker 1: Do half time? The super Bowl? You do half I
Speaker 1: am so excited. Um, I'm really hoping that's the extent
Speaker 1: of Jimmy Fallon's involved in the halftime show. I think
Speaker 1: they've telecast you that he is going to be playing
Speaker 1: in major, if not half of the role. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: let's do some news. You're excited, Connie. Yeah, what you
Speaker 1: don't like Fallon sounds fine, sounds fine, But the history
Speaker 1: of rap we can calm down a little bit. Watch out,
Speaker 1: everyone's on this guy's right. Alright, more halftime talk a
Speaker 1: little bit later, but let's do some news. Martavis Bryant. Alright,
Speaker 1: So rap Sheet reported I think a week ago Sunday
Speaker 1: that Briant wanted out. Bryant and everyone else connected to
Speaker 1: the Steelers wide receiver refuted that report, and then after
Speaker 1: once again Juju Smith Schuster was clearly having a bigger
Speaker 1: role than him in Sunday's win against the Bengals. Um uh,
Speaker 1: Bryant was salty on Instagram and then didn't show up
Speaker 1: to Monday's practice, said he had a doctor's appointment. And
Speaker 1: now Brian finally has talked on the record with ESPNS
Speaker 1: Josina Anderson, saying that if the Steelers are going to
Speaker 1: target him, they should trade him. This is see, this
Speaker 1: is the type of guy you want to build around,
Speaker 1: and this is the guy that you want. Here's what
Speaker 1: he said to Anderson. If they don't try to include
Speaker 1: me more and continue to do the same thing, then
Speaker 1: I want out, period. I just want to be happy.
Speaker 1: I would like it to be here, but if not,
Speaker 1: then oh well, just got to move on. The added
Speaker 1: I'm not being selfish. It's I want to help contribute
Speaker 1: and I want to be the best player that I
Speaker 1: can be. Mike Tomlin, the Steelers coach, was asked about
Speaker 1: the Bryant situation on Tuesday. Not really a big fan
Speaker 1: of talking about it. I have no desire to sit
Speaker 1: up here with the catcher's mid and field questions about
Speaker 1: Mark Tavis and a social media habits. To be quite
Speaker 1: honest with you, Um, we've invested a lot in mar
Speaker 1: Tavos since we drafted him. Um he's not available Uh
Speaker 1: via a trade. Um, we've invested a lot. We've covered
Speaker 1: a lot of ground. It's obvious that we still got
Speaker 1: more ground to cover with him because we're having a
Speaker 1: conversation about him that's not football related. Um, but we
Speaker 1: have Um. He's done a lot uh in a period
Speaker 1: of time that he's been here in terms of improving
Speaker 1: not only as a player but as a man. But
Speaker 1: we still got a ways to go. Um. He was
Speaker 1: out of bounds with some of his actions in terms
Speaker 1: of the things that he said on on social media. Uh,
Speaker 1: it would it would be dealt with appropriately. So Uh,
Speaker 1: that ball is in my court. I haven't visited with
Speaker 1: him yet. Uh, to be quite honest with you, I
Speaker 1: haven't visited with him yet because I've had bigger fish
Speaker 1: to fry. Tomlin not thrilled with the situation, Mark No.
Speaker 1: And they have bigger fish on their offense to give
Speaker 1: the ball to as well. I mean that game against
Speaker 1: the Bengals, they didn't need him. He had one catch
Speaker 1: for three yards, and they haven't needed a much this season,
Speaker 1: and they can say, oh, we don't want to trade him.
Speaker 1: Uh around interested in that? I think the problem is
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have a real tough time trading a
Speaker 1: guy that is out there talking to national reporters behind
Speaker 1: the team's back. That's constant bombshells. This is a team
Speaker 1: that's already from Levi on Bell's hold out all the
Speaker 1: way until now, has had sort of weekly drama, and
Speaker 1: yet they're a fantastic team with super Bowl hopes. I
Speaker 1: don't know how much longer he stays there where they
Speaker 1: can trade him or you get rid of him in general,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not this is something NFL teams
Speaker 1: do not need. This distraction on a week to week basis.
Speaker 1: He's creating it. This is the type of stuff that
Speaker 1: you would hear from a team that you would expect
Speaker 1: to hear from a team that's not doing well, that
Speaker 1: has a losing record, that's falling apart, that's on the
Speaker 1: brink of their season just crumbling, not from a team
Speaker 1: that's doing well right now that's had two straight games
Speaker 1: where the offense is back on track. Like, you can't
Speaker 1: be a selfish player like this and then say that
Speaker 1: you're not being selfish, Like did you see when Juju
Speaker 1: Smith Schuster is doing the high and seek celebration and
Speaker 1: everybody's like doing He's just standing there being sulky like
Speaker 1: he's not when he's calling out Smith on Instagram. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he had a photo of screen grab of Antonio
Speaker 1: Brown the ball going to him and being like why
Speaker 1: you're throwing to him when I'm open? It's like, what
Speaker 1: is going It's a terrible seventy two, really immature. And
Speaker 1: also the fact that he said that he's worried about
Speaker 1: the need to support his family. That's straight out of
Speaker 1: Terrell Owens playbook, Like that's exactly what did you know?
Speaker 1: You get paid off numbers. He's coming off a suspension,
Speaker 1: which certainly won't help, which was his fault his next contract. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and this is not going to help his next contract.
Speaker 1: It is interesting to me that for weeks he played
Speaker 1: less than Juju Smith Schuster, and after he made a
Speaker 1: lot of noise last week, he actually played more than
Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster last week. They're they're splitting time. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: it's just a weird offense. Antonio Brown has almost half
Speaker 1: the receiving yards. People wouldn't guess it, but for as
Speaker 1: as low as Bryant's numbers are, he's actually the second
Speaker 1: leading receiver on the team. It's just Antonio Brown is
Speaker 1: blowing everyone. Brown and he's a role player. He's a
Speaker 1: role player. I would not I'm sure there are some
Speaker 1: teams out there that feel like they're missing a piece
Speaker 1: on offense. I would not go near this guy, uh
Speaker 1: best of his history, because of his attitude and the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: If you could get him for like a fourth round
Speaker 1: pick apps Ales, sure, but then be careful. A personally
Speaker 1: actote involving the Steelers and my jet Santonio Homes they
Speaker 1: traded for him, he was a malcontent in Pittsburgh. They
Speaker 1: got great value out of him until they gave a
Speaker 1: contract and then became their worst nightmare. I feel like
Speaker 1: Brian could be the same situation. So buy or beware,
Speaker 1: or at least if you want to re up with
Speaker 1: a guy after his rookie deals up, before we move on.
Speaker 1: I don't believe Mike Tomlin that saying that Martavis Bryant
Speaker 1: is not available. I think if the right trade offer along,
Speaker 1: that there's that there's been talk behind the scenes about
Speaker 1: potential trades, and if he's saying that, if anything, maybe
Speaker 1: it indicates to me that they don't feel like they're
Speaker 1: gonna get oh good enough offer to bother to trade him,
Speaker 1: because I think why not just why to just keep him.
Speaker 1: You've got You've got an article today, Mark Sessler about
Speaker 1: some trade talk candidates. Hang it up quick because each
Speaker 1: of the names involved, you know, they're cuting, they're moving quickly.
Speaker 1: So you can go read it on the site somewhere.
Speaker 1: Go try to find it NFL dot com Slash Sessler.
Speaker 1: Moving on Marshawn Lynch, who was suspended one game UM
Speaker 1: after he was ejected on Thursday night for pushing officials,
Speaker 1: pushing an official or making contact with an official while
Speaker 1: trying to separate buddy an opponent Marcus Peters from a
Speaker 1: scrum in that classic game between the Raiders and Chiefs.
Speaker 1: That suspension was upheld on Tuesday, the NFL announced at
Speaker 1: James Thrash, who's job did he take? In he took um?
Speaker 1: Merton Hanks? Was there someone? But am I getting a
Speaker 1: confused Merton Hanks? There's somebody between Hanks and Thrash? Thanks
Speaker 1: was involved? I don't have the lineage for appeals dropping
Speaker 1: insane like front like NFL front office, like hierarchies on us.
Speaker 1: It's like a trivia question. Lindsey Lindsey Fulton before the
Speaker 1: end of the show. This will be a good like
Speaker 1: challenge for you as you continue to get more comfortable.
Speaker 1: If I could have the lineage since two thousand and
Speaker 1: ten of the NFL appeals officers doesn't have anything else,
Speaker 1: I thank your Eagles legend James Thrash. Anyway, everybody called him,
Speaker 1: all right, what shouldn't be a surprise, Greg, because I
Speaker 1: don't think the NFL was ever going to give Lynch
Speaker 1: a pass on anything. And then you know, nobody like
Speaker 1: they don't like the officials getting anybody getting handsy with
Speaker 1: the officials. So one game stands. I wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: surprised if it was overturned because that happened so often
Speaker 1: in these scenarios. And I thought the case that Lynch
Speaker 1: presented by all reports was compelling. Not only was he
Speaker 1: you know, he was doing the wrong thing, but he
Speaker 1: was trying to play peace speaker. But more to the point,
Speaker 1: he presented an argument. He came up with nine different
Speaker 1: players who put their hands on an official, including Aaron
Speaker 1: Donald in an incident I remember very well early last year,
Speaker 1: and none of those guys were suspended. So I do
Speaker 1: think it's fair to raise the question what's the difference?
Speaker 1: What what is I don't know, then, this happens with
Speaker 1: all these suspensions just kind of case by case, like
Speaker 1: what is the standard? Why did those guys not going
Speaker 1: to suspend it. It's it's shocking to me that the
Speaker 1: league has confusing decision making on some of these things.
Speaker 1: But watching the thing, I think his teammates say, we're
Speaker 1: behind you on this one. He's going out and helping
Speaker 1: his team, like this is different than some of the others.
Speaker 1: He was helping his friend who was on the other team.
Speaker 1: But and he was on the call to like he
Speaker 1: testified for Lynch. Marcus Peters, Yeah, I was trying. He
Speaker 1: was trying to settle it all down. Here's something it's
Speaker 1: going to be a mature peacemaker, and he was whacked
Speaker 1: down for that. I think the Raiders, or at least
Speaker 1: one hands maybe don't care that much because it's like, well,
Speaker 1: we're not really diminishing our chances to win. DeAndre Washington
Speaker 1: and Jalen Richard are going to be just fine. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're losing on going to that. And before
Speaker 1: we like, you know, night Marshall Lynch for he wasn't
Speaker 1: involved the play. What was going to happen to Marcus Peter?
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be thrown off the top of a building,
Speaker 1: like everything was gonna be fine, and then he put
Speaker 1: his hands on the official. It was stupid. It was
Speaker 1: to become a centerpiece on national television. I hadn't been
Speaker 1: doing a lot. So let's race out in the middle
Speaker 1: of the field and creates. And if it's a rule
Speaker 1: that if you put your hands on an official, you're suspended,
Speaker 1: then that you should be consistent. One more thing to
Speaker 1: add to. When I was at training camp in Oakland,
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch had his whole uh team of camera guys
Speaker 1: and audio guys following him around. I think he's putting
Speaker 1: something together. So this is this, it's back to the
Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch course. Everything comes back, you come to box
Speaker 1: some deep state information. Ye. Maybe maybe one of the
Speaker 1: more obvious things, at least to me this year, is
Speaker 1: like this, come, I'm doing this for O town. You're
Speaker 1: not doing this for the town. You're doing this for Marshawn.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest. Let's calm down. And that's just my opinion, Greg,
Speaker 1: I know you disagree. I see through them. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of both. Maybe it's both. I don't
Speaker 1: maybe moving on. Joe Thomas is out for the season,
Speaker 1: bad more bad news for the brown On the left
Speaker 1: tackle who had his famous snap streak UH snapped at
Speaker 1: ten thousand, three hundred and sixty three when he suffered
Speaker 1: an arm injury in UH the Cleveland overtime lost to
Speaker 1: Tennessee on Sunday. You knew it had to be probably
Speaker 1: serious to get him out of the game and the
Speaker 1: way he was reacting, and indeed it was torn triceps
Speaker 1: needs surgery, and the Browns sent him to injured reserve.
Speaker 1: Thomas told reporters Monday that he plans to undergo the
Speaker 1: surgery today Tuesday, and he'll wait until the off season
Speaker 1: to decide his NFL future. Am I done playing? I
Speaker 1: don't know, he said, it's too early to make any decisions. Mark.
Speaker 1: Will Joe Thomas be on the Cleveland Browns Week one,
Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen, Well, I mean he's set to make
Speaker 1: a lot of money, So if that's a factor, which
Speaker 1: it usually is, my I would lean towards yes. I
Speaker 1: think it matters a lot. It's not that old. He's
Speaker 1: not that old, and he and he was playing great
Speaker 1: this season and and the minute he went out the lineup,
Speaker 1: it showed. I mean, this is a guy. He obviously
Speaker 1: is someone that doesn't shy away from work. Ten thousand,
Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty three straight snaps and NFL record
Speaker 1: eleven years. I think he loves football. I think that
Speaker 1: he would love the situation to be different. And my
Speaker 1: question would be is he a Cleveland Brown or is
Speaker 1: he somewhere else? Because it may be time to give
Speaker 1: you said will he be playing? If you will he
Speaker 1: be on the Cleveland Browns Week one in September, my
Speaker 1: guess is yes. He does seem hyper loyal, like Czy loyal.
Speaker 1: I mean that there's no there's no like animosity. So
Speaker 1: my guess would be yes. But a lot can change.
Speaker 1: And he's turning He's turning thirty three now. Jason Peters
Speaker 1: is turning thirty six and is coming off a torn
Speaker 1: A c L and m c L. They're both due
Speaker 1: to make a lot of money. But Peter, like Thomas,
Speaker 1: this is an injury that when you recover from, you
Speaker 1: recover from like he. I don't. I don't necessarily think
Speaker 1: it's long term damage, and I think it should be
Speaker 1: pointed out. These two guys going after last night, we're
Speaker 1: literally the top two ranked tackles by Pro Football Focus
Speaker 1: this season. So even they're up there in years, they
Speaker 1: are at the very top of their game. And our
Speaker 1: our friend Chris Wesley pointed out they are probably the
Speaker 1: two picks at the end of this decade when the
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame chooses their all decade team
Speaker 1: at tackle, Jason Peters and Joe Thomas. It's it's sad
Speaker 1: to lose him. At the same time, I thought Tyrn
Speaker 1: Smith might have a chance at that knock Peters out.
Speaker 1: But but I mean that that's it's pretty incredible that
Speaker 1: there's still like the best in the game. Um. And finally,
Speaker 1: one little more bit of Brown's news. Lebron James was
Speaker 1: asked about the Brown struggles and he had this to say,
Speaker 1: I ain't been one in twenty two at nothing nothing.
Speaker 1: He said, he will hold his other opinions on the
Speaker 1: Cleveland football team, uh, to himself, will keep them to himself.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm wondering if Gonzo knows anything about this. It
Speaker 1: was Boor twelve is an American sports writer. Was married
Speaker 1: NFL meda broadcaster. Colle Wolf John, who was a Pisces,
Speaker 1: resides in Los Angeles with his wife and jew Dogs.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we cleared that up because I just keep
Speaker 1: forgetting who John is. Like, It's just that's right, and
Speaker 1: um yeah, I don't know. The only thing I know
Speaker 1: about basketball right now is that the Sixers one last night. Listen,
Speaker 1: who is excited Sports? I'm a little worried about. You know,
Speaker 1: false is free throw motions? How on top of things?
Speaker 1: It's not great, it's really ugly. Greg's random NVA knowledge
Speaker 1: just keeps on throw you know why. You know why.
Speaker 1: There's a little city in the middle of the desert
Speaker 1: that's asking people to weigh in on certain things, and
Speaker 1: Greg has found a new territory to be a part of.
Speaker 1: Suddenly Greg cares about basketball out of nowhere, in the
Speaker 1: middle of a busy NFL season. It's all connect the dots.
Speaker 1: It's like once once upon a time a man named
Speaker 1: Bugsy looked upon a desert and said, I could build
Speaker 1: something here. Greg is now doing the same thing. I
Speaker 1: stick to tennis, you know, off that's the play tennis
Speaker 1: in the off season, right You're the only okay, Mike
Speaker 1: Tom put it this way, You're the only tennis player
Speaker 1: I know. So it's kind of unique. Do you guys
Speaker 1: know another tennis player, John please tennis? No a tennis player.
Speaker 1: I do not know nor. All right, that's it for
Speaker 1: the news. Time now for Thursday night football, Shoulders of
Speaker 1: greatness talk. Oh yeah, time to talk a little Dolphins
Speaker 1: Ravens a Dolphins team that greg and it is now
Speaker 1: official that Jay Cutler with multiple cracked ribs will not play.
Speaker 1: It's Matt Moore's world, and uh, going against the Ravens,
Speaker 1: it's a perfect spot, you would think. Maybe not perfect
Speaker 1: because the Ravens can put together a good effort on defense,
Speaker 1: but a nice spot for the Dolphins to know they
Speaker 1: don't have to score a ton of points to win
Speaker 1: a game. No. I mean, the Ravens defense has been
Speaker 1: solid this year, but because their offense is so bad,
Speaker 1: they needed to have a special season and it's not
Speaker 1: really happening. I mean when they play a team like
Speaker 1: the Bears or the Vikings, those are teams that you think, Okay,
Speaker 1: Ravens defens, go win a game for by yourself, and
Speaker 1: they're just fine. They're not a special defense in any way.
Speaker 1: And I think you're right. I don't think you're gonna
Speaker 1: need to put up many points if you're Matt more
Speaker 1: well and having to go out there so quickly after
Speaker 1: so many three and ounce and busted Ravens drives. I
Speaker 1: see a Ravens team that sometimes wears down towards the
Speaker 1: end of the game. That the Vikings were able to
Speaker 1: run on them late after being held back to some
Speaker 1: degree on Sunday, I thought that was really surprising too,
Speaker 1: because they had Brandon Williams back in the lineup. Look
Speaker 1: great early, looked great early, and he had a big
Speaker 1: he had a big like Russ run stuff early, but
Speaker 1: then it changed it. Just that I think that if
Speaker 1: you're j G I E and these games never go
Speaker 1: the way we think they are on Tuesday. But J
Speaker 1: G I E, it's your set up for a big
Speaker 1: game in this and I think that that's what you
Speaker 1: If the Dolphins want to win, they have to He
Speaker 1: has to be the absolute heart of the offense and
Speaker 1: they have a good defense to match. It seems like
Speaker 1: a game they can handle. Yeah, let's savious Murray. He
Speaker 1: was able to run a round for a hundred and
Speaker 1: thirteen yards and a touchdown on them. So J J I.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's kind of weird, but I feel
Speaker 1: like J J I. He has had better games when
Speaker 1: Mike Pounty is not in the lineup, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: know why. He's had a pretty bad season a gi
Speaker 1: He's averaging three and a half yards to carry his
Speaker 1: still has not scored a touch down. This is a
Speaker 1: guy a lot of people pegged as maybe the number
Speaker 1: one productive running back in the league entering this season.
Speaker 1: They kind of need him too. I know it's not
Speaker 1: just all on him, but they need him to kind
Speaker 1: of play more like he did in those big games.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is one of those games where you
Speaker 1: just gotta find a way to win if you're the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: because they are the King's right now of winning ugly.
Speaker 1: I mean, they are the Kings of can we get
Speaker 1: better as the season good too long? Because we're not
Speaker 1: that good right now. But there four and two, and
Speaker 1: this is a game you look at and think, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know if Baltimore can score on
Speaker 1: and Dominican Sue and Cameron Wake and in the Dolphins
Speaker 1: cut they're feeling so good about their secondary. They cut
Speaker 1: Byron Maxwell, who is one of the highest paid players
Speaker 1: on their team, because they liked their young players and
Speaker 1: they're gonna be trying to cover I mean, this is
Speaker 1: an NFL offense where the leading receivers Ben Watson coming
Speaker 1: off of a serious injury and Chris Moore and Campanero
Speaker 1: and griff Wait, It's like, it's like this is basically
Speaker 1: the single word you have to say. Ozzy Newsom has
Speaker 1: put together the single most depressing offense in the entire
Speaker 1: NFL because it's all a bunch of guys who are
Speaker 1: caught elsewhere, right, I mean the best things that they
Speaker 1: have are kind of third chance guys. Well, when they
Speaker 1: build drafting and development. He needs to take the heat
Speaker 1: for that. He I think he will start talk. There's
Speaker 1: also been injuries you lost. I just spell spills. Greg
Speaker 1: spills water in the middle of his analysis the shows
Speaker 1: his arguments reach a crescendos like completely knocking the water
Speaker 1: spells on expensive technology. It is like the first you
Speaker 1: know real time that you gotta watch NFL dot Com
Speaker 1: Slash eight c n video. What are we third? And
Speaker 1: what I love so much is that Greg is not
Speaker 1: even cleaning it up on his own Dan, what are
Speaker 1: we gonna do now that Joe Thomas his iron man
Speaker 1: speak is over. Greg's continues spilling water on expensive equipment
Speaker 1: every year since he's been with NFL meeting good job
Speaker 1: Greg every month. You're consistent, UM goes great with water
Speaker 1: head and shoulders, shoulders a great Yeah, it doesn't need that.
Speaker 1: In fact, here's my question. This is more kind of
Speaker 1: a big picture of Ravens uh question. But I know
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco got was behind the eight ball um this
Speaker 1: season and he doesn't have a lot of supporting cast.
Speaker 1: But I know he makes a ton of money. I
Speaker 1: don't know a contract situation, but does he have to
Speaker 1: show a little bit something, uh to not be in
Speaker 1: any type of danger? And I shouldn't even ask that
Speaker 1: question without looking at his contract, but he is not.
Speaker 1: He has not been a guy that's been able to
Speaker 1: lift them at all, and he's getting paid like a superstar. Well,
Speaker 1: the three and four, if they if they were to
Speaker 1: lose to Miami, go three and five, and if the
Speaker 1: if the floor fell out and you found found yourself
Speaker 1: in position in April to draft someone that the team
Speaker 1: were in love with. Maybe, but they're not gonna go
Speaker 1: get someone out there in the league right now to replace.
Speaker 1: And he's only under contract for twelve million next year.
Speaker 1: He had a huge signing bonus when he signed, so
Speaker 1: I think they have to think about their next quarterback though,
Speaker 1: because this is three. I think he's had the worst
Speaker 1: two seasons of his career going into this season, and
Speaker 1: this is clearly the worst. So that's three straight years.
Speaker 1: The owner, the owner, Just Mountain said, when it comes
Speaker 1: to Asy Newsom, John Harbaugh and Joe Flacco, he's like,
Speaker 1: I know everyone wants these rash, rash decisions. He's like,
Speaker 1: that's not how I operate. It's not how I've ever operated.
Speaker 1: There's no decisions happening with any of these guys. So
Speaker 1: the more Ravens thing to do would be to just
Speaker 1: hire another offensive coordinator before getting rid of Flacco, right,
Speaker 1: just keep just keep, just just keep running different ones through.
Speaker 1: That helps the corner job. You don't want, Yeah, offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator on the Ravens. So yeah, Matt More, Joe Flacco, Flacco,
Speaker 1: get some Flacco? Is he? If Luca? That's the question.
Speaker 1: That's what it ultimately comes down to. That is the
Speaker 1: shoulders of greatness Chat Thursday Night Football. Oh yeah, interesting
Speaker 1: and a little bit of extra water. A little bit
Speaker 1: of water, A little bit of water, A little water
Speaker 1: on that discussion. Ye POWs it down, all right, let's
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Speaker 1: the mail bag. Very exciting because why do we do
Speaker 1: the mail bag. We do the mail bag Mark and
Speaker 1: I think you know this. I think you're on the
Speaker 1: same page when when rat ideas that's correct, but also
Speaker 1: when we want to just let's just connect, intermix, intermix,
Speaker 1: let's interact intermixed with interact interact. That's why we do it,
Speaker 1: but mostly when we don't really have an idea that's better.
Speaker 1: But so many things to get to. And we're gonna
Speaker 1: start this uh mailbag edition with a question from a
Speaker 1: guy by the name of Mark with a k any
Speaker 1: heat there, Mark with the se No, it's a different
Speaker 1: it's a totally different type of human being. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: been a strange NFL season so far, but what is
Speaker 1: the strangest or least anticipated thing to have happened so
Speaker 1: far this year? Would be interested to hear all of
Speaker 1: you way in on that. Okay, Mark, get us gone
Speaker 1: with the See it's easy for me. It's the Jets.
Speaker 1: Week after week, I see a team that's playing down
Speaker 1: to the final minute of the game. They've very close
Speaker 1: to evan and winning a record. In two months ago
Speaker 1: we had them signed, sealed and delivered as the worst
Speaker 1: team not only this season, but maybe ever. We couldn't
Speaker 1: have been more wrong. I like that one. So I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna go with the predictable homer pick here in
Speaker 1: the Eagles the Rams that's been a major surprise from
Speaker 1: last year. After yes, the season, every week I'm surprised
Speaker 1: by them. And I think that the addition of Andrew
Speaker 1: Whitworth is like it's not talked about a ton, but
Speaker 1: I think it's changed the way that that offense can operate,
Speaker 1: both passing the ball and running the ball. And you
Speaker 1: can see the difference that the coaching staff has made.
Speaker 1: And I guess the second year of golf and with
Speaker 1: these guys, but it's a totally different team. Um, I
Speaker 1: will say Deshaun Watson becoming a star so quickly I thought, um,
Speaker 1: he didn't even start the season as the starter, and
Speaker 1: then when he got in the game in week two,
Speaker 1: it didn't look like a guy that immediately knew what
Speaker 1: he was doing. But now coming out of his by
Speaker 1: you kinda you lock him in. If you're a fantasy owner,
Speaker 1: he's like your top player. If you're a Texans fan,
Speaker 1: he's the face of the franchise. That is a huge
Speaker 1: surprise to me. That happened as quickly. Well, I I
Speaker 1: really focused in on the words strange, and so the
Speaker 1: strangest thing to me is you remember Logan Thomas. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: last last time we saw him, the quarterback he was
Speaker 1: he was having one of the rougher quarterback performances I
Speaker 1: would say of this century. Uh with under Bruce arians
Speaker 1: as a quarterback in Arizona after that Carson Palmer injury,
Speaker 1: and then suddenly, you know, I'm watching watching the Bills
Speaker 1: early this season, Logan Thomas is out there getting significant
Speaker 1: snaps at tight end, scoring touchdowns for an offense that's
Speaker 1: doing pretty well, doing well enough. That's a good one.
Speaker 1: I'm just like that. That's pretty strange. That's pretty strange.
Speaker 1: And they're winning games with weird Logan Thomas and Nicole
Speaker 1: Leary and all these that's pretty weird. All the injuries too,
Speaker 1: have been really weird, like big name injuries. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: been more kind of unfortunate. Injuries are part of the game.
Speaker 1: It's a violent sport. Colleen, just gonna man, is playing
Speaker 1: this one for you. Get out of here with that.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw the rest of the water in the cup.
Speaker 1: There we go. Nick as this to say, biggest dark
Speaker 1: horse to make a legit playoff run this season, Connie,
Speaker 1: you get us going here? Oh biggest dark horse? Um,
Speaker 1: oh my god, what if it was the Jets. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're saying the biggest, you can say the Browns
Speaker 1: or the Niners. But the Jets at least they want
Speaker 1: some games. Well yeah, but nobody is expecting them to
Speaker 1: make a playoff run, and nobody thought that they would
Speaker 1: gonna be maybe eliminated this week. Jets are a pretty
Speaker 1: dark horse scenario. I would eat softball pants if the
Speaker 1: Jets want to playoff game. All right, all right, really
Speaker 1: not that crazy. I mean I would love to eat
Speaker 1: the pants of him at the Jets one like nine
Speaker 1: or ten games and then one a playoff game. It's
Speaker 1: crazy because so few teams have been eliminated at this
Speaker 1: point other than the Browns. For cults, I would put
Speaker 1: in and Giants. I feel like the other twenty eight
Speaker 1: teams have some sort of argument thinking of a dark horse.
Speaker 1: How about the Chargers just because we had we had
Speaker 1: given up on them and they're a weird team. They're
Speaker 1: kind of the opposite of last year's Chargers where they're
Speaker 1: they're winning games by tough and they're not really that
Speaker 1: smooth on offense. But they've just kind of have a
Speaker 1: good vibe to them and like, you know, winning games
Speaker 1: with defense. Not a dark horse pick if you chose
Speaker 1: them as your a FC super Bowl team right there?
Speaker 1: Um and I thought Greg was gonna do it, So
Speaker 1: I'll throw it out there. The Saints in a wide
Speaker 1: open NFC now, so I think they could make a
Speaker 1: playoff rund Now, it wouldn't be the craziest yea. Their
Speaker 1: first place, and they were my pick before the season,
Speaker 1: and so you're the favorites who come down. All right?
Speaker 1: Moving on this one from Kelsey, My fiance and I
Speaker 1: both big fans. Nice. I like that when couples listen
Speaker 1: are getting married soon from assuming teach other what marriage
Speaker 1: advice can the heroes? I'm just saying it's not completely clear,
Speaker 1: but I'm assuming they are getting married to each other. Mark,
Speaker 1: you're a guy, your your sage man, You're you're a
Speaker 1: deep thinker. You've been married for what eight years? Something
Speaker 1: like that? Austin's two thousand and nine, right, so that again, right,
Speaker 1: two thou eight years? Yes? Nice? Um, what do you got? Well,
Speaker 1: I would have specific advice. I'd have specific advice for men,
Speaker 1: number one, but for a couple, and I will take
Speaker 1: the for men. Take fiance and I what marriage advice
Speaker 1: and the heroes offer anything else? Come on? Yeah? Break
Speaker 1: I h I got advice to my grandfather and I
Speaker 1: failed to follow it any times. But he basically pulled
Speaker 1: me aside one time and said, don't sweat the small stuff.
Speaker 1: That was it. And it's like, had I never sweated
Speaker 1: the small stuff in our marriage from now, from the
Speaker 1: until now, would have been in a great position. I
Speaker 1: mean it's like you get in trouble when you do that.
Speaker 1: That's a good advice for life. I mean, I feel
Speaker 1: like sweating the small stuff is kind of your thing though,
Speaker 1: but that's what I'm saying. I don't do that, So
Speaker 1: that's a big It's something I think about all the time.
Speaker 1: Stop being the way you are. Yeah, good to get
Speaker 1: a female perspective here, I would say. I mean this
Speaker 1: is so for me, like just based I just moved
Speaker 1: you guys know that, and we moved into a new
Speaker 1: apartment and it's like a little bit it's still really small,
Speaker 1: but it has two bathrooms, two full bathrooms, so we
Speaker 1: each have our own bathroom. And that is like the
Speaker 1: nicest thing in the world. Like you should have any
Speaker 1: bathrooms as hope as shows you host an NFL exactly exactly,
Speaker 1: so you're gonna But but I think like the bigger,
Speaker 1: the bigger point of it is like to be able
Speaker 1: to give each other space, like you have your time
Speaker 1: together and then your time apart, your independent lives and
Speaker 1: your lives together. And I think that's important to be
Speaker 1: able to have that same that that's good. That's good. Uh,
Speaker 1: I would say once, uh, Kelsey and your hubby have kids.
Speaker 1: If you do have kids, make sure to make sure
Speaker 1: you and your husband have time together. Make sure don't
Speaker 1: get caught up in the raising kids thing and then oh,
Speaker 1: we haven't been on a date in nine months. It's
Speaker 1: not good. It's a problem. I would say, you know,
Speaker 1: just from my perspective, like bring baked goods or treats.
Speaker 1: Often it can make up for a lot. If you
Speaker 1: just give your partner food as a surprise, that can
Speaker 1: cover up a lot of ills. Just like show up
Speaker 1: with depend like like yeah, that's thoughtful. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe replaced baked goods with whatever, but yeah, like just
Speaker 1: just bring I generally it's food, just arrived with food,
Speaker 1: you know, as a surprise. That's the case. Lindsey Fulton
Speaker 1: not married, not yet anyway, Um you taking notes on
Speaker 1: all this? Not even close? Okay, Moving on this one
Speaker 1: from Chris Chances that the Browns leave Hugh in London
Speaker 1: after they get obliterated by the Vikings on Sunday. WHOA.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll start with a quiet storm and that one.
Speaker 1: I think it's low because the faults that are inherently,
Speaker 1: you know, plaguing the team. I think it as much
Speaker 1: to do with the front office approach that he was
Speaker 1: saddled with. And if they don't want to, if they
Speaker 1: don't want to look that way at it, that's fine.
Speaker 1: He's he's not done a great job of coaching. There's
Speaker 1: another scenario. I could see him being fired, winding up
Speaker 1: replacing Marvin Lewis and the Bengals go twelve and four
Speaker 1: next year and go to the n f C Championship.
Speaker 1: But I just don't think he's gonna get that was fired.
Speaker 1: Next week. I think they're testing Jimmy haslm's patients. They
Speaker 1: have the bye week. I would be a little surprised
Speaker 1: if something doesn't happen during that bye week. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: bringing in the front office guy. Maybe it's fiery coordinated.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It just feels like that's the time
Speaker 1: they'll do something. London is a dangerous place for a
Speaker 1: head coach of a struggling team. This one from Matt,
Speaker 1: can you find a way to spin a narrative that
Speaker 1: makes Colts fans not sad people for the next forty
Speaker 1: four weeks? Colleen, Oh my god, no, I'm not that.
Speaker 1: I'm not that good. I can't do that because right
Speaker 1: now they look horrendous. I feel so bad for Jacoby Brissette,
Speaker 1: and I guess Jacoby Brisette would be the one thing
Speaker 1: that you could sort of be like, Okay, well, I
Speaker 1: mean we have a good backup, like for when Luck
Speaker 1: comes back. But the defense made Blake Bortles look amazing.
Speaker 1: The offensive line is a mess. I don't know. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I think the GM is gonna have a chance to
Speaker 1: pick the coach he wants, right, and you've got Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck coming back. I understand it's forty four weeks, but
Speaker 1: your future is much brighter than the team we just
Speaker 1: discussed in others. Here's the thing, you're a This is
Speaker 1: a proud franchise that has been in a lot of
Speaker 1: big games. This Colts team wasn't doing anything this year regardless.
Speaker 1: So now you're gonna have Andrew Luck next year, and
Speaker 1: maybe you have a number one draft pick or a
Speaker 1: number two draft pick, whatever it is to help him out,
Speaker 1: and you'll have a new coach. Like you could be
Speaker 1: excited about that, you weren't going anywhere. I thought Mark's
Speaker 1: argument was probably the best forty four weeks that's in
Speaker 1: a long time, and we could be completely years or
Speaker 1: thirty years or forty years and your alliance draft. I'm
Speaker 1: excited for that. Get pumped up for the draft. Moving
Speaker 1: on this one from Mark another Mark, this one with
Speaker 1: a K with the announcement on Sunday about the halftime
Speaker 1: show at the Super Bowl. What are each of your
Speaker 1: favorite halftime shows? Mark? Well, okay, so we've been to
Speaker 1: a couple. Live Beyonce was my favorite Live six life.
Speaker 1: Fascinated by the Beyonce show. When you go back and
Speaker 1: look on ones that happened in YouTube. The fact that
Speaker 1: this happened in human history. The Up with People halftime
Speaker 1: show that I never saw but it was like way
Speaker 1: back when, is one of the most strange things that
Speaker 1: have occurred in a public setting I've ever witnessed. So
Speaker 1: you must go watch this on YouTube. I cannot believe
Speaker 1: the NFL signed off on this. It would never fly
Speaker 1: today in pro sports. It wasn't that very wholesome, It
Speaker 1: wasn't that big of a deal. Like if you go
Speaker 1: look through some of the half times, it's like seven
Speaker 1: different performers and sometimes they're just promoting a Disney movie
Speaker 1: that bombed with a bunch of Disney songs that no
Speaker 1: one's ever heard of. And that's like that was the
Speaker 1: halftime show. It wasn't that big a deal. Michael Jackson
Speaker 1: kind of changed the game. Did I loved Beyonce. She
Speaker 1: was amazing. It was that. That was such a fun
Speaker 1: super Bowl like it was the weather was wonderful, it
Speaker 1: was were in the beehive. Yeah, we went to We
Speaker 1: went to go see Beyonce right after that too. That
Speaker 1: was the power outage, right, No, that was the one
Speaker 1: in at It was to Francisco, Yeah, two years ago.
Speaker 1: The second. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Like that.
Speaker 1: I would go with the Superdome Beyonce. I'm mean, they're
Speaker 1: they're both so good. But yeah, I just I was.
Speaker 1: I was at that one. So yeah, she did formation
Speaker 1: at the San Francisco one and she brought it back
Speaker 1: Destiny's Child. That was probably I would put that one
Speaker 1: among the ones I went to. I would put the
Speaker 1: Beyonce one at top top the list. Um As like
Speaker 1: a thirty seven year old dad who loves you too,
Speaker 1: like them playing After nine eleven. That's my favorite show ever.
Speaker 1: I thought that was very powerful. Uh do you have anything? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was a huge fan of The Boys, Two Men,
Speaker 1: Smokey Robinson, Martha Reemptations, and Queen Latifa. It was the
Speaker 1: shout out to Motown lindsay what about you? How could
Speaker 1: none of you guys say Prince? That was you know what,
Speaker 1: I respect Prince, rest in peace, Prince blah blah blah Prince. Uh.
Speaker 1: But that gets a ton of love, so I don't
Speaker 1: feel like they need more people show. I was at
Speaker 1: that press conference where Prince played, which was pretty cool
Speaker 1: that that wasn't the half time show, but you know
Speaker 1: that he did a press Scott Prince where he didn't speak,
Speaker 1: he just played three songs. That was pretty cool. And
Speaker 1: also the Beyonce before the Super Bowl in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: there was a controversy that she had not sung the
Speaker 1: national anthem before uh the I think Obama was inaugurated
Speaker 1: for the second time and there was a lot of
Speaker 1: heat around that at the time, so she walked out
Speaker 1: for her. UM. They do a press conference every year
Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl on like a Thursday, and she
Speaker 1: walked out, picked up a picked up a mic, and
Speaker 1: just like delivered a flawless rendition and the whole place
Speaker 1: was like, Yeah, controversy over. Yeah, moving on. Chuck says,
Speaker 1: what is the head coaches version of the Dalton scale?
Speaker 1: Me thinks it's John Fox. What you what about Marvin Lewis?
Speaker 1: Give me a break. Oh, he'll get you there, but
Speaker 1: then he won't get you any further. He'll get you
Speaker 1: You'll have a couple of nice season you get a
Speaker 1: little five into eleven, action four and twelve. Then you
Speaker 1: have a little thing where we get excited about Marvin Lewis,
Speaker 1: then he disappoints you. That's a perfect one. It's a
Speaker 1: good one. I feel like he's been too too successful
Speaker 1: with like an all time terrible franchise. Like he's like, well,
Speaker 1: isn't that Andy Dalton Fox? Kind of Yeah, that's Fox
Speaker 1: kind of works. I'm trying to think of the Jim
Speaker 1: Caldwell maybe right in the middle there calls not to
Speaker 1: a super Bowl, But yeah, I love that question. I
Speaker 1: feel like I need to think about Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I want to like, who else? Who else would be
Speaker 1: boxes A Fox is a pretty great, pretty great suggestion.
Speaker 1: Sean Payton sliding down, slid something to the table. Though
Speaker 1: he's not adult, he's not the adult in scale. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to go with someone that's also been like coaches,
Speaker 1: we don't know where does Pagano land. He weighs the
Speaker 1: whole thing down. Yeah, you know, Jason Garrett's a sneaky
Speaker 1: answer right there. People forget his first years and I
Speaker 1: know he doesn't find I'm kind of running, but I
Speaker 1: think if you put him in different situations, he's just
Speaker 1: going to be the guy that that brings you to
Speaker 1: the middle. It's a good one. Moving on this from Paul,
Speaker 1: which a f C division is a lock, he's locking
Speaker 1: it up to have multiple playoff team which a f
Speaker 1: C division a lock? Well, a lock is too strong.
Speaker 1: I just don't agree there is a lock af C East.
Speaker 1: I'll just go through it. In my mind, AFC is
Speaker 1: no lock for a second team. A f C North
Speaker 1: is kind of a no. The South uh no locks
Speaker 1: to be seen, but probably it's a sneaky division. If
Speaker 1: you believe in Jacksonville and Houston and Tennessee, two of
Speaker 1: those three maybe getting the spot case. I would say
Speaker 1: the A f C West is to be still because
Speaker 1: I still think the Raiders, spite the records taken play
Speaker 1: and I think the Chiefs will make it. That would
Speaker 1: be my selection. I'm wet with West, but with the West,
Speaker 1: but it's also been easily well the North too, but
Speaker 1: the most disappointing a f C division or division in football.
Speaker 1: I think the East is a good chance. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: lock I would lock up the West too, but I
Speaker 1: would kind of if I had to guess, I'd go
Speaker 1: the East gets one in the West gets one. Really,
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills and the Dolphins are four and two.
Speaker 1: It's not you know there someone's gonna win those division games. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is from David When's it time for the Fork podcast?
Speaker 1: Reckon it will be the toughest season to call for
Speaker 1: a while. Great news to everybody. Next Tuesday. They figured
Speaker 1: at the midway point of the season, Uh, bust out
Speaker 1: the fork and and say so long to some teams
Speaker 1: that we decide have no chance to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Very dangerous Gregg proposition in two thousand and seventeen. Probably
Speaker 1: not in week eight, but right there's almost we kind
Speaker 1: of I kind of went through the four that I
Speaker 1: would choose right now, and I at least as of
Speaker 1: this week, maybe throw the Cardinals in there too, now
Speaker 1: that I think of it. With Carson Palmer out, that's
Speaker 1: about it. Yeah, so it's gonna be difficult, of course.
Speaker 1: Will there be like bagels and things? Is there gonna
Speaker 1: be We've got to get together locks, bagels, some um
Speaker 1: irish soda bread, my mom's shipping te coffee and we
Speaker 1: all just get together and we we figure it out,
Speaker 1: and of course if we get anything wrong, we donate
Speaker 1: to a charity of that in that team's city, just
Speaker 1: like we did the last time this exercise. Every year,
Speaker 1: I think, I think we've never and at one time
Speaker 1: we didn't get it wrong, didn't get it yes, But
Speaker 1: every other year there's been some team that we got wrong.
Speaker 1: Who is this from Peter who is Yeah, so, um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna fork it next Tuesday. This from Peter who
Speaker 1: is the front runner for m v P so far
Speaker 1: this year. Um, kind of touch on this earlier. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna stick with him. Colleen's boy, Carson wins. I'm
Speaker 1: all excited about him, I'll say him. I think he's surging.
Speaker 1: I think Greg was correct the front runner right now
Speaker 1: for me would be Tom Brady. Brady would be my pick,
Speaker 1: although I think if the vote was today, people are
Speaker 1: just getting so caught up in whatever just happened. When today,
Speaker 1: the fact that the conversation is even Tom Brady or
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is MP Alex Smith kind of blowing my mind.
Speaker 1: Alex Smith is in the mix. Seventeen touchdowns and no
Speaker 1: interceptions one last week. But it's a lot of lucky.
Speaker 1: Maybe on Bell's a sneak I was gonna say, a
Speaker 1: non quarterback, sneaky guy that that could move up. It's
Speaker 1: even gonna be alive by week seventeen. If you can't
Speaker 1: be Alex Smith and go on TNF and lose, that's
Speaker 1: not how mpy. They have five primetime games, he's not.
Speaker 1: He's got to keep doing doing one he's played. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't really put that loss on him. When I'm putting
Speaker 1: on him, I'm just saying the only reason we're talking
Speaker 1: about Carson Wentz is because of what he did last night. Right,
Speaker 1: no one was talking about this twenty four hours, But
Speaker 1: Alex Smith had a unbelievable Monday night performance, had an
Speaker 1: unbelievable kickoff game performance. He's gonna have a couple more
Speaker 1: about to win some of those games. You were making
Speaker 1: fun of the schedule makers for putting the Chiefs in
Speaker 1: primetime five times. I think in the first eight weeks.
Speaker 1: You know what, it worked out. They worked out well,
Speaker 1: schedule guys, they nailed it. This from most Ferrato. I'm trying, buddy. Uh.
Speaker 1: If Aaron Rodgers can throw again in six weeks after surgery,
Speaker 1: do you think my parents will get back together? That's
Speaker 1: not a real it deserves a real it is I
Speaker 1: saw the tweet. Um, I I just hope that's the case.
Speaker 1: No matter what Aaron Rodgers does, I hope that would
Speaker 1: be the case, if that's what's right for your family.
Speaker 1: The answer, by the way, is no. They don't love
Speaker 1: each other anymore. And they made the decision. Once they
Speaker 1: made the decision to separate, they realized that, Wow, why
Speaker 1: did we wait so long to do this? Uh, And
Speaker 1: let's hope they're just happier with whoever they end up with.
Speaker 1: It doesn't always go that way, but uh, well, well,
Speaker 1: plus plus it's over, Yeah, I don't Yeah, that's not
Speaker 1: going to happen for Aaron Rodgers throwing arm all right?
Speaker 1: And finally, uh, Carlos asks, what's the favorite movie you've
Speaker 1: seen this year? Well, I guess all right, so I'll
Speaker 1: start everybody off. I'm not a particular movie bo Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not, but uh and this movie is a movie.
Speaker 1: But I did watch it for the first time this year,
Speaker 1: and I love Cicario. Have you guys seen it with
Speaker 1: Emily Blunt? It's so so good. If you haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: watch it. It's a great one. Yeah, it's like she's,
Speaker 1: you know, an FBI agent situation drug lords. It's awesome. Mark.
Speaker 1: I read the tweet as like a movie that came
Speaker 1: out this year, so it's a smaller sample size, but
Speaker 1: I probably where my eye and I'm saying that's when
Speaker 1: my answer came from um mother, I thought was something
Speaker 1: I cannot stop thinking about it. Well, I would not.
Speaker 1: I also would not suggest that anyone else go see it.
Speaker 1: I don't want anyone to go see it based off
Speaker 1: of without being curious on your own is it's disturbing?
Speaker 1: Did you guys see it together? We did? We did
Speaker 1: it thing where like I sat down and then Dan
Speaker 1: like sat two seats away from me and ourselves and
Speaker 1: I remember because we drove down. Speaking of YouTube, We
Speaker 1: drove down to San Diego on a Friday night last month. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it was like we had tied. We didn't want
Speaker 1: to get too drunk before the show played it smart,
Speaker 1: so we said, let's go see a movie. And I
Speaker 1: remember thinking to myself and market already seen it two
Speaker 1: days earlier. I remember thinking myself as the opening credit started,
Speaker 1: and I knew it was like a heavy, deep movie.
Speaker 1: I was like, what am I doing here? It wasn't
Speaker 1: very It was, by the way, not only we, yes,
Speaker 1: because I had to go find out what I had
Speaker 1: seen the first time, and we this movie theater were
Speaker 1: in was cut from a three reality. It was an
Speaker 1: entire mall complex like nothing there was modernized. And then
Speaker 1: the movie we saw only added to it, and Dan
Speaker 1: and I had to walk like fourteen city blocks to
Speaker 1: kind of shake off the malaise of it. Yes, what
Speaker 1: the whole thing you wanted a movie? It sounds like
Speaker 1: it had an effect. I didn't. I wouldn't say I enjoyed.
Speaker 1: I think I'm just thinking. I think I've seen four
Speaker 1: movies this year, so get out at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the year, which I enjoyed quite a bit. Uh. I
Speaker 1: saw Mother, which just weirded me out mostly, and I
Speaker 1: would not suggest if you have young children. I saw
Speaker 1: The Big Sick and I liked The Big Sick. I
Speaker 1: didn't hate it, didn't love it, and I saw it
Speaker 1: which was more kind of therapy for me to like
Speaker 1: take a personal moment. Yeah, what do they call it?
Speaker 1: The type of therapy where you have to face your
Speaker 1: embrace your fears and face them. So I didn't. I
Speaker 1: don't really have a favorite movie. I guess it would
Speaker 1: be get Out would be my favorite movie that I
Speaker 1: saw of the four, so I'll say that. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: only seen two movies this year. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: the Defiant Ones if that counts. It's on HBO. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a movie. It was documentary documentary. It's a
Speaker 1: bit of documentary, but it was very good. Documentaries are movies.
Speaker 1: But that is maybe a limited series. You could you
Speaker 1: could argue exposure therapy. That's that was why I saw it.
Speaker 1: Have you do you have like an experience with that
Speaker 1: before exposure therapy? First time I tried it out and
Speaker 1: I think I kind of worked. I had a little
Speaker 1: less scared of clowns now. So you can't hurt me,
Speaker 1: You can't hurt me. Connie and I love that one too.
Speaker 1: That was great. Uh what was it called again? The
Speaker 1: Defiant Ones? That something Guild. That was pretty good. Little
Speaker 1: Colin Farrell action a little cope. All right, Um, we
Speaker 1: will be back on Thursday. We will recap that Ravens
Speaker 1: Dolphins game and then of course get into all of
Speaker 1: the week eight games, Week eight mark halfway home, halfway over,
Speaker 1: halfway pointed the scene talk to me a week about
Speaker 1: halfway don't even talk to um? All right, I made
Speaker 1: it through a show. You did a great job. Hey,
Speaker 1: the whole show. This is Dan Hands is signing off.
Speaker 1: Make sure you check out our video show again. Dan
Speaker 1: Hands is signing off for Quiet Storm, Connie Fox, the
Speaker 1: Old Boss, and Lindsay Bolton Behind the Glass. It's out
Speaker 1: Thursday six