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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast,
Speaker 1: presented by Head and Shoulders. My name is Dan Hansers,
Speaker 1: and I'm joined my room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf and Greg rosaal what's up? People? Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
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Speaker 1: there's no litigation concerns. Especially if you go with five,
Speaker 1: I would go six. Maybe cover your maybe next week, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe more than we're asking for, but keep work shopping.
Speaker 1: By like next season, the entire show will just be saying, hey,
Speaker 1: be an improvement in some ways. Oh, Greg, we're twelve
Speaker 1: seconds into the show and you buried the production already.
Speaker 1: That's just great sense of humorous guys, and I like it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fun. Um. Yes, this is the Tuesday edition of
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. It is the Trade Deadline
Speaker 1: Bonanza episode nice. I think, I think, uh spectacular. I
Speaker 1: think the the Trade Deadline finally grew up. It's all
Speaker 1: growns up the NFL. It's a real fun thing. Though
Speaker 1: it gets to joint basketball and baseball. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on in hockey, but now, like the trade
Speaker 1: deadline football, I feel like right now it has some legitimacy.
Speaker 1: Is something where big stuff can happen and where you
Speaker 1: can expect something to happen it actually does hasn't really
Speaker 1: the last few years. Some years it has something has
Speaker 1: been I think the Patriots have helped kickstart this. They
Speaker 1: have made not just because not just because of you know,
Speaker 1: the Jimmy Garoppolo trade, which we'll get to, but they
Speaker 1: have made eight or nine trades this year. I forget
Speaker 1: what the number is as we're taping this. No one
Speaker 1: in the NFL made more than six last year, and
Speaker 1: they were the leaders in six And now everyone's thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: trading is the new cool thing. The Patriots. That team
Speaker 1: seems to know what they're doing. Shocking. A lot of
Speaker 1: the its haven't really worked out too out, but that
Speaker 1: you know, forget about that. UM coming up on today's show.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so much to get to we are going
Speaker 1: to do. We're gonna go through the three big trades,
Speaker 1: UM and anything else that that comes across the wire
Speaker 1: before we finish. UM. Winners and losers of each of
Speaker 1: those deals. Uh. Then uh, we have some games to
Speaker 1: talk about. We have the Monday night football recap between
Speaker 1: the Broncos and Chiefs, Chiefs getting off the schneid, and
Speaker 1: then the Thursday night football preview between the Bills and
Speaker 1: Jets at the Meadowlands. Week nine, mark, we are more
Speaker 1: than halfway done with the season. Nonsense, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: We've We've mentioned this roughly seventy times on this podcast.
Speaker 1: I think about week twelve is the midpoint. There are
Speaker 1: teams that haven't even played eight games. Can me give
Speaker 1: me a break? And um we to playoffs? That makes sense?
Speaker 1: Yea halfway home mark? Until you're kicking your legs up
Speaker 1: with the Martini in your little backshep. I just had
Speaker 1: one for first time and like years the other night,
Speaker 1: you should just nothing stopping from yah, And I don't
Speaker 1: think I don't think this season has stopped marketing. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just me. I'm the only one with it with
Speaker 1: some sort of apparent issue off the field. So there
Speaker 1: you go. That's today's episode. Happy Halloween to everyone in
Speaker 1: the States. It's gonna be fun for the three of
Speaker 1: us with kids and Colleen. You and GNS are those
Speaker 1: type of people that treat your pets as people, so
Speaker 1: I guess you're probably dressing them up in costumes. No,
Speaker 1: this is their least favorite holiday of the year, the dogs,
Speaker 1: because they don't like kids. Doorbell ringing. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: lot they get. They get really scared. And I thought, you,
Speaker 1: you know, our friend Neil Reynolds on sky Sport pointed out,
Speaker 1: you know, Halloween does take place in the rest of
Speaker 1: the world, including it, not really though I were playing
Speaker 1: attention to what Neil said. He even not as bad,
Speaker 1: even called it a little bit ridiculous. I think was
Speaker 1: his word over the top that we are we as
Speaker 1: a country. And I love it. By the way, one
Speaker 1: of my favorite holidays. I like that everyone kind of
Speaker 1: gets in the speed or it. I'm weighing on Halloween decorate. Um,
Speaker 1: it was fun when I was a kid. Then in
Speaker 1: in college, it was fun. The parties in early twenties,
Speaker 1: mid twenties life in New York City, so much fun,
Speaker 1: Halloween parties. Now I got kids, there was like a
Speaker 1: gap from like thirty to thirty five where it was
Speaker 1: all over for Halloween. It was just kind of a
Speaker 1: little bit of northing. But now it's back all I
Speaker 1: like the kid aspect the rest of it. Take it
Speaker 1: or leave it, deal with it. Neil Reynolds. By the way,
Speaker 1: if if the if the United Kingdom has computers, so
Speaker 1: you you do seem to have some sort of suspicion
Speaker 1: about the rest of outside of America being up to snuff.
Speaker 1: I certainly never said that. But it's a good bit
Speaker 1: and I like it. We got so much to get too,
Speaker 1: so let's do it. And yes, let's start with I
Speaker 1: guess the biggest trade. Oh yeah, alright, volume up speaking,
Speaker 1: the biggest news, The New England Patriots have traded quarterback
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo to the San Francisco forty Niners for a
Speaker 1: two thousand second round pick. Uh. The forty Niners announced
Speaker 1: it on Tuesday. Uh. A bombshell trade. Um. I think
Speaker 1: I caught a lot of people off guard. And to me, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is when the trade deadline, to me, went next
Speaker 1: level when a quarterback of potential franchise quarterback gets moved
Speaker 1: and nobody saw it, come and love it so saucy.
Speaker 1: Here's what Bill Belichick had to say on the trade.
Speaker 1: We probably had, in my opinion, the best quarterback situation
Speaker 1: in the league for the last called two and a
Speaker 1: half years. Um, it's just not sustainable given the the
Speaker 1: way that things are set up. It's definitely not something
Speaker 1: that we wanted to walk away from. And I felt
Speaker 1: like we wrote it out as long as we could. Um.
Speaker 1: We've over a period of time, explored every option possible
Speaker 1: to try to sustain it. Um Uh. At this point,
Speaker 1: I felt like we had to how to make a decision.
Speaker 1: M greg Um your initial thoughts when you heard about
Speaker 1: this trade. You are a Patriots been a second round
Speaker 1: pick for Garoppolo? Were you a little underwhelmed by the
Speaker 1: haul that the Patriots got for Jimmy j I was
Speaker 1: because of some of the reports out of Cleveland, specifically
Speaker 1: about what it would take to get Garoppolo. Now, if
Speaker 1: you really looked at those reports over the summer, they
Speaker 1: never said any team was offering that much, but the
Speaker 1: Patriots wanted a first round pick plus or two first
Speaker 1: round picks, and you kind of forgot about the situation.
Speaker 1: Now the reporting afterwards it makes a little more sense.
Speaker 1: First of all, Jimmy Garoppolo and the Patriots were negotiating
Speaker 1: in terms of a new contract, and the Patriots were
Speaker 1: pushing hard all reports indicate to try to get him
Speaker 1: to what would have been essentially starting quarterback money, that
Speaker 1: they would have paid him a lot of money to
Speaker 1: beat Tom Brady's back, and he wasn't interested. He wanted
Speaker 1: to be a starter, He wanted to play. And Ian
Speaker 1: Rappaport are NFL media insider, said no one ever offered
Speaker 1: more than a second round pick plus during the off season.
Speaker 1: The Patriots thought that wasn't enough. That makes sense, so
Speaker 1: why not trade him for a second round pick? Now?
Speaker 1: All right, so let's get into it a little winners
Speaker 1: and losers of this trade. Mark, We're gonna start with
Speaker 1: you give us a winner and loser. Garoppolo d a winner.
Speaker 1: I will not forget watching the Cowboys Niners game from
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, where the Niners were getting
Speaker 1: thrashed and they cut to John Lynch up in the
Speaker 1: way up in the booth top of the stadium and
Speaker 1: then look on his face it said, at all, we
Speaker 1: don't have enough talent, we don't have a quarterback, and
Speaker 1: and you're in your off season suddenly is about trying
Speaker 1: to wrangle Kirk Cousins away from Washington and make that happen.
Speaker 1: Everything everyone assuming that's gonna happen. John Lynch to be
Speaker 1: a general manager and to stick around for more than
Speaker 1: a couple of years, you have to find a quarterback.
Speaker 1: And he's done it. And he's done it in a
Speaker 1: way that completely surprised everyone when we thought, well, probably
Speaker 1: Cleveland is a team to get, go get Jimmy g No.
Speaker 1: This came out of left field, and I think they
Speaker 1: solved a major issue. They go into the draft. Now
Speaker 1: the potential first, first or second overall pick, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be used at the quarterback, and you
Speaker 1: also get seven or eight games. He's probably not gonna
Speaker 1: start this. You get seven or eight games, and you
Speaker 1: get the guy in your building to evaluate him. They
Speaker 1: do have to sign him, right, that seems like it
Speaker 1: will happen. I think one of the losers of this
Speaker 1: is probably Kirk Cousins. Now, Kirk Cousins, he's gonna get
Speaker 1: paid no matter what's so good for him hopefully, but
Speaker 1: I think that he loses probably the best situation that
Speaker 1: he could have landed in terms of outside teams, going
Speaker 1: to the forty Niners with Kyle Shanahan. That was what
Speaker 1: I just assumed was going to happen, and now that's
Speaker 1: probably off the table and he's got a good coach
Speaker 1: in Jay Gruden, but I think the organization I would
Speaker 1: take my chances going over with Kyle Shanahan, you had
Speaker 1: a history with I'm gonna throw out another winner. Donald
Speaker 1: ye Oh, you don't know, Donald ye Yeah, we know. Not.
Speaker 1: The most famous agent in the league barely has any clients,
Speaker 1: but for some reason, two of his clients are Tom
Speaker 1: Brady and Jimmy Garoppolo, which always so you need a
Speaker 1: second like totally can call him bomb. Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: totally ridiculous, conflict of interest. And now he's got the
Speaker 1: forty Niners over a barrel. You gotta give you gotta
Speaker 1: give him big time money. Now, what do we know
Speaker 1: about Jimmy Garoppolo besides those six quarters that he played, like,
Speaker 1: who knows how good he's even going to be there
Speaker 1: in a tricky spout the Niners, and the fact that, yes,
Speaker 1: now he's in the building, but he's starting from scratch
Speaker 1: with that team and you basically get what two months
Speaker 1: to evaluate him and then decide if you're going to
Speaker 1: pay him like a star quarterback. That's a little bit
Speaker 1: give him the franchise tag. I think if there's if
Speaker 1: the franchise tag didn't, then you're paying him. Thetriates were
Speaker 1: willing to pay him a ton and they wanted to
Speaker 1: keep him. They've evaluated him for years, so that's that's
Speaker 1: me and they also, I think they were waiting to
Speaker 1: see over these last few years if Tom Brady ever
Speaker 1: fell off, and he and he never did so at
Speaker 1: some point they just knew they couldn't keep him. And
Speaker 1: you do get a high second round pick. I mean
Speaker 1: it's going to be the thirty third um I believe
Speaker 1: in terms of like a winner, I think the entire
Speaker 1: a f C East wins here. I think the Patriots
Speaker 1: win because they do get although I thought they would
Speaker 1: get something better still, a high second round pick that's
Speaker 1: basically like a late first rounder given how bad the
Speaker 1: Niners have been so far this year, and they remove
Speaker 1: any of that melodrama around that quarterback room and Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: the greatest player ever, like this idea that potentially they
Speaker 1: will have to make a decision going forward whether he's
Speaker 1: gonna end his career in New England or they want
Speaker 1: to go into and that's all gone now. Uh. And
Speaker 1: if you're the Patriots, is probably a big relief off
Speaker 1: your shoulders. Let's just move forward to tom and see
Speaker 1: how far we can take this the rest of the
Speaker 1: ANFC East. And I'll say this as a Jets fan,
Speaker 1: I love it. Not only uh is Jimmy Garoppolo out
Speaker 1: of the conference and he was giving me bad vibes,
Speaker 1: is like being really really good. I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: it's just the Patriots thing, but seven quarters he had
Speaker 1: a great But now he's out west in the NFC,
Speaker 1: and the Patriots are now just like everybody else in
Speaker 1: the sense that there is no succession plan in place
Speaker 1: right now, there's nothing pristine set up for them. Once
Speaker 1: Tommy Boy goes off into the sunset, will have this
Speaker 1: guy that we believe can maybe take us another decade.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, now you're all in with a
Speaker 1: guy and again he's playing just as well as ever.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be forty one next summer. And if he
Speaker 1: gets hurt, if he decides he wants, if Giselle convinces
Speaker 1: him to walk away in a year or two, he
Speaker 1: gets yeah, if he does start to have a gradual
Speaker 1: decline because he is a middle aged man, now they
Speaker 1: don't have anything to fall back on, and you feel
Speaker 1: like finally have a little hope Dan has Dan has
Speaker 1: a glow about him. Colleen, No, I just the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I just never know what to think with them and
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and and the fact that he's still playing
Speaker 1: right now the way that he is. Maybe he is
Speaker 1: going to play until he's like fifty, but he could
Speaker 1: get hurt this year, You're right, And then suddenly, like
Speaker 1: if you have Garoppolo there, you think maybe they can
Speaker 1: win a super Bowl or contend for one with Garoppolo.
Speaker 1: Anything could happen. Tom Brady is not superhuman. And now
Speaker 1: whoever they bring in, if it's gonna be Brian Hoyer,
Speaker 1: that's that's off the table. That's why I didn't understand.
Speaker 1: I saw some arguments like, well, you know all this
Speaker 1: talk and you didn't even get that much value for him,
Speaker 1: But that overlooks the fact that he was your backup
Speaker 1: quarterback for for two and a half years. He was
Speaker 1: on the team for three and a half years. Backup
Speaker 1: quarterback is very valuable. That's a monster insurance policy. I
Speaker 1: know tom Brady hasn't gotten hurt, but that's an important position,
Speaker 1: like that's more important than you're starting defensive And so
Speaker 1: they got value out of him being there, and if
Speaker 1: something had happened, they would have had a great guy
Speaker 1: in the in place. Didn't happened, I would I'd look
Speaker 1: at it more as the end of the franchise. And then,
Speaker 1: last but not least for me, I think the Browns
Speaker 1: are a loser here because you missed out on Wentz,
Speaker 1: miss out on Watson. Now it always felt like Garoppolo,
Speaker 1: they really had the inside track. They miss out on Garoppolo.
Speaker 1: And if that report's true that they have all this
Speaker 1: draft capital and never offered a first round pick to
Speaker 1: get him, that to me. The other whisper though, is
Speaker 1: that Belichick didn't want to give him to Cleveland, that
Speaker 1: he he intentionally would not allow that they didn't listen
Speaker 1: the minute this How did I find out about this trade?
Speaker 1: Because these guys are texting me the minute it happens,
Speaker 1: and it's like somehow it's my failure as a Browns
Speaker 1: fan and it's all heaped on me. I couldn't be
Speaker 1: more frustrated. I don't know how you don't get this
Speaker 1: thing done. And it's not just forget to Shaun Watson.
Speaker 1: Everyone in the lead could have to Shaun Watson that
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz thing is on Cleveland at this point, and
Speaker 1: so is Jimmy g. But there is the Patriots need
Speaker 1: to agree to ship them to Cleveland. And there are
Speaker 1: whispers out there that the Patriots did not wanted They
Speaker 1: point to the A F. C. Or Cleave. But the
Speaker 1: Browns didn't want him that much. I mean they wanted him,
Speaker 1: but they didn't want him that much. They haven't got
Speaker 1: they could have got. They have not had enough food
Speaker 1: for them. They have not had conviction about any of
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. And that it all makes sense in a
Speaker 1: vacuum each decision, but as a whole. At some point
Speaker 1: you gotta make a choice. Because if all they offered
Speaker 1: was a second round pick and change, well they didn't
Speaker 1: want him that much because Patriots. I I understand why
Speaker 1: the Patriots didn't trade him. It's not quite worth it enough.
Speaker 1: At that point, you don't know, you know, And that's
Speaker 1: how one upfront office gets swept out of town. And
Speaker 1: if you're if you're if you're John Lynch, you've gotten
Speaker 1: the guy and you're you've extended your life in that
Speaker 1: front office. Another big loss, though, is your CJ beat
Speaker 1: hard bit because I feel like he gets one more
Speaker 1: start here. Yeah, on the flip side, I was kind
Speaker 1: of beating that hard into the ground. Maybe maybe it's
Speaker 1: kind of over Mary that bit on Halloween. NFL fans
Speaker 1: that don't have to watch that forty years offense anymore.
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, absolutely all right, next next big trade,
Speaker 1: Let's move on the Dolphins and this one. I woke
Speaker 1: up to the alert on the old cellular phone. Don't
Speaker 1: used to annoy you? Are you still annoyed when that happens? Always? Well?
Speaker 1: What was the one that got on my radar? It
Speaker 1: was like area. It was like Dean Blandino leaves NFL
Speaker 1: to be a Fox sideline booth. NFL players way in
Speaker 1: on first week of NBA. C's the inside. You need
Speaker 1: to be informed of these things. I got my own
Speaker 1: thing going on. I don't attach myself to the machine.
Speaker 1: I'm like like a prime Jay Glazer. I don't know
Speaker 1: if Jay glazers still in his inside prime when he
Speaker 1: was kind of in his own like universe. That's where
Speaker 1: that's you know, by the way, on your phone, you
Speaker 1: can turn these alerts off. Jay. I you know, I
Speaker 1: made the decision no notifications from anything, and it has
Speaker 1: changed my life at it solved the problem. I just
Speaker 1: want to know if you're gonna throw a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: glazer if you are kind of going trending in that direction.
Speaker 1: Colin and I attended a couple of these JA glazer parties,
Speaker 1: and they're always interesting, to say the least. They were
Speaker 1: so much fun. It's like the best part of Super Bowl. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, let me get back on track here. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the second big trade, the Philadelphia Eagles acquired running
Speaker 1: back j A. G I from the Miami Dolphins. Both
Speaker 1: teams announced Miami receives a two thousand, eighteen fourth round
Speaker 1: draft pick in return. Greg, we'll start with you on
Speaker 1: this one. First of all, your uh initial thoughts on
Speaker 1: this deal, well, honestly they was like, Oh, it's too
Speaker 1: bad Frank Gore's not going there, because that was what
Speaker 1: I was hoping for. There was some reports that they
Speaker 1: were interested, and now there were reports that had talked
Speaker 1: with the Colts about it. But after that, I thought, Wow,
Speaker 1: what a great move forward. Not only a gi he
Speaker 1: gets to go from one of the worst offenses in
Speaker 1: the league to a seven and one number one seed
Speaker 1: in the NFC, but what a great move for Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: who needs a little more in that running game. The
Speaker 1: last few weeks, Lagarrett Blunt been under I think to
Speaker 1: three yards per carry, hasn't done anything inside the goal line,
Speaker 1: and I think a GI has really been held down
Speaker 1: by that offensive one. Let's start then with the winners
Speaker 1: and losers, and I'll kind of piggyback off that point.
Speaker 1: The Eagles fans. If you're an Eagles fan, Connie Fox,
Speaker 1: you're an Eagles fan, uh so I'll let you share
Speaker 1: your thoughts. But I'm thinking as an outsider, you already
Speaker 1: feel like right now you're you're in the pole position
Speaker 1: as an NFC leading contender to get to the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and now you just brought in a guy that a
Speaker 1: lot of people agree is a work horse type stud
Speaker 1: running back to kind of add to a position of weakness.
Speaker 1: As as I said last week, it's making me even
Speaker 1: more stressed out because I don't like how everybody is
Speaker 1: now like, oh, the Eagles are flying high, look at them,
Speaker 1: because now if they are end up being like a
Speaker 1: wild card team that loses in the first if you
Speaker 1: had told if you haven't told that before the scene
Speaker 1: and be like, oh that's great, and now it's going
Speaker 1: to be a huge Yeah. So when I saw about
Speaker 1: j N. I know it's true, and that's like my
Speaker 1: comfort zone. I feel better when like everybody is just like,
Speaker 1: you know, going against the Eagles, and that's kind of
Speaker 1: my default position. But when I saw that they traded
Speaker 1: for j J I e this morning, I thought it
Speaker 1: was a joke. I was watching Good Morning Football and
Speaker 1: I thought it was one of their bits that they
Speaker 1: were doing, and I was like, this can't be real,
Speaker 1: like or so, this means that the Eagles are like
Speaker 1: in it. They they they're for real about this and
Speaker 1: they're stocking up right now for the long haul. Now.
Speaker 1: I thought that it was weird because I didn't think
Speaker 1: that they were going to get a running back at
Speaker 1: the trade deadline. I thought that they were going to
Speaker 1: go for an offensive tackle, maybe Dwayne Brown. So for me,
Speaker 1: I thought like a loser would be the Eagles offensive
Speaker 1: line because they probably needed the most help there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's I think you've lost their key player
Speaker 1: on your offense and an impossible position I'm not taking.
Speaker 1: I like this. I like to sort of shrouded in victimhood.
Speaker 1: Now the Eagles are good. How do I handle this?
Speaker 1: All pro young expectations? He's too high around our m
Speaker 1: v P Candid center. Here's the thing that he's only
Speaker 1: twenty four years old and he's only due a million
Speaker 1: dollars total over the next year and a half, so
Speaker 1: he's essentially a minimum salary player. He has paid like
Speaker 1: a late round pick, which is what he was. They're
Speaker 1: basically getting him for free. I mean, a fourth round
Speaker 1: pick is something, but it's not that much. It's very little.
Speaker 1: I I mean, I guess some of these trades that
Speaker 1: what you get in return is the surprise is always
Speaker 1: how low and there's a little bit of a red
Speaker 1: flag on a diet Let's put that first, always having
Speaker 1: a terrible year. He's averaging less than three and a
Speaker 1: half yards carry, hasn't scored a touchdown. Clear Really there's
Speaker 1: something going on behind the scenes for them to give
Speaker 1: up on a guy that we I mean, that gets
Speaker 1: the my loser, one of my losers of this trade.
Speaker 1: The football got SENTI this trade and to me to
Speaker 1: a lesser extent, the Garoppolo trade just again points out
Speaker 1: how like people that cover the sport, we don't really
Speaker 1: know what's going on. We think we do. And then
Speaker 1: this but like, for instance, like the general consensus was
Speaker 1: that when the Patriots finally trade Garoppolo, if they did,
Speaker 1: it was gonna be for a Herschel Walker type hall
Speaker 1: not at that level, but like multiple first round picks
Speaker 1: in the Austin It was all like, obviously it wouldn't
Speaker 1: happen in season. Now he's gone. J g I. We
Speaker 1: all talked about this podcast, all the fantasy community talked
Speaker 1: about this is the best young running back in the
Speaker 1: football outside maybe David Johnson, Levy on Bell and Zeke.
Speaker 1: But he was right there in that next group, at
Speaker 1: the top of the next group. And then he gets
Speaker 1: dealt away for fifty cents on the dollar or is it?
Speaker 1: Do we even know if j Gi actually is as
Speaker 1: good as we all thought he was. People that know
Speaker 1: the game, that's studying the tape, that do football for
Speaker 1: life behind the scenes see that a guy that he's
Speaker 1: not that the Eagles apparently have been looking at him,
Speaker 1: how wee. Roseman said today that they've been looking at
Speaker 1: him since joint training camp. I think people love the tape.
Speaker 1: I think people that watch him in his running style
Speaker 1: love it. What the Dolphins don't love And this you
Speaker 1: don't need any sources on this because Adam Gates is
Speaker 1: the source. He killed the gi E after the last
Speaker 1: game for essentially freelancing and not doing his assignment, not
Speaker 1: hitting the hole that he was supposed to, trying to
Speaker 1: break it outside looking for big plays instead of taking
Speaker 1: the four or five yards that are there, and that
Speaker 1: doesn't work. But I trust Pro football focuses numbers a
Speaker 1: little bit. The Dolphins run blocking has been one of
Speaker 1: the three or four worst league since the j I got.
Speaker 1: I honestly think that he's run The stats may not
Speaker 1: be either, but when you watch the Dolphins and when
Speaker 1: he's run well, and it's been plenty of games where
Speaker 1: he still has what he had last season, I think
Speaker 1: it's a big move for the Eagles, but for me
Speaker 1: a loser because this already was on my radar. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins were fun to watch down the stress last year.
Speaker 1: It was my kind of football. They were running the ball,
Speaker 1: that's how their offense was engined. And now you've taken
Speaker 1: away a gif often attack that is impossible to watch.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins watch ability ratings have been dipping all year.
Speaker 1: That's a big loser for me. Anyone that's stuck watching
Speaker 1: this team, if it's your job, if you're a fan,
Speaker 1: if like last week, I'm asked to go watch the
Speaker 1: Ravens play the Dolphins. They get blanked forty to nothing. Unrewarding,
Speaker 1: unrewardingin had Ro That's why you gotta stay home, you know.
Speaker 1: And Handsome Hank, you know Henry Hodson who had j
Speaker 1: GI the England dude is running back. That's all gone
Speaker 1: now that honeymoon is over. And I do feel sorry
Speaker 1: for our overseas fans. Would you just say, Handsome Hank
Speaker 1: was one of the losers of this check. He is
Speaker 1: a raging loser. And I talked to him maybe the
Speaker 1: beginning of September, end of August about this very thing.
Speaker 1: How exciting is it to you, Hank that your favorite
Speaker 1: team has this like foundational running back that's from Great
Speaker 1: Britain and what an exciting thing it is? And he
Speaker 1: was honestly, he was like, yeah, it's amazing and just
Speaker 1: like that that kind of that goes back to my
Speaker 1: jersey wiped away. Yeah, a lot of UK fans that's
Speaker 1: a jersey. We saw it at the at the Dolphins game.
Speaker 1: I think you should just get I don't want to
Speaker 1: hurt the NFL shop sales, but I really do feel
Speaker 1: like you should wait until an entire career plays out. Like,
Speaker 1: for instance, I don't really wear football jerseys anymore. I
Speaker 1: haven't been to a football game as a fan since
Speaker 1: I came to this coming did you stop? He said? Anymore?
Speaker 1: When did you stop? If I was before I took
Speaker 1: the shop, if I went to the Jet game, I'd
Speaker 1: get my old Wayne Kurbet jersey out. It's the only
Speaker 1: acceptable piece to wear jersey. I couldn't agree more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like this idea of getting a guy early in
Speaker 1: his career, unless he's like an absolute superstar, he gotta
Speaker 1: be careful. I think the Jerseys need to have a
Speaker 1: new type of technology where the letters on the back
Speaker 1: and even the numbers are easily added and taken off
Speaker 1: at jail board. Right, So changing Drake that you have
Speaker 1: fantasy owners of Ken in Drake on point though handsome,
Speaker 1: hands handsome Hank Hanks Stock has dropped a tough autumn
Speaker 1: our old friend like Gary Blunt, loser. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he'll be on the Patriots's what's the story? It's
Speaker 1: all Adam Gays just feels like a general loser in
Speaker 1: this whole scenario because of the offense. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: fair points. Things have gone hill gone downhill very quick. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I saw a lot of like, like this is Adam
Speaker 1: Gays teaching them him a lesson. I'm like, okay, but
Speaker 1: your team got worse in your offense and you're an
Speaker 1: offensive coaches terrible. I feel like Gays is trying to
Speaker 1: do everything out of desperation. He's like calling them out
Speaker 1: and saying, how like terrible they've been multiple weeks saying
Speaker 1: that they're like the offense has been garbage. I mean,
Speaker 1: I like that he so many coaches are vanilla. He
Speaker 1: wears his emotions on his sleeve. Um. Finally, the other
Speaker 1: big trade, Dwayne Brown on the move. The veteran left
Speaker 1: tackle traded to the Seattle Seahawks for cornerback Jeremy Lane,
Speaker 1: a second round pick in twenty nineteen and a fifth
Speaker 1: round pick in eighteen. Rap Sheet reported and immediately, uh, Colleen,
Speaker 1: starting with you on this one. Immediately, the Seahawks upgrade
Speaker 1: at a major position of weakness. Dayne Brown, who held
Speaker 1: out for the first seven weeks of the season, finally
Speaker 1: came back. Was disgruntled. But now they get a left
Speaker 1: tackle that you can actually protect. That's the star quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's The obvious winner is Russell Wilson because he's just
Speaker 1: constantly running for his life. And I don't know how
Speaker 1: much Dwayne Brown is going to help an entire offensive
Speaker 1: line that seems to be a mess year after year
Speaker 1: after year. But yeah, hopefully it's something for them because
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson he's able to do it somehow every year
Speaker 1: and he's able to just like run around and stay healthy.
Speaker 1: But I don't know how you can really sustain that.
Speaker 1: So I think that this really helps them, especially since
Speaker 1: they're improving right now. That's absolutely true. And for me,
Speaker 1: the winner is the NFC playoff picture because coming off
Speaker 1: of the game against Houston Seattle Houston, that was the
Speaker 1: most fascinating game we've seen in ages and it made
Speaker 1: me believe off again in the Seahawks a little bit.
Speaker 1: Now you've added a left tackle. A month ago, I
Speaker 1: was out on the Seahawks and I thought they're gonna
Speaker 1: float into the playoffs and we're gonna overrate them. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be a very predictable finish. I
Speaker 1: don't feel that way now. The forget the a f C.
Speaker 1: The NFC is stocked with a bunch of interesting teams
Speaker 1: right now, and as bad as their offensive line is,
Speaker 1: left tackle was by far the worst spot Reese Uhambo.
Speaker 1: They had fall basketball players there. I mean, for what
Speaker 1: it's worth. Pro Football Focus had him rated negative thirty
Speaker 1: eight in their rankings. That was by far and then
Speaker 1: the next closest, the next closest person negative thirty eight.
Speaker 1: The next closest player the seventies second worst tackle in
Speaker 1: the league was negative twenty two. So this guy was
Speaker 1: off the scale as the worst position player at any position.
Speaker 1: And old Dwayne Brown, who's a big winner in this
Speaker 1: everybody just gig. This is a theme all season with
Speaker 1: West out of the picture, I'm getting every single I mean,
Speaker 1: you were born before old. He's a tenure veteran. He's
Speaker 1: one of the best Texas of all time. He just
Speaker 1: make a clear round. We we sometimes comment on you
Speaker 1: being old. Sometimes this is more Greg has gotten into.
Speaker 1: It's a vocal tick lately, where or a conversational tick.
Speaker 1: Will you'll call someone old something or other, your pal.
Speaker 1: It's like my old down by the linguist over here.
Speaker 1: I know how. By the way, every time I hear
Speaker 1: Reese ode Ambo's name, I remember that day we all
Speaker 1: went out and you were singing Ali Jandro and every
Speaker 1: time I hear I'm always like Odiambombo, which turned into
Speaker 1: Johnny Johnny Gonza. Brown's gonna get Brown's gonna get paid.
Speaker 1: This was the whole point of him holding out. He
Speaker 1: wasn't getting paid in Houston. He's gonna get paid, I
Speaker 1: think in Seattle. And he should give just a little
Speaker 1: finder's fee to old Jaavian Clowney. They see what I
Speaker 1: did there. He's not even all he destroy You're noticing
Speaker 1: it every time you do it. He destroyed odi Onbo
Speaker 1: so badly in that game he almost wanted all by
Speaker 1: himself that I think the Seahawks felt panic that, like,
Speaker 1: we have to make a move right now, Rick Smith,
Speaker 1: we should mention got a ton for Dwayne Brown. I mean,
Speaker 1: he got more for Dwayne Brown than the Patriots got
Speaker 1: for Jimmy Garoppolo. He got a second fand who played
Speaker 1: one game the second fifth and uh, Jeremy Lane. Having
Speaker 1: issues at work, not happy with your employer, Skip seven
Speaker 1: or eight weeks and you'll come back and everything will
Speaker 1: be solved. It helps to be like a game changing talent,
Speaker 1: which is what Dwayne Brown can um. And to kind
Speaker 1: of put a bow on it. My my winning point
Speaker 1: of you guys kind of hit on it. But like
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's a big win of Russell Wilson's right shoulder.
Speaker 1: And you look at what happened with Andrew Luck. The
Speaker 1: Colts might have ruined Andrew Luck by not protecting him
Speaker 1: in his twenties now and we hope that's not the case.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not saying this is a long term fix,
Speaker 1: but now you have a true left tackle that can
Speaker 1: protect your franchise passer. And he's thirty two. He's old,
Speaker 1: but he's not old. Um has one more year on
Speaker 1: his deal. He's gonna be motivated, he's gonna get paid
Speaker 1: one more time, and you might have a solution there
Speaker 1: for five years of three or four or five years.
Speaker 1: So it's a I thought, it's a brilliant trade by
Speaker 1: the Seahawks and a nice hall for the Texans. Nice deal,
Speaker 1: a good deal. It's a little sign of the Texans
Speaker 1: that they're thinking about the future, that they know this
Speaker 1: team in a season without J. J. Watt maybe not
Speaker 1: a super Bowl team. Not saying they're giving up on
Speaker 1: the season, but it's a it's not a trade you
Speaker 1: normally see out of a team that's contending for the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And one more point that it is a little bit
Speaker 1: interesting to me that Dwayne Brown had become the voice
Speaker 1: of reason or the leader in what was going on
Speaker 1: with management or ownership, uh, involving the comments that McNair made,
Speaker 1: like they saying, we're deferring to what Dwayne Brown has
Speaker 1: to say on this issue and how we're handling this,
Speaker 1: and then Dwayne Brown get shipped out of town two
Speaker 1: days later. What's going on in Houston for the rest
Speaker 1: of the season. It's it's gonna be tricky in it
Speaker 1: does deserve context with that though that he was pretty
Speaker 1: vocal and the relationship between Drayne, Dwayne Brown and that
Speaker 1: front office was quite acrimonious going back to the summer,
Speaker 1: I would say, going back even to last year. So
Speaker 1: this was not a new thing where where Brown and
Speaker 1: the organization we're at odds um okay. That's that's our
Speaker 1: winners and losers of the trade deadline bonanza. Hey, sorry, sorry, Bills,
Speaker 1: try to make your big trade you know before the
Speaker 1: you know, on trade deadline day, you know you shipped Marcela. Sorry,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna get not not gonna get as much
Speaker 1: attention on Tuesday. One more loser by the way, Buffalo apparently, yeah, Buffalo,
Speaker 1: but one more loser the four Committee. As we seas
Speaker 1: multiple times we were going to fork some teams on
Speaker 1: today's show, well the losers, the four Committee because these
Speaker 1: insane trades. Uh, we had to move some things around
Speaker 1: on the show. We hope you understand, and perhaps we'll
Speaker 1: be back next Tuesday. We'll get around by Mas sixteen
Speaker 1: or so to getting rid of my dream of forking
Speaker 1: the fork? Were you behind these trades on some level
Speaker 1: like a regular don yee? Sure could work either way anyway,
Speaker 1: you know that sound means oh no, take's podcast earlier.
Speaker 1: We came back upstairs. Connie Fox not with us, but
Speaker 1: we need to talk one more big trade that went
Speaker 1: down right before the deadline, which was four pm Eastern
Speaker 1: Kelvin Benjamin heading to Buffalo traded to the Bills in
Speaker 1: exchange for a two thousand, eighteen third and seventh round pick.
Speaker 1: Rap Sheet reports the Panthers once upon a time drafted
Speaker 1: Benjamin uh in the first round, and he had really
Speaker 1: good rapport with Cam Newton. Almost immediately, Greg Rosenthal had
Speaker 1: an injury year, then a little bit of a down year,
Speaker 1: but this year it seemed like he was kind of
Speaker 1: back to being Kelvin Benjamin. And now the Panthers ship
Speaker 1: him to Buffalo. It's great trade for the Bills, but
Speaker 1: I'm asking questions, why, why, why? Why? I do not
Speaker 1: understand this trade, And I mean that literally. They have reasons,
Speaker 1: and you would assume it has to do with Kelvin
Speaker 1: Benjamin's future in Carolina and maybe things behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: but it's especially strange because they traded him to a GM.
Speaker 1: Brandon being in Buffalo, who knows Kelvin Benjamin well, who
Speaker 1: was in Carolina with them? And you said it, well,
Speaker 1: he's having his best season. I think he's better than
Speaker 1: he's ever been. And this is such an erratic offense,
Speaker 1: and then you just took away your best receiver from
Speaker 1: an erratic offense. Totally baffling trade. And I did see
Speaker 1: a tweet here a few minutes ago. Build Vat from
Speaker 1: Black and Blue Review ran into Marty Hernie, who is
Speaker 1: operating as their GM this season, and I guess he
Speaker 1: says two of the biggest reasons that this happened was
Speaker 1: to get more speed on the field and use a
Speaker 1: more varied skill set from their offensive players. But again
Speaker 1: that adds to what they're saying. So they're saying, like,
Speaker 1: we already have a big guy in Devin Funch, just
Speaker 1: we need to get faster. Well, where are these fast guys,
Speaker 1: because uh, McCaffrey is not a good running back, he's
Speaker 1: he's a useful guy in the receiving game. And Curtis
Speaker 1: Samuel who they drafted, has not stepped up, and Russell
Speaker 1: Shepard is kind of a journeyman, Like where are these guys?
Speaker 1: They're not a miss year's team. And then on the
Speaker 1: other side of talk winners and losers of this deal,
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor huge winner here. Again, It's so crazy what's
Speaker 1: happened and transpired with the Bills, And I hope this
Speaker 1: story keeps up of them as a success story this
Speaker 1: season because it's a nice story for the NFL and
Speaker 1: the idea that when they made that trade and got
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins out of town they brought in Jordan Matthews,
Speaker 1: it was still very clear that they needed something else.
Speaker 1: That Jordan Matthews is a useful slot type receiver, not
Speaker 1: a number one receiver. Whether you believe Kelvin Benjamin is
Speaker 1: or not is up for debate, but he certainly is
Speaker 1: a guy that can fill that role quality. It's like
Speaker 1: the Bills. If you if you're a Bills fan, we
Speaker 1: have a few in this building. They have been tough
Speaker 1: to deal with for so long, obviously the league longest.
Speaker 1: You're talking about, fine, just so you're talking about Patrick
Speaker 1: Crawley's personality, No, I'm talking about the way it makes
Speaker 1: it seem like you're talking about they've been difficult. Would
Speaker 1: No one could accuse the two of you of attempting
Speaker 1: to endlessly stir the pot. It has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with Patrick Crawley the Bills, though. How can you imagine,
Speaker 1: after all you've been through this fan base to see
Speaker 1: this team going for it. They have a Coach of
Speaker 1: the Year candidate and Sean McDermott, and this thing is
Speaker 1: coming together. I think there's a team that's gonna be
Speaker 1: very exciting down the stretch. I love this move for them,
Speaker 1: and they it's funny. They trade away Watkins and Darby
Speaker 1: to get some picks, and this is the type of
Speaker 1: thing you can do when you have extra picks, and yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to load up and take extra draft picks
Speaker 1: when it comes time but maybe you use it in
Speaker 1: a veteran trade. Usually that's in the off season. Luckily
Speaker 1: for fans there, I mean, we're the winners here, a
Speaker 1: nice little trade deadline and yes, um a couple more things.
Speaker 1: Thomas Davis longtime panther, um tweeted Bra with a sad face.
Speaker 1: Kawan Short tweeted someone slapping their forehead in disappointment and
Speaker 1: or disks us that emoji. I mean, if you're Davis, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're Thomas Davis, you're at the end of a
Speaker 1: fascinating career. You don't want to see the team dumping
Speaker 1: keep members of the office. I didn't think they could
Speaker 1: possibly put more on Cam Newton's plate to carry this team.
Speaker 1: They have no running game, pretty inconsistent receiver group. But
Speaker 1: they just did it. And now I'm thinking, how do
Speaker 1: you defend when Charles Clay's back. Bill's tough team to
Speaker 1: defend in the red zone, especially Benjamin Matthews, Clay McCoy.
Speaker 1: They're trying to end the longest playoff drought in American sports.
Speaker 1: Like they're going for it. Now, it's time to really
Speaker 1: take them pretty serious. You're a Patriots fan, the Bills
Speaker 1: creeping up there and that win loss callum pie scale,
Speaker 1: they're in the mix your peace bill, Where are you
Speaker 1: totally dry? No concerns whatsoever? Ten what a disaster. I
Speaker 1: need to get my underpants fixed. I need to get
Speaker 1: my pants to put him in the garbage. We need
Speaker 1: we need news the bill about the Bills. One wow,
Speaker 1: that is and what is unbelievable stupid, you know, in
Speaker 1: a weird one in a crazy world where like the
Speaker 1: Bills somehow won the division over the Patriots, which is possible.
Speaker 1: It's like I would still expect the Patriots to get
Speaker 1: further in the plant that is called fan base Hubris. Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely not Greg Hubris fan. It's just it. It bleeds
Speaker 1: Hubris from Patriots Nation. That's what you want to do,
Speaker 1: is it Pride comes before the fall something like that.
Speaker 1: That's correct, That's where we're at. What do you want?
Speaker 1: I mean, they won a super Bowl and exception on
Speaker 1: the last play, they want the super Bowl, the greatest
Speaker 1: come back every They don't need to do anything more.
Speaker 1: But not worried about three. And we'd be like, all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: but one's like that's thumbing your nose at society. Basically,
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. There's the trade deadline, winners
Speaker 1: and losers report. All right, let's do some news. What
Speaker 1: else is going on in the NFL? Alright, Zekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: suspend it again? Are you kidding? It's it's crazy that
Speaker 1: that's into the show? Um. Yes, the the six game
Speaker 1: suspension is once again in effect. This coming two weeks
Speaker 1: after a judge ruled, uh that this band would be
Speaker 1: quote temporarily restrained. Uh. And now a different judge, entirely
Speaker 1: different judge. This judge, Katherine Folia Folia Falia, keep on
Speaker 1: trying to change the pronunciation. The spelling of the name.
Speaker 1: Does not let me change it? Right f A I
Speaker 1: L l A. I don't know Kathy F Kathy f Anyway,
Speaker 1: she was on vacation, if you believe that. Um. So
Speaker 1: when she came back, she decided, Hey, by the way,
Speaker 1: now that I'm back from the coast, nice little holiday,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna deny the union's request for a preliminary injunction.
Speaker 1: And what does that mean? Suspensions back? Baby? So, as
Speaker 1: of right now, Zeke Elliott is going to be out
Speaker 1: from Sunday all the way until December. So that is
Speaker 1: huge news mark for the Dallas Cowboys and not good News.
Speaker 1: I wonder if the Redskins are a little annoyed with
Speaker 1: Kathy F's vacation because they could potentially not have had
Speaker 1: to deal with that Zikiel Eliott on Sunday. It's it's
Speaker 1: a complete game change. We just talked about the NFC
Speaker 1: playoff picture in the in the in the boon, it
Speaker 1: gets from Seattle getting the left tackle. There's an ebb
Speaker 1: and flow here because now the Cowboys cannot be taken
Speaker 1: nearly as seriously without their best player on the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I mean especially I can't. I can't concentrate with
Speaker 1: these tas this morning, Judge Cavy f with the Eagles
Speaker 1: bringing in J. J. I. E And they're bringing in
Speaker 1: reinforcements in the NFC East, and you see, uh all
Speaker 1: of the games that Ezekiel Elliott is going to miss.
Speaker 1: It's multiple division games, I believe I have to look
Speaker 1: at also have Kansas City this week, They're at Atlanta.
Speaker 1: You know these are not easy games. No all right,
Speaker 1: by the way, any other judge bits, No more judge bits,
Speaker 1: But I just do want to do a brief timeline
Speaker 1: of how crazy is is. I would love and I
Speaker 1: am not someone that's involved with the CBA bargaining. You
Speaker 1: might not believe this, but I have no connection to it.
Speaker 1: I would love for them all to work. Things would
Speaker 1: be like, hey, when the league decides something, um, let's
Speaker 1: all just be on the same page and just that's
Speaker 1: what it is. That's it. No no more appeals. It
Speaker 1: is what it is, and you take your punishment. I
Speaker 1: know that would never happen, but for football fans, this
Speaker 1: is exhausted, like three years in a row of the
Speaker 1: season being weighed down by endless courts, and for what
Speaker 1: it's worth, he's still trying to get another another long
Speaker 1: shot appeal, but it sounds like this truly is the
Speaker 1: end for the rest in peace and speedy trial. He
Speaker 1: was suspended six games. He appealed that suspension and that
Speaker 1: allowed him to play Week one while the appeals pending.
Speaker 1: As recently as like a few days before the season started,
Speaker 1: we thought he was suspending. I think when we previewed
Speaker 1: that game practically we were like, oh, yeah, Zeke's not playing.
Speaker 1: Then we then the suspension was blocked by a federal
Speaker 1: judge who found that Elliott did not get a fair hearing,
Speaker 1: and then the NFL appealed that injunction that injunction was
Speaker 1: vacated and that meant the suspension was back. And then
Speaker 1: a judge named Paul Karate a little karate bomb. He
Speaker 1: announced that the suspension couldnot actually be reinstated until Kathy
Speaker 1: F was back from vacation. Cathy F comes back from
Speaker 1: the Poconos and says the suspensions back on the most
Speaker 1: stunning aspect of all that someone's vacation. Why is Kathy
Speaker 1: F even allowed to take you to a massive uh
Speaker 1: you know, league shifting event hanging in the wings, you know,
Speaker 1: to take well, I mean, you know what you want
Speaker 1: to know why? The answer is as much as it
Speaker 1: seems like to us because we're so close to it.
Speaker 1: It's just freaking football. And she's like, excuse me, work
Speaker 1: life balance gonna take control. I gotta go back to
Speaker 1: the Poconos now. Anyway, So uh yeah, a plane and UM,
Speaker 1: I think it came out, Jason Garrett said, our guy
Speaker 1: right now, and attention fantasy heads out there, we're gonna ride.
Speaker 1: It appears with Alfred Morris. But you know, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: sleep on our other friends around the Cowboys. Um. Also
Speaker 1: one or more update this one? Uh really, oh my goodness.
Speaker 1: A terrible story, uh in Chicago with tight end Zach
Speaker 1: Miller who had that uh really horrific injury that he
Speaker 1: suffered in the end zone. UM dislocated his knee and
Speaker 1: it was one of those worst case scenarios with a
Speaker 1: knee injury where the I guess the artery is impacted.
Speaker 1: That that's the thing that I was like, what it was?
Speaker 1: This is um, this is what happens. That's always the
Speaker 1: fear when a dislocation is this nasty And the same
Speaker 1: thing was the fear with Teddy Bridgewater. He dodged that,
Speaker 1: but in this case, the artery was impacted, which led
Speaker 1: to a situation where there was a fear that he
Speaker 1: was going to lose the leg. We're talking about a
Speaker 1: guy losing a leg. But I mean, thankfully it looks
Speaker 1: like right now that after um a day of surgery,
Speaker 1: that they were able to do what needed to be done,
Speaker 1: uh to to restore hope that it won't be a
Speaker 1: situation where he loses the limb. We don't know for sure,
Speaker 1: but uh, I think it's it's sad to say, but
Speaker 1: it's probably safe to say. A thirty three years old
Speaker 1: Zach Miller's NFL career is over, but let's hope he
Speaker 1: can get back to health and be able to lead
Speaker 1: a normal life. Yikes, that's that's so. I mean, imagine
Speaker 1: being an NFL player like him and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden worrying whether or not you would be able
Speaker 1: to have your leg, let alone play again. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine losing a leg, being at being anybody
Speaker 1: losing a leg, but and just having performed at that
Speaker 1: level as an athlete and then not being able to
Speaker 1: walk thoughts in an instant too, I mean that you're
Speaker 1: going up to try to make an incredible catch, which
Speaker 1: he did make, and then in an instant later your
Speaker 1: your life has changed. And he is a guy, and
Speaker 1: it's not a guy that we've talked about a lot
Speaker 1: on this show over the years, but he's a great
Speaker 1: example of perseverance and like what the NFL can be.
Speaker 1: I mean, he is a guy that was a fifth
Speaker 1: round pick that I believe was on practice squads, didn't
Speaker 1: even really play until he's twenty five years old, but
Speaker 1: as stuck around in the league, ended up getting a
Speaker 1: pretty nice free agent contract I think for six million
Speaker 1: dollars that like, he's a very close friend of Marie
Speaker 1: Jones Drew who's on on our air as kind of
Speaker 1: a guy who like worked his way up, never really
Speaker 1: had any expectations, and had a really great career. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we obviously wish the best for Zach Miller as he
Speaker 1: works his way towards recovery. Uh, that's what's happening in
Speaker 1: the news. All right, Let's now move a little later
Speaker 1: in the show than usual. But this is a different
Speaker 1: show and we show different. They're all precious little what
Speaker 1: do they call it, flowers, snowflakes, snowflakes, But snowflakes has
Speaker 1: been like hijacked into I'm not gonna that's not gonna flyprint.
Speaker 1: Let's take it back, all right, we're taking back snowflake.
Speaker 1: It's hours again. The show is like the snowflake is
Speaker 1: what we're calling you. Every show is. Please put that
Speaker 1: as like the title for the show. All right, let's uh,
Speaker 1: let's check in with the Monday night game between the
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs and Denver Broncos. The quarterback Smith gets
Speaker 1: the shotgun throw downfield far side wide open, casey over
Speaker 1: the shoulder, cuts of the fill touchdown. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs got off the schneid second time,
Speaker 1: so that today not necessary. Um. The Chiefs got five
Speaker 1: field goals from Harrison, butker uh Marcus Peters returned a
Speaker 1: fumble forty five yards for a t D and yes, UM,
Speaker 1: the Travis Kelsey Show continued with another touchdown. He kills
Speaker 1: he kills the Broncos every time he plays them and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs one twenty nine to nineteen in casey uh
Speaker 1: in a game UH in which UM Trevor Simmey and
Speaker 1: Team trev greg look completely overmatched. And after the game,
Speaker 1: here's what Vance Joseph had to say when asked about
Speaker 1: his suddenly uncertain quarterback situation. But I'm gonna watch the
Speaker 1: film tonight in tomorrow, you know obviously, like I think
Speaker 1: most folks would do UM and see. But tonight, you know,
Speaker 1: with defense played UM winning football. In my opinion, our
Speaker 1: offensive line blocks we ran the ball for one sevent
Speaker 1: seven in the past row was better. But it all
Speaker 1: falls back to turn the ball over five times. That's
Speaker 1: that's insane. You know, you can't win turn the ball
Speaker 1: over five times, you know, and guys work too far
Speaker 1: along with coaches and players to uh have a big
Speaker 1: game and give it away five times his mind bottom.
Speaker 1: I love vance, Joseph, I love it. Honestly, we're talked
Speaker 1: about honest commentary from a coach, which is rare. I mean,
Speaker 1: right there, um, greg Um. Is it possible we're gonna
Speaker 1: see brock Osweiler starting the X Broncos game. I think
Speaker 1: it's possible. I think if Paxson Lynch was healthy, we
Speaker 1: would have seen him by now. Because the turnovers are
Speaker 1: everything in this game. The turnover by Jamal Charles and
Speaker 1: Isaiah Mackenzie actually ended up being even more costly than
Speaker 1: any of Simeon's interceptions, which a few of them were ghastly.
Speaker 1: Those had led directly to ten points. The Charles and
Speaker 1: the Mackenzie uh mistakes, so it was like, oh no,
Speaker 1: that's team TRAVI express no, I hate to see it.
Speaker 1: I think that collided heavily with something the body count.
Speaker 1: It's like they don't have enough body bags, and you
Speaker 1: know when it's a really bad tragic they didn't even
Speaker 1: have enough body bags. That's a situation we're dealing with
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Broncos defense morgue was overflowing. They had to
Speaker 1: convert the high school gymnasium into a makeshimp morgatorium. Is
Speaker 1: that what they call it? Moratorium? Though I mean moren't
Speaker 1: you are? I think at this point you have to
Speaker 1: create your own words. So des defense is being is
Speaker 1: being wasted on this team right now. It's it's a
Speaker 1: fascinating defense. Uh, it's a it's a deep, playoff level defense.
Speaker 1: Made Alex Smith look bad and they bottled up Kareem Hunt.
Speaker 1: Nobody's been able to do that. That's the thing. Benny
Speaker 1: Fowler dropped to touch that. You know, there was a
Speaker 1: lot of things that went wrong other than just sim
Speaker 1: know the sime and mistakes were awful, Like he dropped
Speaker 1: a touchdown. You kind of watched him and you thought
Speaker 1: the two offenses, if you took away the turnovers were
Speaker 1: kind of were a draw. But the Chiefs are not
Speaker 1: going to make that many mental mistakes, and they kind
Speaker 1: of just let Denver hand. This was the kind of
Speaker 1: game where I I've lost faith in Denver having any
Speaker 1: sort of playoff pushed you. You're you're gonna be three
Speaker 1: and six potentially the Eagles and Patriots next, and there's
Speaker 1: nothing happening on the hardest three game stretch possible in
Speaker 1: the NFL. To Kansas City, Philly, New England. I just
Speaker 1: say the play call that was the most Andy Reed
Speaker 1: play call to have the trick play with Tyree Hill
Speaker 1: where he just throws chucks the ball up for an
Speaker 1: interception like Tyreek Hill can do so many things like
Speaker 1: why not just have a regular play there? Why why
Speaker 1: do you have to get cute and do that like
Speaker 1: you got your Andy Reids. Same for your therapist, Colleen,
Speaker 1: this is my therapy right Um. They is kind of
Speaker 1: an annoying mess right now. I have to say, because
Speaker 1: if the Raiders think and the Broncos are like they're
Speaker 1: bad too, then you're putting a lot of eggs in
Speaker 1: the Chiefe basket. And I don't know if they have
Speaker 1: the steel And I think the Steelers are definitely, you know,
Speaker 1: a team to take serious. But I think the Eagles
Speaker 1: have have have it up there with the Steelers. But Greg,
Speaker 1: do you at least admit that Again, if someone's looking
Speaker 1: for something different than the Patriots to come out of
Speaker 1: the f C like losing both and it's becoming clear
Speaker 1: now both the Broncos and the Raiders are not for
Speaker 1: real this year. That kind of that adds a little interesting.
Speaker 1: There are limited they are limited options. But U I
Speaker 1: and I know you're sick of me saying this, but
Speaker 1: the two thousand and eleven Giants are terrible at mid season.
Speaker 1: The two thousand twelve Ravens are an embarrassment that lost
Speaker 1: forty three to seven fourteen. So sometimes things can turn around.
Speaker 1: Now at this point, yeah, the Steelers in the Chiefs
Speaker 1: look like the only two teams and that's kind of
Speaker 1: been what we thought going into the Season's but a
Speaker 1: little predictable that those three teams maybe not the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: but at least a few weeks into the season, they
Speaker 1: look like a super I don't think the Broncos are
Speaker 1: gonna make noises year. I think they have a bad
Speaker 1: quarterback situation. They're in the most disappointing division in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Based on what we thought months ago coming to this season,
Speaker 1: it is. It is, And there's a lot of primetime
Speaker 1: games featuring these four teams and only one of them
Speaker 1: is very washing. Could could an an f C South
Speaker 1: team get enough to go It's possible a little bit Houston.
Speaker 1: If Houston, I don't care what the record is. If
Speaker 1: Houston gets into the playoffs and gets a fair drawl
Speaker 1: early on, I could see them challenging any team in
Speaker 1: the a f C. Just lost another important defensive player
Speaker 1: to the Texan. They sustaining a lot of losses. There
Speaker 1: are three and four. I understand the record too. I
Speaker 1: just think that there's something kind of about them that
Speaker 1: they could play with anyone in a certain situation. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're so high after the Jimmy Garoppolo trade and what
Speaker 1: that meant, you know, for the Patriot Kingdom following, and
Speaker 1: now you're down again. I'm a little bit down again
Speaker 1: speaking of Garoppolo. We I don't wanna skip this because
Speaker 1: it's worth checking in on. Tom Brady had an interview
Speaker 1: with Jim Gray. Greg comes out of Mothballs in a
Speaker 1: big spot. Those two are pals. He has had a
Speaker 1: paid interview on Monday Night Football Radio I think for
Speaker 1: over a decade. I mean it's one of the grandest
Speaker 1: traditions in sports. And Gray also, you know, famously got
Speaker 1: the Lebron decision. Uh interview. You know I'm going to
Speaker 1: take back that mothballs dig the guy like him or not?
Speaker 1: Is that a nice career that Jimmy Gray? Sorry Jim um,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's check in on definitely out listening. He's like,
Speaker 1: all right, thanks a lot, Dan, uh colleague that at
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. What very nice guy. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: let's see what Tom Brady had to say about the
Speaker 1: Garoppolo trade. Tom, it's gonna be a lonely quarterback room.
Speaker 1: You're gonna meet with yourself on Wednesday. Jacoby Brissett has
Speaker 1: been traded to the Colts. Now, Garoppolo, who's your backup?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I'm not sure, you know, I'm sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the coaches will have that figured out here
Speaker 1: by by the time we practice. Have you spoken to Jimmy? Uh? No,
Speaker 1: I haven't. Tom. Uh sounds like you're surprised, like everybody else.
Speaker 1: You often say on this program. You're not the GM
Speaker 1: or the doctor. Are you surprised? Well, you know these
Speaker 1: this is the time of year where you know, we've
Speaker 1: been a part of a lot of you know, trades
Speaker 1: our team has over the years. And you know, again,
Speaker 1: as players, we try to show up to work every
Speaker 1: day doing the best we can do, and you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of other things take care of themselves, and
Speaker 1: you know, when when other teams want, you know, good players,
Speaker 1: whether it's coming to our team or leaving our team
Speaker 1: and then that those are the types of opportunities that
Speaker 1: present themselves. They come up so um. Like I said,
Speaker 1: Jimmy has been a great teammate and a great friend
Speaker 1: and uh and he always will be. And I want
Speaker 1: nothing but the very best for him. I know he
Speaker 1: sounds very dejected and down, but I think the last
Speaker 1: thing that Tom Brady wants to do on a national
Speaker 1: interview because he's all about preparations to be dealing with
Speaker 1: breaking news and responding to situations that he has no control.
Speaker 1: But he he said it that he spends more time
Speaker 1: with you know, Jimmy, a guy like Jimmy g Then
Speaker 1: in the season, then he spends with his wife and
Speaker 1: that that group him and Brissette. You gotta know Jacoby
Speaker 1: Brissette's name, by the way, jim greg come on starting
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league? Uh? Put just saying I think
Speaker 1: they were. You know, it's you're tight. You're tight with
Speaker 1: this guy and suddenly you're literally the only quarterback it's
Speaker 1: his friend. You're bummed out. Grey's had a nice career though.
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Speaker 1: unnecessary at best, feelings about yourself and your low self
Speaker 1: opinion does not have to be conflated with I've got
Speaker 1: the highest self opinion in this room where Yeah, I
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Speaker 1: how to use tools. I can change the tire if
Speaker 1: I have to. I could pop a log nut if
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Speaker 1: You've never Why would I have picks? Uh? No, I
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Speaker 1: I'm looking up drills right now, Husky Husky brand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: good job. But like a listener just fast forwarded for
Speaker 1: like eighteen minutes in them and it's still being before
Speaker 1: we get to the Thursday night football preview. Um, I
Speaker 1: just want to say, um, there is some breaking news,
Speaker 1: um out of ses manner, and why don't you set
Speaker 1: it up for as mark what it has gone on
Speaker 1: in your backyard the last couple of days. Well, if
Speaker 1: I sounded a little flaky during the Monday night football
Speaker 1: recap because I missed much of the contest, yes I can.
Speaker 1: I really did not have my facts together. I missed
Speaker 1: much of the contest because a neighbor stopped by to
Speaker 1: point out that through the fence that separates our home,
Speaker 1: her dog was going nuts because and then she came around,
Speaker 1: they could hear a little animal whining and crying. And
Speaker 1: this was behind stationed behind a big shed that I
Speaker 1: could barely even fit my arm around. But I went
Speaker 1: to the backyard with the neighbor and what we discovered,
Speaker 1: and if you're on the video of show, you can
Speaker 1: see it was a little, tiny, tiny kitten, smaller than
Speaker 1: even half my hand, that was stuck under the shed.
Speaker 1: And so we spent the next thirty minutes I don't
Speaker 1: know how long it was trying to with with bowls
Speaker 1: of milk and water and little sticks to try to
Speaker 1: rescue this cat to come out and on the cat
Speaker 1: in this that is actually my wife's simone feeding it
Speaker 1: because I think it was probably going nuts this morning
Speaker 1: after it had slept in the It's not well, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that off the air. There were your hands.
Speaker 1: I was not holding that cat, maybe as someone else was,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't okay. So anyways, the point being the
Speaker 1: cat now, the cat now is like we're hoping that
Speaker 1: the mom comes back, but it will not. It's not
Speaker 1: not suddenly with the hands of Bill Lambier. I don't
Speaker 1: know the pictures that you have of this kitten like
Speaker 1: make it look like this ferocious. I know it was
Speaker 1: freaking out. It was really freaking out. And honestly, when
Speaker 1: I picked it up, I didn't know if it was
Speaker 1: if it was a cat. I thought it seemed like
Speaker 1: it looked like, yeah this, you were out there, you know,
Speaker 1: saving the cat while the jimmydre when the Jimmy gre
Speaker 1: trade happened. And your response, after a few backs back
Speaker 1: and forth where you were getting increasingly annoyed about the Browns,
Speaker 1: was I just saved the tiny kitten trapped in your yard.
Speaker 1: Don't care about Brown's narratives anymore. And and again, hey,
Speaker 1: cats come back to us a little bit. You know,
Speaker 1: you know who wouldn't leave behind their baby. A dog,
Speaker 1: a female dog would come back and make sure um
Speaker 1: the puppy was okay. That's an indictment of the entire cat.
Speaker 1: That's a lot of rob But we don't know what's
Speaker 1: happened to the mother. Do you know what's going on
Speaker 1: in the mom's life right now, Dan, unless she has
Speaker 1: passed away on the side of a road. Total a
Speaker 1: lot of ravill magnifico on cats, and I'm not afraid
Speaker 1: to say that I'll take on the entire cat. I'm
Speaker 1: not a cat person at all. I in fact, I
Speaker 1: don't trust cats, and I typically don't trust, uh at
Speaker 1: least some cat owners. But this cat was made me
Speaker 1: feel a little bit differently. Have you named it yet? No,
Speaker 1: we were thinking that. We were thinking actually Christian Christian,
Speaker 1: our producer Dan and Marco and after Big Cat in
Speaker 1: a big way. He was suggesting, I think you suggested
Speaker 1: the same last night, that maybe the listeners could offer
Speaker 1: a name or adopt it. Right, Yeah, because I'm also
Speaker 1: deeply allergic to cats, so it's not going to be
Speaker 1: staying at my house long term. I'm definitely going to
Speaker 1: bring home a cat. Well. I love cats going mad.
Speaker 1: What was the hey, Christian, what was the hash act
Speaker 1: that you had thought of? Kind of liked it. The
Speaker 1: hashtag that you had thought of for naming this cat,
Speaker 1: I think he said, a t N cat. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: good hashtag? A t N cat. Um, if you can
Speaker 1: offer up some cat names? Uh? And I don't know,
Speaker 1: Mark you could. I'll leave it up to you if
Speaker 1: you want to maybe open up the possibility of an
Speaker 1: adoption scenario if you live in the Los Angeles area,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I would say I'm not good,
Speaker 1: like send it FedEx. No, I'm not going to shift
Speaker 1: the cat to like, you know, Surrey England or something,
Speaker 1: but I'd be fine if it's someone wants to come
Speaker 1: to sort of those like flat rate envelopes. I can't
Speaker 1: believe you found a black hat cat on Halloween in
Speaker 1: your yard. It's a little concerning. I want you to
Speaker 1: send a cat to England for nine thousand dollars. We
Speaker 1: had the budget for that. That would send you way
Speaker 1: up the human decency scale. So I think I'm already
Speaker 1: up there. I saved an animal in need. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: there you go. So there's cat gate at Sessler Manor.
Speaker 1: Hit us up at a t N catt, Just a
Speaker 1: t N cat. It's alright, time for Shoulders of Greatness,
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Speaker 1: your time on the show. All right now. Thursday Night
Speaker 1: Football Bills against Yes Bills one of the best stories
Speaker 1: in the NFL this season five and two. I sent
Speaker 1: a tweet out by the way yesterday asking what would
Speaker 1: happen in the parking lots um outside New Era Stadium
Speaker 1: in Orchard Park if the Bills were actually good, Like
Speaker 1: they've been insane for years now and they've been terrible.
Speaker 1: They're just people gonna start lighting each other on fire.
Speaker 1: I think they get they're good, They'll get it will
Speaker 1: start going like like what is like caligia, just like
Speaker 1: it will become just like this, like some of that
Speaker 1: would be illegal, but heaven activity at the next level.
Speaker 1: We're pretty it's pretty close right now, or can go
Speaker 1: in the other direction, and it could be and everybody
Speaker 1: will just get really bookish. And sit down with their
Speaker 1: thermis and have a sip of coffee and have a
Speaker 1: nice sandwich and then walk in nicely. Who knows will
Speaker 1: be exciting shots fire against the mall. Oh that one hit, Greg,
Speaker 1: it's processing it and I don't know if that's a shot. Um.
Speaker 1: It certainly is a shot. It's definitely not accurate. I
Speaker 1: think it's the Bills are five and two. Everybody is
Speaker 1: high on the Bills. They are maybe the the wild card,
Speaker 1: uh wild card team in the a f C if
Speaker 1: you want to get excited about a sleeper in January.
Speaker 1: But they got to get there first, and to do that,
Speaker 1: they gotta win games like this against the Jet team. Uh.
Speaker 1: That has been tough against everyone they've played. But if
Speaker 1: you start to look at what's going on now, they're
Speaker 1: starting to now regrets to back to kind of where
Speaker 1: you thought they would, which is losing almost every week.
Speaker 1: They're in a three game losing streak, Greg Um, And
Speaker 1: once again they have not been able to close games
Speaker 1: that just have been a quality team for three quarters
Speaker 1: and then it all falls apart. They've been outscored incredibly
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, which I think falls on the
Speaker 1: coaching staff more than anything else in the quarterback and
Speaker 1: the quarters count in the fourth quarter is exactly what
Speaker 1: you thought the worst of Josh McCown could be. But
Speaker 1: game management like that, maybe that's one reason why he
Speaker 1: wasn't a starter for a long time. He doesn't play
Speaker 1: like a veteran, that's fair. So anyway, the Jets can't
Speaker 1: close out of game the Bills. If you want us
Speaker 1: to really take you seriously, don't go to the meadow
Speaker 1: ends at Thursday night and lose win the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've heard some bad rumors about what this color rush
Speaker 1: game matchup is gonna look like. This is the one
Speaker 1: that caused a lot of problems for me a few
Speaker 1: years ago in terms of my color blind and the
Speaker 1: other people out there that are afflicted with this terrible disease.
Speaker 1: But this is a game that the Bill should roll.
Speaker 1: I think the Bills are a good team, and I
Speaker 1: think the Jets, you're right, are kind of coming back
Speaker 1: to Earth and you're just handing the a FC East
Speaker 1: over to the Patriots. I don't know that the Bills,
Speaker 1: if they win this game, are gonna be tied for
Speaker 1: the second best record in the entire NFL. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you have the Saints, Chiefs and Patriots over the next month.
Speaker 1: If you're Buffalo, so you can't you can't fall here.
Speaker 1: You gotta take care of business here and you maintain
Speaker 1: that record. The key to me, I mean Buffalo. I
Speaker 1: like that they are not asking Tyrod Taylor to save
Speaker 1: the world of finally running the ball again. And all
Speaker 1: year long they have won the turnover battle. They don't
Speaker 1: make critical dumb errors for the most part. And the
Speaker 1: one thing though the Jets, if they've done anything well
Speaker 1: on defense, is they have I believe in five of
Speaker 1: the last six games they've had multiple turnovers. They are
Speaker 1: getting takeaways, they have they have hung with teams through
Speaker 1: that and so you cannot make those mistakes against Buffalo.
Speaker 1: To hang with them in this game, you gotta take
Speaker 1: the ball away from the bill. A major problem for
Speaker 1: the Jets defense. I don't as of right now, I
Speaker 1: don't think Mo Wilkerson is gonna play. And in the
Speaker 1: first um five weeks of the season or six weeks
Speaker 1: in the season, that wouldn't have been a big deal
Speaker 1: because he wasn't making an impact. But he has looked
Speaker 1: like the old in the past two weeks. But he
Speaker 1: has I think toe shoulder ankle injuries and on a
Speaker 1: short week. And this is again why if you want
Speaker 1: to argue against the idea of Thursday night football existing,
Speaker 1: it's probably not gonna play because they played five days ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and we'll see when the Jets are on offense
Speaker 1: if the Bill's secondary, which has been so good, really
Speaker 1: the difference whether they get back a couple of starters
Speaker 1: and whether they let trade Avious White, the rookie who's
Speaker 1: just been so fantastic travel with Robbie Anderson, who I
Speaker 1: think now kind of deserves that sort of attention. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's so sudden, he's got great hands, he can get deep.
Speaker 1: This is a team in Buffalo that really they pride
Speaker 1: themselves on not giving up big plays. They're gonna make
Speaker 1: you earn it and go down the field slowly. I
Speaker 1: don't know if the Jets are that team. I'm I'm starting.
Speaker 1: I know the turnover Martin feels a little flukey, but
Speaker 1: it can be flukey for a whole season. Like that's
Speaker 1: this season's m O for this team, and I think
Speaker 1: they can keep it rolling. This an easy If you
Speaker 1: are Rex Ryan, you do not turn on the television
Speaker 1: in this game because the Jets are doing something this
Speaker 1: season that that they look more organized than Rex Ryan
Speaker 1: had them in the latter years of Rex Ryan. And you,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he is, but you're a Bill. The Bills
Speaker 1: team is basically Bills are about, we're gonna ship away
Speaker 1: every player that Rex Ryan hung the franchise on. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get better. He's a loser in the trade deadline too,
Speaker 1: because they trade away Darius, they trade away you know,
Speaker 1: Ragland early in the year, they trade away Darby. It's like,
Speaker 1: here's your best players. We're gonna win without them, all right,
Speaker 1: you know, to go after Rex it's over in a
Speaker 1: room together, Doug Welly and it's just as much a
Speaker 1: guy getting st on with that stuff. But Robby Ederson, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had his first one hundred yard game. He put
Speaker 1: a move on Desmond truffont Um that I think somebody
Speaker 1: on Twitter said it was Keenan Allen like his ability.
Speaker 1: He has quick feet and he has that streak. He
Speaker 1: has significant maturity issues. I really worry about him right
Speaker 1: now in terms of whether he's a guy that great
Speaker 1: hands control. But he has great hands, he's quick, he's fast,
Speaker 1: he's a playmaker. He was making plays last year he
Speaker 1: was he was. I remember having a chat with Daniel
Speaker 1: Jeremiah last year around this time and he was like,
Speaker 1: how did the Eagles because he went to Temple Robby Edderson,
Speaker 1: How did the Eagles who had no wide receivers this
Speaker 1: time last year not see this guy? Not have him
Speaker 1: on their radar? The Jets got him as an undrafted
Speaker 1: free agent and um or a late round pick, I
Speaker 1: can't remember. But anyway, Robby Anderson has turned into the
Speaker 1: jets best playmaker this season. UM anyway, so a little fun.
Speaker 1: It's it's basically now the Jets. The NFL schedule makers,
Speaker 1: they gotta they want to give New York team one
Speaker 1: primetime game, so they just throw the Bills and Jets
Speaker 1: on Thursday night once a year, and that's where we
Speaker 1: are for the third strade, well, an NFL and network
Speaker 1: only game. So I don't know if we get Romo.
Speaker 1: I think we still might have Romo for one more.
Speaker 1: Give me Romo at least, come on, it's the only
Speaker 1: chance I got him as a Jets span this year.
Speaker 1: I think like the first half m v P. By
Speaker 1: the way, NFL dot Com slash, you know, he is
Speaker 1: the man that's dominated the first half of this season
Speaker 1: Tony Romo, Sam Swanson, It's been a tough season. Mark
Speaker 1: not convinced. No, I think Tony Romo has been in
Speaker 1: utter surprise in the greatest possible way. But it's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, the bandwagon is massive, and so there were
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