Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has a questionable lock of
Speaker 1: the Week records. Welcome back to another edition of the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast, presented by Head and Shoulders. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan Hanss and I'm joined by room filled
Speaker 1: with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Lastling two days in a
Speaker 1: row and Greg Rosa. What's up, boys, that's progress less?
Speaker 1: Just like Oh Daddy Wesser at a mimosa at Harry Hands.
Speaker 1: This is one of your birthday party. I just took wild,
Speaker 1: just took slings and arrows from our producer for having
Speaker 1: a mimosa and my my first day back from drinking
Speaker 1: in six months. She stripped you of your man card
Speaker 1: about eight seconds before the show. It's gone shocking lack
Speaker 1: of empathy what West West had to say, Like, do
Speaker 1: I have to pull the C card here? I first drink,
Speaker 1: let me get into it and and city and Lindsay's all, oh, listen,
Speaker 1: you know where I come from. Everybody drinks Bud heavy
Speaker 1: and that's the only man drink is. It's like that
Speaker 1: right captured the spirit of it. This is the Week
Speaker 1: ten recap show, Sunday Night recap show, often imitated, never duplicated.
Speaker 1: Um so many games to get to in uh week ten,
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what I'm excited. I'm officially excited
Speaker 1: now about as we're starting to peek forward, you know,
Speaker 1: peek ahead, look at you know. Mike for in Cecia
Speaker 1: used to say the season doesn't start till after Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: which you probably stole from Parcels, I'm guessing. But as
Speaker 1: we head closer to Thanksgiving, the NFC, in particular, the
Speaker 1: four teams in first place are combined twenty nine and seven.
Speaker 1: The Eagles are eight and one, the Vikings, Saints and
Speaker 1: Rams all seven and two. That is a nice saucy
Speaker 1: conference that you can get behind. The a f C
Speaker 1: still mess west, but the NFC is gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of fun as we go down the stretch in
Speaker 1: the season. I am really crossing my fingers and hoping
Speaker 1: for a Saints Eagles matchup in the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 1: I think that will be a heck of a game.
Speaker 1: And these teams played each other a ton and we'll
Speaker 1: be talking about it. And the Rams played those three teams,
Speaker 1: I believe in a row. There three out of four
Speaker 1: weeks they play the Vikings and the Eagles and the Saints,
Speaker 1: and there's some Seahawks Eagles mixed in there, a lot
Speaker 1: of good games. So we're gonna get to all those teams.
Speaker 1: And actually, why not, why don't we start with one
Speaker 1: of those teams, and we'll start with one of the
Speaker 1: teams that West wants an NFC title game. The new
Speaker 1: old in Saints Breeze and the shotgun? Do you really
Speaker 1: want to throw it? He looks to his left, now
Speaker 1: to his right, comes back over the middle, rolls to
Speaker 1: his left, staying alive the way to the side, and
Speaker 1: it's good to be breezed to the pilon and end. Oh.
Speaker 1: Jim Henderson w w L chuckling him to himself because
Speaker 1: in a game which Drew Brees did not even throw
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass, the Saint's nearly putting up a fifty burger.
Speaker 1: The Saints set of franchise record six rushing touchdowns, including
Speaker 1: that one from Drew Brees. Uh Mark Ingram had three,
Speaker 1: which was a career high a forty seven to ten
Speaker 1: dismantling of the Buffalo Bills and Orchard Park whoa West,
Speaker 1: The Saints nearly put up a fifty burger. As I said,
Speaker 1: Drew Brees doesn't have to carry the show because they
Speaker 1: are a well balanced unit, and that defense forget about it. Well,
Speaker 1: I said on Thursday's show, this was a lopsided matchup,
Speaker 1: and it was a comprehensive evisceration the likes of which
Speaker 1: I don't know I've seen all year, and maybe only
Speaker 1: a handful times in all of the football games I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. When you when you always
Speaker 1: go and watch this game, you will see the Saints
Speaker 1: join whatever they want to do on offense, marching up
Speaker 1: and down the field with long, extended drives, imposing their
Speaker 1: will on a defense that allowed three hundred rushing yards.
Speaker 1: I mean, we saw Buffalo get gashed by the Jets
Speaker 1: on the ground, and it was like, oh, it's the
Speaker 1: Jets and it was Thursday night, so it's an aberration,
Speaker 1: and let's find out what happens to Buffalo. Something's wrong,
Speaker 1: po smart cell Darius trade because what happened today was
Speaker 1: twice as bad. There was one play I saw earlier
Speaker 1: trying to track this thing, a fourth and one play
Speaker 1: where they went for at the Saints Hannah to Ingram,
Speaker 1: he blasts down to about the five yard lane, and
Speaker 1: you knew the game was over because they just simply
Speaker 1: overpowered Buffalo and the death. That's bad. It's a bad look.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure Marcel Darius is enjoying himself watching how
Speaker 1: badly they've they've struggled since he left. But it can't
Speaker 1: be all with Darius just leaving the picture. No, it's
Speaker 1: not all. I mean, it's just in general, like it's
Speaker 1: that thing and and it was right when Greg everyone
Speaker 1: got sucked into. The Bills is finally being a playoff
Speaker 1: type team this year and now, And not to take
Speaker 1: anything away from the Saints, but the Bills just haven't
Speaker 1: showed up in two weeks and they played the best
Speaker 1: running team in the league. So it's a combination of things.
Speaker 1: So yet they haven't showed up and they have to
Speaker 1: feel terrible about themselves in terms of how the last
Speaker 1: two weeks have gone. But they also had the worst
Speaker 1: matchup possible today and they're playing a running team who
Speaker 1: has been about as good as at running as as
Speaker 1: we've seen a team be in the last few years.
Speaker 1: This was at reckoning the Bills all season. Hey been
Speaker 1: well coached, overachievers with a shallow roster, and there's still
Speaker 1: that I wanna I want to get after Bills fans
Speaker 1: a little bit for cheering so loudly when they finally
Speaker 1: when they brought a Nathan Peterman in garbage time taking
Speaker 1: out Tyrod Taylor. I know Tyrode Taylor didn't have a
Speaker 1: good game or anything, but a little too a little
Speaker 1: too happy about that. They've been through a lot, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've been through. Because I picked the Bills, I was
Speaker 1: going to keep my lock streak alive, and I stand
Speaker 1: by the logic. But now now it looks a lot worse,
Speaker 1: obviously because the Saints now look as good as anybody
Speaker 1: in the league period. This was going on the road
Speaker 1: in November against the team that plays well at home,
Speaker 1: that's had a really nice season, and then, like West says,
Speaker 1: embarrasses them in humiliating fashion, like WHOA, I'll just deal
Speaker 1: with you. Were attempting to tie my impressive lock streak
Speaker 1: ended last season, and we had a lock off, and
Speaker 1: I used my sort of Sessler analytics style to look
Speaker 1: at this game and say, I'm very comfortable taking the
Speaker 1: road team here, and it was hand. It came out well,
Speaker 1: and so I'm not going to gloat, but a nice
Speaker 1: run by you, Dan, and now it's time to start over.
Speaker 1: And try to get back to tie my streak again.
Speaker 1: I know this is going to pain you, it's humbling,
Speaker 1: but I'll take first place in the overall standings and
Speaker 1: all time standings home with me tonight. Those are fair
Speaker 1: concession prizes. I think you have to consider the Saints
Speaker 1: Super Bowl contenders because of that formula you mentioned, going
Speaker 1: on the road in cold weather outside of that friendly
Speaker 1: dome that they've taken advantage of so much. But the
Speaker 1: best team to the Sean Payton era have been the
Speaker 1: teams that had a power runner like Deuce McAllister teamed
Speaker 1: with that scat back, and Alvin Kamara is more than
Speaker 1: a scat Yeah, he is shedding tacklers the likes of
Speaker 1: which you don't see from a passing down back. He
Speaker 1: might be He's back in the Rookie of the Year
Speaker 1: mixed because of the Shawn Watson's injury, because the Leonard
Speaker 1: four Nett hasn't really been showing up late. Hunt has
Speaker 1: hit a slump, right he he is in at mix
Speaker 1: and I want to see this Saints defense play against
Speaker 1: a really good offense. But we'll see that down the stretch.
Speaker 1: They got the Rams in a couple of weeks one
Speaker 1: last thing. Camara and Ingram are now on pace for
Speaker 1: almost three thousand yards combined. That is incredible, and I
Speaker 1: do want to give credit to Dan. I think it
Speaker 1: was very humble as you mentioned to mention that you're
Speaker 1: leading in the overall records and the season. After accepting
Speaker 1: the loss, thank you, thank you very much. Also that
Speaker 1: you're in last place, dead last. We give it up.
Speaker 1: This seems like a weird point for this, but I'll
Speaker 1: take it anyway. Thank you. I take issue with that
Speaker 1: bit of production right there. Let's move on checking out
Speaker 1: another one of those NFC superpowers shotguns single back right,
Speaker 1: subtle play, fake afflicking to the right, flat catch and
Speaker 1: eight feeling makes a block. It springs free Charious right
Speaker 1: who plunges in for a touchdown. Paul Allen k f
Speaker 1: XC and with the call and Thensota Vikings keep role
Speaker 1: in case. Keena threw four touchdown passes, each to a
Speaker 1: different receiver, and the Vikings went on the road to
Speaker 1: beat the Redskins thirty thirty, their fifth consecutive win. Uh
Speaker 1: Keenan here also through two second half interceptions that gave
Speaker 1: the Redskins life of Minnesota. They made that early lead
Speaker 1: stand up and my first takeaway from the game, gentleman,
Speaker 1: if this team can put together you know, thirty Burgers
Speaker 1: putting up twenty five plus points a game with that defense,
Speaker 1: just as the Saints are team that you also, whoa,
Speaker 1: this is like a super Bowl level team potentially the
Speaker 1: Vikings that their offense really starts clicking forget about it
Speaker 1: well and throw the Rams in there like it just
Speaker 1: backs our point up that the NFC suddenly hasn't in
Speaker 1: some cases, new faces, new teams, new Yeah, they're all balanced.
Speaker 1: I mean a complaint in this room was like, how
Speaker 1: you know these teams aren't the same every week? That's
Speaker 1: just kind of like a big middle of the NFL.
Speaker 1: And that's true for a lot of the NFL, but
Speaker 1: it's actually been kind of a stat dere where in
Speaker 1: the NFC. Now where four of these teams are on pace,
Speaker 1: it's gonna take twelve thirteen wins to get a bye. Well,
Speaker 1: I think you have to give Rick Spielman a lot
Speaker 1: of credit for how deep and well rounded this roster is.
Speaker 1: They lose their starting quarterback Sam Bradford, who had played
Speaker 1: as well as he ever did in the opener. They
Speaker 1: lose a Rookie of the Year type of player and
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook. They lose Stefon Diggs, who had been one
Speaker 1: of the hottest receivers in the league in September. They
Speaker 1: lose him for almost a month, and they're rolling, and
Speaker 1: they get case Keenum for one year and two million
Speaker 1: dollars and he's He's channeled two thousand fifteen Ryan Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: as a guy who is playing to the level of
Speaker 1: his surrounding talent and actually not just being a game
Speaker 1: manager but making plays too well. To that point, also,
Speaker 1: does it does it scare you at all if you're
Speaker 1: if you're getting into the Vikings as a true contender
Speaker 1: in this league that, like Ryan Fitzpatrick, there was always
Speaker 1: this fear that at any moment, the guy can go
Speaker 1: back to being what he had been for most of
Speaker 1: his career. I would say, if I'm the Vikings fan,
Speaker 1: that's my fear. But then you do have to Eddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater also waiting in the wings, so they have almost
Speaker 1: even if Keenham goes bad, you have this other guy
Speaker 1: who's also a question mark, and he made his first
Speaker 1: has made his return to uh the league today. I
Speaker 1: think it was four forty two days Teddy Bridgewater went
Speaker 1: between active appearances in the NFL, and after the national
Speaker 1: anthem was played, they showed him on the sideline wiping
Speaker 1: tears away from his face. Are really in a season
Speaker 1: that's been marked by injuries and losing star players and
Speaker 1: all these terrible things happening to have a guy that
Speaker 1: made it back from a serious injury. Here's what Bridgewater
Speaker 1: had to say after the game. Being able to stand
Speaker 1: next to those guys on the sideline for the national anthem,
Speaker 1: it's just it all boiled up. I kind of screamed
Speaker 1: a little on the sideline after I said my prayerent
Speaker 1: ends on. I screamed a little. Now when I got
Speaker 1: on the sideline, I was like, man, it's really about
Speaker 1: to happen. But like I said today, it was a
Speaker 1: great moment for my life, my personal life, but it
Speaker 1: was even a better moment for his team. The god there.
Speaker 1: We competed and and after the game, Adam Feeling sent
Speaker 1: out a tweet, you know, love this man. He's an
Speaker 1: inspiration to many, including me talking about Teddy Bridgewater. And
Speaker 1: in case Keenum, you know, retweets that and says this
Speaker 1: on top of it, and you get a feeling just
Speaker 1: because I think and we saw case Keenum in har
Speaker 1: Knocks and got a feel for who he is as
Speaker 1: a guy, and you definitely get a great feel of
Speaker 1: who Teddy Bridgewater is as a guy that this is
Speaker 1: working like that this could be a weird situation almost
Speaker 1: and everyone loves Teddy Bridgewater, but I think like everyone
Speaker 1: there is, there's such good people that it's working. And
Speaker 1: like they're they've been a good offensive team this season.
Speaker 1: It's not all defense. I like how they're they're talking
Speaker 1: during the game. Oh, Adam Feeling is now a star.
Speaker 1: I mean we have been tracking Adam Feeling dating back
Speaker 1: to late last season and he does this no matter
Speaker 1: who the quarterback is every week. And he's an incredibly tough,
Speaker 1: physical guy that rests the ball away from defenders. He
Speaker 1: had catches the day of thirty eight and seventeen yards.
Speaker 1: He does it every week. So whether it's keen Um,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a Bokeenum that you know that
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna turn midnight and the offense is gonna
Speaker 1: fall apart. There are some reliable things around him, and
Speaker 1: they have depth at that position if nothing else, and
Speaker 1: quarterbacks quarterbacks develop Case Keenum's he's kind of I feel
Speaker 1: like he is what he is at this point, but
Speaker 1: he's having a really nice season and feeling this is
Speaker 1: a monster game. Like he's been an impact player for them,
Speaker 1: but these this is the type of production that really
Speaker 1: will put him on the map for a wider range
Speaker 1: of people. So the Vikings moved to seven and two.
Speaker 1: Let's check in a big NFC battle Prescott, Oh, Claiborne
Speaker 1: got a hand on it loose ball and Atlanta has
Speaker 1: recovered and Clayborn knocked it loose that if that is
Speaker 1: stated an official sack, that will be six. Wow, what
Speaker 1: a day. Yes, indeed, Westernham w z G. What the call,
Speaker 1: Adrian Claiborne said, a Falcon's record with six sacks West
Speaker 1: He put an Xcel clown suit on backup Cowboys left
Speaker 1: tackle Chaz Green than anyone else who's got in his
Speaker 1: way as the Falcons cruised to a seven win over
Speaker 1: the Cowboys, who saw their three game winning streaks snapped.
Speaker 1: Chris We'll get to the Falcons in a second, but
Speaker 1: let's start with Dallas, who looked positively hopeless with Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith and Zeke Elliott out of the lineup, and they
Speaker 1: lose Seawan lead to a hamstring injury. So you find
Speaker 1: out in this game what is the value of an
Speaker 1: All Pro player? They lose three All pros and the
Speaker 1: whole offensive attack was stymied. Adrian Claiborne had six sacks.
Speaker 1: He has not He's only one time in seven years
Speaker 1: of his career had more than that in a season,
Speaker 1: an entire season. Chads Green started at left tackle and
Speaker 1: at one point Troy Aitman said, this is about as
Speaker 1: bad of a beating as I've ever seen any any
Speaker 1: player take on a on the field. Chads Green got
Speaker 1: benched at guard and their running game didn't take off
Speaker 1: until Jonathan Cooper replaced him about a month ago. So
Speaker 1: you see in the first half, without Elliott they have
Speaker 1: no running game, and without Tyrone Smith they have no
Speaker 1: pass protection. Dak Prescott has seen how the other half
Speaker 1: lives and Hadrian Claiborne after the game, he's like him.
Speaker 1: He even said, you know, I don't know what the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly he said, I mean, yeah, he said,
Speaker 1: I'm not exactly a uh, you know, a situational pass
Speaker 1: rusher here. That's not normally my game. Iean, you look
Speaker 1: at Adrian Claiborn. He's been through some really devastating injuries.
Speaker 1: He's he's a big guy. He's not a guy you
Speaker 1: you normally expect to see like bending the edge. But
Speaker 1: the thing is they brought in a backup to take
Speaker 1: over for Green late in the game, and he got
Speaker 1: two more sacks. I don't know, he's just he is
Speaker 1: not built like Jadeveon Clowney or something like that. So
Speaker 1: seeing this, but on some of these players, it was
Speaker 1: like almost like it was let him not being mean
Speaker 1: to the guy. You know, can you trust the guy
Speaker 1: named Chas at left tackle? Probably not so it's probably
Speaker 1: Dallas's first mistake. But on some of those sacks, he
Speaker 1: didn't even get a hand on the guy. Well, you
Speaker 1: might want to give him help too, I mean, when
Speaker 1: you kill him to get a chip block or two.
Speaker 1: And did they do anything different in the second half though,
Speaker 1: to adjust blocking scheme to get something else to help him.
Speaker 1: I noticed no Witten was involved a little bit. Um
Speaker 1: I saw once things got out of hand, But I
Speaker 1: mean when they put up the white flag and take
Speaker 1: Chad's Green out of the game and then you're putting
Speaker 1: in essentially it was the third string left tackle, I
Speaker 1: mean just a really grim effort. And then on the
Speaker 1: falcon side West, what were your takeaways? They look like
Speaker 1: the Falcons. Uh. Do they lose Devonte Freeman early Uh
Speaker 1: to what looked like a concussion and Kevin culmanated one
Speaker 1: of his best games of the year. I thought Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan looked good, but I think Matt Ryan has looked
Speaker 1: good all season. Thank you. It's good to have someone
Speaker 1: else supported. I mean, if you're watching the games, Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan is having a fine season. Well, I'm watching the
Speaker 1: games too, and I don't. I think he's missing throws
Speaker 1: and the numbers back it up. He doesn't have He's
Speaker 1: not having the same year. Well that's because you see
Speaker 1: Olio Jones miss an easy touchdown. You'll see they just
Speaker 1: miss on a couple of plays by inches. He's he's
Speaker 1: still the same quarterback he's always been. Their offense really
Speaker 1: should get credit, even though the numbers aren't crazy. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's seven three late in the middle of the third,
Speaker 1: in the middle of the quarter, and they go nine
Speaker 1: plays for a touchdown, then eleven place for a touchdown
Speaker 1: that takes up half the third quarter, and then another
Speaker 1: long drive for a field goal that that Cowboys only
Speaker 1: had the ball once over that span, and the Falcons
Speaker 1: put up seventeen points holding the ball, And that's kind
Speaker 1: of what they are. They're not getting big plays, that's
Speaker 1: the biggest difference. They were a big play offense last year.
Speaker 1: They are not getting big plays this year. But they
Speaker 1: are moving the ball well and today they finished their drive.
Speaker 1: That's on the coordinator who's taking a lot of uh
Speaker 1: I guess criticism for specific play calls. But to me,
Speaker 1: the biggest thing is guys who need space like Taylor Gabriel.
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan knew how to give him that space and
Speaker 1: Sarkisian has not. Adrian Clayborne six I think only four
Speaker 1: six players in NFL history have done that before him.
Speaker 1: Adrian Clayborn is now in that group. Let's move on
Speaker 1: to an a f C matchup. Canaday with a snap
Speaker 1: Barry with a hold to decide this football game, hopefully
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's favorite good snap ball down kick on its way.
Speaker 1: The boss comes from and the Pittsburg Steelers come from
Speaker 1: a big hole and win a very important game and
Speaker 1: come back from an apparent Yeah he'll he'll grow back
Speaker 1: he Uh wait, so did Chris Boswell, take the bos
Speaker 1: from Brian Bosworth. I don't think he can call a
Speaker 1: kicker the boss. No, of course not. Well, it's it's
Speaker 1: been labeled on him. Did he actually label himself that
Speaker 1: it's I'm gonna assume yes, that he is all on board.
Speaker 1: Because you nickname yourself doesn't mean everyone does. Ben Roethlisberger's
Speaker 1: thirty two yard completion D'Antonio Brown with less than a
Speaker 1: minute to play set up that thirty three yard game
Speaker 1: winning field goal from the Boss as time expired, the
Speaker 1: Steelers escape with a seventeen win uh in Indianapolis against
Speaker 1: the Colts. Greg The Steelers woke up just in time
Speaker 1: to avoid an embarrassing setback. Yeah, you never know what
Speaker 1: to think in games like this where the Steelers clearly sleepwalk,
Speaker 1: and they've done this time and time again. I think
Speaker 1: they were seven and fourteen on the road against Sub
Speaker 1: five in the last four years or five years under
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin and they and they probably should have lost
Speaker 1: this one. And the game turns on a Jack Doyle
Speaker 1: drop that's you know, intercepted inside the ten yard line
Speaker 1: that Ryan Shazier makes a great diving play, and then
Speaker 1: they get it going and you want to just kill
Speaker 1: the Steelers. But then again, at some point, it's second
Speaker 1: in seventeen with one left in the game, and they're
Speaker 1: by no means is this game just automatic? Steelers are
Speaker 1: gonna win it at that point, and Ben Roethlisberger makes
Speaker 1: three great plays in a row, to Bell to to
Speaker 1: Brown to Bryant, and you know, I don't know, you
Speaker 1: deserve credit for that. You deserve credit for making your
Speaker 1: best players of the game when it when it's you
Speaker 1: can have credit. They can have all the credit they want.
Speaker 1: But they played an awful defense today. And the one
Speaker 1: thing I would say is because downstairs we all got
Speaker 1: into a little bit about this whole Steelers thing, and
Speaker 1: I know, Greg, you think very highly of them. I
Speaker 1: think you should in in an in an a f
Speaker 1: C that is an absolute and total abomination. They're probably
Speaker 1: ticketed for the a f C title game, but they
Speaker 1: are not. Even if if you just put the league
Speaker 1: across the way, I don't see Pittsburgh the equal of
Speaker 1: some of these NFC teams. They're not even They're not
Speaker 1: as consistent, but at their best, I think they can
Speaker 1: be any team. And that to me that the Conferences, Yes,
Speaker 1: NFC is way deeper. But you know that Patriots long
Speaker 1: if we waited for the Steelers to go at their
Speaker 1: best two or three in a row in January winning,
Speaker 1: but we saw two games in a row and their
Speaker 1: two biggest games of the year when they absolutely steamrolled
Speaker 1: the best competition they played. You gotta give a little
Speaker 1: credit to the colt who absolutely dominated two opponents in
Speaker 1: the NFL the last two weeks. They showed up, had
Speaker 1: a good effort for thirty minutes, it wasn't enough and
Speaker 1: the better team wins. Well. I think one of the
Speaker 1: hallmarks of the Toma era is that they sleepwalk on
Speaker 1: the road against inferior and then the next week they
Speaker 1: go and dismantle one of the best teams in the league.
Speaker 1: That's that's what they've been doing for a year. It's
Speaker 1: a good sign to me that Smith Schuster, I think
Speaker 1: is here for good. Martavis Bryant's return was if he
Speaker 1: at best interception on a ball thrown to him a
Speaker 1: big loss in yardage. But I think Smith Schuster really
Speaker 1: adds I can play, you can play. Every week he's
Speaker 1: in the middle of something and offense has been up
Speaker 1: and down. Smith Schuster has been a guy that's been
Speaker 1: making plays almost every week for the three yards ship
Speaker 1: become from becoming the first Steelers rookie ever to have
Speaker 1: back to back one yard receiving games. Is there any
Speaker 1: concern about Levi on Bell once again? Twenty six carries
Speaker 1: today used in the past game as well. Do we
Speaker 1: just say role I didn't see the game. I've had
Speaker 1: no concerns with him. It hasn't slowed down. I mean,
Speaker 1: he hasn't slowed down. You do, James Connor at this point,
Speaker 1: you know, you just haven't seen many running backs have
Speaker 1: that many carries and hold up. I do feel for
Speaker 1: Colts fans, by the way, because there are Colts fans.
Speaker 1: It is their season, I know, but we never talked,
Speaker 1: never talked about them. They feel like they're pretty under
Speaker 1: the radar. Their season has been excruciating if you're a
Speaker 1: Colts fan. They have blown so many fourth quarters, like
Speaker 1: they could very easily be six and four this year
Speaker 1: as bad as their roster is, and really they don't
Speaker 1: deserve it, like they have blown these fourth quarter leads
Speaker 1: like it's nobody's business. You act like we overlook the Colts.
Speaker 1: We've gotten exclusives with their general manager. What's your favorite
Speaker 1: type of frog full frock. Let's move on no huddle
Speaker 1: golf back to pass represents straight down the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. He's got a man, no one, We'll catch
Speaker 1: hip Robert Woods within ninety four yard touchdown from Jared
Speaker 1: Goff and the Rams ex get their lead on the Texans,
Speaker 1: another NFC superpower. Jared Goff through uh for a career
Speaker 1: high in yardage, went over three hundred yards, three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: and the Rams defense made life hell for an overmatch
Speaker 1: Tom Savage a thirty to seven win over the Texans
Speaker 1: at the Colosseum. Uh. You know this could have been
Speaker 1: Jard Goff against the Shaun Watson a lot of fun,
Speaker 1: maybe a shootout instead, we got this anyway, this game
Speaker 1: changed on that ninety four yard touchdown connection from goth
Speaker 1: to Robert Woods, who is unquestionably the most productive former
Speaker 1: Bills wide receiver in l A mark. The seven and
Speaker 1: two Rams can overwhelm you in an almost sneaky way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: This this game, I would say that it boosted my
Speaker 1: trust of the Rams in a big way because for
Speaker 1: two plus quarters they looked like Jeff Fisher had stolen
Speaker 1: into the building and was calling offense because they really
Speaker 1: were asleep. And in the Texans defense with Jadeveon Clowney especially,
Speaker 1: were fantastically on all you could ask them to do.
Speaker 1: They did. But two things happened. A the Rams have
Speaker 1: an ability and we've seen it week after week to
Speaker 1: explode for spurts of time where it's not just yardage,
Speaker 1: it's points, and that happened with the with the nineties
Speaker 1: seven yard connection to Woods, and then they just take
Speaker 1: They're also taking advantage. Their defense is also quality obviously.
Speaker 1: And Tom Savage and if we needed any more proof,
Speaker 1: give me a break. Two picks, two lost fumbles. He
Speaker 1: had a pick six called back, He nearly had another
Speaker 1: pick six, and saw another past that he threw deep
Speaker 1: that should have been picked off as well. W t F.
Speaker 1: Give me a break with Tom Savage. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that soundtrop okay. He The team is absolutely they're held
Speaker 1: back in a way that very few quarterback backup quarterbacks
Speaker 1: could even hope to do. Their teams. He got, he
Speaker 1: got first team reps last week. T J. I think
Speaker 1: you could see you're gonna see t J. Yates because
Speaker 1: it's not It's one thing if you're you're Tom Savage
Speaker 1: and you cannot extend the play like Deshaun Watson and
Speaker 1: you cannot see the field like tone, Well, they're not
Speaker 1: much of a line, and on top of it, you're
Speaker 1: turning the ball over like a waterfall, and so it's like,
Speaker 1: it's just it's too much. If you just watched the
Speaker 1: first half of this game, though it's a close game
Speaker 1: and Tom Savage is kind of picking the Rams apart
Speaker 1: in the middle of the field, the first half looked
Speaker 1: like like again like Jeff Fisher. It looked like last
Speaker 1: year's Rams. It was depressing and you thought, hmm, have
Speaker 1: they figured out some way to neutralize this offense? But
Speaker 1: it just you have to hold him down for four quite.
Speaker 1: I don't think t J. Yates is an improvement on
Speaker 1: Tom Savage, even though everything Tom Savage does is right.
Speaker 1: This is this is the where the Kaepernick argument as
Speaker 1: its strong case right here, just because this was a
Speaker 1: team that was sort of in the mix and you
Speaker 1: never know, did you have a shot in the army.
Speaker 1: Granted Tom seven start a week one, so he likes
Speaker 1: Tom Savage, but you also saw Bill O'Brien get so
Speaker 1: frustrated when Savage doesn't see a blitz coming, which is
Speaker 1: right in his face like that's the one that the
Speaker 1: quarterback has to pick up, and and Bill O'Brien just
Speaker 1: loses his mind afterwards, screaming about it, like how can
Speaker 1: you not see that? But his mind just isn't there.
Speaker 1: Um four game winning streak. They actually scored thirty three
Speaker 1: points today. Four game winning streak. Now for the Rams,
Speaker 1: who have now outscored their opponents during that streak. One
Speaker 1: one thing. Let's say though, you got now we're gonna
Speaker 1: find out who the Rams. That's pretty good, right, all
Speaker 1: that is all? That is all. That's pretty shiny. It
Speaker 1: can't get any better. You've got the Vikings and the Saints.
Speaker 1: Then you get I guess you want to call it
Speaker 1: maybe somewhat of a week off against the Cardinals before
Speaker 1: dealing with the Eagles. You basically are dealing that's a there,
Speaker 1: there's a super Bowl run. Let's who are They are
Speaker 1: playing the four best teams in the NFC in a
Speaker 1: span of five weeks, which is wild. Another wild statu
Speaker 1: from this game, this is the first win by the
Speaker 1: Rams at the Coliseum other than an opening week wind.
Speaker 1: They came back seven and two. Team they haven't even
Speaker 1: been in there for like a month. That's what happens
Speaker 1: when you play in USC stadium. Let us move on.
Speaker 1: Brad gets it down. Lambo picked it off and it
Speaker 1: is good. He didn't hit it very well. It barely
Speaker 1: got over, but it is good. Lambo was good from
Speaker 1: thirty yards away. And the Jaguars haven't beaten the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Charger. That ever, big field Frank Frends wild come
Speaker 1: back to us. It was deflected w ch j k
Speaker 1: L with the call, Josh Lambo kicked that thirty yard
Speaker 1: field goal three twelve remaining in overtime. The Jaguars win
Speaker 1: over the Los Angeles Chargers in one of the I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it's silliest games of the year the last
Speaker 1: it greg. This game was a roller coaster. It was
Speaker 1: like one of those final destination movies. They were like
Speaker 1: screws coming up, rattling, free bodies flying all over the place.
Speaker 1: And when you have that type of game and the
Speaker 1: Chargers are involved, they're one of the dead bodies at
Speaker 1: the end of it. Than they were like you thought
Speaker 1: they were done, like finding painful ways to lose, but
Speaker 1: blocking a field goal that goes in after Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: throws an interception in overtime after you somehow lost the
Speaker 1: game in which you had the lead at the end
Speaker 1: of regulation and Blake Bortles through two interceptions in the
Speaker 1: final two minutes of regulation, and yet you lost. Like
Speaker 1: that's if you think about it. I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's probably ever happened in NFL history. We would have
Speaker 1: to look that up. That a quarterback who's losing two
Speaker 1: interceptions at the end, and it was like a Blake
Speaker 1: Bortles meltdown of epic proportions after he played three really
Speaker 1: strong quarters. He couldn't not have been worse in the
Speaker 1: fourth course, throwing some balloons and and they still found
Speaker 1: a way through conservative play calling and uh untimely turnovers
Speaker 1: between rivers and in their running back Eckler, who just
Speaker 1: fumbled at the very worst time. It was a bad
Speaker 1: fumble too, and I you know, I think, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the fumble rule and a lot of the rules with
Speaker 1: the NFL annoy me. The pylon rule, which we'll get
Speaker 1: to a little bit later. But I thought that was
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Someone's gotta explained to me that play. So
Speaker 1: Eckler fumbles it, who scoops it up? I don't remember,
Speaker 1: but it's it's scooped up and by a Jaguars player.
Speaker 1: There is no evidence from all the angles at CBS
Speaker 1: shows that he was touched. The ball seems like it's
Speaker 1: squirted out from the pile. He jumped up quickly scored
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. They come back with a review that
Speaker 1: he was down by contact, and then I gut wish.
Speaker 1: What annoyed me the most is the official then says
Speaker 1: that he was touched down by an opponent. It's like,
Speaker 1: if you really believe that that's what happened, you should
Speaker 1: tell the audience at home which player you think touched
Speaker 1: this guy? Because nobody else saw it, and we never
Speaker 1: saw it. We never saw a good view New York,
Speaker 1: New York thought they saw it. That's a big play,
Speaker 1: too open, right, because Borders after that ends up throwing
Speaker 1: in an interception when they're in field goal range. And
Speaker 1: then Anthony Lynn gets too conservative, doesn't let Rivers even
Speaker 1: throw a pass there, although I guess you could argue
Speaker 1: what Rivers did in overtime where he just throws one
Speaker 1: up just because it's kind of like a yolo play.
Speaker 1: It's just like, Wow, I don't want to tie the game.
Speaker 1: Let's just throw it up, he gets a We all
Speaker 1: love Philip Rivers, but I mean, he looked like he's
Speaker 1: about seventy nine years old on that and he's always
Speaker 1: had an unorthodox delivery. But that was one of the
Speaker 1: uglier throws you're gonna see this season. I don't know
Speaker 1: why if you're I mean, we know who Doug Brone
Speaker 1: is and how they've won some of the games they've won.
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles has thrown the ball eighty nine times over
Speaker 1: the past two weeks. I just I don't see that
Speaker 1: game script, that strategy really lasting for Jackson. They really
Speaker 1: wanted to work that stretching the fourth quarter. It felt
Speaker 1: part was he went two for twelve with the two
Speaker 1: picks and then they got They got when they got
Speaker 1: down to the goal line. It was on a bunch
Speaker 1: of pass interference calls. I still don't think this Bortals
Speaker 1: thing is gonna work. Yeah, they're a fascinating team. They
Speaker 1: are because we've known all along this is one of
Speaker 1: the best past defenses we've seen this century. And the
Speaker 1: run defense with Marcelli Marcel Darius is getting much stronger.
Speaker 1: He had a good game today. They're running attack is
Speaker 1: deep and talented, where they can pull guys like Yelden
Speaker 1: who was inactive earlier the year, and he plays pretty well.
Speaker 1: Corey Grant comes in and bust off long run quite often.
Speaker 1: But then you have a quarterback. It's it's weird because
Speaker 1: you see all the comparisons to great defenses with bad quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if we you might have to
Speaker 1: go back to the seventy four Steelers to find a
Speaker 1: great defense with a quarterback that is mistake prone and
Speaker 1: it's prone to you know, brain farts like the end
Speaker 1: of this game. But he had played two really too,
Speaker 1: really solid Bortles games and three really solid quarters. And
Speaker 1: the thing that was fascinating to me about this game
Speaker 1: is they only started moving the ball when they let
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles throw Their only offensive touchdown drive literally didn't
Speaker 1: include a run. It was eleven straight passes. Leonard Fournette
Speaker 1: went seventeen for thirty three and was benched because he
Speaker 1: wasn't that effective for most of the fourth quarter in
Speaker 1: overtime because they preferred to have yelled at an ivory
Speaker 1: on the field. Melvin Gordon was essentially benched during the
Speaker 1: key parts of this game because Austin Ekeler was out
Speaker 1: playing him like it was. It was a very strange game.
Speaker 1: But I don't think the Jaguars have much of a
Speaker 1: future if they're running game is stuck with four NET
Speaker 1: like they have. It's a concern that they can't run
Speaker 1: the ball against the Chargers. That's a concern. It's yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, he it's been a bad eight days for him.
Speaker 1: You're you're not part of the game plan last week
Speaker 1: because of you know, klutzy all field behavior, and then
Speaker 1: you don't show up today. But Leonard Fournette, I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about him as a player, talking about it's a
Speaker 1: team running attack and they haven't been able to run
Speaker 1: the ball the last couple of weeks the way that
Speaker 1: they would want to, whether it's for Nett or whoever.
Speaker 1: And they literally set the franchise record in yards for
Speaker 1: two in a two games stretch in the two games
Speaker 1: that for net was gone, which is weird. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's in their head. I think it's
Speaker 1: a coincidence. It's the opponents, but it's still weird. I
Speaker 1: think defenses are probably selling out to stop the rock,
Speaker 1: so Bortles is gonna have to make them pay, and
Speaker 1: they had They had a hundred and forty plus yards
Speaker 1: every week dating back to week two. Well today that
Speaker 1: was boosted. They had a punt punt, a fake punt
Speaker 1: got them seven points, which was fifties six yards. Like
Speaker 1: the defense set up other points. My last thing is
Speaker 1: we've talked about their defense so much. Their defense did
Speaker 1: make the winning plays when it came down to a
Speaker 1: J booy Malik Jackson with the Forest phone of the interception,
Speaker 1: Like that's what great defense and they're fun to watch
Speaker 1: on defense. Um, did you guys see the going back
Speaker 1: to the Steelers game, that Juju Smith Schuster Levy on
Speaker 1: Bell touchdown celebration. You remember that, Um, physically and then mentally,
Speaker 1: I get in their mind, UM, get on today's skame.
Speaker 1: He was talking. He wasn't taking shots at wives or
Speaker 1: kids or anything like that, but he went after the
Speaker 1: man's name. And now they're doing touchdown celebrations where they're
Speaker 1: mocking the A J. Green uh choking thing and leave
Speaker 1: bell on A J. Green said when they said, what
Speaker 1: do you think A J will think about that celebration?
Speaker 1: I don't know, guess we'll see. I mean it's the
Speaker 1: Steelers and Bengals anything they can any excuse they can
Speaker 1: find to take each other down. Those teams do not
Speaker 1: like headline on ESPN dot com right, J. Green did
Speaker 1: find today on that raverry is a history of one
Speaker 1: team taking the other down and the other one not responding. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the top headline at ESPN dot com when we went
Speaker 1: up to tape this podcast tonight, Steelers mock Green chokehold
Speaker 1: to celebrate t d Jalen Ramsey took away this man's spirit.
Speaker 1: Something to watch. This might be he might just walk away.
Speaker 1: I mean, he put up five for one, fifteen in
Speaker 1: the touch and he's headed to the Hall of Fames.
Speaker 1: He's pretty quiet. He had a big seven yard touchdown.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, let's move on. He's done. After the
Speaker 1: firing to Murray at the three Murray died, Titans, Demark
Speaker 1: may make the tax three touchdowns on the day for
Speaker 1: DeMarco Hay that Titans take the lead with thirty six
Speaker 1: ticks to Mike Keith w g f X with the call.
Speaker 1: The Tituns continue to find ways to win. Marcus Mariota
Speaker 1: orchestrated at twelve place seventy three yard drive that ended
Speaker 1: with a touchdown pass yes to DeMarco Murray. That was
Speaker 1: the difference win over the Bengals in Nashville. Greg for
Speaker 1: the second straight week, yea boy, Mariota let his team
Speaker 1: on an important touchdown drive. Oh he's the number one
Speaker 1: quarterback and all my dreams, Well this was he was
Speaker 1: West's boy. Yeah, contin Jameis Winston over here. Well, because
Speaker 1: you've been out West, maybe this was out of respect
Speaker 1: for you. He like pushed Mario because Jameis Winston has
Speaker 1: been having a bad year. He's trying to steal your Marda.
Speaker 1: He adopted my child. I that's what I judge. What
Speaker 1: I see and what I see as a guy who,
Speaker 1: for the second straight week, got the ball in a
Speaker 1: situation where it's like, hey, you gotta score a touchdown
Speaker 1: right now. He did it against the Ravens, and they
Speaker 1: did it in this Bengals game, in a game that
Speaker 1: should never have been so close. They had the ball
Speaker 1: for more than forty minutes. In a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: I think the Titans should feel good about this game.
Speaker 1: The running game looked a little better. They scored a
Speaker 1: great five minute touchdown drive when they absolutely needed to.
Speaker 1: I mean, Murray really did a nice job on that
Speaker 1: touchdown or else it would have been fourth and goal
Speaker 1: in this game would have been going to overtime. But
Speaker 1: they blew a couple of big plays where they dropped
Speaker 1: a touchdown, another one was fumbled out of the end zone.
Speaker 1: Mariota had one terrible interception, and it was way closer
Speaker 1: than it needed to be. I mean, I'm I am
Speaker 1: trying to detect at any point that we've done this
Speaker 1: show a team riding a four game win streak that
Speaker 1: excites me less than the type. Yeah, that's fair. They've
Speaker 1: been lucky. This is the game that probably they've looked
Speaker 1: the best, and even that they made, they had too
Speaker 1: many self inflicted wounds for much of it. For it
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been nearly as close as it was. The
Speaker 1: most shocking fun fact to the days Vante's perfect got
Speaker 1: got kicked out of the game. Say it was the
Speaker 1: first objection of his career. I would have probably bet
Speaker 1: my life savings, which isn't that much. It's very meager.
Speaker 1: In fact, I don't have life savings, but if I did,
Speaker 1: I would be like, oh, he's been probably ejected fourteen times,
Speaker 1: but honestly easily three times. I would have been question
Speaker 1: three times it doesn't count when he ejected himself and
Speaker 1: ran straight into the locker room if they intercepted. And
Speaker 1: he's been suspended multiple time and in this case he
Speaker 1: was fired up. It was a pretty touch call that
Speaker 1: he got screwed penalized, and then it was even it
Speaker 1: was very touched on, you know, contacting the official and
Speaker 1: getting thrown out that one. You understand the penalty. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you turn yourself into a sheet wall as you
Speaker 1: can't be surprised when they throw you out of the game.
Speaker 1: That's that's how it works. Let's move on, Stafford out
Speaker 1: of the gun, Let's come. Stafford's gotta get rid of it.
Speaker 1: Rose Deep got out the touch staff the lines, Stafford
Speaker 1: laid it up. Eric called it in twenty nine yards
Speaker 1: and the Lions for back on top. Ann Miller w
Speaker 1: j R. What they called Matthew Stafford connected on that
Speaker 1: tiebreaking touchdown to Eric Ebron early in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: of the line survived the scare from the Browns a
Speaker 1: thirty eight to win at Ford Field, Mark Sessler. Cleveland
Speaker 1: actually had seen lead in this game in the second
Speaker 1: half before the Wheels came off. How did Detroit take control, Well,
Speaker 1: they scored the game's final twenty one points. And I
Speaker 1: mean Cleveland's defense, which has had streaks, has quarters here
Speaker 1: and there where they looked more than competent this time around.
Speaker 1: It's just that the I think the floor fell out
Speaker 1: at the end, and in Matthew Stafford, the guy that
Speaker 1: we saw on Monday Night football, started to make those
Speaker 1: plays in the final seventeen eighteen minutes of this game. Cleveland,
Speaker 1: I thought they got the best performance they've had all
Speaker 1: season from Kaiser uh It's that's not saying much. He's
Speaker 1: had some disastrous starts, but they ran for over two
Speaker 1: hundred yards and took advantage of Detroit's defense. Detroit though,
Speaker 1: like they're the kind of team that you can't count
Speaker 1: on them even though they're playing a bad team to
Speaker 1: come in and wipe them out. And they this was
Speaker 1: they kind of got their act together late and it
Speaker 1: was it was scared is a good way to put it.
Speaker 1: What they do they play in the fourth quarter. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's their move. They're gonna use it. Kenny Gallady, by
Speaker 1: the way, had a you have to go watch this
Speaker 1: catch he made along the sidewine before he went about
Speaker 1: fifty yards total. It is the bit one of the
Speaker 1: best catches I've seen in years, which is not surprising
Speaker 1: from him, but Golden Tate, who was basically big to
Speaker 1: have him back to game back in about five it
Speaker 1: did help, although you wouldn't see the passing game from
Speaker 1: what we saw against Green Bay to today it was.
Speaker 1: It was not happening until it happened in spurts late.
Speaker 1: Now I feel bad because if you're gonna say one
Speaker 1: of the best catches you've seen in years, Maurice Harris
Speaker 1: had one of the most tremendous catches, maybe the catch
Speaker 1: of the season, I thought. In Washington today off the
Speaker 1: practice squad made an O. B J type catch West.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna say, Oh, I've declared war onlines fans.
Speaker 1: They're already there. They were already on my radar for
Speaker 1: the way in which they command respect for mediocrity. Oh,
Speaker 1: the outrage of not giving my mediocre team not credit.
Speaker 1: But when I called Golden Tate a poor man's Percy
Speaker 1: Harvin apparent apparently that just Tomate. This made them to
Speaker 1: no end. Percy Harvin, who is on a totally different
Speaker 1: level talent wise, power, speed, agility than Golden Tate, not
Speaker 1: even in the same class of athlete Percy Harvin, who
Speaker 1: was once traded for a first round pick and two
Speaker 1: more picks and the team had to make him the
Speaker 1: fifth highest paid receiver in the NFL. Give me a
Speaker 1: break that Golden Tate would ever be traded for that.
Speaker 1: Also three years ago, I sat in this podcast for
Speaker 1: hours and debated against Greg about how good Golden Tate was,
Speaker 1: and then he was one of the most underrated players
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So Lions fans quit being Homer's this
Speaker 1: is impressive by Wes, And I'll tell you why. West
Speaker 1: is the one that made the Percy Harvin uh comparison.
Speaker 1: And then you walked right into his trap, and then
Speaker 1: you came to him and said that's not fair. Golden
Speaker 1: Tate's better. And then West comes on the air Sunday
Speaker 1: and just buries you. I would question anyone's eye for
Speaker 1: football if you think Golden Taint is as talented as
Speaker 1: Percy Harll. I I know that West is starting to
Speaker 1: feel good and he's starting to feel back. And the
Speaker 1: minute I really knew it is when I checked on
Speaker 1: Twitter Saturday night and I thought, what the hell is happening?
Speaker 1: There is twenty seven different things I am mentioned on
Speaker 1: in a debate between West and the Lions fans about
Speaker 1: Percy Harvon that included him challenging people to go back
Speaker 1: and watch the tape, including West going back and actually
Speaker 1: walked in the tape to confirm it and him burying
Speaker 1: all twenty seven watched what has Happened to My feed?
Speaker 1: I watched all eight of Percy Harvin's two thousand twelve
Speaker 1: games the other night, and he was an absolute phenomen
Speaker 1: Don't don't give me this Golden Tate rubbing before before
Speaker 1: we move on from this game. The lines are kind
Speaker 1: of a good example of how crazy deep the NFC is.
Speaker 1: Ten teams are at least five and four better. So
Speaker 1: if you're if you're the Redskins, for instance, who lost
Speaker 1: this week to go war and five, you're you're at
Speaker 1: number eleven. I mean you that that four and five
Speaker 1: in the NFC feels very different from the a f C.
Speaker 1: It's like the Lions and teams that are five and four,
Speaker 1: they have a lot of work to do, even though
Speaker 1: they have a winning record. Uh. Coming up next for
Speaker 1: the lines, By the way, if you have an easy
Speaker 1: schedule of the at Chicago home to Minnesota at Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Uh so I gotta win two of those, you'd think,
Speaker 1: let's move on shotgun formulation. Fitzpatrick takes us out pressure
Speaker 1: coming about called ball touchdowns, have a touchdown, Charles Simms,
Speaker 1: nobody pricked him off the flincher Fitzpatrick hetty pulled the
Speaker 1: trigger and the Bucks fired the proper's way and fire
Speaker 1: the carriage tire him. Jean Decker off w x TB
Speaker 1: with the call yes. Ryan Fitzpatrick through that game, icing
Speaker 1: touchdown past the Charles sim Simms and limited his mistakes
Speaker 1: as the Bucks and after five game losing streak with
Speaker 1: a ten win over my Jets, Josh McCown uh and
Speaker 1: the New York offense listless from the first possession until
Speaker 1: garb time, telling less than two hundred yards of total offense.
Speaker 1: I warned you, Subreddit, you gotta give them the prices
Speaker 1: right losing horn and then he certainly don't lock up
Speaker 1: the Jets on the road, especially when there's a lot
Speaker 1: of evidence out there to say the Jets are maybe okay.
Speaker 1: They This is always I don't care who you take
Speaker 1: out of the locked up the Jets subredit sub over there,
Speaker 1: Greg's right that tweet, like how do you know what
Speaker 1: I was talking about part of the internet that you
Speaker 1: have never visited? Apparently, No, I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's good. I don't think it's good to have like
Speaker 1: an echo chamber. You don't want to read your own
Speaker 1: what people are saying about you. Alright, A fascinating look
Speaker 1: into Greg soul. They're anyway. Thank you to all the
Speaker 1: fans that support us on the subreddit. Yeah. So the
Speaker 1: Jets were always vulnerable in this game, because if you
Speaker 1: watched them this season, this was always possible. But it's
Speaker 1: still a terrible loss that removes uh any any hope.
Speaker 1: I think have at four and six. They have to
Speaker 1: win a lot of games to close the season, and
Speaker 1: dropping a game that was winnable on paper, it's just
Speaker 1: there's no coming back. Now they're forked. They had to
Speaker 1: win this game. I was saying they could get back
Speaker 1: to five and five and in the a f C
Speaker 1: that you were just talking about anything that happened. But
Speaker 1: now it's over. I think I would. I think the
Speaker 1: interesting part is reading bands recap of this game, at
Speaker 1: what point in the season do they pull the plug
Speaker 1: on the cown and look at one of the younger guys.
Speaker 1: And at that point, I think the Jets are going
Speaker 1: to find out how bad those younger guys are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they're an interesting position because obviously four and
Speaker 1: six and they're probably heading towards ten or eleven losses.
Speaker 1: You would think, um, especially if they put in these kids.
Speaker 1: But and there's no sense putting in a thirty keeping
Speaker 1: a thirty eight year old in when you're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: But I also you don't get the feeling and and
Speaker 1: following this team that they really think either of those
Speaker 1: guys is the Yeah, well don't that's disrespectful to the
Speaker 1: rest of the team. Just like if if those guys
Speaker 1: aren't the guys and they're not going to be the future,
Speaker 1: just try to win the games accounts. But I know
Speaker 1: it wasn't good today, And this shows that they're capable
Speaker 1: of anything in a negative sense because this they played
Speaker 1: the most lifeless, worst defense, worst team in the league. Really,
Speaker 1: over the last month they didn't do anything. But unless
Speaker 1: this happens for a month straight, if you're getting the
Speaker 1: Josh McCown you stopper eight or nine weeks, you gotta
Speaker 1: keep mins. Well, you gotta watch this game because this
Speaker 1: was kind of like it was a game. We get
Speaker 1: two journeyman quarterbacks, guys that have been on a hundred teams,
Speaker 1: and McCown looked like the guy that's when he's been
Speaker 1: off in past years. How he looked in I think
Speaker 1: it's worth checking out them just because what else are
Speaker 1: gonna do? You gotta play the rest of the schedule.
Speaker 1: But it doesn't mean that they need to do it
Speaker 1: immediately because one of these guys is opening the season.
Speaker 1: One thing, there is literally no way, if you're Mike
Speaker 1: mccagnet that you can sell this fan base on any
Speaker 1: level that Bryce Petty or Christian Hackenburgh are your are
Speaker 1: your quarterback for next season? Absolutely not. And we saw
Speaker 1: Hackenburg in a lifeless preseason where there's no pass rush,
Speaker 1: there's no scheming, and he was abysmal. I just I
Speaker 1: don't know what you're telling your teammate. Eight teams in
Speaker 1: your pocket? Pet done with Petty? Though? Do you honestly
Speaker 1: think Petty has any chance to be the Jets long
Speaker 1: term into quarterback. Don't you think they know that? Maybe
Speaker 1: they see him as a backup. I just think, like
Speaker 1: I mean, McCown came into this game with a chance
Speaker 1: to become the highest completion percentage leader in Jets history.
Speaker 1: He's had I'm just saying, Josh McCown has done more
Speaker 1: than anyone expected him. Sister and fast. Five days ago,
Speaker 1: you were thinking I was a jerk for wanting to
Speaker 1: fork um. Now you want to see you have enough
Speaker 1: victory parades, and that's not a victory. I'm saying like
Speaker 1: it's four and six. He's saying that after they lost bucks,
Speaker 1: though not when they does not make more sense before
Speaker 1: this game happened. Now it makes sense to me. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to see how Sunday played out, and I
Speaker 1: kind of suspicions this is going to happen, and it did.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm laming for an apology from the rest of
Speaker 1: his room. Why because all of the shots he took
Speaker 1: at me for my Josh McCown love for the lad
Speaker 1: he's made the lead, he's making the leap as well.
Speaker 1: All of the shots they were taken over and over again.
Speaker 1: And my only point was he's a perfectly respectable placeholder
Speaker 1: at quarterback. I thought you said he was one of
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time. That's how I could remember
Speaker 1: that he outplayed Jay Cutler, which I mean I dealt
Speaker 1: with him, his Cleveland's quarterback for two years. I feel
Speaker 1: like I was part at least allowed myself to suffer.
Speaker 1: I wasn't just taking shots, all right, Let's move on
Speaker 1: on second to nine. A snapped Hunley looking scrambles to
Speaker 1: his right, throws the right side for Adam stinning Adams
Speaker 1: a spinning gravel on the right corner of the end zone.
Speaker 1: Wayne Larvy w T MJ with a call Brat Hunley
Speaker 1: through for two hundred twelve yards and a touchdown to
Speaker 1: Davante Adams as the Packers end of the three game
Speaker 1: losing streak over the Chicago Bears, who taught us a
Speaker 1: lesson in recency bias. Mark green Bay looked like a
Speaker 1: lost six days ago. What was different today? Well, I
Speaker 1: saw I saw stepping stones. I saw steps from Brett Hunley.
Speaker 1: I feel like you saw a couple of throws. He
Speaker 1: had a touchdown two atoms, which I think that was
Speaker 1: the call right there? Well it was, and and they
Speaker 1: were immediately calling an Aaron Rodgers like throw all I'll
Speaker 1: say this, it was the best throw that Hunley has
Speaker 1: made all year, and all you want to see, It's
Speaker 1: like you can't ask for it the minute he's put
Speaker 1: on the field out of nowhere, having never really played
Speaker 1: in a real game situation. It's taken some weeks. This
Speaker 1: is a good defense he faced, and he made some throws.
Speaker 1: He kept the offense alive, and they lost Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: early in the game, so he didn't have you know,
Speaker 1: his number one back out there supporting the way he
Speaker 1: did in pass games where the running game was working.
Speaker 1: Everything was working around Hunley except Hunley. This was a
Speaker 1: little bit of a growth move for him. I think
Speaker 1: it was a promising game. I don't know what it
Speaker 1: means for the Packers long term, but I mean their
Speaker 1: season is over if they lose this one today. They're
Speaker 1: the only team with a winning record that's been forked.
Speaker 1: So they've got that motivational gambit in their back pocket.
Speaker 1: If anyone would like to deliver that news to them,
Speaker 1: because I am certain they don't know that West tooken
Speaker 1: l today as well. I am perfectly willing to take
Speaker 1: a loss in the lock game if it makes the
Speaker 1: Packers more watchable and maybe for a few minutes, shuts
Speaker 1: up the people who think it's a bright idea, the
Speaker 1: people who think that because we haven't seen Coln Kaepernick
Speaker 1: for a while. He's Johnny Unitis and off of his
Speaker 1: couch will come in and do a better job than
Speaker 1: a guy that Mark Mike McCarthy has been grooming and
Speaker 1: developing for three years. How did uh do we like
Speaker 1: uh Mitch Drobiskie at all in this game? At least
Speaker 1: they let him throw thirty five times. People are kind
Speaker 1: of waiting for that coming out of a bye week
Speaker 1: that you know, maybe, well, they couldn't run the ball.
Speaker 1: I think when they couldn't run the ball, it wasn't
Speaker 1: I don't think they went in hoping he'd throw the
Speaker 1: ball thirty five times. But I think every week Strabisky
Speaker 1: shows you a little bit about why he is someone
Speaker 1: that they trust to start week after week. He's beautiful
Speaker 1: rollout passer. The most John fox Is moment, though, happened
Speaker 1: today when Benny Cunningham beautiful passenger Serbiski runs touchdown, long, long, touchdown,
Speaker 1: catch and run and he's diving and he has the
Speaker 1: ball and it's and it's about to touch the pylon.
Speaker 1: The ball comes a little loose and Fox basically challenged
Speaker 1: it to confirm that it was a touchdown versus him
Speaker 1: being down earlier in the like the one yard line
Speaker 1: and the refs reverse it and to say touchback Packers ball.
Speaker 1: That that Fox his fault, but you know it is
Speaker 1: his fault that the results end up being. That is
Speaker 1: probably the worst challenge in his It was bad about
Speaker 1: he literally gave the ball to the other other team
Speaker 1: was at a first thing goal. I was rooting hard
Speaker 1: in this game quietly for West to be right because
Speaker 1: I'm worried now that the Packers won that the flex
Speaker 1: Nola movement put in the Rams and Saints. It's going great.
Speaker 1: We've had lots oft Twitter. You know, I appreciate everyone
Speaker 1: out there that's been tweeting about it's been getting and
Speaker 1: getting a lot of tweets hashtag flex Nola jumping on
Speaker 1: that it's not too eight to let the NFL know,
Speaker 1: get the Packers out of prime time in Week twelve
Speaker 1: and put one of the most entertaining, exciting NFL games
Speaker 1: in the year on Sunday Night football. Some people like
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King go out and help civil rights. Gregg
Speaker 1: is trying to flex the game into the schedule three
Speaker 1: or four weeks from now. And if there's one thing
Speaker 1: we learned when we appeal to the League office through
Speaker 1: this podcast, like sending us to London, for instance. They
Speaker 1: will act and they'll say, Wow, this show has a
Speaker 1: great foothold in the UK, let's get him there because
Speaker 1: we're smart business people. For Ef Hutton's right here. They
Speaker 1: just simply perk up the ears. We act off what
Speaker 1: they say. Um, okay, what's the opposite of cash? That's
Speaker 1: what we have? Um all right for? By the way,
Speaker 1: Ford and move on. Didn't you Greg lock up the
Speaker 1: Jets on Thursday? I locked up the Titans? You old
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, remember you? What do you mean you guys
Speaker 1: made fun of you made fun of that? You didn't
Speaker 1: think it was everybody gave him some? They weren't. They weren't.
Speaker 1: They were too small. Oh you know what it was?
Speaker 1: You know. I threw it to the Kissing Cousins and
Speaker 1: then West ruled that you had to the end of
Speaker 1: the show to decide. And then yeah, and I never
Speaker 1: I never really visited. So we know what really happened.
Speaker 1: What really happened When one for two pick as well,
Speaker 1: I said, no, I'm gonna stick with it. Let's second second,
Speaker 1: We'll let a t N lock up the side you
Speaker 1: know they'll figure out, seems saying that seems like a
Speaker 1: neutral arbiter. Is that scene fair, Gret? That's fine. We're
Speaker 1: playing for last place. I trying to extra loss. There's no,
Speaker 1: there's no didn't actually pick the deaths, but given to me.
Speaker 1: There's no lock up draft. Greg's trying to be gained
Speaker 1: from this. Let's I kind of like it. Let's check
Speaker 1: in with the other downtrodden New York team. Bethrod under center.
Speaker 1: Giants bring extra people, Towns pick it up. Get Bethard time.
Speaker 1: He takes the deep shot for good. One down the middle. Good,
Speaker 1: one's got the thirty. There's the whole touchdowns eighty three
Speaker 1: yards A long time coming. Ted Robinson sounds like a
Speaker 1: guy has been waiting to call play like that. Uh
Speaker 1: there was the uh. San Francisco forty Niners are off infamy.
Speaker 1: Watch c J. Beth threw two touchdown passes. He completed
Speaker 1: more than his passes. It's the forty Niners cruised passed
Speaker 1: deep at that big bell bottom. That ends a nine
Speaker 1: game losing streak for the Niners and leaves the Browns
Speaker 1: is the NFL's lone winless team. The Giants. Meanwhile, they
Speaker 1: may be in the dark West. I'm leaning on you.
Speaker 1: You're a football historian. Uh, they may be in the
Speaker 1: darkest places of franchise hell since maybe pre Parcels. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd say late seventies, early eighties, and they were in
Speaker 1: a very dark place then for extended time. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: was thinking about it because I grew up in New
Speaker 1: York obviously, and around all Giants fans, very few Jets
Speaker 1: fans in the town where I grew up, and so
Speaker 1: I've been very close to this team since the eighties,
Speaker 1: and they've had bad seasons, the Giants. So one of
Speaker 1: the reasons there's such a great organization is they can
Speaker 1: come out of those uh those valleys and then they
Speaker 1: put together little runs of multiple years. So you have
Speaker 1: to kind of go back to maybe post Parcels, Ray
Speaker 1: Hanley into Dave Brown, but that was never as what's
Speaker 1: happening right here, So you might have to have to
Speaker 1: go back to Ray Perkins and to a Giants fan
Speaker 1: base that was exceedingly loyal and had It's basically similar
Speaker 1: to before the Steelers in the seventies became a powerhouse
Speaker 1: with that city went through for decades and decades. It
Speaker 1: was that long in New York. I remember or being
Speaker 1: old enough where friends fathers when they finally won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl were crying. It had been they had waited
Speaker 1: since they were kids. Basically, Well, the difference, you know
Speaker 1: with this team is people picking them to win the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That's what makes it. No, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: it's especially ugly. I didn't even mean you at this point,
Speaker 1: like so many people had them. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: I I can't. Here's why I'm gonna disagree. And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you one thing. Yes, you're suffering one of these
Speaker 1: sort of aberration. You're gonna go two and fourteen. But
Speaker 1: they're gonna it's the end of Eli Manning's career, and
Speaker 1: if there is a quarterback that emerges, they're gonna have
Speaker 1: the first, second or third pick in the draft and
Speaker 1: the chance to go from Eli Manning to another potentials
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, which is good timing. The Manning brothers do this, baby, baby,
Speaker 1: but they just I just mean in this season, in
Speaker 1: this defense, especially giving up four hundred and seventy four
Speaker 1: yards to c J. Bethred and Matt Breda and Louis
Speaker 1: Murphy who has just signed off the off the street
Speaker 1: and someone named Kendrick Bourne, who is an undrafted player
Speaker 1: from American making plays on you the numbers eight point
Speaker 1: two yards for to play. This is Kyle Shanahan's Falcons.
Speaker 1: Like when the Giants defense steps on the field, pretty
Speaker 1: much the worst offense in the league, the Forts or
Speaker 1: one of them at least turns into the two thousand
Speaker 1: and sixteen Falcons. Genera's wasn't even trying to make tackles today,
Speaker 1: And when they tried to interview him after the game,
Speaker 1: a PR person literally was trying to keep him in
Speaker 1: the locker room so that he would answer questions, and
Speaker 1: he muscled pass and got the the PR person out
Speaker 1: of the way. Mike Florio's reporting that Ben McAdoo might
Speaker 1: not even make it into next week it is about
Speaker 1: as ugly as a game that's bad by Jack Roberts.
Speaker 1: I was wondering what Jack Rabbit did to have half
Speaker 1: the beat writers of the Jaire fired up and all
Speaker 1: the Fantasy football Twitter demanding did he get yanked off
Speaker 1: the field for effort? There was a There were two
Speaker 1: different plays at least that they highlighted in the in
Speaker 1: the highlight reels where you know the forty Niners scored,
Speaker 1: and it didn't seem like Jenkins was going too far
Speaker 1: out of his way to this tackle. The I mean
Speaker 1: better just sacked fourteen times in the three games coming
Speaker 1: into this. He was getting beaten up to the point
Speaker 1: where you thought, maybe you don't put Garoppolo in there
Speaker 1: because he's gonna suffering. She potentially wasn't touched today. They
Speaker 1: gave up fifty one points to the Rams. Last week
Speaker 1: the Giants, this was the worst law. I think everything
Speaker 1: it's gonna be in everything must go. A situation with
Speaker 1: the Giants, I think it's Ben mcadoo's obviously gone. I
Speaker 1: think Jerry Reese could end up be gone gone because
Speaker 1: as much credit as he got for that free agent
Speaker 1: hall last year, now with things what's happening with Jack
Speaker 1: Rabbit and d r C who I don't think it
Speaker 1: was last year hook up pick up, but he was
Speaker 1: a big signing by Reese. I mean these I think
Speaker 1: they might just hit the button and and it goes
Speaker 1: all the way to the top, perhaps trading up or
Speaker 1: being in the top three and getting a quarterback and
Speaker 1: just starting over. It could certainly happen, and if it does,
Speaker 1: it was a great, great run. And if they have
Speaker 1: they players. Uh, if this is how it ends, well,
Speaker 1: a Giants bench is as much as the sucks. I
Speaker 1: I'm sure it does. I get it. Been in the
Speaker 1: in the situation. You had a great run with Eli
Speaker 1: and and Reese and Coughlin into McAdoo. But now you
Speaker 1: gotta it's the new journey. Yeah, I mean, give me
Speaker 1: a break with total darkness. It's a better They won
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls. It's worth knowing that with that one
Speaker 1: and out last year was the only playoff game they've
Speaker 1: been in in the last six seasons, so it has
Speaker 1: been not dark like this, but it hasn't had a
Speaker 1: lot of success since since that. Soon that's unrest too,
Speaker 1: so you would think he's very vulnerable. Thought. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: you're building through free agency, you're building a roster, not
Speaker 1: a team, and I think this is the downside of that.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on Sunday night, mcmatics Tea's up
Speaker 1: to kick off toward Lewis kicks sailing two yards into
Speaker 1: the end zone. Left side was sprist pass. A look
Speaker 1: at the lay end of the thirties cuts the who
Speaker 1: in the four silo pushing running the block goes to
Speaker 1: the tener sliding right to the end zone, wired the
Speaker 1: wire Lewis touchdown, Patriots Bob Soci and the Zolac with
Speaker 1: the call w b Z. He's going by the Zolac
Speaker 1: at this point. Let's fly. Uh. The New England Patriots,
Speaker 1: led by Dion Lewis is one in three yard kickoff
Speaker 1: return UH trouts the Denver Broncos on Sunday Night Football
Speaker 1: at forty one to six team final. Uh. And this
Speaker 1: was a game, Greg Rosenthal, that you could have tried
Speaker 1: to get yourself talk yourself into. The Broncos last stand. Oh,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady has struggled against Denver Broncos at mile high.
Speaker 1: But you know what, this is the tale of two teams.
Speaker 1: One team in the Broncos and the Patriots is getting
Speaker 1: better and better, and one team in the Broncos that
Speaker 1: is just going down the toilet. Yeah, they don't look
Speaker 1: like a good, a well coached team, the Broncos. I
Speaker 1: thought that if you're if the Broncos are gonna get
Speaker 1: blown out in this game, the reason is gonna be
Speaker 1: Brock Osweiler. And yet brock Osweiler can't believe it. I
Speaker 1: can't believe it that he really didn't have that much
Speaker 1: of a factor in this final score. The Broncos scored
Speaker 1: their offense on four of their first five possessions. What
Speaker 1: more do you want out of brock Osweiler? And they
Speaker 1: were trailing by three plus scores at that time. The
Speaker 1: special teams alone for Denver made mistakes that led to
Speaker 1: twenty four points, either directly or indirectly because the Patriots
Speaker 1: scored after it. My question would be this that people
Speaker 1: looked at what happened when Denver ran into an Eagles
Speaker 1: buzz saw last week and gave up fifty one point,
Speaker 1: you're now giving up ninety plus in two weeks. Are
Speaker 1: we allowed to be concerned about Denver's defense or are
Speaker 1: they still seen as some sort of super Bowl level outfit.
Speaker 1: I don't see them that. I mean, that would be
Speaker 1: really straight. But but even twelve hours ago, people were saying, well,
Speaker 1: because that was because they had played seven or eight
Speaker 1: seven really solid games. I would say it two very good,
Speaker 1: and the Eagles game looked like an outlier. And now
Speaker 1: they've got two games like this in a row. I
Speaker 1: think they've earned some of that respect and benefited doubt.
Speaker 1: But but when you give up ninety two points over
Speaker 1: a two week stretch that there's definitely a reason to
Speaker 1: be skeptical and start looking for whether it runs deeper.
Speaker 1: I know Chris Harris was talking about the absence of
Speaker 1: t J. Ward last week. I don't know if there's
Speaker 1: still some hurt feelings there. So who knows how deep
Speaker 1: that run Another Tom Brady he gets kind of overlooked
Speaker 1: in these conversations. But uh, thirty four three more touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks, passer rating of one point four before Brian
Speaker 1: Hoyer took some garbage snaps at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: He is right there at the top of the m
Speaker 1: v P race. He's doing it making it look easy. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I think I think he might be beating father time.
Speaker 1: So that's good. It seems to be gradual. It's an improvement.
Speaker 1: It's a gradual incline. He is you know, you said
Speaker 1: it was. You think he's throwing the ball better since
Speaker 1: the start of last season than he ever has in
Speaker 1: his career. I find it interesting that people attached himself
Speaker 1: to ideas and then like the whole country gets behind it,
Speaker 1: Like Carson Wentz is an m v P and Tom
Speaker 1: Brady's not. Brady has played circles around Wentz this year.
Speaker 1: I I love what Wentz has done. He's been spectacular,
Speaker 1: but Brady has been more consistent in a better pass
Speaker 1: or doesn't that happen to the to New England though.
Speaker 1: It's like every year the coach of the Year goes
Speaker 1: to someone who what a flowery, nice story. You went
Speaker 1: from five and eleven to nine and seven. You're the
Speaker 1: coach of the year. Belichick is been the coach of
Speaker 1: the year every year. Tom Brady is the m v
Speaker 1: P and Aaron Rodgers every year. It's the same thing
Speaker 1: we talk about year and a year out of this podcast.
Speaker 1: Everybody's sick of it. Everyone he gets used it with
Speaker 1: the throne of ease and all that. But I understand
Speaker 1: that that that Brady should not be overlooked by by
Speaker 1: any stretch. And the numbers are there. Look, let's let's
Speaker 1: be honest. The Patriots are once again on their way
Speaker 1: to another thirteen or you know, twelve or thirteen wins,
Speaker 1: and he's the main reason why their their offense is
Speaker 1: getting better throughout the season. I believe. I think Brandon
Speaker 1: Cooks has added an element that they didn't have before.
Speaker 1: Martellis Bennett ends up playing in this game, has had
Speaker 1: a twenty seven yard catch. I'm sure that you know
Speaker 1: annoyed Packers fans out there, but I think he adds
Speaker 1: an important element to their offense because they're are They're
Speaker 1: the ultimate matchup team there. A whole point is to
Speaker 1: get their running backs and now a few of their
Speaker 1: tight ends matched up in advantageous situations on the outside.
Speaker 1: I kind of don't know why other teams don't do
Speaker 1: that more. I guess they don't have enough pass catching
Speaker 1: backs like that is their offense right now, and Brady
Speaker 1: is the best that choosing who has the right matchup,
Speaker 1: and I think adding Bennett really adds a lot to that.
Speaker 1: Greg the Patriots for one in three in the preseason,
Speaker 1: I know that that concerned you. Are you over that
Speaker 1: concern now with them searching about iron? Did I ever
Speaker 1: say about that about tonight when Tommy Boy had a
Speaker 1: three and out in the first drive, Well, this game,
Speaker 1: you know, and then the next play, of course, a
Speaker 1: muffpunt and the game was over at that point. They
Speaker 1: they have been extremely lucky, I believe this season with
Speaker 1: plays like that. I think that helps explain why they're
Speaker 1: thirteenth in Football Outsiders in terms of efficiency. They've had
Speaker 1: a lot of things go their way in terms of
Speaker 1: turnovers or tonight it with special teams and they made
Speaker 1: their breaks there. But there's a lot of games where
Speaker 1: you watched it and the two teams didn't seem that
Speaker 1: uneven when you look at yards or yards for play
Speaker 1: and then you look at the scoreboard and it's a blowout,
Speaker 1: And sometimes I think that's coaching. I mean, Hugh Jackson
Speaker 1: and the Browns have outgained their opponents in five of
Speaker 1: nine games this year, and they have even won a game.
Speaker 1: I couldn't be any happier with you know what, I've
Speaker 1: experienced another bad game on Sunday Night, Al Chris and
Speaker 1: Michelle the best on TV perhaps, but the worst luck
Speaker 1: this season. And how bad was this game? In the
Speaker 1: second half? As this thing just evolved into a laugher,
Speaker 1: we just started going around the room, uh, West Gregg
Speaker 1: and myself guessing which foods Mark still eats now that
Speaker 1: he's basically a vegan. And that was the most entertaining
Speaker 1: aspect today. Well, because you because you only root for
Speaker 1: two teams. We you said this, you volunteered this downstairs.
Speaker 1: You only have two teams that you have rootine interests
Speaker 1: for the Jets and whoever plays the Patriots. You just
Speaker 1: didn't like this result. If it was everyone else in
Speaker 1: this room thrilled by the I think that here's the thing,
Speaker 1: and this is this is where it gets to me
Speaker 1: a little bit, is that we were saying this is
Speaker 1: how this game was gonna go all week long, and
Speaker 1: then it's all this like false hoop law about how
Speaker 1: it's going to be a great game and stuff, and
Speaker 1: in the end it's a wrong this podcast. You have
Speaker 1: to just accept that in a bad a f C,
Speaker 1: this team is gonna say it is a stunner. If
Speaker 1: they don't make the Super Bowl, it is a stunner.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear any other straw men in
Speaker 1: farm fields. Why is it ridiculous fields? Why is it
Speaker 1: ridiculous to say the Patriots up our bags? As we
Speaker 1: finished this podcast, remember when this that you're just mad
Speaker 1: that they're winning, because not mad, I just want to
Speaker 1: acknowledge that. Let's acknowledge that they're the clear favorites that
Speaker 1: would be at five straight games, they've they've now not
Speaker 1: allowed more than seventeen points. Remember when the defense was
Speaker 1: the big what a narrative that was. Oh, the Patriots don't.
Speaker 1: Oh they're a mess this year. They might not even
Speaker 1: make the play. Of course, to the clear favorites. What
Speaker 1: are you even doing over there? Alright? I guess I
Speaker 1: was saying favorites versus the field. I'd take the field
Speaker 1: in the a f C. Yeah, I would take the field.
Speaker 1: Come on, the field was burnt down about four weeks ago.
Speaker 1: There's nothing growing in the field where the straw man
Speaker 1: that you're the Patriots up in their castle looking down
Speaker 1: on this field that was scorched by invaders. Well, if
Speaker 1: you wanted to go at another you know narrative that's
Speaker 1: died is their tackle an offensive line play was terrible
Speaker 1: mablem And now like Adrian Waddle comes in there and
Speaker 1: Nate Soldier and their Stone and Von Miller. They had
Speaker 1: a nice night. Ah, there you go. So the Patriots
Speaker 1: cruising to another Super Bowl. Will be back on Tuesday
Speaker 1: when we will recap the Monday night match up between
Speaker 1: Mark Uh the Dolphins and the Carolina Panthers. But I
Speaker 1: had you there for a second. You did for a second,
Speaker 1: and uh and we'll have some fun on Tuesday with
Speaker 1: Connie Fox and another week of action. So thank you
Speaker 1: to everyone. Uh, Connie Fox, who refused to fork the
Speaker 1: Broncos and I and I want to say it before
Speaker 1: we go. I want to say before we go because
Speaker 1: it's stuck in my head. One of our loyal listeners
Speaker 1: of forty Niners fans, after I tweeted something derisive about
Speaker 1: the Giants at the end of that game, said please,
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna spend your three or four minutes
Speaker 1: killing the Giants in this game, but will you please
Speaker 1: say something nice about our team in this game? This
Speaker 1: is all we have. And I've been there. I was
Speaker 1: there as a Patriots fan on a one in fifteen
Speaker 1: season or on a bad season, and you really do
Speaker 1: enjoy those winning days. So you know, let's give up
Speaker 1: some kudos. I'm gonna say. C J. Beth played, He's
Speaker 1: shop quarterback, Jimmy Garoppolo. He showed a lot of toughness.
Speaker 1: I think you saw some of the great coaching that
Speaker 1: you'll see in the future in Kyle Shanahan. C J. Bethard,
Speaker 1: I think showed a lot of toughness the last few
Speaker 1: weeks and hits and he shows up and he got
Speaker 1: rewarded for it today. And Marky's goodwin on what was
Speaker 1: a tragic day for him. He lost his son at
Speaker 1: four in the morning during childbirth, and he scores an
Speaker 1: eighty three yard touchdown and his teammates mobbed him and
Speaker 1: it was a special moment there, like you're that that
Speaker 1: was a pretty special moment for the Forts and let
Speaker 1: them have their day. Good job, Greg, very well done.
Speaker 1: As always you're a total row um. All right, So
Speaker 1: that's it. Catch you Tuesday. Another week in the books,
Speaker 1: Mark We're basic seasons basically are then Hands, the sunning Off,
Speaker 1: quiet night Bars, the mail Man, the Old Boss and
Speaker 1: Lindsay Poulton behind the Glass Till Tuesday.