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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast,
Speaker 1: presented by Head and Shoulders. My name is Dan hansis
Speaker 1: joined by a room Phillis some hero is Mark Cessler
Speaker 1: to my left, all of my right. Greg Rosenthal, Man,
Speaker 1: it's Thanksgiving night. It's wild here. We've never had a
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving night many podcasts before. Special edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast Thanksgiving Night in Culver City. It doesn't
Speaker 1: get anymore wild. Lindsey Fulton behind the glass, Smasher behind
Speaker 1: the glass. What a party? Yes, we have three games
Speaker 1: to talk about. We haven't done this before, Mark, have we?
Speaker 1: You have to explain who Smasher is. He's a special
Speaker 1: individual who we treasure. Yeah, Smasher is my buddy, my
Speaker 1: wife's uh friend's boyfriend that I know. I don't want
Speaker 1: to really get into details, but he Smasher and he's
Speaker 1: a good Who does he hang with? Just give us
Speaker 1: a vaguely who he hangs with? I shouldn't say. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's one of the thanks with a major rock contingent.
Speaker 1: It's it's yeah, you people, piece of I feel much
Speaker 1: better because literally until you just explained that I thought
Speaker 1: Smasher was a guy who works, you know, some tech
Speaker 1: behind the glass that I wasn't familiar with from before.
Speaker 1: I mean for people, people, for people from across the sea.
Speaker 1: We're in Los Angeles, we hang with people of importance.
Speaker 1: Smasher is one of them. Greg. That does show a
Speaker 1: growing disconnect with people behind the glass that you thought
Speaker 1: that he might have been someone that's been I just
Speaker 1: maybe it would have been someone who just had popped
Speaker 1: in a couple of times, you know, happens to be
Speaker 1: here the night helping outfall done. I don't know Smasher's
Speaker 1: my friend. Leave you alone? All right, here we go,
Speaker 1: this is the Thanksgiving Show. There's already a weird energy
Speaker 1: about well because I think, listen, it's Thanksgiving, it's nine nights.
Speaker 1: Got a weird energy, like my family life is on
Speaker 1: the rocks at the moment. Let's just get down to
Speaker 1: covering the three football games that crazed our human presence.
Speaker 1: All right, there were three games to play, and that's
Speaker 1: how we're gonna break it down. We're gonna go through
Speaker 1: each of the games. Minnesota, Detroit, l A, Dallas and
Speaker 1: then of course Giant Jimen Redskins. Uh, and then you'll
Speaker 1: hear us, hear us again on Sunday. We'll break down
Speaker 1: the rest of the week twelve. But this is how
Speaker 1: we're gonna start. Let's just go through it. There's no greg,
Speaker 1: There's no reason to like pussyfoot here, right, No, I
Speaker 1: think I think just going to the first game as
Speaker 1: a normal way to approach things, Lindsey, should we just
Speaker 1: go to the first game. Let's do it. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no reason to pussyfoot. Let's go to the first game.
Speaker 1: Keenham shotgun, snap comes, chest, hot pressure coming. Keenum hit
Speaker 1: as he throws towards the ends on Rudolph with the
Speaker 1: catch touchdown. Case Keenum took her shot, but floated it
Speaker 1: into the outstretched arms of his tight end Kyle Rudolph.
Speaker 1: Twenty two yard touchdown and the Vikings late nineteen to three.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Case Keen is for real. He threw
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, ran for another, and the Minnesota Vikings built
Speaker 1: up a double digit lead, then coasted to a thirty Well.
Speaker 1: Coasted is strong. Coasted is strong, very strong. There were moments,
Speaker 1: there were definitely moments. They jumped to a big lead
Speaker 1: and held on. I'm gonna say, held on and moving first,
Speaker 1: held on to thirty to three win over the Lions
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal game that all but ices UH the NFC
Speaker 1: North and once again a big road win and a
Speaker 1: big spot. The Vikings are for real. They are They're
Speaker 1: one of the best teams in the league. And case Keenum,
Speaker 1: I believe, played two of his best three games of
Speaker 1: the entire season the last two weeks. The moment that
Speaker 1: the Teddy Bridgewater activation happens, the moment the schedule turns
Speaker 1: more important, with a big NFC matchup last week against
Speaker 1: the Rams, with the big division matchup this week on
Speaker 1: a short week. HeSE Keenum played better his pocket movement,
Speaker 1: being able to get away from pressure for this game.
Speaker 1: Not saying for the rest of the season, but for
Speaker 1: this game, Keenum, not Matthew Stafford, made more plays after
Speaker 1: pressure was on him consistently. Stafford was the guy who
Speaker 1: had a couple of missus had a couple of hits,
Speaker 1: and Keenum was a big part of the reason they won.
Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more. I mean Stafford dealt with deficits of
Speaker 1: thirteen to nothing, twenty to three, seven to ten, and
Speaker 1: still in Lions fashion, brought this team to the brink
Speaker 1: of a near victory because it's all on Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1: If you're the Detroit Lions, it's their zero run game
Speaker 1: and you can't can't count on a faceless defense to
Speaker 1: do much for you. But it was not enough Detroit
Speaker 1: this time around. Like here's the thing with case Keenum.
Speaker 1: You can say he's not spectacular, he's not Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: He's not going to do what Tom Brady does. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna be to Shaun Watson. But he does not
Speaker 1: turn the ball over. He's safe with the ball. He
Speaker 1: this season, this season in particular, he has been extremely
Speaker 1: good in terms of seeing the field. Seniors receivers, Adam
Speaker 1: Theland again, did Adam Theland things. Stefan Diggs did what
Speaker 1: he needed to do. They got enough from the running
Speaker 1: game coming right out of the half. They charged down
Speaker 1: the field with a They used the run entirely that
Speaker 1: one four play drive, which I think put this game
Speaker 1: out of hand. And Detroit hung around to some degree
Speaker 1: the way that the Lions do in a way if
Speaker 1: you're trying to cover the game, is dramatic enough to
Speaker 1: keep you hanging up. But the Vikings they were, they
Speaker 1: were too much to deal with. I think Case and
Speaker 1: I think West brought it up last week, which I
Speaker 1: totally agree with that Keenum is Ryan Fitzpatrick, but it's
Speaker 1: it's to a greater level because that Fitzpatrick Jet season
Speaker 1: was special, but there were ebbs and flows to that season.
Speaker 1: Keenum has been a very strong quarterback start to finish.
Speaker 1: And if if Brandon Marshall and Eric Decker made that
Speaker 1: engine go for the Jets that season, you have feeling
Speaker 1: and and digs here and Keenom just deserves all the
Speaker 1: credit in the world for what he's been able to do.
Speaker 1: And then the other side, here's the thing. Yeah, Stafford
Speaker 1: almost brought the Lions back. But also when you're against
Speaker 1: actual teams, real contenders, you can't go to sleep for
Speaker 1: two quarters, two and a half quarters. You have to score,
Speaker 1: you have to be on top of you have to
Speaker 1: be aggressive, and when you try to pull that comeback
Speaker 1: stuff against the real team, it just doesn't work. But
Speaker 1: they did have the ball down four in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter with a chance to go do it and couldn't
Speaker 1: get it done. No they I mean they stopped on
Speaker 1: that drive. I can think of a couple of different drives,
Speaker 1: but one of the drives ended partially because Xavier Rhads
Speaker 1: made a really good open field tackle on second down.
Speaker 1: Then they didn't pick up the third down. That's also
Speaker 1: how it drive in the first half ended, where they
Speaker 1: throw a six yard pass on third and seven and
Speaker 1: Rhads gets him to the ground. And that's one of
Speaker 1: the things that I think is under the radar with
Speaker 1: his Vikings team. Yeah, Keenham is great and the skill
Speaker 1: players are great. This defense has been together so long.
Speaker 1: They do the little things like tackling, and the Lions
Speaker 1: missed tackles all over the place in this game, and
Speaker 1: you kind of look at the difference between the two
Speaker 1: on a week to week basis, and that's one of them.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just they couldn't keep drives going in
Speaker 1: a chance they did have a chance. I mean, Stafford
Speaker 1: said it like at the end of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, we'd like to start fast, but every quarter matters.
Speaker 1: In the end, we had the ball with the chance
Speaker 1: to go win. I also thought, and you know, listen,
Speaker 1: we we don't get on the refs too much on
Speaker 1: this podcast, but I thought that the Zebras in this game,
Speaker 1: where this was one of the worst officiated games that
Speaker 1: I've seen. If you're a Vikings fan, you have a
Speaker 1: reason to be upset. Case Keenum called for taunting after
Speaker 1: he was and he was sitting on the ground, just
Speaker 1: kneeling the way that Tom Brady was in the Soup
Speaker 1: Bowl against the Giants, just legs extend on the ground,
Speaker 1: casually flips the ball and called for taunting to the
Speaker 1: plays after the Lions. The Lions were not called for
Speaker 1: a pass interference call that would have put this game
Speaker 1: completely out of hand. Had they should have been rightfully,
Speaker 1: the Vikings would have gotten a field goal or touched
Speaker 1: on that one. I didn't have a problem if I
Speaker 1: had a problem, and I just thought, I think the
Speaker 1: Lions like that. I think the Vikings were flagged someone
Speaker 1: like fifteen times in this game, Like there was something
Speaker 1: very odd going on with the calls in this game.
Speaker 1: And now the lights the Lions dropped to six and five,
Speaker 1: two and four at home. By the way, you gotta
Speaker 1: defend they're they're just short and too many areas there.
Speaker 1: How about Everson Griffin, by the way, having his son
Speaker 1: was born hours before this game started, has two sacks,
Speaker 1: lifted his not his jersey and said I still do
Speaker 1: I don't even know what my son's name is. He
Speaker 1: didn't even help me name it. So you know, you know,
Speaker 1: not the only father, you know, having to give up
Speaker 1: some fatherly responsibilities to to go work in football. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know if his I don't know if he's
Speaker 1: going to face the ramifications that I will. You're getting
Speaker 1: some heat at home, get a little heat like this
Speaker 1: has been coming back that that sound drop cannot be
Speaker 1: more relevant than it is now. Um, what I was
Speaker 1: trying to say, Greg, is that sorry two and four
Speaker 1: at home? M hmm. You got to defend the Lions then?
Speaker 1: Is there such a thing there is anyone you've been
Speaker 1: claiming there's such a They're they're a fine team. Staffords
Speaker 1: a top eight quarterback. I think fine in the nine
Speaker 1: and seven sense they have. They have a not like
Speaker 1: they're a fine team. Their defense is nondescript. At this point.
Speaker 1: Zat is having that season. I don't need to hear
Speaker 1: about Stafford doing it on his own again though, because
Speaker 1: he's got golden tape. He's got Marvin Jones who is incredible,
Speaker 1: and he is having a great season. I think Ibron
Speaker 1: they've got enough weapons, but they don't have a running game.
Speaker 1: Well okay, so heyt in the passing game. But you
Speaker 1: look at you look at enough case Keenum has. You
Speaker 1: look at what Drew Brees has, what Cam Newton has
Speaker 1: right now, and it's like you when you can control
Speaker 1: the when you have a leading control on the ground,
Speaker 1: That's what the Lions do not ever have around Stafford.
Speaker 1: And it dates back years and years and it hampers
Speaker 1: his career. It does. And we have to before for
Speaker 1: him give our annual not annual, but every show we
Speaker 1: give a shout out to Pat Schremer. So once again,
Speaker 1: Pat Shermer, what what a job and Charmer were to
Speaker 1: be elevated to the level of head coach, what kind
Speaker 1: of success he might have with the team. It would
Speaker 1: be glorious to watch eight eight nine and seven seven
Speaker 1: nine fired. Um, that's mean, I don't know what he
Speaker 1: would do. I mean we have some track record. It
Speaker 1: wasn't it didn't go great. Um. The Vikings nine and two.
Speaker 1: This has been a bit of a gauntlet that they've
Speaker 1: ace so far. Now they go to Atlanta UH in
Speaker 1: week thirteen and the Lions go to Baltimore at six
Speaker 1: and five and basically, UM have to find a way
Speaker 1: to win almost every game from here on now, it's
Speaker 1: a tough spot for the Lions. Oh one more thing.
Speaker 1: Usually I think they're silly, these um so these little
Speaker 1: trophies of the broad you like, the golden football, golden turkey.
Speaker 1: It's not even whatever it is, the trophy. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I just felt good for Case Keenum, Yes, a national
Speaker 1: television in the best football of his life. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was probably the best game hanging with Aaron Andrews.
Speaker 1: He's hanging with the a and he's holding the trophy
Speaker 1: and it's like a nice job. It's a It's a
Speaker 1: long way from the episode three of of All or
Speaker 1: Nothing last year when he got benched and really seemed
Speaker 1: to be a guy who had lost all his confidence.
Speaker 1: And now here he is. He's a household. I don't
Speaker 1: trust anyone that does not get behind Case Keenum in
Speaker 1: his journey. Right now, you heard it here, people trust
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Speaker 1: an scort He'll sprint it all the way back yards
Speaker 1: end of the end zone touchdown. Desmond King's first pick
Speaker 1: is a pick six and the dagger for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving eight to six Chargers. Desmond King returned in
Speaker 1: interception ninety yards for a touchdown that basically ended the
Speaker 1: game in big D and Philip rivers through for four
Speaker 1: D and thirty four yards excuse me, and three touchdowns
Speaker 1: as the Dallas Cowboys fade into oblivion. Six loss of
Speaker 1: the Chargers Cruise. What a big win mark for the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers all of a sudden five and six.
Speaker 1: Uh some statement victories here, and they basically in a
Speaker 1: game we talked about heading into this game was a
Speaker 1: loser goes home type match. Chargers aren't going nowhere, and
Speaker 1: we talked that's exactly right. We talked about the winner
Speaker 1: of this game having new life and the loser having
Speaker 1: to deal with their own mistakes accrued over the course
Speaker 1: of a season. The Charges came out into this game,
Speaker 1: they abandoned the run right from the start. They must
Speaker 1: have said what we feel we can do with Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen and Travis Benjamin is attack the Dallas secondary. The
Speaker 1: first three drives went for seventy eight, nine and sixty
Speaker 1: six yards but generated only three points. At that point,
Speaker 1: you change the course. They did not. They kept attacking,
Speaker 1: and they found a way over the course of the
Speaker 1: game to completely dominate Dallas that I cannot figure out.
Speaker 1: You have Tyrone, you have Tyrone Smith back. You don't
Speaker 1: have a zeque Elly. That's the one guy missing and
Speaker 1: the Dallas deef. The Dallas offense has generated what twenty
Speaker 1: four points I think in three games. They it's abysmal.
Speaker 1: It's the lowest total over three games in the history
Speaker 1: of the Dallas Cowboys. And I don't need to hear
Speaker 1: every Cowboys fan or you know, all the armchair analysis
Speaker 1: after this game or even after the season that okay,
Speaker 1: you know they went down because you know when Zeke
Speaker 1: went down, it was over. This is more than this
Speaker 1: is more than Zeke. First of all, they've run the ball.
Speaker 1: Let's really well, the last couple of weeks, they don't
Speaker 1: have a vertical passing game. They don't have a passing
Speaker 1: game really at all that they can rely on. In
Speaker 1: the first half that Dak Prescott did not throw a
Speaker 1: ball that went more than eight yards, Like he didn't
Speaker 1: even try to throw a ball, and I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is, whether it's the protection has him kind
Speaker 1: of you know, looking downfield, whether the scheme is stale.
Speaker 1: Beasley and Dez is not coming up with those this year,
Speaker 1: and they faced these. He's not a number one wide
Speaker 1: receiver under the radar. The Chargers defense has been better
Speaker 1: than their offense for the whole season, and now the
Speaker 1: offense is starting to catch up, and they're a tough
Speaker 1: team to deal with. The Cowboys have lost three straight
Speaker 1: games by at least twenty points. That has not happened
Speaker 1: since two thousand and four. The second half of those games,
Speaker 1: I think it's seventy four to six. Wasn't there some
Speaker 1: sort of a lock off in this scheme? If I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken, Yes, there, well not here, not in this studio.
Speaker 1: You gotta get you gotta give me the what I deserve.
Speaker 1: It's a good to do what I tried to do.
Speaker 1: That lock was for Connie. Yeah, good for her on
Speaker 1: her eighteenth piece of turkey right now. And probably I
Speaker 1: would gather knowing Connie her seventy five drink. Whoa I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, and I give her credit for that. I
Speaker 1: would say she's probably on her he's locked up a game.
Speaker 1: It's midnight in Philadephia. It's midnight in Philade where she's
Speaker 1: breaking news Lindsay, Connie Fox and out of Control party Apple.
Speaker 1: You know what I was gonna say is yeah, I again,
Speaker 1: I butchered a lock off, and this is this was
Speaker 1: the logic of this failed lock off that Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: Hey listen, this isn't rocket science. This isn't like old
Speaker 1: dumbic stand up to his old tricks. So Dan was saying,
Speaker 1: Tyrant Smith's back, Alfred Morris looked good last week. Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott is a star in my opinion, and they're at
Speaker 1: home in a game they need to win. That's what
Speaker 1: I saw, and you could make sense was with you, well,
Speaker 1: it was with it was with Connie. I'm saying that
Speaker 1: was my logic. But I stand by that logic going
Speaker 1: into this game. So you just don't know. And all
Speaker 1: I could say is I don't want to, like, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw you know, dirt on Dak Prescott.
Speaker 1: But Dak and I know that you don't have a
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. And I lovedz. He's had a
Speaker 1: nice career um, but we're talking about what is he
Speaker 1: He's had a I mean, he's only play is older
Speaker 1: than he is. My point is is that I was
Speaker 1: expecting Dak to win a game last week this week,
Speaker 1: and maybe he's not there yet, maybe he'll never get there.
Speaker 1: But I think a lot of people thought heading into
Speaker 1: the season he was already kind of there. He was
Speaker 1: that there for most of the season. He's not there
Speaker 1: right now, at least not November of twenties. And the
Speaker 1: and the thing was, this is three straight struggle games
Speaker 1: for this offense. So it's not just it's not just
Speaker 1: last week, it's it's a trend. It's not just Zeke,
Speaker 1: it's it's days, it's Dak, it's Cold Beasley, it's the
Speaker 1: whole path. It's the coaching staff. Like when we give
Speaker 1: Shermer and the offensive line credit in Minnesota, I think
Speaker 1: you have to also, you know, get on the people
Speaker 1: around Dak Prescott too. But he's not handling it well.
Speaker 1: And I think he started to see the rush a
Speaker 1: little bit more and started reacting to the rush a
Speaker 1: little bit. And listen a week ago against the Eagles,
Speaker 1: Luke Elliott, their kicker gets knocked out. Eagle Jake Elliott.
Speaker 1: Jake Elliott, the Eagles come out of there with a
Speaker 1: wipe out this week, Nick Novak misses a big chunk
Speaker 1: of the game. They've got jabronies like like, I mean,
Speaker 1: the Chargers had to go for it on fourth and short,
Speaker 1: fourth and long, like as a offense that doesn't have
Speaker 1: a complete scoring attack, and they still come out of
Speaker 1: here with a wipeout. That's two weeks now, that is
Speaker 1: a major disadvantage. If your opponent's kicker is removed two
Speaker 1: weeks in a row, that happens in Dallas's favor and
Speaker 1: they get destroyed. But we're lucky that this game was
Speaker 1: as close as they gave up teen yards. I mean,
Speaker 1: defense show. It was a no show. But and I
Speaker 1: it should be mentioned that Zack Martin, who's an All
Speaker 1: Pro guard, he left the game with a concussion in
Speaker 1: the first half. So there's still that line is kind
Speaker 1: of it's not all there, right yea. But I just honestly,
Speaker 1: I can't I can't say it enough. I think there
Speaker 1: may be a time where Dak Prescott can pick up
Speaker 1: his team the way of Russell Wilson can, But I
Speaker 1: think he's not there yet, or maybe he won't be there.
Speaker 1: But ever, but right not like this is this is
Speaker 1: what we expect. This is what happens to every quarterback.
Speaker 1: This is what happens to Aaron Rodgers in the middle
Speaker 1: of basically every season over the last couple of season,
Speaker 1: where you have a couple of plays. It's how Dak.
Speaker 1: I'm not, but I'm saying it's ups and downs. This
Speaker 1: is what's happened to every quarterback ever, essentially, And Dak
Speaker 1: has had an incredible start to his career and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of issues around him, and you're right, he's
Speaker 1: not able to lift the team up by himself. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that's basically happened with every quarterback in history,
Speaker 1: and he was overdue to have some speed bumps and
Speaker 1: now we've hit it. I think you're absolutely right, but
Speaker 1: I would I would put myself in the category of
Speaker 1: being a little surprised by the not able to lift
Speaker 1: up the team to the extent that he's not been
Speaker 1: able to. I mean, it's like the offense fell off
Speaker 1: a cliff and it's only because you're missing your running back.
Speaker 1: At this point, Dez Bryant is twenty nine years old,
Speaker 1: but he's an issue for the team, so they need
Speaker 1: to decide whatever. I don't know what it's Larry Fitzgerald.
Speaker 1: Bryan talks like he's Larry Fitzgerald. Where are you? Your
Speaker 1: key players are Jason Witten and Dez Bryant, who are
Speaker 1: well passed, not that upset, are well passed where they
Speaker 1: should be. And then your defense, Your defense had a
Speaker 1: no show. I mean Hunter Henry. I love watching this
Speaker 1: guy play. He's making huge places on the field. Keenan Allen.
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is throwing darts. I have I have a
Speaker 1: very seven interceptions. Have a proposal. What got Cowboys Lions
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving tradition? That's fine? How about a new tradition? I
Speaker 1: like Phil Rivers plays on Thanksgiving every year? This might
Speaker 1: be I think it would be worth it. And if
Speaker 1: he changed his team, then then the team that he
Speaker 1: goes to plays on thanks It's worth it just to
Speaker 1: have that picture happy Thanksgiving from the Rivers family. And
Speaker 1: you got all you got, You got the kid, and
Speaker 1: you know what else you got. You got a twenty
Speaker 1: eight to six score in the fourth quarter and they
Speaker 1: pick up a third and five, and you got Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers pumping this this maniacally like he's tiger with just
Speaker 1: winning the Masters because he picked up a third and
Speaker 1: five with three regis up out of his seat. That's
Speaker 1: what we need on the holidays. Did today that Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers thirty years from now and and everyone makes fun
Speaker 1: of him, Oh, you have eight kids? What a joke. Well,
Speaker 1: by the way, thirty years from now, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: he's gonna be overlooking to see with about a hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty two grandchildren surrounding him. I think he's figured
Speaker 1: it out. Well, he's gonna be surrounded by love for
Speaker 1: the rest of his life. Counterpoint, as all the men
Speaker 1: in this room right now, smash Her behind the glass
Speaker 1: can concern snasht Snasher is the central figure of wisdom.
Speaker 1: So I'm waiting for the way and well, we're all
Speaker 1: on the same boat. We all have two kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you could be surrounded by two kids in
Speaker 1: the ground. Let's calm down, let's shut it down at eight.
Speaker 1: We don't There's a lot of people in this world,
Speaker 1: and I know the Rivers family can afford to take
Speaker 1: care of all these kids. That's the difference. But let's
Speaker 1: just you know, let's enjoy this hive that we've got.
Speaker 1: All I'd say is, if you're Philip Rivers, you have
Speaker 1: multimillions of dollars that you are not in there dealing
Speaker 1: with the grit of raising eight kids. Let's winning, keep winning, Chargers,
Speaker 1: because your schedule is doable. I'm at they're my sc
Speaker 1: super Bowl team, and I'm they have these people that
Speaker 1: came at me and laughing in September fifteenth, laugh, laugh, laugh, giggle,
Speaker 1: Sit down. I'm saying you were laughing at yourself. You
Speaker 1: were out on that pick. By September, I'm back in
Speaker 1: on my own picks, and everyone everyone opposed me. Watch
Speaker 1: your body is burned. They were body is gonna burn. Gosh,
Speaker 1: they were owing for if they hadn't blown that that
Speaker 1: Jaguars game, Like they Okay, sorry, you gotta move on,
Speaker 1: you to move on. But yes, we got to move
Speaker 1: on to the most important contest. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: The Chargers are five and six, which is still bad,
Speaker 1: but in and they got your Browns. Next week. Let's
Speaker 1: get to six and six the Redskins, which is a
Speaker 1: coin flip at the Chiefs at the Jets home to Raiders.
Speaker 1: That's how they close out their season. That's a great
Speaker 1: schedule because you don't have great it is great. You
Speaker 1: don't play one. You don't play one playoff. You don't
Speaker 1: play one team that's playing well. You play a couple
Speaker 1: of middle of the pack teams. If you can't be
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and Redskins, you're probably not a playoff have
Speaker 1: the time. The Chargers aren't playing well, So let's say
Speaker 1: they win four of those games. Because it's not a
Speaker 1: hard ask. It's not an easy ask either, it's not,
Speaker 1: it's not all. It's also not our privilege to ask.
Speaker 1: Do what you will do. Let's move up second to
Speaker 1: night play action, tons of time to the end zone
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. Kirk Cousins through a pixel X. But
Speaker 1: guess what. He also threw two touchdowns, including the game
Speaker 1: ceiling throw uh in the fourth quarter to Josh Josh
Speaker 1: doxon a ten win over the New York Giants. The
Speaker 1: Redskins keep their faint playoff hopes alive. They're now five
Speaker 1: and six. Uh the Giants, of course, long ago Mark
Speaker 1: stopped being a playoff contender there two and nine, So
Speaker 1: here's this game. Good job, Redskins, no lollipops being handed out,
Speaker 1: found a way to beat the Giants by the way
Speaker 1: it was ten ten late in this game. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna go crazy. However, you're still the d NA, the
Speaker 1: bones of a team that can make a run here,
Speaker 1: don't you think, uh what the Redskins in Tennessee. It's
Speaker 1: tight because like that it's such a top heavy conference
Speaker 1: in the a f C. They don't have seven losses,
Speaker 1: yet they would adore I'd adore them in the a
Speaker 1: f C and the NFC. It's tough. This game was rough.
Speaker 1: This was a game where twenty minutes into this affair,
Speaker 1: the Redskins had three yards rushing and a at halftime,
Speaker 1: Eli Manning had sixty yards passing. And I'm sitting there
Speaker 1: in my house asking why should I be fawning over
Speaker 1: this contest. It was a quintessential ugly football game. It's
Speaker 1: but the Redskins win these type of games. Quintessential Giants
Speaker 1: Redskins game, Yes it was. Collinsworth made the point that
Speaker 1: he feels like every Giant's Redskins game has been like
Speaker 1: and it's true, like they're always one on punt returns.
Speaker 1: It reminded me a lot of the Week seventeen game,
Speaker 1: which is the last year, which is the game that
Speaker 1: made me jump off the Kirk Cousins bandwagon had one
Speaker 1: of his worst games of his career, lost I think
Speaker 1: what was a sixteen to ten very similar game in Washington.
Speaker 1: This time though, he's got a little more uh fight
Speaker 1: to him in terms of when the pass rush gets
Speaker 1: on him. He's making plays against pressure, and they're starting
Speaker 1: to run the ball. P Ryan has looked pretty good
Speaker 1: the last three weeks or so, and so at least
Speaker 1: they have a running game, which they didn't early in
Speaker 1: the year. This was a game that forced me to
Speaker 1: ask what am I doing with my adulthood? But it
Speaker 1: waged on and the result was no, I know, but
Speaker 1: the result of result occurred in the end, and I'm
Speaker 1: happy for Washington on some level. Uh. And you know, again,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go crazy about the Redskins finding a
Speaker 1: way in this game. It was a little bit alarming
Speaker 1: actually that they doubled them up in total yardage. They
Speaker 1: were they looked like total yards a little more than me.
Speaker 1: I mean, I saw a ten ten game and both
Speaker 1: teams kind of, you know, battling it out down the
Speaker 1: stretch and Eli Manning, you take away Odell Beckham and
Speaker 1: this is a compromised Eli Manning at age thirty seven.
Speaker 1: Already you're thirty six, and sure Sterling Shepherd and Brandon
Speaker 1: can I yeah, just let me let me finish that
Speaker 1: I'm beginning, okay. And then you take Odell Beckham out,
Speaker 1: you take Sterling Shepherd out, who, by the way, was
Speaker 1: a guy that was shaping up as a guy that
Speaker 1: could be a nice little number one down the stretch
Speaker 1: of meaningless football. What's left? What's left? So it's like
Speaker 1: zero running games. If you're a team the Redskins, you
Speaker 1: need to win this game. So I'm not gonna give
Speaker 1: him too much credit. At the same time, it's like
Speaker 1: this is kind of like this is easy pickings and
Speaker 1: it makes you it is. How broken are the Chiefs
Speaker 1: that they I mean, the Giants had one touchdown against
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. They had no touchdowns tonight. Only Genera's Jenkins
Speaker 1: scored a touchdowns. I mean they That's why I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know. The Redskins often should have not made
Speaker 1: as many mistakes. I mean that sequence where they lined
Speaker 1: up to punt the ball on fourth and one. Then
Speaker 1: Gruden decided to change his mind, I guess because the
Speaker 1: crowd was booing him, so he took a time out,
Speaker 1: and then he didn't get to play in fast enough,
Speaker 1: so they took a de lay a game. I mean,
Speaker 1: this stuff happens to Washington all the time. They shoot
Speaker 1: themselves in the foot. That said, the defense gave up
Speaker 1: seven first downs. The Giants didn't have a first down
Speaker 1: in the entire second half until a garbage time drive
Speaker 1: where I think they got one. And Eli Manning doesn't
Speaker 1: have his weapons, but he's also just just taken some
Speaker 1: sacks on some plays where you gotta get the ball out.
Speaker 1: And there was a third down when they still had
Speaker 1: a chance in this game where he just threw a
Speaker 1: ball into a wide open throat. No one's in his
Speaker 1: face at all, and he threw a ball into a
Speaker 1: ground and and Collinsworth was kind of dumbfounded. This was
Speaker 1: one of the worst Eli mann In games we've seen.
Speaker 1: It was a stre in game one. One guy that
Speaker 1: we never talked about because he's not Lawrence Taylor, but
Speaker 1: Ryan Carrigan. I feel like every time I watch a
Speaker 1: Redskins game, he shows up. He's having a great season.
Speaker 1: Two sacks tonight. He just seems to always be around
Speaker 1: the quarterback and he's a big part of their defense,
Speaker 1: and I would say the one thing about the Redskins
Speaker 1: I'm not saying tonight is the quintessential example of that.
Speaker 1: But Scott McCluin, I'll say this again that he brought
Speaker 1: some pieces to this team, and when they show up,
Speaker 1: it's the pieces he brought. I just think that Scott McCluin.
Speaker 1: I kind of love this guy. I think he is
Speaker 1: a great talent evaluator. They got flushed out, I understanding
Speaker 1: got flushed out of this team and for reasons they
Speaker 1: found reasonable. But his pieces are what make the Redskins
Speaker 1: who they are now. They have to they well, listen,
Speaker 1: it's not a perfect thing. He did not get it.
Speaker 1: He didn't get five years to build this team either.
Speaker 1: But they are a tough football team. They've been that
Speaker 1: week after week, no matter when or lose. They've been
Speaker 1: a rigorous, strange team. And he is the reason they
Speaker 1: are one of the better cornerback trios in the league.
Speaker 1: When Kendall Fuller is having a great season as a
Speaker 1: slot corner and then you have Norman and Brelan on
Speaker 1: the outside, I think those are all guys. It's a
Speaker 1: nice group. One other player that I think Josh Dockson,
Speaker 1: who a lot of people kind of thought about him is.
Speaker 1: He's on the fabled him as like a La Kwan
Speaker 1: Treadwell type first round Bus draft. Dawson's making plays every week.
Speaker 1: You set up one score with the past interference, have
Speaker 1: the game winning touchdown. He is making plays in the
Speaker 1: week after week. And the Terrell Prior signing was a bust. Well,
Speaker 1: but somebody else to step up and Dotson became. Dotson
Speaker 1: gives you some some things that you would have wanted
Speaker 1: from Terrell Prior than not the exact same player, but better.
Speaker 1: I think he is, and he's younger, and he's think
Speaker 1: he's they have him under long term you know contract
Speaker 1: to Prior's out the door. I'm not sure what stopped
Speaker 1: him other than injuries, and I guess it probably is
Speaker 1: just injuries. But when you watch him, the way he
Speaker 1: moves and the way he can get deep balls, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's got the skill set to be a top ten
Speaker 1: type of They missed Chris Thompson. The last here is
Speaker 1: the Redskins UH schedule going forward at Cowboys, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, all of a sudden doesn't look so scary.
Speaker 1: That's on Thursday night next week. So wet in primetime
Speaker 1: again at Chargers, so we get to see the Charges.
Speaker 1: That would be a good game. Home to Cardinals, home
Speaker 1: to Broncos, at Giants, so the road. There's schedule. I'll
Speaker 1: get you a nine of ten wins if you just
Speaker 1: take care of some business. Wow, could they Could they
Speaker 1: be the team for the third Could the Redskins take
Speaker 1: the fork out of their back for what I believe
Speaker 1: would be the third time? I don't know. If I
Speaker 1: had to guess, they will that many. You get excited
Speaker 1: about them, they're gonna break your heart, right. The one
Speaker 1: thing if I had to guess, because we were we
Speaker 1: played it fairly safe with the forks this year, they
Speaker 1: were they would probably be the team if if I
Speaker 1: looked at the fork teams that we've done, that would
Speaker 1: have the best chance, just because I think they're decent. Oh,
Speaker 1: can we fork the Cowboys? It's too late. The deadline
Speaker 1: is after Thanksgiving. Get the Cowboys out of here. And
Speaker 1: I think we accidentally forgot that we had forked the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: So I believe that gives us fifteen forks, which I
Speaker 1: love to get to sixteen. I love to get half
Speaker 1: the league. But we got fifteen this year, the respectable
Speaker 1: on our part Redskins are gonna bang us though, and
Speaker 1: I like it. There's a lot of needy organizations in
Speaker 1: the d C area, so that's not a bad thing. Hey.
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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving episode. I hope everyone enjoyed it. We'll be back
Speaker 1: Sunday night our flagship program where we will break down. Okay,
Speaker 1: six teams played today, six divided by two three I
Speaker 1: can't see take away. I'm lost third team games to
Speaker 1: talk about, No more buys. That was a mess, and
Speaker 1: the way to do it just just saying your sixteen games.
Speaker 1: You can just start there and then take away the
Speaker 1: three from today. One of the great things about the
Speaker 1: late season, like the buys have been removed from our lives,
Speaker 1: so there's more games and many involved teams that are
Speaker 1: far out of competition, far out of our lives. We
Speaker 1: get a lot of trash bags playing football games every Sunday,
Speaker 1: so indulge yourselves, enjoy very good. Mark, always a vocal
Speaker 1: advocate of the game. Yes, lindsay, happy Thanksgiving, Happy Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1: Are you working on some pecan pie? Back there? You're
Speaker 1: here at work for thanks What flavor? What flavor? Winter green?
Speaker 1: Did they feed you here? Yeah? It was great? The
Speaker 1: food was really it is a very nice spread here,
Speaker 1: very nice Thanksgiving meal they offer very good getting ready
Speaker 1: to go shopping? Thin? Greg? You um Mark, you're a
Speaker 1: food to terian. Of course? What do you eat on Thanksgiving?
Speaker 1: I literally, while I was home today covering the early game,
Speaker 1: I ordered Indian food yesterday and it was too much,
Speaker 1: too eating full, So I I just simply ate the leftovers.
Speaker 1: I don't left over Indian food for Thanksgiving. My family
Speaker 1: is up north. It was it was a sparse way.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. There's three separate meals today. I
Speaker 1: guess breakfast. You ate your normal breakfast or whatever. I
Speaker 1: ate no breakfast, So it was the leftover Indian. That
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like three meals worth of food. I don't
Speaker 1: eat three meals a day. I don't even know where
Speaker 1: that that feels like. It's like what kind of person
Speaker 1: still sits down and it's like three complete meals a day,
Speaker 1: like I ate I was at my house, I ate
Speaker 1: one meal, I ate like a little bit of Indian
Speaker 1: food in the middle of the day, dealing with like
Speaker 1: two and a half football games that I could. For
Speaker 1: a man very concerned with health matters. In some aspects,
Speaker 1: this seems like a strange tank. I also I also
Speaker 1: listen on Thanksgiving. What can you do about food? Nothing?
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