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Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by a
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Speaker 1: show today our Tuesday Show. So much to get to.
Speaker 1: In fact, I want to tell you what's coming up
Speaker 1: today Monday Night football recap Um tough times to the
Speaker 1: Throne of Ease uh in Miami. Uh so the uh
Speaker 1: that game. We will get into what happened to the
Speaker 1: Patriots someone football. Also, I'm gonna get into the latest
Speaker 1: news and of course the Carson Wentz situation. Uh. Connie,
Speaker 1: I'll give you credit, your spirits are pretty high considering
Speaker 1: all that happen, and we'll get into well, get into it.
Speaker 1: But I've been waiting for something like this terrible to happen.
Speaker 1: I was record on that and it's been a while.
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Speaker 1: did like a seventy five second Cardi B freestyle right
Speaker 1: before the show. And we're one of these years. Recently
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Speaker 1: a little Cardi B comes out. I'll do it. That's
Speaker 1: you know, Jewel goes there. I was I've watched Cuba, gooding.
Speaker 1: Junior was there last week apparently. Yeah you got Kristen,
Speaker 1: my friend Kristen who I used to live with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was there and she said she ran into Cuba. Cuba, Cuba,
Speaker 1: getting Junior. I don't know alright anyway, Yeah, so much
Speaker 1: to get to. So let's dig in. Starting yes with
Speaker 1: Monday night football. He has plenty of time and always
Speaker 1: try and at cercepton second of the night by Xavian
Speaker 1: Howard is fourth in the last two games, looking for
Speaker 1: clockers and runs out of bounds as he crossed midfield.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady intercepted two times by Xavien Howard. Oh nice
Speaker 1: little two week stretch for the Baylor product. And um
Speaker 1: the Patriots never converted a third down as the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins UH snapped the Patriots eight game winning streak eight
Speaker 1: to twenty victory at Miami Gardens at hard Rock. Um.
Speaker 1: So yes, Greg mhm um the Patriots fall to tenant three.
Speaker 1: They've lost their first game on the road, and I
Speaker 1: believe it was what eighteen games fourteen straight? Uh. Not
Speaker 1: the most crushing loss for the Patriots because if they
Speaker 1: beat the Steelers next week, everything seems a okay for
Speaker 1: getting that first seed. But there's some troubling signs here. Yes, no,
Speaker 1: maybe so absolutely, because there was a thorough beat down.
Speaker 1: The final score was very misleading. The Dolphins were significantly better. Now,
Speaker 1: you can say, strange things happen sometimes you play a
Speaker 1: team twice in three weeks. I think Adam Gaze and
Speaker 1: his defensive coordinator Matt Burke deserve a lot of credit
Speaker 1: for coaching circles around the Patriots. They had a really
Speaker 1: good game plan, especially on offense. But the problems that
Speaker 1: you saw with New England I think have been bubbling
Speaker 1: up for a few weeks. Number One, they don't have
Speaker 1: great protection to Tom Brady's taking a ton of hits.
Speaker 1: He's also six times he was sacked last night. He's
Speaker 1: missing practice, you know, I think that's pretty significant, an
Speaker 1: entire practice for an achilles injury. And then number two,
Speaker 1: someone named you know in this room, who's the best
Speaker 1: player in the Patriots front seven that played last night?
Speaker 1: That you name a player in the front page, I
Speaker 1: can name the players that they were missing. They were
Speaker 1: without a bunch of players on both sides. Flowers was out.
Speaker 1: They He's been great for the past month. I mean
Speaker 1: he played two games he was an undrafted guy that
Speaker 1: joined the team two weeks ago. To your point, though
Speaker 1: they're lacking star power in the front seven, they I
Speaker 1: mean not just star power, but guys that you were
Speaker 1: even in the role like a month ago, uh or
Speaker 1: or have ever been in a situation like this, Like
Speaker 1: I think at some point that catches up. And they
Speaker 1: were missing their two key players, Kyle van Noy and
Speaker 1: Trey Flowers, and at some point, I think that's gonna
Speaker 1: catch up. When you play, you look at the box score,
Speaker 1: and if you didn't watch the game, you would have
Speaker 1: thought that they flipped the teams because New England, who
Speaker 1: has been the one thing they have been week to week,
Speaker 1: you be able to use their running backs in so
Speaker 1: many diverse ways, and it's team it's guy. It's one
Speaker 1: guy this week, it's Rex Burke had the next it's
Speaker 1: Stean Lewis yards on the ground. I feel like Miami
Speaker 1: just came out with a much more physical game. Miami
Speaker 1: just ran through them all night. They were all over
Speaker 1: Tom Brady that the defense was but I mean, look
Speaker 1: at Xavin Howard, what a great game he had. He
Speaker 1: completely shut down Brandon Cooks. He had the two interceptions,
Speaker 1: and look at his last two games. He has four
Speaker 1: interston He he really looked good. He was tighten coverage.
Speaker 1: And let's go to Jake Color. Now, I mean Jake Color,
Speaker 1: a guy that's career is supposed to be over, and
Speaker 1: we've all had a lot of fun at Jay's expense.
Speaker 1: He outplayed Tom Brady and it wasn't even close. And
Speaker 1: he really, let's be honest, she had four touchdowns if
Speaker 1: not for a drop by him Jackie Grant, that would
Speaker 1: have put the game away. Um. He played extremely well,
Speaker 1: was careful with the football, um with the except there
Speaker 1: was only one j culor moment where he opted not
Speaker 1: to run for a first down and instead through an
Speaker 1: incomplete pass that kept the Patriots in business a little
Speaker 1: bit longer. But in general, this was a really really
Speaker 1: vintage When I say vintage vintage good because there was
Speaker 1: good Jay Cutler once pon a time where two that
Speaker 1: realm early mean his second year for the Broncos. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that was a six or seven. He
Speaker 1: was He was awesome, fun to watch. It was a
Speaker 1: weird feeling watching this because I was obviously disappointed as
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan, but there was a part of me
Speaker 1: that has loved the J. Cutler experience throughout his career,
Speaker 1: and this is almost certainly his last prime time game,
Speaker 1: and it just felt like a very J Cutler thing
Speaker 1: to randomly go out on file at Patriots up and down.
Speaker 1: You're just like, what what does happen? And and as
Speaker 1: as much as they outplayed the Patriots, they deserve a
Speaker 1: lot of the credit. Sometimes it takes great performances to
Speaker 1: win these games, and you just assume the Patriots were bad,
Speaker 1: and they were bad. But Davian Howard those interceptions were incredible.
Speaker 1: Jachim Grants touchdown was incredible. Kenyan Drake has been far
Speaker 1: in a way better than J j I. E ever
Speaker 1: was in Miami this year. And so those guys deserve
Speaker 1: credit to Spin for beating spin move that's set up
Speaker 1: the third Dolphins touchdown. They said on the telecast it
Speaker 1: was Barry sanders esk. It was so Jgi who hasn't
Speaker 1: had a huge impact in Philly either. That trade is
Speaker 1: looking really good for Miami, who got a younger player
Speaker 1: involved with better knees and all that. There's no facts
Speaker 1: behind this, but I feel like had this game like
Speaker 1: happened at one p m. E Stern anonymously on a Sunday,
Speaker 1: New England wins the game. I I I, and then
Speaker 1: you somehow putting the Dolphins in these incredible uniforms from years.
Speaker 1: It's just something about the whole energy of the game
Speaker 1: felt but pro Miami from the very beginning. We talked
Speaker 1: about this last week that it's a real thing that
Speaker 1: Patriots historically in the Brady era have struggled in Miami.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's something that the numbers back up and
Speaker 1: we saw it again. It's just a weird thing, and
Speaker 1: it's not just a yeah. In fact, let's let's let's
Speaker 1: hear from Bill Belichick, by the way, who the game ended.
Speaker 1: Miami actually got a first thing goal from the one
Speaker 1: foot line with about a minute to play. They had
Speaker 1: a time out in their pocket and they were unable
Speaker 1: to punch it in, settled for a field goal, so
Speaker 1: they're down seven points. On side up, failed to get it,
Speaker 1: and Stephen Gaskowsky then attempts of really bizarre on sidekick
Speaker 1: where you just kind of squibs it, uh like, kind
Speaker 1: of almost lackadaisically. I think it was a purpose I
Speaker 1: was trying to a sneak attack. I don't know, what
Speaker 1: was going done at two or three times? It never works.
Speaker 1: It's always as embarrassing as this over the last like
Speaker 1: three or four years. And speaking of Belichick, UM not
Speaker 1: in the best mood. Bill is not usually in a
Speaker 1: great mood in the postgame presser, but especially after a
Speaker 1: lot not typically, but after I lost, Like next level.
Speaker 1: One reporter was brave enough to ask if perhaps the
Speaker 1: Patriots are kind of looking past the Dolphins with a
Speaker 1: huge matchup against the Steelers on deck, let's see what happened.
Speaker 1: I think any of the guys might have been looking
Speaker 1: at the next week or from past. My m that
Speaker 1: was give me a break where you hear or God,
Speaker 1: I kind of love it to give me a break?
Speaker 1: Under his breath is definitely he's so condescending to reporters.
Speaker 1: I would hate to cover the Patriots. I I really
Speaker 1: think it's it's it's almost uncomfortable watch. It is condescending.
Speaker 1: But to me, it's more that he's hollowed out Dan
Speaker 1: you you said detached at some point that football is
Speaker 1: everything to him and when they lose, it's like he's
Speaker 1: an empty vessel. He has like he there's like he's
Speaker 1: not even there. And I've seen it after like the Superanah.
Speaker 1: But he's also growing shade and everybody's big glosses and
Speaker 1: he's just like, that's like the only thing he can
Speaker 1: muster up is that I agree with you, but it's
Speaker 1: a weird thing to look at. I agree with you,
Speaker 1: But that also dismisses the idea that thirty one other
Speaker 1: head coaches that football is maybe just fifty of their life.
Speaker 1: They don't care as much as Bill Belichick. No, you
Speaker 1: have media responsibilities. Yeah, I mean I'm over it. I'm
Speaker 1: over at Belichick. I don't like how everybody laughs and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, look at the way that he treats everybody,
Speaker 1: Like crap. I'm just saying, I don't like that. I
Speaker 1: don't like that relationship. I don't like that die And
Speaker 1: I think he knows in his heart that that's the
Speaker 1: worst December performance they've had in a long long time.
Speaker 1: And I don't think it was totally random. I know
Speaker 1: we've been saying on this podcast, like clear the Road,
Speaker 1: they're just gonna do it, And there's part of me that,
Speaker 1: as a Patriots fan, is hoping for that. But if
Speaker 1: you look back, they played terribly against Miami two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: there were certainly issues buffal I know they ended up
Speaker 1: winning that game, but if you watch it was a
Speaker 1: lot of crazy. We've had bad halves. There's things that
Speaker 1: have been happening on that team that I don't think
Speaker 1: it means they're they're a bad team, But I just
Speaker 1: think it means they're one of the many teams that
Speaker 1: has a chance to win the Super Bowl and they're
Speaker 1: just But if you're the Steelers, do you could you
Speaker 1: pick a worse scenario than having to face New England
Speaker 1: after they come off a disappointing loss. I agree with
Speaker 1: that there's still an extremely heavy favorite. Almost anybody that
Speaker 1: follows the game sees the Patriots is a heavy favorite,
Speaker 1: not just another team in the mix. I I hear you,
Speaker 1: and I know metrics aren't everything, but like when I
Speaker 1: see them, for instance in Football Outide in terms of
Speaker 1: their team efficiency, that they were the seventh team in
Speaker 1: the league going into this week before of this perform,
Speaker 1: that doesn't shock me watching them week to week. I
Speaker 1: think they've overachieved. I think Belichick has done incredible job.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're a heavy favorite in Pittsburgh. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're a favorite at all. I think at best,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a coin flip game versus two teams
Speaker 1: that have both had some issues lately. They're gonna have
Speaker 1: to shut down Pittsburgh's offense. That is gonna be tough
Speaker 1: with the way they played lest night. Mark, let's um
Speaker 1: talk about you. You seem to be enjoying the game
Speaker 1: quite a bit according to your Twitter feed. Very controversial.
Speaker 1: Some of your comments. We want to just maybe just
Speaker 1: read them back if you happen to not catch it. Uh,
Speaker 1: do you want to read them or do you want
Speaker 1: me to read them for you? I feel like I've
Speaker 1: had Okay, here's what here's Mark had to say during
Speaker 1: the game. Patriots fans given a glimpse Can we get
Speaker 1: some type of music in here? Patriots fans given a
Speaker 1: glimpse of the bone black future, a time when self
Speaker 1: absorbed mass holes vicariously seeing themselves as many Belichick's in
Speaker 1: workplace and life awakened to an earth reality where New
Speaker 1: England gets throttled weekly and you must survive. Who dark?
Speaker 1: What also? We got there? We got anything else? People
Speaker 1: from New England did not enjoy that tweet. I'm discovering
Speaker 1: today that Patriots fans aren't comfortable losing games in December.
Speaker 1: Let's this is a separate sweet. Let's ponder how that
Speaker 1: might feel for the most dangerously self entitled, self obsessed
Speaker 1: fan base on the ORB. How will they endure? Will
Speaker 1: they hang? And last one, how quaint, small and shriveling
Speaker 1: it all becomes when your sports team suffers. Suddenly you
Speaker 1: aren't the smartest human in your insignificant workplace. Suddenly your
Speaker 1: so called takes don't hold up Earth's infrastructure. What a
Speaker 1: stunner Mark first of All, Bravo Trilogy, Lindsay's Excellence Behind
Speaker 1: the Glass um Mark Bravo first of All. But it
Speaker 1: has not gone too well in your mentions A little
Speaker 1: r I pace Areo for you. It's as the show proceeds,
Speaker 1: I'm actively blocking people because I don't want a problem
Speaker 1: with them saying, Hey, I hate your take, I hate
Speaker 1: what you said. Leave us alone. We don't You don't
Speaker 1: understand Patriots fans, but some people. I I logged into
Speaker 1: Instagram this morning and people are ripping my family members
Speaker 1: and other stuff. I said, you're kind of proving my
Speaker 1: point a little bit with that reaction. But I went
Speaker 1: adam hard and I understand, Uh, you know, look at
Speaker 1: I respect the Patriots enough over the years. Greg knows that,
Speaker 1: and I I I'm a little excited to watch a
Speaker 1: different type of result. Lasts fans, he likes, he likes
Speaker 1: Gregg's and Greg is not. Greg is not. I would
Speaker 1: say Marcus mixed feelings about Greg at that. But no,
Speaker 1: you're not a typical Patriots fan, though you are, and
Speaker 1: that's what I wouldn't even put you in the pots.
Speaker 1: That's a separate issue. But it's always It is always fun,
Speaker 1: whether you hate the Patriots or not, just a little
Speaker 1: bit more fun when the Patriots are facing some adverse.
Speaker 1: We see these comments in some form another every single
Speaker 1: Monday night. The only difference is Mark put it on
Speaker 1: Twitter instead of a group text. Some of it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I one day will release a book of Mark's texts
Speaker 1: about the Steelers from this season, and it will it
Speaker 1: will blow the lid off society the text themselves, Like
Speaker 1: I love when I somehow get on these chains and
Speaker 1: then I will get a Mark Sessler text that is,
Speaker 1: you just have to continue scrolling and scrolling and scrolling
Speaker 1: and then just end with a blue butterfly emotions. I
Speaker 1: like like like sometimes like my wife and I are
Speaker 1: wrapping up dinner on a Friday night and suddenly I
Speaker 1: look and wait, there's thirty eight. I have been actively
Speaker 1: working to calm down on that tendency. But uh, anyway,
Speaker 1: well done, Mark, Let's do some news. I look in NBA,
Speaker 1: NFL Baseball, and nobody's seen seen that Brama hat. So
Speaker 1: I wanted to put the first one, you know, behind
Speaker 1: the scenes with the Brima sess you've seen it here. First,
Speaker 1: Cam Newton Brema's hat. Okay, off, it looks like a
Speaker 1: member like the Masonic lodge. Yeah. It was his campaign speech.
Speaker 1: The yes, the dreaded possibility became official for the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: Eagles on Monday. UH Eagles coach Doug Peterson confirmed that
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz Indeed, UH did suffer a season ending knee injury,
Speaker 1: tearing his a c L and his left knee in
Speaker 1: Phillies forty five win over the Rams in UM Week fourteen.
Speaker 1: UH wins will undergo surgery and hopefully be ready for
Speaker 1: the start of next season. UH. The big surprise I
Speaker 1: guess that came from Peterson's press conference was that the
Speaker 1: injury did not come when he got hit by two
Speaker 1: players at once, as he crossed the goal line, but
Speaker 1: when he planted his leg, I guess um before he
Speaker 1: made that dive, which you know, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: just one of those things. It's just one of those things.
Speaker 1: How do you avoid it? And it's just very depressing.
Speaker 1: Connie will start with you. Um, actually, I want to
Speaker 1: let's set you up this way, Connie. All through this
Speaker 1: incredible Eagle season. Uh, and there's still a lot to
Speaker 1: be excited about despite this, as you know. But we
Speaker 1: had been checking the temperature of Connie Fox to see
Speaker 1: where you were. In fact, after I think it was
Speaker 1: a particularly it was the Monday night breakout game by
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz earlier in this season, earlier in the season
Speaker 1: last month. Maybe, Um, we checked in with you. Here's
Speaker 1: what you had to say at that time. Super confident
Speaker 1: that every week now they're just gonna roll. No. No,
Speaker 1: because I've been hurt so many times by this team.
Speaker 1: It's like I can't it's hard for me to trust them.
Speaker 1: And they look so good and I keep saying myself,
Speaker 1: are they really this good? The Eagles are good? This
Speaker 1: is weird. I don't I don't feel comfortable. I'm waiting
Speaker 1: for fear, like a major catastrophic injury, injury injury. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, I've been waiting for this to happen. I
Speaker 1: knew what was going to happen. So this is gonna
Speaker 1: sound crazy there I did. I say, I felt like this.
Speaker 1: That was a great clip, I go ahead to go.
Speaker 1: I felt like this was going, this was coming. There
Speaker 1: have been several times in my life where I have
Speaker 1: I guess you would call it a Sussler, where I've
Speaker 1: had a bad feeling about things. My mom it's the
Speaker 1: same thing. She we both get bad feelings. It's never
Speaker 1: like something good. We never send something good is going
Speaker 1: to happen in the future, like I've gotten in two
Speaker 1: car accidents in my life, and I knew they were
Speaker 1: going to happen right before they happened, Like I got
Speaker 1: a feeling about it, like I sensed it. I swear
Speaker 1: to yeah. And my mom does the same thing under
Speaker 1: a couple of different times with different things. I and
Speaker 1: I felt this happening. I felt I knew it the
Speaker 1: whole time. This is why I couldn't get excited about
Speaker 1: the Eagles. I felt like there was going to be
Speaker 1: a massive injury, and I never wanted to say Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: but I felt like it was going to be at
Speaker 1: the quarterback position and it happened. So I feel bad
Speaker 1: for you all Eagles fans. I mean keeping finder that
Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty two is being played in a couple
Speaker 1: of months and the Eagles have never won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And this was by far in my life. There was
Speaker 1: some really good Andy Reid Donovan mc nab teams, but
Speaker 1: this team really seemed like the best team maybe in
Speaker 1: the last years. And now, what are you gonna do.
Speaker 1: It's Nick Foles or Bust, and probably bust, let's be honest,
Speaker 1: probably bust. I do think they have a chance to
Speaker 1: make the Super Bowl, and now I don't think they
Speaker 1: have a better chance than some other NFC teams, but
Speaker 1: I think they are one of you know, five or
Speaker 1: six teams that could make it. And they have one
Speaker 1: clear advantage, which is that I think they can get
Speaker 1: home field. First of all, they basically clinched buy on Sunday,
Speaker 1: so they're gonna have a home game in the divisional round.
Speaker 1: If you look at thee if they beat the if
Speaker 1: they beat the Giants, then they easy schedule coming up.
Speaker 1: Their next three games are Giants, Raiders, Cowboys. I think
Speaker 1: they can win all three of those with Nick Foles.
Speaker 1: We've seen Nick Foles in a highly schemed offense play
Speaker 1: pretty well, and this time he's got a great old line,
Speaker 1: a great the line, and a lot of things around him.
Speaker 1: So I think if they can get home field, they
Speaker 1: got a shot. That's all I'm saying. I agree with you,
Speaker 1: you're going to an experienced starter. I'm not saying he's
Speaker 1: a backup for a reason. But if he doesn't, if
Speaker 1: he doesn't get into a scenario where he's turning the
Speaker 1: ball over and killing them in certain situations, they can
Speaker 1: wind up at this point fourteen and two with the
Speaker 1: tiebreaker over the Rams, they will get home field advantage
Speaker 1: and we'll see where it goes from there. To be honest,
Speaker 1: like this is I feel more comfortable with this team now.
Speaker 1: This feels more like an Eagles team. Expectations are lower now,
Speaker 1: right because now you have Folls in there. They've had
Speaker 1: so many different injuries that they've been able to overcome.
Speaker 1: This is obviously so much different than Jason Peters going down,
Speaker 1: or you know, Darren Sprowles going down, or anybody else
Speaker 1: that they've had go down during the season. But he
Speaker 1: went anybody but Wentz. I thought. Kevin Clark, who writes
Speaker 1: for The Ringer, made a good point that, Yeah, if
Speaker 1: the Eagles do get to the super Bowl with Nick Foles,
Speaker 1: it's not so much because the Eagles are so good
Speaker 1: that they still make it. It would be kind of
Speaker 1: an indictment of the NFC and in general the the
Speaker 1: the league not having another team that could be what
Speaker 1: is clearly a compromised Philly team. I don't want to see.
Speaker 1: I don't want the super Bowl. If the Eagles win
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, it's like, oh God, that was
Speaker 1: an awful year. It's not even like the Eagles and
Speaker 1: Eagles fans would be able to like celebrate it that
Speaker 1: much because it would be like what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: everybody would be like take that stance, like oh God,
Speaker 1: what an awful year that my considered would be. They
Speaker 1: would sneak into the super Bowl and then get waxed
Speaker 1: in the game. And that's silly. Though, Case Keenum is
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback of the other favorite, Case Case Keenum.
Speaker 1: Can we see Nick Foles playing this offense before totally
Speaker 1: making value? He's He's gonna be a huge downgrade from
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, but he's been in this offense under Andy
Speaker 1: Reid for a while. He some of the run pass
Speaker 1: option stuff is similar to when he did well in
Speaker 1: the YPNY. I'm just saying, let's what's not silly is
Speaker 1: to say that the that the season has been incredibly
Speaker 1: soiled by star players going down, And I think that's
Speaker 1: the point that it all feels like a shadow of
Speaker 1: what we should be experiencing from the Eagles. And Colleen,
Speaker 1: you're an EmPATH, by the way, highly sensitive person. That's
Speaker 1: why you feel this thing. That's like the singer Lord.
Speaker 1: She sees music in colors, like in her brain. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: She's like, you might have those type of situations going on.
Speaker 1: I swear as my mom and I both have it.
Speaker 1: It's weird. It's a good lane to be and be
Speaker 1: the lord of n Yeah. Yeah, Hey, you're not the
Speaker 1: only You're not the only upset Eagles fan. Let's check
Speaker 1: in with some sports talk radio in the City of Brotherhood.
Speaker 1: We lived and died by Carson Wentz. We live and
Speaker 1: die by uh Doug Peterson. He's a riverboat gambler and
Speaker 1: Nick Wole commanded the game, but Doug is pass happy
Speaker 1: one the ball, Doug. I don't have confidence in Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson in his play calling anymore. He's two pass happy.
Speaker 1: I think the Evils are destined for great things still,
Speaker 1: despite Parson's injury, as bad as it could be. Well,
Speaker 1: I've been waiting for a championship for fifty seven year.
Speaker 1: I can't wait fifty seven more. Here are you guys
Speaker 1: gonna get sound from the Fanatic and not w I P? Really?
Speaker 1: Come on, a little little Philly burn, Yeah, w I
Speaker 1: P is the only station is that your old home?
Speaker 1: And the Fanatic is trash good. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: not not as good as w I pay good. That's
Speaker 1: on the record. Um. By the way, uh not the
Speaker 1: only quarterback uh injury. Josh McCown will miss the rest
Speaker 1: of the season with a broken left hand, and this
Speaker 1: is also sad, not at the same level in terms
Speaker 1: of the impact to the league, but Josh McCown is
Speaker 1: one of the good guys in football and was so
Speaker 1: close to finally getting through a full season healthy, having
Speaker 1: the best season of his career, and in true McCown
Speaker 1: fashion and true Jets fashion, with the cursed quarterback position,
Speaker 1: it is not a happy ending. McCown very emotional talking
Speaker 1: about uh, the bitter suite nature of his season. Let's
Speaker 1: let's check that out. It's it's just bucks, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we we started slow and trying to get
Speaker 1: back going and and uh, guys are fighting and uh
Speaker 1: and you know when you you can't be out there
Speaker 1: for you guys. I think it's that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: the hardest thing. And uh so it's just disappointing and
Speaker 1: um uh you know, I just hate that I went
Speaker 1: this way today. Real bummer. Mark. You remember last year
Speaker 1: when McCown went down with the Browns, he had a
Speaker 1: similarly emotional press conference. Yeah, I think at that point,
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's not young, and he was confronting
Speaker 1: the concept of will I be a starter again? Will
Speaker 1: ever play again? And everywhere the Josh McCown goes, and
Speaker 1: he's been to a lot of places, he leaves with
Speaker 1: people who cover the team or people who are his teammates,
Speaker 1: his coaches, saying, this is an unusual guy. For all
Speaker 1: the tedious personalities that we cover, this is a complete
Speaker 1: breath of fresh air in the NFL. And I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what one team is going to get him as
Speaker 1: a coach he's gonna become a great coach. They've been
Speaker 1: saying that about him for a long time. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: if they do go the route, UM, they're most likely
Speaker 1: going to draft a quarterback. I think the Jets, if
Speaker 1: they do go that route, if they can afford it
Speaker 1: and they can make it happen, I think Josh McCown
Speaker 1: being in the building would be a brilliant move to
Speaker 1: have somebody's a bridge guy. Slash mentor UM. I expect
Speaker 1: it at this point. See McCown and all of the
Speaker 1: injuries that happened this year, and it just makes Eli
Speaker 1: manning streak that he had so impressive when you take
Speaker 1: a step back and look at it. How do we
Speaker 1: protect these guys? Finally, one more bit of injury news
Speaker 1: with quarterbacks uh Tom Savage, who suffered that scary um
Speaker 1: concussion in the loss of the forty Niners. Um Bill O'Brien,
Speaker 1: the Texans coach, told reporters that Houston Houston's medical staff
Speaker 1: initially cleared Savage to return before the coach asked him
Speaker 1: to examine him a second time. And now the NFL
Speaker 1: announced that UM the league has initiated a joint investigation
Speaker 1: with the NFL Players Association into the handling of Savages concussions.
Speaker 1: So obviously that did not go the way it should
Speaker 1: have gone. Um and um too, I guess. In the
Speaker 1: defense of Bill O'Brien, Tom Savage said, I'm not allowed
Speaker 1: to talk to the media when I'm in concussion protocol,
Speaker 1: but he tweeted that O'Brien is one of those guys
Speaker 1: that really does care and look after his own players.
Speaker 1: This was just kind of an unfortunate situation. Just seeing
Speaker 1: the replay of that in the highlight and if you're
Speaker 1: watching the video show, you just did. But it is
Speaker 1: so upsetting to see what happens after the hit and
Speaker 1: when he's on the ground and he's just shaking. Too
Speaker 1: much time on these Tuesday shows talking about investigations in
Speaker 1: every week, there's an investigation. This is an investigation. We're
Speaker 1: not even mentioning that the the NFL is investigating, you know,
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, the end of that game situation and how
Speaker 1: that all went down. The Jaguars have been saying they're
Speaker 1: going to find those fans and not let them in
Speaker 1: the building against like the too many investigations, no more
Speaker 1: investigations of them, A lot of a lot of investigations.
Speaker 1: All right there, that's what's happening in the news. All
Speaker 1: right now, Uh yeah, we haven't done in a while.
Speaker 1: In fact, here I am dear old dad took Jackie Boy,
Speaker 1: my son, my three year old son to Rockos the
Speaker 1: bar and grill. Good place to take a little lunch. Um, well,
Speaker 1: it's not just it's not like one of the bars
Speaker 1: you go to Mark where it's just like a depressing
Speaker 1: hole in the wall. Everybody just gets drunk. Doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be a depressing How dare you talk about the
Speaker 1: cozy in that with like, don't do everyone's on their
Speaker 1: third year to two of you. The only thing I know,
Speaker 1: Colleen's on my side on the I am, I am
Speaker 1: on your high horses. Okay, everybody calmed down. I took
Speaker 1: my son to a bar and grill, and on the
Speaker 1: television above the bar, I was drinking um water. By
Speaker 1: the way, um was a ESPN program that was playing
Speaker 1: a game called What's more likely? Hey, you know what,
Speaker 1: Actually it wasn't What's more likely? It was more likely.
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, I see you you're thinking, because
Speaker 1: we haven't done it in a while, we're done and
Speaker 1: you could take our I p that's intellectual problem, Nabra.
Speaker 1: Not on this word Obra. So here we go, baby,
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Speaker 1: What's more likely more I feel like we needed an
Speaker 1: applause there, take it back, look at that. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go around the room twice. Knie. Let's start with you.
Speaker 1: I want to get both of yours in because you
Speaker 1: have that infernal production meeting. It's so important that you
Speaker 1: have to leave one of the most popular NFL podcasts
Speaker 1: in America early every show, I mean, talk about just
Speaker 1: internal just like what do you what do you call that?
Speaker 1: A bureaucracy? Just a labyrinth of nonsense. I did not
Speaker 1: set the meeting time, but I gotta go. But I
Speaker 1: do wave to you guys from my seat in the
Speaker 1: meeting when walk past the conference. Yeah, okay, so my
Speaker 1: first one here. Let me just let the audience. So,
Speaker 1: if you are new to the show, we are going
Speaker 1: to present two options, um the general plan. And maybe
Speaker 1: it wasn't clear with you yesterday, Colleen, so don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. Yours could be more open ended. Was as
Speaker 1: we look to the final three weeks of the regular season. Um,
Speaker 1: and either or game. You throw it out there and
Speaker 1: then the rest of us, uh, you know, decide which
Speaker 1: one is more likely. It's pretty basic, definitely not within
Speaker 1: the rules I ever heard of it. Here we go
Speaker 1: first up, take it back. So we're going to the
Speaker 1: postseason here, everybody shumping over these next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: A few weeks so the Vikings become the first team
Speaker 1: to play a Super Bowl at home, or the Jaguars
Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl. Yeah so uh, I mean, hey, look,
Speaker 1: both could actually happen because I feel like with the page,
Speaker 1: it's the way that they're playing right now. I don't
Speaker 1: think that they want to face the Jaguars with that defense,
Speaker 1: especially when we saw this past weekend and Blake Bortles
Speaker 1: he's actually playing a little bit better lately. So what
Speaker 1: you're asking, what's more likely, I would say this. I
Speaker 1: think the Jaguars, no matter where they end up the season,
Speaker 1: that fan base should be very excited about the future.
Speaker 1: They've got a lot of young players in house for
Speaker 1: years to come. I'm going with the Vikings because you've
Speaker 1: got a dominant defense. Still a little concerned about the
Speaker 1: offensive line. But you just saw the Eagles. We talked
Speaker 1: about it. They lost their star quarterback. The Vikings can
Speaker 1: get there, and there's a lot of motivation to play
Speaker 1: that super Bowl at home for the first time in
Speaker 1: NFL history. I wouldn't have said it until your boy
Speaker 1: Carson went down. Right now that the NFC is super
Speaker 1: wide open um, and I think anybody that qualifies for
Speaker 1: the playoffs in the NFC could conceivably end up playing
Speaker 1: in February. I will say the Viking is more likely
Speaker 1: than the ja that by will be huge to get
Speaker 1: from Minnesota, and it's not a sure thing considering their
Speaker 1: injuries in a pretty tough, relatively tough schedule coming out,
Speaker 1: especially Bear and Rodger to get back that they get
Speaker 1: to buy. But I gotta go with Minnesota. It's still
Speaker 1: Blake Bordles. We're talking about having to be either New
Speaker 1: England or Pittsburgh or possibly both, and I don't I
Speaker 1: just don't see that happening. They might Baltimore in the
Speaker 1: first round. Two, that's a dangerous wild card team. Minnesota's
Speaker 1: my easy choice. Alright, Mark, you're up. We didn't want
Speaker 1: to do a second one with Colleen. I think we
Speaker 1: haven't we saw ten minutes the show? Hello? Okay, uh,
Speaker 1: this one has multiple options, but it is a stretch
Speaker 1: run scenario. What's more likely John Fox survives the next
Speaker 1: three weeks and returns in, Marvin Lewis survives the next
Speaker 1: three weeks and returns in. Hugh Jackson survives the next
Speaker 1: three weeks and returns or none of them do, but
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson winds up as the Bengals coach. Wo Well,
Speaker 1: only one of these coaches actually has public ownership support.
Speaker 1: The catch there, of course, is that it's the Browns
Speaker 1: owner that's given the support. So you have to you
Speaker 1: have to devise how to like figure out how to
Speaker 1: dig into that. I don't know, I'm gonna say you though,
Speaker 1: I'll say you just because of the ownership. Okay, Hugh
Speaker 1: survives just because the owners said it. But I can
Speaker 1: happen in theory, this doesn't really go with the rules
Speaker 1: that you set up either, because it could this could
Speaker 1: go into February or something like that. All right, Greg,
Speaker 1: thank you for that alone. I just want to be
Speaker 1: precious time taking away with college. I will say it's
Speaker 1: more likely that they're all fired and that Hugh Jackson
Speaker 1: ends up in Cincinnati that I agree. It just feels
Speaker 1: like a thing that can happen in the year two
Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen. I don't think any of them. I
Speaker 1: think the Bengals owner may be higher on Hugh Jackson
Speaker 1: and the Brown zone. I think you're right on that.
Speaker 1: I kind of I like this prediction a lot. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's almost like a sandwich. Here's the thing, though,
Speaker 1: that the Browns have to lose out. I think if
Speaker 1: they win a game then it'll be tougher for Jimmy
Speaker 1: Haslem to go back on what he just said. But
Speaker 1: I think they will lose that felt. They play the
Speaker 1: Bears this week. The box and huge acton spears is
Speaker 1: a very winnable game. It's one of the worst teams
Speaker 1: in football. Yeah, the Hugh Jackson Cincinnati connection is obvious.
Speaker 1: But is it a possibility that a coach will go
Speaker 1: one in thirty one and pivot immediately into a new
Speaker 1: job at his old gig. I guess it's possible. I
Speaker 1: don't know that's This is a very Mike McCarthy coordinator
Speaker 1: of a one in fifteen team, not even a head coach,
Speaker 1: and he got the Packers. You can do it. Alright, alright,
Speaker 1: I'll go good one, guys, good a lot of good
Speaker 1: energy there, good post. What's more likely? Wrap up scenario
Speaker 1: by you? Din? All right, here we go, here's mine
Speaker 1: now these this is based on the last three weeks
Speaker 1: of the regular season. What's more likely the Eagles hold
Speaker 1: on to that number one seed or the Falcons missed
Speaker 1: the playoffs entirely? Oh okay, what's the Falcon schedule? Here?
Speaker 1: Pulling up the old playoff picture. I don't need to
Speaker 1: look at the schedule. I'll tell you what. I'll go Falcons,
Speaker 1: because we just talked about that Eagles schedule, and I
Speaker 1: think the Eagles are going to win home. You said
Speaker 1: home field advantage number one, keep it right? They that
Speaker 1: they keep it. They end up getting the number one
Speaker 1: seed at the end of the regular seeds. That's going
Speaker 1: I'm going there. I think the Eagles the Falcons configure
Speaker 1: schedule at Bucks for you have to choose which is
Speaker 1: more likely. That's the whole thing. The Eagles are more
Speaker 1: likely to keep home field advantage at Bucks. This is
Speaker 1: the Falcon schedule at Bucks home to say, excuse me,
Speaker 1: at Saints home to Panthers. Not an easy slate. The
Speaker 1: Saints and the Panthers that those last two games are
Speaker 1: going to be really tough for them. I think they
Speaker 1: I think they miss out on the plane they right
Speaker 1: now they are in the playoffs. If the postseason started
Speaker 1: tomorrow or even in like three seconds, postseason just started
Speaker 1: there and they would be the six seeds at eight
Speaker 1: and five. They have to figure out probably most likely
Speaker 1: a way to win two out of those three games
Speaker 1: at least. Yeah, that's the hope for those other you know,
Speaker 1: the seven and six Cowboys and Packers and everything. It's
Speaker 1: because the Falcons and Seahawks both have pretty tough schedules
Speaker 1: here and they could both fall out of it, and
Speaker 1: you that you can at least see a scenario with that.
Speaker 1: I'm going with the Eagles because the Vikings also have
Speaker 1: some tough games. I don't think it's a lock that
Speaker 1: they're going three and oh and can pass Philadelphia. I
Speaker 1: think it's home field advantage and maybe all that energy
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. God, and then what if they lose in
Speaker 1: that first game? You know, that's very fut I kind
Speaker 1: of can see that, like New Orleans goes there. It
Speaker 1: gives me a little flashbacks of although it was different
Speaker 1: because they didn't end up winning the division, but all
Speaker 1: the excitement around the Raiders last year and then they
Speaker 1: got to the playoffs there, so well, it's still fun
Speaker 1: to have the Raiders back. And then you watch the game,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I'd say, is this is a much
Speaker 1: better team than that Raiders team was a lot of
Speaker 1: that was because the greatness of Carson Wentzo. Isn't it
Speaker 1: a solid team? Yes, they're very solided. That Raiders tem
Speaker 1: had no defense. Uh, it had and it had Connor Cook,
Speaker 1: these are probably the best weapons that Nick Foles has
Speaker 1: ever been surrounded by two in terms of the offense.
Speaker 1: Are these the best weapons you've ever been surrounded by?
Speaker 1: Just like apparently he's four minutes away from going to
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Good Morning Football, Saturday edition, October seventeen
Speaker 1: show when Victor Cruz sat in that was goose bumps.
Speaker 1: All right, before we get to you, Greg, let's get
Speaker 1: more from there we go. What's more likely? It's like
Speaker 1: you're reading like an essay, and Okay, I know I
Speaker 1: hated reading. What's more like I used to like get
Speaker 1: really nervous and sweat when I would read it was awful.
Speaker 1: My I don't know why nobody knows okay um Cam
Speaker 1: Newton launches a Halloween superstore filled with all of his
Speaker 1: game day outfits as children's costumes or Mark Sessler spends
Speaker 1: one final year at the NFL Network before deciding to
Speaker 1: quit and open a cat sanctuary in Mexico, with satellite
Speaker 1: locations later expanding to Moscow, medi Ian and the Hague
Speaker 1: the Netherlands. I love that this one at least said
Speaker 1: you woke up at five in the morning and your
Speaker 1: first thought was I need to come up with it.
Speaker 1: What's more likely? And this is where your mind went
Speaker 1: very interested. Thank you for connecting this one to the
Speaker 1: regular season. No problem, problem, It's within the rules. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go Cam because although a t N cat you know,
Speaker 1: briefly warmed up Mark's heart for a little bit, he
Speaker 1: still doesn't really not into cats, and I think it
Speaker 1: was allergic to I feel like him he has a
Speaker 1: change of heart though. With all the cats an his yard,
Speaker 1: Cam Newton as could be big sellers he's looking to
Speaker 1: break into. I guess you could do a more corporate
Speaker 1: like Overview to take Overview. I don't think i'd move
Speaker 1: personally to Mexico, but I'd open a cat shop or
Speaker 1: whatever you'd call it in Mexico and all these other
Speaker 1: places and kind of fly around and oversee it Mark
Speaker 1: does and talking this job, so that part of it match.
Speaker 1: I don't talk about that very often. Would you move
Speaker 1: to the Hague, Well I would. I would zoom in
Speaker 1: between all these locations. Also, Cam takes himself way too
Speaker 1: seriously to open up a Halloween store. I could totally
Speaker 1: see Cam opening up something on Rodeo Drive career, and
Speaker 1: it's like a Cam line, But he would never do
Speaker 1: something that was tongue in cheek or had any semblance
Speaker 1: of a sense of fear. He doesn't view those clothes
Speaker 1: as Halloween appropriate. They're simply his clothes. So so the game,
Speaker 1: you have to say, what's more likely? Yeah, the more
Speaker 1: likely scenario would be Mark ending up being the over
Speaker 1: seer of a massive conglomerate cat savior. Yeah. Everyone would
Speaker 1: kind of have to like you for doing that too.
Speaker 1: That's kind of a good role to take. It could
Speaker 1: be worse. It could be worse, all right. I just
Speaker 1: don't get who's behind this meeting the bureaucracy play. There
Speaker 1: are shadowy league figures no matter what situation we set
Speaker 1: up trying to avoid this happening again. I believe every time,
Speaker 1: no matter what yep sound the buzzer, I know every
Speaker 1: week it's going on in that meeting. Honestly, it's the
Speaker 1: power ranking show. Yeah, you guys should watch it, everybody.
Speaker 1: It's a great show. It's not that it's but Elliot
Speaker 1: Harrison writes that, you guys, then you m J d
Speaker 1: uh and Elliott argue about we argue about what we're
Speaker 1: going to argue about on the show in the meeting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would say just go into the taping, just fly blind.
Speaker 1: I always say, can we please save it for the
Speaker 1: show like you always say it, But you could just
Speaker 1: read the article out loud on the air. That could
Speaker 1: take a while. That's true, that's just an idea. You
Speaker 1: should be a producer. Wait before you just want Christian,
Speaker 1: you had a comment about Colleen's garb today and you
Speaker 1: can watch. Yeah, well it's such a big for the
Speaker 1: nerds out there, and she looks like she's dressed for
Speaker 1: the Star Wars from me or she's got like the Jedi.
Speaker 1: It's a sweater. It's kind of like seventies. I would
Speaker 1: call it flowing. Yeah, it's like a blanket. That is
Speaker 1: a little bit. I kind of like it because it's
Speaker 1: like a robe that looks comfortable. You wear comfortable clothes,
Speaker 1: that's see. I'm practical. So you're a big Star Wars guy,
Speaker 1: I'm a fan. Yes, so you see now Mark Scott,
Speaker 1: everybody to talk about Are we allowed to talk about
Speaker 1: Star Wars? And we could throw some lasers in there?
Speaker 1: Um there? Yeah, there you go? Okay, all right, by guys.
Speaker 1: By the way, I didn't mean comfortable, like you wear sweatsuits,
Speaker 1: just like the materials used to be really cool. I'm
Speaker 1: staying out of it. It's usually like a nice soft fabric.
Speaker 1: So you know what you're doing. All right, We'll see
Speaker 1: you at the holiday party. Colleen. I'm sure you're gonna
Speaker 1: be ready to roll tiny box. There she goes, all right, Greg,
Speaker 1: you're up. All right, here we go. What's more likely?
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers leads the Chargers thinking about Star Wars. He's
Speaker 1: like wow, He's like, but I finally time for me
Speaker 1: to get into this franchise. Right now, I'm start checking
Speaker 1: it out. Philip Rivers leads the Chargers to a ten
Speaker 1: and six record and rides the Wave to win Most
Speaker 1: Valuable Player in a now wide open field, or the
Speaker 1: Seahawks don't win another game, finish eight and eight, setting
Speaker 1: off a stormy off season in Seattle. What's more likely?
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Two things I'll just throw out there.
Speaker 1: Fairly unlike fairly what's more like? M I I can't
Speaker 1: see Seattle go I can see them having a rocky
Speaker 1: off season even if they don't go oh and three
Speaker 1: and finish eight and eight. Um, So I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: I will presume they go oh in three in this
Speaker 1: scenario and that they have a rocky off season. I
Speaker 1: see that coming one way or another, because I think
Speaker 1: that there've been whisperers for years that Pete Carroll maybe
Speaker 1: not a coach who stays forever at this point, that
Speaker 1: he may be read at some point done a great
Speaker 1: job and he's gonna have to assess, like is the future. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he does like young. Absolutely, No, he doesn't seem old.
Speaker 1: It's not rod rust. But I mean, I would just
Speaker 1: say that maybe a stormy offseason would be in in
Speaker 1: in store for the throne of these is much different
Speaker 1: than it was not a throne. Um. Yeah, my mom
Speaker 1: is finds Pete Carroll attractive. He has excellent you guys
Speaker 1: always like to kill me about my eight years. You
Speaker 1: could look at age chronologically. I think the key is
Speaker 1: to not look at that way. That Pete Carroll does
Speaker 1: not care how old he is gooderically he's got good
Speaker 1: when you see him in person. We've all met him
Speaker 1: like in interviews and stuff it plays, and I love
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll for that reason. Yeah, anyway, that's not really
Speaker 1: what we're talking about. What we want to get to
Speaker 1: the heart of is this one more like Greg, I
Speaker 1: believe these are two highly although a good, what's more likely,
Speaker 1: highly implausible scenarios because I think they're like two things
Speaker 1: that there's just like a little bit of a chance.
Speaker 1: Yeah not it's not ridiculous, but they're very implausible. And
Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks, I I view their floor at
Speaker 1: nine and seven. Um, they just they've been around too long.
Speaker 1: They have Russell Wilson, and I still very much believe
Speaker 1: this guy that will always will them to an extra
Speaker 1: couple of wins, and they've just been even with their
Speaker 1: their injuries. I think nine and seven at worst, so
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna lose out. And then Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers this that's the pie. This guy. That's fun. I'll
Speaker 1: say that's more likely, but it's more because it would
Speaker 1: kind of be a fun ride to see him, really
Speaker 1: kind of late in his career, have this huge national moment.
Speaker 1: So I'll say that's what I want, and it's probably
Speaker 1: a little bit more likely, but it's not very likely.
Speaker 1: I don't know how he would play the Rams this
Speaker 1: week at Cowboys was Zeke. But let's say one thing.
Speaker 1: Let's say let's say Brady after Let's say things don't
Speaker 1: go great for the Patriots at the quarterback position for
Speaker 1: the next three weeks, and let's say the same thing
Speaker 1: sort of happens with Russell Wilson. I don't I think
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown becomes the obvious m v P. There's this
Speaker 1: there's this game Brown versus Brady could be for the
Speaker 1: m v P. That's fun. Whence going out for the year,
Speaker 1: it looked like Tommy was if he blew up the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: he would have been in the driver's seat again. And
Speaker 1: now it does feel wide open m VP. I think
Speaker 1: he's still the favorite because his season has been better.
Speaker 1: But the fact that that happened in prime time and
Speaker 1: then it also what does it augur like a bad
Speaker 1: three weeks to follow. I think, what does Wentz get
Speaker 1: any votes with just three games remaining? I think such
Speaker 1: a messy year. I mean, I think Antonio Brown in
Speaker 1: the course of seventy two hours and he missed four games,
Speaker 1: but a little different, different situation, that wasn't the front
Speaker 1: people forget about that. Um, yeah, that will be now
Speaker 1: I'm interested in the race. If Antonio Brown goes nuts
Speaker 1: or continues to go nuts, and they take that one seed,
Speaker 1: then I think the guy's got to be We'll see.
Speaker 1: When's the last time a wide receiver one VP. I
Speaker 1: think it was like Jerry Rice Rice number one, he
Speaker 1: Montana was winning. He never won the the Associated Press,
Speaker 1: which now is the only m v P award. No
Speaker 1: receiver has ever won it. Rice one. Back in the day,
Speaker 1: there used to be multiple m VP awards. People kind
Speaker 1: of forget this, Like the profball writers had one and
Speaker 1: people cared about that, and Rice did win that one's
Speaker 1: but no one's actually won this award. The Rice is
Speaker 1: I think it was his eight seven season. Maybe that
Speaker 1: is when you look at within what the rest of
Speaker 1: the NFL was like at the time he was putting
Speaker 1: out Antonio Brown numbers. Now with twenty two touchdowns or whatever,
Speaker 1: multiple multiple years in a row. He was doing this
Speaker 1: to the best season. Um, all right, Mark, you got
Speaker 1: another one? Yeah? Okay, what is more likely? We use
Speaker 1: the contraction round? Okay? Qualis two fonts yet a right?
Speaker 1: Dan holds on to win our season long lock It
Speaker 1: Up Challenge. This dip marginally into the playoffs by the way.
Speaker 1: Dan holds on to win our season long Lock It
Speaker 1: Up Challenge and convinces NFL Media to put up the
Speaker 1: ample funds to purchase a high octane name engraved fancy
Speaker 1: trophy that he keeps at his desk all season. The
Speaker 1: trophy lights up every twenty minutes, omitting a high pitched
Speaker 1: wailing siren while unfurling a loud recording that screams over
Speaker 1: the newsroom. This one's for media insider Dan. This one's
Speaker 1: for media insider Dan Or. When New England's lost to
Speaker 1: Miami spirals into an ugly late season swoon followed by
Speaker 1: a one and done playoff loss, Los Angeles firefighters are
Speaker 1: signaled to the third story apartment a mega Pats fan,
Speaker 1: Erica Tampos, who they find stationed dangerously out on the
Speaker 1: building's ledge in her Danny Amandola Jersey shouting into the
Speaker 1: wind about the utter meaningless of contemporary adult life in
Speaker 1: the United States. I'd have to go at the Tamposse scenario.
Speaker 1: I can see that, you know the trophy. It feels
Speaker 1: like cutting your nose despite your face. Dan wants to,
Speaker 1: you know, show everyone he's a champion. But it's gonna
Speaker 1: make his life a living health to have that noise
Speaker 1: every twenty minute. I could see, what's gonna make our
Speaker 1: life a levied hella. Yes, you know, I'm sorry for Tim.
Speaker 1: You want tam postat on allege. Yeah, I don't want
Speaker 1: this your sound every twenty minutes. It's still a race
Speaker 1: for the trophy. Um, it's a two game lead that
Speaker 1: I have initially. Yes, actually this is why I initially
Speaker 1: had it. The second scenario had me picking the forty
Speaker 1: niners for the rest of the year and then going
Speaker 1: into the playoffs and tying you up and then beating you.
Speaker 1: But I felt like, well the playoffs, Yeah, there's a playoff.
Speaker 1: Who was gonna vote for that? Should we? But here's
Speaker 1: a real question, and try to look at it from
Speaker 1: just take a big overview, look at it birds view,
Speaker 1: should bird's eye view? Thank you should this trophy the
Speaker 1: a t N Lock Up Trophy? Should it be a
Speaker 1: regular season prize like the m v P. Didn't we
Speaker 1: keep track last year in the playoffs? What I'm saying,
Speaker 1: maybe we should establish this just because locking games up
Speaker 1: in the playoffs it's kind of a different beast and
Speaker 1: maybe that is not the especially if it's close. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm open to however you guys want to do. I
Speaker 1: just don't want to be caught like oh Dan decided.
Speaker 1: And really it's like I'd say, go in the playoffs
Speaker 1: because we're picking close games anyways. Half the time we're
Speaker 1: picking underdog. Yeah. If anything, how about this year we'll
Speaker 1: do a trophy. This year goes to the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: so it's not essentially already a wrapped competition, and next
Speaker 1: year if we want to make it just regular. So
Speaker 1: I think we have to decide right now what it
Speaker 1: is we we did these games. We've always picked games
Speaker 1: all the way up to the super Bowl. And you know,
Speaker 1: last year, someone in this room predicting an overtime super
Speaker 1: Bowl would have gotten a bonus point their parents. You know,
Speaker 1: But I think we go all the way because number one,
Speaker 1: if you continue to perform the way you have the
Speaker 1: playoffs shouldn't concern you. Yeah, you're gonna be fine. Well,
Speaker 1: it's it gets tricky, but I'm not afraid of it.
Speaker 1: If that's how we want to do it, right, well,
Speaker 1: that brings the trophy into a realistic consideration. It also
Speaker 1: it was always gonna happen, by the way, I know, lindsay, Um, oh, wait,
Speaker 1: so do I get my trophy from my last year
Speaker 1: for winning last year? I think I won last year.
Speaker 1: I was ahead of the all touch standings. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be like twelve. We will obviously be doing
Speaker 1: the show for another twenty years, so we'll have a
Speaker 1: room for twenty name plates, and I think it starts
Speaker 1: with this year. Sorry, Yeah, that's a tough situation for you, greg, Um, Lindsay,
Speaker 1: you have a couple extra weeks to get the trophy together.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. What's more likely? Uh? Are
Speaker 1: you ready for this? We gotta we gotta get out
Speaker 1: of here. So let's be a little quick. Here we go.
Speaker 1: What's more likely Packers went out? Let have said to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs? Packers went out or Cowboys went out.
Speaker 1: As we taped this, we don't know if Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: is gonna be back this week and Ian Rapport. Maybe
Speaker 1: this is gonna be all old news by the time
Speaker 1: you know you listen to this, But the signs to
Speaker 1: me are not overly positive, and they have a really
Speaker 1: tough schedule anyway. So I'm gonna go Cowboys, Panthers, Vikings
Speaker 1: and Lions. For the Packers with Aaron Rodgerson Carolina first,
Speaker 1: you know, home for the Vikings at Detroit. I don't
Speaker 1: think with Aaron Rodgers you're winning all three of those games.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go Cowboys. Just for the Cowboys at
Speaker 1: Raiders home against the Seahawks on the road against the
Speaker 1: Nick Foles lad Eagles. Gonna go Packers. I think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are more likely. And I would say the Cowboys
Speaker 1: get hot here, and I know they've had an up
Speaker 1: and down season, but if they get hot um and
Speaker 1: the NFC playoff picture, I wouldn't be surprised if they
Speaker 1: could make a run this year too. I got my
Speaker 1: eye on. I am nuts, I'm going Dallas. I thought, yeah, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: forget kreen Bay here, okay, last one, Greg, take us home.
Speaker 1: What's more likely the Patriots win Sunday in Pittsburgh and
Speaker 1: eventually earned home field advantage, or who won the Steelers
Speaker 1: the Patriots and they earn home field, or Blake Bortles
Speaker 1: is playing a home game in the a f C playoffs. Well,
Speaker 1: by that meaning we'd say they'd win their division. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they they still have to win in Tennessee where or else,
Speaker 1: and they lost that game in the first time. I
Speaker 1: think the smart Desert money is always to say that
Speaker 1: the Patriots will win, so I will go with that
Speaker 1: for that reason. Then they're also the best team in
Speaker 1: the league, and that there. You think they're gonna win
Speaker 1: Sunday in Pittsburgh even more than you think the Jaguars
Speaker 1: are gonna hold off the Titans. Yeah, because I don't
Speaker 1: trust I still don't trust Blake Portles. I could see
Speaker 1: him kicking away a game or two down the stretch here,
Speaker 1: So I think they're both gonna happen. What's more likely
Speaker 1: I think is that Jacksonville is going to run away
Speaker 1: with that division. They are by far the better team
Speaker 1: and they can beat any team in the league in
Speaker 1: any week if they continue to get what happened with
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles and Marcus Mariota's injury is also something in
Speaker 1: the track. Now remember him when he was so limited
Speaker 1: with the hamstring injury and I was gonna spray knee.
Speaker 1: It's like, what's gonna happen with the tyitoons now? When
Speaker 1: if they just fade out of this entirely? But I
Speaker 1: think they have been fading and they will continue to
Speaker 1: do so. All right, there you go, Shoulders A Greatness
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