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Speaker 1: I Headed Shoulders. My name is Dan Hands, and I'm
Speaker 1: joined by a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Connie Fox,
Speaker 1: and Greg Roseatal. What's up people? Hey? Why did you
Speaker 1: close my computer? Yeah? That was now I got a
Speaker 1: log back in. It's a whole hostile way to open
Speaker 1: the show. In active aggression, total active aggression. How you feeling, Connie?
Speaker 1: Feeling not great? Do you want to tell the audience
Speaker 1: how you spent your Monday night? I drank a bottle
Speaker 1: of wine and ate a bag of chocolate covered popcorn.
Speaker 1: That's that's doing. That's doing some work on your insides
Speaker 1: on Tuesday morning. Don't feel great? How big of a well?
Speaker 1: The back it actually was caramel covered and chocolate covered.
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Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast Video Show, which airs nine pm
Speaker 1: Eastern six pm Pacific. Uh. Colleen wearing a Velwer matching sweatsuit.
Speaker 1: It's not and bottom matching. I have jeans on to
Speaker 1: It's from the Channon Bomb collection. It's Adidas. Everybody, get
Speaker 1: off my back. It looks like it's from some medieval kingdom.
Speaker 1: That's what That's what Mark said. He's like, I thought
Speaker 1: it was like a medieval jacket. You is that what
Speaker 1: people who are during medieval times? Track suits? If you
Speaker 1: were in the red cast system, Yes, UM, jam packed
Speaker 1: show people coming up today. It is the Tuesday show.
Speaker 1: We get Colleen for the next like twelve minutes or so.
Speaker 1: So let's let's go through what we're gonna talk about today.
Speaker 1: Monday Night football. Of course we do that every Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Uh NFC South battle between the Falcons and Bucks Atlanta
Speaker 1: staying in the chase. Also, you know, the playoffs less
Speaker 1: than less than at the way a couple of weeks away.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about the playoff matchups we'd like
Speaker 1: to see um in January, and at the end of
Speaker 1: the show, have a little fun Kobe. This is why
Speaker 1: Colleen deemed it necessary to get bombed on a Monday
Speaker 1: night and um, gorge yourself on chocolate. Is because Kobe
Speaker 1: Bryant had his extravagant or the Lakers I should say
Speaker 1: had extravagant Kobe Bryant um jersey numbers retirement ceremony. So
Speaker 1: we'll talk about some NFL jersey numbers. We'd like to
Speaker 1: see the top. All I'd say is had Kobe, had
Speaker 1: there been no Kobe related event, I still feel like
Speaker 1: Colleen would have gone down the same road attaching it
Speaker 1: to some other television show or something to watch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Monday football. There you go. Um, so that's that's our
Speaker 1: show today. Uh, and we're gonna do some news as well,
Speaker 1: what's going on around the NFL. And you see how
Speaker 1: it all ties together. Great. Finally the payoff. The payoff
Speaker 1: brought it back and if um, Colleen's Andrew Dice Clay matchings,
Speaker 1: let's see to get you to check out the video show.
Speaker 1: This week, Mark Sessler has broken out his Christmas brown sweater.
Speaker 1: Two of us next to each other. I had my
Speaker 1: children laughing at me as I was exiting. I mean,
Speaker 1: I you know, it's fine. I will say it's a
Speaker 1: I made a massive mistake because I already always feel
Speaker 1: hot in the studio and going sweater on top of
Speaker 1: long sleeve shirt. I've got the sleeves rolled up. I'm
Speaker 1: already feeling this was a horrible decision. We have like
Speaker 1: endless video things to do to those sweaters. Don't breathe
Speaker 1: very well, they're really hot, your collar is kind of
Speaker 1: and they're a nice crazy. This particular sweater, my friend
Speaker 1: is a Cowboys one. It couldn't look more fantastic. I
Speaker 1: got this in the words of Keith Hansas. Well, thank you, Keith.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure Keith might be the second color blind
Speaker 1: person in this podcast. Let's get into Monday Night Football.
Speaker 1: With five seconds left, snap spot tryers wait by Murray
Speaker 1: and it is looked like you had the distance and
Speaker 1: Murray messes at the horn. Oh and the laugh at
Speaker 1: the end to yeah, the radio guy has to get
Speaker 1: that call right. Plus, it wasn't one of those ones
Speaker 1: where it was like surprising, you could tell it was
Speaker 1: pushing right, But maybe he didn't have Was that Was
Speaker 1: that a Gene decker Hof special? It depends where he was,
Speaker 1: like in the stadium, probably too hopefully in the announcers booth,
Speaker 1: I would assume, but right. Anyway, the Bos and Patrick
Speaker 1: Murray could not convert a fifty four yard field goal
Speaker 1: as time expired to end the fourth quarter. Uh the
Speaker 1: kick sailled wide right and the Atlanta Falcons escape with
Speaker 1: a win over the Bucks on Monday Night Football. Um
Speaker 1: at at the Old Pirate ship. Correct, it's the name
Speaker 1: of that facility, Raymond James Stadium, Ram James. It was
Speaker 1: that at least if it's not still. How did the
Speaker 1: Falcons win Well? They leaned on Devanta Freeman, who rushed
Speaker 1: for a hundred and twenty six yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: He was making plays all night. Uh. The Falcons had
Speaker 1: a ten point lead and then almost let it slip away,
Speaker 1: but they hung on to win five wins in six games.
Speaker 1: They remained one game behind the Saints and Panthers in
Speaker 1: the division standings. Greg Rosenthal, um, were you impressed with
Speaker 1: what you saw from the defending conference champs on Monday? No,
Speaker 1: but I'm not surprised, and I kind of I don't
Speaker 1: throw away these division games, but I try not to.
Speaker 1: Just like grade that. It's not like figure skating where
Speaker 1: we're giving them a seven point for Ultimately, they swept
Speaker 1: the Bucks over the last four weeks. As bad teams go,
Speaker 1: the Bucks are a little feisty. Jamis Winston certainly played
Speaker 1: one of, if not his best game of eason last night,
Speaker 1: and in the end, the Falcons got the job done.
Speaker 1: My concerns with them have been over the course of
Speaker 1: the season, not so much this game, but I still
Speaker 1: think they have a chance to make some noise over
Speaker 1: the next two weeks in bigger to Asian games. Well
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean, had they had that kick been
Speaker 1: good and they somehow found a way to lose an
Speaker 1: overtime over time, it would have been a devastating loss
Speaker 1: for Atlanta. You now, you know, with one more win,
Speaker 1: you're in the playoffs, and that likely means we don't
Speaker 1: get the Lions or some some lesser team that we
Speaker 1: don't want to watch. But you got the Saints in
Speaker 1: New Orleans next week, and then you're home against Carolina.
Speaker 1: You're basically your playoffs. It starts right here. That was
Speaker 1: a huge game for them. I mean, they eliminated the Packers.
Speaker 1: Now they're done, uh and they're out of it. So
Speaker 1: we'll get to that in a second. But DeVonta Freeman,
Speaker 1: what a game he had. The way that he ran
Speaker 1: in this game, it was amazing. I mean, he was
Speaker 1: They do a segment on Good Morning Football with angry
Speaker 1: runs like that was him all game. He was so aggressive.
Speaker 1: But the thing that I really took away from this game,
Speaker 1: you mentioned at Greg Jameis Winston. You know, he looked
Speaker 1: good the offense look good, but it was because the
Speaker 1: Falcon secondary. I don't know what's going on with them.
Speaker 1: He got they were getting picked Apart that that's my
Speaker 1: concern watching them all season long. At no point has
Speaker 1: their defense looked better than a year ago, which I
Speaker 1: have a hard time figuring out because there it's a
Speaker 1: young group, they look deep on paper, it's a coaching
Speaker 1: staff that's had him for three years. And and I
Speaker 1: was expecting their defense to get better and that was
Speaker 1: what would make up for their offense falling off. And
Speaker 1: that doesn't hasn't happened, and you saw it again last night,
Speaker 1: and that's why I don't feel too good about no
Speaker 1: point has the offense been better than last year's offense,
Speaker 1: outside of maybe a game here and then not better.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's and and we This is one of
Speaker 1: the few offseason narratives that got hammered into the ground
Speaker 1: ridiculously with the Steve Sarkisian replacing Kyl Shannon. But it
Speaker 1: has played out because as as Chris Wesley and our
Speaker 1: friend pointed out last night too, that these these receivers
Speaker 1: are not seeing the open windows that they were with
Speaker 1: Kyl Shannon against the Bucks team not good on defense,
Speaker 1: some of their best players and many of their best
Speaker 1: But it seems like we let him off the hook.
Speaker 1: But I don't think Matt Ryan, I know, I don't
Speaker 1: think he's having a good season. I don't think he
Speaker 1: had a great game yesterday either. I thought he he
Speaker 1: makes plays every week, whether it's in a leady to
Speaker 1: scan the field, find an open receiver, scramble when he
Speaker 1: has to move up in the pocket and deliver it
Speaker 1: pass like, oh yeah, that's why he's an m v
Speaker 1: P in the past, that's why he's regarded as one
Speaker 1: of the best quarterbacks. But all season, this guy misses, throws,
Speaker 1: misses opportunities to put a game away. He is not
Speaker 1: the same quarterback he was last year. And we saw
Speaker 1: it again last night. Did you know that he hasn't
Speaker 1: had a game once all season where he's thrown three
Speaker 1: touchdowns in a game. He has never really had a
Speaker 1: dominant effort. And his stat line yesterday and I tweeted
Speaker 1: about it, he's at and Gregg we talked about it
Speaker 1: because he was my fantasy quarterback before I went out
Speaker 1: in Flames last week, so I tracked him extremely closely
Speaker 1: statistically every week. It's something like seventeen of twenty eight
Speaker 1: for a hundred and ninety two twenty yards and one
Speaker 1: or two touchdowns, maybe an interception. He's just had kind
Speaker 1: of a bloss season. Yeah. The offense too. I think
Speaker 1: for a while there they weren't really incorporating the running
Speaker 1: backs as much as they were last year under Shannah
Speaker 1: and now we're sort of seeing it a little bit more.
Speaker 1: But Taylor, Great Gabriel, where has he been. He was
Speaker 1: one of the guys last year that was a huge
Speaker 1: surprise for the offense, and you don't see him involved
Speaker 1: really at all now. Well, Ryan hasn't played well. The
Speaker 1: worst game of the season that he had was against
Speaker 1: New Orleans, which they won. And I would say the
Speaker 1: last three weeks, after what I believe had been a
Speaker 1: really good stretch of play, despite the numbers not being great,
Speaker 1: I think he's played worst over the last three weeks.
Speaker 1: I mean, the most exciting thing that he did all
Speaker 1: last night, the most fiery thing we saw from the
Speaker 1: Falcons offense and what was kind of a dead stadium
Speaker 1: was was his pre snap yelling at his teammate. Let's
Speaker 1: listen to that happy you know, someone told me a
Speaker 1: sparrow told me the McDonough responses fantasy happy Ryan, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said, it's so calm me Ryan not happy with
Speaker 1: the linement he and he did. He circled back to
Speaker 1: it too. He kind of said, you ever talked like
Speaker 1: that on the sideline? John Sparrow told me, and this
Speaker 1: is not deep old juicer sourcing, just a sparrow that
Speaker 1: I was in conversation. Yeah, it was a bird. No, um,
Speaker 1: not a wing creature. A human told me that Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: and maybe this would surprise you, is one of the
Speaker 1: nastiest people on the field and how he speaks to
Speaker 1: his teammates, how he speaks to the opponent. He has
Speaker 1: a he has an intensity about him on the field,
Speaker 1: an edge that clearly. As soon as that happened, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, here's a little peek behind the curtain.
Speaker 1: And it was kind of terrifying. Like I don't want
Speaker 1: to be Matt Ryan's dad. Like imagine, like you think
Speaker 1: he yells at his dad or his child, his child.
Speaker 1: I don't like maybe he you know, maybe he orders up. Heah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be his son. Is what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is clean clean the table, because if you like,
Speaker 1: break a window or you know, put magic marker on
Speaker 1: the couch. What's Maddie Ryan gonna do when you hear
Speaker 1: something like that? What it most new is like cry
Speaker 1: and my old I would counter with this, you probably
Speaker 1: would grow up to be like six ft six and
Speaker 1: like being incredible, you know, quarterback front you know, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, that was a dad issue for sure. Any
Speaker 1: other thoughts about this game before we move on. We
Speaker 1: have a lot to get to. Jameis Winson did play
Speaker 1: great in this game, and yet it's it's it's ultimately
Speaker 1: it's nice little thing to put a ribbon on going
Speaker 1: into your off season in which you're going to have
Speaker 1: a complete coaching overhaul and have to learn a new
Speaker 1: offense problems. I think the last thing I would say
Speaker 1: is how strange this game was because John Gruden was
Speaker 1: getting put into their ring of honor at halftime. The
Speaker 1: crowd has been chanting Gruden's name in recent weeks. There's rumors,
Speaker 1: as it seems like there always is, that Gruden's gonna return.
Speaker 1: There he's announcing the game for the guy who is
Speaker 1: about to get fired. Meanwhile, like the Falcons have Bucks
Speaker 1: guys on their staff for he Morris, The entire Bucks
Speaker 1: staff is a bunch of ex Falcons guys. Mike Smith
Speaker 1: like leave each other alone. Bucks and Falcons. It's like
Speaker 1: it was very very I didn't like that whole thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very true, very true. All right, let's move on to
Speaker 1: the news. Up wants back in. Okay, y'all, this just
Speaker 1: send breaking news. The North Carolina Panthers, North Carolina Panthers
Speaker 1: for sale. There is also the South Carolina Panthers. The
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers up for sale was Puffed Daddy of course,
Speaker 1: who's throwing his hat in the ring to be the
Speaker 1: owner of the next owner of the Carolina Panthers and
Speaker 1: it It was reported on Monday by our own Judy
Speaker 1: Batista that Jerry Richardson is stepping aside from day to
Speaker 1: day control of the team, effective immediately, in order to
Speaker 1: focus on the teams sale. Tina Becker old Tina Becker,
Speaker 1: twenty year employee with the team, will be the Panthers
Speaker 1: Chief operating officer with full control the organization, the team announced.
Speaker 1: Uh This comes um following the investigation that the NFL
Speaker 1: is running into the affair is going on behind the
Speaker 1: scenes with Richardson and some allegations against him of impropriety.
Speaker 1: So that is the situation, Tina Becker in the big chair.
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of a cool story. Actually, she's
Speaker 1: been with the team since she started as part of
Speaker 1: their cheerleading troup and moved into the business side as head.
Speaker 1: They call it cheerleading troup. I don't know that they
Speaker 1: actually have an actual Panthers. The official name is the
Speaker 1: Top Cats. She was a top cat, top cat, she moves,
Speaker 1: She's had a number of different business roles. Now she's
Speaker 1: the top cat she was. I think she's seen how
Speaker 1: everything's work, and this is cool. I think they can
Speaker 1: close the show. Yes, it was a great joke, and
Speaker 1: you know, do you mean joke? Mark, I don't know
Speaker 1: she's the top cat. She is the top Cat. No,
Speaker 1: I mean that's a that's really on. To give her
Speaker 1: some props. It's I think this is this is one
Speaker 1: of the more unusual ways to become an NFL owner.
Speaker 1: You don't see things happen this way to take control
Speaker 1: of the team. But I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: pretty cool too, just because an ideal way to take
Speaker 1: control of the team. But the way that she's grown
Speaker 1: with the franchise, she's she's been involved in so many
Speaker 1: different facets of the business there, and I think that
Speaker 1: that can only help in any situation. Right when you
Speaker 1: are like involved on so many different levels and so
Speaker 1: many different ways, you really know the people and what's
Speaker 1: going Most owners come in and it takes them three
Speaker 1: or four years. This is even true of the Patriots owner,
Speaker 1: that glorious individual. It takes a couple of years to
Speaker 1: figure out what the heck the job is right, But
Speaker 1: they're going to have a new owner very silly. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. So it's a strange time because you
Speaker 1: never know how long that process is going to take.
Speaker 1: There's already, you know, being some names leaked out, you know,
Speaker 1: in addition to uh p diddie, uh you know of
Speaker 1: who maybe I'll try to buy it former owner. You know,
Speaker 1: we'll see. It's gonna take a little while. The playoff
Speaker 1: at it's a very strange situation because the Panthers, with
Speaker 1: Cam Newton playing so well, are very much in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl hunt. We can very much win that division,
Speaker 1: and if he plays the way he's been playing, they're
Speaker 1: going to keep playing. So it's it's just strange. I
Speaker 1: can't remember anything like it did he do we go
Speaker 1: you dropped a P Diddy or is he still using
Speaker 1: P Diddy or is it just Diddy now? Well, he
Speaker 1: was going to change his name to like Love Jones
Speaker 1: or something totally bizarre the other week, and I think
Speaker 1: it got so much blowback that it was it was
Speaker 1: brother Love. It was an issue because there's already a
Speaker 1: Brother Love wrestler. Well, he was like the guy with
Speaker 1: the red face, right, he was like an announced wrestler,
Speaker 1: slash ballet slash manager, a real, a real renaissance man.
Speaker 1: Bruce Pritchard. He was. He's one of the best. He
Speaker 1: passed away recently. No, he didn't. I mean I've never
Speaker 1: really podcast Lindsay all plugged in. That's why she's a
Speaker 1: wrestling insider. I've never really forgiven, you know, Diddy for
Speaker 1: rhyming late at night when we pray for you. Every
Speaker 1: day we pray for Yeah, a Biggie you know tribute song. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I will go with His greatest sin was using
Speaker 1: the led Zeppelin Jimmy Plant driff for the Godzilla soundtrack
Speaker 1: Come with Me, Yeah, I would imagine Gloria Stefan. Is
Speaker 1: I rate that she has sort of been swept aside
Speaker 1: here as like the first musician attempting to take over
Speaker 1: a team. Well, every music with popular culture owns the
Speaker 1: Dolphins by percentage points. Anyway. Another Panthers news they're not
Speaker 1: gonna have Thomas Davis for the rest of the regular season,
Speaker 1: at least those things currently stand. Uh. The league announced
Speaker 1: Monday that Davis, their veteran linebacker, will be suspended the
Speaker 1: final two games of the regular season for the helmet
Speaker 1: to helmet cheap shot on Davante Adams that left the
Speaker 1: Packers wide receiver with a concussion. Rap Sheet reported Davis
Speaker 1: plans to appeal the band uh and we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens if if upheld, he won't be eligible to return
Speaker 1: until um January one, which would coincide with a potential
Speaker 1: playoff run for the Panthers. So we'll see if we
Speaker 1: see Thomas Davis again. I would guess the way these
Speaker 1: things usually work is it will get knocked down to
Speaker 1: a game and we'll see him in week seventeen. But
Speaker 1: who knows, it might do him a favor. Thomas Davis
Speaker 1: has not been the same player for the last month.
Speaker 1: He's been fighting through a hamstring injury. He was struggling.
Speaker 1: I would say he was borderline exposed in the Saint scheme.
Speaker 1: It might help him take a I'm not saying he
Speaker 1: wants this, but he's an important player to their team
Speaker 1: who is clearly playing hurt. It is not at his
Speaker 1: usual form. So maybe a week or two off when
Speaker 1: it brings back though, because this was big on Twitter yesterday,
Speaker 1: the concept that Gronk got one game for what he
Speaker 1: did and this was a bad hit too, I mean,
Speaker 1: I have no problem with this getting to probably will
Speaker 1: get get reduced because he's a repeat offender. It's because
Speaker 1: he's been suspended. He's been punished for this. That's fair,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't make what Gronk versus other suspensions we've
Speaker 1: seen makes zero sense. It is completely the reasons. If
Speaker 1: it was two games, Gronk wouldn't be available for the
Speaker 1: Steelers game, and the league is in keep the Patriots
Speaker 1: at the top. Well, you've lifted the lid on that. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with your theory. Do you agree with that theory? Greg? No,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the prior. Prior. Greg's sides with
Speaker 1: the man. And by the way, one last note of that,
Speaker 1: the league gets a ton of blowback about you guys,
Speaker 1: don't do enough to protect the players. The players got
Speaker 1: to protect the players, and that was a totally unnecessary
Speaker 1: shot against Adams who had a terrifying concussion a couple
Speaker 1: of days, a couple of weeks back, a month back.
Speaker 1: And you know, come on, you said three total. I
Speaker 1: mean it's that was so self with these concussions. You can't,
Speaker 1: um des briant, excuse me. Zekiel Elliott is back with
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. This suspension UH is over and um mark,
Speaker 1: you are going to Cabo after the season ends. Uh.
Speaker 1: And you will be alone. Number one, that's vacation one
Speaker 1: of seven in this office. Number two you will have
Speaker 1: a drink in your hand, number three drink. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You seem to be the expert on Why don't you,
Speaker 1: Why don't you suggest something for me? I'm just, I'm
Speaker 1: just This is a picture, This is a raging mythology
Speaker 1: that not a single ounce of it is true or possible.
Speaker 1: Let's say, peanut colada, the cherry on top, frozen peanut colada,
Speaker 1: um just soaking in the rays after a long hard
Speaker 1: season of work. Well, Zeke Elliott also was in Cabo,
Speaker 1: but no peanut coladas or pina colada. It should be
Speaker 1: a yeah, there is a squid a pina colada. Shout
Speaker 1: out to the Mexican listeners. Us. The peanut colada sounds
Speaker 1: a little better. Yeah. Anyway, Elliott was in Cabo. He
Speaker 1: was training though, and uh, you guys see the photos
Speaker 1: of Zeke on the beach. Guys jacked completely ripped right now.
Speaker 1: I I actually went on my honeymoon to Cabo and
Speaker 1: I did not come back looking at this, That's for sure.
Speaker 1: It'd been weird. If you had a lot of wine
Speaker 1: and chocolate nuts or whatever it was. What is what
Speaker 1: did you have last night? Chocolate covered popcorn? Most enough? Um. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So Zeke Elliott is in great shape and des Bryant
Speaker 1: everyone's all excited to get him back, and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have a chance to make the playoffs. Isn't it kind
Speaker 1: of weird? Does anybody else think it's weird that Zeke
Speaker 1: reported to training camp at the start of the season
Speaker 1: and he was not in good shape the last two
Speaker 1: years in a row. So then he gets suspended for
Speaker 1: off the field issues and then he's like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take this to be ripped up. I don't know why
Speaker 1: not use that as motivation, though, I think would point
Speaker 1: to maturity, that like maybe maybe he wasn't taking his
Speaker 1: body and his conditionally as seriously, but he sees now
Speaker 1: that there are consequences and he's hungry to come back
Speaker 1: and drop him. It's not an excuse at all, but
Speaker 1: his legal situation was unfolding throughout the offseason in a
Speaker 1: in a different way, whereas now you know it's not
Speaker 1: part of his daily life. It's kind of settled. I
Speaker 1: think the bigger the bigger. If I was a Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I'd be more worried about Tyrone Smith missing this game
Speaker 1: than Zeke than Zeke elliott O this. I've observed this
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Speaker 1: show on NFL dot com. Move on, Hey, Jeremy Curly
Speaker 1: was cut by the Jets, the veteran wide receiver who
Speaker 1: was picked up um Off Waivers earlier in the season.
Speaker 1: Before he was cut on Wednesday, he told reporters, you
Speaker 1: know how, how did the drugs, the illicit drugs get
Speaker 1: into his system? Curly responded, I don't know. According to
Speaker 1: North Jersey dot Com, there's a lot of ghosts around here.
Speaker 1: Ghosts put it in there, you know, the ghost of Christmas,
Speaker 1: Christmas past. I don't know whoa Well, my question this
Speaker 1: is to understand a little bit better why Curly's had
Speaker 1: trouble keeping a job company because he's haunted by going
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah exactly. Well, here's a very real question,
Speaker 1: and I know the answer. I know Greg's answer, but
Speaker 1: I'm curious, but all right, do you believe? How about you, guys?
Speaker 1: I believe in spiritual sort of entities. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, Mr Jones died and now there's the
Speaker 1: actual ghost of Mr Jones Jones. Yeah, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't know about that, but I absolutely think that, like
Speaker 1: we are using a small fraction of our brains, and
Speaker 1: you can sit around thinking everything that you see with
Speaker 1: your little eyes is all that is real. But I
Speaker 1: think there's much more happening in our world, and we're
Speaker 1: a world very strange. I agree. I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I completely agree with that. I've never seen a ghost,
Speaker 1: but I'm always afraid of seeing a ghost. So like
Speaker 1: I used to always get really freaked out by the
Speaker 1: unsolved mystery shows, where like there would be ghosts outside
Speaker 1: on the lakes, incredible accounts, incredible accounts out there of
Speaker 1: some stuff that has multiple people reporting similar visions and
Speaker 1: instances coming from all different parts of the world to
Speaker 1: certain spots. So it's all a sham, it's a highly
Speaker 1: organized him. My aunt Sheila was very very staunch and
Speaker 1: serious about the fact that there was a woman named
Speaker 1: Farcetta who lived in the basement of their home, and uh,
Speaker 1: I never saw far set, even though I spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time with their house. But then I lived
Speaker 1: in Hollywood about ten years ago, and we had been
Speaker 1: told that a woman has his music. We had been
Speaker 1: told that a woman. Unfortunately, the previous woman, her husband
Speaker 1: had died and then she was like a pack rat
Speaker 1: and she collapsed in the house and got stuck in
Speaker 1: the house and died in the house. Um and weird.
Speaker 1: We used to hear weird things all the time on
Speaker 1: the music, weird things all the time in that house.
Speaker 1: And then one night we're watching movies and maybe we weren't,
Speaker 1: you know, at point oh eight or below when we
Speaker 1: were watching this movie one late night, I will never
Speaker 1: forget it. I saw someone peek around into the living
Speaker 1: room area where we're watching television. And then like two
Speaker 1: weeks later, we heard footsteps upstairs and we're like, hey, Brian,
Speaker 1: Hey Brian, and we heard like drawers, cloth opening closing, Brian,
Speaker 1: you want to come get lunch with us? We didn't
Speaker 1: hear it. We went up there up there. That's freaky, dude.
Speaker 1: One thing a lot. That's a crazy story. So a
Speaker 1: lot of people that claim to see things and they're
Speaker 1: immediately dismissed. Our children also, animals have incredible sense to energy,
Speaker 1: and adult just says I've closed all that down. So
Speaker 1: you're a child. You're speaking rubbish. Go back to your room. Greg,
Speaker 1: I have we changed your mind on ghost I mean
Speaker 1: a lot of what Mark says. I totally agree with
Speaker 1: that there's energy, that there's different things that that we
Speaker 1: don't understand. I don't, and I don't think the average
Speaker 1: adult does shut it down. I think actually the I
Speaker 1: think the conventional wisdom is is in favor of the ghosts, right,
Speaker 1: I mean it aren't most people at least believe on
Speaker 1: some level of of different. I would agree that some level. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm always waiting for it to happen, which like I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm so desperate for it to not happen. But I
Speaker 1: will wake up in the middle of the night and
Speaker 1: I will be like, is there someone in the living room?
Speaker 1: That's me? That's what That's how I wake up in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, saming. And now to bring
Speaker 1: it all the way around, did a spirit um tain't?
Speaker 1: Jeremy Curly's pay Absolutely, Okay, there you go. Spirit. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have anything better to do before we move on,
Speaker 1: do you guys want to hear a little bit more
Speaker 1: from Puffy pitching his ownership pitch for the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 1: I could be done with this, Okay, let's hear it. Well.
Speaker 1: I need to send a message out to everybody in
Speaker 1: the beautiful state of North Carolina. Um, I will be
Speaker 1: the best, to be fair that you can imagine. I'm listening.
Speaker 1: I will immediately address the Colin Kaepernick situation and put
Speaker 1: him in a running for next year started quarterback. It's
Speaker 1: just competition, baby, It's just competition. But also, sorry camp, hey,
Speaker 1: just competition. I will have the best halftime show, that
Speaker 1: the best selection of music. Everything. We will win that
Speaker 1: news for Derrick Anderson. Uh you know Mace? Oh that
Speaker 1: would be great. I mean, wait, Mace's available. Let's put
Speaker 1: it that way. We can get Mason there for eight
Speaker 1: home home games, a couple of preseason games. Swiss Beats.
Speaker 1: Maybe get Swiss Beats in there are younger listeners, they're married,
Speaker 1: so get one twelve in there. Remember one? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would I think this would be I think they'll get
Speaker 1: the way that the ownership group looks needs to probably change.
Speaker 1: That's not neat probably does needs to and why not
Speaker 1: open this up to lots of different types of people
Speaker 1: with different ideas to change the NFL experience needs to be.
Speaker 1: They could trade back, They should trade back for Kelvin
Speaker 1: Benjamin with the tie in there like Benjamin is a
Speaker 1: lot of like, as long as Busta Rhymes is somehow involved.
Speaker 1: Bust a bus in there. How about the idea of
Speaker 1: Biggie Small's hologram get eight evans, you get one twelve
Speaker 1: and every halftime show, just do I'll be missing you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I that would be amazing late at
Speaker 1: night when I pray for you every day, for you,
Speaker 1: when an idea, when you can start to envision all
Speaker 1: sorts of aspects, it's a good idea for you every day.
Speaker 1: All right, that's what's happening in the news. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on next seg little industry talk for you.
Speaker 1: Playoff matchups we'd like to see the most. So the
Speaker 1: playoffs will begin what is today today? Two and a
Speaker 1: half weeks? There we go. It doesn't approximate the calculator
Speaker 1: out seventeen days fortnite plus some Yes, I don't think that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think that's right. But who's gonna check honestly,
Speaker 1: So at this point, let's let's I don't want to
Speaker 1: say I don't want to hold anybody back. If you
Speaker 1: want to get crazy and talk super Bowl, you can
Speaker 1: talk super Bowl, but just in general, maybe more in
Speaker 1: the in the coming weeks, what what we could see? Um,
Speaker 1: how about the playoff matchups? We'd like to see the
Speaker 1: most mark get it going. I know that everyone wants
Speaker 1: to just catapult a couple of teams in the f
Speaker 1: C right back into a rematch in the a f
Speaker 1: C Championship. But I but you've been telling us all season,
Speaker 1: what that's what's gonna happen. Well, I picked a different
Speaker 1: team to go to the Super Bowl. It was the Chargers,
Speaker 1: and I understand that they kind of flopped big time
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. But before that, they were the team
Speaker 1: in the a f C that I thought could beat
Speaker 1: anyone on the right day. And I don't think that
Speaker 1: the ingredients that made that true before the Chiefs game
Speaker 1: are necessarily untrue At this point, I think they can
Speaker 1: bounce back. They have games remaining against the Jets and Raiders.
Speaker 1: The doorway is there for them to get in. They're
Speaker 1: not in great position after that Chief's loss. But it
Speaker 1: can happen, and I would like to see the Chief
Speaker 1: the cancer. That excuse me that the Charge go into
Speaker 1: the playoffs and drop a massive hammer on the Steelers
Speaker 1: and take the Steelers out of this thing. Because a
Speaker 1: I don't like the Steelers, check out the sweater I'm
Speaker 1: wearing to start with. But secondly enough, the Steelers had
Speaker 1: a chance to show us in their home field that
Speaker 1: they could get out of their own way and seal
Speaker 1: up a big victory then, and I don't simply blame
Speaker 1: the revs for that game. That's simple. That's the ref
Speaker 1: They absolutely had the DNA of a team that's gonna
Speaker 1: flop in the a f C playoffs. I don't trust them.
Speaker 1: I want the Chargers to go deal with the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I think that's the team that has a chance to
Speaker 1: New England out. Well, let me just say, though, you
Speaker 1: are saying because the Steelers quote unquote laid an egg
Speaker 1: or whatever at home against the Patriots in a game
Speaker 1: a lot of people thought they deserved to win. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, twenty four hours earlier, the Chargers
Speaker 1: laid a stink bomb in a huge game. So you're
Speaker 1: gonna give the Chargers a pass, but say that the Steelers.
Speaker 1: All these teams are extremely flawed. These teams are very flawed.
Speaker 1: There aren't These aren't superpower teams. And I'm tired of
Speaker 1: acting acting like we've got seven superpowers a lot of
Speaker 1: average teams, and I'm just saying that, like had these
Speaker 1: teams making the playoffs are not playoff material. There's a
Speaker 1: long history of teams having big time stink bombs late
Speaker 1: in the season and going on a Super Bowl run.
Speaker 1: The Ravens lost four or five before doing it. The
Speaker 1: Cardinals got waxed a couple of times late in the
Speaker 1: season and then they ended up going to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: And the path for the Chargers is not too difficult.
Speaker 1: That's right, a split screen. It's not too difficult. All
Speaker 1: they need is that The big thing is they need
Speaker 1: the Titans to lose both of their games. That would
Speaker 1: really help. But the Titans play the Rams and the Jacks,
Speaker 1: they're not beating any quality points. Then the Bills lose
Speaker 1: that New England and the Chargers slip right in as
Speaker 1: a sixty's gonna happen. I think it's that point. This
Speaker 1: gets Tennessee out of our world and I'd be happy
Speaker 1: about that, you know, I love that to me or
Speaker 1: your Patriots. You don't want to see the Patriots succeed, right,
Speaker 1: I am tired of the Steelers, and it's I have
Speaker 1: a much more strong opinion about the Steelers and the Patriots,
Speaker 1: to be honest, Well, that's clear. I understand that. I
Speaker 1: don't know how you're gonna be tired of the Patriots,
Speaker 1: do I'm not necessarily not tired of the Patriots, but
Speaker 1: the Steelers, thinks I am a little tired of the
Speaker 1: I'm a little tired of both. But it's like I
Speaker 1: can't change anything about the Patriots. They're going to handle
Speaker 1: their own business. Pittsburgh not so much. I want to
Speaker 1: see the Chargers in the playoffs, but we already saw
Speaker 1: the Chargers gonna charger on Saturday. Am I totally confident
Speaker 1: they're not gonna do it again now because they looked
Speaker 1: a lot like the more Chargers. But this is what
Speaker 1: I want. This is not what probably will happen. It's
Speaker 1: you know, I don't often get what I want in
Speaker 1: the NFL to begin with, So let's start there. That
Speaker 1: was a very passionate like the Steelers bring the Starkers
Speaker 1: get me to the brink they do? Is there how
Speaker 1: to deal with split screen with Mark in both screens?
Speaker 1: I like that. Now we're now we're actually you know,
Speaker 1: we're giving the fans what they've been asking for for weeks.
Speaker 1: All right, next time Mark talks, let's just get them
Speaker 1: in the double split. Uh. This is the if you've
Speaker 1: been like holding off on watching a video show. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is the show between the dice, clavel or suit,
Speaker 1: Mark sweater, all the split screen stuff. Yeah, let's let's
Speaker 1: see the split screen real, kay? Special Episode's Christmas reminds
Speaker 1: me have like an ericat tim post tweet. Yes it
Speaker 1: does come up. Yeah, that is definitely um NFL dot
Speaker 1: com slash a t n video. All right, Connie, playoff
Speaker 1: match you like to see? Mine is not nearly as
Speaker 1: passionate as Marks. But what I want to see is
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, how am I going to follow
Speaker 1: that up? I would love to see the Eagles and
Speaker 1: the Vikings go up against each other like the backup Bowl,
Speaker 1: Backup Quarterback Bowl case Keenum, Nick fools. Look, I don't
Speaker 1: think that. I mean, I think the Vikings are probably
Speaker 1: the toughest opponent for the Eagles to face. In terms
Speaker 1: of matchup wise because of that defense. It's just so good.
Speaker 1: But I would love to see these two teams play,
Speaker 1: which I think and I would mean, you're they're in
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game. I don't, I don't know about
Speaker 1: probably probably feel strong. You got the Rams sat Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like I kind of like the Rams. I really
Speaker 1: was going very nervous. Now the Nick foles um being
Speaker 1: more than competent makes me feel better about the Eagles. Uh,
Speaker 1: but nothing, it's just a split screen again. Look at
Speaker 1: that there's a sweat, say um, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do I think the Eagles are gonna make it to
Speaker 1: the NFC title game. I think they got banged, only
Speaker 1: gonna need one only gonna need to win one home game.
Speaker 1: Now they have it feels much more like an Eagles
Speaker 1: team that I can get used to. Your greatest fear
Speaker 1: has occurred and you can move on now. Yeah, now
Speaker 1: now I feel like, okay, this is right, it's true anything,
Speaker 1: but the pressure is kind of off now totally. If
Speaker 1: they win one playoff game with Foles, ultimately you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: that that's pretty great. You just gave up almost five
Speaker 1: yards passing Eli Manning gonna need to work on that.
Speaker 1: But so bad. That's like thirty eight year old Eli
Speaker 1: without Odell Beckham. I don't know what happened. I can't
Speaker 1: talk about it. Um all right, I will throw out, yes,
Speaker 1: somebody has to do it. Steelers Patriots playoff rematch, and
Speaker 1: but this is what I want. I now I have.
Speaker 1: I'm living with it. It's not gonna be in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: which is gonna be a major bummer in terms of
Speaker 1: leveling the playing field. But at least give me this football. Gods,
Speaker 1: you were jerks again on Sunday. You are the worst.
Speaker 1: You're terrible gods, You're godless God. Well, that's gonna that's
Speaker 1: gonna go over. Well up there, you're threatening the gods. Whatever.
Speaker 1: You gotta bring a sacrifice here. This is you know,
Speaker 1: this is my carback rooms. Josh McCown, broken left hand,
Speaker 1: Bryce Patty and Christian Hackenburg bring it on anyway. Give
Speaker 1: me Antonio Brown as Antonio Brown in that game. I
Speaker 1: don't know you heard him fix him for that game.
Speaker 1: Give me Levy on Bell. I don't want him on
Speaker 1: the exercise bike in the second quarter. I want Levy
Speaker 1: on Bell. I don't want Tom Brady getting injured either.
Speaker 1: I don't want anything bad to happen to anybody. I
Speaker 1: just want both these teams at close to full strength.
Speaker 1: And I don't want the catch rule involved double screen.
Speaker 1: I don't want the catch rule involved. I don't want
Speaker 1: any shenanigans. I don't want to fold it into x card.
Speaker 1: I just want these two beasts of the a f
Speaker 1: C to play a game where the best team wins.
Speaker 1: And we know definitively on a neutral field, it would
Speaker 1: be great. On a Hines field, it would be even better.
Speaker 1: Let's student Foxborough and let's fly. Just give me that football. God,
Speaker 1: That's what I want to say. If you, if you
Speaker 1: wanted to be even greedier, you could ask for a
Speaker 1: Bill's win in Foxboro this weekend and the Steelers still
Speaker 1: get home field advantage. And now, I fully don't expect
Speaker 1: that to happen. I think there's a very very small
Speaker 1: chance of that to happen. But it's football. The Dolphins
Speaker 1: waxed the Patriots two weeks ago. No one in this
Speaker 1: room would have even considered that as a possibility. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying they haven't clinched home field yet. There is
Speaker 1: a chance. I haven't even better scenario. Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: where you're going. Football gods. You want them to finally
Speaker 1: smile on you. Lots lose home field advantage the Todd
Speaker 1: Bowls and the Jets in week that would be you
Speaker 1: could dance around the newsroom. You'd be just stripping clothes
Speaker 1: off as you go. You have a great old time,
Speaker 1: Trust me, that did. I was looking at the schedule, Um,
Speaker 1: if that was at the metal ends, I'd like, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe it could. And there's there's a history of the
Speaker 1: Patriots doing that. They did it a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago and that was why they were on Denver. They
Speaker 1: totally blew up home field advantage at the end of
Speaker 1: If Josh McCowen was playing, I'd feel better about that.
Speaker 1: Even better in Foxboro, Bryce Petty or even better, Christian
Speaker 1: Hackenburg rose four touchdowns in England. One last thing to
Speaker 1: look forward to this Jet season. But I'm not obviously
Speaker 1: putting a lot of hope in that. Greg. All Right,
Speaker 1: I since we're so close and now we can really picture,
Speaker 1: you know, the match, I gave my whole dream wild
Speaker 1: card round, so I'm just gonna roll through it quickly.
Speaker 1: This is the that's possible entertainment for the Wild Car Ground.
Speaker 1: We got the Falcons at the Rams in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: It that's spicy. We got the Panthers and the Saints
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. Slob Chargers sneak in. Oh, this is
Speaker 1: a fun one, Chargers Jaguar. It's just a lot to
Speaker 1: like their. I kind of stuck the two teams that
Speaker 1: I'm not too excited about together, Ravens at the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: just to kind of okay, that's the bad game. That's
Speaker 1: the game that you know, I'm not too That looks
Speaker 1: with Joey Bosa Melvin coming on the edges. That is
Speaker 1: your Blake Bordles meltdown game. Chargers at Jack's. So that's
Speaker 1: my full weekend, and it's fairly really we're looking at this.
Speaker 1: Greg sent this to the producers. They have it on
Speaker 1: screen in front of us. You nailed this. That would
Speaker 1: be because because with that final matchup Chiefs Ravens, we
Speaker 1: don't want both of those moving on the other the
Speaker 1: double screen to screen. Oh my god, give me three.
Speaker 1: All right, that's scared. Yeah, Brega, this is our audio
Speaker 1: list completely off the drifting off by the minute. Oh
Speaker 1: I gotta go alright, hold on, that's it, for me,
Speaker 1: I have a very important meeting scenario. I cannot believe
Speaker 1: by the way you tell me your power ranking show
Speaker 1: is going through the playoffs. What are you gonna talk about?
Speaker 1: I don't know. We're going to rank everybody should watch it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna just you rank the teams that are out
Speaker 1: of the playoffs, like if the Patriots great question round?
Speaker 1: Can they still be ahead of like the Jaguars. It
Speaker 1: doesn't really make sense to me. I don't because then
Speaker 1: it's like before the super Bowl, we're just ranking two
Speaker 1: teams that can't be you know, I think we just
Speaker 1: we rank all the I don't know. I gotta go
Speaker 1: on show ye all right, by Connie, our long show
Speaker 1: ranking two teams by the time you get the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That is that that feels if you ever need, you know,
Speaker 1: extra guests. Mark's got a great sweater. There you go,
Speaker 1: Dan and I can talk about teams. See you later,
Speaker 1: Connie Fox all right. Finally, last thing before we get
Speaker 1: out of here. Yes, Kobe's number was retired. It really, um,
Speaker 1: said Colleen for a loop last night. Um. I did
Speaker 1: not catch the the festivities, but um, if you know
Speaker 1: anything about Kobe Byrne's career. You know that he had
Speaker 1: two numbers. He started his career as number eight and
Speaker 1: then um, about midway through twenty four he became and
Speaker 1: they retired both those numbers, which seemed a little bit unnecessary,
Speaker 1: but changing your number felt unnecessary. Whatever, Now, um a
Speaker 1: little fun whose number would you retire? The NFL doesn't
Speaker 1: retire numbers like the NBA and certainly like baseball. Um,
Speaker 1: they're a little bit some teams, for instance, the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys no retired numbers. Got a couple of candidates there. Um, So,
Speaker 1: but we are going to retire numbers, and it's not so.
Speaker 1: It's not like, oh well I retire M. It's smith.
Speaker 1: Let's let's take a little deeper. We'll start with you, Mark,
Speaker 1: whose number would you retire? It is offensive to me
Speaker 1: that when I have tried to sit through these Browns
Speaker 1: games each week, that a wide receiver who has already
Speaker 1: been you know, under in trouble this this year for
Speaker 1: uh staying out late and missing curfew and not really
Speaker 1: producing in his two seasons in the NFL. Corey Coleman
Speaker 1: is wearing number nineteen, which was once worn by the
Speaker 1: great at least great in Cleveland, Bernie Kozar the last quarterback.
Speaker 1: This is the problem in Cleveland people. People can't remember
Speaker 1: any good quarterback place since Bernie KOs are out. That's
Speaker 1: the problem in Cleveland. Well there are that's that is
Speaker 1: one of fe of the problems. So they've not found
Speaker 1: a quarterback. And it's true for a couple of these
Speaker 1: teams where you know, outside of one year where Derek
Speaker 1: Anderson signed some sort of deal with the Devil, Bernie
Speaker 1: Kozar has been the last guy you can look back
Speaker 1: on and say, hey, that was our guy. Would go
Speaker 1: to the stadium. You knew this guy was going to
Speaker 1: produce three hundred plus yards, multiple touchdowns every game. There
Speaker 1: was one season at eighty nine where they simply relied
Speaker 1: on the deep all almost exclusively. They couldn't run at all.
Speaker 1: He's been at three AFC Championships. I'm not saying as
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, but in Cleveland he is still
Speaker 1: attached to the team. He's still in that town. He's
Speaker 1: a hero in Cleveland. Do you want to talk about
Speaker 1: retiring a number? Number nineteen is not someone you're gonna
Speaker 1: give to a bunch of other quarterbacks and players anyway,
Speaker 1: Retire it now? I mean that have happened fifteen years ago. Statistically,
Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't rank with the all time grades, but
Speaker 1: he was an important player to the fans of that franchise.
Speaker 1: It's it's similar in some ways, although maybe he had
Speaker 1: higher highs in a different sport. But Don Mattingly is
Speaker 1: a beloved figure in Yankees history, not a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: didn't have the longevity, but they retired his number without
Speaker 1: thinking twice because he was so important to the fans.
Speaker 1: Kozar is a similar figure. Correct, get it right, that's fair,
Speaker 1: all right? I will um. I don't know, like do
Speaker 1: I think Wayne Crabet's one of the great wide receivers
Speaker 1: of all time? Certainly not, But he's one of the
Speaker 1: great stories of all time. And he came around with
Speaker 1: the New York Jets UM at a time, a very
Speaker 1: highly impressionable time in my life. I think he was undrafted,
Speaker 1: uh in nineteen at a Hofstra. The Jets used to
Speaker 1: train at Hofstra, and part of the deal with that
Speaker 1: Long Island based um higher education institution was they would
Speaker 1: be able to essentially submit a player from their roster
Speaker 1: to get a tryout, and that's how Wayne Crabet got
Speaker 1: in the door with the Jets. A horrendous Jets team.
Speaker 1: This was the first year of rich co type. Uh
Speaker 1: and rich Um went three and thirteen and year one
Speaker 1: and then one in fifteen and year two fired. After that,
Speaker 1: Um and Crabet was the one shining light of that
Speaker 1: ninety five season. The Jets get the first overall pick
Speaker 1: in ninety six and take Keyshawn Johnson. And one of
Speaker 1: the first things Keishan does after his rookie season is
Speaker 1: write a book uh in infamously titled Rowe Me the
Speaker 1: Damn Ball, in which he grouses that Wayne crebet Um
Speaker 1: was getting preferential treatment and he labeled Crebet as a
Speaker 1: mascot for the team. And as you can imagine, Crebet,
Speaker 1: who was at this point now a young star on
Speaker 1: the team and keisha on the number one pick in
Speaker 1: the same wide receiver room a little bit awkward, but
Speaker 1: Crebett always kind of was classy about it. He was
Speaker 1: a local guy from Garfield, New Jersey, Exit one seven
Speaker 1: off the Garden State Parkway, and and so it was
Speaker 1: just good to see him have a really nice extended career.
Speaker 1: He had a huge catch in the Monday Night Miracle
Speaker 1: game uh in that great comeback against the Dolphins, and
Speaker 1: later on when Keishan barked his way out of New
Speaker 1: York and went to the Bucks, Uh, he talked trash
Speaker 1: on Wayne Crebett one more time. UM, I think he
Speaker 1: had some Crabett had an unfortunate nickname like the Green
Speaker 1: Lantern I think it was, and Keishan made some type
Speaker 1: of negative comment and Curtis Martin on a halfback UH
Speaker 1: toss throw beat the Bucks in Tampa on the throw
Speaker 1: to Crabett to beat Keshan in their first matchup. That
Speaker 1: was really nice. So Wayne Crabett was a great Jet,
Speaker 1: unheralded Jet and a real underdog for the agent, and
Speaker 1: incredibly reliable three seasons with eight plus touchdowns a thousand
Speaker 1: yard a year, and honestly, he was always the Jet
Speaker 1: sky I get with Keyshawn Martin and he was a
Speaker 1: good player, but but Wayne Crabette was just so much
Speaker 1: more likable. I loved watching those Jets teams. The Crabett
Speaker 1: my favorite third down receiver in Jets history as well,
Speaker 1: God was Nails Greg. I think there is something about
Speaker 1: the slot, the small slot receiver that people just end
Speaker 1: up liking, and that's that's my choice to retire number
Speaker 1: in New England let's retire Troy Brown's number eighty because
Speaker 1: who is more of a Patriots player and more of
Speaker 1: the symbol of what happened to really turn around the
Speaker 1: franchise in the beginning part of the last decade. Then
Speaker 1: Troy Brown uh the first championship I think for franchises
Speaker 1: is always going to be the most special. And his
Speaker 1: performance in the a f C Championship Game, which was
Speaker 1: an even bigger upset than the Super Bowl to follow
Speaker 1: in terms of the pointspread and everything in Pittsburgh cantl
Speaker 1: one loss Steelers team where he returns I think what
Speaker 1: was his third kick of the year for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: He also picks up a block punt and laterals and
Speaker 1: that goes for a touchdown. One of the great special
Speaker 1: teams players made a great defense of play when he
Speaker 1: forced the fumble after an interception in San Diego, and
Speaker 1: those are the types of plays that Troy Brown would
Speaker 1: make year after year. In two thousand four, he famously
Speaker 1: played cornerback for much of the year when they were
Speaker 1: short on injuries. And to me, he is Mr Patriot,
Speaker 1: especially early two thousand's Mr Patriot, and I'd love to
Speaker 1: see him recognized pre throwne of ease. Yes, this is
Speaker 1: one of the Patriots. Weren't a team that a lot
Speaker 1: of people despised and hated to see win all the time.
Speaker 1: So Troy Brown was kind of plucky and like cbe
Speaker 1: and he was on the team for four or five years,
Speaker 1: five six years special team or before he really ended
Speaker 1: up doing something. People remember him as a thousand yard receiver,
Speaker 1: but that's like a long time before two thousand seven.
Speaker 1: And you know, he's the one of the first guys
Speaker 1: where you started seeing these think pieces in long forms
Speaker 1: about Belichick liking a player that you could use so
Speaker 1: many different ways. And there have been so many iterations
Speaker 1: of Troy Brown since, yet he's the one that we
Speaker 1: can all get behind because it's a time when I
Speaker 1: was rooting for those Patriots to beat the Rams, and
Speaker 1: I was rooting for them to beat those Steelers. Drew
Speaker 1: Bledsoe coming in for Tom Brady and that ANFC championship.
Speaker 1: All um, all those men we've just mentioned, Bernie Wayne
Speaker 1: and Troy shoulders of greatness. I gave that little shampoo
Speaker 1: company more than they were bargaining. I got it in there.
Speaker 1: Speaking of um former Patriots. I wanted to get this
Speaker 1: in on Sunday show, but we didn't did track down
Speaker 1: the Zolac call. Apparently his head did not explode. The
Speaker 1: w b Z color man, who last time we heard
Speaker 1: him on this podcast, he was celebrating ground giving another
Speaker 1: man of brain injury. Uh, class act all the way.
Speaker 1: That's Scotty Zolak. But now we assume and we all
Speaker 1: remember his call after the Patriots defeated the Falcons and
Speaker 1: overtime of the playoffs. Uh, that was a man in ecstasy.
Speaker 1: I would think Big Ben's pick would probably get Scottie
Speaker 1: fired up, right, Scotty too, Hattie going to go from
Speaker 1: the six office Perker Summer drops back to Pops Poppsy
Speaker 1: thrust of the Middle, its complete hitting something by heart.
Speaker 1: The Patriots are going to win in Pittsburgh. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to say anymore. I really don't.
Speaker 1: I really don't mean, old buddy. I guess part of
Speaker 1: the agreement if you're the play by play guy attached
Speaker 1: to Scott Zolak, is that every time I have a
Speaker 1: game altering, massive call, you're going to just talk over
Speaker 1: me in drunken shouts and have to make sure that
Speaker 1: your message know Superseeds line entirely Scotty two hotties all
Speaker 1: act with the call. All right, that's it. That's it
Speaker 1: for today's show. We um we will be back on Thursday.
Speaker 1: Oh a little program note um Our Sunday Flagship Flagship
Speaker 1: Show because it falls on Christmas messes things up. So
Speaker 1: there are four teen games on Christmas Eve. We are
Speaker 1: not going to do a show Christmas Eve night. We
Speaker 1: have families. You know, what are we doing. This is
Speaker 1: football ultimately, so we're gonna go see our families. And
Speaker 1: then there's um um is Daddy ever coming back? Also,
Speaker 1: we did We attempted this show in the past and
Speaker 1: the ratings were awful, great. So then there's two games
Speaker 1: on Christmas Day. Of course you will hear Our Our
Speaker 1: Flagship Show where we go over week sixteen. That will
Speaker 1: be Tuesday morning. We got the game, we get the
Speaker 1: Christmas game, get all the games in there, and hopefully
Speaker 1: everyone will be not so busy with the holidays and
Speaker 1: I think it will work out for every buddy. So
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a little a b test if you will.
Speaker 1: We're gonna see how you listeners respond to it. But
Speaker 1: yes that if this does poorly, we will be working
Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve next year. The calendar works out in
Speaker 1: our favor for the next year. Yeah, we we have
Speaker 1: a solid four or five year break till thank you
Speaker 1: Earth calendars back. But the next time you will hear
Speaker 1: from us is the regularly scheduled time Thursday, where we're
Speaker 1: preview all the week sixteen games. Until then, this is
Speaker 1: Dan hands As signing off four Quiet Storm, Connie Fox,
Speaker 1: the old Boss, you don't mess with a Fulton, and
Speaker 1: Christian Anderson behind the glass. It's tellt Thursday,