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Speaker 1: so we have some housekeeping, you know, another weekend, another
Speaker 1: night of staying up, getting in social media fight, really
Speaker 1: doing great on the resolutions. Uh you know what, it's Uh,
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Speaker 1: not worth it any dude. I just started a diary
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Speaker 1: I usually use comedy for like, you know, death related things.
Speaker 1: I don't want to broadcast to the world on Twitter.
Speaker 1: But I really I love I truly do. I bashed
Speaker 1: social media a lot because I think it's pretty toxic,
Speaker 1: but I truly do love Twitter. I love using it.
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Speaker 1: I think pictures should speak for themselves. I don't need
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Speaker 1: or whatever it is I post. I wouldn't do that. Um.
Speaker 1: But I love award shows, and so I was excited.
Speaker 1: I went home to watch the Golden Globes. I missed
Speaker 1: the first half of it, but I got home in
Speaker 1: time for the second half. And I'm true I went, I,
Speaker 1: I don't go watch I don't watch award shows to
Speaker 1: like root against people or to like Nippick. I truly
Speaker 1: love award shows, like since I was a little kid.
Speaker 1: If I always cry when they give the best actress
Speaker 1: a word. Yeah, all I wanted to do was when
Speaker 1: you know, when when an oscar for like best Director.
Speaker 1: That's all I wanted, you know, That's what I wanted
Speaker 1: to do for a long time. And uh, unfortunately, as
Speaker 1: with most of my dreams in the entertainment business, they do,
Speaker 1: they do change because I get to know more about
Speaker 1: this business and a lot of it obsets me, and
Speaker 1: it's it's hard, and I feel very passionate about it
Speaker 1: because this business is everything to me. I get I
Speaker 1: I love it so much, but I have a very
Speaker 1: very tumultuous relationship with it because you started out on
Speaker 1: one side of it, the management, and it's also like,
Speaker 1: you know, this is really all I know. As an adult,
Speaker 1: I've never not worked. My main work has never not
Speaker 1: been in the entertainment business. And that's that's even before
Speaker 1: my first job when I was seventeen years old, I
Speaker 1: went to film school, immediately started in turning. You know,
Speaker 1: worked for twentieth Century Fox work from Michael Moore, work
Speaker 1: for you know conant like truly immersed. I've interned, I've
Speaker 1: been a p a, I've had this on reality TV show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've had the shittiest jobs you can have in the
Speaker 1: entertainment industry. And you know, now I have the best job,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, which is being comedian. Um. And so
Speaker 1: it's been The entertainment business has been very good to me.
Speaker 1: But I but I feel personally very invested in things
Speaker 1: that go on in the entertainment business. I don't know
Speaker 1: a lot about a lot of things. I feel very
Speaker 1: confident that I know a ship ton about the entertainment business.
Speaker 1: And you have you have a lot of insight that
Speaker 1: not specifically comedians have because I always turned to you
Speaker 1: with certain things because you know, one of the one
Speaker 1: of the little, you know, intricate things you learn is
Speaker 1: people will tell you one thing, but that's not what
Speaker 1: they mean. I'm like, that's so confusing, and it's like
Speaker 1: my interpreter for that. Yeah, and it's it's this great
Speaker 1: thing because you know, I had this job. I think
Speaker 1: I've talked I've talked about it many times. But if
Speaker 1: you know, never listen to podcast be where I was
Speaker 1: an assistant to a very you know, very talented talent
Speaker 1: manager for many years and then ultimately, at the end
Speaker 1: of my five years working there, became a junior talent
Speaker 1: manager for myself. Uh. And a lot of that time
Speaker 1: I was miserable. I think it also had to do
Speaker 1: with my age. And it was not anything about the company.
Speaker 1: The guys are great, the company was great. Um, it
Speaker 1: was just more like, yeah it was Christine, it was great.
Speaker 1: It was it was more just like not what I
Speaker 1: wanted to do, and I had to realize that by
Speaker 1: being unhappy. And um, it's also you know, just being
Speaker 1: in like your mid twenties and feeling lost. And so
Speaker 1: a lot of times I think about, like, you know why,
Speaker 1: I always like try to find a reason, like why
Speaker 1: was I Why did I leave myself in this unhappy
Speaker 1: position for five years? You know, and I was excelling
Speaker 1: at the job, but just not happy at it. I
Speaker 1: always think, well, there's two things I got out of it.
Speaker 1: Number One, obviously I met you, so totally serendipitous. Um.
Speaker 1: And then number two, it ended up that all this
Speaker 1: ship that I learned for five years, I ended up
Speaker 1: being able to use to build this like fucking fantastic
Speaker 1: career for myself. Uh, and really learned how to navigate
Speaker 1: it like independently, because like it's what more, what more
Speaker 1: do you need? Like to you know, talk about being
Speaker 1: an independent woman or even an independent person, It's like
Speaker 1: what do you need? You need? Knowledge is the number
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Speaker 1: you know, I didn't really need to go to school
Speaker 1: for most of this ship. Yeah, well, immersing yourself and
Speaker 1: it is the best education tool. Yeah, and so I heard,
Speaker 1: you know, of course, you know, like a couple of
Speaker 1: days basically they decided to all wear black to the
Speaker 1: Golden gold was like a couple of day. I think
Speaker 1: it was like three days before this decision was made.
Speaker 1: Is the initiative? Yes, so sashtag times up um. And
Speaker 1: you know, at first, you know, I learned about it,
Speaker 1: like honestly from like Lena Donalman's instagram or something like
Speaker 1: this was all. It was seemed very fly by night,
Speaker 1: and I was like cool, glather, Like I immediately thought cool,
Speaker 1: like glad they're talking about it. But then I quick,
Speaker 1: very quickly, as I always recommend everyone does, UM, kind
Speaker 1: of started to look into it, and it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what are those I didn't realize, so I turned It
Speaker 1: was about awareness of treatment in the industry section for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure, But like what I thought when I turned
Speaker 1: on the Golden Globes and saw that everybody was wearing black,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh Jesus Christ, like everyone does not
Speaker 1: feel passionately about stopping sexual assault. And I was like,
Speaker 1: and I started reading into it, and you know, you're
Speaker 1: reading stories about designers getting in fucking fights with other
Speaker 1: designers to get the top line the black outfit, and
Speaker 1: it just became what Hollywood is so often, and like
Speaker 1: why we you know, I think a lot of reason,
Speaker 1: Like for me on mynd, like why I wanted to
Speaker 1: do this podcast is because I'm just so after a bullshit.
Speaker 1: After being in the business for fifteen years, I was
Speaker 1: fucking tired of people telling me how I look and
Speaker 1: what I can say and what I can't say and
Speaker 1: walking on aggtulls all the time, like that's the beauty
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Speaker 1: very fucking contrived and the and it's like it's so
Speaker 1: it's like if you want to make to me, it
Speaker 1: was just like, if you want to make a power
Speaker 1: move to what Rose McGowan and list Milanna, they just
Speaker 1: didn't show up because were they invited? Was Rose McGowan invited?
Speaker 1: I mean she's saying she didn't show up. I mean
Speaker 1: it is Rose McGown. We haven't seen her some strawbreaker,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean BEFO. Yeah, I fucking love her.
Speaker 1: She's truly like one of my favorite people in the world.
Speaker 1: But you know, Asia are agenta that I thought she
Speaker 1: wasn't invited. She wasn't. At least they didn't consult her
Speaker 1: with the time's up movements. They didn't talk to them.
Speaker 1: Well usually our gento is just kind of out of
Speaker 1: the loop. And but you know, she's best us with
Speaker 1: Rose McGown. But basically, I mean the people who were
Speaker 1: fucking taking a real seriously, we're just like not showing up.
Speaker 1: And I think that's like to me, that's like, it's
Speaker 1: not it takes a strong person not to go to
Speaker 1: a fucking awards show. That's being there is a it's
Speaker 1: a it's a networking event you have being president, it's FaceTime,
Speaker 1: it's going and looking hot, it's it's kind of going
Speaker 1: in with everyone. So you know, to just go to
Speaker 1: an event in like a really chic black outfit, it's
Speaker 1: to look amazing it and like have your it. Just
Speaker 1: it left the taste in my mouth, the reason why
Speaker 1: I left a bad taste in my mouth. And it's
Speaker 1: so good that people are shook by how much of
Speaker 1: an epidemic sexual assault is. And I'm so glad that
Speaker 1: so many people felt comfortable saying, you know what, this
Speaker 1: person you know assaulted me and they shouldn't be working
Speaker 1: with the fuck, you know, because sometimes you don't want
Speaker 1: to speak up for so many reasons that I get,
Speaker 1: And then the more people that speak up, you feel empowered.
Speaker 1: And it's good, it's great. Uh, but I have a
Speaker 1: hard time I just from reading our emails. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I know sexual assault in Hollywood is horrible and it's
Speaker 1: so important that we're addressing it, But can we fucking
Speaker 1: address the sexual assault that happens to women who aren't
Speaker 1: in fucking Hollywood too as well? In addition, because because
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's happening every goddamn day, and it
Speaker 1: and it's uh, I don't know, And then it's putting
Speaker 1: the it's putting the spotlight on people who deserve the
Speaker 1: spotlight as well. But there's also already had this on
Speaker 1: the on the rich hot white lady who you know,
Speaker 1: and and she she deserves the spotlight and she deserves
Speaker 1: to be have her voice heard for being of course,
Speaker 1: but and being assaulted is never easier just because you
Speaker 1: are you know, famous and powerful. But then I think
Speaker 1: you do feel in some ways there are more things
Speaker 1: that the more power you have, the more things you
Speaker 1: can do about something that is crime. Yeah, and there,
Speaker 1: I guess you could say privilege. But it's good that
Speaker 1: they have this privilege. I'm so happy they do is
Speaker 1: that people listen to them, because oh my god, that's
Speaker 1: like a movie star. I can't if it can happen
Speaker 1: to her. I just you know, because I just see
Speaker 1: it everywhere in in people of every race, every economic status,
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Speaker 1: your point of like you know, kind of like these
Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote regular women. Uh, I was so happy.
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Speaker 1: that I tried to kind of like remind myself of
Speaker 1: was that Michelle Welling MS Toronto Burke. Yes, like Michelle Williams,
Speaker 1: who's coolest, ship really talented. You don't see her a lot.
Speaker 1: She's not trying, she's she's truly, I feel like, truly
Speaker 1: an actor and like, yeah, she was on Dawstin' screep
Speaker 1: wi we off to start somewhere and her performance on
Speaker 1: Dustin's Creek was amazing, great show. Um but uh and
Speaker 1: she brings Toronto Burke, who I you know, I think
Speaker 1: has kind of just like not been not talked about,
Speaker 1: you know, the meat too thing kind of it act
Speaker 1: like the people acted like it just popped up last year.
Speaker 1: It's been around since two thousand and six. To bark
Speaker 1: started it, I was like her website accident, like not accidentally,
Speaker 1: but she used that as a tool to actually have
Speaker 1: the conversations. She wasn't like I'm going to make this
Speaker 1: a hashtag and right maybe whatever, and even if you did,
Speaker 1: great because it's it's a it's a thing to help
Speaker 1: people relate and come forward. Yeah, And then everyone was
Speaker 1: just like she's the truth here and they're like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: isn't it great that we were talking about it? Like
Speaker 1: what does that matter? When it was started, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I think it matters to me if I was black
Speaker 1: women have been getting a shaft for a very long time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like constantly, you know, Uh, the industries are stealing
Speaker 1: things that people of color create. And so if we
Speaker 1: want to have a conversation about race, as this will
Speaker 1: later drip into, um, I think that it's like we
Speaker 1: need to be crediting people. It's like, yeah, we want
Speaker 1: to talk about it, but also like if you fucking started,
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Speaker 1: that's a details Radiohead was outed as rap. Uh so
Speaker 1: many women yeah, and um and it's it just it
Speaker 1: really just bothered me to see everyone with these buttons.
Speaker 1: And you know, the day after we find out, you know,
Speaker 1: James Franco and Ali Sheety had there was an altercation
Speaker 1: sexual there. So it's just like to me, it's like
Speaker 1: it's like if we make this decision, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: through our stylists to all we're black in a pin.
Speaker 1: It's very easy for the bad guys to seep in
Speaker 1: with the good guys and look like good guys. Too,
Speaker 1: very easy if all it takes to show that you
Speaker 1: can or about something is an outfit and a pin,
Speaker 1: and you're a fucking millionaire, possibly billionaire, like I'm not
Speaker 1: in ps and the interview the red carpet interviews were
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it felt weird. It gave me like a
Speaker 1: nicky feeling. But thank god fucking Nevor messing sense about
Speaker 1: Catsler because guys don't know she was an E host
Speaker 1: who uh this a little tangent, but she was getting
Speaker 1: paid half the amount that her male co host was
Speaker 1: getting paid to host an entertainment news show. And they've
Speaker 1: both been there the same amount of time, and it's like,
Speaker 1: what the funk? And I can't believe anybody talked to
Speaker 1: E News without bringing that fucking up and then they
Speaker 1: staying to the grual assault conversation, right, I mean, there's
Speaker 1: too many important people just don't know, and it's just like,
Speaker 1: I mean, like all they know is that they have
Speaker 1: to show up in black, and if they don't show
Speaker 1: up in black, think they're a bad person. Like the
Speaker 1: one woman wore the red dress and then was like
Speaker 1: getting thrown under the bus for that. It's just like
Speaker 1: we just keep I know, it's it's equivalent of saving
Speaker 1: the world from your Twitter account. It's not really, it's
Speaker 1: just like okay. And then so whatever, already you know,
Speaker 1: already in a bad mood and really truly went into
Speaker 1: it with a positive attitude. I was so excited to
Speaker 1: watch it. And like, honestly, I've been reading talking about
Speaker 1: this since Sunday because it's like I'm in a good mood.
Speaker 1: I've gotten over it, kind of talked it out and
Speaker 1: and and you know, also the pictures, numerous pictures of
Speaker 1: Oprah and Harvey wind seeing the day after did help me. Um,
Speaker 1: but uh so, you know, then I went I definitely
Speaker 1: went ham on Oprah on Twitter. And first of all,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm on record on this podcast is saying I
Speaker 1: do not like Oprah. I have not liked Oprah for years,
Speaker 1: and uh I no note about you. That was like
Speaker 1: a random fact I've always known about you. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: her and she's uh, she she doesn't like Oprah. And
Speaker 1: it's so funny because because I think Paula, like, you know,
Speaker 1: my my best friend who was not in the entertainment industry.
Speaker 1: She even texted me at one point because she misread something,
Speaker 1: and she goes, I see her on the Oprah train now,
Speaker 1: and I go what? I go? No, I was like
Speaker 1: talking to all the all of that I had that
Speaker 1: I don't like, open that I was against it. And
Speaker 1: then she was like, oh my god, I misread it.
Speaker 1: I didn't see the not She's like. And then she goes,
Speaker 1: glad to see you haven't changed, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, good, I'm glad to see I haven't
Speaker 1: changed either. Um. And the reason the Oprah thing bothered
Speaker 1: maybe because I just I just feel and like people like,
Speaker 1: give me, give me facts, give me a listical on
Speaker 1: why you don't like Oprah. I don't know. Haven't she
Speaker 1: ever just had a gut feeling that someone was full
Speaker 1: of ship. That's me and Oprah. But that's your opinion.
Speaker 1: And additionally, I have worked with Harpo, which is her
Speaker 1: now she sold the company, but Harpo, you know it's
Speaker 1: Oprah's company because it's Oprah backwards. Um, so Harpo is
Speaker 1: your company. And I worked pretty closely with that company.
Speaker 1: Never met Oprah, never worked with her. Directly, but did
Speaker 1: work with Harpo, and um, just there isn't there there
Speaker 1: is a It was a fear in the people who
Speaker 1: worked with her that to me really really really reinforced
Speaker 1: bad that she's not who she presents herself. It seems
Speaker 1: you and you've told me this long before we even
Speaker 1: started the podcast about this, and I was scared to
Speaker 1: work with the people who were scared of her. Oh
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Well it's it seemed like the equivalent of
Speaker 1: if you meet a woman who you know her and
Speaker 1: her boyfriend or partners there, but her partners abusive, and
Speaker 1: you can kind of tell it's till they look a
Speaker 1: little it's tend uh, you know, like they feel unsafe.
Speaker 1: No one should be working out of fear any time
Speaker 1: that I've been in and I've worked for people who
Speaker 1: definitely have been have bad reputations. Michael Moore does not
Speaker 1: have a good reputation, but I do. I worked for
Speaker 1: him and he was great, and and you know, and
Speaker 1: maybe and maybe have other people have. I'm sure people
Speaker 1: have lots of bad experiences with Michael Moore, but whatever,
Speaker 1: that is what it is, um, And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: Oprah never helped anyone. I don't. I don't, I don't.
Speaker 1: I do think a lot of times she kind of connects,
Speaker 1: puts her name in any charitable cause she's doing or
Speaker 1: you know, getting a ward, and you know, I think
Speaker 1: like when she makes donations, she makes sure everyone knows
Speaker 1: about it. Whatever. That's fine. You know, like if you
Speaker 1: have a lot of money, you're given a way we
Speaker 1: can let people know who cares. It's you're still doing
Speaker 1: you know, a good thing with your money. But you
Speaker 1: know you do to get rid of it for tax
Speaker 1: birthpasses anyway, Yeah, offshore accounts, because it's like she gave
Speaker 1: three million dollars. Yeah, she had to because you know
Speaker 1: how much her taxes would be if she didn't get
Speaker 1: rid of some of that ship place. Um My problem
Speaker 1: is this new thing. It's not a new thing. It's
Speaker 1: it's a very American thing to me that we were
Speaker 1: There are some certain celebrities, um that we worship as deities,
Speaker 1: and I feel like Oprah is definitely one of those people,
Speaker 1: and that she is a member of her own church.
Speaker 1: And I think I think that's dangerous. I think that's
Speaker 1: how we get into Donald Trump like situations where you
Speaker 1: just kind of blindly believe people for just because pedestal.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's you know, no matter who she's she's just
Speaker 1: a mortal woman. Yeah she's a famous one. And if
Speaker 1: she where ever made you feel good, like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want to take that away from you. The same
Speaker 1: as like I don't believe in God, but if God's
Speaker 1: doing good things for you, great, just don't make it
Speaker 1: do other bad things for other people. And U then
Speaker 1: of course he starts getting to racing. And I just think,
Speaker 1: like when you're a billionaire in a lot of celebrit
Speaker 1: is you kind you transcend gender and race and kind
Speaker 1: of like you kind of transcend being human in a way.
Speaker 1: And that's just that's just really really really dangerous. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I don't know anything about what it's like to
Speaker 1: be a black woman, and it has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with what I anything I thought about the globen globes,
Speaker 1: but I know very much what it's like to be
Speaker 1: a person in the entertainment industry and m just as
Speaker 1: you know, people got angry for celebrities being complicit in
Speaker 1: these assaults. As a member of this business, I just
Speaker 1: felt like I didn't want to be a part of
Speaker 1: uh worshiping these false gods. And that's just kind of
Speaker 1: what I That's what I want to say. And it's like,
Speaker 1: you look like Oprah. That's fine, but I like not
Speaker 1: like I don't feel about that. And and also I
Speaker 1: think it's because people were moved by what she says.
Speaker 1: I was one of those people because I do like
Speaker 1: Oprah and uh, and I think they feel like you were, um,
Speaker 1: maybe belittling how they feel. But it's like, well, if
Speaker 1: you're often and how you feel to me, and to
Speaker 1: me it just felt like it felt like a show.
Speaker 1: And it's like if there's one person I don't First
Speaker 1: of all, I don't believe anyone that high, as high
Speaker 1: up as Oprah didn't know about the Harvey Weinstein thing.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that people fucking knew, including Meryl Streep everyone.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe these people knew. You knew his reputation.
Speaker 1: I knew that he's like throwing staplers at assistance. I
Speaker 1: did not know that he was in salting people. I
Speaker 1: know he like if it's if it trickles down to
Speaker 1: the to the intern Karin knowing that Harvey Weinstein is
Speaker 1: a bad dude, fucking people at the top, Tippity top
Speaker 1: like Oprah new And it's like to me, every talent
Speaker 1: agent did everyone and if and and so, that to
Speaker 1: me is just like Oprah waited till her cecil cecil.
Speaker 1: I think it's Cecil, right, Yeah, so her cecil beat
Speaker 1: the mill award to make this. You know, obviously she
Speaker 1: knew what she was getting it, so very prepared speech
Speaker 1: about something that she as Oprah, as this deity we've
Speaker 1: been worshiping since the eighties. Then she could have stopped
Speaker 1: if there was one person who could have stopped it,
Speaker 1: who could have said something. To me, it's just like
Speaker 1: this was Oprah. So then to see her do this
Speaker 1: speech when the time is right and the cameras were
Speaker 1: on her, I was upset and that and I was
Speaker 1: and that's what I was upset, and and then I hate,
Speaker 1: I hate. I am trying so hard, especially in this
Speaker 1: new year, to think, uh, to not think of it
Speaker 1: as women of color and white women, to truly think
Speaker 1: of it as women. We are a group, we're together.
Speaker 1: I think it's insulting and weird to separate it's to me,
Speaker 1: it's very much similar when people say comedians and female comedians.
Speaker 1: That's so insulting to me. As a female comedian, and
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I'm sure fucking women of Clare
Speaker 1: have to constantly live with being reminded that they are
Speaker 1: women of Clara, and I don't want to constantly be
Speaker 1: reminded that I'm that I'm white either, and always feel
Speaker 1: bad about just the way I fucking popped out of
Speaker 1: my mom's pussy, Okay, and and and I and so
Speaker 1: it's not about that. It's not about that at all.
Speaker 1: It's about it's about Hollywood, very specifically power in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: people being complicit and and and and for so long,
Speaker 1: all I wanted to do is be famous. And I've
Speaker 1: really in the past four years realized that, like, if
Speaker 1: I want to continue to have an opinion, I'm probably
Speaker 1: not gonna be that famous. And I'm fine with that
Speaker 1: because it's so much more important to me to have
Speaker 1: an opinion. Well, the problem with Hollywood, Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: and it's and it's like if fucking open it and
Speaker 1: say anything, if Meryl Streep didn't say anything, I don't
Speaker 1: want to just immediately start clapping now like the moment
Speaker 1: everyone decided to adjust. It's a huge problem. And wearing
Speaker 1: a black dress isn't gonna fix it and we're talking
Speaker 1: about it. But also it's like, I don't want it
Speaker 1: to become the forever twenty one shirt that says feminism.
Speaker 1: I like, yeah, I like, you know, Rose McGowan is
Speaker 1: basically like I mean, you know, I'm sure she's blacklisted
Speaker 1: in Hollywood, like what you know, She's just like she's
Speaker 1: become this kind of like crazy person, and I truly
Speaker 1: believe it's because she's really like speak in some truth.
Speaker 1: And also she's like, you know what, fuck it, I'm
Speaker 1: not acting any She kind of made the decision. I'm
Speaker 1: not trying to be an actor. I'm trying to make change.
Speaker 1: I'm not and I'm not showing up. I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not showing up in full glam to do a
Speaker 1: little side interview that my publicists Sat Sah set up
Speaker 1: set up. Um. Yeah, I understand what you're saying, and
Speaker 1: I understand why. That's that's why I think, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: understand that because there's a lot of people who could
Speaker 1: have spoke up. A lot of people few would have
Speaker 1: their um, everything that they've created be taken away from them. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a few people would not be risking much
Speaker 1: hope is one of the people that wouldn't be risking
Speaker 1: as much because because she's she might be richer than him.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm I think she definitely is riching out. I mean,
Speaker 1: Oprah is a mogul and we're never gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: deny that great and she's done some really important thing
Speaker 1: and she when she was sexually assaulted as a kid
Speaker 1: and started talking about that on our talk show and
Speaker 1: like that ship is awesome and great, but I I
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. It's it feels it feels I
Speaker 1: mean fakeness and something people all being behind any cause,
Speaker 1: no matter what it is, even if it's not political,
Speaker 1: just to fit in, because you know, it feels feel that.
Speaker 1: It's like, it feels gross. And I'm like, why isn't
Speaker 1: anybody calling anybody out on this ship? And that's why
Speaker 1: when we go into meetings, Karina has to have a
Speaker 1: power with me before we go in because I will
Speaker 1: say what I think and and Karn you're you're more
Speaker 1: say what you think than I am. And you can't
Speaker 1: do that in Hollywood. You can't do that in this business. Well,
Speaker 1: I know, sometimes people don't even want to hear about
Speaker 1: sexual assaults and meetings. Mean it is laughable to me,
Speaker 1: it's lassable. It's like, oh, we want to all wear black.
Speaker 1: But then also, if you say something, you can't say
Speaker 1: a sexual assault on TV. It really can't say rape
Speaker 1: because someone it's it's not rape. Been a fucking meeting.
Speaker 1: You need to say rape. That's what exactly we need
Speaker 1: to say. Everyone should have warn a shirt that said
Speaker 1: rape on it. That's what I wanted to know. And
Speaker 1: there were a lot of times where we were going
Speaker 1: into a pitch meeting to talk about a project we
Speaker 1: were really excited about, and I would bring up rape
Speaker 1: was the first thing I brought up. Like when we
Speaker 1: get into people we email with every day that listen
Speaker 1: to the podcast, like rape is what I am very
Speaker 1: passionate about spreading harness of And you could feel the
Speaker 1: cringe and I'm like, but you know, how do you
Speaker 1: know how many people are being raped? Oh? My god? Like,
Speaker 1: and it's one of the reasons is because we can't
Speaker 1: fucking talk about it. This is a hypothetical meeting about
Speaker 1: a hype. It's a real meeting about a project that
Speaker 1: may or may not happen, probably won't happen. Don't cringe
Speaker 1: when I say rape and it come on, Yeah, really
Speaker 1: angers me to my core when people invite us and like,
Speaker 1: I love how raw you are, but not that raw.
Speaker 1: That's too raw. You've gotten too wrong. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of sashimi. That's so raw. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Podcast up Comedy. Yeah, you know, I constantly getting these
Speaker 1: things because I do want to talk with people, and
Speaker 1: I do want to hear what people have to say,
Speaker 1: and I do care. It's like, you know what would
Speaker 1: be easier. Everyone's like, it's not it's not on there
Speaker 1: trying to get attention. It's you know what would be
Speaker 1: easier than for my career, just not talking about anything ever,
Speaker 1: making some fart jokes and then doing a talking head
Speaker 1: on v H one. That would be so much easier.
Speaker 1: That would be great, But that feels disgusting. I don't
Speaker 1: like against your ground. I don't like going to bet
Speaker 1: to work the next day on three hours of sleep
Speaker 1: because I was in a hashtag war. That's not fun
Speaker 1: for me, don't I don't. I actually don't like. It's
Speaker 1: so funny because we've been talking about anger for this
Speaker 1: project that we're doing, and and uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: have a lot of it anger to be like, you know,
Speaker 1: a feeling that people enjoy and I don't feel that
Speaker 1: at all. I like sadness. That's my happy, that's my
Speaker 1: regular Just let me cry along current My happy is sad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like. Do you know what? Some people thank you,
Speaker 1: some people runs happy. Uh So anyway, well I'm glad.
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening everybody, And like, if I annoy you
Speaker 1: on Twitter, just don't unfollow me. I mean please, Sometimes
Speaker 1: I wish I could unfollow myself as one of the
Speaker 1: most current things. I get it. Somebody compile a list
Speaker 1: of quotes. Um, yeah, yeah, okay, you guys, Oh this
Speaker 1: fucking interview. I'm so excited that No, it's okay, no,
Speaker 1: you get get it out. Get it out, baby. We're
Speaker 1: really excited about this interview that you're about to hear. Um.
Speaker 1: I met this guy came to a Glarapa's show, got
Speaker 1: on stage, talked about having one ball, and I was like,
Speaker 1: quaw uh. He is the founder of an award winning
Speaker 1: app called beam b I E m asn't Mary. That
Speaker 1: is changing the way we talk about sexually transmitted infections, diseases,
Speaker 1: whatever fun you want to call him today okay, And
Speaker 1: he's making this conversation easier by implementing technology. And he's
Speaker 1: really smart. He's got a great head on his shoulder.
Speaker 1: He's very tall, and he's had cancer. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: please welcome Brian Stacy like, oh, so as whatever and
Speaker 1: thinks East Jesus not quite ruin storm but never And
Speaker 1: I alone I heard he hits like card short Cavings
Speaker 1: on the private find about this save for you. I
Speaker 1: don't think it sid some whiskey art over makes him
Speaker 1: think he's got to my passage. I think I'm right.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I might be king in Carnard gold bodies
Speaker 1: arts are to ye. When you're with Brian Stacy, you're
Speaker 1: so tall. He smells so great freshly shower. Really, that's
Speaker 1: a honor. That's so nut. How tall are you? Damn
Speaker 1: You've got to reach up high to hug you? Is
Speaker 1: this a date or no? I know, I just fascinated
Speaker 1: by tall guys. A lot of guys. A lot of
Speaker 1: girls like love tall men. But I always find like,
Speaker 1: I'm just like I'm down here. Yeah, well some of
Speaker 1: some would go above yeah, which is which is kind
Speaker 1: of awkward, especially they're super short. Have you ever dated
Speaker 1: like a super short girl, never dated super short? Have
Speaker 1: ever sucked a super short very short? Like a problem
Speaker 1: or meaning it was a problem, a difference? Oh, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: not a problem. Someone is so a little person, someone
Speaker 1: who is different, different, different, height wise? Yes, what would
Speaker 1: you say? There was another person's worth of height in
Speaker 1: between you. Guys, it would have been a tall person
Speaker 1: if we doubled up. But yeah, wow, And the sexes
Speaker 1: is you ever have issues having sex with someone who's
Speaker 1: very short and you can't kiss them while you're penetrating them.
Speaker 1: I just can't imagin you having sex with a five
Speaker 1: ft person. Yeah, the memory of I don't think it
Speaker 1: was kissing, Okay in that in that particular instance. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fun. Um, so you let's talk about you first
Speaker 1: before we get to the app, which I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to talk about. Um. Where'd you grow up? Where are
Speaker 1: you from? Tell us a little bit about yourself. I
Speaker 1: don't really know nothing. Yeah. I grew up in Chicago. Okay,
Speaker 1: so the Midwest. I grew up family, two sisters. I'm
Speaker 1: the oldest, and I went to the University of Iowa.
Speaker 1: I went to Chicago to somewhere else, very exciting. Chicago
Speaker 1: is great, It is great. It is it is home
Speaker 1: for me. But man, I love New York. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean New York is better. Does this podcast go to Chicago?
Speaker 1: Were on the planet? What do you think? This is
Speaker 1: just this is a podcast that only New York is sporting.
Speaker 1: This is a regional podcast, right, yeah, hackers, Actually what
Speaker 1: a podcast is. It's not a radio show. Podcast is
Speaker 1: anywhere that has the Internet. This could go as far
Speaker 1: as Romania and the internet. Korea, So you're fine there.
Speaker 1: Don't offend any of your front any of your North
Speaker 1: Korean friends. That's the first time this is scam. This
Speaker 1: is the first time I've been happy. North Korea has
Speaker 1: done something very bad. Yeah, horrible to their people. You
Speaker 1: can't hear me. Yeah. What kind of sex talk did
Speaker 1: you get as a kid? Yeah, So it's probably one
Speaker 1: of my favorite questions because really, yeah, because I think
Speaker 1: it's it's such an important thing and I think where
Speaker 1: a lot of our fears and even drives come from.
Speaker 1: So in my family, we just didn't talk about sex.
Speaker 1: I know. That's like, have you have guy heard boys?
Speaker 1: The men? Yeah? Who are they? Now? Yes, of course
Speaker 1: I've had sex to you write. So my mom was
Speaker 1: cool because you let me listen to that song, but
Speaker 1: you interject. So every time they said I'm like love
Speaker 1: to you, she would look at me in the back
Speaker 1: seat the car, like after you're married, and you didn't
Speaker 1: love you in a cute way. But that was my
Speaker 1: sex talk. Wow, your sex talk was your mom interrupting
Speaker 1: a boys to men's song. Right wow, you got you
Speaker 1: in crash or during an R rated movie, right seeing
Speaker 1: and you put your hands on your eyes, you make
Speaker 1: crack of fingers. You can actually see it. But that
Speaker 1: was essentially what we grew up with. So it just
Speaker 1: wasn't talked about. So how do you know what learned
Speaker 1: what sex? Sex is? Well, we didn't have the internets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, do you carve something in stone? And
Speaker 1: I think we did what we did what we all
Speaker 1: did back then, and we experimented, talked to friends. You're
Speaker 1: talking like you're like sixty. I was like, you don't
Speaker 1: look very old. Okay, all right, So that was but
Speaker 1: that wasn't be growing up. That was pre pre internet. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean even I didn't even have the Internet until
Speaker 1: I was in middle school. So when was the moment
Speaker 1: for you when you first realized that you were attracted
Speaker 1: to women. Oh, I was at a friend's basement whoa
Speaker 1: and his dad had playboy nice who discovered it? You
Speaker 1: were the friend and was he like, Yo, guys, get
Speaker 1: a load of these titties. And I got a load
Speaker 1: of those titties. Wow, I put your load on the
Speaker 1: titties or I didn't then know, but I will say
Speaker 1: the first time disclosing this, I don't think I can
Speaker 1: get in trouble for it. Elusive eive. I was on
Speaker 1: a church bus going to a ski trip and I
Speaker 1: really really liked No, I really liked the magazines that
Speaker 1: I found at my friend's house. Yeah, and so I thought.
Speaker 1: I also realized that I had some power when I
Speaker 1: had those magazines because other guys wanted to check him out.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, currency, currency, women's bodies or your money. So here,
Speaker 1: I am backseat of the bus. We make a stop
Speaker 1: to get smoothies or something, and I was like, again,
Speaker 1: whitest field trip. I didn't know it was SMOOTHI until
Speaker 1: I was twenty four. What do you do? I didn't
Speaker 1: know what kill was. I moved to the scene. I
Speaker 1: could have been a snow cone and something smooth. Now
Speaker 1: you're speaking my language. So I see, I see a
Speaker 1: I believe the hustler on the top rack, and as
Speaker 1: you mentioned, I'm a little bit taller than other boys.
Speaker 1: Then so I took it, put in my pants and
Speaker 1: then ran back to the bus. You robbed the store
Speaker 1: of one hustler, is ship I did. And so now
Speaker 1: I'm back in the church bus showing my hustler to
Speaker 1: my friends, and they think it's the coolest thing in
Speaker 1: the world. So I think this is all coming up.
Speaker 1: This is all man, It's like a therapy. So yeah,
Speaker 1: we've been doing this for four years. So yeah, so
Speaker 1: I ended up showing that to friends on that trip up.
Speaker 1: I would bring it to lunch at school instead. A
Speaker 1: pretty young age and I'll never forget my dad came
Speaker 1: in my room one day, looks in my bag and
Speaker 1: pulls out this hustler and he goes, where'd you get this?
Speaker 1: I don't know. My friend. My friend gave it to me,
Speaker 1: and he's looked at me and goes, well, Lisa, no
Speaker 1: you're not gay. Oh, and that I mean, we think
Speaker 1: about this. So this is back in like eighty six,
Speaker 1: eight seven, maybe, and the narrative is very very different
Speaker 1: back then. And um, but what I took from that
Speaker 1: is hohobic. That's what I took from that. I think
Speaker 1: I think a lot of things have shifted since then,
Speaker 1: but I think the thing that didn't shift I said, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: well it's okay, interesting because then you maybe you unintentionally
Speaker 1: or subconsciously developed straight pride. Because then, because because with sex,
Speaker 1: guilt is such a powerful thing that can interrupt somebody's
Speaker 1: sex drive and how they think about sex. So right away,
Speaker 1: your dad's reaction probably instilled like, oh, this is okay,
Speaker 1: and that's wow, that's interesting. But you're not a monster,
Speaker 1: so that's good news. I was like, yeah, because it
Speaker 1: could be straight pride pride, but it also could be
Speaker 1: interpreted as long as I'm like very outwardly kind of
Speaker 1: like oggling women and showing like that I am a
Speaker 1: straight man in all ways, then I have my dad's accepted.
Speaker 1: Did you think then at all? I think that there
Speaker 1: is um. Certainly in the Midwest, there is this idea
Speaker 1: of what a man is, what is masculinity, And I
Speaker 1: think honestly up until just a few years ago where
Speaker 1: that that ideal has started to shift, and a lot
Speaker 1: of that has happened through me going through a lot
Speaker 1: of things. I've had some failures for business, I've had
Speaker 1: testicular cancer. I started this business, which has been eye
Speaker 1: opening and seeing things that I never would have been
Speaker 1: part of before. So I've seen a major shift just
Speaker 1: in the past few years of what I thought masculinity
Speaker 1: was and being that sports guy up there and talking
Speaker 1: to the women and and doing it for probably the
Speaker 1: wrong reasons. Never bad or in poor taste, but it
Speaker 1: also wasn't super healthy. Yeah. Yeah, when did you get
Speaker 1: testicular cancer? I got about five years ago. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: so because most men get testicular cancer in the early
Speaker 1: thirties with my dad has had tex particular cancer. Um,
Speaker 1: so you have one ball, one ball? I actually thought
Speaker 1: that's why you guys invited me here. Well, we do
Speaker 1: want to see your one ball if you're willing um later,
Speaker 1: But does that and so I mean, did that just
Speaker 1: losing a ball make you feel like less of a man?
Speaker 1: Or That's a great question, I mean truly, because I
Speaker 1: mean I think I think there's a lot of talk
Speaker 1: especially with like, you know, we had Caitlin On who
Speaker 1: got her breast removed, uh like pre cancer. Um. But
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, if if one of my
Speaker 1: parts that are So if that associated with generally, like
Speaker 1: when woman was removed, I would I would maybe feel
Speaker 1: like less of a woman. And I mean that's not
Speaker 1: what womanhood is. But how you identify? Where did you?
Speaker 1: How did you trouble with that? Or yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: they're the family jewels. I mean that's going a little
Speaker 1: too no very rarely do you hear ball anywhere? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: how did you? How did you know you had it? Um,
Speaker 1: that's actually a part of the story of how I
Speaker 1: ended up creating this company. But I started to feel pain.
Speaker 1: I mean it was a little as a dull kind
Speaker 1: of pain, not a lot different as if somebody hit
Speaker 1: me in the nut. So it's in the ball that
Speaker 1: was now removed. Wow, like what like a soreness? Like
Speaker 1: it was start pain. It was an aching that was
Speaker 1: intermitted a little bit. Did it hurt more or less
Speaker 1: when you jerked off or had X When they're towards
Speaker 1: the end where there was more movement, I could feel
Speaker 1: it more. The first time I noticed that as of
Speaker 1: the gym doing rose and I I was like, that feels
Speaker 1: a little strange. But here's the thing to say. The
Speaker 1: cancer moves really quickly and I waited three months from
Speaker 1: the initial team. Yeah, because you tell yourself stories like oh,
Speaker 1: it's nothing, it'll go away. My nuts have hurt me before.
Speaker 1: I mean, I played it as a catcher in baseball
Speaker 1: for a long time while hitting the nuts. Did you
Speaker 1: at least google ball pain? I did at one point,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, it doesn't sound like it
Speaker 1: because honestly, like if you google everything that's ever happened to,
Speaker 1: web MD always says cancer every time. So when did
Speaker 1: you finally went to a doctor? What pushed you to
Speaker 1: go to the doctor? Yeah? It took me three months,
Speaker 1: and the only reason I went is because a friend
Speaker 1: of mine is a urologist. He called me to made
Speaker 1: dinner plans and at the three month mark, I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: a quick question for you, I told him, and he goes, well,
Speaker 1: you're a fucking idiot, and I need to get you
Speaker 1: in to see my friend right now. I had my
Speaker 1: suit on, is going into the office and I said,
Speaker 1: I don't have time right now. I can do this later.
Speaker 1: He goes, you don't understand, there's been three months. You
Speaker 1: need to get in right now. Thank god, he probably
Speaker 1: knew immediately that it was test sicular cancer. He had
Speaker 1: a good I think he had a good sense. Is
Speaker 1: that in your in your family? As did your dad
Speaker 1: have it? Wow? No, it's nothing, nothing genetically related? Damn
Speaker 1: and so? And then how quickly did you get operated on?
Speaker 1: Two days? Wow? And what was your first thought when
Speaker 1: the doctor told you what it was? I had a
Speaker 1: lot of thoughts. The first thing, the first thing I asked,
Speaker 1: is what are my chances of survival? Right? You have cancer?
Speaker 1: The first thing you think is mortality? Am I going
Speaker 1: to die? He said, well, your chances of getting out?
Speaker 1: He's like, if you're gonna have cancer, this is the
Speaker 1: type of cancer to have. Yeah, for two reasons. One
Speaker 1: chance of survival. Oh that's great, right, and too, you've
Speaker 1: got two nuts and we're gonna take one. Is that
Speaker 1: what he said? You get two nuts? I don't use
Speaker 1: I've had sex a lot of people. I don't use
Speaker 1: the nuts that much. Maybe that's on me? Or do
Speaker 1: you like, do you use your nuts that much? How
Speaker 1: often you use? Out of all the parts on your body?
Speaker 1: If you like, how do you lose like a thumb
Speaker 1: or a nut? I go nut. It's less about the
Speaker 1: the using it and more just the day to day
Speaker 1: feeling there now. You only don't if you're doing like
Speaker 1: a selfie video for example. I don't know where that's going,
Speaker 1: but I love it. Yes, it's more of equilibrium. It
Speaker 1: looks more like the thing in the back of your
Speaker 1: throat now versus like a nice full sometimes easier after
Speaker 1: a guy comes. The sack is like compressed almost, And
Speaker 1: it really does look like there's only one ball and
Speaker 1: hard to tell us. And sometimes that ball the reason
Speaker 1: it looks like one is it actually goes up this one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did they show you your ball after they were moved?
Speaker 1: You know, because I was upset about this. But one
Speaker 1: more quick part on that I was diagnosed with not
Speaker 1: just a secular cancer, but he also said, and by
Speaker 1: the way, you also have chlamydia holy ship. The same day.
Speaker 1: So I was like cancer And one day Monday, when's
Speaker 1: the last time you had been tested for s T
Speaker 1: I S Leading up to that doctor's visit, I honestly
Speaker 1: couldn't tell you. It was a minimum of two years.
Speaker 1: Look at the merry up still look cute. Well he's
Speaker 1: got it. Especially when I talked to women and I
Speaker 1: tell them this, they're they're lies. Their eyes light up
Speaker 1: and all kinds of problems for me to fix. So
Speaker 1: here's here's I tell them. Guys don't have the gynecologists equivalent,
Speaker 1: But we don't have somebody we go to every single
Speaker 1: year to get our junk checked. Yeah, I guess you
Speaker 1: really don't because it urologists who checks your fifty years old?
Speaker 1: Was the Tom Green song? No joke? Thanks thanks Man's Armstrong,
Speaker 1: I mean between and Tom Green and Lance Armstrong. That
Speaker 1: was about it. What are the side effects of chlamydia?
Speaker 1: Did you have any? I mean I would imagine the
Speaker 1: ball paint would be first place to the any chlamydia
Speaker 1: side effects? But what did you have any? I didn't.
Speaker 1: I went in there only because I had the ball pain.
Speaker 1: I had no no symptoms whatsoever for lamia. And what
Speaker 1: did you What did the doctors say to get rid
Speaker 1: of your chlamydia? It was three pills? Nice? So did
Speaker 1: they find a claminia? They were because they were running
Speaker 1: like full bloodwork or okay? What are the signs of
Speaker 1: that you have chlamydia? If they show often it's burning
Speaker 1: when you pee, and it typically shows up more in
Speaker 1: males and it doesn't females to say I burned peeing
Speaker 1: on the time that it could be one of eighty thousand.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, yeah, our vaginas are always That's why
Speaker 1: women are so bad. That's what being a late like.
Speaker 1: Right now, it's on a pile of fire. Anytime, anytime
Speaker 1: I don't feel my vagina, it's a great day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: vagina is a good vagina. If I forget that my
Speaker 1: vagina is there, that means I have not been sexually
Speaker 1: harassed and I don't have a burning And I mean
Speaker 1: that's when does that happen? And also it's like nothing
Speaker 1: turned you on that day? Oh yeah, I like getting
Speaker 1: turned on during my day. It's a rare. It's so
Speaker 1: nice when it happens. It makes me feel live, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Um, so you get your ball
Speaker 1: taken out, and then how long What did the doctors
Speaker 1: say in terms of how long you could get back
Speaker 1: into sex, jerking off, whatever else you did with your balls? Well,
Speaker 1: when you think about a ball getting removing, like this
Speaker 1: surgery is gonna be super easy. They slit the sack
Speaker 1: and they pop the nun out right like a pepod.
Speaker 1: I mean that's what I was thinking, But that's not
Speaker 1: how it works. Okay, like a pastachio, right, But what
Speaker 1: they do is they go in from the top and
Speaker 1: they cut your almost like a c section, going from
Speaker 1: the top, and they take all of it out, including
Speaker 1: the including all the attachments and everything else. Did you
Speaker 1: see it, No, Because what they have to do is
Speaker 1: have to dice it up afterwards and look and see
Speaker 1: what of testicular cancer. It was, how many types of
Speaker 1: testicular cancer and they got to see how far it went,
Speaker 1: so they can give you essentially a rating. You've heard
Speaker 1: of stage one cancer, stage four cancer, right, So they
Speaker 1: give you a type of cancer and then a stage
Speaker 1: of cancer. Now I the good news I had a
Speaker 1: stage one, which is good. But the bad news is
Speaker 1: the type of cancer I had was a mix of
Speaker 1: four different types of cancer and that are really aggressive. Yea.
Speaker 1: So so on the day of my surgery or when
Speaker 1: they did the pathology and they cut it up, um,
Speaker 1: they could give me a percentage chance that I would
Speaker 1: have a recurrence, that I would get it again. Now,
Speaker 1: with testicular cancer, it goes up the side of your
Speaker 1: body from your nut to your lymph nodes. Cancer. But
Speaker 1: that's just hilarious. At your cancer nut l o l
Speaker 1: um to your it goes to your lung and then
Speaker 1: your brain. That's that's the progression. So when Lance Armstrong
Speaker 1: had cancer twice, it was because from the same ball,
Speaker 1: it just moved up as bo wait, didn't get his
Speaker 1: ball removed. He got his ball removed, but they didn't.
Speaker 1: That didn't stop. The cancer had already started traveling. Now
Speaker 1: we are roys. But yeah, that's the only thing. Um wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: So you're like, I couldn't have sex for a while
Speaker 1: because the surgery was intense, and then afterwards I had
Speaker 1: to have chemotherapy, which made me my seeming radioactive. WHOA,
Speaker 1: that's kind of like a brad So you can't put it,
Speaker 1: Like if you put it in a woman, what would
Speaker 1: happen bad? Do you know? A monster? Yeah, spider man
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I mean, I mean that seems like
Speaker 1: really dangerous. Your I mean, dix are already kind of weapons.
Speaker 1: And then you just amped it up. I was dating
Speaker 1: somebody pretty new at the time too. I was going
Speaker 1: through really played that cancer car probably pity this ship.
Speaker 1: She couldn't. But you can't break up with me. I
Speaker 1: have cancer, I would keep saying, take care of me.
Speaker 1: That is a great opportunity for a continuing Joe um, so,
Speaker 1: so after your surgery, you were in this new relationship,
Speaker 1: so you couldn't be sexually active with her because your
Speaker 1: semen was radioactive. So you're like a teenage meetinta turtle
Speaker 1: in a way. How soon after could you fuck? It
Speaker 1: took me probably about probably about three or four weeks. Oh,
Speaker 1: she's not that he stuck around? Stuck around? You think
Speaker 1: she really likes surely guilt? Oh yeah, yeah, she didn't
Speaker 1: really like you that much. Can't dump someone, we can't.
Speaker 1: Still very good friends? Yeah, yeah, still very good friends.
Speaker 1: I noticed not anything, nothing else. She's still afraid of
Speaker 1: my radio activity? Yeah? How long? Which doesn't isn't the
Speaker 1: thing anymore? Okay? I like that he really wanted to
Speaker 1: get that radio activity all of Chicago and surrounding areas,
Speaker 1: hear that, but not North North Korea. So how long
Speaker 1: did you take chemo after your surgery? It was a
Speaker 1: eight weeks and that, but you didn't have to wait
Speaker 1: until you were done with chemo before you could have sex,
Speaker 1: because no, it was it was about four weeks after that,
Speaker 1: after the end of chemo, and it was still very
Speaker 1: much protected sex. Yeah. Yeah, damn. Did they make you
Speaker 1: a jis in a cup to make sure your seman
Speaker 1: wasn't radioactive. They did. They know, they make you jis
Speaker 1: in a cup before you have a surgery because fun fact,
Speaker 1: even if you had nuts, did you cry? Was your
Speaker 1: tears the lube? Your tears got it? Buddy? Last shot? Um? No,
Speaker 1: my mom actually she came. I was living in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. At the time. My mom came took care
Speaker 1: of me, which is very sweet. But she drove me
Speaker 1: to the s bank bank prior to the surgery, and
Speaker 1: so she like, do you want me to come in?
Speaker 1: I'm like no, I could stay in the car. It
Speaker 1: would be great. Yeah, you know what you were going
Speaker 1: to do, right, of course, the only thing you do
Speaker 1: to spank bank. And what's the real name of a
Speaker 1: spank bank cryod cryogenic sperm freezy. I'm not bank. What
Speaker 1: did you watch? What did you watch to get you
Speaker 1: off for your last two nut run? It was awful.
Speaker 1: They I was in a I would say, a rough
Speaker 1: part of Virginia. It didn't have the best stuff. What
Speaker 1: did they have? So I tried, but I had to
Speaker 1: go j K. I love Virginia. No, I had to
Speaker 1: use I had to use um. Some of my old
Speaker 1: old notes, your memories, memories? Do you remember what I don't?
Speaker 1: Oh man, there's been so many times since then. We've
Speaker 1: got a book for you and you're done. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: So what sparked this interest in? So you have an app.
Speaker 1: It's called Beam b I E M. And it is
Speaker 1: about STI testing because that is always such a weird conversation.
Speaker 1: And when I look back, uh, you know, thinking about
Speaker 1: my boyfriends that I slept with, the buddies that I
Speaker 1: slept with, especially early on, I didn't have that conversation
Speaker 1: because I didn't know how. And so this is such
Speaker 1: an easier way to one actually find out if they're
Speaker 1: telling the truth. And uh and just to make the
Speaker 1: conversation was weird, I would think. So what went into
Speaker 1: the creation of this app? Yeah, So when I was
Speaker 1: going through chemotherapy and I started to write about my experience,
Speaker 1: Now did you have cancer all thrown at him? Um.
Speaker 1: So I decided to write a blog when I was
Speaker 1: going through chemotherapy because I had nothing else to do
Speaker 1: for eight hours a day. And that's yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: purpose of blog, blog about it. Um. And so I
Speaker 1: talked about my testing cancer experience, not my clamidia experience
Speaker 1: a good move. I mean you can give you should
Speaker 1: talk about it, that you should talk about them all.
Speaker 1: You know I should. But you guys mentioned there's a
Speaker 1: cancer card that you can play when you have cancer.
Speaker 1: People feel bad for there's no chlamydia card. You did
Speaker 1: something bad to get chlamydia. That's on you. But cancer,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that that sucks. Yeah, your wounded puppy with
Speaker 1: can you're a dirty horn dirty. I was like, there
Speaker 1: might be like a Clamidia card in Cars against Humanity,
Speaker 1: but that's probably the only time there's a Clamidia car.
Speaker 1: The Bucocky card and the Clamdi car. That's how you
Speaker 1: got clamenia. Um. It was blogging. So I wrote about
Speaker 1: this experience and that opened the doors to over a
Speaker 1: three year period of hundreds of conversations with people about
Speaker 1: their sexual health. What I who's your who's your most
Speaker 1: I do have to step in and say, how long
Speaker 1: ago did you have the cancer? I don't want to
Speaker 1: drinks you. This is five years ago in the clear.
Speaker 1: Oh so now we can make funny of her car.
Speaker 1: I mean easiest cancer. I mean that seemed very like
Speaker 1: you're like I had cancer for like two days I'm no.
Speaker 1: We had it for three months and two days. Once
Speaker 1: when we post a picture of you in this podcast airs,
Speaker 1: everyone's like, this looks like a guy who would only
Speaker 1: get cancer for three months two days. Everything good happens
Speaker 1: to the white straight manner. No, but I mean that's
Speaker 1: kind of be scared. It's still a scary experience. And
Speaker 1: you're getting a part of your body associated with your
Speaker 1: manhood removed. I mean, that's a lot of gotta be
Speaker 1: a mind fun. How much more fun do you get?
Speaker 1: And you because of this cancer story that you tell
Speaker 1: for you, well a lot of miles out of this one.
Speaker 1: Huh Jack on the rocks and I had can't I'd cancer.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I know you were there. You came
Speaker 1: to Glamour Pus, didn't you. Oh yeah, you came on
Speaker 1: stage and Wendy and I did our opening bit as
Speaker 1: when Nina and Simone and then we but we asked
Speaker 1: you for a fun fact or something and you said
Speaker 1: I have one ball and we're like, oh, comedy, the
Speaker 1: gods have given us Brian Stacy on our stage and
Speaker 1: we had fun with you. You were a great sport.
Speaker 1: It was it was painful, it was fun, but painful.
Speaker 1: What do we say anything? I forgot always said, I
Speaker 1: was saying that I was supposed to tell a joke,
Speaker 1: and I told I think I told the same terrible
Speaker 1: story about my mom driving you to the spank bank.
Speaker 1: And you're like, this is not a joke. Offer you.
Speaker 1: We were playing characters, so you're extra harsh. Um. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you're you from this blog, you get to connect
Speaker 1: it with all these people and they're talking about their
Speaker 1: sexual health. Are they're talking to you about s T
Speaker 1: I s at all? Mostly s T I? Yeah? Mostly
Speaker 1: s T I men or some women. At that time
Speaker 1: it was mostly men because men don't have an outlet
Speaker 1: for that ship, and I mean neither did women. But
Speaker 1: I feel like women talk to each other more and
Speaker 1: men need that women are women. From from what I
Speaker 1: the conversation, I've had a little more in tune with
Speaker 1: their body as well, whereas guys will just shut it down.
Speaker 1: That's because we're one with the moon. But yeah, so
Speaker 1: this block, this block, is this blog still up? It
Speaker 1: is what is it called one big nut dot com?
Speaker 1: So I asked, and but truly, how do you think
Speaker 1: people gravitated towards like how did it become so popular.
Speaker 1: So a lot of the talks were in person, and
Speaker 1: they're over the phone. Someone you would say, Hey, can
Speaker 1: you have a conversation with my friend blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of old school. Um. There were some
Speaker 1: comments in the blog, but not many on Twitter, and
Speaker 1: that's what happens quite frankly on Twitter. I'll do a
Speaker 1: direct message or something like that. Couple kind of one
Speaker 1: on one. What kind of questions were being asked to
Speaker 1: you about sis from guys? A lot of times it
Speaker 1: started with cessecular cancer, and then when I also mentioned
Speaker 1: I had chlamydia, they would start asking me questions about
Speaker 1: oh I had a time when yeah. Um, so they
Speaker 1: asked me all kinds of things about I've got I've
Speaker 1: got this feeling. Do you think of sisicular cancer? And
Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, so I could say, hey, here's
Speaker 1: been my experience, but I suggest you get get checked out.
Speaker 1: And I'll say, in almost all of the cases where
Speaker 1: somebody thought they had to secular cancer, they didn't. It
Speaker 1: was something else that went away. However, one of my
Speaker 1: best friends called me up started describing the symptoms like
Speaker 1: stop working with me, this is not funny. Turns out
Speaker 1: he had it to sicular cancer. You went and had
Speaker 1: the same surgery and everything else. So I had three
Speaker 1: roommates in college. One guy was born with one nut,
Speaker 1: two other head cancer. So between the three of us
Speaker 1: who hang out one nut club, did you guys get
Speaker 1: matching tattoos? One real you need like one, it'll be
Speaker 1: a tree with one balm on it um. So testicular
Speaker 1: cancer is common, I would say, then if from your
Speaker 1: experience it sounds pretty common, do you know how common
Speaker 1: it is? It's it's in a little bit less than
Speaker 1: one percent of nine. Wow, you knew all those men
Speaker 1: that it just seems like you're it's it's catching it
Speaker 1: from people, but it's contagious. Yeah, I was. I was like,
Speaker 1: let's just put a lot of inaccurate information. Okay. So
Speaker 1: and then this is the conversation about s C. I
Speaker 1: S didn't make you realize, Wow, we don't have a
Speaker 1: way to ease this conversation. So that that three month
Speaker 1: period where I started to feel something and then waited
Speaker 1: to go get checked out, I realized that what was
Speaker 1: stopping me was this anxiety of what could it be,
Speaker 1: or maybe we'll go away or worst case scenario, Right,
Speaker 1: innurance is bliss. Innrance is bliss. And what I realized
Speaker 1: is and all these stories I heard there was that
Speaker 1: same flavor of the conversation of this not wanting you
Speaker 1: to get checked out. So then I was looking in
Speaker 1: DC at the time, I moved to New York and
Speaker 1: I met up with my buddy Art, the urologist who
Speaker 1: I originally had the conversation with, and I asked him,
Speaker 1: I said, what's your what's your story with your patients
Speaker 1: as it pertains to sexual health, specifically STDs, and he
Speaker 1: goes Brian, He's like, I've got more dick picks in
Speaker 1: my phone than any woman in the college girl. He's like,
Speaker 1: because my friends, my friends and friends, my family members
Speaker 1: are all sending me cock shots asking me what's wrong.
Speaker 1: So people don't want to have the conversation. They don't
Speaker 1: want to go see a doctor because it's embarrassing. It's
Speaker 1: not something we're used to. So we said, all right,
Speaker 1: we think we're onto something. And that was the genesis
Speaker 1: of what is now being wo and so so yeah,
Speaker 1: what is it, what it is, tell us how we
Speaker 1: use it. So through these conversations we had to solve
Speaker 1: two problems. The first problem was making it really easy,
Speaker 1: convenient and judgment free to have a conversation with the
Speaker 1: doctor and get tested for STDs, because we figured out
Speaker 1: very quickly that if somebody isn't tested, they're certainly not
Speaker 1: going to have a conversation about it with a partner.
Speaker 1: Yeah right. There might be embarrassed if your partner comes
Speaker 1: to them and they are like, when's the last time
Speaker 1: you were tested? And if they haven't gotten tested the public,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go right right exactly. I almost feel like
Speaker 1: two because shame is so powerful that people might even
Speaker 1: avoid getting into sexual situations so they don't have to
Speaker 1: have that conversation. I have friends, uh, and people that
Speaker 1: we talked to you that have come to our live
Speaker 1: show that have had those kinds of weighs so heavily
Speaker 1: on them. They just don't want sex. They don't want
Speaker 1: to go through the trouble. Yeah yeah. And the other
Speaker 1: one on that on that front are people that do
Speaker 1: have an s T and they know, let's go say
Speaker 1: herpes too. A lot of times that the want the genital,
Speaker 1: usually genital, but they're like, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: tell the person, but I don't know when, and hard
Speaker 1: conversation conversation. So um so, the first step in this
Speaker 1: process was figuring out, how do we fix the testing process,
Speaker 1: how do we make that better? How to step one?
Speaker 1: Step two then is how do we start to change
Speaker 1: the culture around one of shame? And I don't want
Speaker 1: to talk about it. And I'm not an anxiety too.
Speaker 1: I'm actually proud and confident of what I had my
Speaker 1: my sexual health and being on top of your sexual
Speaker 1: health is sexy. I gotta say so my boyfriend that
Speaker 1: I have now. One of the first things he asked
Speaker 1: when we started hooking up was when was the last
Speaker 1: time you were tested? And he asked it to me
Speaker 1: with such confidence that I was like, Oh, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is I'll talk about it, okay, that's fine. And I
Speaker 1: never even imagined being that comfortable with that kind of
Speaker 1: conversation totally. And and that's the same thing that we
Speaker 1: realize when we were walking the streets and going to
Speaker 1: bars and talking about sexual health. As long as people
Speaker 1: have an excuse to talk about it, they have that
Speaker 1: container to talk about it's safe. Boom the stories. Will
Speaker 1: you guys know this better than anybody. I'm not familiar yet, Well,
Speaker 1: it is, you realize, Oh my god, there is a
Speaker 1: need for this conversation. Wow. And that's actually what I
Speaker 1: love about you guys, because you guys have taken a
Speaker 1: subject that can be very taboo. Uh. And thank you
Speaker 1: for having me on for sexual health, which is even
Speaker 1: a little less fun to talk about. I agree. And
Speaker 1: the more taboo, I would say, and more taboo um,
Speaker 1: But you guys put it in this awesome container of
Speaker 1: comedy and knowledge and fun people, and you're getting that
Speaker 1: word out there. And that's so important because there is
Speaker 1: no great way to talk about Yeah, people would rather
Speaker 1: have clementia than be bored. So do you know any
Speaker 1: stats on how common s t I S are, Like
Speaker 1: what the most common ones are? Bunny chance, like herpes
Speaker 1: is uh is something we get a lot in our
Speaker 1: email in box and uh, it really fucks people up
Speaker 1: mentally because it is this scarlet a. They view themselves
Speaker 1: as less sexy, less we less deserving of physical pleasure.
Speaker 1: And that's so sad to me. And and so I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's pretty common though, right, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean herpies just written large of the population has
Speaker 1: six and that's both types though both types and they
Speaker 1: may not be showing. Yeah, they may never show, but
Speaker 1: if you test, they would have it. And one decision
Speaker 1: that we made very consciously is what we don't test
Speaker 1: for herpies one in our app one. You can get
Speaker 1: it in multiple ways, so it's not just an STD
Speaker 1: but too it's so common. Why stigmatize it? Now, if
Speaker 1: you have herpies one on your mouth and you eat
Speaker 1: somebody out, you can't you transfer it? This has been
Speaker 1: and I have looked it up and I've heard, yes
Speaker 1: you can. But do you know it's possible? Okay, it's
Speaker 1: it is possible. It's not likely, Okay, really probably if
Speaker 1: you have an open cold store, though, you really shouldn't
Speaker 1: be doing I mean unless you're doing like no kissing sex.
Speaker 1: I mean you shouldn't be kissing anyone either who does
Speaker 1: not already have it. So it's kind of like you
Speaker 1: just like put the whatever breath on and lay low
Speaker 1: right for a couple of days. No, that's right, that's accurate.
Speaker 1: One thing a lot of people don't know, and this
Speaker 1: isn't isn't true, But okay, hit us with this kind
Speaker 1: of fact. If you have herpies one, it's much more
Speaker 1: difficult to con tractor piece too. Okay, how why do
Speaker 1: you say it's not meeting. It's not. It's not. That's
Speaker 1: not the case for everything exactly. Okay, but the likelihood is,
Speaker 1: oh wow, kind of like chicken pox. Okay, it's like
Speaker 1: an okay, vaccine. So if I download this app, what happened?
Speaker 1: All right? So here's you download the app. You register.
Speaker 1: By the way, it spelled beam B I E M. Okay,
Speaker 1: how did you get that title? It was? It was
Speaker 1: a loose acronym balls in everyone's mouth. Oh. I just
Speaker 1: came up with that off the cuff. I am genius. Oh.
Speaker 1: I thought he was saying that that was what it
Speaker 1: was for, and I was like, I need to leave
Speaker 1: one big nut dot com. Yeah, you never know a
Speaker 1: big big nuts dot one nut dot com. Over here
Speaker 1: you have an apples and everyone's um no, it stood stood.
Speaker 1: It was a loose acronym for break in case of emergency. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's much. It's kind of this idea where something's burning
Speaker 1: and what do I do? Boom doctor, get tested, get
Speaker 1: thing care of. Yeah, so I downloaded it on my phone.
Speaker 1: You register, answer a few medical questions. You set a
Speaker 1: time where you want to talk with the doctor video
Speaker 1: chat so you can do that anywhere you have an
Speaker 1: Internet connection. That takes about five minutes. I remember you
Speaker 1: were on jammers with when and Steven, and I remember
Speaker 1: Stephen had to go get the blood work. We talked
Speaker 1: to the doctor first and then you got blood work, right,
Speaker 1: and then the results come through the app. Exactly yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly yeah, So video chat with the doctor, they put
Speaker 1: the orders through, you go to the lab. Uh, results
Speaker 1: come through your phone two to three days later, and
Speaker 1: labs are common in cities. Quest Diagnostics is like everywhere,
Speaker 1: any Quest Diagnostics, any lab corp. They help you find
Speaker 1: the nearest location of a lab or do you turn
Speaker 1: to Google? Oh great, yeah, you selected all in the app.
Speaker 1: You put your insurance information in there and it's all
Speaker 1: in fun. Fact, if you're not insured because I got
Speaker 1: mad at my insurance companies, I just decided not to
Speaker 1: pay um the rest and so I don't have an
Speaker 1: insurance right now. But they a lot of them give
Speaker 1: out coupons if you're not ensured for like seventy percent
Speaker 1: off blood works. So like for me, like my blood
Speaker 1: work was like over six hundred dollars if I had
Speaker 1: to pay in a pocket, but I got it down
Speaker 1: to like two that included like a full full st
Speaker 1: I D testing. So I also noticed that you're calling
Speaker 1: them st d s. What the fund is the difference?
Speaker 1: Why are we calling them stays? Now? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't know what I cannot and cannot
Speaker 1: what a word do I use? Brian, help me. Std
Speaker 1: S and st I refer to the exact same set
Speaker 1: of diseases and infections are similar, bogs. Now, the reason
Speaker 1: that we've moved from the reason I say st DS
Speaker 1: is because people resonate with that more. I would prefer
Speaker 1: to move to s t I S, but people have
Speaker 1: the same question that that we're talking about here. S
Speaker 1: t I is sexually transmitted infection, and infection sounds better
Speaker 1: than a disease. Oh that's all it is. I fuck
Speaker 1: in shame. There was some scientific relation that I was
Speaker 1: changing my wording for, but it's just fucking everyone. Okay.
Speaker 1: I mean we should rename herpies because people really cringe.
Speaker 1: Um oh, I mean we've got we got we got
Speaker 1: the clap Yeah, how about a pocaduct slice? I don't know.
Speaker 1: S yeah, now we just not but now we ruined. No,
Speaker 1: we got orange soda that ship. Sorry, guys, one. We're
Speaker 1: going from herpies to go. We gotta make up a word.
Speaker 1: If you didn't feel bad, now you do it. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna make a snore nor no, no cute. I
Speaker 1: I could do nor nor easy almost want nor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I just the word. And I remember when I
Speaker 1: was in middle school even and we had the health
Speaker 1: we had health class and we talked about A C, I, S,
Speaker 1: C D S, whatever the fun they're called, and kids
Speaker 1: would start making jokes pretty early on about herpes. Herpes
Speaker 1: was always a joke if you were making fun of
Speaker 1: a kid on the playground, herpes too, and ever would laugh.
Speaker 1: The word sounds shitty. It's just not I mean, people
Speaker 1: need to be saying it more herpies, herpies, herpes. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I just hate the word because I hate what it
Speaker 1: makes people feel. Yeah, that sound very good, most fun
Speaker 1: because it sounds like diarrhea. I name I just I
Speaker 1: mean I like it. I think g's and under used letter.
Speaker 1: I mean we get into it. I play those scratch
Speaker 1: off cross where a lot of tickets and under years. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: what's what when when when we're doing the conversation with
Speaker 1: the doctor, the video chat, what is what kinds of
Speaker 1: questions is the doctor asking. The only thing they're going
Speaker 1: to ask you for sure is confirmation of everything you
Speaker 1: put in the app. Oh are you sure? Are you sure?
Speaker 1: Are you sure? It's like a Jewish mom kind of yeah.
Speaker 1: But if you have any questions, which a lot of
Speaker 1: people do, in terms of what tests to get, why
Speaker 1: you would get them, how you how things get transmitted.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know that if you get
Speaker 1: if you have sex yesterday and you'll get tested today,
Speaker 1: that's not going to show up. The window in which
Speaker 1: the the the s t I has to actually take
Speaker 1: root test depends on the STI itself. We can range
Speaker 1: anyway between four days to HIV can be six months,
Speaker 1: six months, six months, and that's actually We have another
Speaker 1: feature in the app called beam Connect where partners can
Speaker 1: connect and then in the app and then if your
Speaker 1: partnering gets just a positive for something, then your partner
Speaker 1: we'll get a notification, anonymous notification saying, hey, just an alert,
Speaker 1: you've got nor David contracted clamidius. You might want to
Speaker 1: go to the doctor now push alert. Do you know
Speaker 1: which of your partners it is? If multiple of your
Speaker 1: partners of yours are on this app, because what about
Speaker 1: that's a private matter. Guess who you mt in grew
Speaker 1: Glenn and he has glasses, Alexander off the l with
Speaker 1: the dick. He's not wearing a condom. Oh yeah, what
Speaker 1: a bummer alert that must be. But it is good.
Speaker 1: I guess now does it keep track of how what
Speaker 1: if you stop sleeping with that person because they broke
Speaker 1: your heart? Ah, well that's kind of the reason you connect,
Speaker 1: because there's things called one night stand. That's this is
Speaker 1: such a good idea. The notification itself, by the way,
Speaker 1: is anonymous. It does not say what st I. It
Speaker 1: just says one of your partner's got test positive. You
Speaker 1: should probably get checked out. That's it. But I love
Speaker 1: the guests great. I mean, I just yeah, this is
Speaker 1: so I'm I really love. I'm so glad you got cancer. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I am too, because it really is going to save
Speaker 1: a lot of Yeah, already saved. Yeah, it really worked out.
Speaker 1: But so if I'm on this app and my only
Speaker 1: one of my partners is on this app and I
Speaker 1: get herpies too, they're gonna know obviously they're gonna know
Speaker 1: it's me, but also should tell him anyway. So well
Speaker 1: that that's the thing and one thing we were really
Speaker 1: cognizant of when we created this is what are people
Speaker 1: that are HIV positive? What are people that hearpe is
Speaker 1: too positive? Going to think of this? Because when the
Speaker 1: results come through the app protect their feelings, boom is
Speaker 1: a red positive and bad You got as you got
Speaker 1: as you should do like your tie in where there's
Speaker 1: also once your partner gets a notification, you get a
Speaker 1: notifications like do you want to some flowers or that's
Speaker 1: a great time partner that how do coming here for
Speaker 1: product development? This is fantastic, that's what We're happy to
Speaker 1: be part of a group of flowers. Um. Well, so
Speaker 1: so when you sign up, so let's go through the
Speaker 1: rest of the signing up process. So you fill out
Speaker 1: a medical form. Then you have a video chat on
Speaker 1: your phone with a doctor who makes sure makes sure
Speaker 1: that everything is accurate, and then you don't have any questions.
Speaker 1: They'll find you a place nearby to get you tested.
Speaker 1: You go, you get the blood work. Now, how many
Speaker 1: different kinds of tests are there? Because you said they'll
Speaker 1: let you know which test is right for you. How
Speaker 1: I didn't know there was more than one type of
Speaker 1: way to say there's diffected. Yeah, there's different the st
Speaker 1: like STI from for me when I get it done,
Speaker 1: there's like HIV is always separate, and then like the
Speaker 1: climity going to read blah blah blah, that's on like
Speaker 1: a different tab, right, so they have to take blooks.
Speaker 1: I got too. I always get two bills and one
Speaker 1: is for HIV. And I'm like, oh, I know, I
Speaker 1: don't know I got one, but I'm like, I'll just
Speaker 1: while we're here. While we're here, since you're doing it,
Speaker 1: how many different tests are there, let's go nuts. So
Speaker 1: we do. We're sorry, we didn't mean you're catching on.
Speaker 1: We do nine different tests and and you can pick
Speaker 1: and choose do you want one of them? Do you
Speaker 1: want one of them? And here's one difference. When you
Speaker 1: walk into a doctor's office, like let's say a family practitioner,
Speaker 1: usually there's a negotiation involved. Hey, i'd like to get
Speaker 1: tested for everything. You don't need this, you don't need
Speaker 1: always heard that, Yeah, why the hell? So? So there's
Speaker 1: nine different tests? Is that? How? How? And they all
Speaker 1: test for a different ston times. If you're short on cash,
Speaker 1: you're like, I guess we're only getting the Gon area today.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, what do you check out lot?
Speaker 1: You have to put something back. I guess I'll put
Speaker 1: part of your sexual health on shelf until I have
Speaker 1: more money. Hepatitis A is pretty low this year. Can
Speaker 1: I run a leg for many of these? I don't
Speaker 1: know how urgent? These all great questions for our providers. Wait,
Speaker 1: it'spotitis A and s CIT. Yes, what the fun? Really,
Speaker 1: that's no joke. I know someone who died from you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how do you get that through fucking somebody?
Speaker 1: Obviously you can get other ways as well, right? Didn't
Speaker 1: do we get shots for that? Apatitis? Can't you get
Speaker 1: like if you if you like cut yourself on something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: have be your medical degrees showing everybody what are the
Speaker 1: side effects of hep A and or B. I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 1: you're going to say something really bad. You loose from
Speaker 1: your eyeball. That's how bad the infection is. Um, I've
Speaker 1: never heard of anybody getting that. But obviously you have
Speaker 1: heps is known in the older communities hepsi umpy. I
Speaker 1: have HEPSI. That's the group plus right now that is
Speaker 1: the highest rising rates of STDs in the country that
Speaker 1: a certain point. Who gives you. Yeah, But if you're
Speaker 1: going to go out with one bang, you don't want
Speaker 1: to make your puss it while you're on. You know
Speaker 1: you don't have norm by seventy you haven't lived. Okay.
Speaker 1: I like that Norm's catching on. We're going to have
Speaker 1: to make it catch I mean that makes me very
Speaker 1: happy that the old people is sucking anyway. Um so,
Speaker 1: do you have anybody in the up eight bracket that
Speaker 1: has your app? We do not, damn it. I mean
Speaker 1: they don't know how to use the Yeah, my fucking
Speaker 1: mom asked me questions about signing the email. I can't
Speaker 1: imagine her ever being interested in getting sci app. It
Speaker 1: wasn't it wasn't a target market we were going out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's understandable. Try to put a where there's original on it,
Speaker 1: But put it in a candy. You bet it on
Speaker 1: a shell that's three goods and every time they open it, oh,
Speaker 1: you're getting the candy again. I see a science Okay.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that was a really good joke comedy. I
Speaker 1: really love anytime I can insert where there's originally. There's
Speaker 1: not a lot of opportunities in life to eat where
Speaker 1: there's originals or to insert them in. Oh god, I
Speaker 1: hope we get to where there's original sponsorship please all
Speaker 1: my year. Yeah they're underrated. Okay, well they need to
Speaker 1: start targeting to a younger im work. Did I think
Speaker 1: it's like die? Yeah? Um okay, sorry, we got off
Speaker 1: on a tangent of hepatitis and where there's original. So
Speaker 1: most of the people use this epper younger, which makes
Speaker 1: sense because they're the ones who are more like technology
Speaker 1: is just a bigger part of younger people's lives these days.
Speaker 1: So okay, so we go in that. What do I
Speaker 1: get an alert once the blood work has has been done? Um?
Speaker 1: I get a the app goes thing yep, exactly notification. Um,
Speaker 1: you've got a message in your app. You open the app,
Speaker 1: results are in bing Okays, it doesn't pop up. You've
Speaker 1: got nor five red marks mom series like hy Christadia.
Speaker 1: You might want to take a look at this my
Speaker 1: series and Australian male that would that would be alarming. Okay,
Speaker 1: so oh wait, but the nine different types of tests
Speaker 1: that you can get are these all blood tests? Blood
Speaker 1: and urine would do both? Oh okay? And then so
Speaker 1: if I want all the different kinds of tests. How
Speaker 1: you just have to take extra vials of one for
Speaker 1: each of the panels is not the right word. It
Speaker 1: may be the difference between two vials and three viols Okay, okay, wow?
Speaker 1: And how many different stts are there? I know Planned
Speaker 1: parenthood dot org has a really good layout of of
Speaker 1: all of them. Does your app have that information on?
Speaker 1: The only two things that we don't test for is
Speaker 1: HPV And we don't do that for two reasons. One,
Speaker 1: it's a very hard test to do on women. It's
Speaker 1: mostly a vaginal swab. And yes it is good test,
Speaker 1: which is a funked up right, Yeah, it's just an
Speaker 1: in certain way. That's yeah, that's it's about it. I
Speaker 1: mean I had I had a regular pops mirror once
Speaker 1: and then I had to go to the dun every
Speaker 1: six months to get a colposcope where they took a
Speaker 1: little like trunk my cervix out or whatever they did.
Speaker 1: It hurt. It just felt like cramping. You didn't really
Speaker 1: feel like a part of you being ripped away, um,
Speaker 1: like you had your balls. Sorry about that, but yeah,
Speaker 1: and then and then eventually when the papsers normal, you know,
Speaker 1: my guy innecologist was like, right, back to once a year.
Speaker 1: I'm like, really, I'm cute with Yeah, I love this
Speaker 1: medical stuff. Really seems like a trial and error. I
Speaker 1: don't trust it for the doc. How do you fix it?
Speaker 1: I don't know, just keep taking service? So do you
Speaker 1: alert the people who use your app that is not
Speaker 1: testing for HPV and herpies one is the other one? Okay?
Speaker 1: And then why the herpies one? Because it's so common
Speaker 1: it's it's one. It's so common to you can easily
Speaker 1: have it your entire life and never show symptoms. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's more so on that STI than anything else. Is
Speaker 1: that a different type of if you did for example,
Speaker 1: if you if you did test for herpies one was
Speaker 1: would that just be in a blood panel? Like that
Speaker 1: would be another thing? Okay, got it? Got it? And
Speaker 1: so once I get the results back and series like,
Speaker 1: we'll ask Christina, um, what what kinds of information do
Speaker 1: I get? Other than because actually I have a friend
Speaker 1: who recently got her STI test results back. It was
Speaker 1: emailed to her from the from the blood work company,
Speaker 1: and I was trying. I was like, oh, I'll read
Speaker 1: it because she couldn't figure out what Then it says,
Speaker 1: so it is you so fucking complicated. And then she's like,
Speaker 1: I guess that the doctor will call me. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's the only reason. Like days later, I'm like, she
Speaker 1: some of this stuff says positive negative, I can't understand
Speaker 1: what it's saying. Well, they call immediately if you have something.
Speaker 1: It's like, no news is good news? Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 1: which is slightly terrifying. It isn't because that's also instilling
Speaker 1: the ignorance is bliss concept really able to think about it? Right?
Speaker 1: And then it's also like they could someone could have misstyled.
Speaker 1: We don't know who's working there. Yeah, our purposes like simple, easy,
Speaker 1: fear free. Yeah right, So when the results come through
Speaker 1: your phone, it's super clear the name of the st I,
Speaker 1: the day you got tested on positive negative or knees retest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is what the kids need some of. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what comes down one is sad though, So if we do,
Speaker 1: if I do got some diseases s cd S, c
Speaker 1: d S, do you tell me how what my next
Speaker 1: steps are. So one thing that makes us a little
Speaker 1: bit dif friend, is that we are a full flooded
Speaker 1: sexual health medical company. And if you are just a
Speaker 1: positive for something. We'll send you a note say, hey,
Speaker 1: set up on a video chat, the video chat with
Speaker 1: the doctor, here's what you're gonna do, here's the here's
Speaker 1: your treatment, or here's your your plan of action, and
Speaker 1: then not until that conversations had when the results actually
Speaker 1: come through. So you're getting treatment on both the front
Speaker 1: end of the process and asking questions and everything else,
Speaker 1: and you getting treating on the back end if needed.
Speaker 1: Can you get a prescription through the Apple? Would you
Speaker 1: then have to visit a doctor? You can get a
Speaker 1: prescription all through the app. Now, wait, what if the
Speaker 1: doctor has to look at your junk via video phone?
Speaker 1: Does that happen? It can happen if you want him
Speaker 1: to look at something, did you take a picture and
Speaker 1: send it to them? Not? Currently, I would have to
Speaker 1: be live over a video. And part of that is
Speaker 1: medical requirements that are trying to meet. But I see
Speaker 1: that in the future being something that that will probably do.
Speaker 1: And what are your standards for like getting these doctors?
Speaker 1: I mean, for first of all, this is an app
Speaker 1: that you have to pay for. The app itself is free.
Speaker 1: But to do the chat with the doctor's okay? Because
Speaker 1: I was gonna say I was like, I'm sure these
Speaker 1: people aren't. That's reasonable, and you can pay through the app.
Speaker 1: You put your information, put your credit card information in,
Speaker 1: just like any other app, and then your insurance can
Speaker 1: be used for the test themselves. And so we suggest
Speaker 1: always doing that because, as care mentioned, that can be
Speaker 1: expensive if kin of insurance. Yeah damn. So so if
Speaker 1: we do have something, then it's another video chat with
Speaker 1: the doctor and then wow, you can get the prescription
Speaker 1: over the app. That really makes it easy. And what's
Speaker 1: great about that it's really a lot of guys on PREP.
Speaker 1: I don't know. If you don't, yeah, um, you can
Speaker 1: explain to the listeners. So right, So PREP is something
Speaker 1: that you can take if you are potentially at risk
Speaker 1: of contracting HIV. This is a pillow that you take
Speaker 1: every day, kind of like a birth control. It's great
Speaker 1: and you won't contract HIV if you come in contact
Speaker 1: with it. So it's a freaking positive. It's a free
Speaker 1: if you have a partner, that's positive. If you're out,
Speaker 1: you know, having fun doing your thing. I mean it is.
Speaker 1: There is there's no reason that anybody really need needs
Speaker 1: to contract HIV anymore, and certainly no reason for people
Speaker 1: to die from HIV. Yeah, so we're at that age
Speaker 1: where it is literally an education problem only and it
Speaker 1: can be solved. Is it an accessibility problem? Is PREP expensive?
Speaker 1: How do you get it? Can you be prescribe prep
Speaker 1: over the your app? We can't. I hope my future kid.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you know, it's like, did anyone
Speaker 1: was anyone mad at a ladd and when he took
Speaker 1: the bread? He was? Fun? He was, But we want
Speaker 1: to watch someone die? Yeah? True? That would have been
Speaker 1: a horrible Disney movie from start bummer. H Wow, that's
Speaker 1: really cool. That is a way to get PREP because otherwise,
Speaker 1: if you don't have that app, or there's no other
Speaker 1: service where you could talk to a doctor over the
Speaker 1: phone or over the video chat, you'd have to go
Speaker 1: into an office. That ship is expensive if you're not insured,
Speaker 1: and that could be embarrassing. Whatever. It shouldn't have a
Speaker 1: million reasons you wouldn't do it. Yeah, and we have.
Speaker 1: I got a voicemail yesterday from a woman and she
Speaker 1: called and she goes, I've gone to three different primary
Speaker 1: care doctors. I have her piece to already know it's
Speaker 1: been diagnosed. I want to retroviral so that it suppresses
Speaker 1: the virus, nobody will give it to me, Like, can
Speaker 1: you guys help? I was like, when you go to
Speaker 1: Canadian eBay, I mean joking, but like a lot of times,
Speaker 1: like birth controller has gotten so expensive or such difficult,
Speaker 1: so expensive, and I and I'm just like, I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure you can get the stuff from Canada, but I
Speaker 1: mean it's not technically legal, but you're not advising that
Speaker 1: you do, but you're saying it's an option for the illegal.
Speaker 1: If you're in between a rocket, a hard place, a
Speaker 1: rocket America. Um, wow, that's fucking great. Yeah, and so
Speaker 1: here and here's so here's the second part of the
Speaker 1: problem we're solving. So now we've made it easy to
Speaker 1: get the test done, get your prescriptions done, results are
Speaker 1: in the apps. So now you feel empowered. You're now
Speaker 1: little bit more confidence in what you've got, Little Hornia.
Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, because empowerment is is great and knowledge is power.
Speaker 1: That is the most cliche and true phrase in the
Speaker 1: English language. That's true. And then with with that kind
Speaker 1: of confidence in power comes a little bit of a
Speaker 1: different attitude with your partner in a great way. So
Speaker 1: the question I typically is, hey, Brian, like when do
Speaker 1: I ask the question whether my partner's been tested? Right?
Speaker 1: Is it? Like, Brian, I can't stop fucking? What do
Speaker 1: I do? Brian's like, welcome to my life. That happens. Okay,
Speaker 1: look at my dick. Do you think I have something?
Speaker 1: Can you feel that? I'm like, I'm not a doctor. No, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't sign up for this. Um. But so so
Speaker 1: now now we're in a place where the reason people
Speaker 1: don't like to ask their partner is they feel as though, um,
Speaker 1: they're accusatory. So, hey, when's the last time you've been tested? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because some times people do stay fancy way and you're
Speaker 1: like okay, right, and then here's the other one. It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: when's the last time you've been tested? Oh? Maybe feel bad? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you look like somebody that need to be what's the
Speaker 1: right tone to ask? So so here's what we say.
Speaker 1: We say, we said, just stop asking and start showing Hello,
Speaker 1: have you been doubted? Well if you put the onus
Speaker 1: on yourself and say, hey, I downloaded this app because
Speaker 1: I like to be on top of my sexual health
Speaker 1: and this is my SDI status. So um when alright,
Speaker 1: So here's what we found out from my clients is
Speaker 1: that of the time. When somebody shows the results, their
Speaker 1: partner reciprocates and there's no issue. The reciprocation might be
Speaker 1: like I haven't been tested in a while. When you
Speaker 1: go great download the app will be in connect and
Speaker 1: when you get tested, I'll find out if something's positive.
Speaker 1: Let's have fun and you will to more so like
Speaker 1: you will, you'll find out something's positive. So because it's
Speaker 1: good to be on top of it. But maybe I
Speaker 1: want to find out, like a couple of sex, but
Speaker 1: for my partner, can I connect the f I gets
Speaker 1: connect after Yeah, yeah, you have to connect with them
Speaker 1: and beam when you get tested, or yeah that I
Speaker 1: need I need a sex like you get tested right away?
Speaker 1: Of course, give me a second, you know, tell me
Speaker 1: before you tell him. Yeah, you know the big partner
Speaker 1: that is getting tested does have a twenty hour period. Dude,
Speaker 1: good good edition. Yeah we upgrade, Get up. You know
Speaker 1: you need a moment. You need a moment. Have a martini,
Speaker 1: talk abouttle with yourself. Right, you have exactly twenty four
Speaker 1: hours the clock starts. Well, you really thought of everything, Jesus.
Speaker 1: That sounds like you're in a room and sock. Oh no,
Speaker 1: what surprised you through talking to people use the app
Speaker 1: or anything that was bigger than you, hope not as
Speaker 1: great what we're expectations met exceeded, we think. I think
Speaker 1: it's the it's the it's the fear of people, um
Speaker 1: in general that is still associated with this. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, one thing we talk about is that every
Speaker 1: single STI is treatable. They're not all curable, but every
Speaker 1: single one is treatable. There's no reason to die from
Speaker 1: HIV is not a death sentence. Yeah, right, herpes, it's
Speaker 1: not a death sentence. Something will pop up every once
Speaker 1: in a while. That's it, and it's not. It doesn't
Speaker 1: say anything about your character, nothing about right. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: called nor. So it's fine. I'm gonna make up a
Speaker 1: better acronym because I will actually stand for something. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think nor's pretty good. I like nor would now
Speaker 1: I just think of Nori Davis and then I'm oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel bad that we've now made his name. It's
Speaker 1: Nori is nor Nor Nor Nor Sorry excuse me? Okay, So,
Speaker 1: so do you are you single? Are you in a relationship?
Speaker 1: What's ther deal? Single? Okay? Uh yeah, didn't you say
Speaker 1: something weird at the top, like a lot about the
Speaker 1: cancer or something. He was saying something. I'm like, we
Speaker 1: get it. You want to get fucked? No, I I'm
Speaker 1: glad we never had anybody. We didn't haven't talked about
Speaker 1: this esticular cancer at length. So that's great. Um, Now
Speaker 1: are you having sex with people? Do you have buddies?
Speaker 1: Do you have casual sex currently? I have a partner? Okay,
Speaker 1: so great? So so what was what? What is your
Speaker 1: conversation with them about this? Do you bring up the
Speaker 1: app first? Or is that how you me? I'm curious.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you my app. It couldn't be after
Speaker 1: I tell you about the time I had cancer. Good yet,
Speaker 1: listen to Brian, it could not be an easier conversation
Speaker 1: by my cancer when I was sped ridden. How do
Speaker 1: I think it was? You asked me just that that
Speaker 1: one time I got over cancer in three months? In days?
Speaker 1: I want to real I want to date? Game show
Speaker 1: and it's just how many times can Brian go on
Speaker 1: a first day? Answer? Wait? On average? How long do
Speaker 1: you think it is that you're on a date before
Speaker 1: you bring up the fact that you three and a
Speaker 1: half minutes? Use it if you got it, baby, use it,
Speaker 1: if you got as a matter of fact, on my
Speaker 1: dating at profile, you little side dog, I tasted for
Speaker 1: st d S on date in your in your dating
Speaker 1: profile profile. I like that. I wanted to do some
Speaker 1: market research before we launched Beam to see, hey, could
Speaker 1: this be a real thing? Yeah, and get feedback from
Speaker 1: from women, and so I put in std tested for
Speaker 1: std S on not looking to hook up? Just thought
Speaker 1: you should know conversation starter. Was that on your profile
Speaker 1: or one of the first things you messaged them on
Speaker 1: my profile was actually in the you had not looking
Speaker 1: to have sex on the profile too. I was looking
Speaker 1: for If that happened as a byproduct, that was fine.
Speaker 1: So did you put the results of those tests on
Speaker 1: your profile? So I know I didn't. I wanted I
Speaker 1: wanted to miss your man. Yeah, I wanted to spur
Speaker 1: the conversation tested rest ds. What was the result? Message me,
Speaker 1: You'll now have to go on a date with me,
Speaker 1: right dog, Cliffhanger. And by the way, also cancer, I
Speaker 1: don't ever forget about that cancer. So what does it
Speaker 1: say about cancer in the profile? Nothing about cancer in
Speaker 1: the profile. Well that's admirable. It's like second pictures as
Speaker 1: a picture of one ball cancer and all I got
Speaker 1: was one ball. Now have any did any women specifically
Speaker 1: respond to that sentence in your profile? Oh? Yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot of them? Really what did they say? If they didn't,
Speaker 1: they didn't say anything in like the intro lines, I'd say, hey,
Speaker 1: did you swipe right because of or in spite of
Speaker 1: my STD profile? Yeah, I'm trying to do some research
Speaker 1: on my app, bitch now, I'm just kidding. Uh, And
Speaker 1: what did they say? And so about of them were
Speaker 1: positive in some way, shape or form, like hey, but thanks,
Speaker 1: that's great, super like let's move on. And so it's sexy,
Speaker 1: Yeah there was by And I do want to jump
Speaker 1: in and say, you're also like really tall and handsome.
Speaker 1: So I would like to see this experiment with like
Speaker 1: an ugly dude. Okay, I know it's a podcast. I
Speaker 1: can't continually remind everyone how a handsome he is. This
Speaker 1: is this is the main reason I came here to Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so we can. I only have one. You know, let's
Speaker 1: you said it real well that time. I mean, but
Speaker 1: it's it's all funny. It's easy to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got it all, but look how hot I am. Yeah,
Speaker 1: No one wants to hear talk about her with gnaria,
Speaker 1: but look at this job. Straw min says, fun these
Speaker 1: balls say clamydia. But that's okay. I'm on a pill um.
Speaker 1: And would women message you directly and bring that up
Speaker 1: right away? Some some would right away? If not, I
Speaker 1: would prompt it. And so I said about fairly positive.
Speaker 1: They were like I just didn't even see it or whatever.
Speaker 1: And then of them I didn't read I swipe ray
Speaker 1: because I wanted to tell you you're an idiot, like,
Speaker 1: why would why would you put that on there? This
Speaker 1: is the stupid thing to do. You're making yourself look more.
Speaker 1: Were they mad because they knew that you wouldn't funk
Speaker 1: them because they were in your zone? Oh? Good question,
Speaker 1: current idea, you know, because that sounds like a lot
Speaker 1: of projecting. I mean women do it too. Women are
Speaker 1: nice and handsome, and I know you won't fuck me.
Speaker 1: Let's take a him, Let's take it down a few pigs. No,
Speaker 1: I've done that sometimes. I've been mean to people have
Speaker 1: crushes on I'm like, what am I doing? Knock you
Speaker 1: off your high horse? What would you say to those women? Oh?
Speaker 1: Those are those are some of the best conversations, because
Speaker 1: why do you feel that? And they would tell you
Speaker 1: answer would be good about this? You're so patient. This
Speaker 1: was I mean this was athetics four years after having cancer,
Speaker 1: so I had four years to kind of talk about it.
Speaker 1: That's a bachelor's degree worth it worth at the time. Interesting.
Speaker 1: And would any of them come around to actually going
Speaker 1: on a day with you, the ones who approached you
Speaker 1: and said you're stupid for putting that out there, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of I think, I think when the arguments wrong,
Speaker 1: I think, well, the ten percent. I to be honest,
Speaker 1: I can't remember if I everyone on a date with
Speaker 1: one of those, but a lot of the ones that
Speaker 1: were positive, yeah, I did go on dates with and
Speaker 1: I think I think the best response I got was
Speaker 1: some of I'm still like really great friends with. But
Speaker 1: she said basically, hey, I am a I pride myself
Speaker 1: and being an independent woman, and I take care of myself.
Speaker 1: But there's one area in life that I can't just
Speaker 1: take care of myself. That's my sexual health. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate you disclosing this up fine and being you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's so rare. I mean, what kind of how
Speaker 1: would the conversation go before you got diagnosed with cancer
Speaker 1: about STI testing would you be as up front you
Speaker 1: didn't even have it? Didn't you just use condoms? And
Speaker 1: you know, I mean if I use a condom? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I had bottomless sex when I so foolish,
Speaker 1: like I can't believe I didn't. And on top of that,
Speaker 1: when's the when's the last time? I mean, I asked,
Speaker 1: I asked a series of friends questions this question, when's
Speaker 1: last time you had sex with a new partner, completely
Speaker 1: sober for the first time, And there weren't a lot
Speaker 1: of Yeah, that was the that was the response I got,
Speaker 1: especially casual from impossibility thinking about all the times I
Speaker 1: blacked out, I blacked out double black Prussian, Uh, well
Speaker 1: too with casual sex. A lot of times alcohol is
Speaker 1: an ingredient in casual sex because people are nervous, and
Speaker 1: that's very understandable. I mean, it gets gray, it gets
Speaker 1: not gray when the person one person is drunk, you
Speaker 1: don't suck them. But but yeah, and then when you're
Speaker 1: horny and your buzz and the last thing you want
Speaker 1: to do is ruin that fucking buzz with a you
Speaker 1: got the nore? How's your nom it's really sex? I
Speaker 1: honestly thought it was like it kind of sounds like
Speaker 1: a fun sex toy, I think, and if and if
Speaker 1: it was some kind of an infection, definitely one that
Speaker 1: you got from an alien. Yeah, like it nor wow.
Speaker 1: So so that the idea with the dating app and
Speaker 1: the reasons that people should be doing this. We're working
Speaker 1: with a couple of dating apps now to integrate not
Speaker 1: what people's results are, but simply are you somebody that's
Speaker 1: sexually health conscious? Do you have the B map? Have
Speaker 1: you been testing the logo on the app or something?
Speaker 1: That's it? That's all you need to know. And if
Speaker 1: you know don't know what it is, you can google
Speaker 1: it or click on it or whatever. That's really smart.
Speaker 1: Stating apps are really a huge factor in sex and
Speaker 1: just be like a little badge on your profile, like
Speaker 1: that's like the verified badge because you feel good about
Speaker 1: having it because you're on top. So now we're starting
Speaker 1: to shift culture. Now we're starting to go from a
Speaker 1: place of shame that oh you should get tested to
Speaker 1: a place like, oh, should you've been tested? That's great
Speaker 1: and I'm great, that's awesome. That's really exciting. And that's
Speaker 1: are two things we're doing right. We're making it super simple,
Speaker 1: easy and judgment free and we're changing the entire culture
Speaker 1: on sexual health. And that's and that's one awards, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: we want We won an app Idea Award which was
Speaker 1: really exciting back in June, and then we were just
Speaker 1: nominated for an ex Biz Award UH sexual Health Brand
Speaker 1: of the Year. So I think that that's in and
Speaker 1: the awards in UH in l A. I think the
Speaker 1: middle of coming up next week. Actually, that's great. So
Speaker 1: that's the adult adult entertainment industry super exciting. Do they
Speaker 1: do ads on porn? They don't really do add I
Speaker 1: mean they do like ads for other porn, but you
Speaker 1: should advertise on a porn set totally. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: an Sporn Stars are beam approved the adult entertainment industry.
Speaker 1: They should do. They should be a beacon of how
Speaker 1: you do sexual health. The culture is great, the testing
Speaker 1: is great. I mean there's no shame involved because it's
Speaker 1: your lively. Yeah, and they get tested all of the
Speaker 1: damn time. And it's really and it's like so many
Speaker 1: people who can support, which is most people don't know that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I understand you wouldn't think about me. You
Speaker 1: go to website just to jerk off, but like they
Speaker 1: are so on top of their ses with the porn star.
Speaker 1: Yeah honestly, um wow, Well, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: talking to us. Is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: add or end on or did? This has been fantastic?
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for correct you miss an opportunity?
Speaker 1: What do you want to remind everyone of than you?
Speaker 1: I have one ball? Oh we didn't cover that, did we.
Speaker 1: You just had to be like, thank you so much
Speaker 1: and I wait why? Thank you so much. And you
Speaker 1: can find us on Instagram, beam team dot com. Okay,
Speaker 1: b I E M M T M okay and get
Speaker 1: tested check yourself. I think that's it. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: had cancer. God, I just came. Thank you so much everybody.
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to guys. We fucked the anti
Speaker 1: slut shaming podcast. Brian had cancer. I've been shaking hands
Speaker 1: and talking ship up and down on the rother goes
Speaker 1: the Eagle trip a nightcap at the end of another day,
Speaker 1: eating hot but nothing needs say. We live oncetars. But
Speaker 1: we're always thinking, like everybody's fearing for the best years
Speaker 1: of the line, because it's all of sunshine at Asteria.
Speaker 1: Call the all and tired in America. If the West
Speaker 1: goes is burning, then that he swells down. What she's
Speaker 1: gonna do before he ship goes down the banks? Fire
Speaker 1: mas sefy sile, every breaks the manna paused down on
Speaker 1: me and a loss the way, tell me what she's
Speaker 1: gonna do before it arries he in love, Sunshine and Seria,
Speaker 1: I'll remember it's on the screen, sleeping through the cool
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Speaker 1: thinking long Jos himself, Sunshine and sterea pion and time America.
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Speaker 1: slows down, what you gonna do before you should go down?
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