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Speaker 1: by a room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler and
Speaker 1: Chris Westling. What's up, boys, Hey Dan? Oh yeah, Championship
Speaker 1: Sunday is here? And uh, two games, one excellent game
Speaker 1: in the a f c um with a familiar ending,
Speaker 1: and one surprise blowout in the late game. And it
Speaker 1: made me. I was thinking, boys, uh, you want to
Speaker 1: throw another Hey Dan in there? Hey Dan like it? Um?
Speaker 1: I was thinking, that's the one thing, like nobody knows anything. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know, you could study the tape all season. You
Speaker 1: could look at trends in recent weeks leading up to games.
Speaker 1: You could study what happened last Sunday leading into the
Speaker 1: following Sunday. Really the only thing that you could really
Speaker 1: bank out ultimately is the Patriots and everything else is
Speaker 1: kind of uh, what do you call a toss up?
Speaker 1: You know, because look what happened in the late game
Speaker 1: today with the blowout, with the Eagles moving on, there's
Speaker 1: no way to really predict this game, but the only
Speaker 1: thing you do know is that Brady and Belichick are
Speaker 1: the goats. I think there's a lot to be said
Speaker 1: for as an analyst and what we do to look
Speaker 1: back on a game even tonight as quickly as the
Speaker 1: game ending thirty forty minutes ago and having thoughts, having takeaways.
Speaker 1: But when you shift into the Wednesday midday, Wednesday, Thursday,
Speaker 1: Friday thing where we have to start telling everyone exactly
Speaker 1: what's going to happen in the next wave of games,
Speaker 1: that's where we start to stumble because I don't know
Speaker 1: if the game. I think the game is probably at
Speaker 1: its peak in terms of unpredictability right now. And we
Speaker 1: have a show called Pick Them where we're regularly, overly
Speaker 1: confidently as a group will pick one team, we'll get
Speaker 1: them all wrong. And it's like, somehow it's not narrows
Speaker 1: down to mark. This is not just us, this is
Speaker 1: the entire it's entire football gods. I'll start with myself though,
Speaker 1: because if I'm gonna throw it at everyone else, it's
Speaker 1: like I had should be looking at my own, like
Speaker 1: insane predictions that don't come true in a weekly basis,
Speaker 1: playoff time delivers Uh, it's delivered surprises, it's delivered well
Speaker 1: played games. And I think in today's NFL the season
Speaker 1: seems to start a month late, where the preseason extends
Speaker 1: through the end of September because of the new rules
Speaker 1: from the from the latest c b A. You get
Speaker 1: sloppy football, you get poorly officiated games. Playoffs are delivering, though,
Speaker 1: and they and they delivered last year, that delivered before that.
Speaker 1: Uh that you know, soon we'll be talking about finances
Speaker 1: and rebuilding rosters. But for now, I'm enjoying these playoffs.
Speaker 1: And and as you stood, West, I know you are
Speaker 1: a not even a closet Patriot fan anymore. That is
Speaker 1: your new team. You were very you were happy in
Speaker 1: the downstairs today. We could all sense it that the
Speaker 1: Patriots found a way to come back, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: get to that game first. Well, as I've mentioned many times,
Speaker 1: my loyalty is to good football, and I love watching
Speaker 1: greatness in any sport. The Patriots are great, and I
Speaker 1: stand in all of what Brady and Belichick and that
Speaker 1: whole crew have accomplished. All Right, so this is how
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this. We're gonna go through both games obviously, Um,
Speaker 1: in uh why not chronological order, just for fun. We
Speaker 1: also have Greg Rosenthal. We're gonna try to get him
Speaker 1: on the line. He is in Philadelphia, Uh, probably is.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a he's a he's a little guy,
Speaker 1: but he's he's wiry, and he has that tennis background.
Speaker 1: I think it's in shimming up a greased up pole
Speaker 1: outside the link right now. I can see it with
Speaker 1: like a forty probably to get away from the drunken
Speaker 1: masses which are probably spewed all over that street, those streets, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So Greg's in Philly, hopefully still alive, and we'll try
Speaker 1: to get in touch with him and talk about the
Speaker 1: game he uh covered, and also his beloved Patriots and
Speaker 1: um also my you know here from Colleen to who's
Speaker 1: a fan and how exciting and this must be for
Speaker 1: her right now, but let's start. She might have a
Speaker 1: few inner just throwing that out there. Maybe maybe, And
Speaker 1: I always like to hoist that that idea on her,
Speaker 1: that she's constantly somewhat hammered. It's not true necessarily, it's
Speaker 1: probably true right now, not like way off though, it's
Speaker 1: you know, it's accurate more than than my football picks. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's start in New England on the throne of ease.
Speaker 1: Brady up under shutter, takes the staff. He play fixed twine.
Speaker 1: If he looks down the middle, he fires on the
Speaker 1: balls back on the ends by Daddy catching touchdown, Patriots
Speaker 1: to touch. He made the craft just inside the endline,
Speaker 1: and New Wigland is taking the lead. I love Tod Brady.
Speaker 1: Dandy played off him. It's so many stride, Oh my God,
Speaker 1: pulled together so like mom sochy, it's got so lack.
Speaker 1: He's just now. He's just openly professing his love for
Speaker 1: another man. W p Z with the call. But not
Speaker 1: just any man, of course. I love Tom Brady because
Speaker 1: playing with twelve stitches and his throwing hand. According to
Speaker 1: ESPN's Adam Schefter, and without Rob Gronkowski after the first half,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady rallied the Patriots back from a double digit
Speaker 1: deficit in a comeback win over the Jaguars in the
Speaker 1: a f C Championship game. Jacksonville had a twenty ten
Speaker 1: lead with twelve minutes to play in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: but their offense went quiet and Brady connected on two
Speaker 1: touchdown passes to Danny playoff Ama Amadala. Only Rob Gronkowski.
Speaker 1: By the way, who gave him that nickname could give
Speaker 1: a nickname so unoriginal, but it is accurate because Danny
Speaker 1: Amadal in the playoffs is insane anyway. So that last
Speaker 1: hook up in a defensive stand sends the Patriots to
Speaker 1: their eighth Super Bowl in the Brady Belichick era. West
Speaker 1: the Jags were up for the challenge, but Tom Brady
Speaker 1: did it again. Yeah, I think for three quarters. It's
Speaker 1: a lot like what happened in the Falcon Super Bowl
Speaker 1: last year. It's a lot like what happened in the
Speaker 1: Seahawks Super Bowl, where the other team was more athletic,
Speaker 1: made the Patriots look old, dominated the line of scrimmage,
Speaker 1: and he don't take out the kneecaps of Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: and he direct he shreds your secondary. He shreds once
Speaker 1: again a historically great secondary in the fourth quarter and
Speaker 1: wins the game. It is to me, it's like watching
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan after his baseball career in those last three
Speaker 1: years with the Bulls. What Brady has been doing the
Speaker 1: last three or four years in New England. It's just
Speaker 1: phenomenal to watch. It was really the idea I thought
Speaker 1: that Jacksonville, the way they were against Pittsburgh was loose.
Speaker 1: We are going to go for it. We're gonna put
Speaker 1: our foot on the gas from start to finish. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go for it on fourth down. We're gonna dial
Speaker 1: a pass plays down before you think we're gonna pass
Speaker 1: the ball, play action. All that stuff works. A lot
Speaker 1: of it was working today too for Jacksonville. The ground
Speaker 1: game was good, I thought. In that fourth quarter their
Speaker 1: final four possessions were three punts and a drive that
Speaker 1: ended on a fourth down in completion. This was the
Speaker 1: final four possessions for the Jaguars, and that was the game.
Speaker 1: It was the New England offense, a defense tightening up,
Speaker 1: Jacksonville playing tight on offends down the stretch, and then
Speaker 1: Tom Brady doing his thing. The last four drivest for Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Three plays nine yards punt, five plays twenty two yards punt,
Speaker 1: three plays negative one yards punt, and that's set up
Speaker 1: that you go ahead touchdown for New England because it
Speaker 1: was a bad punt, and then a return to the
Speaker 1: thirty and then Brady took it home. And then finally
Speaker 1: six plays thirty two yards and a turnover on downs.
Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine a play caller and quarterbacks stock
Speaker 1: rising to the meteorc degree that Blake Bortles and Nathaniel
Speaker 1: Hackett did for seven quarters until that final frame when
Speaker 1: they kind of went in the tank, and Bortles was
Speaker 1: part of the problem. Hackett's play calling was part of
Speaker 1: the problem. The Jaguars defense was part of the problem.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of blame to go around. But I
Speaker 1: do think you can look back at it and say, now,
Speaker 1: considering the Jaguars recent comments and the way Borders played
Speaker 1: with Hackett, that he's gonna be their guy under center
Speaker 1: next year. Two. Yeah, that's that's an interesting thought, because, yeah,
Speaker 1: he did play well down the stretch. He played well
Speaker 1: in this game, and I don't think it was all
Speaker 1: his fault. The counter to that was to what you're
Speaker 1: saying there, West is them Hackett. I thought he called
Speaker 1: the game scared once they went up and again it
Speaker 1: felt like at the heart of it was don't let
Speaker 1: Blake kill us here. But that's been a part of
Speaker 1: their whole philosophy for those seven quarters, even when they
Speaker 1: were playing well, they didn't want Bortles to kill it.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, and Bordles like, I'm glad the
Speaker 1: game just for narrative sake, didn't come down to some
Speaker 1: Grizzly pick six he threw because look at he's He's
Speaker 1: strung together some impressive showings this season and a couple
Speaker 1: that haven't been This I thought was one of his
Speaker 1: best games three three quarters in one of the best
Speaker 1: games he had ever played in a really rough setting.
Speaker 1: When you're going up against Tom Brady and one of
Speaker 1: the best coach teams of our the best coach team
Speaker 1: of our lifetime, this Jaguars team felt like they were
Speaker 1: going to take this game. But our in our newsroom
Speaker 1: was openly rooting for Jacksonville. I just think as much
Speaker 1: as I've seen our newsroom root for one absolutely because
Speaker 1: I been covering football, It's like you wanted this fresh
Speaker 1: narrative and you're going into a super Bowl. I mean,
Speaker 1: it just it made sense for a lot of not
Speaker 1: even just covering football, I believe, and if you follow
Speaker 1: Twitter and just basically around following the NFL, unless you
Speaker 1: were in that New England area. And one of the
Speaker 1: things I hate, it's so broie. People like hat wear
Speaker 1: shirts and hats New England versus everyone New York versus
Speaker 1: everyone that's stuff's annoying. It is kind of true what
Speaker 1: what's happened now with the Patriots, because everybody does want
Speaker 1: a new storyline. But it just like Wes said, they
Speaker 1: these teams and I think the last three playoff wins,
Speaker 1: uh for the Patriots now they've come back from a
Speaker 1: ten point deficit in each game. Um uh, Well that's
Speaker 1: not true. They were down seven against the Titans. But
Speaker 1: they've had a lot of deficits in these playoff games
Speaker 1: in the last few years, and teams just don't step
Speaker 1: on their throats. And I don't know how much of
Speaker 1: it has to do with the the aura around the
Speaker 1: Patriots and starting to get you know, ten s up,
Speaker 1: knowing how close you are to finishing off the team,
Speaker 1: and then how much of people Probably if you're listening
Speaker 1: to this podcast, you're expecting me to be super salty
Speaker 1: about the Patriots. And do I have a little bit
Speaker 1: of an issue that the Patriots got one penalty called
Speaker 1: on him in this game compared to nine for the
Speaker 1: other team. A little bit was bother me. A little
Speaker 1: bit they got away, I thought, with a couple of calls.
Speaker 1: But I am not taking anything away from the Patriots
Speaker 1: because specifically Brady and Belichick because everyone else can go out,
Speaker 1: everyone else can get hurt. We saw it last year
Speaker 1: when Gronk got hurt and Edelman was there to pick
Speaker 1: it up. This time they have no Edelman or Gronk,
Speaker 1: and I think every a lot of people thought, Oh,
Speaker 1: this this they're not gonna take. They're not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to handle this. But we saw it again Brady,
Speaker 1: I thought, Belichick and McDaniels kind of emptied out the
Speaker 1: playbook once Gronk exited. They got some trickeration involved, and
Speaker 1: they just went for it. And then when you have
Speaker 1: number twelve back there, greatness happened and two trick plays
Speaker 1: back to back at one point, and and and to
Speaker 1: go back to our news room, you could feel in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter that everything went even with Jackson bill up,
Speaker 1: everything went quiet because it's not that other it's not
Speaker 1: just that other teams don't know how to put their
Speaker 1: foot on the neck of the Patriots. The Patriots have
Speaker 1: been in these situations so many times. They simply ultra
Speaker 1: they had the ultra belief in themselves they're gonna get
Speaker 1: out of every one of these situations. And it's like
Speaker 1: they just spun their own reality at the end here,
Speaker 1: this was impressive to watch. Here's the darkest moment, uh
Speaker 1: in Foxboro at that that mall up there, when it
Speaker 1: really felt like we were watching a replay of the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh game. Uh, it's a seventh three score and the
Speaker 1: Jaguars are knocking on the door again. Let's hear from
Speaker 1: Frank Frangie and Tony Boselli of w j x L
Speaker 1: the game to Fournett running to the middle of the field,
Speaker 1: Lord's shoulders, Leonard Fournette, touchdown, but four yard touchdown run
Speaker 1: by Leonard Fournette, and the Jacks have extended the lead.
Speaker 1: Here at Julytte Stadium, it's fourteen three in the second
Speaker 1: second quarter at that point. Do you think if they
Speaker 1: call the game more aggressively the Jaguars are going to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl in the second half. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't ever detract from the Patriot's ability
Speaker 1: to come back. And what Mark said about experience, you
Speaker 1: can never underestimate in sports, the the expectation of winning
Speaker 1: and that DNA that you build over decades of being
Speaker 1: a dynasty, and you expect to win every single time,
Speaker 1: and then to be out coached and you see that
Speaker 1: delay of game penalty, you see the play calling change
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, and then you see Brady with no
Speaker 1: running game, with Gronk out like you said, Edelman out,
Speaker 1: playing with stitches against the best defense. All of that
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. He transcended the moment. Here's what Brady said
Speaker 1: about those stitches, Like I said, Uh, Adam Scheffy reported
Speaker 1: there were twelve of them and it was right below
Speaker 1: his thumb in a tricky spot. Uh. He was talking
Speaker 1: about it after the game. I thought, I have all
Speaker 1: the plays myon can end on a handoff in practice.
Speaker 1: Didn't come this far to end on a handoff. And uh.
Speaker 1: And it sounds kind of arrogant to say, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: bothered me, and when we had a pretty good game,
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't say that. Belichick, by the way, it
Speaker 1: was asked about the injury and the classic Belichick deadpen,
Speaker 1: he said this, I'm talking about open heart surgery here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just what what I early on to one thing
Speaker 1: that the Patriots took away I thought from Jacksonville was
Speaker 1: was Corey Grant early on giving them an element where
Speaker 1: and we saw this in other games too, where you
Speaker 1: look at these these completions for borders there seventeen was
Speaker 1: all yards after the catch, and they were giving him,
Speaker 1: you know, outside of crossers and stuff, these these little
Speaker 1: screen passes and dump offs that they were at the speed,
Speaker 1: they had more speed than New England's defense. All of
Speaker 1: that vanished down the stretch. And Leonard Fournette, who I
Speaker 1: thought he was, clearly not a hundred percent. He said
Speaker 1: he wasn't ran well in the first half of this game.
Speaker 1: They took that away too, and suddenly those long drives
Speaker 1: at Jacksonville Suddenly in the first half there would be
Speaker 1: five minutes left where Jacksonville is eating up the clock.
Speaker 1: It became New England's game to win, and it just
Speaker 1: scripted plays disappeared. And you had to give Bardles credit
Speaker 1: for the incredible prowess on third downs and going through
Speaker 1: his progressions like you don't normally see him. Uh, the
Speaker 1: Corey Grant plays, just Nathaniel Hackett dialing up all these
Speaker 1: protective plays to coom Blake Wortles, and that cocoon has gone.
Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter, there was one moment when Miles
Speaker 1: Jack recovered that fumble. They're up twenty to ten. You know,
Speaker 1: you were later in the game here and Jacksonville had
Speaker 1: a chance. Had that been the time that they took
Speaker 1: that thing down the field and punched it in like
Speaker 1: the same way they did down the stretch against Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: it would have been I think the game would have
Speaker 1: been different. Three and out, nine yards punt. Then the
Speaker 1: next drive, New England goes on an eight play eighty
Speaker 1: five yard march that puts them down. To me, that
Speaker 1: was the turning point because mentality has changed right there.
Speaker 1: I think for everyone that did feel like I was
Speaker 1: never thinking the Jagglers had had the game in the bag.
Speaker 1: But when Dion Lewis gets that ball stripped and he
Speaker 1: went into Belichick's doghouse right after that disappeared for a
Speaker 1: while you started to get the feeling, oh, they're gonna
Speaker 1: make enough plays on defense. And I think what also
Speaker 1: disappeared down the stretch was a pass rush because Brady
Speaker 1: was taking some fire early on, he was getting some
Speaker 1: who's getting hit at One sack in particular was memorable,
Speaker 1: and that it seemed like he was seeing ghosts and
Speaker 1: he it seemed like one of those bad Brady Super
Speaker 1: Bowl experiences against the Giants. But by the end of
Speaker 1: the game, he was having a clean pocket. This is
Speaker 1: Brady stats, by the way. Fourth quarter nine of fourteen,
Speaker 1: one thirty eight and two touchdowns, both of Mundola. Mundola
Speaker 1: went five for fifty seven uh in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: and that big punt return for twenty yards that had
Speaker 1: them almost immediately in the red zone. He follows that
Speaker 1: up with a diving catch in the red zone and
Speaker 1: then the toe tapping touchdown. Ammun Doli does is take
Speaker 1: pay cuts and make huge plays in the playoffs. Right,
Speaker 1: that punt return set New England up at the Jacksonville
Speaker 1: thirty versus wherever they would have been. Where the farther
Speaker 1: back you can get New England the chances of some
Speaker 1: sort of turnover, some sort of play that Jacksonville has
Speaker 1: been dolling up all year. If you're gonna ask them
Speaker 1: just to go thirty yards to to get ahead, I
Speaker 1: mean it's It was silent in our newsroom, and it
Speaker 1: was silent for me watching the game because I knew
Speaker 1: it was over at that point. What else is over?
Speaker 1: Nothing's over. This lockoff is over. I lost it to
Speaker 1: the three of you. I'll give us a triple lock
Speaker 1: lind the rare triple lock in one game number two West.
Speaker 1: This one's yours right here, baby, all right, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, a Super Bowl Sunday is a lot more
Speaker 1: interesting in one game lead for the Sizzler going into
Speaker 1: the final game. So we're not putting lockoffs into the way.
Speaker 1: This is where I would essentially lose the lockoff in
Speaker 1: some sort of bizarre tie after destroying people in lockoffs
Speaker 1: all season. Well, the lot this is this, This is
Speaker 1: how I that's my you want to hear my take
Speaker 1: on that is making up a rule in the middle
Speaker 1: of the season about what's the tiebreaker probably would affect it.
Speaker 1: How certain people might have might have done lockoffs, Like
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't have taken the Brown. I knew it
Speaker 1: was a tiebreaker. Well we'll find out. If we'll find
Speaker 1: out if the Super bowls a lockoff, it will get
Speaker 1: pulled into this trap a hundred times. Anyway, So one
Speaker 1: other thought, the Jaguars, hats off to him. I saw
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of you know, columns and
Speaker 1: tweets and all that, and I don't necessarily disagree that
Speaker 1: the Jaguars proved there for real. The Jaguars proved there
Speaker 1: here to stay. They probably are, but you never know
Speaker 1: how things are gonna change as we spin forward, and
Speaker 1: one thing that would kill me as a fan, and
Speaker 1: it did. It did bring back memories for me. You
Speaker 1: know what, I don't have a huge reference point with
Speaker 1: the Jets in the playoffs, but after that, when they
Speaker 1: lost in the a f C Championship in two thousand
Speaker 1: and ten, they had a third and seven with a
Speaker 1: chance to get the ball back down five and Ben
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger rolled out right and found a young Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: to ice that game. And Jets fans still live with regret.
Speaker 1: What if Sanchez Mark Sanchez, of all people, was on
Speaker 1: fire that day, got the ball back one more chance. Uh,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking as a Jags fan. On third
Speaker 1: and nine, the Patriots and even Romo, who was out
Speaker 1: of his mind exuberant in this game, borderline a little
Speaker 1: too exerbant for the first time, although I do respect
Speaker 1: how much he loves the game. Third and nine, Romo
Speaker 1: calls it out, well, I'm a little surprised they're not
Speaker 1: giving Brady chance. Just end the game here, They're gonna
Speaker 1: hand it off and I think it was James White
Speaker 1: or Dan Lewis goes around left end for eleven yards.
Speaker 1: Game over, you couldn't get that stop to give your
Speaker 1: offense one more chance, but you kind of get the
Speaker 1: feeling the Paths are going to close that game out
Speaker 1: either way. I think we all knew that in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. No, no, that's so terrible. Did you isolate
Speaker 1: the audio? I look at Chill Lindsey Fault. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you know what they're slogan? Is this year? By
Speaker 1: the way, they have one this year and you're gonna
Speaker 1: hear it not done? Is that the one not done yet?
Speaker 1: Something like that? So get ready to hear Belichick channing
Speaker 1: that two weeks from like Wednesday anyway. Uh So there
Speaker 1: you go. The Patriots move on one more. Uh gaudy
Speaker 1: tom Brady status. What a big man? I am little
Speaker 1: some maturity. I want to piggyback off of this. When
Speaker 1: you're doing whatever tom Brady has accomplished today, and whenever
Speaker 1: he fought through twelve stitches, you're right, you're showing a
Speaker 1: much You're you're putting on much more on display here, Dan,
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Mark um. I do not doubt
Speaker 1: your sincerity at all. It marked the fifty fourth time
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady has engineered a game winning performance, uh,
Speaker 1: leading the Patriots to win when they were facing a
Speaker 1: fourth quarter deficit or a tie. Eleven of those have
Speaker 1: occurred in the playoffs. He's just kind of he's in
Speaker 1: his own realm now there. The Patriots are in their
Speaker 1: own world historically they are. And I will save my
Speaker 1: flowery ist praise uh for the super Bowl in case
Speaker 1: Brady wins again about the power of sports and the
Speaker 1: meaning of legends in our lives. But Brady has reached
Speaker 1: the super Bowl in half of his sixteen seasons as
Speaker 1: a Patriot starter in a league built on the twin
Speaker 1: concepts of parody and socialism. You could take his career
Speaker 1: at two thousand nine biset in half and he'd be
Speaker 1: an automatic Hall of Famer. In each halves of his career,
Speaker 1: he's beaten twenty two different quarterbacks in the playoffs. No
Speaker 1: other quarterback has more than six team playoff wins, and
Speaker 1: in his last three defining playoff moments in the play
Speaker 1: in the postseason, he has dissected defense, has led up
Speaker 1: epic comebacks not by posting great numbers, but by controlling
Speaker 1: the game, picking on the right players, spreading the ball around,
Speaker 1: and just absolutely shredding great defenses. And you know, what was.
Speaker 1: I'm still not gonna watch his dope Facebook show Tom
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Speaker 1: Greg Williams had one of the more unforgettable die jobs,
Speaker 1: and in this case, it wasn't a good reason to
Speaker 1: be unfrea now but of an evil scientist look to
Speaker 1: him back then. But yeah, if they're going to reduce
Speaker 1: the gray, I just hope that you have the correct color, Dan,
Speaker 1: I hope that later I'm diving in just for men
Speaker 1: control g X. Let's fly there you go, Patriots, move on.
Speaker 1: It's all up to the Eagles now. And speaking of
Speaker 1: the Eggles, um, Colleen Wolf a hero an official hero
Speaker 1: in the Around the NFL podcast that also uh Pennsylvania native.
Speaker 1: I think she grew up outside Philadelphia and a huge,
Speaker 1: huge Eagles fan. And I contacted Colleen over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Mark would probably say, oh, she was probably drunk at
Speaker 1: that point. No, I think she. I think she's often sober,
Speaker 1: like when she wakes up potentially in the morning. Give
Speaker 1: me a percentage of drunk to sober Fox. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be fair here. I think that it is a very
Speaker 1: solid sixty. I reached out to Connie Fox this weekend.
Speaker 1: I said, hey, uh, in advance of the NFC title game,
Speaker 1: which I know you're attending. Um, I'm paraphrasing here, this
Speaker 1: wasn't the exact text. Would you mind sending me just
Speaker 1: a quick voicemail right before kickoff and immediately after the game.
Speaker 1: So as we get into the talk of Eagles and Vikings,
Speaker 1: let's start by time machine five minutes prior to kick off.
Speaker 1: Connie Fox's voicemail to the old user Dan. It's Connie.
Speaker 1: I haven't left anyone a voicemail like five years. And
Speaker 1: you know I don't really do this whole bone thing,
Speaker 1: but I gotta tell you I'm on the field right
Speaker 1: now in Philadelphia. That's not even a humble rag. That's
Speaker 1: just a great bag. I'm feeling really freaking nervous about
Speaker 1: this game, and I know Mark Tesslers through all sorts
Speaker 1: of staying against the Eagles and about the Eagles a
Speaker 1: few the Eagles. But listen, here's what I'm going to say.
Speaker 1: I think that there's going to win. I have a
Speaker 1: feeling if they're going to pull this one out and
Speaker 1: the Vikings they will not be hosting a hold super Bowl.
Speaker 1: This here, it's gonna soda everything. Eagles to do it,
Speaker 1: all right, So I'll call you after the game, stay
Speaker 1: right there. Five to the highlights. The slap here coming
Speaker 1: for wash He's hit and it's intercepted, gets picked off
Speaker 1: by Robinson. Robinson at the fund Puts Park, of course
Speaker 1: the field. Patrick Robinson looks for a block. Now he's
Speaker 1: at the truby. He's at the fifteen. The top of
Speaker 1: five tips Doyle pid Robinson. There's the first of the
Speaker 1: septions by an active Eagle him play offst What a
Speaker 1: huge play that was. For the second straight week, the
Speaker 1: Eagles were underdogs in their own building, and for the
Speaker 1: second straight week, they made everyone look like idiots. Nick
Speaker 1: Foles played the game of his life, throwing for three
Speaker 1: fifty two yards, three touchdowns, and are passer rating north
Speaker 1: of one forty against the NFL's top ranked defense, no less,
Speaker 1: a dominant performance that powered the Eagles to a thirty
Speaker 1: eight seven win over the Vikings. Who to use a
Speaker 1: maddinism must be wondering where did that truck come from? Mark?
Speaker 1: This game started with they masterfil touchdown drive by case
Speaker 1: Keenum and then everything changed. Oh that drive was I mean,
Speaker 1: it's utterly forgotten at this point, but it was pristine.
Speaker 1: It was something that made you think the Vikings are
Speaker 1: going to come out of here with thirty something points
Speaker 1: in this game if they played this way, the pick
Speaker 1: six happens, and then from there they have essentially a
Speaker 1: punt three and out, punt three and out, a fumble,
Speaker 1: a punt, a drive that ended on downs, another drive
Speaker 1: at an times goes. At that point they're down by
Speaker 1: a hill of points and going forward on fourth down,
Speaker 1: and a pick to end the game. I mean, thirty
Speaker 1: eight unanswered points and an utter onslaught. I don't I
Speaker 1: can't remember a playoff game where it's not just because
Speaker 1: of the pick six, but one that after that pick six,
Speaker 1: the team, the Vikings went completely to sleep. I think
Speaker 1: the crowd a lot to do with it too. Whether
Speaker 1: front four, which we thought at certain times during the
Speaker 1: season might be the best front four in the league,
Speaker 1: disappeared for almost the whole game. They had so many
Speaker 1: coverage bust out of a discipline defense norly disciplined, and
Speaker 1: nick fools. I'm gonna eat a keeping helping of crow here,
Speaker 1: which is probably the best meal. I never doubted their
Speaker 1: coaching staff all year. Flip frank Wright Doug Peterson have
Speaker 1: been phenomenal. Jim Schwartz on the other side of the ball.
Speaker 1: I doubted Nick Fools. My philosophy on football analysis that
Speaker 1: you always trust your eyes. You have to. It's the
Speaker 1: only way to do football annalysis. My eyes told me
Speaker 1: he wasn't good. He hasn't been good for a few years.
Speaker 1: He was phenomenal in this game. It looked like an
Speaker 1: out of body experience. He looked like a different quarterback.
Speaker 1: And what impressed me most was continuing to attack downfield.
Speaker 1: Hours after we had seen Boardles kind of go in
Speaker 1: the tank and stop attacking. Fools just kept attacking aggressively
Speaker 1: downfield and looking downfield, playing with a confidence that we
Speaker 1: have not seen out of him. I think you can
Speaker 1: point to John d Filippo, and you can point to
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and the coaches because the one note and
Speaker 1: you hear this all the time and it's sort of like,
Speaker 1: what is it mean? But they said, oh, we we
Speaker 1: really coached up Nick Foles to be loose this week.
Speaker 1: We just wanted to say be loose, just have fun.
Speaker 1: And it's like a lot of times that can result
Speaker 1: in just a heap of mistakes from a guy like Foles. Right,
Speaker 1: because your eyes were not wrong on any level about
Speaker 1: what we had seen from Poles. The offense went to
Speaker 1: sleep under him. But then today the deep ball, which
Speaker 1: everyone you know that these stat packages, which is compile
Speaker 1: and compile, Nick Foles can't throw the deep ball. Next
Speaker 1: gen stats tells you can't throw the deep ball. Tape
Speaker 1: tells you can't. Then today's unfurling. I mean it started
Speaker 1: with Tori Smith dropping what would have been a fifty
Speaker 1: four yard catch, but then all Sean Jeffrey, Tori Smith
Speaker 1: gets a touchdown. I mean he's whipping it down Phil.
Speaker 1: He put the Vikings defense away. It didn't help that
Speaker 1: and send Dahill was lost again. But in general, guys
Speaker 1: that have been absolutely pro Bowl level defensively all season,
Speaker 1: none of it showed up for the Vikings. Here's the
Speaker 1: stat that will tell you everything you need to know
Speaker 1: about how precise falls was. Everybody's like, oh well, two
Speaker 1: thousand Nick Foles show up again. Well, this guy is
Speaker 1: better than that guy. Ever was on hasses traveling twenty
Speaker 1: plus yards downfield. This is a staff from PF. He
Speaker 1: was four of six, including that drop to Tory Smith,
Speaker 1: for one and seventy two yards and two touchdowns of
Speaker 1: passer rating of one nine he was slaughtering them and uh,
Speaker 1: let's let's call out specifically, this was the touchdown to
Speaker 1: put the game away. Uh. And some of these throws
Speaker 1: he was making downfield, there are a lot of coverage bust.
Speaker 1: The Vikings play terribly on defense, and it was kind
Speaker 1: of a shock. But some of these throws came with
Speaker 1: like a muddy pocket and he was just eyes down
Speaker 1: the field making the throw. Here's the one that really
Speaker 1: put the game away. Steps he is looking, he is
Speaker 1: going deep out of alone and I touched. That is
Speaker 1: Jeffri Jeffery five sick touchdown. That was with a one
Speaker 1: o nine to play in the second quarter, and it
Speaker 1: went from seven nothing. Uh in the early minutes of
Speaker 1: the game too boom seven points, fourteen points, seventeen points,
Speaker 1: twenty four unanswered points in the to close out the
Speaker 1: first half, and all of a sudden, it's seven West
Speaker 1: and let's talk about so falls out of his mind.
Speaker 1: I wish they gave Conference game m vps away because
Speaker 1: they do that in baseball, and it's a worthy award
Speaker 1: because it's such a huge game in fos career. But
Speaker 1: Foals would have had it. But the Vikings defense West
Speaker 1: like just like the Steelers defense went to hell last week,
Speaker 1: but that was not a great defense, especially with Ryan
Speaker 1: Shay's ear out. The Jack's defense up and down as
Speaker 1: the season war on. But the Vikings defense is the
Speaker 1: one thing we could count on. And what happened, I
Speaker 1: would say, let me, let me approach it this way.
Speaker 1: For three and a half months, when I looked at
Speaker 1: the Eagles team, the vision I had was Carson went
Speaker 1: spinning out of pressure to create magic. The vision I
Speaker 1: have from this one game is la Garrett Blunt absolutely
Speaker 1: steamrolling Andrew Sendejo on the way to a touchdown. They
Speaker 1: were the more physical team. They brought the fight to
Speaker 1: the Vikings. They showed up. And that's what the Eagles
Speaker 1: defense has in all year. That's what their offensive line
Speaker 1: has been all year. And I I thought that the
Speaker 1: Vikings were similarly built, similarly well coached, and today the
Speaker 1: Eagles had a different level to them and all of
Speaker 1: those areas defense, offensive line, coaching staff, it was. They
Speaker 1: looked like a juggernaut. No team, no defense in the
Speaker 1: NFL was better on third down than the Vikings. And
Speaker 1: then in this game, prior to garbage time, which is
Speaker 1: the entire fourth quarter, but before a garbage time. The
Speaker 1: Eagles are nine for eleven on third down, shredding the secondary.
Speaker 1: And I as as I've said in the last week
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, I have a close friend Greg,
Speaker 1: who was a huge Viking so and he suffered as
Speaker 1: I've suffered with the Jets, and even he was confident
Speaker 1: going into this game because everything if you studied their
Speaker 1: games every week, if you've watched how this season unfold,
Speaker 1: if you watched how Nick Foles looked in the past
Speaker 1: four weeks since becoming the starter in Philadelphia, it all
Speaker 1: trended towards this Minnesota defense smothering folds and it was
Speaker 1: just a different unit. Well, I mean that, to me
Speaker 1: is the most surprising outcome of this week. If you
Speaker 1: said thirty eight seven, I think most of us comfortably
Speaker 1: would have thought, if things things is gonna go totally south,
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna be a terrible game by Nick Foles,
Speaker 1: because we hadn't seen that from case Keenum. And then
Speaker 1: for this to be the game where you get case
Speaker 1: Keenum's only pick six of the season and you get
Speaker 1: his second lost fumble of the season, which those two
Speaker 1: turnovers changed this game entirely, and you go back to
Speaker 1: that Saints game. You're up seventeen nothing at the half
Speaker 1: and lost in the miracle finish. Was the way that
Speaker 1: New Orleans went up and down the field on the
Speaker 1: Vikings in the second half twenty four points, which you thought, okay,
Speaker 1: it's new. That's the Drew Brees led versatile offense. I
Speaker 1: get it to the playoffs are crazy, but they've given
Speaker 1: up sixty two points in six quarters now. It's almost
Speaker 1: like this team just went to sleep on defense six
Speaker 1: quarters ago when you still needed another four from them
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl. It makes you wonder what's
Speaker 1: in store for them next year because this might be
Speaker 1: their best chance. And and rap sheet was talking about
Speaker 1: Keenam possibly getting the franch ice tag. I cannot see
Speaker 1: the Vikings allocating twenty three million dollars for a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Even as well as Keenham played this year with his
Speaker 1: skill set that was bolstered by Pat Shermer's coaching. A
Speaker 1: good offensive line, great wide receiver, is a strong running game.
Speaker 1: All of that isn't necessarily going to be in place
Speaker 1: next year. You don't allocate that money to Keenum. I
Speaker 1: just wonder what's the staying power of this team. That's
Speaker 1: a tricky decision for the Vikings now, and we have
Speaker 1: plenty of time to talk about how they're gonna play it.
Speaker 1: But Keenum for three months was everything they could have
Speaker 1: asked for, and then he came down to earth. Now,
Speaker 1: how are you going to view him going forward? They
Speaker 1: have a big decision to make twenty three million on
Speaker 1: a one year deal to case Keenum. That feels like
Speaker 1: a hard pill to swallow. My sense is they like
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford a lot more than everyone else like Sam
Speaker 1: Bradford too. I also though, one of the biggest supporters
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL of Sam Bradford is Pat Schremer.
Speaker 1: Now Pat Shermer's gone. I wonder where if it follows
Speaker 1: him too, if he follows him or that's a good
Speaker 1: that's a good question, or if or just who this
Speaker 1: the remaining coaching alf well favor because they put a
Speaker 1: lot of effort into helping Teddy Bridgewater hell as well.
Speaker 1: And you've got all three of these guys heading towards
Speaker 1: free agencies, So a lot of questions. It was interesting
Speaker 1: to me, first of all, that crowd, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: they gave the Eagles the late kickoff and there were
Speaker 1: Eagles fans reading, you know, reading around the web today
Speaker 1: the Information super Highway, uh that were they were tailgating
Speaker 1: from six am on. By the time that games started,
Speaker 1: it was a absolute fever pitch pandemonium. And then by
Speaker 1: the by the end of the game. And you gotta
Speaker 1: feel bad for Vikings fans for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1: Number one, their team is not going to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: But now the team that will be representing the NFC
Speaker 1: is coming to their building and it will be filled
Speaker 1: and I mean teaming it will be. It will just
Speaker 1: be packed with Eagles fans because I don't know how
Speaker 1: many Patriots fans and maybe they'll surprise us are going
Speaker 1: to travel to Minneapolis when they're in the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: every year. And this was a Eagles team, Eagles fan base.
Speaker 1: By the end of the game, they were doing the
Speaker 1: skull clap and chanting folds folds, which is well done
Speaker 1: fair play. Uh so that I think home field advantage
Speaker 1: was such a big part of this for the Eagles,
Speaker 1: But that's almost like not giving them enough credit because
Speaker 1: they delivered a amazing performance in this game. I think
Speaker 1: they're fans, I mean they get a bad they get
Speaker 1: a bad rap and every fan base has that element.
Speaker 1: Well that's fine them especially, but it's really I think
Speaker 1: they own it, if anything, they own it. But it's
Speaker 1: like it has been thirteen years since they made a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and it's it is crazy. Although this narrative
Speaker 1: is gonna tire out real quick because let's not call
Speaker 1: it a super Bowl rematch. That was one of the
Speaker 1: duller super Bowls that I ever watched. It wasn't very close.
Speaker 1: There's really not much linking these two teams together, but
Speaker 1: it is a super Bowl rematch for all it's worth.
Speaker 1: It is weird though, to me that we came out
Speaker 1: of this weekend without Minnesota having the chance to play
Speaker 1: in their own stadium. I think that that was something
Speaker 1: psychologically that was in our minds as a possibility for
Speaker 1: for the last month and it's just been yanked away.
Speaker 1: What about them? After the Dick touched down last Sunday,
Speaker 1: they seemed like a team of destiny and that just
Speaker 1: again unless the Patriots are involved this stuff, and that's
Speaker 1: not even always true. This stuff is so hard to predict.
Speaker 1: The Vikings had everything in front of him. We were
Speaker 1: talking last week. You know, one of the Saints is
Speaker 1: big regrets of getting picked off on the last play
Speaker 1: of that game. Is they knew they had a chance
Speaker 1: to go to Philadelphia and go against Nick Foles. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, Nick Foles looks like a guy that could
Speaker 1: beat anybody. Well, here's the thing, because we totally trust
Speaker 1: what we're gonna get with Brady, and Belichick is going
Speaker 1: to be there a week after week what happened with
Speaker 1: Folds today? In this week to week NFL, Everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: remember this latest game and talk about how Grady is
Speaker 1: in the chemistry and all this. Hey, this is you know,
Speaker 1: does it mean anything against New England? I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I'm even willing to say it does. Good question. I
Speaker 1: worry about underselling the Eagles, who are one of the
Speaker 1: mentally toughest teams in the league. And I think when
Speaker 1: you consider increasing complexity of football with each generation, Belichick's
Speaker 1: Patriots are the best coach teams in the history of
Speaker 1: the sport, and the Eagles this year were the second
Speaker 1: best coach team in the sport all season long. They
Speaker 1: were so well coached, so much mental toughness. So I
Speaker 1: think that's that's something to look forward to in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, that you're getting the two most fundamentally sound teams,
Speaker 1: and one that lost its m v P quarterback, lost
Speaker 1: its Hall of Fame left tackle, lost its middle linebacker.
Speaker 1: And here they are to go on and take the page.
Speaker 1: And you know to that point, by the way, lose
Speaker 1: all those key players. Keep on trucking. To use a
Speaker 1: term from your guys generation, and this is this is
Speaker 1: for you, Mark, because I know that you, uh, you
Speaker 1: lost your lock today and you know that the own
Speaker 1: sixteen thing happened. Another rough season in the NFL. I've
Speaker 1: stopped asking for anything at this point, um, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you something. All these losses that the Eagles
Speaker 1: overcame their scheming in the playoffs to beat all these
Speaker 1: stud teams. And the man at the front of it
Speaker 1: all was Doug Peterson. And it's amazing how he was
Speaker 1: able to overcome this From Michael Lombardi, I beloved seventies,
Speaker 1: Sixers hired a guy by the name of Roy Ruben
Speaker 1: from Long Island University. Poor Roy. He finished four and
Speaker 1: forty seven before the Sixers candem four and forty seven.
Speaker 1: Years later, Fred Carter said, letting Reuben coach the Sixers
Speaker 1: like letting a teenager run a big corporation. Hey, Fred,
Speaker 1: Meet the Eagles head coach Doug Peterson. Now everyone knows
Speaker 1: Peterson isn't a head coach. He might be less qualified
Speaker 1: the coach a team than anyone I've seen in my
Speaker 1: thirty plus years in the NFL. When will the Eagles
Speaker 1: admit their mistake? Will they throw away seventeen stubbornly sticking
Speaker 1: to the Peterson principal, the immortal Roy Reuben Last at
Speaker 1: fifty one games. I've been Doug Peterson last, way less
Speaker 1: than that. Michael Lombardi of The Ringer and former Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns general manager. Well, I don't know what your favorite.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what led him to tow
Speaker 1: with such already say that about a head coach? Who
Speaker 1: where did that surety come from? It felt like evaluating
Speaker 1: going on there? But Peterson roundabout way of saying, Um,
Speaker 1: Peterson has been at the forefront of all this. What
Speaker 1: he's been able to get this team uh out of
Speaker 1: adversity and to survive the loss of their m v P.
Speaker 1: It's been pretty wild. Um, So congratulations the Eagles to
Speaker 1: lombardies credit here you have what's what are you thinking?
Speaker 1: What's going on? I will say one thing. You know,
Speaker 1: you took the Jet. The Eagles fan base love you guys. Great,
Speaker 1: you took the Jets trademarked something or other at one point,
Speaker 1: what was it they took Gang, Well, they tried to
Speaker 1: take gangring but not allowed. It's been disallowed. And someone
Speaker 1: told me ten years ago that listen, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: really rough decade. But ten years from now, this plucky
Speaker 1: little underdog team, underdogs in their home stadium are gonna
Speaker 1: be all wearing dog masks and barking like crazy on
Speaker 1: their way to the Super Bowl. I would have thought, well, hell,
Speaker 1: there's a reason to stick around and watch the Browns,
Speaker 1: but there wasn't. Yeah, that be careful. They're Eagles fans
Speaker 1: with the dogmasks stuff. We get it. It's a bit
Speaker 1: and your your popular offensive lineman made it a thing,
Speaker 1: but let's not get too carried away and try to
Speaker 1: make it a thing long term. You could use it
Speaker 1: for this playoff run, just like you know, Gang Green
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with you, and I think Bird
Speaker 1: Gang a while back they took from the Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 1: You know, you got enough going on, and Greg Rosenthal
Speaker 1: were about to get on the line. He had a
Speaker 1: great tweet that really uh that really uh sums up
Speaker 1: what's going on with the Eagles fans right now? Who
Speaker 1: really are I mean Eagles fans and Patriots fans are
Speaker 1: going to be swarming into Minneapolis. Just think about that.
Speaker 1: Here's a tweet from Greg the Vikings beat writers in
Speaker 1: front of me on deadline while Eagles fans knock on
Speaker 1: the press box window taunting them. That is hell. And
Speaker 1: now let's get Greg on the line, Greg Rosenthal. Greg,
Speaker 1: were those Vikings beat writers able to file their copy?
Speaker 1: They were fashional. They barely looked up at the insanely drunk,
Speaker 1: middle aged Eagles women bomb just waving dog mass delight
Speaker 1: to us. Uh yeah, the we You know, it's been
Speaker 1: all over social media throughout the day, like the Eagles
Speaker 1: fans getting given the late kickoff, just got got into it,
Speaker 1: got at it, went for it. What was the scene
Speaker 1: like in Philly for this game? Yeah? The fact, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you mentioned they were greasing the poles.
Speaker 1: I watched back past a couple of those poles that
Speaker 1: the police had made. I mean, it's it's just asking
Speaker 1: for it to have a six forty p m. I mean,
Speaker 1: come back, to us NFL. I know it's good for
Speaker 1: the ratings, I guess, but it's just it is an
Speaker 1: interminable uh day to wait that long for football, even
Speaker 1: to wait the three ten games a little too much
Speaker 1: in this town. I mean, like every single person was
Speaker 1: wearing a Brian Dawkins jersey. I think in the entire
Speaker 1: city the rule it's a great choice. Um. Your thoughts
Speaker 1: on the game in general, and we've we've been talking
Speaker 1: about just how stunning it was from that first drive,
Speaker 1: uh from the Vikings and then it had it took
Speaker 1: such a turn. What to you was, how did this happen?
Speaker 1: How did the game turn? Was it the pick six
Speaker 1: just change the entire um nature of the game in
Speaker 1: your opinion? I mean, it's like cliche, but I was
Speaker 1: surprised as how more physical the Eagles were on both sides.
Speaker 1: I think the Vikings were too. Terence Newman, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I just came back from the Viking blocker room and
Speaker 1: he said he couldn't believe that that the Eagles just
Speaker 1: had more energy than then, that it almost felt like
Speaker 1: they wanted it more than them. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's that with hindsight or what, but that the
Speaker 1: Eagles on both lines, and they've been good all year,
Speaker 1: just kind of just eight the Vikings lunch and I
Speaker 1: thought that was the key. I think if you put
Speaker 1: k Keena behind that Eagles offensive line, they would be
Speaker 1: just fine too. But it's like those two groups up
Speaker 1: front for the Eagles think just kind of didn't didn't
Speaker 1: let the teamers. I mean, you watched Nick Foles live
Speaker 1: last week, you watched him again this week. For us,
Speaker 1: we felt like, well, what happened? What sort of science
Speaker 1: project did they do with Nick Foles to turn him
Speaker 1: into this super warrior this time around? The deep ball
Speaker 1: was there after all these metrics studies telling us that
Speaker 1: he can't throw deep I mean being there live, what
Speaker 1: did you see different in different from falls? Well, it's true.
Speaker 1: I mean it's everyone's just like, he can't do this,
Speaker 1: he can't do that. Then suddenly destroying this defense that
Speaker 1: we've crowed about all season. I think it comes back
Speaker 1: to Peterson. I mean Jason Kelsey was talking about after
Speaker 1: the game, like their their knack for dialing up the
Speaker 1: right play at the right time. I mean, these receivers
Speaker 1: were open. So that is partly on Minnesota. And then
Speaker 1: once Foles got it going, like the one throw on
Speaker 1: the run that he had over the shoulder when they
Speaker 1: were up I think seven at that point. I mean
Speaker 1: that's when you knew Nick Foles was just kind of
Speaker 1: on another level. And I mean I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean he's capable of this that Pat Shermer said after
Speaker 1: the game. Look, I was whip him when he was
Speaker 1: twenty seven touchdowns in two interceptions. We know Nick Foles
Speaker 1: can do this for for sixty minutes. Maybe not for
Speaker 1: sixteen games, but he can do it for a game.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Peterson, you mentioned I got some breaking news, guys.
Speaker 1: This tweet from Michae Lombardi Doug Peterson won me over,
Speaker 1: making one's great. I was not sure it was him
Speaker 1: getting Folds to play this. Well is him hat off? Respect? Well?
Speaker 1: There you go. What else can you ask for? Listen,
Speaker 1: it's a little more. You don't even need to play
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. I mean that's the That's it. Uh
Speaker 1: and uh any other thoughts on on on the game
Speaker 1: you were at Greg, We're gonna have two weeks to
Speaker 1: talk about the Eagles, but anything that you know you
Speaker 1: really want to get off your chest? Um? No, all right, Well,
Speaker 1: I got well, let's talk about the other side. Then,
Speaker 1: Greg the thrown vis back to another Super Bowl? Do
Speaker 1: you have anything this year? Were you watching this game?
Speaker 1: I think you were obviously preparing for your job, but
Speaker 1: did you have a place to to watch the latest
Speaker 1: great fairy tale from your boy Brady? I was, of
Speaker 1: course watching, although I did. I did have a quick
Speaker 1: trip down to the field, but then it seemed pointless
Speaker 1: trying to watch the Patriots game on the JumboTron, thinking like,
Speaker 1: what what am I doing here? Just go back up
Speaker 1: and lets the games start. Taking some notes. Uh, It's
Speaker 1: weird though, you know, you're surrounded by all these people there.
Speaker 1: There's no sound. You've got like Connor or in a
Speaker 1: very good looking blazer, you know, talking trash to you.
Speaker 1: So it's not a normal place to watch a game.
Speaker 1: I saw a tweet from Connor that said something like,
Speaker 1: I wish you were here, Dan Hansis to see Greg
Speaker 1: Rosenthal trying to talk himself into the Patriots actually being
Speaker 1: in trouble in this one sounds right, that's that's paraphrasing.
Speaker 1: Um No, I would say the level of how tense
Speaker 1: I was watching it, like, you know, it's frustrating myself
Speaker 1: just as a person like I don't you know, like
Speaker 1: going through these sort of emotions. Right, well, that checks out.
Speaker 1: Good news, buddy. We're all gonna be in Minneapolis next
Speaker 1: week and another week preparing for a final Patriots game
Speaker 1: to close the NFL season. And by the way, you
Speaker 1: you'd be shocked to know and Weston Market both contact
Speaker 1: you privately just what a class act I've been all
Speaker 1: through the show towards the Patron. It's been very impressive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was definitely you know, bitter
Speaker 1: sweet not being able to be with you guys during
Speaker 1: the first three and a half quarters of that game,
Speaker 1: because I'm sure it would have been you know, it's
Speaker 1: delightful experience. I mean, the whole newsroom, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, it was many disappointed people by the end
Speaker 1: of the game. Anyway, Greg, you gotta file some copy,
Speaker 1: Like I said, NFL dot com slash Rosenthal to check
Speaker 1: out his piece. It's gonna be Viking centered correct or incorrect. No,
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna be a little bit of a
Speaker 1: look ahead and sex ball and and some flavor from tonight.
Speaker 1: I mean, Greg, do you at this point you're in
Speaker 1: a lathered up, you know, somewhat probably happily angry metropolis
Speaker 1: that are just beside themselves with draft the anger. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're probably like getting out, you know, decades of anger.
Speaker 1: And do you just go on the NFL expense account
Speaker 1: and hired like an armored limo to take you back
Speaker 1: to your room so that you aren't taken down in
Speaker 1: the what probably feels like the third act of Mother
Speaker 1: right now in Philadelphia. The by the way, the armor
Speaker 1: the armored limo is for NFL Network people, the dot
Speaker 1: com is it just it's a cab. Mike Silver is
Speaker 1: getting that, No, Mark, I want to get in the mix.
Speaker 1: When I get away from you guys, I'm like a
Speaker 1: totally different Okay, it's just out until four am. Um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go crazy on the fine Colleen. At least
Speaker 1: it's like it's Orleans. Yeah, it's like the Greg of
Speaker 1: Delaware days, this old acid rock band. All right, Greg, congratulations,
Speaker 1: but you've done it again. All right for you guys Tuesday.
Speaker 1: I feel like my five years NFL Network have been
Speaker 1: one long march toward Greg's team being in the super
Speaker 1: Bowl every single year. Thank you. More or less, that's
Speaker 1: been I mean this is their third Super Bowl, Uh
Speaker 1: in four years. There was another one that Mark and
Speaker 1: I we've been this is going. We've been very blessed
Speaker 1: Mark hashtag blessed that we This will be I think
Speaker 1: the seventh Super Bowl we've covered in person, and four
Speaker 1: of them in the seven years will be the same team.
Speaker 1: It's quite an achievement. Yeah, and it's uh, I mean
Speaker 1: up until I think I've behind the scenes lobbying hard
Speaker 1: not to cover the Patriots this time, which I've covered
Speaker 1: three times in a row. Uh, running out of storylines
Speaker 1: a lot much. Can they teach you? Well, they know
Speaker 1: they could teach me alone. I mean they like they
Speaker 1: don't say anything anyway. Yeah, the zero access. You know,
Speaker 1: we were steel trap. Yeah. Last year at least people
Speaker 1: could like talk themselves into oh, Marty Bennett media Night.
Speaker 1: This year. This year it's like James Harrison. Yeah, good
Speaker 1: luck with that. Go ask your questions to James Harrison.
Speaker 1: See how that goes. UM a couple of things before
Speaker 1: we go. A couple of things. First things off, we
Speaker 1: never talked about the desert. You're not a lot of
Speaker 1: talk about the desert around here, but the desert people
Speaker 1: Um already have the Eagles as uh, the biggest underdog
Speaker 1: in almost a decade in the Big Game. That seems foolish. Well,
Speaker 1: they must not be in on the Nick Foles experience
Speaker 1: just yet, but give them two weeks. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of time for things to change. Also, I will shout
Speaker 1: out to Howie Roseman, because never forget Howie Roseman, a
Speaker 1: man who crawled through a river of and came out
Speaker 1: clean on the other side, now a NFC champion GM.
Speaker 1: After he was sent deep into the Pocono's to live
Speaker 1: in a cottage that was his work office, Chip sent
Speaker 1: him out of the building and said, you are history,
Speaker 1: and he came all the way back baby Executive of
Speaker 1: the Year and um. One last note connected to the Eagles.
Speaker 1: Let's check in with Colleen wool After the Eagles defeated
Speaker 1: the Vikings in convincing fashion, Connie to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Don't believe dance She Yeah, she definitely has boots that
Speaker 1: will they'll counter out counteract the Chris go on the
Speaker 1: polls uh in Philadelphia, she'll be on Broad Street partying
Speaker 1: the night away. And good for her. I mean everyone
Speaker 1: in this unless you're Greg you never get to be
Speaker 1: happy for your team, so at least she, as an
Speaker 1: honorary hero, gets to celebrate and enjoy just once. Mark,
Speaker 1: imagine not even winning the Super Bowl. I've often thought
Speaker 1: about this, like it would be great. It would be
Speaker 1: like life changing on some level if the Jets every
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. But even if they just got
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl in my lifetime, how fun that
Speaker 1: two weeks is, and especially the you know weekend leading
Speaker 1: it up to it. Just imagine how fun it must
Speaker 1: be to be a fan of that can experience that.
Speaker 1: And along those lines, I find Colleen's journey easy to
Speaker 1: root for because she's not she If Eagles fans you
Speaker 1: want to paint some of them is annoying, she is
Speaker 1: the opposite. She's ultra nervous. She's freaking out all season long.
Speaker 1: She almost needed Carson Wentz to be taken out of
Speaker 1: the picture for the perfect season, not to be at
Speaker 1: her feet. She seemed to kind of dig in when
Speaker 1: Foals took over, and now she's gotten the most improbable storyline.
Speaker 1: So that kind of Eagles fan, I'm all about it.
Speaker 1: Reset the season when Wentz got hurt because it was
Speaker 1: they were the obvious favorite in the NFC, and then
Speaker 1: reset expectations, and people like Connie were able to then say, well,
Speaker 1: but we kind of got screwed here. It's been a
Speaker 1: great ride. Whatever happens is gonna be gravy at this point.
Speaker 1: And then you got to tick through the two rounds
Speaker 1: of the NFC playoffs after your by and just experience
Speaker 1: pure glory both weeks and a great environment Philly. So
Speaker 1: the Eagles fans, I'm sure you're gonna be completely insane people.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing. I looked it up. The capacity in that
Speaker 1: stadium in Minnesota's sixties six and change. Um, I would
Speaker 1: not be surprised if you have forty insane Philadelphia people
Speaker 1: at that game. I wonder if there's a group of
Speaker 1: New England fans that say, if we've skipped the last one,
Speaker 1: we've got to try to get there because this may
Speaker 1: be the last. I'd say it over and over, but
Speaker 1: someone feels a little bit different. But nobody thinks that
Speaker 1: right now, not not Patriots fans and certainly not Patriots haters.
Speaker 1: It feels like this is just gonna go on forever
Speaker 1: and ever and ever. At this post, I'm glad we
Speaker 1: didn't call tamposy tonight. That would have been next level insanity.
Speaker 1: He did flirt with the idea of giving her a
Speaker 1: call if the Patriots lost, probably only in loss. Do
Speaker 1: we would we call her? Do not want to hear
Speaker 1: from her? We've known Colleen for about three or four
Speaker 1: years now, and I would not want to dismiss her
Speaker 1: attitude towards the Eagles as cynicism. But it's certainly been
Speaker 1: a trepidation about having your heartbroken or giving yourself over
Speaker 1: to the possibility of putting your heart into that team,
Speaker 1: and it's been fun to see her be rewarded with
Speaker 1: this trip to the super Bowl. Alright, So that that's
Speaker 1: it for the flagship program, often imitated, never duplicated. We'll
Speaker 1: be back on Tuesday with our Tuesday video show, our
Speaker 1: last one of the year or the season at least,
Speaker 1: but I think it's the last one for a while.
Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll figure it out. Uh and then
Speaker 1: UH no show next Sunday because we will be traveling
Speaker 1: that day to Minnesota, and we have a big week
Speaker 1: lined up in Minnesota, the most we've ever done connected
Speaker 1: to the podcast. So we're very excited to share all
Speaker 1: that news with you when the time comes. But for now,
Speaker 1: it's time to say goodbye. Stand handsas signing off for
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, The Mailman, Greg Rose Itthal, the Old Boss
Speaker 1: from Philadelphia, and Lindsay fault On Behind the Glass tell Tuesday,