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Speaker 1: Head and Shoulders. My name is Dan Hansus and I
Speaker 1: am joined my room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Connie Fox,
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What's up people, Hey, hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: hey hey, little extra that I hope we don't have
Speaker 1: to pay royalties to puff Daddy for what great all
Speaker 1: time rhymes that was. I need those prayers that money
Speaker 1: was talking about. If you if you've noticed right away,
Speaker 1: Connie Chipper, because you still got the afterglow of being
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia when they clinched the conference and in a
Speaker 1: spot in the big game. That's what Philadelphia does for you.
Speaker 1: It gives you a glow on your face. It also
Speaker 1: gives people bruises and cuts and many other terrible things.
Speaker 1: But you know, actually transmitted diseases. Act like you've been
Speaker 1: there before, but we've never been there before. Or so.
Speaker 1: The moment, the moment I knew like it was all
Speaker 1: better off with Connie was when I got I checked
Speaker 1: my mentions and I got this tweet and we have
Speaker 1: our video show this week So if you want to
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Speaker 1: video at six pm Pacific. Here is Connie Fox. Her
Speaker 1: tweets me a lot of exclamation points, a lot just
Speaker 1: my name and thirty thirty four exclamation point. What is that?
Speaker 1: Was that? That's post game right, That's well, it's the
Speaker 1: game is winding down at that point, and that's when
Speaker 1: I knew that I could stop worrying about things. And
Speaker 1: also that was like by the time I was on
Speaker 1: maybe my second or third drink of the game. And
Speaker 1: that was also one of the things. The next day
Speaker 1: when I woke up, I was like, why did I
Speaker 1: do that again? What was the reasoning there? And what
Speaker 1: and where? What did you do for the rest of Sunday?
Speaker 1: Just take us through that. Well. I saw Greg in
Speaker 1: the press box for a little bit, was a fish
Speaker 1: out of water only there for like a quarter. I
Speaker 1: was like, why are you even sitting here? This is
Speaker 1: the wrong place, because you know, it's just very anti
Speaker 1: sep she's a woman, Greg now, because it's quiet and
Speaker 1: people are just typing, and I knew she would want
Speaker 1: to be like enjoying the game and it's not a
Speaker 1: place to sit and enjoy. I wasn't very quiet when
Speaker 1: I came in there either. I just kind of sat
Speaker 1: there and started talking with James Palmer and annoying everybody.
Speaker 1: It's funny because I grew up my whole life after
Speaker 1: I realized I wasn't gonna be on the Yankees. I
Speaker 1: wanted to be a sportswriter. And then once I actually
Speaker 1: got into the business and saw what press boxes were like,
Speaker 1: I was like, I never want to work in these
Speaker 1: things ever. But the press box in Philadelphia has an
Speaker 1: amazing buffet, Like, they have really good food there, So
Speaker 1: I was really excited about that, and I spent some
Speaker 1: time in the parking lot before the game. We did
Speaker 1: some stuff for the Network with Steve Smith, and then
Speaker 1: we played washers. Uh put some fans um. Washers is
Speaker 1: the thing with the string with the two balls on
Speaker 1: the end and you throw it onto the No, they're
Speaker 1: like what they're like? Washers like like tools. I don't
Speaker 1: know what would you call them into it? It's almost
Speaker 1: like corn you Yeah, it goes underneath the screw. It's
Speaker 1: like a disk. Yeah, it's like a small metals I
Speaker 1: mean basic knowledge of of human you know, construction would
Speaker 1: give you a knowledge. So it's just like corn you
Speaker 1: have there there's a box on each side, and then
Speaker 1: you toss the washer into the box, and then there's
Speaker 1: a cup inside the box, so you can get the
Speaker 1: washer inside the cup or the box, and then you
Speaker 1: get points depending on that. And if you missed the box,
Speaker 1: well then you don't get it. And you're thinking of
Speaker 1: the game that I attempted to buy for a backyard
Speaker 1: party with the new balls on a string where you
Speaker 1: wicket over try to catch it on a fence, and
Speaker 1: it caught on a phone line and was there for
Speaker 1: about a month. Yeah. Yeah, So I saw Greg in
Speaker 1: the press box and then I went and met up
Speaker 1: with some friends in one of the suits and that's
Speaker 1: where that's where I sent the picture from uh some
Speaker 1: old friends that have a suite. Yeah, and then we
Speaker 1: went to a little bar by this stadium afterwards, and
Speaker 1: randomly there were some players that ended up there too
Speaker 1: that well it's their bar choice, isn't that right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they go they go to this little like kind of
Speaker 1: die it's not really a dive bar, but this little
Speaker 1: bar by the stadium. After every game in this game,
Speaker 1: I guess was drop who are there? Was the well
Speaker 1: the entire Selk family was there. Um. Yeah, and of
Speaker 1: course I'm like, Garrett Selleck, tell me everything about Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan and Jimmy g I've played it really cool, guys. Uh,
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox was there and Brandon Graham, little Donnie Jones
Speaker 1: for you. Um, what is Fletcher Cox's drink of choice?
Speaker 1: What is he? I don't know, I'm not sure. I
Speaker 1: just what was your drink of choice? And how many everything?
Speaker 1: I think there was no you know all of the things.
Speaker 1: I don't know the date with the podcast, but you're
Speaker 1: drinking habits have become studied of late on. This is
Speaker 1: that right? Okay? What have you found in your stead?
Speaker 1: I would say, guests at and maybe in an accusatory way,
Speaker 1: perhaps just cycle back and listen to some episodes what
Speaker 1: you come across. Okay, that's great. Um, so Colleen is
Speaker 1: going to the Big Game. And by the way, I'm
Speaker 1: saying big game because we have what I'm bad at math, Greig,
Speaker 1: you know this. How far away are we from the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? We're, as we tap here, twelve days, twelve
Speaker 1: days away, less than a fortnight. So let's we got
Speaker 1: plenty of time to talk about the Super Bowl. From
Speaker 1: so going going forward, that I was setting the table.
Speaker 1: That's okay, going forward, no references to directly. Do not
Speaker 1: bring up the s B words in this show. In
Speaker 1: this show because we have plenty to talk to. And
Speaker 1: by the way, there is a penalty. It will be tracked.
Speaker 1: If you want to count that against me, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I would say no, you were setting to you guys,
Speaker 1: I would say no. That would be whoever utters the
Speaker 1: two words the most gets sent to the NFL Media
Speaker 1: Agony Center. What's that You're going to say, the NFL
Speaker 1: Media Summit next year? That's that's punishment to the same thing.
Speaker 1: Um no, Well, we found if you watched NFL Pick
Speaker 1: Them this best week, we found an interrogation room, which
Speaker 1: was I guess it was. Actually it's on an interrogation room.
Speaker 1: It's a study room where you look through one one
Speaker 1: sided glass of people playing video games and things like that.
Speaker 1: That exists on campus for sure where really yeah, well
Speaker 1: you know link it's wild. Once that room exists right upstairs,
Speaker 1: it's like right and opened. It's hid is not watching
Speaker 1: Pick Them studiously, it's really falling behind in our a
Speaker 1: t N programming. Um so if that room can exist
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't the NFL media agony Center. Alright, so that's
Speaker 1: a different room. Um, alright, so the most, the most,
Speaker 1: the the individual, it says, sp the most. That's that's
Speaker 1: a whipping. That's where they've been keeping Brandon the last months.
Speaker 1: Like where is that guy? I haven't seen it. It
Speaker 1: sounds it sounds a little bit like when they when
Speaker 1: they hold up the baby Simba Na. That's what it
Speaker 1: sounds like in the beginning of that. All right, here
Speaker 1: we go, coming up on today's I'm doing great, everything's fine.
Speaker 1: Coming up on today's show. A lot of news to
Speaker 1: get through. Not a ton of news, actually, but some
Speaker 1: items as we spend towards thus big game, good catch,
Speaker 1: good gas uh, including uh Tom Brady updates, ground updates.
Speaker 1: Who gets to whip you? Dan? If you were the
Speaker 1: ones to catch well, I would think their employees in
Speaker 1: the j I'm way too confident that this is easy
Speaker 1: to not say. I feel like this is an easy assignment.
Speaker 1: But maybe I'll be proven wrong. Obviously we'll get to
Speaker 1: it anyway. Coaching reset, we are gonna spend through the
Speaker 1: league because we've been caught up with the playoffs, and
Speaker 1: we're gonna go through the division's head coach reset across
Speaker 1: the league and our thoughts on some of these hires,
Speaker 1: all these hires in fact, and UM Finally, last but
Speaker 1: not least, we've been doing a video show on Tuesday
Speaker 1: all season and everybody behind the glass has done such
Speaker 1: great work. Total pros. Back there. Uh the man uh
Speaker 1: that sits sits next to Lindsey Fulton for each show
Speaker 1: on Tuesday's Christian Anderson. And Christian has over the course
Speaker 1: as we've gotten to know him this year, is really
Speaker 1: explained his history, which is interesting. He's an l A native,
Speaker 1: but like hardcore like, he's a guy that grew up
Speaker 1: in this area, knows famous people, grew up with famous people,
Speaker 1: grew up with famous people's kids, played ball at u C.
Speaker 1: L A's dad was a longtime assistant coach at USC,
Speaker 1: So Christians got stories about living in l A. So
Speaker 1: we figured this our last Tuesday show of the season,
Speaker 1: why not UM offer up the first edition of Christian
Speaker 1: Anderson Presents True Life Tales from Hollywood High I like
Speaker 1: this the first edition coming on the last episode the
Speaker 1: Christian Yeah, we yeah, that that is by design because
Speaker 1: we don't know how that's gonna work. Out gives us
Speaker 1: some options, maybe a spinoff pod for you if this
Speaker 1: goes well, why not? All right, but before we get
Speaker 1: to that, yes, let's let's start with some news. That's
Speaker 1: what she said. That's what she said. Whoa that? Of course?
Speaker 1: Who else could it be? It's Scott's Zolak, the color
Speaker 1: man for the Patriots radio network. We gotta get that
Speaker 1: was like playing the drums for some reason. We gotta
Speaker 1: get so on the podcast at this point. He was
Speaker 1: on up to the minute right before us a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago. But he was tame like and he gave
Speaker 1: actually like real analysis the women. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: remember this is what you're gonna get. I thought Sol
Speaker 1: did a nice job on our network. I think we
Speaker 1: all did. We were He was quite But that's the
Speaker 1: guy playing drums and shouting. That's what she said. So
Speaker 1: because apparent like what I don't even get like that,
Speaker 1: that's what she said. Even it doesn't have to. I
Speaker 1: felt like we needed more context for I mean, it's
Speaker 1: happening there. I feel like everything we've heard from him,
Speaker 1: you could argue, be out of context. There is no
Speaker 1: I feel like he's related to Gronkowski. Is he definitely
Speaker 1: genetically genetically for sure. All right, let's do some news.
Speaker 1: Might as well start with the Patriots, who are playing
Speaker 1: in the big game in less than two weeks, twelve days.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Greg uh and Tom Brady. This is actually
Speaker 1: good news, um, because one of the things we've been through,
Speaker 1: this this car wash for so long now, year after year,
Speaker 1: you don't want some kind of annoying injury story hanging around.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be an issue with Brady
Speaker 1: because he's getting stitches removed in that uh throwing hand
Speaker 1: this week, and obviously it became a huge story in
Speaker 1: the back half of last week leading up to the
Speaker 1: a f C title game. However, um, and he played
Speaker 1: incredibly well. Obviously, UM, he will get the stitches removed
Speaker 1: this week, and you one could imagine he'll be all clear.
Speaker 1: They're less clear is the status of Rob Gronkowski. This
Speaker 1: might actually become the injury story that's annoying, because you
Speaker 1: would think grunt Greg is gonna be cleared um by
Speaker 1: two weeks. We don't know how serious this concussion was,
Speaker 1: but you imagine the Patriots, just from a gamesmanship angle,
Speaker 1: are gonna play this up and make it seem like
Speaker 1: he might not be part of the game plan, so
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if he is. I don't know.
Speaker 1: When it comes to the concussion protocol though, teams don't
Speaker 1: really have a chance to mess around with it. And
Speaker 1: and also with concussions, sometimes you're back in six days
Speaker 1: like Andrewson Day who was for the Vikings, and sometimes
Speaker 1: you're out for three or four weeks. I saw a
Speaker 1: lot of comments, including by you Dan immediately kind of
Speaker 1: joking right after the concussion would be like it'd be
Speaker 1: the biggest upset ever. We know, like they're not gonna
Speaker 1: actually do the protocol for Gronk. You know this time
Speaker 1: he'll be right back on the field. But it's their concussions,
Speaker 1: Like there's no way to know how that's going out,
Speaker 1: and he was out for the game. It wasn't totally
Speaker 1: jokey because the concussion protocol day. Even as the season
Speaker 1: went along, they're trying to like close up the loopholes.
Speaker 1: But we see instances once they're in it though they're
Speaker 1: kind of in it, is what I mean. There was
Speaker 1: an instance earlier in this playoffs. I'm trying to remember
Speaker 1: it was a key player, uh that that it seemed
Speaker 1: like it was a possibility that it was skirted a
Speaker 1: little bit and I Cam didn't go to the locker room.
Speaker 1: They only tested him quickly in the tent, and they
Speaker 1: had reasons that that's what I expec the Patriot situation.
Speaker 1: But he didn't have a concussion, and Gron will probably
Speaker 1: wind up We'll get like a band of independent neurologists
Speaker 1: buried under the mass Turnpike if he if he's not
Speaker 1: clear and try, I mean, I feel like I hear you,
Speaker 1: but I feel like if if ever there you were
Speaker 1: going to push a guy back out of the field,
Speaker 1: it certainly would be a situation where you're playing the
Speaker 1: best defense in the league and you're trailing, and who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe he suffered a really bad concussion. We've seen players
Speaker 1: knocked that for a couple of weeks. It might go
Speaker 1: it might be something that is annoying and goes up
Speaker 1: until close. Either way, the Eagles are going to prepare
Speaker 1: for him. I mean, it's not like and then if
Speaker 1: he's not in there, then that just helps them. But like,
Speaker 1: and if he somehow didn't play, I wouldn't count out
Speaker 1: the Patriots either. More time touched him, Dave Wayne Allen.
Speaker 1: They beat they beat the Falcons last year without him.
Speaker 1: They we've seen players, though more often than not, returned
Speaker 1: from concussion. If they don't have a long history, which
Speaker 1: Gronk doesn't with in two weeks or so, I would
Speaker 1: be you would expect them to play. Uh. And other
Speaker 1: Patriots news they are playing in the Big Game fifty two,
Speaker 1: uh coming up in twelve days. They have opted as
Speaker 1: the home team. They have opted to wear their white jerseys,
Speaker 1: their road jerseys and a little history mark sizzler um.
Speaker 1: And this came from a tweet from the Pats. Uh
Speaker 1: Pats elect to wear white for the Big Game? Can
Speaker 1: I say if it's in there to the team is
Speaker 1: three and oh in white in blank bowls under Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: which is now they're they're getting cute because they got white.
Speaker 1: They didn't get white. They got beat by the Packers
Speaker 1: with Bellichick and Bledsoe and they wora game. But under
Speaker 1: Belichick they've never lost. I mean, the Patriots to me
Speaker 1: feel like a team that would say, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: we're above superstition. UH. Where you know that's for low
Speaker 1: thinking UH, franchises that don't get to this game. We
Speaker 1: we we operate in a completely different mindset. But you know,
Speaker 1: there there is there is something to the fact that
Speaker 1: you're clinging to the same jersey that you've used successfully.
Speaker 1: But it's not a great uniform overall. And they their
Speaker 1: whites are better, you know, and that they got the
Speaker 1: mojo with it, they got the Malcolm Butler interception with
Speaker 1: the white Could they ever have a question, would you
Speaker 1: be allowed to go throwback? And where like the red
Speaker 1: Jersey would like pat the Patriots would allowed to No,
Speaker 1: I don't think you would, but I think it would
Speaker 1: not support and all throwback kind of match. It would
Speaker 1: be fantastic. So corporate people, corporate big officials, I think
Speaker 1: everyone seems to be an agreement that the Patriots current
Speaker 1: uniform since they rebooted in the nineties, is not a
Speaker 1: good uniform. It's basically the logo that's really bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: except everyone loved it. It's just that every twenty years
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, people, Jets uniform. People did not like
Speaker 1: the the flying elv at the time, even at the
Speaker 1: time it got they called it that's what that's what
Speaker 1: we called it in New England. It's kind of a joke,
Speaker 1: you know. The fight you know the Elvis is that
Speaker 1: it was a strange logo even haighting out with the
Speaker 1: Brown's uniform prices. People were with the Patriots. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: plural of Elvis. You know, so in the Eagles will
Speaker 1: wear their home I mean it's not an official thing
Speaker 1: which they are defeated in. How do you like their uniforms?
Speaker 1: I mean I love to have the Kelly Green ones.
Speaker 1: I think their throwback ones are awesome. I'm not really
Speaker 1: really into the new ones Midnight Green. None of this
Speaker 1: matters really, Uh, it's fun to talk about. Glad you
Speaker 1: brought it up. More important news. This is way more important.
Speaker 1: And Mark I thought of you immediately because last year
Speaker 1: famously you predicted that there would be no final score
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, that something was going to happen
Speaker 1: and super Bowl Hello, oh you you said it twice.
Speaker 1: You said it twice. I don't know. Yeah, kind of
Speaker 1: missed the first one though, So you're right, Well, that
Speaker 1: was their diligence. It's not on their diligence. Were the
Speaker 1: listeners can count? Yeah, that's too. So that's two for you.
Speaker 1: Now you're in trouble. Interesting also, by the way, the
Speaker 1: guy reading the news, that's a tough spot. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no. You set up the game. So all
Speaker 1: I'm saying you guys should catch it. You don't catch
Speaker 1: right now. We're so focused on what you're saying that right,
Speaker 1: if you had, if you hadn't even brought up anyway.
Speaker 1: Last year you predicted Mark that there would be no
Speaker 1: end of that game there was. You missed it by
Speaker 1: one year as it being an actual possibility because an
Speaker 1: asteroid and the I guess they number these, owe them
Speaker 1: out Asteroid two thousand two, which is the first year
Speaker 1: of the Patriots one the big game. Interesting, uh A
Speaker 1: J one to nine is set to pass by Earth
Speaker 1: on February four, which is blank blank Sunday. On top
Speaker 1: of this, I have a sandwich on the fact that
Speaker 1: a week of football would be canceled this season. And yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, you're right, you're we're two weeks left here
Speaker 1: technically you know there is though with the Hurricanes. No,
Speaker 1: I mean a full week, so you need you need
Speaker 1: either the Pro Bowl or the game after that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is now not even sure I could count the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, but I okay, don't. As the season is
Speaker 1: now winding down, Mark's prop bets are starting to tumble down.
Speaker 1: They are, and I was widely laughed at that. But
Speaker 1: who will be laughing if an asteroid, which they said,
Speaker 1: will be laughing. They're saying that if this managed to
Speaker 1: hit Earth in quotes, would create a mini ice age
Speaker 1: that would result in darkness for about a decade, total darkness.
Speaker 1: Well that's fitting that the Eagles are finally in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, man, and this is happening. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: my vacation time. I feel like, well I did do
Speaker 1: I've got nine points according to our system. I did
Speaker 1: do a little research and uh, oh my god. You
Speaker 1: know hoot disasters. Well that's Greg and Gregg and are
Speaker 1: going to be whipping the two of you in that
Speaker 1: little room, you little Meanwhile, Mark actually has a paper
Speaker 1: here with notes that saying on the top, Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I looked up the Twitter account asteroid Watch. The Twitter
Speaker 1: account says that it will safely pass by Earth, that
Speaker 1: the closest it would approach is two point six million miles,
Speaker 1: over ten times the distance between the Earth and the Moon.
Speaker 1: Kind of a letdown. Was hoping for a little bit
Speaker 1: more of a rough brush by that might wipe out
Speaker 1: part of the Earth, part of maybe, you know, let's
Speaker 1: change things up? How much? How many miles? Two point
Speaker 1: six millions? So I think, well, it feels safe. I
Speaker 1: don't won't get like a gust of wind or anything.
Speaker 1: Who knows. Listen, what if it says, hey, let's take
Speaker 1: a different direction, dy million casualties I'm not looking for.
Speaker 1: I'm not. It's not so much that I'm longing for that.
Speaker 1: Just like, let's switch things up another year. Oh, what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen this year? The same thing that happened last year,
Speaker 1: the same Super Bowl matchups? How about we just drop
Speaker 1: a big hammer. Oh, take your hotness. I'm doing fine
Speaker 1: compared to you too, not that much better. Well, there's
Speaker 1: only one loser. There's one loser. I've spoken for the
Speaker 1: last time in this show. Anyway, I should be safe
Speaker 1: from the asteroid. But it's in play. And finally, last
Speaker 1: last bit of news. Uh the Senior Bowl. It's Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl week, big game. Uh. So we are now going
Speaker 1: to throw it to our Senior Bowl expert, Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: What are we looking for in this game? Listen? If
Speaker 1: I'm if I'm you know, a Senior Bowl guy, I
Speaker 1: want to say, these guards, these guards and tackles, how
Speaker 1: do you scout these guys. Baker Mayfield is actually, I
Speaker 1: will say, Baker Mayfield. If you're a quarterback, you're a
Speaker 1: quarterback needy team. Baker Mayfield, They're like, Oh, the knock
Speaker 1: on him is he's not big enough. He is the
Speaker 1: most interesting quarterback that I watched this entire season in
Speaker 1: college Footby. I didn't watch a lot, but I watched
Speaker 1: a couple of big quarterback games I did, and he
Speaker 1: was I thought he was fascinating. That Bowl game, someone's
Speaker 1: gonna get someone. I think the Dolphins fans think that
Speaker 1: he wants to go there. Who knows, it's somewhere, it's
Speaker 1: somewhere rare. You have too potential top ten picks at
Speaker 1: quarterback and the Senior Bowl along with Josh Allen and
Speaker 1: I know how this is how you become a Senior
Speaker 1: Bowl and college analysts. You just have to say these words.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not really about the game. You know,
Speaker 1: what's really important is the practices during the week and
Speaker 1: and and they and they're watching everything. You gotta watch,
Speaker 1: like how they are in the meeting rooms, how they
Speaker 1: are with the teaching. You know, it's it's the things
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. Well, you also have to say this like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I gotta be honest. I watched the
Speaker 1: tape out there. He should be at this event, he
Speaker 1: should be at these practices, and I think he should
Speaker 1: have been playing in the game. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: doing himself any favors. Kids got a high ceiling. I
Speaker 1: don't know why we're calling this. Mark Sessler's Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: analysis on the videotape. That was quite a group effort.
Speaker 1: Well done there. That's what's happening in the news. Two
Speaker 1: to one to one, and right now, Greg in great position,
Speaker 1: not one. He didn't Dan say it three times two
Speaker 1: to one, say what what did you talking about? You
Speaker 1: said it once? Initially that got wiped away because he
Speaker 1: was expecting the rules. Yeah, and we already decided that
Speaker 1: that was not that was not part of the country.
Speaker 1: We're tied right now, we are tied. Mark right behind
Speaker 1: Greg zip in his lip. You're not getting I don't
Speaker 1: win it. You don't win anything for this game. You
Speaker 1: just avoid going to the room. The fl Media Agney
Speaker 1: Center is standing by. They have there's gonna be someone
Speaker 1: right outside of the podcast studio at the end of
Speaker 1: the show. All right, here we go, shoulders of greatness
Speaker 1: presented by and it's Oders. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And what's great? Being a head coach is great? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean what's better? That's that's the goal, right for millions, million, millions,
Speaker 1: maybe like eight hundred thousand, two one point four million
Speaker 1: people in this country, their dream is to be an
Speaker 1: NFL head coach. Right, there's only thirty two big chairs.
Speaker 1: That sounded that sounds like, that sounds high high. I
Speaker 1: really don't have any basis for coming up with that
Speaker 1: might be right hard to refute it, So I think
Speaker 1: I'm clear on this one point four mill But there's
Speaker 1: only thirty two jobs at any one time, and now
Speaker 1: they're all, though not officially filled, there will be two
Speaker 1: more officially filled right after the big game on Sunday, uh,
Speaker 1: twelve days from now. Um, everyone has their coach set
Speaker 1: for the season. So let's just spin through the league
Speaker 1: and go through. Uh. You know, we've talked about a
Speaker 1: lot of these hires, us that they happen or most
Speaker 1: of them, but let's now it's been some to ones.
Speaker 1: Let's start, though, uh with one of the brand new ones. Actually,
Speaker 1: why don't we start with the Arizona Cardinals, who have
Speaker 1: um found their replacement for Bruce Arians uh, and it
Speaker 1: is former Panthers defensive coordinator Steve Wilkes uh. Became their
Speaker 1: new head coach on Monday. A four year contract with
Speaker 1: the Cards includes the fifth year option. That's pretty standard,
Speaker 1: right for these coaching gigs, unless you're a Gruden type. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah, we don't know the money usually,
Speaker 1: but yeah, anyway, your thoughts, Uh, we'll start with you
Speaker 1: on this one, Greg, your thoughts on this higher. Patrick
Speaker 1: Peterson likes it, by the way, he tweeted three words
Speaker 1: all caps, I love it. You hear great things about him. Uh.
Speaker 1: Mike Garrett Folo on our network really put his name
Speaker 1: out there and just was as strong as possible that
Speaker 1: he thinks it's gonna be a great higher because of
Speaker 1: how Wilkes, you know, works with people, and that's how
Speaker 1: he got hired. He was kind of a guy who's
Speaker 1: known as a leader in the room and has a
Speaker 1: lot of respect, and that's what head coaching is about.
Speaker 1: A lot of times you wonder who's going to be
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator there. That's kind of another discussion, but
Speaker 1: it reminds a lot of people that Bruce Arians was
Speaker 1: the final choice in the coaching cycle h four years ago,
Speaker 1: not an afterthought exactly because he was known well, but
Speaker 1: he wasn't the guy everyone wanted, and the Cardinals did
Speaker 1: very well. Picking him kind of laughed among that group,
Speaker 1: and Wilkes similarly interviewed with a lot of teams, and
Speaker 1: the Cardinals were most impressed by him. They were, of
Speaker 1: all the searches, the most methodical. They kept saying overtly,
Speaker 1: we want to take our time. That's just what they
Speaker 1: did with with Arians. And when Arians was announced, it
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, well that's not as flashy as probably
Speaker 1: some of the other people. That he was by far
Speaker 1: the most fascinating coach that of that coaching year's cycle,
Speaker 1: and with Wilkes, like speaking to Norman, He's basically tweeted
Speaker 1: to Patrick Peterson and said, you want the one guy
Speaker 1: they can take you and make you better, it's this guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, they players love him, and I think it's
Speaker 1: also the one job with a lot of questions because
Speaker 1: you've got an you've got Carson Palmer maybe out of
Speaker 1: the door. You've got a lot to do on offense.
Speaker 1: I think, so they need patients. You've got a great
Speaker 1: GM there and Steve Kinmey. Gotta give him time to
Speaker 1: rebuild that side of the ball. Yeah, they have a
Speaker 1: lot of talent on that roster. I mean they're gonna
Speaker 1: get David Johnson back. But I think that's a tough
Speaker 1: spot for someone to start as a head coach, their
Speaker 1: first gig without a clear answer at quarterback. And he's
Speaker 1: a defensive coach and they had a really good defense
Speaker 1: and now you know they're changing their defense. James Betcher,
Speaker 1: their coordinator, is expected to leave, and so it's all
Speaker 1: about who's going to be the offensive coordinator. John d
Speaker 1: Filippo is believed to be a candidate, though they would
Speaker 1: have to wait for the Eagles QB coach, who you
Speaker 1: know was gonna interview for their head coaching job, and
Speaker 1: so that that would be a nice tandem. And then
Speaker 1: Mike McCoy and Darryl Bevil are also expected to Someone
Speaker 1: has got to make d Filippo an offensive coordinator. This
Speaker 1: would be a great spot for that because he works
Speaker 1: well with young quarterbacks. They wanted Mahomes last year. If
Speaker 1: you get another young if you have to draft someone,
Speaker 1: then you've got the right coach with him. I think
Speaker 1: this is a collegen you hit on it, and I agree.
Speaker 1: I think this is a tough job because you're replacing
Speaker 1: a guy arians was kind of the most notable head
Speaker 1: coach in that franchise's history and was a guy that
Speaker 1: was Yeah he was so he's He's a tough act
Speaker 1: to follow. We talked about it. We've talked about it before.
Speaker 1: You want to be the guy that follows the guy.
Speaker 1: You want to be the guy that follows the guy
Speaker 1: that followed the guy. Rams and the division. The Rams
Speaker 1: with Seahawks are in flux, but they're still around. And
Speaker 1: the forty Niners their team on the rise. Uh, and
Speaker 1: you don't have a quarterback. It's just I'm Steve Wilkes.
Speaker 1: I'm like, the job was good, great, I'm so happy,
Speaker 1: but I know this could be an uphill battle for
Speaker 1: you have a good GM and with Steve Kin, which
Speaker 1: is huge. I mean that's kind bum that's uh big
Speaker 1: piece to the puzzle. And you have David Johnson, Patrick Peterson,
Speaker 1: Honey Badger Chandler Jos Honey Badger definitely coming back. Got
Speaker 1: some players. You have stars, you have stars, Honey Badger
Speaker 1: not but most likely another new hire just became official
Speaker 1: on Monday was Mike Frabel, who was officially announced as
Speaker 1: the Titans head coach. Rabel had previously had coached with
Speaker 1: the Texans. Uh. He was their linebackers coach and he
Speaker 1: spent two thousand seventeen as their defensive coordinator, so he's
Speaker 1: kind of made a quick rise up the ranks. He
Speaker 1: had his press conference on Monday, and a lot of this,
Speaker 1: a lot about the Titans job is about who can
Speaker 1: develop Marcus Mariotta and take him to the next level,
Speaker 1: because there's so much potential there, as we saw in
Speaker 1: their late season run on display. Again, here's what he
Speaker 1: had to say in his memories of coaching against Mariotta.
Speaker 1: We were scared to death. You know, he pulled a
Speaker 1: football on jadeveon Clowney and and and ran forty yards
Speaker 1: and thank god he he he pulled his hands to
Speaker 1: ring running forty yards and that game would have been
Speaker 1: what it was that day in Houston. So he's a
Speaker 1: special talent and I was a special kid. And uh,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I can't wait to work with him
Speaker 1: and help him through, you know, taking that next step
Speaker 1: in his career. But you know, you you get a
Speaker 1: quarterback that pulls it on on j D. You know,
Speaker 1: you better have you know, some cohonists because j D
Speaker 1: normally swallows those guys up. Where is he from that?
Speaker 1: What's that accent? I think he's from. Isn't he from Pennsylvania?
Speaker 1: Physically impressive? Colleen, Were you surprised and they have to
Speaker 1: get their um you know, offense, the offensive side of
Speaker 1: the ball, the coaching side set up well and and
Speaker 1: to help Mariotte. Are you surprised that they went defensive
Speaker 1: at head coach? Yeah, well, I think you hit on
Speaker 1: it to two things in your side. Up of that
Speaker 1: sound by the quick rise for him, I mean, I
Speaker 1: think the one of the main concerns about him is
Speaker 1: his lack of coaching experience. I mean, he has a
Speaker 1: on a playing experience, but that coaching experience that's tough.
Speaker 1: And also the development of Marcus Mariota him being a
Speaker 1: defensive guy. I know he hit on it in his
Speaker 1: press conference talking about how the n C Double A
Speaker 1: is like a farm system for the NFL, And I
Speaker 1: think that they're going to lean on a lot of
Speaker 1: collegiate concepts in that offense, a lot of your favorite thing,
Speaker 1: Dan r p o s, bootlegs, things like that. But
Speaker 1: That division is tough, and it's gonna be even tougher
Speaker 1: next year. The a f C South. You have Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson coming back, you have the Jaguars doing their thing,
Speaker 1: and and you're, yeah, Andrew lock is back and healthy.
Speaker 1: That's tough. I mean, Rabel came from Ohio State and
Speaker 1: he tried to hire Ryan Day. You talk about college
Speaker 1: concepts their co offensive coordinator, and it sounds like that's
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. So it is a huge I wonder
Speaker 1: if John D. Flippo could ever be in the mix here.
Speaker 1: I mean, I haven't heard that yet. But you got
Speaker 1: to find the right guy. It has to be someone
Speaker 1: that can maximize Mariota. The big issue with Malarkey was
Speaker 1: developing players on offense. We heard that over and over,
Speaker 1: so you can't you can't go with a risky guy
Speaker 1: with that experience. That's a huge el for were able
Speaker 1: to take right off the bat, because you would think
Speaker 1: he went in there with the plan of like you know,
Speaker 1: you would think number the question number one is who
Speaker 1: is going to coach Mariota And you would think his
Speaker 1: plan was Ryan Day. From all accounts, I mean, the
Speaker 1: Tennessee and reported it was gonna happen, and he Ryan
Speaker 1: Day had worked under, had coached under Chip Kelly, had
Speaker 1: also played under Chip. Kelly was essentially kind of gonna
Speaker 1: bring that sort of offense for Mariota, which he obviously
Speaker 1: excelled at Oregon. Meanwhile, Mariota's old Oregon coach is going
Speaker 1: to be coordinating the Chicago Bears, which is also very interesting.
Speaker 1: And Rabel didn't get that guy. I don't know who
Speaker 1: they're gonna bring in, but it seems like that was
Speaker 1: kind of the plan. And on top of it, I mean,
Speaker 1: not surprising with a defensive head coach, but Dick lebo
Speaker 1: is gone fifty nine year coaching career, eighty years old,
Speaker 1: looks like he was. That's right. You got to find
Speaker 1: a new Rabel or he's a head coach, I guess.
Speaker 1: But you know, I couldn't love get an assistant job.
Speaker 1: He could get his back. He might get another job
Speaker 1: like senior assistant to the you know we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to we have to redo that. He calibrates the whole
Speaker 1: rankings of hot assistant coaches. John d. Filippo in that mix.
Speaker 1: Not a Pablican guy. I'm just throwing out. It's always
Speaker 1: at the table. Doesn't even matter of the category. He's
Speaker 1: just just like it was like, gentleman, a nice guy
Speaker 1: looks getting this swim suit. It's like if you say
Speaker 1: that so, and I should have looked like that. I
Speaker 1: should have looked this up before the show. But Lebow
Speaker 1: was a star player. I think went right into coaching, correct,
Speaker 1: right the next year. I think he retired in seventy two.
Speaker 1: I think it's a fourteen year career with the Lions
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, still the tenth in the NFL history,
Speaker 1: and interceptions started his career the next year, long time
Speaker 1: O C R d C with the Bengals was briefly
Speaker 1: their head coach, then moved to Pittsburgh. And I think
Speaker 1: that a lot of people probably remember more from his
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh days now, right, and now he's got to get
Speaker 1: a job or that streak ends I mean, I think,
Speaker 1: I mean source close to him according to Tennessee and
Speaker 1: said that the Tennessee thing ended, he would be comfortable retiring.
Speaker 1: That said, who knows, and basically, yeah, it vented his
Speaker 1: own blitz. Would you see on almost every defense out there.
Speaker 1: I think I've probably mentioned this on the show before,
Speaker 1: but as a prominent character in one of the great
Speaker 1: football books ever written, Paper Lion, by George Plimpton, in
Speaker 1: which Dick Lebow is a country music singing renegade cornerback.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of like a wild like kind of
Speaker 1: wild child. Now, yeah, I just gotta I guess got
Speaker 1: a like a fast forward to a football Life episode
Speaker 1: on NFL network, and it's like he'll be talking to
Speaker 1: his daughter's like or maybe his wife. Dick didn't know
Speaker 1: what to do when there was no more football. It's
Speaker 1: all he ever knew, like on their like farm with
Speaker 1: like the horse. It's like the third act of everyone.
Speaker 1: And Okay, why do we gotta wait eight years like
Speaker 1: a true crime? So they could have that thing edited
Speaker 1: and finished a month from now. I mean it's gonna
Speaker 1: Dick stays active. Dick. He's been working with the high
Speaker 1: school team, and he'll always be a coach, whether or
Speaker 1: not he's in the NFL. This man will always be
Speaker 1: attached to football. Commercial break not a bad You should
Speaker 1: just write it yourself. Well, it's a true story. We're
Speaker 1: waiting for it. Okay. Other Anti Lebo by the way,
Speaker 1: man's uh Matt Naggy not are you sure it's not Neggie,
Speaker 1: because I saw somewhere the that he I know, I
Speaker 1: swear he told someone else that was and he told
Speaker 1: someone that, according to tweets that he and I and
Speaker 1: then I. He also has asked about it at a
Speaker 1: prescott and said he didn't carry either way. Don't don't
Speaker 1: care a guy. He's given to you by your father.
Speaker 1: We need to get it. I think he's going Neggie. Now,
Speaker 1: I like, do we want to accept that? I think
Speaker 1: we don't have a choice. But well, he said we
Speaker 1: have a choice. No, he said, Neggie. But then he said,
Speaker 1: it's because it's gonna be wrong. It's gonna be wrong
Speaker 1: so often that if that, if that's gonna get his
Speaker 1: that's gonna unravel him every day. Have a nice time.
Speaker 1: Like he's got to just say whatever. Al right here,
Speaker 1: it's like Yanique and Gockway I've been calling him Yannick
Speaker 1: and Gockway this whole time. He really he said, I
Speaker 1: think that's okay. R. I don't know. Here we go alright,
Speaker 1: Matt negg Uh. It was officially announced that he used
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears head coaches was earlier this month. We
Speaker 1: already talked about this one, but any other additional comments
Speaker 1: on Neggie, we've it's already been success that we brought
Speaker 1: him up on the show, because now we're saying his
Speaker 1: name correctly. The one thing I love is that they
Speaker 1: found a way to retain Vic Fangio and versus versus
Speaker 1: getting another defensive coordinator and who brings a different scheme
Speaker 1: and you gotta reboot the whole thing in Draft eighty
Speaker 1: eight other players. So and I like that he admitted
Speaker 1: the mistakes that he had in the play calling against
Speaker 1: the loss to Tennessee, not running Kareem Hunt more. He
Speaker 1: kind of came right out with it. Like Sunday's game
Speaker 1: was another reminder people blame coaches if anything goes wrong,
Speaker 1: no matter what it's like. No one blamed Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: for continuing to throw away ahead his players just like
Speaker 1: executed better. I'd had no problem with Neggie and and
Speaker 1: one thing we didn't talk about on the show, which
Speaker 1: I just mentioned was his offensive coordinator higher Mark Helford,
Speaker 1: the old Oregon head coach, And that's it's interesting thinking
Speaker 1: about what Andy Reid and Neggie did in Kansas City,
Speaker 1: and they had some pretty forward thinking concepts and now
Speaker 1: they're bringing in that you know the Oregon style system.
Speaker 1: ROBISKI like that that should be a fun Speaking to Peterson,
Speaker 1: It's like it sounds like these read like when you're
Speaker 1: when you're under read for a while, like you learn
Speaker 1: how to do the job. So maybe we don't need
Speaker 1: someone telling us that Matt Neggie can't do isn't a
Speaker 1: head coach in the NFL, and find out two years
Speaker 1: from now that he's in the super Bowl. You hold
Speaker 1: off on that. I'll take this time. Oh you banged, Yeah,
Speaker 1: got banged whipped. Now we're all going to be I
Speaker 1: don't know if we can do this during the show,
Speaker 1: but I want to bring back the sound clip of
Speaker 1: Mark calling out Colleen and Dan from about fifty I
Speaker 1: want that as a sound draft called up on your
Speaker 1: high my Hubris was was overflowing and I paid price.
Speaker 1: Now it's a really weird bonding experience. Three of us
Speaker 1: like holding hands. Anyway, it's to zero now with probably
Speaker 1: only about fifteen minutes of the show. Uh. Jon Gruden,
Speaker 1: of course was hired by the Raiders. They gave him,
Speaker 1: gave him the world and uh one note to share here. Uh, Mark,
Speaker 1: you're really down on this higher? No, I'm kidding. No,
Speaker 1: it's not a yawn. I'm just saying that. Well, but
Speaker 1: in general, you're not hot about it. No, I get
Speaker 1: hot about things to night every time John Gruden speaks.
Speaker 1: Excuse me, we please do a post on that. Like, okay,
Speaker 1: we I get it. Um. His quarterback, His new quarterback,
Speaker 1: Derek Carr, spoke to NBC Sports Bay Areas Scott Bear
Speaker 1: on Monday. A. Uh, there has been some question whether
Speaker 1: Gruden and Derek Carr will work well together. Car a
Speaker 1: sensitive soul perhaps, Uh, some whispers. We wouldn't say that
Speaker 1: because although he did block Gag and I we talked
Speaker 1: it out. We we hugged it out via Skype, and
Speaker 1: we are no longer blocked. So he has the ability
Speaker 1: to change, forgive. He wants John Gruden to be tough
Speaker 1: on him. Here's his quote. John and I are going
Speaker 1: to get along growth great. I hope that he demands
Speaker 1: of me. I hope he's hard on me. I don't
Speaker 1: need to know he loves me. He has already told
Speaker 1: me that about twenty times. I appreciate that, and we'll
Speaker 1: buy and we'll be friends forever. Well, let's be careful
Speaker 1: of that. But I know he'll be demanding and tell
Speaker 1: me what I need to do. Let's go fix problems
Speaker 1: that I have, and let's do what I need to
Speaker 1: do to win championships. So he acknowledges, and he should
Speaker 1: Derek Carr because he was not a great quarterback by
Speaker 1: any stretch last season, that he has things to work on.
Speaker 1: And that's a big reason why Gruden was so alluring,
Speaker 1: I think, to the Raiders because they believe they could
Speaker 1: take he could take Card in the next level or
Speaker 1: at least back to what other interesting notes, Peter King
Speaker 1: mentioned that levy On Bell, if you would think he's
Speaker 1: just gonna roll back to Pittsburgh, that he very much
Speaker 1: could wind up going to the highest bid, and that
Speaker 1: the Raider. He mentioned the Raiders as a team to
Speaker 1: watch Marshawn Lynch. That thing is to end. We get that,
Speaker 1: but they maybe go hard after leve On Bell. That
Speaker 1: would be does Lynch have to end? Don't they have
Speaker 1: him under contract. I'm just saying, I don't need another
Speaker 1: year of it to you are you your are your yearning.
Speaker 1: I don't need to bring in Levan Bell, who I
Speaker 1: would think the Steelers are gonna franchise Tag. But now
Speaker 1: you you're seeing some things that maybe maybe they won't,
Speaker 1: like there was reported in the Post Gazette. I know
Speaker 1: we're a little off topic, but it was really interesting
Speaker 1: that he skipped the entire walk through before the playoff
Speaker 1: game and then he showed up much later for the
Speaker 1: actual playoff game than players are supposed to that team. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm telling and you like, that's like nothing wrong. So
Speaker 1: that's an employee that's saying like I don't want to
Speaker 1: be right. That feels a lot like what happened with
Speaker 1: the Giants to this year, just in terms of players
Speaker 1: kind of going on. But before the championship, that's pretty bad.
Speaker 1: That's if you win the NC championship game, where do
Speaker 1: you go next? You know where you go? The Blank Bowl?
Speaker 1: How about how about they even get to the game.
Speaker 1: He didn't show up to practice before the game, they
Speaker 1: got knocked out of whatever the team they thought they
Speaker 1: were going to wipe away the Jaguars right, and then
Speaker 1: they would advance to obviously very big game, very big
Speaker 1: sporting event, one last thing with too obvious to set up,
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm i I'm on guard mentally on that one.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. One thing I've been tracking, which
Speaker 1: I've enjoyed is this little this little heat between Derek
Speaker 1: Carr and Jack del Rio and that staff in the
Speaker 1: aftermath of them leaving Number one, the play by play
Speaker 1: guy the Raiders said that the Raiders staff turned on
Speaker 1: Derek Carr late in that season, kind of calling him
Speaker 1: out and team meetings and find that Car, I don't know,
Speaker 1: play poor play. I guess against Kansas City or something
Speaker 1: like that, but that Car is a prideful guy, and
Speaker 1: you know that didn't sit too well. And then he
Speaker 1: Car had some comments too. I think it was the
Speaker 1: athletic where he said, well, let's let's be honest. Del
Speaker 1: Rio's a defensive coach and the defense. You know, he
Speaker 1: didn't quite get that turned around, which is a you know,
Speaker 1: you normally don't hear that from the X quarterback. Car
Speaker 1: wins in the end because he is going to be
Speaker 1: playing in the Pro Bowl this week, and then our
Speaker 1: quarterbacks need to quarterback. I uh. And then yeah, Derek
Speaker 1: carrre David Carr. I believe he said he was even
Speaker 1: our our coworker. You know, he was surprised. He said,
Speaker 1: he was personally surprised del Rio even lasted as long
Speaker 1: as he did with really interesting you know, Derek Carr
Speaker 1: playing in the Pro Bowl. He'd much rather be playing
Speaker 1: in the big game, the very large sporting event ahead.
Speaker 1: I have to work. You're kind of you're just taking
Speaker 1: us right. Let's get this like grins on your face,
Speaker 1: you get an entirely different look on your face. What's
Speaker 1: bigger than the Pro Bowl? I mean Orlando Sunday. We've
Speaker 1: got our big preview shoot show coming up on Thursday,
Speaker 1: fifty five minutes breaking down the rosters, so East versus West.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's like, old versus New. It's
Speaker 1: so big that we that the that the string or
Speaker 1: and I will not mention that we've sent to the
Speaker 1: game will be monitoring practices and talking to players, and
Speaker 1: then it's being flown out before the game begins. You're
Speaker 1: not even you gotta use Kevin Patrick's name. Well, no,
Speaker 1: because I don't want. I don't want. I don't want
Speaker 1: him to be attached to that that he should stay
Speaker 1: for the game. But I'm just saying, like, doesn't hear this,
Speaker 1: Let him stay for the game. Don't snitch out Mark,
Speaker 1: because it's not he won't like I talked to Patra
Speaker 1: about forty times more times a week than you do too,
Speaker 1: So he's still part of my world. I'm friends with Patrick.
Speaker 1: Don't you worry about that? It seems like he don't
Speaker 1: try to explore another little mechanism, a little Greg and
Speaker 1: Dan thing I was. I was essentially saying, it's a
Speaker 1: weird as scientist and I'm not attaching a name to it. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: they're all week. He will be big body Patra and
Speaker 1: he's got he's got some scores to settle because Shook
Speaker 1: has gotten a lot of you know, credit, and deservedly
Speaker 1: so for his Bob throughout the season. Now Patri wants,
Speaker 1: he wants the crown. He wants. They don't have remotely
Speaker 1: the same body. I mean, Patra is. Patra is a
Speaker 1: good looking guy. Nick Shook is in a whole different
Speaker 1: universe than anyone in our office outside of Willia mc ginnis.
Speaker 1: That's true. That's very true. Alright, that's great. Um. Also,
Speaker 1: the New York Giants made an official They've hired Pat
Speaker 1: Shermer to be their head coach. And this was an
Speaker 1: announcement that comes after Shermer's season ended the Vikings. He
Speaker 1: was their offensive coordinator. They get knocked out by the Eagles, congratulations, Connie,
Speaker 1: which paves the way for Sherman to take over your
Speaker 1: thoughts on this higher. I was really struck on Sunday
Speaker 1: night because I was, you know, part of the group
Speaker 1: that was talking to Shermer after the game. How quickly
Speaker 1: the mode changes because he essentially was having a Giants
Speaker 1: press conference in the locker room of Minnesota. Not in
Speaker 1: a bad way. I mean, he handled it all perfectly.
Speaker 1: What could he do? He's just surrounded by New York
Speaker 1: right press, and I thought he was very professional. But
Speaker 1: the most important thing, you know, when you think about
Speaker 1: the Giants is the quarterback situation, and the reports are
Speaker 1: that they hired him because they thought he could salvage
Speaker 1: and improve Eli Manning and the end of his career,
Speaker 1: while at the same time, uh tutoring a new quarterback
Speaker 1: that they're going to bring in. So that to me
Speaker 1: answers the number one question with the Giants. I think
Speaker 1: that's the plan. It's so weird that he from on
Speaker 1: Sunday night playing almost being in the big game too,
Speaker 1: going to the Senior Bowl and scouting with Dave Gettlman
Speaker 1: this week like that, just just seeing those two things
Speaker 1: next to each other, and it's so crazy how they
Speaker 1: do have to switch so fast and then they have
Speaker 1: the number two overall picks, So that's a that's a
Speaker 1: big deal here and a big thing that he has
Speaker 1: to make a decision on the team. Huge comeback story,
Speaker 1: because I think it's easy to forget that. The one
Speaker 1: thing that happened Sherman that was really unfair to any coaches.
Speaker 1: There was a there was an ownership change in the
Speaker 1: middle of his Browns regime that clearly he was not
Speaker 1: seen as the guy going forward. But I'm not sure
Speaker 1: he would have lasted much longer no matter who the
Speaker 1: owner was, because it was it was a really messy run,
Speaker 1: and it was a messy run, not for his reasons alone,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't someone that you heard reports of, Wow,
Speaker 1: this guy really connects with players, He really like these
Speaker 1: This guy is a magnetic personality. He wasn't with the media.
Speaker 1: Lindsey covered him, and she she's got some comments on that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's just that do you, lindsay, do you
Speaker 1: want to? I just I've got like a whole library
Speaker 1: of sound drops with Pat Shermer, because he would say
Speaker 1: the most bizarre things during a press conference, like what
Speaker 1: how like how do you mean. I think it's important
Speaker 1: on defense that you prevent the score. Gowing and catching
Speaker 1: is very important. You're in third and long because you
Speaker 1: didn't do something right on first and seconds. Belichick says
Speaker 1: that if Belichick says that, it's like, oh yeah, Belichick,
Speaker 1: he's just kind of knows how to like gloss over
Speaker 1: the reporter. Shermer says it when the team is suffering,
Speaker 1: it's like, but I think it's fair to wonder how
Speaker 1: he'll handle the New York I think so, because it's
Speaker 1: you're going you're going that as a content. Cleveland's a
Speaker 1: cantankerous media outlet. Obviously New York's a whole different beast.
Speaker 1: But it got ugly at the end of Shermer, he
Speaker 1: got testy with reporters. And so you're gonna be under
Speaker 1: One thing is your Ben McAdoo left that locker room
Speaker 1: in absolute messy status. You're gonna have to go in
Speaker 1: and how do you handle one of the toughest locker
Speaker 1: rooms in sports? It's New York. I mean, you've got
Speaker 1: a lot of other agenda's going on. They do a
Speaker 1: really good job with the Vikings. The last job two weeks.
Speaker 1: Their protection really failed them on on Monday, I mean
Speaker 1: on Sunday, and I you know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: Shermer is totally at fault for that, but they really
Speaker 1: had a tough time kind of picking up where the
Speaker 1: egos pressure was gonna go. So he had a rough,
Speaker 1: a rough game. But I mean he's done. He's been
Speaker 1: a different coach since he was with Chip. I do
Speaker 1: think it's a comeback story because he he went out
Speaker 1: and reinvented himself. But do you see so I get
Speaker 1: Eli Manning in the draft pick, but you're also going
Speaker 1: to potentially have case Keenum, Sam Bradford or Teddy Bridgewater
Speaker 1: out there, people that he knows. Would he ever chase
Speaker 1: one of those guys? Why it says no? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna trust the reporting for now. Heck, nick Foles
Speaker 1: I think could be available and he coached you know,
Speaker 1: he said he wasn't surprised how well Nick Foles play
Speaker 1: because he's seen Nick Foles play well. The report also
Speaker 1: is that he's gonna hire del Rio as a defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator coordinator and that's a risky higher in my mind, uh,
Speaker 1: just because they had continuity with spags. James Petchell also
Speaker 1: mentioned but del Rio is the favorite. It's weird. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is mark a great comeback tail, Yes, it is
Speaker 1: sure rules with all Successler come back colonels, Barccessler come
Speaker 1: back clinls with Barceessler come back colonels with Barcessler come
Speaker 1: back colonels with Barccessler come back colonels with Barccesslers come back.
Speaker 1: Also in the news, Josh McDaniels expected to be hired
Speaker 1: by the Colts. Matt Patricia expected to be hired by
Speaker 1: the Lions. Not official yet for obvious reasons. Um both
Speaker 1: men tied up with the Patriots right now? Good hires both? Well,
Speaker 1: why not? I feel like these exprest mentioned before. I
Speaker 1: mean the only surprises it's happening now versus a year
Speaker 1: ago or even too. McDaniels has a spotty record as
Speaker 1: a head coach, but I feel like ancient history to me.
Speaker 1: The one thing I'll say about m mcbe McDaniels when
Speaker 1: he has been outside of the New England system. His
Speaker 1: offense in Denver ranked nineteen and twenty in points, and
Speaker 1: you remember that year he went to St. Louis to
Speaker 1: be the offensive coordinator thirty second in points. It's not
Speaker 1: the same thing when you don't have it. It's not
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels alone cooking up what's happening in New England.
Speaker 1: Is an incredible talent around him, and they don't They
Speaker 1: don't botch front office hirings off in there. They bring
Speaker 1: in the right players. So, you know, let's see what
Speaker 1: you can do on your own. Yeah, we know what McDaniels.
Speaker 1: He's already starting to put together a staff, which I
Speaker 1: can't imagine having to be in that position while you're
Speaker 1: preparing for a Super Bowl and you're also trying to
Speaker 1: figure out who you're going to even be working with
Speaker 1: next year. But I know that he's looking at Dallas
Speaker 1: linebacker coach to be the d C. Did I say it?
Speaker 1: Did I say? Goodness? Oh no, you're done. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't even feel like finishing that thought. Forget it.
Speaker 1: So mad, I'm so mad. You know what you can do?
Speaker 1: By the way, Greg you are, I can just say
Speaker 1: it was definitely. Yeah. I don't want to not even
Speaker 1: once you want to, you want to pitch to complete? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why would could could you see any of it? Could
Speaker 1: you see? Well? It's like rex Burghead, Dion Lewis, Amundel,
Speaker 1: they're all free agents after this season. What you think
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels tries and gets goes out and get some
Speaker 1: of his own guys or map Patricia for they. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's part of the issue with when different Patriots assistants
Speaker 1: get jobs, is that they're all looking at the same players.
Speaker 1: And this will be mentioned a lot over the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, but it's the exact same scenario as
Speaker 1: as two thousand four when Charlie Weiss and Romeo Cornell
Speaker 1: we're leaving town, although Weiss was going to college, like
Speaker 1: can they win there? That would be cool. Bring some
Speaker 1: Patriots players back to the college running, So that would
Speaker 1: be the next let that. The one thing I want
Speaker 1: to throw out there with McDaniels is it doesn't sound
Speaker 1: like this is a hundred percent done. Everyone is expecting
Speaker 1: that this is done, done, done, and McDaniels at various
Speaker 1: points has made decisions not to take jobs, and you
Speaker 1: just get the sense that it's not a hundred percent
Speaker 1: like Patricia, it's it's locked and loaded that things happening.
Speaker 1: I don't know if McDaniels gets there and jeremyr say
Speaker 1: it gets a weird vibe. I don't know. It seems
Speaker 1: like it was a total and they hire they hire
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, and Josh McDaniels takes over the Patriots. So
Speaker 1: there you go. That is the coach reset seg And
Speaker 1: it's only it's only possible because we all stand on
Speaker 1: the shoulders of greatness presented by head and shoulders. Now
Speaker 1: I'm not talking again because I'm in the clear. Me too. Man,
Speaker 1: you'll be both Connie Fox heading towards a world of hurt.
Speaker 1: I'm so angry about this. All right, it's fine, let's
Speaker 1: move on. It's called discipline. But now I don't have
Speaker 1: any of that. You guys know that you should not
Speaker 1: be a surprised of the show. As I've said, Uh wait,
Speaker 1: stops this is your production, this show today. Why did
Speaker 1: they stop the show? I don't know. But we have one.
Speaker 1: We have one after the super Bowl. No, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: still in a pretty bad space about Philadelphia super Bowl Free.
Speaker 1: I'm still hanging. You don't know that. I'm fine. Wait,
Speaker 1: but what about all the people out there that want
Speaker 1: to know the rankings between the Patriots and the Eagles
Speaker 1: and the vikings that matter? Maybe though I can still
Speaker 1: ahead of the Eagle, doesn't matter anymore. All right, colle
Speaker 1: just enjoy the last ten minutes or so that you
Speaker 1: have before life takes a really dark turn before the center. Um.
Speaker 1: As we said, Christian Anderson has done yeoman's work behind
Speaker 1: the glass all season long on our video show, which again,
Speaker 1: if you're not watching this video show on Tuesday, you
Speaker 1: should because it's fun and it will be live streamed
Speaker 1: uh at six pm Pacific, nine pm Eastern uh NFL
Speaker 1: dot com slash a t N Videos. And now to
Speaker 1: close out our video shows for the twenty seventeen season,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it to Christian Anderson. As I said
Speaker 1: at the top of the show, a man that grew
Speaker 1: up in Tinseltown or Tinseltown adjacent in the valley, and uh,
Speaker 1: the man has stories. So we said, Christian, why don't
Speaker 1: you spin a yarn from your days of your I'm
Speaker 1: like a uniform corn. No one is ever from here,
Speaker 1: and especially in our business, everyone's always from Syracuse or Northwestern.
Speaker 1: Oh that's true, all those jerks. So here we go
Speaker 1: Christian Anderson presents and this in honor Christian Anderson is
Speaker 1: one of his boyhood friends. Not a joke. Paul Thomas
Speaker 1: Anderson no relation just got nominated for an Oscar for
Speaker 1: Best Picture and Director. H Panta film you like a
Speaker 1: lot to threats on the best movies they've seen in years.
Speaker 1: Got a text message in the production meeting about it
Speaker 1: from p T A no from my wife. Cool, it's
Speaker 1: still cools. In case you haven't heard, Christian childhood friend.
Speaker 1: She knows him longer than I did, so you are
Speaker 1: interested in the scene. So here we go. Christian anders
Speaker 1: and presents real life tales from Hollywood High Take it away, Christian.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna give you two stories, the first being,
Speaker 1: you know, a graduation party from high school. My friend
Speaker 1: Shane Conrad, whose dad was Robert Conrad from Bob Bob
Speaker 1: Black Sheep, a famous competitor from the Star you know,
Speaker 1: the What's the Stars Networks Gabe kaplan their famous face off.
Speaker 1: So the graduation party was at their house at the
Speaker 1: Colony in Malibu, which a tony area. Yes, you had,
Speaker 1: there's a gate. Every house is at least at that time,
Speaker 1: ten to twelve million dollars. They go out over the ocean,
Speaker 1: so they allow us. The high school kids have a
Speaker 1: bonfire on the beach. Everyone ends up crashing and sleeping
Speaker 1: on the beach. I go back to my car the
Speaker 1: Dots in two eighties X, and I put the seat
Speaker 1: back and I fall asleep. Slash pass out after a
Speaker 1: party with as aforementioned Paul and and and others O
Speaker 1: P t as at this party, of course, of course,
Speaker 1: as he's wont to do. So I'm I'm in the car,
Speaker 1: the sun is rising, It's a foggy Malibu morning after
Speaker 1: this hazy night, and I and I just kind of
Speaker 1: look out out my window and someone has bent over
Speaker 1: staring at me as I'm sleeping in the car. And
Speaker 1: it's Charlie Sheen at six fift in the morning of it,
Speaker 1: walking his dog, just getting home from wherever he was
Speaker 1: the night before. And so I'm, you know, staring at
Speaker 1: Charlie Sheen on at a high school party that was
Speaker 1: on the beach amalibus. That's one. Are we giving years?
Speaker 1: I mean how old she would you guess? I would
Speaker 1: say he's early twenties after this? Is he soon after platoon?
Speaker 1: After platoon he said he's a a jeans star at
Speaker 1: that point. Oh he's raging something, yes at that time, yes,
Speaker 1: So I got Chash Sheen staring at me. So that's
Speaker 1: that's a good one, and I'll give you one more,
Speaker 1: just to bring it back. So we talked about My
Speaker 1: high school was a very elite high school. Lots of
Speaker 1: lots of famous alums. I got a little quick list
Speaker 1: here of some share Michael Jackson and Michael Jackson, the
Speaker 1: aforementioned Pete Robin, Stephen Dorff, Danny Pentaro, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Eve Plumb from Brady Bunch, Yeah, Frank Sinatra Jr. And
Speaker 1: the current manager of the Arizona Dimebacks, Tory Lavolo. Just
Speaker 1: to throw in a little athletic. So it's a very
Speaker 1: wealthy school. I was not one of those wealthy. I
Speaker 1: know that. I'm not on the Wikipedia page. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: a wealthy school. Listeners will handle that. I was not
Speaker 1: part of the wealthy. My assistant coaches at the time,
Speaker 1: we're not making that kind of money. But my current wife,
Speaker 1: who at the time was not a a romantic insterest
Speaker 1: just friends. Like she gave me the heisman. At the time,
Speaker 1: she was from the wealthy side. So first time we
Speaker 1: go to hang out, we're gonna go see a movie.
Speaker 1: I go pick her up and I'm driving up the
Speaker 1: hill above Ventura Boulevard to the top and I'm coming
Speaker 1: from the flats, and so I picked her up in
Speaker 1: this old Porsche bucket and where she goes, Hey, did
Speaker 1: you see the Karate Kid house on the way out?
Speaker 1: I said, no, what karate kid house? She goes, oh,
Speaker 1: you know Elizabeth Shoes house at at the end of
Speaker 1: the block. When they picked her up for the date.
Speaker 1: Remember the car stalled. They had the bump start as
Speaker 1: they start their date. I'm like, well, great, send me
Speaker 1: that way. So again, bucket, Porsche we go, and there's
Speaker 1: the house. It's at like the end of the call.
Speaker 1: The second I see it and I'm like, wow, that's
Speaker 1: really cool, and I start inching up and kind of
Speaker 1: looking at it, and I've got this, you know, pretty girl.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm feeling pretty good about myself. And just as
Speaker 1: we're in front of the house sideways, I'm looking glo
Speaker 1: globe car stalls. So I had to bump my car
Speaker 1: at the start of what I thought was a date
Speaker 1: in front of the same house that Ralph Macco had
Speaker 1: to bump start in the car with his mom in
Speaker 1: the movie Karate Kid. Is that meta? Yeah? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so. Christian these are great stories. Wow, so that's
Speaker 1: too well. I thought you would, and you didn't even
Speaker 1: include I guess it wasn't from Hollywood high but you
Speaker 1: didn't even include the story of your softball team made
Speaker 1: up the reruns of of X Yeah sitcom actor. We
Speaker 1: were called the reruns because everyone who was on the
Speaker 1: team their shows were in rerun. So it was honorary
Speaker 1: coach Harvey Corman. You've got who was Corman from Just
Speaker 1: the Blazing Saddles, Yeah, head lady Lamar. You had uh
Speaker 1: Jack Riley who was a coach who was on New
Speaker 1: Heart Show. You had Ronnie Shell who was Goldbert Pyle's
Speaker 1: best friend. And Fred Willard was the center fielder. He
Speaker 1: was center field Fred Willard from like Best in Show. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the best part was we would have it at
Speaker 1: the range for a center field there. Yeah. Right, So
Speaker 1: we had an end a year party and all these
Speaker 1: guys would get up and they would do ten to
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes of comedy in front of all their friends,
Speaker 1: just whatever they can to bust people up. So that
Speaker 1: was like the best part of the year. These guys
Speaker 1: would get up, two hundred years of Hollywood experience up
Speaker 1: doing is whatever bits and me in the back of
Speaker 1: the room not supposed to be there. Quick question, how
Speaker 1: did you get on a team built of former rerun
Speaker 1: comic stand up people. So my brother's best friend at
Speaker 1: the time was Ronnie Shell's son, and so I was
Speaker 1: constantly driving them back and forth. Got to know Ronny
Speaker 1: and he needed a ringer because the age difference was there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they brought in Jonathan Silverman. Silverman came on the team
Speaker 1: just to young get up a little bit as well
Speaker 1: when they brought me Course of a Weekend at Bernie's
Speaker 1: Fame and the later sitcom The Single Guy, the many
Speaker 1: failed post friends, pre Seinfeld time slot comedies, and the
Speaker 1: musty TV line up. So that's just a dip of
Speaker 1: the toe into the waters plastic, Christian, you've done it,
Speaker 1: one of our best Did I go out? Yes? Why
Speaker 1: did we introduce one of our best segments ever? Minutes
Speaker 1: before this segment of the podcast Raps Forever, there was doubt.
Speaker 1: Maybe there's something to look forward to next season because
Speaker 1: we hope Christian you were back with us going forward.
Speaker 1: We don't know what the future holds. Perhaps sales can
Speaker 1: sell this and sell the show as part of it,
Speaker 1: maybe bring me back. Yeah, but I had a great
Speaker 1: time of season. I love working with you guys. It
Speaker 1: was fun. It was a great great Lindsay and everyone
Speaker 1: behind the glass has done such great works. Is not
Speaker 1: an easy show to put together sometimes most most of
Speaker 1: all because of the people on this side of the
Speaker 1: glass make it difficult at times. But we got through it.
Speaker 1: We made it through twenty week, especially Collegen all her
Speaker 1: rules and that well, you have somewhere to go. Actually
Speaker 1: soundly alarmed because Connie does have somewhere to go. Superol
Speaker 1: super Bowl, super Bowl NFL Media Agony Center where she
Speaker 1: will get a whipping. It sounds for the listener, made
Speaker 1: graphics to flow. Oh god, no, we will be eight
Speaker 1: to three. She loses to the storeboard, the no hitter.
Speaker 1: Nice job, Greg, beautiful work. We will be back on
Speaker 1: Thursday with one more show this week. Uh, no show
Speaker 1: this weekend? And then what is this happening? What is that?
Speaker 1: Here's a loose cannon our tempos. He rolls in with
Speaker 1: a life size cutout of Erica. Hi. Hell a way
Speaker 1: to end the show for anyone watching on a blazer
Speaker 1: actually his actual height, I don't know. It looks like
Speaker 1: it's size to life. Just another reason why to check
Speaker 1: out the A T N video show and then fel
Speaker 1: dot Com slash a t N video. We'll be back
Speaker 1: on Thursday, traveling. That's weird with Justin Timber like over
Speaker 1: my traveling over the weekend, and then we have three
Speaker 1: shows super Bowl Week including of course the Sunday Night
Speaker 1: Doesn't Matter, including the Sunday Night recap show and a
Speaker 1: full video show that will air next Friday. We'll do
Speaker 1: a whole show from the Mall of America. Connie Fox
Speaker 1: will be involved. If you survive what's about to happen,
Speaker 1: that's it for the show. This is Dan Hanson signing
Speaker 1: off or a Quiet Storm, Tiny Box, JT. Man of
Speaker 1: the Woods, the Old Boss, Lindsey Fulton, and Christian Anderson,
Speaker 1: Mr Hollywood have self behind the Glass Tell Thursday two