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Speaker 1: be Around the NFL podcast uses too many pronouns. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast,
Speaker 1: presented by Head and Shoulders. My name is Dan Jansas
Speaker 1: and I am joined in a room that is just well,
Speaker 1: a hotel room that is filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, Kevin Patra, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up? Boys? Hey? Dan, Hey,
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick, come in at you? What? Oh? Here? We
Speaker 1: are back in the hotel, a different hotel room. We're
Speaker 1: in room five twelve now moving on up in the world.
Speaker 1: Literally we're in four oh one maybe one of the
Speaker 1: more luxurious locales we've ever filmed. We've got two of
Speaker 1: three of you sitting on nice color couches, Patra on
Speaker 1: a nice foldout share Mark on a table table. I
Speaker 1: don't want to, um, I don't want to complain because
Speaker 1: the NFL on balance takes care of us. But I
Speaker 1: did go downtown where we're just on the outskirts near
Speaker 1: the Mall of America, which is technically in Blooming blue
Speaker 1: Field whatever, UM I took. I took a uber downtown yesterday,
Speaker 1: UM to get drinks. And the hotel where the majority
Speaker 1: of NFL media talent is staying is the Hyatt and
Speaker 1: the Hilton, and the differences between those places in this place,
Speaker 1: it is a perfect metaphor for how we are viewed
Speaker 1: in this company overall. Well, we chose to come to
Speaker 1: this hotel, right, and and there's like ten talent I
Speaker 1: can think of at the top of my head that
Speaker 1: are staying at this hotel that are pretty big time
Speaker 1: in this company and playing about stuff subjective. This is
Speaker 1: my favorite. Yeah, I like this one. I like this
Speaker 1: one better, But you haven't seen the special. Like remember Mark,
Speaker 1: our first super Bowl in Indianapolis and we were in
Speaker 1: the Marriott, and there's Jerry Jones and Michael Irvine and
Speaker 1: the ladies and the fireplace and the champagne flutes. That's
Speaker 1: what's going on at the hotels where everyone else is
Speaker 1: staying with us. So it's been a distinctly different super
Speaker 1: Bowl Week for I would feel personally on on many levels.
Speaker 1: And our location has is packed into that and it's
Speaker 1: been nice west and I just like you guys on Monday,
Speaker 1: went to do a hit on Sky Sports for their
Speaker 1: show this week, and it's like you can just walk
Speaker 1: across the street to the mall, you walk right back.
Speaker 1: I went shopping yesterday. I would say it feels like
Speaker 1: I worked a lot of corporate jobs before the NFL,
Speaker 1: and considering super Bowl Week, it feels much more like
Speaker 1: sort of bizarre three day trips that I would take
Speaker 1: to like some random state and you'd stay somewhere by
Speaker 1: the highway. That's what this business to weddings like up
Speaker 1: here a wedding where you travel and you're staying at
Speaker 1: the hotel that's near or wherever the reception is. But
Speaker 1: I'm not paying a cent for it. So I just
Speaker 1: want to say thank you, first of all to Chris
Speaker 1: Westling because Wes he made it to the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: preview podcast this year, apparently, do we want to now
Speaker 1: that a full year has passed, west do you wanna
Speaker 1: just let the cat out of that out of the
Speaker 1: bag and what happened last year? Because you were mysteriously
Speaker 1: absent from this important podcast. A year ago, I had
Speaker 1: some major issues with a feature article I was writing,
Speaker 1: and my laptops shut down completely, just evaporated on me.
Speaker 1: R I T department was clueless on how to fix it.
Speaker 1: I lost the whole article. So there were many sleepless
Speaker 1: nights and I plowed right through with a nap during
Speaker 1: the preview podcast. Unbeknownst to me at the time, I
Speaker 1: had cancer. So maybe that was a factor that you were.
Speaker 1: I already handed it in my stating, I already hit
Speaker 1: it in my body by then. How do you feel
Speaker 1: about the attack you shoot on Wesley? Now? I feel
Speaker 1: like that was a good retort, was there? Pretty strong?
Speaker 1: I was about to come back and say, also, people
Speaker 1: should know we taped that podcast at like three pm.
Speaker 1: But if you had the if you had the big
Speaker 1: sea in the in the old blood stream, I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta give you a pass. I didn't even oversleep.
Speaker 1: I just completely forgot. We had a podcast that accident,
Speaker 1: and one shadowy figure was really miffed about it. Really. Yes,
Speaker 1: he sat me down for a chat later in the week.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't a going out. There was no drinking. No,
Speaker 1: there was no drinking involved the first for the first
Speaker 1: time in my employment history, I missed something without drinking.
Speaker 1: Be Um. All right, So West is with us, and
Speaker 1: you know that is a great thing. Kevin Patras with us,
Speaker 1: making his annual Super Bowl podcast appearance. How you doing, Buddy,
Speaker 1: doing Swell doing Swell? Yeah? What have you've been takeaways?
Speaker 1: You've been following the Patriots still anything it does? It
Speaker 1: seem like it's them as it is for everyone else.
Speaker 1: It's that carcass has been picked over so many times,
Speaker 1: back to back Super Bowl, Wait, three times in four years.
Speaker 1: There's nothing new to talk about. Their loose I mean,
Speaker 1: Bill's cracking jokes, Tom's talking about first time he tried dip.
Speaker 1: But has anyone followed the angle of how Dante Sarneki
Speaker 1: has really helped that offensive line? Yes, plenty of people. Um,
Speaker 1: it's like every show you you make a joke about
Speaker 1: a different Mark Sessler feature from the previous It literally
Speaker 1: was something I wrote either two years, three or four
Speaker 1: years ago. Um, that was not an Assessler attacks al
Speaker 1: in markin No, I think it's also by the day.
Speaker 1: I wasn't the only person that came up with that idea. So,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, So we're going to big show today. We
Speaker 1: just missed the the the big trade of Alex Smith
Speaker 1: to the Redskins and what that means with Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: and all the other teams any quarterbacks. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about that, and then this is officially the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty two preview extravaganza, so we will really dig
Speaker 1: deep on the game, uh and make our picks officially
Speaker 1: and as annual tradition of course, our go get my
Speaker 1: lunch super Bowl props. Uh. So we'll we'll go around
Speaker 1: the room and make some predictions and and put some
Speaker 1: sandwiches on it. Get my lunch, your big old turd.
Speaker 1: I came straight from downtown Minneapolis to this hotel room
Speaker 1: because I was covering the Justin timber Lake press conference.
Speaker 1: Also at that press conference, Erica and Possey, who is
Speaker 1: the biggest Justin Timberlake fan I've ever met, and Erica
Speaker 1: as we know, it was a little bit crazy. She's
Speaker 1: loose Cannon, a shadowy league figure, asked her if she
Speaker 1: wanted to be backstage during all the lead up to
Speaker 1: the press conference. So Erica covertly recorded a message for
Speaker 1: me when she was in J T. S um airspace,
Speaker 1: and this is what it sounded like. So I am
Speaker 1: at the Hilton right now, and I am behind the
Speaker 1: scenes of his presser and he just walked in and
Speaker 1: he's wearing a long, badass coat. I am literally shaking,
Speaker 1: but I had to play it cool. And I just
Speaker 1: couldn't make eye contact with him because I got so nervous.
Speaker 1: But I looked down, but I was like really close
Speaker 1: to him. But I looked at him and then looked down.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm literally about to paint. But playing
Speaker 1: it cool. She doesn't know them freaking out. I am
Speaker 1: so chill right now sounds it. I guess it's like
Speaker 1: good to see. I mean, I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: good to see. But there's evidence that females can be
Speaker 1: full fledged stalkers too. It's not just the male gender. Um. So, okay,
Speaker 1: we got a lot to get to well, and we will.
Speaker 1: We're gonna save the news for the end of the show.
Speaker 1: West is up to you to remind me, Um or
Speaker 1: bring it up yourself. We are going to have a
Speaker 1: tweet up. We are our details to come. I tweeted
Speaker 1: out the fact that we are going to have this
Speaker 1: on Friday evening and I asked for bar recommendations, so
Speaker 1: I expect to hear back from people soon. Very good.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that at the end of the show.
Speaker 1: But let's before we get into the super Bowl. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the big news right now in the NFL,
Speaker 1: non super Bowl related, and it is Mondo news because
Speaker 1: Alex Smith was traded from the Kansas City Chiefs, which
Speaker 1: is a big movement itself because then of course clears
Speaker 1: the path for Patrick Mahomes their second year passer or
Speaker 1: will be a second year passer, and that also means
Speaker 1: connect the dots. I was able to connect the dots,
Speaker 1: by the way. Not everyone could do it, but Kark
Speaker 1: Cousins won't be back in Washington, and that is huge. West.
Speaker 1: You wrote a landing spots piece about where Cousins could
Speaker 1: land and this is not completely unique because it happens
Speaker 1: sometimes a quarterback that's young and or in his prime
Speaker 1: hits the open market, but it doesn't happen much, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big situation of the league. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's never been a situation like this, quite like this
Speaker 1: where the guy was franchise tag twice, holds all the leverage,
Speaker 1: is in the prime of his career, is in the
Speaker 1: top six statistically over the last three years and just
Speaker 1: about every major category, and until the Alex Smith trade,
Speaker 1: the team didn't have a young backup or any other
Speaker 1: option to go to go with. So it is a
Speaker 1: bit unprecedented. But I sort of see this as not
Speaker 1: just who Kirk Cousins is gonna pick, but which of
Speaker 1: the teams has that hunger and willingness to get into
Speaker 1: a bidding more for him. We know the Vikings need
Speaker 1: a quarterback, They've got some cheaper options. Uh, Are they
Speaker 1: willing to go to thirty million dollars a year on
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. I don't know about that, but I do
Speaker 1: think the Jets and Broncos are willing to go that far.
Speaker 1: Those are the logical teams to me, those two right
Speaker 1: off the bat, But a lot of these teams sneak up.
Speaker 1: People didn't really expect the Broncos to be in the
Speaker 1: mix initially for Peyton Manning. The forty Niners would wound
Speaker 1: up being in the mix for them. There haven't been
Speaker 1: guys like Kirk Cousins that have become available. The Cardinals
Speaker 1: are one team. I think it's going to be highly
Speaker 1: motivated UH to get a quarterback and could maybe pitch
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins to go there. Broncos of any team have
Speaker 1: had players come out of the woodwork starting three weeks
Speaker 1: ago saying we want Kirk Cousins on this team. You
Speaker 1: know by the way you you you share locker room
Speaker 1: with three other quarterbacks. They don't care at all. They
Speaker 1: keep saying, over and over Von Miller, everyone else, We've
Speaker 1: got to get this guy with us. C. J. Anderson
Speaker 1: was on NFL Network saying it yesterday, and Elway is
Speaker 1: the one guy that when it came to the Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning thing, the last biggest situation even close to this
Speaker 1: that he had, I thought his to shining moment as
Speaker 1: a GM, the gravitas to bring Manning to Denver. And
Speaker 1: I think if you're Kirk Cousins, you have to look
Speaker 1: at the Broncos and say, despite last season, you still
Speaker 1: have the defense in place there's still some there's enough
Speaker 1: around you on offense where it would be a good
Speaker 1: landing spot. I know you were talking about the Jets
Speaker 1: a little bit, Dan, that makes some sense. I think
Speaker 1: as a Jets and the Jets, for the third time
Speaker 1: in like five years, have been locked in at the
Speaker 1: number six pick, which is a weird spot in the strap.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean they could They couldn't still end up
Speaker 1: with one of the top passers in this class, but
Speaker 1: it's kind of a weird spot. So it's a situation
Speaker 1: where I don't view Kirk Cousins as a patch. I
Speaker 1: think he's a guy that could potentially be their quarterback
Speaker 1: or wherever he goes, be a quarterback that plays at
Speaker 1: a potentially high level for five to seven more years.
Speaker 1: So I feel like that's a real solution if you've
Speaker 1: got Kirk Cousins, and then the Jets, who have plenty
Speaker 1: of holes, can then use that six pick to take
Speaker 1: the best available player or trade down and collect some
Speaker 1: assets and go down that route. I think the Jets
Speaker 1: should obviously break out the war chest and make a
Speaker 1: real push for him, and other than the Browns, um
Speaker 1: no one else has more money in this race. Than
Speaker 1: the Jets, So I think that works. They almost all
Speaker 1: have enough. I mean, it's you kind of everyone has
Speaker 1: enough to make him the highest paid player in the league.
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's up to Cousins a little bit.
Speaker 1: Does is the only thing that matters maximizing your money
Speaker 1: that He's only no, I'm saying, is it, because if
Speaker 1: it is, he could get und million dollars guaranteed. It's
Speaker 1: come out and said the most important thing to him
Speaker 1: is the organization and stability and their commitment to him
Speaker 1: as the guy. And I totally believe him. I think
Speaker 1: if you look at if winning is most important, what
Speaker 1: team jumps out as the forefront, it's Minnesota Vikings to me,
Speaker 1: if they're willing to make that commitment and let the
Speaker 1: other three guys slide, this is the best team set up.
Speaker 1: This better than the Broncos set up to win. They
Speaker 1: have cheap day of cheap labor on the outside, cheap
Speaker 1: running back defense already set up the Broncos. They currently
Speaker 1: have no offensive coordinator, so that would seem to me
Speaker 1: to be an immense factor. Well, they they will have one,
Speaker 1: certainly by the time Kirk Cousins is availing could be
Speaker 1: a first time guy with no experience. It could be
Speaker 1: somebody who doesn't run kirk Cousins system, who knows his dad,
Speaker 1: and it's it'll probably be in a in a sense,
Speaker 1: it's almost like the money it'll matter. But he can
Speaker 1: say he can pick the right organization because the baseline
Speaker 1: is he's going to be the highest paid player in
Speaker 1: the league. And at no point, as in my mind,
Speaker 1: has they've really been a top five quarterbacks. So he's
Speaker 1: really a guy that I mean, he's gonna max out people.
Speaker 1: And we'll get into Alex Smith side of things. I'm
Speaker 1: sure people got all worked up about the Alex Smith contract.
Speaker 1: It's like Alex Smith probably got in fully guaranteed money.
Speaker 1: When we find out about it, maybe it's like a
Speaker 1: it's basically a two year, fifty million dollar deal something
Speaker 1: like that. Kirk Cousins might double that in terms of
Speaker 1: guaranteed money. Wouldn't surprise me. If he has a you know,
Speaker 1: a hundred million dollars fully guaranteed over the first four
Speaker 1: years of his deal, it's gonna reset what Drew Brees
Speaker 1: makes Aaron Rodgers, Matt Ryan, I've I've said on this
Speaker 1: podcast a long time the quarterbacks are dramatically underpaid compared
Speaker 1: to the rest of the NFL workforce, and I think Cousins,
Speaker 1: because of these tags, is going to help reshape that.
Speaker 1: I think in your Winners and Losers post, you nailed
Speaker 1: one of the losers. It's the Jaguars because what just
Speaker 1: happened with Blake Bortles in this surgery and the option thing.
Speaker 1: Had you plugged Kirk kirk Cousins, I think if you
Speaker 1: looked around, you want organizational stability, they have it. You've
Speaker 1: got a team ready to compete for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins plugged into the Jacksonville Jaguars would have made
Speaker 1: them one of the more fascinating teams in a long
Speaker 1: time in a f C. And it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And they had all the money to spend too, They
Speaker 1: had all the cap space they love to spend. And
Speaker 1: now Ian Rapp reports saying kind of they're planning on
Speaker 1: Bordles being the guy. That's yeah, then they can claim
Speaker 1: that that was their plan the whole time. But let's
Speaker 1: be fair. I mean, the coaching staff was working working
Speaker 1: around him the whole playoffs, and you can't is there
Speaker 1: no way they could find a way to make it
Speaker 1: work with Borders still involved with roster. There there's always
Speaker 1: a chance. No one's really reported that his wrist won't
Speaker 1: be healed by March mid March, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: Different surgeries take a different timeline, And if if he
Speaker 1: was healthy enough to pass a physical in mid March,
Speaker 1: theoretically they could just decide not to pick up his
Speaker 1: option and they could go after It's a money thing, too,
Speaker 1: couldn't they. They always find a way these teams. You
Speaker 1: even if you had Bortles and Cousins on the roster
Speaker 1: for one season, you're not making a long term commitment
Speaker 1: to portals. It's a weird situation. Just doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: it's going to happen to backload Cousins contracts so hard
Speaker 1: that it might kill you later on. I don't think
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have that much salary cap space as opposed
Speaker 1: to right now. I also think that the Redskins took
Speaker 1: way too much criticism. It felt like the conventional wisdom
Speaker 1: after this trade was like, oh, they got they got crushed.
Speaker 1: They just wiped the floor with the Redskins. And I
Speaker 1: looked at it and I saw the value that they
Speaker 1: gave up a third round pick and a really good
Speaker 1: young cornerback and Kendall Fuller, and I thought, well, that
Speaker 1: sounds about right. They're getting They're getting a good starting
Speaker 1: quarterback in Alex Smith. We said on this podcast, I said,
Speaker 1: I think they'll probably get about the same as that
Speaker 1: the Chiefs gave up for Alex Smith five years ago,
Speaker 1: which was two second round picks. That's essentially the value
Speaker 1: they gave up. And I think when you see the
Speaker 1: details in the contract, it will be a two year deal.
Speaker 1: There was two real franchise quarterbacks are at least solid
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks available this offseason. There was at least seven
Speaker 1: teams looking for quarterbacks, and the Redskins just made sure
Speaker 1: they got one of those two quarterbacks. It just wasn't
Speaker 1: because of very tedious twelve hours on Twitter, because everyone
Speaker 1: with their intense Kendall Fuller hot tics. I get it
Speaker 1: is a good player, but otherwise you have Kendall Fuller
Speaker 1: and you have Cult McCoy as your quarterback or your
Speaker 1: J Gruden, and you're that in battled front office and
Speaker 1: you and you risk your entire future on maybe drafting
Speaker 1: someone and you don't know if that's gonna work out.
Speaker 1: You get Alex Smith, you know what you're gonna get
Speaker 1: with Alex Smith. Everyone's there's that job security. You found
Speaker 1: a good order back and you've lost a good cornerback.
Speaker 1: I I for me, that's a fair trade off people
Speaker 1: who are going nuts in the opposite direction. The criticism
Speaker 1: is for what everything the Redskins did the past few
Speaker 1: years to get to this that's different, which but I
Speaker 1: think they did a nice job of getting out of
Speaker 1: that corner. The problem. The problem is he's set up
Speaker 1: to fail there because he's coming after Cousins, and I
Speaker 1: think the team, the defense, they have a lot of issues,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna and he's gonna end up getting blamed
Speaker 1: for it. I think, like, for instance, if Cousins goes
Speaker 1: to the Jets or a lot of other teams, If
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins went to the Jets and he just played
Speaker 1: about how Kirk Cousins plays like, I think eventually everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna hate Kirk Cousins because that's not going to be
Speaker 1: good enough to necessarily lift the Jets to some like
Speaker 1: higher level in general, and I think I think be
Speaker 1: the most underappreciated player in putball the last few years
Speaker 1: and with Alex Smith, in which he's shown improvement every
Speaker 1: single step along the way and has numbers passer rating
Speaker 1: and adjusting yours per attempt higher than Air and Rodgers.
Speaker 1: And here we're saying people with nobody will appreciate him
Speaker 1: with the Jet the Jets. Jets fans would love Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: All they want is someone competent. They really haven't had
Speaker 1: a competent player since bred Ars first half of the
Speaker 1: season and then Chad Pennington's like two thousand two season.
Speaker 1: It's been more or less garbage throwing Josh McCown last year,
Speaker 1: if you want to get too excited, or Fitzpatrick. But
Speaker 1: if you gave me a younger guy that you could
Speaker 1: build around, and then that they can actually start building
Speaker 1: towards something once they get the quarterback stabilize, which problem
Speaker 1: I guess I see these two quarterbacks as you you
Speaker 1: still need to have a lot of support in terms
Speaker 1: of the coaching staff and the roster. And that's you know,
Speaker 1: that's one reason why Kirk Cousins is Redskins have been
Speaker 1: very mediocre the last two years because the rest of
Speaker 1: the team around him, whether it's the defense or the
Speaker 1: offensive line, has struggled Alex Smith. People have hated over
Speaker 1: the years, but this year he had a great Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl season. They maximized his skills because I think the
Speaker 1: coaching and the rest of the team around him was
Speaker 1: so good. But my point to play Devil's advocate is
Speaker 1: the Redskin aren't better today than they were yesterday. They
Speaker 1: saved money, yes, and they got a good band aid.
Speaker 1: They got a brand band aid for two years, maybe three,
Speaker 1: but that's it. They have no where's the future quarterback?
Speaker 1: They're not gonna probably get them where they're sitting in
Speaker 1: the draft this year. I mean, would they have been
Speaker 1: better just going with something and just tanking and trying
Speaker 1: to get a high pick, not if j Gourd wants
Speaker 1: to keep his job. Just just in terms of like
Speaker 1: the Actcy department, band aid is a name brand. I
Speaker 1: was doubling down on name brand. So it's a name brand,
Speaker 1: name brand, Yes, exactly, the good brand, name brand, name brand.
Speaker 1: Watchdog action by you, thank you. What's to stop the
Speaker 1: Redskins from going the Eagles route where you invest in
Speaker 1: multiple quarterbacks in the same off offseason. You can still
Speaker 1: draft it like a Josh Allen or a Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 1: But do you trust this front office to get it round,
Speaker 1: because I don't. I don't trust the Redskins to make
Speaker 1: the right decisions to make Alex Smith look better. But
Speaker 1: I do expect Alex Smith to be in the exact
Speaker 1: same situation where he's quote unquote helping a young quarterback.
Speaker 1: Cause I would expect the Redskins the draft the quarterback
Speaker 1: this year. If not this year, the next, we can
Speaker 1: kill them only one. If they lose Kirk Cousins what
Speaker 1: they were gonna do and they don't get Alex Smith
Speaker 1: and then they go and they bust out on someone
Speaker 1: else in the draft, They're they're all gonna get fired,
Speaker 1: all right, So there you go. We'll be talking about
Speaker 1: the situation as it plays out. It's gonna be fun.
Speaker 1: Puts a lot of juice into free agency, obviously, and
Speaker 1: where how the dominoes fall um, But we gotta move on.
Speaker 1: Next up, I want to take a little bit of housekeeping.
Speaker 1: Then you get a chance to do at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the show, our TJ. A. Friday t G. I Fridays.
Speaker 1: Of course, there's a bar, a very workman like, efficient
Speaker 1: solid TJ. Friday's is on the grounds here at our
Speaker 1: hotel and we set the over under adjusted it UH
Speaker 1: to add Colleen, which I wasn't really a big big
Speaker 1: on it because I had a feeling she was never
Speaker 1: gonna be here again. But we we jumped it up
Speaker 1: to one oh seven and a half based on Colleen,
Speaker 1: and she'll never set foot in this place. She's can
Speaker 1: I hit her quota. So I have been tracking it,
Speaker 1: as I told you, Every drink has been tracked UM
Speaker 1: and were we might be in a little bit of trouble.
Speaker 1: We'll see. But we are sitting at an even fifty
Speaker 1: fifty drinks at Friday's heading into the weekend, so we
Speaker 1: have to get We have to drink more than double
Speaker 1: that um for the rest of the got third dual count?
Speaker 1: Do you got Thursday, Friday's, Saturday. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: the heart of we You speak up, Greg, You've you've
Speaker 1: essentially been on injured reserve during this quest. You haven't
Speaker 1: had You've had not one drink the entire it's been
Speaker 1: a little on the right side. I've pretty much yeah,
Speaker 1: I've pretty much cut out drinking more or less. You know,
Speaker 1: I've got other things to help me relax, what like
Speaker 1: what you know, what I loving family. Well you are.
Speaker 1: You are a much better person than the rest of us.
Speaker 1: Had to drink at dinner last night, we just did
Speaker 1: weren't at you know t g I Friday's. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: had dinner with the Sky Sports folks. That was very nice,
Speaker 1: very nice of Alex Mason, of course, Neil and everybody
Speaker 1: over there, and uh, we love our little overseas partnership.
Speaker 1: They picked up the bill too, so that was a
Speaker 1: massive thank you essential that they did that in the meal.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I I'm not sure that I got
Speaker 1: the full experience. Incredible salve over They would come around
Speaker 1: to the table and just like shave meat off onto
Speaker 1: your guys plates. I noticed that could not have been cheap.
Speaker 1: We're living like Genghis Khan for a night, but it
Speaker 1: really was had had an ancient feel to it. It
Speaker 1: feels like um in mad Men, which I'm rewatching. I've
Speaker 1: been watching it late at night in the Hotel Um
Speaker 1: season two, when Putnam, Powell and Low the UK firm
Speaker 1: bought out um Sterling Cooper. It feels like this type
Speaker 1: of power shift is happening in Sky might soon make
Speaker 1: a play just for us in general, and the NFL
Speaker 1: media is going to have to decide how they want
Speaker 1: to make it happen. You might be right, um all
Speaker 1: right now a word from our sponsors. Just for a man,
Speaker 1: and oh yeah we're men, we're dudes. Yeah, we like
Speaker 1: to hang out, We play hard, and we also work hard.
Speaker 1: Sometimes because of that stress, you start to go Greg
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Speaker 1: Just the man. One last thing before we get into
Speaker 1: the game preview. It's actually breaking news. M hmm. I
Speaker 1: went to a party last night, super Bowl party, and
Speaker 1: I woke up this morning with a realization that at
Speaker 1: this stage of my life, um effective, at the end
Speaker 1: of this weekend, I'm going to retire from super Bowl parts.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take some from I mean, this was
Speaker 1: sort of your go to this is the reason we
Speaker 1: bring you to super Bowl. Why would you suddenly one
Speaker 1: of the reasons. What's what would you? Why would you
Speaker 1: be deep six in the party scene? I just just
Speaker 1: felt like the right time. I think for every man,
Speaker 1: there comes a time when you realize that your numbers
Speaker 1: being called and I don't want to be the guy
Speaker 1: that hangs around too long. I'd rather get out before
Speaker 1: it gets ugly. So I'm I'm stepping I'm stepping away.
Speaker 1: Who else got a question? Was there a specific incident
Speaker 1: last night that led to this exactly what I was
Speaker 1: this epiphany? I can't I don't want to say that
Speaker 1: that there was a specific incident that has led to
Speaker 1: this decision, which means there was, but there there was
Speaker 1: something Henry who was about to ask if Henry was
Speaker 1: by your side when this incident happened. We might there's
Speaker 1: two a t N insider sources that may already know
Speaker 1: this story, Henry and I. Um, there was an incident.
Speaker 1: Colleen was with us as well, um, and I don't
Speaker 1: want to share the incident. Sometimes when you have great
Speaker 1: information that to keep it in because you don't want
Speaker 1: to hurt people. But yeah, it was the general there
Speaker 1: there was an incident at this party that was a
Speaker 1: reminder is like, why like this velvet rope? Why do
Speaker 1: I really even care whether I'm on the other side
Speaker 1: of this velvet rope. I don't want to be on
Speaker 1: the other side of the velvet rope. I like this
Speaker 1: side of the velvet rope. Um, And that's that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why. But yeah, there was an incident.
Speaker 1: I think let me ask you, do you feel it? You? Mark?
Speaker 1: I mean, just the follow up, like is this some
Speaker 1: sort of you know, Gregg's talked about evolving out of
Speaker 1: any sort of human vice. He's now reached sort of
Speaker 1: a man god like status and his human are called
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you Dan? Have you evolved in some way?
Speaker 1: You don't seek status out at this point? You don't
Speaker 1: care about the party scene. What's why do you not
Speaker 1: long to hang with whoever these people were that you were?
Speaker 1: Why did you go there in the first place and
Speaker 1: then decide not? For me? I think it's maturity. Definitely,
Speaker 1: something happened. We're going to get to the bottom. But
Speaker 1: the question why why was he even hanging on so long?
Speaker 1: This is an analysis? You got it. You have a question.
Speaker 1: You want to frame that in the form of a question. Okay, gret,
Speaker 1: why did you hang on as long as you did?
Speaker 1: A good question? Um. For a for a period of
Speaker 1: a few years for NFL media, I was tagged with
Speaker 1: the label of being the party beat guy. I think
Speaker 1: I created the label and and for a little bit
Speaker 1: there it was a good gig. But I think a
Speaker 1: bigger takeaway from me, beyond any specific incident, was every
Speaker 1: Super Bowl party is exactly the same, exactly so at
Speaker 1: a certain point it's like, Oh, I'm gonna write I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to these parties, then right about them, and
Speaker 1: then they were all the same. It was basically a
Speaker 1: Chris Westling hellscape whereas a lot of people loud music,
Speaker 1: an open bar that's it's impossible to get to, and
Speaker 1: there's some pretty ladies at these parties. Sure, but daddy's
Speaker 1: got a ring on, So what does that do for me? Ultimately,
Speaker 1: everybody's there just to be seen and increase their status
Speaker 1: level and get drunk for free. If you're at the
Speaker 1: right parties, you're not paying, but that comes with the cost.
Speaker 1: In a dark pre around the NFL time when I
Speaker 1: was coming to these Super Bowls, essentially, you know, by myself,
Speaker 1: I I hustled hard with you know, the producers that
Speaker 1: I was working with to try to go to these things.
Speaker 1: You're after you're the Madden party that there used to
Speaker 1: be a great Maxim party where they'd shuttle you out
Speaker 1: and you're in the middle of range and yeah, it
Speaker 1: took me about two or three years of that to
Speaker 1: realize what am I doing? I am the last person
Speaker 1: the end of most of these You're on you're on
Speaker 1: a quest almost with the party thing. But you get
Speaker 1: to the end of almost any one of these things
Speaker 1: and there's nothing but emptiness, And I think maybe you've
Speaker 1: hit the emptiness things. So you're not gonna just scale
Speaker 1: it back. It's a full reject of the entire concept
Speaker 1: you've moved to the hold different direct doesn't mean you
Speaker 1: can't have fun. Last one, Oh, lindsay, is it true
Speaker 1: that you're retiring from super Bowl parties because you are
Speaker 1: no longer receiving invitations to say? Man hey, hard questions?
Speaker 1: Very rarely. That is a part of it as well,
Speaker 1: Very rarely do you um get invitations if you're like
Speaker 1: a podcast host, if you're higher up, maybe people reach out.
Speaker 1: But also that was part of my duties of super
Speaker 1: Bowl week, was to basically pitch covering these parties, which
Speaker 1: costs a lot of money to get into if you're
Speaker 1: an out of towner. So no, I never was invited
Speaker 1: to them, but it was part of my work. Okay,
Speaker 1: last one, last one? Wait, okay, last one. In the
Speaker 1: realm of these working trip U celebrations in Galas, the
Speaker 1: opposite of the super Bowl party would be the less
Speaker 1: I'm working up to stay with you, the lesbian bar
Speaker 1: next of the Combine in Indianapolis that that we went to.
Speaker 1: Will you still be doing fun like little dive bars
Speaker 1: with Mark and I and Patra and sometimes Greg who
Speaker 1: won the Joan Osbon Award? Oh, we still be doing
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff? Is the Joan Osward Hornward go
Speaker 1: to the person that doesn't drink? It is that? It was?
Speaker 1: It was the award for the designated driver. It was
Speaker 1: the award for the person who when everyone had to
Speaker 1: guess what song this not this cover band was going
Speaker 1: to play over that night, somehow guessed that Joan Osborne
Speaker 1: what if God was one of us one song before
Speaker 1: they played it will Never be topped. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: All right, thanks guys, I gotta go answer the question.
Speaker 1: You know the answer, wes. I like, and I like
Speaker 1: small gatherings of people. I know perfect. I'm really excited
Speaker 1: about the tweet up. All right, all right, let's get
Speaker 1: into its Super Bowl fifty two preview. Ah, we're here
Speaker 1: the extravaganza, Patriots against Eagles. The people on the desert.
Speaker 1: Greg still believe the Patriots will be victors, but there
Speaker 1: may be less confident than they were last week. This time. Well,
Speaker 1: I think that reflects that America a lot of people
Speaker 1: are liking the Eagles as under ducks that they'd not
Speaker 1: maybe they'll win, or certainly that they'll keep it close.
Speaker 1: It's certain it because of the way the NFC Championship
Speaker 1: game played out. I think there's a lot of Eagles heat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think maybe a good way to get into
Speaker 1: this discussion, and we'll start with the scientists who are
Speaker 1: sharing a a tan leather couch, but it looks like
Speaker 1: it could be pleather. It does look pleather. It's kind
Speaker 1: of the type of couch that if you were a
Speaker 1: serial killer, you would purchase it because it would be
Speaker 1: easy to clean up like brain matter and blood and
Speaker 1: other types of Oh I thought you say replaced the
Speaker 1: pleather with like human skin. Sometimes you gotta put yourself
Speaker 1: in the head of a serial times sometimes you do. West,
Speaker 1: I mean the scientists, Greg and West. You guys have
Speaker 1: said in the last few shows that you think the Eagles,
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, take out the quarterback position,
Speaker 1: are the better team on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: Do you think not enough people are really giving the
Speaker 1: Eagles credit for being loaded? I do. I think they
Speaker 1: are the They've been the strongest team in the NFL
Speaker 1: all year, the most well balanced team, a very well
Speaker 1: coached team, mentally tough, no question. They have a better
Speaker 1: defense than the Patriots, and the offensive line is better
Speaker 1: than the Patriots offensive line. That said, the Patriots offense
Speaker 1: is better in large part because they have Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and Rob Gronkowski and Josh McDaniels. I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: complete team. What's the weakness of the Eagles. I mean,
Speaker 1: I would I guess I would throw that out right,
Speaker 1: So that's that's the that's a weakness. But they've covered
Speaker 1: up for very well with all the other strength. You know,
Speaker 1: someone It's been said before. Basically any NFL quarterback can
Speaker 1: hit passes if he's protected. I mean, and it's really
Speaker 1: not and and it's certainly if they're they're playing with
Speaker 1: a talented play caller with talented players around him. I
Speaker 1: think if Nick Foles is protected like he has been
Speaker 1: in the last two games, I I really don't think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be what wins or loses this game. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe Carson Wentz would have been what won this them
Speaker 1: this game, and you and you're certainly missing that. But
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna get in the way and
Speaker 1: what the Eagles do well, spread out, get quick passes,
Speaker 1: those RPOs. We always talk about, that's what it hurts
Speaker 1: the Patriots, and that's what they have trouble stopping. They
Speaker 1: were like fifth, I think fifth most yards on r
Speaker 1: PO defense this year, and you get getting the ball
Speaker 1: out of quick of Nick Foles's hand. I think that
Speaker 1: they can do some damage in the passing game, and
Speaker 1: I think Doug Peterson's gonna throw it fifty times, and
Speaker 1: I think that's the way to beat them. I think
Speaker 1: the point you just made a good one. And it's
Speaker 1: the same thing that that I remember thinking after the
Speaker 1: Falcons game was like when Troy Aikman put r P
Speaker 1: O and everyone's radar forever and it was like that
Speaker 1: got him come through, rolling into the flow of the game,
Speaker 1: Nick foulcany and he was able to make plays. Uh
Speaker 1: Nick falls excuse me? And um then I thought, oh, well,
Speaker 1: then Mike Zimmer and the Vikings, given a week to prepare,
Speaker 1: will take it away and we'll and and get Folds
Speaker 1: completely lost at sea. And then he had one of
Speaker 1: the best games of his life or the best game
Speaker 1: of his life. So to then assume then I know
Speaker 1: it's it's Belichick. But to assume, oh, well he now
Speaker 1: Belichick gets two weeks to to f forgot how to
Speaker 1: way to flammix this guy in this offense is now
Speaker 1: comfortable in maybe they just don't have the personnel the
Speaker 1: Patriots to stop it, and the stats backing up their
Speaker 1: struggles against RPO support that between This is the closest
Speaker 1: fac simile to what the Chiefs offense that ran early
Speaker 1: in the season that destroyed the Patriots defense that granted
Speaker 1: wasn't playing as well as they have at the end
Speaker 1: of the year, but this is the closest comparison we're
Speaker 1: going to see on the field. I think the Eagles
Speaker 1: offense is so interesting because if you're Belichick, you've made
Speaker 1: a bit of a cottage industry out of taking away
Speaker 1: the primary fet threat each week, no matter who it is,
Speaker 1: it's you know, you go back to the earliest Super
Speaker 1: Bowl they had against the Rims, where they went in
Speaker 1: saying we're gonna remove Marshall Folk from this game plan
Speaker 1: at the risk of Kurt Warner potentially blowing up through
Speaker 1: the air. You look at the Eagles. They don't have
Speaker 1: that one obvious star player to take away. They have
Speaker 1: a they kind of remind me a little bit of
Speaker 1: New England in the sense that they can spread the
Speaker 1: ball out to a lot of different people. They have
Speaker 1: multiple backs, and I I think for New England, you
Speaker 1: have to prevent Philly from doing what it did over
Speaker 1: the last two games. Last two playoff games, they had
Speaker 1: three long drives in the second half of both games
Speaker 1: where they shoot up the clock that kept the ball
Speaker 1: out of the hands of the Falcons, out of the
Speaker 1: hands of the Vikings. And if you can do that
Speaker 1: to New England and put a little pressure on Brady
Speaker 1: up the middle, which I know at this point has
Speaker 1: been beaten into a dead horse. We get it interior
Speaker 1: pressure from this deep line of the Eagles, but all
Speaker 1: that together you would have a chance to be in
Speaker 1: this game in the very end. I do think this
Speaker 1: game goes right down to the and that's that's what
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense allows as long drives. That's kind of you, Ben,
Speaker 1: but don't break give up field goals, not touchdowns, and
Speaker 1: and that's where you could end up with a game
Speaker 1: that doesn't have a ton of possessions and maybe isn't
Speaker 1: as high scoring as I've been predicting, just because the
Speaker 1: Eagles have the ball so long, and You're right, it's
Speaker 1: hard to know who exactly in theory that they're taking me.
Speaker 1: I think it'll be pretty tough to run on the Patriots,
Speaker 1: just because I think they're talented and generally they're a
Speaker 1: tough team to run against. I do look at Nelson
Speaker 1: Aghil as someone I think the Patriots are gonna have
Speaker 1: a hard time defending. Like, who who is on Nelson
Speaker 1: Agil in the slot? If it's Eric Rowe and he
Speaker 1: he just does not have the flexibility I think to
Speaker 1: cover him. But I'm not really sure who it is,
Speaker 1: because they do they do not move Gilmore or Butler.
Speaker 1: He suggested they might move to the slot in this
Speaker 1: game just because that might be the best matchup, even
Speaker 1: though he's been burned this year as well. I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy has Mark referenced, came up with the game
Speaker 1: plan to stop the Greatest Show on turf Ram came
Speaker 1: up with the game plan to stop Jim Kelly and
Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas. I don't know that we gotta think so
Speaker 1: hard about Nick Foles and Nelson Agilar here. That's fair.
Speaker 1: That's fair, I think, and it's true, and there's no
Speaker 1: reason you should ever sell Belichicks great in as short,
Speaker 1: but like everyone thought, the Vikings were gonna throttle Nick Foles,
Speaker 1: and that was and what he did. I picked the Eagles.
Speaker 1: I locked it up, but you guys didn't allow it
Speaker 1: double lock up. Don't think I forgot what to your point,
Speaker 1: people have been waiting for the Nick Foles implosion game
Speaker 1: and it hasn't happen. And we all love the Vikings
Speaker 1: defense and they figured that out. I guess what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't shock me if he played well again against
Speaker 1: the Patriot. I think he was going to play well.
Speaker 1: I the one takeaway from being like on the scene
Speaker 1: with them today and you know media night as well,
Speaker 1: that the Eagles are not some sort of naive group
Speaker 1: that has no idea what to do in this spot.
Speaker 1: They seem completely collected and calm as a team. And
Speaker 1: I think they're extremely well coached on offense. And I
Speaker 1: don't think the Nick Foles performance over the last two
Speaker 1: weeks is some roll of the dice fluke. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's extremely talented quarterback, but they've coached him and
Speaker 1: put him in the right system to succeed. Last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks I feel like every year we have this
Speaker 1: conversation near the end of the week, and not you specifically,
Speaker 1: but it's like it comes up this team. You could
Speaker 1: tell they're really comfortable and competents, Like aren't they always
Speaker 1: gonna seem that way? Every team seems confident, and then
Speaker 1: we seem to always talk about that is like a
Speaker 1: reason why potentially they're gonna play well. They're they're gonna
Speaker 1: look fine going into the game, and they're not gonna
Speaker 1: be panicker. I think. Let mean one counterpoint, when when
Speaker 1: the Broncos had at the heights of their offensive power
Speaker 1: going against the Seahawks team that had not been in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl before, and Seattle from Wednesday on said,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to Peyton Manning. We're completely confident, we're
Speaker 1: gonna blow them up. We're gonna make this really tough
Speaker 1: on Peyton man It's like, you can say all that
Speaker 1: and they seemed extremely competent, but then it absolutely they
Speaker 1: had a game plan, they believed in they and within
Speaker 1: ten minutes of that game starting, you knew it was correct.
Speaker 1: I think the Eagles are underrated for how they are
Speaker 1: a veteran team. This is not necessarily a young team. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: they haven't been to the Super Bowl, but these are
Speaker 1: guys who are are intelligent and they've been around the
Speaker 1: NFL for a long time, you know, Brandon Graham, Fletcher Cox, Alson,
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Tory Smith. It's like their entire offense by there's cohesion,
Speaker 1: and I guess it's a unique matchup and the Falcons
Speaker 1: were similar in some ways coaching, but they are a
Speaker 1: coaching staff that I trust can adjust during the game,
Speaker 1: both Jim Schwartz and Peterson. So it's gonna be kind
Speaker 1: of fascinating to see the two coaching staffs trying to adjust,
Speaker 1: and they have the players who are smart enough, like
Speaker 1: a Malcolm Jenkins on the Eagle side and then Devin
Speaker 1: mccordy on the Patriots side, who can help execute those
Speaker 1: sort of adjustments during the game. It's amazing to the
Speaker 1: extent that the most recent game always is an eclipse,
Speaker 1: which clouds out everything else that happened, and nobody talks
Speaker 1: about the fact that the four or five previous games
Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship Game, the Eagles had the worst
Speaker 1: offense in the NFL and the fewest big plays of
Speaker 1: any offense in the NFL. During that stretch. That's a factor.
Speaker 1: You can't just assume just because they blew out the Vikings,
Speaker 1: there this unstoppable juggernaut now that the Patriots are gonna
Speaker 1: struggle to guard. I I agree, but I think they're
Speaker 1: They were an effective offense against the Alkins. I really,
Speaker 1: I really do. And second half I do three field
Speaker 1: goal drives, a three thirty yards on eight drives, just
Speaker 1: the way that that get And like the Patriots, they
Speaker 1: can play different sorts of games. You're right, it's not
Speaker 1: an unbelievable it's offense. When Carrie Collins and the Giants
Speaker 1: blew out the Vikings in the NFC title game to
Speaker 1: go on and play a Ravens team with an excellent,
Speaker 1: you know, veteran cast on defense and the Giants did
Speaker 1: not look very good the next week at all. But
Speaker 1: I I don't. I also think, is there any chance
Speaker 1: it's not an argument for Nick Foles, the pure quarterback
Speaker 1: talents of Nick Foles that after weeks of coaching and
Speaker 1: weeks of being in the system they figure out how
Speaker 1: to use and that things have gotten a little better
Speaker 1: for him. It's like he I just don't think it
Speaker 1: was an utter fluke. What happened against the Rings. I mean,
Speaker 1: to me, the more fast, the more interesting matchup is
Speaker 1: when the Patriots have the ball, because I do think
Speaker 1: that the Eagles defensive line is even more talented than
Speaker 1: the Jaguars team they just played. It's a really great defense.
Speaker 1: But the logic that the Eagles have the most talented
Speaker 1: roster and then the Patriots are kind of Brady and Belichick,
Speaker 1: I get that, But the Patriots have a very talented roster.
Speaker 1: I mean, Brandon Cooks about as talented as any wide
Speaker 1: receiver they've had since Randy Moss. He's a great player.
Speaker 1: Hogan and man Amndla are talented, Gronk is talented, Brady
Speaker 1: and and just the four or three running backs that
Speaker 1: they can use in different ways. The way the Patriots
Speaker 1: can win this game is by getting up early and
Speaker 1: continuing to throw. And and it wouldn't it wouldn't shock
Speaker 1: me if Tom Brady. Of course, it wouldn't shock me
Speaker 1: if Tom Brady plays outstanding and the Eagles just cannot
Speaker 1: keep up. And I think this is a game where
Speaker 1: you're gonna see Dion Lewis and James White catching the
Speaker 1: ball out of the backfield against Eagles linebackers in space,
Speaker 1: and I think that's where that Tom Brady is gonna
Speaker 1: dice them up that way. Could have a huge game
Speaker 1: here too. I mean, wait, they this Eagles defense, Beyond
Speaker 1: the front seven, you can make plays against the secondary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they are one of the worst teams. I believe they
Speaker 1: rank last in defending yards after the catch, So you
Speaker 1: might see a lot of short, quick crossing routes, slants,
Speaker 1: bubble screens, that kind of thing. And you would expect
Speaker 1: a lot of short drops for Brady in this game,
Speaker 1: just because they're not going to be overly confident. I
Speaker 1: think that they can protect them. That reminds me of
Speaker 1: what the Patriots did to the Titans. Once they started
Speaker 1: getting rolling, they just started carving them up underneath, and
Speaker 1: it was just there was it was just one cut
Speaker 1: after another until it was it's tough for you to watch.
Speaker 1: I want to be as far away from Dan in
Speaker 1: the press box as possible. That's mine, because you know
Speaker 1: what you've got watched the last couple of years were Dan.
Speaker 1: It almost almost like in a dark magic spell that
Speaker 1: you put on them, was like eighty feet away from us.
Speaker 1: Like every during every one of these Patriots Super Bowl
Speaker 1: this time, you're gonna be sitting You're gonna have you
Speaker 1: sit in his lap that I'm sitting next to you. Uh,
Speaker 1: I know it's kind of a house money game because
Speaker 1: it's like, obviously the Patriots the favorites, gonna win the game,
Speaker 1: and the Eagles win house money for you. I mean,
Speaker 1: you could certainly argue it's a house money game for Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Patriots with the five Super Bowls they've already won.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they don't look at it. Hashtag not done, Greg,
Speaker 1: not done, not done. I can't wait until we hear
Speaker 1: that on the Patriots square or whatever they call it.
Speaker 1: There is no dash. That's the worst chance in the Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love Bill, but what else? I call him? What else? Patrick?
Speaker 1: What are you? What are you seeing in this game
Speaker 1: that maybe could um, you know, decisively decide what happens,
Speaker 1: decisively decide. I don't know. I don't think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be decisive. I don't think I don't think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be decisive. I think I think the Eagles have a
Speaker 1: good enough defense they're going to keep it close. M
Speaker 1: that's it. That's all I'm gonna say that all the
Speaker 1: field of a team, they're about to get routed on
Speaker 1: that side of the ball. But yeah, it's I find
Speaker 1: it one of the more mysterious super Bowl to walk
Speaker 1: into with like a real clear picture of what's going
Speaker 1: to happen. I just do because I think the Eagles.
Speaker 1: We've thought we had the Eagles figured out for a
Speaker 1: month straight and they've completely baffled us over the last
Speaker 1: fourteen days. I mean, I know, you locked up the
Speaker 1: last game, but I locked them up the week before.
Speaker 1: I didn't do that with any confidence that I know that.
Speaker 1: The way that they beat the Vikings makes you feel
Speaker 1: like they can pull it off because that's them at
Speaker 1: full flight without Carson Wentz and if they play with
Speaker 1: that at that type of level, just like the Vikings
Speaker 1: got blown out. I'm not saying the Patriots will ever
Speaker 1: get blown out in the Super Bowl, but that I
Speaker 1: think that they need to do that. Nick Foles needs
Speaker 1: to be close to that guy, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: the fact that what did he go four for five
Speaker 1: on passes more than twenty yards in the air and
Speaker 1: the only one of which was on the run. That
Speaker 1: was the moment it was like, all right, Nick, he
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be that way. And to West's point.
Speaker 1: The four games before that he completed one such pass
Speaker 1: of twenty yards of the air. So it was a
Speaker 1: different guy. If you want to talk yourself into the Eagles,
Speaker 1: like keeping the magic going, you know, it's a flip
Speaker 1: of the coin, and you're either going to get the
Speaker 1: guy from the fourth first four weeks or you're gonna
Speaker 1: get the NFC title game guy. And that to me
Speaker 1: is the game. It's really it's I guess a little
Speaker 1: like you know, laying to put it all on the quarterback.
Speaker 1: But if fall good Falls shows up, it's not flip though.
Speaker 1: It's not one or the like there's you got four
Speaker 1: games of evidence on one side to one to the other.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and Falls with the Eagles is different than
Speaker 1: you know, you can throw out his time with the Rams.
Speaker 1: It's because ultimately that wasn't it was a was a
Speaker 1: it was a terrible system. And do we have to
Speaker 1: throw out his previous Eagles career in which Chip Kelly
Speaker 1: reached the conclusion that this guy was not my guy now?
Speaker 1: But I think that showed that he can have great games.
Speaker 1: I mean, he is still the all time record holder
Speaker 1: for touchdowns in the game, and I think he's showed
Speaker 1: he can have great games if he's managed correctly. It
Speaker 1: also shows that he's a mechanical quarterback with accuracy issues.
Speaker 1: In poor fourth you're ramping up again. You're like, he
Speaker 1: sing that, but one thing about him, it's like it's
Speaker 1: one thing. If it's oh, his his negative game with
Speaker 1: with Philadelphia over the last one, he's gonna throw four
Speaker 1: picks and bury you. You're gonna be done by half
Speaker 1: because he can't keep the ball out of the opponent's hands.
Speaker 1: He's not turning the ball over and and it's which
Speaker 1: you know, we were talking going into the playoffs that
Speaker 1: Tom Brady wasn't playing that well, so candid Eagles defense,
Speaker 1: that's not the case right now, No, it's not. That's
Speaker 1: what I mean is that things can change very quickly.
Speaker 1: And can the Eagles defense do some of the some
Speaker 1: of the things that say the Dolphins defense did to help,
Speaker 1: uh disrupt Tom Brady? You know they they're not gonna
Speaker 1: be able to take Rob Gronkowski out of the game
Speaker 1: like the Dolphins had the fortune of, but can they
Speaker 1: do some of the things to disrupt them? And it's
Speaker 1: just one game, And I think that's why you you
Speaker 1: you said you have less confidence than ever. I think
Speaker 1: I have less confidence than ever because I've given up
Speaker 1: even the the slight premise that there's any way to
Speaker 1: know anything ahead of time, that we have any predictive
Speaker 1: I really they mean it, though, And it's partly because
Speaker 1: it is one game. It's not an award for who
Speaker 1: has the best season. It's not like a you know,
Speaker 1: end of the season. This is who deserves it. It's
Speaker 1: just one game, and and there's so many different factors,
Speaker 1: including the game plan. It's like if the Panthers and Broncos,
Speaker 1: for instance, played ten different times, I don't know that
Speaker 1: the Panthers wouldn't have won some of those Super Bowls,
Speaker 1: But on that day, the Broncos were decisively better. And
Speaker 1: at least I think with these teams, you can look
Speaker 1: at them and say on any day that one of
Speaker 1: them could be decisively But last year's game completely blows
Speaker 1: up what I'm about to say. But in that Panthers
Speaker 1: Broncos game, in that Seahawks Broncos game, the first ten
Speaker 1: minutes of those Super Bowls, and I think the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl is a bit of a different atmosphere than a
Speaker 1: Week eight in it Lands or something. That those games
Speaker 1: were decided so quickly by what happened out of the
Speaker 1: gate and and everything that you planned for for two
Speaker 1: weeks if you were Carolina was blown up. It was
Speaker 1: utterly blown up. The one thing I look at that
Speaker 1: they're different, and I almost say if even if everyone says, oh,
Speaker 1: the Eagles need to get up on New England and
Speaker 1: make a statement early in the game New England, it's
Speaker 1: still fresh in our minds. It feels like yesterday. We
Speaker 1: were just at the Super Bowl last year. They have
Speaker 1: proof with the same roster that no deficit can keep
Speaker 1: them down. The experience does come into that. Well, no
Speaker 1: matter what if you're Philadelphia, you have not been in
Speaker 1: this game situation with any of these players. New England
Speaker 1: has done it over and over. This is just part
Speaker 1: of their buy rothm part of every season for them.
Speaker 1: There is a top knockout to me that the Eagles
Speaker 1: situation here is good, too great. And then it's the
Speaker 1: it's the old model and we've seen the model at
Speaker 1: play in the past. How do you beat the Patriots
Speaker 1: on the stage or in the playoffs, as you gotta
Speaker 1: get to Brady and rattle them. The Eagles have a
Speaker 1: team that's built to do that according to PFF, they
Speaker 1: have seven guys with twenty plus pressures in the season.
Speaker 1: They have so many guys that can come after Brady
Speaker 1: and you gotta get after you gotta you gotta beat
Speaker 1: his ass. That's how you beat the Patriots for sixty minutes,
Speaker 1: right and we and that's that's a that's a great point.
Speaker 1: Let's because that's part of the what the Patriots have built.
Speaker 1: And a crazy stat is that if they win on Sunday,
Speaker 1: they have the Belichick Brady, Pats have twenty eight playoff wins.
Speaker 1: Chuck Noll and West you're a student of the game,
Speaker 1: Chuck Noll and Terry Bradshaw. Some people say the best
Speaker 1: dynasty ever. They have fourteen in their whole time. They're
Speaker 1: gonna they're about to double up the Patriots and all
Speaker 1: those wins for all this time has built up a
Speaker 1: mystique around the Patriots. I think that's part of the
Speaker 1: reason they've come back in these games. These teams that
Speaker 1: come close, sometimes the moment gets them and the Pats
Speaker 1: they don't strike at the moment. This latter dynasty that
Speaker 1: they have the last five years, they've come back from
Speaker 1: double digit second half deficits in the playoffs four times,
Speaker 1: which is double any franchise in history for the playoffs
Speaker 1: and Brady's numbers. I calculated this. In the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: and overtime of those four games, he has one rating,
Speaker 1: and it's insane. The Eagles are particularly well situated because
Speaker 1: you mentioned seven players with twenty pressures. They're like the
Speaker 1: great advertisement for pressures matter more than sacks. And because
Speaker 1: they have so many different guys, they're coming in and out.
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox and Brandon Graham are so fresh from not
Speaker 1: playing that much this year, and Chris Long has been
Speaker 1: playing out of his mind, and yet you only have
Speaker 1: to play him twenty five snaps, so he's able to
Speaker 1: just use all the energy he can possibly use on
Speaker 1: those twenty five STAPs and theoretically keep that pressure up
Speaker 1: for four quarters. Feel like we go into every big
Speaker 1: Patriots game every time and say, here's how you beat
Speaker 1: New England. You get to Tom Brady, you pressure him
Speaker 1: from wire to wire, and it happens what once a year,
Speaker 1: maybe once every two seasons, where he's beaten up the
Speaker 1: entire game. I can't even think you go to that.
Speaker 1: When they lost the second time to the Giants, he
Speaker 1: was injured at the end of that game because they
Speaker 1: put a hurt on him for four quarters. But that
Speaker 1: Broncos game, he took more hits than I've ever seen
Speaker 1: any quarterback and they almost and and in all of
Speaker 1: these though, the defense always gets forgotten, and Matt Patricia
Speaker 1: and Devin mccordy as the leader of that defense who
Speaker 1: I'm writing about, uh this week, they are just as
Speaker 1: big a part in those comebacks because they're getting stops
Speaker 1: against the Falcons in the fourth quarter, against the Jaguars
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, And it's because they do such
Speaker 1: an incredible job adjusting during the game. And one of
Speaker 1: the things that you people aren't seeing this week, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I just want to throw that in. Uh.
Speaker 1: They all talk about mccority just with such reverence that
Speaker 1: so many of the things he does doesn't show up
Speaker 1: in it. More than anything, it's that split second before
Speaker 1: the ball is snap, reacting to all the motions and
Speaker 1: all the adjustments, telling everyone on the field where to
Speaker 1: be and intuitively knowing exactly where he needs to be
Speaker 1: to sort of prevent those big plays and especially kind
Speaker 1: of adjust to what the other teams doing. I heard
Speaker 1: you asked Belichick a question during yesterday's press conference with that,
Speaker 1: I was I was in the hotel room during that.
Speaker 1: I thought, well, that's Greg's voice talking to Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: This is cool, and you got a long answer out
Speaker 1: of Belichick. I think it was a question. It was
Speaker 1: about mccordy. I wanted from my peace. If you're Belichick, though,
Speaker 1: when you get a pure football question, you're like, good,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna answer this for four minutes because it's going
Speaker 1: to knock out the guy being like, do this nonsensical thing.
Speaker 1: You know, It's like he liked that, Yeah, and he
Speaker 1: and he does love him. I mean he said he's
Speaker 1: he's never been prouder to have coached anyone than than Devon.
Speaker 1: All Right, it's time to pick the game, guys. Whoa,
Speaker 1: it is time. Patrick. Let us going, and someone's gotta
Speaker 1: give me an MVP and the m v P y
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna start, actually hold on the MVP
Speaker 1: might impact sandwiches, just ok. In the score, I'm taking
Speaker 1: the Patriot. I wanted to take the Eagles, but I
Speaker 1: just can't do it. I just don't trust Nick Foles.
Speaker 1: Couldn't do it? All right, Well I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: look at you less as a man, Patra, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a fair pick Mark Europe, and I want everyone
Speaker 1: let's plug in now on the lock situation. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: it's real right now, it's like an autolock. It's an
Speaker 1: autolock scenario. Mark has a one game lead going into
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Sunday, Dan and Greg Bowl ten and ten,
Speaker 1: West seven and six. Well technically eleven and ten, but
Speaker 1: you decided that the double lock last week didn't count.
Speaker 1: But the listeners remember that I got the double luck.
Speaker 1: It's pretty much Mark, bring it too well. I would
Speaker 1: have I would have lost that Vikings lock, so I
Speaker 1: I this was kind of decided. But now that you
Speaker 1: won the gate Lay game, you you're bringing it. No,
Speaker 1: I just haven't been on I haven't been on the
Speaker 1: show since anyway. Eleven and N ten and ten, West
Speaker 1: seven and six, Mark, when you winning the trophy, is yours?
Speaker 1: Any trophy update By the way, lindsay he already won
Speaker 1: because because we're gonna have the same picks. I I
Speaker 1: feel like the lock thing for me, Like I picked
Speaker 1: the Eagles a couple of weeks ago, when everyone thought
Speaker 1: again that against the Falcons that was nuts and huh,
Speaker 1: people thought that was nuts to pick the Eagles over
Speaker 1: the Falcons. I'm not saying, well, we had a lock off.
Speaker 1: At least last week I picked I got. I picked
Speaker 1: the jag Two weeks ago, I picked the Jaguars over
Speaker 1: the Patriots. I mean, I'm giving chances over and over
Speaker 1: for field climback, and so it's like, oh, now, Mark,
Speaker 1: just plenty talking about West the Eagles too in that game.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that you've done. Settle down, Betty, Listen,
Speaker 1: here's the thing. I just I can't pick the Eagles
Speaker 1: to win this thing. I trust the Patriots too much.
Speaker 1: We've seen this with our own eyes over and over.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a fascinating game one Patriots. Mark,
Speaker 1: you've been through the gauntlet all season for this trophy.
Speaker 1: You could absolutely look in the mirror and make that pick.
Speaker 1: I I think it's gonna be. I think it's I
Speaker 1: don't think if they're gonna romp them at all, I'm
Speaker 1: going New England. But I don't think it's I honestly
Speaker 1: think that that I could be the one getting it wrong.
Speaker 1: If you wanted to jump out and pick the Eagles, Breg,
Speaker 1: that might help you out well, because I think Greg
Speaker 1: would beat me if he picked the Eagles, and the
Speaker 1: Eagles one that into the lock it up. Everything tells
Speaker 1: me that the Patriots should win this game, and potentially
Speaker 1: win it easily. But that feels like there's a little
Speaker 1: magic here in Minnesota. I feel the cold that has
Speaker 1: come in and it chills. It chills your bones, but
Speaker 1: it also makes you realize it's Super Bowl time. And
Speaker 1: I think the people in that building, people in that
Speaker 1: hotel room, in those rooms in Philly, the Philly team
Speaker 1: I'm getting there, they believe and they are built to
Speaker 1: beat this team. And I believe Nicholes is one more
Speaker 1: magic game in him. I believe it's one of those
Speaker 1: stories of storybooks, tales about a guy that came out
Speaker 1: of nowhere. I think he has a passer rating of
Speaker 1: eight point three in this game, and that's what they need.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna going to change the world. He's gonna
Speaker 1: make a couple of plays. He's like, Brian, Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: gonna make a couple of plays. And then yeah, like
Speaker 1: I said, all those guys are gonna go eat. They're
Speaker 1: gonna go after Brady, and this time they're going to
Speaker 1: learn from the mistakes of other teams. They're gonna finish
Speaker 1: this game. And I think it's eagles first Super Bowl
Speaker 1: title ever. Lock it up one toe, it's a lock off, baby,
Speaker 1: But if if he had picked the Eagles, you'd take
Speaker 1: the Patriots, right, don't only worry about your locks and
Speaker 1: like how you put me seconds that you can strategize
Speaker 1: off of. But by the way, if you'd like to tie,
Speaker 1: it goes to our lockoffs and you've been buried in.
Speaker 1: And if people like, if people like Variety, just watch
Speaker 1: Friday's video show. I think it airs at six pm
Speaker 1: Pacific or Eastern because Dan picks the Patriots to win
Speaker 1: in that game. So like we're covering and it was
Speaker 1: all part of my ruse. Yeah, I think, didn't we
Speaker 1: pick this game last show? I thought I did at something,
Speaker 1: But yeah, I picked you seem like plus here by
Speaker 1: this segment right now, I've I've picked the Patriots every
Speaker 1: show we've ever done, So of course I'm picking the Patriots.
Speaker 1: By the way, the video show air that six Eastern time.
Speaker 1: You're just mad because now there's no way you can tie.
Speaker 1: No I knew that. I mean because he picked the
Speaker 1: Patriots already. You and I are, Hey, the only I.
Speaker 1: I mean, it'll be a small consolation. You know that
Speaker 1: the if I that I don't win the locks, that
Speaker 1: the Patriots win the Super Bowl. So I think I
Speaker 1: think if should they win and you are, you're missing something, Mark.
Speaker 1: It was never established before the season started a lockoff
Speaker 1: was a tiebreaker. I mean, it's so obvious Dan that
Speaker 1: when we get into this that you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: justify and go through all the springing route. You lost
Speaker 1: multiple lockoffs to me, but it's gonna end up in
Speaker 1: a tie. I don't even care. We can have it
Speaker 1: be a tie. Then you can be tied. Dan, let
Speaker 1: the trophy. You can have a little piece of the
Speaker 1: trophy to put on your fireplace at your house. Are
Speaker 1: you angry? No? But I just think it's like, it's
Speaker 1: so obvious that this was going to come down to Dan.
Speaker 1: Dan will win this somehow. Up. You're giving me a
Speaker 1: lot of credit right now, Mark, alright West Ever, ever
Speaker 1: since the double lock off was just decided to be
Speaker 1: ruled out despite a three to one vote, I've been
Speaker 1: playing under protests. So so there we go. I think
Speaker 1: you guys need to come up with a tiebreaker scenario
Speaker 1: before we get to Sunday, you can't have a tie, Well,
Speaker 1: how about the game's double I thought that as a scenario,
Speaker 1: but still allow for a tiebreaker tie one in it
Speaker 1: that would settle it. Well, we've just established that we
Speaker 1: don't make rules in the middle of the seasonside just
Speaker 1: going along with it. West your choice. Well, in contrast
Speaker 1: to your analysis, I I see the Eagles first fifty
Speaker 1: two player roster as clearly superior to the Patriots. But
Speaker 1: what you people don't realize is Tom Brady age forty.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady will enter this game with the most confident
Speaker 1: of any player, any figure in Super Bowl history. He's
Speaker 1: seen it all for eighteen years. He is obsessively prepared.
Speaker 1: He is mentally tougher than any player who's ever been
Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. Right now, you cannot you cannot
Speaker 1: show him anything he hasn't seen. And the goal of
Speaker 1: every athlete ever is to keep your physical skills long
Speaker 1: enough to where you're you're at peak mental capacity and
Speaker 1: experience in order to maximize those skills. That's where he
Speaker 1: is right now. As John Malkovich would say, not one
Speaker 1: goliathe You are fighting to Goliath, and I make Gronka
Speaker 1: Goliath to you're fighting three goliaths, and the Eagles can
Speaker 1: be fifty two fifty two man roster better, but they're
Speaker 1: not better at quarterback. And I will never doubt Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: So I've got lock it up, Patriots seven. There you go.
Speaker 1: We all think it's a close game, all right, very exciting,
Speaker 1: very exciting, And now it's time, as we do every
Speaker 1: year per tradition, go get my launch. You're tired. We're
Speaker 1: gonna go around and make two two props each, two
Speaker 1: props each, and then we'll check back after the game.
Speaker 1: The only guideline is it can't be something that hangs
Speaker 1: in the air beyond the game. On Sunday night after
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, these will all be decided definitively. Uh
Speaker 1: so that's where we're gonna go. Mark. Actually, oh wait,
Speaker 1: this was Dan. Shockingly, it looks like a Mark. You
Speaker 1: can't have one where we'll not have an official White
Speaker 1: House to visit. I came so close that it took
Speaker 1: too long, because if the Falcons would have just closed
Speaker 1: out there lead they were going. They were not going
Speaker 1: to the White House. But the Pats might be the
Speaker 1: only team that does. So I'm not going to go
Speaker 1: down that road again. All right, Patrick, get us going
Speaker 1: your first prop? All right? Facing the Philadelphia Eagles number
Speaker 1: one rush defense, Dion Lewis will have more rushing yards
Speaker 1: than both Lagara, Blunt and Ji combined, not combined, then
Speaker 1: either of them. Then you'll have the most rushing yards
Speaker 1: in the game. I mean, I'll take you doesn't like
Speaker 1: our Blunt like run for six yards. Every Super Bowl
Speaker 1: he plays in, they put him on ice and go
Speaker 1: with the receiving down. It was a big fumbo last year.
Speaker 1: Definitely got the Bowls rushing yards, rushing yard. I'll check
Speaker 1: you up. It's going against the number one rush defensive
Speaker 1: Blunt or who both of the Eagles. Boy, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: not take you up on it, just because Dion Lewis
Speaker 1: is the favorite of those three to get the most
Speaker 1: snaps in my mind, and the most rushing attempts. So
Speaker 1: I would give him a little bit of an edge.
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys split it up. Good one. This
Speaker 1: is a good one because I believe Dion Lewis is
Speaker 1: due for a big game. I love the way he's
Speaker 1: been playing. He didn't do as much versus Jacksonville. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they really shut them down, but definitely a gi E
Speaker 1: and Blunt have the better matchup. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: take you up on it. I kind of see Dean
Speaker 1: Lewis having a big game. I will take you up
Speaker 1: on it. I think Dean Lewis will have a good game,
Speaker 1: but it would be like more of the multi purpose
Speaker 1: variety could approach a hundred total yards would be my guess.
Speaker 1: But a giant maybe breaks off one and he approaches
Speaker 1: a hundred. Will see good one though, because you lured
Speaker 1: me in a little bit. Yeah, good job, Mark you up. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's see here, I got a bunch. Okay, only four
Speaker 1: players in NFL history have put up a hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty plus yards receiving in the Super Bowl. Chris Hogan
Speaker 1: will become the fifth. I will take He's done that
Speaker 1: once in his career. I'm fine with it. I'm just
Speaker 1: kind of have a feeling who's gonna have a big game.
Speaker 1: I will take you on that. Mark famously does not
Speaker 1: like sandwiches, loves to give him away. I'll take you
Speaker 1: up on that. Uh, it's not certainly Hogan could have
Speaker 1: a breakout game. Yeah, have two big players that I
Speaker 1: mean hasn't been the same real it though, since he
Speaker 1: got hurt. Now he hasn't done too much, but I
Speaker 1: like how I think the one thing New England does
Speaker 1: is like, oh, we haven't really heard a lot from
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan, and so we'll probably hear from everyone else.
Speaker 1: And then it's like they always seem to unwrapped in
Speaker 1: the biggest stage. They have one player blow up. That's
Speaker 1: why I love That's what everyone thinks it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: That's why I love Mark because he could have thrown
Speaker 1: out a hundred and twenty five yards and we all
Speaker 1: would have taken up that. But he's just like, why,
Speaker 1: I have a terrible record, but I like to shoot
Speaker 1: for the skies with these things. Um, all right, I'm up.
Speaker 1: I got Tom Brady a Super Bowl m v P.
Speaker 1: You guys got the field, but you picked the Eagles
Speaker 1: to win. This is totally different. Who's the most likely
Speaker 1: guy to win MVP. It's probably Tom Brady. So giving
Speaker 1: you guys the field, Well, Greg, you've said that none
Speaker 1: of this analysis means anything. We can't possibly know anything,
Speaker 1: so Dan's just getting in that that's true. Well, I like,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, even though it's sort of not logical,
Speaker 1: I like all my picks to just be consistent within
Speaker 1: the show. So I picked the Patriots to win the game,
Speaker 1: so then I would pick Tom Brady to win the
Speaker 1: m v P. And I want you up, don't lord
Speaker 1: your philosophy over down. I'm saying, my, that's my I'm
Speaker 1: explaining why I'm not taking up the field, which I
Speaker 1: usually love. I'm not taking you either. I'll take all right.
Speaker 1: I'll take a lot of guys the fields to play.
Speaker 1: It's always the play. This is like this would be
Speaker 1: like me betting that Michael Jordan isn't going to be
Speaker 1: the m v P versus the Jazz And I'm taking
Speaker 1: Brady's fair enough. Alright, So I got one sangwich online,
Speaker 1: so we're we're one on one right now. I like that.
Speaker 1: That's good. Alright, you're really covered now either way Patrick loses,
Speaker 1: he has to make a sandwich in his apartment and
Speaker 1: send it to you air mail. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: nasty Nick Foles throwing for nickname is that new I
Speaker 1: just made it up. Good. One over. He's throwing for
Speaker 1: over three hundred yards against the New England Patriots. I
Speaker 1: will take you on the over three over. I'll take
Speaker 1: you on it. People not in the room right now.
Speaker 1: He's throwing right handed and left I I'm not going
Speaker 1: to I think he's gonna I think he's gonna gate yards.
Speaker 1: I just don't think they're gonna score. I mean the
Speaker 1: other game of his life game and he only threw
Speaker 1: three in that game. More likely that we've seen that
Speaker 1: Nate Sudfield in this game than Nick Foles stores for three.
Speaker 1: You know. Part of that part of my thinking is
Speaker 1: is you know there's multiple routes. The three hundred might
Speaker 1: not be the best news for the Eagles of e
Speaker 1: throws from field by benching. Is that what you're suggesting
Speaker 1: anyway produces this could be a blake portals garbage type situation.
Speaker 1: How many Nick Foles have in the last four years,
Speaker 1: Like the Nick Foles and his like great grandfather did
Speaker 1: something to the Wesleyan family like three generations. Again, they
Speaker 1: showed me the game tape up. As everyone knows, one
Speaker 1: of the most amazing stats in the Belichick Brady era
Speaker 1: is that in seven Super Bowls they have never scored
Speaker 1: in the first quarter, like not even a field goal.
Speaker 1: The Patriots will score a touchdown in the first quarter
Speaker 1: of this game. There, that's a shocking stet. I'll take
Speaker 1: you on that because in these Super Bowls a lot
Speaker 1: of times, you know, they feel each other out for
Speaker 1: a little bit. And the Patriots in general this playoff run,
Speaker 1: have they scored in the first quarter? Yet they scored
Speaker 1: a field goal on the opening drive against the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: I'll take you on it. I'm gonna take you as well,
Speaker 1: because the Patriots like to to fer, so they might
Speaker 1: not get the ball first. I'm gonna play this game
Speaker 1: by what I'm rooting for, so I am not going
Speaker 1: to take you up on it, because I want them
Speaker 1: to score a touchdown against that. Almost every one of
Speaker 1: these outside of Brady m v P. It's a good policy. Alright,
Speaker 1: one more round, and just so everyone knows, remember go
Speaker 1: get my lunch dot org, run by the great Nick
Speaker 1: nick for tier not only has tracking these props, but
Speaker 1: also all time props. There's also a soundboard on there.
Speaker 1: Really well done, uh Nick Nicks the man. So you
Speaker 1: gotta go get my lunch dot Org. All right, last
Speaker 1: time we'll get Patrick's got a it on his face,
Speaker 1: he's got something cooking. I think I'm only going to
Speaker 1: get one, and I better get one. Dan hanss a
Speaker 1: t N Insider will not break any news in the
Speaker 1: locker room after the Super Bowl. WHOA, that's a challenge, sir, Yeah,
Speaker 1: hold on, who is he calling it breaking news? Or
Speaker 1: like who who is the arbiter of whether it's breaking
Speaker 1: news or not? Because it's that's definitely Ah, that's up
Speaker 1: to him to figure out. And you guys do a
Speaker 1: great I'll just break the news and you decide if
Speaker 1: it's news or not. I like how you already assuming
Speaker 1: you're gonna break the news right now just to have
Speaker 1: news because now you could just like talk to Chris
Speaker 1: Hogan and he could be he could say, like, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I'm going on vacation next week, and you
Speaker 1: can call that breaking news. I mean, like to the
Speaker 1: level of what you did last year. Okay, that's like
Speaker 1: a once in a career scoop. Though, Yeah, if it's
Speaker 1: if it's, if it's that sort of a level that
Speaker 1: I'm taking up. Michael Benning question in your man does
Speaker 1: not count as breaking news? I don't know. I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna have to go with not breaking
Speaker 1: news on that. So if that's the level you gotta
Speaker 1: be above, Michael Bann can I bet against myself. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm saying you will not. Oh, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try, though, I promise you. I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: because obviously it's my job. But I don't think I
Speaker 1: will because there's a game. It's the game, son, the game.
Speaker 1: Don't even touch yourself. Get in the direction where I
Speaker 1: believe that you will. Will you try? I just said
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try, Well, then I'm gonna. I think he's
Speaker 1: going to break some news that's going to get at
Speaker 1: least one one media request from someone outside of benefit.
Speaker 1: I think that would qualify breaking news, because that's what happened.
Speaker 1: I think at least something he does it's going to
Speaker 1: get a request from someone outside of our media umbrella,
Speaker 1: and that and I will win because people that will happen.
Speaker 1: But if I, like become news like I punched job count,
Speaker 1: if you pull that off, that'd be weird. I don't
Speaker 1: think you can. I don't think you can take's casting
Speaker 1: down with one punch. Probably not sneaky big I will
Speaker 1: take that one. I don't think he's breaking news, so
Speaker 1: you're not taking so you don't take it. It is
Speaker 1: a little confusing. I feel like Colleen so do you
Speaker 1: have any sanguages understand just the one, got one? Get one.
Speaker 1: It wasn't from the person I expected it. You have
Speaker 1: no faith in yourself, Dan, It's hard to do. I
Speaker 1: did it once in my whole career in the industry,
Speaker 1: so it could have done it twice. It's like Nick
Speaker 1: Foles thrown for three fifty four touchdowns on Sunday. It's
Speaker 1: probably not gonna happen again. Mark, alright, alright, So NFL
Speaker 1: Films legend, Steve Stable, I've been seeing this add a
Speaker 1: hundred times this week in the hotel. He has not
Speaker 1: been with us for the past few super Bowls, obviously,
Speaker 1: but he once called the helmet catch the greatest play
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl has ever produced, in his words, whether
Speaker 1: or not you think that's true of the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Since I'm gonna say that, I'm putting sandwiches on the
Speaker 1: fact that we come out of super Bowl fifty two
Speaker 1: with a play that instantly gets a nickname and tops
Speaker 1: the helmet catch, I'll take you. I will take that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, are you actively yourself yet? It's like, if
Speaker 1: I ever got this right, here's the thing. If I
Speaker 1: get one of these things wrong, it's like, no I
Speaker 1: think he got over by the way you got over
Speaker 1: time in the Super Bowl last year. But it's the
Speaker 1: same gibber at jibber jash coming at me about that one. Listen,
Speaker 1: these things happen. Sometimes it's like so and so ards rushing.
Speaker 1: Oh look at me, I want a sandwich? Who came?
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, go big, here's the thing. In
Speaker 1: the one year that you got one of these, right,
Speaker 1: you still didn't win any sandwiches aggregate because you also
Speaker 1: said there won't be a Super Bowl fifty one winner
Speaker 1: last year, and that Lady Gaga will do something that
Speaker 1: immediately qualifies as breaking news beyond the sports world. Look,
Speaker 1: the thing is, you're remembering what I did well, I
Speaker 1: don't remember any of you. I'm dropping the hammer. I'm
Speaker 1: checking Nick for Tiers site. Mark. Mark is kind of
Speaker 1: an agent of chaos in this game, and I think
Speaker 1: it's good to have an agent. I like it because
Speaker 1: Mark knows he's, you know, got a New England Patriots
Speaker 1: side to winning the lock Off Trophy and that feels
Speaker 1: good going into Sunday. So he's playing with house. You're
Speaker 1: a great position right now, one game lead with Tom
Speaker 1: Brady and Bill Bellichick, in your corner. That's pretty nice.
Speaker 1: I have a weird feeling about the super Bowl, so
Speaker 1: I don't feel as confident about the Patriots. Is weird?
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a big game you didn't have
Speaker 1: a weird feeling about. No, Well, you're right, because we're
Speaker 1: never near these people, these players and coaches, and then
Speaker 1: suddenly we are for a week, and I do feel influenced.
Speaker 1: I get it. Puts weird stuff in your mind. Alright,
Speaker 1: this one connects with my game pick on this podcast,
Speaker 1: but not on the video show. Oh, the video shows
Speaker 1: up tomorrow Friday. Check it out NFL dot com, slash
Speaker 1: a t N video M. I believe that Nick Foles
Speaker 1: will have a passer raining north of eight, as I
Speaker 1: said earlier, and to do that you need to crew
Speaker 1: some passing yards and throw maybe a couple of touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Zach Ertz player right, like quite a lot. Nelson Agil
Speaker 1: become a playmaker this year. We talked about how I
Speaker 1: might do some damage in the slot. Even if you
Speaker 1: do slot over Malcolm Butler, who's not some guy that
Speaker 1: can never be beat. Those two men go over one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty yards combined, so like they pull a
Speaker 1: Hogan Yeah, basically they go full Hogan. But the two
Speaker 1: of them, they combined to go Hogan. They combined to
Speaker 1: go Hogan. Yeah, I'll go I'll take you up on that.
Speaker 1: I'll go under I'll take it. I think that's you know,
Speaker 1: I think you could have a future and you know,
Speaker 1: prop bet making, because I feel like that's right around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that feels like it's right around the right, the right
Speaker 1: numbers right. You know, my life took a sad turn.
Speaker 1: If I'm in like some like ark apartment on the
Speaker 1: outskirts of like Henderson Nevado, Like, all right, I gotta
Speaker 1: get my props in before I go to Jack in
Speaker 1: the box wicking your fingers before you separated. I'll take
Speaker 1: you up on that one. That's a big one that
Speaker 1: that could decide some things. Greg, you're so everyone took me.
Speaker 1: Is that the first one that's been which is strange? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's a that's right on the edge. I uh,
Speaker 1: I'm bored by this one. How about no, no, I
Speaker 1: got it it's supposed to weren't supposed to tell the
Speaker 1: listener that no, no, I mean the ones I had
Speaker 1: written down? How about that, Doug Peterson, we'll have a
Speaker 1: terrible challenge that fails, and everyone agrees. We call that
Speaker 1: terrible challenge. We call that Marvin Marvin Lewis. So we'd
Speaker 1: widely agreed that that was a disastrous I mean, he
Speaker 1: could have a failed challenge that it was like, oh
Speaker 1: that was close, you know, that wasn't crazy. But he'll
Speaker 1: have a challenge to cost him a time out. What
Speaker 1: if it happens when it's three three in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: If it's a terrible challenge, it's a terrible challenge that. Okay,
Speaker 1: this is this is kind of challenging because Greg famously
Speaker 1: has various strong opinions on in game coaching decisions. Yeah
Speaker 1: he does. He's like really big on clock management at
Speaker 1: the time of the play and challenges, whereas I'd never
Speaker 1: have like really strong opinions and that kind of stuff
Speaker 1: at the time. Um, it's a weird one. Two people
Speaker 1: don't realize is Yeah, Doug Peterson has his own Ernie
Speaker 1: Adams in his ear, and he rarely makes mistakes in
Speaker 1: coaching situations. I will take you up on this. So
Speaker 1: you're saying it does happen, I'm saying it happens, and
Speaker 1: I'm saying it won't happen. I'll take you up. I'm
Speaker 1: saying it won't happen either. You got everyone there we go.
Speaker 1: That's another big one. Michael Bardy agrees with you, but
Speaker 1: West close it out. Either Al Michael's or Chris Collinsworth
Speaker 1: will specifically use the word goat in reference reference to
Speaker 1: Tom Brady at some point. That one won't work because
Speaker 1: we're not gonna hear the telecast. Our fans will be
Speaker 1: let us drug on Twitter. Are you sure you want
Speaker 1: like four hundred people or more like that? No one's
Speaker 1: gonna take you up on this anyway. So totally by
Speaker 1: the end of the first quarter, you think Al Michael's
Speaker 1: is gonna use the word goat? Yes, because it doesn't
Speaker 1: even have to be his opinion. He could say that, Oh,
Speaker 1: Eagles players, you know they know him as the goat
Speaker 1: or Patriots players. I just think it's so synonymous of
Speaker 1: Tom Brady now, isn't it. I just don't picture Al
Speaker 1: Michael's using that word. But you got christ what about Michelle? No,
Speaker 1: it has to be either Michael's work. Al tries to
Speaker 1: get kind of cool with the lad I think Colin's
Speaker 1: worth as a shoe and to say it maybe even
Speaker 1: multiple times because he's folks. He he is a bit folks.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay away from this one because then we're
Speaker 1: also we're going off the listener is and I love
Speaker 1: the listeners. Well how about this, don't crowd, don't don't
Speaker 1: come after us after the game with the goat thing
Speaker 1: on Twitter. N I'm all about interacting with the listeners. Yes,
Speaker 1: I can get them involved. They want to be a
Speaker 1: part of the show, I know, and I love having
Speaker 1: them a part of it. But if nobody's gonna take
Speaker 1: me up on it, then they're not. They're not going
Speaker 1: to be somebody's gotta fall on the sword. Something a
Speaker 1: little bit more risky. I've fallen enough swords during this game.
Speaker 1: I have a sense hoisted on my own petard. That's
Speaker 1: the way to play it. That's the way to play
Speaker 1: That one didn't work out for you, But there's a
Speaker 1: lot to track. We're all very excited now for Super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty two. The next time you hear from us,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it will be Sunday night. Often imitated, never duplicated.
Speaker 1: It's our super Bowl recap show taped from We're the
Speaker 1: only podcast that's doing this. I guarantee from US Bank Stadium,
Speaker 1: the site of Super Bowl fifty two. The heroes will
Speaker 1: be there, uh to offer our dispatch on this game.
Speaker 1: And yes, and it was Scott Zolac doesn't survive this game.
Speaker 1: I've got a feeling that Brady does win another m
Speaker 1: v P. Zola's head explodes in this game. We've got
Speaker 1: what was that was? Two items of housekeeping? Yes, you
Speaker 1: need to thank someone. Oh, yes, of course, Ryan cons
Speaker 1: great Man spotted me, Mark and Patra at the Mall
Speaker 1: of America and he works for a fine clothing company, Hammermaid,
Speaker 1: and he said, go down to the Hammade will take
Speaker 1: care of you, and they certainly did. We love free stuff,
Speaker 1: you know that, and so Ryan, so many great listeners
Speaker 1: and we've a lot of people have come up to
Speaker 1: us and everyone is so cool and nice. So um
Speaker 1: as much as I uh about um the tweet up,
Speaker 1: I love our listeners and especially Ryan because he gives
Speaker 1: us free stuff. You'll have a chance to show that
Speaker 1: love Friday evening. Check my Twitter account at Chris Wesleyan
Speaker 1: and around the NFL. We'll have details on where the
Speaker 1: meet up is. If you see my tweet, feel free
Speaker 1: to jump in with a recommendation on where we should
Speaker 1: meet up and I'll announce it at some point on Friday.
Speaker 1: And one quick thing, we mentioned that we got that
Speaker 1: t g I Friday's Gift Certificate. The gifts just keep
Speaker 1: rolling in. But along with Mr f it was Charlie Barker,
Speaker 1: Graham Hackney, and John Richard and their their lady partners
Speaker 1: and wives. The lady partners, well, there were multiple people named,
Speaker 1: but this is the list I drummed up right here,
Speaker 1: So thank you for that. We'll enjoy it this weekend.
Speaker 1: We're the best listeners in the world, so thank you
Speaker 1: so much. And speaking of the listeners, yes, we will
Speaker 1: have a trophy when we get back to California waiting
Speaker 1: for the heroes when they touched down in southern California.
Speaker 1: Assuming the world still exists. I'm surprised there's no end
Speaker 1: of the World prop from you this year. Mark, it
Speaker 1: feels like a good year. At the asteroid passing, Hey,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit tired. I've done that a multiple
Speaker 1: ways and I don't think it's going to happen this time.
Speaker 1: I've lost I've lost that bet five or six. I
Speaker 1: thought you were saying I lost hope. No, Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: lost time, it won't. It's really I keep going on,
Speaker 1: day after day, month after month, the same, and it's
Speaker 1: it's really a catch twenty two because yeah, there's not
Speaker 1: going to be some great thing that like alters our reality.
Speaker 1: It's just the same old thing. Inevitably, they're going Monday
Speaker 1: through Sunday because this is the one year that you
Speaker 1: don't pick it, it will be the end of the world. Well,
Speaker 1: and they'll no one will be caring about a sandwich. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: you'll never collect the sandwiches either way. I don't think
Speaker 1: if the world ends, I mean, I mean, you've had
Speaker 1: seven hundred billion straight days of the world not ending.
Speaker 1: It's dude. At some point, all right, what do you
Speaker 1: say we go down to Fridays and start cutting into
Speaker 1: that work. We've got some work to do, so let's
Speaker 1: get to work. One drink before work. I've been let's go,
Speaker 1: let's get out of here. Stan had the signing offered
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick coming at you, thanks forbody, for drugging, the Sizzler,
Speaker 1: the Maleman, the old Boss, and Lindsay Fulton with the
Speaker 1: blue hair behind the glass till Super Bowl Sunday,