Speaker 1: We will never forget this, hopefully with joy in our hearts.
Speaker 1: Nime Suckings left Eagles by eight. Pretty wants the black.
Speaker 1: He's back again. He steps on, he's hit, he stumbles,
Speaker 1: he is throwing it deep for the end zone, and
Speaker 1: it is bat it around and complete and the game
Speaker 1: is offs. Over. The Philadelphia Eagles are Super Bowl champions.
Speaker 1: Eagles fans everywhere, this is for you. Let the celebration begin.
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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast from US Bank Stadium, super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty two. My name is Dan Janzas, and I
Speaker 1: am joined by a stadium filled with heroes. Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosental. What's up boys, hey? Dn?
Speaker 1: Oh nondescript afternoon here? Oh yeah, that was of course,
Speaker 1: Merril Reese and Mike Quick with the call in the morning.
Speaker 1: This is no afternoon, but I feel like we've been
Speaker 1: here for three years. Be right. That was the final
Speaker 1: call of Super Bowl fifty to the Philadelphia Eagles, for
Speaker 1: the first time in their franchise history, are Super Bowl champions.
Speaker 1: A forty one to thirty three win over the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots in one of the greatest shootouts, Greg And
Speaker 1: how you doing? By the way, guy, I'm doing good.
Speaker 1: So it's actually much nicer to cover the to cover
Speaker 1: the game professionally and just be busy and kind of
Speaker 1: be here live if you're at home, and he would
Speaker 1: be miserable. What I was gonna say was in one
Speaker 1: of the not just greatest shoot outs in Super Bowl
Speaker 1: history or playoff history, but professional football history, a game
Speaker 1: where defenses did not show up to play until one
Speaker 1: of the defense is made a play that helped seal
Speaker 1: the game. There's a rollicking game. It's like a seven
Speaker 1: on seven drill for both teams. We were on Sky
Speaker 1: Sports West and I and the first thing they were asking, like,
Speaker 1: how do you assess this performance? Just back and forth,
Speaker 1: ping pong, And to me, it was like two drunk
Speaker 1: cousins playing Madden and like literally scrapping any element of defense. No,
Speaker 1: I mean there was literally no punt by the Patriots
Speaker 1: the entire game. There were so many oddities about this game.
Speaker 1: It was incredible. There there was not a stop in
Speaker 1: the second half other than that Brandon Graham force fumble
Speaker 1: every other possession and the end of the game that
Speaker 1: the Patriots couldn't come up with. Every other possession was
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and in a game where there was so
Speaker 1: there was so little separating the two teams because the
Speaker 1: offenses just absolutely embarrassed both of the defenses. Overall, they
Speaker 1: were just little kind of game management moments where the
Speaker 1: Eagles were better. The Eagles closed out the first half
Speaker 1: with a touchdown, which has kind of been the Patriots move.
Speaker 1: The Patriots gave away more points on special teams than
Speaker 1: the Eagles, who had their own problems on special teams
Speaker 1: as well, but the Patriots are the ones that gave
Speaker 1: away more points. And unlike third and fourth down, a
Speaker 1: lot of the plays Nick Foles made were just money plays.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's why it's not hitting me as hard
Speaker 1: right now, because I honestly think like he just made
Speaker 1: those plays and the receivers made those plays. It took
Speaker 1: incredible plays on drive after driving, third down and fourth
Speaker 1: down after fourth down for them to come out on top. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the mistakes from the Patriots end. Brady drops the pass
Speaker 1: when he goes out as a wide receiver on third down. Uh,
Speaker 1: he scrambles ill advisedly at the end of the half,
Speaker 1: taking away a chance maybe for a field goal drive
Speaker 1: the end of the first half. Yeah, Chris Hogan drops
Speaker 1: a pass late in the game. Brandon Cook's lack of
Speaker 1: peripheral vision knocked him out of the game because he
Speaker 1: didn't see Malcolm Jenkins coming that you have to be
Speaker 1: able to see that player coming all over. On the
Speaker 1: flip side, the Eagles sort of had done what they've
Speaker 1: done all year, incredibly daring do going forward on fourth
Speaker 1: and one at one point, which didn't even seem that
Speaker 1: unusual for them because that's who they are this year.
Speaker 1: And just I thought that they pushed New England's defense
Speaker 1: around daring do a little bit of Darren do, a
Speaker 1: little bit of that. It's like one it's six new
Speaker 1: words are coming out old phrases. Listen, the Patriots didn't
Speaker 1: execute the way you would expect in this game, and
Speaker 1: even at the end of the game, and we'll get
Speaker 1: to it when when everyone and their brother and their
Speaker 1: sister believed that Tom Brady was going to just lead
Speaker 1: him down the field and it didn't happen. But Nick Foles,
Speaker 1: to me, is the story of this game, beyond anything else.
Speaker 1: Nick Foles, who was pot sitively Mundane uh in each
Speaker 1: of his first or many of his UH starts to
Speaker 1: start after he replaced Carson Wentz. He played well against
Speaker 1: the Giants and then he kind of went in the
Speaker 1: tank for three weeks and he was okay, too good
Speaker 1: depending what you think, in the Falcons game, and then
Speaker 1: lights out an NFC title game and a Super Bowl performance,
Speaker 1: and he was awarded with an m v P. Oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't see a car as we look down on
Speaker 1: the field. I guess they don't give away a car
Speaker 1: to the m v P anymore. I mean, I can
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to have a Nick Foles. What
Speaker 1: he did these past three weeks in these two games
Speaker 1: was remarkable. Like he played. I wouldn't say he was
Speaker 1: better than Tom Brady today because Brady was tremendous as
Speaker 1: he always is on the stage. But he he went
Speaker 1: punch for punch with the greatest quarterback ever. Who saw
Speaker 1: that coming. When I talked to Johnny Filippo, the quarterback
Speaker 1: coach for the Eagles, and this was off the record,
Speaker 1: but at the end of the conversation, I was just
Speaker 1: basically talked a little bit about Folds. He's like, Fools
Speaker 1: is such a high character guy. We loved Nick Rolls.
Speaker 1: He's just such a such a guy that everyone believes
Speaker 1: in and so it's that's great the person. But then
Speaker 1: he said, no, no, the player. He said, this team
Speaker 1: is totally bought into what Nick Foles had don't know
Speaker 1: the past couple of weeks. He said, we're gonna beat
Speaker 1: New England. He was ultra confident, and this Eagles team
Speaker 1: all week long expressed total confidence in their quarterback and
Speaker 1: in themselves. It nearly became the first Super Bowl in
Speaker 1: history with zero sacks. I mean, it's one of the
Speaker 1: other way till the last three minutes for that to happen,
Speaker 1: and it changed this game. It's one of the best
Speaker 1: quarterback performances in a Super Bowl period. You don't need
Speaker 1: uh qualifier that it was Nick Foles or in Tom
Speaker 1: Brady was great in this game too. I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: someplace he would take back. But he had five five
Speaker 1: yards against a great defense, So that's that's not the point.
Speaker 1: The point is he had a low percentage throws Nick
Speaker 1: Foles did, I mean throws that were not easy. I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about the play to agil Are on their final
Speaker 1: drive where where he's on the run there's a couple
Speaker 1: of different plays where he threw it on a dime
Speaker 1: on the sideline. Think about the touchdown passes. The throw
Speaker 1: to Jeffrey was a very different called throat, the throw
Speaker 1: to Clement, which I think, I mean, there's so many,
Speaker 1: but that's a play that's on third and six. It's
Speaker 1: a turkey whole shot. As John Gruden would say, the
Speaker 1: safety is coming over. You need to have. Basically every
Speaker 1: skill that a quarterback needs to have is on that throw.
Speaker 1: And he puts it right on the money, and his
Speaker 1: receivers came through and made great place for him. They did,
Speaker 1: and I thought it was a little bit of psychological
Speaker 1: war for after Brady wide open dropped that pass that
Speaker 1: we mentioned that you turn around and have Nick Full's
Speaker 1: score on a receiving that he called it. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was out of his mind in this game. He he
Speaker 1: showed up to play. I think the Eagles they deserve
Speaker 1: so much credit an underdog three weeks in a row
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and speaking to a Sparrow at our
Speaker 1: beautiful hotel and by the way, we crushed the over Fridays.
Speaker 1: It was close, but then Friday turned into Saturday and
Speaker 1: it was the contest was well, it was left in tatters.
Speaker 1: We had a terrific meet up with our listeners, thanks
Speaker 1: to everyone that was came by. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: the number is when you look at the box score,
Speaker 1: it won't say that I had, you know, necessarily a
Speaker 1: huge impact. But I think you were basically Malcolm Butler.
Speaker 1: But I think now that's not true. I think I
Speaker 1: think the emotional the emotional lift that I gave the
Speaker 1: team on Friday night, because frankly, I put in more
Speaker 1: hours at that tweet up than anybody else from beginning
Speaker 1: to end, carrying this one unnamed person out of that bar.
Speaker 1: I'm saying I was there, and I'm just saying this narrative,
Speaker 1: this era that I gave everyone from beginning night is
Speaker 1: definitely it was definitely a quantity over quality scenario for you, Greg,
Speaker 1: but we do appreciate your like Malcolm Butler, who no
Speaker 1: showed Sunday, Greg no showed Saturday night. So it all
Speaker 1: it all even does No Saturday night was a second
Speaker 1: part of it. Now you were you were like we
Speaker 1: had Patriots friends from all over Wilbraham, Massachusetts, Minniesak Regional.
Speaker 1: We're out to dinner whereout the t g I Fridays
Speaker 1: in the world mixed with your glory, there was certainly
Speaker 1: an aspect of hell turn to You know, we were
Speaker 1: there quietly working on this here all week, and you
Speaker 1: kind of just left us hanging and then swooped swooped
Speaker 1: in when the when the party was happening, and then
Speaker 1: we get it. I said the over under the second
Speaker 1: and went up. I said, there's no problem, that thing's
Speaker 1: going over you wait, you're you had a little bit
Speaker 1: of blood in your hands at the over under two
Speaker 1: mark in what way. A bit of a bit later arrival,
Speaker 1: some people were grumbling by Oh, here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: showed up on time. I had a good friend and
Speaker 1: you met up. He brought his baby to the meet
Speaker 1: up and realized that the scene was a bit too
Speaker 1: chaotic for a baby, So I spent some quality time
Speaker 1: with him and his family, and then he returned last
Speaker 1: night to help with you over. So my, what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, it was so yeah, thank you everybody
Speaker 1: that came out. It was great. We haven't met a
Speaker 1: dude that's seven ft three. That is awesome. Just to
Speaker 1: get a seven footer in your fan base, that's that's
Speaker 1: big at one point him standing next to like a
Speaker 1: much shorter Patriots fan and not Greg. It's separate, a
Speaker 1: different person. So what are the other people that we
Speaker 1: converse with around the in the NFL football? Gagna Centi,
Speaker 1: a sparrow I'll call him, told me that a prominent
Speaker 1: figure within the within the Eagles, UH, expressed total confidence
Speaker 1: that the Eagles would put up forty on the Patriots,
Speaker 1: and they did just that. They This team was confident
Speaker 1: going into this game, and they played that way. So
Speaker 1: let's now kind of go through the game, UM, quarterby quarter.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll touch on JT's halftime show as well, UH,
Speaker 1: and we'll catch up on our our props, UH super
Speaker 1: Bowl props that we made. How how we all did.
Speaker 1: But let's start with the first quarter and the Patriots
Speaker 1: when the win the toss, they elect to receive UH
Speaker 1: in the second half, as they like to do. But
Speaker 1: the Eagles right away West did exactly what what they
Speaker 1: wanted to do, and they probably would as if they
Speaker 1: did anything not perfectly. On offenses, Brady was on the
Speaker 1: field a lot and scoring every time. They didn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of clock chewing drives except for the first one,
Speaker 1: and their last one or their second to last. When
Speaker 1: the first drive was a great drive, it's stalled, it's
Speaker 1: stalled at the goal line. But seven minutes of the
Speaker 1: clock they get a wild Eagles crowd, uh right into
Speaker 1: the game with a nice scoring drive. Well, let's go
Speaker 1: back to Malcolm Butler again, because this is the big
Speaker 1: mystery of the game, and the Eagles came out and
Speaker 1: immediately attacked Eric Rowe uh and Jordan Richards and Jonathan Batamosi.
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler doesn't play a single snap. He played more
Speaker 1: snaps than any defensive player on the Patriots this season.
Speaker 1: Nobody can figure out exactly why he didn't play. There
Speaker 1: were some illness issues during the week, but that that
Speaker 1: showed up on the very first drive of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's for some backstory. He took a Patriots private plane
Speaker 1: by himself or if a plane by himself and got
Speaker 1: to the team later in the week, which now you
Speaker 1: look back at and you wonder was what was what
Speaker 1: was going on with that? They said he was sick,
Speaker 1: but he did wind up practicing later in the week.
Speaker 1: And I think you know too, if we're going to
Speaker 1: talk about Butler, now, probably the most telling quote after
Speaker 1: the game was Eric Rowe was asked about it and
Speaker 1: he said, you know, was that the plan? You know,
Speaker 1: did you expect to replace Malcolm Butler? And he said
Speaker 1: that wasn't the plan. Well, and another telling quote, I
Speaker 1: don't I think he doesn't know what to say. Another
Speaker 1: telling quote was Malcolm Butler after the game saying that
Speaker 1: the team gave up on him. There's a quote, So
Speaker 1: they gave up on me. F that's the F word.
Speaker 1: It is what it is. So that is you know.
Speaker 1: And I know Erica tam Posey, the loose cannon, who's
Speaker 1: very emotional, She's a huge Patriots fan, upset about the outcome.
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of people like Erica
Speaker 1: that right now are dealing with anger that how did
Speaker 1: our defense get completely butchered in this game? And arguably
Speaker 1: our top quarnerback or top two cornerback was benched for
Speaker 1: something that might maybe not the right time for that.
Speaker 1: We don't know what the true story is, but Belichick
Speaker 1: moves in mysterious ways. It's It's really interesting because I
Speaker 1: think back to the a f C Championship game a
Speaker 1: year ago, and I remember coming out of that locker
Speaker 1: room and asking another reporter what was up with Malcolm Butler,
Speaker 1: because he kind of seemed not that thrilled that they
Speaker 1: won the game, or just he had a he had
Speaker 1: a strange vibe about him. And you know, the reporter
Speaker 1: had said to me that that's kind of been his
Speaker 1: his deal all season, and that was a season ago
Speaker 1: where he wasn't happy necessarily with the team. I don't
Speaker 1: know what was going on, but there was drama going
Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. And this guy, who I have
Speaker 1: said on this podcast many times my favorite Patriots player
Speaker 1: of the last decade. It is sad to see kind
Speaker 1: of like one of the the author of one of
Speaker 1: the great play Super Bowl moments ever, one of the
Speaker 1: great underdogs ever, to have kind of this as the
Speaker 1: book end for his Patriots career. It's pretty sad. Crazy.
Speaker 1: So they kick a field goal, the Patriots go right
Speaker 1: down the field, they kick a field goal, and then
Speaker 1: the first touchdown on the on the game comes on
Speaker 1: a bang, bang bang, And again what is going on
Speaker 1: with the Patriots defense? Right out of the gate, three
Speaker 1: plays seventy seven yards Nick Foles uh in his first
Speaker 1: big money throw of the game. Spots alshon Jeffrey Hood
Speaker 1: a nice first season in phillydentity full but the motion
Speaker 1: first time he stops, he was going clock by all
Speaker 1: cluck cock song. So Jeffrey makes the thirty four yard
Speaker 1: touchdown catch, the extra point is no good. It goes
Speaker 1: wide right. Uh So the first quarter ends with the
Speaker 1: Eagles up nine three. That reminds me of two different
Speaker 1: to play sequences in the first half where the Eagles
Speaker 1: hit him for big games on back to back plays,
Speaker 1: and that that was one of them. I mean, you
Speaker 1: hit him for thirty six on a run, then you
Speaker 1: hit him what was it for thirty four in a
Speaker 1: pass something like that, and they did it again in
Speaker 1: a later drive, and it was like it was like
Speaker 1: the play calling by Peters and it was like they
Speaker 1: were throwing combination punches and the Patriots were always guessing
Speaker 1: wrong and kind of playing behind, and they would hit
Speaker 1: him with these two straight You just don't see that.
Speaker 1: You know that's not Ben, but don't break. That's just
Speaker 1: you're just broken. You were asking a lot from this
Speaker 1: offense to come out and make big play after big play,
Speaker 1: and right away you could tell that everyone was on
Speaker 1: the same page. The Eagles on third down were unbelievable,
Speaker 1: extending drives over and over, and it wasn't. They were
Speaker 1: the farthest thing from conservative and they were the more
Speaker 1: balanced offense I thought out of the gate because they
Speaker 1: could run the ball well and Garrett Blunt and crew
Speaker 1: really had their way with New England. There was some
Speaker 1: huge holes they were running through, so right away. Foals
Speaker 1: had two big third down throws on that first that
Speaker 1: first drive, and you could tell they were on So
Speaker 1: nine three, the Pats miss a field goal and it
Speaker 1: comes on a a bad snap. They get deep in
Speaker 1: territory again. So there the Patriots never had trouble moving
Speaker 1: the ball. Their quarterback through for five yards. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, there's no there's no such thing as a
Speaker 1: record book anymore for quarterbacks in the playoffs and in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. He has just put so much distance
Speaker 1: between himself and everyone. Uh. But they go straight down
Speaker 1: the field and again this is not the Patriots that
Speaker 1: we expect at this level. Bad snap Das Tawski gets
Speaker 1: in a tough spot where he has to stutter and
Speaker 1: then he hits the upright with the kick and there
Speaker 1: it is Greg I mean, that's that again, is a
Speaker 1: Pats fan, I'm sure you're feeling like, oh, I can't
Speaker 1: leave points on the board with the way my defense looks. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they ended up giving away four points and special teams
Speaker 1: uh three there with the bad snap seven to when
Speaker 1: they eschewed a fifty two York field goal to throw
Speaker 1: a deep ball to grunk down the sideline. That's another
Speaker 1: miss three points in in that moment, which Dan and
Speaker 1: I had had a great uh you know view of
Speaker 1: because our friends at Sky Sports welcomed all four of
Speaker 1: us down in two different segments and we were down
Speaker 1: there for that missfield goal, which had a great view
Speaker 1: of that miss. We need to get our seats down
Speaker 1: there that but it was beautiful to be as part
Speaker 1: of their podcast. The play before that, though, was one
Speaker 1: of the big defensive plays in the In the game,
Speaker 1: Rodney McCleod takes down Brandon Cooks one on one. Cooks
Speaker 1: has gotta you know, make him miss. Instead he tries
Speaker 1: to jump over him and that's that takes maybe seven
Speaker 1: points off the board. And even though the Eagles even
Speaker 1: was terrible really overall in this game, they didn't make
Speaker 1: three or four plays and it's like sometimes that's what
Speaker 1: it comes down to. They their individuals, including McLeod on
Speaker 1: that play made a couple of big time plays, and
Speaker 1: that was one of them. The Eagles then get on
Speaker 1: the board again at le Garrett Blunt uh twenty one
Speaker 1: yard touchdown run. They go for two. Uh. At this
Speaker 1: point I thought that was an interesting move. At the time,
Speaker 1: it seemed maybe early. They were fifteen three. They fail again.
Speaker 1: The one thing the Eagles failed on offense uh in
Speaker 1: this game was two point conversions that felt twice in
Speaker 1: addition to missing an extra point. I know and I
Speaker 1: and I called the missed extra point, and I had
Speaker 1: said that that was going to be the difference in
Speaker 1: a one point Patriots win. And at one point it
Speaker 1: was thirty three to thirty two in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: with a mixed extra point on the board. So far,
Speaker 1: so far? Would you say, Greg that I am being
Speaker 1: a class act so far? Like some people would think
Speaker 1: I'd come out and be gloating. So far, total pro very, classy.
Speaker 1: I's been a fine day for all of that. Yes,
Speaker 1: you're you're a classy guy. Uh So fifth team six
Speaker 1: now and you're thinking to yourself, oh boy, are the
Speaker 1: Patriots about to fall into a deep hole? But it
Speaker 1: never really happened that way. Fifteen six after this point,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a back and forth affair. UM, James
Speaker 1: White scores a rushing touchdown, uh, and then the Eagles.
Speaker 1: The Eagles score again, they can't get a stop, and
Speaker 1: it happens in a very interesting way. UM. Let me
Speaker 1: go back first and say this. There was a huge play.
Speaker 1: And we've represent twice with Tom Brady with the Patriots
Speaker 1: and Josh McDaniels and maybe maybe his last game. Maybe
Speaker 1: we'll see there's a report out there that McDaniels might
Speaker 1: not be ready to move on and which would leave
Speaker 1: the Colts in a very bad way. But a huge
Speaker 1: play in which Tom Brady was the intended receiver, and
Speaker 1: we have not heard from our boys, Scotty Zolac yet. Uh.
Speaker 1: The let's listen to the play in the second quarter
Speaker 1: in which Tom Brady uh had a chance to score
Speaker 1: touchdown with his legs in his hand, staff to Britty
Speaker 1: could give to James One pictures it back to Danny Emmadol.
Speaker 1: He throws a lotty and Peel played the Patriots pull
Speaker 1: out of play from a twenty fifteen game against them,
Speaker 1: throwing it to Britty Because we didn't hear Zolac, he
Speaker 1: was just about deciding he was probably you know, Zolac
Speaker 1: probably was next level. I've heard I've heard some like
Speaker 1: uh inside uh info that Zolac very quiet in this
Speaker 1: game at certain stretches, certainly their extend. So the Patriots
Speaker 1: are unable to come through there. I think he's going in.
Speaker 1: I think he makes a couple of guys missed. He
Speaker 1: wasn't going in out of bounds like two ft later.
Speaker 1: I think Brady cost him six on the play. But
Speaker 1: this was this was an arena I used to cover
Speaker 1: the Arena League for like one month when that Roader
Speaker 1: World and Arena League games is all about getting like
Speaker 1: one year two stops, and there really were only like
Speaker 1: two stops by the Eagles all game. And so this
Speaker 1: this miss ended up feeling like a huge mistake because
Speaker 1: it was one of those two stops. You say, arena ball,
Speaker 1: I say, Rocky four. It's like there's no defense. Rocky's
Speaker 1: just like holding Draco with his left hand and punching
Speaker 1: him the whole time, and Draco is doing the same
Speaker 1: to Rocky. That's what this football game was. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: the Patriots missing an opportunity. Whether or not you think
Speaker 1: he's gonna make some moves and getting the end zone.
Speaker 1: It's probably a twenty five yard game. Calm down, Maybe
Speaker 1: he doesn't score a touchdown the Patriots. Did you miss
Speaker 1: the scrambled play when he had a tanyard head start
Speaker 1: on Brandon Graham down second? I think he would. I
Speaker 1: think he's got some quick twitch because of all the
Speaker 1: elastic fans anyway, So now Brady doesn't get it done
Speaker 1: with his hands. However, there's another quarterback. This to me
Speaker 1: was kind of the biggest play of the game on
Speaker 1: some level, or at least at this stage. Greg you
Speaker 1: wrote about it, uh afterward, and it's up on NFL
Speaker 1: dot com slash Rosenthal. Uh. The the Eagles doing what
Speaker 1: other teams had failed to do against the Patriots in
Speaker 1: the big money spots, and this came on a fourth down,
Speaker 1: uh near It was a long one, almost two yards
Speaker 1: late in the first half, and the Eagles take out
Speaker 1: their bag of tricks to score another touchdown. Woes to
Speaker 1: the runner goes directly to common Clement Well Versus said,
Speaker 1: I have a past the outcome to touchdow on their
Speaker 1: phone listen a little round town. I mean, that's a
Speaker 1: painful thing to listen to for me, for for many reasons,
Speaker 1: but one of which is that Jay Burton threw that
Speaker 1: touchdown pass. Yeah, you gotta get that right, But that
Speaker 1: was Greg Walla walla onion hanger right there. Uh, to
Speaker 1: involve your to do a trick play because at three
Speaker 1: points lead right there. I like that they went for it.
Speaker 1: But then they also said, we love our playbook and
Speaker 1: we're gonna take one and stick it to Billy Boy.
Speaker 1: And they did. That play was called Philly spa show
Speaker 1: you a little bit of all gone huge unions. And
Speaker 1: it took onions, and it took planning. It was a
Speaker 1: play they actually had in for the Minnesota games. So
Speaker 1: it's not like he suddenly saw Tom Brady drop a
Speaker 1: pass and they're like, oh, I really want to stick
Speaker 1: it to the page. That's what it was by just
Speaker 1: like creating this play to you know, mock them almost.
Speaker 1: It was a play they almost called against Minnesota. He
Speaker 1: says they stole it essentially from the Bears, who ran
Speaker 1: it on Alson, you know, als On Jeffrey's team a
Speaker 1: year ago. It worked for the Bears, then it worked
Speaker 1: for the Eagles here and the most surprising thing I heard,
Speaker 1: I think after the game about was Burton saying, oh,
Speaker 1: when we do that in practice, you can throw the
Speaker 1: ball anywhere to Nick Foles. Because Nick Foles so athletic,
Speaker 1: he'll catch it, doesn't matter if he's covered or if not,
Speaker 1: He's gonna make that play. And I'm like, like, really,
Speaker 1: Nick Foles, is Jerry Rice out there? And you had
Speaker 1: a great tweet about that. I mean, it was a
Speaker 1: killer turn of events from New England because when before
Speaker 1: the New England scored, James White's twenty six yard run
Speaker 1: to go essentially put them down fifteen twelve, and I
Speaker 1: turned to West and Greg and said, New England's winning
Speaker 1: this game. I just I and I and I have
Speaker 1: a pretty good record when I do that. I was
Speaker 1: way off base this time. You also said they scored
Speaker 1: too early. They scored too because you gave the Eagles
Speaker 1: a little over two minutes and the way these teams
Speaker 1: were both moving the ball, that's way too much time.
Speaker 1: And so to go cap off the first half with
Speaker 1: that to go up ten right before the half, I
Speaker 1: thought that was an absolute killer turn of events for
Speaker 1: New England. That was maybe the ballsiest Super Bowl call
Speaker 1: since Sean Payton's on side kick to start the third
Speaker 1: quarter in the Saint super Bowl victory. And I can't
Speaker 1: say enough good things about this offensive coaching staff, their
Speaker 1: creative play design, they're timely play calling, and god, I
Speaker 1: hope as much as team copycat against teams that win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, I hope so many more coaches become
Speaker 1: aggressive on fourth down in key situations like Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: has been all year, even with this an own announcers
Speaker 1: questioning him on it, and you're you're right, like that
Speaker 1: was maybe not even the gutsiest fourth down call or
Speaker 1: call that Peterson made in the game. I mean, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: the whole thing is crazy. I love that. And he
Speaker 1: said that throughout the week as players all said that
Speaker 1: after the game that pregame throughout the week, Frank Rank
Speaker 1: has coach said it said, We're gonna be aggressive, whether
Speaker 1: we're ahead, whether we're behind, just expect it for sixty minutes.
Speaker 1: That's how we roll. So that made it twelve and
Speaker 1: even better, it happened so late in the quarter that
Speaker 1: the Patriots were not able to do the thing they
Speaker 1: love to do, which is they left to bang you
Speaker 1: with a score right at the end of the half,
Speaker 1: then get the ball back and then score again. And
Speaker 1: it's a move I do and matten all the time.
Speaker 1: I think I learned it from Bill Parcels and Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: or they learned it from you potentially. No, but that's
Speaker 1: cool too. I like that idea. Um So, anyway, we're
Speaker 1: at halftime. Uh, justin Timberley comes out. I I like
Speaker 1: to call it, and I gotta be careful with my
Speaker 1: words because tampost he's already on edge a little bit.
Speaker 1: She's untilt. But I enjoyed the show. She's looking at
Speaker 1: me right now. I enjoyed the show. I thought it
Speaker 1: was workman lie Uh he did an eleven song medley.
Speaker 1: I do have one hot take about it, But I
Speaker 1: want to hear your guys thoughts about timber Lake. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I came in with very little expectations because
Speaker 1: a lot of times these halftime shows, you watched them
Speaker 1: and they look a little disheveled from the stadium itself,
Speaker 1: or at least for worst seated. Then you see it
Speaker 1: on television and it's a completely different experience. I found
Speaker 1: out quickly that we had the reverse because I thought
Speaker 1: it was fantastic here and I tweeted about I thought
Speaker 1: I thought Erica would have loved it. And immediately start
Speaker 1: getting peppered with tweets. I don't know what you watched,
Speaker 1: and that's not what I saw at home, and I
Speaker 1: guess there were some technical issues, so maybe on TV
Speaker 1: it didn't play this well. I thought he knocked it
Speaker 1: out the park from where we were. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm the target audience, but I guess what
Speaker 1: I was next to the West West was doing football stuff.
Speaker 1: He was being a good football writer, not really paying
Speaker 1: at day. I could not have been more bored. But
Speaker 1: the performance, which I think you accurately described as workman like,
Speaker 1: which is not what I'm looking for in a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl halftime show. I feel like I have so many
Speaker 1: hot takes on the rest of the game that I
Speaker 1: should just leave the Florida You okay here, Who am
Speaker 1: I the one defending the halftime show? I find probably
Speaker 1: the first time happened, I thought it was a good show,
Speaker 1: and I have my my fire take is that everybody
Speaker 1: calmed down with their big think pieces that are coming
Speaker 1: tomorrow about how Timberlake somehow disrespected Prince by honoring him
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, where the dude was from. It's like, how
Speaker 1: dare you use a hologram. First of all, you know,
Speaker 1: grow up, Peter Pan, know what it is. It's not
Speaker 1: a hologram. It was a projection. Okay, So they did
Speaker 1: a projection that I thought was artfully done, and it
Speaker 1: called back to Prince's own legendary halftime performance. But everybody
Speaker 1: needs something to get fired up about and a little
Speaker 1: hot take machine. Nobody's happy unless they're offended. And then
Speaker 1: it's like we already we already had the Janet thing
Speaker 1: in the holster and we're ready to do that. But
Speaker 1: let's get out of about honoring Prince. Is that where
Speaker 1: we are society we expecting that to happen. We don't.
Speaker 1: So we didn't want Prince honored in Minnesota, that's what
Speaker 1: you wanted. Well, the Prince had, you know, thrown some
Speaker 1: notable shade at j. T. Was not a fan of
Speaker 1: him throughout his career, and so the Prince fans they
Speaker 1: got up in took the high road. Now here's all right,
Speaker 1: here's my other hot take, and Beyonce I did the
Speaker 1: same thing. Everybody would have been like, genius, she's done
Speaker 1: it again. All right. At the end of the halftime
Speaker 1: hot takes, we moved to the third quarter and I
Speaker 1: thought it was very notable. We're talking at halftime before
Speaker 1: j T. I think Greg, you and I remarked, where
Speaker 1: where is Gronk in the first half? And clearly, clearly
Speaker 1: it's you know in nineteen seven fifties football movie, and
Speaker 1: they got the big chalkboard and it's just like throw
Speaker 1: to Gronk all the time. Because the Patriots get the ball,
Speaker 1: they go right down the field and they do this
Speaker 1: on the final plot right with his left foot forward,
Speaker 1: surveys the defense and he takes the staff from the gun,
Speaker 1: he backs up, he throws them zone touchdown. Gronkowski and
Speaker 1: the Patriots quite first him a second half. I'm Super
Speaker 1: Bowl fifty two. The unstoppable Rebel forces back eight places,
Speaker 1: a lack of course, eight place, seventy five yards, two minutes,
Speaker 1: forty five seconds, Gregg, and at that point I'm thinking
Speaker 1: to myself, Uh, if they just throw it the Gronk
Speaker 1: every time, there's no way to lose the game. Because
Speaker 1: he was unstoppable on that drive. I mean he was.
Speaker 1: He ended up with a hundred and sixteen yards and
Speaker 1: he was their third leading receiver, which is ridiculous on
Speaker 1: its own. This is a game and that driver minded
Speaker 1: me of it that. You know, I'm never a big
Speaker 1: believer in momentum in general, but this is a game
Speaker 1: where you can absolutely say there's there's no momentum going
Speaker 1: on either way. Because every time the Patriots scored one
Speaker 1: of these I'm like, oh, like there one of those
Speaker 1: people who don't believe momentum exams. I mean, I don't believe.
Speaker 1: I don't. I think there's something true to it. But basically,
Speaker 1: every time the Patriots, too many analytics, every damn the
Speaker 1: Patriots scored, You're thinking, Okay, here we go, and then
Speaker 1: immediately the Eagles respond, and then immediately the Patriots respond,
Speaker 1: and then immediately the Eagles response. You started to go
Speaker 1: away from the momentum arguments. Realized both of these defenses
Speaker 1: are hideous tonight. They are ultra awful. This season. It
Speaker 1: was shocking that the Eagles couldn't rush Bradyot. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about that for a second, because that is what in
Speaker 1: two weeks of hype. Uh. And we had conversations about it. Greg,
Speaker 1: you were steadfast about it, and it turns out you
Speaker 1: were right. If you judge this game specifically, that is
Speaker 1: good as the Patriots did in terms of limiting points
Speaker 1: during the season. Uh, they were still, especially in the
Speaker 1: last twelve weeks or so, they were still a team
Speaker 1: where you could move the ball on them, and they
Speaker 1: were helped a lot by how great the offense was
Speaker 1: and how often they had the ball. So you kind
Speaker 1: of I wasn't I guess stunned. Well, forty points maybe
Speaker 1: is pretty extreme, but it wasn't stunned that the Eagles
Speaker 1: moved the ball. But the Eagles on defense, where was
Speaker 1: the push? Where was this fearsome pass rush? Didn't happen
Speaker 1: until the two minutes roll right, and then yep, now
Speaker 1: they they rushed him I think three straight plays on
Speaker 1: the on the last time the Patriots had the ball,
Speaker 1: and I think they ended up hitting him more times
Speaker 1: than any teams hit him all year. But it all
Speaker 1: happened late in the game. I was downstairs with the
Speaker 1: Eagles after in Brandon Graham, Electric Cox, Derek Barnett, every
Speaker 1: one of them said, here's what we said on the sideline.
Speaker 1: It's going to take maybe the entire game, but we're
Speaker 1: gonna get to him at some point. We have to
Speaker 1: come up with that one play because the way this
Speaker 1: thing was going. Whoever made the mistake, I was gonna lose.
Speaker 1: And that's what they said, that we have to make
Speaker 1: the Patriots, get them into a situation where Brady who
Speaker 1: tests take too long to pass on one snap, we
Speaker 1: take them down exactly. It was. It was surprising to
Speaker 1: see the Patriots offensive line win that battle against Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I think it was. I would I would assume they
Speaker 1: were pretty disappointed by the performance overall. I would have
Speaker 1: never I would have never expected that they are the
Speaker 1: first team in NFL history, regular season or postseason to
Speaker 1: win a game. They when they gave up six yards amazing.
Speaker 1: I mean I later in the game, when the Patriots
Speaker 1: finally had taken the lead, I I thought they were
Speaker 1: done at that point, because it was like that was
Speaker 1: the start of the game. Said, you pulled me over
Speaker 1: at that point. You were like, I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: how this goes. Patriots pull it away. They're they're pulling
Speaker 1: away and this was minutes. He's like, it's and it's
Speaker 1: gonna end up not being that close. You but you
Speaker 1: should know me well enough by now. But that that
Speaker 1: was a little bit Doca Dorica and Greg Greg made
Speaker 1: a face like no, I never never. Um So this
Speaker 1: is when the game kind of morphs into and it did.
Speaker 1: I did remark to Greg as well. We were sitting
Speaker 1: not next each other, but close to each other right,
Speaker 1: not in my lap as my original request is for
Speaker 1: this game, but it started to feel like at a
Speaker 1: certain point, like that great Cardinals Packers shoot out a
Speaker 1: few years ago in the playoffs where nobody can stop anyone.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, are you guys a fan of
Speaker 1: this type of game, like the crazy shot, because I
Speaker 1: kind of like the more tense affair where it's a
Speaker 1: little a little more defensive minded, not no points, but
Speaker 1: I was a little was like annoyed by that, like
Speaker 1: the defense after I would typically not want this all
Speaker 1: the time. I feel like there's all this emphasis on
Speaker 1: non NonStop offense. I love the occasional strange like seven
Speaker 1: to six game that feels shot out of a cannon
Speaker 1: from five decades ago. But tonight I enjoyed it because
Speaker 1: what we saw and look at. Had Brady ever pulled
Speaker 1: this out, it would have been another example of total
Speaker 1: magical artistry. But instead we got it from both quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So it was perfect first Super Bowl in my opinion.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a reminder it is it's obvious.
Speaker 1: It's a quarterback, it's a passing it's an offensive league.
Speaker 1: I mean, if ever there was a sign of it,
Speaker 1: it's this game. Defense is secondary. It was action packed
Speaker 1: and if you like big plays and momentum swings and
Speaker 1: one team answering the other one that was fun. You'd
Speaker 1: like to see better situational football. One team got clearly
Speaker 1: outcoached by the other because the Patriots were mistake written
Speaker 1: for the entire game. You're right, I'd take a Seahawks
Speaker 1: Patriots super Bowl like that was. You know, there's enough offense,
Speaker 1: enough defense, and the good guys one. Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: I like those Giants Patriots super bowls personally anyway, So
Speaker 1: ground scores and then it just becomes an arena league game.
Speaker 1: The Eagles will go eleven plays, eighty five yards and
Speaker 1: five minutes. Corey Clement, that is the turkey ball, right,
Speaker 1: the turkey shot. That was beautiful. That was threatening. Needle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I want we should touch on this because I
Speaker 1: think you had a good point on this. Greg. It
Speaker 1: seems like after the uh Jeff Jesse James touchdown was
Speaker 1: taken away in Pittsburgh that helped give New England home
Speaker 1: field advantage of the playoffs that even though it's not allowed,
Speaker 1: and it would be maybe uh not something that they
Speaker 1: would ever admit to. But it feels like the catch
Speaker 1: rules shifted because that catch by Clement and it was
Speaker 1: a catch. Come on, let's come down here. But that
Speaker 1: probably under the letter of the law in the early
Speaker 1: river Rn era. It's probably coming back right. There were
Speaker 1: a couple of moments, and I think we heard on
Speaker 1: Roger Goodell's press conference on last Wednesday during the week
Speaker 1: that they want to start over from scratch with the
Speaker 1: catch roll, and that almost got the sense that it's
Speaker 1: already been sent out that we don't want any more
Speaker 1: crazy overturns. And if nothing else, it would have been
Speaker 1: crazy to overturn either of the Eagles touchdowns. It was
Speaker 1: ridiculous that they even reviewed the Earth's one that long,
Speaker 1: so the reviews seemed ten times longer when you're in
Speaker 1: the stadium. By the way, I don't know that one
Speaker 1: was the I'm still waiting for that the Rams Falcons
Speaker 1: call to be made final on the punt that hit
Speaker 1: somebody's leg. I don't think there's any doubt that River
Speaker 1: Iron got a talking to, and it wasn't just Jesse James.
Speaker 1: It was the Calvin Benjamin play against the Patriots where
Speaker 1: they overturned that one in the end zone, and it
Speaker 1: was a ridiculous overturn where you had to slow down
Speaker 1: frame by frame by frame. And they had two places
Speaker 1: tonight where people thought they might be overturned, two huge
Speaker 1: plays for the Eagles. The cat will definitely played a
Speaker 1: rule in this game. You gotta wrap on the knuckles.
Speaker 1: I do think so like the indisputable evidence part of
Speaker 1: the rule. I think they went back to that at
Speaker 1: least that if it's not totally obvious, thank god it's
Speaker 1: on the field. I do love the image of River
Speaker 1: Iron being sat in a wooden chair like an old
Speaker 1: Catholic school, and then Rod just rolls in with a ruler. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: they're they like are projecting critical tweets from Mike Pereira
Speaker 1: on the wall and make you read a pretty imposing guy.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're gonna rap up him on
Speaker 1: the knuckles with a little ruler and set him straight.
Speaker 1: You know, I love prayer or he's a Tito's slugging
Speaker 1: pieson he got loves Tito's, uh, but you know when
Speaker 1: he's coming after the organization and he used to have
Speaker 1: River run shop. I wonder if there's little Pereira River
Speaker 1: ron heat criticized him, do you know blind well, you
Speaker 1: know whatever. Alright, fair enough, Din is over, bro. I
Speaker 1: find in a big spot, slight digression off the main
Speaker 1: storyline here. So yeah, so Clement the call stands, and
Speaker 1: then Greg the Patriots go right down the field again,
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan scores a touchdown and the third quarter ends.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that. You get to Hogan because near
Speaker 1: miss for the sizzler at the end of three quarters,
Speaker 1: and this is where I will get it. I will
Speaker 1: mention shout out to the Patriots. You know, I'm feeling
Speaker 1: in a good mood tonight over the way things go.
Speaker 1: But just in general, the one thing I will give
Speaker 1: the Pats every Super Bowl. The in is a banger.
Speaker 1: This is another banger. It's not a small thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're going to so it's annoying it as it as
Speaker 1: it is the deal fourteen and two every year, and
Speaker 1: that's not a small thing. And then an easy a
Speaker 1: a f C playoff road. It's been all very difficult
Speaker 1: for you, I mean the trials and tribulations. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna believe it. Gregg, it has been difficult to
Speaker 1: be a Jets fan during the Patriots dynasty. I think
Speaker 1: it actually is a real thing. Uh, these games are
Speaker 1: always fun when they're in it, and it does there's
Speaker 1: a certain added gravitas when Brady is involved in Belichick
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be magnanimous on this Well, tonight, you're not
Speaker 1: allowed to call yourself magnat I do it like once
Speaker 1: every four of human growth happening on this show. You
Speaker 1: you really got that sense tonight because it was such
Speaker 1: a heavy Eagles crowd and you kind of just know
Speaker 1: that most of the country is rooting against the Patriots.
Speaker 1: That it does make the game a little more special
Speaker 1: that the Patriots come out and they're getting booted. Almost
Speaker 1: feels like their villains, that they're the these un indestructible villains.
Speaker 1: It adds a little bit to the game that wouldn't
Speaker 1: have if it was a different team. Every single person
Speaker 1: with Patriots fatigue, which give me a break on that,
Speaker 1: is gonna miss them when they're gone. You're gonna miss
Speaker 1: them when they're gone because they give you instant classics
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl every time. They have raised the
Speaker 1: bar for super Bowls were in the golden age of
Speaker 1: Super Bowls because of the page. This is the best
Speaker 1: run by far. And we lived through some bad ones
Speaker 1: when we were younger, and the a f C not
Speaker 1: winning from what fourteen straight years and a bunch of
Speaker 1: terrible blowouts. We've seen some crazy stuff. There's the difference, though,
Speaker 1: West as you you you retired from the Bengals, so
Speaker 1: you are just a football fan. So the Patriots being
Speaker 1: involved and you just get all these great games. It
Speaker 1: makes sense that you're making that statement. But to somebody
Speaker 1: that is still invested in another team, especially one in
Speaker 1: the division, I will not miss the Patriots on their
Speaker 1: gun get out of my life. In fact, you could
Speaker 1: look at this game potentially as the beginning of the
Speaker 1: end the funeral here in the Viking Ship. It's just weird,
Speaker 1: like your team's your team has been out of the race. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your team has been out of the race for two month.
Speaker 1: It's the only thing that makes sense. It's the root
Speaker 1: for good football. I don't get that. This drive endless
Speaker 1: personal narratives, this drive to put a bow on this
Speaker 1: one was a reminder. I think Josh McDaniels had an
Speaker 1: awesome game because I think there were a lot of
Speaker 1: throws that, especially on this drive, that I'm thinking that
Speaker 1: we're not tough throws for Tom Brady. I think he
Speaker 1: played great. He made great decisions. He does so much
Speaker 1: before the snap. But this wasn't a game where he
Speaker 1: was required to make a bunch of crazy But he
Speaker 1: also had a few drives like this where it was
Speaker 1: it was not he didn't need that much. There was
Speaker 1: guys wide open in the Eagle secondary. Um alright, So
Speaker 1: the Eagles then make a massive mistake in their next
Speaker 1: position in the fourth quarter. They don't score a touchdown,
Speaker 1: and in this game, that's a fail because when they're
Speaker 1: unable there a drive stalls Jake Elliott hits a forty
Speaker 1: two yard or they extend the lead again to six points.
Speaker 1: But now Tommy boys getting the ball down less than
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and yeah, what do you think is gonna happen?
Speaker 1: Bang bang bang bang bang ten place seventy five yards
Speaker 1: four or forty seven cap by that man again, Gronk
Speaker 1: who makes a tremendous catch in the back corner of
Speaker 1: the end zone. Second and goal to go from the fourth.
Speaker 1: They've been wanting the ball well on this drive here
Speaker 1: we go, defends hip hop down to go in the
Speaker 1: fog outside of Dorset to the Gronkowski slot left inside
Speaker 1: of a mandola with white to the left of Brady
Speaker 1: amndola in motion left to the left hatch. Brady takes
Speaker 1: the snap, he backs up a love dark Gronkowski left,
Speaker 1: preaches out, extends makes the ground as he dives to
Speaker 1: the poor lad touchdown. Patriots as they tie Super Bowl
Speaker 1: fifty two picked up Brady seven a little ship me
Speaker 1: with the hips he's filling it certainly is And that
Speaker 1: was a great Gronk spike and who knows, maybe the
Speaker 1: final Gronk spike because after the game, Gronk said he
Speaker 1: needs to think about some stuff about his football football future.
Speaker 1: I guess the injuries and he just suffered a concussion
Speaker 1: that maybe it makes you think about these things. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot we would probably all agree he
Speaker 1: probably will be back. But that's another subplot for the
Speaker 1: Patriots going forward. But Gronk makes a great catch, an
Speaker 1: epic Gronk spike, and now the Patriots are ahead. I
Speaker 1: mean that that drive coming out of the second half
Speaker 1: is the reason why we know he's not retiring. It's
Speaker 1: just like that drive against the Steelers to win the game.
Speaker 1: No one else can do that. He's still on top
Speaker 1: of his game. He's not walking away and give me
Speaker 1: a break. Yeah, it's the rare offseason where he doesn't
Speaker 1: have like a five or six month rehab stint to
Speaker 1: deal with on top of the season, and that I
Speaker 1: applaud uh the Eagles excitement In terms of the fans.
Speaker 1: We congratulate, you know, Colleen Wolfe and John Gonzalez, two
Speaker 1: Eagles greats, having a great time out in the City
Speaker 1: of Gas tonight. But can we calm down on playing
Speaker 1: the Rocky theme and the hockey stuff on third down?
Speaker 1: That was a little bit on my radar. I was like, what,
Speaker 1: what game are we? I saw a lot of other
Speaker 1: people that aren't fans of the team's like tweeting about
Speaker 1: this too. It's like, how are they getting the Eagles
Speaker 1: third down Rocky music? We we are not suffering Patriots exhaustion,
Speaker 1: but we're already tired with the Eagles success. Just like
Speaker 1: this is a neutral side game and we're going Rocky
Speaker 1: on every thirday. Seemed like a Philadelphia home game when
Speaker 1: you got Rocky player, Well it did. Yeah, the fact
Speaker 1: there was like thirty nine thousand Eagles fans also played in.
Speaker 1: But I did enjoy some of Greg Who's you know,
Speaker 1: staring down the barrel of forty. Now, um, you had
Speaker 1: some great old man grumbles during this game. That one
Speaker 1: was one and that was fair. Your other one, I'll
Speaker 1: let you explain it because I I'll give you the
Speaker 1: points on that one as well. Got a year in
Speaker 1: a month and forty for the record. Uh, well, I
Speaker 1: would like and I would just request you know that
Speaker 1: the in stadium entertainment manager to give us thirty seconds
Speaker 1: of quiet every once in a while to talk to
Speaker 1: your neighbor. Do we need I love Cardi B. We
Speaker 1: don't need Cardi B in between every single play and
Speaker 1: and just whatever other entertainment they have in between every commercial.
Speaker 1: You couldn't at no point where they're not playing insanely
Speaker 1: loud things at every second of the game. Your application
Speaker 1: has been accepted. You know Scott Hanson of NFL Network,
Speaker 1: he's a pro, But they had the talking for too
Speaker 1: many a show during the game that was on the loudspeaker,
Speaker 1: and Hansen's got a booming voice and then it's like
Speaker 1: bang loud song, bang sound effect, bang, Rocky clip. It's
Speaker 1: like you're calling the Super Bowl a bit gaudie, a
Speaker 1: bit overproduced. I love what I'm hearing on this issue. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like, this is not Tuesday Night Wolves versus Bucks,
Speaker 1: Like we don't need to generate crowd excitement. It's the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. And while we're here, what's the new old?
Speaker 1: All this hip hop music? That's not music? A singer
Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra, that's music. Good luck at in at this
Speaker 1: super Bowl? Uh? Mark Brady alright, shadowy league figure, can
Speaker 1: we play some Sinatra? Is that cleared? No? No, no,
Speaker 1: Sonatra tonight? Alright? This is yes thirty two? Uh. And
Speaker 1: that's what I said to Greg Up. It's over. The
Speaker 1: only way the Eagles win this game is if they
Speaker 1: managed to pull off what they did on that first
Speaker 1: drive and and but finish it out the way they
Speaker 1: needed to. So they needed to keep their own defense
Speaker 1: off the field because their defense had failed, had failed
Speaker 1: for fifty five minutes of game time, and the Eagles
Speaker 1: and have the drive of the history of the franchise,
Speaker 1: UH fourteen plays seventy five yards and most importantly, with
Speaker 1: Tom Brady unconscious and Gronk spiking and swiveling his hips,
Speaker 1: and getting Zalak all fired up seven minutes of game time,
Speaker 1: and it ends most importantly with this empty four receivers
Speaker 1: player that those phones fins slim touchdown. An embarrassing performance
Speaker 1: by the Patriots entire defense, especially their secondary. I believe
Speaker 1: that was Devin mccorney quarter who got burnt on that play.
Speaker 1: They Pro Football Focus had a tweet at halftime that
Speaker 1: they had missed more tackles in the first half than
Speaker 1: any game they've played since two thousand six. When they
Speaker 1: started tracking miss tackles. It was just an awfully coached game.
Speaker 1: I thought the Patriots were disappointing in their lack of
Speaker 1: fundamentals all around. That's why I do want to hear
Speaker 1: more and more about the Malcolm Butler situation, because when
Speaker 1: whether or not he whatever he did, you're ticketing him
Speaker 1: to start this game, and suddenly the other players say
Speaker 1: after that was not the plan for him not to
Speaker 1: be on there, That throws things out of the loop.
Speaker 1: If suddenly one of us vanished today and wasn't doing
Speaker 1: the show and wasn't doing their job, it's like it
Speaker 1: kind of changes the whole afternoon. The biggest compliment I
Speaker 1: can give the Eagles is that they're so well coached
Speaker 1: that by the time you get to the end this
Speaker 1: season with Nick Foles on our center, this drive encapsulated
Speaker 1: that they look no different to me than when Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz was the quarterback. That's good coaching and and I
Speaker 1: don't know if some of it was coaching, certainly. I
Speaker 1: think Eric Row, for instance, ended up playing pretty well.
Speaker 1: Patrick Chung goes out with an injury in the second
Speaker 1: had a really good second half, I do, but the
Speaker 1: first half matters, right, he got picked on him. I
Speaker 1: think overall he he made plays in Jeffrey made a
Speaker 1: couple of plays against him too, but Batamosi and Jordan Richards,
Speaker 1: and you had certain matchups like Marquis Flowers on Corey
Speaker 1: Clement and different matchups that the Eagles offense was able
Speaker 1: to orchestrate. Was a great job by the coaches, But
Speaker 1: to me, it comes down to players. We talked about
Speaker 1: coaches so much. Those miss tackles are kind of on
Speaker 1: the Patriots players and a lot of these plays. As
Speaker 1: much as the matchup was great, foals on that drive
Speaker 1: was so great, and especially that fourth down play I
Speaker 1: really stands out to me. I think that it's gotten
Speaker 1: overlooked just in the immediate aftermath. That took a lot
Speaker 1: of guts. They went for fourth and two at their
Speaker 1: own forty five with five maybe even more onions than
Speaker 1: the play on the goal line if you think about it,
Speaker 1: because if you don't pick that up, the Patriots have
Speaker 1: the ball, they're in scoring position. And on that play,
Speaker 1: Trey Flowers gets immediate pressure. He hits Nick Foles. Foals
Speaker 1: moved in the pocket very well. He had great pocket
Speaker 1: from I don't know he had in the NFC Championship
Speaker 1: game too, But he slides very suddenly completes a two
Speaker 1: yard passed the Arts, who beats Stephon Gilmore, who had
Speaker 1: an incredible game overall, and Gilmore you could tell, was
Speaker 1: really upset after the play, And I thought about that
Speaker 1: that was really a game changing play. That Art's wins
Speaker 1: that matchup, and that Folds kind of makes the play
Speaker 1: on his own. Wasn't in a common sense called by
Speaker 1: Peterson as gutsy as it was on the surface. He
Speaker 1: knew what we all were seeing that the Eagles, if
Speaker 1: they punt that ball away, they probably never get it back.
Speaker 1: So they really just had to get that fourth, fourth down.
Speaker 1: It was it had to have it play and the players,
Speaker 1: the players play. That's that was their mentality the whole game.
Speaker 1: It's super aggressive. And the next place that I think
Speaker 1: it was the very next play after that, was where
Speaker 1: Falls is either on a sprint right or he's scrambling
Speaker 1: to his right and he throws a gorgeous like p
Speaker 1: on the move to Aguilar, who taps his toes and
Speaker 1: gets in before he goes out of bounds Like these
Speaker 1: are these are high level plays to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Have three money completions in a row on that drive,
Speaker 1: and I mean he did it all night and again
Speaker 1: talking to the Philippa, one thing said, we just pound fundamentals.
Speaker 1: We talked about it every single day and when they
Speaker 1: and the one thing that he they coach well that
Speaker 1: when you make a mistake, they quickly find a way
Speaker 1: with their quarterbacks to get over and just stress their fundamentals.
Speaker 1: And it sounds cheesy. It's just sounds like coach speak,
Speaker 1: except we're watching Nick Foles do something that we really
Speaker 1: haven't seen since maybe Joe Flacco had that magical January
Speaker 1: West go ahead. No, I was gonna say so, you know,
Speaker 1: some people believe that Joe name hath sold his soul
Speaker 1: to the devil to win a Super Bowl and the
Speaker 1: Jets are still paying for it. Do you think that
Speaker 1: Nick Foles sold his soul? Because I know you were
Speaker 1: not expecting Folds to do it again in this setting,
Speaker 1: and now he just put together of the two of
Speaker 1: the best games in NFL playoff history. He seems to
Speaker 1: be a hyper religious man, like on a Kirk Cousins level,
Speaker 1: so I would not assume that he sold his soul
Speaker 1: to the devil. But I do think he's about the
Speaker 1: best example we have yet of the fact that you
Speaker 1: cannot separate the quarterback from his coaching staff, surrounding talent,
Speaker 1: and the coaching staffs ability to instill the upmodest confidence
Speaker 1: in a player with their play design, the r p
Speaker 1: o s, with their play calls, the timing of the
Speaker 1: play calls. And Nick Foles, we saw so many coaches
Speaker 1: give up on him. Chip Kelly gave up on him.
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher gave up on him. Andy Reid didn't resign
Speaker 1: him with the Chiefs. I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: coaching staffs. Nick Foles just didn't work well under and
Speaker 1: it didn't always have the best talent, especially with the
Speaker 1: Rams but on this team, I can't say enough about
Speaker 1: that coaching staff. And really, I mean Nick Foles made
Speaker 1: me ekrow a couple of times. Now, he gotta give
Speaker 1: him all the credit in the world for how well
Speaker 1: he's played. Is the fools Wesleyan family line clash that
Speaker 1: seemed to be at the heart of all this is
Speaker 1: that sold to this point, Well, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's never gonna be my favorite quarterback to watch. And
Speaker 1: I would suggest buy or beware for any team who
Speaker 1: thinks he's gonna be like a guy to go trade
Speaker 1: fort for next year. You're not getting Doug Peterson and
Speaker 1: John d Filippo and Frank Reich along with him when
Speaker 1: you sign him. A trade for him, I was thinking
Speaker 1: Carson went to the locker room after the game. He
Speaker 1: kind of had like a I'm about to go weird
Speaker 1: looking to see facing It made me think like he
Speaker 1: was kind of it kind of must be a surreal
Speaker 1: feeling for him to be the centerpiece of this best
Speaker 1: team in the NFC. Go to the background, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, fast forward to the winning's locker
Speaker 1: room in the Super Bowl, and no one is gonna say, oh,
Speaker 1: who's starting next year. Someone did to outside Jeffrey actually
Speaker 1: and he was like, come on, bro, yeah, but I
Speaker 1: understand if he had some like weird thoughts in his head,
Speaker 1: like this is kind of a bittersweet moment because this
Speaker 1: I might never get back to this moment with the
Speaker 1: team and the and the other guy did the understudy
Speaker 1: did it just it's kind of a weird spot for
Speaker 1: you look at that Panthers team from a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. It shows you how hard it is to
Speaker 1: get back to these game games. Even if you play
Speaker 1: at the level Wentz did this season, it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: the team's gonna do it. And they're they're so close
Speaker 1: you can tell Falls and Wins they really get along
Speaker 1: and Folls, you know, more of a veteran than Wentz,
Speaker 1: and and and it still has to be so strange
Speaker 1: for Wins because it's not his moment. Some guy was.
Speaker 1: He was the type of guy who was asking the
Speaker 1: same question at every player, and the question was how
Speaker 1: did Carson Wentz his leadership over the last three weeks,
Speaker 1: like really help out you know, you win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: And and Trey Burton's answer was great. He was like
Speaker 1: he was kind of like, uh, you know, Nick Foles
Speaker 1: just had one of the best games ever. Man, that's
Speaker 1: the guy I'm talking about, kind of like he just
Speaker 1: didn't even want to entertain it. If you have that
Speaker 1: writer got his angle, and it should be said that
Speaker 1: Earth's play. He caught the ball, took two or three
Speaker 1: steps lunch of the end zone, lost possession of the
Speaker 1: ball when he reached over the goal line. And especially
Speaker 1: you know, poor souls like me or thinking, oh, the
Speaker 1: Pats are gonna get a call here. But the old
Speaker 1: rap on the knuckles with hern said, nope, that's a touchdown.
Speaker 1: It's not a Jesse James situation. They Gene Sarator, who
Speaker 1: had a nice game, said he had possession. He began to,
Speaker 1: you know, move up field, so once he dove, losing
Speaker 1: possession of the ball. Okay, touchdown, No conc I liked it.
Speaker 1: With zero evidence that anything has happened at all with Riveron,
Speaker 1: it's we simply haven't been a place He's like catch,
Speaker 1: catch catch, that's a catch, catch catch, that's why a catch.
Speaker 1: And the last thing, since this is the last time
Speaker 1: really Foles had the ball meaningfully and was throwing the ball,
Speaker 1: it is a great reminder of how uncertain all of
Speaker 1: this is and that it's a point football. It's a
Speaker 1: point we I we hammer over and over on this podcast.
Speaker 1: But we had this big discussion, you know, a very
Speaker 1: vociferous debate when car when Carson Wentz got injured, and
Speaker 1: the debate was, can the Eagles possibly win a game
Speaker 1: or two in the playoffs with Nick Foles? Is that
Speaker 1: even humanly possible? And like for the most part, the
Speaker 1: idea was like, no way can Nick? Could they even
Speaker 1: win a game with Nick Foles? And not only that,
Speaker 1: not only did they win a game or two, they
Speaker 1: won the super Bowl in the greatest shootout in NFL
Speaker 1: history over one of the great greatest offenses NFLS three.
Speaker 1: There's just nothing. It's an argument to completely close shop
Speaker 1: on analyzing football. Maybe maybe maybe we pipe down on fictions.
Speaker 1: Predictions are tough, and then no more predictions on this shows.
Speaker 1: Lock it up for the old zeus. Sir, Well, let
Speaker 1: me I have a comment on that, because then we've
Speaker 1: got a little testy on the other show before we
Speaker 1: get into something where people deciding because we're tied now
Speaker 1: at the top, Oh who who has it more? Based
Speaker 1: on this nonsense? This was you called it it went
Speaker 1: your way. We're gonna take that trophy. We're gonna saw
Speaker 1: it right down the middle, and I'll put half on
Speaker 1: your desk, half on mine. That's this is a King
Speaker 1: Solomon riddle. You want to saw it in half, I
Speaker 1: gotta give it to Zuster. Then he loves the trophy
Speaker 1: more than you know. Why why aren't we Why aren't
Speaker 1: we the co champions when we just put it on
Speaker 1: the play that works to all in my trying to
Speaker 1: beat Magnanimous now and say that it was wrong for
Speaker 1: me to be testy on the other show about the
Speaker 1: whole thing. It is a parlor game. We have tied.
Speaker 1: It's how it ends. I'm happy for you and for me, alright.
Speaker 1: And Greg, your attempt to to you know, completely scrap
Speaker 1: the whole thing and try not to win, you almost won.
Speaker 1: So you have to get better at throwing these kind
Speaker 1: of contests, please. I tried to really scrap it with
Speaker 1: the old double lock. You guys are in on in
Speaker 1: on that at the time. And we look forward to
Speaker 1: next season when West will be with us for the
Speaker 1: full season and he could be in it to the
Speaker 1: very end. So that's settled now. The biggest play of
Speaker 1: the biggest defensive play in the history of the Philadelphia Eagles,
Speaker 1: at least in the Super Bowl era. By the way,
Speaker 1: did we say that they? I said at the very
Speaker 1: tip of the show. This is Super Bowl fifty two
Speaker 1: that we watched today. They've never won the Super Bowl before.
Speaker 1: What a momentous moment for Philadelphia sports. I hope that
Speaker 1: city is gonna be okay because it's gonna looking like
Speaker 1: it so far. But yeah, so everyone thinks, everyone and
Speaker 1: their brother and their sister, thank Brady's gonna take the
Speaker 1: ball the down five, score the game winning touchdown. But
Speaker 1: that is not what happens because the Eagles defense, and
Speaker 1: specifically that pass rush, which is so praised throughout the
Speaker 1: season and rightfully so, and then disappeared for fifty five minutes,
Speaker 1: showed up when it mattered most deep in Patriot's territory.
Speaker 1: Brady surveys the defense and takes this down. Tom Stanton,
Speaker 1: he looked up the balls out, the balls out photofit hasn't.
Speaker 1: Burnett comes away with a fun ball. Tom Brady was
Speaker 1: hit from his right sure stunning, stunning because everyone thought
Speaker 1: Brady was gonna go down the field and instead, all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, the Eagles have the ball back and
Speaker 1: they are now on the driver's seat for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I mean, Eagles fans, Patriots fans, writers at the whole
Speaker 1: stadium knows that Tom Brady's the two minute master, that
Speaker 1: that's what he's built his career on, is making a
Speaker 1: science out of the two minute drill. And he didn't
Speaker 1: get a chance to lead it down the field and
Speaker 1: threw very little fault of his own. He couldn't have
Speaker 1: possibly seen Brandon Graham coming on that play. Yeah, came
Speaker 1: pretty quick. He would have. I'm sure he would, you know,
Speaker 1: wish that he could have reacted a little quicker. He
Speaker 1: had such great protection all day. That was just a
Speaker 1: normal for men rush and sometimes it comes down to
Speaker 1: just one play. It's like, Okay, you had a bad
Speaker 1: defensive game, but Brandon Graham beat Shack Mason on that play.
Speaker 1: Jack Mason maybe the best you know, guard on the
Speaker 1: on the Patriots. Graham rushing from the inside, maybe the
Speaker 1: best pure pass rusher on the Eagles. He won that play.
Speaker 1: And that's like, I'm happy for Graham, just getting to
Speaker 1: know him very little over the last few weeks. A
Speaker 1: really likable guy on the team that I think everyone
Speaker 1: really loves and for him to have that moments, well,
Speaker 1: he was downstairs and his little baby, or actually like
Speaker 1: a three or four year old, little cute little girl,
Speaker 1: was singing her little version of Fly Eagles Fly, and
Speaker 1: he was trying to answer questions about that play over
Speaker 1: and over. And what he did pound home was that
Speaker 1: they sought wherever they could one on one matchups. And
Speaker 1: that's exactly what happened. That is, if we kept getting
Speaker 1: one on one matches, we're gonn to finally take Brady
Speaker 1: down at some point. They just never lost faith that
Speaker 1: would happen, and it happened at the most critical time
Speaker 1: in franchise history. The Eagle state aggressive. They ran the ball,
Speaker 1: made Patriots use the time, then they threw the ball incomplete,
Speaker 1: kept the Patriots in business with the time out. Another run,
Speaker 1: and then I think kind of underrated Jake Elliott forty
Speaker 1: six yard field, Well, not a gimme in that spot,
Speaker 1: and it's a difference between a five point game and
Speaker 1: an eight point game, and he drills it. So Elliott,
Speaker 1: who had had a fantastic rookie year, a guy that
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere, UH, finishes off his season UH
Speaker 1: with field gonna make it forty one thirty three, and
Speaker 1: now the Pats have one more chance. Well, and the
Speaker 1: Pats end up blowing the kickoff. That hurt a terrible
Speaker 1: and you mentioned how big that kick was by Elliott.
Speaker 1: The Patriots would have had the ball at with one
Speaker 1: ten left at the thirty five. Instead they have the
Speaker 1: ball at the nine with fifty eight seconds left. And
Speaker 1: that's why, even though the Eagles deserve credit for getting
Speaker 1: pressure on Brady at once, you're at that point, I
Speaker 1: mean that that is an almost possible situation with no
Speaker 1: time out. And one of the reasons they didn't have
Speaker 1: a time out they wasted a time out early in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter on a third down play where the
Speaker 1: ball was the clock was stopped, and that was another
Speaker 1: kind of Unbelichick Unpatriots like this and the play West
Speaker 1: you called it when it happened. But Brady's just like,
Speaker 1: give me the ball, give it. Let's get on the
Speaker 1: twenty five guard and give me the ball. Instead, they
Speaker 1: try to get cute with a trick play, and not
Speaker 1: only does it get brought down at the nine, it
Speaker 1: costs you about you know, eight ten seconds. I think
Speaker 1: that's something I picked up from Romo. At one point
Speaker 1: this year, he said, Ask any veteran quarterback and they'll say,
Speaker 1: don't do anything tricky on the kickoff. Don't dance around.
Speaker 1: Just give me the ball at the tent and let
Speaker 1: me take it from there. Don't get me stuck with
Speaker 1: my back against the end zone. So Brady gets into
Speaker 1: a fourth and long situation, completes a pass, gets the
Speaker 1: ball up around midfield. But now he has no time
Speaker 1: outs and the clocks against some nine seconds to play. Uh.
Speaker 1: He evades pressure. Uh, and let's hear the call one
Speaker 1: more time, this from the team Zolak uh w e I.
Speaker 1: The final play of Super Bowl fifty two, Tom takes
Speaker 1: the Now he's pressured, he moves up, he slips the rush,
Speaker 1: he steps to his right, he loads up, He throws
Speaker 1: deep downfield. Rock is there at the gold line. Call
Speaker 1: it's up in the air. Bet it around and it's incomplete,
Speaker 1: And the Photolphi Eagles, for the first time in their history,
Speaker 1: are Super Bowl champions. What is this place? They call
Speaker 1: it the New England. Why are the inhabitants so pleased
Speaker 1: with themselves? They are known as the people of the Zolac.
Speaker 1: Their loutish behavior as indigenous to the region. I see,
Speaker 1: I command you to destroy them all as you wish, Lord, Lord, Yes,
Speaker 1: how about them apples? I don't get your rev goodwill hunting.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yep ha ha ha ha. Now destroy them
Speaker 1: as you wish, Lord, speaking of pleased like yourself. He
Speaker 1: held it for as long as he could, that one
Speaker 1: in the chamber, and it got to use it. What
Speaker 1: a beautiful super Bowl. Sunday recorded it, thinking, probably won't
Speaker 1: be using this. We didn't know. I missed the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl post Super Bowl shows where we didn't have drops.
Speaker 1: I think it was good, just the four of us talking.
Speaker 1: Those days are gone, my friend h So there you go.
Speaker 1: The Eagles are the Super Bowl champions. I went on
Speaker 1: the field after the game, and just as luck would
Speaker 1: have it, I ran into a good friend of ours,
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf, with tears in her eyes, emotional. Gave her
Speaker 1: a hug, and then I asked her if I could
Speaker 1: you know ask her a couple of questions. I'm here
Speaker 1: on the field with a teary eyed Colleen Wolf. The
Speaker 1: Eagles are Super Bowl champions. Your thoughts. This is embarrassing
Speaker 1: and I don't know what to say, but I just
Speaker 1: didn't snow angel or a con petty angel on the
Speaker 1: field and oh my god, as soon as say when
Speaker 1: I just busted out ugly crying and I don't even
Speaker 1: know what to do with my sold right now? Where
Speaker 1: is where does this rank in the patheon of sports moments?
Speaker 1: Where Colleen wolf number one? Like, not even a question.
Speaker 1: This is the best and this is the best day
Speaker 1: ever that ever happens ever have anything else you'd like that? Um,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't normally say go Eagles, but they want this
Speaker 1: is crazy. I don't even know what to do. That
Speaker 1: was a really nice movement moment with Connie and then
Speaker 1: I'm walking off the field. Andrew Howard who works on
Speaker 1: the third floor, another good guy, uh and Eagles fan
Speaker 1: just standing with tears in his eyes. It's team that
Speaker 1: fan base, I mean, I mean and the Eagles fans.
Speaker 1: Some some Eagles fans maybe aren't sweethearts, but the ones
Speaker 1: that we know, especially in our company, good people that
Speaker 1: never got this moment, so you can see how how
Speaker 1: it affects them. There is John Gonzalez tweeted out because
Speaker 1: he was at the game with Colleen who you know,
Speaker 1: the whole rigamarrele. Yeah, we don't have the sound clip. Yes,
Speaker 1: so their friend, though Christen Jasport Marks twelve is an
Speaker 1: American sports writer, was married. John resides in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: with his wife and two dogs. Sucked In their friend
Speaker 1: one of Colleen's friends from Philadelphia. He tweeted out this
Speaker 1: video and I'm sure she could. She couldn't be anything
Speaker 1: more than please that it's out there. But she just
Speaker 1: breaks down in tears uncontrolled. It's like when you see
Speaker 1: someone who hasn't seeing their veteran husband or wife come
Speaker 1: back from like Afghanistan after four years. I mean, she
Speaker 1: utterly lost it, and it's like, I totally get it.
Speaker 1: We were talking about this downstairs, dan As Jets and
Speaker 1: Browns fans or any fan of any team that's never
Speaker 1: been there. You cannot imagine the feeling. No, I can't,
Speaker 1: And I said that to Colleen. I just would be
Speaker 1: amazing to just have this feeling. So I was happy
Speaker 1: for but it makes you think, hey, if that happens
Speaker 1: to the Eagles, why of course? Why not? Why not?
Speaker 1: And that that moment listening to Colleen was one of
Speaker 1: the best moments I think we've ever had in the
Speaker 1: history of this podcast, and it's one reason as a
Speaker 1: Patriots fan, We've had it pretty good, and I think
Speaker 1: this loss will get more annoying. I'm sure personally after
Speaker 1: I leave and see some you know, during the week
Speaker 1: and think about it. But Patriots have had enough, you know.
Speaker 1: I'd rather them have made it to their eighth Super
Speaker 1: Bowl and lose this one than not have made this game.
Speaker 1: And they they got beat by a better team tonight,
Speaker 1: and the Eagles fans deserve it, and the Eagles, this
Speaker 1: Eagles team deserved it, and they get there, they get
Speaker 1: their moment. I think the peak of sports and the
Speaker 1: peak of fandom is when they generate unbridled joy, and
Speaker 1: the Patriots weren't generating unbridled joy like to the extent
Speaker 1: that the Eagles winning their first Lombardi Trophy would. All right, boys,
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Speaker 1: the props. We'll start with Chris Wessling. First, you went
Speaker 1: four and four for the game. Uh, Patriots score a
Speaker 1: first quarter touchdown? No? Once again. They've been in eight
Speaker 1: Super Bowls now, Uh, five wins, three defeats. They have
Speaker 1: never scored a touchdown the first court. To me, it's
Speaker 1: just custom, especially in this game where you need to
Speaker 1: flew too close to the sun. I should have just
Speaker 1: went with they'll break their streak of not so. Weren't
Speaker 1: at all in the first quarter, but I didn't think
Speaker 1: I could reel you guys. It's a delicate balance and
Speaker 1: I think it's just another example of bad coaching in
Speaker 1: New England and maybe it's time for a change. What's
Speaker 1: freshen things up in New England? Please? Also, you had
Speaker 1: your al Michael's or Chris Collins will use the word
Speaker 1: goat when reverencing Tom Brady. I didn't get any tweets
Speaker 1: other than one jokey ones And it didn't matter anyway,
Speaker 1: because no one took you up on it. Right, that
Speaker 1: was that was just a complete and utter dud. Chris, Alright,
Speaker 1: this one's remark Sesler who went four and eight ouch ouch.
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan has one hundred and sixty plus receiving yards. Uh,
Speaker 1: this one costs you four sandwiches. And you know what,
Speaker 1: he came close at a halfway point. He had over
Speaker 1: eighty yards. I think he was about one thirty in
Speaker 1: the third quarter, and then he had a drop, a
Speaker 1: costly drop on the Patriots last drive that probably would
Speaker 1: have put him right on the cusp or over, but
Speaker 1: it didn't work out. Tough loss. I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a pretty good instinct because he only had twenty
Speaker 1: four yards combined in the previous two games, and you
Speaker 1: if you had just said, you know, dred and twenty
Speaker 1: we probably would Ultimately I lost four sandwiches, so absolutely,
Speaker 1: and it was unfortunately Brandon Cook's injury I think made
Speaker 1: Hogan even bigger part of the game but didn't work out.
Speaker 1: Here is your other probably playing Super Bowl fifty two,
Speaker 1: receives a nickname and tops the helmet catch. No, that
Speaker 1: didn't happen. It didn't happen, cost you four more sandwiches.
Speaker 1: How about the little reckless yeah that's been used? I
Speaker 1: think I lost that too. About Philly special worth than
Speaker 1: one catch by Nick Foles, I don't think that that's
Speaker 1: not getting the helmet Jack Greg Rosenthal. A six and
Speaker 1: four record by Greg, because you got Nick Foles throws
Speaker 1: for over three hundred yards. In fact, this was the
Speaker 1: only one anyone got right about this predictions Dan Mark
Speaker 1: and west All took you on on that. I believe
Speaker 1: in you, Nick Foles, and that true. And if you
Speaker 1: just would have had a more like logical second one,
Speaker 1: maybe you would have cleaned up. But yet that was
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson will fail on a terrible challenge, and that
Speaker 1: costs you four sangwiches. Believed him. Huh, he really spent
Speaker 1: a bit on that one. The old zeusser when five
Speaker 1: and six Tom Brady win Super Bowl V win Super
Speaker 1: Bowl MVP, you got the field close. Only Patrick took
Speaker 1: me on that. Uh, and uh he gets the sandwich there.
Speaker 1: You know Dan's living well when he doesn't even lose
Speaker 1: sandwiches on on that and zach Ertz and Nelson Aguilar
Speaker 1: combined for at least a hundred and sixty yards. I
Speaker 1: believe it was very close. I think it was in
Speaker 1: the range of one hundred and fifty. But I fell short.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm gonna live with it because
Speaker 1: the Patriots lost the Super Bowl today, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: get too greedy. And finally, the big winner, the big winner,
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick finishes six and two. Uh Dion Lewis will
Speaker 1: have more rushing yards than le Garrett Blunt and j A.
Speaker 1: G I. He lost two sandwiches there, and then Dan
Speaker 1: Hansis will not break news post game. I don't think
Speaker 1: I broke news. As the lights go out at US
Speaker 1: Bank Stadium, it's time for us to go. But I
Speaker 1: did get that exclusive with Connie Fox. But exclusive is
Speaker 1: not the same as breaking news. I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: outside of this podcast is going to count that as news. Well,
Speaker 1: I lost the sandwich here, so I'm in the business
Speaker 1: of trying to get you back into the conversation that
Speaker 1: you did break news. Some help. That's something going here
Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, he does a great job. Nick Fortier,
Speaker 1: he has this one still open, so maybe he's waiting
Speaker 1: to see how we come down on it. So there
Speaker 1: you go. That's it. Another season, gentlemen, is in the
Speaker 1: books if you could believe it. I think is our
Speaker 1: fifth super Bowl show. Uh, the night of the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: It's an honor working with you boys. Isn't it a
Speaker 1: tradition that we do one big takeaway from the super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Before you guys do want to take away? I have
Speaker 1: a presentation of sorts. Okay, where do you go while
Speaker 1: I get this? Uh? Hang in one second, you guys
Speaker 1: win over your your locks. And we discussed before we
Speaker 1: left for the super Bowl. Yeah, a potential trophy from
Speaker 1: the listeners that's going to be waiting for us in California,
Speaker 1: which it is right, But before we get that, we
Speaker 1: have one that I had specially made just for the winner,
Speaker 1: along with the proper engraving plates. So let me get
Speaker 1: it for you guys. Wow, what what is uh? Lindsay,
Speaker 1: fulltown has got something cooking? Did you bring the saw
Speaker 1: for Mark to sell it? In half? Now we resolved
Speaker 1: that one peacefully, as everyone is now aware. Lindsay now
Speaker 1: crawling under a table keeps her balance. Very impressive work. Now,
Speaker 1: she's throwing a chair being opened and outcomes. Look at this. Oh,
Speaker 1: a gorgeous wow. Okay, okay, it's a and for the listeners,
Speaker 1: it is a gorgeous trophy. Mark, I'll let you hold
Speaker 1: on to it for now. This is beautiful. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: take a photo with it. But a lock trophy that
Speaker 1: celebrates our first ever full season. Uh, not the most
Speaker 1: successful season in terms of success, but it was fun,
Speaker 1: as it always is on this podcast. So I've been
Speaker 1: feeling differently about that high thing. This looks very good
Speaker 1: at it looks that's one of the better looking trophies
Speaker 1: I've seen. It's really nice job, Lindsay and whoever else
Speaker 1: was part of that. Yes, so there you go. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, I don't know do we have time to
Speaker 1: Why don't we save our takeaways? West Let me just
Speaker 1: throw in one quick. Here's what I've learned the Patriots
Speaker 1: have taught us in their eight Super Bowl appearances. Same
Speaker 1: thing the Eatgles taught us this year. NFL comes down
Speaker 1: to a few key plays in almost every single game.
Speaker 1: The key is to get there. The Eagles could have
Speaker 1: lost in the opening round of the playoffs against or
Speaker 1: on the second round on Julio Jones's play. I guess
Speaker 1: season New England are defined by a few plays in
Speaker 1: all of these games. The important thing is to get
Speaker 1: there eight times, and that's how you build your legacy.
Speaker 1: But this is another one that came down to just
Speaker 1: a few plays, and that's how you win in the NFL.
Speaker 1: That's how they got That's how they got to buy
Speaker 1: I mean that that's why Carson Wentz is such a
Speaker 1: big part of it. I mean, they put themselves in position.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Nick Fole is gonna win three
Speaker 1: games on the road in the playoffs, but he won
Speaker 1: these two and then he just scorched the Patriots. Just
Speaker 1: get there, all right. Greg still has not processed what
Speaker 1: happened today. I'm I'm looking forward to your your tape
Speaker 1: study when it really sets in. I'm definitely not doing
Speaker 1: any tapes any Uh. We are now going to go
Speaker 1: back and have one, uh maybe a couple more drinks
Speaker 1: to Fridays if they'll have us, and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: get on a plane and and get out of town.
Speaker 1: Who has been great all the people that we met,
Speaker 1: the listeners. Uh here in Minneapolis, great people, friendly people,
Speaker 1: Mark Minnesota, nice even yeah, I was mocked for suggesting
Speaker 1: that on the last show, and I'm sticking to it.
Speaker 1: I think they're mostly very kind from what I'll agree
Speaker 1: with you, and that I was openly it was a
Speaker 1: bit of a showy moment by you. It was, and
Speaker 1: it didn't exactly Uh, it seemed a little bit fake
Speaker 1: on my parts. But no, everyone was really nice here
Speaker 1: and we and we enjoyed it a lot and enjoyed
Speaker 1: the stadium. This is a great facility. But that's it.
Speaker 1: That's the season, if you believe in. Another one in
Speaker 1: the books for the Around the NFL podcast. So until
Speaker 1: later this week when we mark the off season begins.
Speaker 1: Now it's you and Mexico with your legs up and
Speaker 1: the big old dakery. It's it's coming. We're officially past
Speaker 1: midway of the season, would you Okay, Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: we've got we've we've crossed that midway threshold at this point.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get out of here. We've done enough
Speaker 1: time here at the US Bank Stadium, and that's it.
Speaker 1: Dan Hans is signing off for the Quiet Storm co
Speaker 1: champion of the Lock Trophy. The Mailman, uh, the old Boss,
Speaker 1: Lindsay fault On loose cannon behind the glass until Thursday.
Speaker 1: S