Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast is jealous of Mark's Mexican vacation.
Speaker 1: Welcome back, So with another addition to the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas, and I'm joined
Speaker 1: by a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: and oh my goodness, she's back. Don't call it a comeback,
Speaker 1: Lindsay Rhodes. Hey, Dan, I've had multiple I've had multiple
Speaker 1: listeners over the last week. Actually, d M me when
Speaker 1: I was in a real conversation with about like, oh, so,
Speaker 1: when are you going on this Mexico trip? Is like,
Speaker 1: it is an utter lie. I am never going into Mexico.
Speaker 1: What do you mean? It's the off season now, you
Speaker 1: got you got your feet in the sand, you got
Speaker 1: your little wigglies wigglies in the same I mean, it's
Speaker 1: all injection. It's just you're wishing it on me. And
Speaker 1: I appreciate the concept, but it will not be happening.
Speaker 1: I'll be happy to volunteer to take Mark's place as
Speaker 1: one going on excursions all off. I mean, this super
Speaker 1: bowls over. So this is as we can tell from
Speaker 1: this week. Obviously, we are now down shifting into a
Speaker 1: really easy time in the NFL calendar. Meanwhile, was that
Speaker 1: person on Twitter like casing your house in this conversation?
Speaker 1: I don't know? And are you going? How long are
Speaker 1: you going for? It? Wasn't Is everyone in your family
Speaker 1: going with you? That's fair. It's time for our family
Speaker 1: to be robbed. We've been here long enough and there's
Speaker 1: been no If there's been no incidents of that, you
Speaker 1: can take some of the material objects out of my house, please, Mark.
Speaker 1: Mark balked immediately at your contention that this is an
Speaker 1: easy time of year. I know. I was trying to
Speaker 1: instigate Mark a reaction out of him. Did not succeed,
Speaker 1: only an I roll h. Mark, You, speaking of possessions,
Speaker 1: you lost your bag in Minnesota or somewhere in the world,
Speaker 1: and a lot of your hot new clothes that you
Speaker 1: would part all of them outside of this shirt, it's
Speaker 1: the only shirt. I have. Just answer me one question.
Speaker 1: Did they did not take from you your fancy hot
Speaker 1: jeans with all the holes in them? That's right now?
Speaker 1: My only my two other pairs of jeans that I
Speaker 1: wear and the other like tan pants that I got
Speaker 1: are gone. Six shirts are gone, All underwear and socks
Speaker 1: are gone. Outside of like the most backup version of
Speaker 1: that garment. That's disturbing. Yeah, you're down to your fourth
Speaker 1: string quarterback in most of your clothes. It's it is obnoxious.
Speaker 1: I thought I'd beat the system because I took a
Speaker 1: later flight and gained like eight gift cards. I thought,
Speaker 1: I've totally I've beaten Delton entirely and in the end
Speaker 1: need to use that to buy your clothes. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's utterly absurd. That's that's life. Isn't that life?
Speaker 1: But the Jenes to me was the jeans purchase was
Speaker 1: the breakout purchase of your uh, your clothes horse phase
Speaker 1: that you're going through, and that fact that you still
Speaker 1: have your fancy holes jeans. I'm very excited. This is
Speaker 1: actually a three year old purchase that I rediscovered and
Speaker 1: put back into the lineup. Now it is fully in
Speaker 1: the lineup, and Lindsay we it's been a while since
Speaker 1: you've been It's been too long. Last off season earlier,
Speaker 1: I think, so I've missed you guys. It's it's not
Speaker 1: the same without you. But now that the Sason's over,
Speaker 1: Lindsay's back with us, and it's a great show to
Speaker 1: be back. I don't remember I don't remember the last time.
Speaker 1: Uh that the week after the Super Bowl produced so
Speaker 1: much news. Oh my gosh, I mean poor Eagles. Well, hey,
Speaker 1: we have a day and someone's like ground out exactly.
Speaker 1: Rosenthal picks this week. Mr Greg Rosenthal of NFL Media
Speaker 1: picks this week to take a vacation. And I got
Speaker 1: a feeling he's actually in my luggage. I have a
Speaker 1: feeling he wishes he was here to talk. Because we
Speaker 1: got a big parade, we got a big quarterback deal,
Speaker 1: and yes, big big drama surrounding the Colts and the Patriots.
Speaker 1: So let's get to It's so much to get to.
Speaker 1: Mark's ready. Once he gets his bag back, you are
Speaker 1: hitting the road. You're going down to Mexico. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get that peanut Colada that's in the coconut, that one.
Speaker 1: I'll just go with it. At this point, I'd be
Speaker 1: happy to do that. At this point, is just you
Speaker 1: and a stick. The off season is here. Let's do
Speaker 1: some news. The rivalry is back on, is it? Though?
Speaker 1: I don't know our old friend Chris Ballard knows how
Speaker 1: rivalries work. But uh, there's so much to get to here.
Speaker 1: Because Josh McDaniels was supposed to be the Indianapolis Colts
Speaker 1: head coach. We had heard it for weeks and weeks
Speaker 1: and weeks that it was going to happen. Then right
Speaker 1: around the Super Bowl, percolation I call it percolation started
Speaker 1: hearing some things that maybe uh, Josh was getting a
Speaker 1: cold feet. Well, it became official on Tuesday or was
Speaker 1: it Wednesday? Wednesday? Wednesday that McDaniels withdrew from an agreement
Speaker 1: to become the Tuesday Night Tuesday Night, Sorry, thank you, Mark, Uh,
Speaker 1: and we'll remain the Patriots offensive coordinator instead with a
Speaker 1: sweetened deal. Uh. This was a crazy development that stunned
Speaker 1: the to Not only had announced that they had reached
Speaker 1: and reached reached an agreement with McDaniels to be their
Speaker 1: new head coach, they had also scheduled an introductory news
Speaker 1: conference for Wednesday at Lucas Hill Stadium. Jet fans are
Speaker 1: getting flashbacks to Bill Belichick walking out on them on
Speaker 1: the day of the wedding. Uh. Chris Ballard, who's been
Speaker 1: through a lot, had a press conference on Wednesday to
Speaker 1: talk about things. Uh. We'll start with this Mark, and
Speaker 1: then I'll throw it to you because you're a great
Speaker 1: right up on NFL dot com. Uh, how the news
Speaker 1: was delivered to Ballard that McDaniels wasn't coming. He said
Speaker 1: he had bad news for me. I just said, I
Speaker 1: just needed yes or no answer, you in or out. Um.
Speaker 1: We went around for a minute and he said he's out,
Speaker 1: and I said, Okay, we're gonna move forward. I wish
Speaker 1: your best to luck Mark. How do you think Ballard
Speaker 1: handled this? Let's start here reacting to it as a
Speaker 1: crazy thing. Well, I mean, I can't imagine a tougher
Speaker 1: press conference ropped out of the skies where you, you know,
Speaker 1: the owner with you. You simply had to go out
Speaker 1: there on your own and explain what looked like a
Speaker 1: massive snaff foo and Ballard, who has taken heat on
Speaker 1: this show for whatever reason, I thought, handled it as
Speaker 1: well as Henry general manager I've watched do anything in
Speaker 1: the past year. I mean, he went he went right
Speaker 1: at it head on, answered any question. He took full
Speaker 1: accountability for the fact that he basically told the team
Speaker 1: you can announce the agreement. I feel that good about
Speaker 1: what Josh McDaniels has told me. They had a relationship.
Speaker 1: He took him at his word. Josh McDaniels backed out.
Speaker 1: You know, it's easy to look at the cults and say, well,
Speaker 1: the cults screwed this up or something here. It's just
Speaker 1: the opposite. I think Josh McDaniels obviously was compelled by
Speaker 1: a very strong message out of New England. You stay
Speaker 1: here and you will make sure that the good things
Speaker 1: happen to you, and maybe sooner than later. But from
Speaker 1: the cults angle, Ballard, I wonder if this could be
Speaker 1: a blessing in disguise, because everyone just looks at Josh
Speaker 1: McDaniels said, oh, the next Bill bell A check. Well,
Speaker 1: we have no concept, after what we've seen from him
Speaker 1: as Denver's head coach or what he pulled here, that
Speaker 1: he'd be any better as a head coach than Frank Reich,
Speaker 1: John d Filippo, Dave tab fill in the blank. We
Speaker 1: just don't know. So maybe if anything with that rivalry
Speaker 1: being back on, this was a good move for the cults,
Speaker 1: are a blessing in disguise, I should well, here's a
Speaker 1: Ballard said he was not interested in convincing McDaniels once
Speaker 1: he got that phone call. There was no persuasion. Let
Speaker 1: me make this clear, I want and we want as
Speaker 1: an organization a head coach that wants to be all in.
Speaker 1: We got work to do. I'm not I'm not once
Speaker 1: hit that we have work to do, and I want
Speaker 1: somebody that's a hundred percent committed to partnering with us
Speaker 1: and getting that work done. And Lindsay, the Colts obviously
Speaker 1: now scrambling a requested interviews with our boy, Dan Campbell,
Speaker 1: former Dolphins interim coach back in the day, and Frank
Speaker 1: Reich and Leslie Fraser and Leslie Fraser. So they are now,
Speaker 1: rightfully and they have no other choice scrambling to get
Speaker 1: things set up while every other team has things locked
Speaker 1: in place. Yeah, they're definitely behind the eight ball. I mean,
Speaker 1: we are five weeks away from free agency. I think
Speaker 1: we've got the Combine coming up in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: This is not a position that the team wants to
Speaker 1: be put in. And I don't understand the reaction to
Speaker 1: make fun of the Colts on a national level, Like
Speaker 1: I get the Patriots fans protecting Josh McDaniels and I
Speaker 1: understand that, but the snark that has been directed toward
Speaker 1: the Colts, I don't understand. There's a rule that is
Speaker 1: in place that you can't hire a coach until after
Speaker 1: they're out of the playoffs. So it's all kind of
Speaker 1: wink wink, not not, that's what happens. The Lions did
Speaker 1: it with Patricia. They knew they had their guy, but
Speaker 1: they couldn't make it official. That's what was in place
Speaker 1: with Josh McDaniels. Everything we heard was that they had
Speaker 1: a second interview, and everybody said, oh, but that interview
Speaker 1: is in quotes, because what it really was was a
Speaker 1: planning meeting to make sure all on the same page
Speaker 1: about where to move forward. He reached out to assistant coaches.
Speaker 1: One was already working in the building. There were people
Speaker 1: under contract. Obviously the coach is telling them who to hire.
Speaker 1: It's not like Chris Ballard had any indication as far
Speaker 1: as those things were concerned, that he should be concerned
Speaker 1: that this person who gave him his word that he
Speaker 1: would come be their coach was going to back out
Speaker 1: at the last second. So to suggest that he shouldn't
Speaker 1: have scheduled a press conference to me is crazy. I
Speaker 1: just I think I I understand look if you, if
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, if Josh McDaniels felt like he needed
Speaker 1: to turn the job down at the last second. Then fine,
Speaker 1: you do what's best for you. But in my opinion,
Speaker 1: you need to come forward, put your hand in the air,
Speaker 1: say my bad. I screwed over a lot of people.
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry that this happened. This is what I
Speaker 1: felt like I needed to do. Like there has to
Speaker 1: be ownership of that to a degree. I don't understand
Speaker 1: the finger pointing in the direction of Indianapolis right now,
Speaker 1: and I know that Josh isn't doing that, but I
Speaker 1: think that's well said. And snark is easy, which is
Speaker 1: why is the most popular form of look at me
Speaker 1: with on Twitter. It's it's too easy to be snarky
Speaker 1: if you look deeper, like you said, this is about
Speaker 1: the Patriots, not about the Colts. Josh McDaniel, I don't
Speaker 1: think he got quote feed. He just got convinced. And
Speaker 1: this is this is part of the risk for and
Speaker 1: it's a reminder all teams going forward of putting all
Speaker 1: your eggs in the basket of a team, these teams
Speaker 1: that are involved with the Super Bowl, because if something
Speaker 1: terrible happens, this is the worst case scenario. And it's
Speaker 1: so funny. Right before this news broke, I was watching
Speaker 1: I was going through the d v R. You know,
Speaker 1: you fall behind on your television when you go cover
Speaker 1: the SUP So I gotta get in on the Crown
Speaker 1: H thirty for thirty two bills, something I had been
Speaker 1: looking forward to for a long time, and it it
Speaker 1: almost predicted this because in the eighties, I believe it
Speaker 1: was either mid to late eighties, maybe even early nineties,
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, then under Bill Parcels, was going to take
Speaker 1: a job with the Vikings, I believe it was, and
Speaker 1: parcel said, Hey, if you if you feel like you
Speaker 1: need to do it, do it. But let me tell
Speaker 1: you something. If you to stay, what I can do is,
Speaker 1: you know, start involving you in the behind the scenes
Speaker 1: wheelings and dealings and the responsibilities that come with being
Speaker 1: a head coach. Start to show you what this job
Speaker 1: is really about and maybe eventually you take over for me.
Speaker 1: And that was enough to convince Belichick, uh that he
Speaker 1: should stay because Parcels was such a master. I am
Speaker 1: almost certain that the same thing happened with Belichick and McDaniels,
Speaker 1: where Belichick said, hey, I get it, if you want
Speaker 1: to take that job, it's a great job, but if
Speaker 1: you stay here, you could be my successor, and I'll
Speaker 1: teach you how it works to be a head coach
Speaker 1: at this level. Mike Reece of ESPN reported exactly that
Speaker 1: that Belichick sat him down and said, I will teach
Speaker 1: you the ways of the salary cap, I will teach
Speaker 1: you roster construction, and I will invest in your future
Speaker 1: and and your I think your instincts on that parcels
Speaker 1: to Belichick transition really played out here well. And it
Speaker 1: also obviously involves craft. It's from ownership on down. And
Speaker 1: I'm so probze that hasn't already been happening because McDaniels
Speaker 1: has been under his wing forever. But if if that's
Speaker 1: the case, the message must have been so strong that
Speaker 1: you will take over from me when that happens. And
Speaker 1: I know this probably will not be the case. There's
Speaker 1: a little part of me that still feels like this
Speaker 1: early offseason could contain one more massive bombshell. If Belichick
Speaker 1: is still wondering in the back of his mind if
Speaker 1: he wants to go through this from one more year,
Speaker 1: I think he. I think it's like a chance that
Speaker 1: he will. But now they have that person in place
Speaker 1: to take over when it happens. Here's what I don't understand.
Speaker 1: All of those things that we just discussed could have
Speaker 1: been discussed a month ago. Like it's not like I
Speaker 1: understand that you're focused on a playoff run, but there
Speaker 1: isn't a minute in the late hours at the office
Speaker 1: where you're just putting your feet up and like grabbing
Speaker 1: a cup of coffee to get you through the midnight
Speaker 1: hours where you could say, Hey, can I have five
Speaker 1: minutes year's time? Could we kind of get on the
Speaker 1: same page here, I'm about to make a massive commitment,
Speaker 1: let's discuss That's the part that I don't understand. I'm
Speaker 1: kind of mad on behalf of the Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: it's not it's how the Patriots operate, and they the
Speaker 1: way it was presented to the public, it seems that
Speaker 1: everything was on the back burner. It was all about
Speaker 1: the playoffs in the super Bowl, which makes sense. On
Speaker 1: one one, it's believable. But on the other hand, there
Speaker 1: is this huge life decision and there are other people involved,
Speaker 1: all those guys that are under contract with the Colts
Speaker 1: now who don't know who their bosses. Uh, there's been
Speaker 1: indications I guess that those guys, including a defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: will remain with the team regardless of who the cults higher.
Speaker 1: But it's just such a big mess, and it's during
Speaker 1: such a tough time for the Colts. Edwin Jackson, their
Speaker 1: linebacker was tragically killed and a d u i um
Speaker 1: accident um super Bowl weekend. Andrew Luck status is still
Speaker 1: so up in the air with his shoulder, although Ballard
Speaker 1: did say mark that there won't be um more surgery,
Speaker 1: but we're we've heard well, he said that, not hearing
Speaker 1: the doctors say that that Andrew Luck needs surgery. That
Speaker 1: still feels like whoever inherits that job is in for
Speaker 1: like season months of having to answer Andrew Luck questions
Speaker 1: and on the on the Jackson front, he basically opened
Speaker 1: the press conference sing, I know about about Ballard opened
Speaker 1: the press conference, and I know what we're gonna talk.
Speaker 1: How is a tough situation for the cults, but this
Speaker 1: whole weekend was a lot tougher than having a coach
Speaker 1: walk away from us. He said, we'll figure that part out.
Speaker 1: The first parts of very tough. And what stood out
Speaker 1: to me too, every time he talked about Edwin Jackson,
Speaker 1: he mentioned Jeffrey Monroe, who was the Uber driver who
Speaker 1: was also killed by that drunk driver. And I thought
Speaker 1: just the human aspect of that really touched me, because
Speaker 1: obviously Edwin Jackson's name has been used to politicize the situation.
Speaker 1: It's being used because he's the famous person. But Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Monroe's life is no less valuable, and I I I
Speaker 1: had a great deal of respect for Chris Ballart for
Speaker 1: the way that he included him. I think that tells
Speaker 1: you something about Chris Ballard from from the Patriots angle.
Speaker 1: Just real quick though, they go from losing both coordinators,
Speaker 1: O line, coach special teams, coach one of their quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: coach Shoos possibly Gronk to retirement. All of that was
Speaker 1: in play as of Tuesday afternoon, and now all of
Speaker 1: it could be returning to New England just to reload
Speaker 1: for another Super Bowl run. Right, But you've got Brian
Speaker 1: Flores as a guy who's likely to be elevated, and
Speaker 1: it is highly respected, already getting head coaching interviews. To me,
Speaker 1: it looked like on Tuesday we could be saying goodbye
Speaker 1: to the Patriots dynasty, and now it looks like more
Speaker 1: of the same for next year. I think it's still over.
Speaker 1: I think say we're in a new chapter. There's no
Speaker 1: doubt about that. And if you're Josh McDaniels, there's no
Speaker 1: doubt that that's a new child. Because Tom Brady is not.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna play for six more years.
Speaker 1: You might get the later stage of Tom Brady. You're
Speaker 1: gonna lose Belichick. It stuck about a gradual decline. Good
Speaker 1: for you. I think I just threw gradual organizational changes
Speaker 1: way to grab your spot on Tom versus time next year.
Speaker 1: There we go. I just said everyone, Romeo, Cornell, Eric Man, Jennie,
Speaker 1: Charlie Wise, Josh McDaniels the first time he was a
Speaker 1: head coach, which is an utter disgraceful head coaching job
Speaker 1: by him in Denver. These guys don't leave New England
Speaker 1: and automatically become Bill Belichick. Two point oh and one
Speaker 1: last fun little nug Bob LaMonte who is the agent
Speaker 1: or was the agent of Josh McDaniels. Publicly, Hey didn't
Speaker 1: mega he wanted he turned this into a show, uh
Speaker 1: to to pump up the LaMonte brand. I guess first
Speaker 1: All tells her own Mikey Garret Folo that he had
Speaker 1: terminated the relationship um uh, and let it be known
Speaker 1: that he thought it was perhaps the biggest biggest professional
Speaker 1: mistake of his career, McDaniel's career by backing out of
Speaker 1: that Colt steal so late. And then he gave a
Speaker 1: quote to Garret Folo, my word is my bond? What's
Speaker 1: you break that? There's whatever bad it? He also represents
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard. Yeah, so there was the Monte heat on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Greg got it really fired up on Twitter. Is like
Speaker 1: all the times he ever leaked? How dare he be sanctimonious?
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. Yeah, I asked for more of it,
Speaker 1: didn't get it. Greg. Back to vacation, all right. So
Speaker 1: that's what's going on. The other big news, and this
Speaker 1: was involves the Patriots on some level. A former Patriot,
Speaker 1: at least jim A g Jimmy Garoppolo traded in the
Speaker 1: middle of last season for a second round pick from
Speaker 1: the Pats to the forty Niners, eventually took over the
Speaker 1: starting job at the end of San Francisco season went
Speaker 1: five and oh, um, you know, comeback wins, great throws,
Speaker 1: great physical looks. Attraction. A lot of the men in
Speaker 1: this studio attracted on a on a strange level. Jimmy J.
Speaker 1: You know it's got those dark features. I just like
Speaker 1: handsome guy, handsome guy. Fort niners. They're attracted to Jimmy J.
Speaker 1: I don't know how, but I will tell you. Financially,
Speaker 1: they decided to keep him around five year deal worth
Speaker 1: one d and thirty seven point five million. According to
Speaker 1: Mikey Garoffolo, Um, you know why did there, which is
Speaker 1: so you cannot put Garoppolo and Garafolo in the same center.
Speaker 1: That's just missing with pronunciation. Stuck doing that today and
Speaker 1: it's uh, you should not he should not be Garafolo
Speaker 1: should not be allowed to report on Garoppolo. I agree,
Speaker 1: pass it off for the rest of us. And then
Speaker 1: Janine Garoppolo or what's your name. Yeah, she's been on
Speaker 1: the pop culture grid for literally like twenty four years
Speaker 1: and now I am still like dealing with that and
Speaker 1: now you got Garoppolo in the mix. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: too much? Ain't right? Anyway, Jimmy G got paid. The
Speaker 1: deal is the largest in NFL history on an average
Speaker 1: per year basis. Stafford uh Met Stafford held the mark
Speaker 1: of twenty seven million per year. Uh Garafolo, Garoppolo, Garofolo Jimmy,
Speaker 1: gimmy his deal average twenty seven point five million, lindsay,
Speaker 1: that's probably going to be quickly blown away. Is number
Speaker 1: one by some of these other hotshots coming up down
Speaker 1: the including Kark Cousins and Aaron Rodgers and so on.
Speaker 1: But are you surprised that he got top of the
Speaker 1: line franchise star money. No, because he's clearly their franchise
Speaker 1: quarterback right now. I mean, I know it's a very
Speaker 1: small sample size, but and he looked so good and
Speaker 1: he made the team so much better in ways that
Speaker 1: are even subtle, like the defense was playing better. Uh.
Speaker 1: And and people who do actually know what they're seeing
Speaker 1: on like myself David Carr was saying he's making throws
Speaker 1: out there, that there are only a couple of quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the league that can make those throws. And so
Speaker 1: when you have people who actually know the quarterbacking position
Speaker 1: look at him and say, like, this is not smoking mirrors,
Speaker 1: He is the real deal. And yes, it's a small
Speaker 1: sample size, but the what they're seeing leads them to
Speaker 1: believe that he will continue to look like this in
Speaker 1: the future. Um, I think you have to pay him
Speaker 1: like he's a franchise quarterback, and that's the going right.
Speaker 1: There was so much outrage on Twitter from some pockets
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're watching that he got paid
Speaker 1: by this, but you already have from Bill Belichick in
Speaker 1: the entire Patriots coaching staff that they felt this way
Speaker 1: about him. Had had the situation been different, they would
Speaker 1: have paid in this throw Kyle Shanahan and the forty
Speaker 1: Niners organization on top of that, and like you said,
Speaker 1: a bunch of other people around the league that they
Speaker 1: don't need a hundred and seventy games to figure out
Speaker 1: you pay this guy. The cap situation Number one is
Speaker 1: this is not two thousand and eleven. You can pay
Speaker 1: these people. We knew he was gonna get paid. He
Speaker 1: barely eclipsed Stafford. He's gonna get eclipse quickly by Cousins.
Speaker 1: Three years from now. The steal will look like a
Speaker 1: total steal, because he will be a Super Bowl participant
Speaker 1: by then, maybe even more than once. I don't doubt
Speaker 1: it at all. They can. They will turn that team
Speaker 1: around that quickly. What he did in the course of
Speaker 1: one season for the forty Niners, how often do you
Speaker 1: see a quarterback step in and do that from a
Speaker 1: team that was ravering towards the first pick in the
Speaker 1: draft to the closing out with four or five straight wins.
Speaker 1: They were one and eleven and then they went five
Speaker 1: and oh and Jimmy G had the highest drive success
Speaker 1: rate of any quarterback in the NFL. That's my favorite
Speaker 1: offensive statistic of drives with Jimmy G ended in a touchdown,
Speaker 1: ended in a score. The Patriots led the league at
Speaker 1: for the entire season. That's insane rate. And the same
Speaker 1: Lemmings who are outraged were the ones who were calling
Speaker 1: Jimmy G Matt Castle because you have to compare every
Speaker 1: backup with the Patriots to every other backup Jimmy G.
Speaker 1: I mean, fans have been conditioned by sports with guaranteed
Speaker 1: contracts like baseball and basketball to question all these mega deals.
Speaker 1: When's the last NFL team that regretted paying a franchise quarterback?
Speaker 1: You can get out of it after two years. No,
Speaker 1: the Bengals didn't regret paying Dalton, the Chiefs didn't reget
Speaker 1: regret paying Alex Smith. The forty Niners got out of
Speaker 1: Kaepernick after a couple of even two years was a
Speaker 1: law for brock Oswiler. But yes, you all right after two. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's the rare example and there and they're they're free
Speaker 1: of it. But I mean, what is the other option?
Speaker 1: You found this guy? You got you You're the team
Speaker 1: that somehow got him for a second round pick exactly,
Speaker 1: so you followed through. There was literally not a single
Speaker 1: person inside the organization we're gonna do anything but signs.
Speaker 1: It's it's a fair deal. It would be. It would
Speaker 1: be like if the bank just gave you all of
Speaker 1: its diamonds. Yeah, you don't even have to go in
Speaker 1: under the leaders. The banks just like here, take them.
Speaker 1: You don't have to do the Catherine zettag in that
Speaker 1: bad nineties movie. Every year there's always a workaholic teams
Speaker 1: that go from worst to first to Philadelphia Eagles are
Speaker 1: the best example of that this year. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that the Niners are gonna end up in the super
Speaker 1: Bowl next year or that they're gonna win it, but
Speaker 1: they're the easiest pick to go from work first and
Speaker 1: they're in a tough division. So I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: that's going to be necessarily that they will be first,
Speaker 1: but they are the most obvious choice. Well, they started
Speaker 1: that journey, you know, with a month to go last season,
Speaker 1: you've already seen it on paper, and they'll continue to build.
Speaker 1: I mean, they still have high draft pick Scholore and
Speaker 1: you don't have to make it. You don't have to
Speaker 1: swing for the fences on Sam Donald or Josh Rosen
Speaker 1: or Baker Mayfield. That's why it's it's a perfect situation.
Speaker 1: Hope walked in the room the second that trade happened, Mark,
Speaker 1: and there's hope for you and I. When you look
Speaker 1: at Garoppolo and you look the Niners, you get a
Speaker 1: good quarterback in there. Everything changed everything immediately, and that's
Speaker 1: what happened with the Niners. Matt Patricia. We brought it
Speaker 1: up before introduced as the new head coach of the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lines. A little bit. I liked a little bit
Speaker 1: of a panash from our friend. We haven't seen a
Speaker 1: head coach put the pencil behind the year since when
Speaker 1: West pencil behind the ear Tony Sperano, Janine Garoppolos, the
Speaker 1: um No, Mike Tys did it with the vice. I
Speaker 1: always thought he was gonna lose an Eyeballers and Patricia
Speaker 1: famously always get hung up on the big bushy beard
Speaker 1: and those manic eyes. But he always has the pencil
Speaker 1: behind the ear, and he stopped the press conference in
Speaker 1: Detroit and said, hey, I gotta get comfortable, puts the
Speaker 1: pencil behind his ear. Twelve and four Detroit Lions. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he also he made it clear that Jim Bob
Speaker 1: Cooter will be back and then specify that it would
Speaker 1: be the o C but you imagine it will be
Speaker 1: a local reporter leader clarify did and he's not looking
Speaker 1: even though Bob Quinn also Patriots ties not looking to
Speaker 1: reproduce the Patriot way, you know what they're looking to
Speaker 1: do the Lions way. Uh. Finally, will training camp start
Speaker 1: a month later there this year? Yeah, Lindsay, you might
Speaker 1: have missed this one. I know you listened to every episode,
Speaker 1: but um, the Lines were the last to report to camp.
Speaker 1: Greg points out that it was just is all scheduling
Speaker 1: and and they didn't do anything wrong. But all I'm
Speaker 1: saying is you get to camp earlier in eighteen. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's to the playoffs. I think I would have they
Speaker 1: would have been a shoeing for the postseason that kind
Speaker 1: of hung around them psychologically all year. I think Second
Speaker 1: Town really Finally, Malcolm Butler there continues to be you
Speaker 1: know a mystery around why the cornerback who played in
Speaker 1: nineties seven and a half percent of Patriots snaps was
Speaker 1: benched in Super Bowl fifty two. Butler addressed the issue
Speaker 1: in a Twitter post on Tuesday, disputing reports that is
Speaker 1: benching uh was linked to disciplinary action. UH. Here's what
Speaker 1: he said during Super Bowl week. I never attended any concert.
Speaker 1: I went to a couple of concerts, did not see
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler, so that checks out missed curfew, or participated
Speaker 1: in any of the ridiculous activities being reported. They are
Speaker 1: not only false, but hurtful to me and my family
Speaker 1: note and my free agency value. Hadrians are dirty. Although
Speaker 1: I wish I could have contributed more to help my
Speaker 1: team win, I have to get ready for the next opportunity.
Speaker 1: A K. I gon and um. Tom Brady almost immediately
Speaker 1: six minutes after that post wrote, love you Malcolm. You
Speaker 1: are an incredible player and teammate and friend always. Tom
Speaker 1: Brady is just like clicking reform. That was the underrated
Speaker 1: storyline of that story. Does Tom Brady run his own Instagram?
Speaker 1: Like do you think he's sitting there scrolling on his
Speaker 1: phone and he found that or does he have a
Speaker 1: social media team that did it on his behalf. I
Speaker 1: think that got kicked to them though, because that wouldn't
Speaker 1: be news immediately. If they're a good team, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: be like, hey, let's just free let's just sort of freeform.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's response to this radioactive situation, like, you've got
Speaker 1: to realize but Brady has a very active social media
Speaker 1: um wing arm and Uh, my guess is what you're
Speaker 1: saying is somebody's refresh. That's like, Tom, we got a
Speaker 1: hot situation here on we got a situation on the
Speaker 1: i G. Malcolm Butler, someone's job was getting paid for,
Speaker 1: you know, like about four dred thousand dollars a year
Speaker 1: just to refresh Instagram. We got a hot situation here.
Speaker 1: Butler's addressed the controversy. We you said you wanted to
Speaker 1: help out, Malcolm. Uh, this is your chance to respond
Speaker 1: over all, right, And that's what's happening in the news. However,
Speaker 1: we have so much to get to. I can't even
Speaker 1: find my gout papers here. It is that we have
Speaker 1: to bring it back. It's been a while, little odds
Speaker 1: and ends, and I'll tell you what Colleen wolf A
Speaker 1: K Connie Fox's gonna join us later from Philadelphia, where
Speaker 1: she anchored coverage with Kyle Brandt from Philadelphia of the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl parade. She usually handles our odds and ends
Speaker 1: song that gets us into our speed round of news.
Speaker 1: This is what it sounds like when she does okay
Speaker 1: and ends, let's get some mudin ends. Get your oddss
Speaker 1: right here? See why did you put that in my head?
Speaker 1: It's hard not to mimic it when you do, let's
Speaker 1: wipe it away. No, no mimic, but I'll give you
Speaker 1: the lyrical content, odds and ends, odds and ends. Let's
Speaker 1: get your odds and ends. Or you could you know,
Speaker 1: you could like Sinatra how he would throw things in
Speaker 1: like right here. Whatever you want is the spirit of Colleen.
Speaker 1: Should I wrap it? You know we wanted to put
Speaker 1: that on the show, but I think everybody freaked out.
Speaker 1: Cardi b uh Colleen infringement engagement situation. But Colleen did
Speaker 1: a live Cardi b raps or making themercial. We can't
Speaker 1: play it. Shadow League figures don't want us have fun
Speaker 1: around here. Lindsey, all right here we go, um here
Speaker 1: comes to music and then straight into eight o'clock to
Speaker 1: light Lindsey Fulton Lindsay Rhodes. This is your stage. Would
Speaker 1: somebody like to beat box over this? Or I think
Speaker 1: he got the wrong room for this. Well, that's the
Speaker 1: only reason why I would ask if hip hop stud
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenhalls here, maybe like I want you to really
Speaker 1: show off your beat bockings boxing skills. I want you
Speaker 1: to show people how I could try if you want. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, right, Okay, it's your odds and right
Speaker 1: now I like it. There's my that's my Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: What did he say? Patriots out like? No, no, Tom
Speaker 1: nos not you Tom? All right? We gotta get all
Speaker 1: this in. This is the speed round. Gotta be quick
Speaker 1: here hit it. Fulton all right, Chief CEO did not
Speaker 1: want to trade Alex Smith to the Broncos West. What's
Speaker 1: your takeaway on that? There's different schools of thoughts. Mike
Speaker 1: Brown of the Bengals believes you can do interdivision trades
Speaker 1: if you pay a premium for the player. Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: once traded Drew bled So to the Bills within the division.
Speaker 1: It's not unheard of, but I think most people believe
Speaker 1: you don't. You don't help out your division rival. Panthers
Speaker 1: placed in terim GM Marty Herney on paid leave and
Speaker 1: mid an NFL investigation into harassment accusations made against him
Speaker 1: by his former wife. Mike Garifolo reported, a lot of money.
Speaker 1: You think I'm gonna set you up for a top answer? Mark?
Speaker 1: A lot of these around the Panthers right now are Yeah,
Speaker 1: much more to go on that case. I will allow
Speaker 1: them to handle it. Thank you. Rob Gronkowski. He may
Speaker 1: be retiring from football, but he won't be ready to
Speaker 1: just exit. He's not gonna be like Johnny Carson after
Speaker 1: he left at the night shone and disappear on his yacht.
Speaker 1: Wants to be in the public guy. According to the
Speaker 1: North and Over Eagle Tribune, Gronk is considering a career
Speaker 1: in acting. According to the report, Slice Stallone and The
Speaker 1: Rock both told Gronk that he could quote make millions
Speaker 1: in action films. Lindsay he can't even sell the Patriot
Speaker 1: Way with a straight face, like he answers questions like
Speaker 1: he can't not say sixty nine without giggling, Like, how
Speaker 1: in the world is he going to be an actor?
Speaker 1: I can't agree more. What evidence do we have that
Speaker 1: he can act? Well? He was in a movie, don't
Speaker 1: you remember what if this has been a character. Maybe
Speaker 1: he's a true word Smith underneath the reality is a character.
Speaker 1: Check out the trailer on YouTube. You can't have It.
Speaker 1: One of the worst movies I've ever seen in terms
Speaker 1: of a trailer. Hey, Russell Wilson got traded. Can't believe
Speaker 1: we buried this so far in the news. Um it
Speaker 1: was to the Yankees. The Rangers traded his rights to
Speaker 1: the Yankees. Wilson West said that he's always been a
Speaker 1: dream to play for the Yankees, so he'll be at
Speaker 1: spring training. It's like a career to seven hitter in single,
Speaker 1: which is lower than Michael Jordan's was played into baseball
Speaker 1: this guy. I think it's just a gift for social
Speaker 1: media managers that you can put Russell Wilson and Yankees
Speaker 1: in the same section on Twitter and get clicks. I
Speaker 1: think you you nailed that perfect game. My friend, also
Speaker 1: an Eagles fan, stole a seat from US Bank Stadium.
Speaker 1: How is that possible? We were at the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he stole a seat, had included in his carry on
Speaker 1: luggage back to Philly. He got busted for it. He's
Speaker 1: agreed to pay a fee. I believe in the range
Speaker 1: of a thousand to two thousand dollars to pay back.
Speaker 1: They's like the woman who tried to sneak a bag
Speaker 1: of wine in her bra into the game, Like, what
Speaker 1: are these people thinking? Both admi do that although he
Speaker 1: got away with it. First of all, it's it's not yours.
Speaker 1: I like West pointing out the core shoe with robbery. Well,
Speaker 1: look it's yours. Give This guy could also be your
Speaker 1: suitcase scenario. Well, probably what they did was it took
Speaker 1: seven or eight maybe eighteen to twenty suitcase looks suspicious
Speaker 1: and they're all under under a bunker, including this man
Speaker 1: obviously has light fingers. I love the visual of West
Speaker 1: there in the stadium after the game. The guy's going
Speaker 1: out with his chair and he's like, that is not yours. Hey,
Speaker 1: mr man, what are you up to? What's with robbery?
Speaker 1: It's not yours? Just don't take it makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense, greater societal Ill just now we're just getting
Speaker 1: started acting like an adult people. All right, finally, um
Speaker 1: mark one more takeaway on the Marty Herny situation. I
Speaker 1: will be filing some briefs and some reports later on that.
Speaker 1: Check my social media for that. Time's up on that conversation.
Speaker 1: M all right, that's what's happening in the news officially.
Speaker 1: All right, so and it's time to get um the
Speaker 1: great Connie Fox on the line. Colleen, who was what
Speaker 1: a what a year for Colleen? Lindsey? Now you are,
Speaker 1: let's break down the hierarchy here, But why are you
Speaker 1: What can be gained by this conversation? My point is
Speaker 1: Lindsey's like, why do I appear at most once a
Speaker 1: year on the show? Oh no, oh, you guys, I
Speaker 1: just got a text for my producer. I gotta Gonzerrhodes
Speaker 1: is the queen. And now when you're not this isn't
Speaker 1: going in the direction you think I'm I'm sending it.
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's great to have Lindsay around because Lindsay
Speaker 1: is so important of the network. Lindsay has the power
Speaker 1: to make anything go away. Yeah, because she's the Apparently
Speaker 1: I don't access Total Access, which is our flagship program
Speaker 1: on NFL network, which airs Monday through Saturday at all
Speaker 1: different times, but usually seven pm. Um, but yeah it's
Speaker 1: seven eastern. Oh it's not Saturday, not anymore. Now they
Speaker 1: do the Good Morning Football Weekend staring Fox. There you go,
Speaker 1: and Connie Fox is about to join us on the line.
Speaker 1: Is doing such great work. We're powder Connie because Connie
Speaker 1: is not only is she on like fourteen podcasts, which
Speaker 1: I've had conversations with her privately that I'd like her
Speaker 1: to just be on our podcast. The check things sat
Speaker 1: well with me. I'm just being honest with you. That
Speaker 1: would be cleaner. That's that's the thing. He literally just
Speaker 1: got physically uncomfortable and had to adjust his caller Good
Speaker 1: Morning Football Weekend edition of course. Uh and also the
Speaker 1: Power Ranking show. And she's also an Eagles fan. This
Speaker 1: is what I'm trying to get to. Things are going
Speaker 1: right great for Connie right now, and now she joins us,
Speaker 1: or does she Fox? I've called her three times and
Speaker 1: it went from ringing and ringing and sending it to
Speaker 1: voicemail on purpose. You know what it rings like after
Speaker 1: rings and then it goes right to voicemail. Maybe I
Speaker 1: maybe I built it up too much. She's so popular
Speaker 1: now that she can't answer the phone. Colleen, are you
Speaker 1: with us? I like it. I was, you know there
Speaker 1: is you know we a couple of phone call. Gotta
Speaker 1: admit there a few phone calls and did not there
Speaker 1: was no pick up, and we thought that maybe the
Speaker 1: partying had started. So the party had started. Not gonna
Speaker 1: lie going. But I looked at my phone and I'm like, god,
Speaker 1: this number keeps calling me back. And then it literally
Speaker 1: like two minutes to go clicked, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. A few guys, so hey, I'm here.
Speaker 1: There she is. Colleen, You of course were, and by
Speaker 1: the way, you're joined Lindsay Rhodes, Chris Westling, Mark Seessler
Speaker 1: who lost his luggage but still has his handsome hole jeans.
Speaker 1: You were in Philadelphia anchoring the coverage. And before we
Speaker 1: get into it, let's now all together with Colleen listened to.
Speaker 1: We could have played all like five ten minutes of
Speaker 1: Jay Jason Kelsey's speech on the steps of the Philadelphia
Speaker 1: You couldn't have. But let's let's play the money clip
Speaker 1: h Kelsey addressing the crowd. No one wanted us, No
Speaker 1: one like the same, No analysts like this team to
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. Can't him like some fans. And
Speaker 1: you know what, I've just heard one of the best chance,
Speaker 1: this best day, and it's one of my favorite and
Speaker 1: it's new and I hope you all learn it because
Speaker 1: I'm about to drop it right now. You know what
Speaker 1: I gotta say to all those people that doubted us,
Speaker 1: to all those people that got us out there, and
Speaker 1: everybody who said that we couldn't get it done. What
Speaker 1: my man Ja and John just said, So, Kylie and
Speaker 1: I'm asking this and we'll have you'll have to bleep
Speaker 1: this too, Miss Fulton. Um, what did he actually say,
Speaker 1: because I don't know, well, he was singing a song
Speaker 1: and every other word was so yeah, you're gonna you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to bleep that. But it was it was
Speaker 1: something about being from Philly and you know, and just
Speaker 1: dying that over and over and it really got the
Speaker 1: crowd hype. Now was this to you as a native Philadelphian?
Speaker 1: Was it kind of a perfect like kind of highlight up?
Speaker 1: And it will be how this parade is remembered. Kelsey,
Speaker 1: the way he addressed the crowd, the way that he
Speaker 1: didn't care if he was working a little blue, it
Speaker 1: felt to me like perfect Philly. Do you agree with
Speaker 1: someone from the area. Oh my god, I mean, everybody
Speaker 1: is going to embrace Jason Kelsey even more after that,
Speaker 1: because on top of how wonderful he engaged the crowd
Speaker 1: and how he brought up things that were kind of
Speaker 1: irreverend and it didn't even matter because he brought it
Speaker 1: full circle and he did it all in a mummer's outfit.
Speaker 1: I'm from Philadelphia and I still can't really describe what
Speaker 1: a mummer is. They asked me on the broadcast, and
Speaker 1: I like him bells because I don't really even go
Speaker 1: it's a kind of weird thing. Yeah. Actually, Lindsay Rhodes
Speaker 1: walked into this studio today in her what is it?
Speaker 1: It's not really a Mummer's but it's the closest thing.
Speaker 1: What are you wearing? We'll take a picture and yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm about to post it on social Pretty amazing. Um. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's such a cool moment. But beyond that, everybody's gonna
Speaker 1: remember when he turned into a total professional wrestler and
Speaker 1: started dropping f bombs in front of like eighty thousand
Speaker 1: people or whatever. But he went through, he went through
Speaker 1: all the players and like all these guys. Everybody said
Speaker 1: Lane Lane Johnson couldn't lay off the Jews, J and
Speaker 1: g I couldn't healthy, Nick Foles, couldn't play like he
Speaker 1: went through, couldn't catch a ball. Yeah, right, So it
Speaker 1: was very cool what else, um what over the other
Speaker 1: kind of big takeaways from the parade. Well, so I
Speaker 1: stayed at a hotel on Broad Street, which is like
Speaker 1: where the um where the parade kind of went down,
Speaker 1: and I woke up out of a dead sleep and
Speaker 1: heard all of these eagles chance and horns were honking
Speaker 1: and people were screaming, and I flew out of bed
Speaker 1: and was like, oh my god, I missed the Parade's
Speaker 1: going calf in my hotel right now. And I grabbed
Speaker 1: my phone and look at the time, expecting it to
Speaker 1: be like eleven o'clock in the morning, and it was
Speaker 1: one am. People were outside lined up getting after it
Speaker 1: at one o'clock in the morning last night. And then
Speaker 1: we talked to some people who were by the Art
Speaker 1: Museum today where everything kind of culminated, and there were
Speaker 1: people who had been outside since ten o'clock at night,
Speaker 1: just kind of scouting it out and trying to get
Speaker 1: the best spot possible. That's cool. See, that is That's why.
Speaker 1: And Patriots fans will disagree because you always want to win,
Speaker 1: but why And the NFL was good to have a
Speaker 1: fresh face win the Super Bowl, and what what better
Speaker 1: than a team that had never won the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: because you get this whole fresh experience for an entire
Speaker 1: region and you have this unforgettable day. I was talking
Speaker 1: to Lindsay Falti behind the glass. She told me she
Speaker 1: was nervous about the Calves and trade deadline. They basically
Speaker 1: traded away half their team. But the Lindsay, the favorite,
Speaker 1: your favorite day of your life, for one of the
Speaker 1: most exciting days of your life was the Calves victory
Speaker 1: parade after they beat the Warriors two years ago. Yes,
Speaker 1: and my dad still to this day with four kids,
Speaker 1: says that that was the best day of his life,
Speaker 1: was that victory parade. So I know how you feel
Speaker 1: cold where I know you were working, Colleen, But is
Speaker 1: this kind of like a pretty special cherry on top
Speaker 1: of an amazing season for you? Yeah? I mean to
Speaker 1: see the Eagles do as well, to just see them
Speaker 1: win and win and win and win and then kind
Speaker 1: of be called the underdogs and go through everything that
Speaker 1: they went through this year with all the injuries. It
Speaker 1: was so amazing to be able to be at the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and watch them win a Super Bowl, see
Speaker 1: Brian Dawkins be get to get his Hall of Fame nod,
Speaker 1: and then to go back to Philly and cover the parade.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still kind of a little in shock,
Speaker 1: and it's hard for me to wrap my head around
Speaker 1: all of this, but it's been so awesome and to
Speaker 1: be able to celebrate with friends and family right now
Speaker 1: is even better. Well, I just want to know, because
Speaker 1: you're attached to this podcast with a bunch of people
Speaker 1: who have never really seen their teams achieve anything, and
Speaker 1: months ago you were right in that group with us,
Speaker 1: and you were really down when Wentz got hurt. But
Speaker 1: yet you felt like, oh, it's kind of better because
Speaker 1: Eagles fans should have like really rough things happen, and
Speaker 1: then this is more appropriate. You're an adult, you work
Speaker 1: in football. You know it's the innocence of being like
Speaker 1: a young sports fan is not there. But does the
Speaker 1: feeling What is the feeling as an adult when you
Speaker 1: watch your super Bowl, your team, when the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: There's so many years. I really would want to know
Speaker 1: if it's even even should we even still chase this
Speaker 1: or should we just say, you know what, there's probably
Speaker 1: better things in life, or is this is mountaintop? As
Speaker 1: we would think? It was so worth it? It was
Speaker 1: so worth it. I had no idea that the feelings
Speaker 1: that I felt were going to happen when they won.
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, of course it would be amazing
Speaker 1: to watch the Eagles win a Super Bowl, but they're
Speaker 1: playing the Hatrius and I'm worried about that obviously. And
Speaker 1: when they won, it was like my friend Kristen, who
Speaker 1: you guys know, she was face timing with her family
Speaker 1: and they were all crying, and I was talking to
Speaker 1: John and I was like, man, I wish your dad
Speaker 1: could have seen this, because he passed away from cancer
Speaker 1: years ago, and he was such a big Eagle fan.
Speaker 1: And it was so much more than just watching the
Speaker 1: game and watching a team win. It was more of
Speaker 1: like just the reason why you love sports and the
Speaker 1: reason why you get into all of this is because
Speaker 1: it's about like family and those connections and the nostalgia
Speaker 1: of it all. Well, that's we're all very happy for you, Colleen,
Speaker 1: and I want you to drink plenty of water. How
Speaker 1: do they say where you're from water, it's water, it's
Speaker 1: called beer. But what kind of way is that? The talk,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, weird because in the South, that's how
Speaker 1: they say it. But I went all right, now, go
Speaker 1: have fun. She's already become a hyper annoying fan. I
Speaker 1: can try. By the way, Philly fans are going to
Speaker 1: handle this really well. There the next dynasty. You're gonna
Speaker 1: wish New England was back, so the new norm, you know. Alright,
Speaker 1: go have fun, Connie, Okay, alright, bye bye, go Before
Speaker 1: we say goodbye to Lindsay Rhodes, a little bit of
Speaker 1: breaking news. Legit, it's real. The Kansas City Chiefs of
Speaker 1: A released quarterback drel Rivus. What a day in the
Speaker 1: NFL just two months after signing the former Jets cornerback
Speaker 1: to a two year incentive laden contract. Uh Revs was
Speaker 1: not an impact player in Casey, just as he was
Speaker 1: not an impact player anywhere after he left the Patriots.
Speaker 1: It's the breaking news tag. Yeah, but yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: Candel Fuller from the Kirk Cousins trade. There you go,
Speaker 1: she did it. I wasn't ready to talk about Lindsey said,
Speaker 1: Let's let's move the story forward. Revis is old news.
Speaker 1: It's Fuller time, Full Tank for Fuller with Lindsay Rhodes,
Speaker 1: her new podcast, debuting l Media later this month. Um
Speaker 1: So Riva's gone West? Uh did Rivas? Bring anything of
Speaker 1: value to the Chiefs. I mean they got to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that he played that well, No,
Speaker 1: I don't. It doesn't surprise me that he's gone. He
Speaker 1: got Connor or got sandwiches out of it. But this
Speaker 1: is kind of what a lot of people expected that
Speaker 1: I think got more than the chief. Scott probably all right,
Speaker 1: they brought something of value to him there and now
Speaker 1: we'll see you again in five years. Well, Lindsay, you've
Speaker 1: done it again. He came on the show. Did fot
Speaker 1: home run? Wow? Wow, that's Adam done really really hitter.
Speaker 1: Uh And yes, as I said, Lindsay Rhodes is the
Speaker 1: co host, I like the anchor co anchor of NFL
Speaker 1: Total Access, our flagship program. Uh, you gotta check the
Speaker 1: show out. Just yesterday a shouting match but between Lindsay
Speaker 1: and James Jones about Aaron Rodgers is perceived um status
Speaker 1: as a franchise quarterback. Lindsay was not on the side
Speaker 1: of that. Jones went after her. It was great, This
Speaker 1: totally didn't happen. But I'm just trying to send eyeballs
Speaker 1: to the show. How about this? How about this? Eyeballs
Speaker 1: to the show. William mc ginnis is on the show today. Okay,
Speaker 1: we will be talking about the Josh McDaniels situation. And
Speaker 1: he is emphatic that what you think is happening is
Speaker 1: not happening. Oh that's good. Now you will hear. They
Speaker 1: have talked to a few people who would know. You
Speaker 1: will hear this show. After that airs, however, Um, you
Speaker 1: will be on the net. It will be on NFL
Speaker 1: dot com. I'm sure this conversation and we'll well, you
Speaker 1: know what we'll do. We'll send a link out on
Speaker 1: around the NFL handle. Thank you about this very segment
Speaker 1: because we're pros and we get the time angle here
Speaker 1: of how things work in entertainment. Lindsay, you've done it again. Thanks,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Thank you. That first any a
Speaker 1: legend and the odds and ends. It was very nice.
Speaker 1: She kind of suckered me into doing some beatboxing that
Speaker 1: didn't go too well. Brought a new flavor I thought
Speaker 1: it was. It was it was. It was a hip
Speaker 1: hop flavor. Uh that maybe I didn't expect. Alright, I
Speaker 1: like it. I think you both pulled it off. Before
Speaker 1: Before we go, we like we like to share big
Speaker 1: takeaways from the super Bowl. I think last year, as
Speaker 1: West noted on a Super Bowl show, which is still
Speaker 1: available obviously on Apple podcasts and Stitcher and all other
Speaker 1: places other than Spotify. Um, you could check out a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl recap that was live from the US Bank
Speaker 1: Stadium in Minneapolis. We didn't really get to dig into
Speaker 1: big pictures because we were all frankly, and I'm think
Speaker 1: it had something to do with the weather. I'm not
Speaker 1: complaining about the cold weather in Minneapolis and the people,
Speaker 1: as you said, Mark, very nice people, great week other
Speaker 1: for in many ways, I think it grinded, grinding all
Speaker 1: of us down by the end of the week, and
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl show in particular, I don't really remember
Speaker 1: a lot, a little bit delirious by the end of
Speaker 1: the show. So now that we've had a couple of days,
Speaker 1: I actually got to rewatch the game on the plane
Speaker 1: back to UM to l A. Here, um some big
Speaker 1: picture takeaways from the game, and we'll start with you,
Speaker 1: Mark Sess. Are we doing one or two? Here? Take
Speaker 1: one big? I don't know where you got this two things. Well,
Speaker 1: I had two points, but I'll only make one the
Speaker 1: best one. I really love this Eagles team for what
Speaker 1: they accomplished over the last month of the season. And
Speaker 1: it's to me another example of and it's easier on
Speaker 1: the road and say we know nothing and we should
Speaker 1: stop making predictions. But but really more the the fact
Speaker 1: that their internal power completely drowned out the voices of everyone.
Speaker 1: It's this is how they feel, obviously too, because of
Speaker 1: what we heard from Kelsey. But what did the value
Speaker 1: of everyone knocking them down a peg week after week,
Speaker 1: from the minute when Standin went down, right until the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl? What was the value of that? Literally nothing?
Speaker 1: The Eagles got to Super Bowl Week and the one
Speaker 1: thing hanging around them that I felt vibed off them
Speaker 1: so hard was ultra confidence. And I think that when
Speaker 1: you have a team that can, whether it's bunkering down
Speaker 1: the way they did and taking their own mentality and
Speaker 1: owning it and taking it to the point where they
Speaker 1: become the world champions the way they did that is
Speaker 1: excellent coaching, it's excellent focus, and it shows how much
Speaker 1: more powerful that is than everyone with all their negativity,
Speaker 1: all their snark, and all their preconceived notions about what
Speaker 1: the Eagles were, who they were, what their limitations were.
Speaker 1: Everyone was wrong. I have or have the exact same.
Speaker 1: I think it's what this team is feeling, because I
Speaker 1: think it's a not even a lesson, because part of
Speaker 1: your job, if you're a football pundin or you're a
Speaker 1: member of the football cogniscente, is to say things like, oh,
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is gone. He's such a special player. The Eagles,
Speaker 1: they might, you know, limp to twelve or thirteen wins,
Speaker 1: but they're done. I think that I don't think that
Speaker 1: was unfair. At the time Nick Foles was bouncing around
Speaker 1: the league, was almost out of football. But the one
Speaker 1: thing we didn't know, and what the Eagles obviously knew,
Speaker 1: is that they were so strong within and then and
Speaker 1: you see it in the locker room after the game,
Speaker 1: just how close these guys were, and the resolve that
Speaker 1: they had, and the fact that, you know, when the
Speaker 1: Sparrow that I heard from had mentioned that, oh, we're
Speaker 1: gonna put forty points, will be disappointed if we don't put.
Speaker 1: For nobody thought that could be possible. And I think
Speaker 1: at the top of all that is Nick Foles, who
Speaker 1: is a guy that everyone said, listen, he's not a
Speaker 1: good quarterback. He's not somebody that could ever deliver back
Speaker 1: to back performances, and then he did it and then um,
Speaker 1: and let's play at Lindsay. I thought what Nick Foles
Speaker 1: said after the game at his Monday press conference, uh,
Speaker 1: when he was asked about kind of the road uh
Speaker 1: to get to this moment. I mean, it's it's a
Speaker 1: special SoundBite because it shows you kind of the heart
Speaker 1: the measure of a man. I think big thing is
Speaker 1: don't be afraid to fail. I think in our society
Speaker 1: day you know, Instagram, Twitter, it's a highlight reel. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, it's all the good things, and then when
Speaker 1: you look at it, you know you think, like wow,
Speaker 1: when you have a rough there's your life's not as
Speaker 1: good as that, Like you know you're failing. And I
Speaker 1: don't think you know, failure is a part of life.
Speaker 1: That's a part of building character and growing. Like without failure,
Speaker 1: who would you be? I wouldn't be up hereified and
Speaker 1: fall on thousands of times made mistakes. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: we all we're all are human. We all have weaknesses,
Speaker 1: and I think throughout this just being able to share
Speaker 1: that and be transparent. I know when I listen to
Speaker 1: people speak and they share their weaknesses, I'm listening because
Speaker 1: I can resonate. So I'm not perfect. Not Superman might
Speaker 1: be in the NFL and we might have just won
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, but hey, we still have daily struggles.
Speaker 1: I still have daily struggles. So um but that's where
Speaker 1: my faith comes in. That's where my family comes in.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think when you look at a
Speaker 1: struggle in your life, just know that you know that's
Speaker 1: just the opportunity for your character to grow. Folds might
Speaker 1: not be a special quarterback, even though we played really
Speaker 1: well in these last two games, but obviously he's a
Speaker 1: special type of leader in person. We didn't get to
Speaker 1: see that until the gauntlet of the Super Bowl, and
Speaker 1: I thought the substance of that speech was among the
Speaker 1: most impressive that I've ever heard from a pro athlete.
Speaker 1: And it's a lesson that I think the three of
Speaker 1: us have learned me not till later in my life.
Speaker 1: I'm most impressed the fact that a twenty nine year
Speaker 1: old has reached that place in his life where he
Speaker 1: he learned that lesson and he knows how important that is.
Speaker 1: It's one of the great lessons that life will ever
Speaker 1: teach anyone. Um My takeaway, you mentioned Dan the fresh
Speaker 1: fresh face of the Eagles sort of cult back to
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly when he came in. He's supposed to be
Speaker 1: this great innovator, but he's rejected by a good portion
Speaker 1: of the NFL. He his ideas are rejected. And I
Speaker 1: think the history of football going back to the nineteenth
Speaker 1: century is you have a dichotomy where the juxtaposition of
Speaker 1: incest sent tactical innovation on one hand and sort of
Speaker 1: high bound conservative conservative takes on where the league is
Speaker 1: going and how players should act on the other hand.
Speaker 1: And the Eagles married those two. Um, you have analytics
Speaker 1: in Doug Peterson's ear when he goes for fourth downs,
Speaker 1: which a lot of coaches still will not do. Uh.
Speaker 1: You've got him mixing West Coast traditional NFL offense with
Speaker 1: college r p o s and marrying those two offenses.
Speaker 1: And you also have the activism of guys like Malcolm
Speaker 1: Jenkins and Chris Long, which goes against what a lot
Speaker 1: of NFL people want. And I think the Eagles are
Speaker 1: a great example. Maybe you know, it's a copycat league,
Speaker 1: and maybe we'll start to see, uh, some owners, some
Speaker 1: executives around the league give more leeway on this type
Speaker 1: of activism to go with the innovation. I just think
Speaker 1: they're a great example for the rest of the league
Speaker 1: on how they handled that. Everything to do with that
Speaker 1: and the one thing on the chip Kelly, you know,
Speaker 1: his arrival sent Howie Roseman, as we know, deep into
Speaker 1: the shed, millions of miles away from the Poconos. His
Speaker 1: return this team, and this is why the off season
Speaker 1: does matter. For all the stuff we can't stand about it,
Speaker 1: Nick Foles, all Sean Jeffrey Tory, Smith, like Garry Blunt,
Speaker 1: Corey Clement, Nelson Agholar. None of these guys Nelson Agholors
Speaker 1: seen his trade bit a year ago. The rest of
Speaker 1: them non on the team accounted for four hundred eighty
Speaker 1: of the five hundred and thirty six yards by the
Speaker 1: Eagles in the Super Bowl. That's team building. They figured
Speaker 1: out how to build a team with veterans and rookies.
Speaker 1: It's not one drastic end or the other. It's a
Speaker 1: mix of players. You talked about it with the activism,
Speaker 1: the rest that the locker room. We saw it after
Speaker 1: the game. It was a different type of team. It
Speaker 1: was refreshing. Yeah. And uh, it's funny Jason Kelsey when
Speaker 1: he was going through each he I mean he went
Speaker 1: through probably people on the team, and he mentioned Howie Roseman,
Speaker 1: and that report that was confirmed. Not only did Chip
Speaker 1: Kelly move him out of like, you know, out of
Speaker 1: side of people. Kelsey said, I didn't see how he
Speaker 1: rose in for a year after that happened, and then
Speaker 1: he he came all the way back. So a special team, uh,
Speaker 1: and a special way to end the season, uh, for
Speaker 1: the Eagles who are the Super Bowl fifty two champions,
Speaker 1: And that is our Thursday show. We will be back.
Speaker 1: This schedule changes, by the way, officially obviously there's a
Speaker 1: bit of a different week coming out of the super Bowl.
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Speaker 1: might be a standalone UH show that we're gonna put together.
Speaker 1: So we might actually end up doing four shows tomorrow
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Speaker 1: That will land next early next week, and we did
Speaker 1: not forget. We just had too much to get to today.
Speaker 1: Our top ten calls of two thousand seventeen we've been
Speaker 1: curating all year with Fulton UH, and now we have
Speaker 1: to narrow it down to ten and share our favorite
Speaker 1: calls of the year. So that is that, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a couple of those calls that are really really
Speaker 1: close as far as top ten goes. I think we'll
Speaker 1: have to talk about this, but we might need listeners
Speaker 1: to help us out a little bit. It might have
Speaker 1: to do some kind of all right, well, we could
Speaker 1: talk about it, um, how we want to do it.
Speaker 1: It's never easy. We did it last year and it
Speaker 1: was narrowing it down from it was twenty something calls
Speaker 1: and we got it down to ten. So we'll talk
Speaker 1: about it and UH, that's it. Do you do you
Speaker 1: have something you want to play us out on UH
Speaker 1: for today's show? Lindsay, Well, I was gonna play the
Speaker 1: chant that we were talking about with Jason Kelsey's speech.
Speaker 1: Oh you want to play the speech? And you, as
Speaker 1: a professional wrestling fan, lindsay, I know you probably love
Speaker 1: the fact that when he started going through each of
Speaker 1: the names. The crowd started going what what well? The
Speaker 1: difference here being that this is attached to a real sport.
Speaker 1: But but point made, Hey, you know wrestlers are more
Speaker 1: athletic than a lot of professional calm down. We're not
Speaker 1: going to get into this. Yeah, that mark that is
Speaker 1: that is firing a grenade, by the way, at a
Speaker 1: wrestling sport. Um scripted entertainment. Sure it is, but do
Speaker 1: we really want to have this conversation? We'll save anyway.
Speaker 1: What I was saying, Lindsay was that is a famous
Speaker 1: crowd really originated in professional wrestling? Was the what what
Speaker 1: is that? Still? Do it? I mean I was going
Speaker 1: to play the actual chant that he was. I have
Speaker 1: no idea what Lindsay is about to play, but that's
Speaker 1: how the show is going to end. Um So until Monday.
Speaker 1: This is Dan Hanss signing off for Quiet Storm, the Mailman,
Speaker 1: Lindsay Rhodes and Absentia and the Great Lindsay Fulton behind
Speaker 1: the glass Monday. No, no, lie, we went for failing
Speaker 1: failing eyes. So ship someone lights and lower lies and
Speaker 1: no eyes for wam him? Can I ain't know? I
Speaker 1: you know cares he had this out? He has he
Speaker 1: a