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Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast reports for Spring training in February.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansons and I'm joined by roof
Speaker 1: Field teaming even with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, Connie
Speaker 1: Fox and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? People? This is crazy.
Speaker 1: We haven't do this in a while. A lot of
Speaker 1: people here, this is fun. I haven't been on a
Speaker 1: pod with west in months and months and months. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were just talking about that time. Do you have
Speaker 1: to leave early for this one. No, you have This
Speaker 1: is weird. All seven of your shows are taking a
Speaker 1: nap for dirt. This is like, you know the Avengers
Speaker 1: when all the super people come together. Am I doing
Speaker 1: this right? Seem to have a high opinion to your something.
Speaker 1: I was really talking about a total parallel. It's great.
Speaker 1: I don't have to get on a plane for the
Speaker 1: first time in twenties six weeks. I think, yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. This is usually the day that I
Speaker 1: pack and I'm I just put away my suitcase. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: I want to rant against the Shadowy League figures for
Speaker 1: a second um the third floor. I still got much
Speaker 1: use for them. It will just be honest, because they
Speaker 1: always stand in the way of greatness. I would have
Speaker 1: loved to listen to Colleen doing Cardi b on live
Speaker 1: television on NFL network coverage. But and maybe Colleen was
Speaker 1: behind this. There was a uh Lindsay Fulton behind the
Speaker 1: glass told me a company wide missive sent out saying
Speaker 1: we cannot use that on any formats because of copyright issue. Well,
Speaker 1: they did it live. Why was that shocked that they did?
Speaker 1: I didn't know it was. Yeah, Well, when we did it,
Speaker 1: it was we weren't even up yet. It was before
Speaker 1: the show, was during a break, and then when they
Speaker 1: played it back, I thought we were still in a
Speaker 1: break and I thought they were just messing with me.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, we're on right now.
Speaker 1: For people that don't know, Colleen would covered the Eagles
Speaker 1: victory parade in Philly during a commercial, you went into
Speaker 1: a little with Bodak Yellow. Yeah, Cardi B came on,
Speaker 1: that's my song, so everybody knows now. And since you know,
Speaker 1: for the people that didn't get to hear it, and
Speaker 1: since we can't play here, can you now do it here?
Speaker 1: I heard myself on the broadcast and that's enough. You
Speaker 1: were great. You were great. I thought you did pretty well.
Speaker 1: The version I posted on Instagram is a lot better
Speaker 1: because you don't hear me directly into the mic screaming yellow.
Speaker 1: It's like it is not the version that it's over
Speaker 1: two million views right now. I think it's very unfair
Speaker 1: if you put if you put the beat behind it,
Speaker 1: the problem is you have no music behind you. If
Speaker 1: you put that music behind you, you basically are Cardi B. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's basically I'm just like her. I love her and
Speaker 1: we and we love you and I love you Cardi,
Speaker 1: But I have to say that what's up Cardi B
Speaker 1: is a female? Yes, is a little beast. You can't
Speaker 1: you can't get mad that you don't get musical respect.
Speaker 1: Then the biggest hip hop started hit the scene and
Speaker 1: like a couple of years, hit of the year for sure. Look,
Speaker 1: here's some news. Music has been going on for ten
Speaker 1: thou years before this latest hip hop. You can check
Speaker 1: her out on Whether Sports. Like I was a really
Speaker 1: big fan of what was happening in the twelve thousand's
Speaker 1: chamber music leaving alone years from nowelve hundreds, like have
Speaker 1: you heard the new James Taylor album and still bringing it? Hey,
Speaker 1: you're not smarched James Taylor in front of but Connie. Um.
Speaker 1: What I was saying was rampant ages of you. Um,
Speaker 1: but I did get there was so fun going through
Speaker 1: the mentions to that Barstons And my favorite gift there
Speaker 1: was a lot of good gifts of was the one
Speaker 1: and it's a very it's a viral gift. The stop
Speaker 1: signs good, but the one that was like, it's all
Speaker 1: like eighties graphics and it's like the whites are at
Speaker 1: it again. The comments were hilarious. I knew it was
Speaker 1: bad when my mom was like, someone just told me
Speaker 1: you were rapping. Oh god, oh no, all right, So
Speaker 1: here she is. Colleen's with us. She will not wrapped
Speaker 1: for us, but we can find it on the internet
Speaker 1: for the rest of the time. That's good. Um, today's show,
Speaker 1: Uh is a good one. Semi banger, I would say,
Speaker 1: appreci Let's see that the whole coon age the good news.
Speaker 1: Gregor a banger, and West West is the campaign we
Speaker 1: got in this campaign we're gonna get to. This is
Speaker 1: an easy this is an easy be minus speaking plas
Speaker 1: we have. Uh, Stephen ak Muddy, I hope I'm pronouncing
Speaker 1: it right at Stews would on Instagram sent us an
Speaker 1: amazing around the NFL Lock Champion plaque that Mark and
Speaker 1: I are sharing this season, but it's really property of
Speaker 1: the whole podcast group and it looks amazing. And he
Speaker 1: sent us all coasters of our respective home states, um
Speaker 1: or the states that we most relate to. So, Greg,
Speaker 1: you got Louisiana despite a mass for Massachusetts. But I
Speaker 1: do likes not a great coaster Massachusetts either in terms
Speaker 1: of shape it The coasters are are wood and they're
Speaker 1: in the shape of the state mark. Also got New
Speaker 1: York marks. It's always been hasty. A lot of people
Speaker 1: think you're from Ohio, from Connecticut mostly, but you have
Speaker 1: some get tons of Ohio. But I was born in Rochester,
Speaker 1: New York, which if he did his research, I give
Speaker 1: him a lot of credit for that kind of got Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: It makes sense. And I got Ohio and Georgia. You
Speaker 1: got a double there, you Gotnati. Where's your Massachusetts one? Then? Greg,
Speaker 1: I'm perfect Louisiana. But Steven, thank you very much, would
Speaker 1: rather go live by the way. Dan, the idea that
Speaker 1: that this is actually everyone's it's yours and it's mine.
Speaker 1: It's not everyone's, right. I was trying to be come
Speaker 1: back at us next year, come for it and there Yeah,
Speaker 1: and also Lindsay's great lock trophies with us as well. Anyway,
Speaker 1: big show that doesn't have your name on it, we
Speaker 1: can change you're renting it for change that well. Coming
Speaker 1: up today, Greg Wrowte a couple of bangers. Uh. He
Speaker 1: does it every year around this time. Prominent names in
Speaker 1: the NFL sphere, Uh that could be cut and become
Speaker 1: free agents. We have um our free agency primer video
Speaker 1: is coming up later this week, and um, but there's
Speaker 1: gonna be some other names Greg right that are gonna
Speaker 1: enter the fray that our our saucy names and right
Speaker 1: now as of uh as of speaking right now, are
Speaker 1: not on the free agency list. Well, this initial list
Speaker 1: that we talked about last show us and I dan
Speaker 1: it needs a little more sizzle. I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: get a little more sizzle with some of the at
Speaker 1: least a few good players will come out there. I
Speaker 1: like it. And then we're gonna do some news and
Speaker 1: then something that um a listener on Twitter mentioned to
Speaker 1: me this morning that I will have to hit pretty briefly.
Speaker 1: I think might for it might be for the best
Speaker 1: that we hit it briefly, but we'll get to that
Speaker 1: a little bit later. Is it Nordic Tony Romo? No?
Speaker 1: What is that? Have you been watching in the Olympics.
Speaker 1: I've been watching all of the Nordic events. This guy
Speaker 1: sounds just like Tony Romo. So the biathlogue, all those
Speaker 1: cross country honestly, like his cadence. Everything about him be
Speaker 1: predicting different Nordic things. Maybe I haven't been listening that closely.
Speaker 1: But it's like, I'll be in the kitchen and I'm like,
Speaker 1: is that are we do have a game on? Or
Speaker 1: is it the Olympics. I don't know, though I think
Speaker 1: he's Nordic. The events are Nordic that he covers, So
Speaker 1: I'm calling him Nordic Tony Romo and and shout out
Speaker 1: to Mike Rico, who's killing it in the Olympics coverage.
Speaker 1: Not a lot of people talking about Costas, not a
Speaker 1: lot of people missing him. Just gonna say Mark Costas
Speaker 1: had his eras now the Mike Trico era. But you
Speaker 1: would think I understand where you're coming, and he was.
Speaker 1: Greg and Dan and I have had like a eight
Speaker 1: month ongoing text where Greg and Dan see themselves as
Speaker 1: higher standing like broadcasters than Bob Costas. His career absurd. Absurd, Well,
Speaker 1: you would just love absurd. You are not blips on
Speaker 1: the radar compared he's a sit down You would think
Speaker 1: after thirty years though, of hosting that people you know
Speaker 1: when you're first miss and be like, oh it's not
Speaker 1: the same. Did he replace who did he replace? Karl
Speaker 1: Logger fellm No, see, no one remembers who's gone the
Speaker 1: minute you're gone. They're gonna forget about you too, and
Speaker 1: we really should move on. But this brings up something
Speaker 1: I was thinking earlier. You can always count on the
Speaker 1: cost that I've realized now there's three pillars of Mark's
Speaker 1: childhood that if you understand these three pillars, then you
Speaker 1: understand Mark, and you can't come at these pillars or
Speaker 1: else he's gonna guilt. I don't even know where this
Speaker 1: is going, Bob cost. This Star Wars and the Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns Championship games, well, I'll tell you it's the dynamic
Speaker 1: that too. At least two of those three things I
Speaker 1: am dealt with zero respect from you too. On the
Speaker 1: three of you. You don't know. Colleen is not to
Speaker 1: be Billiam for anything. I'm gonna let it go. But
Speaker 1: this that was fun. Let's do some news. The backup
Speaker 1: role has suited me well in my career. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Frank Reich, Yes, the Scott Bacula clone. Maybe it is
Speaker 1: Scott Backuela. We'll never know, but this man is the
Speaker 1: head coach of the Indianapolis Colts. Uh. The saga ended
Speaker 1: for Indie when they officially announced Reich as the head
Speaker 1: coach and he had his opening press conference. Um He
Speaker 1: even had him take a picture holding up the newspaper
Speaker 1: to make sure it was actually happening. All things considered,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, um and you spoke of it and a
Speaker 1: lot of people agree. I agree as well that Chris
Speaker 1: Ballard did very well in that post McDaniels scramble and
Speaker 1: then it looks like they ended up with a good choice,
Speaker 1: which we talked about on Monday. But how do you
Speaker 1: think Wright came out and this press came off in
Speaker 1: this press conference, he came out fine. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think number one, he handled kind of what happened with
Speaker 1: that team over the last week. I think they they
Speaker 1: probably had to talk to him and coach him up
Speaker 1: a little bit and say let's bring levity to this
Speaker 1: and it's a new page. But he is definitely someone
Speaker 1: that um utters endless sentences of coach speak. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of it going on and even to the point
Speaker 1: where to write it up. And I thought nothing of
Speaker 1: newsworthiness came out of this press conference. And it's not
Speaker 1: to kill Reich because I think he's gonna end up
Speaker 1: being probably someone that oh the last coach hired. I
Speaker 1: think that means literally nothing. He probably would have been
Speaker 1: a head coach at some point. He's a good fit
Speaker 1: for the cults. It sounds like he's sort of someone
Speaker 1: that Ursay seemed to gloam onto right away. So no
Speaker 1: overt negatives. But I came out of the press conference
Speaker 1: being like, I don't really have any idea who frank
Speaker 1: is that the probably wanted. Probably fine, let's get out
Speaker 1: of the new cycle and just have our head coach
Speaker 1: and prepare for the combine and free agency. By the way,
Speaker 1: they did add one thing that did come out of it.
Speaker 1: You remember Pat McAfee. No, he was a punter and
Speaker 1: then he's going to be a big star somewhere. He's familiar. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. At the press governments. He asked the question
Speaker 1: that led to that great backup answer. Also asked about
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. How to make him magical? I think was
Speaker 1: the way you put it, And here's what Frankie had
Speaker 1: to say. The key to make Andrew Luck magical is
Speaker 1: this is a team game. As great as he is,
Speaker 1: and I believe he's the best. I believe he's the best,
Speaker 1: But this game the reason that we all love this game.
Speaker 1: I just came off of a team that we lost
Speaker 1: our franchise quarterback and still won a Super Bowl. So
Speaker 1: I know Andrew embraces this game is not built on
Speaker 1: anyone player. He is magical. He has special, unique traits
Speaker 1: and abilities that I respect as much as anybody, and
Speaker 1: I can't wait to work with him. But if we're
Speaker 1: gonna win championships, and that's the plan, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: about surrounding our whole team and the way the way
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring out the best in each other. Moving
Speaker 1: on the Kansas City Chiefs and Derek Johnson, it's the
Speaker 1: end of the road the team and outs Tuesday that
Speaker 1: the veteran line accor will be a free agent when
Speaker 1: his contract voids at the start of the new league
Speaker 1: year in March fourteen. Thirty five years old. Johnson has
Speaker 1: spent his entire thirteen year career in Casey after being
Speaker 1: drafted with the fifteenth overall pick in five West. Your
Speaker 1: thoughts about Derek Johnson and your thoughts about how he
Speaker 1: played this season, Derrick Johnson, This is amazing how long
Speaker 1: he's lasting, Considering about seven or eight years ago there
Speaker 1: was talk of the Chiefs releasing him. He was benched
Speaker 1: for a while during the Scott Pioli regime and Todd
Speaker 1: Haley regime. Uh, and then he became one of the best.
Speaker 1: And it feels like he re became one of the
Speaker 1: best inside linebackers in the NFL. He's had sort of
Speaker 1: started out of his career high, hit a low point,
Speaker 1: then went back high again and made four or five
Speaker 1: Pro Bowls. Has had an awesome career. But they traded
Speaker 1: for Reggie Ragland last year and he came on pretty
Speaker 1: strong at the end of the year. So so it
Speaker 1: doesn't really surprise me that at age thirty five, uh,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are moving on from Derrick Johnson. And he
Speaker 1: wanted to stay too. I mean he he said that
Speaker 1: he wanted to work something out, but they kind of
Speaker 1: already had their minds made up on everything. And it's
Speaker 1: kind of amazing. Like you said, West, I mean, he's
Speaker 1: played through five different head coaches there, He's seen a lot.
Speaker 1: In Kansas City, he'll be in their Ring of Honor.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's called in Kansas City. It's
Speaker 1: a different, you know, ringed in depending on where you are.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a team Hall of Fame. But he will
Speaker 1: be on that. I mean, he has he has the
Speaker 1: biggest tackler in in the team's history thirteen years, like
Speaker 1: kind of like ultimate glue guy for them. It was
Speaker 1: a little awkward the way that they announced it because
Speaker 1: they weren't exactly releasing him. He had avoid in his contracts,
Speaker 1: so they basically had to put that out there, even
Speaker 1: though he wanted to be with the team, just like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're not resigning. Get used to it, chiefs, fans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: find the find the player that lasted uh this long
Speaker 1: with two torn achilles and and just kept on coming
Speaker 1: back for more. It's a unique career. They need to
Speaker 1: get younger on defense, and they know I think tom
Speaker 1: Boy has gone there, Johnson's gone. They released Rrel Reeves.
Speaker 1: They need to get a lot younger. Another player that
Speaker 1: is dealing with injury issues, A star player, Cam Chancellor,
Speaker 1: who has been a major part of the legion. I
Speaker 1: call him the Legion of Boom. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's gonna catch on. I'm starting to float that out.
Speaker 1: He said they were dead. That was your big hot
Speaker 1: take is Wait, so they've been reborn again as the
Speaker 1: Legion of Boom. Are you re announced? No? Actually, I
Speaker 1: think I was kind of on target with that. I
Speaker 1: think it is over for the legion of Boom. Don't
Speaker 1: don't don't uh, don't at me, Seahawks fans, because Cam
Speaker 1: Chancer wants to come back, but it's all whether his
Speaker 1: body will let it happen. He missed the last seven games,
Speaker 1: UM miss seven games in seen because of a neck injury.
Speaker 1: Coach Pat Carroll set in January that Chancellor could have
Speaker 1: a hard time playing again, but rap Sheet reported Tuesday
Speaker 1: that the safety intends to play in eighteen if and
Speaker 1: this is a big one mark if he gets medically cleared.
Speaker 1: He has no plans to retire, So Cam not giving
Speaker 1: up the dream. It's a kind of injury. We're just
Speaker 1: going to wait and see. But his six point eight
Speaker 1: million dollars salary went fully guaranteed, already has twelve million guaranteed.
Speaker 1: They want him back if he can, if he's healthy,
Speaker 1: but he's he's not young. Well, there could be an
Speaker 1: issue there that you can already see coming with Pete
Speaker 1: Carroll saying he's not sure if he's gonna get cleared,
Speaker 1: and sometimes there's battled over guaranteed money. So be who's
Speaker 1: Cam Chancellor to say he wants to play and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be up to lawyers and doctors, and who knows,
Speaker 1: maybe he is going to be fine. I don't have
Speaker 1: much else as safety behind Earl time. It's a very
Speaker 1: similar situation with Cliff Avril, who is expected to get released,
Speaker 1: who also has a career threatening injury but seems to
Speaker 1: want to play, but the Seahawks don't necessarily believe that.
Speaker 1: I think they were similar injuries too. But Cliff Avril
Speaker 1: had surgery and Cam Chancellor is just sort of waiting
Speaker 1: it out. I wouldn't be surprised if he was just
Speaker 1: on the pop list for the entire season to get
Speaker 1: that guaranteed money. You're ahead of things, Dan, I think
Speaker 1: they are kind of dead. That's why why I have
Speaker 1: a key. I have a key downstairs. Oh yeah, come
Speaker 1: any time. I haven't popped down there to the lab
Speaker 1: scientists lab. I was like, where's what's downstair? Quite frankly,
Speaker 1: because I don't feel welcome with gregor Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: feel like Greg has not been a green hook, not
Speaker 1: at all. But I get it. I get it. That's
Speaker 1: his corner. He doesn't want me down there by the
Speaker 1: whipping room or what what's it called the agony change.
Speaker 1: That's kind of your thing. They actually they're gonna have
Speaker 1: a a ceremony rename at the Colleen Wolf Agony channel headquarters.
Speaker 1: Why would you not want him too? I don't remember
Speaker 1: any vibes like that. We both felt the same thing.
Speaker 1: I have felt like Greg has not been as welcoming
Speaker 1: as he could about you being included. Wow, well you
Speaker 1: you If you're going to use the equipment, you clean
Speaker 1: up after yourself, that's number one. That's just of you.
Speaker 1: That's just one of the rules. What is that about? What?
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means? Pick up your stuff,
Speaker 1: you know, if you're going to use a piece sounds
Speaker 1: like an excuse for a guy. Doesn't want me down there?
Speaker 1: Beaker protocolcl hit me the Beaker protocol in the big spot.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Greg and greg enemies, Mike shula h is
Speaker 1: the new Giants offensive coordinator. Um Kim Jones reported on
Speaker 1: Tuesday spent the last I don't know a bunch of
Speaker 1: season five seasons with Carolina. Had a lot of success
Speaker 1: when Kim on the m v P, but was oft maligned,
Speaker 1: especially by the man to my right. What are you
Speaker 1: laughing at? West over there? Gig I liked the new
Speaker 1: Dan like it's off season. He's like, I don't know
Speaker 1: five seasons what happened? It was five yeah, but I've
Speaker 1: as a coordinator to coach. This is he gets the
Speaker 1: coordinator title, but he's kind of the QUB coach. It's
Speaker 1: Pat Shermer's offense. He literally is the QB coach for
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. So you know, out of a little deference
Speaker 1: in that way, you can pay him a little more
Speaker 1: since he's a coordinator. He's been in the league long
Speaker 1: time to give him that nice little title. But this
Speaker 1: is Pat Shermer's I don't know if it's a I
Speaker 1: guess a Dave Gettleman connection that bring him there too,
Speaker 1: but it's it's a step down career wise in terms
Speaker 1: of what he had shown he could do in Carolina.
Speaker 1: Like him or not. I mean, he's not going to
Speaker 1: call play I don't I always that could always change
Speaker 1: to coaches that say I'm gonna Pat Shermer was in
Speaker 1: over his head in Cleveland, the idea that he is
Speaker 1: going to call plays into everything else. Let's see how
Speaker 1: that goes. I did not expect Mike Schula to get
Speaker 1: another offensive coordinator job, though, so it's not a surprise
Speaker 1: that he'll probably be drawing up place. He's not going
Speaker 1: to be calling them. But yeah, it's interesting because they
Speaker 1: have Gettoman there and now Shula and then their personnel
Speaker 1: consultant that was the player personnel director in Carolina before.
Speaker 1: I don't want to mess up as a name, but
Speaker 1: it's Mark Ko and c z con CONTs. Yeah, close
Speaker 1: to something else. He's got some sad he's got cons
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking severs in Carolina. Now Odell Beckham
Speaker 1: Sterling Sheppard and what's going on over there. You know
Speaker 1: it's the off season. Have possibly he's going to have
Speaker 1: a number two overall pick rookie quarterback to moving on.
Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals a time of transition for that organization,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna keep the general manager around, uh, Connie Fox.
Speaker 1: The team announced Monday they have signed Steve Calm dropping
Speaker 1: the time bomb, the kid bomb excuse me, to a
Speaker 1: contract extension that will keep him in the Desert through
Speaker 1: you like to move, Connie, I like it, Yeah, And
Speaker 1: you know it's his last two years weren't the best
Speaker 1: because of a lot of different injuries and stuff that happened,
Speaker 1: but his first three seasons with the team there were
Speaker 1: the best in franchise history. So he has his work
Speaker 1: kind of cut out for him right now. I wonder
Speaker 1: if he's going to you know, maybe if they signed
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor or what they do in the off season
Speaker 1: in terms of quarterback, if they draft him. But they
Speaker 1: need a lot of different pieces. But they still have
Speaker 1: some some good talent there, and his contract lines up
Speaker 1: with Steve Wilkes too, an affable sort also bold and
Speaker 1: uh I feel like finest, finest work, its finest work
Speaker 1: has come on the you'r the GM segment of this podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we can't lose him. He was he was good on
Speaker 1: he was good on all or nothing. He was. I
Speaker 1: think this is there. They have a fascinating offseason. He
Speaker 1: has to decide whether he wants to blow up really
Speaker 1: the group that brought him a lot of winds and
Speaker 1: fully rebuild their kind of do a piece mail. There's
Speaker 1: a bunch of players that he that he's paid a
Speaker 1: lot of money. Jared Vel, Dear, Mike Aya, Patti Dayan,
Speaker 1: Boucan Buchanan, Honey Badger, who all of those guys future
Speaker 1: kind of up in the air. You could keep them
Speaker 1: all really, if you wanted, you could get rid of
Speaker 1: them all. Like the Larry Fitzgerald's up in the air.
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of a blow up or not type
Speaker 1: office when they don't have a single quarterback under contract.
Speaker 1: So whether it's Tyrod Taylor or I could see them
Speaker 1: being a team that account or moving up in the
Speaker 1: draft because it's not Bruce Arians there. So Bruce Arians
Speaker 1: feels like he would love to go get another aging
Speaker 1: veteran that he can trust. But maybe you go rookie. Finally,
Speaker 1: they have not developed a quarterback in Arizona in ages. Well,
Speaker 1: their offense is a mess. It's it's a sneaky mess
Speaker 1: that people don't really know about. Their offensive line is
Speaker 1: not good at all. Right, that's right? Do I pay
Speaker 1: these guys so much when they're not Their wide receiver
Speaker 1: corps sneaky, one of the worst in the NFL. Now,
Speaker 1: even with Larry Fitzgerald. It's it's a bad offense. So
Speaker 1: they need to blow that up. But I think they
Speaker 1: love their defense alright. Moving on, well Man who is
Speaker 1: one no logs up behind full who's to the runner
Speaker 1: goes directly to Plummon Clement well versus it I have
Speaker 1: a past goes into the outcome the touchdof on their foles. Colleen,
Speaker 1: what was that play known as what is it known
Speaker 1: as now famous the Philly Special? Of course, the Gutsy.
Speaker 1: It's the player that people remember from this game more
Speaker 1: than anyone. Uh. And super Bowl fifty two, fourth down
Speaker 1: at the yard and a half line and Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: and Nick Foles put their heads together, is actually Nick
Speaker 1: foles idea? And uh the trick play that leads to
Speaker 1: Nick Foles catching the touchdown pass Eagles in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: All that good stuff. Sure did say it again? Say
Speaker 1: it again? Listen. I don't want Greg to get any
Speaker 1: more angry at me. They already got the scientist lap
Speaker 1: thing going on watching Colleen hosts that parade and just
Speaker 1: the magic like the fact that you got a host
Speaker 1: the parade television or your team wearing the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it made up a percent for the pages,
Speaker 1: but it was a beautiful thing to see. Like it's
Speaker 1: an amazing moment, not just for the whole city. I
Speaker 1: don't know I buy that or that that it made
Speaker 1: up for it at all. I said absolutely, And like
Speaker 1: it's a team also that I really like. I picked
Speaker 1: the Eagles to win this division. I root for the
Speaker 1: Eagles basically every every single season, So it's nice that
Speaker 1: it's true you you were back a table for the
Speaker 1: Eagles for many years. You got all right, it's not
Speaker 1: why we the reason I bring it up, No, the
Speaker 1: reason I bring it up it's on your behalf, Mark,
Speaker 1: because I just want to surface this and I I
Speaker 1: am uh not involved. I'm not going to pitch it
Speaker 1: one way or the other. But um, the one thing
Speaker 1: about your sandwich prop that you made for the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and what it was was a play in Super Bowl
Speaker 1: fifty two receives a nickname and tops the helmet catch.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna throw it out there that I don't
Speaker 1: think this necessarily top the helmet catch. I'm not making
Speaker 1: that case. But now with a little bit more you know,
Speaker 1: hindsight type situation, we could see that this is now
Speaker 1: going to be a famous play in NFL history, at
Speaker 1: least in this or the NFL. Did Mark win the prop?
Speaker 1: Bet wes It was great call by Mark, but no,
Speaker 1: if this play had happened in the final couple of
Speaker 1: minutes of the game and took the lead for the Eagles, sure,
Speaker 1: but after this play happened it was before halftime. First
Speaker 1: of all, they lost the leads, then they lost the
Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarter, and they needed more good
Speaker 1: plays to overcome it. The helmet catch was first of all,
Speaker 1: more improbable, more incredible, more unbelievable, and was the deciding
Speaker 1: play in that game. This was not the deciding play
Speaker 1: in the game. Absolutely incorrect. No, no hold on. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing. I've seen this all pop up on Twitter,
Speaker 1: and here's what I did. I simply did not get involved.
Speaker 1: Because you had a very strong heat seeking take out
Speaker 1: of the gate. Everyone's got all these strong opinions. I
Speaker 1: actually don't think that it officially topped the helmet match
Speaker 1: in the way that and the way that I wrote that.
Speaker 1: It didn't in the spirit of the fact that I
Speaker 1: came close did a great job. It came pretty close
Speaker 1: because you cut, you come out of sue other spols
Speaker 1: with no title title play at all, So I came
Speaker 1: a little bit close. Didn't get close enough. In my defense.
Speaker 1: In addition to the searing take, I prefaced it with
Speaker 1: I appreciate trust me, though. It's like I like, I
Speaker 1: logged onto Twitter and they're like eight hundred things about
Speaker 1: like West battling those plays said, I'm not getting involved
Speaker 1: in MS this when that I was tracking that and
Speaker 1: but but Mark, you know I had your back there.
Speaker 1: I just threw it out there. Maybe it deserved conversation,
Speaker 1: but it would be wrong for me to come up
Speaker 1: with some wild lobby for it to be bigger than
Speaker 1: the helmet. Catch it settled. That is settled. I didn't
Speaker 1: get the trophy, I didn't get the sandwiches. Everything's coming
Speaker 1: up Charlie Brown's situation. Uh, and that's what's happening in
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Speaker 1: on um the podcast, or something I said on the
Speaker 1: podcast and forgot about was resurfaced on Twitter today. A
Speaker 1: guy named Patrick at LB three p T M A
Speaker 1: N had set a reminder in his calendar that at
Speaker 1: some point in the past history of our show, I
Speaker 1: promised on today's date, February, we would have the Theology podcast.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm not prepared for this today, and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that we I'm just saying that was the promise
Speaker 1: that I made, and that means we made. I have
Speaker 1: prepared a few thoughts on this subject. I know you've
Speaker 1: always had them in the chambers. But um, the question,
Speaker 1: I guess is, well, let's just I gotta second, Let's
Speaker 1: get a little heavenly for a second, turn it up
Speaker 1: for a little bit. And yet I feel relaxed. It's
Speaker 1: not yet, but it's what and you would sound like
Speaker 1: if we were allowed to play anyway, I'm gonna use
Speaker 1: a softer voice here the Theology podcast? Is it time?
Speaker 1: Theology podcast? Now that you mentioned time, what is time?
Speaker 1: We don't have a whole lot of it. I want
Speaker 1: to do it. It's fine, not in the middle of
Speaker 1: this show. It deserves all right. I'll open it here
Speaker 1: and then you guys can describe the full show. Uh,
Speaker 1: what's power? Rank the religions and also potential busts. This
Speaker 1: include all dead religions or only ones that people are
Speaker 1: currently killing in the name of what religion is a
Speaker 1: potential bust. Let's open it up to the floor, start
Speaker 1: with college. I'll throw scientology out. There is a potential bust.
Speaker 1: I feel it's been unmasked does that even care? That's
Speaker 1: Marks that said that, by the way, Teams your Volta
Speaker 1: greg any thoughts potential. I'm trying to think of some
Speaker 1: religion and you have some truly have I would like
Speaker 1: to truly have a theology podcast discussion. I think it
Speaker 1: would deserve more than a couple of minutes in the
Speaker 1: middle of the show that I think it. Save it,
Speaker 1: Save it for the theology podcast. Hot take here all busts.
Speaker 1: All of them are busting atheism. Okay, that's a tease.
Speaker 1: It's some would say that would be kind of a
Speaker 1: gutless take though, it's all they're all human constructs. Interesting, Mark,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not really I'm not gonna you
Speaker 1: guys asked by the way, I'm talking to the audience
Speaker 1: that you guys asked for this particular conversation for four
Speaker 1: years on, we're not really delivering. It's also Ash Wednesday,
Speaker 1: on the same Valentine's Day? Are you going to get ashes? Dan?
Speaker 1: My mom's listening. I can't tell you. This is amazing,
Speaker 1: but I love you. UM need to be a good
Speaker 1: Catholic boy. And what are you giving up for lent? Then?
Speaker 1: Dan Gatorade, I always just give up Gatorade, even though
Speaker 1: I don't really drink it anywhere. I used to give
Speaker 1: it up in college and it was a big deal
Speaker 1: because I love Gatorade, just to give it up anyway,
Speaker 1: I don't really drink it anywore how about you? Oh
Speaker 1: um Sugar gave up Catholicism for lent Um. All right,
Speaker 1: so we'll save it for the rest of it for
Speaker 1: the Theology podcast coming up February two night. No, I
Speaker 1: think we need to do in the middle of the summer.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. A nice summer podcast, all right, we
Speaker 1: need to reach I'm trying to figure out when they
Speaker 1: kid July. It's not going to be a thousand all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, It's like I'm hosting and podcast. All right,
Speaker 1: there you go. So there's a little teaser for the
Speaker 1: Theology podcast. Hope everybody enjoyed it. Um Hot takes from
Speaker 1: West Uh Connie lied about lent and uh Mark and
Speaker 1: big no comments confession. Yeah, all right, I took down scientology.
Speaker 1: I think that was that was actually the foundational Yeah,
Speaker 1: Team Travolta again, Team Cruise. I just say I have
Speaker 1: questions and like and like religious activity, you know, throughout
Speaker 1: my life, I was not involved, really podcast, not really
Speaker 1: your nay, just wasn't this is a real holy group.
Speaker 1: Wasn't involved? Never came up. You weren't raised in any religion. Really,
Speaker 1: I had never went to any sort of service or
Speaker 1: anything like that, now I was. I mean, I grew
Speaker 1: up in an Irish Catholic town, but my parents, no,
Speaker 1: I was never I've never been. I've never been to
Speaker 1: a place of worship. It never really came up in
Speaker 1: our house. And you also said you never went to
Speaker 1: a gym ever, what not to work out? Interesting? I mean,
Speaker 1: I've been to like hotel. I've never worked on the
Speaker 1: equipment at the gym other than the tread mill. Tread
Speaker 1: famously has never lifted away, never lifted anyway. All right,
Speaker 1: speaking of Greg Um, sometimes some peculiar natures about Greg,
Speaker 1: but we we love him, and there's not a peculiar
Speaker 1: about this banger that gregorrown a two part banger on
Speaker 1: the website, uh called prominent but well you rode this
Speaker 1: is Greg's corner. But in the entire interest you wrote
Speaker 1: a two part um column a f C and NFC
Speaker 1: players of prominent nature who could be cut? And uh,
Speaker 1: why don't we kind of just go through some names, Greg,
Speaker 1: and you kind of well, kind of run a lot
Speaker 1: of this through you, Greg, but it's a it's an
Speaker 1: open conversation for all, um, Greg, why don't we start
Speaker 1: with this, Who to you is the biggest name, the
Speaker 1: big is fish that could end up entering the free
Speaker 1: agency pond uh in the next weeks month. That's a
Speaker 1: good question. I think Dez Bryant is the one that's
Speaker 1: been talked about the most like in terms of has
Speaker 1: the highest profile and has a legitimate chance of being released.
Speaker 1: And I think it's the type of move that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys never make, and so that it's not a move
Speaker 1: I expect the Cowboys to make. I think they'll find
Speaker 1: a way to come up with some sort of compromise
Speaker 1: where in reality he does kind of take a pay cut,
Speaker 1: but it's couched as an extension where it lowers his
Speaker 1: cap and he can make it back and incentives. And
Speaker 1: I think he wants to stay, and I don't think
Speaker 1: the Jones family really wants to give it up. But
Speaker 1: they decided to make this a huge issue when right
Speaker 1: after the season, in in a very telegraphed maneuver, Stephen
Speaker 1: Jones said, I'm not sure about Dez. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: about his future, and Jerry Jones said, well, you know
Speaker 1: he's he's been part of the problem. We need more
Speaker 1: big plays, so they made this a bigger story. I
Speaker 1: think that it would have been already and not just
Speaker 1: big plays. That he's been an issue on the sideline
Speaker 1: with some of his histrionics. I mean, I thought they
Speaker 1: went out of their way to say, this is why
Speaker 1: you're not as valuable to us as you once were,
Speaker 1: which is basically to me, take a pay cut or
Speaker 1: take a walk. It's early negotiating employment. Brian had very
Speaker 1: strong words saying that he would not take a pay
Speaker 1: cut right after the season two and so you know
Speaker 1: we can see I judge cuts and releases how big
Speaker 1: they are by how weird it would be to see
Speaker 1: player X in a different uniform and seeing Dez Bryant
Speaker 1: in anything but a Cowboys uniform. He puts me at
Speaker 1: the top of this list. I think he sits at
Speaker 1: the top of this list. So it's any like the
Speaker 1: biggest name in free agency besides Kirk Cousins. Well just
Speaker 1: I guess like guys that guys that could get really
Speaker 1: attached to a team under contract for next year or beyond,
Speaker 1: but could end up getting cut before free agency starts.
Speaker 1: So another like another big name out there. Greg Another
Speaker 1: example would be like Brandon Mark. There's some obvious ones
Speaker 1: that are big names. Brandon Marshall, I think is a
Speaker 1: no doubt he's gonna get cut. You're gonna go a
Speaker 1: job Marshall. He couldn't broadcasting his career, Gonna leave New York,
Speaker 1: don't His career might might be over. DeMarco Murray is
Speaker 1: one that I would be stunned if he stayed on
Speaker 1: the team. Tyrod Taylor is is one. Where are are we?
Speaker 1: The Bills are gonna let him go? Would any team
Speaker 1: actually think about trading for Tyrod Taylor? He's do eighteen
Speaker 1: point five million. Everyone assumes they want to get rid
Speaker 1: of him. I don't know, are they really gonna be
Speaker 1: Why would anyone assume that because we assumed it last
Speaker 1: year to year it didn't happen. But this year he
Speaker 1: said he's not going to take a pay cut, So
Speaker 1: I think he'll be a starting quarterback elsewhere. He's had
Speaker 1: such a weird relationship with the Bills and vice versa.
Speaker 1: I mean for the whole time he's been there. It
Speaker 1: seems like it seems like it would just be healthier
Speaker 1: for everybody if he started over. Um yeah, so uh
Speaker 1: de Marco Murray, who had a really good first season
Speaker 1: in Tennessee. He's gonna be a big name out there,
Speaker 1: but he feels like also a guy on the wrong side, Colleen,
Speaker 1: a guy that was beat up. His body was beat
Speaker 1: up last year, and he maybe didn't have the same burst.
Speaker 1: I don't know he's gonna have a big market either,
Speaker 1: especially if you have Derrick Henry there, who clearly was
Speaker 1: the more productive running back and a new head coach,
Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Rabel. I don't know if I'm him
Speaker 1: and I see both of these, So yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: need both of them and there, and they're gonna be
Speaker 1: plenty of It's hard for aging running backs who don't
Speaker 1: play special teams or really do much, you know, to
Speaker 1: get jobs. Adrian Peterson is on this list because he's Martin.
Speaker 1: He's still under contract for the Cardinals. I believe he'll
Speaker 1: get cut. Doug Martin will certainly get cut by the Bucks,
Speaker 1: you know. And then there's guys like Frank Gore who
Speaker 1: are free agent. I mean, it's it's tough for all
Speaker 1: of these guys to get jobs. I think Peter could
Speaker 1: get cut. I'm more interested kind of the the options
Speaker 1: where the player is still good and it's you're not
Speaker 1: sure what's gonna happen. The Packers are interesting to me.
Speaker 1: That's the one that caught my attention to look at
Speaker 1: their receivers and think, are they gonna bring back Jordy
Speaker 1: Nelson and Randall Cobb or is it an either or scenario,
Speaker 1: which is what I think a lot of people around
Speaker 1: Green Bayfield. Yeah, it's a tough call too, because Jordy
Speaker 1: Nelson obviously fell off the map once Aaron Rodgers uh
Speaker 1: got hurt, but he also seemed like maybe he was
Speaker 1: showing signs of decline either way, and I was a
Speaker 1: year older. Aaron Rodgers is back, but as he's gonna
Speaker 1: be worth the money At this point, defenses were already
Speaker 1: treating Davante Adams as the number one receiver before Brad
Speaker 1: Hunley took over for Aaron Rodgers. But I think you
Speaker 1: do have to wonder how much of that Jordy Nelson
Speaker 1: becoming one of the least productive receivers in the NFL
Speaker 1: was the loss of Aaron Rodgers. Because they have that
Speaker 1: unique chemistry and rapport that they it's hard to replace
Speaker 1: with Brad Hunley. So he That's why he's intriguing to
Speaker 1: me because I don't know if he can still play
Speaker 1: or not. Cop to me, Mark has been kind of
Speaker 1: a disappointed guy ever since he signed that contract. I
Speaker 1: liked him a lot and thought he was like the
Speaker 1: secret weapon of that team in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: and then the last few years and just never is click.
Speaker 1: So I feel like, yeah, Greg, that was a great
Speaker 1: choice to put him on the list. Thank you, John No,
Speaker 1: it's totally electric a few years ago. I think they
Speaker 1: have a massive front front office regime shift here. I
Speaker 1: wonder if they're going to start to look at some
Speaker 1: of these pieces that have been in place without any
Speaker 1: questions around them differently, because I think they're gonna approach
Speaker 1: free agency differently in the entire offseason process. And you
Speaker 1: mentioned in the article Aaron Rodgers, his head would completely explode,
Speaker 1: right if they got rid of a ball. Well both,
Speaker 1: I think you it's it's good to you put or
Speaker 1: because it can't be both your cleaning house. I think
Speaker 1: if they both were unwilling to take a pay cut
Speaker 1: that I think the team might be prepared to let
Speaker 1: go of both, but Jordy Nelson has already kind of
Speaker 1: telegraphed publicly that he'd be willing to take a pay cut,
Speaker 1: that maybe he understands his value is not the same
Speaker 1: and he'd like to stay there, which you would think
Speaker 1: gives him the edge over Cobb to stay and because
Speaker 1: of his connection with Aaron Rodgers, and they probably have
Speaker 1: to move him to the slot a little more, which
Speaker 1: is where Cobb plays. So again, it kind of only
Speaker 1: makes sense for one. And don't forget they paid Davante
Speaker 1: Adams number one receiver money, so suddenly the three of
Speaker 1: those guys are combining for more than thirty five million dollars,
Speaker 1: which is pretty crazy for a wide receiver crew. You
Speaker 1: bring up players, and I agree, it's more interesting guys
Speaker 1: that you don't know whether they're on their upside or downside.
Speaker 1: Moe Wilkerson has done with the Jets. He basically tardied
Speaker 1: himself out of town there. But also he was making
Speaker 1: a crap ton of money for a guy who has
Speaker 1: played very mediocre football ever since coming back from that
Speaker 1: broken leg and getting all that money. However, he's still
Speaker 1: a younger guy. I think he's twenty eight or twenty
Speaker 1: nine years old. Um, before that leg injury, he was
Speaker 1: one of the best and most versatile defensive linemen and football.
Speaker 1: The Jets are done with him, but I could see
Speaker 1: another team, you know, getting wooed by Wilkerson, who's gonna
Speaker 1: say I'm I'm ready to like start over, and him
Speaker 1: getting a big deal out of it. What do you
Speaker 1: guys think? Was there some overlap between Mo Wilkerson and
Speaker 1: Patton in New York? Wilkerson was, yeah, I think maybe
Speaker 1: Green Bay Patton own running the Packers. I think with
Speaker 1: guys like him, when you question their attitude, it's who
Speaker 1: were the most successful under as a coach. So maybe
Speaker 1: there is some I mean, he you're you're right, he's
Speaker 1: only twenty eight years old and he'll be twenty eight
Speaker 1: when the season starts. That's pretty that's pretty young. That's
Speaker 1: a little There's a couple of Yeah, there's a couple
Speaker 1: of these guys on this list. Robert Quinn really stands out.
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn is a fascinating case to me because for
Speaker 1: one season he played about at a J J what
Speaker 1: type of level, A very different player, but he played
Speaker 1: at a defensive player of the year type level, and
Speaker 1: he really hasn't had that type of season since. But
Speaker 1: he's only twenty seven years old. Somehow still he's had
Speaker 1: some injuries, so he feels older, and he's doing a
Speaker 1: lot of money twelve million dollars this year, and he
Speaker 1: would be a logical cut because I don't think he
Speaker 1: played to that level. But maybe in today's NFL, when
Speaker 1: there's all this cap space, it's like, maybe you just
Speaker 1: keep Robert Quinn and see if he turns it around.
Speaker 1: It's like, what do you gotta do with all this
Speaker 1: cap space? That's one of my one of my new themes,
Speaker 1: cap space is overrated. I think the teams that really
Speaker 1: banked on building up cap space is some sort of
Speaker 1: huge strategy are feeling like it was a bit of
Speaker 1: a waste because the entire NFL has a ton of
Speaker 1: cap space. There's more cap space than anyone really needs
Speaker 1: at this point, Well, you end up wasting money or
Speaker 1: overspending if you feel this pressure to use some of
Speaker 1: these teams that have Cleveland's a hundred and ten thousand
Speaker 1: dollars million million, it's ridiculous. Like when you need a tackle,
Speaker 1: let's say you need a tackle, there's literally not a
Speaker 1: tackle available, So what are you gonna do with your
Speaker 1: cap space? Very aggressive posture from Gregg A state of
Speaker 1: Louisiana coaster looks like no guns. I love it. Here.
Speaker 1: Here's the positive. Because it's better to have more money
Speaker 1: than less money. I get what you guys are saying,
Speaker 1: but let's use the Browns as an example. Let's say
Speaker 1: they go all out for Kirk Cousins and they offer
Speaker 1: that guy, you know, a hundred twenty million guaranteed. Even
Speaker 1: after they do that, they'll still have more money as
Speaker 1: much money as anyone else. Pretty much every team going
Speaker 1: after you guys do that. Well, that's not exactly true, though,
Speaker 1: I think so, because you have two teams in the
Speaker 1: Jets and Browns, that have more money than anyone so
Speaker 1: they can pay more. They can because they can't do
Speaker 1: a contract that it would allow almost anyone to get
Speaker 1: this year's cap. I don't think you can come up
Speaker 1: with a team that wants Kirk Cousins that couldn't pay
Speaker 1: him the highest salary in NFL history by leaps and
Speaker 1: bounds and still have plenty of cap without making cuts.
Speaker 1: Vikings have fifty. Then if this is true, then what
Speaker 1: are we doing here with the cap, what does in
Speaker 1: the last couple I think five years ago, maybe this
Speaker 1: was a different conversation it started to get jacked up.
Speaker 1: That might be too high. If this is the real
Speaker 1: conversation we're having that it doesn't matter like most players
Speaker 1: start to get like quarterbacks, the quarterback salaries are gonna skyrocket.
Speaker 1: Other salaries are. I think sky salaries should go up.
Speaker 1: The players have deserved it. Basically, let's dig one level deeper.
Speaker 1: The fall off and the quality of play in the
Speaker 1: NFL is directly related two teams failing to pay established veterans.
Speaker 1: They don't pay them anymore unless you're top of the
Speaker 1: line high guy. If you're a mid tier starter, you
Speaker 1: don't get paid. People would just rather go with f picks.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll start to see some of those guys get
Speaker 1: paid again in the quality of football will go up. Greg,
Speaker 1: you got a little spooked and you didn't put this
Speaker 1: gentleman on your list, But we're gonna bring it up
Speaker 1: right now on the show. Honey Badger in Arizona. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna get possible. I didn't. I don't
Speaker 1: think he's gonna get cut. So I didn't think he
Speaker 1: fit on this list, and I might write about him,
Speaker 1: uh separately. I think that he could be a trade candidate,
Speaker 1: and his situation is really complicated because he's d nineteen
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed over the next two years if if
Speaker 1: they decided to pick up the option in his contract,
Speaker 1: and I don't think they felt like he played at
Speaker 1: that level. But I'm like, how many honey Badgers are
Speaker 1: there out there? I think, again, why not try to
Speaker 1: keep him? See if he can regain that form another
Speaker 1: year away from surgery. He did down the stretch this year.
Speaker 1: He was a much different player from Thanksgiving on than
Speaker 1: he was early in the season. But I think he
Speaker 1: could be traded because they found someone they like in
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker that does some similar things. It's a different
Speaker 1: regime and he I think he would be very traitable.
Speaker 1: What about another As long as we're talking about guys
Speaker 1: who spooked Greg, what about in Dominican Sue? Is he
Speaker 1: a guy who could be cut? Well? There are whispers
Speaker 1: actually while we were taping this that Dolphins ownership is
Speaker 1: that the people connected to Ross would be ready to
Speaker 1: move on, potentially from Sue, who was at the time
Speaker 1: of his signing was three years ago, no, three off
Speaker 1: seasons ago, the highest paid player in the NFL, or
Speaker 1: at least it'd be logical. But I did ask around
Speaker 1: on that one, and it felt like it felt like
Speaker 1: they weren't going to cut him, that they think he's
Speaker 1: too good, that they've cut a lot of other people before.
Speaker 1: So you're the a t N insider. I'm checking in
Speaker 1: with other insid Thank you very much here N dot
Speaker 1: com dot com dot com dot com. And you said,
Speaker 1: by the way, Greg before that I haven't broken anything
Speaker 1: in a while. I can't remember who got that exclusive
Speaker 1: on the field after the Super Bowl with Colleen Wolf?
Speaker 1: Who else had Connie right after the super Bowl? Hit me, lindsay, wait,
Speaker 1: I'll give it to you. But you essentially just spoke
Speaker 1: to your friend on the field. That was one of
Speaker 1: my another way to put it, was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite moments in our podcast history, you know, So I
Speaker 1: I gave you all the credit for that. I was
Speaker 1: just wandering around and I saw Dan and I was like,
Speaker 1: thank God, someone I know someone it's clothes broke news
Speaker 1: and I want a sandwich off that because I'm the
Speaker 1: one person that said that you would, Oh yeah, so
Speaker 1: what's so what's happening here? I don't know. That was
Speaker 1: Patra's uh prop not mine? How you get up with Patrick?
Speaker 1: How subpar would that drop me? If the dolphins weren't involved.
Speaker 1: The great law sid uh doing her thing right now
Speaker 1: in uh b y b y U former podcast producer,
Speaker 1: our former podcast. It was her idea to put the
Speaker 1: dolphin killer singer. Yeah, unfortunately, I have to say the
Speaker 1: best singer in the history of this podcast that it's fine.
Speaker 1: I wasn't singing, I was rapping. Did you hear she
Speaker 1: literally sang the national It was awesome? Did you hear
Speaker 1: Lindsay actually did her own version of Odds and Ends
Speaker 1: last week? No? I didn't hear. Check it out? All right?
Speaker 1: Was it this? What day? Was that long last Thursday?
Speaker 1: And thank you for listening to our show calling that
Speaker 1: was that was the parade day? You guys heard she
Speaker 1: was hosted. I had already started by celebrating. We didn't
Speaker 1: expect you to listen to it live. Yeah, that would
Speaker 1: have been really weird. Um, Okay, anything else great? Anybody
Speaker 1: else WO want to throw out there? I think the
Speaker 1: Broncos are really interesting with a keep to leave because
Speaker 1: he's still playing at a very high level. But the
Speaker 1: buzz seems to be that he's gonna get cut, which
Speaker 1: is surprised. I mean, he's gonna be turnee thirty three,
Speaker 1: but he was still playing great and then there's some
Speaker 1: hot and and Ian Rappaport said, the belief is that
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders will stick around with the Broncos, but I
Speaker 1: think there was some thought that maybe he would be
Speaker 1: dangled in a trade and he would be he would
Speaker 1: be a high quality player to be out there. I
Speaker 1: think he can still play. But their receivers went from
Speaker 1: being arguably the best one to punch in the NFL
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago to being last year. It
Speaker 1: seemed like a competitive liability. I thought so. I thought
Speaker 1: they looked really old last year, the two of them together,
Speaker 1: and Emmanuel Sanders dropped a lot of passes for a
Speaker 1: guy whose hands were phenomenal in two thousand fourteen. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's not that crazy for him to be traded. Then, well,
Speaker 1: he's playing through injuries too. You never know what guys
Speaker 1: who are twenty nine or thirty, whether it's a sign
Speaker 1: that they're towing the cliff or whether it's just a
Speaker 1: bad season and they bounce back the next year, and
Speaker 1: John Elway didn't exactly give them a vote of confidence
Speaker 1: either when he was asked about them at the Senior Bowl.
Speaker 1: I'm I want to see what your Eagles do they
Speaker 1: have And they're the literal the only team Colleen over
Speaker 1: the salary cap right now. And and usually you look
Speaker 1: at a roster like that and think, oh, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of dead weight. Their problem is they have too
Speaker 1: many good contracts practically ever there ten million over there.
Speaker 1: They won't be able to keep Trey Burton, which practically
Speaker 1: which is a great problem to have. I don't see
Speaker 1: a lot of overvalued contracts on that team. They mostly
Speaker 1: look like people are getting what they're worth. Tori Smith.
Speaker 1: Maybe you get rid of Brent Selik might retire. It
Speaker 1: won't be hard for them to get under but they're
Speaker 1: not going to be very active and they might have
Speaker 1: to make a tough choice or two. So there you go,
Speaker 1: check it out. Trade them away. That would be surprising, right,
Speaker 1: They have amazing insurance there. With their star quarterback coming
Speaker 1: off a c L injury could happen, though I think
Speaker 1: it happened right trades. That's the good thing about this.
Speaker 1: All this cap spaces teams are. It's easier to just
Speaker 1: make sure crazy trades. Tell Mike Glennon how great it is.
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna be cut. Greg with these coasters. You're
Speaker 1: killing me the whole show. I got a picture of
Speaker 1: you just around. You know. Sometimes I like to throw
Speaker 1: out a new kind of slogans for the NFL. That
Speaker 1: one was very organic. Ready, the NFL, it's a crazy league.
Speaker 1: That's that's good. Okay, I like that as always. I
Speaker 1: don't I'm not hurt if you don't like it. It's
Speaker 1: I like that. I thought you were going to say
Speaker 1: the NFL anything can happen. I feel like Vince McMahon
Speaker 1: might actually use that for the XFL. You know, Union
Speaker 1: Lindsey mad at you. That's that's Uncle Vince. I mean
Speaker 1: the league that will never happen. No Triple h is
Speaker 1: Uncle Paul, Vince's Grandpa's before we go? Where are we
Speaker 1: at with the Chris Westling save our Westling? Uh? I
Speaker 1: said that save feris? Yeah, where are we at? Because
Speaker 1: I know the listeners and not just the listeners. Also,
Speaker 1: the football Cogna Centi have really stepped up. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: been incredible since we announced the uh GO fund me
Speaker 1: to anyone who didn't hear about it for Chris's medical
Speaker 1: costs on this podcast. And then we sent a couple
Speaker 1: of tweets out right around when the podcast came out
Speaker 1: that as we're taping this that was less than forty
Speaker 1: eight hours ago. In in less than two days, we
Speaker 1: are almost at Wes's goal. We we by the time
Speaker 1: people listen to this and everyone should you know, go
Speaker 1: to the go fund me search for Chris Westling's name,
Speaker 1: or check out my Twitter or anyone else's Twitter in
Speaker 1: the last few days. Uh, you can put us over
Speaker 1: the top, because I think I think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It happens time you here. This will probably be over
Speaker 1: the top. We are right there. It's overwhelming, don't you.
Speaker 1: It's overwhelming for me by proxy, just like looking how
Speaker 1: it makes you feel good about the human the human
Speaker 1: people out there. Yeah. I've often said that cynicism is poison,
Speaker 1: and there's no there's no better thing in my life
Speaker 1: that's ever happened than to see this outpouring of love
Speaker 1: and support. And it's overwhelming. It's an emotional overload for
Speaker 1: me and it and it happened in a week where
Speaker 1: the other night was the most pain I've been in
Speaker 1: since surgery. There are still issues with eating and drinking,
Speaker 1: and there are setbacks. Um. You know, for all the
Speaker 1: Europeans who have questions about our health care system, it's
Speaker 1: not that the NFL's insurance hasn't paid for a lot
Speaker 1: of it. They have. It's just that there are a
Speaker 1: lot of costs that have come up along the way.
Speaker 1: The vocal cord injections that I paid for out of pocket,
Speaker 1: there are uh issues with the rental equipment on on
Speaker 1: feeding tubes and all kinds of just cost that you
Speaker 1: don't even imagine happening. And and I am so appreciative
Speaker 1: of everyone of the sport, of the messages people have
Speaker 1: left along with the money. It's just it's overwhelming for me.
Speaker 1: And I'll probably sit down and have a big cry
Speaker 1: at some point. Thank you to everyone, good stuff, Thank
Speaker 1: you everyone that's done it. Because the listeners especially have
Speaker 1: stepped up. You're right, a lot of great people around
Speaker 1: kind of the industry who suspect West have as well,
Speaker 1: but a ton of listeners, including Ton over season, these
Speaker 1: are the best listeners. It's cool. It's almost like a gift,
Speaker 1: and a lot of it was thank you us for
Speaker 1: what for kind of what you've given them in terms
Speaker 1: of entertainment over in the podcast, and they're happy to
Speaker 1: have somewhere to help. Oh, it's it's amazing what it
Speaker 1: can mean to people who just know, Like people who
Speaker 1: grew up with me have read some of the comments
Speaker 1: and have said they started crying, and you know it
Speaker 1: just you know, my brothers and my mom when they
Speaker 1: see that stuff, they love it. The paramore has you know,
Speaker 1: you know that that she raised me up a few
Speaker 1: levels in her eyes just seeing that stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: she's gotten emotional. I I guess a few times. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: great news, great stuff real quick. When when we first
Speaker 1: saw this, I said to John, I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: they have a go fund me for West And John
Speaker 1: was like, give him a bank account, give him, just
Speaker 1: give him everything. Is he the money man in your family?
Speaker 1: He's not. He's not great managing the money. Him a
Speaker 1: bank aco ate. Just just so everyone pull back the curtain,
Speaker 1: open the kimono. Colleen and Gonzo living a shelter and
Speaker 1: sent him monic because of Gonzo's out of control. John
Speaker 1: rend a switch writer, was married anfil media broadcaster College Wolf.
Speaker 1: John who is a pisces resides in Los Angeles with
Speaker 1: his wife and jew dogs. So there you have it.
Speaker 1: We will be back on Friday. Uh um and just
Speaker 1: wanted to bang that um U r L at one
Speaker 1: more time in case we don't go over. Yeah, go
Speaker 1: go fund me dot com slash Chris Wesleyan takes out
Speaker 1: the Big Sea. But if you again, it's on Twitter
Speaker 1: link and or just search Chris's name on go fund me.
Speaker 1: We will be back on Friday with our third show
Speaker 1: we just found. Roger Goodell sends an email out of
Speaker 1: company wide email saying that hey, everybody, take the freaking
Speaker 1: day off. That's actually in the email. Yeah, he's send
Speaker 1: it out to Hey, yo, it's Frog take the freaking
Speaker 1: day off, signed Frog, And uh, you know, we have
Speaker 1: a scheduled podcast and we have sponsorship, uh necessities in
Speaker 1: terms of scheduling, so we can't go anywhere. Well not
Speaker 1: everyone could just throw a responsibility out the window. I've
Speaker 1: been tracking this. This about the fourth year in a row.
Speaker 1: This has happened to us. The day to day off
Speaker 1: came to everyone except oh you, Friday afternoon never really
Speaker 1: applied to the media because it's not the media group
Speaker 1: which is like five people out here more because the
Speaker 1: website has to stay online, and that the network, the network,
Speaker 1: and and if it went down and all these little
Speaker 1: precious features went away from one day, what would happen?
Speaker 1: I always do wonder though, because you're right, he does
Speaker 1: this every year. And he said, you guys did such
Speaker 1: a great job in Minneapolis, Like you get this this
Speaker 1: day off. But at some point you know we've done
Speaker 1: a great job every year. Yeah, well, is it on
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day? Every year? It's maybe is a really big
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day? Guy? Well, Roger Goodell shares, uh, maybe he
Speaker 1: wants to get a long weekend because he shares a
Speaker 1: birthday with Chris Westling and and myself up the three
Speaker 1: of us. Everyone calls us the three amigos of the NFL.
Speaker 1: Roger Western. Yeah, President's Day, Monday, Wow, a lot of
Speaker 1: good stuff. Birthday stuff, fun birthday times. Everyone loves to
Speaker 1: celebrate funthday. Trying to get out of the show. Do
Speaker 1: your best fun Birthday times? What was your thing about? Human?
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