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Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis
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Speaker 1: Westling and Greg Rose withal what's up boys, Hey Dan,
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Speaker 1: the listeners, it's actually not that cold. I grew up
Speaker 1: in the cold town. It's a little you know, the
Speaker 1: winters could be rough. The wind will cut right through you.
Speaker 1: And sometimes the only way to get away from it
Speaker 1: go about four ft under the ground, nice and warm
Speaker 1: under there, Magma bad news. Sometimes you don't come back up.
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Speaker 1: temperature controlled podcast studio reading right here, that Pearl River,
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Speaker 1: for millennials in the entire state of New York. It
Speaker 1: sounds like a real rough and tumble, white night millennial
Speaker 1: I basically, you know from according to our Twitter followers,
Speaker 1: every once in a while we hear that it's basically
Speaker 1: a hideout for you know, Wall Street. Fat cats buyed
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Speaker 1: lot of cops, and a lot of miners. You are miners,
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Speaker 1: A lot to get to some big news. One of
Speaker 1: the top cornerbacks in football. Uh, looks like he's heading
Speaker 1: elsewhere in We are also going to go through uh
Speaker 1: some reports around the league, UH with our good good
Speaker 1: uh colleague rap sheet rumors round up the rap sheet
Speaker 1: rumors roundup like that. We are also going to debut
Speaker 1: a news segment forgiveness. Forgiveness. Okay, let's fight through with
Speaker 1: the little stay. Um. Forgiveness don't mean the Don Henley banger.
Speaker 1: I love that song though, remember that one? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: well youve this if you don't love me here did you?
Speaker 1: Were you aware of that song? Greg? No, like most
Speaker 1: of our most of our listeners, that's dated. That's two dates.
Speaker 1: I think that might have been a really ill conceived
Speaker 1: homecoming theme song one of my high school years. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: because it was like one of those years were literally
Speaker 1: no one basically went some council of student council people
Speaker 1: decide the song, and no one was happy with their dates,
Speaker 1: so we picked a really cynical old song. More evidence,
Speaker 1: Gregg that you were born an age thirty two by
Speaker 1: the way, you were like in junior. Like, if that
Speaker 1: means more you've massed your entire childhood based on something
Speaker 1: that you don't want to bring up as an adult.
Speaker 1: I mean, if if that means that I missed that
Speaker 1: on the Don Henley catalog, I'm fine. Greg's like our
Speaker 1: Dick Whitman, this whole past as a mystery. Uh. Yes,
Speaker 1: So we will talk about forgiveness. Who do we forgive?
Speaker 1: As we Uh? They look forward to a new season,
Speaker 1: and we promised it on Wednesday, we'll hit the mail bag.
Speaker 1: So a lot to get to really exciting before we
Speaker 1: do the news. Uh. Lindsay Fulton, our producer behind the
Speaker 1: Glass before Thursday show, had told us that she had, um,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say absent mindedly, but an ex
Speaker 1: boyfriend had invested in bitcoin once upon the time, and
Speaker 1: she told us the way was being explained to us, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: and tell me if I'm off here. Um. Lindsay seemed
Speaker 1: to be thinking it was a coin flip Weather cashing
Speaker 1: in on that bitcoin was gonna make her a millionaire.
Speaker 1: She said that you would probably know by today's show.
Speaker 1: She said she is likely a millionaire. Likely, she said,
Speaker 1: likely she is a millionaire because of the bitcoin that
Speaker 1: she bought ten years ago. All right, so let's not
Speaker 1: throw up behind the glass, Lindsay, are you a millionaire?
Speaker 1: I haven't checked yet find the bitcoin? How is that
Speaker 1: on the back burner? First of all, I bought the bitcoin,
Speaker 1: not my ex boyfriend. I bought it, so it's mine.
Speaker 1: Second of all, like I said, it was being used,
Speaker 1: He suggested I purchased it for my ex boyfriend suggested
Speaker 1: I purchased the bitcoins for shady internet activity. I think
Speaker 1: you know things that aren't legal in Ohio that are
Speaker 1: legal in California. Okay, so I made like a fake
Speaker 1: email address to buy just so it couldn't get traced
Speaker 1: back to me. And I need to like dig deep
Speaker 1: into where which one of those JUNO or a O
Speaker 1: L email addresses. It's gonna how how are you not
Speaker 1: doing that the second you leave work or during work?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do anything, she said she I wouldn't eat
Speaker 1: because she's already said she's likely a millionaire, so there's
Speaker 1: no real like rush right now. She's gonna just I
Speaker 1: just have to find it. But to Greg's point, the
Speaker 1: lack of motivation around uncovering this large Jess is I
Speaker 1: find it's a bit puzzling. I would be all over it.
Speaker 1: I have to sit down and really look for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well what did you do last night? Actually? I went home.
Speaker 1: I went home and I went to sleep. I was
Speaker 1: working working hard. I went home and I went to sleep.
Speaker 1: I think this bodes well that her, as Mark said,
Speaker 1: her new found large Jess is not going to change her.
Speaker 1: And remember, lindsay, when if it does in into a
Speaker 1: major seven to eight figure um pay out, that we
Speaker 1: were all supportive of you and uh and we love
Speaker 1: having you as a producer and uh and honest talk
Speaker 1: here if you do, let's clear, five million, are you
Speaker 1: done as our producer? That's not enough to like not
Speaker 1: work on again? Of course it is. What are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Court? It is I would be gone in
Speaker 1: one second if I had five I would not ever
Speaker 1: walk through the door like Mark would begone if you
Speaker 1: give them five thousand. Yeah, let's what's the number you
Speaker 1: can live off of the number of a five dollar
Speaker 1: bank account for quite a little over under one million
Speaker 1: dollars that you would be gone one million, I would.
Speaker 1: I would set my own terms and say I work
Speaker 1: from home essentially. I occasionally call in for like a
Speaker 1: two minute segment on the pod maybe, and I'll file
Speaker 1: something when I feel like it. If anything above a million,
Speaker 1: nothing that look for work that you know you like
Speaker 1: more than working the rest of us. I have a
Speaker 1: I have frivolous spending habits, you know, I like to exactly,
Speaker 1: so I'd be a little bit worried that it wouldn't last.
Speaker 1: You could buy a the local can't the Yankee candle
Speaker 1: in the mall of America and run that store. That
Speaker 1: could be your job. That was a pretty good store,
Speaker 1: and did stop there I had to pay extra to
Speaker 1: to bring some of the candles back here. I think
Speaker 1: candles just tallow and in a wick. That's a for
Speaker 1: the candle for the Yankee Candle Podcast. All right, let's
Speaker 1: do some news. Good luck, Lindsay, Hey, New York City.
Speaker 1: I'm here, I got the Yankees hat on. I'm headed
Speaker 1: the spring training on Monday. I can't wait to see
Speaker 1: you guys. Hey, Aaron Judge, I know you want to
Speaker 1: throw some ball passes, So let's let's play some ball
Speaker 1: and uh, we'll see. We'll have a little home run
Speaker 1: d every two. Stay and I'm coming for you to well.
Speaker 1: Have some fun, baby, and let's go win the World Series?
Speaker 1: Why not? Someone I gotta kick out of Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: who in a publicity stunt now is in the Yankees
Speaker 1: farm system, saying and it felt it felt kind of
Speaker 1: and I let's go win a World Series. Does he
Speaker 1: think he's actually on the Yankeesmith, He's finally on your team,
Speaker 1: just the wrong one. I like the fact he has
Speaker 1: a newborn child and he's just like, yeah, I'll see
Speaker 1: you later. I've got some important work to do for
Speaker 1: the Yankees. For a couple of weeks, it's not like
Speaker 1: I'll be busy during the football season anyways. The field
Speaker 1: grounders in Florida for three weeks. Good luck to you, Russell. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's do some news. Start with the big big trade
Speaker 1: or the trade that's soon to be. Where are we
Speaker 1: at on this it's it's it's pretty much a done.
Speaker 1: Deals rap Sheet reported that the Kansas City Chiefs have
Speaker 1: finally finalized a trade agreement Friday to ship cornerback Marcus
Speaker 1: Peter to the Marcus Peters to the rams Uh. ESPN
Speaker 1: first reported the deal. We don't have the terms of
Speaker 1: the deal as of yet. The rams Uh do not
Speaker 1: own second round pick UH. They sent that way to
Speaker 1: get Sammy Watkins, but they are going to now have
Speaker 1: UH Marcus Peters and Greg will start with you on
Speaker 1: this one, the rams Uh. This feels like a great
Speaker 1: trade and we don't know what they're what they're descending back,
Speaker 1: but for a team that seems very close Los Angeles
Speaker 1: to now get uh upper to your cornerback seems like
Speaker 1: a major win win for them. It's a It's a
Speaker 1: tough one to evaluate the value, especially from the chief side,
Speaker 1: So we'll just have to wait and see on that
Speaker 1: but from the RAMS side, it's such a great marriage
Speaker 1: of player in scheme. You know, some coaches have a
Speaker 1: quarterback friendly or quarterback proof offense. Wade Phillips has a
Speaker 1: cornerback friendly defense. When I did that feature on him
Speaker 1: last year, all the defensive backs talked about that this
Speaker 1: is a defensive back friendly scheme because the ball gets
Speaker 1: out of the quarterback's hands so quickly that leads to
Speaker 1: big time interception totals. It really favors cornerbacks who can
Speaker 1: play man to man defense and who have ball skills. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that's Marcus Peters in a nutshell. No one has
Speaker 1: better ball skills, no one has better instincts in terms
Speaker 1: of going after the ball uh than Marcus Peters. And
Speaker 1: I think he's not gonna have to cover as long
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles as he did in Kansas City. And
Speaker 1: I just think he can become a dominant player. And
Speaker 1: it's at a cheap price. I mean, they are paying
Speaker 1: him very little for the two thousand eighteen season, and
Speaker 1: they have his rights for the two thousand nineteen season
Speaker 1: at the fifth year option level, which is another bargain.
Speaker 1: So to me, it's a very safe pick up in
Speaker 1: terms of improving their team for the next two years
Speaker 1: one point eight million he's scheduled to earn. Over the
Speaker 1: last three years, no cornerback has a lower opposer passer
Speaker 1: rating on throws in his direction than Marcus Peters. He
Speaker 1: also has seven more interceptions than any other cornerback over
Speaker 1: those three years, and all of that tells me that
Speaker 1: somebody very high up in the Chiefs organization did not
Speaker 1: want to make a decision on his fifth year option
Speaker 1: by may or extend him for big money. I I
Speaker 1: love this by the Rams because it's another example of
Speaker 1: less sneed, who I think a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: on this podcast has another places you kind of wondering
Speaker 1: what the less need experience was going to bring to
Speaker 1: the Rams. Ultimately, aggressive they're gonna lose Treumaine Johnson and
Speaker 1: Cavon Webster is coming off in Achilles tear. So you
Speaker 1: needed to address this position, and they've done it within
Speaker 1: the best possible way. I want to know what they've
Speaker 1: given up, though, because it has to be what they've
Speaker 1: given up, because they the Chiefs initially wanted Robert Quinn
Speaker 1: as part of the deal that's not happening. But to
Speaker 1: find out that the forty Niners and Browns also pursued him.
Speaker 1: Pursued this player that the forty Niners and Browns have
Speaker 1: way more if it's a third rounder compared to a
Speaker 1: third rounder from the Chiefs. It's higher in every single category.
Speaker 1: The Browns could have given up way more than you
Speaker 1: think the Rams would have. So I'm wondering what this package.
Speaker 1: It's probably pretty aggressive, it must be, to your point,
Speaker 1: and it might include a first round pick, not this year,
Speaker 1: but maybe maybe next year or something like that, or
Speaker 1: or future picks. There are maturity issues of course. If
Speaker 1: you remember back at the meadow Lands earlier last season.
Speaker 1: Are in the middle of last season when he um
Speaker 1: threw a LTI flag into the crowd, left the state,
Speaker 1: left the field, was not ejected, an embarrassing scene. But
Speaker 1: then after that he got suspended a game, which was
Speaker 1: a big deal because at that point the Chiefs were
Speaker 1: in tatters, their season seemed like it was going down.
Speaker 1: They still suspended because that's so that tells you how,
Speaker 1: you know, pissed they were at him. Then he came
Speaker 1: back and played at an all pro level the rest
Speaker 1: of the season. So it seems like maybe what we
Speaker 1: saw against the Jets and that game, they probably have
Speaker 1: been annoyed by him or have been had their patients
Speaker 1: tested one too many times and they decided to move on.
Speaker 1: If you're the Rams and you say to the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: I really want to steal that happen, give us an
Speaker 1: give me an honest take, if I'm less need on
Speaker 1: what this player's issues are in the locker room, why
Speaker 1: you'd want to give up this player? Do you get
Speaker 1: any sort of an honest answer from the Chiefs? I
Speaker 1: would say absolutely not. There's well, there's no way, there's
Speaker 1: no way to really know what he's like. But I
Speaker 1: think to West's point earlier, I think the Chiefs had
Speaker 1: made a decision. They were never gonna make him the
Speaker 1: highest paid cornerback in the league or close to it,
Speaker 1: which is what a long term deal eventually would have
Speaker 1: cost for him. And you have to believe it's because
Speaker 1: of his behind the scenes issues, not his play, which
Speaker 1: has sometimes been a little streaky but overall has obviously
Speaker 1: been excellent. Well, one of my hast thought on this
Speaker 1: before the start of the league year, the Chiefs have
Speaker 1: traded their most valuable offensive and defensive players. The A
Speaker 1: F C. West is wide open and this looks like
Speaker 1: it looks like a rebuilding team to me. Pete Peters
Speaker 1: and we should mention was left out in the cold
Speaker 1: by his college team. Washington wanted nothing to do with him.
Speaker 1: It's the only reason even felt to number eighteen. Kind
Speaker 1: of like a Dez Bryant situation where he probably would
Speaker 1: have been a top five pick in terms of his talent.
Speaker 1: So that that's now a couple of different teams that
Speaker 1: have given up on him. But I love that the
Speaker 1: Rams are just going for it. The Rams, the Rams.
Speaker 1: Let's make him the team of a t L again
Speaker 1: in two thousand eighteen. Uh, that was that's unprecedented, But
Speaker 1: we can talk about it plenty of time. Let's move
Speaker 1: on a team in the a f C that a
Speaker 1: of stability is the Jacksonville Jaguars, who of course made
Speaker 1: it all the way to the a f C title game,
Speaker 1: uh last season in the first year together for Doug
Speaker 1: Moron and UM head coach Doug Maron, executive vice president
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin, and general manager Dave Caldwell. Nice start to that. Uh,
Speaker 1: what do you what do they call it? Not a trifecta,
Speaker 1: a triumbriant, triumvirant, trium britt or triad, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: a trio. I'm just gonna go with those battling nail
Speaker 1: Let's just go trip anyway, the Jags had it out
Speaker 1: contract extensions to all three men uh deals that run
Speaker 1: through one uh. So mark the Jags obviously like the
Speaker 1: direction the organization's going and stability is always good. I
Speaker 1: mean these extensions. If everything suddenly uh went south very quickly,
Speaker 1: it's on the owner to pay it. It's not on
Speaker 1: the cap, So extend all you want. But I think
Speaker 1: it's a it's a sign that the Jaguars are saying,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're Tom Coughlin and Doug Maron. It's
Speaker 1: a nod to David Caldwell, who rafted well. I think
Speaker 1: that Gus Bradley did very little with the players that
Speaker 1: he brought on. But the trio of them feel poised
Speaker 1: to go the distance together and it and it should
Speaker 1: snuff out if there were any remaining there were when
Speaker 1: this first, when they first hired Tom Coughlin. Oh, could
Speaker 1: Coughlin at some point get the itch and like replace
Speaker 1: Maron and become the coach. Well that was nonsense very
Speaker 1: shortly into that journey. But at this point. I think
Speaker 1: they're sit They're set to sit down and say, our
Speaker 1: super Bowl window is open. We've got to address the
Speaker 1: quarterback position. But if we do that, who knows. You
Speaker 1: got five years together, and this was a contract I
Speaker 1: think given because unlike most coaches, Maron kind of signed
Speaker 1: a prove it deal as a coach. Just he only
Speaker 1: had a couple of years on his initial contract, less
Speaker 1: than you normally see because he had risen up from
Speaker 1: the interim. It's like it was kind of a prove
Speaker 1: it contract as coaches go. And I'm sure his agent,
Speaker 1: you know, wanted that to be fixed. Now that they
Speaker 1: made the playoffs and you line up all three guys
Speaker 1: and a lot of the Caldwell decisions that he made
Speaker 1: helped set up this run that they had on defense.
Speaker 1: The free agency moves some weren't great, but for the
Speaker 1: most part, they did a pretty good job adding players
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen. Two thousand and sixteen took Kauflin and
Speaker 1: Maron one year to go from a streak of the
Speaker 1: worst record in the NFL to the doorstep of the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. One player that won't be involved going forward,
Speaker 1: by the way, is Chris Ivory. The team cut ties
Speaker 1: with the running back you signed a big free agent
Speaker 1: deal a couple of years ago. Every figures to find work,
Speaker 1: but he won't find the same contract. Where is he
Speaker 1: gonna fall in the top one and one free agent?
Speaker 1: Is that the scientists are cooking up? Oh you should
Speaker 1: have seen it Mark downstairs. The scientists saying things that
Speaker 1: they couldn't taken back. Uh, fighting over of people like
Speaker 1: Frank Gore? Oh, or does a J. Mccaren go just
Speaker 1: hissing at each other? And I think, while it's distressing
Speaker 1: to say, you understand it's coming from a place of passion. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it'st This couldn't be more exaggerated or misunderstood. But I
Speaker 1: get that because Dan, you know Dan, not man that's
Speaker 1: used to conflict just normally. It's not comfortable with it.
Speaker 1: And so he sees two men just having a discussion
Speaker 1: and he doesn't know what to do. Okay, Well that
Speaker 1: felt like a slight projection by Crag. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: even know what that was really bad. We can maybe
Speaker 1: dig into that after the show in a private conversation.
Speaker 1: If you're looking for some real conflict, I'll be the
Speaker 1: park lots what I'm saying. We'll talk it out man.
Speaker 1: The man or parking lot is is thick with NFL security,
Speaker 1: and maybe take it down to Alonda Drive or maybe
Speaker 1: the cozy. In a fight in the cozy sounds fun.
Speaker 1: They would welcome that, like they've never seen a fight before.
Speaker 1: What were we talking about? Oh so Chris, where's Chris
Speaker 1: Ivory fall? Probably outside the one I won. Maybe he'll
Speaker 1: bump Frank Gore out. Yeah, probably towards the end. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would. My initial instinct would be not on it
Speaker 1: at all, But then I realized we do have Doug
Speaker 1: Martin and Gore there on there, So I've reased in
Speaker 1: that mix. All right, Now it's time to move on
Speaker 1: to Oh yeah, there's so much news to dig through,
Speaker 1: So let's take a spin around with our rap sheet rumors.
Speaker 1: Round up like a round up, like a cowboy thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get along, rap sheet rumors, round up, good pivot. All right,
Speaker 1: this is all reports coming from Ian Rappaport or NFL
Speaker 1: Media Insider. Will start with Sammy Watkins. A free agent.
Speaker 1: Rap sheet reported that the Niners, Bears, and Browns all
Speaker 1: teams to watch on Sammy Watkins. Well. This was prompted
Speaker 1: by the report that LaMarcus Joyner will likely draw the
Speaker 1: Rams franchise tag, allowing Sammy Watkins to reach the open market,
Speaker 1: and once he gets their rap sheets said, look at
Speaker 1: the teams that have wide receiver needs forty Niners and
Speaker 1: bears Brown's. I've heard them connected to Trail prior Reunion
Speaker 1: again and addition to other things too. But Brown's got
Speaker 1: to spend this money somewhere. Niners feel like they're in
Speaker 1: on everybody. Yeah, I think that's absolutely right. And I
Speaker 1: think if LaMarcus Joiner had been available, if they had
Speaker 1: gone that way and let him go to market. We
Speaker 1: don't know for sure, We're not sure, but that's what
Speaker 1: I think the Niners and Browns would be after him too.
Speaker 1: I like that move keeping LaMarcus joyner sneaky cut candidates
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins. It does point out that these risky less
Speaker 1: need trades, you know, they don't all work. They gave
Speaker 1: up a second round pick for five yards of Sammy
Speaker 1: Watkins trade, they would flat out cut him. I think
Speaker 1: I think that's the possibility because just just watch it.
Speaker 1: Monitor it. Look at Mark, You're talking to some Sparrows.
Speaker 1: It's NFL media insider in his face. I don't think
Speaker 1: an I don't think you want to. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a beloved character behind the scene.
Speaker 1: You know, this is the rap sheet rumors, round up,
Speaker 1: the Sessler rumors round up. We could do that too,
Speaker 1: right after he's got roughly one point five million followers.
Speaker 1: I think he's got more traction in this. The Titans,
Speaker 1: the Bears, the Panthers, and the Saints teams to teams
Speaker 1: to watch on Jarvis Landry, who of course was fran
Speaker 1: chies by the Dolphins this week. And but that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean he's gonna stay with the Dolphins. Could be traded
Speaker 1: all four of those teams? Uh, Greg, which one of
Speaker 1: those teams would you like most to see Landry making
Speaker 1: plays with? You know, about like three yards from the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage next year? The Saints really stood out there.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised by that unless they're just in this sort
Speaker 1: of all in while Drew Brees is here, let's try
Speaker 1: to win the Super Why would it there? And maybe
Speaker 1: maybe that makes sense. I think rap sheet was just
Speaker 1: dot connecting to where he played college ball. You're putting
Speaker 1: this hardcore just like random speculation by the insider. I
Speaker 1: think Ian here's things did inform his speculation, but I
Speaker 1: think that seemed more like you say, is that what
Speaker 1: you're saying was rap sheet actually specifically said played his
Speaker 1: college ball at L s U. It seemed more of
Speaker 1: a Chicago phetograph. Chicago would be interesting. I think they're
Speaker 1: going to spend some money. He would certainly help out
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trobiski. I would want the Panthers have the lowest
Speaker 1: amount of cap from of any of those teams. They
Speaker 1: need to make some moves, but there's whispers that they
Speaker 1: want to overhaul their entire wide receiver department. My Titans
Speaker 1: prediction got deep sixed. We had a video hit and
Speaker 1: then moments later they franchise tag On Landry and deep
Speaker 1: sicked my Landry to Nashville and specul that it was
Speaker 1: a bang. Or the Steelers will listen to Mortavis Bryant
Speaker 1: trade offers. This does not feel surprising at all. Brian
Speaker 1: has been suspended for an entire year. Off the field.
Speaker 1: Issues seemed to be I don't like to use I
Speaker 1: don't like to throw mal content around. It seems like
Speaker 1: I have an ugly word. Some people that organization might
Speaker 1: label him as such. Well, he wasn't happy. He literally
Speaker 1: was a mal content. Just it's kind of a harsh word.
Speaker 1: I mean the the Peters trade. Uh, we've been talking
Speaker 1: about the trade tsunami this week, and the Peters trade
Speaker 1: was the first water lapping up along the shore people.
Speaker 1: But people better run the tsunami is coming. I mean
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick listened to the Niners asked about Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: So I think, yes, it's possible this dealers, who spent
Speaker 1: much of the season trying to get rid of Martavis Bryant,
Speaker 1: would listen to trade offers. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: a massive leap in logic. House of the rap Sheet
Speaker 1: rumors round up going so far, I like it feels,
Speaker 1: it feels okay. It was like a scene undermined by marks.
Speaker 1: That particular bullet point could use some helps mark rap Sheet, Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't try to cook that up. We're gonna get rap
Speaker 1: Sheet on the show in Indianapolis for another rumors round
Speaker 1: up and we'll straighten everything out. Seahawks more likely to
Speaker 1: work out a new deal for Earl Thomas, so, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe slow down. I I already announced months
Speaker 1: ago the Legion of Boom was dead, but now it's
Speaker 1: starting to feel possible that at least Earl Thomas and
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman maybe we'll be back. Does that mean the
Speaker 1: legion of Boom is alive? I don't think so necessarily.
Speaker 1: They were always they still there. They were always the
Speaker 1: two most important. I would say, yeah, he just do
Speaker 1: eight point five million Earl Thomas. They are bottom eating
Speaker 1: cap rooms. So it feels like one of these ones
Speaker 1: where you can create some room and give him an
Speaker 1: extra year or two. That maybe means nothing when you
Speaker 1: boiled it, boil it down. I think if a team
Speaker 1: really like the Cowboys, wanted to give up a nice
Speaker 1: fancy pick for him, they would listen. And that's what
Speaker 1: rap Sheet said, that if you're willing to overpay for
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, then it could get done. Richard Sherman's not
Speaker 1: going anywhere anytime scene because he's still recovering from an
Speaker 1: achilles injury. Uh opening the kimono. West came up with
Speaker 1: the name of this segment and and really the guts
Speaker 1: of it, naving it the rap sheet rumors round up
Speaker 1: off his reporting. Let's take it to that just a
Speaker 1: little bit for a second, a shot at our own insider. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's more rumors season than reporting season when
Speaker 1: it comes to trade interesting want to talk to you
Speaker 1: about that as well. Why why is the right side
Speaker 1: of this table greg and Dan constantly trying to generate
Speaker 1: false heat between Mark West and rap Sheet. We we
Speaker 1: are we are trying to question. We are getting his
Speaker 1: inf We spend all day long getting his information out
Speaker 1: on NFL dot com. The aver Broncos don't want a
Speaker 1: trade Emmanuel Sanders. That makes sense. A nice little player
Speaker 1: play ball ten million dollars against the cap this year,
Speaker 1: had some off the field issues, had some drops issues
Speaker 1: last year, turning thirty years old. But rap Sheet says,
Speaker 1: and this is a good point. If the Broncos want
Speaker 1: to bring in a corner a quarterback, don't you need
Speaker 1: somebody to catch the ball. They have very little proven
Speaker 1: depth behind Sanders and kissing old rap Sheets. Cowboy boots
Speaker 1: to West's point, Bennie Fowler, Jordan Leslie, Tim Patrick River,
Speaker 1: Craig Craft, Harlos Henderson, Isaiah mckns, and Marius Thomas. That
Speaker 1: is your wide receiver group, So Manuel Sanders, maybe keep
Speaker 1: him around. Remember Craig Craft sounds like a Saturday afternoon
Speaker 1: activity Orleans to copy and paste job. Jordan Leslie is
Speaker 1: not a real person, is he? Craig Craft is a person.
Speaker 1: These are all that, this is their depth chart, this
Speaker 1: is this is really them. Carlos Henderson, who they drafted
Speaker 1: the third round. He didn't mention him, but yeah, these
Speaker 1: are real people. Carlos Henderson was the second third to
Speaker 1: last person I mentioned Bills are not planning to cut
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor uh in my weekly Good Week, Bad Week
Speaker 1: column on NFL dot com. I I take issue with this.
Speaker 1: It's like, after year, think of this as a marriage
Speaker 1: between two lovers, and for years now the Bills have
Speaker 1: been emotionally just the emotional neglect upon Tyrod Taylor, who's
Speaker 1: a perfectly perfectly yeah stepping out basically rubbing, rubbing his
Speaker 1: face in their infidelity. And now instead of just setting
Speaker 1: him free and letting him find true love on his own,
Speaker 1: they are talking about the idea or we're being it's
Speaker 1: being insinuated now that they're going to trade him, which
Speaker 1: is an arranged marriage. So now you're gonna potentially force
Speaker 1: him into a negative situation or a situation where he's
Speaker 1: back to being a backup behind some jamoke like Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco again and it's just like a bad karma on you,
Speaker 1: bad relation karma on you, relationship karma on you. But
Speaker 1: I have a theory. They can't chase after anyone like
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. They have needs all over the place despite
Speaker 1: making the playoffs. But how do you get an inexpensive quarterback?
Speaker 1: They have two first in two seconds. They are a
Speaker 1: candidate to trade up and get one of these top
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks. In my mind, yeah, and this is just
Speaker 1: an advertisement. Please give us a pick for Tyrode? Is
Speaker 1: anyone interested in him? Because no one buys that he's
Speaker 1: gonna be on their team next year? And he doesn't
Speaker 1: control something because he's due eighteen million dollars next year,
Speaker 1: so he's not getting traded to be a backup anywhere.
Speaker 1: He only a team that would really really want to
Speaker 1: take on that salary would would go for it. Dan,
Speaker 1: how do you keep the one you love? Treat him right?
Speaker 1: You don't? We love is non possessive, pop ended. Wow,
Speaker 1: I love it though, I mean you're right if you yeah,
Speaker 1: if you love someone you need no desire to keep?
Speaker 1: What is it? What do they say? If you love someone,
Speaker 1: set them free? If they come back to you they're yours.
Speaker 1: That reminds me that since we're talking about Don Henley
Speaker 1: adult contemporary rock, remember that Sting solo song if you
Speaker 1: Love Somebody has set them for absolutely you know that
Speaker 1: one Greg Henley pod Sting who lit up the super
Speaker 1: Bowl pregame show. I don't have lit ups the right word.
Speaker 1: The shaggy came out, shaggy out together. Yeah. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that they are very close friends. It's an unusual
Speaker 1: parent like like Don Henley, a big hit with like
Speaker 1: mid fifties bankers Sting. Sting has roots and scam music,
Speaker 1: which is similar to reggae. Ah, there you go. Greg
Speaker 1: hates all people older than him, even if they're six
Speaker 1: or seven months older than you can standing well, No, Greg,
Speaker 1: who wants everyone to know this is like back in
Speaker 1: his Delaware days with his purple hair and mumbling into
Speaker 1: the mic. You're just still counterculture, man. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's counterculture that not base the music design for the man.
Speaker 1: It's like dead Milkman mixtape falling out of his back pocket.
Speaker 1: Henley and staying our counter culture at this point, and
Speaker 1: you know that the the the culture has passed them by.
Speaker 1: Finally a little extra bonus rumors round up this one
Speaker 1: for a little Tom Pellicero Pop, Little Pellicero Pop. Sam
Speaker 1: Bradford depending free agent. He's made over a D fourteen
Speaker 1: million dollars in his career, he doesn't need to work,
Speaker 1: but Pellicero says that Sam Bradford quote absolutely wants to
Speaker 1: play in twenty eighteen. What the to me? What I
Speaker 1: got out of this report was Pellicero spoke with Dr
Speaker 1: James Andrews, who went out to clean out a bone
Speaker 1: spur and some cartilage damage in bradford'sknee and said the
Speaker 1: joint itself is sound, ligaments intact, no reason for concerned
Speaker 1: going forward. Why why would there be any concern? You know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like written, Sam Bradford off, But no,
Speaker 1: I'm not. But I think it would be insane not
Speaker 1: to be concerned, considering they had no idea why he
Speaker 1: couldn't play football last year and he's had multiple UH surgeries,
Speaker 1: reconspective surgeries. I just watched for the first time my nieces.
Speaker 1: I have a seven year old niece and a five
Speaker 1: year old niece who are here this week. Both girls
Speaker 1: huge fans of a league of their own. I rewatched
Speaker 1: the film with them. Quite an enjoyable movie, even though
Speaker 1: it's old. Greg, I like that movie. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: it in a long time, but I remember Jimmy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Dugan who played played by Tom Hanks. The manager
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford made me think of it. I have no
Speaker 1: cartilage in my knee. And Curtis Martin's all right, there
Speaker 1: you go, nice rap sheet rumors round up, all right,
Speaker 1: it just happens, alright, moving on, here we go, Greg,
Speaker 1: You're ready forgiveness, baby? And I know me the Don
Speaker 1: Henley banger. We need a title for this this segment.
Speaker 1: I no, no, it doesn't have to be could workshop
Speaker 1: It's right on a piece of paper. Once it's on
Speaker 1: the paper, though, it's if we were still allowed to
Speaker 1: play music on this podcast, we could call you are
Speaker 1: forgiven from the rushmore So, it would have been nice.
Speaker 1: Would have been nice. Thank you, Shadowy league figures. I
Speaker 1: was I was reading Heart. I was like reading a book,
Speaker 1: you know, not to bring bring it down a little bit,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's about sort of end of life.
Speaker 1: Was written by someone who works in a hospice care,
Speaker 1: you know, and and there it's a good one. And
Speaker 1: and they said you know, the most important thing a
Speaker 1: lot of times when you're when you're on your deathbed
Speaker 1: is is forgiveness. You know that you want you want
Speaker 1: to forgive what you know, your children for things you've done,
Speaker 1: or you want their forgiveness, or you want forgiveness of
Speaker 1: your parents or vice versa. It's all. It's all about forgiveness.
Speaker 1: And I thought, let's get ahead of let's get ahead
Speaker 1: of the game. Let's not wait till we were on
Speaker 1: our deathbed, and let's let some forgiveness out to the
Speaker 1: football communities. That's because you think that you're forgiving someone else,
Speaker 1: but you're really forgiving your That's that was a lot
Speaker 1: about that. And if you would have listened to the
Speaker 1: or paid tention to the lyrics of forgiveness by Don Henley,
Speaker 1: I would argo. He told us about this in nineteen nineties, right,
Speaker 1: He's like, here comes a book from a hospice forty
Speaker 1: years from now. I'm going to drop it to you
Speaker 1: right now. In nine By the way, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: Don Henley came up with the concept of forgiveness either.
Speaker 1: But if we were going to continue to you know, religion,
Speaker 1: going back for if you followed, if you're a fan
Speaker 1: of rock history, and you you know anything about Don Henley,
Speaker 1: maybe not, probably the biggest forgiveness guy out there in
Speaker 1: the game right now. So yeah, listen to listen to
Speaker 1: what's what's the phrase? Listen to him? Don't follow us
Speaker 1: that right? All right? Here we go forgiveness comma, and
Speaker 1: I don't mean the Don Henley banger. Everyone, let's go
Speaker 1: around the room. Uh? And and what do you who
Speaker 1: do you forgive? Mark Seesler. Well, when I when Greg,
Speaker 1: you texted this early, and I thought, you know, I
Speaker 1: don't really like I would need to be offended by
Speaker 1: something that happened in the NFL. And for me, my
Speaker 1: honest emotional reaction to nine D nine point nine of
Speaker 1: NFL transactions or actions are just like I'm over it
Speaker 1: by sundown for the most part. But there is one
Speaker 1: no no and I and I didn't respond for a while,
Speaker 1: but then I thought, yes, you know what, that's not true.
Speaker 1: There is one that if you had not come up
Speaker 1: with this, I probably would have let it sit there
Speaker 1: for another ten twenty thirty years, save it from your deathbed. Thought,
Speaker 1: I do not want to hang onto this anymore, because
Speaker 1: I honestly have gotten into fights with people over this.
Speaker 1: I remember getting into fight with a with a close
Speaker 1: family member long time ago who was a friend of
Speaker 1: a team related to all of this, the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: I need to forgive Art Model. A lot of Browns fans,
Speaker 1: a lot of Browns fans will not agree, and I
Speaker 1: they have to go through their own journey with that.
Speaker 1: I totally get it. But I was thinking about one
Speaker 1: aspect of Art Meldell that I think Browns fans would
Speaker 1: just say, most of them say who cares? But when
Speaker 1: I first fell in love with that team and they
Speaker 1: lost the drive and lost the fumble, and they lost
Speaker 1: to the Broncos two years later in a third AFC
Speaker 1: Championship with no name because it was just a wipeout,
Speaker 1: Art Model up in the owner's box, slumped over, depressed,
Speaker 1: his heart bled for the Browns, and that part of
Speaker 1: the that's the one part of that man that I
Speaker 1: can still remember fondly. And not to say too much
Speaker 1: more about it, but I have clung onto this and
Speaker 1: it's made me annoyed angry with Cleveland's fate ever since,
Speaker 1: especially to watch Art Modele do what he did and
Speaker 1: go win a Super Bowl somewhere else. No Browns fan
Speaker 1: needs to be happy about anything that happened to him
Speaker 1: after Cleveland. But to your point, it's affected me more
Speaker 1: than it's affected anyone else. I'm a little tired of it.
Speaker 1: How many more years do I need to be How
Speaker 1: many more times do I need to cling to some
Speaker 1: football narrative that I had no control over that just
Speaker 1: simply didn't go my way? It's I'm over it. So
Speaker 1: I forgive Art Model, I forgave the whole Model family.
Speaker 1: I want to turn a fresh page and move on. Wow,
Speaker 1: question does this thing Extand to forgiving the city of Baltimore?
Speaker 1: My problem with Baltimore, it's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: different cases. They had it done to them and did
Speaker 1: it to someone else. I don't think that's a good
Speaker 1: lesson for anyone but but nine. But almost everyone involved
Speaker 1: in that had nothing to do with the first part
Speaker 1: of it, So I don't I Actually, I'm a Browns fan.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna like the Ravens anymore than Dan likes
Speaker 1: the Bills of the Patriots. But enough with confronting Ravens
Speaker 1: fans at pubs, which I've done multiple times. Just what
Speaker 1: are your action steps that is to release the anchor
Speaker 1: and let it get Save Save the Baltimore forgiveness for
Speaker 1: like season five. If this was a TV show, Mark
Speaker 1: just hit us with a banger of a pilot. It's
Speaker 1: gonna get the show picked up. Everyone's gonna say, wow,
Speaker 1: this is something else that's a later beat. And then
Speaker 1: now that's a big one, very good. Nice forgiveness. I
Speaker 1: can't top that. I'm not even sure what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: forgive you. I had like three or four. Yeah, mine,
Speaker 1: mine feels like a mole hill cane is very small.
Speaker 1: I dumped the Tennessee Titans and really didn't care much
Speaker 1: for Marcus Mariota the rest of the season because the
Speaker 1: Titans did something really stupid. They signed a backup quarterback
Speaker 1: who for three years has not been able to throw
Speaker 1: a football. And every time Matt Castle plays, the field
Speaker 1: shrinks to a ten by ten pit at the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage because Rashad Jones is safety for the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: goes a hundred miles an hour at the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage every single drop back from Matt Castle, knowing that
Speaker 1: the guy can't throw anymore. Everyone in the league knows
Speaker 1: the guy can't throw it away. Sound like did you
Speaker 1: forgive Matt Castle? Like I'm not, who are your friend?
Speaker 1: Segment about forgive? This turned into a hit piece on
Speaker 1: Matt Castle, the title, well, I get it because he
Speaker 1: hasn't taken enough. This is part of the process of
Speaker 1: this show. This is part of the process. This is
Speaker 1: cathartic for me. You know, this is why I had
Speaker 1: good reasons for dumping that. But this is a new
Speaker 1: regime now with Vrabel coming in new offensive coordinator. If
Speaker 1: they cut ties with Matt Castle, I will forgive the Titans.
Speaker 1: Well if if Matt that I like it. But if Matt,
Speaker 1: if Matt is out there listening right now, if I
Speaker 1: if if, if I'm Matt Castle, and I would be thinking,
Speaker 1: what do I gotta do West to get your forgiveness.
Speaker 1: I was a seventh round pick who didn't even get
Speaker 1: to play in college. I had a great career. I
Speaker 1: love the game. I've tried to play it as as
Speaker 1: long as I can. Back off me. It's sort of
Speaker 1: like how Mark felt about Matt Flynn for for a
Speaker 1: couple of years. He's out there collective millions of dollars
Speaker 1: when it's clear he can't throw. Highly annoyed and really
Speaker 1: the blame is not on him. It's on that I
Speaker 1: should hope not. I mean, gentlemen, let's not counting other
Speaker 1: people's money. Though. It's not their fault, that their agents.
Speaker 1: That's that's what I'm saying. It's not his fault, it's
Speaker 1: the Titans fault. If the Titans want to offer me
Speaker 1: three millions million dollars a year to throw at ten
Speaker 1: yards beyond line of scrimmage, I can do that. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's made it now. I'm counting it up here. Fourteen
Speaker 1: seasons and six different teams for a guy who didn't
Speaker 1: throw the ball in college. Well, it's it's only three
Speaker 1: of those years that he's been unable to throw a football. Forgiveness.
Speaker 1: That is the sound of forgiveness right there. Um moving,
Speaker 1: moving on, Mike mccagnet, I forgive you for Christian Hackenburg. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's good. I the Hackenburg thing was not butt fumble bad,
Speaker 1: but it was the most embarrassing thing to happen to
Speaker 1: the Jets since the butt fumble, and it continues to
Speaker 1: be a source of punch lines. And with good reason.
Speaker 1: You drafted a guy in the second round based on
Speaker 1: the fact that he looks like a quarterback in like
Speaker 1: a TV movie, which in retrospect, maybe that was not
Speaker 1: the way to go. He'll probably never play a snap, uh,
Speaker 1: certainly for the Jets and probably, let's face it, maybe
Speaker 1: ever in the NFL. So if you want to talk
Speaker 1: about burning draft capital a team the Jets that have
Speaker 1: historically been terrible drafting in the second round, so to
Speaker 1: find to find someone that stands head and shoulders above
Speaker 1: anyone else in terms of terrible use of a premium
Speaker 1: draft pick, Christian Hackenburg embarrassing, terrible, set the franchise back.
Speaker 1: But now I forgive you, Mike mccagnuet, But there's a cave.
Speaker 1: There's a caveat here. There's a caveat We're still going
Speaker 1: to school, and yeah, there's a caveat here. Because it's
Speaker 1: not a free pass. I'm willing to move forward. But
Speaker 1: you are. You are sitting right now, Mr Big Mac,
Speaker 1: on a war chest that after you get rid of
Speaker 1: Moe Wilkerson and a couple other floats them flotsam jetsam, um,
Speaker 1: you will have over a hundred million dollars to spend.
Speaker 1: And you have Kirk Cousins, who's on the right side
Speaker 1: of the Dalton scale. And you have the sixth overall
Speaker 1: pick with the opportunity possibly move up if you really
Speaker 1: want to just get me a quarterback. Easier said than done.
Speaker 1: But if you come out of this with a with
Speaker 1: a real option that the fan base can get excited about,
Speaker 1: I can move past the pact the fact that you
Speaker 1: made one of the most disastrous draft picks in the
Speaker 1: last ten years. And I will say one thing in
Speaker 1: his defense picking it in the second round was it
Speaker 1: was outrageous. But if the outside of Dak Prescott, which
Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh you know, Team X didn't draft Dak Pescott,
Speaker 1: will we get it? But you look at the other
Speaker 1: like eight quarterbacks taken after Christian Hackenburg, it is a
Speaker 1: bunch of junk. Outside of maybe Jacoby Brissette, it is
Speaker 1: a bunch of junk. So he he had to pick someone.
Speaker 1: But you're right, the Hackenburg narrative has been disastrous because
Speaker 1: he hasn't even seen the field. I think we're I
Speaker 1: think we're still learning about forgiveness because you know, when
Speaker 1: you're on your deathbed, I don't know if you can
Speaker 1: give caveats with your forgiveness. Well you run out of time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they can't be with basically, I mean I
Speaker 1: should know in about a month. Like even if I
Speaker 1: don't know if this, if they get a rookie quarterback,
Speaker 1: at least get one of these hot shots and let's
Speaker 1: let's fly and see if it works out. But no
Speaker 1: more reaching and standing by your your gut instinct and
Speaker 1: all that. Let's go figured out. You have so many choices, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're all They're all mole hills compared to these, But
Speaker 1: I'll do it. I'll do the one that feels most
Speaker 1: personally true, which is that I forgive Drew Bledsoe. And
Speaker 1: this is you know, this is something that probably knowing
Speaker 1: that other than myself would even know. But I've probably
Speaker 1: gone out of my way over the last fifteen years
Speaker 1: whenever the subject came up to point out some of
Speaker 1: Drew Bledsoe's uh lesser less admirable character traits during the
Speaker 1: two thousand and one season that people seem to forget about,
Speaker 1: you know, when the Rise of Tom Brady happened. I've
Speaker 1: always liked to kind of point that out, like, Okay, hey,
Speaker 1: like this this guy that that has been you know,
Speaker 1: kind of somewhat beloved, I guess would have new England area,
Speaker 1: like pointing out something past the fact. Now I think
Speaker 1: we're older, we've seen different things. Winery has his winery.
Speaker 1: But also maybe I'm maybe I'm older and understand the
Speaker 1: dynamics a little better. Things happen in in people's careers.
Speaker 1: You know, people are coming up to possibly replace you.
Speaker 1: It's a very natural human reaction, maybe to be territorial.
Speaker 1: You're competitive, like that's one of the things that maybe
Speaker 1: made you a great athlete in the first place. And
Speaker 1: now I think it's kind of flipped where it's happened
Speaker 1: to Tom Brady on some level. Uh. And I certainly
Speaker 1: don't hold anything against Tom Brady for being very competitive
Speaker 1: and maybe doing some things to the guy below him.
Speaker 1: And so I've always held that in my in my
Speaker 1: heart that like at this, Drew Bledsoe, he's not He's
Speaker 1: not the great guy everyone says. And then that that
Speaker 1: was maybe a fault of my own, not of Drew Bledsoe.
Speaker 1: So I forgive you the most tender I've ever heard.
Speaker 1: That was pretty that was pretty great. Okay, then I
Speaker 1: guess again, and I'll quote the great poet Don Henley.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get down to the heart of
Speaker 1: the matter. But my will gets weak and my thoughts
Speaker 1: seemed to score at her. But I think it's about forgiveness.
Speaker 1: Forgiveness even if, even if you don't love me anybody else,
Speaker 1: have one nothing where it needs to be said. I
Speaker 1: think I'll save him for the next time. We're bringing
Speaker 1: this one back in a couple of months, So give
Speaker 1: it for who don't we forgive? Podcast? Can? I? Can?
Speaker 1: I just throw out one more? It's important. I forgive you,
Speaker 1: Sean McDonough. Mm hmm. You took unnecessary criticism when you
Speaker 1: replace my boy, my sweet prince Mike Terrico was to
Speaker 1: play by play guy on Monday Night Football, and in retrospect,
Speaker 1: that was very unfair. McDonald didn't do anything wrong other
Speaker 1: than not be Mike Tarrico, and not many people are.
Speaker 1: Mike Terrico was hitting out and Sean was an easy target.
Speaker 1: But now that Jake John Gruden's gone fresh fresh late,
Speaker 1: I hope Sean McDonald is part of the new team.
Speaker 1: And um, I like, I like to look at this
Speaker 1: as a perfect place, a fresh start for both of us.
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry, um, Sean McDonough. And while we're on
Speaker 1: the topic, who do you guys want to replace John Grooted.
Speaker 1: I would. I would swing for the fences on Bruce Arians.
Speaker 1: I like that a lot. I like that it's not
Speaker 1: another former quarterback that they're rolling out hoping to get
Speaker 1: the next Tony Romo. Arians. We we know that he's
Speaker 1: in some cases painfully honest. I think he would. He
Speaker 1: has no he's not trying to get back into coaching,
Speaker 1: so he is no. He doesn't try to have to,
Speaker 1: you know, soft sell everything and tell us how great
Speaker 1: everyone is for his next big contract four years from now.
Speaker 1: He just could be honest. I like it. I like
Speaker 1: that arians choice just to throw a different name out there,
Speaker 1: just to make this room go crazy. How about j
Speaker 1: Coutlor just to make the whole world a little while
Speaker 1: there on Monday night football. I like it. But we
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't. I don't know, but I'd like to.
Speaker 1: I want him to go. He's gonna see gonna go
Speaker 1: back to announcing. Have they talked. I hope he said
Speaker 1: said he would go. I mean think unless it was
Speaker 1: always a ruse or he's just waiting to get paid.
Speaker 1: But he went through an interview process and now he
Speaker 1: was hired. He was like announced he did some interviews
Speaker 1: about it. The one thing I don't think we have
Speaker 1: to worry about because he he bombed what essentially served
Speaker 1: as an audition on the first Monday night last year.
Speaker 1: I don't think we're gonna get rexy now. I think
Speaker 1: if REXI would have killed it and people were talking
Speaker 1: positively about Rex Ryan's doing what was the Niners game
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, he would be a real option
Speaker 1: for them. But I don't think it's gonna happen. I agree,
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Speaker 1: what did we learn? It's breaking news. A long time
Speaker 1: Jets linebacker David Harris announces his retired I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: the listeners once again, your hopes are up. You thought
Speaker 1: of major A major announced it was coming. If you
Speaker 1: don't think I'm just gonna create some sort of item
Speaker 1: of news in every show for the rest of the
Speaker 1: off season, you're sorely mistake. And so I'm glad this
Speaker 1: actually happened. And if David Harris a great eleven year
Speaker 1: veteran retiring doesn't merit mentioned. Hey, I love the hat Man.
Speaker 1: Did you know he was known as the hit man
Speaker 1: my Jets? I didn't know. Very nice, Yeah, a really
Speaker 1: nice career was durable as hell, was the backbone of
Speaker 1: their defense for a decade on some very good Jets
Speaker 1: defenses and the Rex Ryan era. He got old as
Speaker 1: happens in football and U he went to the Patriots
Speaker 1: to chase a ring, did not ever find a role,
Speaker 1: and now now he's done. David Harris was a nice
Speaker 1: player though. All right, let's now move to the mail bag. Oh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: been a while since we got the bag. Thank you
Speaker 1: the listeners that sent in. As always, there was no
Speaker 1: shortage of topics, uh and questions um hashtag a t
Speaker 1: N mail bag. So let's go through some of them.
Speaker 1: Here's a good West. I'll start with you on this one.
Speaker 1: This one from John Newby at Real Nuby. Am I
Speaker 1: crazy for hoping that Vikings avoid Kirk Cousins and just
Speaker 1: signed Teddy b and a solid backup injuries aside, don't
Speaker 1: they have similar upsides? I like the question, Well, I
Speaker 1: think I know where West is going on this. But
Speaker 1: that's one thing that seems to be not being discussed
Speaker 1: a lot that they have these options in house, the Vikings,
Speaker 1: and yet everyone's saying, go get Kirk Cousins when you
Speaker 1: might have it right under your nose. Yes, he's crazy. Sorry, John,
Speaker 1: I don't think Teddy Bridgewater is upside is even what
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins has done numbers wise for the last three years,
Speaker 1: when he's been a top five NFL quarterback, and Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins is alone as the only quarterback who consistently gets
Speaker 1: nailed for being a system guy, I don't ever hear
Speaker 1: that anybody with numbers like Kirk Cousins is a system quarterback.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever heard of any quarterback
Speaker 1: who has the numbers of him who has been called
Speaker 1: a system quarterback to the center the extent he has
Speaker 1: been maybe Alex Smith. And Alex Smith does not just
Speaker 1: number he's even comparable this year he did over over
Speaker 1: a forty eight game sample size to be putting up
Speaker 1: over four thousand yards every year around thirty touchdowns and
Speaker 1: rate numbers and yards per attempt adjusted yards per attempt
Speaker 1: passer rating like Kirk Cousins and be you know, just
Speaker 1: kind of way you know, off handedly labeled a system quarterback.
Speaker 1: I don't see Teddy Bridgewater ever playing at that high
Speaker 1: of a level. What about Sam Bradford then? What I
Speaker 1: mean they're just or bringing back case kata? Like, why
Speaker 1: why should the Vikings definitely blow up the position when
Speaker 1: they might have the option? Well, they might not have
Speaker 1: a choice if they can't sign and Cousins, and I
Speaker 1: think they have good options to bring back then, but
Speaker 1: I think they they understandably could believe that Cousins is
Speaker 1: a far safer bet than any of those three, and
Speaker 1: that they have a Super Bowl window to win right
Speaker 1: now while that defense is altogether all right, Next one
Speaker 1: comes from you guys ready, Oh we are George Harold
Speaker 1: at George Underscore Harold. What is Justin Tucker's trade value? Well,
Speaker 1: how about this? How bright is the sun seven number
Speaker 1: one picks over the course of seven years? Why would
Speaker 1: they trade him? That's a great question. Why would you
Speaker 1: trade the best player in the NFL? I have no idea,
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's my answer. I have no idea. There's
Speaker 1: no way to compute such a thing. Moving on, Derek
Speaker 1: at Derek x v X picking a division from each conference,
Speaker 1: which one do you believe will be the strongest and
Speaker 1: could potentially produce three playoff teams. I like this one.
Speaker 1: Nice job, Derek, three playoff teams. I hate to be
Speaker 1: a sour puss, but wouldn't this be a better question
Speaker 1: to ask after free agency in the draft? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a fair question. That's where where we are today. I
Speaker 1: finally feel like the a f C South could do that.
Speaker 1: You've got Deshaun Watson with the Texans. You've got the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: who are super Bowl level team, and you've got the
Speaker 1: Titans that just made the playoffs and won a playoff game.
Speaker 1: Yeah I would I would stick with the NFC South
Speaker 1: who did it last year and they're gonna happen. But
Speaker 1: it's one from each comp. Yeah, for the for the NFC,
Speaker 1: just because of the quarterbacks are so stable and strong
Speaker 1: in the NFC South that you like a chance in
Speaker 1: the a f C. I don't like any of those choices,
Speaker 1: but if I had to choose one, I think I
Speaker 1: would go back to the North and and think maybe
Speaker 1: the Ravens and Bengals get back get back in. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't feel good about any of those.
Speaker 1: I think the exercise shows you the NFC right now
Speaker 1: from where we stand, is A has a much heavier
Speaker 1: crop of top flight teams for sure. Next stuff, Jason
Speaker 1: Stein at Jason A. Stein asks why does college not
Speaker 1: just move her production meeting by ten minutes? I've always
Speaker 1: had the same it's question. It's it does not involve
Speaker 1: just her, but it is. We're talking about ten minutes
Speaker 1: of human life. Is she gonna get fired off that
Speaker 1: power ranking show? I mean, I feel like she has
Speaker 1: some sway at this point. She's the host. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: is something strange that I don't think any NFL network
Speaker 1: meetings ever start at eleven forty, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like it always is right on the half hour, and
Speaker 1: there are probably ten other people in that room, maybe more.
Speaker 1: I have you attended one meeting ever in this building
Speaker 1: that would have suffered by being ten minutes shorter, or
Speaker 1: they would have suffered by not happening at all. A
Speaker 1: or B. Next up Alex at Mr holbear Mark, I'll
Speaker 1: I'll throw this one to you. What's more likely? A little?
Speaker 1: What's more likely? What more? I'm gonna modify? Alex is
Speaker 1: just a little bit. Uh. The Browns take a QB
Speaker 1: at one or sign one of the Vikings qbs. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna make it a little bit more broad. The Browns
Speaker 1: take a QB at one or they don't. I I
Speaker 1: think that they It is more likely that they take
Speaker 1: a QB at one. That's there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: and I'm hearing this on twitever day. Why would you
Speaker 1: not take sequon Barkley. It's like, oh, the Browns need
Speaker 1: to do this, if they know what they're doing, It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: But then all these same people a month later, when
Speaker 1: the quarterback they didn't take it one is blowing up
Speaker 1: with one of the other three teams are turning into
Speaker 1: uh a star with the Giants. How could Cleveland have
Speaker 1: possibly been so dim to for a once again pass
Speaker 1: on the court. If you don't do it at one,
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay the price from a pr angle if
Speaker 1: you missed the guy. Yeah, I would put my I
Speaker 1: would put my kids non existent college fund on the
Speaker 1: Browns taking a quarterback at one. I would be really
Speaker 1: shocked if they did the first thing John Dorsey did
Speaker 1: when he got in the building. Lets send us scouts
Speaker 1: out to start study in the quarterback. Why wouldn't you
Speaker 1: take a quarterback? Brownies? Get your guy. Next up this
Speaker 1: one from Callum Leslie at Callum Leslie ninety two. What
Speaker 1: are the best and worst beers You've ever drunk? Guy?
Speaker 1: Wasn't this guy on the Broncos wide Receiver depth chart? Well?
Speaker 1: As as I stated on Mark's Bumper's podcast, e'instock from
Speaker 1: Iceland is probably the White Ale is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite beers. Shinerbach. That's up there? Um? Are you referring
Speaker 1: to the heat Light podcast? No, this was a previous
Speaker 1: uh ten to twelve minute bumpers. Yes, go ahead, Sorry,
Speaker 1: Uh those would be the two top beers. What that
Speaker 1: Blue Moon? Is that a beer? It's like a Belgian
Speaker 1: beer that they always want to put fruit in, Like
Speaker 1: they'll put like an orange peel or something on the
Speaker 1: side of from that's the worst. That is amazing that
Speaker 1: you said that, West, because I haven't written right here
Speaker 1: blue Moon the worst beer? Don't add us? Oh that
Speaker 1: shocked top is terrible too. I I I for years
Speaker 1: because I know a lot of people that love Blue Moon,
Speaker 1: And to me, I've always said that to me, it
Speaker 1: tastes like salami juice. It tastes like to me, like
Speaker 1: decay carrots. Well, yeah, and here's the one thing I'm
Speaker 1: proud of and descriptive again, Blue Moon. Do not throw
Speaker 1: a lawsuit at me. I'm allowed to have an opinion.
Speaker 1: What I've shared, that opinion that it tastes like salami juice.
Speaker 1: I have turned people off the product forever because they
Speaker 1: at once say oh my god, you once they link
Speaker 1: and then they get off it too. So now now
Speaker 1: it's just gone. Why what I'm hearing a little bit
Speaker 1: when I could not agree with more is I don't
Speaker 1: want any beer where they're putting a lemon or orange
Speaker 1: slice on top of it. I don't do that. Um,
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, this is a lot a
Speaker 1: lot from hanging out with Dan that beer is not
Speaker 1: my first choice when I go out to begin with anymore.
Speaker 1: But I like um currently Alagash, it's uh. I like
Speaker 1: Race or five once in a while. UM, I love
Speaker 1: fat Tire. But beyond that, I don't get that. I
Speaker 1: don't get that adventurous. There is one type of beer
Speaker 1: that I I'm off of, but I spent a season
Speaker 1: on which was a they had like the grapefruit, like
Speaker 1: the like the very nice. It's not too strong, it's
Speaker 1: a nice little not grapefruit and grape fruit flavored. You're
Speaker 1: talking about the one with the fish on it. Well,
Speaker 1: there's more there. I don't know, because there's like some
Speaker 1: balla ballast head that there were like seven or eight
Speaker 1: with this too. Yes, but I'm gonna go more personal experience.
Speaker 1: I think I've had the most fun drinking Abita amber
Speaker 1: in my life. Oh, I love a bog And I
Speaker 1: think I had the least fun drinking Beck's beer when
Speaker 1: I was about fourteen or fifteen years old. That was
Speaker 1: terrible warm Beck's beer. In the basement. Yeah, we constantly
Speaker 1: had rolling Rock, which which when you would it was
Speaker 1: the only beer that we somehow, and you would crack
Speaker 1: it open and it's no I had a wonderful times
Speaker 1: throwing rock back in the days. But you'd open it
Speaker 1: and it it smelled like when you'd open a bag
Speaker 1: of potato chips. That first gustave air that is unforgiving
Speaker 1: because it's three one bottle which lets the sunshine in
Speaker 1: and it skunks it out. That's what they say. I've
Speaker 1: heard that. Uh. And if you ever spot the old
Speaker 1: zeuser like an airport bar and don't have the option
Speaker 1: to get him a Tito's, uh, get me a Mexican lagger,
Speaker 1: and I will take a line in my Corona or
Speaker 1: my Pacific that's different. In general, I don't like the
Speaker 1: big giant orange slice on top of a glass of beer. Please,
Speaker 1: nobody went I p a here. Nicely done, good job,
Speaker 1: good job, nice talk. Alan rees at Archivists underscore Ale.
Speaker 1: What do you think of Damashek having a speaking part
Speaker 1: in Scorpion? Have you guys heard about this? Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it's a true story. Dave has some Hollywood connections, as
Speaker 1: you know. He's in like a celebrity fantasy football league
Speaker 1: with John Ham for starters, uh, Dick Whitman himself. Uh.
Speaker 1: But he also has a buddy that's connected to Scorpions somehow,
Speaker 1: and it led to Check having a cameo, and uh,
Speaker 1: what can I say? I'm torn about it, and I'm
Speaker 1: happy for Shack. I hope it went well he shot
Speaker 1: it last week. I'm torn because the shadowy League figures
Speaker 1: took Scorpion away from our show. Recurring bit that I
Speaker 1: quite enjoyed was watching and listening to horrible Scorpion ads
Speaker 1: on Sundays during the NFL season. So I feel like
Speaker 1: I've pushed myself away from the program and having Dave
Speaker 1: enter the fray there. It's a little bit of sweet. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's complex situation. I can't wait to watch it. I
Speaker 1: think he should be and he would be great on
Speaker 1: more strange television shows. That's true. John at John likes turtles.
Speaker 1: If if Andrew Luck was to come back and see
Speaker 1: I didn't help out Squarespace, but I will help out
Speaker 1: John with his typo here. If Andrew Luck was to
Speaker 1: come back and be healthy, oh, maybe maybe the best
Speaker 1: way would be to not mention that he had a
Speaker 1: type of at all. If Andrew wait, maybe he didn't
Speaker 1: have a type of Maybe it's just poorly working. You
Speaker 1: should add John to your forgiveness. If Andrew Luck was
Speaker 1: to come back and healthy anyway, what do the group
Speaker 1: honestly believe the ceiling is for the cults? If lux healthy,
Speaker 1: what what is the what? What is indie ceiling? But no,
Speaker 1: I don't. They're one of the teams that I think
Speaker 1: will make about as many moves as any team because
Speaker 1: they need to, especially on defense. So it's a little
Speaker 1: hard to say right now, but the ceiling is winning
Speaker 1: the division and being a contender, being in the mixing.
Speaker 1: I think the ceiling is every healthy Andrew lux season
Speaker 1: where if it's a week ANFC playoff field, they can
Speaker 1: win a game in the playoffs, but they aren't super
Speaker 1: Bowl count not yet. Tendor eleven wins the ceiling. If
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard can do his job, maybe in a year
Speaker 1: or two. Uh. This one from bites Choco. Greg. Do
Speaker 1: you think called Kaepert equal next season? I don't. I
Speaker 1: was on the camp where I really expected him to
Speaker 1: get a job throughout all of last off season up
Speaker 1: into the bitter end, and he was. It sounded like
Speaker 1: he was pretty close a couple of times. At this point.
Speaker 1: I'd be pleasantly surprised if he got a job. I
Speaker 1: hope he does. I hope that he should. It's crazy
Speaker 1: that he wouldn't be in the league, at least on
Speaker 1: some level. I got a bit of a Sessler that
Speaker 1: he's gonna get signed this year, and it's gonna be
Speaker 1: obviously a huge story. It will have implications that go
Speaker 1: well beyond the NFL and and all that. It will
Speaker 1: be one of the big stories heading into training camp.
Speaker 1: Just as Sessler, you just convinced, I'm backing off. I mean,
Speaker 1: he has does he have an active lawsuit against the
Speaker 1: league going right now. The unusual situation. I wonder, I
Speaker 1: just wonder what team would do that. It's gonna take
Speaker 1: an owner and in a coach I guess to kind
Speaker 1: of stick their neck. Uh, do a couple more here,
Speaker 1: Graham Hackney, are the forty Niners nailed on? It sounds
Speaker 1: like a British term. It's from you, are the forty
Speaker 1: Niners nailed on as the sexy offseason team and the
Speaker 1: way the Bucks were last year? If not, which team
Speaker 1: do you think it will be? I think that's a
Speaker 1: I think that's I think he nailed it, Graham. I
Speaker 1: think the Niners are that team that everyone's gonna be
Speaker 1: in love with and are gonna pick to either win
Speaker 1: the NFC West or or be a wild card team.
Speaker 1: Does anybody else want to throw another team out there? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with the Chargers, you know. Speaking of forgiveness,
Speaker 1: I forgive them for making all my positive predictions over
Speaker 1: the last two or three years look bad. They're finally
Speaker 1: going to get it done. I mean that's They're not
Speaker 1: going to be the track. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: top what the Niners did over with Jimmy g Over
Speaker 1: the last five games at the season. You set the
Speaker 1: table perfectly to be a raging hype piece the entire
Speaker 1: off season. Except I don't think it's hype. I think
Speaker 1: that that they've kind of got the right GM, the
Speaker 1: right coach, and Shanahan is shown that he can quickly
Speaker 1: build an offense. I think they are that dangerous. I
Speaker 1: think they are that team. I um. I mentioned Garoppolo
Speaker 1: and the piece I wrote today and it having a
Speaker 1: little distance, even a couple of weeks, and I know
Speaker 1: we all love Garoppolo. It is pretty crazy that as
Speaker 1: of right now, he is the highest paid player in
Speaker 1: NFL history. I know, despite I get it. I get it.
Speaker 1: He looked great in those games with seven starts, the
Speaker 1: highest paid player ever um in a per season annual average.
Speaker 1: The fortnight has went all in on this dude, and
Speaker 1: we'll see if it pays off. Makes much more sensor
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford to be the highest paid player in history.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that, like the highest paid
Speaker 1: player in history is often a guy who's it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a Kirk Cousins, which doesn't make a lot of
Speaker 1: sense to me. I know, he's top five numbers. I
Speaker 1: don't necessarily consider the quarterback track record as franchise level type.
Speaker 1: Guys was saying, but highest paid circumstance, and the Niners
Speaker 1: are basically saying, hey, if this doesn't work, get rid
Speaker 1: of us all in three years. But we believe enough.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Finally, from Thomas Daniellian, can you confirm
Speaker 1: whether or not you will be gracing London with your
Speaker 1: presence during the International series? Parenthetical? Please say yes, clothes parenthetical.
Speaker 1: We can't confirm it yet now, but we hope. So.
Speaker 1: There's sort of a tractor being pulling us there though,
Speaker 1: because we are real tight with Sky Sports love them. Um.
Speaker 1: We have seen some changes within the infrastructure here at
Speaker 1: work that make it a more favorable option. We've got
Speaker 1: some people inside the building pushing for it, pulling for it.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go breaking news here, but I
Speaker 1: had a direct one on one conversation with a shadowy
Speaker 1: league figure who assured me that the plan is for
Speaker 1: us to go to London. We've heard the promises before.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing I'll say. We are hearing all
Speaker 1: positive things inside the building, so we can't confirm it,
Speaker 1: but it looks great. It's more of like a rap
Speaker 1: sheet level report that this is expected to happen. Interesting
Speaker 1: there you, I'm interesting. More rapt shade from Mark gets
Speaker 1: the bottom in Indianapolis. We will be back before we
Speaker 1: had We're heading to Indianapolis on Tuesday. Monday, will be
Speaker 1: here in Culver City, UH doing a show, a show
Speaker 1: in which we will unveil the free agency one oh
Speaker 1: one list by the scientists that they the blood, sweat
Speaker 1: and tears, things that cannot be taken back, but all
Speaker 1: worth it because they'll have the definitive free agency list
Speaker 1: and we will break the whole thing down. That will
Speaker 1: be Monday's episode and then we're off to Indianapolis. So
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