Speaker 1: Hey, this is Bridget and Emily and you're listening the
Speaker 1: stuff mom ever told you. Now today, if I sound
Speaker 1: a little emotional, it's because I am. Those of you
Speaker 1: who know me in real life know that I am
Speaker 1: an emotional mess most of the time. If I'm not
Speaker 1: laughing uncontrollably, I'm pretty much crying no one between. So
Speaker 1: today we'll probably be a bit of a weird episode.
Speaker 1: I just want to warn you now this is the
Speaker 1: final episode with our good friend Emily. I feel like
Speaker 1: the Emily Bridget chemistry is one of my favorite things
Speaker 1: period full stuff, and so what's really sad to me
Speaker 1: is our chemistry, which will continue and you couldn't shake
Speaker 1: me off as a pal if you wanted to. Um,
Speaker 1: But now there won't be a microphone as we grab
Speaker 1: apprill Sprits is at red Derby together, which we should
Speaker 1: do after this episode, I should do. It's funny to
Speaker 1: think though, that like, oh man, we're going to be
Speaker 1: getting drinks at a bar and thinking like would have
Speaker 1: been such a great podcast. That will happen. That will happen.
Speaker 1: So yeah, as we wrap this podcast partnership up officially,
Speaker 1: but not you know, it will live on in some iteration.
Speaker 1: I really can't help but look back on some of
Speaker 1: the fun times we shared. I mean, I remember when
Speaker 1: we first met. This was way back when before podcasts
Speaker 1: were ever even really a thing. We were both working
Speaker 1: in politics and sort of in each other's orbits. Like
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call us like close pals, but like I
Speaker 1: would see you. You were working out at Nay for
Speaker 1: a while, we were working out of the same office, um,
Speaker 1: and I would see you and be like, who's that
Speaker 1: cool tall girl with a cool hair? Likewise, you were
Speaker 1: intimidating to me. You were intimidating to me. I think
Speaker 1: because we're both tall. That's honestly what I think. It's
Speaker 1: a part of it. I think it's a part of it.
Speaker 1: So you're a badass and every loved you. And I
Speaker 1: might have seemed pretty fierce on the outside, but I
Speaker 1: was a fledgling entrepreneur who had just quit my steady
Speaker 1: job my you know, I just walked away from my
Speaker 1: first big girl paycheck of my life. And I was
Speaker 1: literally crashing at your office because I had nowhere else
Speaker 1: to work out of and was like a lonely, scared
Speaker 1: entrepreneur who was figuring out how to start this thing
Speaker 1: called bossed up. Everyone loved you. Everyone was happy to
Speaker 1: have you there. You brought up. You brought a light
Speaker 1: and an energy to the office, even though you didn't there.
Speaker 1: I was just there about for like the scraps of
Speaker 1: food that came with your pot luck lunches. I was like,
Speaker 1: do you mind if I just keep showing up on
Speaker 1: Wednesdays for like lunch, Yeah, lunch, those are the days,
Speaker 1: and they were always vegan. That was the thing we were.
Speaker 1: So to back up, you worked at a hippie dippy,
Speaker 1: lefty progressive organizing training organization that's no longer exists r
Speaker 1: I p n Y, But we had these in complete
Speaker 1: hippie dippie progressive fashion. Every Wednesday we had a vegan lunch,
Speaker 1: a vegan potluck lunch, and that's right up your alley.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wasn't even working there. I was just
Speaker 1: riff raff. I was like fast, right up entreneur riff
Speaker 1: raff I was. I was hippy, dippy riff raff. I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I was like the weird in retrospect. It's funny that
Speaker 1: I'm the capitalist on the show, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because I was broke and basically eating socialist. You were
Speaker 1: eating free socialist, vegan hippie dippy lunch. I was taking
Speaker 1: refuge in the socialist haven that was the new organizing institute.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. One of the things
Speaker 1: I love so much about our origin story is that,
Speaker 1: really it shows that you never know who you're gonna meet,
Speaker 1: who's gonna be in your orbit. Like in a million years,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have thought when we met, we're gonna be
Speaker 1: doing a podcast together. Right, Well, it's such a good
Speaker 1: career lesson in that way, right for people to treat
Speaker 1: people nicely. Honestly, the biggest lesson in crafting a kick
Speaker 1: ass career is being genuinely nice to people. If you
Speaker 1: treat people who you think, oh, just you know, bridgets,
Speaker 1: just somebody who works at this organization that I just
Speaker 1: basically loafing in to get free lunch and have a
Speaker 1: desk to work on on occasion. And if I didn't
Speaker 1: treat you with respect or stay in your orbit or
Speaker 1: vice versa, then we wouldn't be here today. And it's
Speaker 1: kind of cool to see your friends on the come up. Definitely,
Speaker 1: are you talking about me being I'm talking about you.
Speaker 1: Don't be Coy bridget Todd. Bridget Todd was busy going
Speaker 1: to make headlines at NBC was making things happen, talking
Speaker 1: on south By Southwest panels, and I watched your come
Speaker 1: up and it was awesome. I feel the same way
Speaker 1: about you. It's like you were this. I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: never forget you this. You have no recollection of this,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. But when I was one of the most
Speaker 1: stressful parts of my job was figuring out who was
Speaker 1: going to be in and who was going to be
Speaker 1: out of this boot camp. And this is something that
Speaker 1: you have done, and the way that I was doing
Speaker 1: it in classic messy, disorganized, don't really know what I'm
Speaker 1: doing bridget style. I had built this grid of photographs
Speaker 1: that I had had kind of hastily arranged on a
Speaker 1: table in the middle of the office, and it was
Speaker 1: clear that like, this was not a good system, clearly,
Speaker 1: and you walked by and you were like, you need
Speaker 1: a better system. And that was our that was one
Speaker 1: of our first interactions. And you were over and no, no no,
Speaker 1: you weren't very helpful. You were like, this system seems
Speaker 1: there's a lot of post it notes here, and one's
Speaker 1: on the floor, Like what's happening. I am like mildly
Speaker 1: horrified to hear that. Was it really illustrated one your
Speaker 1: willingness to see someone doing something and being like, let
Speaker 1: me show you a better way. And what I didn't
Speaker 1: know at the time was like this was going to
Speaker 1: be your you know, your your bread and butter boots.
Speaker 1: That was my model that I was basically basing my
Speaker 1: business model off of. So I had been a participant
Speaker 1: in an OLiS boot camp, which you were part of
Speaker 1: at that time, you were running at that time, which
Speaker 1: was for folks who wanted to break into the digital
Speaker 1: political space. And I had been on the receiving end
Speaker 1: of really excellent training, and you know, thank God for
Speaker 1: n o I because it really did help accelerate my
Speaker 1: career in digital communications and political advocacy. I wanted to
Speaker 1: create a boot camp program for all women who are
Speaker 1: navigating career transition period and my advisers, some of whom
Speaker 1: worked for n o I, some of whom were part
Speaker 1: of Enois Beginnings, helped me understand what n o I
Speaker 1: did so well in terms of curriculum development and how
Speaker 1: I could take those lessons and run with them to
Speaker 1: create really powerful programming for a different audience with different goals,
Speaker 1: and then you know, I folded and I had a crisis.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yes, exactly. N O I granted
Speaker 1: was a nonprofit, so the financing was totally different. I
Speaker 1: pursued a for profit route in part because I saw
Speaker 1: excellent nonprofits proved to be unsustainable financial and I didn't
Speaker 1: want that to happen um to whatever it was that
Speaker 1: I was building at the time. So funny, yeah, that
Speaker 1: I really feel like that early anecdote really underscore is
Speaker 1: something I felt this entire time, which is how we
Speaker 1: work together, which I feel like it's one of those
Speaker 1: things like um fire and ice, or like pall and
Speaker 1: oats right where it's like they're very different, but together
Speaker 1: they make a very compelling package. Where you know, I
Speaker 1: got this bold idea, but it's actually like post it
Speaker 1: notes all on the floor and you're like, let me
Speaker 1: show you a better way to implement this. What I'm
Speaker 1: sure is a great idea. You do have amazing, brilliant ideas,
Speaker 1: and I like to bring my you know, spreadsheet version
Speaker 1: of life to bear to make it happen. Honestly, Pisces virgo,
Speaker 1: I hate to go, but it's true. It's yelled at
Speaker 1: y'all by so many horoscope paters. Know I don't care either.
Speaker 1: I was like, we knew that let us have our fun, like,
Speaker 1: let us are allowed to enjoy enjoy anything, please come on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's something that I've always felt when working with you,
Speaker 1: is you know, kind of how we compliment each other
Speaker 1: and how are different energies really combined to create something
Speaker 1: really beautiful and creative collaborator of my dreams. Yeah, same.
Speaker 1: I mean, I never knew I could love Google Docs,
Speaker 1: but now I love Google Docs. You're lying, I it's
Speaker 1: love hate. I respect them. You could do whatever I don't.
Speaker 1: I respect them different. You can go buck wild. You
Speaker 1: should plan your episodes in the future on sticky notes
Speaker 1: because they never fall. I have a lot of sticky
Speaker 1: notes on my table right now, and I was baking
Speaker 1: something the other night and I almost put a casserole
Speaker 1: tray into the oven with a sticky not on the
Speaker 1: bottom of it, which probably would have burned my house down.
Speaker 1: So sticky notes are not as The good news is
Speaker 1: you don't have to get worried about ever getting an
Speaker 1: email from me again saying where's the Google Docs for?
Speaker 1: This is the thing in the past, oh too soon.
Speaker 1: So I hope they're sticking with us and there are
Speaker 1: having some emotional moments after this quick break, Let's talk
Speaker 1: through some of our favorite and most memorable moments together,
Speaker 1: shall we. Let's do it. We'll be right back and
Speaker 1: we're back just talking through the origin stories of B
Speaker 1: and E, how we came to be together. And honestly,
Speaker 1: we've had so many good memories from hosting the show
Speaker 1: together and I wanted to sort of just talk through them.
Speaker 1: They deserve to be lifted up in your in your departure.
Speaker 1: What are some of your favorite moments we've had. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I can't help but go back to the very beginning,
Speaker 1: because at the time we were so excited and so
Speaker 1: honored and fully terrified, right and I totally think rightfully,
Speaker 1: so we were stepping into impossible. The phil shoes of
Speaker 1: Kristen and Caroline are incredible creative predecessors who've been on
Speaker 1: the show for years, and nobody knew whether you all
Speaker 1: listening would tear us apart and hate that we didn't
Speaker 1: live up to your expectations or embrace us, and so
Speaker 1: there was this kind of nervous energy at the very
Speaker 1: beginning and we did a couple of Facebook lives that
Speaker 1: were so fun in the very beginning, and at the
Speaker 1: time it just felt so full of promise and we
Speaker 1: were so supported and off to the races. So I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed the very first few episodes we put together,
Speaker 1: especially Can We Be Friends, which I referenced all the time,
Speaker 1: our very premiere episode about female friendship and the rise
Speaker 1: of pyramid scheme that was like an out of the
Speaker 1: park hit on our first step back. That was your idea,
Speaker 1: and it was a brilliant one, inspired by yeah, let's
Speaker 1: just talk about how great. No, it was great. It
Speaker 1: was great, and it really underscored something that I really
Speaker 1: admired about you, which is that you are not afraid
Speaker 1: to wait into something that's going to be a firestorm. Yes,
Speaker 1: I remember when you said let's do this episode. I thought,
Speaker 1: there are so many women out there who were involved
Speaker 1: in pyramid schemes. We gotta note we're getting ourselves into.
Speaker 1: People are gonna sat on us. And you were like,
Speaker 1: you were like the Lulu Lemon peeps are gonna come after.
Speaker 1: We're gonna put torn up leggings in our bed. A
Speaker 1: love that father, right, And like they did come after
Speaker 1: they did, but it was an important message. It was,
Speaker 1: And again that's something I really admired, not just about
Speaker 1: you as a podcast host and a creative professional, but
Speaker 1: as a person, as a feminist. You do not shy
Speaker 1: away from things that are uncomfortable. You lean into it.
Speaker 1: And oftentimes on this show you'll say, I know this
Speaker 1: is gonna make me unpopular, or I know there's gonna
Speaker 1: be haters. So this is an emily is unpopular opinion,
Speaker 1: and you, rather than running away from that, which plenty
Speaker 1: of people, myself included, would do, you lean into it.
Speaker 1: You say, no, I'm gonna lean into this because it's uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: but you need to hear it. And that that is
Speaker 1: a rare talent. That's not just you as a creative person,
Speaker 1: that's you as a person as a feminist. I see
Speaker 1: you occupy that space in your life and you speak
Speaker 1: the hard truth, and that's rare. People just want to
Speaker 1: be like people want to be friendly, people want everyone
Speaker 1: to like them. You're less concerned about that, and you're
Speaker 1: more concerned about saying what's true and what's real and
Speaker 1: what's authentic. And you can't teach that. That's that's in
Speaker 1: your bones. It's in your DNA and it's something that
Speaker 1: I aspire to because it's so great to be like
Speaker 1: to make everybody laugh and have lots of friends. But
Speaker 1: sometimes something needs to get said that's real. And you
Speaker 1: say those things, and I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: listening I wish they could say those things. And you
Speaker 1: take heat for it, and you know you're gonna take heat,
Speaker 1: and that's okay. You leave it, you lean into the
Speaker 1: heat in all the ways. I think, for the first
Speaker 1: time in my life, I'm speechless. It's the nicest comple
Speaker 1: I've ever gotten my entire life. It's very true. It's
Speaker 1: very true. Damn it, you're making me cry. This is
Speaker 1: so real. I appreciate that it's real. I mean, you're easy,
Speaker 1: being the Anne Hathaway you always say out to Jennifer Lauren.
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what means. It means you're the cool,
Speaker 1: affable one. No, but you're the You're the one who
Speaker 1: takes heat because I feel like it's important. But it
Speaker 1: is important, you know, Lisa. Remember Lisa Simpson taught us
Speaker 1: it's okay to care about stuff. It's okay to try,
Speaker 1: it's okay to have things be important to you. And
Speaker 1: take them seriously and that doesn't make you uncool. Lisa
Speaker 1: Simpson's the coolest person around. You're just like her so sweet.
Speaker 1: I feel Simpson right now, Well, bridget if I can
Speaker 1: compose myself over here, because that was like the most
Speaker 1: scene I have ever felt in my life. Thank you
Speaker 1: for that. I think part of my departure frankly plays
Speaker 1: right into that, because it's not really an easy decision. This,
Speaker 1: as you know, has not been a really easy choice
Speaker 1: to come to. And the reason I'm going off to
Speaker 1: start Bossed Up the podcast, the reason I'm walking away
Speaker 1: from what has been a dream job in so many ways,
Speaker 1: is because I feel so strongly that the stories I'm
Speaker 1: telling and the work that i'm doing a bust Up
Speaker 1: needs to be done. And it's not for everybody, but
Speaker 1: it's important for a lot of people. Basically, it's not
Speaker 1: glamorous or easy to be an entrepreneur, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to take that. Lesta Simpson referenced with me into this
Speaker 1: next adventure because it does feel kind of risky and
Speaker 1: scary and it's uncertain as to how this is all
Speaker 1: going to go. But you know, Lisa Simpson wouldn't let
Speaker 1: that stop her she wouldn't and neither will you. And
Speaker 1: it's so clear that this is something that you take
Speaker 1: so so seriously, like you wouldn't be doing this lightly.
Speaker 1: And I'm an awe listening if you talk about it, really,
Speaker 1: I want to know more about what it's about, Like,
Speaker 1: tell me about this rad new boss Up podcast. Thank
Speaker 1: you for the opportunity. Honestly, bossed Up. The podcast is
Speaker 1: an extension of the community of courage we have built
Speaker 1: at bossed Up, where women who are navigating career transition,
Speaker 1: looking for that next step in life, maybe dealing with
Speaker 1: a career conundrum or two, and might be considering starting
Speaker 1: their own side hustle or business want to come and
Speaker 1: get expert advice, get resources, get their questions answered. And
Speaker 1: so we've created a structure in the podcast to really
Speaker 1: answer a specific listener question every single episode with an
Speaker 1: expert guest, so they won't be able to fill you
Speaker 1: or shoes bid ship, but there will be another person,
Speaker 1: a different person really on every episode with me, and
Speaker 1: we'll be spotlighting incredible women who are making boss moves
Speaker 1: in their career every single week to inspire other women
Speaker 1: to keep on pursuing their dreams and to really lift
Speaker 1: as we climb, which is our model. Yeah. God, what's
Speaker 1: so awesome about that is that, you know, we opened
Speaker 1: the show talking about training. One of the coolest parts
Speaker 1: about training is when a trainer or a coach models
Speaker 1: the behavior they're asking people to do. And I see
Speaker 1: that with you so well, where you know, leaning into
Speaker 1: career transitions, saying maybe it will be scary, but you
Speaker 1: can do it, and saying like I might host a
Speaker 1: feminist podcast today, but I might do something else and
Speaker 1: host that same thing but have at different iteration and
Speaker 1: sort of leaning into that discomfort and acknowledging that it
Speaker 1: might be scary. But you know, what's the expression. It
Speaker 1: sounds so dope. Lead into the discomfort, feel I feel
Speaker 1: the fear, and do it anyway, you know, just do it.
Speaker 1: And I think I'm seen you do that. I'm so
Speaker 1: excited for your voice and helping other women find their
Speaker 1: courage to do that, and I'm so excited for what's
Speaker 1: next for Emily You. It's a very meta moment because
Speaker 1: you're right, it's a podcast about career transitions hosted by
Speaker 1: someone who's currently yet again, it's the podcast within a
Speaker 1: podcast podcast. I love it so after this quick break,
Speaker 1: let's talk through what's next for Sminty and we're back
Speaker 1: and y'all, we just want to be straight up with you.
Speaker 1: Clearly this episode was probably not what you're used to,
Speaker 1: but when someone is important to me, as Emily leaves,
Speaker 1: we have to give her the floor to really like
Speaker 1: look back with respect on. I want to say it,
Speaker 1: the legacy we've built together. I want to say it.
Speaker 1: You wan gonna write it and be like, legacy you've
Speaker 1: built together? Really know they need to be like fis
Speaker 1: pumping and I hope so I hope then a good run.
Speaker 1: It's not at all as long as I thought it
Speaker 1: would be. Same. So you might be asking what's next
Speaker 1: for Sinty And the question is we are figuring that
Speaker 1: out right now, tb D. One of the things I'm
Speaker 1: most excited about in terms of what's next is figuring
Speaker 1: that out together. So if you want to hear from you, like,
Speaker 1: what do you like, what do you not like? What
Speaker 1: do you want to hear more of? What do you
Speaker 1: want to hear less of? Please let us know we
Speaker 1: really really want to hear from you. And you know
Speaker 1: this is a community. If you want people to feel
Speaker 1: empowered to speak up about that community. Well, Bridget we've arrived.
Speaker 1: It's happening. This is like the final sign off of
Speaker 1: the final episode that we're doing of stuff I've never
Speaker 1: told you together. I have been dreading this. You know,
Speaker 1: it's hard. It's hard for me. I'm not someone who
Speaker 1: is good at talking about my feelings or feeling feelings.
Speaker 1: I feel as a typical pisces, I feel, I feel
Speaker 1: a lot of feelings and then you just couldn't get
Speaker 1: stuck inside and don't come out. So this has been that,
Speaker 1: this has been hard. Honestly, just think this is a
Speaker 1: good time for us to remember that over the course
Speaker 1: of your life and career, you, if you're lucky, get
Speaker 1: the chance to work with an incredible collaborator, an incredible
Speaker 1: work wife, an incredible partner in crime, and those people
Speaker 1: come in and out of your life in different ways.
Speaker 1: And I honestly just wish you on this journey on
Speaker 1: this stuff. Mom never told you Grand Adventure the absolute best.
Speaker 1: And I want you to be the boss of this podcast.
Speaker 1: I want you to be the boss of your career
Speaker 1: and your life. And you better believe that I'm sticking
Speaker 1: around as a friend, if not a co host, to
Speaker 1: see how it all turns out. You're going to come
Speaker 1: back to the studio and see us, right, Rachel on
Speaker 1: Twitter tweeted at us. She was like, Bridget, I think
Speaker 1: you might find a hundred and one ways to explain
Speaker 1: why we need Emily as a guest on the podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if we ever need a you know, a negotiation expert,
Speaker 1: a career expert, h R experts expert, pastry cared care expert,
Speaker 1: whatever the experts. You just guess hose ten experts in one.
Speaker 1: Now you're too sweet, um, but no, honestly, I think
Speaker 1: you're this is your time to shine. We've always said
Speaker 1: that this world needs more women of color running, making
Speaker 1: stuff happen, making their voice heard. And I am so
Speaker 1: glad that your voice is going to continue to be
Speaker 1: heard through this microphone because you have such important things
Speaker 1: to share with this world, and you need to keep
Speaker 1: doing this. You need to keep making that voice heard.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna miss you so much, Alright, we better, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we gonna turn into like, yeah, we should have brought
Speaker 1: drink some of this. That would have been brilliant. Damn it,
Speaker 1: that would have been brilliant. Well, I guess this is
Speaker 1: as good a time as any to have our final
Speaker 1: podcast sign off with the one and only Emily Aries
Speaker 1: listeners we usually end on. Some would have called to
Speaker 1: action asking you a question. Here's my call to action.
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Speaker 1: sprinkle her with affection and love. On our social media.
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