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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL
Speaker 1: Podcast from Indianapolis, Indiana. Whoa motte? Dan hands? There? I'm
Speaker 1: joined by a sweet filled with heroes. Mark Sesler, Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? Here
Speaker 1: we are Gregg overlooking as as I speak to him,
Speaker 1: Greg looking out over the field of Lucas Oil Stadium.
Speaker 1: The two thousand ten a f C South champions once
Speaker 1: roamed here. Greg goose bumps. Aren't they a f C
Speaker 1: Championship runner up? Banner still flying high somewhere? They took
Speaker 1: that down night? They took it down? Did they get it?
Speaker 1: I think they're still here? Yes, he's pointing, they're still up, um, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Yes here. We are in Indie and we are in
Speaker 1: one of the the I guess it's a luxury suite.
Speaker 1: Why not it is? It's Huntington Bank West has some
Speaker 1: connections that were class bank. The mayor of Tybee's little
Speaker 1: brother was an executive at Huntington Bank and he texted
Speaker 1: me and said, I spent a lot of nights in
Speaker 1: that sweet. They got some free value out of buying
Speaker 1: this suite. I'll tell you that about that. I used
Speaker 1: to deliver Mayo to Huntington Bank and Sully just took
Speaker 1: a photo for me. Thank you, Sully. Two thousand fourteen
Speaker 1: a f C Finalists. Isn't that the game? Isn't that?
Speaker 1: The yeah game? Well, when you lose seven, you want
Speaker 1: to make sure you remembers anyway. So it's great to
Speaker 1: be here at Lucas Oil Stadium. The Combine at least
Speaker 1: like the proper Combine where all the the underwear Olympics
Speaker 1: take place as yet to start, but we get in
Speaker 1: a little earlier because we like to be boots on
Speaker 1: the ground for the press conferences, for the play, for
Speaker 1: the coaches and gms. Uh. And that's what where we
Speaker 1: were today Wednesday. All day we spent in a very heated, cramped,
Speaker 1: well not cramped, but unnecessarily warm, wetty uh conference hall uh.
Speaker 1: And we talked to a lot of or listen to
Speaker 1: a lot of NFL coaches and gms. And we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about what we took out of that takeaways from
Speaker 1: the Scouting Combined Press or Day one. Also, we have
Speaker 1: a special guest joining us in the suite a little
Speaker 1: bit later. To. In fact, the first is none other
Speaker 1: than Ian Rappaport. It's time to bring up back guys.
Speaker 1: Rap sheet rumors get excited for that. With rap sheet
Speaker 1: in the house, I hope that goes well. Be a
Speaker 1: little weird, right if if we do the SAG in
Speaker 1: a false flat and the guys actually there, Yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: be concerning. I think it would be uh, you know,
Speaker 1: probably in his eyes were not quite as professional as him.
Speaker 1: I think he may maybe look at us and say,
Speaker 1: these guys are sort of jab brownies. I think his
Speaker 1: career will be fine either way. Yeah, he'll be fine,
Speaker 1: but we need to deliver. He does need to come
Speaker 1: face to face with the fact that he's a rumormonger. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll talk to talk to him about that because
Speaker 1: that seems like a bit of a blowtorch move their west. Um.
Speaker 1: And yes, as I said, we're gonna talk about the
Speaker 1: takeaways from the UH combined pressors and Kevin Patcha he's
Speaker 1: gonna join us. I'm sure he's on the bench right now,
Speaker 1: uh getting a little pump in. But he will join
Speaker 1: us and talk about his takeaways and we'll all share
Speaker 1: all of our takeaways. But before we do that. There
Speaker 1: is a bunch of news to get to. So lindsay
Speaker 1: full time behind the glass, lindsay, are you a millionaire?
Speaker 1: All right, she's there, you go, she's a millionaire. I
Speaker 1: can't believe she's here. Still, Uh, let's do some news.
Speaker 1: I might be out after a few a few times
Speaker 1: each week. You got a free fast from my wife. Guys, Now,
Speaker 1: I think Mark help me out with this. I think
Speaker 1: he means he's left to stay out late, hang out
Speaker 1: with all the coaches and journos and all that and
Speaker 1: team officials. But he also his wife game a free pass.
Speaker 1: You never I mean you and I on the flight
Speaker 1: out Um in a bit of incredible technology, sitting next
Speaker 1: to each other on the Delta flight sync up in
Speaker 1: Unison A Bad Mom's Christmas. We watched that together. We
Speaker 1: suffered through about twelve minutes. But that's those women in
Speaker 1: that movie appeared to be Um in some sort of
Speaker 1: a hall past scenario. I think this is a little
Speaker 1: different than that. Well, he wouldn't be the first NFL
Speaker 1: coach that we saw out with women that weren't their
Speaker 1: wives at the NFL Scouting Cup. What are we? Where
Speaker 1: are we going with this? Crept saying Gruden has anything
Speaker 1: to do with that. I'm saying that's about as common
Speaker 1: as anything. We're not throwing anyone in particular under the bus.
Speaker 1: But can I just say, if you are a new
Speaker 1: fan of the NFL or you're not really plugged in
Speaker 1: on what the combine experience is, that what Gruden is
Speaker 1: alluding to is real. No. No, what he means is
Speaker 1: he's gonna be out. He's probably get a steak at Elmo's,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna go to Prime fifty one or whatever
Speaker 1: it's called and have a bunch of drinks. And that's
Speaker 1: part of the allure of this event. It's a very
Speaker 1: much an industry event where the coaches and front office
Speaker 1: officials all get sauced what happens. Why is Mark and
Speaker 1: West like, oh my work? Because what arecause? Because you
Speaker 1: are throwing a head coach under the proof. I am
Speaker 1: very clear this has nothing to do with Gruden. I
Speaker 1: am saying nothing at all. It is a common sight. Yes,
Speaker 1: we've seen it. We won't name names, so we've seen it.
Speaker 1: So many NFL head coaches being accosted and confronted by
Speaker 1: their wives tonight, who are rabbit listeners of them around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. A lot of wags listen to this. Also.
Speaker 1: The basic breakdown here is that Gruden said in himself,
Speaker 1: you got a Hall pass. And if you know the
Speaker 1: what a hall pass means, it means hey got fun,
Speaker 1: got some fun. Okay, Mark, I'm fine. Uncomfortable, No, not
Speaker 1: at all. I think number one Gruden is a rock
Speaker 1: star in this town. Don't even know if he needed
Speaker 1: a Hall pass, you could do whatever he wants. Obviously interesting.
Speaker 1: Another interesting comment there from Mark. Let's get into the news.
Speaker 1: Not even nearly, Greg, I'm not even on the top
Speaker 1: five of an interesting comments on the show so far.
Speaker 1: Let's start. Let's start with my New York Jets, who
Speaker 1: made some news once a bout a time, like three
Speaker 1: years ago. The Jet had a loaded defensive line. It
Speaker 1: was called by the fan base the do you remember
Speaker 1: West Pop quiz Sons of Anarchy? Very very true. It
Speaker 1: was a popular FX show at the time, and it
Speaker 1: was Sheldon Richardson, it was Damon Harrison, and it was
Speaker 1: Moe Wilkerson. And they lost Damon Harrison to free agency,
Speaker 1: and then they cut Sheldon Richardson or traded Sheldon Richardson
Speaker 1: and now Mo Wilkerson is gone, and three years they're
Speaker 1: all gone. Two years really? Uh. The team informed Wilkerson
Speaker 1: of his release on Wednesday. Uh. This comes just two
Speaker 1: years after uh Mo signed a five year, ninety six
Speaker 1: million or eighty six million dollar extension with the Jets.
Speaker 1: He ends up getting almost thirty seven million uh off
Speaker 1: the Jets steals it from the Jets really, which is
Speaker 1: a common theme in recent years with their big free
Speaker 1: agency deals. Before the team cuts bait at the first
Speaker 1: opportunity they can without getting killed by the cap. So
Speaker 1: Mo Wilkerson hits the free agent market. Uh a damaged property.
Speaker 1: It was. Yeah. I think you have to wonder about
Speaker 1: his his attitude problems, his tardiness, his commitment to the game.
Speaker 1: But he also falls under the Bill Parcels planet theory.
Speaker 1: There's only so many guys on the planet with his size,
Speaker 1: length and athleticism, So he's gonna get plenty of coaches
Speaker 1: and executives who who think they can turn his career around.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead, Well, I would say, here's a
Speaker 1: guy that didn't show up to his own birthday party
Speaker 1: at the Jets facility. We we ranked him number twenty
Speaker 1: one on our Top one one for you. Yeah, you were.
Speaker 1: And it's weird because West and I basically saw him
Speaker 1: at the exact same spot. Although now that I've thought
Speaker 1: about it a little more and I'm reading this tweet
Speaker 1: from Maniche Medicine, there are some doozies of the stories
Speaker 1: of Moe Wilkerson's basically irresponsibility. I do wonder. It's a
Speaker 1: guy that's made a lot of money who's probably not
Speaker 1: gonna get paid that much money, So you have you
Speaker 1: do have to be pretty worried about what's this guy,
Speaker 1: what's the fire in the belly for a guy who
Speaker 1: might only be making five or six seven million dollars
Speaker 1: a year. Only for the Jets fans that follow the
Speaker 1: team closely, it's a He's a sad story at the
Speaker 1: end of the day because he was a hometown kid
Speaker 1: who's from Jersey, went to Temple, drafted by the Jets
Speaker 1: over four or five years, built himself into a true
Speaker 1: star and like a guy that could stuff the run,
Speaker 1: that could get to the quarterback. And then and it's
Speaker 1: really been dark for the Jets since this day Week seventeen,
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen, when they were ten and five and
Speaker 1: then blew the game against Rex and Buffalo missed the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Wilkerson broke his leg in that game, and I don't
Speaker 1: know West. That's the one thing I'm curious about if
Speaker 1: he still is even the same guy he was before
Speaker 1: he broke his leg. He's never been as dominant. He
Speaker 1: had little uh fits and starts where he looked like
Speaker 1: the old mode. But between the leg injury and the
Speaker 1: chronic tardiness and monishus to be believed more stories behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, this you know, I have to move down.
Speaker 1: This has proven to be your strong suit as a
Speaker 1: football evaluator. Guys coming off a foot or leg dreams
Speaker 1: you will put us in our place and say, hey, look,
Speaker 1: there's no guarantee this guy is gonna come back what
Speaker 1: he was. I would like to talk to Carl Dunbar,
Speaker 1: the two thousand fourteen Jets defensive line coach. We can
Speaker 1: find him tonight. I mean, what the knucklehead the rage
Speaker 1: knucklehead factor he dealt with between Wilkerson and Sheldon Richardson,
Speaker 1: and that really kept Damon Harrison. That's the takeaway. Moving
Speaker 1: on the Steelers, Uh, We'll not have Ryan Shazier next season.
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a surprise to anybody, But
Speaker 1: it's official, Um, Steelers GM, Kevin Colbert, Uh made it official?
Speaker 1: Did I say that right? I think it's it's close. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's totally right. Oh why did you say close? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Sometimes like getting confused with Stephen Colbert against
Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert. Yeah, because Mark gave me a look and
Speaker 1: I was like, did I say the wrong name? I
Speaker 1: was only half listening, so I had to cycle back
Speaker 1: through my mind to what it was you even said. Anyway. Uh.
Speaker 1: Colbert told reporters Wednesday at the Combine that Chaser won't
Speaker 1: play in that of course, the result of the spinal
Speaker 1: injury he suffered last season. Uh. This comes on the
Speaker 1: heels of Shasier expressing his desire to return and be
Speaker 1: an All Pro for the Steelers. But this, uh, Greg
Speaker 1: is a sad story because, um, you know, probably is
Speaker 1: not gonna come back. I don't want to count him out,
Speaker 1: but he's definitely not coming back next year. I mean
Speaker 1: this is uncharted territory. He wants to play football again, obviously,
Speaker 1: rehabilitating his back and his spine for his life is
Speaker 1: the first priority. And I think Colbert put this out
Speaker 1: there today because now you get into the unfortunate football
Speaker 1: side of things, that they need to get his salary
Speaker 1: cap relief. They need to put him on a list.
Speaker 1: I'm not off the top of my head sure exactly
Speaker 1: which list it's gonna be, so, but basically so that
Speaker 1: they can get the space to spend that money and
Speaker 1: to look for Ryan Jezier's replacement because he's a huge,
Speaker 1: huge part of the defense. Moving on, a lot of
Speaker 1: talk about Kirk Cousins is about to become the highest
Speaker 1: paid player of all time. He got Drew Brees in
Speaker 1: the mix in terms of annual salary. Well, don't forget
Speaker 1: about Aaron Rodgers. He is a guy that needs a
Speaker 1: new deal, and the Packers are making progress on signing
Speaker 1: Rogers to a new contract, Packers president Mark Murphy uh
Speaker 1: said telling ESPN on Tuesday. Murphy added that new general
Speaker 1: manager Brian guns the Kunst talking to rap sheet, who
Speaker 1: of course is gonna be on a little later um
Speaker 1: down during the pressers, and he said casually, Oh, there's Goody,
Speaker 1: just go anyway, Goody, uh added uh. Murphy added that
Speaker 1: Goody and Russ Ball, who's director of football operations, are
Speaker 1: both involved in the negotiations, so this is something they
Speaker 1: hope to quote hammer out uh in this offseason. So
Speaker 1: and when Rogers gets paid, I mean, come on, that's
Speaker 1: in the league right. Well, Goody came out and said, well,
Speaker 1: you have to pay him now, or you have to
Speaker 1: pay him more and more. It's like he said, flat out,
Speaker 1: this is the best player in football. We know where
Speaker 1: He's going to cost a lot of money, but it
Speaker 1: will cost more because in Thomas Dimitrof alluded to it.
Speaker 1: Today the Falcons general manager Matt Ryan is doing a
Speaker 1: new contract too, and he says he's been watching these
Speaker 1: quarterback contracts very closely. He seemed, you know, borderline concerned
Speaker 1: about it. And I think they know that Cousins is
Speaker 1: gonna set a new benchmark and then Rogers and Ryan
Speaker 1: in some sort of order is going to go above
Speaker 1: that bench mark and they will be the highest paid
Speaker 1: players that Greg it's such a goot. And Kunst, he's
Speaker 1: a total Goodakunst Gouda. Kunst was a regular, you know,
Speaker 1: HBO special comedian compared to Ted Thompson. Here at the
Speaker 1: comment I used to love but you know, Ted Thompson
Speaker 1: had that very dry sense of humor that I appreciated.
Speaker 1: And he's gone in terms of being a funny man.
Speaker 1: I mean he's not a funny man. Uh. You ready
Speaker 1: for the next really boring grading uh, non football related
Speaker 1: story that you're gonna have to deal with next season.
Speaker 1: Commissioner Roger Goodell and the NFL are ex acted to
Speaker 1: compel compel Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to reimburse legal
Speaker 1: fees the league incurred during this past season. According to
Speaker 1: rap sheet uh Rapport reported, the payment of more than
Speaker 1: two million by Jones would be a quote reimbursement of
Speaker 1: costs incurred by member clubs associated with Zeke Elliott's efforts
Speaker 1: to appeal a six game band and Jones's work to
Speaker 1: sloke Roger Goodell's contract extension. West You've read every football book.
Speaker 1: This is kind of right out of like the Al
Speaker 1: Davis Manual or somethink. The fact that this is a
Speaker 1: story blocking extensions of a commissioner, fightings, uh fighting suspensions
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. Here it is along those lines.
Speaker 1: It is not close to what al Davis though. The
Speaker 1: enmity that al Davis have for Pete Roselle and vice versa,
Speaker 1: and al Davis his ability just to be a stinker. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I think it's great to, you know, try to keep
Speaker 1: this storyline in the news as long as possible for
Speaker 1: the league. Come on, guys, two million bucks, What is
Speaker 1: two million bucks to a fourteen billion dollar company? Let
Speaker 1: it die, Let's move on. Jerry Jones has that buried
Speaker 1: in his yard. I don't think anybody went I would
Speaker 1: not want to get on Jerry Jones bands. And it's
Speaker 1: a principal thing. Jared is not gonna cough up two million,
Speaker 1: and in fact were varying reports that he's prepared to
Speaker 1: fight it. So get excited. Don't go to war against
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones. It's over for Jonathan's Jonathan Stewart and the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers after a decade together. The team announced Wednesday
Speaker 1: that the soon to be thirty one year old running
Speaker 1: back has been released, the thirteenth overall pick in two
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen. Uh he is the franchises all time rushing leader,
Speaker 1: but um West, it's the end of the line. Three
Speaker 1: point four yards per carried this back season this past
Speaker 1: season with Christian McCaffrey along with him as a running mate.
Speaker 1: I remember thinking at some point in this past season
Speaker 1: that younger football fans and maybe fans from you know,
Speaker 1: across the sea who were just picking up the game
Speaker 1: probably would have no idea that Jonathan Stewart entered the
Speaker 1: league in two thousand and eight is one of the
Speaker 1: most athletic, dynamic running macks we've ever seen physically, and
Speaker 1: by you know, by two thousand sixteen, two thousand and fifteen,
Speaker 1: he was a guy averaging about three point five yards
Speaker 1: per carry, no big playability, his long speed was clearly gone.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, a guy. I loved his career. I
Speaker 1: loved watching him, but um, but I think the end
Speaker 1: is here. By the way, this morning, like before and
Speaker 1: being announced that he had been cut by the team,
Speaker 1: he was on an American Airlines flight. Tweeted out American
Speaker 1: Airlines tripping this morning with this landing and Charlotte exclamation point.
Speaker 1: Plane went in for landing about a hundred feet from
Speaker 1: the runway, then pulled the okyjokey back up we go.
Speaker 1: That's a tough day. That's a that's that's a guy
Speaker 1: just having a tough day. Moving on the Mike Lennon
Speaker 1: era already over in Chicago. I remember just last year
Speaker 1: at this exact time, people are wondering who will Mike Lennon,
Speaker 1: Uh signed with and fail quickly uh with It turned
Speaker 1: out it was the Bears. They signed him to that deal,
Speaker 1: three years, forty five million. He got, He got some money,
Speaker 1: but they had a trigger out after only owing eighteen
Speaker 1: and a half million to Glennon, and they took that trigger,
Speaker 1: so they pay eighteen and a half million for four starts. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is the type of fate that I wonder Greg
Speaker 1: could meet a J. Mccaren, But Mike Lennon back on
Speaker 1: the free agent market, I don't think mccaren will get
Speaker 1: quite the money just because there's other quarterbacks in this market.
Speaker 1: Glennon timed it well, but coaches love arm strength and
Speaker 1: some of the things that Glennon does. And I bet
Speaker 1: Mike Glennon gets a contract this year that's probably similar
Speaker 1: to something like Nick Foles got last year. Like the
Speaker 1: Bucks will still pay him five or six million dollars
Speaker 1: a year. I bet to be their backup. Monte Davis
Speaker 1: signs with the Bills. I'm just saying the league does
Speaker 1: have a recency bias, and and they sour on guys
Speaker 1: quickly when they've been exposed. Davis agrees to terms on
Speaker 1: a one year deal with the Bills UH. Davis tweeted
Speaker 1: Bills Mafia UH to let people know that it was
Speaker 1: a done deal. Davis was a very good corner with
Speaker 1: the Colts UH for several years, had some injury issues.
Speaker 1: Aged thirty west. I kind of like that deal, Buffalo,
Speaker 1: how about you? I like it too. He was a
Speaker 1: guy who he went I think about two years without
Speaker 1: allowing a touchdown. He was a legitimate shutdown corner and
Speaker 1: then the last two years he's been a disappointment. But
Speaker 1: guys like him who used to be Pro Bowl players
Speaker 1: and are now about thirty years old, you never really know.
Speaker 1: You can't predict whether this is going to be the
Speaker 1: end of the line, whether they're towing that cliff or
Speaker 1: whether you know, like Eric Wettele or somebody there's a
Speaker 1: couple of Pro Bowl seasons in his future. Still, who
Speaker 1: is a better track record working getting the best out
Speaker 1: of secondary players who have been cast off by previous teams.
Speaker 1: In Sean McDermott, I like that that's their identity that
Speaker 1: they that is their defense is building from the secondary
Speaker 1: and then forward, and I think it's a really good
Speaker 1: looking secondary. And finally a player comes off the top
Speaker 1: ten of the top one oh one ziggy Ansa tagged
Speaker 1: by Detroit. I suppose he could be traded, but he
Speaker 1: probably not. Ziggy Ansa back with the Lions, Mark Well.
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll get into that Patricia down the road here,
Speaker 1: but you can't in his first season offseason is the
Speaker 1: Lions coach pulls a ziggy Ansa off the roster and
Speaker 1: leave that defense without him. I like them, but the
Speaker 1: fact that they're willing to pay seventeen and a half
Speaker 1: million dollars to Answa I think speaks to this that
Speaker 1: there's no pass rushers available. I mean, the the top
Speaker 1: pass rushers are are Julius Peppers and Adrian Clayborne and
Speaker 1: not a dude. We're not gonna be able to find
Speaker 1: any in free agency unless it's just these bargain kind
Speaker 1: of risks, so you gotta keep them. One last news
Speaker 1: item before we move on. Do you Dan, as a
Speaker 1: Jets fan or Greg as a two lane fan, have
Speaker 1: Matt Forte memories he's going to retire. Thank you, Wes.
Speaker 1: I forgot about that, and I shouldn't have. Matt Forte
Speaker 1: announced his retirement, ending one of the more underrated careers
Speaker 1: for a guy that was a dynamic, like multipurpose player
Speaker 1: that just got stuck out a bunch of crap teams. Well,
Speaker 1: that the retirement timing was sort of fitting for him,
Speaker 1: that he has been so overlooked throughout his career that
Speaker 1: if this news how up in a month ago, it's
Speaker 1: like he would get a day of talking about Matt Forte.
Speaker 1: Now he's item in fifty five if even maybe why
Speaker 1: did he because he was never that guy. He was
Speaker 1: never that guy. He mean he not. He leads the
Speaker 1: league since he entered it in Yarch and scrimmage, not
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, not Chris Johnson, not any other running back,
Speaker 1: and it's not even close. He's a guy who I
Speaker 1: think will get some Hall of Fame consideration, probably won't
Speaker 1: make it because he was stuck on a bunch of
Speaker 1: garbage offenses with garbage quarterbacks. If he had played on
Speaker 1: with some good quarterback or on some good team, we'd
Speaker 1: be talking about him a chance that forgotten Bears playoff
Speaker 1: run with Cutler was the only time he was ever
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Where does he rank in your Jets? What?
Speaker 1: Tom top one thousand, uh number? A big not a big,
Speaker 1: but maybe the all time greatest player to ever come
Speaker 1: out of tu lane, not at two lane, but as
Speaker 1: a pro number one. That's a that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Was a great player. That's what's happening in the news.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on special show here at Lucas
Speaker 1: Oil Stadium. So we have a guest. We never have
Speaker 1: guests on. We don't like other people. And this man
Speaker 1: that is now joining us, it's been a while, it's
Speaker 1: been a minute since he's been here, but since it
Speaker 1: is combined season, this is this is when he's really
Speaker 1: this is when he's at his highest level of importance
Speaker 1: and relevance. So we got him in here. Ian Rappaport
Speaker 1: at rap Sheet on Twitter in the blood, welcome in,
Speaker 1: highest level of importance, lowest level of energy, and overall
Speaker 1: good feeling. Kind of a shot at what he does
Speaker 1: the rest of the year. I feel as many mountaintop
Speaker 1: experiences the draft of yea, yeah, draft is a good one.
Speaker 1: But like this is it though, you said, let's see
Speaker 1: how this segment goes. Yeah, I mean I'm not I
Speaker 1: was actually gonna answer that phone call in a line
Speaker 1: of recent events, Yeah, that's right, and just got into
Speaker 1: a massive feud with a d C based sport some
Speaker 1: shock jock about hanging up to take a phone call. Yeah,
Speaker 1: until if I'm not taking this phone call unless it's this,
Speaker 1: I might This is your chance to kind of humanize
Speaker 1: yourself too. But you guys don't like the radio people,
Speaker 1: do you? I mean podcast people and radio people I
Speaker 1: feel like are odds. I like the idea of this.
Speaker 1: If it's true, they're not enemies, they're not friends either necessarily.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm not gonna say anything about my
Speaker 1: friend Chad Duke's who had made up with since I
Speaker 1: privately text and you could find it on the internet,
Speaker 1: the feud between Dukes and rappaport Um. But I privately
Speaker 1: texted Ian I said, do not make up with that guy.
Speaker 1: He's this is classic shock jock behavior. He's trying to
Speaker 1: play you. But you did go on the show because
Speaker 1: some other colleagues of yours convinced you to bury the
Speaker 1: hatchet as it were. Yeah, Mike are Polo um noted
Speaker 1: friend of the show. I'm sure he doesn't listen. Um
Speaker 1: he uh. He advised me to call in and be
Speaker 1: the better man. And you know, the more I thought
Speaker 1: about it, I am the better man. I think that
Speaker 1: the only thing that was interesting for me was I
Speaker 1: gave him an opportunity to come clean and really apologize
Speaker 1: for all the things he said about me which were
Speaker 1: not nice, and he declined, which I think speaks for it.
Speaker 1: So I said, this sounds like the feuds were ignited.
Speaker 1: I'm at peace with where it is. I am at peace.
Speaker 1: He just declined he could not meet you on the
Speaker 1: higher road, and we take the baton and start a
Speaker 1: few with him. I just you know what I mean. Talk.
Speaker 1: We got a lot to get to because Ian your
Speaker 1: name comes up probably more than anyone else on our
Speaker 1: podcast because we have to cite you, and most of
Speaker 1: the reporting because we were working for the same company,
Speaker 1: Big Mac comes up a lot as well. We started
Speaker 1: a segment last week called rap that you know we
Speaker 1: thought when okay, it was like a six out of ten. Uh.
Speaker 1: Now here's an opportunity for rap Sheet himself to be
Speaker 1: here as we go through your reports. Now let's start
Speaker 1: off the top, right off the bat Do you have
Speaker 1: an issue with the fact that the segments called rap
Speaker 1: sheet rumors when it's based off your reporting? It does? Um.
Speaker 1: I would say I've come to grips with my role
Speaker 1: in this football world, right, Like, so there's there's some
Speaker 1: where it's like, you know, source, this guy just got released,
Speaker 1: or this trade just happened. Outside of that, it's a
Speaker 1: lot of like this is probably gonna happen, this is
Speaker 1: probably not gonna happen. Keep an eye in this thing. Uh.
Speaker 1: And So I used to get offended when people would
Speaker 1: call it rumors, um or gossip. But I did get
Speaker 1: voted biggest gossip in high school in the your book Superlatives,
Speaker 1: So I'm really happy to live up to that. Um.
Speaker 1: If they're all rumors, then you can't be wrong ever,
Speaker 1: So that's nice. Uh. Yeah, I would say the internet
Speaker 1: would would view some of that differently. Um, But yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with that interpretation right there. Alright, Ian is
Speaker 1: a very busy man. So let's start going through these
Speaker 1: uh rap sheet rumors. Starting with a report that came
Speaker 1: out just a couple of hours before uh we recorded
Speaker 1: today's podcast on Wednesday afternoon. Here it comes the exact
Speaker 1: tweet for me, and the expectation is that Patriots tight
Speaker 1: end Rob Gronkowski will return for After pondering his future, comma,
Speaker 1: I'm told, I'm told he said we may never make
Speaker 1: a he may never make a grand announcement, but the
Speaker 1: belief is entertainment opportunities, parenthetical acting, w W E closed,
Speaker 1: parenthetical will wait? Is that you doing that? I don't know?
Speaker 1: Go ahead? Uh yeah. So it sounds like Gronk is
Speaker 1: coming back, and which is not really surprised to anyone.
Speaker 1: I mean, people who know him well expect him to
Speaker 1: come back. The Patriots expected him to come back. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I do really think he enjoys this of people
Speaker 1: wondering what he's gonna do, the Patriots probably wondering what
Speaker 1: he's gonna do, kind of the uncertainty. And you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's different, dude. Um, He's about as real as
Speaker 1: they come. But he'll say things like and he's people
Speaker 1: have spoken with this offseason like Ali mill and I'm
Speaker 1: retired or I'm just kidding, I'm coming back. Like he
Speaker 1: really has sort of played this up a little bit. Um.
Speaker 1: He also is rarely sort of serious about himself, so
Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect a like, all right, guys, I'm coming
Speaker 1: back kind of thing. Like to me, what it sounds
Speaker 1: like is he's just gonna show up for off season
Speaker 1: conditioning in April and then a big all right, So
Speaker 1: do you get the sense that he's the kind of
Speaker 1: guy who doesn't really care as much about something like
Speaker 1: being viewed as the greatest tight end in history or
Speaker 1: playing a couple more years to kind of cement that, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't think he cares about being the greatest tight
Speaker 1: end in history. Um, I I've just never heard that
Speaker 1: come up. I mean, I think if you ask Belichick,
Speaker 1: he would make a full throated argument that if he
Speaker 1: continues that he's going to be that. I just don't
Speaker 1: think for Gronk, it's it's really I don't think that
Speaker 1: that's the way he thinks. I think the injuries have
Speaker 1: been very hard on him. What about the report or
Speaker 1: or rumor from another guy that you once had a
Speaker 1: feud with Tom Kerrn in the Boston area, a lot
Speaker 1: of feuds saying, uh that Gronk you know, thought about
Speaker 1: retiring even in training camp across his mind, that he
Speaker 1: was not happy with how the Patriots handled some of
Speaker 1: his um desired ways to train, and that he really
Speaker 1: even thought about walking away back in August. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that was accurate. Um. I was actually texting Karen
Speaker 1: about that today. I mean, that's more bridges. Oh no,
Speaker 1: Karen and I always have it off again on again
Speaker 1: type deal. He's a great guy. We we co exist
Speaker 1: well and except when we don't. Once, once you got
Speaker 1: out of the locker room, I believe he wants compared
Speaker 1: you to a little rat kind of running around like
Speaker 1: looking at looking to eat little pieces of cheese. Bring
Speaker 1: that back, right, Yeah, I mean that sounds that sounds right.
Speaker 1: And I don't think people realize what it's like in
Speaker 1: the Patriots locker room. It's not like there's a big
Speaker 1: buffet where you just sort of like get your bowl
Speaker 1: and shovel in the lasagne. It's you gotta dive for
Speaker 1: your cheese over the place, like oh there's there's and
Speaker 1: in spikes. He might only be in the locker room
Speaker 1: for three minutes. He got to grab him when he's there. Anyway, Um, yes,
Speaker 1: let's it was. It was a hard year for Gronk.
Speaker 1: I think the injuries are difficult for him. Not being
Speaker 1: able to come back from the concussion in sort of
Speaker 1: like a snap was really hard. Um and the the
Speaker 1: Belichick tension that we all talked about with Brady and
Speaker 1: and Um, Brady's trainer Alex Guerrero, and you know all
Speaker 1: that stuff. I mean that existed beyond Brady existed with
Speaker 1: Gronk too. It was a hard year. It's always going
Speaker 1: to be a hard year. Uh And yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he needed to take a deep breath from it. Would
Speaker 1: they ever trade him? I know we have a lot
Speaker 1: of news, but this one's more interesting than the rest
Speaker 1: of him combined in my mind. Would they ever trade Gronk?
Speaker 1: I would never say never for the Patriots trading anyone
Speaker 1: except for Tom Brady, who was never getting traded. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Dan wants to move on. Let's keep moving. We got
Speaker 1: a lot to get to. Uh. Next up from rap
Speaker 1: Sheet Big report, the Broncos are in talks to trade
Speaker 1: for Redskin safety Sua Crave sources say, says rapping Forth,
Speaker 1: they are the team most interested in the likely landing
Speaker 1: spot for the talented former second rounder. No deal done yet, Saucy.
Speaker 1: These tweets looking at them over Dan's shoulder. The expanded
Speaker 1: character count. You're a fan of it, apparently, I just
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to be one of
Speaker 1: those people that's like, oh, I'm so important that I
Speaker 1: have to use all characters. It's not like that. It's
Speaker 1: just sometimes you need a little extra more so like
Speaker 1: my Craven tweet was one tweet, whereas in the past
Speaker 1: it would have been too multiple. I like, I like
Speaker 1: the format. Yeah, Uh, this one is interesting and I
Speaker 1: sounds like this one's gonna happen. It's just really a
Speaker 1: matter of agreeing on compensation and just kind of figuring
Speaker 1: out where they're out. I mean, the Redskins are are
Speaker 1: definitely open to trading him. The Broncos wanted more than anyone. Uh,
Speaker 1: he would assuming he wants to play, and I know
Speaker 1: he does, and I know the Ridskins have some concerns
Speaker 1: about it. Um. He's an interesting piece because he's sort
Speaker 1: of fits in like the safety linebacker kind of hybrid
Speaker 1: DWN Buchanan type of you know, type of guy. Um,
Speaker 1: he's really talented. The Broncos loved him coming out. Um,
Speaker 1: so it sounds like this one's gonna happen, and probably
Speaker 1: happen here. Uh. Next up, First, we'll start with a
Speaker 1: report from Dale Lolly of d k Pittsburgh sports dot Com.
Speaker 1: He reported Kevin Colvert just said that the Steelers are
Speaker 1: not interested in trading Martevios Bryant and have not called anyone.
Speaker 1: Said they have gotten calls, but have said they aren't
Speaker 1: interested in trading him. Ian chimes in with a quote
Speaker 1: retweet that is true. There is interest from several other teams.
Speaker 1: Didn't you try to get me to trademark this a
Speaker 1: couple of years back? I did. That's definitely not me
Speaker 1: because I have no business sense, but probably somebody did,
Speaker 1: you know. I think it was you at Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this is one where you know, this was a
Speaker 1: storyline we're following during the season where Martavis Bryant wanted
Speaker 1: to be traded, denied it, then came out and admitted
Speaker 1: that he did in fact want to be trade and
Speaker 1: then he was kind of a good soldier and played
Speaker 1: and played well and watched Juju Smith Schuster kind of
Speaker 1: take some of the shine. Um, they are getting calls,
Speaker 1: there is interest. Uh, there's a couple issues obviously. You know,
Speaker 1: he's he's dealing with suspension, he came off suspension, he
Speaker 1: made made his way back from banishment. There's that, there's
Speaker 1: the new contract that he wants he sort of do
Speaker 1: for one. It's a lot going on here and I
Speaker 1: don't know if they'll be able to trade him and
Speaker 1: get the sort of interest. Um. I feel like Colbert's
Speaker 1: not a guy who b s is a lot that
Speaker 1: if he says publicly we're not interested in trading him,
Speaker 1: I take that a little more, you know, seriously than
Speaker 1: some gms you might say that. Yeah, I just when
Speaker 1: you see the first of all, that just means he
Speaker 1: hasn't gotten an offer that's worth taking. I mean, there
Speaker 1: definitely is a price. I just we do this so
Speaker 1: often where you come here, you talk to a gym,
Speaker 1: and everyone's on the record here, right, So I remember
Speaker 1: a couple of years back and no fault of Rick Spielman.
Speaker 1: I definitely get it. But you know, tells all of
Speaker 1: us I have no plans to trade Percy Harvin, all right,
Speaker 1: that's that, and then end up trading Percy Harvin. So
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll we'll see what happens. See what happened.
Speaker 1: Martavis Bryant made some plays last year, wasn't as maybe
Speaker 1: as a bigger playmaker he was before the suspension, still
Speaker 1: the same guy post suspension that he was pretty in
Speaker 1: your mind he had all the drops earlier in the year,
Speaker 1: and part of that was Ben Roethlisberger and him were
Speaker 1: not on the same page with their DEEPO. But I
Speaker 1: thought he played well down the stretch I'd be willing
Speaker 1: to kind of go out and say, yeah, he can
Speaker 1: be the same guy again. Coming up next, here we
Speaker 1: go hashtag Browns. That's how Ian starts this tweet. Basic
Speaker 1: social media. Uh. Brown's coach Hugh Jackson said, Joe Thomas
Speaker 1: will quote come out and let us know fairly soon
Speaker 1: about what he wants to do. I'm told he is
Speaker 1: preparing to play, and those who know him well believe
Speaker 1: he'll be back. No marks tlaer. This makes you happy
Speaker 1: because you love yourself some Joey. I love Joe Thomas,
Speaker 1: but I love him enough where I would like him
Speaker 1: to do what he truly wants to do because he
Speaker 1: feels like a media fireball right now. I just don't
Speaker 1: want him to come back for one more year. And
Speaker 1: they go to and fourteen in the entire house implodes
Speaker 1: upon itself, like if he's off the greener past. That's
Speaker 1: another way that years. I mean, everybody, I do believe
Speaker 1: he's coming back. Um. I think the Browns think he's
Speaker 1: coming back as well. It sounds like he's gonna probably
Speaker 1: announce the some sort of social media way probably pretty soon.
Speaker 1: It's interesting because I mean, I feel like we've done
Speaker 1: the Browns are about to break out or come back
Speaker 1: or whatever, like nine thousand times. I sat with an
Speaker 1: office coordinator last night who had to play them last
Speaker 1: year and think the defense is going to be great
Speaker 1: and that they are basically a quarterback away from being
Speaker 1: a legitimately media ocre team. That's a huge well for them.
Speaker 1: It's a I mean, you know, if you're mediocre, then
Speaker 1: you're probably like five and five or six and six
Speaker 1: starting December and then throw they'll throw another parade in
Speaker 1: Cleveland if they're in playoff contention going into the center
Speaker 1: settled up? Could his decisions be based on what happens
Speaker 1: at quarterback? Though? If you go in with a J McCarron,
Speaker 1: like the draft pick, no one's excited about it. If
Speaker 1: it ever shook out that way, No is a J
Speaker 1: McCarron good or I mean, like that wouldn't be a solution.
Speaker 1: Maybe well to unsee Andy Dalton news about average can
Speaker 1: Thomas wait, we can't wait that long to find out really,
Speaker 1: because he's not at least not till the draft, right.
Speaker 1: I mean I think that they also thought he was
Speaker 1: coming back when they did the extension for him last year,
Speaker 1: But I mean I would say this a J McCarron
Speaker 1: as someone who could come in and hold the place
Speaker 1: of a rookie that they're going to take potentially number
Speaker 1: one overall, would be a pretty good option compared to
Speaker 1: the other options. Next up, here's a nice scoop some
Speaker 1: good scoopage so far this weekie, and you're doing well?
Speaker 1: Uh hashtag usc QB. Sam Donald won't throw at the
Speaker 1: combine here in Indy. He'll do everything else saving throwing
Speaker 1: for his pro days. Anybody are there people in this
Speaker 1: building mad at Sam Donald? Is this a big deal?
Speaker 1: I'm mad? Why not throw that? I think the there's
Speaker 1: two reasons to not throw. One is you're not gonna
Speaker 1: have the one everyone talks about, which is you're not
Speaker 1: gonna have your receiver's not gonna you know. Um. The
Speaker 1: other reason is it sounds like he's acting like and
Speaker 1: maybe is probably is the presumptive number one. And if
Speaker 1: you have nothing to prove, then why would you go
Speaker 1: out and throw and potentially look bad? What's interesting is
Speaker 1: is that gonna is he just gonna be number one
Speaker 1: and they'll just be that? Or is it gonna change it?
Speaker 1: So I'm going to impress us here or I don't know,
Speaker 1: um what happened. You know the ratings that the combine
Speaker 1: can change, and I'm curiously which way. But I've seen
Speaker 1: like someone put out a list of quarterbacks who haven't
Speaker 1: who decided not to throw at the combine, and it's
Speaker 1: a list of quarterbacks that either got drafted how high
Speaker 1: or higher than you'd expect. It's like Ryan Tannehill didn't
Speaker 1: even throw at the combine and he ended up going
Speaker 1: much higher than there was. Like it's a long list
Speaker 1: of many number one picks and many guys who got overdrafted.
Speaker 1: Like if it's not gonna really matter or help you,
Speaker 1: why bother? Speaking of throwing, let's say we were walking
Speaker 1: down the street outside Lucas Oil Stadium and I took
Speaker 1: your phone and flung it and it landed into a
Speaker 1: garbage truck on the move, landed right in the back
Speaker 1: on its way to Muncie, Indiana. Screwed? Would you be
Speaker 1: on a one to one hundred scepters driving the car right, um,
Speaker 1: middle finger driving and can't text and drive? Then I'm okay,
Speaker 1: I would say probably not as screwed as you think,
Speaker 1: because I have several other devices, or I could I
Speaker 1: text I text from my computer. I text from my iPad.
Speaker 1: Um making phone calls would be difficult. Um, I would
Speaker 1: have to have some weird FaceTime calls with some aigens
Speaker 1: or team executives or coaches, DC area shock jock. But
Speaker 1: not easy to foil. You you have other your yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and you know there'd be some would be
Speaker 1: some overnighted phones coming in quick, get on the cloud,
Speaker 1: restore the info. I would be like a nightmare scenario. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're a superhero with a utility though. That's uh, two more,
Speaker 1: two more, and then we gotta let rep sheet go.
Speaker 1: This is one who, like a true insider, never sleeps.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Just this one gives me goose bumps
Speaker 1: just looking at it. Spotted on the way to Indie
Speaker 1: colon hashtag oh u QB Baker Mayfield in a middle seat,
Speaker 1: right next to hashtag rams coach Sean McVeigh on a
Speaker 1: at Southwest Air. You're looking for like extra miles or
Speaker 1: some not they might reach right, Who are your McVeigh
Speaker 1: was seated first, Mayfield hustled to sit next to him.
Speaker 1: There may be some QB talk going on. Oh a
Speaker 1: little flavor like it. It's just like scenes from a flavor,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, a little flavor, I mean little salt
Speaker 1: and pepper. The amount of people who commented surprised that
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh flew Southwest was astounding. It was amazing, and
Speaker 1: like he's amazing. He's a regular dude. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know what I expected. I mean, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: stand sends the private plane to India. He was asked
Speaker 1: about what he talked about with Mayfield after his press
Speaker 1: press conference. On the side, he said he liked mayfield
Speaker 1: comfortable swag. That that was the way he termed it,
Speaker 1: Like it's like swag, but it's like comfortable swag. He's
Speaker 1: he takes it's not trying to put it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: did too. I thought it was really perfectly. It is interesting,
Speaker 1: like you know, big obviously, Baker Mayfield is gonna be
Speaker 1: like a huge topic here and for the next couple
Speaker 1: of months or whatever, and he's going to get the
Speaker 1: Johnny comparisons and all that. He got nothing but rave
Speaker 1: reviews in Mobile. He said, I mean he's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a prick, which I mean in the nicest sense,
Speaker 1: because like he is a competitive two and you've gotten
Speaker 1: that as well. Yeah, like he's kind of a prick,
Speaker 1: but he's actually, you know, not a bad guy like
Speaker 1: that type of thing. It sounds he has a bit
Speaker 1: of a sounds familiar. It sounds familiar. But the way
Speaker 1: he practiced was something I think stood out to everyone.
Speaker 1: He seems like he's doing fine. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be a Manzel type deal. Yeah, Tom Pellicero had
Speaker 1: the column where he went he talked too with all
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, and Mayfield was the one that jumped off
Speaker 1: the page because for all the qualities that you think
Speaker 1: would make him troublesome, scouts freaking love him. So I
Speaker 1: would actually question anyone who does compare him to Manziel.
Speaker 1: I think there's enough nuance there that that Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: clearly a different kind of guy than Johnny Manziel. Mark
Speaker 1: Ian has it in his contract that you're not allowed
Speaker 1: to mention other NFL network politized will scrub. And finally,
Speaker 1: with the march, with the march looming, with March looming,
Speaker 1: and there's no way to take it back. There should
Speaker 1: be an edit button, Anderson, so I only stop you quickly.
Speaker 1: The tweet where I've had most retweeted in my life
Speaker 1: was on Watson tearing his A c L last year. Uh,
Speaker 1: it was a it was unfortunate in an awful moment,
Speaker 1: and a tweet that was sent around the world and
Speaker 1: it had a typo and I'm still annoying about it.
Speaker 1: I can't take it back if I have a different,
Speaker 1: like tweet nightmares SNAr scenario. The tweet that got most
Speaker 1: sent around the world that I sent was when the
Speaker 1: video Tom Brady's jersey getting stolen and I titled it
Speaker 1: Robert Craft handing out Victory cigars. That's the newsman to me. Alright. Finally,
Speaker 1: with Marge looming and some murkiness around hashtag Vikings QB
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater's contract, he is expected to be a free agent.
Speaker 1: Source to say Minnesota is not planning to assert that
Speaker 1: his contract tolls, and Bridgewater is proceeding as if he's
Speaker 1: a free agent. Red Mustang, It was great, wasn't it? Red? Sorry? Um? Okay,
Speaker 1: now want to leave the news to the professionals. I'm out.
Speaker 1: Um now let me say this. That's a prop by
Speaker 1: the way, please, um let me say this. Uh, this
Speaker 1: didn't have to be this way, like the Vikings could
Speaker 1: have said, Teddy, we're gonna fight you on this, but
Speaker 1: instead they they're letting him go essentially right in this
Speaker 1: and and you know, it would have been an argument.
Speaker 1: I don't know which way it would have gone, honestly,
Speaker 1: because the way it's written, it's if he's not healthy
Speaker 1: by the six game and he was on pup, he
Speaker 1: probably would have been able to pass the physical. Would
Speaker 1: have been arguments either way. But you know, I heard
Speaker 1: back in the seat during the mid season when this
Speaker 1: sort of became an issue, that they were not going
Speaker 1: to fight him on this. But it's amazing how long
Speaker 1: it's taken. And finally, Rich Spielman today admitted publicly to
Speaker 1: p f T I think that he was going to
Speaker 1: be a free agent, but it's just took forever. He said.
Speaker 1: It's ultimately up to the NFL. But that's what he expct.
Speaker 1: I'm sure that's true, but they are going to defer
Speaker 1: to the team. If the team is not fighting whatever,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a free agent. Um, I'm really curious
Speaker 1: where he goes. I would what do you think, what
Speaker 1: do you think happens with the Vikings while you're here? Uh?
Speaker 1: I think that they probably end up signing Kirk cousins
Speaker 1: to a lot of money, but probably not as much
Speaker 1: as the Jets are going to sign him to my
Speaker 1: guests on Bridgewater or offer offer, but that he would
Speaker 1: go to ultimately that he would would be amazing. If
Speaker 1: you had you'd say he landed Inta. That's my guess.
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, Minnesota, I think Arizona has
Speaker 1: a legit, very very real chance. UH really do a
Speaker 1: lot to like there, uh for Teddy, you know, if
Speaker 1: he can't get a starting job sort of handed to him,
Speaker 1: which it seems far fetched considering health wise. I think
Speaker 1: the Panthers are looking to upgrade at their backup quarterback spot.
Speaker 1: Um they got Norv Turner and Scott Turner who had
Speaker 1: him in Minnesota. Love Teddy. I could see him going
Speaker 1: there as a backup. M. Well there you go. I
Speaker 1: on fire. You did it, you came in here. I
Speaker 1: feel like you're leading the insider game this week. I
Speaker 1: feel like Jay Glazer retired and now it's really and
Speaker 1: locking for is like in the in the back and
Speaker 1: it's really a rap sheet versus schefter thing. It always
Speaker 1: has been, and this is so far. I feel like
Speaker 1: you're in the lead. I can't say anything like this
Speaker 1: because all does his jinx and everything. Then let me
Speaker 1: sound it. Can Ian Rappaport fall him at rap sheet
Speaker 1: and he's on NFL network constantly. Right now, it's Rappaport season. Ian,
Speaker 1: Thank you buddy, Thanks guys, big fish, big fish, rolling
Speaker 1: right along rap sheet out the door. Here it's a
Speaker 1: sweet thirty three b at Lucas Oil Stadium now sitting
Speaker 1: in that spot. Wow, hunka manny is Kevin Patrick coming
Speaker 1: at you? And Patra downgraded this seat? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think if anything, uh, just yeah, you fill it out,
Speaker 1: fill it out real nice and based on the time
Speaker 1: of year, late February heading into March. Famously, you bulk
Speaker 1: up big in the winter and then slim down for
Speaker 1: the swimsuits and you got a wedding coming up. Where's
Speaker 1: your body after? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I didn't bulk up
Speaker 1: as much this winter because I was trying to keep
Speaker 1: it thin for I don't what is the wedding by
Speaker 1: the way, May nine, same day as the one in
Speaker 1: England they stole our day? Do you do you struggle
Speaker 1: with people having, you know, such high expectations for when
Speaker 1: they do see your body that there's some level of underwhelmed.
Speaker 1: I've come to an understanding with it. I just like Dan,
Speaker 1: Dan does not believe in the the under promim I
Speaker 1: think I think most of the listeners understand Dan's ways. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. I mean I've always been impressed by your
Speaker 1: hot bod. You know that now? Kevin Patras here because
Speaker 1: keV was amongst the group of a t N heroes
Speaker 1: down on the floor for the press conferences, a bunch
Speaker 1: of gms and coaches spoke. So this will be the
Speaker 1: time for us now to share our takeaways from Wednesday
Speaker 1: press conferences at the old Indianapolis Convention Center. I think
Speaker 1: the big the big star, and someone feel free to
Speaker 1: jump in and disagree, but I think that John Gruden
Speaker 1: and his big comeback at the combine. He hadn't been
Speaker 1: been here in what fifteen years something like that? Was
Speaker 1: it that long? Something like that? Anyway, years ten to
Speaker 1: twenty years ago, John Gruden was a fixture here. Now
Speaker 1: he's back and it was like you've never left. In fact,
Speaker 1: I'll say that, but then also add a little polish
Speaker 1: to John Gruden after years on television. Uh, here's what
Speaker 1: he had to say. The thing that pick got picked
Speaker 1: up in a lot of places in the news was
Speaker 1: his feelings on analytics, which is very hot. Right now,
Speaker 1: you're here in all the hallways around the combine. Here's
Speaker 1: what Gruden had to say, and I'll try to throw
Speaker 1: the game back to you know it. Really as a broadcaster,
Speaker 1: I went around and observed every team, asked a lot
Speaker 1: of questions, took a look at the facilities, how they're
Speaker 1: doing business. Um, there's a stack of analytical data or data.
Speaker 1: However you want to say that word that people don't
Speaker 1: even know how to read it. It's one thing to
Speaker 1: have the data or data. It's another thing you know
Speaker 1: how to read a damn thing. Uh. So I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna rely on GPS s and all the modern technology.
Speaker 1: I will certainly have some people that are professional that
Speaker 1: can help me from that regard. But I still think
Speaker 1: doing things the old fashioned way, uh is a good way.
Speaker 1: And uh we're gonna try to lean lean a needle
Speaker 1: that way a little bit. Greg Is it crazy for
Speaker 1: me to think that's a little foreboding That talk from
Speaker 1: a guy that's been out of the game when people
Speaker 1: are wondering if he was out too long, and then
Speaker 1: he comes back and says, oh, the way people are
Speaker 1: doing it now take me back to I don't think
Speaker 1: it's that rare. He's just more open about it. And
Speaker 1: when he's talking about the GPS that he thought talking about,
Speaker 1: you know the data from the next gen stats where
Speaker 1: they put the GPS in the players actually talking about
Speaker 1: is now well, he's a terrible driver. Right is now available.
Speaker 1: I think there's a chunk of teams that are using
Speaker 1: it to their advantage, and there's plenty of teams like
Speaker 1: him and Regie Mackenzie I think as a GM is
Speaker 1: pretty on John Gruden's level that really aren't getting into it.
Speaker 1: But he also listen to Steve Wilkes and other new
Speaker 1: coaches that just say, you know that football is about
Speaker 1: running the ball. You know, we're not worried about throwing it.
Speaker 1: So it's like he Steve Wilkes a Southern accent. We'll
Speaker 1: get to Wilks in a second, because I had some
Speaker 1: takeaways from his opening pressers. Obviously the new Cardinals head coach,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I did, I mean did everybody else. Most
Speaker 1: of you guys saw the Grooden press conference. I think, uh,
Speaker 1: the other big takeaway West and you wrote it about
Speaker 1: it on the website Uh, First of all, he's he's
Speaker 1: all in on Marshawn Lynch, it sounds like, and he
Speaker 1: they expect him to be back, and he expects him
Speaker 1: to be part of the offense. But it was another
Speaker 1: player West that he said is going to lead the offense.
Speaker 1: He loves Zamari Cooper. He talked about we all think
Speaker 1: he's a great player. We even more we think he's
Speaker 1: a great person. And then he said, I'm gonna he's
Speaker 1: gonna be the headliner of my offense. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: the focal point of my offense. And it reminds me
Speaker 1: a little bit of of where Sean McVeigh was with
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley last year, where the talent is so obvious,
Speaker 1: but the season was so like maybe the most disappointed
Speaker 1: skill position player in the NFL for a guy who
Speaker 1: might have had some minor injuries but didn't have a
Speaker 1: major injury that would have caused him to play that poorly. Um,
Speaker 1: So it's on Gruden to come up with a scheme
Speaker 1: that takes advantage of a Maori Cooper and put him
Speaker 1: in position to succeed, because that talent is definitely there.
Speaker 1: Other thoughts, gentlemen, on anyone else. I like the I
Speaker 1: like the idea of possibly running into Grooden, you know,
Speaker 1: tonight out at the bars. He did tell the media
Speaker 1: that he's looking forward to seeing us, and he had
Speaker 1: a very early press conference, and based on his hair
Speaker 1: and kind of his eyes, I think he might have
Speaker 1: had a long night the night before. I didn't notice that,
Speaker 1: and obviously it's the the aging process. But he is
Speaker 1: a different John Gruden that he was ten to twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. He's that he had a free pass from
Speaker 1: his wife to do whatever haunted in Indianapolis. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: said he had the hot pass. I believe he does
Speaker 1: not look fifty four years old. Then he's not. He's
Speaker 1: he doesn't look twenty five anymore. But obviously he's not
Speaker 1: going to but he looked like a guy who's you know,
Speaker 1: he's back after being gone for long. I will say this,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like you guys have been
Speaker 1: more into the John Gruden experience in return than I
Speaker 1: have been. It's been on my radar heavily. Um. I
Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of potential for deep annoyance.
Speaker 1: But today today I felt really differently like if if
Speaker 1: you did if you took him out of today's proceedings.
Speaker 1: It would have been one of the Duller Combine Press
Speaker 1: conferences days we've ever experienced. He brought life. Here's the theory.
Speaker 1: Bruce arians was similar John Gruden set up for life.
Speaker 1: He's got like a ten year contract for the highest
Speaker 1: contract ever. You get to be a lot more truthful
Speaker 1: in what you tell the media when you have that
Speaker 1: much job secure. We'll find out if he's truthful. Because
Speaker 1: he talked about Crabtree, Bruce, Servant and Lynch as if
Speaker 1: they're all going to be stars, and many of them
Speaker 1: are cut in the next week or two, will know
Speaker 1: that he's full a B s, which he was completely
Speaker 1: full of B s as a coach in the first
Speaker 1: time around. He he talked about everyone like they were
Speaker 1: the greatest players ever. A couple of the Crabtree questions
Speaker 1: he made it seemed like he might not be back,
Speaker 1: and you guys should ask Reggie mckinziy about him, not me. Uh,
Speaker 1: Steve Wilks, since we did bring him up. He is
Speaker 1: on the opposite end of the spectrum on some of
Speaker 1: the new coach and obviously a lot of reason to
Speaker 1: be optimistic. But as he was talking, I couldn't help it.
Speaker 1: But notice what a tough spot the guy is. And
Speaker 1: and we we just heard Ian say that maybe the
Speaker 1: Cardinals would be a surprise player and make a hard
Speaker 1: run for Cousins. We'll see if that plays out. But
Speaker 1: even as he's talking, he's like, he's going to these
Speaker 1: platitudes or we're gonna run the football. We're gonna run
Speaker 1: the football, because he literally doesn't have a quarterback, and
Speaker 1: even a minute he said, oh, it's so amazing to
Speaker 1: have Liarry back and all that, but everybody else is
Speaker 1: a free agent, so he doesn't really have any weapons
Speaker 1: in the passing game other than a thirty four year
Speaker 1: old wide receiver and no quarterbacks. He's inheriting a tough situation,
Speaker 1: and you could sense that he emphasized several times this
Speaker 1: is a past happy league. But my philosophy as a
Speaker 1: head coach is established a run and everything starts up front.
Speaker 1: The last thing I want to hear if I was
Speaker 1: a Cardinals fan, and that that comes from his time
Speaker 1: with the Panthers, but it's also my one takeaway from
Speaker 1: today is that I listened to Vans Joseph say a
Speaker 1: similar thing in Denver. We want to run the ball
Speaker 1: and play defense. So two teams with quarterback needs and
Speaker 1: allegedly in the Kirk Cousins hunt, have come out and
Speaker 1: said we want to be a run the ball, play
Speaker 1: defense type of operation. Is that even attractive for a quarterback?
Speaker 1: I don't know. Well. I mean, my takeaway from going
Speaker 1: to John always presser was he seemed pretty confident that
Speaker 1: he's gonna get the quarterback he wants, which is Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: He was as relaxed as we've seen him in years
Speaker 1: at this press conference, and he was talking about that's
Speaker 1: how they only need one more one player, like, there's
Speaker 1: not this is not a rebuild. Were not rebuilding. He
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it. Uh So I took away that they're
Speaker 1: gonna make a huge run. He said he's got plenty
Speaker 1: of cap space to offer him. I can see him
Speaker 1: going out. He just seemed like a guy who knew
Speaker 1: who had eye on the ball and he's gonna offer
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins whatever it takes. Also said he'd bring back
Speaker 1: to Marius Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders Raps. She reported keep to
Speaker 1: leave could be out of there. He wouldn't. He wouldn't
Speaker 1: commit to to leave or c J. Anderson. He basically
Speaker 1: sounded like both could be on their way out. How
Speaker 1: about you mark somebody that jumped out to you. Well,
Speaker 1: I feel like the guy or the team, Rick Spielman
Speaker 1: for the Vikings, that was gonna obviously be pegged with
Speaker 1: endless Kirk Cousin. He's had to talk about four quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: the three quarterbacks he's letting go to market, and Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: And so, in a masterful bit of stagecraft, he opened
Speaker 1: his pressor with like a four or five minute preamble
Speaker 1: that dodged sort of all answers entirely, and then in
Speaker 1: the middle of it, after someone, you know, a couple
Speaker 1: of people tried to get a few qub questions, and
Speaker 1: he sort of said, where you've made no decisions to
Speaker 1: bury that right out of the right out of the gate.
Speaker 1: Someone and I'm pretty sure it was a Vikings plant,
Speaker 1: although the Vikings probably don't agree with that assessment, asked
Speaker 1: this bizarre question about Spielman's son in Nebraska, and it
Speaker 1: went on for another three to four minutes winding long answer.
Speaker 1: I thought this was so skillful. You wiped out nine
Speaker 1: minutes of your fifteen minute allotted time to answer questions
Speaker 1: about nothing. It was like his brother in law, Ted Becker,
Speaker 1: he's an impossible spot because he is, but because he's
Speaker 1: uniquely has three free agent quarterbacks that he's meeting with
Speaker 1: their agents this week. But everyone watching the press conference
Speaker 1: knows that he wants another quarterback more. Um, also a
Speaker 1: little a little news, not a ton of like big news.
Speaker 1: Every once in a while when we come to these things,
Speaker 1: there's some legitimate news like when Greg ended Steve Smith's
Speaker 1: panther's career that really been built up, that was notable.
Speaker 1: But Tyrod Taylor, when Brandon, being the Bill's GM spoke, uh,
Speaker 1: Tyrod Teller was obviously that's a hot topic around the Bills.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna stay or go? Most people think he'll
Speaker 1: be going elsewhere. But Brandon Bean at least is playing
Speaker 1: a little poker. Here's what Brenda Bean had to say
Speaker 1: about Tyrod Taylor's future in Buffalo. Well, Tyrod's on our roster,
Speaker 1: uh right now, and that's the plan. And um, we're
Speaker 1: just taking it day by day. And and like every position,
Speaker 1: we're we're trying to get better everywhere, and so we're
Speaker 1: looking you know, at every position including quarterback and uh.
Speaker 1: But Tyrod did a lot of good things for us,
Speaker 1: so I'm not really worried about the bonus. I see
Speaker 1: him on our roster right now, and um, unless something changes,
Speaker 1: you know, he'll be here until you know. Through that
Speaker 1: part translate PATCHA, Um, we're gonna keep him in our
Speaker 1: back pocket until we find something better. I mean. Going
Speaker 1: to both Beans and McDermott's pressor, there wasn't a lot
Speaker 1: of praise for Tyrod Taylor. They both said, yeah, he
Speaker 1: did some good things, said they won't cut him though.
Speaker 1: That's very definitive, right, but they won't cut him until
Speaker 1: they find a better marriage, until they find someone to
Speaker 1: take the ring off his feeling put it on her.
Speaker 1: Here's another translation. There is no more tedious output from
Speaker 1: a team, any team, towards any human being than the
Speaker 1: towards Tyrod Taylor. Going on year five at this point,
Speaker 1: it is the most exhausting storyline, and it is endless.
Speaker 1: It would be tiring, especially if they really do bring
Speaker 1: him back. And I think there's a chance that they do.
Speaker 1: That is that they don't wind up finding anything better
Speaker 1: and they're just like, all right, I think that's that's
Speaker 1: what this is about. This is about, like we think
Speaker 1: he's better than the case kingdoms of the world. So
Speaker 1: we already got him under contract, so we're we're willing
Speaker 1: to eat that six million if we can find somebody better.
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor is the Marvin Lewis of quarterbacks. You think
Speaker 1: he's gone, but the Bengals can't find anybody better. The
Speaker 1: Bills can't find anybody better. They just keep hanging on. Greg.
Speaker 1: You you were all over the place as usual. I was.
Speaker 1: I found it very interesting how Steve Kim answered a
Speaker 1: question about about Honey Badger that the Cardinals general manager,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to ask him that, particularly because Matthew
Speaker 1: had a tweet yesterday which sounded like a subtweet or
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, but just a vague
Speaker 1: thing where he said, it's a gamble and I'm taking
Speaker 1: all bets. If I lose, I vow to make it
Speaker 1: all back. He wrote that yesterday. I read that, and
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought he and his agents will not
Speaker 1: renegotiate his contract because that's the belief of what could
Speaker 1: happen in Arizona. He's doing nineteen million guaranteed if they
Speaker 1: picked up a bonus, and when when Kim was asked
Speaker 1: about it today, he was very noncommittal about Matthew's future.
Speaker 1: He called Buddha baker Uh a budding star, a future
Speaker 1: star who plays a similar position to Matthew. And he
Speaker 1: basically said, that's one of those guys that were evaluating.
Speaker 1: Imagine two years them saying, oh, that's just a guy
Speaker 1: we're evaluating about Honey Badger. They gave him a five
Speaker 1: year contract after he tore his a c L and
Speaker 1: so he's in a different place right now. And I
Speaker 1: asked West, where would you put him on the top
Speaker 1: one O one, because I think I'm I'm thinking in
Speaker 1: terms of Honey Badger's tweets after this news came out,
Speaker 1: because he retweeted what I said and he just said
Speaker 1: it's a business decision. Then he went on and on
Speaker 1: and about it that I've been doubted my whole He
Speaker 1: quote retweeted Greg's tweet, right, he did that, and then
Speaker 1: he kept going on about you know, I've been doubted
Speaker 1: my whole life. This is yeah, I'm used to this.
Speaker 1: He's retwee Michael Thomas saying he should come to the Saints,
Speaker 1: and I'm starting to think he's getting cut. Sounds like
Speaker 1: he's mad and West says he's gonna put him at
Speaker 1: number six and the one oh one. When that sounds
Speaker 1: about right, I think it's a good bet he could
Speaker 1: make a lot of money as a free agent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about a guy who was two years ago
Speaker 1: in the defensive Player of the Year conversation, and it
Speaker 1: took him a while, like it did the first time.
Speaker 1: He tore his a c L to get back there.
Speaker 1: But I thought in the last month of the season
Speaker 1: he played at a really high level. I'd rather have
Speaker 1: him than a guy like Sheldon Richardson. That's some real
Speaker 1: sex appeal to the top one oh one. Get a
Speaker 1: little honey badger in there. Yummy, yummy, hey um, Speaking
Speaker 1: of sex appeal, I'm a big Matt Patricia fan. You
Speaker 1: know I've already named him. He's the number one coach
Speaker 1: in the Bear community. I find him to be uh
Speaker 1: an excellent um uh looking man on some level because
Speaker 1: he's so interesting. Now, do you consider yourself an honorary
Speaker 1: member of the Bearer community community to bear qualities? Let's
Speaker 1: move on. Um, Now here's the question. What are we
Speaker 1: talking about here? Alright, Matt Patricia. I really like the
Speaker 1: way he came off in his press conference. He is
Speaker 1: a dude. He's a regular dude. He's a perfect guy,
Speaker 1: Patrick for Detroit, He's a perfect fit. Especially Jim calledwell,
Speaker 1: you know, God bless Jim called well, did he land
Speaker 1: on his feet somewhere? I don't know, but he's filthy rich.
Speaker 1: There's nothing, there's nothing about Jim Caldwell to get the
Speaker 1: fan base excited. And I'm not saying Matt Patricia is
Speaker 1: gonna like get you jumping up and down, but he
Speaker 1: is such, like clearly like a lunch pale guy. And
Speaker 1: you would think that coming out of the Belichick regime
Speaker 1: and the shots you saw on the sideline where he
Speaker 1: would have that big, bushy beard in those crazy intense eyes,
Speaker 1: that he would be somebody from that machine and someone
Speaker 1: with no personality. But he just came off as a
Speaker 1: guy that you could talk to, that would be able
Speaker 1: to communicate with his players, Uh, that would have a
Speaker 1: good relationship with the media. I'm not saying the Lions
Speaker 1: are gonna surge this year into the NFC like title game,
Speaker 1: but I really think they got a guy that they
Speaker 1: could build around with you. I think the Lions in Patrick,
Speaker 1: you've suffered with Detroit for a long time. I've often
Speaker 1: found them to be one of the dullest teams, and
Speaker 1: they have a new energy around them with Matt Patricia
Speaker 1: and in Chicago, you go from John Fox, who this
Speaker 1: podcast was not super high on, to say the least,
Speaker 1: to Matt Neeggie, who I think was also did a
Speaker 1: good job today. It wasn't information rich, but he is
Speaker 1: another good personality. The NFC North has a whole different
Speaker 1: feel and it's a long time coming. Matt Patricia also
Speaker 1: and Patrick. Let me know what this bothers you? Um,
Speaker 1: I noticed like a logo on the breast of his
Speaker 1: T shirt and I was like, why does that ring
Speaker 1: a bell? And I was like, is that bon Jovial logo?
Speaker 1: So I typed bon Jovial logo into my phone and
Speaker 1: sure enough, he went to his presser with a bon
Speaker 1: Jovi T shirt. I wonder if Belchia gave it to him.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was just gonna say it doesn't
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me because it seems like something that he
Speaker 1: probably got for free. Is like, sure, I'll wear this
Speaker 1: to the present. He went to and he went to
Speaker 1: the concert and had a good time to a little
Speaker 1: like living on a prayer. So you're a guy, you're
Speaker 1: all in. I'm all in. I think he's the kind
Speaker 1: of guy he's very smart and that comes across he's
Speaker 1: not as um. He doesn't keep as much to himself
Speaker 1: as I thought, and he's and when he does, he
Speaker 1: does it for moosely, like talks around it as whereas
Speaker 1: Bell Belichick is more gruff with it. Um. And he's,
Speaker 1: like Dan said, he's the kind of guy you could
Speaker 1: want to grab a beer with. Yeah, you know. And
Speaker 1: I feel like the pencil in the ear thing is
Speaker 1: a bit now and he's like he like, tell us,
Speaker 1: body watch this. I'll put his pencil in my ear
Speaker 1: and they'll all it was remarkably sharpened to like, it's
Speaker 1: clear that he is making that a thing. And I
Speaker 1: appreciate there's thousands of fans in Detroit wearing pencils during
Speaker 1: is uh. Matt Patricia rank on your new Coaches charisma rankings,
Speaker 1: which I believe is. I think it's pretty clear, yes,
Speaker 1: pronoun good pronoun usage there or not using pronouns um,
Speaker 1: he is up there in in the charisma rankings. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna probably say Gruden even though he's an old new coach.
Speaker 1: Uh just own the room and he had the biggest
Speaker 1: crowd I can remember for coaches left Sherman Sherman and
Speaker 1: bring a lot of energy. I actually sat in on
Speaker 1: all the New Press New coaches conferences, and yes, I
Speaker 1: would say that Patricia's right there behind Gruden number two.
Speaker 1: How they came across one thing on Naggie just to
Speaker 1: wrap that one up. I think if Bears fans are
Speaker 1: looking for something, that's gonna make him a lot different
Speaker 1: than John Fox. He was asked not for his whole philosophy,
Speaker 1: but how he felt about Doug Peterson and going for
Speaker 1: fourth downs aggressively. He smiled really wide and said, I
Speaker 1: like it. I like it. I'm not jogging around. I've
Speaker 1: heard the word in like hallways at Shula's. I keep
Speaker 1: on hearing analytics. Maybe it's in my head. I feel
Speaker 1: like everyone's taught. Maybe it's like really going nuts. Now
Speaker 1: is this just in my head? Like analytics never been
Speaker 1: Because when I think of going for the fourth down,
Speaker 1: I think about the analytics say that that's what you do,
Speaker 1: and that's what the Eagles did. I think it's a thing.
Speaker 1: I think. I think all of these coaches have an
Speaker 1: analytics guy in their headset for situational football, but no
Speaker 1: one has the stones or the onions of Doug Peterson.
Speaker 1: How are you? Rosemand was asked about Doug Peterson's balls
Speaker 1: today and he said they were tremendous balls. Excellent. We
Speaker 1: actually we were at a bar last night and there
Speaker 1: was an entire analytics meet up, just a bunch of
Speaker 1: analytics dudes with Cynthia Freeland, so like, maybe that's why,
Speaker 1: because they literally are everywhere now. We were also at
Speaker 1: a bar and we met Dave Gettleman, and what a
Speaker 1: wonderful guy. Honestly, he shot up my power. He already
Speaker 1: was high in the power rankings. But he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: your dad's a Giants fan like you. Sounded kind of
Speaker 1: like cut from the Keith Hands household a little bit. Oh.
Speaker 1: I could totally see that we were leaving a bar
Speaker 1: right at closing time. Ka Tam Posty was there as well,
Speaker 1: Sean Sullivan and um. As we're walking out, I turned around.
Speaker 1: Is this this happens? Sometimes you lose Mark? He doesn't
Speaker 1: immediately come out in terms up. Mark makes a bee
Speaker 1: line and I look back and I see him stick
Speaker 1: his hand out and say to Dave, Dave Gentleman, just
Speaker 1: want to shake the head of one of the greatest
Speaker 1: gems of all time. Well he I told him, because
Speaker 1: I wouldn't done. But just quite an honor for the
Speaker 1: man that's never I wouldn't be here if my dad
Speaker 1: was not a huge Giants fan and a football fan
Speaker 1: growing up. And I just liked that he was brought
Speaker 1: honor back to that team. One of the greats of
Speaker 1: all time. I think he I think he is one
Speaker 1: of the reason and one of the great personnel men,
Speaker 1: and he will continue to show reason like I brought
Speaker 1: to Lombardi trophies. What honor did I take from the season?
Speaker 1: Maybe Gettleman was the force behind Jerry Reeves. He was
Speaker 1: working under him at the time. Um possible. All right,
Speaker 1: we we got to move on. Um. But I say
Speaker 1: one quick, quick excuse me? Combine set up people like
Speaker 1: whatever you planned to serve for lunch today was an outrage.
Speaker 1: It was some of the shakiest sandwiches. I couldn't even
Speaker 1: eat them because it's like filled with what was in
Speaker 1: what was in the meat. Well, you're all not feeling
Speaker 1: well for like two hours after, So don't shake your head. Greg,
Speaker 1: all Right, before we go. Before we go, First of all,
Speaker 1: some breaking news. I don't want to be on your
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Speaker 1: one of the leading shadowy lead figures in the business.
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Speaker 1: was reached this week. Wow, things getting done at the Combine. Now.
Speaker 1: It just occouraged to me that all the people that
Speaker 1: are complaining on Twitter, how come we're not on Spotify.
Speaker 1: We don't listen to the show anymore. They're not getting
Speaker 1: this announcement. But we will also send it out via
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Speaker 1: things are looking good. I mean, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: as big news as the Brown's Wide Receiver news. I
Speaker 1: broke what Larry Pinkerton. Um, okay, we will be back
Speaker 1: tomorrow Thursday. There are more press conferences. Uh, maybe we'll
Speaker 1: do some combine talk. We'll figure it out. But thank
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