Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast, always Triple Sources. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansis and I'm joined by Room Failed
Speaker 1: with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's
Speaker 1: up boys? Happy Monday, everybody, Happy Monday. And to you,
Speaker 1: you know do you? Classic rock fans are probably aware
Speaker 1: of this, are music fans. John Lennon's Lost Weekend. It's
Speaker 1: when he was estranged from Yoko, and I think a
Speaker 1: lot of drug use was involved and the weekend was
Speaker 1: kind of a big deal in his growth as a man.
Speaker 1: According to John Lennon, Rest in Peace. I had a
Speaker 1: similar lost weekend this weekend, but nothing exciting, no heroin,
Speaker 1: no Yoko figure involved, no growth as a man, no
Speaker 1: growth as a man at all. Just I don't remember
Speaker 1: anything about the weekend and it's gone, and I'm just
Speaker 1: starting to accept that this is my life and it
Speaker 1: was to to like pleasant, adventurous excess. I feel you.
Speaker 1: On the some of these weekends were suddenly it's it's
Speaker 1: it's not just Sunday night, it's Monday morning at four
Speaker 1: fifty am, and like you can feel a week staring
Speaker 1: down at you. You're three days older and you've got
Speaker 1: nothing to show for nothing. How was your weekend? Guys?
Speaker 1: That was good. I was meant to hang out with
Speaker 1: Dan on St. Patrick's daying around four pm. I texted
Speaker 1: and said, it's not happening. It wasn't happening on my
Speaker 1: wasn't happening. It just wasn't gonna happen. And that was it.
Speaker 1: And then Sunday happened yesterday. Don't barely remember Sunday. The
Speaker 1: last weekend inertia is I barely remember anything. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a nice way to go through life. What's gonna
Speaker 1: happen when you actually start getting old, Greg, and you
Speaker 1: know the ravages of time, Uh start to zap your
Speaker 1: mind a little bit and your memory gets let I'm
Speaker 1: a little worried about that. I think it's it's I
Speaker 1: were already there. Yeah, we're there. I view it more
Speaker 1: as like a lifestyle choice. There are certain things I
Speaker 1: choose to mark as meaningful. I'll keep that, but pretty
Speaker 1: much everything out. So you're in a you're like a
Speaker 1: memory elitist. Maybe so. I mean like I was having
Speaker 1: a good time this weekend. I was enjoying it, you know,
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of time with the kids
Speaker 1: and stuff. But yeah, it's just gone good stuff, good stuff, alright,
Speaker 1: good good chat guys on the week and uh, let's
Speaker 1: talk about football now, because a lot to talk about. Uh.
Speaker 1: We're now just hitting like the week mark since the
Speaker 1: legal tampering period began, so free agency. Free agency has
Speaker 1: definitely settled down, but there are still some chips falling
Speaker 1: into place. So we're gonna get caught up. Uh since
Speaker 1: the last time we spoke to you, which was uh
Speaker 1: or recorded for you, which was Friday morning. Uh, So
Speaker 1: we will get into it, and we'll start with big
Speaker 1: talk at the top of the draft board around Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: my favorite team, that New York Jets. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get into it. Alright. So the big news over the weekend,
Speaker 1: and it was on St. Patrick's Day that the Jets
Speaker 1: announced that they had acquired the number three overall pick
Speaker 1: in the draft with the Indianapolis Cults. The Jets and
Speaker 1: their sixth overall pick, the thirty seventh overall pick, the
Speaker 1: forty ninth overall picks, so both their second round picks
Speaker 1: as well as a second rounder in twenty nineteen to
Speaker 1: the Cults. Uh So the Jets move up, get into
Speaker 1: prime quarterback real estate. Maybe not as high up Mark
Speaker 1: as they wanted to because they guess placed the phone
Speaker 1: call to the Cleveland Browns. They're never gonna do business
Speaker 1: with the New York Giants. That is a relationship fraught
Speaker 1: with pitfalls throughout the years. Uh so they move up
Speaker 1: to three box out the bills. I'm real happy as
Speaker 1: a Jets ven your thoughts on this move, Mark, I
Speaker 1: think it's we're seeing more and more of these trades
Speaker 1: where I guess you want to come out and say, oh,
Speaker 1: one team a fleeced team B and it's evident to everyone.
Speaker 1: I think this is a deal where the Jets win
Speaker 1: because according to what we're hearing from the Jets, they're
Speaker 1: comfortable with in theory getting the third quarterback on the
Speaker 1: board or their board, that they would be okay with that.
Speaker 1: And and the Colts, who I incorrectly pained on Friday
Speaker 1: for being too inactive, it really they want to build
Speaker 1: through the draft and this allows Chris ball Or to
Speaker 1: do exactly that. So you can pick a winner in this,
Speaker 1: but for me, both teams got what they needed. The
Speaker 1: Jets have needed a quarterback forever, and they have a
Speaker 1: chance to get one. This is a fascinating trade on
Speaker 1: so many levels. They put the Bills and Checkmates six
Speaker 1: weeks before the draft. It turns the giants number two
Speaker 1: pick into one of the most interesting pick scenarios we've
Speaker 1: ever seen. And I've never seen a trade like this
Speaker 1: where a team gives up what they gave up nearly
Speaker 1: two bucks on the dollar according to Chase Steward of
Speaker 1: Pro Football Reference, compared to some other trades like Golf
Speaker 1: and Wentz that were much less on the dollar, And
Speaker 1: they don't have a specific target in mind. You could
Speaker 1: trade up on some level, but you can't because the
Speaker 1: right you can only say that one of these three
Speaker 1: quarterbacks I'm fine with or okay with that, But they
Speaker 1: don't have an r G three, a Golf or a
Speaker 1: Wentz that specifically trading or or in theory they love
Speaker 1: let's say Rosen and Mayfield, like those are their top
Speaker 1: two guys, and they just feel really good and they
Speaker 1: could be wrong that one of those two will be
Speaker 1: there at three. It's it makes sense. I agree with
Speaker 1: everything both of you guys said. The thing I'd be
Speaker 1: worried about is the idea that ultimately all of these
Speaker 1: moves are being made by the Jets and a general
Speaker 1: manager who I'm not confident is going to be there
Speaker 1: a year from now. And do the Jets avoid getting
Speaker 1: into the same cycle that they've been in over and
Speaker 1: over and over where different people are drafting players for
Speaker 1: different parts of the franchise, Because will the Jets have
Speaker 1: enough patients to withstand another three and thirteen, four and
Speaker 1: twelve season and not change their general manager who just
Speaker 1: spent a ton of money on mid level free agent
Speaker 1: players and now is making all of these draft picks.
Speaker 1: And it's a lot of draft picks. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's four players for one, so you're you're trading four
Speaker 1: players for one and including the number six overall pick
Speaker 1: in this draft and three pretty high level picks. It's
Speaker 1: virtually no risk, amazing move for the Colts, and it
Speaker 1: all works out for the Jets if they pick the
Speaker 1: right quarterback. But the trick is, it's not just about
Speaker 1: picking the right quarterback. It's providing that quarterback with enough
Speaker 1: structure from ownership to coach to general manager to the
Speaker 1: players and having a plan to make that quarterback look good.
Speaker 1: And if if they're five and eleven years now, if
Speaker 1: they're five and eleven a year from now and they
Speaker 1: fire all that, then it's a that's a it's a
Speaker 1: dumb you're speaking, You're speaking a lot of sense, But
Speaker 1: it's also it's one step of the time here. And
Speaker 1: I think that they have some pieces in place on
Speaker 1: a roster that's not ready for the playoffs. But I
Speaker 1: don't think it's as bad as last year, certainly not
Speaker 1: when they had a lot of people are predicting Ode sixteen.
Speaker 1: So I think there are some pieces there. I think
Speaker 1: that if you get the quarterback and he shows flashes
Speaker 1: um ability to play and be a franchise guy, which
Speaker 1: it has to be too if you're gonna trade up
Speaker 1: this high and give up this much, if you get
Speaker 1: that guy in place, then I think mccagnut buys time.
Speaker 1: The only way it doesn't work out is if they
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback that completely bombs in year one, like
Speaker 1: Deshaun Kaiser, which there was a lot of factors in
Speaker 1: that in that but even he was a second rounder.
Speaker 1: So it's like they if they can just get a
Speaker 1: guy that flashes, I think it buys mccagnet sometime. Uh
Speaker 1: and and it should because I think he's had a
Speaker 1: good offseason after the Kirk. I think that's tough to
Speaker 1: evalue at a rookie quarterback. Of that, look at Jared
Speaker 1: goffin his rookie season. There's plenty of them. But then,
Speaker 1: what do you do not swing for the Jets? I
Speaker 1: think if anything correctly assessed that there was a possibility
Speaker 1: that if they stayed where they were at six, that
Speaker 1: not only the third quarterback wouldn't come to them, that
Speaker 1: maybe four or five could go, and then you'd be
Speaker 1: stuck could not right, you'd be stuck with Josh McCown
Speaker 1: and a wait and see Ted A Bridgewater. That's how
Speaker 1: you get fired. If this works, Mike mccagnet could be
Speaker 1: there for the next ten, right, but he would also
Speaker 1: be four years into I guess the thing which is
Speaker 1: worth raising is he struggled drafting quarterbacks so far. It's
Speaker 1: been much lower picks, but whether in Houston or New York,
Speaker 1: and he hasn't really at this point shown anything for
Speaker 1: his three years running the Jets for this process, right,
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think they sort of have
Speaker 1: to buy into mccagnet and bowls again long term, which
Speaker 1: is a crazy It's a crazy spot because usually you
Speaker 1: do want to see progress after two, definitely three years
Speaker 1: of a run, and they haven't shown it relevant to
Speaker 1: the number six overall pick. Since Joe Flacco was selected
Speaker 1: number eighteen overall in two thousand and eight, quarterbacks have
Speaker 1: been drafted in the first round. Tim Tebow is the
Speaker 1: only one from pick six to thirty two who's won
Speaker 1: of a playoff game in the past decade. And I
Speaker 1: thought that the Bills, Um, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I understand that the Bills were aggressive to move up
Speaker 1: to twelve, but I thought they telegraphed this a little
Speaker 1: too much, too much and gave mccagnet if you needed
Speaker 1: any more, uh, window to no, you need to make
Speaker 1: this move before the Bills do. And maybe the Bills
Speaker 1: do get to number two and then they're okay as well.
Speaker 1: But I think that I think with Cagnet did what
Speaker 1: Buffalo didn't, which was sees the moment there. And now
Speaker 1: it leaves the Bills in a super desperate spot because they,
Speaker 1: yes they have. Like West said, it's hard harder to
Speaker 1: find a true difference maker later in the first round,
Speaker 1: and you have in the Bills. They have two first
Speaker 1: round picks, but then a j mccarrott, and which is
Speaker 1: no one's example of a guy you want to lead
Speaker 1: the franchise and Nate Peterman so they they are almost
Speaker 1: in a desperate ste If I'm a Giants fan or
Speaker 1: if I'm in the Giants organization, I'm thinking really hard
Speaker 1: what i want to do here. If I'm if I
Speaker 1: do I want to stay in the pick or move.
Speaker 1: I feel the same way about the Colts, who now
Speaker 1: we're in six. But if you wanna see how the
Speaker 1: draft plays out and maybe spin that back with the
Speaker 1: Bills if they have someone they like, you could really
Speaker 1: clean up off this pick. You've already done it. Yets
Speaker 1: the cults traight up trade back again if someone's there
Speaker 1: on the draft. I'm just and the culture still in
Speaker 1: a very goods. Speller told Peter King that they would
Speaker 1: be opened. I mean, of course you'd be open to
Speaker 1: it. It It depends what comes your way. But that's how
Speaker 1: you play the draft. If you're the Hey they want
Speaker 1: to avoid free agency and they want to stockpile and
Speaker 1: stacked one draft after the next for three years, that
Speaker 1: that's how that's build. That's a safer and generally how
Speaker 1: you win doesn't mean it always works. Certainly, the Browns
Speaker 1: haven't used the picks and the Carson Wentz trade particularly well.
Speaker 1: So it all depends on Again, I think the structure
Speaker 1: sort of that you have in place. Do you have
Speaker 1: an offensive philosophy that that can groom a great young
Speaker 1: quarterback in New York that the Colts thing is safer.
Speaker 1: I do find it interesting that I think people around
Speaker 1: the league, and you saw in the Peter King article,
Speaker 1: and I've heard other things. I don't know if everyone
Speaker 1: really buys the whole Giants aren't taking a quarterback thing
Speaker 1: at two that that that is very much up in
Speaker 1: the air, whether they're going to take specially now, well,
Speaker 1: why would you not trade to six if you weren't
Speaker 1: going to take a quarterback? I mean outside of Sequon Barkley,
Speaker 1: and if you were that fascinated with him, you can
Speaker 1: get almost the best outside of the quarterback position player available.
Speaker 1: It's six, right, they're gonna get They're gonna get Chubb,
Speaker 1: or they're gonna get Barkley or there. It's a top
Speaker 1: pick for the Colts. You have to surmise. I know
Speaker 1: the Jets and Giants don't do business, but it would
Speaker 1: be malpractice if Mike mcagnet didn't make that call to
Speaker 1: the Giants. I mean it would be. It hasn't been
Speaker 1: reported yet. It has been with the Browns, but it
Speaker 1: would be absolutely insanely going out of your way to
Speaker 1: do your job poorly if you didn't see if the
Speaker 1: Giants would take this offer. And they've never traded before
Speaker 1: and they never will, right but they But of course
Speaker 1: you would to see if the Giants to do it.
Speaker 1: I don't, we don't know. Probably did, but I'm just
Speaker 1: they should be fired if they's a serious reason why
Speaker 1: this trade with the Giants would never happen, because the
Speaker 1: Jets and Giants don't do business together. Dave get him,
Speaker 1: and seems like of the thirty two gms, the least
Speaker 1: likely want to care about what's on the back page
Speaker 1: of the New York Post or any other newspaper. But
Speaker 1: if the Jets stay at three get the quarterback of
Speaker 1: the future, it turns out to be great. And the
Speaker 1: Giants bypass a quarterback eli many successor don't go quarterback,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get absolutely destroyed. And even more still because
Speaker 1: it's the Jets. So that's how the Jets can stick.
Speaker 1: I think the Giants. The Giants are boxed in, I
Speaker 1: think in that sense with the quarterback position, because even
Speaker 1: if Gettleman and this regime, like Sea Lion, thinks he
Speaker 1: has a couple of years left, which the jury is
Speaker 1: obviously out on that you can't risk. What if the
Speaker 1: Giants are four and six he just came back. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: they just they've reached the verdict, right. What if they're
Speaker 1: four and six on Halloween and they didn't draft the
Speaker 1: quarterback and Sam Rosen has twenty touchdowns for the Jets
Speaker 1: like that with a Fox analyst, Sam Rosen suddenly played
Speaker 1: for the Debts. Um. I think that in that situation,
Speaker 1: the Giants would get killed. And the Giants are smart organization.
Speaker 1: I don't think they'll ever go down that road. I
Speaker 1: mean that Leman's played it well so far. He's got
Speaker 1: everybody thinking he could take a quarterback or se Kwon Barkley,
Speaker 1: and he wants to train box Cleveland into taking a
Speaker 1: quarterback at one or risking incredible pr fallout as well,
Speaker 1: because they can't wait till four now to see what happens. No,
Speaker 1: because yeah, even if they wait, never could I don't
Speaker 1: think I think they never quarterback all along. But if
Speaker 1: they wanted to get cute and you found out someone
Speaker 1: else really wanted to play a you know, Chub or
Speaker 1: Sequon Barkley at two or three, you could maybe wait
Speaker 1: till four of your quarterback. They could deal with that
Speaker 1: luxury now because of what the Jets and I think.
Speaker 1: I think, and this is not something that's unconsidered with
Speaker 1: the Jets or in New York in general. I think
Speaker 1: since the Johnson family has taken over this franchise, is
Speaker 1: they can sell this like this gets the Jets fans
Speaker 1: excited at a point at the lowest point possible in
Speaker 1: terms of fans, in terms of buying tickets, in terms
Speaker 1: of excitement about the franchise, and it's like they had
Speaker 1: to sort of do this to re engage their fan
Speaker 1: But I'm not saying that's a good reason to make decisions,
Speaker 1: but I think it goes into the decisions. It's also
Speaker 1: shows how one side of the relationship is between a
Speaker 1: fan and a team, because as a fan, you have
Speaker 1: no choice but to give yourself over to the team
Speaker 1: and the guys who are stewarts. Mike mccagnet, he's the
Speaker 1: steward of your fandom. He and Todd Bulls they're they're
Speaker 1: charged with basically a public trust, but they're what they're
Speaker 1: doing is saving their jobs, like all other moves are
Speaker 1: intended to save their job, not to not to reward
Speaker 1: your fandom. I do wonder what's what's the difference, And
Speaker 1: there's no way to know of Woody Johnson being in
Speaker 1: the UK, but I think that probably makes the different
Speaker 1: there are there's Chris Johnson as his brother, it's in
Speaker 1: charge of things, and from the reports that you hear,
Speaker 1: Chris Johnson has been more open, more communicative with the team.
Speaker 1: It's been a better culture around there. Obviously it's a
Speaker 1: short term thing with Woody in the working for for Trump,
Speaker 1: but we'll see how it all plays out. You brought
Speaker 1: up the fans um uh one thing on on this.
Speaker 1: Albert Breer reported on this that wood he was he
Speaker 1: was on board with this decision before he left, that
Speaker 1: they had talked about this quarterback plan a year ago
Speaker 1: and he was already on board with do whatever you
Speaker 1: can to get it. He knows what they've been missing
Speaker 1: for his entire tenure there, and mcagnet needs some hits.
Speaker 1: These are his top five paid players on the team.
Speaker 1: Account is number one, amazingly only ten million. Jermaine Johnson,
Speaker 1: good player, Kelvin Beach and Buster Screen and Brian Winters.
Speaker 1: I mean those are your top five page debts. They
Speaker 1: need to bring in big time talent. And he the quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: the two quarterback with it's not really petty as much,
Speaker 1: but obviously Hackenburg stick with him and deservedly so, so
Speaker 1: he gets one more shot to get a quarterback, uh,
Speaker 1: and make it work. And what we can say, well,
Speaker 1: you you described you opened the show by describing yourself
Speaker 1: as having a lost weekend that went from A to
Speaker 1: Z with no human memory your team in the middle
Speaker 1: of this weekend. I did it not spice it up
Speaker 1: a little bit? You're Saturday or Sunday woke up. I
Speaker 1: woke up to that. So that was very good and
Speaker 1: I think it's good too. Um, we haven't heard from
Speaker 1: a while. I wanted to see how Keith Hands has
Speaker 1: thought about the Jets the first week of free agency
Speaker 1: about this trade, and I asked him, I want a
Speaker 1: report card time with Keith Hands. His name is Keith out. Well,
Speaker 1: you go to I think the Jeffs and made a
Speaker 1: good trade to move up in the end draft position. Uh.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for Donald to be their top picks as
Speaker 1: the best scenario, but I think Rosen would be very
Speaker 1: good as well because he's a drop back pasture from
Speaker 1: pro style offense. UM. I'm also happy with the fact
Speaker 1: that they missed out on the Cousins deal. I think
Speaker 1: that that's the basketball Cousins and the Jets and goodbye
Speaker 1: to uh both Teddy and hacked all right, Uh, that's
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be missed. I think also as far
Speaker 1: as the the move that mechanical, it was pretty good. Uh.
Speaker 1: The signing of McGown and Bridgewater, Claire one and Avery
Speaker 1: Willenson has also been a good to pick up. So
Speaker 1: my grade so far is a B plus, but they
Speaker 1: need an eight plus with QB he makes this a successful.
Speaker 1: Uh season. You have to you have to remember, thank you, Dad.
Speaker 1: You have to remember how hopeless last offseason was. So
Speaker 1: Jet fans are pumped right now and maybe mcadney's not
Speaker 1: the answer. Greg. I don't think any Jets fan is
Speaker 1: all the way in on him because of what happened
Speaker 1: with Hackenburg mostly, but I like what they've done this
Speaker 1: past week and I'm really excited for the draft. So
Speaker 1: they're doing their job. As an organization. At least right now,
Speaker 1: fans have hope and they're excited for the future. I
Speaker 1: like how Keith delivered. He knows that you you want
Speaker 1: great to get clicks, you gotta you gotta hand out grade.
Speaker 1: That's what the that's what the customer wants, and he's
Speaker 1: doing it. By the way, Brand's Bills General manager Brandon
Speaker 1: Being told Peter King he's quote not ready to move
Speaker 1: up in the draft for a quarterback. His quote to King,
Speaker 1: I haven't spent enough time to have an opinion about
Speaker 1: any of them yet. Honestly, well, now he doesn't know
Speaker 1: where to move up to. I think that it became
Speaker 1: a lot trickier for him. That's interesting because it's such
Speaker 1: a different It's the inverse of the Jets approach. The
Speaker 1: Jets traded up without a specific target in mind when
Speaker 1: they haven't had a chance to sit down and meet
Speaker 1: with any of these guys, and the Bill's GM has
Speaker 1: basically said, I want as much data as possible. I
Speaker 1: want to meet with these guys. I want to know
Speaker 1: who I'm trading up for. It's the exactly at the
Speaker 1: combine for minutes, not like not spending a whole day
Speaker 1: with him, putting them up on the blackboard, seeing what
Speaker 1: makes him tick. But they've also the Jets have been
Speaker 1: scouting these quarterbacks for two years, and I I they
Speaker 1: have to feel confident with what they're gonna get. Organizationally,
Speaker 1: not just mcagnet, but the scouts and everyone else have
Speaker 1: been sent out to track every one of these players
Speaker 1: moves for seven hundred days. Going back to that birth
Speaker 1: rear piece. Plan A was actually to draft a quarterback high,
Speaker 1: assuming would be a night or seventeen would be a nightmare.
Speaker 1: Last season, then the Cousins they went to the Cousins race.
Speaker 1: That didn't work out. So they're back to the Plan A,
Speaker 1: which was planed B or Plan B which was playing today,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be okay. I think that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: It just it shows you how costly those winds of
Speaker 1: brutal and like. For instance, the Bills should have lost
Speaker 1: that that game in the snow against the Colts and
Speaker 1: then the Colts have another win. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the tie breaker would have been, but they would have
Speaker 1: had the same record as the Jets. Who knows. You
Speaker 1: might have just said, you might have just been in
Speaker 1: the number three spot if that game. There's just so
Speaker 1: many crazy factors, and now the Colts get, you know,
Speaker 1: four second round picks out of it because because you know,
Speaker 1: Chuck Pogano decided not to get closer for an Adam
Speaker 1: in military field goal. It's just so strange. Dan, we
Speaker 1: spoke Friday about you're saying that you like Lombardi's quote
Speaker 1: about football being the perfect team sport except for the
Speaker 1: imbalance at the quarterback is too important. And that goes
Speaker 1: hand in hand with another one of my favorite quotes
Speaker 1: from Thomas Dimitrof. When you don't have a QB, the
Speaker 1: search for one consumes you. But my new favorite to
Speaker 1: describe the value of a quarterback in the NFL David
Speaker 1: Letterman at the Peyton Manning ceremony when he said, this
Speaker 1: guy changed the skyline of the city. This is the
Speaker 1: goal of every NFL team to have a quarterback in
Speaker 1: place for two decades. That makes you one of the
Speaker 1: eight or ten franchises who are relevant to ESPN, NFL Network,
Speaker 1: and everyone else who covers football because two thirds of
Speaker 1: the league. Here's a dirty little secret doesn't get reported on,
Speaker 1: and it is irrelevant to most of the major networks.
Speaker 1: Most of the most of the media. You do not
Speaker 1: want to be on the Bills, Jets and Brown's hamster
Speaker 1: wheel of irrelevance for two decades. You want the quarterback
Speaker 1: who changes skylines, gets buildings built, make sure you sell
Speaker 1: out every game like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and
Speaker 1: changes the skyline. That's the goal and that's what the
Speaker 1: Jets are trying to do. And if Peyton Manning doesn't
Speaker 1: have that one lost season due to the neck injury
Speaker 1: where the Cults conveniently out of nowhere go what one
Speaker 1: in fifteen, they get Andrew Luck, then the Colts are
Speaker 1: one of these teams that couldn't have made this deal.
Speaker 1: The only reason that we can praise Chris Ballard, and
Speaker 1: he should deserve He deserves praise. But you're you. You're
Speaker 1: able to make this move because assuming Andrew Luck doesn't
Speaker 1: have more health issues, you've got that guy and so
Speaker 1: you can accrue draft picks and build around it. We haven't.
Speaker 1: It's randomness that goes into it. Tom Brady lasting until
Speaker 1: pick one, randomness. We we haven't. We hadn't heard from
Speaker 1: Keith Handerson, while how about how about Chris Ballard? I'd
Speaker 1: like to hear from him. What's your favorite type of frog?
Speaker 1: He still I mean, he doesn't have a lot of
Speaker 1: different things to say, but it's always interesting his questioning anyway. UM,
Speaker 1: so that's what's going on. So is it possible? Is
Speaker 1: it really possible, by the way, that the first five
Speaker 1: quarterback draft picks would be quarterbacks? That's not possible. I
Speaker 1: think it's ever happened Cleveland. Do you won't have to
Speaker 1: trade out because Cleveland's got the fourth pick, So four
Speaker 1: of the top five because you go to Denver. Three. Yes,
Speaker 1: there have been three. There have been three. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's ever been top four. I don't when was
Speaker 1: the last. Hit me with an absolutely, Oh no, I
Speaker 1: think there's been. There's been three. I've spent a couple
Speaker 1: of times when they were top three. When you hit
Speaker 1: somebody that absolutely, I want the facts. No, I thought
Speaker 1: you asked if the top three could be no quarterbacks
Speaker 1: this time, and that's what I would be. It's an
Speaker 1: interesting scenario. I haven't I haven't heard anyone. No Pine.
Speaker 1: Could it be all four, you know with the Browns
Speaker 1: and so it would be Donald Rosen, Allen Mayfield and
Speaker 1: who would be the fifth? Well? F R. Jackson could
Speaker 1: come off at some point after that, because listen to
Speaker 1: the other player in this if they if they have
Speaker 1: any way to do it. I think Miami realizes, as
Speaker 1: they should have a month ago. They're not going to
Speaker 1: get Biger Mayfield or any of these guys they like
Speaker 1: at eleven. They're gonna have to try to win. You
Speaker 1: got three a f C East teams trying to get
Speaker 1: into the top five. For it's also such an inexact science.
Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks was talking last week. Some teams have Mason
Speaker 1: Rudolph ranked first or second, second or third, and I
Speaker 1: don't think it's like some crazy like they're just out
Speaker 1: on a crazy ledger. They're like, no, we like him
Speaker 1: about third for for those reasons. And so that makes
Speaker 1: me think, well, he's getting taken in the first round,
Speaker 1: and maybe he's going to be a guy that Arizona
Speaker 1: and Miami looks at. I don't know if those are
Speaker 1: those teams that like him. I wonder how many qbs
Speaker 1: go in the first round. I mean Baltimore. Baltimore has
Speaker 1: been talked about as a sneak team to grab a
Speaker 1: quarterback there at their one pick after the after the
Speaker 1: Cardinals FIFTI Cardinals US Dolphins in addition to all the
Speaker 1: teams we've been talking about. Patriots probably not in the
Speaker 1: first round, but nothing would shock me with them. The
Speaker 1: crazy thing is because the quarterback absence is right now
Speaker 1: about five or six quarterbacks around the league. And if
Speaker 1: if this will not happen, you know that two of
Speaker 1: these guys will work out, the rest will completely ask
Speaker 1: the bed and it will be an utter nightmare for
Speaker 1: three franchises. But if it ever, if it ever did
Speaker 1: work out, and this was the draft that for a
Speaker 1: certain amount of time brought us to the point where
Speaker 1: we finally in our lifetime have thirty two functioning, enjoyable
Speaker 1: starting It won't up and but one of these big
Speaker 1: smith another one's gonna be k McNown doubt it could
Speaker 1: be two thousand four with three either hall of fame
Speaker 1: or borderline hall of fame quarterback would change the differences.
Speaker 1: Back in two thousand four, people weren't going as crazy,
Speaker 1: and guys like Ben Roethlisberger could slip to eleven, or
Speaker 1: a team like the Chargers continently con trade down when
Speaker 1: guys like Pat Mahomes and Deshaun Watson slipped. That's fair. Yep.
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to put them right there, right there.
Speaker 1: One Jets Brown's AFC title game sound good. I mean
Speaker 1: it sounds great. As long as my team wins. It
Speaker 1: could be even more painful to lose to the Jets.
Speaker 1: And after They'll take a lot now, because then I'll
Speaker 1: know the quarterback is good. That last time they played
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, it was one of the longest games
Speaker 1: in NFL history. Not possible with ten minute overtime. I
Speaker 1: would guarantee doubling. Uh the combined Jets and Brown Super
Speaker 1: Bowl appearances. There was a game like that, right, oh, Gret, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, let's get into the rest of the news
Speaker 1: around the league, and we'll start with Yes, the honey Badger,
Speaker 1: he finds work. It happened on Friday after we UH
Speaker 1: finished our show, UH, the Houston Texans signed the former
Speaker 1: Cardinals defensive back UH Tyrone Matthew. Uh. The deal is
Speaker 1: for one year and seven million. According to Tom Palcero,
Speaker 1: who had the report for us UH, the deal was
Speaker 1: official on Monday. West. I am really surprised that he
Speaker 1: essentially signed for approved deal, were you, Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: part of that's the safety market, which has been non existent. UM.
Speaker 1: I think he was the first big name at all
Speaker 1: the safeties to sign. There's been no Earl Thomas trade um.
Speaker 1: I think that was a big part of it, and
Speaker 1: probably teams wondering, is Tyrone Matthew ever gonna be two
Speaker 1: thousand fifteen all pro Tyron Matthew Again? He wasn't quite
Speaker 1: that even at the end of last year. But this
Speaker 1: Texans defense is variant freaking because they have so many
Speaker 1: question marks. He's one of them. Will J. J. Watt
Speaker 1: ever be the same player? Will Whitney Merciless come back
Speaker 1: to what he was? Can there are other additions really
Speaker 1: bolster a secondary that needed it last year. They seem
Speaker 1: like a fascinating defense. If half of those answers are no,
Speaker 1: they're in big trouble. But they were not a good
Speaker 1: secondary last At the upside with Clowney Merciless wat Honey Badger,
Speaker 1: it's pretty exciting, especially especially the pass rushers and Matthews
Speaker 1: at a different level. I was. I was really surprised,
Speaker 1: and this maybe is a case where we allowed, you know,
Speaker 1: a player that we really love watching play. We certainly
Speaker 1: love his personality, color, how we thought his market was
Speaker 1: gonna be. Although I don't think we were the only ones,
Speaker 1: because that was surprising. I think his judging by his words,
Speaker 1: his agent was expecting something better. But I did ask
Speaker 1: around a little bit about this one, and I didn't think.
Speaker 1: I guess there wasn't what you said in terms of
Speaker 1: the health, whether he's ever gonna be all the way
Speaker 1: back physically. And I think the question with him was
Speaker 1: he has to prove that he can cover wide receivers
Speaker 1: out of the slot. I think there's some question whether
Speaker 1: he really is a cover guy, and if he's not,
Speaker 1: then what is. He's sort of a box safety, So
Speaker 1: I think there's some question if he can show that
Speaker 1: he can cover guys one on one in human he
Speaker 1: might be resigning in Houston for a lot of money.
Speaker 1: I mean, free safeties cover wide receivers more now, and
Speaker 1: they get the ones that get big contracts. They're usually
Speaker 1: covering running backs and tight ends out of the back field.
Speaker 1: I mean they can do they can do zone. You know,
Speaker 1: he might be more of his own guy either way.
Speaker 1: I think there was question obviously that that he could
Speaker 1: get back to the level he was at, and he'll
Speaker 1: have a chance to prove it. I mean Don Terry
Speaker 1: po and Alison Dreffrey are great examples of guys who
Speaker 1: settled for prove it deals last year and ended up
Speaker 1: getting paid. This stat from Bill Barnwell of ESPN that
Speaker 1: speaks to the statistical drop of Honey Badger Uh. He
Speaker 1: had uh five interceptions, eleven tackles for a loss, knocked
Speaker 1: away seventeen passes in fourteen games before suffering that second
Speaker 1: tour in a c L in three years in the
Speaker 1: twenty six games and two in sixteen seventeen two interceptions,
Speaker 1: nine tackles for lost eight past breakup. So maybe not
Speaker 1: as productive a guy, and they and a team like
Speaker 1: the Texans was smart to be able to um sign
Speaker 1: a guy that has a chance and a chip on
Speaker 1: the shoulder to get back to that level, or maybe
Speaker 1: he doesn't. I guess if you're the Texans, you wish
Speaker 1: you had him for more than one year because if
Speaker 1: he's if he's a monster again this year, then he
Speaker 1: hits the open water and you do what Jeffrey. You
Speaker 1: do what Jeffrey did with the Eagles, I think showed
Speaker 1: a nice blueprint of what to do with some of
Speaker 1: these high risk guys high reward Jeffrey and Timmy journ
Speaker 1: again were both brought in on one with one year deals.
Speaker 1: One was a free agent, one was a trade, and
Speaker 1: by late in the season they were like, these are
Speaker 1: our guys and you can get those long term deals
Speaker 1: done during the season. Yeah, Matthew is gonna look at
Speaker 1: him and say, this is the team that took a
Speaker 1: shot on me. I don't know how. I don't know
Speaker 1: who else try to recruit him, but JJ Watt was
Speaker 1: a huge reason that he went there. Moving on Kyle Fuller,
Speaker 1: He's staying with the Bears, but another team made a play.
Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers had signed Fuller, the cornerback, to
Speaker 1: a offer sheet UH, and Chicago quickly matched it. So
Speaker 1: the deal is fifty six million over four years, eighteen
Speaker 1: million and guarantees. Rap sheet reported, Um, Greg, can you
Speaker 1: kind of make sense of this to me? I'm just
Speaker 1: a little confused about the way they play this, UH Packers,
Speaker 1: the the Bears basically let another team negotiate for them
Speaker 1: and then immediately matched the deal, And what was what
Speaker 1: was behind all this. I'm a little confused to of
Speaker 1: the reaction to it, which has been suspiciously similar across
Speaker 1: the outlets, as if they're getting talking points from someone
Speaker 1: inside the Bears building. Ultimately, yeah, the Bears can argue that, Hey,
Speaker 1: the Packers kind of negotiated for us. It was tough
Speaker 1: to get a deal done. We didn't want to, you know,
Speaker 1: set his number really high by giving him the franchise tag.
Speaker 1: I still look at it like you're paying Kyle Fuller
Speaker 1: as much money in the next two years as almost
Speaker 1: any cornerback in football. A that's questionable and be if
Speaker 1: you had been a little more aggressive to begin with,
Speaker 1: certainly if you gave him the fifth year option. I
Speaker 1: understand the reasons they didn't do it, but I would
Speaker 1: have rather kept him on the franchise tag than than
Speaker 1: do this deal, because they basically gave him a two year,
Speaker 1: twenty nine and a half million dollar deal, and they
Speaker 1: had that. They had the Packers negotiate for him, but
Speaker 1: I think they could have had them for lass isn't start.
Speaker 1: If you start with the franchise tag number of fifteen million,
Speaker 1: then this deal goes even higher. Maybe, I mean that's
Speaker 1: they want him their long term, but I I think
Speaker 1: that they wanted to find out what his market was.
Speaker 1: They honestly didn't know what his market was. And part
Speaker 1: of it is he wanted to find out maybe what
Speaker 1: his market was too, instead of just accepting a deal
Speaker 1: before going to free agency, and he found out. It
Speaker 1: makes sense that they matched it right away. Why let
Speaker 1: a good player go away? To me, the confusing part
Speaker 1: was why did the Packers make it so easy to
Speaker 1: match that? Did they really think the Bears weren't going
Speaker 1: to match that? Maybe they're just getting them to pay it.
Speaker 1: I mean, why not do it? You know what, It
Speaker 1: doesn't hurt. It's like ask and it's like asking for
Speaker 1: a raise. I think it's a reason you don't see
Speaker 1: the transition tag used very often at all because the
Speaker 1: reactions by everyone are kind of just like, excuse me.
Speaker 1: It is crazy though. And in the fifth year option thing,
Speaker 1: I I really think if you're keeping a player on
Speaker 1: your roster, give him the fifth year option. There there
Speaker 1: is so little downside. Kyle Fuller would be on their
Speaker 1: team for I think a third as much this season
Speaker 1: as he will wind up being. I think he's getting
Speaker 1: twenty one twenty two million dollars this year. Now, speaking
Speaker 1: of proven deal, Sheldon Richardson has found a home. It
Speaker 1: is with the star studded Minnesota Vikings. Minnesota announced Friday,
Speaker 1: that the former Seahawks and Jets defensive lineman Uh signed
Speaker 1: a one year, eight million dollar packed worth up to
Speaker 1: eleven million in incentives Uh to join a stack defense
Speaker 1: defense in Minnesota. Mark the rich get Richer and Richardson,
Speaker 1: who's still just twenty seven years old, gets a chance
Speaker 1: to really re establish his value. Uh. A great defense
Speaker 1: from a Viking standpoint, reminds me a little bit with
Speaker 1: the Seahawks up until before this offseason, where they were
Speaker 1: adding these big name defenders to what they thought was
Speaker 1: a team still in its super Bowl window and keep
Speaker 1: adding strength on strength the Viking. The Vikings right now
Speaker 1: have Sheldon Richardson and Lindvald Joseph a tackle and Everson
Speaker 1: Griffin and Danielle Hunter, and that is an incredible defensive
Speaker 1: line if they stay healthy, and they're basically saying our
Speaker 1: super Bowl window is wide open, We're gonna keep adding
Speaker 1: these guys and they in the one thing for all
Speaker 1: the quarterback chatter Mike Zimmer and Rick fieldmand did talk about,
Speaker 1: we cannot lose what is the heart of our team,
Speaker 1: which is our defense. We have to keep these guys
Speaker 1: around for the extent of this run. Um. I think
Speaker 1: the the NFL said a message to Richardson too, which
Speaker 1: is like, we don't trust you. Yeah, so because he
Speaker 1: is such a talented guy. I mean I saw it
Speaker 1: as a Jets fan when he was at his peak
Speaker 1: and around two thousand four two fifteen before he started
Speaker 1: getting into trouble. The guy was a terror on defenses.
Speaker 1: But people don't want to give him a long term
Speaker 1: deal because there's been too many red flags. So this
Speaker 1: is what he's gotta live with. He kind of paid
Speaker 1: for that, and if he can't succeed, it's a great
Speaker 1: position to look great because if you can't succeed on
Speaker 1: that defensive line, and you're gonna be on television national
Speaker 1: television pretty much every other week and a lot of
Speaker 1: prime time games, and you can be part of a
Speaker 1: quote unquote winning culture that goes to the playoffs and
Speaker 1: like all that stuff I think helps your bottom line.
Speaker 1: As as Malcolm Butler and Nate Solder. I mean, if
Speaker 1: he if he can't get it done there, he's not
Speaker 1: gonna get it done. Would stick to the speed limit
Speaker 1: please in Minnesota on the streets in Minnesota, spart It's why,
Speaker 1: and Dominicans should sign with the Rams. Just just go
Speaker 1: to go to the Rams, play next to Aaron Donald,
Speaker 1: you be on TV every week, and you can go
Speaker 1: back into free agency next year to sign a one
Speaker 1: year deal and wreck wreck. The league can't wait for
Speaker 1: an offseason full of who has the best defensive line
Speaker 1: in football? With Michael Bennett saying things like, I think
Speaker 1: we can have the greatest defensive line in the history
Speaker 1: of the NFL. They're pretty good, comparing it to the
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors, as if he learned nothing from Vince Young. Um,
Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson. We were just in Minnesota, so we can
Speaker 1: and give you some tips how to stay out of
Speaker 1: trouble but still have fun. I think it begins and
Speaker 1: ends with the t j I Fridays. Just lockdown, get
Speaker 1: a nice coke and some hall openion poppers. Great. Wait
Speaker 1: stuff there? Who's the waiter again that we love? That
Speaker 1: was his name? Uh? What was his name? Damn? It
Speaker 1: was something unique. I've got a guy. I've got two
Speaker 1: three more words for it for him. Just as a recommendation,
Speaker 1: long sleeve undershirts, it's time makes a big time different.
Speaker 1: How about long john underpants? It called up there? Moving on,
Speaker 1: Legarry speaking of cold locations. Uh, he signs with the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions like that. Everybody knows him as just one
Speaker 1: the former Eagles running back, the former Patriots running back.
Speaker 1: He is on a two season Super Bowl championship streak,
Speaker 1: and now he goes to a team that's never even
Speaker 1: went to the super Bowl. But anyway, Blunt un it's
Speaker 1: with Matt Patricia, who of course was with New England
Speaker 1: for the last several years. But but Greg Rosenthal, Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of buzz percolating that the Lions are
Speaker 1: going to add someone else to go with Lagary as
Speaker 1: soon as the draft. Well, that shows there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of faith in amer Abdullah who's there. I was interested,
Speaker 1: He got a lot of he got a lot of runs,
Speaker 1: did any had his chance to himself right, and the
Speaker 1: regime still likes him. I don't know where this buzz
Speaker 1: is coming from about the draft because everything they've said,
Speaker 1: Amer Abdula is still in our plans. I I was
Speaker 1: really intrigued by Blunt saying, Uh, he had a really
Speaker 1: strong bond with Matt Patricia. Any time I ever saw him,
Speaker 1: I'm quoting um now any part of the building, whatever
Speaker 1: the circumstances, it was always laughs and jokes, we got
Speaker 1: really close to get serious. I just like this idea
Speaker 1: of that matt Patricia is sort of this uh man
Speaker 1: about town that like everyone loves, and it was it
Speaker 1: was just Belichick kind of constraining him publicly, and now
Speaker 1: we're learning that he's the life of the party. I
Speaker 1: think we act like the offense and defense in these buildings.
Speaker 1: Never you know, rattenized or see each other. These guys
Speaker 1: are locked down in the billion twenty four hours a
Speaker 1: day teams. You remember Collisional Low Crossers that showed how
Speaker 1: separated those two worlds can be. But maybe Mattie Patricia
Speaker 1: is just one of his exceptions that everybody you know,
Speaker 1: he right, He lights up a room, Maddie. This is
Speaker 1: a position they've needed for a long time, a power
Speaker 1: back in Detroit. But I'm a little interested to see
Speaker 1: how it works out, because these backfields where they have
Speaker 1: the power guy and the passing down guy often don't
Speaker 1: work out because there's so much of a tell about
Speaker 1: who's coming into the game what you're gonna do. The
Speaker 1: Saints have guys like Ingram and Kamara who can do both.
Speaker 1: One of them is a passing down guy who runs well,
Speaker 1: and the others, a running down guy who catches well.
Speaker 1: Blunt is one of the least effective receiving backs in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And who's the theo Rittic is one of
Speaker 1: the least effective running running backs in the NFL. So
Speaker 1: it's a tell. And that's why they have to keep
Speaker 1: a mirrorup Doula because he can do both. Just when
Speaker 1: you thought it was safe to go back in the water,
Speaker 1: the trade tsunami strikes once more. Oh my goodness, or
Speaker 1: even on land, it's not even safe there. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the nature of the tsunami is it's attacking the land
Speaker 1: from the sea. But obviously being if you're looking to
Speaker 1: just you know, hang out in the water, go to
Speaker 1: the sixth floor of your local tall building. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: Patriots acquired kick returner slash wide receiver Cordurel Patterson as
Speaker 1: well as a sixth round pick in this year's draft
Speaker 1: from the Oakland Raiders in exchange for a fifth round pick.
Speaker 1: Uh this season and uh, greg, this is a move
Speaker 1: for the Pats that obviously they had a hole after
Speaker 1: Dion Lewis left for Tennessee and their kick return game.
Speaker 1: I would need to be convinced that he's Cordell Patterson
Speaker 1: is gonna be a part of their offense, but who knows. No,
Speaker 1: I don't think he will. I mean, just looking at Edelman,
Speaker 1: Hogan Cooks, Malcolm Mitchell, Kenny Britton theory. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: at best fifth or six, but they I like that
Speaker 1: the Patriots put such an extreme value on special teams.
Speaker 1: Is kind of part of their secret sauce that they
Speaker 1: invest more in special teams than just about any team
Speaker 1: in the league. And it shows up every year. They're
Speaker 1: always one of the top six or seven special They're
Speaker 1: gonna lose your boy, Matthew Slater, it looks like that.
Speaker 1: I thought the timing was interesting because cor Darryl isn't
Speaker 1: just a return or. He's also a gunner. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: really good at point there. There's a pretty strong argument
Speaker 1: that we made he's the best special teams player in
Speaker 1: the NFL. So why did the Raiders give up? Because
Speaker 1: they thought he's he's a terrible wide receiver and he
Speaker 1: is apparently, and I think that was what they were focused.
Speaker 1: John Cruden determined to go five and eleven aotball and
Speaker 1: other Raiders news Beast mode is gonna be sticking around
Speaker 1: it looks like because he will get that one million
Speaker 1: dollar roster bonus um. According to rap Sheet, he's scheduled
Speaker 1: to make about six million in two thousand and eighteen.
Speaker 1: So Marshawn Lynch and Doug Martin Mark Sessler will be
Speaker 1: the two lead guys. It looks like, uh, do you
Speaker 1: like that pairing? I mean, they've got a deep roster
Speaker 1: because DeAndre Washington, you got jal and Richard as well.
Speaker 1: I don't. I was not huge on Marshawn Lynch last year.
Speaker 1: I thought he played better than I thought he would.
Speaker 1: I think it depends completely which Doug Martin you get.
Speaker 1: I I I'm kind of surprised they're keeping Lynch. I Greg,
Speaker 1: I believe you had a sandwich on this and gone.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if I took you up on that.
Speaker 1: Maybe I did for just for the game itself. But Friday,
Speaker 1: I mean, I just I don't. It's it's an interesting move.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd want Lynch is my starting
Speaker 1: guy into the bust is the way I would I
Speaker 1: would look at their backfield if I'm a fan of
Speaker 1: another a f C West team, I like everything I'm
Speaker 1: here and coming out of Oakland I agree. Do you
Speaker 1: think he was one of the best running backs in
Speaker 1: the league in the last To me, it was solid.
Speaker 1: Last is building a Jeff Fisher team so that I
Speaker 1: would love for an a f if I'm a Church
Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled with this. Your Chiefs fan watching that
Speaker 1: Chiefs reload have a whole different type of quarterback, and
Speaker 1: you're looking at the Raiders insane, and I'm watching the
Speaker 1: way Andy Reid runs that offense going up against philosophy
Speaker 1: with John Gruden, and I'm happy with Andy Reid. I'm
Speaker 1: also seeing the Broncos going this way down they are
Speaker 1: The Chargers are always going to be the Chargers that
Speaker 1: everybody gets excited to win seven to nine games. Probably,
Speaker 1: I think there's definitely a path of the Raiders to
Speaker 1: be fighting in that an f C West for that's
Speaker 1: the Chargers division to lose. They have the best roster
Speaker 1: in that division. Here we go again and at the year,
Speaker 1: I'll put my money down on him again. I'll do
Speaker 1: it again to believe in talent over randomness. If you
Speaker 1: just stick with the same teams the year after your year,
Speaker 1: then you end up being right the Eagles. With the
Speaker 1: Eagles finally came around for you. Uh and another Patriots moves.
Speaker 1: They signed Adrian Clayborne two year, twelve million dollars. Uh,
Speaker 1: so he gives them another guy on the edge. They
Speaker 1: also signed a running back. Uh oh, this is gonna
Speaker 1: work out for annoying Jeremy Hill all over. Once upon
Speaker 1: a time where one of the young power backs in
Speaker 1: the league everybody was excited about. And ever since that
Speaker 1: fumble in the playoff game against the Steelers, it seemed
Speaker 1: like his career went in the tank the last two years.
Speaker 1: And now he gets a chance at redemption in Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick's offense. That's Cincinnate to New England running back pipeline.
Speaker 1: You've got Rex burkhead, Corey Dylan, now you got Jeremy Hill.
Speaker 1: The Bengals gotten out of that pipeline. Anything going Jarvis
Speaker 1: green ellis they got bent tated Tate. I don't think
Speaker 1: the pipelines should work properly. It's supposed to be like
Speaker 1: both ways. Things should be coming in a positive way
Speaker 1: to the sewage just floated down from Pittsburgh to Cincinnati
Speaker 1: on the Ohio River, and the Bengals would sign everyone
Speaker 1: cut by the Steelers. This this is the part of
Speaker 1: free agency. Lewis Riddick for what it's worth, kind of
Speaker 1: a Belichick disciple put it out on Twitter today that like,
Speaker 1: this is the key part of free agency. This is
Speaker 1: when the best signings happened. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: that might be over stating a little bit, but we
Speaker 1: do get caught up in many sounds smart, We do
Speaker 1: get caught up in like really reacting after a couple
Speaker 1: of days, and now the Patriots and many other teams
Speaker 1: are gonna keep filling in their rosters. And it's like,
Speaker 1: at this point, one of the Patriots really lost Nate
Speaker 1: Solder to me is a huge loss, uh, And you
Speaker 1: have to figure out how to fix that, and they'll
Speaker 1: probably resign one of their guys like le Adrian Waddle.
Speaker 1: But that's that's not necessarily a total. But after that,
Speaker 1: it's like, all right, you're filling in your roster with
Speaker 1: some guys and you can totally see them making hill
Speaker 1: work in Clayborne at least providing pretty cheap, solid defensive
Speaker 1: ends snaps like he did a year ago. And it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm always interested in who, especially on offense for me,
Speaker 1: who they decide to zero in on that other teams
Speaker 1: did not see. Now, Jeremy Hill, I think he kind
Speaker 1: of just ran. The team ran out of patience with him.
Speaker 1: But this is the team that turned Rex burke Head
Speaker 1: into a ten times better player than he was. Chris
Speaker 1: Hogan with the Bills, I mean they are they're playing
Speaker 1: these teams scouting, okay, but that's because they have five
Speaker 1: other running backs that work. But yeah, no, your point,
Speaker 1: I mean, Chris Hogan, come on, Buil just brought up.
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about that the last three years.
Speaker 1: Now on the offseason, the Patriots have made a second
Speaker 1: tier pick up that everybody's like, oh, that's gonna work,
Speaker 1: Hogan Birkehead. Although Burkehead wasn't like a home run left
Speaker 1: he looked about offense. He blew his knee and you
Speaker 1: can't tell what running backs are gonna do and who's
Speaker 1: in there. Burkhead's perfect for that. Uh. And other news,
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are having a nice little couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. I think Vinny Curry agrees to a three
Speaker 1: or twenty three million dollar deal with the Bucks. He
Speaker 1: was released by the Eagles. But the pipeline told us
Speaker 1: that the pipeline could be a lot of different things.
Speaker 1: We were told via the pipeline that that was not
Speaker 1: for performance reasons. The Eagles just had salary capishes, so
Speaker 1: Curry had to go. The Bucks paid like they wanted
Speaker 1: a guy that or they believe there's this guy that
Speaker 1: could make a real impact. You like this move, West,
Speaker 1: I do. I kind of like what the Bucks are
Speaker 1: doing so far. Uh Curry, I think is an upgrade
Speaker 1: on a declining agen Robert Airs, and they desperately needed all.
Speaker 1: I thought offensive line was their biggest need. Secondary probably too,
Speaker 1: but Ryan Jensen helps him put Ali Moore Pett back
Speaker 1: at guard. Still have an issue at left tackle, but
Speaker 1: I think Jamis Winson is going to be running out
Speaker 1: of excuses soon. I'd wear I'd be wary of almost
Speaker 1: any offensive line signing this offseason because history tells us
Speaker 1: half of them are gonna be bussed. I mean, these
Speaker 1: are a lot of guys I put. I kind of
Speaker 1: put them as a group in in a in a
Speaker 1: Worse Contracts of Free Agency column. And Ryan Jensen, who
Speaker 1: started sixteen, played sixteen games at center in his life.
Speaker 1: It was a backup for five seasons basically in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Is now the highest paid center in the league. Justin
Speaker 1: Pew and Weston had a vigorous market. People loved him.
Speaker 1: He had a great year. But I'm just saying a
Speaker 1: guy that the the Ravens literally never trusted to be
Speaker 1: a starter, including last season, until injuries started and he
Speaker 1: played great. Maybe it'll work out. I have none of
Speaker 1: us really know. Justin Pugh and Weston Richberg, both coming
Speaker 1: off serious injury concerns, got paid full price. Your guy
Speaker 1: Hubbard on Cleveland's like, if you needed an offensive lineman,
Speaker 1: you just had to pay them like stars. Now, my guy,
Speaker 1: I would ay that. I mean, Peter King, Well, you're right,
Speaker 1: because I order all the jerseys because they cost about
Speaker 1: a hundred and eighty dollars each and I'm just flushed
Speaker 1: with cash. But like the Jensen got as many calls
Speaker 1: as Kirk Cousins from the according to his agent early on.
Speaker 1: So and the one thing about the Bucks, if they
Speaker 1: get good, I need you. If we're gonna have additional games,
Speaker 1: you must change the uniforms immediately. I cannot watch an
Speaker 1: extra one, two or three games of the boxing these outfits.
Speaker 1: I think there's some type of amount of time they
Speaker 1: must stick with. You know, it's five years, and that's
Speaker 1: five years too many with these outfits. Stick it out,
Speaker 1: Stick it out, guys hanging there by the way, nice use.
Speaker 1: They're a vigorous, vigorous market, usually vigorous lover. It's one
Speaker 1: of those words that connects with another one. I feel
Speaker 1: like I've heard Damn Check say that about himself. Yes,
Speaker 1: he calls himself a vigorous lover. Waiting for a second
Speaker 1: or a third source on that um On Check, he's
Speaker 1: acting as his own source. That's that's Orlando. Scander spent
Speaker 1: nine season with the Dallas Cowboys. He stays in the
Speaker 1: NFC East and lands a two year deal worth up
Speaker 1: to ten million with the Washington Football Club. Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: excuse me, Oh, you wrote the post, don't it to you?
Speaker 1: I mean, I I guess they needed they needed cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: Breland goes to market, Kendall went to market. I mean,
Speaker 1: you have to you. He'll step in and play the slot.
Speaker 1: But he's he's not young. And what's going on with
Speaker 1: another failed physical scenario failed in Dominican Republic? All right,
Speaker 1: did that happen after our last podcast? I think it happened.
Speaker 1: Now the details came into details that I feel like
Speaker 1: someone's gonna get a deal for that guy. Well, let's
Speaker 1: see how bad is the cut? If I need more details,
Speaker 1: it required more than a band aid. That's like heart
Speaker 1: that's heartbreaking luck. I don't know, Beshad Brelan, but to
Speaker 1: think that like you might have one big pay day
Speaker 1: in your in your entire life, I mean in terms
Speaker 1: of just like all focused on this one time and
Speaker 1: he cuts his foot, also baring it being a why
Speaker 1: wouldn't the team say, we know this cut's going to
Speaker 1: be fine, like four four weeks from now. From counterpoint,
Speaker 1: Greg wear a pair of shoes. Oh maybe it's the
Speaker 1: thing that he's not the most intelligent vacation er. I
Speaker 1: think he was wearing those gloves for your feet. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: if I was about to make like thirty million dollars
Speaker 1: whatever his contract was, I don't like to go anywhere anyway.
Speaker 1: But put me in the bubble man. Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: you're right, and give me take the vacation after the
Speaker 1: season should end and you should just stay in one
Speaker 1: room until you start even allowed in the dance philosophy,
Speaker 1: I'll vacation outside of the United States when I'm dead. Uh.
Speaker 1: And finally, in the News a UH tweet speaking of
Speaker 1: soon to be dead Levy on Bell. The Steelers UH
Speaker 1: star running back tweeted this out to his followers on Saturday.
Speaker 1: Should I get a pet alligator or should I get piranhas?
Speaker 1: Which would be more lit? Boy Mark, We'll start with you.
Speaker 1: Let's give him honest advice here. Um, I would go
Speaker 1: piranhas because for me, you can it's a dangerous animal.
Speaker 1: I'm a bit more lit. Give me a break, but
Speaker 1: like you can keep it kind of cage. We're just
Speaker 1: trying to help level. I'd go I'd go paranhas because
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a flashy, attractive item. When you have
Speaker 1: like people over to the house, they can stand around
Speaker 1: and look at the fish tank alligator, you gotta track
Speaker 1: where that. Maybe you were comfortable with the slang, but
Speaker 1: you're hitting out exactly what he's asking. What would be more?
Speaker 1: I think that would be That would be That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you'd be people come over and look at
Speaker 1: piranhas in like an awesome fish tank. I think that's
Speaker 1: a sort of a Jimmy Johnson type thing. I'd be
Speaker 1: interested to dive deeper into the connection between professional athletes
Speaker 1: and aggressive pet because it takes an aggressiveness sometimes to
Speaker 1: excel in a sport like football. But like you see
Speaker 1: so many athletes, if you're getting a dog, they're getting
Speaker 1: a rot isiler or a pit bull. Like you don't
Speaker 1: see him ever. Getting a poodle sounds like a long form.
Speaker 1: I don't know if our features editor Ali bon purist
Speaker 1: to listen to the show, but I think this this
Speaker 1: has a West long form. I mean, least welcome it's
Speaker 1: time West and uh. The first reply, by the way,
Speaker 1: to this tweet is from some dude named Isaiah bro
Speaker 1: Please don't get eight, we need you. And then Cole Right,
Speaker 1: our own Cole Right. He just said eight man like
Speaker 1: the number eight or eight he spelled a t uh,
Speaker 1: and Cole Wright chimes in alligator man, beside, take to
Speaker 1: take cool big on the alligator. Um, you know, whatever
Speaker 1: happened to cats, that'd be pretty lit? Just get a
Speaker 1: cat safer attempted at this past season did not go well.
Speaker 1: Cats not lit. Though far from litz, I would say
Speaker 1: piranha is to be safe. You don't you know what
Speaker 1: is the upside of having an I just like an alligators,
Speaker 1: either one of them upside to paranhas. I think right,
Speaker 1: And if you have a badass tank like in your
Speaker 1: in your foyer, great talking point every two anyone whoever
Speaker 1: walks in your home alligator, it's like, oh, suddenly it's
Speaker 1: not in its like little cage by someone's bed. Where
Speaker 1: is it? We're screwed. Your whole day, your whole spind
Speaker 1: your hold. You get like it's a talking point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you walk in, whoa these these piranhas And then he's
Speaker 1: like yeah, man, like I always connected with piranhas as
Speaker 1: a pack. And they attack and they're fearsome. And then
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I get this guy. But if you
Speaker 1: got an alligator that you have to hit, hide it
Speaker 1: in like a back shed in your garage or back
Speaker 1: it's bigger and it just ate your lip. Cat cats
Speaker 1: aren't with all Right, that's it for today's show. We
Speaker 1: will be back. Uh oh little housekeeping. Uh. We are
Speaker 1: going to the owners meetings. We're flying out on Friday,
Speaker 1: so how about that, And we're gonna do two shows
Speaker 1: from Orlando. We're gonna talk with some general managers and
Speaker 1: some head coaches. Don't don't bury the lead. We are
Speaker 1: buying the Carolina Panthers. The four of us. It's happening.
Speaker 1: We couldn't even afford season tickets to the Carolindependent. Uh
Speaker 1: so that will be coming up next week. We will
Speaker 1: have I guess one more show. This week. We won't
Speaker 1: have a show Fridays, will be traveling, so we'll be
Speaker 1: back on Wednesday. But until then, one quick note. Congrats
Speaker 1: to our friend from the Fantasy Circle, no longer with
Speaker 1: the company, but Matt Matt franciscoviched over the weekend to
Speaker 1: a young lady named Mackenzie Reynolds, assuming he knew her
Speaker 1: previous to the week I like that you gave her
Speaker 1: name Mackenzie. Congratulations on your marriage to Matt Franciscovitch. Franchise,
Speaker 1: the franchise A very good a very good guy. All right.
Speaker 1: That's it stands signing off four White Storm that mal
Speaker 1: Man the all boss to Wedsday