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Speaker 1: Check them out? Hey? This is Kyler from Seattle, and
Speaker 1: I was just wondering in honor of Kanye having his
Speaker 1: first son, SATs, what's your favorite Kanye song or Kanye
Speaker 1: B That was I know, I'm trying to play it
Speaker 1: off like I'm not. Do you understand what's going on
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it's a movement. Bro, we
Speaker 1: get we get hurt, you hurt? The beat? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then the beat dropped and then he heard the how
Speaker 1: crazy I don't think you're staying like I'm really I'm
Speaker 1: like a kid in the candy store. Oh that was that?
Speaker 1: That was that not sexy right there? Like that? That
Speaker 1: that was the I'm gonna asking the question favorite Kanye song?
Speaker 1: That power joint? Yeah, that's I was feeling that I
Speaker 1: really I was feeling power. Um, but let's start here.
Speaker 1: Do you guys preferred Old Kanye New Kane Old when
Speaker 1: semi he was semi conscious wrap he was so full
Speaker 1: and now he's like he's still creative, but he's no,
Speaker 1: he's a little bit off the rails. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I I can't lie personally. I'm an old school type
Speaker 1: of type of guy. I like, I like old school Kanye,
Speaker 1: you know, I like through the Wire, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, all that type of stuff. Through the Wire
Speaker 1: is my joint. Like I loved that for a few reasons.
Speaker 1: One like the whole concept of the song and then
Speaker 1: him having his mouth wired and when you listen to it,
Speaker 1: yeah you can tell, you can tell, right, And then
Speaker 1: he came out with the video. I mean he's still
Speaker 1: at the tall like polo shirt on with the collar flip,
Speaker 1: and of course Stacy Dash was in that job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I thought that was that was just the dopest man.
Speaker 1: But TD. I like old Kanye though, like you gotta
Speaker 1: go old Kanye. And hey, but that all day though,
Speaker 1: when he dropped that all day, That's what I was
Speaker 1: going to talk about all day, all day. That was crazy.
Speaker 1: That reminded me of video of a performance he did yea,
Speaker 1: so it was when he dropped it. It It was he
Speaker 1: he was on stage at I think it was Overseas
Speaker 1: and he had like the European goons rug. That was
Speaker 1: one of the illest performances I've ever seen. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was that. That was tough. That was tough. That's fire right,
Speaker 1: that was caught. That was and I hope that from
Speaker 1: what I heard I heard the direction of his new
Speaker 1: album is going into that lane like that more hip hop,
Speaker 1: like Kanye basically saying it's not gonna be heartbreaking ewaits like,
Speaker 1: you know, the heartbreaking eight A Weights has some heat
Speaker 1: on It did some, but I'm used to Kanye putting
Speaker 1: heat throughout the entire thing, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It was just different. I can't say it won't hot
Speaker 1: because some people may like that, right, but it did.
Speaker 1: It just didn't have with some of that olse. But
Speaker 1: but I like that Through the wire though. I felt
Speaker 1: like that was that was his hell out to the
Speaker 1: world and the world was like, Okay, hold up, this
Speaker 1: producer for Rockefeller can rap like sun rap, Like how
Speaker 1: patient do you have to be there? Like give beats
Speaker 1: to the best rapper life, Right, jay Z, You're just
Speaker 1: feeding them beats and you know he's going crazy and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden you're like, hold up, I
Speaker 1: want to get behind the mic. Like that's a lot
Speaker 1: of courage because the ways I heard j was always
Speaker 1: pushing them to wrap. He just ain't kind, he just
Speaker 1: ain't want to do it. They do this thing it's
Speaker 1: called like this or that with celebrities, and I watched
Speaker 1: it and they had game on there, right, you know,
Speaker 1: Aim is you know, in my opinion, one of the
Speaker 1: best Cali rappers out right now. And they said Kanye
Speaker 1: Verse or Kanye Beat. I'm curious, like because he's had
Speaker 1: him both, and I'm like, what's it gonna say? He said,
Speaker 1: I'd rather have a Kanye beat. I gotta have a
Speaker 1: Kanye I'm about to say, I gotta have a beat.
Speaker 1: But sometimes that verse does. What was the joint to
Speaker 1: him and jay Z had when they had to cut
Speaker 1: they cut the top off the Rose Royce and the
Speaker 1: you know the song that was the joint that they
Speaker 1: watched the Throne album, the hot single This Oldest and
Speaker 1: they played listen. I went to the concert jay Z
Speaker 1: and Kanye concert in Detroit at the Detroit Pistons Arena.
Speaker 1: They played that joint five times in a row, right,
Speaker 1: and it's the end of the day, end of the concert.
Speaker 1: Everybody's walking out. We're like, They're like, listen, we played
Speaker 1: this five times in the last city. We're gonna play
Speaker 1: one more time. I'm literally walking out to suite like, man,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Man, they dropped that beat. Everybody's like, oh,
Speaker 1: we leave it with that. We just broke the record
Speaker 1: playing the same song six times in a row. We're like, man, crazy,
Speaker 1: Like literally, heart jumping out my chest. I'm just like, yo,
Speaker 1: that was getting it. I might have been in my
Speaker 1: wife beater at this point. I'm like, I put my
Speaker 1: shirt back on. Listen, yeah, listen, I'm walking out, literally,
Speaker 1: I'm outside. The sweet beat dropped one more time. Listen,
Speaker 1: you wanna talk about hysteria? Like the place went crazy?
Speaker 1: Played the same song seven times in a row, and
Speaker 1: we went bananas. Now that's a Kanye verse that was fired.
Speaker 1: It was, but the beat, it's probably what got you going. Okay.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying before we move on real quick flashing
Speaker 1: lights beat, I think it's the beast Mule will be
Speaker 1: in the last twenty years. I'm a big Dr Dre
Speaker 1: fan did on Flashing Lights. My goodness, that Flashing Lights
Speaker 1: was I like that too, But you know what, I
Speaker 1: had to get back to you on that TV you
Speaker 1: know what. But then he came with that video too,
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm I feel like I'm an artist, like
Speaker 1: you know, people don't know actually no artists in the
Speaker 1: sense of like just expression. You know what. When I'm
Speaker 1: on TV, it's it's a show. If I'm writing down bars,
Speaker 1: it's it's a poem. I love art. Now, he came
Speaker 1: with that beat that I thought was crazy, and then
Speaker 1: the video I don't remember the video was crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had to hype do the video. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But he had to stick John running up on the trunk,
Speaker 1: open the trunk, Kanye in there in the back of
Speaker 1: the trunk, taped up. I don't even know what the
Speaker 1: concept was about at my eyes glued to the screen,
Speaker 1: moving on. Alright, question too, Yeah, before we do that, actually,
Speaker 1: let's get to one of our topics and then we'll
Speaker 1: come back to the hotline after that. That I like
Speaker 1: a radio show and you're just calling it like that,
Speaker 1: all right, So coach versus players. That's a hot button issue. Okay.
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, he played this Seattle Seahawks and they got dogs.
Speaker 1: I do a show back in Seattle every Friday on
Speaker 1: r with my man Softy, you know. And I picked
Speaker 1: Seattle because I felt like, if there's a defense built
Speaker 1: to stop Adrian, it's this one. And it's December. Seattle
Speaker 1: gets hot in December. Right now. Even with that being said,
Speaker 1: I was surprised that Adrian only had eight carries. Now
Speaker 1: they get dogged. As you said, Seattle, it's in rare form,
Speaker 1: beating the breaks off of Minnesota, right. My former team,
Speaker 1: both of them, and they talked to Adrian after the game,
Speaker 1: and we we have we have that, audiot. They were
Speaker 1: just a better team. You know. They were more aggressive,
Speaker 1: played more physical, and you know they out coached just
Speaker 1: as well. It's so many different areas and out and
Speaker 1: I'll play too, in so many different areas as far
Speaker 1: as players as well. Okay, so let me say this
Speaker 1: to the listeners. First, the media, and we work in
Speaker 1: the media now, right, the media, reporters, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: all the people that surround the game. Uh. From that perspective,
Speaker 1: they loved it when you say things like that, like
Speaker 1: you heard immediately after he said it, what the guy
Speaker 1: say our coach this out? He didn't hear. He didn't
Speaker 1: hear anything else. He didn't hear what agents said about
Speaker 1: the game and them being a good team Seahawks. All
Speaker 1: that he heard out coach, So he jumped in on that.
Speaker 1: So when people read these hot these hot lines, if
Speaker 1: you will, in the paper, on on your local NFL
Speaker 1: dot com app, that's the media catching something and then saying,
Speaker 1: please explain, that's what they think about it, what you
Speaker 1: think about it? Should he have done it or not? Yeah?
Speaker 1: He should have done it. Now, now let's let's talk
Speaker 1: about the response before we really dive into this issue.
Speaker 1: The response from Mike Zimmer, the head coach and TV
Speaker 1: just gave me the quote, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: butcher too much, but it's fairly simple. He basically said,
Speaker 1: He goes, I don't really worry about other people's opinions.
Speaker 1: I just worry about what I think. Okay, so now
Speaker 1: let's jump into it. You you just asked me, uh,
Speaker 1: should should have a P? Said that A P is
Speaker 1: the best running back in football right now? Right? Marshawn's
Speaker 1: damn yeah, AP, in my opinion, is the best running
Speaker 1: back of football, quite possibly the best running back of
Speaker 1: our error. He has the right to talk about himself
Speaker 1: his teammates in the coaching there's certain players that don't
Speaker 1: get that right. After eleven years of football, maybe a
Speaker 1: couple of times in my career, maybe a couple of years,
Speaker 1: I had that right because I was playing at a
Speaker 1: high level and I had that respect to where what
Speaker 1: I said had merit and had weight. A P has
Speaker 1: that same type of respect. You Know what's crazy is
Speaker 1: for anybody who says a P shouldn't have said that,
Speaker 1: shouldn't have caught out the coaches? Why not? Because a
Speaker 1: coach can get there on the podium and call out
Speaker 1: a player and we don't even bat an eye, Like
Speaker 1: what's like, Oh, that's what coaches do. They're supposed to.
Speaker 1: This is a family atmosphere, bro, Like, yeah, you might
Speaker 1: be the authority from a coaching perspective, but we all
Speaker 1: working in this together. In facts is AP makes more
Speaker 1: money than everybody, So from a talent standpoint, respect him.
Speaker 1: From a money standpoint, respect him. So if anybody can
Speaker 1: call out anybody, it's a P. So for the fact
Speaker 1: that Mike Zimmer said, I don't concern myself with opinions
Speaker 1: and others. I see that as disrespect to a p
Speaker 1: because AP is not what Mike. He's not and other No,
Speaker 1: he's not another's family and he happens to be the
Speaker 1: face of your franchise. He happens to be the leading
Speaker 1: Russian and National Football League and a big voice on
Speaker 1: this team. This is my only a look, Nate, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't disagree with anything you here, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling you right. My only thing is this. And
Speaker 1: guys always have to sit back and think a little deeper,
Speaker 1: Just think a little deep. And I know it was
Speaker 1: after a game. You're in the heat of things, and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm under I'm from the school of thought like this, Nate,
Speaker 1: you never ever ever burn Bridges right, and just follow
Speaker 1: me on this for you're saying that they follow me
Speaker 1: on this right. And basically what I'm saying is he
Speaker 1: can call out his coach, he can call out all
Speaker 1: the coaches, but you know that fifteen twenty minutes before
Speaker 1: the media comes in, that's when you do it. That's
Speaker 1: when you address the entire team. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: tired of is I bet not get eight carries and
Speaker 1: we need to coach different, we need to play different,
Speaker 1: and you air it out. Then hear me out, hear
Speaker 1: me out. The only reason why I don't say you
Speaker 1: do it in the media is because now every question
Speaker 1: this week, on a short week, and you're going to Arizona,
Speaker 1: you already got a lot of adversity going up. Every
Speaker 1: question this week is gonna be about that. You think
Speaker 1: that's not gonna be a distraction, That's gonna be a
Speaker 1: huge distraction. Hold hold, listen to me, bro listen to me.
Speaker 1: And my thing is sometimes players have to think about
Speaker 1: the long term plan. And I say, dude, don't call
Speaker 1: the distraction for your team. At some point. You may
Speaker 1: need Mike Zimmer at some point in your life. At
Speaker 1: one point or another. You may need him to speak
Speaker 1: one day. You just don't know. You don't embarrass the
Speaker 1: guy in the media. And I always say this name
Speaker 1: listen to hold. I'm listen. I'm always say this. Please
Speaker 1: do always say that. Give me a p S numbers,
Speaker 1: please do please do it don't matter. I'm I'm Mike All.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, yeah, respect the position of head coach.
Speaker 1: Hold up, listen to me, and I think that's an
Speaker 1: issue with players now we hear it all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right, you said a coach can go up there
Speaker 1: and call out a player in the media, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so if we look hold up plenty, we gotta respect.
Speaker 1: Is it fair that if we're the ones on the
Speaker 1: field playing and we lose the game, the coach gets fired.
Speaker 1: Is that right? No, we're held accountable because of how
Speaker 1: we play. They lost one. Yeah, Okay, San Francisco, I'm
Speaker 1: lens your point and I'm gonna say something. All I'm saying.
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is you have to look at the
Speaker 1: big the bigger picture. I'm not I don't have anything
Speaker 1: wrong with a with a p said. My whole thing
Speaker 1: is that is not the right form to do it.
Speaker 1: You create more problems. Bro. You gotta think deeper than that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you are the face of this franchise. You are the lead.
Speaker 1: You are the leader of this team, right and at
Speaker 1: that responsibility that you have means you don't go in
Speaker 1: the media and say that. Now, if you're all in
Speaker 1: the middle of a six seventh game, losing Street or
Speaker 1: something like that, and something just has to happen. Hey, look, man,
Speaker 1: let out your frustration. Mike. I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: feel you. If that happened one time, right, say it
Speaker 1: was the first game and he was underused, he might
Speaker 1: pull back on talking to the media and address the
Speaker 1: team in the coaches in a more private manner. Week
Speaker 1: one of this two thousand and fifteen season, MM, the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings took an al Ajan Peterson had tin rushes
Speaker 1: thirty one yards, which tells me that this has already happened,
Speaker 1: which tells me what you're suggesting he should do could
Speaker 1: have possible. No, No, there's there's more than one game
Speaker 1: where a p didn't get the How come we didn't
Speaker 1: hear those games then? Because maybe what you're suggesting, what
Speaker 1: you're suggesting, he already did. He already did that. So okay,
Speaker 1: if you already went to the coaches and had that
Speaker 1: conversation a coach for we don't know that. We can't assume.
Speaker 1: And the facts are he went and said it right now,
Speaker 1: game week thirteen, after the game, and and and and
Speaker 1: to address your week one point, Week one, this guy
Speaker 1: missed fourth fifteen games last year. It didn't have You
Speaker 1: mean to tell me I'm gonna get it and even
Speaker 1: if you need to tell me, I'm gonna get this
Speaker 1: guy thirty carriers on week one. No, No, this is
Speaker 1: a marathon, not a sprint, Nate, you know that. I
Speaker 1: feel you one hundred per cent. So from all the facts,
Speaker 1: we haven't heard it, and from we haven't heard him
Speaker 1: have this issue other than this week. The facts we don't.
Speaker 1: We don't know whether he talked to the coach that
Speaker 1: had the conversation. I'm saying. All we know is that
Speaker 1: he said it and addressed it this week. You could
Speaker 1: have chose another way to do it. And what we're
Speaker 1: talking about for for the listeners, it's there's unspoken rules
Speaker 1: in the NFL, right, and we have to abide by them.
Speaker 1: Some of them are player to player rules, some of
Speaker 1: them are player to coach, some of them are players
Speaker 1: to city. Like, there's all these unspoken rules that we
Speaker 1: abide by and we know that and this is one
Speaker 1: of them. You don't call out to coaches because you
Speaker 1: have a honorable sense about that. You would take responsibility
Speaker 1: and you handle that stuff behind closed doors. But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Mike, I feel like there's certain individuals in
Speaker 1: this league and there's it's very few almost like the
Speaker 1: demi gods of of the NFL. They are above the
Speaker 1: unspoken rules. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning of time. Tell me
Speaker 1: a Tim Peyton Manning or Tom Brady called out his coach.
Speaker 1: Man there's been some slicks. Tell me a time when
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning or Tom Brady directly called out the head coach.
Speaker 1: Tom belie the best. Okay, tell me Tom Peyton did
Speaker 1: that too. Whoever, whoever ever he's had. I honestly believe
Speaker 1: if we had the time, I guarantee I can find something.
Speaker 1: I think Peyton said some slicks stuff. Okay, read between
Speaker 1: the lines, but never you can read between the lines,
Speaker 1: but never can you quote this guy saying we got out.
Speaker 1: Why do you have to read between the lines. When
Speaker 1: the individual is carrying the franchise, he's just carrying balls
Speaker 1: out the backfield. He's carrying the franchise ape, he's carrying
Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings bro like this. This there's a few
Speaker 1: organizations out there where you look at toime, even Tom,
Speaker 1: the best quarterback could go down the best quarterback of
Speaker 1: all time. He had Grounk at one point, he had
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman. He still had players around him where you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, he has tremendous compliments. Now AP got compliments.
Speaker 1: I'm not knocking anybody on the Minnesota Vikings team, but
Speaker 1: he is carrying the franchise. You don't think he has
Speaker 1: the right to step up and say today we got
Speaker 1: our coach in a classy way. And then he followed
Speaker 1: it by saying our coach and our play. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: we all know, we all live in this media world.
Speaker 1: They're gonna chop and screw that, and they're only gonna
Speaker 1: put out the our coach. Now check this out. It's
Speaker 1: all about respect. It's all about respect. It's obvious your
Speaker 1: head coach was disrespected. You know why because his response
Speaker 1: was I only where he bought the opinions of my own.
Speaker 1: He took that personally, and it was it was that
Speaker 1: he disrespected AP by saying, I'm not concerned about the
Speaker 1: opinions of others. You know, if this is a family
Speaker 1: on the rocket chair, let's nobody listen to listen. That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's obvious he was disrespected. And to me,
Speaker 1: as a players, still a player, you don't disrespect the coach.
Speaker 1: You do it behind closed doors. It's a way to
Speaker 1: do it, Nate. You're up in here real quick. If
Speaker 1: you guys ever been in situations where you felt like
Speaker 1: your coaches were not putting in the right situation to
Speaker 1: win and how did you handle that? Dude? Well, look,
Speaker 1: look a TV to answer to talk about that. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take it to DeMarco Murray. We just today we
Speaker 1: just heard a story about DeMarco Murray going to the
Speaker 1: owner above the head coach talking about the way he's used.
Speaker 1: Now to me, what you just don't do that, bro,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. You can you cannot do that.
Speaker 1: Now if you say, hey, um um, head coach, I
Speaker 1: want to have a meeting you and the on it.
Speaker 1: We all need to figure this out. Am I gonna
Speaker 1: be here and I mean, what's up? Because I came
Speaker 1: here expecting one thing. But you have, dude, you have
Speaker 1: that conversation a different way. That's all I'm saying. You know,
Speaker 1: to answer answer your question TV. It happens more often
Speaker 1: than not, right, we all feel underused. That's why we're
Speaker 1: NFL players, because facts are, we're cocky and we're overconfident.
Speaker 1: But that's why we got here. Right. So, when you're
Speaker 1: not on the field, you feel like you can be
Speaker 1: on the field. When I was in Seattle, I told
Speaker 1: my thumb the onn a collateral ligament. The first year
Speaker 1: to most people seem like I was a bust. In
Speaker 1: my head, I'm thinking I'm back home. These people have
Speaker 1: to think this new guy from Minnesota who's a hometown
Speaker 1: kid not playing is a bust. And I knew that.
Speaker 1: So my first year was spent basically knowing I was
Speaker 1: gonna get surgery on my thumb. Had a hard cast
Speaker 1: so I couldn't catch the basso. I had doctors call
Speaker 1: me saying, do you need to get your eyes check?
Speaker 1: Do you need contact glasses? Um. So, needless to say,
Speaker 1: my first season in Seattle, I underachieved right tremendously. Second year,
Speaker 1: I go in, I'm healthy, I had to surgery on
Speaker 1: my thumb. I'm thinking to myself, I have to earn
Speaker 1: back respect from this organization, my teammates in this city,
Speaker 1: and I go ham bro We you know, we all
Speaker 1: have that memory of our best training camp. This is
Speaker 1: my best training camp. There was DJ Hackett there. They
Speaker 1: brought in d M branch um, you know, and Mike
Speaker 1: Homegren was like, you know, I like Dan branch She's
Speaker 1: our number one, and I love DJ Hackett. In my head,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, forget that I'm beating out both of them.
Speaker 1: Deon to my guy, like that's one of my best friends.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm about to proof to this team
Speaker 1: that I'm the best receiver. And I'm getting busy. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about weekend and week out. I'm big, I'm swow,
Speaker 1: I'm jumping high, I'm running fast. In my opinion, I
Speaker 1: knew I beat out everybody. And Mike Homegren said, Yo,
Speaker 1: We're gonna have this open competition. Whoever plays the best
Speaker 1: is the number two to the d M. I felt
Speaker 1: like I was number one. Even my teammates was like, yo,
Speaker 1: like you went ham this training camp. I have a
Speaker 1: meeting with Hunger Right for the season. Right had a
Speaker 1: great preseason, getting buckets, scoring touchdowns. It's obvious, right the
Speaker 1: kids in his own my congress is like, listen, you know,
Speaker 1: I know. I said, it's open competition. UM, you know
Speaker 1: you worked hard, you played well. But I like DJ
Speaker 1: Hackett and um, I'm going with Dion Branch and DJ
Speaker 1: Hackett as my starters a week one. Immediately, I'm my
Speaker 1: feelings right, I wanted to pass I want to tip
Speaker 1: tables over been in my head. I'm calm and collective
Speaker 1: because you don't burn bridges, right, you don't disrespect the coach.
Speaker 1: You respect the authority. I'm like, cool for the truth.
Speaker 1: That hurt me like it was. It was so honest
Speaker 1: that it pierced to my heart. But I respected it, right.
Speaker 1: So I walked out, and I'm like, what am I
Speaker 1: gonna do? Week one goes by, we play all right,
Speaker 1: I'm basically playing sub bro. Yeah, a guy gets tired
Speaker 1: here I come. I'm thinking, how can I get on
Speaker 1: this field? Right? They're they're not utilizing me TV, They're
Speaker 1: not putting me in the best position. I feel like
Speaker 1: this team is better when I'm on the field. It's proven.
Speaker 1: I go to special team's coach. I'm like, look, you
Speaker 1: know I haven't returned in years. College, I did a
Speaker 1: little bit, high school did a little bit. I'm not
Speaker 1: even a part returner, to be honest. You know, I
Speaker 1: get lightweight scared when that was in the air, just
Speaker 1: you know, because it's it's Kamakazi. We gotta do an
Speaker 1: episode on that, right, let's trying to put trying to
Speaker 1: feel the punt. Yeah, for real, it's poetry emotion. He's like, well,
Speaker 1: we'll give you a shot. We'll give your shot. Do
Speaker 1: part return. And my thought was, because I felt like
Speaker 1: Seahawks weren't using me. I'm gonna get on the field somehow,
Speaker 1: and this is gonna make everybody aware how much of
Speaker 1: a playmaker I am. And I don't fair catcht I
Speaker 1: thought it was pointless. I get busy. That was a
Speaker 1: year I led the NFL and part return yards. The
Speaker 1: only reason I didn't make the probob because we had
Speaker 1: Devin Hestern. I go going bananas um and then they's like, okay,
Speaker 1: we gotta get the ball on this guy's hands. They
Speaker 1: start utilizing me as receiver more. Once I got the
Speaker 1: ball as a receiver, They're like, hold up, just dude,
Speaker 1: lightweight might be one of our best receivers. Long story short,
Speaker 1: I lead the team in touchdowns, catches, yards, right, I
Speaker 1: had Elevan tds that year, pump return getting busy as receiver,
Speaker 1: I'm getting busy. So there's ways of figuring out how
Speaker 1: to answer the question what can I do to help
Speaker 1: this team? And that was my way when I was
Speaker 1: in Seattle. But I wasn't Adrian Peterson. So sometimes you
Speaker 1: have to come out there and just flat out say it.
Speaker 1: I guarantee you this A p won't have eight carries
Speaker 1: next week. No, he could. He better not because the
Speaker 1: dynamic of that team is they need to running the
Speaker 1: football to win. Because Teddy Bridgewater is not the quarterback
Speaker 1: that's gonna throw them out of it. And they're playing
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. Say, it's just a lot of dynamics
Speaker 1: to it. Now, if he played the quarterback position, this
Speaker 1: may have been looked at a little bit differently. I
Speaker 1: don't think a quarterback should do it. I don't think
Speaker 1: any player ever. You're saying, ever, you should never call
Speaker 1: out the coach my SNeW Listen. What I said earlier
Speaker 1: was if they were in the middle of a six
Speaker 1: game losing streak, something just had to be done. The
Speaker 1: whole world's falling in. Dude, what are they eating for?
Speaker 1: They're writing the thick of it. There's a five seed
Speaker 1: right now. Relax. It was one game. It got out
Speaker 1: of hand. Actually, it needed it busted your bubble a
Speaker 1: little bit. It needed you all to come back down
Speaker 1: on the earth because y'all were riding hot. That's all.
Speaker 1: I was a wake up call. I appreciate. I appreciate
Speaker 1: what you're saying. But um, let's just to disagree. It's
Speaker 1: all good man. We got another weees we are stubborn. Listen,
Speaker 1: uh TV. Let's get back to that hot line. We
Speaker 1: got these callers calling in at callers ill at us.
Speaker 1: This is Mike from New Jersey. UM, I was just
Speaker 1: wanting from guys, what are your top five personal favorite
Speaker 1: rappers of all time? Oh? Oh um. First of all,
Speaker 1: let me say, do you appreciate the hot line? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's dope, man, It's really dope. That's so. This is
Speaker 1: Mike from New Jersey. Shout out to Mike, UM, and
Speaker 1: shout out to Kyler, the first call that asked us
Speaker 1: about the Kanye beating song. Um, but Mike from New Jersey,
Speaker 1: my top five. I can't give an order. No, I
Speaker 1: get it, dog, you know what, No, forget it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give an order. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: rock him right number five And to the old head,
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, why so high? You know he maybe
Speaker 1: should be lower. Um. Big Daddy came and then I'm
Speaker 1: going I'm going I'm going nas jay Z and Pop. Yes,
Speaker 1: I left Biggy out of my top five. No, no dispect.
Speaker 1: I mean it's because only because it's working only two albums,
Speaker 1: and you know he was cut short. Obviously it's all good.
Speaker 1: So that's my top five right there. Pop pop. I mean,
Speaker 1: nobody was in the studio more than him, maybe a
Speaker 1: little way now, but it's all good. Man. Um, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go probably and this is not it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess you put it in order. I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: know the order. Um, but obviously Nas is in there. Um,
Speaker 1: Biggie is in there. Uh, Pocket is in there. Obviously
Speaker 1: those three are star Wars. This is where it gets tricky.
Speaker 1: This is where it gets very very You gotta put
Speaker 1: J in there. You gotta put out to put J
Speaker 1: in there left just for what he's done. And I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna even lie bro. I gotta put scar Face
Speaker 1: in there. I mean people, and people gonna say what
Speaker 1: they want to say, not they gotta respect back the
Speaker 1: nineties rapping, That's where I became a man. Through the nineties.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I kind of grew up. Um,
Speaker 1: everybody got something from Scarface. Everybody bask him. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like asking your top five football players
Speaker 1: are NBA players of all so many individuals. You got
Speaker 1: Luda in Atlanta, who's been doing it for so long,
Speaker 1: who's one of the best features scenes, And I don't
Speaker 1: forgot Andre three, my dog. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's hard for me not to put them in there.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just a lot. But then you got
Speaker 1: Snoop game Drake out out here. It's a lot. Man,
Speaker 1: it's hard. We men, That's what I say. I know
Speaker 1: a lot of times. You know, people like, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: this content doesn't necessarily relate. But he's one of the
Speaker 1: lyric lyrically, lically, he's up there. And then and if
Speaker 1: you're talking about lyrics, it's a lot. I mean common,
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of lyrics. You're talking about lyrics Slaughterhouse.
Speaker 1: Familiar with slaughter House Joe, but Joel Er ties, yeah wow.
Speaker 1: And then my man wants to find nine jo But
Speaker 1: you need to listen slaughter house. You want to motivated
Speaker 1: lyrically to me, little bit of a party. Third, okay, alright,
Speaker 1: black thought, black thought, man, oh man, the roots, Like
Speaker 1: this is why I feel you, dog, I just said,
Speaker 1: I'm not that big of a Joe Buttons. All right,
Speaker 1: I feel you on that. Well, listen, let's talk about
Speaker 1: this m v P. Okay, you know, okay, with whole competition,
Speaker 1: right um, Cam Newton, Cam Cam, That's that's what it is.
Speaker 1: You don't even have to finish the question. You know
Speaker 1: it's Cam Newton. And if it's not Cam Newton, what
Speaker 1: is the definition of the m v P. Mike, we
Speaker 1: got four weeks left though. It's Cam Newton. I don't
Speaker 1: care if they lose the rest of the games. I
Speaker 1: don't care if he's doesn't play the rest of the games.
Speaker 1: It's Cam Newton. Okay. So Mike, I feel what you're saying,
Speaker 1: and I agree right now, it's Cam Newton. You know
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it for a lot of reasons.
Speaker 1: One next week it will be Cam Newton. After the
Speaker 1: week after that will be Cam Newton. And I said
Speaker 1: it on the Sunday showing game day morning. First they
Speaker 1: check me out, dog, I'm gonna keep it real funky
Speaker 1: with you, keep a buck with me. This is the
Speaker 1: greatest and best red zone threat our game has ever seen. Period.
Speaker 1: You know why I say that this is the greatest
Speaker 1: and best red zone threat our game has ever seen.
Speaker 1: And you know why because and we do it. We
Speaker 1: do a segment on our show called numbers and Angles, right,
Speaker 1: and that you know, Nata all comes down the numbers
Speaker 1: and angles. There's four guys over there and we have
Speaker 1: five are gonna run there. You know, it's all numbers
Speaker 1: and angles. Yeah. And when you get down into the
Speaker 1: gold line, because the windows are so small, and because
Speaker 1: he's a ball carrier that can throw in the type windows,
Speaker 1: he truly makes you go eleven on eleven and one
Speaker 1: man will not bring this six ft six avatar down.
Speaker 1: You feel me? And oh oh oh oh, and look
Speaker 1: and look, man, I gotta less some stuff fout. Man.
Speaker 1: I gotta let some stuff out. I gotta let it out, man,
Speaker 1: because I'm tired all these fantasy football people talking about
Speaker 1: you know, my quarterback gotta throw for this many numbers,
Speaker 1: he gotta throw for five thousand yards and break all
Speaker 1: these type of man with all those numbers got paid
Speaker 1: man at one Super Bowl. I got the same amount
Speaker 1: as he did. And I don't have and I don't
Speaker 1: have all those numbers. Hold up. They don't say nothing. Man,
Speaker 1: Let me go, dog, let me go. It's fantasy football
Speaker 1: versus real football, and I need my quarterback and when
Speaker 1: the game is on the line in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: and then overtime to do his thing. I need you
Speaker 1: to be the best when things ain't going right. I
Speaker 1: don't need you to be the best when when when
Speaker 1: we're running for two hundred yards and and and and
Speaker 1: and everybody's wide open. I feel like JAYZ right now,
Speaker 1: keep going free. You know what I'm saying. I'm just saying, no, bro,
Speaker 1: like who else, who else could be the m v P.
Speaker 1: There is no one. There is nobody else. Keep going
Speaker 1: to drop the mic because because because serious business dog
Speaker 1: what he does to a defense the minute the ball
Speaker 1: is snapped. Just watch the ALL twenty two. The minute
Speaker 1: the ball is snapped, all eleven guys, there's that. Keep
Speaker 1: going if you watch the All twenty two, Bro, the
Speaker 1: minute the ball is snapped, all eleven guys on defense, Pauls, Nope,
Speaker 1: they only do it for one other quarterback in this league,
Speaker 1: and that's Russell Wilson. Everybody else, you read a third down,
Speaker 1: I'm dropping his first down. I'm stepping every no matter
Speaker 1: when Cam gets the ball, everybody pauses. And why you're
Speaker 1: Pauls and Greg goes to screaming down the field. You
Speaker 1: got Teddy get who's a journey a journeyman returner touching
Speaker 1: touchdowns like crazy, got enough room to drop a few.
Speaker 1: It's still catch him to win the game. Come on, Nate,
Speaker 1: what is the m v P? Bro? What is the
Speaker 1: m v P? If he don't win it? I don't
Speaker 1: have no faith in the award anymore. What is the
Speaker 1: m v P? Like? Where you going with? Straight up? Bro?
Speaker 1: Not my bad. I'm sweating. I had to get pumped up,
Speaker 1: but I get tired of the carverstation. There is no conversation.
Speaker 1: His number one receiver, gun piece. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He is the number two running back. Now what you say?
Speaker 1: I can't you say? Mike? And basically I was saying
Speaker 1: all year, I don't know if he's gonna be able
Speaker 1: to keep it up. I don't know if he's gonna
Speaker 1: be there to not be sore and still be able
Speaker 1: to throw it. His numbers are getting better. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: what about the other contenders? Brady and Carson are really quick?
Speaker 1: Come on, man or Carson? And I like Brady obviously,
Speaker 1: Brady is what you what you're used to seeing? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean, but Carson is having a resurgence. Bro. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's playing unbelieved. But but but but but but Nate
Speaker 1: the best in the game and take it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna need lie to you, Bro, I ain't
Speaker 1: played quarterback in years, but I can throw some touchdowns
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. Though they got a squaw that while out,
Speaker 1: they got a squad. And think about the number one
Speaker 1: receivers get younger. Number one dbs get older. Think about,
Speaker 1: come on, number one receivers get younger. Number one dbs
Speaker 1: get older. And I'm gonna that check him out one more.
Speaker 1: Slow it down for me. Number one receivers get younger,
Speaker 1: number one dbs get older. That's a quote. You you
Speaker 1: got me about to flip my lip right now? Now
Speaker 1: you go, Now you got that's that's such a good fact.
Speaker 1: We respect our dvs in this league right to roll Rerievers.
Speaker 1: He's done at a high level for so long. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying this that time, but it's getting close. He's
Speaker 1: going up against these young dogs. Nate Mark Cooperate Odell Beckham.
Speaker 1: When I played, I trained with Reevers every off season.
Speaker 1: I've seen his work, Aload, I know what he does.
Speaker 1: I know it's personal training, but I know it's personal coach.
Speaker 1: We talk, he's we fellowship together, we do Bible study.
Speaker 1: And this person I know, the guy in Arizona. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And what I'm saying is it's so draining to play
Speaker 1: press man in this league at a high the highest level.
Speaker 1: He's but that. But these guys coming. But think about it.
Speaker 1: When you win the Super Bowl and you're the number
Speaker 1: one team in the lead, like New England, they're probably
Speaker 1: used to everybody making them their super Bowl. And Durrelle
Speaker 1: Reevers when he see DeAndre Hopkins, when he see Mark
Speaker 1: who all these young guys, that's their super Bowl every
Speaker 1: time in its draining. It is and and and he
Speaker 1: people he's lost the step. And I did a piece
Speaker 1: on him on on a Sunday morning show and I
Speaker 1: showed him getting beat a little bit. It's not that
Speaker 1: he's totally lost it, because you see it in spurts
Speaker 1: when he wants to lock you down. You won't catch
Speaker 1: a pass. I've seen it this year. But he's won
Speaker 1: a super Bowl, He's probably should have won a Defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year. He hadn't won that. He's taking
Speaker 1: teams in the players made over a hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: What are you playing for? You know? I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: what with your motivation to be that lockdown guy? And
Speaker 1: I think some of that may be creeping in. I
Speaker 1: feel you. And just to get back to we talked
Speaker 1: about Carson, but Tom, I feel like sometimes he doesn't
Speaker 1: get the respect he deserves because we're so used to
Speaker 1: him being good. So it's almost like everybody else has
Speaker 1: to be that much better to grab our attention away
Speaker 1: from the accustomed thought of Tom just being Tom. Tom terrific.
Speaker 1: He's been terrif for so long, Like how good does
Speaker 1: he really have to be for us to put him
Speaker 1: back into the thought of m V But but but see
Speaker 1: for me for me, because Tom does play well lately,
Speaker 1: But if you'd be struggling, because if you take cams
Speaker 1: to me, if you take Cam in this year, they're
Speaker 1: doing something magical in Caroline. You take Cam out of
Speaker 1: the equation, it's obvious it's Tom Brady. It's obvious it's
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. But I just think when you look at
Speaker 1: this Carolina Panther team, Dude, it's something special coming over there.
Speaker 1: It's something shout. I like, I like what Ron Rivera
Speaker 1: is doing over there, bro, everything is all I know,
Speaker 1: my bad. You know I couldn't get it out. I
Speaker 1: know you saw that yesterday round. I don't ask me,
Speaker 1: but shout out to out out to Cam undefeated and
Speaker 1: shout out to Steph Curry. Oh yeah with the risk boy,
Speaker 1: and listen TV. I know we got another person calling in,
Speaker 1: so let me get one more hotline question. Hey, this
Speaker 1: is Daniel from Seattle. My question is, how does the
Speaker 1: NFL or how does college prepare you for being treated
Speaker 1: like a commodity by the public with fantasy football and
Speaker 1: the way that the media handles players. How how to
Speaker 1: do teams prepare you for that? Or you know, how
Speaker 1: do you deal with that? I got a quick answer
Speaker 1: to that. I got a quick answer to that. Um,
Speaker 1: if you're in college right now, you listening to the
Speaker 1: R and B podcast, you're you're any type of a player.
Speaker 1: Hear me. The fact that you're not making six figures
Speaker 1: right now, that should be getting you ready because you're
Speaker 1: bringing a lot of money for these universities, You're bringing
Speaker 1: a lot of income for the n C double A.
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying that, uh necessarily you should
Speaker 1: be making but how are you prepared for it, Mike,
Speaker 1: these guys can't no prepared. They can't no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we weren't prepared. They can't be millionaires years old. Well, well,
Speaker 1: now that that's that, that's going to something totally different,
Speaker 1: because I when we weren't prepared to be looked at
Speaker 1: as commodities. We weren't prepared. Let's let's admit that to
Speaker 1: the public. No, I'm gonna say this once you get
Speaker 1: in it and you understand the business side of it.
Speaker 1: My first contract renegotiations went something like this, Nate, we
Speaker 1: like you, you have a great spirit, you say the
Speaker 1: right things in the media. The city loves you. But
Speaker 1: and that, but came with a list of things why
Speaker 1: they shouldn't pay me. That's the first time I understood
Speaker 1: that I'm not just an NFL player. I'm an employee
Speaker 1: for a company who wants to replace and they want
Speaker 1: to get me for the cheapest price. I understood at
Speaker 1: that point, I'm a commodity. So what am I gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the hottest commodity this city has seen.
Speaker 1: So I started to dive myself into every community that
Speaker 1: I was in. I started to make alliances with the
Speaker 1: fans in the stadium. So if you wanted to get
Speaker 1: rid of me, guess what you're gonna have to answer
Speaker 1: questions from people that want me there. I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to answer that on the next on the next show,
Speaker 1: because I got some heat for you. You You got some heat,
Speaker 1: always got heat. I got some real heat for you
Speaker 1: on that one man. Alright, alright, you know well, um
Speaker 1: t d the clothes. The show was closing. Can we
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