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Speaker 1: what kind of quarterback do you want on the field,
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Speaker 1: let me stop playing. Let's get into it. Bro So listen, quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: what do you like as a quarterback? And I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about on the field. We've played with great quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: You've played with great quarterbacks. We're talking personality. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to know from you, Mike, right now, what do
Speaker 1: you like when you're getting the huddle? What don't you
Speaker 1: like when you get in the huddle, And what do
Speaker 1: you like when you're in the locker room? And what
Speaker 1: don't you like when you're in the locker room? First
Speaker 1: of all, that huddle, you know, it's just us. And
Speaker 1: I always think about on an away game, we had
Speaker 1: a we had a model with Seattle. We all we got,
Speaker 1: we all we need is just us, eleven guys. I
Speaker 1: need to say it again, say it slower so people
Speaker 1: get here. All we got, we all we need? Right
Speaker 1: when I when when that quarterback walks into the hole,
Speaker 1: when I used to walk into the holler? When I
Speaker 1: play a quarterback and Penn state when I when Russell
Speaker 1: walked into the weather? Was Russell? Alex Smith, Trent dif
Speaker 1: all the guys I've played with, you need two come
Speaker 1: across as believable. I need you to believe in this play.
Speaker 1: I need you to come across as confident because literally
Speaker 1: the team, the offense especially takes its identity from your
Speaker 1: quarterback most of the time. And I need my quarterback
Speaker 1: to exude all of that. If you if we're a tough,
Speaker 1: physical team, Yeah, you need to walk out there with
Speaker 1: you know, it looks like your big boy pants or
Speaker 1: rolled up like you ready for a fight. And I
Speaker 1: need a guy that's gonna go out there and fight.
Speaker 1: Now you talk about off the wait wait, wait no,
Speaker 1: because let me get my two senses were. Don't take
Speaker 1: a piece by piece, you know, because I want them
Speaker 1: to hear what I gotta say about being in the huddle.
Speaker 1: You're talking from a perspective of a guy who used
Speaker 1: to play quarterback then went to playing running back. So
Speaker 1: that's what you like. I'm very similar play receiver, right,
Speaker 1: and when I walk in the huddle, I would always
Speaker 1: think this could possibly be my play, and whoever throwing
Speaker 1: me the ball better have the most confidence. Swag wasn't
Speaker 1: even in our Urban dictionary and oh three, so we
Speaker 1: weren't talking about swag. I need somebody that's confident, and
Speaker 1: to be honest, Mike, I need somebody that's cocky. I mean,
Speaker 1: I wanted to spill over remember the old gatoray slogan.
Speaker 1: Is it in you? Like? That's what I want to know.
Speaker 1: Is it in you? Like you said? If he's coming
Speaker 1: in and calling the play, I wanted them to look
Speaker 1: at everybody's eyes and when I connect with him. I
Speaker 1: see a dude that believes in the moment more than anybody.
Speaker 1: So if there is any doubt in my mind about
Speaker 1: to play, if there's any doubt an offensive alignment about
Speaker 1: what their responsibilities are, they're running back. I need him
Speaker 1: to be very convincing because sometimes you know, like I know,
Speaker 1: you don't get the best call. Sometimes it's they start
Speaker 1: the sentence he trips white, You're like, oh, here we
Speaker 1: go again. On the side by they're gonna roll cover. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm on the backside. I'm a decor or why would
Speaker 1: you call this on third and three? Right? These are
Speaker 1: all these thoughts going within the Splits moment. But my
Speaker 1: quarterback can change all that with how he looks, how
Speaker 1: he delivers. It's almost like being a confident talking to
Speaker 1: a chick. Like if you're if you're walking around with
Speaker 1: that confidence and you say something that's light weight, it's
Speaker 1: gonna hit her like a heavyweight. Same thing in the huddle.
Speaker 1: I want this to do. To look at me and
Speaker 1: be like, yo, here's what we got. Was that how
Speaker 1: Dante was That that was exactly and that man is
Speaker 1: who exactly I was describing. Dante. Copepper was one of
Speaker 1: the most confident players I've ever been with him. He
Speaker 1: real confidence. Yeah, listen, he stabbed these He stabbed these
Speaker 1: get togethers at his house. Well you got, you got,
Speaker 1: It's all couples was invited. He's the cater to food.
Speaker 1: We got pool going on, we got poker going on.
Speaker 1: He got a court winner shooting free throws from money
Speaker 1: cats is losing anywhere from five dollars to five thousands
Speaker 1: to a couple hunted bands, which is two people don't
Speaker 1: know bands is right. You gotta write some checks or
Speaker 1: some io us. But with all that said, it was
Speaker 1: very competitive atmosphere on the field at a charity basketball game,
Speaker 1: playing golf man, we could be doing hot Scotch. Dante
Speaker 1: be like you, Benna, believe that I'm the best in
Speaker 1: the world. Oc ocalo on mine better believe Dante is
Speaker 1: the best in the world. And that confidence was something
Speaker 1: that was so contagious. Bro with staff is Stafford like
Speaker 1: that keeps He's not He's We're gonna keep it funking. No,
Speaker 1: he's different. He's a different dude. When he gets in
Speaker 1: the huddle. He doesn't need to say that, but he
Speaker 1: feels like he can make any throw in the world.
Speaker 1: So I'll give you a couple examples of the two individuals.
Speaker 1: Story time, camp fire football. Here we go, Dante. When
Speaker 1: I was having my best year and Randy Moss went
Speaker 1: down with a hamstring, I was still comfortable with being
Speaker 1: a number two. I was a number two most of
Speaker 1: my career and I flourished in that. When Randy went down,
Speaker 1: he started talking to me like I was Randy Moss.
Speaker 1: Was I Randy Moss? No? But we get in the
Speaker 1: huddle and give me that one and be like, hey, hey, Nate,
Speaker 1: I'm coming to you. We have to line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: He surveyed the field, see what's going on? He look over.
Speaker 1: Give me that nod, just like you give ane when
Speaker 1: you're passing somebody in the street and you tip your hat. Hey,
Speaker 1: how are you doing? That? Was his not to me,
Speaker 1: brom coming to you get busy first few times, nervousness, anxiety.
Speaker 1: Halfway through the season, I'm giving a nod to him. Brot, Hey, whoop?
Speaker 1: Mis match all because he is steal that in me.
Speaker 1: Now let's go to Stafford. He gets in the huddle,
Speaker 1: he'll say something real slick, like, hey, boys, can't nobody
Speaker 1: stop us let's go ire and get it. Very understated
Speaker 1: with his words, very selective with his words. But then
Speaker 1: he'll go out there Sam running the scene route for
Speaker 1: most people that don't know that, it's the guy in
Speaker 1: the slide. He's running like the inside edge of the numbers.
Speaker 1: The nickelback is guarding me. He was on the inside
Speaker 1: where the quarterback is. I'm not open. I'm not open.
Speaker 1: I look back. I see him cocking that thing. I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: is he going to the guy outside? Bro? He lets
Speaker 1: this ball rip, and in my head, split seconds within
Speaker 1: the game, I'm thinking, Bro, this ball is coming. So
Speaker 1: I'm running. I'm trying not to give my eyes because
Speaker 1: if I get my eyes in my hands, dB is
Speaker 1: gonna play both. So I'm running. Mind you, the dB
Speaker 1: is looking back at Stafford when he winds up and
Speaker 1: throws his ball. Why would you? I'm thinking, why would
Speaker 1: you throw this ball? And the DB's looking at you,
Speaker 1: ball zips past his head. I catch it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: WHOA what a pass? I go back to staff I'm like, Bro,
Speaker 1: when a sideline? Hey, what would compel you to throw
Speaker 1: a ball like that? When that dB was looking at
Speaker 1: you and I wasn't two or three yards open. He said,
Speaker 1: I knew I can get that ball in your hands
Speaker 1: before he turned his head around. Mm hmm. Now it's
Speaker 1: not him saying, you know, I'm the best in the business.
Speaker 1: You're on the illness quarterback. That small sentence to me
Speaker 1: gave me goose bumps because I'm thinking, this is a
Speaker 1: gun slinger in the true definition of that, because not
Speaker 1: a lot of qbs would take that shot. A lot
Speaker 1: of qubs be like my guys, not open. A lot
Speaker 1: of qubs won't throw out a dB if they make
Speaker 1: eye contact. That's Stafford. Let that thing go. And I thought,
Speaker 1: this is the dude I want to ride with. Let's
Speaker 1: see what I took from your two stories, Nate and I.
Speaker 1: Both of those quarterbacks I think are good in their
Speaker 1: own right. Is I would probably want to play for
Speaker 1: the first guy in Dante Calpepper because he did things
Speaker 1: you talked. Just just look at what what came to
Speaker 1: memory when you talked about talked about both guys and leadership,
Speaker 1: because that's what we're talking about, you know, leadership and essence. Okay,
Speaker 1: you talked about Dante um having people over, galvinizing, bringing
Speaker 1: people together. That's winning culture, that's bring that that's bringing
Speaker 1: the guys together and and and connecting you on ways
Speaker 1: that the football field can't. Your memory of Stafford was
Speaker 1: a football member and to me, to me, it's not
Speaker 1: like we didn't kick it. But I'm not saying you
Speaker 1: didn't said how many parties at his house? Like saying
Speaker 1: it didn't happen all. I'm saying that, And that's to
Speaker 1: me that's important because I love Alex Smith. But I
Speaker 1: played with Alex Smith early in my career. When he
Speaker 1: stepped in the huddle, I'm literally my rookie year. I
Speaker 1: had not played it down in this league, but as
Speaker 1: soon as he stepped in the league, as soon as
Speaker 1: he stepped in the huddle, I'm saying, WHOA, we're gonna lose.
Speaker 1: I didn't believe him. I didn't believe him. In again,
Speaker 1: I was fresh off of being a quarterback. And it
Speaker 1: ain't it knock to Alex. Know it's not a knock.
Speaker 1: And I haven't been in a huddle with Alex for years.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's different now. You know, I saw Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson his rookie year when when he stepped in the huddle,
Speaker 1: and you know you can Matt Flynn kind of over
Speaker 1: the shoulder, man, because he's stepping in the first team model.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You see Russell stepping on
Speaker 1: the huddle, he's uh stuttering this set of thing. You're like, damn,
Speaker 1: we definitely got us a rookie. How we're gonna get
Speaker 1: through this. Now. You saw the grow through the season,
Speaker 1: and then that next year we won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: He's stepping in the huddle, laughing like her, y'all boys ready,
Speaker 1: huh He's he's rubbing his hands together. Made you feel
Speaker 1: good and you're sitting there like, oh, something special, We're
Speaker 1: fenna do something special again. It's just you saw the
Speaker 1: growth of the guy. You talk about quarterbacks, you know,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. He's that cool, that calmness that I mean,
Speaker 1: that that confidence that's just like, man, I can see
Speaker 1: that my quarterback is so good that just the fact
Speaker 1: that he's out there, it's confidence to me. We're in
Speaker 1: the news right now, your boy, Johnny Manzell. Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't know from a demeanor standpoint or from a leadership standpoint,
Speaker 1: if I can have this guy as I starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about front office, Nate, I'm not
Speaker 1: talking about front office. I'm not talking about coach. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about from a player, right because for you to
Speaker 1: first of all make a statement and say that you're
Speaker 1: just gonna do this and you say you're just gonna
Speaker 1: chill on your on your bye week, just getting it
Speaker 1: out there. He said if you last week that for
Speaker 1: his bottle when the video came out of him, you're right.
Speaker 1: And look, we agree he may not have had a drink.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't necessarily no, I don't know know,
Speaker 1: but he may not have had anything. But from if
Speaker 1: I'm a player on the on the Cleveland Browns right now,
Speaker 1: I gotta think, Hey, if my quarterback doesn't have the
Speaker 1: go okay to say, let me think about this before
Speaker 1: I before I let this guy with this cell phone
Speaker 1: videotape me and I played to the camera. Let me
Speaker 1: think about this before I. I don't care whether you're
Speaker 1: supporting the sampagne company. I don't care what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Let me think about this because I am in the
Speaker 1: public eye. I do live in a microscope. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I can't help you. I got you. So you're just
Speaker 1: saying the decision not to be in that situation that
Speaker 1: saw all. I'm saying. I'm not saying, don't have to
Speaker 1: see where different. We're different, Mike, because I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care what you do. I don't care what
Speaker 1: you do off the field. It's longer's on Sundays. You
Speaker 1: come in with it. That's me, that's my personality, just
Speaker 1: like I hope you don't care what I do as
Speaker 1: long as when I show up and I put that
Speaker 1: jersey on and we click clack them buttons on the
Speaker 1: side of our helmet, you're looking at me like, are
Speaker 1: you ready to go? Cool? Because when that play pops off,
Speaker 1: those six seconds the average play less six seconds. I
Speaker 1: ain't thinking about what I did this weekend. I can't
Speaker 1: even remember what I ate for breakfast. I'm so locked
Speaker 1: in the moment. So why would I care what you
Speaker 1: need on your biley? Let me check check this out,
Speaker 1: Check this out, check this out. On Wednesday, they put
Speaker 1: a new play in for you. Right, you're a little hurt,
Speaker 1: You're a little banged up because you had a tough
Speaker 1: Sunday coach, says Nate. For this one play, man, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna need I'm gonna need a rep. I'm gonna need
Speaker 1: a game rep out of you. My guy behind this center.
Speaker 1: He needs to see you because it needs just this
Speaker 1: is our time and day. Okay, you go out there
Speaker 1: and you do. And my point of saying that is
Speaker 1: what you do during the week, what you do in
Speaker 1: the past will affects on Sunday. And I say that
Speaker 1: because I say that because your coach is answering questions
Speaker 1: about it. Players are gonna have to answer questions about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't really care really what my quarterback does or
Speaker 1: Johnny manzel does in this free time, but I do
Speaker 1: care when it's taken energy away from my head coach,
Speaker 1: who should be having his head on our defensive scheme
Speaker 1: and our last ranked run defense because our coaches answering
Speaker 1: questions about Johnny. Now, now my coach has to answer
Speaker 1: questions about our future because Josh McCall definitely ain't ain't
Speaker 1: the future. And so now I have to put Johnny
Speaker 1: Manzela's third, second or third on the depth chart because
Speaker 1: he made a stupid decision and now I can't truly
Speaker 1: evaluate him for our future. I got you, I got you.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying. You see how all these
Speaker 1: decisions start to pile up on each other and not
Speaker 1: that is issue with Johnny manziel Man. Like, dude, you
Speaker 1: have to think more than that. You have to think
Speaker 1: past just the gratification of being in this club and
Speaker 1: people being able to take pictures of you. You have
Speaker 1: to think past the fact that, yeah, I'm twenty two,
Speaker 1: I'm twenty three years old. That's my excuse the party
Speaker 1: and mess up man and listen, it ain't his excuse.
Speaker 1: It's the reason bro like, he's a rock star. If
Speaker 1: Johnny's a rock star, then let him live that Mike.
Speaker 1: I played for eleven years and there were times I
Speaker 1: thought this is the illest job on her. You score
Speaker 1: a touchdown, sixty five thousand people get on their feet.
Speaker 1: You go to the restaurant, Hey, how are you doing,
Speaker 1: Mr Broson. We're for today, but I got you. Let
Speaker 1: me clean off the table. Love it. Somebody tips his
Speaker 1: glass to you. Next thing, you know, your bills covered.
Speaker 1: You walk into a club in Vegas, lines out the door,
Speaker 1: the bounce to recognize you'd be like, bro, I've been
Speaker 1: a fan. I love what you do in the community.
Speaker 1: Come on in rock star lifestyle. Not make it hate
Speaker 1: Nate n n oh just because he's a quarterback. When
Speaker 1: that Johnny was a dB. Will we be having this conversation? No? No, Okay, then,
Speaker 1: so why do we put all this pressure on quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that they can because they make twenty million dollars a year, Nate.
Speaker 1: That's why. That's why I put the pressure on him. Okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: With that comes responsibility. Bro. You can't sit out here
Speaker 1: and make the job that we do. Agree with that
Speaker 1: I agree with. You just can't do. There are certain
Speaker 1: things about this conversation. I don't agree, but I will
Speaker 1: agree with you on this. You are saying that because
Speaker 1: it is the quarterback position, you're held to a higher
Speaker 1: stand have to be. It's period, it's different. And he
Speaker 1: and Johnny manziel knew that when he was in college
Speaker 1: and he signed some things and he got suspended. We
Speaker 1: all signed some stuff. Why did Johnny gets suspended because
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying, because he's a quarterback, because
Speaker 1: he's Johnny manziel Okay, and ain't going back to their
Speaker 1: lifestyle thing? Isn't that our problem? Isn't that the issue?
Speaker 1: Guys get Guys fall in love with the rock star status,
Speaker 1: they fall in love with the group. Is they fall
Speaker 1: in love with the with the lines of girls outside
Speaker 1: the hotels, they fall in love with all the likes
Speaker 1: on social media and things like that. Which one of
Speaker 1: those skills are sustainable. Which one of those things are sustainable,
Speaker 1: none of them. But but actually actually having perspective, actually
Speaker 1: think with with within within the rock star life perspective,
Speaker 1: actually having perspective thinking, hey, maybe I don't do this
Speaker 1: because I'm I may not start again if I go out,
Speaker 1: if I go to this club tonight, of course they're
Speaker 1: gonna be cameras that I'm Johnny Man's that I am
Speaker 1: a rock star. Have a party at your house, and
Speaker 1: make sure all the cell phones stay in the stay
Speaker 1: at the front, at the front of that true checked themselves.
Speaker 1: I get you as facts. All right, Well, we're gonna
Speaker 1: touch on some more quarterbacks and personal we would like
Speaker 1: to play with. But TD, let me get some oh
Speaker 1: let's take let's just think about this room. It sounds
Speaker 1: like your boy justin bieb. You know we got a
Speaker 1: little pops to okay, uh hey listen, yeah, we're talking quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to slack, like getting dressed stuff. Get it.
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to slack. If I give you my money,
Speaker 1: then give me my quarterback made just keep it popping
Speaker 1: on stopping. I'm just rocking, doing my thing. I'm always clocking.
Speaker 1: I got the only hyping. Actually it's perpetual. Anybody want
Speaker 1: to trip baby growling? A lectural an electual. That's what
Speaker 1: I meant to say. I don't say what games spit? Oh,
Speaker 1: game spit. Yeah, so a lot of music is playing.
Speaker 1: I'm just passing knowledge. Yeah, game spitter. It's kind of like,
Speaker 1: did he did he be dropping knowledge? Hey? Man, you
Speaker 1: got him paid? Still get damned. We'll talk about that
Speaker 1: a little later. So now we're gonna stick to this.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be a quarterback driven podcast. Um, let's
Speaker 1: stick to it. Now, you got you got quarterbacks. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just through if you out there, there's times in
Speaker 1: the league obviously, um Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Cam Newton,
Speaker 1: Okay Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, Jamis Winston. Just off of
Speaker 1: pure thought and guys that you haven't heard me say.
Speaker 1: Right in that collection of individuals, who would you want
Speaker 1: to play for play with? I mean we're looking at
Speaker 1: the entire No, I don't give me all that, do
Speaker 1: not you heard the names. I'm just saying answer the
Speaker 1: question more personality wise. I mean, you know what you
Speaker 1: you talk about personality. It's hard to go against Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: It just is um. It seems like he stays uh.
Speaker 1: It seems like the mindset of being that sixth round
Speaker 1: pick waiting for his name to be called has never
Speaker 1: left him in his in his weird because usually when
Speaker 1: guys get paid, the humility goes away. Usually, when guys
Speaker 1: get paid, the drive goes away. Usually, when the m
Speaker 1: v p s come in, the drive goes away. The
Speaker 1: Super Bowl wins come in, the drive goes away. This
Speaker 1: guy seems to always have a chip on his shoulder. Okay,
Speaker 1: he seems to always respond to adversity. Again in our game,
Speaker 1: two things that are guaranteed as injury and adversity, and
Speaker 1: this guy continues, continues and continues and continues to overcome adversity.
Speaker 1: You take away his best receiver, I'm still gonna beat you.
Speaker 1: So take away my best back. I'm still gonna beat you.
Speaker 1: That is that because you footballs up, you pumped my
Speaker 1: footballs up. I'm still gonna beat you. It don't matter. Allegedly,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Patriots for the alleged alleged
Speaker 1: leness that's been going on for years. But straight up,
Speaker 1: so listen, you know TV got some notes on here. Um,
Speaker 1: So here's some attachments to some of these names. Brady Cold, Rivers,
Speaker 1: Fiery Rogers, cool cam Swag, Jamie's charismatic, Johnny Manziel unserious
Speaker 1: maybe like Russell Wilson, Let's play Okay, so Johnny Manziel
Speaker 1: is in mature, Let's play the name game, you know,
Speaker 1: or you know, I muna say something. You just whatever
Speaker 1: pops in your head. Man, don't do me like this.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Um Square Kaepernick, No, no, no, I feel
Speaker 1: you know it's not It's not in a bad way
Speaker 1: like Square in the sense of a guy that does
Speaker 1: everything or everything. And I know he's probably heard it
Speaker 1: a thousand times fold, but I've watched commercials and to
Speaker 1: be honest, I'll be like, yo, I'll let him marry
Speaker 1: my daughter, like like, that's that's the kind of guy
Speaker 1: you want. There's probably men out there, like, you know,
Speaker 1: I would like him to date my daughter, you know,
Speaker 1: like that's the that's the one you would want sitting
Speaker 1: that sitting next to you at Thanksgiving. Not so not
Speaker 1: squaring a bad way you know, I'm not trying to like,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever. You can describe it as you whatever
Speaker 1: you want. But that was kind of funny though. Kaepernick.
Speaker 1: Oh um, oh, just from what I see, I don't
Speaker 1: really know him, and that that well, you're gonna stop
Speaker 1: prefacing all this. I would say, weird. Socially weird, socially awkward. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just because I mean, you see that, you see the
Speaker 1: press conference, and I know a lot of that. He's
Speaker 1: trying to you know, be do whatever to it, maybe
Speaker 1: refrained from saying things you don't want to say. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but do you think there's a social disconnect between him
Speaker 1: and his squad? No, he has a social issue. Socially awkward. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I know this for a fact. I used to
Speaker 1: play there and I didn't play with him, but you
Speaker 1: know I still got guys, just trust me. I know. Well,
Speaker 1: this is this is walking around the building with your
Speaker 1: headphones on the whole time and not talk to anybody
Speaker 1: and say that you're the quarterback. That's a social disconnect.
Speaker 1: That's the team and organization you're right now, But don't
Speaker 1: want that either, Okay, that's not cool when you're a family.
Speaker 1: That's just like my son, he walking around with his
Speaker 1: phone all day, might slap it out us in and
Speaker 1: be like they put that we at dinner, don't you
Speaker 1: don't you reach in your pocket and grab that phone
Speaker 1: bro headphones And now she's crazy. You can't even lock
Speaker 1: a door around here. Get a whooping old school hey
Speaker 1: listen though, Um okay, So we're gonna a couple more
Speaker 1: and then we're gonna keep talking about this. Peyton Manning,
Speaker 1: Eli Manning, You which one would I want? Are you
Speaker 1: talking about words to describe them both? Which one would
Speaker 1: I want? I want Eli? Yes, I want? Okay, not
Speaker 1: right now, at the height of their careers. At the
Speaker 1: height of their career, Eli was winning. Excuse my language,
Speaker 1: but you are a damn fool kidding me. Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: at the height of his career, one of the most
Speaker 1: surrepal intelligent quarterbacks in this game that can drop back
Speaker 1: and hit you with a floater, or he can drop
Speaker 1: it on the dime, which I call loose chain all
Speaker 1: over the field. You play fantasy football. I don't play
Speaker 1: fantasy food. Peyton has always been a fantasy It's not
Speaker 1: a numbers thing to men. Yes it is, because if
Speaker 1: it was a championship thing, the numbers. Say, Eli, you
Speaker 1: won a championship. That's important to you, so you want
Speaker 1: whoa whoa whoa. Don't saying, Nate that you know I'm
Speaker 1: gonna jump on it. Are you telling me you didn't
Speaker 1: play this game to win championships? No, I played the
Speaker 1: winning game exactly. So I'm just now, how are you
Speaker 1: gonna say that Eli, because he got one more championship
Speaker 1: than his brother, is a better quarterback. Now, let's let's
Speaker 1: keep it all real. This's the podcast. They're both really quarterback.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying something to describe him as great. I
Speaker 1: know for sure Payton is a living legend. Eli got
Speaker 1: some time to go because I'm now taking nothing away
Speaker 1: from Peyton. All I'm saying is I need my quarterback
Speaker 1: to perform when things don't go right. I need my
Speaker 1: quarterback at his best. You're saying that at the at
Speaker 1: the biggest part of that birthday, and that's playoffs, Nate.
Speaker 1: But you're playoffs. We're saying that because you guys beat
Speaker 1: the breaks off of the Bronx has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with me. I felt like this before I played the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Where did Peyton win? In college? He was the number one,
Speaker 1: He was one of the number one pick. Did he
Speaker 1: win a national title? No? Did Eli? No? Okay, you
Speaker 1: on the Super Bowl two of them? Alright, cool, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's why we play this game. You're right,
Speaker 1: I mean the stuff we just don't agree on, which
Speaker 1: which is why the reason why R and B exists.
Speaker 1: We can talk all day about that. Uh TD, Do
Speaker 1: I gotta be because I kind of want something or
Speaker 1: do you want to bring in some conversation. We got
Speaker 1: Ryan coming here in a second. But before we get
Speaker 1: to them, just really quick, what do you guys thinking
Speaker 1: about Jami's. You know, he know live won a couple
Speaker 1: of games here in the row. He's ready to beat
Speaker 1: in the huddle? What do you guys to his question?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you like this
Speaker 1: that one of the most charismatic dudes I've ever seen. Okay,
Speaker 1: um And the thing about Jami's and I had a
Speaker 1: chance to be around him at the rookie suppose him, Nate,
Speaker 1: It's so natural. He does not try to be cool.
Speaker 1: Whatever he comes Listen, he comes in, he's with that
Speaker 1: big old smile. He may crack a joke and everybody
Speaker 1: just start laughing and you just want to be around him.
Speaker 1: He's a quarterback. I would love to play for speaking
Speaker 1: of that, the charismatic attitude of this young man. We
Speaker 1: have a locker room speech that we got audio of.
Speaker 1: Let's run that. That's how you overcome adversity. I told
Speaker 1: you the team that wanted the most was gonna pull
Speaker 1: that game off. That we keep doing that. We keep
Speaker 1: doing that. The wake up all we got. Then we
Speaker 1: have each other back, we go seminar. Hey, bro listen,
Speaker 1: he's first of all, let's just speak clear. He's a rookie.
Speaker 1: Rookies don't do that. Rookies don't take command to locker
Speaker 1: rooms like that. Um. You hear the collapse in the background,
Speaker 1: was just about hype about it. While he's talking almost
Speaker 1: like a pastor preaching in church. People enthused, locked in.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's good stuff right there. I talk about this,
Speaker 1: I talk about this. UM. The same thing with coaches, UM,
Speaker 1: leaders on on your team or quarterbacks are the same way. Okay,
Speaker 1: there are people out here, Nate, who understand how to
Speaker 1: have conversations. But then there are people out here who
Speaker 1: understand how to speak the men. Okay, there are certain
Speaker 1: coaches who don't really understand how to speak the men.
Speaker 1: They're certain coaches who do. The successful ones understand jamis
Speaker 1: that speech where we just heard, that's a young kid
Speaker 1: speaking to men. That's a young man. That's a young
Speaker 1: man speaking to the souls of men in that locker room.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying, and he's speaking just you
Speaker 1: can hear it in his voice. It's like, man, I'm
Speaker 1: in the bunker with you, just because I played quarterback
Speaker 1: on me and it's separated. I'm in the bunker with you.
Speaker 1: And that's what you want. You want to You want
Speaker 1: a quarterback who is out there fighting right along aside you.
Speaker 1: The future is so bright, young man in that organization.
Speaker 1: They did the right thing about picking Jamie's He fits
Speaker 1: the mode of where they want to go. All right,
Speaker 1: So next up we have an interview too, that is
Speaker 1: something that everybody should pay attention to. Joining us is
Speaker 1: the director of Creed, which comes out this Thursday. This
Speaker 1: dude is a very very special young African American talent.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna text him now. So as we're transitioned into
Speaker 1: our interview with them, check out what Felicia was shot.
Speaker 1: Mix Huxtable as we know Michael Jordan's and of course
Speaker 1: Sylvester Stallone had to say about Ryan Coogler and just
Speaker 1: how talented he is. Ryan Coogler is one of the
Speaker 1: most interesting people I've met in a very long time.
Speaker 1: From provailed to this one. A couple of the projects
Speaker 1: that we have that we're working on to do together.
Speaker 1: I found my counterpartning and director that that really understands us,
Speaker 1: that understands me, and and vice versa. He's one of
Speaker 1: those sorts of types of directors that will be the
Speaker 1: director that is a real autour, real author, and that's
Speaker 1: hard to do. His knowledge is fast, his vision very
Speaker 1: broad and deep. Oh man, we're gonna talk about inspirational. Man. Listen.
Speaker 1: We are joined by a very very special guest, Young
Speaker 1: award winning You could say he's gonna come up there,
Speaker 1: I would just say he's here, But there, man, he's
Speaker 1: knocking down the doors. Corrector of Creed, Ryan Coogler is
Speaker 1: joining the R and B Podcast. We are humble to
Speaker 1: introduce you. Thank you, sir for joining us to be
Speaker 1: on the on the line with you guys. Man, We're
Speaker 1: really really exciting. It's exciting to you what you guys
Speaker 1: have done your careers man, and transition in the media.
Speaker 1: You know, it's really really, really exciting, so of a
Speaker 1: far up to be on here with you guys. Appreciate it, man,
Speaker 1: Appreciate it. Man. This this real Mike rob Man, and
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna jump right into it, bro, jump right
Speaker 1: into it. Man. Look, obviously weren't born when the Rocky
Speaker 1: series came out, you know, but talk about how this
Speaker 1: franchise has has affected to your life. Talk about from
Speaker 1: your experiences as a childhood, from your childhood and how
Speaker 1: it went into this movie. Yeah, you know, I'm from
Speaker 1: I'm from Oakland, California. Man. I was really real fortunate
Speaker 1: that I had had a had great parents and my
Speaker 1: dad mom got married young and had me young. And
Speaker 1: I grew up watching these movies. It was my dad's,
Speaker 1: my dad's favorite favorite movies. And uh, I can't remember
Speaker 1: not knowing, you know, who Rocky ball Boy was, who
Speaker 1: Apollo Creed was, because I was always I was always
Speaker 1: watching and and and what my my pops would do.
Speaker 1: He got me and my little brothers in the playing sports,
Speaker 1: you know, real early, you know, whenever I had like
Speaker 1: a football game and Pop Warner, you know, high school
Speaker 1: he'll say, hey, Sam man, why she whych a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes? It is rocky right quick up, you know. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he would always he would always cry, you know,
Speaker 1: uh at certain parts of it. He'll jump out of
Speaker 1: the out of the off the college and get and
Speaker 1: get fired up at certain parts. And I always wondered,
Speaker 1: you know that was you know, my dad was real strong,
Speaker 1: and he was he was knowing out here and he's
Speaker 1: talking for being a great athlete, you know, and he's
Speaker 1: still you know, still still was still a strong enough
Speaker 1: to hold me in one hand and picked me up
Speaker 1: and carry me around, you know. Uh. So I always wondered,
Speaker 1: you know what these movies kind of kind of had
Speaker 1: over him to make him, to make him become so
Speaker 1: you know, so so emotional while watching him. Uh. And
Speaker 1: when I got older, you know, he told me about
Speaker 1: how he used to watch the movies with his mom
Speaker 1: when she was sickening and dying dying of breast cancer.
Speaker 1: You know. Um she she died with my dad was
Speaker 1: eighteen and so I never got a chance to meet her.
Speaker 1: But but you know it was cool to though. That
Speaker 1: was just it was just uh, it was this uh
Speaker 1: legacy that was kind of passed down this this tradition
Speaker 1: that that that he was you know, that that he
Speaker 1: was passing down without really even being conscious of it.
Speaker 1: And then, um, you know, and then when I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I played football. I went to sacrament On State. We know, bro,
Speaker 1: we know and and and uh, you know got I
Speaker 1: got accepted in the in the graduate school for for
Speaker 1: filmmaking after my last year. So I went down to
Speaker 1: l A. You know, did that. And I was funny
Speaker 1: because my dad didn't want me to do it. He
Speaker 1: wanted me to keep playing. He wanted to keep in.
Speaker 1: He wanted me to keep playing football. He didn't understand uh,
Speaker 1: you know, paying all that money moving to l A
Speaker 1: to do something that he couldn't that he couldn't really
Speaker 1: he didn't really eating really handing out you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Uh. Sorry, that was a big, big fight.
Speaker 1: We got into it, man, but but he was still supportive.
Speaker 1: And and uh and when I when I was getting
Speaker 1: done with with school, getting ready to make proovill, you know,
Speaker 1: my dad got really really sick. Uh. And yeah, he
Speaker 1: he like attracted a neural musclar disease where um where
Speaker 1: he uh, he was having trouble like his muscles were
Speaker 1: atrophi and basically it skeletal muscles were astro fit, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, somebodyeople I knew it was being
Speaker 1: so strong had become weak, you know. Uh. And and
Speaker 1: I had to still be there for him with our
Speaker 1: relationship change as a result, and it made me. It
Speaker 1: made me sad, you know, and it kind of out
Speaker 1: of that. Out of that sadness, man, I came up
Speaker 1: with this idea of something like that happening to his character,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's kind of how how I came
Speaker 1: up with the idea of of what would becoming this movie.
Speaker 1: It was really just a movie you know, about me
Speaker 1: and my dad for from movie for my Dad. Man
Speaker 1: is hearing you talk? Man? Um? You you hit a
Speaker 1: variety of things that that they're going in our communities. Man,
Speaker 1: if you understand what I'm saying, and uh, obviously I
Speaker 1: have a foundation at work in the community, and they
Speaker 1: does things in the community. Most of the people in
Speaker 1: the black urban community, they think that they have to
Speaker 1: be a football player, basketball player, or rapper, you know
Speaker 1: how it is, you know, that's all you see something else, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: or a drug dealer, you know, on the streets, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So just you know, I know
Speaker 1: you talked about your path, man, but how gratifying is
Speaker 1: it to be so successful so young and all? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're in entertainment business, but you're not a rapper, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. You're not out here catching football's
Speaker 1: bang your head up against the wall, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And you're successful, man, Talk about the example
Speaker 1: or or the responsibility you feel um in the community. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean I think, uh, I think it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's important man. You know it's for me. It's it's
Speaker 1: interesting because I grew up with dudes that did all
Speaker 1: those things, you know what I'm saying, Like my mom
Speaker 1: my younger brother raps and makes music. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: I grew up with cash that that that that that
Speaker 1: I did a lot of a lot of my friends
Speaker 1: are in Carce right right now. A lot of my
Speaker 1: closest friends, you know. Um. And I used to play
Speaker 1: football on myself. I played it, you know, I played
Speaker 1: it from the age of you know, from the age
Speaker 1: of seven to the age of twenty one. So so
Speaker 1: I kind of you know, I saw all those things
Speaker 1: and I was I was when I discovered filmmaking, you
Speaker 1: know what, and and and and discovered that I had
Speaker 1: a passion for it. The thing they got me the
Speaker 1: most excited about it was that the potential of longevity,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like this this this idea
Speaker 1: that that you know, oh my god, there's this career
Speaker 1: that I could do and into my eighties and that
Speaker 1: long right there. And you know, with football, like like
Speaker 1: you know, we were just talking about some of the
Speaker 1: cats we came up with a man like in football
Speaker 1: when you when you It was such such a weird
Speaker 1: thing to hear people say, because in the filmmaking industry
Speaker 1: often tell me how young I am. But I don't
Speaker 1: look at myself as being young. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I'm twenty nine. If I was still playing football,
Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be a o G. I'll be ready
Speaker 1: to collect the pension or I'll hear the streets tuning.
Speaker 1: Now you old. You know what I'm saying, Like a
Speaker 1: lot of cats don't see that. So it's something I
Speaker 1: had to kind of like rework my head and our
Speaker 1: and in that process I realized that that one of
Speaker 1: the one of the symptoms of all of the things
Speaker 1: we struggle with and we deal with with being with
Speaker 1: being black men? Is our short sight in this you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that we don't it's so difficult
Speaker 1: to see. You know, it was hard for me to
Speaker 1: imagine myself at thirty years old or imagine myself at
Speaker 1: forty years old. I was fortunate enough to have have
Speaker 1: my dad and I can kind of like I can
Speaker 1: kind of see you know, when he when he got
Speaker 1: to fot y'all was like, Okay, that's that's like when
Speaker 1: he got the fifty y'all was like, Okay, that's what
Speaker 1: that's like. You know, I didn't really have nobody else though,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like, so it's one of
Speaker 1: those things where you kind of do what you see.
Speaker 1: So so it's an honor to be able to be
Speaker 1: able to show, you know, young young men like myself.
Speaker 1: That's that's it's this, it's this whole other thing, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And I mean, you guys are
Speaker 1: doing it yourself to him. You got you got a podcast,
Speaker 1: Like I told you, it's a blessing. It's a blessing,
Speaker 1: like I told you, man like just to have you
Speaker 1: on here and give us microphones and we talk and
Speaker 1: people listening it's a blessing. So identify what you Let's
Speaker 1: get back to Creed. You talked about the legacy of
Speaker 1: the Rocky movies. Um, I want to know, like, how
Speaker 1: how did you get Sylvestors to loan on board? And
Speaker 1: what's your vision for this franchise? And then what was
Speaker 1: it like? You know, I played with greats. I played
Speaker 1: with Brandy Moss, Salvin Johnson like those were greats. Now
Speaker 1: you're working with legendary actors, legendary producers, legendary figure like
Speaker 1: Sylvesters to loan. What was it like to just see
Speaker 1: him every day and talk to him and kind of
Speaker 1: soak up some of that knowledge? Yeah, well I could
Speaker 1: take it from the start off. I'm met him, um,
Speaker 1: because I pitched the idea. But I got signed to
Speaker 1: an agency W and ME, and they wrapped and they
Speaker 1: wrapped talent and they try to package films. You know,
Speaker 1: they might represent the director where I acted, you know,
Speaker 1: UM and the and they often asked, you know, what's
Speaker 1: your next project? You know, because that's how they make
Speaker 1: their money. They make their money while you continually working,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So when I got signed
Speaker 1: from Frugal. You know, they helped, They helped put outav
Speaker 1: and Spencer in the movie, and they wanted to know what,
Speaker 1: you know, what was next. So I pitched to uh
Speaker 1: to A to another another black man agent, Charles king Um,
Speaker 1: and and I got an edge name Crack and stuff.
Speaker 1: I told him about this movie that I had it.
Speaker 1: So I did it. I had about my my lats
Speaker 1: ship my father with frame in the in the Rocky World,
Speaker 1: and they got excited about it. Day. They introduced me
Speaker 1: to A to an agent who worked with the Loan
Speaker 1: for for for decades, and I told him about it
Speaker 1: and he was like, man, this is cool. You don't
Speaker 1: want to get you to sit down and slide um
Speaker 1: and see if he wants to do it. So eventually,
Speaker 1: you know, right before I got got ready to shoot
Speaker 1: through Belle Station, I had to fly down to Los
Speaker 1: Angeles and meet with and meet with the Loan and pitch,
Speaker 1: you know, and pitch him the idea right there in
Speaker 1: the room. And you know, I was nervous, man, but
Speaker 1: I didn't have anything to lose, you know, And I
Speaker 1: talked to him about it. And a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know about about sta Loan is that he wrote.
Speaker 1: You know, he wrote every single Rockey that there is.
Speaker 1: Um he directed four of the six that have been
Speaker 1: done before, you know, so so it was really very
Speaker 1: much his baby. You know, it's very personal to him.
Speaker 1: So he was apprehensive, you know, especially with the especially
Speaker 1: with the idea of Rocky being seen as weak, you
Speaker 1: know what i mean, should coming into to this illness.
Speaker 1: You know, he was nervous about that. But we just
Speaker 1: we just kept we just kept talking through man and
Speaker 1: then Frugal came out. He saw that, he liked that.
Speaker 1: You know, he met Mike and we just kept you know,
Speaker 1: we just kept talking. And as far as like working
Speaker 1: with working with a legend man, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting because I'm not a I'm not an
Speaker 1: actor myself. Like, so it's not the same as maybe
Speaker 1: being on the field, but maybe on the field with
Speaker 1: Calvin Johnson and being on the field with these with
Speaker 1: these legendary players, but it was more like it's like
Speaker 1: being like a coach, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's probably like with like with Mike Tomlin, you know,
Speaker 1: inherited your own battish and when he got hired on
Speaker 1: and you got this great dude that you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you gotta work with who you know? It
Speaker 1: was it was kind of like that kind of vibe man,
Speaker 1: And I just gave him, gave him all the respect
Speaker 1: that he deserved, and a big thing for me was
Speaker 1: taking everything else off his shoulders. I just wanted him
Speaker 1: to worry about the actor, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: because he's such a good actor, but he usually has
Speaker 1: to act produced direg you know, do his own stunts
Speaker 1: and quarik. I wanted to take all that all arrested
Speaker 1: out of way and then put all that all his
Speaker 1: energy towards the performance, you know. And I think and
Speaker 1: I think he was able to to put something out
Speaker 1: there these problect you know what I mean? Yeah? Mate?
Speaker 1: Uh you talk about Michael B. Jordan's man being your homie. Uh?
Speaker 1: Was there anybody else you you you thought about for
Speaker 1: for a Donna's creed or is it? Was it always
Speaker 1: Mike from I wish you're thinking like a Nick Burlson
Speaker 1: looks in a movie about Mom. I did say this
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks asked me who would play me
Speaker 1: in the movie, and I said, Michael B. Jordan because
Speaker 1: my mom not my family's from the Bay Fruitvale station
Speaker 1: hit home crazy, like we ain't here talking is talking
Speaker 1: like looking at paperwork, like oh, let's talk about Fruit,
Speaker 1: but we ain't see him. Like we've seen that and
Speaker 1: we can we can appreciate your work. But like Mike said,
Speaker 1: talk about Michael B. Jordan's and in his role not
Speaker 1: only as a as an actor, but as a friend. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so, you know, like I said, round the time
Speaker 1: I was I was figuring out this movie, I was,
Speaker 1: I was already going on Fruit. But so I met Mike.
Speaker 1: We become become close very fast. Man. He's actually yeah,
Speaker 1: he actually crazy enough. Y has he texted me right now?
Speaker 1: That's up. Tell him I'm working on the script and
Speaker 1: I need him. You know, I say, he got slim down. No,
Speaker 1: ain't really that swells anymore. So yeah, yeah, So I
Speaker 1: met Mike, Mike Newark man, and like the thing about
Speaker 1: the thing about us, man is that is that you
Speaker 1: know pretty much every every inner city man, it's got
Speaker 1: the kind of the the same politics. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: He's just a year a year younger than I am.
Speaker 1: So we hit it off. You know, we had a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of strange similarities man, Like, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, he had he had both his parents in
Speaker 1: his life. They got married young and stayed together. So
Speaker 1: he had to he had two siblings, you know, I got,
Speaker 1: I got two siblings. You know what I'm saying. It's
Speaker 1: it's just that that kind of look where you know,
Speaker 1: we just hit it off, man, and and uh, and
Speaker 1: it was it became very easy to work together. It
Speaker 1: was like it was like working with working with a friend.
Speaker 1: It wasn't it wasn't working anymore, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: showing up to hang out with my boys basically what
Speaker 1: all I was doing on Fruitgale. So soon when Creed
Speaker 1: you started going, it was no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 1: And and that and that's just you know, all of
Speaker 1: that is taken away from how talented he is. Man.
Speaker 1: He's you know, I think he's I think he's the
Speaker 1: best actor of margin of right it. Man, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, and and I said that, not
Speaker 1: not just as a black, as a black, accurate as
Speaker 1: an actor, you know what I mean. Really he's really talented.
Speaker 1: And um, he's got a great work ethic. I mean,
Speaker 1: he reminds me a lot of like for you know,
Speaker 1: for an athletic comparison. Man, he's like a Lebron man.
Speaker 1: He's somebody who has he's smart, who has all the
Speaker 1: physical gifts, you know, all the intangibles that you can't.
Speaker 1: You know, Lebron don't have any control over being how
Speaker 1: tall he is. You know, he kind of earned that.
Speaker 1: But then the stuff that he does have control over,
Speaker 1: you know, he just excels hundreds, like like crazy work ethic.
Speaker 1: You know, Mike's crazy competitive. He wants to win. He
Speaker 1: wants to be the best at all times, so much
Speaker 1: that you know, one of my jobs as a director
Speaker 1: is is to protect me from himself. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He's the guy that does a boxing movie.
Speaker 1: He wants to get punched in the face ten times
Speaker 1: so that so that the performan is good. And I
Speaker 1: gotta I gotta be the one to tell him a Mike, man,
Speaker 1: you know, we gotta do these movie punches so you
Speaker 1: don't got a concussion about they too, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So you know that's that's that's that's that's
Speaker 1: what kind of guy years though, So so along with
Speaker 1: you being in a world winning director, Um, you are
Speaker 1: one of us. You know your wide receiver and I
Speaker 1: say one of me because I'm a receiver. Man, I
Speaker 1: played wide out before. Come on, may check my bio.
Speaker 1: Dog check my bio. We're talking about cancer. Did on
Speaker 1: the high level sacramal college? Check my college? State? Are
Speaker 1: disrespect no ca, I am consoled out in front of company.
Speaker 1: I'm showing for the company, right, I'm saying, alright, my bad. Okay.
Speaker 1: But but Ryan a hundred and twelve receptions over twelve
Speaker 1: hundred yards, six touchdowns. You know you talked about it earlier,
Speaker 1: football being something you fell in love with and your father,
Speaker 1: you know, being one of your biggest coaches and influences. UM,
Speaker 1: but now your goals are different. Like you said, there's
Speaker 1: longevity in this UM. And we asked this question to
Speaker 1: anybody we have as a guest, Uh, what is your goals?
Speaker 1: What's next? Fruit Ville Boom came out and shed a
Speaker 1: light on a very personal situation that was real, that happened,
Speaker 1: that was recorded, that social media took hold of. You
Speaker 1: made a movie and made it real to everybody. Now
Speaker 1: you got Creed and and it's a tremendous movie. On
Speaker 1: a tremendous franchise grew up. What next? Like, what's next
Speaker 1: for you? Bro? What's your goals? I'm not I'm not sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I'll say like I got no no projects specifically,
Speaker 1: I know I'm doing just yet. What I'm doing is
Speaker 1: that I want to continue to work, you know, um
Speaker 1: and continue to do things that are that are very
Speaker 1: meaningful to me personally. Man. Like the thing about the
Speaker 1: thing about making movies just compared to as compared to
Speaker 1: sports manage that this it takes forever, bro, Like you know,
Speaker 1: like like this movie I've been working on for like
Speaker 1: two for like two and a half years, man, And
Speaker 1: as a as a writer director, you're there for every
Speaker 1: stage of the projects, whereas the actors kind of come
Speaker 1: and go to the cinematographer coming and goals, the sound
Speaker 1: asigners you know, come and go. You know, I'm there,
Speaker 1: I'm there forever. And it's kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: my motivation has the motive at everybody. So it's whatever
Speaker 1: I do next is it will be a project that
Speaker 1: I'm I'm that that keeps me up at night, that
Speaker 1: makes me excited, you know what I mean? And in
Speaker 1: terms of just professional goals, and I love to you know,
Speaker 1: I love to uh to make a make a production
Speaker 1: company so I can help other you know, other filmmakers
Speaker 1: you know, uh you know, do you know do that
Speaker 1: do that thing and get the ideas out there, get
Speaker 1: their projects out there, and not just not just filmmaking,
Speaker 1: because I think that you know, media is gonna take
Speaker 1: on so many more forums, man, with with technologies of
Speaker 1: podcasts and and and uh you know, television and all
Speaker 1: these different things. I think you're gonna merge together and um,
Speaker 1: we're seeing other garden nagire media soon, you know. So
Speaker 1: I like to be involved in that. But the biggest
Speaker 1: thing for me is just it is just community, community
Speaker 1: activision as well. Man, I'm gonna I'm gonna you know,
Speaker 1: you like the professional shot of it, fun you know, fun,
Speaker 1: fun that stuff. I'm just saying we could do something
Speaker 1: called like the R and B podcast, movie, episode, calm,
Speaker 1: sitcom whatever. I'm just throwing that out, throwing it out there,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, no pressure of us. And to
Speaker 1: be honest with you guys though, man like like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a documentary there in terms
Speaker 1: of you know what what these athletes that that that
Speaker 1: make it out that, make it out of where we're
Speaker 1: from and achieve this heart level of success like you
Speaker 1: guys have. But you when you retire at thirty, we
Speaker 1: don't have enough time for that. But look, trust me, bro,
Speaker 1: I get about and me and they talked about it
Speaker 1: before we get about. I get about four or five
Speaker 1: calls a month from ex guys saying, dude, how do
Speaker 1: you do it? How did you prepare? And I always
Speaker 1: tell people, you gotta have perspective, man, like you gotta
Speaker 1: think ahead. You can't just say the NFL is the
Speaker 1: end dog goal and I don't have to work anymore.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? I'm a Super Bowl champion, played
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl all that, and I'm thirty two. You just can't.
Speaker 1: You can't make that the goal to go. It has
Speaker 1: to be a stepping stone. And it's just a blessing
Speaker 1: man to hear another guy a whole another realm kind
Speaker 1: of doing the same. That got another football question for you.
Speaker 1: I've played you played before. Who's the most notable guy
Speaker 1: that you either played with or played against? Somebody that
Speaker 1: our fans may know? Oh Man, I grew up with
Speaker 1: Marshawn Man. He he was I played against Marshawn in
Speaker 1: high school when he was at Tech and I was
Speaker 1: at the same very don't wanted a few cats. I
Speaker 1: scored two touchdowns on and I picked him off when
Speaker 1: he when he was when he ran a halfback pass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we ended up tying in the game. Man, I would say,
Speaker 1: I would say, Marshawn is uh, it's without questions. I
Speaker 1: like how he answered the questions at TWEE. Keep in
Speaker 1: mind he tore us up, man, like he tore everybody
Speaker 1: up first place from scrimmage man, me and me and
Speaker 1: Steve when you know, from the bottle we was chasing touchdown. Man,
Speaker 1: you know he was. He was exceptional. But I mean
Speaker 1: I played against I played against Marshawn again in college
Speaker 1: when I was a sack State in two thousand. I
Speaker 1: guess I was two thousand. Uh, I guess I was
Speaker 1: two thousand five. And it was and it was it
Speaker 1: was also uh it was also de Sean Jackson's first
Speaker 1: college Yeah. Yeah, So I played against Marshaw when he
Speaker 1: when he when he was like he was a sophomore
Speaker 1: and and it was yeah, and it was and it
Speaker 1: was the the Jackson first college game. The Jacks had
Speaker 1: two touchdowns as a true freshman. So um, so, y'all
Speaker 1: know you love sports, you know, and you've met some celebrities,
Speaker 1: you've met some athletes. But who haven't you mat and
Speaker 1: not just football, but maybe in football, basketball, whatever, Who
Speaker 1: haven't met that you would like that you would like
Speaker 1: to meet that you know that you're a fan of. Man,
Speaker 1: I got a couple of a couple of people, man
Speaker 1: like uh, Muhammad Ali, you know, got you. I don't
Speaker 1: know how well he's doing. Man, you know like folks
Speaker 1: machinim out too much? You know. Um, but but but
Speaker 1: that that will be on honor. And there was another
Speaker 1: guy who wanted to meet who passed away recently. I
Speaker 1: wanted to work. I want to Philip s Moore Hoffman
Speaker 1: was like my favorite actor. Yeah, he passed away before
Speaker 1: I had a chance to you. I had to chanted me.
Speaker 1: And I still haven't met den Jail yet. You ain't
Speaker 1: met Denzel? You Metzel? Now? I met his son? You
Speaker 1: said it, like you Man, I met his son one time. No,
Speaker 1: you know that's close. Look, I look another another football question.
Speaker 1: I know, I think I know who you're gonna say.
Speaker 1: But if you had to pick a white out or
Speaker 1: Maria Cooper or Odell Beckham, Jim. Now you in Oakland. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm just you can't go, man, I got to go
Speaker 1: to Morrow. I let I let Mike b pick O'Dell
Speaker 1: might be the giants town business. I should use you
Speaker 1: rock all right, man, we'll listen with last question. You know,
Speaker 1: I want to give you an opportunity, um to tell
Speaker 1: the people listening and watching something that they don't know
Speaker 1: about you, something that they can't google and find out,
Speaker 1: you know, watching the interview. Oh, I'll tell you man.
Speaker 1: My fiance was a bigger athlete than I was. Ok.
Speaker 1: She was. She was like we grew up out here
Speaker 1: like if he was an ask somebody who knew bad
Speaker 1: areas worse when we when we came up and I
Speaker 1: got my scholarship, she was she was like three times
Speaker 1: going on as all was. She ran the eight hundred,
Speaker 1: ended up on the Freshno state, you know, in the
Speaker 1: whack like like your shoven, and she she won the
Speaker 1: hard whack in the eight hunt our junior year. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy about that. I met my wife. She was
Speaker 1: the big dog on campus, was running hurdles at her
Speaker 1: athlete listen, and she won hurdles. Uh, at the at
Speaker 1: the University Nevadaran. I'm saying, hey, we gotta set up
Speaker 1: this combine. Though with the wife, you're saying we gotta
Speaker 1: set it up. She definitely still a competitive man. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. That's what's up. We'll definitely still
Speaker 1: be walking somewhere and I'll be like, Man, that's right.
Speaker 1: She shouldn't bam on call. She got it on call.
Speaker 1: Hey we're listening, Ryan. I appreciate it. And uh, you
Speaker 1: know all b a siety, man. We are truly honored. Thanks.
Speaker 1: It's an honored dog. I mean, like, definitely, man, your inspiration. Bro.
Speaker 1: I mean you're younger than me, man, but still dog,
Speaker 1: what you're doing, the path, where you did it, that
Speaker 1: the circumstances, everything around it. Man, you're really thoughtful, brother, Man,
Speaker 1: keep doing your things. Time Magazine thirty People Under thirty
Speaker 1: Most Influential figures, like saying, you know when after there,
Speaker 1: we gotta say they stand So I gotta I gotta
Speaker 1: tell my boys like people gotta know, man, um. But
Speaker 1: like Mike said, they were honored. It was an inspiration
Speaker 1: to talk to you. I'm gonna get your number because
Speaker 1: I want to be in a movie. Bro, Like I'm said, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what's up. All right, Bro, I'd be easy man,
Speaker 1: And thanks man, thanks for joining us. Much appreciated to
Speaker 1: Ryan Coogler. Dude, it's amazing inspiring man. I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're a young person right now under thirty, yeah, check
Speaker 1: that dude out what he's all about. Check that interview
Speaker 1: out with unbelieving, unbelievable, unbelievable, A big huge thank you,
Speaker 1: Hey Yo t d for for those that don't know
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Speaker 1: the R and B hotline. Can you tell the people
Speaker 1: a little bit right now what the R and B
Speaker 1: hotline is so they hit to it in the future
Speaker 1: for our future shows, you want you guys to chime
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Speaker 1: It's a wrap. This is episode five of the R
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