Speaker 1: What's popping. It's the R and Bat Podcast, episode number three.
Speaker 1: That was dope dog. How long they took you to
Speaker 1: practice that? Bro, it's all off top of the head.
Speaker 1: I'm with my man, I'm real, Mike Rob and um
Speaker 1: Nate Burlison dropped that beat TV. Yeah, it sounds like
Speaker 1: a West Coast meat right here. It sounds like one
Speaker 1: of them trained probably around two thousand to two thousand
Speaker 1: three beats. Yeah, that's what it sounds like like. When
Speaker 1: Snoo Deal double G was on the microphone. I'm from
Speaker 1: the East Coast, but I can't lie. I used to
Speaker 1: dig the West Coast, Vive Bro. I can't lie, man,
Speaker 1: I dig it back to the West Coast five. I
Speaker 1: thought I was from the East Coast. I thought I
Speaker 1: was Mace for like five years of my life. You
Speaker 1: know what used to say? I sounded like they said,
Speaker 1: I sounded like Mason, you know when I was in
Speaker 1: high school. You know, I feel you shinye to man. Listen, man,
Speaker 1: this is the third episode of our show. Before we
Speaker 1: get started, we kind of want to explain our show
Speaker 1: to the people. Mike, So how would you describe it?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm gonna say my dog, dog Dog.
Speaker 1: I'm real. That's why they call me real Mike Vibe.
Speaker 1: That's why this is the R and B Podcast. That's
Speaker 1: why we had an arm P SEC R and B
Speaker 1: segment on Auto L Access. You're not gonna get it
Speaker 1: like this anywhere else. Yeah, that's just the way. Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how else to say, it's a hundred
Speaker 1: percent real, is a hundred percent true some of the
Speaker 1: stuff I say. Man, you know, the higher ups here
Speaker 1: in the NFL network, they get emails and they're like, Yo, Mike,
Speaker 1: shut the hell I mean, but hey, I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't deny the people. You can't sensor the real. I can't.
Speaker 1: They're gonna talk about the NFL. We're gonna talk about life,
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about pop culture. This is real information
Speaker 1: from real guys have been there and done that. Uh
Speaker 1: you know this is this is real life talk. You
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Speaker 1: We're not. We're not pulling no punches. We're gonna hit
Speaker 1: you where it hurts, and we're gonna make you smile,
Speaker 1: make you laugh, and we're gonna give you some information.
Speaker 1: You're gonna learn something when you get done listening. But
Speaker 1: but I must say it is from a player's perspective.
Speaker 1: If you think that you're gonna get a front office view,
Speaker 1: if you think you're gonna get a coach's view or
Speaker 1: a fans view, I'm not gonna lie. You're gonna get
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Speaker 1: sprinkled in and got my man t d on the
Speaker 1: ones and twos. He drops the beats in between segments
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Speaker 1: make this a show. And you know, in five years
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a movie. Son, Come on, dog, for real,
Speaker 1: who will play in a movie? Man? I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, I like Michael Beach or you know, I
Speaker 1: would say, but he looks would play. You ain't no
Speaker 1: actions buff enough to play? You dog, appreciate the compliment,
Speaker 1: but uh, I think um like a two thousand three
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Speaker 1: a dark skin n You know he just no why
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be able to get my my accent. I'm
Speaker 1: I have a little a little small Southern Twain and
Speaker 1: I got a big head, bro, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You know, people say, I look like, what's the what's
Speaker 1: the what's the acts? Rampage Jackson, Yeah, he looked like me.
Speaker 1: I bought that. You know. I famous you guys in
Speaker 1: the fight. I see you guys in the fight. Man
Speaker 1: Page don't want none of this. Terry Crew, Terry Crew,
Speaker 1: that's my dog. How to't hung out with terryble for good, dude,
Speaker 1: I can see Terry Crew. You know what. Let me
Speaker 1: let me tell the people what's coming up on the show.
Speaker 1: But you know, at the end of the show, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get back to the fact that you just said,
Speaker 1: Rampage don't want that. I've seen him kick a man
Speaker 1: in the face anyways, you never seen Okay, alright, you right,
Speaker 1: let me tell people what's coming up on the show.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the latter stages of an NFL career.
Speaker 1: Um kind of kind of like when do you know
Speaker 1: it's time and if you get that opportunity to come back,
Speaker 1: do you take the opportunity? I e West, as we
Speaker 1: just heard, I didn't either. Uh. You know, we'll talk
Speaker 1: about players with the most respect in the league. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about what's going on in music and all that.
Speaker 1: We got some some bye week information bye week. We
Speaker 1: got some pictures from somebody's bye week that you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna touch on this a little bit. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about our bye weeks kind of like what we did.
Speaker 1: Uh So, so we're gonna get into that. That's our show.
Speaker 1: Oh I just got what you were saying. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I got it. So that's what we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: in the show. So make sure you guys hit us up.
Speaker 1: We're listening. Somebody hit us up earlier and said, how
Speaker 1: do we get how do I get my black on
Speaker 1: the college budget? Right? College? So I was on Twitter
Speaker 1: and some people know that we really hip to what's
Speaker 1: going on to listen at not famous Leo, how do
Speaker 1: I get my swag on on a college? But let
Speaker 1: me tell you, bro, I'm gonna make it honest with
Speaker 1: you keep in one hunted. Look, find you a nice
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Speaker 1: job that got the hook up. Yeah, she got to
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Speaker 1: hook up and be friends and then that way you
Speaker 1: can you can cut the corners on certain things. You
Speaker 1: would spin full pridor I'm so glad you're here, bro, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would have got messed up on. And on top
Speaker 1: of that, you gotta cut down on the food, man,
Speaker 1: No more fancy foods. Not don't go man, Come on man,
Speaker 1: chilly hot dogs. Just a couple of noodles can't get
Speaker 1: you through a lot of nights. A couple of noodles
Speaker 1: and some season and salt. Let me tell you, bro,
Speaker 1: got me through. If we're telling college together, then we
Speaker 1: could have had a good time. A t D give
Speaker 1: me that big is huh uh? You see what this
Speaker 1: makes me feel like? Oh like it's picking up. This
Speaker 1: sounds like something, Jake. We guys got the beat to
Speaker 1: drop me get that. Yeah? Uh oh, I said I
Speaker 1: was gonna wrap this week. I like I didn't even
Speaker 1: think about it my bad, But I'm feeling this beat though,
Speaker 1: t D right there fire, Oh yeah, I'm thinking that.
Speaker 1: Huh wrap t D. I appreciate that. No, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get gonna give some I'm gonna give some bars at
Speaker 1: the end, you know, to a little freestyle. Hold up,
Speaker 1: hold up, hold up. I know we got a little
Speaker 1: order that we talked about. Let let let's talk about
Speaker 1: the boy. I keep tally man. Did I say that right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Last week? Yeah, I said, yeah, I keep telling my
Speaker 1: bad man. I didn't mean to mess I really don't
Speaker 1: mean to mess up your name. But Bro, when I
Speaker 1: first saw the play, I'm like, it's no way he
Speaker 1: meant to go over there and just poke a dude
Speaker 1: in the face. No way, right, especially when I don't
Speaker 1: even see why you even got involved in it, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: But the more I watched that, bro, it looked like
Speaker 1: he was trying to scrape the book. Yeah he said,
Speaker 1: oh you got an eye boogie or let me yeah,
Speaker 1: let me scrape that sleep sleep about your eye? Right,
Speaker 1: And like yeah, a little bit further, Yeah, man, that's bad.
Speaker 1: You can't be doing that, bro, he and then thinking
Speaker 1: about it, but he should know better, And then he said,
Speaker 1: and didn't try to say, uh that that he was
Speaker 1: acting dramatic when he got hit, like he got hit
Speaker 1: by a t passenger truck. They don't get don't get
Speaker 1: me wrong. It ain't funny. It's not funny, okay, And
Speaker 1: and and and look it's all about players safety. And look,
Speaker 1: you can't do that. Here here's the fact he was saying. Here,
Speaker 1: here's the facts. Like Mike, you know, like I know
Speaker 1: when we first got in the league, like you're kind
Speaker 1: of hot headed and you and you're you're foold in
Speaker 1: and thinking like you gotta ride or die with your team,
Speaker 1: like you know, you gotta you gotta bleed, and you
Speaker 1: gotta sweat, you gotta live and breathe the organization that
Speaker 1: gave you a chance, that gave you some money. So
Speaker 1: for me, I come from the mindset that family's family.
Speaker 1: And when there was a stuff on the field at
Speaker 1: practice or in the game, I'm jumping to it like
Speaker 1: I'm in there, I'm pushing, I'm throwing blows. I didn't
Speaker 1: got fined because I'm out there fighting. And I thought
Speaker 1: that was the routine. Like coaches said, Hey, you never
Speaker 1: leave your man out there alone. If you're in the
Speaker 1: streets with him are on the field, you better fight
Speaker 1: for him. That's your brother, right, So if you're young,
Speaker 1: do you make a mistake, I'm gonna chalk that up
Speaker 1: to just to immaturity straight up. But he too old,
Speaker 1: Like you can't do that. And and then at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, Ny and I get what you're saying.
Speaker 1: And I can't lie. I've been guilty of uh throwing
Speaker 1: a cut block with uh kind of doing a little
Speaker 1: giving a little extra maybe swinging my other arm maybe
Speaker 1: to see if I kept something. Because I can't lie.
Speaker 1: That's facts football. And look, I learned this from Larry Allen.
Speaker 1: Larry Allen told me was when I play Withhi in
Speaker 1: San Francisco. This is the only game in the world
Speaker 1: where you can get paid to take another man's will.
Speaker 1: I mean boxing, right, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: I mean really like you can take another man's will.
Speaker 1: So like you guy hit you, you can really really
Speaker 1: strike back like that. That's what it's all about. What
Speaker 1: you can't You can't poke a dude out. I was
Speaker 1: told by Veggimo Nate when I first got in the league.
Speaker 1: A lot of things I remember my rookie year more
Speaker 1: than any other year for some reason. You know, I
Speaker 1: have my ears opening a lot. He said, the NFL
Speaker 1: will exaggerate your strengths and your weaknesses, and the NFL
Speaker 1: will bring the best out of you, and it will
Speaker 1: bring the worst out of you. And I had no
Speaker 1: idea what he was talking about. But you get so
Speaker 1: much prey and just to keep it will, because it's
Speaker 1: to keep it real show. You get so much power,
Speaker 1: Like people don't understand. It's like being a rock star,
Speaker 1: but you're the most athletic rock star in the world.
Speaker 1: So every day people praising your patting you on the back,
Speaker 1: and you get on that field. Like you said, one
Speaker 1: man is trying to take your will, you're trying to
Speaker 1: take his will. Sometimes bad intentions come out, and when
Speaker 1: you're young, it's like, all right, learn from it. Because
Speaker 1: I learned from it. I'm like, when I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be out here throwing blows, I don't want to be
Speaker 1: a bad example for kids that look up to me.
Speaker 1: And then when I had kids, my little one is
Speaker 1: looking up to me, and then too, I don't want
Speaker 1: nobody reaching in my check taking out seventy bucks because
Speaker 1: I just swung get missed the dude, I don't even
Speaker 1: connect with his face. Okay, well what about the teddy
Speaker 1: bird for the hit? But okay, first of all, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask you. I'm gonna ask you, do you think
Speaker 1: it was bad intentions about the defender? Because I ain't
Speaker 1: gonna lie. I'm off as a guy played quarterback before
Speaker 1: I ran the football, and I get it at some
Speaker 1: time there's gray area, when do you Because quarterbacks will
Speaker 1: go to the last minute then they get that real fast,
Speaker 1: I mean, and then they scrambled in and scored and
Speaker 1: it appears a certain way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And sometimes you don't see a guy like Cam Newton
Speaker 1: getting some of those cars because he's just a bigger guy. Right, Um,
Speaker 1: I get that. But our quarterbacks need to need to
Speaker 1: be protected, right, That's just what I feel. Uh. Do
Speaker 1: you think it was a dirty hit? And do you
Speaker 1: think Greg william Greg Williams or um the defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: for the Rams or Jeff Fisher because the Jeff Fisher
Speaker 1: coach team. Okay, do you think it's fair to say
Speaker 1: that they're a dirty bunch? So now I don't think
Speaker 1: that that the Come on, I'm keeping funky dog because
Speaker 1: you don't play the Jeff Fisher coach team bro. No,
Speaker 1: that's facts. But and you know what time it is.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. So they said that the the Rams
Speaker 1: played through the whistle. The Minnesota Vikings were saying that
Speaker 1: to each other, and the coaches are saying, hey, this
Speaker 1: is a team that plays thro the whistle. Whether you
Speaker 1: want to describe that as dirty or not, that's what
Speaker 1: they were saying leading up to the game. I don't
Speaker 1: find nothing wrong with that. I used to tell my
Speaker 1: dudes to play through the whistle. You should have the rev.
Speaker 1: Graby you saying, alright, thirteen, which is my number, thirteen,
Speaker 1: chill out. That's what I want to see. I want
Speaker 1: to I want to see movement while the whistle still blowing.
Speaker 1: That means you give me ultimate effort. I'm touching on
Speaker 1: every subject. Okay, now the hit, And initially I thought
Speaker 1: that's a stupid hit because you know that the league
Speaker 1: is about to protect They're about protecting quarterbacks, right, So
Speaker 1: I thought that's stupid. And more I looked at him like, man,
Speaker 1: his head violently hit the ground and bounced back up,
Speaker 1: which is why he got knocked out. So I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: that was that was dirty, not malicious, but dirty. And
Speaker 1: then I saw the young man's uh post game interview
Speaker 1: that hit Bridgewater. Yeah, what was his name? It right?
Speaker 1: So and he had the most sincere post game interview
Speaker 1: after making a dumb mistake in the game. Most of
Speaker 1: the time, a man's ego won't allow you to go
Speaker 1: in the depth. He went, like, I made him. I
Speaker 1: made mistakes when I was jogging. You're right, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: you know what, and I got I'll fix it next time.
Speaker 1: This is kind of left field, but I'll bring it
Speaker 1: back around. Hopefully. This makes sense. When Greg Hardy first
Speaker 1: got to the Cowboys, he was avoiding questions about just
Speaker 1: issues about maturity, about everything. He was just he wouldn't
Speaker 1: talk about it. So this young man said, I'm about
Speaker 1: to address this head on. He said, Yo, my dad
Speaker 1: knows his mom, My mom knows his mom. I grew
Speaker 1: up across the train tracks. I know this man. There's
Speaker 1: no way I would maliciously hit this individual. He's like,
Speaker 1: I know Teddy and I saw He said, you don't
Speaker 1: understand how I'm feeling right now. He said, I'm feeling
Speaker 1: terrible inside. Like that's a man setting aside his ego
Speaker 1: with his pride and say, you know what, that's this
Speaker 1: is the real that's tough to do. And after I
Speaker 1: heard it, I said, you know what, he didn't mean
Speaker 1: to do it. I washed my hands with it. But look,
Speaker 1: check this out Jeff Fisher coach teams. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that the hit was. I don't think it was
Speaker 1: any mal intent behind it. I really don't. And uh,
Speaker 1: just if you look at the kid on film and everything,
Speaker 1: that's not him, right, facts, But the fact is, when
Speaker 1: you play a Jeff Fisher coach team, yeah, you understand
Speaker 1: playing through the whistle, but there's always extra There's always
Speaker 1: the punching under the piles, there's always the gouging of
Speaker 1: the eyes under the piles, there's always the there's always
Speaker 1: the extra extra stuff on the teetering the brink of
Speaker 1: post whistle. Okay, I mean come on, man, he's probably
Speaker 1: the most penalized coach coach like in the last decade.
Speaker 1: Look it up. But you you cut from the same
Speaker 1: cloth that I'm cut from, which means, if you know
Speaker 1: you're facing the team that's bringing that on game day,
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do? Oh yeah, they finn get it.
Speaker 1: They finn to get it, so no complaints. You know,
Speaker 1: if you face, I'm gonna bring that extra whistle, okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna bring that bank band, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: bring the extra pushing the shove it. And if there's
Speaker 1: a scuffle guests, who's gonna be front? Since you that dude,
Speaker 1: I'm that digg it. I can dig it, I can,
Speaker 1: but I feel you though, I can dig to me
Speaker 1: for a guy to be on the competition committee, and
Speaker 1: I'll love. I love Jeff Fisher. He was you know,
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, he was my coach in
Speaker 1: the senior ball, captain of that team. I love Jeff Fisher?
Speaker 1: But why is his teams always team? Why do they
Speaker 1: always have that the personal files? I mean I played St.
Speaker 1: Louis a few years ago in Seattle. One of the
Speaker 1: d linemen hit the referee and got ejected. I mean, really,
Speaker 1: why does it always go there? And to me, I
Speaker 1: don't know, they're smoking, there's smoke. Wherever they're smoke, there's
Speaker 1: there's some fire somewhere. I don't somebody's been somebody, somebody,
Speaker 1: somebody's been taught or been talking told or being or
Speaker 1: being you know, I don't know man, you saying you
Speaker 1: see what I'm saying, whether they're smoke fire a t
Speaker 1: D dropped that beat. Oh that's not like a nasty
Speaker 1: nas beat. Uh night nineties nine na yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: goes he go eight. You know what on this one
Speaker 1: out the world you're that father with the world. He
Speaker 1: just told me that because I would be my ad
Speaker 1: little to be dope. Oh oh, I really wish I could.
Speaker 1: I probably could write something. You probably could write something.
Speaker 1: You're a smart man. You're very articulate. Moment there you go.
Speaker 1: You're very black guy, You're very articulate. Hey, listen, let's
Speaker 1: talk about West Welker being back in the league. Right,
Speaker 1: So we said at the beginning that we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about the later stages of the NFL career. Um, we'll
Speaker 1: spend some time on this. So West Walker's back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he signed with the Rams, right, young man, Stepman Bailey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got suspension for probably smoking some wheat facts, probably
Speaker 1: just keeping it real, right, that's what we do on
Speaker 1: the show. Show we got a real good policy. Come on,
Speaker 1: do a whole show on that. Yeah, I feel we
Speaker 1: do got a real good policy, straight up and down.
Speaker 1: So West is back Now, when a guy returns back
Speaker 1: to the league from injury, if you're healed up, I
Speaker 1: have no problem with it. But when you have had
Speaker 1: concussion issues, that's when I start to worry about the
Speaker 1: safety in the future of an individual. And it's not
Speaker 1: like West is a six five Calvin Johnson type that
Speaker 1: runs up the sideline occasionally gets hit. West is a
Speaker 1: slot machine. He's in the inside of every defense, running
Speaker 1: through man and man zone coverage, which means when he
Speaker 1: catches the ball, most likely he's gonna get hit, whether
Speaker 1: it's by Nickel Ben safety, safe linebacker d Lineman. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So for me, it's like, Bro, if if I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna speak on anybody's money, we don't do that here.
Speaker 1: If your money is good, your family is good. I
Speaker 1: already just had twins and he's been chilling at home.
Speaker 1: Why whylcome back to the game A West to take
Speaker 1: it from me, Bro, take it from me. It's not
Speaker 1: like the St. Louis Rams are gonna win the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl this year. I'm just being honest. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that they're not a good team, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that they're gonna win the NFC West, which means I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna win the NFC, And if they
Speaker 1: did win the NFC, I don't think they could be
Speaker 1: the top two teams on the NFC if they ever
Speaker 1: be went to the Super So let's just keep it real. So,
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna risk something coming back for it has
Speaker 1: to be a ring, it has to be to a contender.
Speaker 1: But not everybody comes back for that reason. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but you would and I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna dig in somebody's pockets or anything like that. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But you talk about a
Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand instead of lace laced contract, I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, West, not enough. Come on, bro, that's not enough.
Speaker 1: List what you're saying. I thought the same thing seven
Speaker 1: hundred kate, and I've had I've had issues with my head.
Speaker 1: I just had to you see what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's not enough, it's not that's not a price on
Speaker 1: on that for me. When I when I left, my
Speaker 1: kidneys failed, my liver failed. I took a bad drug
Speaker 1: and had a bad reaction to it that the team
Speaker 1: gave me, had a bad reaction to it, and then boom. Uh.
Speaker 1: It was like, I can't take pain mass no more.
Speaker 1: So Okay, I played fullback, one of the most physical
Speaker 1: positions in this league. Okay, Mike, do you want to
Speaker 1: come back and do this without taking pain mass. My
Speaker 1: answer at the time was, I don't know. I know
Speaker 1: I'm still in shape. I know I still want to play,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I had an opportunity to get
Speaker 1: back with Seattle. They you know, I was able to
Speaker 1: manage my pain. But I knew that we had a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl team. I knew we were contending, and I
Speaker 1: only contended. I knew we were the most dominant team
Speaker 1: in football, and that year we proved it to be.
Speaker 1: So I came back. Yeah, my health was kind of
Speaker 1: on the fringe, but I came back to get this ring.
Speaker 1: When you get that ring, boy, you're an indelible ink.
Speaker 1: Check this out. I don't know if West has a TV.
Speaker 1: Just does West have of ring? West is ANFC champion?
Speaker 1: You never Okay, Okay, so West never never won a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Here, don't I don't back West. I don't
Speaker 1: know West, but I don't think he's coming back for
Speaker 1: the ring. I mean, just like you said, he's he's
Speaker 1: a football player. He's a smart guy. The Rams aren't
Speaker 1: necessarily the favorite to win the Super Bowl this year,
Speaker 1: so I think it's one of those situations which happens
Speaker 1: all the time where a player wants to leave the
Speaker 1: game on his own terms. Right, because West kind of
Speaker 1: got shoot out a little bit, like once he had
Speaker 1: a concussions. It was kind of like, alright, West, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess at one point you were leading the league
Speaker 1: of receptions and you were one of the dominant slop
Speaker 1: slop players. But you know it's time and push him
Speaker 1: out the door. I feel I feel like he I
Speaker 1: feel like there's something that he has to prove as
Speaker 1: a receiver. The only reason I say that is because
Speaker 1: I felt the same way. Like I felt the exact
Speaker 1: same way when I crashed the car right in Detroit
Speaker 1: trying to save pizza. Here's the story, so everybody hears it.
Speaker 1: Damn good. I went to Happy's Pizza, right, my man Happy.
Speaker 1: I love him to death, and um he he owns
Speaker 1: a ton of them out there. So I'm leaving. He
Speaker 1: gives me all the food every time we leave, you know,
Speaker 1: ribs and pizza, chicken wings, all that stuff. So I'm
Speaker 1: leaving right before I get on the freeway. Now here's
Speaker 1: I'm giving you all the real story. Before I get
Speaker 1: on the freeway, I stopped by this hookah spot, Dese
Speaker 1: Young casts owner and I used to go there probably
Speaker 1: once a week. They're like, Yo, Nate, I just came
Speaker 1: off the Washington Redskins game, one of my biggest games
Speaker 1: as a Detroit line. They're like, yo, Nate, what's up?
Speaker 1: What's popping? How are you doing. I'm like, I'm good man.
Speaker 1: They're like, yo, you, Paul. You know, like I'm appreciate it.
Speaker 1: They're like, yo, take a shot, man. I'm like, nah,
Speaker 1: it's late. I got a head home. They're like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: take a shot. Man. I'm like, no, I'm good. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I'll come back, you know,
Speaker 1: because I would like to drink a little. So I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: I'll come back, and you know, in a couple of days,
Speaker 1: you know, we can drink and toasted a good game.
Speaker 1: So and I think that's one of the reasons why
Speaker 1: there wasn't any issues as far as drinking, because I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what, I don't want to drink
Speaker 1: right now. It's late. I don't want to drive home,
Speaker 1: you know, tired with alcohol in my system. So I
Speaker 1: get in the car. Drake had just came out to
Speaker 1: take Care album, So you know, I used to drive
Speaker 1: my knees a lot because I thought I was you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. So I'm listening to the Drake. I'm playing
Speaker 1: with the phone and auxiliary corps with both hands, driving
Speaker 1: with my knees. So and the pizza is all stacked
Speaker 1: up in the passenger seat, so you know, I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there and I'm driving, and then I'm listening to the music.
Speaker 1: I finally getting my track on. I'm like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: feeling this, man. Oh yeah, here we go. I look up.
Speaker 1: There's a gray van in front of me, and it
Speaker 1: seemed like it was feet feet away. It was. It
Speaker 1: felt that close. So I'm like, oh, stay, I'm about
Speaker 1: to hit this car because I must have been pressing
Speaker 1: the pedal and I said, all right, I need to
Speaker 1: yank the wheel, and instead of just hitting the brakes,
Speaker 1: I wish I should have did. I yanked the wheel
Speaker 1: to the right. Right. It's like a four lane freeway
Speaker 1: six in Michigan, and I'm heading towards the medium in
Speaker 1: the middle of concrete medium. So I'm like, oh snaps,
Speaker 1: I gotta correct this. So I yanked it back to
Speaker 1: the right. Now I'm heading towards the embankment, you know,
Speaker 1: all grass area. So I'm like, all right, I got
Speaker 1: I really got one more chance to correct this, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I yanked the wheel back
Speaker 1: to the left, and I'm like, oh snap. So my
Speaker 1: cars like kind of evening out and I'm heading the
Speaker 1: right direction. I'm thinking in my head, yeah, I got this,
Speaker 1: Like are you kidding me? This is all happening like this.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, yo, I got this. I got this.
Speaker 1: And then I'm I'm overcorrected it obviously, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't got this. I don't got this. I'm about
Speaker 1: to hit this medium right and then I hit this
Speaker 1: medium boom. And so you never want to hit the break.
Speaker 1: I never want to hit the break out. Like, I
Speaker 1: don't know why I didn't hit the break. I've never
Speaker 1: really been in situation so here. So I hit it boom.
Speaker 1: I'm in my tahoe front and smash all the pizza
Speaker 1: and food hit the floor board and I'm just sitting
Speaker 1: there like, oh snaps, I didn't pass out. I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't go blank. But immediately I'm like, yo, this
Speaker 1: is a heavy accident. So I reached and opened the
Speaker 1: door to my driver's door, which ironically was the only
Speaker 1: door that can open out of the total vehicle, and
Speaker 1: I opened it. I don't feel no pain nowhere. And
Speaker 1: then I get out and I'm I'm looking at my
Speaker 1: limbs because that's the first thing I'm concerned about. He's
Speaker 1: my money maker. I run and jump, you know. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, my legs is good. I got
Speaker 1: a little shortness in my chest from a steer wheel,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, yeah, I'm good. So then I'm moving
Speaker 1: my fingers. My right hand is moving like a thousand
Speaker 1: miles a minute, you know, everything's functional. And then my
Speaker 1: left hand it's almost a slow motion. So I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: something's over my hand. So I'm looking at my hand.
Speaker 1: Nothing in the wrong with my hand. I left my
Speaker 1: sweater up. My bone is displaced the radius and owner
Speaker 1: like the displaced not popping through the skin, but displaced
Speaker 1: about an inch. So I looked down and obviously I
Speaker 1: know I'm not I can't get back on the field
Speaker 1: right anytime soon. The first thing I said to myself,
Speaker 1: is damn, I just left up this season, right. I
Speaker 1: wasn't concerned about my season. I wasn't concerned about my stats.
Speaker 1: I was. I was concerned about the Detroit line season
Speaker 1: because yeah, we got Calvin the most dominant receiver I
Speaker 1: felt like at that time. But I was like I
Speaker 1: was like the glue kind of like that held it
Speaker 1: all together because Stafford when he dropped back and Calvin
Speaker 1: double covered, he knew like I was gonna get that
Speaker 1: rock for you. At that time, we was leading the
Speaker 1: league in quarterback receiver catch ratio. Right, So I looked
Speaker 1: at my car and I'm like, Yo, this is this.
Speaker 1: This is gonna end my career like I knew it.
Speaker 1: So to bring it off full circle, I feel like
Speaker 1: West was coming back because he's like, yeo, I kind
Speaker 1: of got pushed out. The only reason I say that
Speaker 1: because I kind of thought that, like I had a
Speaker 1: car accident that in my mind, after eleven years of football,
Speaker 1: like stop my career from continuing. I played eight games
Speaker 1: a year, had forty catches. So think about it. Last
Speaker 1: year I'm sitting here working for the network and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: in eight games, I gave the lead forty catch. You
Speaker 1: don't think in sixteen I can give you sixty or
Speaker 1: seventy or eighty. I still could run a jump. I
Speaker 1: still get open. So like I had to make that
Speaker 1: decision to say, you know what, my body's beat up.
Speaker 1: I'm taking you know, advil to get through practice. I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to take red bulls to get
Speaker 1: through the right So you know it's crazy. Is when
Speaker 1: I had to search you for my arm, the lady
Speaker 1: had pulled my blood, you know, and they run the
Speaker 1: test and she's like, your levels are way off, like
Speaker 1: you got way too much medication in your system. Like
Speaker 1: she's like, what kind of energy drinks are you're drinking.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't drink him that much. But
Speaker 1: it was so routine that with the energy drinks and
Speaker 1: trying to get up for practice and all these things.
Speaker 1: She was like, this shouldn't even like I don't see this.
Speaker 1: I don't see this. And then I feel you with
Speaker 1: your with your instance. But West West, yeah, he didn't
Speaker 1: say okay. So TV tell us he doesn't have a
Speaker 1: super Bowl, so maybe he's coming back for a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: But I don't believe you go out on your terms.
Speaker 1: And tell God or your body or something tells you
Speaker 1: the terms have changed, right, dude, concussions is nothing to
Speaker 1: mess with, bros. Like, that's facts. And for me, two,
Speaker 1: the money would have to be uh family altering, life
Speaker 1: altering money to come back to risk my good brain
Speaker 1: and and and my consciousness and and and all of
Speaker 1: that type of stuff. So to me, it's just a
Speaker 1: little different, a little different, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I think West, you know, I would I would
Speaker 1: guess to say, is his financial situation is okay? But
Speaker 1: I just hope West it's coming back for the right
Speaker 1: right reasons. I hope he's fully aware of all the
Speaker 1: risk because Nate Dog, I'm telling you, it ain't worth it, bro.
Speaker 1: The ultimate question in the NFL is is the risk
Speaker 1: worth the reward? The reward being money how much we
Speaker 1: get paid. The reward being the praise and the stage ruin,
Speaker 1: and the reward ultimately being that ring. But Nick, that's
Speaker 1: why when you're in the league, I tell young cats
Speaker 1: all the time, trust and I get about ten to
Speaker 1: fifteen young cats in this league called me every week.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, when you're in the league is when
Speaker 1: you're the most powerful you have to use it while
Speaker 1: you're in the league. That's why when I seen you
Speaker 1: a broadcast bootcat. But four years ago, it was like, boom,
Speaker 1: we're working on something. I got a chance to talk
Speaker 1: to you when you're like, dude, already know I ain't
Speaker 1: got much longer. Bro, I know what time it was,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, said some young guys reaching
Speaker 1: out to you? What what? What young guys have you
Speaker 1: talked to that you have actually seen, maybe not necessarily
Speaker 1: in their movements, but you know, how have they changed?
Speaker 1: Is there a guy that you can say, you know,
Speaker 1: this is one of my young puffs that I conversate with,
Speaker 1: and I've just seen his his kind of mindset change.
Speaker 1: Oh man, um, I look at it. I look at
Speaker 1: a young cat like and I'm not many people are
Speaker 1: probably familiar with him, but a cat like Booby Dixon.
Speaker 1: Um um uh, Anthony Dixon out running back out there
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. You know what I mean? He was a
Speaker 1: young cat with me in San Francisco, young wow cat
Speaker 1: right going out whatever like we all were. But to
Speaker 1: see him now role player, special team player. I used
Speaker 1: to always highlight him. Dog they got Frank Gore, You're
Speaker 1: not better than him? I'm just letting you know that. Okay,
Speaker 1: he ain't going nowhere for a while, all right. You
Speaker 1: gotta find another hustle, whether it's blocking on third down
Speaker 1: so that they may call a run play at some
Speaker 1: point you may get a chance to shoot, whether it's
Speaker 1: switching the full back, like the opportunity I had to
Speaker 1: make to get on the field. Come on, man, play
Speaker 1: special teams. Now, he's a special teamer doing this thing.
Speaker 1: Give an effort being with the team. Probably, he's probably
Speaker 1: in his career in Buffalo because he's that locked in
Speaker 1: the community. Because yeah, because Big Homie taught him that
Speaker 1: in San Francisco, got like Ricardo Locker. That's why you
Speaker 1: hate to see him going that last a few weeks ago.
Speaker 1: You know, I saw that kid going from wanting to
Speaker 1: do everything every night to now it's like, no, man,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get my I'm trying to I'm straight, man,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make sure my career is right. I'm
Speaker 1: getting my nutrition together, I'm doing my soft tissue work,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm studying this playbook. I'm
Speaker 1: talking to the special teams coach every week. How can
Speaker 1: I be in in the Pro Bowl? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Come on, Mike, show me how can how
Speaker 1: can I affect field position I had? Lockett would have
Speaker 1: never talked about field positions five years ago kids talking
Speaker 1: about field position five years ago, he was talking about
Speaker 1: how many passes he gonna catch specialties. That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: young guys gotta come into this league, not saying Okay
Speaker 1: I made it now this money gonna take me. You
Speaker 1: gotta come in saying okay, I'm here. How is this
Speaker 1: gonna make me going to the next part of my life?
Speaker 1: No matter how long I stay here? Because Nate, when
Speaker 1: they when when when Roger Goodell caused your name? That
Speaker 1: stop ward starts, bro it starts, And whether it's one year,
Speaker 1: five years, or fourteen years, at some point it's gonna
Speaker 1: be over, independent on how much football you played previous
Speaker 1: to that. Somebody might already have that clock start on you.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, your body's beat up, all right, man,
Speaker 1: don't get me started. I feel you, I feel your family.
Speaker 1: Come on now, I wish I could wrap. Hey, I
Speaker 1: need Twitter or somebody to help me. Send me a wrap,
Speaker 1: all right, hashtag are and be our capital R A
Speaker 1: N D. Don't put that sign with the Capital Bid,
Speaker 1: then at Nate at Nate thirteen Burlers a real mic
Speaker 1: rob Yes, sir, Come on, man, let's talk about it. Oh,
Speaker 1: send me something to wrap about, Send me a wrap. Damn.
Speaker 1: I wish I could wrap t d you. It's like
Speaker 1: a beer sweep perducer. Man. We got young thugger heating
Speaker 1: in here today, but we usually have young duck up
Speaker 1: in here. All right, let's talk to out. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about cam and in the first of all, congratulations on
Speaker 1: on balling out in the undefeated season. I don't care
Speaker 1: what people are talking about. Your numbers. Statistically, you in
Speaker 1: the m v P race and your team is undefeated. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that deserved an applause. Now y'reing a round of applause.
Speaker 1: Julius Peppers denied, you know, giving him the ball, right,
Speaker 1: Come on, JP, don't be a hater dog. I know,
Speaker 1: J I thought that was more. It was like more
Speaker 1: and kind of like good humor, like almost like show
Speaker 1: each other, you know, people kind of got bent out
Speaker 1: of shape. I thought he was like, man, get out.
Speaker 1: I think it was. But it was awesome, I know, JP,
Speaker 1: like good, yeah, great dude, But it was also a
Speaker 1: hating movie. I mean he I don't think he deny
Speaker 1: that well. I mean, you know there's people that go
Speaker 1: at Cam like you know, since he's been in the league.
Speaker 1: There's people that that kind of want to outshine him,
Speaker 1: which is hard to they don't keep it funking. You've
Speaker 1: been you've been opposition to Camp. I'm saying, listen, well, listen,
Speaker 1: Carolina came to Detroit one year and uh, and Cam
Speaker 1: did his little thing, did his little Superman and I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'm in the hotel to night before.
Speaker 1: This is when I was kind of in my what's
Speaker 1: a polite word I can use kind of like the
Speaker 1: jerk phase of separations. Two phases. For me, it's uh,
Speaker 1: pure creativity, so I can get people talking like yo,
Speaker 1: I like that. And then there was a phase where
Speaker 1: I wanted to mock every team I played are their
Speaker 1: favorite players. I wanted to incite some type of like
Speaker 1: ill will so they can get mad, we can get mad,
Speaker 1: and you know we can win the game. Cam comes,
Speaker 1: he scores, he does his thing, and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: when I get in the end zone, I'm about to
Speaker 1: open up to Cape like he does. You open up
Speaker 1: the shirts. But then ilmost zip it up. I was dope,
Speaker 1: I can't live. I was feeling I did that, and
Speaker 1: you know, people on Twitter went crazy. I was feeling like,
Speaker 1: come on, they that's in poor taste. But like, listen
Speaker 1: that the best form of you know, flattery is imitation.
Speaker 1: So you know, it's basically me saying, you know, Cam,
Speaker 1: listen one, I recognize the fact of your bother. That's
Speaker 1: the reason I know your celebration and too, like, I'm
Speaker 1: out here too, like I get this on two. So
Speaker 1: I feel like when people like do that, it's more
Speaker 1: of a sign of respect than it is, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: them being disrespectful. I think you're right. I I think
Speaker 1: you're right, Nate. And again, they have a past relationship.
Speaker 1: Obviously they you know, they've played each other for while,
Speaker 1: I've been teammates or whatever whatever. But um, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take it a little stuff further. Man, all the haters
Speaker 1: on Cam and yours was more of a more of
Speaker 1: a competitive type of type of deal. But I'm talking
Speaker 1: about all the people that doubted him because of his swag,
Speaker 1: doubt of him because of the way he carried himself
Speaker 1: in press conference. And now, yeah, the cat was a
Speaker 1: little immature. I have seen him at it. I seen
Speaker 1: I've seen him at different functions and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: yeah he speak or whatever, and I'm like, whoa, you know,
Speaker 1: I just you know whatever he lately again lately, that's
Speaker 1: what happens. The maturity happens in the league. Dude, cats
Speaker 1: coming to the league. People don't sta, but how many
Speaker 1: times how many times do a cat actually get a
Speaker 1: chance to mature. A lot of times that out of
Speaker 1: the league before they're done mature. They don't know that
Speaker 1: what they had until it's gone. We've seen this cat
Speaker 1: grow up, man, and to see him making the passage,
Speaker 1: to see his team underfeeded. They've always had the defense,
Speaker 1: they got the run game. He were talking about him
Speaker 1: in m v P. I mean, come on, bro see
Speaker 1: how to see how he carries himself. Las Even last
Speaker 1: year when he was banged up, and I remember he
Speaker 1: was doing a press conference. He was like, I mean,
Speaker 1: if I if I got to play, I'm gonna play.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go against the head coach. But I
Speaker 1: could tell he wanted to say, like, I'm hurting, I
Speaker 1: shouldn't be out there. And that's my concern. This year,
Speaker 1: he's running the football Okay, we're not talking about come on,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the respect for Cam. So this is
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. What guys come to mind when
Speaker 1: you think about ultimate respect? Because right now I feel
Speaker 1: like Kim is one of those guys that he has
Speaker 1: respect across the league. You know, guys like me that
Speaker 1: are done playing, guys that are still playing, and you know,
Speaker 1: the young people love Cam like my son's love him.
Speaker 1: And and I I promote that a black man playing
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the NFL that is articulate, funny and
Speaker 1: engaging in his press conferences like I love that man.
Speaker 1: So what God, what guys when you played, our guys
Speaker 1: that are currently playing that she had ultimate respect? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta respect for every guy in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: But then there's certain guys you had to you cut
Speaker 1: your eye too when they walk in. Yeah. A guy,
Speaker 1: A guy that has UH, A guy that I really
Speaker 1: have put, not put on a pedestal, but looked up
Speaker 1: to and respected. Everything about him is tight end from
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints Ben Watson UH and one of the
Speaker 1: best seasons, one of the best seasons of his career.
Speaker 1: Family guy UH, A guy values, a guy purpose, a guy,
Speaker 1: a believer. Um uh, a guy with a social conscious.
Speaker 1: I'm always believing that you gotta be about more than
Speaker 1: just football. You just have to that's that's our responsibility
Speaker 1: to the young people. And he is that man. He
Speaker 1: writes on social issues. Talked to him a lot. Maybe
Speaker 1: we have some of the same um people in marketing
Speaker 1: or whatever. Great, dude, many great, I feel you. Man.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of guys that come to mind. I
Speaker 1: remember playing the Ravens and you know, this is when
Speaker 1: Ray Lewis is still there, and you know you hear
Speaker 1: about Ray You've seen the pictures and the videos of
Speaker 1: him doing his intro, and you know we're all saying, like,
Speaker 1: look when they do the intro, like, let's focus on
Speaker 1: the field, don't even look over there. Trying to be tough.
Speaker 1: But in my head, I'm like, yo, like I want
Speaker 1: to see this intro. So I'm like cutting my eyes.
Speaker 1: Like he comes out, he does a little shimmy and
Speaker 1: the music in the fireways, I'm like, yo, that was fresh.
Speaker 1: But he's one of those guys that I had ultimate
Speaker 1: respect for. Calvin Johnson is another one. He's one of
Speaker 1: the first younger guys that I play with that did
Speaker 1: everything right, quiet, not a diva, wanted to outwork his
Speaker 1: money every day, never complain, play through injury. All he
Speaker 1: wants to do is win and help his team in
Speaker 1: So Calvin was one of those guys so real quickly
Speaker 1: he's got to do an episode one of these days.
Speaker 1: You obviously more Shawn. That is your boy, right, and
Speaker 1: then you have Calvin. Those are two of the biggest
Speaker 1: stars in the generation. We go to the episode, whether
Speaker 1: they're guests or just talking about we Gotta we Got,
Speaker 1: and they're both extremely quiet, but we know they're both
Speaker 1: funny individuals. Extreme Calvin's quiet, but that dude is goofy
Speaker 1: and he is funny talking about talking about the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: I'm glad he brought up Marshawn my dog Russell from Richmond,
Speaker 1: love him to death like a little bro. Russell Wilson,
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. But dog on your bye week? Bro? What's
Speaker 1: up with those photos? What's up with them to the
Speaker 1: stage photos? Yeah? Man, how do you know? Why are
Speaker 1: you staying Sierra? But but Dog, come on, man, you're
Speaker 1: in the middle of the season. You already know what
Speaker 1: the perception is. I know what your man. Do whatever
Speaker 1: you want but who's taking the pictures? They got a photographer.
Speaker 1: They looked like they was in a photo shoot. Man,
Speaker 1: that's what it was. You know, I'm gonna just keep
Speaker 1: around be like, hey, baby, listen, I ain't got time
Speaker 1: for the photo shoot. This is my bye week, and
Speaker 1: let's just go chick by the pool and have a
Speaker 1: decori or something like. That's what I would be on.
Speaker 1: But you know, hey, but listen, Russell's a super duper
Speaker 1: Sierra is a super duper star. And maybe when super
Speaker 1: duper stars collide, they do super duper star stuff where
Speaker 1: like you photo shooting the middle of the day after prunch.
Speaker 1: But you know, hey, I know, but keeping funking on that,
Speaker 1: keep it funking. It's a little extra. Boy. Taylor, who
Speaker 1: works for the network, he calls, He's like that you extra,
Speaker 1: he said, But I love that about you because you
Speaker 1: always extra. Those pictures is extra. That's just extra over there,
Speaker 1: a man, you gotta but you know, bye, hey, the
Speaker 1: bye week is for the individual. You do what you
Speaker 1: wanna do. We both had them by the rest up
Speaker 1: right on to you gotta rest up, man, you got them? Uh,
Speaker 1: you gonna pay for seventy something? Sacks I feel you.
Speaker 1: I feel you get that. Hopefully this will you know,
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Speaker 1: talk about talk about talk about talking about talking about
Speaker 1: Greg Hardy. Oh man, that's it's so hard to talk about. Man,
Speaker 1: that dude be out there running this mouth kind of
Speaker 1: turned up on the field. I'd be like, Yo, just
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