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Speaker 1: we made it through. We did it. We're here. How
Speaker 1: you doing good? How are you good? Stephen and I
Speaker 1: celebrated us seven year anniversary. I know you were doing
Speaker 1: the math and I was like, I'm pretty sure it
Speaker 1: has to be seven base based on our comedy. Do
Speaker 1: I know? But I've been saying seven for like a
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Speaker 1: like whatever year in five months, You're like, yeah, yes, year, Yeah,
Speaker 1: always exaggerating time, always fun. Why. I wasn't feeling well,
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Speaker 1: We pulled out the couch bed, which I was so excited.
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Speaker 1: I think you did that one at the time. That's
Speaker 1: like a hurry like hurricane behavior. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because tour it's you know, it's exhausting and you want
Speaker 1: to be home. You just want to sit there like
Speaker 1: a lump. But it was nice. It's sweet because we're
Speaker 1: Chris Steven and I are very um we really like
Speaker 1: each other like a lot, and I think that's I
Speaker 1: think the word like almost has more of a meaning
Speaker 1: to me now than love because everybody over uses the
Speaker 1: word love all the time. And so I looked in
Speaker 1: his eyes the other day or yesterday, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I really like you. And I was like, that's kind
Speaker 1: of nice to really like your partner after seven years.
Speaker 1: It's just still have sex, right, love loves Sometimes I
Speaker 1: was like, it's like, well, I don't always like you,
Speaker 1: but I love you kind of thing right, exactly right.
Speaker 1: It's it's harder to I think, to like someone than
Speaker 1: to love them, and uh, and I really like it. Well,
Speaker 1: it depends. I mean, like there's in in love is
Speaker 1: like the hardest to to sustain, and then like is
Speaker 1: the next hardest, and then like just to love, like
Speaker 1: in meaning that you care for someone, yeah, is the
Speaker 1: least hard. Yeah, I agree, because you kind of throw
Speaker 1: that on people. Yeah, that's true. I do all the time.
Speaker 1: But it's nice. I always I've always wondered what it
Speaker 1: would be like to be in a relationship for this
Speaker 1: many years. And it's fun, that's all I got. Really good.
Speaker 1: That's good. That's positive. Yeah, it's good be with somebody
Speaker 1: you like, Okay, people, Well, I mean hopefully Jesus. I
Speaker 1: feel like so many people aren't though, or like they
Speaker 1: stay with somebody because you've been together so long and
Speaker 1: it's a comfort thing, which I do understand. Yeah, I understand,
Speaker 1: I guess especially if you have kids. I understand that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like James life. He's like one of
Speaker 1: my favorite people. Yeah, and that's that's wonderful. But that's
Speaker 1: how it should be of to like people. I know. UM.
Speaker 1: And then a lot of people have been contacting us
Speaker 1: about UH to talk about the Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act. Again,
Speaker 1: these are a lot of people, you know that there's
Speaker 1: a lot of Obviously it affects sex workers greatly, so
Speaker 1: a lot of the people have been asking us to
Speaker 1: speak about it our sex workers. So I read up
Speaker 1: about it a little bit. I mean, you know, it's
Speaker 1: hard to understand laws and stuff. I mean, I generally
Speaker 1: what generally what's happening is, UM that the United States
Speaker 1: bill was introduced by this guy, Senator Rob Portman, and
Speaker 1: it's trying to clarify the country's sex trafficking law to
Speaker 1: make it illegal to knowingly assists, facilitate or support sex trafficking. UM.
Speaker 1: And basically it will make it like websites like Craigslist
Speaker 1: and stuff would then be responsible for activity that happened
Speaker 1: on their website if it then lead to sex trafficking.
Speaker 1: So but they're kind of it's seems like they're kind
Speaker 1: of using that as also, let's crack down on sex working,
Speaker 1: right and not allow that either, right, right, and which
Speaker 1: it is illegal in almost every state, right. And and
Speaker 1: there's also like a part about prostitution and that's the
Speaker 1: word they're using, not the word I'm using. So calm
Speaker 1: the funk down. Um, I'm just I'm so amped up
Speaker 1: every Like it's like it's so it's so stressful to
Speaker 1: be a comedian and already have people constantly shutting down
Speaker 1: and then to have a podcast where you think you
Speaker 1: can speak freely and then literally get a note on
Speaker 1: everything out of your mouth. So it's like that makes
Speaker 1: me want to murder people. And I'm not even a
Speaker 1: violent person. Um, but uh, so I think anything that
Speaker 1: kind of could slip into the prostitution area they're also
Speaker 1: trying to kind of crack down on. So it's like
Speaker 1: this package called ses fosta sesta um and uh and
Speaker 1: a lot of it's also been criticized by a lot
Speaker 1: of people who are very into a free speech, which
Speaker 1: obviously I'm super behind um because it's just like this,
Speaker 1: it's this thing like who is liable for behavior? And
Speaker 1: it's like, well, you know, you would think that the
Speaker 1: person doing the behavior is liable for it. Because when
Speaker 1: you're when you're putting liability into the hands of like
Speaker 1: kind of this umbrella, it becomes difficult. You know, like
Speaker 1: what if we said something on our podcast and then
Speaker 1: someone went out and did something because they interpreted what
Speaker 1: we said incorrectly, which does happen a lot um, but
Speaker 1: that's out of our control right exactly. So it's like,
Speaker 1: so you know, it's like how how much you have
Speaker 1: to look into every nook and cranny. A lot of
Speaker 1: times when you're dealing with sex trafficking, you're using code
Speaker 1: words and language that you would have to then hire
Speaker 1: like a research team to kind of look behind. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you look into high level sex trafficking, especially child
Speaker 1: sex trafficking, there's a ton of uh words that are
Speaker 1: like fake words that are being used that's like a
Speaker 1: code language. So I mean, so it's like you could
Speaker 1: be really held responsible for someone talking about you know,
Speaker 1: for instance, like lasagna uh and you, and so it's
Speaker 1: like you can't do it. You would have to have
Speaker 1: like a human being who is then well versed in
Speaker 1: sex trafficking. And it's like, if you're so well versed
Speaker 1: in sex trafficking, you probably would be like on a
Speaker 1: police force. Yeah, I was gonna say, why you so
Speaker 1: well versed in sex trafficking where it's it's very it's
Speaker 1: very it's very difficult. Um. But usually when sex workers
Speaker 1: are angry about something or say this is not right,
Speaker 1: I usually just side with them because they're usually always right,
Speaker 1: constantly getting shipped on exactly. And then you know, you
Speaker 1: have the sex workers have so much to stand up
Speaker 1: for that has to be so fucking exhausting. Obviously they're
Speaker 1: standing up for something and they're saying, hey, this is
Speaker 1: something that you need to be paying attention to write
Speaker 1: because you do want it to be safe. And like
Speaker 1: we do obviously as a country really really need to
Speaker 1: crack down on sex trafficking. But even the thing is
Speaker 1: like the highest level sex sex trafficking is a hundred
Speaker 1: percent going on in the government and Hollywood, so it's
Speaker 1: never really going to be stopped anyway because there's people
Speaker 1: paying each other off and it's all this kind of
Speaker 1: like Illuminati inside ship. So I think, you know what,
Speaker 1: no rules that, let's just cancel all rules and lost.
Speaker 1: That's my thing because I just don't think anything is
Speaker 1: gonna work because so let's resell emails, all right? This
Speaker 1: one is called could sleeping with another man fixed a relationship? Sure? Hey,
Speaker 1: Karen and Christina, First off, huge fan, won't take up
Speaker 1: too much of your time blaberating on about how awesome
Speaker 1: you guys are, because you already know that. Thank God,
Speaker 1: thank you, blah blah blah. Okay, I honestly I don't
Speaker 1: even read these things anywhere. We appreciate it though we
Speaker 1: really do, but no one else wants to hear it
Speaker 1: besides us, which we hey, we love hearing. Alright, here goes.
Speaker 1: I'm almost twenty three year old, and I lost my
Speaker 1: virginity at nineteen to someone who I'm still in a
Speaker 1: relationship with and have been for about three years. With
Speaker 1: all the normal stressful things that happen in life, we
Speaker 1: have our moments where we drive each other crazy and
Speaker 1: getting this angry tip for tat nagging funk that we
Speaker 1: can sometimes be in for days. One of us, not me,
Speaker 1: is not that great at communicating feelings. After multiple attempts
Speaker 1: to get my partner to be open and talk about things,
Speaker 1: it's hard sometimes to solve the problem without using sex
Speaker 1: as the solution. Interesting, my sex drive is not as
Speaker 1: high as my partners, and I'm wondering if that's because
Speaker 1: of the funk that never fully gets resolved. Very well,
Speaker 1: could be I'm curious of trying to sleep with someone
Speaker 1: else would increase my limido, and that didn't go where.
Speaker 1: We'll let me get out of my frustrations. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie and say I've thought about an open relation uh,
Speaker 1: and say I've thought about an open relationship or trying
Speaker 1: new things in bed, not just to see if that helps,
Speaker 1: but to have a different sexual experience since I've only
Speaker 1: ever been with one person. And there you go. You
Speaker 1: just answered your own question in your email, as often happens, um.
Speaker 1: But then my subconscious sinks in telling me not to
Speaker 1: try to try. Maybe it's because I'm of my religion
Speaker 1: and high grew up Catholic, or because I'm afraid of
Speaker 1: what might happen. I'd love to hear what you girls
Speaker 1: think and take as much input as you can think of. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: this is Yeah. As I said, you answered your own
Speaker 1: question in the email. You sleeping with another person is
Speaker 1: not the resolution, and you never do that when your relationship.
Speaker 1: Thank great. Yeah, and it's certainly like you can sleep
Speaker 1: with another person and that might be what you need
Speaker 1: right now, but you need to then first get out
Speaker 1: of this relationship that you're currently in. Um. And I mean,
Speaker 1: like if it depends, you have to say, like, what's
Speaker 1: more important me, uh, just you know, kind of looking
Speaker 1: into my sexuality further or Yeah, she's twenty, she's almost
Speaker 1: twenty three. She's been in this relationship since she's nineteen.
Speaker 1: So it's the time when everyone gets that, yeah, to
Speaker 1: go out. I mean yeah, getting in a really serious
Speaker 1: relationship that young is intense, and uh, you might need
Speaker 1: to go out and uh explore, explore, don't do it
Speaker 1: while you're and also that you think this guy or
Speaker 1: girl your partner is going to be like yeah, another
Speaker 1: person that'll be better. Yeah, And I mean there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that are you're that you probably need
Speaker 1: to still work on in the relationship internally as far
Speaker 1: as like having conversations. I mean it seems maybe like
Speaker 1: if you're going about this kind of like frustration funk. Uh,
Speaker 1: you maybe approach it from a different way. I'm guessing
Speaker 1: like if you've been this relationship for a couple of years,
Speaker 1: you're probably approaching the conversation in a similar wage time.
Speaker 1: So kind of like shake things up a bit. Or
Speaker 1: if you're really invested in the relationship, this is the
Speaker 1: perfect opportunity to go to a couple's counselor because that's
Speaker 1: when you're having trouble communicating and you're just really not
Speaker 1: getting the results you want from the communication. That's exactly
Speaker 1: what a what a couple's therapist is for. Um, you
Speaker 1: could do it online, you could do it in person.
Speaker 1: Uh and then yeah, and then if not, kind of
Speaker 1: just voice what you're what you're feeling, what exactly what
Speaker 1: you said to us, Just say to your partners, say listen,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like these funks last for days. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm having like I'm putting um myself on
Speaker 1: the line and maybe not getting kind of the communication
Speaker 1: I need from you. I mean, I know you're not
Speaker 1: supposed to like blame, use blaming words or whatever, so
Speaker 1: just that it's very hard though, I feel right like
Speaker 1: we can't talk because just not difficult to talk like.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm I'm I'm having trouble getting through
Speaker 1: to you. That's a good way to put it. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm having hitting trouble getting through to you,
Speaker 1: and that a lot of times we resolve things with sex,
Speaker 1: and I enjoy having sex with you, but I also
Speaker 1: kind of want to explore other things. And I mean
Speaker 1: start with the communication and then work outwards into the
Speaker 1: thoughts of sex sexual exploration, because the communication is the
Speaker 1: base and that needs to be fixed first. But just
Speaker 1: randomly another person, there's a bad idea, Yes, not gonna
Speaker 1: that's not gonna do any good. It's the same as
Speaker 1: like having a baby or like to fix something like
Speaker 1: you're just not a good idea, not a good idea.
Speaker 1: Here's another not good idea, well, not good situation. Subject
Speaker 1: line of this email is my father in law gives
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Speaker 1: my boyfriend and I. I don't really know who else
Speaker 1: to ask. Oh, so it's not her actual father in law. No,
Speaker 1: it seems like it is. No it's her, well, she said, boyfriend.
Speaker 1: So they're not married, so it can't be a father
Speaker 1: in law. Oh yeah, you're right. It's like when people
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Speaker 1: in domestic partnership. So I've been with my boyfriend for
Speaker 1: two and a half years and we have a one
Speaker 1: year old son together. When I first met his dad,
Speaker 1: there wasn't any weird feelings, But the more I got
Speaker 1: to know him, the more he creeped me out. He's
Speaker 1: in his late sixties, coke bottle glasses and usually smells
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Speaker 1: seen our son since he was about five months old.
Speaker 1: I'm not the type of person to force people to
Speaker 1: be in my son's life, and he rarely asks to
Speaker 1: see him. About a year ago, my boyfriend told me
Speaker 1: that his brother walked in on him the dad masturbating
Speaker 1: in the living room. Two very loud porn on the
Speaker 1: d V. I don't shame anyone for either of those things,
Speaker 1: as I do them myself, but I can't get that
Speaker 1: image out of my head when I see him, and
Speaker 1: I'm so afraid that he doesn't wash his hands afterwards.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know that. The thought of him,
Speaker 1: the thought of him doing that, not washing his hands
Speaker 1: and then holding my son makes me sick to my stomach. Well,
Speaker 1: that was jumped a lot there. He has gotten to
Speaker 1: the point where, on the rare occasion he does ask
Speaker 1: to visit our son, I get very anxious and find
Speaker 1: reasons not to, which has only been two times. I
Speaker 1: just feel very uncomfortable around him after hearing that. I've
Speaker 1: asked my mom her opinion, and she thinks it's because
Speaker 1: I was sexually assaulted twice in the past and harbor
Speaker 1: anxious feelings towards men. I am not close to my
Speaker 1: boyfriend's mom, who isn't with him with the Dad understands though,
Speaker 1: and says, don't put yourself in situations you aren't comfortable in.
Speaker 1: But I feel like I should meet him in public
Speaker 1: places with my boyfriend so he can see his grandson.
Speaker 1: He's never given me a reason to be creeped out.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do anymore, and it's upsetting
Speaker 1: my boyfriend, which is understandable because that's his father. Any
Speaker 1: advice would be awesome, even though as I wrote this,
Speaker 1: I started to feel so stupid. Uh. I started to
Speaker 1: feel like it is so stupid to feel that way
Speaker 1: about a person who hasn't given me any reason to it. Again,
Speaker 1: you kind of answered you in question. Thanks for all
Speaker 1: you do. Love the podcast, you lays rock. Thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't. He masturbated in the living room. That's not
Speaker 1: even Alfred thinks that's stupid. It's going I don't know
Speaker 1: what the hell, What the hell's happening in the hallway.
Speaker 1: We had a person recently come to my door wanting
Speaker 1: to sell me a different type of energy and I
Speaker 1: and she was like, what's your contact info? And I
Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, So I don't know if I
Speaker 1: think I got through it door. But anyway, Uh, your
Speaker 1: father in law didn't do anything creepy. He did something.
Speaker 1: He masturbated. If he lives alone, he's not with his
Speaker 1: wife anymore. Yeah, the porn is gonna be loud. He's
Speaker 1: in his sixties. Maybe he needs higher volume. Yeah, this is,
Speaker 1: but it's also like masturbate in the living room if
Speaker 1: I lived alone. You're holding something that like something you
Speaker 1: shouldn't even know about to begin with, Uh, do you
Speaker 1: masturbate and you do the same thing your instincts on
Speaker 1: its silly to feel this way? Are are right? You
Speaker 1: feel this way for a reason. I don't know what
Speaker 1: the root is. Maybe your mom is right about you
Speaker 1: feeling anxious around other men. That's something I would go
Speaker 1: to therapy for. Seriously, nip that in the bud. Well,
Speaker 1: it's all I mean. But it's also like even like
Speaker 1: I can understand, I understand why you feel that way
Speaker 1: a percent, but it is not fair to him um
Speaker 1: to use those feelings so that he cannot see his grandson.
Speaker 1: So if that makes sense, So I understand you being
Speaker 1: creeped about him. He kind of has these things that
Speaker 1: makes him unappealing as a human being, which is totally fair.
Speaker 1: But you don't have to bone him, so don't worry
Speaker 1: about that. You don't have You don't even have to
Speaker 1: hunt them. If it might be nice to give him
Speaker 1: like a little you know, a kind of a hug
Speaker 1: where you put like something like you're accidentally wearing like
Speaker 1: a Fannie pack so you can't get too close to
Speaker 1: him or something you had a middle school dance because
Speaker 1: really like that kind of a thing. You're wearing a
Speaker 1: backpack on the front and you can't take it off
Speaker 1: for some reason during the hug. Um, So that's totally fine.
Speaker 1: And he does kind of have a lot of these
Speaker 1: uh attributes. That's that seem a little weirds and the
Speaker 1: smell Sometimes people creep me out and I know in
Speaker 1: my head they logically didn't do anything weird. That's just there,
Speaker 1: and that's how you feel. It's a seem when you're
Speaker 1: looking for a partner. Like sometimes I'll meet someone who
Speaker 1: I'm attracted to visually and then I'll just smell them
Speaker 1: and I'll be like nope, And there's no reason. It's
Speaker 1: not even like a bad smell. It's just like smell
Speaker 1: that I don't like. Um. So, yeah, we totally understand
Speaker 1: the feelings. But yeah, your boyfriend has every right to
Speaker 1: be mad because it's not Um, he hasn't done anything.
Speaker 1: Masturbating is not illegal or gross, and good for him,
Speaker 1: he's in his sixties, is still jerking it. Because it's
Speaker 1: also like I mean, there's a lot. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: sure you're not gonna like I'm just picturing the guy
Speaker 1: from up jerking off in the living, but if you
Speaker 1: have you actually had like come on his hands, I'm
Speaker 1: sure he wiped it off. And you know a lot
Speaker 1: of people do gross things without washing their hands, so
Speaker 1: you can't really live life. And you know, as someone
Speaker 1: with O c D saying this is very difficult for
Speaker 1: me because I constantly don't want to touch people because
Speaker 1: I see people's behavior in public restrooms and it is appalling. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you just got this is you gotta get
Speaker 1: out of that. The headspace is. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: it's kind of like seeing like it's someone that you
Speaker 1: are in love with take a dump. Though accidentally it
Speaker 1: doesn't charge you when I see it. But it's natural.
Speaker 1: When I see a turd in a public restroom, it
Speaker 1: ruins my day, you know, you know, when you like
Speaker 1: accidentally walk in the person for some reasons didn't flush,
Speaker 1: Like no matter how little or big that turd is,
Speaker 1: I even about it, the tip of it get upset.
Speaker 1: I think about it for every time I sit down
Speaker 1: at a meal for the rest of the called puff
Speaker 1: and a bowl of milk. I think about that turd,
Speaker 1: and that is kind of like your phone, you know,
Speaker 1: I know what you say doesn't really affect. And the
Speaker 1: turd is there, and it's naturally there because the person's
Speaker 1: digesting the food. They should have flushed. They should have flushed,
Speaker 1: but maybe they did and it's spit the Sometimes that happens,
Speaker 1: and you gotta do double checks. What do you what
Speaker 1: do you when you when you poop? Oh? Man, how
Speaker 1: do we not have a TV show? Alright? I don't
Speaker 1: know we should have a television show. In the fact
Speaker 1: that we don't, it's like a It's like a lonely
Speaker 1: turd floating in a public restroom in Central Park, just
Speaker 1: waiting for somebody to flush it through the TV channels.
Speaker 1: That made sense in my head, but when I said
Speaker 1: it out loud, I didn't. Oh, alright, let's shift, father
Speaker 1: in law, hold you fucking kid. Make sure there's no
Speaker 1: jis on his hands. I am sure there isn't. He's
Speaker 1: probably lonely and that sucks. And you know, just you
Speaker 1: masturbate too, You know, I really try and be cognizant
Speaker 1: of not holding men to that double standard. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, women get women feel the double standard negativity
Speaker 1: I think a lot more. But also you still want
Speaker 1: to make sure you're not doing that to men. That's
Speaker 1: not right. And uh, you know he's not. He's trying.
Speaker 1: You know, he's just living his life. He's he's he's
Speaker 1: jerking off in his living room. That's real fun off
Speaker 1: your living room. I haven't done that a while. He
Speaker 1: only has two times. And honestly, like you know, everyone
Speaker 1: knows grandfathers are less interesting, so he's not gonna really
Speaker 1: ask again. He'll meet the b You'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a fucking baby. I know him now. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I'll be over it. So, you know, just rip that
Speaker 1: band aid off. Is that a give you some to
Speaker 1: the turd floating in the toilet? Who's a good person?
Speaker 1: It means well probably, Oh my god. If you want
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Speaker 1: promote on our social media a lot. So that's where
Speaker 1: to get all this ship. That's what you know what's up.
Speaker 1: You look at pictures of currents, but and you can
Speaker 1: look at me on bathroom floors. So and Alfred who's
Speaker 1: here today? Which is why you'll hear all the parking
Speaker 1: and I'll never be allowed back. No, it's um alright
Speaker 1: mine right, okay. Our guest, our guests plural, very exciting,
Speaker 1: um are they're they're comedic singers and songwriters. Separately. They
Speaker 1: are known as their names, which are Katie Frame and
Speaker 1: Marie cecil Anderson. They're in an amazing band that tours
Speaker 1: all over the country. You guys have to see them
Speaker 1: if they're in your town. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome
Speaker 1: to guys. We fucked. There are foreign tours sicking tod
Speaker 1: of the same routine and craving something new. I thought
Speaker 1: that in my bit town just to Homespit Chopped and
Speaker 1: Trinity Charleston Dust and Julie by you. I'm gonna ate
Speaker 1: as six y'all text tonight and do what I gotta do.
Speaker 1: Heaven given the phone made and but I'm not staying
Speaker 1: in note tonight. I'm eating as I'm an open medicanic
Speaker 1: goalp never been and picky eater, and you know there's
Speaker 1: nothing sweeter than the taste of the latest beaver. No
Speaker 1: ball made it hard a man, I'm throwing your first food.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna dive his first to a five course meal.
Speaker 1: That's f I got god out. I'm get the van,
Speaker 1: but I'm not saying it no tonight, I'm eating out.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to once in college. But they can't handle
Speaker 1: the baby fain. He just a disticate, a pellet to
Speaker 1: enjoy this hard on tree somethings gun drop, sweet as pie, color,
Speaker 1: very kind of lingers a lie, So man, WU never
Speaker 1: see me again? Want to take up by hat in
Speaker 1: the rear formed boy? Yeah, we guys have we Okay,
Speaker 1: we go back because I was saying where we got here?
Speaker 1: We booked them on our forever. They've been do over
Speaker 1: eight years, and uh, I wanted to I was curious
Speaker 1: to ask you, guys, if you get tired of being
Speaker 1: labeled as the as pigeonholed the category of sex, even
Speaker 1: though yours is music and comedy, but it's still sex.
Speaker 1: At the forefront because of the name, because everybody, like,
Speaker 1: I feel like when they see that in the name,
Speaker 1: they're like, when we talk about sex a lot, and
Speaker 1: yeah exactly, So does that ever get old for you
Speaker 1: or do people's reactions ever get too much for you?
Speaker 1: It definitely gets old a little bit. There's some of
Speaker 1: that we and we try to like mix it up
Speaker 1: a little bit too. We we found too if like
Speaker 1: if our whole set is just like yeah, then it
Speaker 1: gets like it just gets to be audition yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and for the audience and stuff, So we try to
Speaker 1: mix it up. We're trying to get some things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, how many times since we come into a
Speaker 1: music venue and they're like, the hors are here that
Speaker 1: I never get sick? That's fun, gets trademarked. Yeah, we've
Speaker 1: been in the paper a lot because of the name
Speaker 1: of our bands. Right, it's a great name. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: how did you guys decide to just start specifically the
Speaker 1: Reformed tours? Like that's it's a very specific idea. We
Speaker 1: just felt asked backwards into it. Really. Yeah, absolutely, we
Speaker 1: we like, well, we went at a party and the
Speaker 1: comedy party or just like social part the actors party,
Speaker 1: and we like it was it was reciting Shakespeare and
Speaker 1: ship we were seconds away from doing monologues. Uh there
Speaker 1: was a subway performer that had been hired that day
Speaker 1: and a tiny, tiny Brooklyn studio apartment. Wow. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: had met this girl from Howard Howard what is it
Speaker 1: Michael Howards? Like he introduceds no, the Howard Michael Howard
Speaker 1: studio studio. And so I met her that way, the
Speaker 1: Birthday girl. And I didn't you know, I did like
Speaker 1: a children's play with her. Yeah, she's a great actress. Yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 1: when we met at that party, and we were like, oh,
Speaker 1: we should start a band just like from that, and
Speaker 1: then I came over that week and then we started
Speaker 1: the band. Just so you started talking and like you
Speaker 1: found out your funny and musical or we didn't even
Speaker 1: know we were just that was a crap shooting you,
Speaker 1: but you was really good instinct. We just really hit
Speaker 1: it off. I mean, were I didn't know anybody else
Speaker 1: at this party. We know the birthday girl. She had
Speaker 1: told me that this girl Katie was coming to the
Speaker 1: party and that I would really like her. That was
Speaker 1: like a yeah, so then, um, but I was actually like,
Speaker 1: oh man, because Meryl said like, oh, she's another actress,
Speaker 1: you'll can talk about acting. And I was like, oh god,
Speaker 1: I don't need any more actor friends in New York
Speaker 1: City where we met. Actor friends are special. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: very specific, yeah, very traumatic. But Katie, like I had
Speaker 1: an instant girl crush on her, Like we we ended
Speaker 1: up talking all night at this party. We both were
Speaker 1: going through I guess I wasn't going through a breakup,
Speaker 1: but we had gotten in. My boyfriend at the time, like,
Speaker 1: had gotten in a big fight that day. So I
Speaker 1: remember you and your boyfriend. I thought, like, your boyfriend
Speaker 1: got a huge fight. No he do anything, No, but
Speaker 1: we had gotten a uh, non physical fight verbal yeah,
Speaker 1: And um I came to the party wearing glasses too
Speaker 1: because I've been crying and stuff and so but Katie
Speaker 1: just like we just I just opened up and we
Speaker 1: talked and talked and talked in them. By the end,
Speaker 1: we were like, we should start a band. It's no, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so normal. Really had a band, So why that's
Speaker 1: really sweet and kind of like friendship romantic. Yes, it
Speaker 1: was nice and we just started writing songs about like
Speaker 1: our relationships and stuff, and it kind of naturally became well,
Speaker 1: love and sex and stuff. So then when I found
Speaker 1: the name, my my roommate at the time had a
Speaker 1: Spotify playlist called reform Tours, and I was like, that
Speaker 1: is such a cool concept and I identify. So I
Speaker 1: brought it some marine. It's like, let's do it. And
Speaker 1: there's the original concept that the songs be funny or
Speaker 1: did that come later? It's always funny, It just work. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just wasn't capable of writing a song. I mean
Speaker 1: that was part of my things tried and it feels
Speaker 1: silly sometimes, yeah, because it's like when you try to
Speaker 1: write a really serious poem, you're like, this could be
Speaker 1: good or this could be terrible. That's why I love karaoke,
Speaker 1: because when you see those like really dramatic nineties love
Speaker 1: ballads and it's like, oh god, it's so it's so
Speaker 1: much drama, but it's really funny. Yeah, that's awesome. So yeah,
Speaker 1: and look at us now, Yeah, you guys are crushing.
Speaker 1: You're always on the road, You're always Have you ever
Speaker 1: had anything Have you ever had anybody react to the
Speaker 1: name of your band in a weird way? And I
Speaker 1: say that because krit and I've had that experience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's actually kind of fun to say, like, oh, what's
Speaker 1: the name of your podcast? I love when people ask
Speaker 1: that because I'm like, the guys, we fucked, and they're
Speaker 1: either the reaction spam. You just say it, you just
Speaker 1: go for it, because a lot of times we're in
Speaker 1: the airport and these old ladies will be like, oh
Speaker 1: look at you girls. Are you in a band of
Speaker 1: your band? Yeah, Like we tried bad times, but I
Speaker 1: can sense when someone well, when we go to the
Speaker 1: airport we have podcast. Here is this for a podcast?
Speaker 1: I'm like, guys, we fucked. I just she says that.
Speaker 1: I don't say it because they just SIT's going to
Speaker 1: open up a conversation that I don't want to have
Speaker 1: with a stranger. Yeah, it's not that it's not that
Speaker 1: I'm uncomfortable. I just literally don't want them talking to me.
Speaker 1: There's definitely gonna be a follow up question. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we've tried both ways. Yeah, it depends. It depends. I
Speaker 1: love when their face goes blank though, like, oh, the
Speaker 1: cute little girls and you gotta do a little you gulp. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my band's called Reformers. What it's like? Yeah, yeah, what
Speaker 1: is that is? Everyone under forty, who's a woman talked
Speaker 1: to like a child? Like so, I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you could think I'm like a
Speaker 1: little bit younger, but you know him at Lee, I
Speaker 1: have to at least be like bare minimum and like,
Speaker 1: why I don't. It's so frustrated because frustrating frustrating on
Speaker 1: the road. I mean I feel like being women on
Speaker 1: the road. It just blows people's minds that, you know,
Speaker 1: they're like, we can do stuff, and like we can
Speaker 1: carry on our own gear and like have a you know,
Speaker 1: pre do you know do sound check? Don't have roadies,
Speaker 1: we carry it. Our sound check is like an experience
Speaker 1: for you guys because the man splaining like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I mean sound guys, bless your heart. We know what
Speaker 1: we're doing to travel. We've opened for fucking less Claypable
Speaker 1: from Primuse, We've toured with him for two years. We've
Speaker 1: played some of the best, most legendary venues in the country.
Speaker 1: But yet we will go to a music venue and
Speaker 1: these men will try to tell us exactly how to
Speaker 1: plug in our instruments and how we are, you know,
Speaker 1: like what kind of mikes and dude, we know holy
Speaker 1: sh it. That's so that's really interesting because I look
Speaker 1: at you guys, I'm like, if I like I want,
Speaker 1: I want to have you guys on Glamor Plus one day,
Speaker 1: But like the sound check should be like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you tell me I don't work them note Like I
Speaker 1: that's so interesting. So many times men have in the
Speaker 1: music industry. Stevens talked to me about that a lot.
Speaker 1: Dudes are just yeah. And it's funny though, because like
Speaker 1: we when we were touring with Les Claypool, it would
Speaker 1: happen every single venue practically would come in and the
Speaker 1: sound guys would be jerks to us and like be
Speaker 1: trying to you know, man splains it or whatever, and
Speaker 1: then um, we'd perform, and then the after we performed,
Speaker 1: we were like their best friend. I mean, they just
Speaker 1: thought we were like the bee's knees. And it was
Speaker 1: so frustrating to be like, you just didn't take us
Speaker 1: seriously to do with you being an opener not just
Speaker 1: a woman or I mean yeah, because I was like,
Speaker 1: believe me, I love blaming men for things. That is
Speaker 1: my favorite activities. But I I just I also wonder
Speaker 1: because I mean, there's just in disrespect like being an
Speaker 1: opener in kind of you know, in comedy and in music.
Speaker 1: You know, I always get upset when I go to
Speaker 1: a concert and people are talking during the opener because
Speaker 1: I'm like, I love seeing the opener because it always
Speaker 1: introduces me to new music. It's like I know the
Speaker 1: guy who or the woman who's playing, you know, as
Speaker 1: the main artist. But like I've been introduced to so
Speaker 1: many amazing people through the opener. I'm like, why are
Speaker 1: you ask wholes talking? This is not like get beer
Speaker 1: and catch up times. Is like get introduced to new
Speaker 1: music times. I have noticed though, though, when we sometimes
Speaker 1: we performed a couple of college gigs or theater gigs there,
Speaker 1: when the crew it's usually always dudes. After the show,
Speaker 1: they'll be like that was really funny, and then they
Speaker 1: comspected us to go on stage and just shoot on
Speaker 1: the Oh yeah, yeah, that's every time. But I mean
Speaker 1: women say that to me just as often. Yeah that
Speaker 1: like I can't believe you're funny because you're a woman.
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't believe you're such a cunt.
Speaker 1: I remember when we were in Detroit, we had a
Speaker 1: woman tweeting at us while we were there. While we
Speaker 1: were performing how much we sucked, and I was like, bitch,
Speaker 1: come to the merch table. Was like, yeah, if you're
Speaker 1: there to someone's birds table, we're here, you know, let's
Speaker 1: talk this out. Yeah, but it just it brought us
Speaker 1: actually quite a lot of joy. Everyone has their own opinion,
Speaker 1: and you know, we're reformed horses, not for everybody's not
Speaker 1: the other way. We get I get it, I totally
Speaker 1: get it some people. It's so interesting though, the way
Speaker 1: people just can't wrap their head around the language about sex,
Speaker 1: especially women talking about it. It's because men can talk
Speaker 1: about again not to make it about men and know
Speaker 1: it is a real thing. And like again, traveling across
Speaker 1: the country, you see it even more exaggerate than in
Speaker 1: New York. Of course, like these men cannot believe that
Speaker 1: we're saying even the word like just dick. Even just
Speaker 1: saying we're dick is like so hard for them to
Speaker 1: wrap their minds around. Yeah, especially because you guys have
Speaker 1: that you have, and I love the juxtaposition of like
Speaker 1: the wholesomeness that you have like in your heart, but
Speaker 1: then like wholesome can also be slutty and it's wonderful,
Speaker 1: and they like that side of it, and no one
Speaker 1: sees and especially men, Like I feel like women at least,
Speaker 1: even if you don't present like that or are like that,
Speaker 1: you know that you can be or women can be
Speaker 1: like that. You have those thoughts and there's intricacies to
Speaker 1: being a woman that aren't just one note. But yeah,
Speaker 1: people just use language as a way to like distract from,
Speaker 1: like the bigger issue. Um, because like in Ricky Gervais's
Speaker 1: new special, he actually talks like he was he's a
Speaker 1: big animal rights activist and he was kind of telling
Speaker 1: this story about how he was tweeting about the meat
Speaker 1: festival they do in China where they eat like ten
Speaker 1: thousand fucking dogs and torture them ahead of time. Like
Speaker 1: it's really terrible. Um, I want to say yangling, but
Speaker 1: that's a beer. It's not sounds like sounds like that.
Speaker 1: Why I energy I had I only thought I've heard
Speaker 1: of it before, but I've only heard it said out loud,
Speaker 1: not spelled. And so he uh, and so he said
Speaker 1: something about like he used the word cunt in something
Speaker 1: like he called the people who were abusing the dogs cunts.
Speaker 1: And the woman's a woman respond and she was like,
Speaker 1: but you need to use that language and it's like
Speaker 1: it's just distracting from the fucking point. The same thing
Speaker 1: happened on like the Osborne's reality TV show. They're like
Speaker 1: why do they have to talk to each other like that.
Speaker 1: It's just like language is not that serious, like it
Speaker 1: can be, but it's not always it can be healthy
Speaker 1: and at all. Like the word horror everybody has. I know,
Speaker 1: I love that great word horror and content, right, but
Speaker 1: it means something different to every single person yea, And
Speaker 1: every single person has hoard themselves out in either a
Speaker 1: relationship oh yeah, or a job or you know, sexually.
Speaker 1: And also it's kind of fun though, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: to get somewhere, and I've certainly done it many times
Speaker 1: throughout my life. But also it's kind of fun to
Speaker 1: be a horror Oh yes, it's very empowering, really fun.
Speaker 1: And that's what no one understands like that notion. I
Speaker 1: feel like when guys, it's like a guy would see
Speaker 1: you for the first time and they just they and
Speaker 1: they're like whoa and such in the state of shock
Speaker 1: of like these lovely young women are cursing at me.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh cool, well, we like fucking so my Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's it's fascinating to me that I
Speaker 1: still encounter men who can't wrap their heads around it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well they're gonna be getting left behind in the dust anyway,
Speaker 1: and I think they kind of know that, so it's
Speaker 1: just like a last ditch effort to hold on. Different
Speaker 1: How is it different for you guys traveling all over
Speaker 1: the country, because we travel all over and it's different.
Speaker 1: The audiences are different in the South obviously than they
Speaker 1: are in Brooklyn. But how do they were not invited
Speaker 1: to the South very often? Really? Yeah, No, we've done
Speaker 1: We've done Texas, Nashville, Nashville, Carolina thing. We're going to
Speaker 1: North Carolina, but that took a long time for us
Speaker 1: to even be able to go there. Besides outside of
Speaker 1: like once the Ted talk that we did. Um, but
Speaker 1: I mean deep South. I feel like the deep South
Speaker 1: in like little towns we have not we haven't done
Speaker 1: New Orleans, but again, like these are like these are
Speaker 1: major cities where people in major cities people are always
Speaker 1: kind of like more progressive. Um, but yet I found though,
Speaker 1: like we did we did a shows that two of
Speaker 1: my favorite shows that we've done on the road where
Speaker 1: a Salt Lake City and in Dallas, oh yeah, And
Speaker 1: those are the two places where I expected people to
Speaker 1: be a little tight tight, not at all. Oh man,
Speaker 1: they want to fucking party and they want to they
Speaker 1: want to go there because there's a lot of reformed
Speaker 1: tours there basically, and I feel like the reformed horror
Speaker 1: of a person like in person form is a very
Speaker 1: fun person. Yeah, like you know, yeah, someone who's lived
Speaker 1: a little. Yeah. Also, Indianapolis was surprising. I think like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who in Indiana there's you know,
Speaker 1: things were not going well, and then in Indianapolis people
Speaker 1: were just itching for a show like ours, and it
Speaker 1: was very cathartic because you know, to say things like this,
Speaker 1: and like New York City or Los Angeles, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's kind of more of a dime a dozen thing.
Speaker 1: Not that we don't have a unique perspective, but you know,
Speaker 1: like seeing a woman say dick, it's not like crazy time, right.
Speaker 1: So you know, we had a great show in Indianapolis too,
Speaker 1: And I think that for us, we definitely get that
Speaker 1: where when we're in the smaller towns, it's like we're
Speaker 1: talking about stuff that everybody thinks about and we're just
Speaker 1: getting up there and saying it. So it's like you said,
Speaker 1: it's very liberating for some people to watch Greenville, South Carolina,
Speaker 1: small little town in the South. We just did there
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, a couple of months ago, and
Speaker 1: a guy slipped us a hundred dollar bill. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: thank you, amazing, And I know you girls are out
Speaker 1: there working very very hard, and this is you know,
Speaker 1: I'd like to contribute to your message. Thank you. Greenville's
Speaker 1: not amazing. I love an unexpected tip. You know what's interesting,
Speaker 1: there's like two two. There's more than two kinds of men,
Speaker 1: but that I've noticed on the road, ones that are
Speaker 1: very in shock that a woman could be talking about
Speaker 1: this with such casualness, and the other ones that are like,
Speaker 1: thank god because I love sex. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure women like to no one talks about it,
Speaker 1: and they're excited that women in our like don't give
Speaker 1: a funk about their own sexuality and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: it and embrace it and not care. And that makes
Speaker 1: them very happy because like they want to funk, because
Speaker 1: that's what I always said. I'm like, don't you want
Speaker 1: us to want to fuck right, don't don't. Yeah, our
Speaker 1: favorite thing is like after a show getting like the
Speaker 1: couple's real horny and then they're like, oh home, I'm like,
Speaker 1: get on. That's like you're welcome. That's really sweet, like
Speaker 1: a couple's therapy. And so how did you guys individually?
Speaker 1: How did you learn about sex? Where your parents cool?
Speaker 1: They opened? Did you have good experiences when you were younger?
Speaker 1: I my my mom was pretty good about like if
Speaker 1: I had a question, she'd answer it, but only if
Speaker 1: I asked really because we never had like the talk,
Speaker 1: but I remember her answer is always. I'd be like, Mom,
Speaker 1: have you ever like what's a blow job? Or whatever?
Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, it's the world sex. Mom, have
Speaker 1: you ever got in a blow job? And she'd say
Speaker 1: once and I didn't like it, And that's how she answered,
Speaker 1: so she didn't want to encourage me. Still like she
Speaker 1: don't like yes, and they're great like she it was
Speaker 1: so funny. Have you ever smoked marijuana? Yes? Once? And
Speaker 1: I didn't like it. Said that's better than no, not
Speaker 1: at all. It was. It was actually quite a good
Speaker 1: it's like a presidential answer. Once and I didn't inhale
Speaker 1: and then when was the first time you had sex?
Speaker 1: I was in college to my first year in college.
Speaker 1: Same to a dude. He was English and he played
Speaker 1: the cello. I like a good cello. Were you guys
Speaker 1: stating or was it just someone you met randomly? You
Speaker 1: met at a concert, so he was my cello player
Speaker 1: for a concert. And then he asked me out and
Speaker 1: we went on some dates and I was like super ready.
Speaker 1: I was just like already. I remember making out with
Speaker 1: him and I thought I was being cool and I
Speaker 1: said something like so am I aren't I And he
Speaker 1: was like what it was like a virgin and he
Speaker 1: was like you're You're not And I was like no,
Speaker 1: I am, and he's like, oh ship. So then he
Speaker 1: like ended up doing this like beautiful thing where he
Speaker 1: his he like an adoptive family, sort of like sort
Speaker 1: of he had like real parents that just didn't have
Speaker 1: any money. So this like rich family kind of came
Speaker 1: in him sick. His like rich fake grandfather had an
Speaker 1: apartment in museum Towers across from the moment, and so
Speaker 1: he like organized it so that he had the apartment
Speaker 1: for the night and had me come over, and he
Speaker 1: was like the most beautiful view of the city, did
Speaker 1: it up against the window or whatever? So sweet a
Speaker 1: bad He sent me flowers the next day. That's the
Speaker 1: best losing virginity storey I've ever heard. Beautiful. It was amazing.
Speaker 1: And then we like saw each other a couple more
Speaker 1: times than he graduated, and then that was that, and
Speaker 1: you just kind of faded away. And he wasn't my boyfriend.
Speaker 1: He just was just a nice guy at the right time.
Speaker 1: Very nice. That's it is. I have a good losing
Speaker 1: virgin a story, but they are are so fucking rare. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was like, oh God, that's great. I'm so happy
Speaker 1: to hear that congratulation. Thank you. Oh well, I was
Speaker 1: you learned about it? Uh? Super Christian, so Jesus taught me.
Speaker 1: I'll only have such with Jesus myself. I really was
Speaker 1: trying to save myself. I mean, I just grew up
Speaker 1: Presbyterian in Nashville and just was very Christian. And I
Speaker 1: was saying in the choir and I went choir rehearsal
Speaker 1: on Wednesdays, and then I had um church on Sundays
Speaker 1: and youth group Sunday night and so like and everybody
Speaker 1: we were all in it together, and like it was
Speaker 1: a great experience. Yeah, I loved it, right, So it
Speaker 1: makes sense that you'd be like, okay, yeah, we're all
Speaker 1: gonna yeah, and then of course I like and and
Speaker 1: so we never really got that talk from my parents. Um,
Speaker 1: in high school. My mom did come home once and
Speaker 1: find me and my I was I was topless, uh
Speaker 1: like it out, But it was during school. I was
Speaker 1: skipping school to make out my mom. I heard my
Speaker 1: mom come home and she was like, hello, and like,
Speaker 1: we booked it. Did she see? No? I think that
Speaker 1: like maybe just the tail end of like the lower back, yeah, maybe,
Speaker 1: but yeah, my boyfriend at the time ran he fell
Speaker 1: and smashed like like framed pictures off the wall. God. Um.
Speaker 1: And then it's really rough because she goes so we
Speaker 1: like came back out like dress she thought you were
Speaker 1: at school. Yeah, she thought we were at school. And
Speaker 1: then she was like, get out, get out. So we
Speaker 1: went to the hard rock cafe, both of you got U. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we we left, um and then my mom. The closest
Speaker 1: thing I ever had to that talk was my mom
Speaker 1: called and said, do we need to go to get
Speaker 1: you on birth control? And I was like, and I
Speaker 1: started and I was like, that was the yeah, that
Speaker 1: was I was like, no, I'm not, We're not having sex.
Speaker 1: I was doing like everything but the sex. Beau's super Christial.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised she even was put birth control on the
Speaker 1: table as an option if you're super Christian. Yeah. Well now,
Speaker 1: I mean we're Presbyterians a little different and they're not.
Speaker 1: It's my yeah, yeah, we it's it's up to the
Speaker 1: woman's choice. That's fun Humanitarians. Yeah. Yeah. So wow, So
Speaker 1: she think it was awful. But but that conversation, I
Speaker 1: remember just feeling so ashamed and and just sad that
Speaker 1: my mom would assume that we were having sex when
Speaker 1: I was just giving him blowjob. Come on, come on, mom,
Speaker 1: I was just suck at his dick. Yeah. So when
Speaker 1: the idea was presented to you about waiting until marriage
Speaker 1: to have sex, you were like, oh, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just do everything, but the thing, because I feel like
Speaker 1: with women's sex is more is a little scarier because
Speaker 1: the the option getting pregnant, but also just like a
Speaker 1: thing going inside of you, and also it's kind of
Speaker 1: very painful and different people have different No good, it's
Speaker 1: not in a lot of good. The first couple of yeah,
Speaker 1: when I lost my Virginity. Um. I was a sophomore
Speaker 1: in college at Appalachian State University in North Carolina. Um
Speaker 1: uh this, I was at a party. I was at
Speaker 1: a party with some friends. It was like a fat
Speaker 1: party or something, and I had been kind of talking
Speaker 1: to this guy and so he came and picked He
Speaker 1: kind of like saved us, me and my friends. It
Speaker 1: was so crowded this party and we were getting very claustrophobic,
Speaker 1: and um, so I called him and he came and
Speaker 1: saved us and and drove us each home and he
Speaker 1: I went back to his place, and um, I was
Speaker 1: I was really fucked up. It's really drunk. And so
Speaker 1: he gave me a bubble bath and then um, you
Speaker 1: guys book, Yeah, he played his guitar for me while
Speaker 1: you were in the bath. Yeah, I brought that into
Speaker 1: the bathroom. The acoustics were just and then I was
Speaker 1: a water let's do this. Let's Yes, he benefits of
Speaker 1: the South, complaining about the South up here, but people don't. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And we were together for and a half years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he taught me everything everything everything I know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of stucks like what like what what trick
Speaker 1: did he teach you that you're like, oh, ship, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have known that unless you were told me. I
Speaker 1: don't know some but stuff I don't know. Do you
Speaker 1: guys do? But stuff I don't do, but stuff like
Speaker 1: nineteen year olds but stuff. My my dad had to
Speaker 1: stick a thermometer in my butt when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: and now anytime someone touches my butt, I think of
Speaker 1: my dad. Oh so I can't do the but the
Speaker 1: butt thermometer is gross, it's terrible, it's not goods. Why
Speaker 1: do people do that rather than just remember him being
Speaker 1: on the phone and it's like he just couldn't get
Speaker 1: it accurate with a baby too, like a kid, it's
Speaker 1: really hard to like make sure they're keeping on gon
Speaker 1: do the year though. Harrison Greenbaum has a joke literally
Speaker 1: about the Bucks thermometer and like why was that the
Speaker 1: sticking in that orifice? And they were like, but we're done,
Speaker 1: no further testing. Yeah, that is so weird. First thought,
Speaker 1: let's go for the ass, let's go for the babies.
Speaker 1: It was a man who came up, but yeah, strange, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's weird. Yeah, I never really thought about like that anyway. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I felt very lucky. I had a great and
Speaker 1: I'm still friends with him. We actually on tour, we
Speaker 1: um went and visited his his double wide and hung
Speaker 1: out with his kid and wife and good friends. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a truck. Yeah it's a trailer, but it's
Speaker 1: double it's like fancy, a big one fancy And did
Speaker 1: his wife know like that? Yeah? Yeah, can get past
Speaker 1: all that ship and he's just friends because it's like
Speaker 1: I don't want him, Yeah you don't want me? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is great. You know. I always do have like
Speaker 1: so much more respect for women who are chill about
Speaker 1: that because I've come across both types and like the
Speaker 1: one like sometimes I'm just like, well, never invited to
Speaker 1: that person's birthday party again. And it's like said, because
Speaker 1: just because we fun doesn't mean I want I don't
Speaker 1: want to be friends and like not funk that person.
Speaker 1: It's possible. Men women can't. I hate when people are
Speaker 1: like men and women can't be friends. Even if there
Speaker 1: was like a little but a sexual tension, you could
Speaker 1: still be friends. You just ignore it. You can't cage
Speaker 1: your significant other up. I mean, you know, so are
Speaker 1: you guys? You you're in a relationship game. Oh you're
Speaker 1: not single? This is rare in the history of performed
Speaker 1: horse usually yeah, usually, yeah. I don't think we've been
Speaker 1: single at the same time either, single at the same time.
Speaker 1: Well I know, because I mean you met Stephen Barry
Speaker 1: after I met you. Yeah, yeah, and then that's that yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: single on the road that to get you get dick
Speaker 1: on the road. They don't. Yeah, yeah, it's a common
Speaker 1: issue their dick dis tribled after they said anyone even
Speaker 1: they don't like talk to the show and like try
Speaker 1: they'll flirt a little. But then if you I mean,
Speaker 1: if I can only imagine if you're like, let's go
Speaker 1: back to your place. Also, I don't know how it
Speaker 1: would really work because we we just we share a
Speaker 1: hotel room and so I can't imagine, like I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: because like to take a bath, go to the lobby,
Speaker 1: you have to go to their place and then just
Speaker 1: like put a pin in it the GPS. So that
Speaker 1: makes me a little for safety, that makes me so
Speaker 1: we got some sleep with stranger as much anymore, all
Speaker 1: the power to I mean I used I did, I
Speaker 1: almost did once and I was like I never really
Speaker 1: especially on the roads terrifiing, Yeah, because like I don't yeah,
Speaker 1: because Steven and my boyfriend and I have talked to
Speaker 1: a couple of times about like opening up the relationships
Speaker 1: just sexually. I'm like, but I would never try and
Speaker 1: get dick on the road because that's just yeah, that
Speaker 1: just doesn't apeel to me. I have never once met
Speaker 1: anybody on the road. I'm like, I want to have
Speaker 1: sex with you never. The only people who really try
Speaker 1: to hose tuse with us are women, and that's very
Speaker 1: nice and complimentary. Older women for her, and then young
Speaker 1: lesbians figuring out their sexuality for me. And that's a
Speaker 1: no on both things because no younger and then also
Speaker 1: no women. Yeah, I feel it feels like women not
Speaker 1: like that. It feels wrong to say it because I'm
Speaker 1: so pro women, but like in my mouth, not for you?
Speaker 1: Is that? Yeah, like guilty about it, but it does
Speaker 1: not have you guys ever heard doub with girls. I've
Speaker 1: made out with my fair share of girls. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's as far as I've gone. No, yes, all the time.
Speaker 1: Girls are better at making out so pretty and they
Speaker 1: smell good. I think also what happens, like is it
Speaker 1: especially if you're like a little wrong you and you
Speaker 1: really are enjoying like the conversation girl, and you're like,
Speaker 1: I like you so much? How do we express the
Speaker 1: next level? Just let out yeah, so that because it
Speaker 1: happens to me sometimes. Yeah, but you're only ever gone
Speaker 1: that far. I've been interested in explore woring that more potentially,
Speaker 1: but I'm very petter sexual like I, so I'm not
Speaker 1: afraid it's maybe try it if it's the right person.
Speaker 1: But I don't see myself like dating a woman, right,
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't, but you know, yolo, right whatever, Yolo.
Speaker 1: I used to make out with my friends in college
Speaker 1: all the time because the same reason. I just love
Speaker 1: you girls so much. I'm like friend in love with you,
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't want to have sex with
Speaker 1: you or date you, but I just want to make
Speaker 1: out with you. Yeah, it's this like it is, but
Speaker 1: it's this unique level of like expressing affection. That's it's weird.
Speaker 1: It's in between. It's it's in between the sexual and
Speaker 1: the I love you so much. I would like to
Speaker 1: have a threesome though before I like lock it up
Speaker 1: with someone because I would like to get married. You
Speaker 1: try to lock it up with somebody, no nobody know
Speaker 1: you're interested in. I mean, there's a couple of people,
Speaker 1: but nothing that they know. How I feel about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a little it's a little glimmer like it's a
Speaker 1: little like you know what, I'll tell you. They're lovely,
Speaker 1: They're not it, I know. And I like to always
Speaker 1: have a couple of pots on the burner, so I
Speaker 1: like to have some lovers. Um. But I really I
Speaker 1: think so I've been single now for four years and
Speaker 1: I've dated a lot, but I haven't had a boyfriend,
Speaker 1: um in four years, and I've really done a lot
Speaker 1: of work of like, um, just loving myself. And now
Speaker 1: I finally feel like I'm in a really really great place.
Speaker 1: I love my life. I live my life for myself.
Speaker 1: I love what I do. Um, how did you get there? Oh? Man?
Speaker 1: It was. I mean it's a day by day sort
Speaker 1: of thing. But um, just a lot of work on
Speaker 1: you know, just what would you say the obstacles were
Speaker 1: getting in the way of you loving yourself? I think
Speaker 1: for me, men like I I put too much energy
Speaker 1: into dating and making them happy rather than myself, and
Speaker 1: then and not knowing exactly what I wanted with my
Speaker 1: life or uh, you know, where I wanted to live,
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do how I want to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I'm so I love being in a relationship and
Speaker 1: then I love loving that person and giving my all
Speaker 1: to them. But then a lot of the times I
Speaker 1: wasn't getting anything. Yeah, it's not reciprocated at the same level.
Speaker 1: I do the same thing, and it's it's very tiring
Speaker 1: because you're like, I don't know how to be in
Speaker 1: a relationship if I'm not in it. But then like
Speaker 1: when you're not getting it back, you become resentful. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I also took a four year break though, and it
Speaker 1: was fucking great. Yeah, oh my god. But now whoever
Speaker 1: I want to like lock it up with, they have
Speaker 1: to make my life even better than That's the key.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you said, because I've been with I mean,
Speaker 1: even the guys I've been dating these past four years,
Speaker 1: like they subtract from my life. They make me feel
Speaker 1: bad about myself. Do you have an example of like
Speaker 1: how a guy would do that? Not a specific name
Speaker 1: or anything, but just like I think being in this
Speaker 1: band and being so outspoken about sex, Um, I think
Speaker 1: men that I've dated in the past have made me
Speaker 1: feel bad about it. I've had men tell me that
Speaker 1: it's you're embarrassing yourself. You should really focus on acting.
Speaker 1: Like they said, you're embarrassing yourself by being in the bands.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, um and just insecurity, get bro Jesus
Speaker 1: Christ just breaking me down. And I mean I love
Speaker 1: these tortured artist type guys. Yeah, yeah, I fall in
Speaker 1: love with the talent. So I'm really trying to not
Speaker 1: date performers. It's hard. It's not really most people who
Speaker 1: are talented are are real, real fucked up. So it's
Speaker 1: difficult and I want to, yeah something, I want to
Speaker 1: be the one in the room. Come on, you know what.
Speaker 1: That would be so nice for once, like to be
Speaker 1: the funked up one in a relationship. I've never been
Speaker 1: the more fucked up one. I haven't. I've had a
Speaker 1: boyfriend who was like, oh, like not fucked up one time,
Speaker 1: but he was like then the most boring person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's true. So it's like, do I want to
Speaker 1: be bored? But like, it's it's so hard. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's being worse, Like being with someone who's tortured
Speaker 1: or just being with someone who's together and being bored
Speaker 1: and they both seem bad. And I've done the ball
Speaker 1: well it's weird when you go on these We were
Speaker 1: trying online dating, which it sucks definitely. Which ones are
Speaker 1: you doing it? I'm on Funny Hinge and Bumble. I've
Speaker 1: been using a lot. I heard hint, what's the given
Speaker 1: with hitting connected to your Facebook because it's a mutual
Speaker 1: friend thing. Yeah, the only thing was weird. Pretty I
Speaker 1: went on one day with somebody that was friends with
Speaker 1: my ex, an ex boyfriend of mine. That was a
Speaker 1: little weird. We spent too much time talking about him
Speaker 1: on the date. It would nice thing, but but we
Speaker 1: It kind of weeds out the crazies because you have
Speaker 1: someone to vouch for them, and even if it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, two degrees of separation, you kind of like
Speaker 1: the normal people. Yeah, you already have something in common,
Speaker 1: yeah somehow. Yeah, it's not always like that. Your friends
Speaker 1: with someone somebody sis, your friends with friends who are
Speaker 1: friends with them, which is nice, so then you don't
Speaker 1: necessarily have like that. You know, you're not dating people. Well,
Speaker 1: it's like the worst date you've ever been on, Like,
Speaker 1: anybody do anything really fucking Like, what the fuck. The
Speaker 1: worst one I went on recently was this dude, Like
Speaker 1: we did it very last night, We're just texting out.
Speaker 1: I was like, what are you doing right now? I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'll meet you for a drink and
Speaker 1: he was I think he was like like closeted gay
Speaker 1: and like dealing with that. And he was very like
Speaker 1: competitive about the band right off the back because he said,
Speaker 1: well I was in a band once too, and I
Speaker 1: was like okay, and so it was also it got
Speaker 1: weird and then so he ended it like pretty or
Speaker 1: like we had like a drink and then he was
Speaker 1: like I gotta go, and it was like okay. So
Speaker 1: then I was finally he's like then that as we
Speaker 1: were leaving, he was like, so, do you want my
Speaker 1: phone number? And I was like no, I want it.
Speaker 1: It was just god, that was the worst one. And
Speaker 1: that's not so bad. That's bad. It was short. It
Speaker 1: was like whatever, yeah, are you looking at me? Like
Speaker 1: we're like end next? I feel like, um, well, So
Speaker 1: I went on a date years and years ago. I
Speaker 1: went on a date with my u CEB teacher. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to name a name after we turn this
Speaker 1: mic off with we have we all have a lot.
Speaker 1: Everybody know you, sure people know who he is. But
Speaker 1: it was it was the absolute worst date I've ever been.
Speaker 1: Definitely gonna need that name after the biggest crush on
Speaker 1: it that's you see be gush. I mean it's like
Speaker 1: every class I paid five hundred dollars for I ended
Speaker 1: with the crush on the professor or whatever. There is
Speaker 1: something fucking those people when they're in the rooms, but
Speaker 1: then outside you're like, these people are all fucking god.
Speaker 1: It was the I mean for weeks you can see
Speaker 1: it's any teacher in his sexual light. Yeah, and he's like,
Speaker 1: they're better at and see you. And he was so talented.
Speaker 1: He's still it's very he's doing very well for himself. Congratulations, Um,
Speaker 1: going well for you? Yea, so great now that he's
Speaker 1: doing well, I have two guesses, okay, go ahead, Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, for eight weeks I developed this like super crush.
Speaker 1: And then he sent me an email after our like
Speaker 1: graduation show like talented you are me me? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: Um so yeah. So then I asked him out. So
Speaker 1: we went out, and I was so nervous asked him out. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean he like he'd let you know that he
Speaker 1: would say yes yea, so we um we met and
Speaker 1: he I was late, of course, to the date, but
Speaker 1: he the power, I have the power. I'm late. But
Speaker 1: then I ruined it because I was so nervous and
Speaker 1: he had ordered me a martini, so when I sat down,
Speaker 1: I was shaking. So when I picked it up, my
Speaker 1: bill basically, you know that was before I was a
Speaker 1: while work. Yes, I've done. It's for a while now.
Speaker 1: I mean that was maybe five years ago. Okay, so
Speaker 1: that's long enough that i'm I would be like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But then the I mean so I spilt the martini
Speaker 1: all over the table. So then I showed my cards
Speaker 1: of like how nervous I was. Yeah. So then he
Speaker 1: was just a dick throughout the whole night. And then
Speaker 1: the last thing we went to UM some other bar
Speaker 1: and there was like a like a classical guitarist in
Speaker 1: the corner playing um like Nirvana or something, and I
Speaker 1: was like, this is so stupid. He was like, this
Speaker 1: is my favorite song. I can't believe this, checkmate, And
Speaker 1: I was like, I mean this, I could not have
Speaker 1: seen this coming. I could have probably looking looking back,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It sucks when you when
Speaker 1: you're kind of in all of somebody, even if it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if they deserve it or not, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter because you are like that's you're in your like
Speaker 1: story eyed a little and so it was so I
Speaker 1: remember I liked him, So this is so silly, this
Speaker 1: is this is how long ago was I guess I
Speaker 1: still had my space and he had space and he um,
Speaker 1: he can't. Like on the date, he was like, you
Speaker 1: seem like you're really into yourself. He was, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: something that only someone who improvised us but doesn't yet
Speaker 1: have a sonic commercial or a series of sonic funny
Speaker 1: I have, obviously I have. This is coming from a
Speaker 1: personal place, a very pent up amount of anger, anger
Speaker 1: against everyone that you see me. Yeah, yeah, well thanks
Speaker 1: to you, SB. That's how we kind of started the
Speaker 1: band in some sense, because I was taking classes there
Speaker 1: and just feeling like I'm never going to break into
Speaker 1: this place, like this just isn't for me, and so
Speaker 1: I started. I bought because like looking assholes dressing. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So then I bought of ukulele randomly. I think that
Speaker 1: Will kind of might have made, might have influenced that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, universe, that basic that that's okay. Zoe Dashells
Speaker 1: goddamn adorable and so are you. And also it's like
Speaker 1: light because I mean, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: a heavy instant the accordion, I mean as an accordion.
Speaker 1: That's really I don't realize accordions were that heavy. Like
Speaker 1: you guys like carry your own gear like you can
Speaker 1: carry it like by yourselves, Oh my god, like we do.
Speaker 1: Although if anybody wants to be a road definitely taking
Speaker 1: application yea, because we're tired. That's a big test though
Speaker 1: on the road, um, because we have all this gear
Speaker 1: and we can carry it ourselves. But I'll tell you
Speaker 1: I cannot. Like so many times we'll have men with us.
Speaker 1: I judge men very hard, yeah, because yeah, they don't offer.
Speaker 1: And they there's a lot of men that do not offer.
Speaker 1: And maybe it's because they're like they would get offended
Speaker 1: if I offered to help me. They go to this
Speaker 1: extra they often than not, they're so up their own
Speaker 1: asses they don't even think. It's not like they consideration. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's and I you know women too. I mean,
Speaker 1: if I'm carrying like two things, it's nice when anybody, yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: do you need help? Share? It's one of those things.
Speaker 1: But especially carrying a bunch of you not anything we have,
Speaker 1: just like a little purse or you're carrying nothing, just offer.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. My friend and my friend since middle school.
Speaker 1: His name was Ben and he he was this little
Speaker 1: Asian guy and he played this big like trombone and
Speaker 1: it was so heavy and like he just would struggle
Speaker 1: with it every day. And one of my mom's favorite
Speaker 1: stories is she's like, just every day at the bus stop,
Speaker 1: you would just be like and then just like bring
Speaker 1: it on because like I just couldn't it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: for the man or I just couldn't watch him struggle.
Speaker 1: I was like, I know I have the amount of
Speaker 1: energy that I can lift this up no problem. And
Speaker 1: you know, like a lot of times when you're younger,
Speaker 1: girls are actually bigger than guys. Because I was like
Speaker 1: I was like full size the way I am now
Speaker 1: that I was just like, all right, we're getting on
Speaker 1: the bus. He was my friend, but I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't walk, and he appreciated it. It's something for
Speaker 1: a dude. It's okay, it's not waiting love. Yeah, it's fun.
Speaker 1: It's nice. Have you ever had anybody be creepy to
Speaker 1: you on the road? Oh? Yes, creepy like like yeah,
Speaker 1: we've definitely when we were in um. I remember the
Speaker 1: first time I was like scared on the road was
Speaker 1: that Pappian Harriet's and yeah, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: I was like, we need security. Like people were like
Speaker 1: getting handsy and there's always that fucking moment. It was
Speaker 1: with a guy. Was like a bunch of guys. I
Speaker 1: mean it was just like these older dudes. Everyone was wasted,
Speaker 1: the crowded around here or something. Yeah, well we were
Speaker 1: at the merge table out there, like trying to hawk
Speaker 1: our and you're trying and that balance between learning how
Speaker 1: to like be like nice and plight because that's how
Speaker 1: you've been saying, like, hey, don't touch my asking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was one of the big ones that they grow
Speaker 1: to like just sort of like touching your praises. I
Speaker 1: know how they get drunk. You know, we all get
Speaker 1: drunk and lean and hold and whatever. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: don't touch anybody's butts when I'm yeah, I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to touch people. I think that's my new rule is
Speaker 1: I just don't touch me unless like proposing for a
Speaker 1: picture or something. That's fine. Yeah, it happens a lot.
Speaker 1: Men do it and women do it too. Definitely do
Speaker 1: it when' and it's not like I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's just not okay to touch my button no matter
Speaker 1: who you are, Like unless the only person who could
Speaker 1: touch my butt without asking is my boyfriend, Like that's fine,
Speaker 1: like a friend that I like, if a friend brows
Speaker 1: my ass, I don't care, but or even my vagina
Speaker 1: for that matter. Was the theater school thing. I think
Speaker 1: it's interesting because people feel like they know you, and
Speaker 1: especially after seeing the live show and then we're selling
Speaker 1: merchant trying to be nice and getting them to sign
Speaker 1: on our mailing less not that sort of stuff, and
Speaker 1: so they just feel like they're part of this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've've been talking about sex stuff on stage, so for sure,
Speaker 1: So they feel like connection, especially if they've lived our
Speaker 1: lives feeling trapped when they think about their own sexuality
Speaker 1: and they feel like they've been a ceiling that they
Speaker 1: placed on it because of the world around them. So
Speaker 1: that's liberating a misconception that like people who talk openly
Speaker 1: about sex always want to be sexual and with anyone,
Speaker 1: And it's like that like if you are a sexual
Speaker 1: person that you just still don't have like standards for
Speaker 1: yourself and that's completely inaccurate, very very un We did
Speaker 1: a show last year and this man made me feel
Speaker 1: very very uncomfortable. He had booked us and we were
Speaker 1: excited to do the show. Um. And after the show,
Speaker 1: we were like, they had the roller skinning rank and
Speaker 1: we're all roller skanning. Yeah, and it was really fun.
Speaker 1: And then things got weird. He started talking about how
Speaker 1: he likes to have three sums and his wife is
Speaker 1: totally fine with it and for everything. And I didn't,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I just froze, like I just was like,
Speaker 1: this is so uncomfortable. I don't know this person. He
Speaker 1: we you know, we're here. We don't know anybody else
Speaker 1: except this person who booked us and who's like paid
Speaker 1: us he had to. And then he feels like he's
Speaker 1: doing you a favor, and then feel yeah, and he's
Speaker 1: really and and you know, he could still be could
Speaker 1: still be a very sweet guy, such a sweet person.
Speaker 1: But it made me feel so uncomfortable because I felt
Speaker 1: like he was trying to get me to go have
Speaker 1: a threesome with him and his wife. For sure. I
Speaker 1: just I felt so but I froze. And then he
Speaker 1: sent me a message on Facebook. Um, like two days later,
Speaker 1: I'm like, sorry if I made your uncomfortable. And then
Speaker 1: I was like, this is my time to like actually
Speaker 1: tell him you don't don't do that, Like you're lucky
Speaker 1: that it was me. Yeah, man, I didn't, like, you know,
Speaker 1: report you, you know, call the cops or make you whatever. Um,
Speaker 1: But like, just be careful. You have to be so
Speaker 1: careful with what you said, because I know you're a
Speaker 1: good person, but to do a job, Yeah, this is
Speaker 1: my work and this is you know, and we were
Speaker 1: doing you a favor because it was his friend's birthday.
Speaker 1: He's a great he's a very nice person, but just
Speaker 1: like but that's where the respect comes in. And that's
Speaker 1: why I think it's really cool that people, mainly women,
Speaker 1: are talking about sex in a way that the women
Speaker 1: have never talked about it publicly before or on a
Speaker 1: larger platform, which is exciting. So I feel like with
Speaker 1: with a lot of guys, there's this it's from one
Speaker 1: extreme to another, going from assuming that women don't like it,
Speaker 1: I guess and they just don't, then I have to
Speaker 1: like feel like I hate myself when I approached them,
Speaker 1: and then the extreme of that is like, oh they
Speaker 1: really want to funk, so I can just talk to
Speaker 1: them about it, even when I hire them for a gig,
Speaker 1: And it's like, and what you're saying with the you
Speaker 1: might not have had those intentions to make me feel
Speaker 1: really uncomfortable, but that's what a fucking did. So there's
Speaker 1: it's just got to be a middle, middle ground guard
Speaker 1: that's down for me, at least when I'm talking to
Speaker 1: a married man, because I just really don't expect that
Speaker 1: to be coming, like anytime I'm having a conversation with
Speaker 1: a single man. I'm like that this could come at
Speaker 1: any moment, right, Yeah, I was watching his wife like
Speaker 1: skate around the rank and then they don't I don't know,
Speaker 1: and you're not sure, especially when the woman is not president.
Speaker 1: You don't know if this is a really something that
Speaker 1: is true about their marriage or something. He's just saying
Speaker 1: he's not a kind of trufntil later and then it's
Speaker 1: just then it's just very confusing, and it puts a
Speaker 1: lot of responsibility on you that should not be there.
Speaker 1: I feel like when guys get horny like that, it's
Speaker 1: just they just lose the logic completely. Just they no
Speaker 1: no like no no social cues, all the social cues
Speaker 1: go out the window. Just how how to politely act
Speaker 1: because because it would make sense if he was like
Speaker 1: I really wanted, they really wanted him and his wife
Speaker 1: want to have a three I'm like, how do you
Speaker 1: not get that? You don't ask the person you fucking
Speaker 1: hire for a gig here's a stranger. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: but it's good that you said that to him because
Speaker 1: he it seemed like maybe if he is a good guy,
Speaker 1: that he took that to heart. Yeah, I think he'd
Speaker 1: really take it with him. Yeah, I think so. And
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll do it again. Yeah. Good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm so used to if ever anybody talks to me
Speaker 1: about that makes me feel weird, like yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: this is weird and I don't like it, and I
Speaker 1: wish you didn't say that, and now it's weird and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be weird with you. So next time, don't
Speaker 1: do that. You know, like so many people I know
Speaker 1: have almost two threesomes, and I'm like, what about my
Speaker 1: er says that I want to have a threesome? I
Speaker 1: could not. We're stand off firs, I barely make contact.
Speaker 1: What about that says that I want not only one
Speaker 1: more person, but two more people in my personal space.
Speaker 1: I really can't be any clearer. Um anyway, No, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like people. It's so hard for me to
Speaker 1: even find one person. And also, like on top of
Speaker 1: that him a narcissist. So like, if I'm what threeesomes
Speaker 1: a nightmare because every moment's not You're not gonna be
Speaker 1: paying attention to me. Why would I want to set
Speaker 1: myself up for that. I'm getting angry just thinking about it.
Speaker 1: If you had a three way Katie, I have not,
Speaker 1: but I'm open but not find my boss over the right,
Speaker 1: like if anything, like I would like make out with
Speaker 1: like like two girls or something, because it's like I'm
Speaker 1: not attracted to girls, but there was like that. I
Speaker 1: think that could be like a fun sleepover thing, right,
Speaker 1: Like my friend and Diana, my friend, my old friend
Speaker 1: Dianna and I did something like that, Like we took
Speaker 1: like a guy home once, but like we didn't all
Speaker 1: have sex. We just like all made out. That was okay, Um,
Speaker 1: but Dad, then I found out he was cheating on
Speaker 1: his girlfriend. We had to kick him out of the apartment.
Speaker 1: You got go, what's the most sexually adventurous thing you
Speaker 1: would say either of you have ever done, oh, making
Speaker 1: love on a trail uh Cape May, New Jersey when
Speaker 1: it was like a trail leading to the beach. It's
Speaker 1: probably not so adventurous as just like so amateur and stupid.
Speaker 1: It's sweet, but I like like Cape May, New Jersey,
Speaker 1: were like hike in and it's like the breeze, we
Speaker 1: see some swans or some bullshit, like just like it
Speaker 1: just came up. Yeah, there's nothing like seeing semen in
Speaker 1: the sand, you know, but like we could hear people
Speaker 1: like hiking around, but I just was so turned on
Speaker 1: by like we are going to get caught, like this
Speaker 1: is this is we're going and we didn't. But the
Speaker 1: birds were definitely watching animals, love watching humans. Also semen
Speaker 1: in the sand. Yeah, it's a song. Yeah, I was in.
Speaker 1: Yeah you guys that you say how I like blowing
Speaker 1: a guy in a bathroom, blowing a guy in a
Speaker 1: cap like you drinking guys off the bars talk really
Speaker 1: really tried it once and I didn't like it. I
Speaker 1: chok you off here, I'll drink you off there, k
Speaker 1: you off, you're you're fun gal. Yeah, yeah, let's go dude. Still,
Speaker 1: let's try to get caught. Yeah, when you're with when
Speaker 1: you're with somebody who like, well, you can egg each
Speaker 1: other on, like let's do this weird thing, like let's
Speaker 1: sucking the elevator Mason's and they're like okay, like oh
Speaker 1: I love that stuff. I need my husband to be
Speaker 1: able to do that. Yeah. Fun, Yeah, I gotta keep
Speaker 1: it interesting. Um and you got you mentioned that sometimes
Speaker 1: you can't play certain places because of the name of
Speaker 1: your band. Yeah. I was telling Karan about our story
Speaker 1: about Good Olds Dine the Reform Tools. I know we're
Speaker 1: Disney present. Yeah. No. We were touring with Les Claypool
Speaker 1: at the time, and the tour went down to Florida,
Speaker 1: and so we were supposed to play Orlando House of
Speaker 1: Blues and we were so excited. That's the Disney venue. Well,
Speaker 1: they owned the they owned the land that the House
Speaker 1: of Blues was built on, so they then had some
Speaker 1: sort of claim over it. Was like, yeah, because the
Speaker 1: week before, like Slippery win Wet just played or all
Speaker 1: male band, all the lyrics and that everyone who has
Speaker 1: played there, I'm sure are more terrible than things that
Speaker 1: you guys. But then they were like will you change champaigns?
Speaker 1: Direct about it? How dare you just for the night
Speaker 1: And we were like sure, fine, well the Reformed Doors,
Speaker 1: how about that? And so for a minute I do
Speaker 1: cover band and then and then they wouldn't. They wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Well they were okay for a minute, and then they
Speaker 1: watched some of our videos and they were like, no,
Speaker 1: we saw like the birth control video or something, and
Speaker 1: we can't have that's the one that did it. Isn't
Speaker 1: how the Blues anyways? Yes, and so it was Disney,
Speaker 1: but they're good Disney. Yeah, it's so that's crazy. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, Disney does have a magic that they've fabricated.
Speaker 1: And then a lot of like, um, you know our
Speaker 1: past we're not represented anymore, but managers and agents in
Speaker 1: the past have told us like we're never going to
Speaker 1: be able to get you on TV with your band name.
Speaker 1: But then like our president is saying even worse thing,
Speaker 1: yeah than horse and that they say that on you
Speaker 1: can just bleep it out, like you know, everything that
Speaker 1: we do has fucking a title. But we just we
Speaker 1: we were horror. I don't think you have to put
Speaker 1: people want to but people could, yeah they do. Yes,
Speaker 1: book will not let us do ads. Yeah, that's a
Speaker 1: percent and we were blood on TV. So yeah, we
Speaker 1: were told whenever we do a sponsored post, whenever we
Speaker 1: do a sponsor post on Facebook, I have to I don't,
Speaker 1: I say, g w F, I don't even see the
Speaker 1: name of the podcast, otherwise it won't it won't accept it.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, but you accept all the Russian post
Speaker 1: se Mark Zuckerberg suck my nuts. Is the same thing
Speaker 1: about language and everyone being so scared of language, and
Speaker 1: then when there was real terror going on, the just
Speaker 1: so stupid. And also there is something about women saying
Speaker 1: it and I hate I wish that wasn't true, but
Speaker 1: I feel like that's very true. Also, if you are
Speaker 1: not careful about like editing or like you're trying to
Speaker 1: censor our name, it sometimes looks like we're called the
Speaker 1: Reformed Whites, which is yeah, that's so funny. Said that
Speaker 1: because I've I've typed outform tours in my phone and
Speaker 1: it has changed it to Reformed Whites. Aside, what is
Speaker 1: going on me, it's not. I don't know what that means,
Speaker 1: but I don't want it feels bad. It feels if
Speaker 1: you feels like someone kicking it out of Disneyland. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So You guys are amazing. Where can we Where can
Speaker 1: we see you perform? Where do we where do we go? Well?
Speaker 1: Does this come out on Friday? Yes? This this next Friday.
Speaker 1: Sorry okay, well yeah, well we're then we will have
Speaker 1: returned from tour. We're going on tour this week. But
Speaker 1: that's fine. But you can go to reform hourse dot
Speaker 1: com and check out all of our tour dates and
Speaker 1: follow us on Twitter at Reformed Tours, Instagram, Instagram. Where
Speaker 1: can we buy your music online? It's all on there.
Speaker 1: Can I use it for this episode? Absolutely? Yeah? Spotify.
Speaker 1: We're on Spotify. Um as we so fucking talented. You're
Speaker 1: both really beautiful singers, incredible music songwriters. I mean really
Speaker 1: all the all the elements that go into making a
Speaker 1: really great band. You guys have it. Seriously, you guys
Speaker 1: are amazing. Well, we've watched you guys grow through these
Speaker 1: years since we did. We've known you eight year. We're
Speaker 1: all doing well. I feel like we really came up
Speaker 1: together because like anyone who was on like those early
Speaker 1: sorry about last night kind of put together shows where
Speaker 1: Christine and I were just like making pictures of jungle
Speaker 1: juice and like slim Fast on the stage. But I
Speaker 1: feel like we need to thank you for like all
Speaker 1: of women kind you guys do all right back at you,
Speaker 1: you guys too very nice and more girls spreading the
Speaker 1: message of the whole the badass God perfect. That was
Speaker 1: a perfect end, Ding guys, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: tuning into you. Guys, we fucked the anti slot Chiming podcast.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next Friday. And Leary Young we
Speaker 1: learned two things. Girls have beans and bows ding a
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Speaker 1: you could take yours off and lend it to me,
Speaker 1: because if I had a Willie Fair just to day,
Speaker 1: he standing up, spray all over the place, put it
Speaker 1: in it's off, can draw, It's like it hard across
Speaker 1: your face. Don't get me wrong, I'm proud to be
Speaker 1: a woman. Just sometimes I wonder what it's like the hair.
Speaker 1: Don just hurt to ride a bike, doesn't hurt to
Speaker 1: wear a thong. Had to play it like a blue ball,
Speaker 1: singing a ball. If I had a Willie Fair just
Speaker 1: to day, I'm with it out Riding on the subway
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Speaker 1: as Katie, as you know. But sometimes this song makes
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Speaker 1: makes it think of something lots of other ladies have
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