Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast as a millionaire producer. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Janzas, and I am joined by
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up boys? Happy Monday? Wow? I mean
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, normally becoming on Monday. And
Speaker 1: it's how we spent a lot of time together as
Speaker 1: a group this weekend. Maybe too much, did a little
Speaker 1: seaside um libations, why not sure the whole group. West
Speaker 1: had his first Hanano Burger since overcoming cancer. Took down
Speaker 1: the whole damn thing. Yeah you did. You put it
Speaker 1: all down, put it all away. There was some concern
Speaker 1: halfway through that, like half of it was just sitting
Speaker 1: there when I got there and You're like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just had to eat. Then you buried it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: eat really slow. I need like a propeller on the
Speaker 1: end of my fork. That's funny. And then uh yeah, Greg,
Speaker 1: you were there too, and the Paramore. It was a nice,
Speaker 1: nice night out or a day out. And then yesterday
Speaker 1: I was left with the two boys all weekend while
Speaker 1: my wife went on a girl's trap sheharned it. She
Speaker 1: deserved it. No heat from me on that um. Looked
Speaker 1: like there's some libations on her trip as well, Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. And I went over to the Sessler compound
Speaker 1: yesterday morning, brought the two little rugrats and then all
Speaker 1: the boys had a lot of fun. Almost suffered like
Speaker 1: seven head injuries. It was you're, you're so right, like
Speaker 1: little kids running around nearly bashing into sharp brick corners.
Speaker 1: But other than that, I when when, especially Dan's older
Speaker 1: boy Jack, I think, Harrison, you're he's post baby, but
Speaker 1: he's not quite able to socialize with the rest on
Speaker 1: the same level. But they were very sad to see
Speaker 1: Jack leave the front door. Yeah, the front Jack had
Speaker 1: a great time. Yeah, there was one moment in particular.
Speaker 1: They all had brushes with death, which is if you
Speaker 1: don't have young kids, you know this, especially boys, because
Speaker 1: boys are so stupid, like I myself as well when
Speaker 1: I was younger, but like they just throw themselves. At
Speaker 1: one point, Luke is running towards and you have this
Speaker 1: cool little open fire pit and there's brick, pretty sharp
Speaker 1: edges and everything. I see him right in front of me,
Speaker 1: loses footing, stumble and then he's going face first towards
Speaker 1: this edge of brick, and I'm like looking at it
Speaker 1: like in slow motions, like, oh my god, is this
Speaker 1: the end? It's just this is it just? It just
Speaker 1: crashes into his chest and pushes into his stern him
Speaker 1: and he's not even a worse for the wear. So
Speaker 1: but that's that's life. As a parent of young UN's flips,
Speaker 1: I'd say a great move to let the wife go
Speaker 1: on a girl trip because it buys incredible cachet for
Speaker 1: your future adventures. It's you, you pay in it should
Speaker 1: and then you get a payout that exceeds it. Because
Speaker 1: I don't know how your your marriage is like an
Speaker 1: ATM machine on some level, Like, um, I set things
Speaker 1: up in my marriage, and this is the way to
Speaker 1: do it. If anybody who's not married yet or is
Speaker 1: maybe not good at it, did you kind of set
Speaker 1: the bar low and make your wife think there's very
Speaker 1: little you can pull off, like a weekend, like she
Speaker 1: was worried about this weekend forever, And I was never
Speaker 1: really worried about. I was just I was, you know,
Speaker 1: a little apprehensive about because I knew it was gonna
Speaker 1: be a lot of work, but never like, am I
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do this? But she thought that
Speaker 1: it was gonna be really difficult for me. So now
Speaker 1: when I get through it, all of a sudden, Father
Speaker 1: to the Year, No drama, no text, swear swear is
Speaker 1: that you just you got it done. M excellent manipulation dance.
Speaker 1: He one day you'll learn what Welcome to the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast Monday edition. A lot to get to. Surprisingly,
Speaker 1: we have a lot of news uh to go through,
Speaker 1: including a one of the great defenders of the last
Speaker 1: decade or so, hanging up the cleats as they say,
Speaker 1: uh and UH, an update on the does Bryant situation?
Speaker 1: Does Bryant situation? Uh? And then Yes, our quarterback Draft
Speaker 1: prospect series continues. We're gonna talk about talk about Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield with our friend Chase goodbread carbs. So I reached
Speaker 1: out to Chase and said, Hey, any of these prospects,
Speaker 1: which one would you you know, let's get your juice floam,
Speaker 1: what lights up your Christmas tree? We'll get you hot
Speaker 1: in the pants Greg Rosenthal style. He said, Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield. Chase is not the only one that's
Speaker 1: getting hot in the pants about Baker Mayfield. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: are you as a as with the Jets team picking?
Speaker 1: It's it's a relative wild fire down there right now.
Speaker 1: Mark the inspiration behind this whole quarterback series. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is well, let's break it down. Two of the
Speaker 1: people in this room are directly influenced by this. But
Speaker 1: like I said on Friday, the entire NFL is influenced
Speaker 1: by this group of four and maybe more quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: are coming out of this draft. All right, so yes,
Speaker 1: Chase coming up later, and uh let's get to the
Speaker 1: news though. And to do that, we say hello to
Speaker 1: Lindsay Fulton behind the glass. What's up? Hello? Hi? How
Speaker 1: are you? I'm great? How are you really a millionaire? No,
Speaker 1: that's a lie, but you green lit that opening anyway
Speaker 1: for money? I like to keep my finances. Well, you
Speaker 1: said you were likely a millionaire when you found out
Speaker 1: that you had some bitcoin. It turned out to be
Speaker 1: not quite six figures, but significant stuff. The truth because
Speaker 1: I don't really want like every like high school and
Speaker 1: you know, kindergarten classmate call me and they're looking for money.
Speaker 1: So have you unlocked it? At this point? Is it?
Speaker 1: Do you have it as cash? Yeah, I hope that
Speaker 1: for a while. I just can't be that much because
Speaker 1: you're still kind of showing up and punching the clock
Speaker 1: here day after day, So it can't be too much
Speaker 1: just to retire on all right, Well, there's there's some honesty.
Speaker 1: Let's do some news if you were sure. Works to
Speaker 1: me anyway? The greatest Super Bowl play of all time
Speaker 1: James Harrison's one hundred yard uh interception and run back
Speaker 1: against the Cardinals and Super Bowl forty three. Uh, the
Speaker 1: Steelers great is retiring this time most likely? Uh for real.
Speaker 1: This isn't the first time Harrison said he was stepping away,
Speaker 1: but now he's thirty nine years old. Uh. It appeared
Speaker 1: that he was near the end last season when he
Speaker 1: caught on with the Patriots after being cut by the Steelers.
Speaker 1: He had this to say on Instagram. I've missed way
Speaker 1: too much for way too long. I'm done. Many thanks
Speaker 1: to my family, coaches, the fans, and everyone who played
Speaker 1: a role in my football life. West. I don't remember
Speaker 1: when the first retirement was, maybe a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: We probably did some type of retrospective then. But Harrison
Speaker 1: is a fun guy to talk about, So let's talk
Speaker 1: about him again. Yeah, I feel like we've done this
Speaker 1: conversation four times in the last four years. It seems
Speaker 1: like he retires or he's left unsigned into October every year.
Speaker 1: I know that Greg leaves. He's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's gonna come down to, like
Speaker 1: Terrell Sugs versus James Harrison for a Hall of Fame bid,
Speaker 1: and I would lean towards Suggs on that one. I
Speaker 1: think the guy at best will have to wait a
Speaker 1: long time, like he's gonna be a guy that six, seven, eight,
Speaker 1: nine years needs to get some sort of momentum. I
Speaker 1: like the guys who have the incredible peaks. And I
Speaker 1: think from twenty two thousand seven through two thousand and
Speaker 1: eleven that the five season period, I would put him
Speaker 1: in the top five defensive players in the entire year.
Speaker 1: Had a defensive player in the entire league, had a
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year win during that time, was
Speaker 1: had some votes, I believe in the top five one
Speaker 1: or two other times, including one year I remember Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick said it at the Super Bowl that James Harrison
Speaker 1: was the best defensive player in the league that year.
Speaker 1: That was a year where he came in fourth in
Speaker 1: the voting, and I had some people coming at me
Speaker 1: on Twitter like, well him or Robert Mathis, And to me,
Speaker 1: Harrison wasn't just about stats. It was about he was
Speaker 1: an incredible run stuff, an incredible guy setting the edge,
Speaker 1: an incredible disruptor. So you can't compare him to a
Speaker 1: guy like Robert Mathis, who's just kind of an edge rusher. Harrison,
Speaker 1: to me, was more just dominant week after week for
Speaker 1: a nice stretch and then made a lot of plays
Speaker 1: over the last six or seven years to where he
Speaker 1: wasn't quite at that the only undrafted player in league
Speaker 1: history that we to win Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 1: And I like Hall of Fame stuff. I think he's
Speaker 1: an interesting case. I would want to see it based
Speaker 1: on just my fandom. But I would say that I
Speaker 1: judge players a lot of times, like as a Browns fan,
Speaker 1: who drove me the most nuts, who made me the
Speaker 1: most annoyed, and who had me the most worried for
Speaker 1: my own quarterback? And there are two players that drove
Speaker 1: me the that that annoyed me the most. One was
Speaker 1: Hines Ward. I couldn't wait for him to get out
Speaker 1: of the league. That guy every week. He's a lot
Speaker 1: of people, I mean, but I beck because he's a
Speaker 1: great player. And James Harrison. Dan remember when we first
Speaker 1: started here and we sent Colt McCoy into the next
Speaker 1: month on Thursday Night Football once, I mean, James Harrison
Speaker 1: reeked utter havoc on players. And I think if you
Speaker 1: were to put together like an two hour long special
Speaker 1: on his most ball busting, gigantic hitstory just detonated human beings.
Speaker 1: I love James Harrison the idea of how what he
Speaker 1: was a football and as a character. He was on
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks a couple of times, and he was always
Speaker 1: so interesting. Was it just a Cincinnati year? Was there
Speaker 1: a second year? Maybe just once? But I mean he
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun in that season, and you
Speaker 1: got a little peek behind the curtain what he was
Speaker 1: all about. And then his famous instagram that showed him.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite h Harrison stories is after the
Speaker 1: Steelers beat the Chiefs, I believe it was uh last
Speaker 1: year in the playoffs, Harrison was flew home on the
Speaker 1: team plane. He was thirty eight at this time or whatever,
Speaker 1: and then went back got back to the Steelers facility
Speaker 1: at like four am and at like five am, he's
Speaker 1: sending Instagram videos of his workout. I mean, and you
Speaker 1: would say, some guys, oh it's phony, he's just and
Speaker 1: maybe he was doing a little bit for show. But
Speaker 1: that's who Marrison was. He was an insane competitor. He
Speaker 1: was a gym rat and put three hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: a year into his body, and I was for his body.
Speaker 1: And then you and then that play that we heard
Speaker 1: right off the top. When you talk about hall of fame,
Speaker 1: when you have that type of marquee, signature play for
Speaker 1: one of the signature NFL franchises, I think he's a
Speaker 1: hall of fame. It's the the year he won in
Speaker 1: o A. He beat DeMarcus Ware and Ed Reid, who
Speaker 1: are second and third in the voting in two of
Speaker 1: their best seasons of their career. So that kind of
Speaker 1: shows when when he was at that level, that was
Speaker 1: where James Harrison. It's crazy to think that back in
Speaker 1: two thousand three, he was on the Ravens for a
Speaker 1: brief amount of time. They sent him over to NFL Europe,
Speaker 1: he got released by Baltimore, wound up with Pittsburgh. I mean,
Speaker 1: how different could the Ravens have been had they had
Speaker 1: James Harrison this entire time. Moving on, the Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: are out of the c J. Anderson business. The team
Speaker 1: is releasing the running back. Mike Garifolo reported Monday, uh
Speaker 1: and Anderson made it just two seasons into the four year,
Speaker 1: eighteen million dollar deally signed with Denver in two thousand sixteen.
Speaker 1: The Broncos save four and a half million on the
Speaker 1: cap with the move in Denver. Before cutting loose the
Speaker 1: running back tried to trade him. It just didn't work out.
Speaker 1: This is this Greg is funny, It works out. This
Speaker 1: is how the position is as a volatile position for
Speaker 1: all teams, but with the Broncos especially. You're a yard
Speaker 1: running back one year and you're on the street the next.
Speaker 1: You could go through a whole list of guys through
Speaker 1: the years, and Anderson's the latest one. Yeah, it makes
Speaker 1: sense in a vacuum. He hasn't been able to stay healthy.
Speaker 1: I think when he's at his best, he's he's a
Speaker 1: good he's a difference maker. He can be a good starter,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't showed it enough. And it just points
Speaker 1: out how quickly that that Broncos championship team has been dismantled.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think it's it was Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: handing off to Ronnie Hillman and c J Anderson a
Speaker 1: keep to leave and someone you know, Danny Trevathan and
Speaker 1: t J. Ward and like, yeah, they have a few
Speaker 1: players left from that team, but the guts to that
Speaker 1: team is is long gone. It was only three years ago.
Speaker 1: I wonder if go into if he lands in Miami
Speaker 1: because they tried to sign him as a restrictive free
Speaker 1: agent a couple of years ago, and then they backed
Speaker 1: out of a trade for Juwan James and c J
Speaker 1: Anderson a couple of months ago, so you know the
Speaker 1: interest is there. Uh, he could be you know, they
Speaker 1: already signed Frank Gore, but that seemed like a mercy
Speaker 1: signing at the time. Sorry, I mean it was like
Speaker 1: Franklore wanted to play for the Dolphins, So the Dolphins
Speaker 1: are gonna give him the veteran minimum and you can
Speaker 1: come in and try to get carries. But I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's the answer. C J. Anderson could end
Speaker 1: up there. They don't have any running backs. They have
Speaker 1: Devontae Booker and they have that they do like D'Angelo Henderson,
Speaker 1: Like if you go back to training camp vance Joseph
Speaker 1: glowed over him, but he just wasn't ready. He's also
Speaker 1: only about five ft eight, I think. But don't you
Speaker 1: feel like they quarterback aside? If if for some reason
Speaker 1: Sequon Barkley falls down to number five, that could be
Speaker 1: a landing spot Denver. Yeah, and I would like that.
Speaker 1: That would give them some juice. This team need it
Speaker 1: needs some juice. John Elway got his man. He waited
Speaker 1: it out, he knew he needed a running back and
Speaker 1: se Quon Barkley was there all along. And then John
Speaker 1: had to make the decision is he gonna move up
Speaker 1: to get his running back that he wanted from day one?
Speaker 1: And don't let anybody tell you otherwise. John Elway wanted
Speaker 1: his man and he got him. So whoever Elway picks,
Speaker 1: even if it's the guard out of Notre Dame, there's
Speaker 1: going to be a narrative where he's he got his
Speaker 1: man's back on targeted and he's achieved his target. You
Speaker 1: let the board come to you. You stick, you stick
Speaker 1: to your board. You know the good gms, they stick
Speaker 1: to their board. They don't reach for need mass player
Speaker 1: of vala ball and hey, just because we signed case
Speaker 1: Keenum doesn't mean we're giving up on Paxton Lynch. We
Speaker 1: still have hope that he can turn his career round.
Speaker 1: We don't need to draft a quarterback, right. We don't
Speaker 1: know that he's gonna beat out Chad Kelly, a seventh
Speaker 1: round pick, for the backup job, but we we love
Speaker 1: this Guy's gonna be a long offseason for James Palmer,
Speaker 1: our friend from NFL Network, This generational running back is
Speaker 1: for John moving on, Yes, on the throne of sleeves.
Speaker 1: A lot of interest in where Rob Gronkowski and Tom
Speaker 1: Brady are with their head coach, Tom Brady well party
Speaker 1: the Adam Schefter of of ESPN. Grock will not attend
Speaker 1: the start of New England's offseason program on Monday, fueling
Speaker 1: more talk that there's some dissension there between tight end
Speaker 1: and coach. And while we're here, Jeff Darlington of ESPN
Speaker 1: reports that, uh, they do not expect Tom Brady to
Speaker 1: be a quote regular participant in the off season program
Speaker 1: and Greg there he's skipping the start of workouts because
Speaker 1: he's doing charity work in Katar Cutter, Cutter, Cutter. That's
Speaker 1: one of those things. I've read it a million um,
Speaker 1: but never heard anything very annoying pronunciation about to be
Speaker 1: you know, on the world stage right for the World
Speaker 1: Cup and qutar like cutter, I believe is how like
Speaker 1: most would say it. Like I only know that because
Speaker 1: of a previous job where I walked around the office
Speaker 1: um calling it Qatar for a month before someone pulled
Speaker 1: me into a small office said getting together. If you've
Speaker 1: ever seen the late seventies movie Breaking Away, that would
Speaker 1: give you an even different meaning for cutter. Um. Anyway, right,
Speaker 1: you know, I like to have fun with this stuff.
Speaker 1: But let's not make too much of it. But we
Speaker 1: have heard for years that the Patriots or team where
Speaker 1: it's given, they're gonna have everybody in the building at
Speaker 1: voluntary workouts. And Tommy Boy, for all the talk through
Speaker 1: the years that he's in a football machine, now he's
Speaker 1: in cutter and he's like, oh maybe I'll be there.
Speaker 1: I want to hang out with my boys and and
Speaker 1: all that stuff. What's going on over there. Well, he
Speaker 1: skipped significant parts of the off season multiple times, so
Speaker 1: it's that's not totally new. The fact that he would
Speaker 1: skip the part, especially when they're just lifting weights and
Speaker 1: he's kind of got his own training regimen, like that's
Speaker 1: not too surprising. The real story to me that was
Speaker 1: new on Monday was that we're learning through Jeff Howard
Speaker 1: the Athletic and a few other reports that Gronk wants
Speaker 1: more money. He wants a restructured contract, which puts basically
Speaker 1: everything else that's gone on from Gronk this offseason into
Speaker 1: a different light. If if it's really just about that
Speaker 1: he wants his contract we worked, which what if it's
Speaker 1: about that and other things? Yeah, I would think would
Speaker 1: be about multiple things. But ultimately, if you're saying that
Speaker 1: money is going to solve whatever troubles I have, and
Speaker 1: it's really about the money more than anything, I came
Speaker 1: away from the owner's meetings, We all those same conversations
Speaker 1: at night with a few certain individuals who some more
Speaker 1: conversations than other. Well but that but some of those
Speaker 1: close to New England, they did not just brush off
Speaker 1: all this stuff is speaking of which your boy Greg.
Speaker 1: Tom Curran had an interesting article today saying that Brady
Speaker 1: is leading a pushback against Belichick in the Patriot way,
Speaker 1: that it's no longer fun that Giselle has said in
Speaker 1: Tom versus time, he just wants to work hard, do
Speaker 1: his job and be appreciated, and he doesn't feel like
Speaker 1: that anymore. Dan is loving it well. Ever since, ever
Speaker 1: since Belichick's maniacal do your job chant at the UH
Speaker 1: post game, at at the festival or whatever, there's been festival, festival.
Speaker 1: There's been some I don't know, the Patriots Championship festival.
Speaker 1: Wasn't it No days off pep rally? Whatever? You no
Speaker 1: days all, no days all, no days all? What did
Speaker 1: I say down upon him? I would I would just
Speaker 1: point out there's been a storyline of unhappy New England
Speaker 1: Patriots players every off season, but how many of them
Speaker 1: have been and how many of them came after someone
Speaker 1: close to Belichick or multiple people close to Belichick through
Speaker 1: Brady under a moving bus in the second I'm talking
Speaker 1: about how he's missing throws. He's no longer that good
Speaker 1: to me. The feelings are real. Two thousand five did
Speaker 1: not have Alex Guerrero on the scene, and Alex Guerrero's
Speaker 1: name keeps popping up as this person who's not even
Speaker 1: attached to the organization. And I think there's probably a
Speaker 1: subset of Patriots fans that would like Alex Guerrero to
Speaker 1: go where the ball Boys went. It's a little it's
Speaker 1: under the mass Pike, namely, uh, it's a little trolley
Speaker 1: to that. Grants not participating in the program, but he's
Speaker 1: still on the Patriots grounds and Alex is little like
Speaker 1: workout hut, like doing his calisthenics and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: That's interesting, that's what we're hearing that working out with Guerrero,
Speaker 1: which happens to be on the grounds of Gillette Stadium.
Speaker 1: This this phase of off season workouts, it should be noted,
Speaker 1: is the strength and conditioning phase run by the strength
Speaker 1: and conditioning guy, which is not Alex Guerrero friendly. So
Speaker 1: everything's fine. You're still in that campig, don't worry about it. No,
Speaker 1: I'm in the camp. They're definitely gonna win the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl no matter what. Oh wait, no, that was you
Speaker 1: last like six months ago. That was me definitely. Oh
Speaker 1: all right, Dez Bryant. Let's do a little follow up
Speaker 1: on Dez uh released by the Cowboys on Friday. You know,
Speaker 1: it's really he's all in his feelings up on Twitter
Speaker 1: and everything. He is letting everyone know he wants revenge.
Speaker 1: He wants to go here, he doesn't want to go there. Apparently,
Speaker 1: there are four teams that have shown interest, according to Schefter,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, Ravens, Bills and Packers. Can I clean that
Speaker 1: up for you? In the world, here's the way that
Speaker 1: tweet was phrased. Four teams that some believe could show
Speaker 1: varying levels of interest, which Rhodo World turned into four
Speaker 1: teams interested in Dez Bryant. That's fair, Come on a World.
Speaker 1: Baltimore Sun reported, Well, it's not all their fault. I
Speaker 1: I'm the one that put it on the podcast. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're going off a Roodo what's supposed
Speaker 1: to be a reliable news site. The Baltimore Sun reports
Speaker 1: that the Ravens are interested and does so. There's another
Speaker 1: source on the Ravens could kind of see it's still
Speaker 1: can't imagine des being in another uniform, but as in
Speaker 1: Michael Crabtree and then I believe Dez had something to
Speaker 1: say about the Packers that there was too much history there,
Speaker 1: so he's not interested in playing in Green band. It's like,
Speaker 1: does just calm down a little bit, Let's take a
Speaker 1: couple of plays off, don't talk so much. Let's see
Speaker 1: how the market develops for you. Okay, yeah, that's I
Speaker 1: mean you would if you or him, you would love
Speaker 1: to sign before the draft before a lot of jobs
Speaker 1: get taken. But it might be tough. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: seeing these reports today. It's like report Brown's not interested.
Speaker 1: What are we gonna go through like all thirty teams.
Speaker 1: It sounds like he might have a hard time getting,
Speaker 1: you know, a starter type salary. It's not the greatest
Speaker 1: wide receiver draft of all time, but you're right, like
Speaker 1: what happens to you after that? A lot of holes
Speaker 1: are filled and no NFC East team has coming out
Speaker 1: of that would work quite the opposite, which is everything
Speaker 1: we did not expect. Well that and it's a little
Speaker 1: telling the teams that know Dez Bryant the most maybe
Speaker 1: aren't that interested. The most interesting post, you know, Dez
Speaker 1: released thing I believe came from his exclusive interview with
Speaker 1: Jane Slater on NFL Network, which was saucy and by
Speaker 1: the by far the most interesting part to me was
Speaker 1: where he believed that quote unquote Garrett Guys helped push
Speaker 1: him out of the building mentioned the team captain specifically,
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe it could be defensive players, but the
Speaker 1: team captain is on offense. Last year where Jason Witten
Speaker 1: and Dak Prescott, and he basically, he basically was pointing
Speaker 1: out that the Garrett guys maybe got him pushed out
Speaker 1: of the building. I like that. I'd maybe throwing Alex
Speaker 1: Guerrero as well. Was it because you don't see that
Speaker 1: too much? You a little teammate on teammate crime there? Um.
Speaker 1: By the way, why you haven't you brought it up before?
Speaker 1: Maybe think of it? How come we haven't been poached
Speaker 1: by the Athletic yet, not even a cursory email come
Speaker 1: to us. Don't have an adequate answer for you guys.
Speaker 1: You guys plugged into this major shift in the sports
Speaker 1: media landscape. They seem to be concentrating more on local market. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's always like Athletic, Boston Athletic. Uh, you know New York.
Speaker 1: They are hiring an impressive array of reporters, But I
Speaker 1: don't know about national report they have. Do they have podcasts?
Speaker 1: I'm sure someone will get back at me yet that yes,
Speaker 1: of course they have podcast podcast I used to host
Speaker 1: one of them. Probably need to be in the Pro
Speaker 1: Football Writers Association to go what you what you are
Speaker 1: not in? What? What podcast did you host for the
Speaker 1: Athletic Lisie Cleland one, Cleveland Indians Cabs Browns. Where do
Speaker 1: you come down in the Cleveland Indians logo controversy. I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not getting into that right now. I'm seeing you
Speaker 1: up like if you were hosting that podcast, you'd have
Speaker 1: to have a take. I have a take on it,
Speaker 1: but you don't want to share it on This means
Speaker 1: that you're pro wahu because you know, just let's save
Speaker 1: it for the controversial mascot pick podcast. Moving on, Sea
Speaker 1: Beast by the way, you know, yeah, living out his
Speaker 1: final days. It's the end of the road. Hey guys,
Speaker 1: the Sea Bass has found a new home upstream in
Speaker 1: the Pacific Northwest. Oh yeah, it's a Mark Seessler banger.
Speaker 1: You know what. That's no, you know what. I am off.
Speaker 1: It's Friday. I am often fifteen minutes and this news
Speaker 1: gets dropped in my lap, and so I am going
Speaker 1: to write it as fast as possible. I could tell
Speaker 1: this is about a hundred and seventy words. But a fury.
Speaker 1: The veteran kicker signed a one year deal with the Seahawks. Uh.
Speaker 1: This was reported by Rap Sheep. A team then confirmed
Speaker 1: the move. Of course, Sea Bass was not kicking last
Speaker 1: year he was a member of the Raidar Raiders, but
Speaker 1: he had like, what was that a back issue last year?
Speaker 1: Injured reserve the injured, yes, uh. And then the Raiders
Speaker 1: moved on without Sea Bass. And now he catches on
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Oh you like this one? Mark, feels like
Speaker 1: a pretty fun signing by the Sea I love it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we were all waiting for him
Speaker 1: to get back in the league somewhere, and I think
Speaker 1: he's on the gray Beards already. But well that's true
Speaker 1: from that angle, that's a big loss for you. Um,
Speaker 1: there are other kickers out there. But I love it.
Speaker 1: I think this. I would love to see the Seattle's
Speaker 1: had some you know, some weird stuff with their kickers
Speaker 1: for a long time now. I don't know if the
Speaker 1: Sea Bass is the He's got to stay healthy, by
Speaker 1: the way, I know. But it's the same time, like
Speaker 1: I what do I want the NFL with him or
Speaker 1: without him? With him? Please? I wasn't saying, like Mark,
Speaker 1: he's by the way I'm writing these leads to the
Speaker 1: science simply too simply to make you have to read them.
Speaker 1: I don't have to. I just enjoy them. They're they're fun.
Speaker 1: Did you have anything to do with the head line
Speaker 1: which is on fire Seattle Sea Bass. No, it was no,
Speaker 1: hang on. It was actually in the another headline, Sea
Speaker 1: Bass in Seattle Colon, which is very nice take on sleep.
Speaker 1: I talked to NFL Media programming on that one. I
Speaker 1: did not cook that up. And then whoever altered the
Speaker 1: headline in the post lost the complete nuance of it
Speaker 1: and just made it Seattle Sea Bass. Let's conduct ship
Speaker 1: that to David Eally. See how that he go? Can't
Speaker 1: you just well, I mean that's he runs. Can't you
Speaker 1: just see like the year is twenty and they're like,
Speaker 1: it's today. We welcome Sebastian Janikowski to raise the twelfth
Speaker 1: man flag. He hit the game winner of the wild
Speaker 1: card game in two thousand nine. That's when he's coming back.
Speaker 1: So I missed the bit because I was conferring with
Speaker 1: West about something on the podcast, and my apologies. A
Speaker 1: very solid bit. Yeah you probably deserve some pop there,
Speaker 1: but sort of a Seahawks game, I'd like to be
Speaker 1: tuned out. It's good. I distracted him with my handwriting,
Speaker 1: and you know, but it was probably good. There is
Speaker 1: news that West reminded me of that Eric Kendricks of
Speaker 1: the Vikings signed a five year, fifty million dollar extension
Speaker 1: with the team in West. I'll get right to you
Speaker 1: on this because you reminded me of it. What's the
Speaker 1: deal with Eric Kendricks? You like that? Well? He's the
Speaker 1: first Vikings defender since Rip Hawkins in nineteen sixty one
Speaker 1: to nineteen sixty four to lead the team in total
Speaker 1: tackles in each of his first three seasons. He's the
Speaker 1: beating heart of that front seven, which is one of
Speaker 1: the best in the NFL. And for all of this
Speaker 1: idea that the Vikings wouldn't be able to pay their
Speaker 1: nucleus players after paying Kirk Cousins, They're up to a
Speaker 1: pretty good start there they have. They already have Harrison Smith,
Speaker 1: Zavier Rhodes, Everson Griffin, Lynval Joseph locked up. All these
Speaker 1: guys are all pros, and Pro Bowlers Anthony Barr and
Speaker 1: Daniel Hunter are next on the list. They'll have to
Speaker 1: pay Stephon Digs too, but I think it points to
Speaker 1: how well Rick Spielman has drafted, especially on defense. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me if bar is near the top of our
Speaker 1: free agent rankings a year from now. I would have
Speaker 1: been surprised, you know, three years ago that Kendricks would
Speaker 1: have been such a priority over Bar. But I'm not
Speaker 1: anymore because he's kind of turned into the core key player.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if they're gonna be able to
Speaker 1: keep Anthony Barr long term, and I don't necessarily believe
Speaker 1: they probably feel like they have to. I think Kendricks
Speaker 1: to them is is the bigger difference maker. Finally, Sean
Speaker 1: Payton is not thrilled. He's not flying, He's not over
Speaker 1: the moon about this draft class. Uh, specifically the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: UH telling Monday Morning Quarterback that there is no prospect
Speaker 1: as good as UH Andrew Luck or Carson Wentz in
Speaker 1: this draft, and he added this, I'd feel a little
Speaker 1: bit uneasy if I were at the top of this
Speaker 1: draft and I decided I had to have a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Pay attention Mark and myself. The pressure to get a
Speaker 1: quarterback is so great in this league. I get that,
Speaker 1: but we can't create him. I wouldn't be surprised if
Speaker 1: only one of these guys is left standing in four
Speaker 1: or five years. WHOA And if so, I guess it
Speaker 1: would be Sam Donald. Uh. Your thoughts on that, Mark Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, don't think he's the first person to come
Speaker 1: out and say there is no but out of the league,
Speaker 1: or I guess I think odds tell you that if
Speaker 1: you're gonna pick five in the first half of the
Speaker 1: first round, probably two of them are legit three or
Speaker 1: four years from now. I mean, you'd wanted to be more.
Speaker 1: All I'd say, though, is that even when Carson Wentz,
Speaker 1: now you're saying none of these, no one is Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: When Carson Wentz was in this same exact part of
Speaker 1: the process, opinions on him were all over the map.
Speaker 1: And even after Carson wentz first season, people weren't convinced
Speaker 1: about Carson Wentz. And a year ago. You know, it's
Speaker 1: nice in October when everyone can say I knew to
Speaker 1: Shaun Watson was going to blow up and make the
Speaker 1: Texans offense the most fun thing to watch in the league.
Speaker 1: But at this time a year ago, there weren't a
Speaker 1: lot of people hot on DeShawn Watson either. So, you know,
Speaker 1: let's see a bit of revisionist history from Sean Payton
Speaker 1: putting how Wentz was evaluated on par with Andrew Luck,
Speaker 1: who was viewed as the most can't miss prospects since
Speaker 1: lay or Peyton money. Whereas Wentz, a lot of people
Speaker 1: did believe in him, but he had a lot of
Speaker 1: doubters too. Maybe maybe, just maybe it's he's being honest,
Speaker 1: because it's surprising to hear just because you would think
Speaker 1: he'd be in the market for a quarterback, especially considering
Speaker 1: it's a great sliding doors moment for the NFL, like
Speaker 1: they were gonna take Patrick Mahomes like that had been reported.
Speaker 1: A couple of people within the Saints said that they
Speaker 1: were ready to do it. They wind up with Marshawn
Speaker 1: Lattimore instead. Maybe he doesn't see a guy that he
Speaker 1: would take. You know that he would have been as
Speaker 1: excited about as he was with Mahomes, and that makes well.
Speaker 1: I think he's also saying, if you're if you're up
Speaker 1: there at number one and number three and there's these
Speaker 1: teams that listen and barring something totally unexpected, you are
Speaker 1: going quarterback, and you're kind of stuck in a position
Speaker 1: to take one because you not had one in your
Speaker 1: fan base. Unless you're like forty years old, you don't
Speaker 1: remember the Jets are Browns are filling the blank bills
Speaker 1: having one of the players, you're pressured into making this move,
Speaker 1: and that's where you're get into trouble with a front
Speaker 1: office and coaching staff. And by the way, if you
Speaker 1: are asking, because I for a second passed my mind
Speaker 1: as well, which was, let's Sean Payton know about, you know,
Speaker 1: developing a quarterback from scratch and all that. He had
Speaker 1: Drew Brees fall into his lap and they've been flying
Speaker 1: ever since. He was the Dallas Cowboys quarterbacks coach and
Speaker 1: assistant coach back in two thousand three through two thousand five,
Speaker 1: which is right when Tony Romo came. He Cowboys would
Speaker 1: not have had Tony Romo if it were not for
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. Was he connected to the Quincy Carter Chad
Speaker 1: Hutchinson era in Dallas. Uh. He started in two thousand three,
Speaker 1: so you can do. But he's he he went they
Speaker 1: both he and Romo went to the same school, and
Speaker 1: he he lobbied hard for Tony Romo and is the
Speaker 1: huge reason that the Cowboys went with him. He was
Speaker 1: also the University of Illinois quarterbacks coach for a single
Speaker 1: season at night, had a great job with Carrie Collins
Speaker 1: in New York. I think that was what really helped
Speaker 1: national notice. He was the quarterbacks coach for the Giants.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, then promoted Greg to offensive coordinator. Wasn't John
Speaker 1: Fox the de coordinator on that team? He sure was? Was?
Speaker 1: I believe he was good staff. Nice staff. When you're
Speaker 1: taking the top of the chain. Who was it Mark
Speaker 1: Jim Fossils for the Giants? Oh? Please? W f a
Speaker 1: n NonStop chatter on Jim Fossil back in the days.
Speaker 1: His son a talented special teams. We can let John Fossil.
Speaker 1: That's Bones Bones. Wait, John Fossils, the ABC correspondent. What's
Speaker 1: his name? Is it John Fossil? The who's Jim Fossil's son,
Speaker 1: Jim Fossils Bones? Oh, Bones is Jim? Yeah? Bones is
Speaker 1: his son? Yeah? The Rams special the best special teams.
Speaker 1: The next episode will have our next edition of tales
Speaker 1: from the two thousand one Giants Wikipedia page. John Fossil
Speaker 1: was the Giants code you're thinking of Stossel and then
Speaker 1: went the news guy and then went to the UFL
Speaker 1: Jim Fossil is John Fossil's son? Is that right? You're
Speaker 1: the other way around? Dan? Briefly, Naane dropped John Stossel,
Speaker 1: the news man. That guy wasn't afraid to get the
Speaker 1: heavy news and fossil mustache and Mark Sanchez got suspended
Speaker 1: four games. That is not good for agency stock. That's
Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. All right, just kind of
Speaker 1: rolling over Sanchez. Do you do we have anything to
Speaker 1: say the news bomb third string quarterback Lass Room. Is
Speaker 1: he even in the league. He's a free agent and
Speaker 1: that is not going to help him get a gig.
Speaker 1: Just one of many, you know, members from that Jets
Speaker 1: team to eventually end in ruin. Are you talking about
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan, Mark's best friend. I don't know how these
Speaker 1: guys are all making. They have made a lot of
Speaker 1: money and they will continue to make a lot of
Speaker 1: We uh, call Rex right now. Talk about Mark. We
Speaker 1: discussed this. We'll do it at a time that fits. Cold.
Speaker 1: Call Mark Sanche's call the news. You can call Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 1: He had a tattoo. He did have a tattoo of
Speaker 1: Mark Sanche. Not happening. Let's call them, Let's call them,
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Speaker 1: baby up next. It is the continuation of our draft
Speaker 1: quarterback series. Oh yeah, guys, we need to talk about
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, the Oklahoma Star, three year star, a starter
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma one won a whole messa games, won the
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy last year. Also a little bit of heat,
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley, a little controversy. I know you bounced around
Speaker 1: at some universities throughout your younger years, matriculated several different places. Um,
Speaker 1: and you probably got yourself in a little bit of
Speaker 1: trouble here and there. I would say, maybe Mayfield type trouble.
Speaker 1: Maybe a little incident at a food truck. I never
Speaker 1: beamed anyone in the head on purpose. Maybe made an
Speaker 1: obscene gesture at some point. I'm not big on obscene gestures. Alright,
Speaker 1: another man not big on obscene gestures because he's a
Speaker 1: Southern gentleman of the highest order. His name is Chase Goodbread.
Speaker 1: He writes he's our lead writer. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if that's the title, but I'm gonna call him the
Speaker 1: lead writer for our college football coverage on NFL dot com.
Speaker 1: Uh Carbs, what's up, buddy? Welcome back to the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. Glad to be back in here after
Speaker 1: that that debut around the Combine. Good to be in Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you were a breakout star at the Combine, and uh,
Speaker 1: I did. I might be springing this on you, but
Speaker 1: at the end of this conversation, because I did tease
Speaker 1: it at the Combine, I'm gonna need your top five
Speaker 1: drive by Trucker's songs. Let's save that for the end,
Speaker 1: and I hope you have it on the top of
Speaker 1: your head. Chase. It's a little pressure, alright, very good, Um, alright, confidence.
Speaker 1: So I reached out to Chase because Chase, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he's a dude. He fild it last time was on
Speaker 1: the show and I said, we have uh x y
Speaker 1: Z prospects to talk about, and which one jumps out
Speaker 1: to you or that the one that you would like
Speaker 1: to talk about the most. And you did not hesitate, Chase.
Speaker 1: You said, give me Baker Mayfield. Tell me why Mayfield
Speaker 1: is a guy that you wanted to talk about on
Speaker 1: our show. Yeah, he's so intriguing with his skill set,
Speaker 1: with his personality. He's kind of an al liar among
Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks in the draft in those ways. So
Speaker 1: he's uh, he's gonna be a fun watch no matter
Speaker 1: how things play out for him. And it's such a
Speaker 1: quarterback rich draft, and it's looking like there's so much
Speaker 1: interest at the quarterback with the Jets moving up the
Speaker 1: way they did. The Bills have already moved up once.
Speaker 1: Who knows if they'll try to move up again. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be It's gonna be a good time. And and uh,
Speaker 1: Mayfield's I kind of think Mayfield is gonna break out
Speaker 1: and be the guy that I mean, I guess you
Speaker 1: could say Jared Office already kind of that guy because
Speaker 1: he played in a kind of a cousin of the Ara.
Speaker 1: You know, this air raid college offense has gotten this
Speaker 1: horrible reputation as an offense that just does not translate
Speaker 1: at all in the NFL. And Jared Goff being so
Speaker 1: strong as he was in year two coming out of
Speaker 1: that Cow offense, which was a cousin of the air raide.
Speaker 1: They called it the Bear Ray. Of course at Cow.
Speaker 1: Mayfield played in an air raid cousin too at Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: And uh, I think he's I think he's gonna do
Speaker 1: just fine at the next level. So if golf was
Speaker 1: the first and then I think Mayfield to be the second.
Speaker 1: If he was an inch and a half taller, would
Speaker 1: he be the no brainer number one pick? I don't
Speaker 1: know if he'd be a no brainer because you know,
Speaker 1: there there's there's so much talent with Donald and some
Speaker 1: of these other guys involved. I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know that no brainer is as a label
Speaker 1: that I would put on it. But he would definitely, Uh,
Speaker 1: he would, he would definitely grade better. I think, uh,
Speaker 1: it's a kid. The heights a concern, it has to be.
Speaker 1: There's only a couple of quarterbacks that short in the
Speaker 1: NFL Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, and that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1: So so that's definitely something that he's going to have
Speaker 1: to get past, and uh, layding with the right team
Speaker 1: will be a big part of that for him. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know you you find him to be the most
Speaker 1: fascinating quarterback of the group. If you are a GM
Speaker 1: sitting at you know you got your first pick of quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Where does he fall in this group? Is he your
Speaker 1: number one guy? And why can I not imagine you
Speaker 1: answering every one of these questions with like a tumbler
Speaker 1: of bourbon Bourbon in your hand just feels that way
Speaker 1: with you. Chase, Uh, well, yeah, I think he probably
Speaker 1: would be just said, well, well, yes, I am drunk.
Speaker 1: Now I continue my statements. I'm looking forward to seeing
Speaker 1: a Lamar Jackson pans out too. We talked about that
Speaker 1: last time. I think Jackson's uh an electric player and
Speaker 1: a kind of a wild card in this whole thing too.
Speaker 1: And it's if you go back and look at past drafts,
Speaker 1: you can see it all over the place. You know
Speaker 1: that that it doesn't fall the way it's drafted in
Speaker 1: terms of who's gonna shake out the best. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, look at Derek Carr for instance. I think
Speaker 1: he was the fourth quarterback picked in his draft and
Speaker 1: he's turned out great for the Raiders. It's just you
Speaker 1: just never know. It takes more than a year, takes
Speaker 1: a couple of three years. But Mayfield is going to
Speaker 1: be fun. And you know his uh he's got that
Speaker 1: big chip on his shoulder too, which I know is
Speaker 1: is going to be uh something He'll probably have to
Speaker 1: reign back a little bit, you know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if y'all saw. A couple of weeks ago, it was
Speaker 1: reported that he actually keeps a list of medium members
Speaker 1: that he feels like have been overly critical of him.
Speaker 1: This guy's great. That's probably an edge you'll have to
Speaker 1: smooth over a little bit. But don't you want an
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback with an edge? Don't you want an NFL
Speaker 1: quarterback with an edge? I mean, I know some of
Speaker 1: the stuff he's done. It to me, it sounds like
Speaker 1: what NFL teams will want out of their quarterback, that
Speaker 1: insane competitive level. I think it's good to have that
Speaker 1: motivational edge. I think it's good to have a chip
Speaker 1: on your shoulder. But I also think that if you're
Speaker 1: rabbit ears are too tall for criticism, that can be
Speaker 1: a bad thing, especially if you land in a in
Speaker 1: a huge market like New York. You know, let's let's
Speaker 1: say the Jets end up with with Baker Mayfield and
Speaker 1: he has a rough go. Is his his first couple
Speaker 1: of years as a starter. To me, he better have
Speaker 1: some extra blank pages in the back of that notebook
Speaker 1: where he's keeping the track of all this. That's like
Speaker 1: my question with it, is you're keeping this list? Is
Speaker 1: it guys to shun the guys to seek out to
Speaker 1: do interviews with? Are you looking to assassinate these reporters like,
Speaker 1: what is a hit list? Is it a hit list?
Speaker 1: What is it exactly? I don't even understand it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I think only Baker's seen it more more than likely.
Speaker 1: But uh, you know who who knows it's It's probably
Speaker 1: just something he's kind of keeping new himself and maybe
Speaker 1: an opportune time. Are you do you think you're on
Speaker 1: a card? Who knows? You know him? In the fall?
Speaker 1: I don't think I was overly critical. I thought it
Speaker 1: was pretty fair. But but but who knows, Maybe I'll
Speaker 1: maybe I'll find out one day. Don't you think the
Speaker 1: perception of the spread or air raid quarterbacks and even
Speaker 1: his size has changed over the last few years to
Speaker 1: the point that we are talking about Baker Mayfield as
Speaker 1: a top ten pick because it doesn't seem like it's
Speaker 1: really hurting his stock, whereas maybe if he was coming out,
Speaker 1: you know, when Russell Wilson was coming out or a
Speaker 1: few years back, that maybe teams would look at him
Speaker 1: differently because it doesn't seem like there's a ton of
Speaker 1: doubt pff at a great note that you know, they
Speaker 1: keep track of something they call basically NFL throws. And
Speaker 1: and even though he has all those easy throws in
Speaker 1: that offense. They thought he had the eighth most NFL
Speaker 1: throws in terms of attempts of any quarterback in the
Speaker 1: kind tree last year, and they rated him as the
Speaker 1: most effective quarterback in the country on those types of throws.
Speaker 1: I would think at this point the team should be
Speaker 1: looking at what he did and think, wait, that translates
Speaker 1: to the NFL. That looks a lot like what the
Speaker 1: Eagles UH did in the playoffs. Throughout the fact that
Speaker 1: he can handle the ball well, the fact that he's
Speaker 1: clearly good at play action, UH, that he's versatile, that
Speaker 1: he can be in the shotgun. It's like that is
Speaker 1: NFL football now, or at least it's a lot closer
Speaker 1: to it, don't you think. Yeah, the NFL has definitely
Speaker 1: trended more towards UH catering to the spread, this college
Speaker 1: spread offense, doing things that these college quarterbacks are more
Speaker 1: comfortable with. You definitely see that. But the air raid
Speaker 1: has been a little bit of an outlier for that.
Speaker 1: And it's it's interesting, you know the history of Mike
Speaker 1: Leach at Washington State is basically the active godfather of
Speaker 1: the air raid, and Lincoln Riley, who's the head coach
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma, kind I learned at the foot of Mike Leach,
Speaker 1: and when he left Leach and Texas Tech went on
Speaker 1: did his own thing. He took the head job at
Speaker 1: East Carolina, he tweaked it, he changed it. He kind
Speaker 1: of he created something a little bit different. So what
Speaker 1: you have at Oklahoma isn't exactly the pure air raid.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that makes it different is
Speaker 1: is that Baker Mayfield had a lot of control at
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage at Oklahoma, Whereas in a lot
Speaker 1: of air raids, the quarterback is really just looking over
Speaker 1: the sideline and and and getting all his cues. Mayfield
Speaker 1: had more audible authority and um just ran things, you know,
Speaker 1: changing protections and all that kind of stuff that will
Speaker 1: help him at the next level. A lot he to
Speaker 1: me is the there like effort, let's just go for
Speaker 1: it guy to take in this draft. I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: the Jets with a three pick because it could go
Speaker 1: terribly wrong. It could go as wrong potentially as Men's
Speaker 1: l went in Cleveland. Although it's maybe unfair to say
Speaker 1: that they're the same type of guy, because it's not
Speaker 1: the same issues that we know of, But that it
Speaker 1: could be this guy that's all all style and no
Speaker 1: actual substance. But there's a lot of differences in their
Speaker 1: game as well. Like this, any talk about Manziel and
Speaker 1: Mayfield has been about some of the off the field
Speaker 1: stuff and the swagger type stuff, like these are very different,
Speaker 1: uh football players, right Jays, they are. And I kind
Speaker 1: of dealt with that a little bit in the feature story.
Speaker 1: You know, it's people wanna lump Mayfield and Manziel into
Speaker 1: the same category because they have, you know, they had
Speaker 1: they were so brash at the college level. They they've
Speaker 1: had a you know, an incentent or two off the field, etcetera.
Speaker 1: And they're playing style was a little on the reckless
Speaker 1: side for sure. So there are a lot of superficial similarities.
Speaker 1: I guess you could say similarities on the surface, but
Speaker 1: when you dig a little deeper, um, there are some
Speaker 1: big differences. Mayfield, for instance, I think at least scouts
Speaker 1: have told me, had far better footwork than Manzil. Uh
Speaker 1: did a better job as seeing the field than Manzil,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, he he didn't exactly have Mike
Speaker 1: Evans where he could just tossle robs like Manzil. Did
Speaker 1: and get tons of production, uh from a guy that
Speaker 1: was just bigger and stronger and taller than everybody else
Speaker 1: to catch the ball like Evans was seems like it
Speaker 1: seems like if there's a concern for him, he relies
Speaker 1: a lot on his athleticism. But but he reminded me
Speaker 1: a little bit of like he's not he's not quite
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor. Like he's very careful, he doesn't turn the
Speaker 1: ball over too much, but he waits until someone's open.
Speaker 1: And that would be my concern with him, is that, like,
Speaker 1: if you're relying on your athleticism at the next level,
Speaker 1: he's not quite Tyrod Taylor. Athletically, no one is quite
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, uh in terms of their ability to make
Speaker 1: plays after scrambles. And if he's overly relying at that
Speaker 1: at the next level like that, that's a bit of
Speaker 1: a concern. I know he's very accurate and everything, but
Speaker 1: he seemed he seemed like he was a guy who
Speaker 1: sometimes would be waiting a little too long for the
Speaker 1: play to develop. Yeah, Manziel kind of wanted to touch
Speaker 1: down on every snap. And and even though Mayfield's got
Speaker 1: the instinct to extend the play and always try to
Speaker 1: make something out of nothing. I think Mayfield definitely has
Speaker 1: a little bit more of a sense of field position,
Speaker 1: scoreboard situation. You know, will the field goal do here?
Speaker 1: You know that kind of thing. So, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: all that plays into it. But but it's and you know,
Speaker 1: be fun to see him in Miami, right And I
Speaker 1: think a couple of the mic drafts on NFL media
Speaker 1: have got to have got a mock to to the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: So that'll be and and that could end up working
Speaker 1: out if if the Donalds and the Rosins and those
Speaker 1: guys go first, where interesting players go to disappear my
Speaker 1: I mean, chase before we let you go, Before we
Speaker 1: get into our top five drive by Trucker's songs, I
Speaker 1: want to touch on that long form that you put
Speaker 1: out last week on Dubuque cornerback Michael Joseph, who was
Speaker 1: one of the best stories of the draft. You want
Speaker 1: to just give people a little heads up what the
Speaker 1: story is about and then we could send them in
Speaker 1: your direction. Yeah. Absolutely, Michael Joseph is not an amual
Speaker 1: here on the on the first day or probably the
Speaker 1: second day either it'll be a third day pick, maybe
Speaker 1: an oh late pick. He's from the University of Dubuque,
Speaker 1: which is a walk on program in Iowa. It's a
Speaker 1: Division three program. He was a hundred and thirty pounds
Speaker 1: in high school, five ft eight and was totally unrecruited.
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted him, and he managed to kind of halfway
Speaker 1: sneak his way onto the roster at Dubuque. And from there.
Speaker 1: The story is kind of Disney like. He put on
Speaker 1: you know, ten pounds a year. He he wasn't even
Speaker 1: part of the team. Actually his first year on campus,
Speaker 1: had to work out on his own, and you know,
Speaker 1: kept getting a little bigger and kept getting a little
Speaker 1: stronger and a little taller, and it took a whole
Speaker 1: lot of work, and there was a lot of adversity involved.
Speaker 1: But on the other side of it, he comes out
Speaker 1: the best. He got an award is the best small
Speaker 1: school defensive back in the country. Uh. He's now six one,
Speaker 1: roughly had a pro day at Iowa State where he
Speaker 1: ran uh in the low four fives, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: to to go from where he was to where he
Speaker 1: is is pretty remarkable. I love them. I read this
Speaker 1: this morning, and you talk about how Michael Joseph had
Speaker 1: two on his own put together a highlight reel of
Speaker 1: his what I think it was sixteen plays he played
Speaker 1: on the high school team, and the first play was
Speaker 1: an incompletion where he nearly was burnt for a touchdown,
Speaker 1: and his friend was like, this video needs some work.
Speaker 1: That sounds like my high school highlight tape, by the way,
Speaker 1: so we gotta tak something else. He actually he uh
Speaker 1: when he finished the first cut of his highlight video
Speaker 1: that he was going to try to get himself recruited with,
Speaker 1: it was less than three minutes long, and he thought
Speaker 1: that was too short, so he went back and added
Speaker 1: all the opposing quarterbacks pre snapped cadences to lengthen stretch
Speaker 1: it out and second and then his friend mentioned that
Speaker 1: he's like every play is in garbage time. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of work needs to be done on this sizzle
Speaker 1: reel Michael Joseph. It was all he had, but I
Speaker 1: guess it was enough. Did they give you a vanity
Speaker 1: your all on this chase for people to go check
Speaker 1: it out? NFL dot com slash Michael Joseph beautiful, so
Speaker 1: check that out. And last, but not least, this is
Speaker 1: what everybody's been waiting for. And if you don't know
Speaker 1: drive by truckers, tell me if this is a good
Speaker 1: way to introduce them to the audience. They're they're from Athens, Georgia,
Speaker 1: been around about twenty years now. Great like kind of
Speaker 1: southern rock guitar guitar rock type band and country all
Speaker 1: country like a great bar band, almost that that went
Speaker 1: went big. Is that there only one slight correction. They're
Speaker 1: they're actually from Muscle Shoals of Alabama. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: that's a big correction. I apologize, that's sorry. Athens is
Speaker 1: where they um kind of pulled themselves together as a band.
Speaker 1: But the roots are definitely in Muscle Shoals, which is
Speaker 1: steeped and music history, as I'm sure you all know.
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm writing a long form on that right now.
Speaker 1: There's a great there used to be a great documentary
Speaker 1: on Netflix about the Muscle Shoals music scene. Really, if
Speaker 1: they canceled out there, you wouldn't move through the list
Speaker 1: of people that that recorded there. All Right, here we go,
Speaker 1: it's time for the top five. Do it. Let's start
Speaker 1: with five and go to one, alright, five to one,
Speaker 1: Ghost to most, Ghost to most number five, Uh, cotton
Speaker 1: Seed at four. Also Mike Cooley, he eathens Uh Patterson
Speaker 1: hood song that I like a whole bunch, got some
Speaker 1: really good slide guitar from Jason Isabel and that one
Speaker 1: who's no longer with the band. What number that's number three? Uh?
Speaker 1: Heathens three, number three? Heathens Uh sans of Ewa Jima.
Speaker 1: Oh wow? That hit number two? Yeah? Two? And then
Speaker 1: the number one. Wait, wait, let me get let's build
Speaker 1: this up a little timpani please. The number one? Uh?
Speaker 1: Question about it? That is uh to me? Zip City
Speaker 1: is is the drive by truckers Stairway to Heaven? Zip City?
Speaker 1: And I would play a portion of it right now
Speaker 1: if the Shadowy League figures weren't so afraid of their
Speaker 1: own shadows. Unfortunately, so instead you'll just have to look
Speaker 1: it up. Zip City off Southern Rock Opera. There you go,
Speaker 1: five essential drive by Truckers on some Chase Goodbread again.
Speaker 1: Check him out on Twitter at Chase Goodbread. Is that correct? Yes, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: And check out his new long form on Michael Joseph
Speaker 1: And thank you very much forgiving us a little Baker
Speaker 1: Mayfield insight. Chase good to hear from you. Carbs. Alright
Speaker 1: enjoyed a guy. All right, there he goes Carbs off
Speaker 1: into that good night. I meant to ask him because
Speaker 1: it was there was an irony to the last time
Speaker 1: we saw him at the combine. A man that some
Speaker 1: people called Carbs had cut out Carbs. He was denying
Speaker 1: himself himself, right, which was that's a tough thing to do.
Speaker 1: You would think maybe that would be a long stretch
Speaker 1: that was a long time agoin bod would be pretty
Speaker 1: tight if he was still do next time he's on
Speaker 1: the show. A reminder on Friday, self, Hayton stuff right there,
Speaker 1: can't even have a reminder next Friday or this Friday.
Speaker 1: The return of your the gm uh and uh ready
Speaker 1: for that? And um that's it. Anybody else have anything
Speaker 1: to say about today in the NFL? I got no dukes.
Speaker 1: My sweater bro it's making his debut on the podcast.
Speaker 1: See that I noticed it. Well, it's a little, you know,
Speaker 1: sneaky cool today in l A A little bit, a
Speaker 1: little bit of a breeze, alright, he says, as there's
Speaker 1: twenty three inches of snow and green Bay stand designing
Speaker 1: got four a quiet storm, the mailman, the old Boss
Speaker 1: and this money bags Lindsay fault Time behind the Glass
Speaker 1: until Wednesday