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Speaker 1: showed up at his dad's house, slashed my tires alright,
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Speaker 1: Ah see your boyfriend's ex slash your tires? Uh? You
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Speaker 1: that means a lot, and you can't discount that, you can't.
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Speaker 1: by what whereas there's no excuse for her slashing your
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Speaker 1: she slashed your tire, she whatever the funk she did.
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Speaker 1: you can't bust in me right now, I mean birth control.
Speaker 1: You can use a condom. That's literally the point of
Speaker 1: a condom. Anyway, I'm moving on. Um. But since I'm
Speaker 1: a giver, I'm always accepting of someone busting in my mouth.
Speaker 1: Busting what a word. However, I've come across an issue
Speaker 1: where the morning after I swallow, I wake up with
Speaker 1: horrible diarrhea and stomach pains. I was wondering if you
Speaker 1: or anyone you know have ever experienced something like this.
Speaker 1: It's not so much of a problem because I haven't
Speaker 1: been staying over at anyone's place afterwards. Right now, it's
Speaker 1: just a nuisance in my life, and I'd like to
Speaker 1: find out whether or not I'm alone in this problem.
Speaker 1: Hopes hear back from you. Okay, all right, so I'm
Speaker 1: going to solve your problem more at least give you
Speaker 1: some information on it. But number one, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things in this email that bothered me, the giving giving.
Speaker 1: So it's like you're like, this isn't a problem, because
Speaker 1: the only problem would be if you had a diarrhea
Speaker 1: in the guy's house. No, the problem is that you
Speaker 1: are allowing yourself to do something that is physically repulsive
Speaker 1: to you and causing you pain. Don't do it any
Speaker 1: don't do it anymore. Don't have to. There's a difference
Speaker 1: between being a giver and than just being someone who's
Speaker 1: getting fucking walked all over and getting come in your
Speaker 1: throat by people who aren't even your boyfriend is stre
Speaker 1: in my life. This is out of control. No one
Speaker 1: is in your throat unless you're okay with it. Jesus damn.
Speaker 1: And I mean I don't, I don't even know. Maybe
Speaker 1: you're not even it's not even grossing you out, but
Speaker 1: on some like visceral level, your body is saying stop
Speaker 1: doing this. And when we have to listen to our bodies.
Speaker 1: So I know what, oftentimes when your head can't make
Speaker 1: a decision, your body will um and other gems. Uh
Speaker 1: So I went to go ask Alice, which is a
Speaker 1: Columbia dot e d you site that I go to.
Speaker 1: They have they have a lot of interesting question answers
Speaker 1: to kind of off the grid problems, I will say.
Speaker 1: And so two people wrote in about getting diarrhea when
Speaker 1: they get ejaculate. Um never the only one guys goes
Speaker 1: to show you yeah, no, And so there's a lot
Speaker 1: of mental reasons basically for you. For if you don't know,
Speaker 1: male ejaculate consists of fruit, toast, sugar, man water, be diabetic,
Speaker 1: and a variety of other proteins. None are considered to
Speaker 1: have laxative properties. In fact, semen is non toxic and
Speaker 1: safe to ingest, ing in quantities larger than the one
Speaker 1: to two teaspoons that the average man ejaculates. Okay, so
Speaker 1: that's just just so, yeah, the facts about it's very
Speaker 1: good to know. Um So, a lot of the times
Speaker 1: the reason people are getting diarrhea when they get ejaculate
Speaker 1: in their mouth is because they feel nervous about the
Speaker 1: sexual experience. Or they feel nervous about swallowing in general. Okay, Um.
Speaker 1: The second reason is because basically poop gets mixed into
Speaker 1: the calm. So if you're doing things, if you're doing
Speaker 1: other things like um, like anal play or something, the
Speaker 1: same as if like if with a woman, like as
Speaker 1: you're dripping, sometimes your fluid like attaches other fluids, like
Speaker 1: if you have your period, you know sometimes that'll mix
Speaker 1: if you have your butt, So this is all mixed.
Speaker 1: And so if you're getting any kind of a daily
Speaker 1: harvest for women's so if you're getting if you're getting
Speaker 1: any poop in your mouth, that's bacterial and you're gonna
Speaker 1: immediately get sick from that. That I mean that can be.
Speaker 1: Getting poop in your mouth is really fucking dangerous. Actually,
Speaker 1: don't get poop in your mouth. Another thing is like
Speaker 1: if you just dislike the taste, like if you don't
Speaker 1: mind doing it, uh in your mind, that's fine, But
Speaker 1: if you your mouth is saying no, I don't like
Speaker 1: the way this taste, that's another reason why you could
Speaker 1: be getting sick from it. Um. And then also they
Speaker 1: say have you consumed something else before swallowing? But if
Speaker 1: you all those you're like, no, that's not the problem.
Speaker 1: You can actually be allergic to semen. It's not just
Speaker 1: a fun girls, It's not just a fun excuse to say, um,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's called HSP allergy human seminal plasma allergy.
Speaker 1: It's an allergic reaction to the proteins in semen um.
Speaker 1: H SP allergy has largely only been studied in women
Speaker 1: who are allergic to their partners semen, because I mean
Speaker 1: that would be problematic. And it's most common from ages
Speaker 1: twenty to thirty. Although some will have a localized reaction
Speaker 1: such as itchiness where the semen touches, more often they
Speaker 1: experience a whole body reaction, which can include respiratory illness, hives,
Speaker 1: gastro intestinal symptoms like diarrhea. Okay, God, and then and
Speaker 1: then the one last thing that it could be is
Speaker 1: post orgasmic illness syndrome. It's p o i S. It's
Speaker 1: thought to be experience. It's thought to be the experience
Speaker 1: of flu like symptoms that develop after a man ejaculates.
Speaker 1: And I think I have this, um, but you can
Speaker 1: take the world. I gotta I got comb cough. Guys
Speaker 1: can't come in to work today acuse the idea is
Speaker 1: that the tissue of the man's urinary tract reacts to
Speaker 1: his own semen, causing the immune system to respond. However,
Speaker 1: this sort of reaction would occur nearly every time a
Speaker 1: man ejaculates, not just after consuming your own semen. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: so that's man. There's a lot of things tips there,
Speaker 1: but just the overall, the mean problem is not that
Speaker 1: you have diarrhea. The problem is that you get diarrhea
Speaker 1: from coming your mouth, and then you keep sucking, letting
Speaker 1: people call in your mouth. Don't get coming your mouth,
Speaker 1: stop doing that, come out of your mouth, love yourself,
Speaker 1: don't do it. Close your mouth. Oh man, I get
Speaker 1: so empty. I just these are the kind of emails
Speaker 1: that I lose sleepover. Man. We did a bonus episode,
Speaker 1: said your premium dot com slash gw lf Uh. We
Speaker 1: have a lot of really fucking good ones. Uh where
Speaker 1: we read this one email and I even forget what
Speaker 1: the problem was, but it was a very like I
Speaker 1: got so mad at this girl who wrote us, because
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're doing something you don't want to do.
Speaker 1: Stop doing it it. Yeah, I don't know why that's
Speaker 1: so hard, and I don't know. I do it too.
Speaker 1: I'm the same way. I don't know why it's so
Speaker 1: hard for me. I don't get it. And what the fuck? Yeah,
Speaker 1: if something doesn't make you feel good? I mean besides,
Speaker 1: like you know, there's there are times in life life
Speaker 1: when it is nice to do a favor for someone.
Speaker 1: So so I don't want to say, like, if anything
Speaker 1: that you don't mind doing, just don't sucking do it?
Speaker 1: Like that's not at all what I'm saying. You sound like,
Speaker 1: but yeah, but like you know, but you know the
Speaker 1: difference between a favor and then getting walked all over
Speaker 1: you do yes, and you know what, maybe sometimes if
Speaker 1: you don't. If you're like I m idea, when am
Speaker 1: I doing? Ask yourself? Do I enjoy this? Yes? Or no?
Speaker 1: Why do I enjoy it? Is because it makes the
Speaker 1: other person happy? What are the what are what are
Speaker 1: the repercussions for me? You know, do some little self evaluating?
Speaker 1: Speaking of feeling good, our guest today is I learned
Speaker 1: so much? This is such an informative episode. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: we want to have herund forever. Our guest today is
Speaker 1: a stand up comedian. She's a former porn star, a
Speaker 1: former stripper, a current battles. Motherfucker. I added that part.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the show. Aliyah, Jenny,
Speaker 1: you know I think you got goo to y go
Speaker 1: talk too much. Listen, Star Gainst, don't want stay like
Speaker 1: that talk talk so cool, it's all. Yeah, she's got
Speaker 1: such deep though she goes not down. Okay, we are
Speaker 1: here to have you here. Yeah, so you're you're in
Speaker 1: two of our most favorite industries. Oh yeah, in sex work.
Speaker 1: But I mean, do you do you consider yourself still
Speaker 1: a member of the sex work industry because you're retired
Speaker 1: or were you always feel like a lifelong allegiance to it. Well,
Speaker 1: I kind of never, Like I stopped performing in movies
Speaker 1: and I still have a regular clients Okay, oh clients, Oh,
Speaker 1: like for what custom videos or something for life, like
Speaker 1: like escorts or maybe like sex saragu I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's been like seven years almost. So what's the definition
Speaker 1: of a sex arragon? Surrogate? Is someone that, um they're
Speaker 1: actually like some insurance companies and stuff like that actually
Speaker 1: hire these women to help people, UM, basically with sexual
Speaker 1: dysfunctions and stuff like that. There's a lot of um
Speaker 1: like vets and stuff like that that at PTSD or
Speaker 1: you know, they lose limbs and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: they just lose lose all self esteem. So these people
Speaker 1: go and like basically re teach them how to have
Speaker 1: sex a lot of so that's legal. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of times in certain states and cities and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: It's acts absolutely legal. Insurances sometimes cover it, like certain ones. Obviously.
Speaker 1: Now I don't know, right, because I've always thought of
Speaker 1: myself because I've been technically a sex worker now for
Speaker 1: seventeen years, Like I started out as a stripper and
Speaker 1: stuff like that that I've always going to considered myself
Speaker 1: basically a naked therapist. I really are a naked therapists
Speaker 1: basically because a lot of the times I was like,
Speaker 1: I was never very like I was great at dancing,
Speaker 1: love dancing, hated dealing with just like the typical like
Speaker 1: bachelor parties and stuff like bags. Yeah, I would get
Speaker 1: into a lot of fights, like can you give us
Speaker 1: an example of something shitty if I said you, like,
Speaker 1: I've definitely broken um some noses before. I've definitely one
Speaker 1: dude bit my boob one time when I was like
Speaker 1: going to grab because obviously I got the titties to
Speaker 1: do it out of it and grab the dollar out
Speaker 1: of his mouth, and he bit my boob. So I
Speaker 1: took his head and I pounded it into my chest
Speaker 1: place until I broke Wait he bit your tit and
Speaker 1: you broke his nose? What a bad bitch. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was not happy. Uh did anybody say, Aliah, don't do
Speaker 1: that because I got that a lot. Yeah, No, they're
Speaker 1: going to beat you. Well no, that was the thing,
Speaker 1: like the owner and he was just like, he's like,
Speaker 1: he can't do that. I'm like, what is he gonna do?
Speaker 1: Is he gonna fucking sue me? Like let him see me.
Speaker 1: I'm like, technically, that's not he like, that's assault, that's
Speaker 1: sexual harassment, that's sexual It's like there's so many things.
Speaker 1: Because he even said, I'm like do it. I fucking
Speaker 1: dare you? Because at the time I was going to
Speaker 1: school to be a cop, so I was like super
Speaker 1: big on like laws and ship. Oh my god, Wow,
Speaker 1: you have such an interesting you are the most interesting person.
Speaker 1: And with the sex surregacy, I'm curious. So you've had
Speaker 1: clients that your job, the service you're providing specifically is sex,
Speaker 1: like teaching them how to basically like um, not not
Speaker 1: so much that, it's more like emotional kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Like some some of the dudes were like married and
Speaker 1: just had super shitty relationships with their wives, and so
Speaker 1: a lot of times they just need someone to like
Speaker 1: listen to yeah, and stuff like that, And I'm a
Speaker 1: great listener and being understanding. Yeah, that's why I'm I've
Speaker 1: always been supportive of We've always been supportive of sex work,
Speaker 1: but like specifically prostitution or whatever whatever the word that
Speaker 1: is the best of all It is, like that can
Speaker 1: be so healthy for people and they just need somebody
Speaker 1: to not judge them for it so much. Oh well,
Speaker 1: I mean that's what we're good at, is judge. That's
Speaker 1: the comedy side to you. It's got to be tricky
Speaker 1: to be a comedian and then not be able to
Speaker 1: like somebody. There's some things that are like I do
Speaker 1: have like a lot of like rape jokes and like
Speaker 1: like you know and stuff like that, and people like
Speaker 1: I get like sometimes questioned as to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: like why do you talk about I'm like because it
Speaker 1: was funny, like you laughed, right, and they're like yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm like Okay, then that's all that really needs to
Speaker 1: be explained about it. I hate happy to explain jokes.
Speaker 1: I know. It's just like whenever you're thinking about it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, there are I think a lot of rape
Speaker 1: jokes exist because people are so constantly thinking about rape.
Speaker 1: It's confusing, it's scary. I mean, for a long time
Speaker 1: it was my biggest fear. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah, every
Speaker 1: woman has. Like I opened up sometimes, especially if there's
Speaker 1: like a lot of men in the audience, I'm just like, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: there's a lot going on in the world right now.
Speaker 1: Did any if you wake up this morning be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm probably a rapist? Yeah? Yeah. I sometimes I ask
Speaker 1: crowds and like, are any guys here nervous? Like how nervous?
Speaker 1: Are you nervous? You should be nervous if didn't do anything? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then I talk about like Weinstein and like all
Speaker 1: of those dudes, like I have like two explanations for that.
Speaker 1: One that men um are cheap as funk, that they
Speaker 1: should just pay women instead. That's a good one. And
Speaker 1: then people like Louis e k and like is He's
Speaker 1: like still don't know how to make a woman come,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, oh yeah, like that because a lot
Speaker 1: of that does have to do with that, and that
Speaker 1: I feel like when a guy has an issue with
Speaker 1: that and he's and he and he's not the kind
Speaker 1: of person that would deal with it outwardly like talk
Speaker 1: about it and talk to their partner, talked to a
Speaker 1: sex worker about it. They're just gonna harbor and it's
Speaker 1: going to service in the ugliest way. Yeah, it's not pretty.
Speaker 1: So what what? What? Okay? I want to start at
Speaker 1: the beginning, it was such a crazy interesting career. So
Speaker 1: you were studying to be a cop and then also stripping. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and well I made seper cops school somehow, Okay, so
Speaker 1: stripping paid for cops school. Yeah. The people you were
Speaker 1: in cop school with, you know that you were stripping
Speaker 1: on the side two people because I danced outside of
Speaker 1: and like when I first started going to school, I
Speaker 1: was in like a super serious relationship and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, funk, I need money, So let
Speaker 1: me go back to what I know that that could
Speaker 1: pay for the lifestyle that I became acquainted to. And um,
Speaker 1: so like the other dude, like I was Dave a guy,
Speaker 1: and then our other friends like they knew and I
Speaker 1: went and dance like an hour at this it was
Speaker 1: called Texas Jay's just a little ship hole. But I
Speaker 1: made like a bunch of money, like to three dollars
Speaker 1: a night every time I worked. And at that time,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, cool hour, no no, no for a night,
Speaker 1: like for that area. I'm like that was good enough,
Speaker 1: good yeah, three bucks a Night's great for that. And
Speaker 1: then like to be and then I went to a
Speaker 1: couple of different ship clubs and then um, I stopped
Speaker 1: going to school, Like I was certified for law enforcement,
Speaker 1: Like I went through all the training. I was pepper sprayed.
Speaker 1: I liked it. Fire arms, well, I prepper sprayed in
Speaker 1: the face. Yeah yeah. And then we have to do
Speaker 1: like a semi nition like training thing where like this dude,
Speaker 1: like we're trying to apprehend this dude and then he
Speaker 1: pepper sprays us, and then we still have to apprehend
Speaker 1: this dude and like call for backup and ship and
Speaker 1: they videotape it like we watched it all the time,
Speaker 1: kind of prepare yourself to be pepper like mentally or
Speaker 1: was like it's gonna hurt, doesn't hurt, that's pretty fucking
Speaker 1: bat Like I did. I did great out of like
Speaker 1: our whole class, except for the fact because like we
Speaker 1: have um like a rubber um walkie talking like rubber gun.
Speaker 1: I confused the walkie talking and think that they're almost
Speaker 1: shape the same, like the backup and you're shooting a
Speaker 1: burden and it was like because they were shape the same,
Speaker 1: and it was like they made us put it in
Speaker 1: the same pocket and stuff like that because it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like a good plan. Well, the like a lot
Speaker 1: of the training that cops do is like we're supposed
Speaker 1: to funk up because we're supposed to learn from our missistics. Basically, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like I learned the hard way that when you shoot
Speaker 1: your instructor in the head with the paintball, uh, you're
Speaker 1: fucked for the rest of the year. Yeah, because then
Speaker 1: he wasn't wearing his helmet, so that was also so
Speaker 1: it's just yeah, well, yeah, messing up is the best
Speaker 1: way to learn and so yeah, and then we keep
Speaker 1: doing it and doing it until we do it right.
Speaker 1: So it's like muscle memory is a lot of the
Speaker 1: stuff that they trained cops to do, so we do
Speaker 1: is just repeating, like cleaning your gun anytime, like um backfires,
Speaker 1: different ways that guns backfire and like malfunction and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. We like purposely make it look like that
Speaker 1: and then just keep doing it over and over like
Speaker 1: we would do it for hour. Wow do they I've
Speaker 1: read about this, but I'm curious. Did they give i
Speaker 1: Q tests? None that I know, I mean along the
Speaker 1: line I read about that and maybe yeah, maybe for
Speaker 1: like I mean, you do have to a lieutenant. I'm
Speaker 1: going to ask him because he, I mean, he's very
Speaker 1: smart and so I'm guessing that was not a coincidence. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, because they have like the test to
Speaker 1: like become sergeants and lieutenants are insane and like to
Speaker 1: even be a basic cop, like you have to have
Speaker 1: like at least Wisconsin, I think it's sixty college credit.
Speaker 1: So I when I left school, I had sixty three.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, funk it, I have my degree because
Speaker 1: it was like an English class or something stupid. I'm
Speaker 1: like I could write like done, I graduated. I've been
Speaker 1: telling people I still graduated. Fuck it. And this is
Speaker 1: a little off topic, but as far as like like fear,
Speaker 1: so like you know, with all the shootings that people
Speaker 1: are like, well, you shouldn't have shot you were shot
Speaker 1: too many times, and it was that of fear or
Speaker 1: shoot him in the fucking leg. Do they teach you
Speaker 1: how how to like yeah, like feel fear better? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of it because our instructors are looking
Speaker 1: scary too when they're coming at us, because that's who
Speaker 1: like the bad guys are in a lot of these things.
Speaker 1: And especially with all all the shootings and all the
Speaker 1: African American men getting shot and stuff like that and
Speaker 1: basically like just murdered. Like the training that I had
Speaker 1: was to not do that. Like the level of that good,
Speaker 1: Like the level of force, like shooting someone is literally
Speaker 1: the last the last you gotten tasers, there are some
Speaker 1: and like they teach us how to fight. I love
Speaker 1: to fight, like and I'm like I'll fucking wrestle with
Speaker 1: somebody like fun, you know what I mean. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they give us all these these other tools, like batons,
Speaker 1: like all these other things. Fucking a rubber walkie talking
Speaker 1: you could be to do a ton hurt. Yeah, oh god,
Speaker 1: I just had to bruise it all over my legs
Speaker 1: and because I have double jointed elbows, they couldn't get
Speaker 1: it out of my hand. Because they teach you how
Speaker 1: to like rip it out of someone's hand if someone
Speaker 1: grabs it, and they couldn't do it with me because
Speaker 1: I have double jointed elbows. So they were just oh
Speaker 1: my god, yeah, damn me, I don't miss that. And
Speaker 1: then while you were while you were stripping, how long
Speaker 1: was that? Oh? Um? Well, I danced for about a
Speaker 1: year and a half before I met um the dude,
Speaker 1: and then we were together about three years and that
Speaker 1: was probably about like a year and a half. Two
Speaker 1: years after we broke up that I went back to dancing.
Speaker 1: Um maybe like six and then um from from that
Speaker 1: aged to thirty and that's when I moved to Florida
Speaker 1: to start training to be a feature dancer. Um, where
Speaker 1: do you get like paid to go to clubs where
Speaker 1: you're not a house girl anymore at the table? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the big fancy outfits and stuff like that. That's
Speaker 1: what I wanted to do when I first started dancing,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, funk this house girl. Ship, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not paying for people because you have to pay a
Speaker 1: house fee and ship like that. I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 1: paying three do you have to pay strip because we're
Speaker 1: independent contractors renting the stage. It's like if you go
Speaker 1: to work at a salon as a hair stylist or
Speaker 1: that kind of writing. Now at the chair. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: did you get along with the other strippers? I always
Speaker 1: have this vision in my head of like, oh, they're
Speaker 1: just like in the green room, like shooting the ship
Speaker 1: talking about boys. Yeah, a lot of. I mean like
Speaker 1: in bigger clubs, like you have your clicks and stuff
Speaker 1: like that, but in the smaller clubs. Yeah. Actually, one
Speaker 1: of my girlfriends Ashley, that I used to work with, um,
Speaker 1: she's coming to visit me in New York, her first
Speaker 1: trip to New York in tune when I graduate. So
Speaker 1: um yeah, still totally friends with like a big part,
Speaker 1: like a group of them for sure. Yeah, some of them.
Speaker 1: My best friend Stephanie I met when I first started dancing,
Speaker 1: and we've been best friends for like almost like fifteen years. Now,
Speaker 1: did you ever get fingered? But but like you know,
Speaker 1: because yet No, No, I definitely picked up because I
Speaker 1: always wonder how far can they can can we go?
Speaker 1: I mean we could go kind of fire depending on
Speaker 1: the club. Yeah. I want to say out of out
Speaker 1: of the all the years that I danced, maybe like
Speaker 1: five or six dudes I picked up like I'm selected
Speaker 1: and what what else? Like what other do you have
Speaker 1: any other horror story like that fucking tip biter? What
Speaker 1: it did well? That one? Oh? Um, when I went
Speaker 1: to dance in Florida for the first time, because there's
Speaker 1: like laws are different in each state and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So Wisconsin at certain clubs, like you have to like
Speaker 1: stand on a stool and you have to be like
Speaker 1: three feet away. Yeah yeah, um, Texas James's were we
Speaker 1: also had to wear belly bracelets. I don't want to
Speaker 1: get into, like so many of the laws are weird,
Speaker 1: and then other places like there was context yeah, because
Speaker 1: we had to have our um, we had to have
Speaker 1: our stomachs covered, so a belly chain was the loophole.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like before we used to have to cover
Speaker 1: our nipples. We USA have to cover our nipples with
Speaker 1: like band aids, band aids. The first time I ever danced,
Speaker 1: it was eighteen. It was Ricky's on State and we
Speaker 1: had to wear like nylons. Um, we had to wear
Speaker 1: underwear nylons and then impair like booty shorts like hooters.
Speaker 1: Yeah basically and then like cover our nipples and then
Speaker 1: that was how um that was that was a stripper,
Speaker 1: and then the law start changed and then we just
Speaker 1: wore a liquid latex because we had to have our
Speaker 1: nipples covered because women lactate, you know, all women, all
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna it was a spill milk, sport, milk,
Speaker 1: everywhe Yeah. So is that the real reason for like
Speaker 1: the fear of nipples in society lactation? I mean, at
Speaker 1: least in Wisconsin for that law. Yeah. Like so like cleanliness,
Speaker 1: it was mainly um to block and that like a
Speaker 1: visual thing. Like the law was written very weird because
Speaker 1: like the latex flue that people use for pasties, we
Speaker 1: wouldn't use pasties. We would just put the glue on
Speaker 1: and then put like blush or something like that, and
Speaker 1: then like throughout the night you're like rubbing and ship.
Speaker 1: It's just like this weird rubber ship. And then like
Speaker 1: because you kept putting it on and like you would
Speaker 1: lose color in your nipples. Yes, oh god, it was horrible.
Speaker 1: So a lot of times I would just put hairspray
Speaker 1: because it was shiny, because the shiny part or like
Speaker 1: just a relation show. Yeah, and they probably would. God,
Speaker 1: I hope no one actually did have to breastfeed their
Speaker 1: child after because like maybe poisoning their baby ship splitter
Speaker 1: for life now because but any other horse don't like Yeah.
Speaker 1: So so when I went to Florida, they have different
Speaker 1: They're allowed to like full on touch you. They're like
Speaker 1: titties and on desk. Well they're supposed to, but in
Speaker 1: this particular club, like I didn't know. I was there
Speaker 1: for a bike week. I used to travel around with
Speaker 1: a lot of bike weeks and stuff like that. And um,
Speaker 1: I was given a guy a lap dance and I
Speaker 1: was um, I was sitting on him like he was
Speaker 1: saying down on my back to him, and he went
Speaker 1: full on in front and grabbed my boobs. So I
Speaker 1: elbowed him like eight times, then went up and then
Speaker 1: that I broke his nose doing that, And and then
Speaker 1: the security guard comes in and rips me off, and
Speaker 1: he's like what the funk and like shakes me, and
Speaker 1: I'm ready to hit him, like I have a fun
Speaker 1: and like, what the funk are you doing? I'm like,
Speaker 1: he just grabbed me. He's like, they're allowed to fucking
Speaker 1: touch you. I'm like, they're not allowed to fucking touch me,
Speaker 1: not for twenty Yeah, where is this in the rules?
Speaker 1: There's no rules. He's like, oh, you're not from motherfucker?
Speaker 1: Do I sound like I'm from here? Oh god yeah no,
Speaker 1: so um, I like fucking my cousin now. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: lasted a whole two hours in that club before I
Speaker 1: got fired. I'm surprised you lasted two hours. I would
Speaker 1: have been like it was well, I was getting drunk,
Speaker 1: so that was super fun. Well, I mean because it
Speaker 1: was bike weaken, Like, I know a lot of like
Speaker 1: dudes that, like, I grew up around biker so I
Speaker 1: just knew a lot of dudes and stuff. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get wasted if I'm like, oh shoot, I'm here
Speaker 1: to make money, so like, let me go get a
Speaker 1: let dance quick, and then come back and do and
Speaker 1: do more shots because that's what I did. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So we ended up having to go to a different
Speaker 1: strip club. You know, I just gave up working. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I probably plenty in Florida. Yeah, I literally, well yeah
Speaker 1: in that area. I gave up working that week. In general,
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck it, this is not worth it. Not
Speaker 1: worth it. I mean money like doing like selling shots
Speaker 1: and ship like that. There's probably noses. Did you break
Speaker 1: to Okay? Yeah, just those two my favorite two, more
Speaker 1: than I've broke. How do you break the nose? I
Speaker 1: mean there's so many different ways because of the way
Speaker 1: that I went up, Like I actually could have killed
Speaker 1: him because like because there's a certain way, like you
Speaker 1: could palm someone, like if you hit it, if you
Speaker 1: hit the nose far and deep enough, like you can
Speaker 1: you can kill them. Really, Yeah, did you take self
Speaker 1: defense classes? You learn this from the police? Yeah? That,
Speaker 1: and my dad was a marine, so I learned how
Speaker 1: to kill people with my bare hands up five. Wait,
Speaker 1: that's a fun way to grow up. A lot of
Speaker 1: useful skills, I gotta say. Well, I mean because yeah,
Speaker 1: severe PTSD manic depressant by polar and uh I had this, Yes,
Speaker 1: And we grew up on like I grew up on
Speaker 1: war movies. And it's just like like my my sex
Speaker 1: talk was basically, you guys are gonna want to fuck
Speaker 1: you and you're not gonna want to suck them. So
Speaker 1: this is what you do, insightful dad, This is what
Speaker 1: you do if anyone tries to funk with you and
Speaker 1: you don't want them too. So like you taught me
Speaker 1: how to like snap next and like wire cars and
Speaker 1: break into houses like that. Where does the breaking into
Speaker 1: houses come in with the no sex shelter stick out?
Speaker 1: You got to go on the house. It would just
Speaker 1: be like some random time, like getting gas or something
Speaker 1: like that. He's like, Okay, Lee, if you ever need
Speaker 1: to break a window, you take duct duct tape and
Speaker 1: you put it on the window and then you tap
Speaker 1: it so that way the glass doesn't chatter on the floor.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. The same as when you nail into
Speaker 1: like a wall, you have to put tape on so
Speaker 1: it doesn't split. The same concept. Yeah, that's amazing. So
Speaker 1: you're like assaultable. Well, I wouldn't say yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's definitely happened, but I definitely still it has happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely know how to get out of it. And
Speaker 1: so it's like a lot of times too. I remember
Speaker 1: one time that when I lived in North Hollywood and
Speaker 1: like my little convenience store of Bodega was like three
Speaker 1: blocks down from my house. I would walk there all
Speaker 1: the time. I went there. There was this weird little
Speaker 1: dude and all of a sudden, you start following me around,
Speaker 1: and like, I know the guy because I'm there all
Speaker 1: the time. Because I smoked I'm there like every other day,
Speaker 1: and he just kind of looked at me, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I walked out, and then that dude
Speaker 1: walked out and I started walking, and I knows who
Speaker 1: was following me, So I like obviously wasn't going to
Speaker 1: go the way that I wasn't going to go to
Speaker 1: my house. But I stopped like halfway and I just
Speaker 1: turned around. I'm like, can I help you. I'm like,
Speaker 1: because if you're gonna try anything, I suggest you do
Speaker 1: it now when I'm facing you, because I like, I
Speaker 1: face a lot of guys like that because a lot
Speaker 1: of times they get off on the fear, and so
Speaker 1: if you're not afraid, then they kind of get turned off.
Speaker 1: Wow or something that I was trying to rape, Well,
Speaker 1: he's definitely not up to good something. It was something
Speaker 1: weird following. Yeah, No, it was definitely not good feelings
Speaker 1: and like I've I've done that. Turned around and it
Speaker 1: dudes like, I don't know what you're talking about. I'm like, sorry,
Speaker 1: my bad. Well, but he's her to trust your instinct.
Speaker 1: I was just reading an article about how like there's
Speaker 1: a crazy high percentage of people who bad things have
Speaker 1: happened to as far as relating to another person, Uh,
Speaker 1: like of them had a gut feeling that they did
Speaker 1: not follow. It's very rare that something bad happens to
Speaker 1: you and you don't have like a little bit of
Speaker 1: like like your flight or something in you beforehand. And
Speaker 1: I think just women are so are so used to
Speaker 1: be like told being told we're crazy or we're overreacting,
Speaker 1: and we're like, oh no, it's probably nothing where we're
Speaker 1: so like we don't hurt anyone's feelings. Yea, you know that,
Speaker 1: you know. I'm just like, it's better to be safe
Speaker 1: than sorry. Yeah, I'd rather be an asshole or the
Speaker 1: crazy bitch saying the bitch that just got rape. That's
Speaker 1: a bumper sticker. So what would you say? Or like,
Speaker 1: what's the most basic or helpful self defense move? Um? Palm?
Speaker 1: The palming is always good because it's stronger. A lot
Speaker 1: of women don't know how to hit, you know, they
Speaker 1: always want to turn their fists once actually like straightforward
Speaker 1: like this, you don't want to sorry people that can't down, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but palm is always good because it is harder and
Speaker 1: you can have more force with that if if you're
Speaker 1: not good. You're not if you don't have a lot
Speaker 1: of upper body strength. I'm good at um. I like
Speaker 1: doing the finger to the throat thing, oh in between
Speaker 1: the clayeah. I bet you also be careful because you
Speaker 1: could kill somebody that way if you're trying to you.
Speaker 1: But the self defense laws in New York are super
Speaker 1: not really victim like sab like like a lot of times. Um, Like,
Speaker 1: I've taken one self defense class here in the city
Speaker 1: and the guys like I taught this woman like how
Speaker 1: to use an umbrella basically um as a weapon, and
Speaker 1: she used it and like she broke the dude's nose
Speaker 1: and the cops ended up arresting her and he could
Speaker 1: press charges against her. But what did the guy do
Speaker 1: to her to get her? He was trying to Um,
Speaker 1: he's trying to Robert, He's trying to take her back.
Speaker 1: What the fuck? Yeah, well that's the New York law.
Speaker 1: So it's the same as like when like the like
Speaker 1: the burglar like fell through like the window onto the
Speaker 1: knife kind of thing. There are a lot of laws
Speaker 1: that are real fucked up, and you don't know until
Speaker 1: it happen. Until it happened. So yeah, so anytime and
Speaker 1: I thought about that because a lot of my one
Speaker 1: of my friends, UM, he told me, he's like, I
Speaker 1: know you like to fight and like defend itself. Just
Speaker 1: be careful because you could go to jail. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'll fucking go to jail. Like I am like that
Speaker 1: type of woman would be like, fuck it, put me
Speaker 1: in jail. Have you to jail? Who knock? Baby? Like
Speaker 1: the only time I've ever been taken into custody and
Speaker 1: I used that term very loosely. Um, I'm also a
Speaker 1: white woman, so let's just make that perfect to um.
Speaker 1: The only time I've ever been taken in is for
Speaker 1: U two unpaid parking tickets totally forty dollars, which suspending
Speaker 1: my license plate that I didn't know about because I
Speaker 1: had moved and I never got the letter. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: and and so and because like I blew, Um, I
Speaker 1: think I blew like a point oh three or something
Speaker 1: like that. They're I mean I had been drinking for
Speaker 1: twelve hours, Like I could beat breathalyzers. It's a special
Speaker 1: skill that I had. Oh wow, damn, you're so good
Speaker 1: at everything. You could be naked and alone in the
Speaker 1: woods and be dropped off by hellicapter really figure it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I actually like I used to do that
Speaker 1: when we were younger. Our dad used to like, we
Speaker 1: used to do fun stuff like that. Yeah, he was
Speaker 1: a Marina and he was crazy. Of course he taught
Speaker 1: us how to do like Bible skills that a movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: speaking of sucked up laws, assess the bullshit. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: we we broke it down briefly a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: But I said, I I think if we want to
Speaker 1: dive a little bit deep. Got signed, it, got signed,
Speaker 1: oh yeah yeah. But which was weird to me because
Speaker 1: when the when the House and sent it like signed it,
Speaker 1: like they sat on it because Trump went to Florida
Speaker 1: to go golfing, so he wasn't working, and then they
Speaker 1: gave it to him on the third and then at
Speaker 1: that day he has ten days to sign it. Otherwise
Speaker 1: it's considered a pocket veto. But they sat on it
Speaker 1: for like fifteen days, and I'm like, how that league
Speaker 1: so fuck up because they knew Yeah, well they're like,
Speaker 1: well he's he's going to Florida and like going to
Speaker 1: bomb Syria. So we're like we're just gonna wait on
Speaker 1: the horror bill, you know, what I mean, like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, yeah, horse can wait. We got away to
Speaker 1: kill some people in a country that we won't let
Speaker 1: anybody in. We got a bomb people to tell them
Speaker 1: not to bomb people, because that's that. And I know, like, um,
Speaker 1: when we talked about this in an intro a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. But you know, whenever sex workers are like,
Speaker 1: hey guys, this bill is fucking bullshit, they're always right.
Speaker 1: I mean, because it's like I don't like the condom
Speaker 1: law with the porn thing. I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: it makes sense that you want to. But then when
Speaker 1: when somebody broke it down for me and I realized, okay,
Speaker 1: that is a violation of your rights and you really,
Speaker 1: like the average person would think, yeah, that's a good thing.
Speaker 1: So the tess to bill, could you explain what it is,
Speaker 1: what it does, and the repercussions of it for all
Speaker 1: these sex workers. Okay, So what it is? Is it
Speaker 1: Anti sex Trafficking UM bill. Basically UM. They're they're targeting
Speaker 1: specific sites that UM escorts use UM to advertise on
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, like websites like back page and
Speaker 1: humanoplex Um. Euros Um is another big one because they
Speaker 1: have found a couple random apparently like um sex traffic
Speaker 1: for for children. Well, like the apparently Oh well, the
Speaker 1: thing is when when it comes with this, is that
Speaker 1: like the amount of actual sex trafficking, like human sex
Speaker 1: trafficking on these types of sites is like nothing. It's
Speaker 1: all on the dark Web. It's like the ninety percent
Speaker 1: of the dark Web is all fucking sex, child porn,
Speaker 1: sex trafficks. It's the dark Web. You would think they
Speaker 1: would make that illegal or killing. Well, the government created
Speaker 1: it to spy on criminals, and so of course we're
Speaker 1: not going to go, oh yeah, I did a whole
Speaker 1: like big thing on it because of the pedophilia, Like
Speaker 1: I did a thing on my podcast hormones up out
Speaker 1: pedophilia and stuff like that. It's a mental illness and yeah,
Speaker 1: and all this other stuff. Well and then also, I mean,
Speaker 1: people high up in the government don't want child sex
Speaker 1: traveing to stop because a lot of them are involved
Speaker 1: in it. In my opinion, Yeah, there's definitely someone as
Speaker 1: someone who's who's in the sex industry. I definitely know
Speaker 1: that so many politicians have have or had or will
Speaker 1: sleep with escorts. Like it's have you ever slept with
Speaker 1: the politician. Yeah, oh yeah, but you don't say, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: definitely legal one that's known or any that people know,
Speaker 1: well senators, congress people, Yeah no, I'm not gonna even yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so but okay, but then it's like, you know, if
Speaker 1: they just were open about it, obviously it's illegal, so
Speaker 1: that's why they're not. But also they would in any way,
Speaker 1: Like it's not it's just it's just a law to
Speaker 1: make people think that the government is actually doing something
Speaker 1: when they're not. And so what this does, like backpages
Speaker 1: already down that guy um is a ready getting sued
Speaker 1: for a bunch of stuff, prostitution, money laund range, all
Speaker 1: of this other stuff. A bunch of other websites like Craigslist,
Speaker 1: Um they're Adults Section or whatever. Gone Um a lot,
Speaker 1: like I'm not sure if misconnections or like any of
Speaker 1: the dating but whatever, all those are gone now. So
Speaker 1: even people that were using that to like for random
Speaker 1: hookups no longer. Um websites like Twitter, Facebook, a normal
Speaker 1: regular people that like to send their boyfriend girlfriends like
Speaker 1: tip pics and dick pics, Uh, no longer because now
Speaker 1: those websites, because there's a lot I think it was
Speaker 1: like c D something c D A M was a
Speaker 1: lot where it protected the websites from the content that
Speaker 1: people put on it. So it's that's what a tube
Speaker 1: site kind of is. It's like it's protected underneath the
Speaker 1: law for the content that people put on it. Um
Speaker 1: Now that protection is gone, so now websites can be
Speaker 1: sued and are liable now for the content that certain
Speaker 1: people are putting on it. So like a lot of
Speaker 1: these forums, uh, women just got arrested using seeking arrangements
Speaker 1: um as as far so a lot of these women
Speaker 1: the woman got arrested, not the guy. Well the guy
Speaker 1: was it was a place. So I wonder if do
Speaker 1: you think do you think that we'll have FBI plants
Speaker 1: that are posing as sex workers to meet the men
Speaker 1: and to arrest the men. Dunn maybe, but that's like
Speaker 1: they don't really do that. A lot of seeking arrangements
Speaker 1: is for rich, rich people, like the Sugar Daddy website,
Speaker 1: politicians like that. Yeah, like a lot of that, you know,
Speaker 1: a yeah, but even regular people are affected by this.
Speaker 1: They don't even realize it. Like a huge part of
Speaker 1: our sexual freedom was just taken away online, Like everyone, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that. That's I mean, I also would
Speaker 1: advise against sending on Twitter and Facebook just for security.
Speaker 1: These only moments before all that ships going like, I
Speaker 1: don't think bad you want to say saa text. So
Speaker 1: I've received like I've received dick pis via Instagram from people,
Speaker 1: like one year on the podcast for my birthday, we
Speaker 1: were like, I've never gotten dick picks. Send me, and
Speaker 1: a couple of people like here. You know, I'm like, okay, thanks,
Speaker 1: is that? Who's that? Who? Well? Depending because they do
Speaker 1: look at that, I mean Instagram. Um, let's say the
Speaker 1: government looks and they're like, oh, she's soliciting for dick pick.
Speaker 1: I mean technically did well, but I did it a
Speaker 1: while ago. Preus not send me naked photos anybody, because
Speaker 1: that's technically a format. I can text somebody a naked
Speaker 1: photo or ask somebody. Yeah yeah, texting is fine, but
Speaker 1: it's like using these different websites, so like like Skype,
Speaker 1: Like I used to have Skype dates with one of
Speaker 1: my dudes in California like all the time, and like
Speaker 1: so no longer because that because that's like a form
Speaker 1: of webcam you would have to face time. So waiter,
Speaker 1: all the webcam sites shut down that's an excellent question.
Speaker 1: They don't really know what they're going to happen with
Speaker 1: a lot of these sites, because what's happening now is
Speaker 1: that a lot of these these women that use these
Speaker 1: sites are now like getting pushed back to street walking
Speaker 1: a lot of times, or they trying these other dangerous
Speaker 1: which is super dangerous. And like the amount of women
Speaker 1: that are murdered, you know, amount of women like they
Speaker 1: there's like a brief like kind of half as study
Speaker 1: where something I read on Huffington Post where like some
Speaker 1: seventeen percent or murders against women stopped when these websites happen.
Speaker 1: That sex made sex work available. I'm reading that going
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense because that's street walking.
Speaker 1: So I briefly before we sat down, I saw a
Speaker 1: new article about SASA where it's particularly dangerous for trans
Speaker 1: sex workers. Is that because when they're street walking and
Speaker 1: they don't realize that maybe it's someone who presents as
Speaker 1: a woman but still has a penis. Is that why? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That and and like being confused, you know, because guys
Speaker 1: that pick up a lot of trans women, then that
Speaker 1: confuses their their sexuality even if they wanted to have
Speaker 1: sex with the trans sex work or trans female sex worker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they still have the possibility of reacting like that because
Speaker 1: once you get off, yeah, your brain and oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's happened before after you know. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's super scary for a lot of like almost
Speaker 1: I want to say, I don't want to say more,
Speaker 1: but it could be more, especially like any any minority
Speaker 1: really because a lot of times they are forced to
Speaker 1: go to more shitty neighborhoods. You know, Like I worked
Speaker 1: with a pimp for a while, Like I've done like
Speaker 1: I've done it all, Like when it came to sex work,
Speaker 1: like I'm I dove in and I'm like, let me
Speaker 1: see what all of this is about, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like I really went into it and like
Speaker 1: I had I mean it was like a week. So
Speaker 1: so what was your experience even for a week working
Speaker 1: with a pimp? Oh god, I mean it was entered,
Speaker 1: Like we smoked a lot of pot and we drove
Speaker 1: around a lot um. So he was like, hey, I
Speaker 1: gotta yea but yeah, yeah, like the first time I
Speaker 1: worked with a pimp. Um. I love that sentence. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you're the best. That when I was still at well,
Speaker 1: like I didn't technically work this before. Like I was
Speaker 1: just like really curious about sex work when I lived
Speaker 1: in Wisconsin. I think I was like I was like
Speaker 1: twenty or whatever, but it always like really fascinated me
Speaker 1: and me and my girlfriends, Like we used to put
Speaker 1: out ads in newspapers about massages and then like invite
Speaker 1: guys to these hotel They thought that they were getting sex,
Speaker 1: but we would actually just give the massages. But I
Speaker 1: did give one. You really would give them, yeah, you're like,
Speaker 1: I said, massage. Yeah, no, totally. Like would rip off
Speaker 1: a bunch of dudes when I was twenty like that,
Speaker 1: except for one dude. I used to give him hand
Speaker 1: jobs because like for some reason, it just churned me
Speaker 1: on so much and I'm like, oh my god, like
Speaker 1: why do I like this? So whatever. So that was
Speaker 1: something because like every because I grew up Catholic, you know,
Speaker 1: and like just everyone's very judgmental in Wisconsin when it
Speaker 1: comes with sex, like you get married, you have kids,
Speaker 1: that's it, you know, anal you know, it was just
Speaker 1: no anal, no fun kind of thing. So I still
Speaker 1: had that that stigma stuff was another bumper sticker. So
Speaker 1: when I moved to Florida. That was like, I can
Speaker 1: finally be a whore. It could Florida. I mean, what
Speaker 1: a place to start. Good place. So so, um, what
Speaker 1: other ways is? Like I thought the back page age
Speaker 1: seemed to get shut down before Trump signed the ship
Speaker 1: in the law. How is that legal? Oh? Well, because
Speaker 1: they already had a bunch of shipped on the guy
Speaker 1: but that was the site that there. That was kind
Speaker 1: of the reason why they made this law and all
Speaker 1: this other stuff was because of that, So they already
Speaker 1: had it already. Wow. Is there any relationship to human
Speaker 1: trafficking and sex work or and like or what is?
Speaker 1: Do you have an opinion on completely different things sex
Speaker 1: or consensual? No? No, no, I mean like no, I know,
Speaker 1: by definition or something in common. But as far as
Speaker 1: like the way that sex workers, um like use the
Speaker 1: internet to get clients or anything like, is there any
Speaker 1: ways that they interlined and and and if not, like,
Speaker 1: do you have any suggestions about like a like a
Speaker 1: sex trafficking law that would actually be great, um in
Speaker 1: that it would stop sex trafficking but not harm sex workers.
Speaker 1: I know that's what you probably You know, lots of
Speaker 1: airport has a lot of signs in the female bathrooms like, hey,
Speaker 1: getting trafficked call so remember yeah, I mean, and not
Speaker 1: a lot of times, like it's not necessarily only sex trafficking.
Speaker 1: It's like like they may labor and stuff like that too,
Speaker 1: but sex trafficking automatically, people's brains are like, this is
Speaker 1: the worst thing, and it is. I get it, um.
Speaker 1: I don't like. The thing that I think that a
Speaker 1: lot of sex workers may need to do now is
Speaker 1: like find like bookers. Like I always had a booker.
Speaker 1: I mean, granted I was a porn star, so I
Speaker 1: had access to people that have large client lists that
Speaker 1: don't need to use those types of sites. A lot
Speaker 1: of times they would though, Like for advertising, I never
Speaker 1: really advertised at all. I never really let anyone advertise.
Speaker 1: You have to because definitely, I mean, it did, it
Speaker 1: did hurt a little bit, But I also just didn't
Speaker 1: want it out there because I'm like, yeah, family and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, like they know, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just don't want to have to hear
Speaker 1: about it. And then because I also knew that I
Speaker 1: wanted to get into other stuff and just having all
Speaker 1: that ship on the internet, I'm like makes it more difficult.
Speaker 1: It makes it a little more difficult even. Oh, like,
Speaker 1: I don't give a funk, but I'm like other people
Speaker 1: definitely give a fun. Have you had fights? Are conversations
Speaker 1: with frustrated family members? No? No, maybe like some of
Speaker 1: the older ones, like my great grandfather, he doesn't. Is
Speaker 1: he's alive? Yeah, yeah, ship like the last one. I
Speaker 1: don't have any grandparents that really. He's like nineties six,
Speaker 1: damn something like that? Is he? Like? Please? I don't
Speaker 1: think he actually knows. Yeah, oh good, like, but I
Speaker 1: think like it this weird thing. And I'm not sure
Speaker 1: if he knows, but I think he may not. I
Speaker 1: don't know. He he acts very weird around me. He's
Speaker 1: nineties six, so he definitely doesn't like my tattoos, I
Speaker 1: know that for sure, and definitely thinks my boobs are
Speaker 1: too big, and I'm like, well I can't, that's not
Speaker 1: his concern. Yeah, weird. My uncle, like everyone's actually always
Speaker 1: was really supportive. They're just like, Okay, well you're weird.
Speaker 1: But if this is what you mean, if you want
Speaker 1: to do what, you're gonna do it anyway, so fucking
Speaker 1: just do it now? Did um being in sex work
Speaker 1: all this time. Did it ever make you tired of sex? Um,
Speaker 1: not necessarily sex, but um people. Yeah, because so much
Speaker 1: of sex work seems like it's just like being nice
Speaker 1: to people who are draining your energy. So yeah, that's
Speaker 1: more draining, like the sex part, Like at least I
Speaker 1: could get off and then like that gives me something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because sometimes someone dudes can be real depressing because the
Speaker 1: guys like, yeah, it's very Um, it's always been more
Speaker 1: emotionally draining. Yeah, there are sometimes one it can be
Speaker 1: like if you have a busy week, but a lot
Speaker 1: of times like that was more when I worked imporn,
Speaker 1: because that's like you're sucking for hours and like it's hard,
Speaker 1: you know. Oh yeah, Vagina, just go enough, I'm done.
Speaker 1: Sometimes gin will quit before your heart will. It's been
Speaker 1: a couple of scenes where I'm like, Jesus fucking correct,
Speaker 1: poor girl. I'm like, I'm gonna need to take it
Speaker 1: day or two off, thank you, which is all oh
Speaker 1: my god. And then when you got your period, would
Speaker 1: you just put a sponge up there? Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you take the makeup sponges, which is great for for
Speaker 1: regular sex too. I highly recommend it. You can do
Speaker 1: it for for regular people afterward. Yeah, yeah, like what
Speaker 1: you just insert it like a yeah, well well yeah.
Speaker 1: You you take like a makeup sponge, non latex like
Speaker 1: like latex free. You you get it wet, you squeeze
Speaker 1: it out, and you stick it in there, and then
Speaker 1: at the end of the scene you have the male
Speaker 1: talent pull it out for you. The mail pulls out
Speaker 1: your period. Makeup sponge was one scene that I did.
Speaker 1: I was bleeding so heavily. I was working with Jason
Speaker 1: Brown and I had like four in there and he's
Speaker 1: got like a ten eleven inch cock. What's how thick
Speaker 1: is it? It was actually like a normal like where
Speaker 1: I could get a lot of it in my mouth
Speaker 1: because I hate it when it's really long and thick
Speaker 1: and I can't get it down my throat because I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm failing. I'm like it just it doesn't
Speaker 1: open that way. Um No, No, he hasn't his amazing cock,
Speaker 1: but we had he had to like really get in
Speaker 1: there and like dig him out for me. Is that
Speaker 1: like ceremonial when the guys and are they like are
Speaker 1: they always cool with it or will some of them go?
Speaker 1: The guys that I've ever had have always been cool
Speaker 1: with it. I know that. Like there's some guys who
Speaker 1: are like, oh, she's on her period. It's like, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: you cannot work ever. Yeah, like we can make that
Speaker 1: real possible your period. Yeah, idea, what position you're in
Speaker 1: right now? My poopol and your friend a little blood?
Speaker 1: Shut the funk up. You get over it, sweetheart. Did
Speaker 1: you ever do anything that you were like, this is like,
Speaker 1: this is disgusting, I never want to do this again.
Speaker 1: And incesting that was such a quick answer. Always that
Speaker 1: one Incessport is all because like I've done scenes where
Speaker 1: it's like mother's teaching daughters where like the mother and
Speaker 1: daughter don't interact, Like Yeah, that one for me, it
Speaker 1: was super fun because it's like mother's teaching daughters how
Speaker 1: to give blow jobs. And I'm like, in your head,
Speaker 1: do you just pretend it's your friend, your that's really
Speaker 1: what it's like a daughter anyway. Yeah, But for this
Speaker 1: particular seen it was me and my quote unquote real
Speaker 1: daughter having sex with her black boyfriend. It's always, you know,
Speaker 1: the black eyed wind comes m the incest stuff for summer,
Speaker 1: The cup hold porn is racist, so that many times,
Speaker 1: every porn star we've ever talked to racist and how ridiculous,
Speaker 1: like when you your rate goes that, like what the funk?
Speaker 1: Oh that never happened to me? Oh good, that that
Speaker 1: never has so like for certain sights, like that's just
Speaker 1: their average rate that they pay, Like like dog fart,
Speaker 1: they pay a specific rate for which fart, dog fart
Speaker 1: dog fart dot com does not make you horny? What
Speaker 1: dogs fart and you eat it? What happened? Why you
Speaker 1: guys don't know? Please break this down? I don't know. Okay,
Speaker 1: So dog fart dot Com. I loved um. I love
Speaker 1: the people that own it, like the guy who he's great,
Speaker 1: super cool dude, very chill, always has makeup artist, gives
Speaker 1: you sandwiches. Hey, if we're going to do work on
Speaker 1: dog fart dot com, they want the high squal I
Speaker 1: get it. But it's a lot of um, like interracial porn,
Speaker 1: like black son blondes um watching My Mom Go Black
Speaker 1: as the scene that I shot where I have my
Speaker 1: son who um For this particular scene, my fake son
Speaker 1: and hit this guy's car with a skateboard and in
Speaker 1: order to teach him a lesson, I had to fun
Speaker 1: my black man in front of him. Darn Wait, what
Speaker 1: the fuck do you know these scenes are, Finn, Did
Speaker 1: you turn to the camera at the end and go
Speaker 1: want to go black? You never go bad? But they
Speaker 1: did want me to say the N word and like
Speaker 1: that happened, and yeah, that was that for that one.
Speaker 1: I don't want to say it was for that one.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give him a bad name, but
Speaker 1: it was for one of the interracial scenes. Were like, oh,
Speaker 1: you could say and I'm like, no, I can't do that.
Speaker 1: I have a pass with a small group of people
Speaker 1: back home in Milwaukee where I'm drunk. I will drop
Speaker 1: it all the time with them because they allow me
Speaker 1: to write right right, because I grew up with them
Speaker 1: only in that only with those Yeah, yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: need that, you don't need yeah. Oh god, well there's
Speaker 1: actually I have a fan that made a video of me.
Speaker 1: He was very upset with me that I blocked him
Speaker 1: on Twitter, so he made this at all none. He's
Speaker 1: probably being real polite and super super nice, always nice,
Speaker 1: positive tweets all of the time, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: can't have this positivity. God Jesus, that made well. He
Speaker 1: made it through a six minute video. The first three
Speaker 1: minutes I was explaining why he's my fan and why
Speaker 1: he likes me, which I'm like, oh sweet, um. And
Speaker 1: then the next three minutes is, um, why I'm racist
Speaker 1: against white people? His white white men. He's a white guy, right,
Speaker 1: specifically for performing in cuck hold scenes. I mean, the
Speaker 1: name of the video is le j is a racist?
Speaker 1: It's on YouTube? Does he present he probably presents a
Speaker 1: terrible argument. Oh, it is the best argument I have.
Speaker 1: It's so ridiculous. Um. And then he talks about like
Speaker 1: how my comedy is racist against white men. No one
Speaker 1: can be racist against white men. God damn, it's so
Speaker 1: get you know what that means. I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: I can understand like man hating. But then all I
Speaker 1: mean what it is because I'm forcing a white man
Speaker 1: to what my husband in a couckle if you have
Speaker 1: a cuckle kink in which your wife because they know that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's kind of if anything would just be disrespectful
Speaker 1: to that individual. Well, I always have to explain people
Speaker 1: that I'm like, what you see on TV isn't real,
Speaker 1: like I have I'll do it like I have a bit.
Speaker 1: I'm like you guys know, like people always assume my
Speaker 1: life it's consumed with sexist like assuming Paul Walker knows
Speaker 1: how to drive a race car. Sometimes I get great laughs.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people are like that's too soon, and I'm like
Speaker 1: it was too fast and infurious movies, I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: given comedy. Yeah, so so like I use that. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you guys, like you have to disassociate, like you need
Speaker 1: like we're not the same thing, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like Angelina Jolie isn't really Laura Croft or what you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, and so a lot of
Speaker 1: times they see us and because we are actually really
Speaker 1: having sex, they're like, oh, that's exactly what she does
Speaker 1: all the time in real life. How is porn sex
Speaker 1: for you different than the sex you have in your
Speaker 1: personal time? It's a little shorter, like a couple like that.
Speaker 1: It could be very sweet. No, it depends. It depends
Speaker 1: on the guy in the mood. Basically, like I could
Speaker 1: go for hours and that is super fun, but it
Speaker 1: has to be with the right guy, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, And they actually have to be good at
Speaker 1: it kind of thing, and that's kind of hard to find.
Speaker 1: You ever got with somebody and they were so excited
Speaker 1: to fuck you that they were just like Jacker or
Speaker 1: you would just came into you Oh god. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: there's been a couple of those. There's been a couple
Speaker 1: that gets so nervous they can't even get it up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've heard. Yeah, I've had one dude, um who's like
Speaker 1: heard my like he knows that it was a porn star,
Speaker 1: but for some reason, like it like left him and
Speaker 1: then like when we talked, I'm like, okay, so this
Speaker 1: is what's going to happen, um socially basically like a
Speaker 1: kip guts ruled and stuff like that, and he like,
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm like, you know because of the
Speaker 1: porn And he's like and he's like what, he got
Speaker 1: up and he actually started dancing and then I kicked
Speaker 1: him out of the apartment like sexual dance. No, No,
Speaker 1: he got up and he's like dance. He's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I just sucked a porn star. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm like, honey, your dick was half heard and I'm
Speaker 1: the one who made myself come. I'm like you could
Speaker 1: leave now. Does it does it affect your personal relationships
Speaker 1: or like when do you tell someone that you were
Speaker 1: the same like sex industry? Like I don't know. Just
Speaker 1: I feel like people are so obsessed with this, like
Speaker 1: with your occupation when you're a woman, whether like even
Speaker 1: like saying we do a sex podcast makes people nervous,
Speaker 1: so I can be imagine what it's like for you.
Speaker 1: A lot of times, I just I just make sure
Speaker 1: that they knew were really knew already. Okay, that's easier
Speaker 1: a lot of times, yeah, because like trying to explain it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I'm just like I'd rather not. Like I tried
Speaker 1: Tinder for like forty eight hours, Like I can't do that.
Speaker 1: Did you get a lot of people who like knew
Speaker 1: your work sometimes? Yeah? Yeah. Like the very first time
Speaker 1: I signed up for for Tinder, it was supposed to
Speaker 1: be like a um, like an experiment. I was going
Speaker 1: to do like porn star account and then regular person account.
Speaker 1: But this is when you actually had to hook it
Speaker 1: up with your Facebook thing. So so I went to
Speaker 1: the real one right away. And then I think it
Speaker 1: was within like a day, like someone that messaged me
Speaker 1: on Facebook, Oh I matched with you on Tinder, and
Speaker 1: mind you, I just downloaded the app and made the profile.
Speaker 1: I didn't even do anything, and I'm like, okay, experiment over. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I actually tried it to like see and
Speaker 1: then I I downloaded all at the same time. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's see and I just start swiping and then I'm
Speaker 1: like deleted and canceled and like all of these things.
Speaker 1: I had a couple of dudes like stock me on
Speaker 1: social media a little bit, and I'm like, if you
Speaker 1: just come to a show, if you want to come,
Speaker 1: like like I was actually thinking about using it, just
Speaker 1: be guys to come to show. Hey, whatever works, You're
Speaker 1: very fine whenever. I'll get it in the door and
Speaker 1: they can meet you. I mean, that's the most more thing.
Speaker 1: Have you ever gotten recognized in the street and you're
Speaker 1: like shut up, dude, Like yeah, right in front of
Speaker 1: my office, right in front like at least once a
Speaker 1: week almost, which is fucking weird. It's super weird to me.
Speaker 1: My gosh, um. Well the thing with the internet, like
Speaker 1: I've been retired for five years, but the Internet is forever.
Speaker 1: And that's what I was going to say, like that
Speaker 1: do you like that? Are you like? I mean, it's weird.
Speaker 1: People are like, oh, I love you. Like I had
Speaker 1: this dutey's UM's uh this rapper from South Africa, like
Speaker 1: super cute and like I was outside smoking a cigarette
Speaker 1: and like, I know I'm standing there. I thought he
Speaker 1: was just playing on his phone and then I started walking.
Speaker 1: He's like, are you Alia Janine? And I'm like and
Speaker 1: he said my name, like that's how you say it,
Speaker 1: it's Ali. I'm like, yeah, it's Ali. No, Elia's fine,
Speaker 1: It's fine. But like the like one my mother's mad
Speaker 1: at me, it's it's um and I'm just like he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. And then he walked away, and
Speaker 1: then like Instagram's like, oh I just saw you on
Speaker 1: the street. And then like Katie Hannigan actually know somebody
Speaker 1: that saw me in a train and took a picture
Speaker 1: of me. And I'm just like, oh nice, and like
Speaker 1: that's crazy cool. So now a lot like I wear
Speaker 1: hoodies in the train and sunlass yeah you gotta. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The taking pictures of people without them knowing is so
Speaker 1: fucking weird. I don't even do it to people who
Speaker 1: I think are non famous. Never mind, well I did
Speaker 1: a little bit, but a lot like I'll cover up
Speaker 1: their face like like they're doing something douche or whatever. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll their face. That's fine. Yeah, I'll cover up their
Speaker 1: face because I'm like, oh wait, I don't like it
Speaker 1: when I get my picture to yeah, any anything that
Speaker 1: can reveal who they are. UM. So we're talking about
Speaker 1: porn a little bit. Why uh, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: we know some reasons why it's important, but like, in
Speaker 1: your opinion, why is it so important to pay for porn?
Speaker 1: If you can make like an emotional I want to
Speaker 1: try to encourage people to do it because it's so
Speaker 1: easy to say like, yeah, you should, but then you know,
Speaker 1: when you're in the heat of the night at midnight
Speaker 1: and do we have Sarah McLaughlin's The Angel now I could, Yes,
Speaker 1: I need a s A from you because for every
Speaker 1: dollar every view that I've had on every tube side,
Speaker 1: I would have two to three d million dollars right now.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Really because we don't get residuals and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Um. One of the reasons why people
Speaker 1: should pay for porn is accountability a lot of times. UM,
Speaker 1: because right now I believe porn Hub, at least in UM,
Speaker 1: at least in Britain, they now, like a lot of
Speaker 1: the tube sides, they don't have age verification and stuff
Speaker 1: like this. UM. Anyone like kids as young as like
Speaker 1: six to twelve years old or are going on these sides?
Speaker 1: Are you over eighteen? Yeah? So so there's there's really
Speaker 1: no restrictions, Like there's just so much of it online
Speaker 1: that it really is kind of desensitizing people. And it
Speaker 1: is like if if you're watching porn every single day,
Speaker 1: you are not going to have a normal sex life.
Speaker 1: See I ran out of the gates of and I
Speaker 1: didn't even think of I love this so good. Why
Speaker 1: do you say that? Um? Well, I agree emotionally it
Speaker 1: could suck you up, especially for men. Um. There's there
Speaker 1: hasn't been a lot of studies on this like that
Speaker 1: that I've researched, um at least, but there have been
Speaker 1: some where it doesn't say that it promotes meant to
Speaker 1: commit violence against women, but it does desensitize men, especially
Speaker 1: like within Me Too movement where they're just like whatever, yeah,
Speaker 1: because when you see kinky porn all the time, they're
Speaker 1: like a conversation before yeah, they're like, oh no, she
Speaker 1: totally wants it all of the time. And so like,
Speaker 1: it desensitizes a lot of people, and when it comes
Speaker 1: with sex education, it does sunk up a lot of guys.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of times they suck too fast, or
Speaker 1: they can't come at all, um, you know, or they
Speaker 1: can't get it up sometimes unless it's like super intense
Speaker 1: crazy ship and they're like eighteen. You know, we'll hand
Speaker 1: you for yourself. Do it for the children. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: if you if you acquire a paid log in, and
Speaker 1: I know that's going to keep really young people from
Speaker 1: seeing stuff before. That's so smart. That's that's think. I
Speaker 1: always had this theory. I think we've talked about it
Speaker 1: before the podcast, but I'm curious what you think about it.
Speaker 1: I feel like guys that are threes on a one
Speaker 1: to ten scale, Uh, they'll look at my fans, look,
Speaker 1: they'll look at you can look at ten's all day,
Speaker 1: And I feel like it warps and fox their brain
Speaker 1: up to think that they can get a ten, not
Speaker 1: only can get a temp, but deserve it. And do
Speaker 1: you think that's true? Yeah? It definitely. Like it gives
Speaker 1: a different perception, like what like, porn is not bad,
Speaker 1: it's an art form. It's a weird fucking talent to
Speaker 1: god damn it. Like it took a long time to
Speaker 1: learn how to deep throat and not throw up. You
Speaker 1: know what, I mean like that takes good just a
Speaker 1: sexual athlete. You guys, you are sexually sexually Wait, is
Speaker 1: there a trick that you teach some tricks grab your
Speaker 1: own thumb and grab your own thumb and then squeeze
Speaker 1: it when you're doing it. That can shut the funk up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just doing why because it distracts It distracts your brain.
Speaker 1: What the that's crazy? Wait? Give us some other I
Speaker 1: knew I would wear. How do you what's the best
Speaker 1: way to get a blowjob? Like? Okay, well, from what
Speaker 1: I know, um, hands are always important. Both are one. Um,
Speaker 1: well both you you want to like go back and forth. Um,
Speaker 1: I like to do the stroke and the suck. Um
Speaker 1: if the guy can hand because a lot of times
Speaker 1: guys can't handle that much sensation at first. You got
Speaker 1: how do you know when you sleep with someone new? Like,
Speaker 1: how do you know a sensitive their dick is? Well,
Speaker 1: you can kind of ask them. I mean if they're
Speaker 1: if they're cut her uncut, like cut, they're going to
Speaker 1: be a little desensitized. If they're cut, or if they're
Speaker 1: not cut, Yeah, yeah, they're they're definitely do they cut
Speaker 1: their risks porn term are you cut her on cut um.
Speaker 1: Like if they're and cut their obviously going to be
Speaker 1: more sensitive. There's always like the balls the taint, like
Speaker 1: women with them you just hold a lot of times
Speaker 1: that you hold them and kind of like a stress ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like a stress ball and just squeeze a little bit.
Speaker 1: Some guys like them socked on some yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: like you kind of like tickle in the taint and
Speaker 1: then grab a little bit. Some guys like them squeeze sometimes.
Speaker 1: So you ask I have nails. I always like to
Speaker 1: ask because sometimes I'll dig. But sometimes they like that.
Speaker 1: It depends and you go like varying speeds and feel
Speaker 1: like slow. Yeah. Yeah. I always like a lot of spit.
Speaker 1: I think that is I spit on dick, so you
Speaker 1: just well professionally, yes, I put it in your mouth
Speaker 1: because I'm like, I don't want to spit on it.
Speaker 1: I spit, but I don't make it like a big
Speaker 1: show the way it isn't porn, but yeah, yeah, important
Speaker 1: it is. It's more of a show thing. Sometimes like
Speaker 1: if the dick is big enough, I do have to
Speaker 1: come up and spit it out because like I can't
Speaker 1: get at all. There's a lot of times when you
Speaker 1: get like when the dick is like further like back
Speaker 1: in your throat and stuff, it makes you salotate, like
Speaker 1: you get more saliva and stuff, and that's actually a
Speaker 1: good thing. But at the same time, like you don't
Speaker 1: want to choke on your own spin. So true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I get up and like a lot of times,
Speaker 1: like I'll grab it because I'll have like the head
Speaker 1: of the dick in my hand and then go up
Speaker 1: and then like cover my mouth and then take oh,
Speaker 1: so your handles over the head as well with my
Speaker 1: mouth and then that way. Have you ever slipped with
Speaker 1: the guy with a small dick? And what dat me
Speaker 1: kill that? So? I mean this is like from like
Speaker 1: the smallest I ever had, like literally my pinky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I didn't know we were having sex. So what
Speaker 1: advice or would you give a guy who has a
Speaker 1: small penis? But because this is a question, we've gotten
Speaker 1: a lot and I don't know what to say. I
Speaker 1: truly don't. And what is there something could you do?
Speaker 1: Anal put a strap? I don't know what would you
Speaker 1: say for a smaller dick? Well, A lot of times
Speaker 1: with smaller dicks um grinding you could do a lot
Speaker 1: of grinding because so small, so it's hard. Yeahah, if
Speaker 1: it's hard and it's in there and you grind it,
Speaker 1: and you could do it that way, like you don't
Speaker 1: have to like go up and down, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? That way it'll rub on your clip perfectly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So you can rub around that way and the little
Speaker 1: bit it's it's kind of like having like one or
Speaker 1: two fingers in there, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: that way. Um, yeah, I would say a lot of grinding.
Speaker 1: I like grinding. Yeah, I love grinder. I first learned
Speaker 1: to masturbate, so I'm like that's my go to. Yeah,
Speaker 1: anything else like and and But have you slept with
Speaker 1: anybody with a small dick recently? You don't have to
Speaker 1: name anybody, but did they tell you beforehand? Did you
Speaker 1: find out? What was your reaction? I'm just curious. No. No,
Speaker 1: they've all been um, fairly average. A couple like bigger
Speaker 1: ones where I was like, hey, but sometimes it could
Speaker 1: be too big because I also, you know, you have
Speaker 1: a tip uterus or like there's just certain things where
Speaker 1: you're just like, how big was the biggest dick that
Speaker 1: I've ever had? Yeah? Um, oh my god, your voice
Speaker 1: just like not like was that I mean Jack and
Speaker 1: appire he has was it like twelve or thirty? Is
Speaker 1: he a porn star? Yeah, he's the one that I
Speaker 1: did watching my mom go black with Jack here. Okay,
Speaker 1: wait just and a I p r Sean Michael, Oh
Speaker 1: Sean Michael's I'm like he's got an hair ord size
Speaker 1: and know he's got a humongous cock um how bit
Speaker 1: like uh image Wait, I'm just getting a bunch of
Speaker 1: the joker the funk jack n A p I e er. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a character in Batman. That's why you're going names
Speaker 1: I think are named after people there it is Oh whoa,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's a big day. Yeah. His was
Speaker 1: super long like his is longer like the thickness and yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's he didn't take anything or get an enhancement
Speaker 1: of it. That's the thing that sucks about when the
Speaker 1: dicks are that big, because that's really hard to keep
Speaker 1: them fully. Yeah, it's like it's very complicated. More blood
Speaker 1: flow has to go more, let us to go in rights.
Speaker 1: My favorite picture is a girl with a cup as
Speaker 1: if she's drinking it, but then his dick is just
Speaker 1: peeking out of the cup. I love that photo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's cute. He's got a good sense of humors. Oh yeah, No,
Speaker 1: he's super fun to work with. That he also looks
Speaker 1: like he looks like he plays for like the Harlem
Speaker 1: Globe draper. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Um. And I want
Speaker 1: to say, like close to the size of my forearm,
Speaker 1: like that's a big like because the thickness yeah, and
Speaker 1: the length like more so the link. Do you have
Speaker 1: to like mentally prep to take a dick that big
Speaker 1: kind of Yeah? Anal absolutely in your butt? Holy crap.
Speaker 1: And you like anal? Yeah, teach me what's your process? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: So the couple of times, like for work, I never
Speaker 1: really got off on anal, Um, but I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: It's not that I didn't enjoy it. Um. It was
Speaker 1: always privately. It's always a lot slower. There's not a
Speaker 1: lot of pounding. It's more like a sensual UM. Preparation
Speaker 1: is always key for me. That UM. I like vibrating anal.
Speaker 1: Butt plugs like those are my favorite. UM. There's one
Speaker 1: particularly by Hustler butt Hole just went that works. Always.
Speaker 1: Having the tapered end helps because I do have I
Speaker 1: have these gauges, but gauges. Um, they kind they kind
Speaker 1: of gauge in your ears. Yeah, they but their butt
Speaker 1: plugs and they look like bullets and they have and
Speaker 1: they're ported, so they have a hole so that way
Speaker 1: air to go through. But it's not tapered because it's
Speaker 1: actually meant to stretch STU because drain is can stretch
Speaker 1: pretty Yeah. But the thing that doesn't go back, that's
Speaker 1: the hole that doesn't go back to normal size if
Speaker 1: you blow it out. That's how girls like blow out
Speaker 1: their ass How do you wait? How do you know?
Speaker 1: How do you blow up your asshole? Um? When it's
Speaker 1: just open, you know, because how tie it is? Now
Speaker 1: Like a lot of times, like gaping assholes, they can
Speaker 1: get blown out, Like how do you know when you've
Speaker 1: gone to fall? How do you know? How do you
Speaker 1: know when your assholes gonna blow? I've never gone that far,
Speaker 1: so I couldn't tell. Do you know people have blown
Speaker 1: out like a blackout? You don't know? And then it
Speaker 1: happened then And yeah, I mean the more you do it,
Speaker 1: the bigger it's going to be. Like there's certain girls
Speaker 1: right now that have colosomy biggs Like wait, so but
Speaker 1: if you've taken a dick that big up your butt
Speaker 1: is your butts is your butt called bigger and your
Speaker 1: digestion not really, but like because I do like kegles
Speaker 1: and stuff, but you can dock kegles too, So like
Speaker 1: any time after after an anal, Yeah, you do them automatically.
Speaker 1: Anytime someone says kegle, say it again? Trump? Yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 1: so like I you like I did butt extra like
Speaker 1: I do them now. Just ink. Because my grandmother, she
Speaker 1: my great grandmother, before she died, like her vagina fell out,
Speaker 1: you know, she she had a bunch of kids and
Speaker 1: like dropping a lot of bombs. Agin you've never heard
Speaker 1: of like old people I have, but I just don't
Speaker 1: think about it. I don't think about I have not
Speaker 1: how many kids? So she had, um, she had like
Speaker 1: four or five, that's it. And her pussy fell out. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean she was fucking like nineties. She get railed
Speaker 1: on the regular. What the kink? I mean that was
Speaker 1: her second husband, so she got like she got divorced
Speaker 1: and married to do ten years younger than her UM.
Speaker 1: So maybe she had more kids. I forgot how many
Speaker 1: people vagina? Um? But yeah, no, this was when she
Speaker 1: was a lot older. I used to work in a
Speaker 1: nursing home, and like, I've seen you have so many
Speaker 1: fucking I know every time you would need to write
Speaker 1: a book or make a documentary or something, you're like
Speaker 1: Benjamin Franklin, you you had your jack of all trades
Speaker 1: over here. Well, my mom was a nurse, so she's like,
Speaker 1: you should do this. I was eighteen and like they
Speaker 1: paid for training, was paid training and ship whatever I
Speaker 1: was on drugs. I'm like, maybe I could get drugs
Speaker 1: from here. Great, but like I would like take care
Speaker 1: of like people that like just like strings of hemorrhoids
Speaker 1: coming out of there. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 1: What are your dirty talk tips? I love that. I
Speaker 1: love that. I don't So it was just so informative,
Speaker 1: very I mean, people need to know about this kind
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