Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast always gets there. Man. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas. I'm joined in a room
Speaker 1: that's filled with heroes. Mark Sassler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rose.
Speaker 1: It doll, what is up? Boys? He d Hello, it's
Speaker 1: fun day. Everybody have a nice Mother's Day. Mark, you
Speaker 1: did not? What does that mean? He texted with me.
Speaker 1: First of all, back the truck up. It's not it's
Speaker 1: I think I think that you know it's Mother's Day
Speaker 1: and Father's Day have now boiled down to and tell
Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. Um. In some sort of modern
Speaker 1: day scenarios, for like if you have young kids, where
Speaker 1: when you sort of ask what is it you would
Speaker 1: like for Mother's Day, the underlying request is for all
Speaker 1: of you to get out of the house, which we
Speaker 1: were not able to accomplish to a satisfactory degree yesterday.
Speaker 1: I thought, so I think I could have done a
Speaker 1: better job. Let me put it right there. My wife
Speaker 1: was on a business trip that coincide with our anniversary
Speaker 1: Saturday and Mother's Day yesterday, So I actually handsome hank
Speaker 1: of Dave Damn Sick Football Program fame and I his
Speaker 1: wife also out of time town. His wife also named Emily. Uh.
Speaker 1: We got together, took four boys and a girl to
Speaker 1: local area park, then went and got a little bite
Speaker 1: to eat out a beer, nice little and then everything
Speaker 1: around that was pure hell. I am this is the
Speaker 1: I've never that was the worst weekend of my life.
Speaker 1: But now now it's in the clear. That's taing. If
Speaker 1: you look at like the Instagram feed, like there's a
Speaker 1: photo of us um at Barney's sixty six down in
Speaker 1: Santa Monica, Culton eating like a giant piece of bacon,
Speaker 1: it looks like we're having this amazing time. But it
Speaker 1: was a nice hour and a half clumped into what
Speaker 1: was a day where the two children could not have
Speaker 1: understood what Mother's Day stood for any less, where was
Speaker 1: the moment? So you're saying social media sometimes pazza rosier
Speaker 1: picture than sometimes it does. No, she was she was
Speaker 1: not feeling too well also, So there were a lot
Speaker 1: of factors that I think we need to redo. I mean,
Speaker 1: it wasn't I saw that West went down to San
Speaker 1: Diego this weekend and it looked like quite luxurious and
Speaker 1: quite RESTful. I think we might have gotten to Sunday
Speaker 1: night in different places. This semi debauch only has a
Speaker 1: couple of these left. Let's be honest. Yeah, I'm still
Speaker 1: in my like cancers in the rear view mirror liberation
Speaker 1: zone here, but looking the paramore is only going to
Speaker 1: be cool with that for so much longer. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: Others day turned into something totally different from Mr Wesley.
Speaker 1: Let's oh no, there's after Tybee is the reckoning? Whoa,
Speaker 1: that's like my my, my recess is over. It's back
Speaker 1: to that's when takes off your pants and puts them
Speaker 1: on her body. This is all totally unrelated to the paramore.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you check yourself in the mirror and know that
Speaker 1: our reckoning has to come, you know about this time
Speaker 1: self reckoning? No, it's more of a self. It's something
Speaker 1: I decide did over the past couple of weeks as
Speaker 1: I was slowly regressing to what I was before cancer. Interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: West West, I feel like is that's kind of your move.
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, you sort of check yourself,
Speaker 1: you reevaluate, and then you change some things. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I am I have a long history of making bad decisions.
Speaker 1: So when you pile, when you stack up bad decisions.
Speaker 1: There's a reckoning that comes from that. You have to
Speaker 1: look in the mirror and then step back and they
Speaker 1: have to be a new person. Another example would be
Speaker 1: your o'dull summer of two thousand nine. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's the correct here, but there was no aduls.
Speaker 1: It was actually a different It was something non alcoholics room.
Speaker 1: For those that aren't aware, it was like a Buckley's.
Speaker 1: I think it was called like a fancy non alcoholic beer. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: that might have been like two thousand eleven, two thousand eleven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the o'dual's summer of eleven. That wasn't It was no fun,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. All right, Welcome to the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast, Monday edition. Big show coming up. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about a famous player retiring, a famous
Speaker 1: coach passing away, and other news, uh, including a famous
Speaker 1: tight end who's in his final year of his twenties. Then, Greg,
Speaker 1: you've been working on your projected starter series. You do
Speaker 1: it every year. Uh, so we said, Greg, it's time
Speaker 1: for you to out with it. Let's get some provocative
Speaker 1: hot takes from you connected to your projected starter series. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then a little a special guest at the end.
Speaker 1: The end of the show, that's all say special guests
Speaker 1: we haven't heard from in a while, and it's time
Speaker 1: to touch base. But before and I'm back on the show,
Speaker 1: Tony Romo's back to tell us an amusing anecdote about
Speaker 1: his uncle that sure surely was not canned or read
Speaker 1: off a script. Uh, that's a that's some deep cuts
Speaker 1: from long time listeners might understand it. But let's do
Speaker 1: some news. Lindsay, I got married and I moved to Nashville.
Speaker 1: J is a different emails and love letters. I don't
Speaker 1: know you, DECI And that's Kristen Cavalary Cutler, who has
Speaker 1: a new reality show I Believe on e And of
Speaker 1: course the voice there was Jay Cutler, who Mark could
Speaker 1: not look anymore slumpy at that fine eatery where he
Speaker 1: says that line about his wife. The author field Jay Cutler,
Speaker 1: I am a tremendous fan of and he yes, he's
Speaker 1: sitting with it looks like they were on some sort
Speaker 1: of a double date. And he's wearing a just a
Speaker 1: giant winter hat and like basically brow it out clothing,
Speaker 1: just sort of sitting slumped away from Kristen cavalery. And
Speaker 1: when she tries to complain about I used to write
Speaker 1: all these little love emails, he was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you go to bed at PM. That was the end
Speaker 1: of love. That was kind of a cutting line. That
Speaker 1: was cutting, but it is I think. I think every
Speaker 1: married couple can say, on either side, you used to
Speaker 1: do this and now you don't. Here's why. And it's
Speaker 1: like everyone has cameras in a good team. That made
Speaker 1: me want to watch the show. I might. I'll watch
Speaker 1: the parts for him exactly fast forward, because the dynamic
Speaker 1: even in that little clip was amazing. He sort of
Speaker 1: obviously did not care about her friends or what was
Speaker 1: going on, and then she she pops in and he
Speaker 1: immediately as a bigger right back. This is a man
Speaker 1: wearing the pants in the relationship. Yeah, it's clear that
Speaker 1: that had been a conversation that's had many times before,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't care about airing the dirty laundry. I
Speaker 1: mean the I check out the tweet and we'll send
Speaker 1: it out from around the NFL or one of our accounts.
Speaker 1: He's leaning back, he's in like a sweatsuit. He's either
Speaker 1: just belched or farted, and they're at this like fine
Speaker 1: restaurant where everyone is dressed up. Christen Cavalery. Fashion is
Speaker 1: the thing they're all wearing like ten thousand dollar outfits
Speaker 1: and ear rings and jewelry. And this guy just feels
Speaker 1: like he rolled off airplane, uh where he had like
Speaker 1: a red eye flight. It's awesome, all right. So what's
Speaker 1: the name of that show mark that we're gonna be watching.
Speaker 1: I think it's like keeping up with because it's not
Speaker 1: keeping up I don't know the Adventures of Jay and
Speaker 1: keeping up with the name of her jewelry store? Wow? Uh,
Speaker 1: we will start with what is the name of it is?
Speaker 1: It is uncommon, James, very Cavalry. I have stepped foot
Speaker 1: in it. You want the paramore out they had. They
Speaker 1: had multiple meetings calls to come up with Very Cavalary
Speaker 1: Like that was like a multi weeek process to get
Speaker 1: to that. The Paramore West you said in our I
Speaker 1: am client, you went on like a scavenger hunt to
Speaker 1: find Jay Cutler's wife's um home improvement store whatever. We
Speaker 1: went to Nashville, And if I didn't know any but
Speaker 1: are the entire purpose of going to Nashville was to
Speaker 1: go to like Cavalary's Jewelry shop. She's all over the show.
Speaker 1: She's basically told West, we were going to be watching
Speaker 1: this in our shared locations in West has said no,
Speaker 1: the paramore dragging West to jewelry shops. Connect the dots.
Speaker 1: We start with some sad news in the NFL. Former
Speaker 1: Rams and Seahawks coach Chuck Knox has died at the
Speaker 1: age of eighty six. The Seahawks confirmed this on Sunday.
Speaker 1: One of the winners winning his coaches in NFL history
Speaker 1: ground Chuck was twice named NFL Coach of the Year
Speaker 1: with the Seahawks and eighty three and eighty four. He
Speaker 1: coached Seattle from eight three to ninety one, UH winning
Speaker 1: records and six of those nine seasons. UH reached the
Speaker 1: a f C Championship Game in his first year with
Speaker 1: the team twelve wins the following season. UH So, obviously,
Speaker 1: in a time mark when the Seahawks weren't the Seahawks
Speaker 1: that we know today that had that glory run with
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll and the Legion of Boom, Knox was. Knox
Speaker 1: was kind of a towering figure of the pre UH
Speaker 1: legion of Boom era. Yeah, I mean, it's easy to
Speaker 1: forget that this was an expansion team that had not
Speaker 1: had much success at all, and I think the Chuck's nut,
Speaker 1: Chuck Knox. We talk all the time teams that didn't
Speaker 1: have an identity. Chuck Knox was one of the first
Speaker 1: coaches in Seattle to come in and provide that for them.
Speaker 1: They had a fair amount of stars during his run. Cortez, Kennedy,
Speaker 1: Kenny Easily, Well, I know that's a big West guy,
Speaker 1: Steve Largent back in the day, Dave Craig, the up
Speaker 1: and down quarterback. But I think when you that I
Speaker 1: came into football around and whenever you find football or
Speaker 1: a sport that you love and you really dive into
Speaker 1: it as a younger person, especially, you become uh imbued
Speaker 1: and like enamored with all the current coaches and the
Speaker 1: current stars, and they're kind of unforgettable for you. And
Speaker 1: Dave Craig was one of those guys. The old a
Speaker 1: f C West, back before they moved to the NFC,
Speaker 1: was a wild division and they were a starring contributor
Speaker 1: to the old an f C West. Kurt Warner was
Speaker 1: on that team. I think of the Rams really when
Speaker 1: I think of Chuck Knox, and I know, like he's
Speaker 1: more known for his Seahawks career now, but his first
Speaker 1: five seasons of his career, he won the NFC West.
Speaker 1: With the Rams, he went to three straight conference title games,
Speaker 1: lost all three. And it's because he never had a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean, the the the record in Los Angeles when
Speaker 1: he came in there is outrageous. I mean he the
Speaker 1: worst record he had in his first four seasons was
Speaker 1: ten and four. Just doing the math here, I think
Speaker 1: fifty four and seventeen. I mean that is unbelievably dominant.
Speaker 1: Had the number one defense a few of those years,
Speaker 1: had the number one offense the first one of those years.
Speaker 1: Uh but kind of like an Andy Reid in Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: maybe totally different style, didn't win and didn't get to this.
Speaker 1: I would say he was the nineteen seventies version of
Speaker 1: Marty Schottenheimer, where he was two run heavy, two defense heavy,
Speaker 1: and if you read like Lawrence McCutcheon, who was his
Speaker 1: running back with the Rams, had criticisms that he didn't
Speaker 1: have a balanced offense, and then teams knew how to
Speaker 1: stop them in the playoffs every year. What's wild? He
Speaker 1: got fired after that run fifty four and seventeen, and
Speaker 1: and then he got let go, which is which is rough.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you mentioned Seattle. That was the first time
Speaker 1: they had even never made the playoffs. I forgot. He
Speaker 1: came back to the Rams in the mid nineties and
Speaker 1: coached him. Chuck Knox passes away at the age of
Speaker 1: eighties six. Moving on, D'Angelo Hall is ending his NFL
Speaker 1: career after fourteen seasons. The long time Redskins cornerback is retiring,
Speaker 1: he told reporters on Monday. Uh, he is thinking about
Speaker 1: his next step, maybe TV, maybe moving into a front
Speaker 1: office position if he can get one. Uh. He was
Speaker 1: a first round pick of the Falcons way back in
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Spent nine and a half seasons
Speaker 1: though with the Redskins, where he became a staple of
Speaker 1: that secondary and Greg he was a guy that I
Speaker 1: feel like D'Angel Hall has been in the league for
Speaker 1: twenty five years. It wasn't quite that long, but he
Speaker 1: put together a really long and strong NFL career. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was kind of a sensation when he first came
Speaker 1: in in two thousand and four, just because of his
Speaker 1: mouth really I mean partly cutting, I mean not in
Speaker 1: a bad way. He was provoca provocateur. I mean he
Speaker 1: had a big mouth. He came in, he got a
Speaker 1: lot of hype around him. He was a little up
Speaker 1: and down in Atlanta. I always thought of him when
Speaker 1: we were at road World as a guy who like
Speaker 1: maxed out his money. So like, I think that maybe
Speaker 1: that's not important to us, but I'm sure other players
Speaker 1: kind of think about that, and they look at the
Speaker 1: kind of career he had, not a guy who was
Speaker 1: making a ton of Pro Bowls. He made a ton
Speaker 1: of money from the Falcons in that old, you know,
Speaker 1: rookie contract, and then and then of course from the
Speaker 1: Redskins too. It was a weird trade to Oakland and
Speaker 1: then it then it he was cut after the season.
Speaker 1: He's he has said though, because he he's he kind
Speaker 1: of views himself. They weren't for the injuries over the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. He views himself, he said, as
Speaker 1: a gold jacket Hall of Fame player. And now we
Speaker 1: may not agree, but he said, I'm gonna get there
Speaker 1: one way or other, whether it's through coaching or three
Speaker 1: through being an executive. I'm gonna find my way. To
Speaker 1: Canna thought, Wow, that's you don't that's kind of a
Speaker 1: fiery exit interview. Yeah, I don't like his chances of
Speaker 1: wearing a gold I think bowl, well, I think I
Speaker 1: think he. I think he agrees that it's going to
Speaker 1: have to come to another route. I mean the longevity.
Speaker 1: How many players would take the longevity? I mean and
Speaker 1: and he But he was a guy, and I think
Speaker 1: this is important thing about his time in Washington. He
Speaker 1: was a guy who's known as kind of a heady player,
Speaker 1: kind of the guy that other guys in the secondary
Speaker 1: looked to as a leader, as a very smart player.
Speaker 1: And so may who knows, maybe we've seen him around
Speaker 1: later in early in his career. He's known for his
Speaker 1: speed and taking a lot of gambles and tying back
Speaker 1: to our news drop up today. In two thousand ten,
Speaker 1: he had a game or he intercepted Jay Cutler four
Speaker 1: times in a single game. That's an NFL record, tied
Speaker 1: for an NFL record, So that's pretty cool. He owns
Speaker 1: away from him made three al Right, Moving on Blake Bortles. Listen,
Speaker 1: say what you will about the man, but he is
Speaker 1: a guy that will not stand for petty thievery. Uh.
Speaker 1: Here's a headline from the l A Times h Blake
Speaker 1: Bortles helps detained teen accused of trying to steal his
Speaker 1: truck Comma wallet at Jaguars party. Great headline. It all
Speaker 1: happened at a party at teammate Brandon Linder's Jacksonville Beach home.
Speaker 1: A young man by the name of Joseph Horton, eighteen
Speaker 1: years old, opened the door to Boardles truck West. I
Speaker 1: know you're truck guy, so I'll tell you the model
Speaker 1: and make it's a Ford f one fifty, very popular.
Speaker 1: I had a Dodge Ram all right, the most popular
Speaker 1: truck in the world. It certainly in this country. Pretty
Speaker 1: are you tracking one tracking the rankings? Well? I read
Speaker 1: the I read this article. How for it's given up
Speaker 1: on on you know cars? In part of it is
Speaker 1: just because their truck is by far the best selling truck.
Speaker 1: Do think vehicle that's pretty good? And is this the
Speaker 1: Is this the Picktureuck pickup Truck podcast. I didn't think
Speaker 1: we'd be hosting this, but we did it anyway. Bortles
Speaker 1: new Ford f one fifty parked in Lender's driveway and uh,
Speaker 1: the young man Joseph Horton, a teen, rummage through the
Speaker 1: truck took Bortles wallet and by the way, I was
Speaker 1: about to get on Bordals for leaving his wallet in
Speaker 1: his truck. I do that all the time. Oh, the
Speaker 1: old zeuser is always leaving his wallet on his front
Speaker 1: seat and all stupid. What's what's in your car right now?
Speaker 1: My key to my car and my car downstairs? I
Speaker 1: I I asked the gentleman in this studio, do you
Speaker 1: think it's a problem that the key to my car
Speaker 1: is just sitting in my car right now? No one
Speaker 1: seemed nervous, so I'm not either. Well, you're at yeah,
Speaker 1: you're at work. They're security. And what I did notice Sully,
Speaker 1: who was with us pre taping a video before we
Speaker 1: did this podcast. After he heard that, he didn't kind
Speaker 1: of make a quick exit. So it's joy riding like
Speaker 1: in Ferris Bueller's day off. Anyway, this kid belongs behind bars. Well,
Speaker 1: Joey Hordon, first of all, don't take stuff that's not yours.
Speaker 1: That's number one too. This kid's weird. Not only is
Speaker 1: he going through the truck, he couldn't move the truck
Speaker 1: so he actually went to the party. Eighteen kid just
Speaker 1: walks in the guy's house. The Jaguars. I admire Stones
Speaker 1: a little bit. When Winder asked Joey who he was.
Speaker 1: Horton replied joe and walked upstairs. According to the police report,
Speaker 1: Linder then realized the young man didn't belong in the house,
Speaker 1: called police, and then lendered Bortles and Jaguars guard Chris
Speaker 1: Reid um, I guess we made a citizen's arrest, if
Speaker 1: you will, On Horton, Joey h until police are did
Speaker 1: this is the part of the story I would like
Speaker 1: to see in the flesh, because it sounds, oh, it's
Speaker 1: nice that Bortles did this, but suddenly you're Joey Horton,
Speaker 1: j teen and being held in a driveway by three
Speaker 1: large NFL players. I just would like to see how
Speaker 1: that went down. I wonder if maybe Joey started to
Speaker 1: crack a sweat at that point his prank had had
Speaker 1: hit the bricks. I don't know if it was a prank,
Speaker 1: maybe a crime would be more technically. Best case scenario.
Speaker 1: He's got a little DiCaprio in him from Catch Me
Speaker 1: if you can. Worst case scenario, he's just a psycho
Speaker 1: killer exactly in training, right, He's got you know what
Speaker 1: it is when you try to steal somebody's pick up.
Speaker 1: It's the fact that he went into the party. That's
Speaker 1: really Lindsay, let's get let's trying to get Joey Horton
Speaker 1: on the show. Can you reach out to the necessary
Speaker 1: bumping Connor Ore for Joey Horton. Um, that's a spoiler
Speaker 1: alert right there, right there for later in the show.
Speaker 1: You guys never heard that. Apologies you never heard it.
Speaker 1: Moving on, John Elway, Oh yeah, John Elway. Once for John.
Speaker 1: This one's for John. This one's for John. This song,
Speaker 1: John el sees excellence, He knows excellence. And he says
Speaker 1: the Bolts, the Chargers the team to beat in the
Speaker 1: a f C West. Oh my goodness, that sounds similar
Speaker 1: to some like literally everyone in the studio. So I'll
Speaker 1: let you guys. I'll give you guys your mandatory nineties
Speaker 1: seconds to get all excited about the Chargers hit it. Well,
Speaker 1: every other team in the division has football questions. The
Speaker 1: only question surrounding the Chargers are related to the occult.
Speaker 1: Are they haunted? Like? Really? What? That's all anybody can
Speaker 1: come up with? Why for why the Chargers won't win
Speaker 1: the division? Well, they have still got still got about
Speaker 1: sixty seven seconds. Elway, He's you know, clearly a great
Speaker 1: evaluator of talent. As he said, I've been trying to
Speaker 1: pare down what are my hot takes. Here's a Charger's
Speaker 1: hot take for you. They got the deepest cornerback group
Speaker 1: in the NFL right now and the best rush. So
Speaker 1: that's what I think John Elways sees. You get Jason Verrett,
Speaker 1: Jason Verrett back to a group that was already great
Speaker 1: last year. It's as deep as any secondary. They don't
Speaker 1: have an avert weakness. I think we get that at
Speaker 1: this point. If you listen to the show. They have
Speaker 1: a quarterback that can't get a team over the humps
Speaker 1: save his life. Well, according to they're the one team
Speaker 1: with a settled quarterback. I found it interesting that after
Speaker 1: going down and chasing case Keenum that he did not
Speaker 1: mention his own team is being settled. The quarterback we love,
Speaker 1: we love to kill Eli Manning for being washed up,
Speaker 1: but that guy's got two rings once. What's Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: done in his career? I mean, the difference between the
Speaker 1: two of them is one of them is a good
Speaker 1: football player and one is two rings. Right, But that
Speaker 1: was ten years ago. What what's that got to do
Speaker 1: with mex But this This just feels like psychological warfare
Speaker 1: to me from Lay, I think he's just this is
Speaker 1: a perfect no. Well that's too I mean, of course
Speaker 1: it he morphs into an Eli Manning scenario. But it's like,
Speaker 1: this is just Lway dropping little nuggets in the middle
Speaker 1: of in the middle of May. If anything, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a slight towards the Chiefs, you know who. I
Speaker 1: know they lost their quarterback in awe and but you
Speaker 1: know I have been empty portion of their defense, not
Speaker 1: a great portion of it. They only lost guys other
Speaker 1: than Peters that they wanted to get rid of. So
Speaker 1: who did they bring in? That's so great? And it's
Speaker 1: gonna read now, I mean, they have one of their
Speaker 1: worst defense in the league, don't they. We'll see, all right,
Speaker 1: see we have to have hit ninety twos by now
Speaker 1: that's it. Okay, well you hit it. It was ten,
Speaker 1: but I wanted you guys to enjoy it. The Supreme
Speaker 1: Court big news and potentially troubling for our podcast because
Speaker 1: of Greg's past issues and struggles with addiction. The Supreme
Speaker 1: Court has struck down a law against sports gambling. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Supreme Court on Monday struck down a federal law
Speaker 1: that bars gambling on football, basketball, baseball, and other sports
Speaker 1: in most states, giving states to go ahead to legalize
Speaker 1: betting on sports. Greg, you are are betting insider, so
Speaker 1: we will throw ridiculous the Supreme Court and you could
Speaker 1: give a little more context, Greg to this rule to
Speaker 1: strike down the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act, which
Speaker 1: I know has been a thorn in your side. Grego
Speaker 1: law Bard state authorized sports gambling some exceptions. People are
Speaker 1: that are against this, including union leaders UH are really
Speaker 1: fired up about this and say it's a major concern
Speaker 1: for the league's and the future of the sports. Why Greg,
Speaker 1: why are people so upset? I I don't sense that.
Speaker 1: I don't think there are that many people that upset.
Speaker 1: I think this is a popular decision which is just
Speaker 1: legalizing UH an industry which is already making I think
Speaker 1: some sort of estimated it's like a fifty billion dollar
Speaker 1: industry under the table on some level, and it's just
Speaker 1: making it legal. I find it really interesting just how
Speaker 1: quickly the winds changed. Two thousand fifteen, Roger Goodell UH
Speaker 1: was very public in terms of how against he was
Speaker 1: UH changing some of the laws. That was the same year,
Speaker 1: I believe they stopped our friend Michael Fabriano from being
Speaker 1: part of this like fantasy convention that was in Vegas,
Speaker 1: just because it was like in Vegas. Now we have
Speaker 1: a team moving to Vegas. The law which is now
Speaker 1: it's giving the states for for people, especially outside of
Speaker 1: the US. It's allowing the states to basically choose whether
Speaker 1: they want to legalize sports gambling or not. New Jersey
Speaker 1: is gonna do it quickly. There's a bunch a few
Speaker 1: other states that will do it quickly, and it's expected
Speaker 1: that probably the majority of states will do it. You know,
Speaker 1: at some point in the next five years. It takes
Speaker 1: it takes time, but just how quickly it changed from
Speaker 1: three years ago to now there's gonna be a team there.
Speaker 1: It's essentially gonna be legal in a lot of states.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, Robert Kraft and Jerry Jones
Speaker 1: are investors in daily fantasy sports companies, which isn't you
Speaker 1: know there's a difference between that and straight up sports gambling.
Speaker 1: But now it's kind of all gonna be in the
Speaker 1: same box and it's gonna be a huge industry. It
Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit of the state by state.
Speaker 1: Um I guess groundswell at one point in terms of
Speaker 1: legalizing marijuana, and from another angle too. If you're going
Speaker 1: if you if marijuana is in your uh you know,
Speaker 1: world to do, if it's an interest of yours, you
Speaker 1: were doing it before and after it was legalized. And
Speaker 1: if you want to gamble, you were gambling before and
Speaker 1: after it's legalized in your particular state. I mean they
Speaker 1: talk about the prop bets alone that occurred at the
Speaker 1: last Super Bowl. Thousands of billions of dollars passed back
Speaker 1: and forth on bets like what color will the liquid
Speaker 1: be that has poured on the game winning coach? The
Speaker 1: answer was lime green, yellow, And I mean tons of
Speaker 1: cash are going on and these are bets be well that,
Speaker 1: but where does the problem begin around We don't. We
Speaker 1: can't understand. I just think I think the growth, the
Speaker 1: growth angle for it is big because it talked they
Speaker 1: talked about internationally. You can people that aren't watching football
Speaker 1: normally because if you're in England at what time it starts,
Speaker 1: if you are into gambling, that could change a lot.
Speaker 1: It can open new doors. So I think the league
Speaker 1: is going to ultimately smile on it because it means
Speaker 1: major cash. They can say what they want about the
Speaker 1: integrity and all that stuff, but that that door has
Speaker 1: already been blown wide open. Football is being bet on
Speaker 1: NonStop if you want to do it already. It's amazing
Speaker 1: to watch over the past three decades the country's attitude
Speaker 1: change on gambling and marijuana, the two among other things,
Speaker 1: but just to watch. I think we've all just decided
Speaker 1: that among the things we need to be scared of
Speaker 1: in life, those two don't rank very high. And it's
Speaker 1: just been amazing to watch. It's gonna change. There's a
Speaker 1: lot to unpack with it, just in how it's gonna
Speaker 1: you know, how how much do they embrace it, Like
Speaker 1: is it gonna be in the stadiums, like in the
Speaker 1: Premier League where you can do in game kind of
Speaker 1: betting and you just have like you're you're doing, Hey, well,
Speaker 1: who's gonna win, Who's gonna have the next you know,
Speaker 1: corner kick or whatever, and it's just like on an
Speaker 1: app on your phone or the team is gonna get
Speaker 1: that involved they the league. I think find it hard
Speaker 1: to believe that it will become like that. I would
Speaker 1: just say this, whether whatever the timeframe is down the road,
Speaker 1: the same way that we quarter by quarter tweet and
Speaker 1: tout fantasy stars when that first all that's that's just commonplace.
Speaker 1: None of that was happening fifteen twenty years ago at all.
Speaker 1: It seems so alien the idea that like someone can
Speaker 1: win that a million, two million, three and a million
Speaker 1: dollars switches hands because so and so scored the team
Speaker 1: X scored a touchdown drive in under two minutes, and
Speaker 1: people were betting at the start of the kickoff at
Speaker 1: each one of those things. If there's still a kickoff,
Speaker 1: like that's going to become just as big of a
Speaker 1: deal as fantasy. The confusion in the league's I think
Speaker 1: are have already started to ask, you know, Congress for
Speaker 1: is that if it's not legal in every state, then
Speaker 1: how did they come up with kind of a uniform
Speaker 1: policy of how the league is handling it. But but
Speaker 1: either way, it's going to change, like advertising is gonna
Speaker 1: change a lot. But everything's cool with you. Nothing's changed
Speaker 1: for me. I work for the NFL. You are not allowed,
Speaker 1: uh to bet on football, And it's true, not too
Speaker 1: well before I worked at the NFL. I just signed
Speaker 1: my compliance papers and absolutely it is a no go. Finally,
Speaker 1: in the news Rob Gronkowski, the Patriots ted end, turns
Speaker 1: twenty nine years old today, so the final year of
Speaker 1: grons twenties. You can't say that Gronk didn't make the
Speaker 1: most of his twenties. Let's be honest. A couple of
Speaker 1: stats for you UH stat heads out there, most receiving
Speaker 1: touchdowns by age twenty nine, Gronk third on the all
Speaker 1: time list. Who's ahead of him, boys Randy Moss and
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice Corrackt correct and UH one thing to keep
Speaker 1: in mind as he approaches age thirty, Gronk has appeared
Speaker 1: UH in just two sixteen game seasons in his whole career.
Speaker 1: So he's had health problems it happens every year, but
Speaker 1: when he's on the field, he remains dominant. We'll see
Speaker 1: if he can stay on the field as he starts
Speaker 1: to get a little bit older, or if he's going
Speaker 1: to choose to stay on the field, because we know
Speaker 1: he already fled to retirement once earlier. This officer. You
Speaker 1: look at Tony Gonzalez, he had eight seasons starting with
Speaker 1: his age thirty season from beyond age twenty nine and
Speaker 1: essentially dominant through all of them in terms of number
Speaker 1: of catches all he was used in the offense. If
Speaker 1: Gronk wants to keep being called the best tight end
Speaker 1: of all time, he can't just hang it up in
Speaker 1: two years. I don't think that would be my guest.
Speaker 1: I know, I think he even cares. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he cares or not. But it's
Speaker 1: just like there there is there's history of longevity at
Speaker 1: that position. All right, go ahead, you sure. I went
Speaker 1: to say that for the better part of a decade,
Speaker 1: he's been one of the top ten players in the NFL.
Speaker 1: That is amazing for a tight end. If he never
Speaker 1: played another game, he's in the Hall of thing. Yes,
Speaker 1: he's that level. Yeah of talent. And if you can
Speaker 1: do that before he turned thirty, you've had a special career.
Speaker 1: All right. That's what's happening in the news. All right. So,
Speaker 1: as we've mentioned, and if you go to NFL dot com,
Speaker 1: you're aware Greg has been cranking out content NFL dot
Speaker 1: Com slash projected Starters. You go through Greg, let the
Speaker 1: listeners are. You're going through each team and basically projecting
Speaker 1: what the Week one lineup is going to be the
Speaker 1: All twenty two if you will, that's it. Basically choosing
Speaker 1: who's gonna get the most snaps uh from each team's lineup.
Speaker 1: So you know, in today's NFL sometimes it's only two
Speaker 1: defensive lineman or two linebackers. It's you know, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of guys in the secondary on
Speaker 1: the field. But basically just picking up your starting lineup's
Speaker 1: not too complicated and then some little notes, some some
Speaker 1: little thoughts. The people like it, I don't know, do
Speaker 1: you like crazy about it? I like I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it as an exercise. It's almost it's a
Speaker 1: selfish exercise. I like it as just a way to
Speaker 1: kind of study up on all the teams and then
Speaker 1: you get a better picture. And it's all just kind
Speaker 1: of sits in your nog and going into the seat.
Speaker 1: I mean, other people are there's entertainment being brought to
Speaker 1: it to others and in knowledge, so it's not totally
Speaker 1: selfish that it is. Hopefully it's a win win. It's
Speaker 1: also the middle of May, so there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of news to talk about, and so this is you know,
Speaker 1: this way, I can like look at it and start thinking, wow,
Speaker 1: that raiders secondary looks there, right, So it obviously serves
Speaker 1: a purpose for you personally, but the content itself, it
Speaker 1: does serve a purpose for the audience and the people
Speaker 1: that want to learn more about their teams and the
Speaker 1: other football heads like it. Yeah, Like, I think it
Speaker 1: takes on a level of dorky nous to really want
Speaker 1: to dive deep into this in May. But there's a
Speaker 1: lot of people like that, especially on you know that
Speaker 1: read NFL dot com in May. So some would say
Speaker 1: it's a it's a niche type of column, but if
Speaker 1: you do live in that niche, you love it. Every year,
Speaker 1: it's like the baseball fans reading Bill James. There you go.
Speaker 1: I mean, the topening tagline says it all. Greg Rosenthal
Speaker 1: will project post draft starting lineups for all thirty two
Speaker 1: teams dash dash called an m dash by the one
Speaker 1: internally because that's his idea of fun. Oh there you go.
Speaker 1: I like that. That's an important because it's myself. Just
Speaker 1: be aware. This is a little nerdy. But if you're
Speaker 1: into this, you're into it. You are into it. So
Speaker 1: I feel like what we have is a perfect marriage here.
Speaker 1: We have content that not only getting Greg smarter and
Speaker 1: making him more knowledgeable, it's making the eat er more
Speaker 1: knowledgeable and smarter about the game. I feel, do we
Speaker 1: have like time to fill or something? This is like,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're checking every possible box. Silly, I know,
Speaker 1: like suddenly has like two hours to spin on one story.
Speaker 1: And all right, and so that said, so now you
Speaker 1: understand what the segment, what what that? What that story
Speaker 1: and these stories are all about. But what makes a
Speaker 1: provocative hot take? Now you're taking You're gonna take something
Speaker 1: but at its base is a niche type of article,
Speaker 1: but you're gonna you're gonna pull out of it a
Speaker 1: real provocative hot take that even you know, the guys
Speaker 1: that don't exist in the lab and I don't know
Speaker 1: what that's like, not to be in a lab anymore.
Speaker 1: But the guys that are up in the kitchen, they're interested.
Speaker 1: So Greg's gonna give us five and then I guess
Speaker 1: we will decide, we, being Mark West and myself, whether
Speaker 1: it is a true hot take. Some of these, some
Speaker 1: of these are more just yeah observations than uh than necessarily.
Speaker 1: I'll try, I'll try to pick the hottest takes possible.
Speaker 1: How about this one? Marvin Lewis is not an idiot. Well,
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis is an idiot. If nothing, if nothing else,
Speaker 1: just one little factory they had looking at this, uh
Speaker 1: these projected starters, was that the Bengals only have two
Speaker 1: players projected to start that are from another organization, and
Speaker 1: one of those is Preston Brown, who might not even
Speaker 1: you know, be on the field more than of the time.
Speaker 1: And it just got me thinking, like, the Bengals head
Speaker 1: coaching job is just different than every other head coaching job.
Speaker 1: You're asked to do things in terms of drafting and
Speaker 1: developing and just hey, we're gonna draft you guys your players,
Speaker 1: and then we're just gonna keep the players and those
Speaker 1: are basically the players you're gonna you're gonna play with.
Speaker 1: And and there's a lot of reasons why the Bengals
Speaker 1: job is not like like others, but it just made me.
Speaker 1: It reminded me that Marvin Lewis is not in how
Speaker 1: about that this was what what's the Around the Horn
Speaker 1: show on ESPN Around the Horn. I wouldn't have given
Speaker 1: him any any points, really because it was a tepid
Speaker 1: take at first, but the point about him being asked
Speaker 1: to do this organization is not like any organization. He
Speaker 1: really does have to do the scouting. His coaching staff
Speaker 1: has to do a lot of stuff that people other
Speaker 1: people scouting departments do. I'm conflicted about Marvin Lewis. I mean,
Speaker 1: Mark's right, sometimes he's an idiot. Well that you're dropped
Speaker 1: from three. That drop is not like Evergreen, despite it
Speaker 1: being played NonStop. Some people actually think that that's me
Speaker 1: saying it live on the show. I got asked that question.
Speaker 1: It is not. It is a It is an old take.
Speaker 1: We we just like point at Mark in a certain
Speaker 1: I'll give the Bengals credit because when they did go
Speaker 1: out and get one player out from outside the organization,
Speaker 1: it's somewhat self corrected the Andrew Whitworth departure from a
Speaker 1: year ago. When you go out and get Corty Glenn
Speaker 1: at a position where that offensive line was their undoing
Speaker 1: last year. So that was a smart thing. But you're
Speaker 1: but I would say, even into two or three seasons
Speaker 1: in a row, we would point to the Bengals and say,
Speaker 1: no other team in the a f C has the
Speaker 1: level of talent that the Bengals do, but they simply
Speaker 1: don't get it done when the games happen. So positive
Speaker 1: to Marvin Lewis for overseeing that, but then the game's
Speaker 1: happen and where is Marvin Lewis, Who's going to give
Speaker 1: you that hot January where suddenly the Bengals live up
Speaker 1: to their talent. Marvin Lewis too, and this isn't the
Speaker 1: most talented Bengals team that we've seen, but there's potential.
Speaker 1: There is I think the ceiling for this team if
Speaker 1: things go right. And including that Corty Glenn trade, you
Speaker 1: know they only have two guys that I projected as
Speaker 1: started from other organizations. Well, Glenn is one of the
Speaker 1: most important guys on the whole team, and they made
Speaker 1: that was a nice trade. I think they didn't give
Speaker 1: up much to do that. But ultimately, but if they
Speaker 1: could have resigned Andrew Witworth, I'll say one thing, like
Speaker 1: a year later, you give up a lot to get
Speaker 1: Corty Glenn in terms of you could have just resigned
Speaker 1: your own guy who played at a high level for
Speaker 1: the Rams last year and probably helped, like one of
Speaker 1: the guys to turn that offense around. So please, So
Speaker 1: your final take on Marvin Lewis, Well, Marvin Lewis is
Speaker 1: an idiot that can change. You just keep saying it's well,
Speaker 1: Marvin Lewis is an idiot, all right, all right, we
Speaker 1: get by the way sixteenth season. That is crazy. That's
Speaker 1: why it's a job like no other. It is. Well,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of reasons, but that one above all else,
Speaker 1: that you can stay in the NFL, never go to
Speaker 1: a super Bowl, never really playoff run, never win a
Speaker 1: playoff game, period and enter your sixteenth season. There are
Speaker 1: thirty one other organizations where that would not fly. Another,
Speaker 1: you're not an idiot if you can pull that off
Speaker 1: the spot. There's They had also reminded me doing this
Speaker 1: projected starters thing that you know, Vinny Ray Vincent Ray
Speaker 1: is projected start for Vonta's perfect while he you know,
Speaker 1: fulfills this suspension. And I was thinking, it's really he
Speaker 1: is the only designated suspension filler in the entire league.
Speaker 1: Every year I do this projected starters, He's starting in
Speaker 1: week one for Vonta's perfect to suspend it. It's not like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we keep him around just to just be good for
Speaker 1: like two to four weeks every year and you'll you'll
Speaker 1: keep getting paychecks. All right? That was I think that's
Speaker 1: pretty good hot take though, because good start of a
Speaker 1: lot of what I didn't know these are going to
Speaker 1: be created on a level of ten. What what's the
Speaker 1: heat on that one? He saved at the end, I'll
Speaker 1: give it a good solid seven and a half. Seven
Speaker 1: and a half. Uhn, we get some fire. Okay, there
Speaker 1: we go, next provocative take, hopefully hot. All right, well,
Speaker 1: this one I'm gonna combine. I'm gonna combine too, just
Speaker 1: to make it even even hotter. The flame, the flame.
Speaker 1: Just looking at the rosters, here we go. The Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills have the worst offensive roster in the league, and
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts have the worst defensive roster in the league. Okay,
Speaker 1: combining him too. Would you like me to score that, right?
Speaker 1: I mean, if that'll give me a break. Everybody knows
Speaker 1: the Bills have the worst offensive You could be right,
Speaker 1: but also provided you're right, there's thirty one other teams, though,
Speaker 1: the Cults, especially teams are I feel like it's the
Speaker 1: third year in a row where you look at the
Speaker 1: Colts defense and you're like, who's the guy you'd put
Speaker 1: on the ticket or the game program from the defense?
Speaker 1: Name a cornerback for the Indianapolis Cult. It's an ever
Speaker 1: churning list of no names. So I cannot Pierre to
Speaker 1: see here is like their best cornercast that's not a
Speaker 1: real name. He is not their best quarterback, and they
Speaker 1: they will believe that Quincy Wilson who they think? Right,
Speaker 1: I was saying who they who actually is their best quarterback,
Speaker 1: not the guy they benched his entire rookie season. Um.
Speaker 1: So what you're saying, though, even though it's not necessarily provided,
Speaker 1: means I think that's provocative because there's a whole field
Speaker 1: out there of other decay. I get that, but that's
Speaker 1: all you said. But like when you went through this exercise,
Speaker 1: those of you were like, whoa this really? This really
Speaker 1: is a bad situation for both teams. Maybe Chris Ballard
Speaker 1: sees something in his building, something what's your favorite type
Speaker 1: of frog that we don't totally get yet. You know,
Speaker 1: he's got a new defensive coordinator, a totally new system there.
Speaker 1: You know, not many people could name their defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: Matt ever, Plus I don't even know how to pronounce
Speaker 1: Luster has been with Dallas for the last few years.
Speaker 1: Luster is not a nickname you want us to football
Speaker 1: coach decordinator. He's already got a nickname on this Tom
Speaker 1: Brady is cost mid field. What they're going to do
Speaker 1: about it. It's like sweating profusely, like trying to get
Speaker 1: into hint the exits, but like the nickname takes on
Speaker 1: a new meanings the opposing quarter. I think they've got
Speaker 1: a better I think there's some things their offensive lines better.
Speaker 1: You know, there's some things on offense to be excited about. Defense,
Speaker 1: it's like who not only is just who's your best player?
Speaker 1: Like who could possibly make a Pro Bowl? Let's say
Speaker 1: out of the Colts, what do you think of the Cooker? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Lee Cooker, Yeah if your best very high on him
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, but he's coming off in a c
Speaker 1: L And that's your one guy who has potentially made
Speaker 1: a good point about the Cults offense. Where it was
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck came into the league and had, you know,
Speaker 1: as Peyton Manning did before him, a wealth of wide
Speaker 1: receiver and receiving talent in general around him. And now
Speaker 1: it's the line, which we've killed for half a decade.
Speaker 1: Is improved in the wide receiver talent not so much.
Speaker 1: And and I guess the Bills. The thing that struck
Speaker 1: me about them is just most teams it's like they
Speaker 1: either that you don't have like an offensive line that
Speaker 1: looks terrible on paper and a skill position group that
Speaker 1: kind of looks bad on paper. But the Bills have both.
Speaker 1: I mean they got Lashawn McCoy intend kind of question marks.
Speaker 1: They could have the worst offensive line, worst wide receiver corps,
Speaker 1: and worst quarterback room in the NFL. I was down
Speaker 1: in the lab over the weekend, Uh, watching some film
Speaker 1: of DJ White, not on Saturday, you weren't. I think
Speaker 1: you could do some I think he did some work
Speaker 1: in the slot J White. I mean, if we're gonna
Speaker 1: kill it's a White what I don't have him on
Speaker 1: an actual DJ To be fair to like Dolphins fans
Speaker 1: their offense, I would take in two seconds over anything
Speaker 1: that's happening in Buffalo right now. It's completely much more
Speaker 1: solid in that own division. Absolutely, look DJ White right there,
Speaker 1: he's gonna work make his way right up there. Oh
Speaker 1: he's a fourth string weeks I had lined what else
Speaker 1: he got? Greg, Well, you gotta keep this move. We've
Speaker 1: got a special guest coming up soon. Okay, Well this
Speaker 1: isn't really Uh. If I like Colleen Wolf, I don't
Speaker 1: think I understood you know the function of this second
Speaker 1: Colleen gets tragged in. That's it's just like whatever. Uh
Speaker 1: uh the Giants. I don't know if you guys, you
Speaker 1: haven't dived into fantasy strategy dance quite as much, um
Speaker 1: you know, through the years theories and stuff, But it
Speaker 1: used to be a popular fantasy strategy stars and Scrubs
Speaker 1: that was ever heard, especially like an auction drafts. You know,
Speaker 1: Stars and scrubs. You spend a lot of money on
Speaker 1: the Stars, spend your spend your less on the scrubs.
Speaker 1: That's the only way to play a right exactly. That's
Speaker 1: that's the thought the Giants. The Giants are the Stars
Speaker 1: and Scrubs team of the NFL. Because you look at
Speaker 1: I love her the dusk colleague, You're done. Stars and Scrubs.
Speaker 1: Very nice? You got you know, you got Genorris Jenkins,
Speaker 1: you got Snacks Harrison, you, Olivier Vernon and who else
Speaker 1: am I forgetting? On their defense that that could be
Speaker 1: great Land and Collins. I mean, those are some stars,
Speaker 1: but then you kind of look at the other spots
Speaker 1: and you really don't know. Then you look at their offense.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a better combination of a
Speaker 1: running back two young receivers and tight end in the
Speaker 1: league in terms of young fun talent than see Quon Barkley,
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham, Sterling Shepherd and Evan Ingram. You love yourself
Speaker 1: some Ingram to do. I love and I love Shepherd
Speaker 1: and so the four of them. But then you look
Speaker 1: at the rest of the the offense and it's like, huh,
Speaker 1: like people are people are penciling and Cody Latimer, They're like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's their slot receiver. They sign him, Like what the Broncos.
Speaker 1: He couldn't get on the field for the Broncos for
Speaker 1: four years. They don't have anyone. I like it. This
Speaker 1: is a great take, Dan, Who are Chad Wheeler and
Speaker 1: Patrick a mom a they are giants offensive lineman. Actually
Speaker 1: nice That's who's starting on the right side of their line.
Speaker 1: And everyone says this is really improved, nicely done. They
Speaker 1: have a bad line sto question mark and soldiers got
Speaker 1: to be healthy and play like Nates. Nobody mentions the
Speaker 1: other three guys. It's just Nates Souter and Will Hernandez
Speaker 1: every time. Yeah, and it could be Eric Flowers who
Speaker 1: did return to the team. They tried to trade him.
Speaker 1: I didn't project him as a starter just because I don't.
Speaker 1: We'll see, we'll see what happens like if he sticks
Speaker 1: with the team. The one thing with offensive lines and
Speaker 1: even defenses. To be fair with indianapos, sometimes the coaching change,
Speaker 1: they're tough to predict, you know what I'm saying. All Right,
Speaker 1: that's good, Greg, you got your dignity back there. Now
Speaker 1: we're gonna close strong. How about one more? You got
Speaker 1: one more? You don't even have to add a home run.
Speaker 1: You already hit a home run, so you're kind of
Speaker 1: playing with round will double right here? All right, I
Speaker 1: can chop up the middle. The Jacksonville Jaguars are one
Speaker 1: of the most stable franchises in the NFL. You know,
Speaker 1: you don't really think of them that way, but when
Speaker 1: you look at all the players returning, how how little
Speaker 1: turnover they have on in terms of their starting lineup,
Speaker 1: they basically don't have any position battles almost except for
Speaker 1: maybe the receiver position. It's a stable even with the
Speaker 1: Joe Horton incident over the week. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it looks like last year's roster basically, yeah, and yet
Speaker 1: I feel like a team the team. A lot of
Speaker 1: people are diging as well. Listen like this is a
Speaker 1: nice season at all, but just not gonna happen again.
Speaker 1: I mean, why are we looking at them as someone
Speaker 1: that can't get back to the a f C champions.
Speaker 1: Everybody the quarterback, right, and that's why the grade isn't eight,
Speaker 1: because it's an it's an original concept, but I gotta
Speaker 1: take two points off for the same reason I take
Speaker 1: points off for the Jaguars organization ten to eight or
Speaker 1: from eight to six. No, it isn't a It would
Speaker 1: have been a ten for the originality of the concept.
Speaker 1: But you gotta dock points because Greg has the same
Speaker 1: flaw as the Jaguars. He doesn't believe the quarterback counts
Speaker 1: in the stable factor and it's like it's important at
Speaker 1: every position. Just he said it. Just it was consistent,
Speaker 1: and I think it is the most unstable quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league. You're saying but in terms of roster churn
Speaker 1: over though, right, But if you're if you're franchise quarterback
Speaker 1: is un stable, your entire organization is. I agree with that,
Speaker 1: but I think that more answers my question about why
Speaker 1: we're downgrading them. Greg's conceit was that they have not
Speaker 1: had turnover and they've had no turnover at quarterback. All right, Tony,
Speaker 1: reality just gave I'll be the reality around here. And
Speaker 1: stable has several meanings. We're using all of them, all right.
Speaker 1: They just gave West two points. Remember remember when we
Speaker 1: used to have the stable the West's West had his stable,
Speaker 1: stable of boys, table of boys. That's what it was.
Speaker 1: That was like the mark Ingram year. I think, well,
Speaker 1: my goodness, how time has flown. Greg, you've done it again.
Speaker 1: You wrote an incredible um banger, a series of bangers.
Speaker 1: So check it out, especially if you're a football nerd.
Speaker 1: But now that you're in, I'm sure your curiosity must
Speaker 1: be peaked a little bit. You' say, wait a second,
Speaker 1: I am I want to consider myself a football nerd.
Speaker 1: But I really enjoyed that segment, and I feel like
Speaker 1: Greg knows what he's talking about. Let me dive in.
Speaker 1: We just got a whole new demographic that could be
Speaker 1: coming to your content. Yeah, come at me, Come with me,
Speaker 1: Come come at become with me, either or as long
Speaker 1: as you move the needle into the singularity. All right, now,
Speaker 1: you may have already heard a little slip of the
Speaker 1: tongue from the sizzler, but that's not a big deal.
Speaker 1: I meane, if it was a big deal, we would
Speaker 1: have cut it out of the show. But we said,
Speaker 1: what the hell, let's leave it in the show. I
Speaker 1: thought it was appropriate. I'm like, I thought what I
Speaker 1: did was appropriate. It was a tea. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: a little hint. It was a little hint. You know.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. I don't want people to feel like
Speaker 1: when they find out, oh, there's a big surprise, then
Speaker 1: the surprise is revealed, being like m hmm, a little underwhelmed.
Speaker 1: This way, I prevent anyone feeling that way about our guests.
Speaker 1: And then they said that I knew this was coming,
Speaker 1: and I couldn't be happier. Although it's hard to imagine
Speaker 1: anyone feeling that right, And I don't know how people
Speaker 1: your mind went there. I don't know how people feel.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not it's you know, it's not like
Speaker 1: the Heat and Slight podcast. It's it's like the Hard
Speaker 1: Knocks video of the dance contest of the guy goes
Speaker 1: running across the room. All right, here we go, Bernard Pollard.
Speaker 1: Let's button down now from around the NFL podcast line
Speaker 1: direct to a haunted mansion in New Jersey. Yes, he
Speaker 1: is a man who once upon a time, single guy,
Speaker 1: a young beat reporter, kid on the rise, and then
Speaker 1: life intruded. Yeah, serious, journal, it was time to get married,
Speaker 1: and then it was time to get the mortgage, and
Speaker 1: then it was time to have the kid. And now
Speaker 1: here we are in two thousand and eighteen, Connor Or
Speaker 1: with a beautiful, healthy baby girl in the home. And
Speaker 1: guess what that means. Even though there's a kid in
Speaker 1: the house, connor Or has to get things off his chest.
Speaker 1: So let's start though, by just saying hello to Connor.
Speaker 1: It's been a while. We had that little mishap. Wher
Speaker 1: you got escorted out of Lucas Oil Stadium at the Combine.
Speaker 1: So you're you're no longer detained by security there apparently?
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean I would I would certainly suggest
Speaker 1: that there's at least some sort of a tap a
Speaker 1: phone tap situation going on, But you guys all know
Speaker 1: that working for the league, that's pretty standard. Obviously. Obviously,
Speaker 1: how are you, buddy, because we miss you obviously now
Speaker 1: that you're over at the mm QB. But your life
Speaker 1: has changed now, Yeah, you know, it's uh, I'm a dad,
Speaker 1: which is uh congratulations. Yeah, you know, everything is good.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out now how to be like
Speaker 1: you know, you want to be like the ultimate dad
Speaker 1: and uh you know that's it's it's it's mind blowing,
Speaker 1: Like you know that she's not old enough yet where
Speaker 1: I can like go over the top with wild gifts
Speaker 1: and stuff. So I have to be like the dad
Speaker 1: who understands how to, uh to to have her talk
Speaker 1: faster than anyone else or walk fast than anyone else.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do that right now. Those alright, So
Speaker 1: there you go. That that gives that gives you a
Speaker 1: basic idea of what where Connor's head is out right now.
Speaker 1: But as you know, when we have Connor on, we
Speaker 1: we give him a form to get things off his chest.
Speaker 1: And just because he's a new dad, it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: there's no longer any issues in his life. In fact,
Speaker 1: it might be the opposite. So with Connor back amongst us,
Speaker 1: let us now bring it on back with another edition
Speaker 1: of or you kidding Me? What's Grinding? New Gears? Connor?
Speaker 1: I missed that music. Um, I would say, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's the funniest thing to me, Like after after
Speaker 1: you have a kid. Everyone says, well, I used to
Speaker 1: come over and I have to I have to hold
Speaker 1: the baby, and it's like, why it belongs to me?
Speaker 1: It's not it's not something that you have. So you know,
Speaker 1: why why are you doing this? Hands off the property.
Speaker 1: It's mine. I created it with my wife. So in
Speaker 1: other words, you don't like the idea that your baby,
Speaker 1: this beautiful thing that you created with your wife, is
Speaker 1: now type of toy to be passed back and forth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not like. It's not like when you got an
Speaker 1: Xbox when you're a little and everybody came over and
Speaker 1: you know, you had multiple controllers. This is like, you know,
Speaker 1: this is one this is one thing that's like only
Speaker 1: used to a very certain environment. And now you know,
Speaker 1: like distant relatives from from the great Beyond have showed
Speaker 1: up now to to touch this kid, and I haven't
Speaker 1: seen them any years, you know, So that you don't
Speaker 1: like that. You'd rather be more insular. This is a
Speaker 1: special moment, this new family structure. You don't need outsiders
Speaker 1: coming in to encroach on your territory. Yeah, I'm building.
Speaker 1: I'm building a fence front and backyard, and then we're
Speaker 1: just going to kind of just give some certain people
Speaker 1: to code, and then that's my haunted mansion is turning
Speaker 1: into a compound. Anything else grind any years right now
Speaker 1: ascertained that this rant is similar to an episode of Seinfeld,
Speaker 1: who you famously brought up a segment very fair point
Speaker 1: um as one of the least funny shows ever, this
Speaker 1: very segment ironic. Oh uh, well, if that is a
Speaker 1: similar bit, then I have gotten not I've gotten none funny.
Speaker 1: All I'd say is Connor's I mean the Seinfeld one
Speaker 1: was going over, going over and seeing the baby. Connor,
Speaker 1: you seem to be anti human contact. You don't want
Speaker 1: your baby being touched by people that you consider not
Speaker 1: inner circle. Yeah, you know what the best part of
Speaker 1: it was, right like sush is born, I got to
Speaker 1: I got to sit in this like in this enclosed
Speaker 1: space in the hospital. And then when the nurse said
Speaker 1: when when when you have people come over, I'll I'll
Speaker 1: draw the blind and they can point and wave and
Speaker 1: there's like eight inch to plexiglass in between, and that's
Speaker 1: totally perfect. And so I'm just gonna try to do
Speaker 1: a similar setup over here, you know. Uh So it
Speaker 1: does seem like this is all pointing towards you being
Speaker 1: one of those And I don't mean this in a
Speaker 1: negative way, but a cliche overly protective father of your
Speaker 1: little girl? Is that? Is that where we're heading here?
Speaker 1: You know what? Uh? I would say, yes, I mean
Speaker 1: like ideally like that, But you have to have some
Speaker 1: sort of like you know, every dad that I've run
Speaker 1: into this like that down the road, Like you have
Speaker 1: to have some sort of intimidating sort of outward features.
Speaker 1: You have to look like the guy from like Orange
Speaker 1: County Choppers in order to do that, because you don't
Speaker 1: miss with my daughter. But I look like, you know,
Speaker 1: like fat ted Cruise with a beard, And I can't
Speaker 1: really you know, I can't really feel like, hey, you'll
Speaker 1: pick up. My kids will be like yeah, whatever, you know,
Speaker 1: and they'll probably pick up, for no one is intimidated
Speaker 1: by Ted crew. But I look, uh, is there anything
Speaker 1: else that you want to say? Were you kidding me?
Speaker 1: I guess if I could? There you go Evelyn Marie
Speaker 1: or whoa emo for short? How about that? Congratulations to
Speaker 1: you and the wife who did most of the work.
Speaker 1: Let's be honest here, Connor did some work. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? I was I was a source of
Speaker 1: steady encouragement and uh, and I drove ten miles an
Speaker 1: hour in the lay home with my four ways, So
Speaker 1: that was my contribution to the whole thing. Oh that's sweet.
Speaker 1: Congratulations Connor. You've you've always been the most mature one
Speaker 1: of us. Really makes sense, very nice, leading to my
Speaker 1: inevitable early breaking point right to be like, wow, like
Speaker 1: they're gonna have like the Save the Connor special on
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast. That would be amazing. Just
Speaker 1: easy on the accelerator with the protective dad bit because
Speaker 1: she will rebel like crazy. And I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: speak from experience, but I've seen a lot of TV movies.
Speaker 1: I'll let my wife know all right that the podcast
Speaker 1: Gang Way did. All right, Connor, we miss you and uh,
Speaker 1: continued greatness over at s I all right, see you guys.
Speaker 1: There you go, Connor or new Dad. We're all dads,
Speaker 1: Zephyr West. Just a matter of time. There he hit
Speaker 1: on one thing. Yeah, the I will say the scariest,
Speaker 1: one of the scariest events of life was like when
Speaker 1: Luke and Colton and I'm sure you would agree to
Speaker 1: something they are like two days old. You're putting them
Speaker 1: in the backseat of a car. And then it's like
Speaker 1: the task is to drive to your house in insane
Speaker 1: l a traffic and highway nonsense without anything bad happening.
Speaker 1: Well there's that. And also and I don't think you
Speaker 1: dealt with this mark, but uh we did the C
Speaker 1: section route. So you also have a wife that is
Speaker 1: had major surgery essentially, and hitting bumps or anything like
Speaker 1: that is not only something that would get her upset,
Speaker 1: it could actually lead to an issue where you have
Speaker 1: to go back to the hospital. So it is a
Speaker 1: highly stressed, a loaded moment of stress. But there's also
Speaker 1: and I say this and all kidding asidewes, something to
Speaker 1: look forward to in life if if you do go
Speaker 1: down this road, one of the best feelings in the
Speaker 1: world is the first time you get to the house
Speaker 1: with your new baby. That's the good stuff. All right.
Speaker 1: We will be back on Wednesday, and it will be
Speaker 1: the return every year. It's an annual thing. We need
Speaker 1: to always check in and make sure it's updated as
Speaker 1: we enter a new season. The Dalton scale calibrated for UH,
Speaker 1: so make sure the scientists are gonna have their their
Speaker 1: pens and their pads out. And uh also you know
Speaker 1: Mark and I I still view myself as a guy
Speaker 1: upstairs in the kitchen hang out with Mark. You're not
Speaker 1: the only one walking shop and uh and uh. So
Speaker 1: we will recalibrate the Dalton scale figure out who is
Speaker 1: the Primaryinni and ridian of NFL quarterbacks if it is
Speaker 1: still Andy Dalton. So there's a little cliffhanger for you.
Speaker 1: Until then, this is Dan Hansens signing off for a
Speaker 1: quiet storm. The mailman, the old boss, Lindsay folked on
Speaker 1: behind the glass, who are you kidding me? Till Wednesday