Speaker 1: Bardo hands, do some Mr Fancy Fans. The plans need
Speaker 1: in the film needs is the chance. It's a t
Speaker 1: L round like a flame, boys, pig skins hot tonight,
Speaker 1: Good afternoon, everybody, How are you today? Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast, A t L to make Club Takeover.
Speaker 1: Dan Hans is here along with longtime partner podcast partner
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. What's up? Mark? How are you? I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: this is the only way to handle this show. You think, Oh,
Speaker 1: Gregg and West are on their little vacation to the
Speaker 1: Carolinas and Georgia. Have a nice time with yourselves island
Speaker 1: to tie the island that we would that we would
Speaker 1: probably out of fear in terms of running the whole show,
Speaker 1: have to stack the room with other guests, you know,
Speaker 1: people down from the New No, no, no no, it is
Speaker 1: the two of us. It is the two of us
Speaker 1: and nobody else's fearless, fearless and uh yeah you heard
Speaker 1: that at the very top of a little nod there
Speaker 1: to Mike and the Mad Dog of w F a
Speaker 1: n fame. I grew up in New York, Mark, you
Speaker 1: spent many years in Connecticut, and uh, I for one,
Speaker 1: and I think you agree, Mark would not be sitting
Speaker 1: here now doing this if it weren't for the Fan,
Speaker 1: which is New York's sports talk radio station. Uh so,
Speaker 1: maybe in honor of it just being the two of us,
Speaker 1: a little Mike and the mad Dog type show on
Speaker 1: this beautiful Friday in uh southern California. The only way
Speaker 1: to do it. I mean, yeah, I I think that
Speaker 1: there were flocks of young men, uh back in the day,
Speaker 1: all my friends. I would literally listen to Mike and
Speaker 1: the mad Dog the entire show every day and then
Speaker 1: just keep f A on f N on in my
Speaker 1: room all night long, waking up at like three in
Speaker 1: the morning to Posso our New Jersey Devil's updates Islanders Rangers.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's no reason we would be here
Speaker 1: without them. I hope A W F A N. Please
Speaker 1: don't come at us for the musical rights there. We're
Speaker 1: just doing you a solid. Yeah. Well, we'll see how
Speaker 1: that plays out. And uh yeah, Mike and the Mad
Speaker 1: Dog one to six thirty and then uh during drivetime
Speaker 1: and then as a Jet fan and it was especially
Speaker 1: cathartic and um uh after Sunday nights. Joe ben Ingo,
Speaker 1: who is a die hard Jets fan would do the
Speaker 1: overnight shifts, and if you were Jet fan, that was
Speaker 1: the place for Catharsis because you would lay in bed
Speaker 1: at night and I would have school the next morning,
Speaker 1: but I would wait for him to come on at
Speaker 1: one uh and then listen to him Bemoan whatever failure. Uh,
Speaker 1: Gang Green had gone through hours earlier and he became
Speaker 1: That kind of made Beningo's career. Now he's working day
Speaker 1: shifts for fan, but UH, for me, that's a major
Speaker 1: part from an NFL perspective of the fan is job
Speaker 1: and then go overnight. He won that job off a contest. Correct.
Speaker 1: And I mean the one thing about did you ever
Speaker 1: call into Mike and the Mad Dog or any of these?
Speaker 1: I did a couple overnight calls, but never never called
Speaker 1: the Big Show. I often because you could. It's I
Speaker 1: think I got into Mike and the mad Dog once. Um,
Speaker 1: and it was to ask a rumor. I had a
Speaker 1: friend at the time named John Powers, and I and
Speaker 1: I we were in his basement. I said, let me
Speaker 1: get on Mike and the Mad Dog here and I said, guys,
Speaker 1: I'm very wasn't easy to get through. Oh no, you're
Speaker 1: weight you're online for like an hour and forty five minutes, um,
Speaker 1: and it's long distance calls back then. And I basically asked,
Speaker 1: mad Dog, you know, I'm hearing hot rumors out of
Speaker 1: Cleveland that this guy John Powers has taken over as
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator of the Browns. I'm gonna hang up and
Speaker 1: listen to your thoughts on this. And they were totally
Speaker 1: baffled and had no idea where to go with it
Speaker 1: because they were NFL guys, but they weren't Like the
Speaker 1: scenery was different back then. You didn't have anything to
Speaker 1: log on too and find out who this guy was. Like,
Speaker 1: I got nothing on this John Powers character. So I'm
Speaker 1: surprised you didn't get told off, you know, Francis that
Speaker 1: you lost and you didn't get a hang up, But
Speaker 1: I as you got off before I could get ugly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they dispatched of the they quickly went to
Speaker 1: the next caller. You know, there was they had no
Speaker 1: content to offer, So you disrespected the show that we're
Speaker 1: speaking so highly of. Basically, Yeah, now that I think
Speaker 1: about it, Uh, yes, that probably that probably is true. Um.
Speaker 1: All right, So with that out of the way, Mark
Speaker 1: is going on vacation beginning. Uh, at the end of
Speaker 1: this podcast, I believe you might already be there emotionally, uh, Mark,
Speaker 1: and you are you doing anything during your time? I
Speaker 1: know that the myth building of the last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks and months is that I'm, you know, right on
Speaker 1: a plane heading somewhere uh you know nice, and I'm
Speaker 1: doing literally nothing. Literally it is. It is not only
Speaker 1: a staycation, it's one where you know, because as a
Speaker 1: data of my own little personal bank account that is
Speaker 1: and I and little is the operative word where I
Speaker 1: can go do things like even that is so far
Speaker 1: down in the dredges that it's like, I'm not even
Speaker 1: sure what we're I'll be going. I'll be going into
Speaker 1: like grocery stores and buying like a cent like loaf
Speaker 1: of French bread to eat all day. So a staycation
Speaker 1: or you because sometimes you do weird things, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call them weird because I don't know anyone who's
Speaker 1: ever done that, things like staying at a hotel within
Speaker 1: the town where you live, things of that and anything
Speaker 1: like that, cooking just to get away. I'm looking into.
Speaker 1: I'm looking into that now that comes with the various
Speaker 1: One of my favorite Mark things ever, it comes with
Speaker 1: a little bit of of of negotiation. But when you
Speaker 1: live in Los Angeles and you don't essentially do anything
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles because we we really don't like you,
Speaker 1: kind of could go twelve miles from here into Hollywood
Speaker 1: and feel like you're in a different That's one way
Speaker 1: to do it. Um. But if you ever want to
Speaker 1: do like a a t N podcast history tour through
Speaker 1: Culver City, the travel lodge across the street from the
Speaker 1: our famous watering hole, uh, the cozy in Mark Sessler's
Speaker 1: stayed at that track I have I have, you know,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite things. I have done that and
Speaker 1: there are reasons there. Yes, we don't need to dig
Speaker 1: into that, but it was a very nice place to stay.
Speaker 1: You're a fascinating man. Mark on today's edition. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Ben on today's edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's just Mark and I, Greg West, the Paramore, the
Speaker 1: big Fish, Evan Silva, all Tybee Island off the coast
Speaker 1: of Georgia. So we'll try to track them down, uh
Speaker 1: and see if they're doing okay and if West is
Speaker 1: fulfilling his promise he made to me. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he ever made a promise, but I'm gonna ride
Speaker 1: with it that way that he will get Gregg into
Speaker 1: some trouble. I mean, we've seen some photographic evidence out
Speaker 1: there that Greg at least um enjoyed one small glass
Speaker 1: of red wine. That's the evidence that we have at
Speaker 1: this point. Maybe much more has happened, right And in
Speaker 1: honor of our Mike and the Mad Dog Team Friday show,
Speaker 1: we'll be taking callers from you, the listeners of our
Speaker 1: fine show here. Uh so we'll take callers later on.
Speaker 1: But before we get to that, a little light on
Speaker 1: the news. But there was one big announcement. Uh oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know what that is. Let's out of that
Speaker 1: so big. I love that. It's orchestral, it's it gets
Speaker 1: a point, that gets the point across that football is
Speaker 1: a man's sport. But you know what, and lindsay, old
Speaker 1: Gray could be enjoyed by everyone, including women. How to
Speaker 1: take myself out there? That's true. I did. And ladies
Speaker 1: can play too if you give him a chance. I
Speaker 1: put a lady at fullback I've met I've met some
Speaker 1: some women who would make for great fullbacks and other
Speaker 1: positions of skill as well. All Right, I dug out it.
Speaker 1: Let me hear that song again though. All Right, So
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns after really what felt like years of
Speaker 1: rumors or I want to call it wish casting. Wish
Speaker 1: casting because it's not like everybody wants to see the
Speaker 1: Browns UH in a five part mini series. But it
Speaker 1: always made sense that the Browns would be a good
Speaker 1: narrative arc to follow for the storytellers of um NFL
Speaker 1: films an HBO because of the Greek tragedy aspect of
Speaker 1: the organization post UH post their relaunch, and also there's
Speaker 1: always a fresh start with the Browns every couple of years,
Speaker 1: and obviously we're in the middle of one right now.
Speaker 1: But this year, especially Mark and you, as the resident
Speaker 1: Browns fan, UM, I know that this probably feels like
Speaker 1: of all the years, And maybe the Johnny Manzelle summer
Speaker 1: would have been fun too, because there's so much excitement
Speaker 1: around Johnny football, even though it turned out horribly, But
Speaker 1: this feels like a good year for the cameras to
Speaker 1: be coming to the Berea Complex. Yeah, the timing is right,
Speaker 1: and I feel like there are people inside the Browns
Speaker 1: building that wanted to do this in other years, and
Speaker 1: it would have been like, oh, you're coming off like
Speaker 1: a five and eleven season. We get it, you're not
Speaker 1: a successful franchise. But somehow the timing and HBO's patients
Speaker 1: and the whole combination of it brought us the peak
Speaker 1: year to come off of. I mean, the chance that
Speaker 1: you get to chronicle a team that one zero games
Speaker 1: last season and one one the year before. It's never
Speaker 1: going to get this bad ever again. So I think
Speaker 1: the timing is fascinating. Also because of what's happened during
Speaker 1: this offseason, there's a lot of new faces. A guy
Speaker 1: like John Dorsey in the general manager spot did not
Speaker 1: want to do this at all. I think Hugh Jackson
Speaker 1: probably does because we saw it was pretty good with
Speaker 1: the Bengals. And for him, I mean, his reputation is
Speaker 1: somewhat in tatters at this point. If he can pull
Speaker 1: off a bit of a p O V shift where
Speaker 1: you can say I'm not the guy you think I
Speaker 1: am over the course of five weeks, that is a
Speaker 1: huge win for him. The risk is there too, though
Speaker 1: for this team. Well, he was very interesting because when
Speaker 1: he was the O C and Cincinnati back in when
Speaker 1: they had a hard knocks season. Uh, he came off
Speaker 1: so well, and I and I know we talked about
Speaker 1: it on this podcast. Um, I'm sure looked at Hugh
Speaker 1: was a guy that was a fast riser in the
Speaker 1: industry and maybe a future head coach, and sure enough
Speaker 1: he became one now one in thirty one and two years.
Speaker 1: And I think it somewhat of a surprise to me
Speaker 1: still that Hugh survived Owen sixteen. So now he gets
Speaker 1: the opportunity and we get to see on the ground
Speaker 1: floor how he kind of approaches what really is his
Speaker 1: last rodeo. I mean, because you're not gonna get another
Speaker 1: head coaching job if it doesn't work out. Very hard
Speaker 1: to get hired three times. He already got fired in Oakland.
Speaker 1: If he gets fired by Cleveland, it's probably back to
Speaker 1: uh staff position as an O C. And I think
Speaker 1: that's gonna be fascinating to watch Hugh with all that pressure,
Speaker 1: because two years ago, on this very show Hard Knocks,
Speaker 1: we saw another coaching career end. It was Jeff Fisher's, uh,
Speaker 1: he'll never be a head coach again, and you saw
Speaker 1: how things could go poorly. But now Hugh does get
Speaker 1: a chance, and we get a front row seat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: an improbable one and you want to find out because
Speaker 1: these NFL players, I don't think that it's easy to
Speaker 1: assume that Hugh Jackson has the room at this point.
Speaker 1: Now they're so young that some of them are new
Speaker 1: to Hugh Jackson. But if you're two years into this,
Speaker 1: like he's got to somehow win this team over again.
Speaker 1: And yet I don't even know if he's the a
Speaker 1: storyline in this because when you have not only Tyrod Taylor,
Speaker 1: but also of course Baker Mayfield, you don't have just
Speaker 1: one quarterback to center this show on. You have both
Speaker 1: and with Mayfield, and I think that you know, you
Speaker 1: wrote about this yesterday and you and you put it
Speaker 1: well that in the in New York, the Jets just
Speaker 1: took Sam Donald, who looks like you went into a
Speaker 1: lab and created the perfect looking first overall pick and
Speaker 1: Sam donaldranchise quarter with with you know and you and
Speaker 1: you know how to scout this. He has ideal hair,
Speaker 1: he has insanely ideal hair for a quarterback, and it's
Speaker 1: exactly the guy you would think, except they go with
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and right away Cleveland took. I thought a
Speaker 1: perception hit from a lot of people, a lot of
Speaker 1: people that don't even watch college football that just say
Speaker 1: why did you go Baker Mayfield over Donald? Well, it's
Speaker 1: an opportunity for Baker Mayfield, who I don't think we'll
Speaker 1: shy away from this. He's at his own reality series
Speaker 1: already to show why. I don't like that. I don't
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, it was you did not you
Speaker 1: really never saw this he I mean, it's not going
Speaker 1: on now, I think, but it's it was. It was
Speaker 1: a lead up to the draft. I'm just I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna put up a red flag. But that's exactly the thing.
Speaker 1: That's there's all these things about Baker Mayfield that people say,
Speaker 1: oh I don't like this or that or that story
Speaker 1: or that anecdote. He's another person with an opportunity to say,
Speaker 1: here's why they took me number one. Forget the guy
Speaker 1: with the good hair. Yeah, I think he's gonna well,
Speaker 1: calm doubt that. But I think I'm dead on point
Speaker 1: with that. I think that Mayfield will be something that's
Speaker 1: exciting to watch just because or fun to watch exciting
Speaker 1: feels strong because he is a charismatic guy, seems to
Speaker 1: have a sense of humor. Obviously, um is a very
Speaker 1: confident individual, so he would be a guy I think
Speaker 1: would be fun to track through the four or five
Speaker 1: weeks of the training camp. Um. And one person that's
Speaker 1: back too that I'm excited about is everybody's favorite Me
Speaker 1: and Uncle, Greg Williams back like, uh, you know, like
Speaker 1: a villain in a horror movie. Just when you think
Speaker 1: he's dead, he's back. He was on the Rams two
Speaker 1: years ago as the d C just bummed everybody out,
Speaker 1: just screaming at everyone all the time. Just basically exactly
Speaker 1: what you thought Greg Williams might be like in real
Speaker 1: life is exactly what Greg was and uh and it
Speaker 1: gets fired by the Rams after a miserable uh tenure
Speaker 1: there lands at the Browns. This is second year in
Speaker 1: Cleveland now, so we get more of America's Me and
Speaker 1: Uncle and I'm looking forward to seeing him scream at
Speaker 1: twenty one year old. Yeah, I think he's not changed
Speaker 1: at all, So you're gonna get that. And and then
Speaker 1: on the flip side, you have Todd Haley, who is
Speaker 1: not known to be I mean, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: not the most pleasant staff. No, it isn't. And it's
Speaker 1: like it's kind of an everywhere you look. On top
Speaker 1: of it, you have the owner in Jimmy has l
Speaker 1: M and d Haslm his wife that they've taken NonStop
Speaker 1: political and you know, public hits for all the stuff
Speaker 1: that's gone on with the team everywhere you look someone
Speaker 1: So this has been a terrible team for their entire time,
Speaker 1: deservedly deservedly. So so it's like I think either like
Speaker 1: it's going to be kind of I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: know within two weeks. You know this is going to
Speaker 1: very well for the Browns and there's a lot at
Speaker 1: stake here, or it's not. And you made it. I
Speaker 1: asked you, like before the show if you thought it
Speaker 1: was important that they come out looking good, and you're
Speaker 1: an interesting answer which you can get to. But I
Speaker 1: just think it's a little bit of a different pressure
Speaker 1: on a team like Cleveland then when you dip in
Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals or the New Orleans Saints or
Speaker 1: the Cowboys for the eighteenth time on Hard Knocks. Um.
Speaker 1: I think that Hard Knocks is a show that all
Speaker 1: football fans should watch, but not all football fans watched,
Speaker 1: So there will be a segment of football fans that
Speaker 1: will remember everything that happens in these shows and carry
Speaker 1: with them as a fan experience and it forms opinions,
Speaker 1: but I think for most people it's all kind of forgotten.
Speaker 1: Like I really enjoyed the Buck season last year, and
Speaker 1: I thought they were really likable and fun and looked
Speaker 1: like a team that was going in the right direction.
Speaker 1: And then they laid a huge egg and he almost
Speaker 1: felt a little bit annoyed by them. But most people
Speaker 1: don't even remember that the Bucks were the hard knocks team.
Speaker 1: I think the Browns, uh, you know, we'll see it.
Speaker 1: Could could they end up looking really bad? If if
Speaker 1: things probably, but maybe not. This is an NFL Films production.
Speaker 1: I think fans like you, Mark, especially you, you're kind
Speaker 1: of a unique fan from my experience around sports. Damaged.
Speaker 1: You are well damages one word, but you're You're sensitive
Speaker 1: to the criticism the Browns get and you see this
Speaker 1: as a potential target situation. It's kind of as a fan,
Speaker 1: a type of fan you are. I feel like it's
Speaker 1: a high risk, high reward type star turn for them. Um.
Speaker 1: But I my my advice to is like, don't get
Speaker 1: too caught up in that because people forget what's the season. Honestly,
Speaker 1: part of me because the one thing that's embarrassing about
Speaker 1: um rooting, as you know for a bad team, but
Speaker 1: even one in New York is different than Cleveland because
Speaker 1: the league last year had in rightly so had no
Speaker 1: issue just burying them at one pm Eastern from week
Speaker 1: one through Week seventeen with no interruption that they're not
Speaker 1: on prime time. They're a team that people, when they
Speaker 1: think about it, it's one of the most embarrassing runs
Speaker 1: in professional sports history what they've gone through. And I
Speaker 1: think by the nature of working in sports, especially working
Speaker 1: just where it's all football, I'm way more sensitive to
Speaker 1: it because even in May, like I'm on a chat
Speaker 1: room all day long with co workers where every time
Speaker 1: the Browns comes up, it's like everyone's just taking shots NonStop,
Speaker 1: and it's kind of like I can take shots at them,
Speaker 1: I can be angry at them, but well enough with
Speaker 1: everyone else doing it all the time. I'm the same
Speaker 1: way with like h and I just went to because
Speaker 1: I'm an insane person. My seventeen YouTube concert You two
Speaker 1: is a tremendous night two Nights ago, tremendously famous, popular band,
Speaker 1: but they also have an incredibly high number of detractors
Speaker 1: that hate Bono or just sick of you two after
Speaker 1: all these years. Like and when I'm talking to a
Speaker 1: YouTube fan, we could say like, oh, we hate the
Speaker 1: Bono did this, or I hate this album, or they
Speaker 1: don't make they're old now, they can't make good music.
Speaker 1: But it's one some bozoh that just hates you too
Speaker 1: because they think Bono talks too much or something is
Speaker 1: just throwing shade at you two. They're like, back off
Speaker 1: by You're not allowed absolutely, although you are allowed, but
Speaker 1: it just annoys me a little bit more. I like
Speaker 1: to talk with people that are like minded. I don't
Speaker 1: like I like to be closed off from society only
Speaker 1: people that are like me. Mark, Yes, that's uh yeah
Speaker 1: that that that says a lot about your exploratory nature
Speaker 1: in relationship. So um so they go Hard Knocks. It
Speaker 1: starts in August seven, five episodes. It should be good
Speaker 1: and one other thought I had. I just thought of this,
Speaker 1: and I think it's a great idea. And I do
Speaker 1: have a good relationship with the Hard Knocks people because
Speaker 1: I've been writing the episode recaps for years on this website.
Speaker 1: Now is as we all know, the Browns Training complex
Speaker 1: is built on an ancient Indian burial ground. This is
Speaker 1: not confirmed, but just not Triple source. That nobody's not
Speaker 1: triple source. But no one has ever come out and said, no,
Speaker 1: that's actually not true, whether it be the Browns or
Speaker 1: the League or even you. Let's be fair. No, I'm
Speaker 1: from Barria, Like, that's where I grew up. It's not
Speaker 1: the imburial ground. Well guess what she has confirm it's not.
Speaker 1: I know all about the history my grandparents. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: And that's exactly what someone from Brea would say. Think
Speaker 1: about that, of course, like oh no, no, no, why
Speaker 1: would you Why would you want that Outcome to our tourists,
Speaker 1: you know, see our different sites. We're not haunted. But
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is in the in the event that
Speaker 1: you're wrong, lindsay or you're covering for your town, uh send. Like,
Speaker 1: do they still do that show ghost Hunters? I mean,
Speaker 1: if they don't do that show, they do another twelve
Speaker 1: versions of that show across Cable two in the morning.
Speaker 1: Just go in there, get out your little ghostbusters, uh
Speaker 1: phantom meters, and you dig around and then put it.
Speaker 1: Make it the season finale. I like it a lot.
Speaker 1: The entire final show would just be that of Hard
Speaker 1: Knocks all right, So hard knocks coming up in August,
Speaker 1: looking forward to that. All right, before we get to
Speaker 1: the callers, let's let's let's make a phone call and
Speaker 1: try to track down Greg Rosenthal, Chris Westling, the big Fish,
Speaker 1: Evans Silva, the Paramore, perhaps Tiffany Blackman. There have been
Speaker 1: rumors that Blackman's involved with all this. Uh. Let's start though, lindsay,
Speaker 1: if you could help us out with the phones. Out
Speaker 1: of phone work, Lindsay, who used to work for a
Speaker 1: radio station? So this is good, Rips. Let's call huck
Speaker 1: a Poos to see if they're like that. Hucka Poo's
Speaker 1: the famous bar that West got drunk at millions of times?
Speaker 1: What happened there? That's one way to answer the phone
Speaker 1: at a bar? Was that a pick up and hang out?
Speaker 1: That was a tad route? That? I mean? Their website
Speaker 1: says call for delivery in a number that we just called.
Speaker 1: I think that you are you shunning business away? Interesting?
Speaker 1: All right, Let's let's try plan B. Let's give gregor call.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's probably the most most likely to
Speaker 1: have his wits about him right now, Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get Greg on the phone. Uh, somewhere,
Speaker 1: hopefully on Tybe unless that's a sign that something terrible
Speaker 1: is happening in Tybee hopefully not. Like we can ask
Speaker 1: Greg that die hard on a island paradise. They haven't
Speaker 1: done that yet. It's too good set up. I don't
Speaker 1: know if i'd had Greg Is the main star of
Speaker 1: that Ben, you would it, Bruce Willis? Greg? It doesn't. Hello,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosental, Yo, Yo? Are you sound quite different? Greg?
Speaker 1: Your voice sounds different. No, I'm just trying to not
Speaker 1: be rude. Right did we're in at We're at bunch.
Speaker 1: I'm stepping outside right now? Oh nice? All right? Greg?
Speaker 1: What's going on on Tybee Island? Right now? Take us
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. You're here on the Around the NFL podcast.
Speaker 1: Of course, we're live. We're live and just rolling right now.
Speaker 1: That's how we do it. I got Chris Wesleyan right
Speaker 1: next to me. Tybee Islands, imagina. That's all I can
Speaker 1: say to describe it. Within within minutes of being here,
Speaker 1: I am Innnesota, was in a totally different mind frame,
Speaker 1: and I'm never leaving. I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: you're leaving something out about My wife could like come
Speaker 1: down here and dominate like the cooking game and uh
Speaker 1: and uh. I don't know what I'll do. I'll just
Speaker 1: write about football and the stay. So you're gonna stay
Speaker 1: on the docks, leave the kids behind, leave the wife behind,
Speaker 1: or bring them here West compared to Well that it's
Speaker 1: like him coming here is like an after not returning
Speaker 1: from space. It's like, within within thirty minutes of being there,
Speaker 1: we're just we're garage drinking. It's like the nicest bar
Speaker 1: I've ever been to. But it's somehow in the garage
Speaker 1: of the house we're staying at and and just people
Speaker 1: are you know, just randomly walking up and and to
Speaker 1: see West like he's like a returning hero. Are they
Speaker 1: they're kissing the ring for Wesley? What's up? They kissing
Speaker 1: the ring? Don't get aggressive with us. I give you
Speaker 1: the West right now. Asked the question what's up? I
Speaker 1: was weird. I just asked Greg if the locals are
Speaker 1: kissing your ring, which is a term that they're showing
Speaker 1: your respect. Okay, but here comes Fisco. What's going on? They?
Speaker 1: How are you doing? I've been wondering. Yes, question for you,
Speaker 1: if I can tear you away from Cisco or whoever
Speaker 1: it is you're speaking to Uh, there is We have
Speaker 1: a couple of photographs have leaked out and yesterday one
Speaker 1: of Greg kind of nestling a tiny glass of what
Speaker 1: looked to be merlot, some sort of red wine glass. Right?
Speaker 1: Has he pivoted off red wine? Was there a second
Speaker 1: glass of red wine? You remember West you made a
Speaker 1: promise to Dan uh and to myself. We weren't counting drinks,
Speaker 1: but there were way more than one red glass, glass
Speaker 1: of red wine. And Greg's hand last night, very very
Speaker 1: impressed with you and Greg. We we had him going
Speaker 1: for probably about a good eight hours. That's nice. Did
Speaker 1: he break away to write a roster reset for a
Speaker 1: few hours or at any point or do maybe a
Speaker 1: phone call? Did he do like a roster reset break
Speaker 1: at any point or no? He never. I don't think
Speaker 1: there was any football talk whatsoever. He did call one
Speaker 1: of the people on the island and wait a minute,
Speaker 1: why that feels like a rapport breaker. Well, it was
Speaker 1: a request him Rosie. My uh, my friend Rosie. She
Speaker 1: requested that Greg say it into the video and uh
Speaker 1: so she could show it to this man later. Okay,
Speaker 1: so but it wasn't. They didn't have a confrontation and
Speaker 1: this guy Jim Glass about it. Greg's been hitting the
Speaker 1: Merlau earlier like this is live radio today, this is
Speaker 1: not taped, just to let you know there. Um wow,
Speaker 1: so it seems like everybody seems to having a good time.
Speaker 1: Is the big fish as he made the journey upstream
Speaker 1: uh to Tybee yet hung up on you guys. I
Speaker 1: mean that's so, that's how what else do we need
Speaker 1: to know? I hope the big thing I I come out,
Speaker 1: I come away from that phone called highly suspicious of
Speaker 1: both of them. It almost felt like, um, Greg was
Speaker 1: in danger. I don't know why. I just something was.
Speaker 1: It was not right at all. That was not Greg
Speaker 1: and that's not how you treat friends. Number one. We
Speaker 1: tried to call back right now. Maybe we'll try later.
Speaker 1: We try calling Huckapoos. They pick up the phone and
Speaker 1: hang up on us. Uh. And by the way, they
Speaker 1: spell their name four different ways on the website. Let's
Speaker 1: get that. Let's get that together. And then we call
Speaker 1: our co workers Greg and West and Greg goes on
Speaker 1: in a swearing tirade and then shuts down. The line
Speaker 1: cuts out. I'm sticking with a die hard on a
Speaker 1: resort island angle here that there could be some danger,
Speaker 1: but I guess we'll find out in a few days
Speaker 1: if you know, if we never see them. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was concerning. I think the listeners would agree. All right.
Speaker 1: So there it sounds like they're having a good time
Speaker 1: or not. But uh, I can't wait till they rejoin
Speaker 1: us here in southern California. Um, I guess we should
Speaker 1: just move on. Given us no other choice to get
Speaker 1: but to barrel into the next segment of the show.
Speaker 1: All right, so uh as we move on? Here we
Speaker 1: go now it's uh yes, uh, Mark and I grew
Speaker 1: up on SportsTalk radio, so I feel like this Mark
Speaker 1: is a good time for us to connect with our
Speaker 1: listeners who are so loyal and are obviously as long
Speaker 1: time listeners of the show, um, are smart and have
Speaker 1: uh you know, they think about football in a different
Speaker 1: way than joke you public, absolutely a different group and
Speaker 1: an honor to speak with him. All right, so let's
Speaker 1: let's get it going and we will start things out
Speaker 1: here with Matt and san Raphael Maddie. There, I am here,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the uht A t L Debate Club. What's
Speaker 1: going on? How can I help you? Uh? Well, first,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe I'll disclose I'm not Matt so much
Speaker 1: as I'm also Grieves or Greevy time, the guy who
Speaker 1: spend that's how we what's up man? We know a legend.
Speaker 1: What's up, buddy, A legend in my own mind that
Speaker 1: that's happy to be here. Um uh And I also
Speaker 1: just wanted to call a shout out in case you
Speaker 1: guys haven't mentioned it. I just spent about an hour
Speaker 1: and a half listening to uh the fantasy Land podcast
Speaker 1: about Chris Yes is just tremendous and was also honored
Speaker 1: to be a little bit of part of that. And
Speaker 1: it's it's incredible, So everybody should uh take the time
Speaker 1: to listen to it. It's long, but very much worth it.
Speaker 1: That is a great a great shout out Greeby if
Speaker 1: you go to at fantasy Land pod. That's the Twitter handle. Um.
Speaker 1: They really did a great job and they spoke with
Speaker 1: all of us at length, and it was all about
Speaker 1: uh West is uh really brave and and ultimately successful
Speaker 1: battle against the Big Sea. So kind of a real
Speaker 1: deep dive into the whole journey that West went on
Speaker 1: that you could check it out. I did find it
Speaker 1: odd when I spoke to them we talked for a
Speaker 1: good hour hour and a half. Um. They told me
Speaker 1: they only needed to talk with Dan for roughly five
Speaker 1: ten minutes. They had as much content as they needed. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you know they need what they need, so but
Speaker 1: the end of product was pretty great. Yeah. Check out
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Land podcast. It's great. Uh. Anything else on that,
Speaker 1: anything football related you want to throw out there? Yeah? Um,
Speaker 1: you know, just a fun question I thought I would
Speaker 1: throw to your guys since you, um, you guys both
Speaker 1: route for two franchises that are sort of historically down
Speaker 1: on their luck. And I was thinking about, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a die hard forty Niners fan, so I certainly
Speaker 1: have had my sheriff success is I'm I'm old enough
Speaker 1: to remember all the good times. Um, but it's been
Speaker 1: a little rough of late. Uh, and we've had some
Speaker 1: some troubling moments with our franchise. And I was saying
Speaker 1: to myself, what would it take for me to put
Speaker 1: together a binder of all the reasons I needed to
Speaker 1: break up with my team? Um? And of course I
Speaker 1: never got there, but you guys have certainly had it
Speaker 1: a little harsher like, is there anything your teams could
Speaker 1: do that would make you have to write a breakup
Speaker 1: letter to the Browns and Jets, and the way that
Speaker 1: Westling did for the Bengals, I'll let you start with
Speaker 1: that mark. I feel like at this point, because number
Speaker 1: one not one years old at this point. Uh, the
Speaker 1: minute that I put together said binder, for whatever reasons
Speaker 1: that I came up with, it was the minute they
Speaker 1: would turn fortunes around and become you know, good and
Speaker 1: get on national television seven times a year. I am
Speaker 1: too far gone to make when west did that, and
Speaker 1: it was a calculated move on his part, with a
Speaker 1: lot of thought behind it. He was a much younger
Speaker 1: guy with a lot of football ahead of him. Like,
Speaker 1: I am not going to jump ship now. I would
Speaker 1: have already had five or six binders filled of reasons
Speaker 1: to do it at this point. From a personal standpoint,
Speaker 1: why don't you feel like it would be the most
Speaker 1: Browns thing ever for you to bail and then then
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. It's I listened three months into
Speaker 1: becoming a Browns fan the drive happened, It would have
Speaker 1: been it would have been good to maybe do it then,
Speaker 1: and I didn't do it, so and uh, grievy as
Speaker 1: a somebody that grew up in the New York, New
Speaker 1: Jersey area. Being a Jet fan. It's kind of like
Speaker 1: the mafia. You're born into it and there's no way
Speaker 1: out you. Your time as a Jet fan ends when
Speaker 1: your time on this earth is up. Uh so, for
Speaker 1: better or worse. And I say it all the time,
Speaker 1: like people, oh, you're a Yankee fan. How are you
Speaker 1: a Yankee fan and a jetsman? Usually it's Yankees, Jets
Speaker 1: and Mets. Well, that was just the sports God's throwing
Speaker 1: me a bone. They're like, you're gonna eat crap for
Speaker 1: most of your lifetime with the Jets. We're gonna give
Speaker 1: you the Yankees. Give you the Knicks too, which is
Speaker 1: a team of very witting on by the way, uh there,
Speaker 1: but there they would be my binder team. In fact,
Speaker 1: that's been formulating for a couple of years now. But
Speaker 1: the Jets, there's no way out, and I'll never leave.
Speaker 1: And one day the dream is like Red Sox fans
Speaker 1: and Cubs fans and and Browns fans born after their
Speaker 1: nineteen fifties, heyday, that there will be a release eventually,
Speaker 1: and that's the hope. Greedy Greedy. He runs the subreddit
Speaker 1: around the NFL, and I owe you a pullover fleece
Speaker 1: that will be being sent to you soon, because that's
Speaker 1: the least we could do. Greeby does an amazing job
Speaker 1: on our subreddit, so thanks, buddy. Hey, I appreciate that, guys.
Speaker 1: Keep up the awesome work and shout out to Lindsay
Speaker 1: as well, because equally great work as well. Yes, she does.
Speaker 1: What a class act. Matt and San Rafael alright, alright,
Speaker 1: never know what these callers. This could go any we
Speaker 1: go north to south. That that went well, Greeby, that's
Speaker 1: a home run. I think that, like I would like
Speaker 1: one caller to be horrible and we get to and
Speaker 1: old like Mike and a mad dog way, just utterly
Speaker 1: destroy the person then just cut him off at something.
Speaker 1: We've got to just cut someone off. I think even
Speaker 1: if we get if we get laid into this and
Speaker 1: someone's even pretty good, we might have to do that
Speaker 1: just for the experience. To check that box. I think
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. Up next is let's see who we
Speaker 1: got here. Mel from New Rochell Hello, Hello, Hello, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up buddy? Thanks? Thanks. I've been listening to it
Speaker 1: on my ride home from work every day for the
Speaker 1: last fifteen years. Love you guys, Thank you for having years. Okay,
Speaker 1: how can we help you? Mel? I'm gonna make this quick.
Speaker 1: I know you both have spread your wings and had
Speaker 1: a side podcast, Mark of course the Heat and the Light.
Speaker 1: Love that Dan, you do the throwback podcast? Would you
Speaker 1: better with friend Bob? So if you guys would have
Speaker 1: have solo podcast where it's just you and a microphone,
Speaker 1: what would you talk about it? I'll hang up down
Speaker 1: as thank you guys from the new roll. Mark. Wow. Um,
Speaker 1: I really think the best thing about doing a show
Speaker 1: is playing off other people. I think I would quickly
Speaker 1: get myself in trouble um, but I would probably make
Speaker 1: it about um, probably kind of close to the Heat
Speaker 1: and Light context, considering that Heat and Light does not
Speaker 1: exist at this point and made return. It's kind of
Speaker 1: in hiatus at best. It's I mean, listen, the the
Speaker 1: medium that we were broadcasting on was a startup that
Speaker 1: stops starting up. It no longer exists, and Connor lives
Speaker 1: like three thousand miles away, so a bit of a
Speaker 1: bit of a problem, unlike you and Bob doing it
Speaker 1: in the garage. So yeah, I think it would take
Speaker 1: a Heat and Light type um feel to it, but
Speaker 1: I would stay away from the sort of overly pretentious
Speaker 1: like nine episodes story pod where there's all these annoying
Speaker 1: people you're interviewing. Yeah no, and not serial was fine,
Speaker 1: just like it could quickly become very pretentious. So I
Speaker 1: think I would probably cancel the show um after one
Speaker 1: or two episodes, realizing that it was a you're putting
Speaker 1: a target on yourself. Uh yeah, No. I do yeah
Speaker 1: music pod, throwback pod with my buddy Bob, and I
Speaker 1: do a sports pod talking football. Uh here. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: would be fun to do like a show where it
Speaker 1: was more general sports, maybe a little some pop culture
Speaker 1: in there and talk movies, music, whatever. That'd be cool.
Speaker 1: But I'm content or I am right now. Bob is
Speaker 1: Bob is a good looking guy. That male from New
Speaker 1: Rochelle claimed he's better looking than you. How do you
Speaker 1: does that? Is that something that when you wake up,
Speaker 1: like guys do it three in the morning with the
Speaker 1: thoughts of life keeping you up? Will that keep you up?
Speaker 1: That's the first I've ever heard that. There's not a
Speaker 1: lot of backing evidence. I haven't heard like a lot
Speaker 1: of people coming at me and saying that Bob's better looking.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna assume this guy is an outlier and uh,
Speaker 1: let's move on. Up next is um a gentleman by
Speaker 1: the name of Duncan in Fort Murray, ALBERTA like that Duncan,
Speaker 1: Hey Dan, Hey, Duncan, Welcome to the Round the NFL podcast.
Speaker 1: How can we help you? Thank you? Hey. So my
Speaker 1: question for you guys, I've been listening forever. I don't
Speaker 1: think I've missed an episode. Maybe I have a long
Speaker 1: time first time in other words, ah yeah, So my
Speaker 1: question for you guys, what do you miss most about
Speaker 1: the debate? Club days? Could be you know, lifestyle related,
Speaker 1: could be general NFL related, podcast related, whatever. Man, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a good question. Good question, Fort Murray, Thank you,
Speaker 1: all right. I think, uh, what I miss most, aside
Speaker 1: from the loss of innocence that comes with before you
Speaker 1: get married and have kids and stuff, would be just, uh,
Speaker 1: I guess, the newness of it. But I don't feel
Speaker 1: like the show doesn't I'm still excited doing the show
Speaker 1: all the time that when we do now, but when
Speaker 1: we started Mark it was really exciting. We owe damnit
Speaker 1: check a huge debt of gratitude. We always will because
Speaker 1: he put us on the back of his show, just
Speaker 1: because he's a nice guy and or maybe you just
Speaker 1: had time to fill maybe one way or the other.
Speaker 1: But that's how it started, and that excitement of having
Speaker 1: a microphone in front of your face for the first time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like you go and watch like like long running
Speaker 1: um sitcoms. Not to compare ourselves to Seinfeld, that's a
Speaker 1: bit audacious, but uh, the first episode or two of Seinfeld,
Speaker 1: when you go back and watch it, is super clunky.
Speaker 1: And I think we had to work a lot to
Speaker 1: have the ship. There were only eight minutes long, but
Speaker 1: occasionally would feel seventy five to eighty minutes long because
Speaker 1: we'd have long gaps so we didn't know who was
Speaker 1: supposed to talk. I remember being visibly nervous, like driving
Speaker 1: into work before doing some of those, and then it
Speaker 1: got better and better as you went on. We just
Speaker 1: kind of just did them. But I guess um one
Speaker 1: high point was when Greg Rosenthal, who was living in
Speaker 1: New York at the time and our boss um you know,
Speaker 1: at the same time, came to New York, or at
Speaker 1: least told us over the phone. He's like, guys, like,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do something like this. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: do a podcast or whatever it is you're calling this thing,
Speaker 1: how about you do it in a professional manner. And
Speaker 1: then the conversation end it and I thought, Hmmm, I
Speaker 1: don't think our boss likes our show very much. Greg Rosatal,
Speaker 1: master Motivator as the Boss. Up next is Chris in
Speaker 1: New Mexico, just north of the border mark newer than
Speaker 1: Old Mexico. Chris and New Mexico. Welcome to the Round
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. Hey, how's it going, guys? What's up?
Speaker 1: What's Matt? It's uh, this is unreal to beyond with
Speaker 1: you anyway. Uh So, listen to a podcast by an
Speaker 1: author named Malcolm Gladwell. I love to debate with Adam
Speaker 1: Grant recently, and Adam Grant had him explain why he
Speaker 1: always roots for favorites instead of underdogs, and his explanation
Speaker 1: was that it's the morally right thing to do, because
Speaker 1: the underdog goes in not expecting to win. Uh. The
Speaker 1: favorite goes in with all of the expectations of both
Speaker 1: himself and everybody else to win. So the disappointment that
Speaker 1: the favorite experiences when he loses his way, hire, then
Speaker 1: what the underdog experiences right, what do you guys think? Well,
Speaker 1: may I ask do you root for a specific team yourself? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get killed for it for the Patriot all right.
Speaker 1: I mean this feels like it came out. You know,
Speaker 1: does Greg have a gun to your head right now?
Speaker 1: I don't know, But that's an interesting theory from from
Speaker 1: that pod. What do you think Chris is part of?
Speaker 1: Like the whatever is going on right now in Tybee,
Speaker 1: Chris is involved? Way? Um? I think you know it's interesting?
Speaker 1: Uh that so they said the morally superior thing is
Speaker 1: to root for the favorite because of the letdown is
Speaker 1: too painful for the favorite. That's the gist of it.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I don't know. I I feel like rooting
Speaker 1: for the underdog, you know, speaks to the whole other
Speaker 1: like host of you know, human positive qualities that you want,
Speaker 1: the idea that people can can exceed what you expect
Speaker 1: from them or expect from themselves. But then on the
Speaker 1: flip side, I'm like a huge Lebron James fan. I
Speaker 1: just saying I'm a Knicks fan, but and I and
Speaker 1: I feel this way about other great athletes. Jordan's was
Speaker 1: a similar thing. Um that true Tiger Woods is another
Speaker 1: guy that I've always rooted for, seeing whatever sport they
Speaker 1: play at the highest level, So I like I enjoy
Speaker 1: rooting for those giants, like a rod was a more
Speaker 1: complicated guy to root for, but when he was Alex
Speaker 1: Rodriguez and baseball, when he was at his height, you
Speaker 1: were watching somebody that was kind of a master of
Speaker 1: the craft. Uh So, I kind of like the idea
Speaker 1: of rooting for favorites, especially individual favorites, but from a
Speaker 1: team standpoint, I think from I think the underdog, and
Speaker 1: I think it's an interesting theory to say that also
Speaker 1: that the that the consistent winner has a lot more
Speaker 1: pressure packed into their into their weekly you know work,
Speaker 1: especially when you get into the playoffs, because of the
Speaker 1: expectations and the fact that you're assumed to already get
Speaker 1: to that high standard. And I remember even you know,
Speaker 1: covering some Super Bowls, where as a human being, you're
Speaker 1: naturally sort of pulling for one of the two teams,
Speaker 1: and when you feel that potentially slipping a a it's
Speaker 1: a way different feeling than watching, uh, your crappy football
Speaker 1: team just getting waxed in Week five by Cincinnati or something.
Speaker 1: That said, though, here's where I challenged the theory most
Speaker 1: people when if you pick up a team as a kid,
Speaker 1: unless it's you know, put on you by family, you
Speaker 1: pick a team that's a winner. Kids don't naturally at
Speaker 1: age five or six gravitate towards losers. But if you
Speaker 1: stick with that team, they're gonna go through ups and downs.
Speaker 1: So let's say, if the Patriots suddenly and they will
Speaker 1: become a disaster at some point in the caller's life,
Speaker 1: do you suddenly jump ship to the new team of
Speaker 1: the day or whatever team is good every year, because
Speaker 1: we're claiming that to be higher moral ground. Have a
Speaker 1: problem with Chris is gone, Okay, well thanks for calling Chris.
Speaker 1: I'm wondering how Chris became a Patriots fan in New Mexico.
Speaker 1: But then again, we met like a seven foot six
Speaker 1: Taiwanese man at our last tweet up in Minneapolis that
Speaker 1: became a huge Patriots fans. Yeah, I think like probably,
Speaker 1: if you're a great team for roughly twenty years, you're
Speaker 1: pulling people in from you know, all fifty states. That's
Speaker 1: not an insaturation. By the way, it was seven and
Speaker 1: a half feet tall. The ment a delightful gentleman, and
Speaker 1: to speak with as well, and if he's listening right now,
Speaker 1: it was great to me. We love you all right,
Speaker 1: let's keep going. Will in Charlotte up next? Will you there? Yes, sir?
Speaker 1: How you doing? Hey? What's up? Will? What's William? That's right? Um?
Speaker 1: I just want to say, what's going on, guys, big fan.
Speaker 1: I've introduced a lot of people to the podcast. I got.
Speaker 1: That's a good job by you, Will, right, Jeff, Tom
Speaker 1: and Joe listening of course? Apple cider vinegar? That's me? Mark?
Speaker 1: Are you doing good to hear from you? You're the man.
Speaker 1: I want to play a game of what's more likely? Here? Fun?
Speaker 1: That's right? So I mean, are we cool with will
Speaker 1: even though he's got the apple cider vinegar angle? Here?
Speaker 1: Are we cooled him kind of putting the show in
Speaker 1: his own direction? And we are we okay with this?
Speaker 1: I think it's it's daring. It shows some, it shows
Speaker 1: some you know, real are onions. I think so I
Speaker 1: think that we're we're going to go with that. We
Speaker 1: respect it. Go on. Yeah, thank you, guys. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Brown and Build combined for nine wins
Speaker 1: or more. They combined yep, okay, nine Mark pays off
Speaker 1: all his sandwiches, well, that's never gonna happen. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: because if you look at the what I actually owe
Speaker 1: and sandwiches, and earlier in the show, I bemoan the
Speaker 1: fact that I'm taking a week long vacation and literally
Speaker 1: probably not leaving my house due to lack of funds.
Speaker 1: The idea that I would buy anything more that at
Speaker 1: this point than a round of sandwiches is highly improbable.
Speaker 1: And I think the Browns and Bills could both be
Speaker 1: essentially the Dictionary definition of crappy and each turnout about
Speaker 1: four and five wins. You know, one does five, one
Speaker 1: does four, and we're there, so you gotta get at
Speaker 1: least nine. And for the record, I Mark will never
Speaker 1: pay off a sandwich is just because we wouldn't make
Speaker 1: him do that, because he's been so poor at the
Speaker 1: go get my lunch game that if he were to
Speaker 1: pay off all sandwich bets, his children would be pulled
Speaker 1: out of school, You'd move into uh, really run down
Speaker 1: apartment company or like a Y M c A. So
Speaker 1: I don't we don't want him to do that, but
Speaker 1: we we you know what, and it's good will that
Speaker 1: you brought this up, and since you brought it up, Mark,
Speaker 1: it would be fair. I think that now we're not
Speaker 1: asking you to totally pay up, but maybe throw us.
Speaker 1: I like at this point that you guys are trying
Speaker 1: to handle this in such a gentle manner manner manner
Speaker 1: that you're sort of walking on eggshells around the fact
Speaker 1: that I've done such an awful job of delivering on
Speaker 1: the sandwiches. It is on me to do it. It
Speaker 1: will not be happening next week on vacation. But I
Speaker 1: have so little money right now that I literally don't
Speaker 1: even have a car, So I need someone to drive
Speaker 1: me to a sandwich shop to pick that up. So
Speaker 1: if you can drive me to any sandwich shop that
Speaker 1: you wish, I will purchase excluding bond. Alright, well, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you absolutely guys. All right, we'll take a couple
Speaker 1: more and then we gotta get going. Let's uh up next?
Speaker 1: Uh oh, I think I know who this is actually
Speaker 1: up next is Jason and Kingman. Kingman, I believe, is
Speaker 1: a community in the state of Arizona. It is Hey, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's up? What's going on? All? This is unwall? This
Speaker 1: is how are you welcome to the around the NFL
Speaker 1: podcast and if you do go all the way back. Uh. Jason,
Speaker 1: by the way, very talented writer actor here in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Also occasional contributor to the Throwback podcast and um Once
Speaker 1: upon a Time and during the early days of the
Speaker 1: A t L Debate Club did some did some voice
Speaker 1: work which maybe we'll get to it. We'll get to
Speaker 1: in a minute. Jay. First of all, how are you, Bud?
Speaker 1: I'm good man, Completely forgot about this call. Was inside
Speaker 1: watching Dr Strange with my family. Family. You have, you
Speaker 1: have a toddler and infant. You gather the family around
Speaker 1: at eleven fifty six specific time to watch Doctor Strange
Speaker 1: with with everyone. Interesting. Okay, it's this interesting situation that's
Speaker 1: a little weird, but it's fine. Jay A well well
Speaker 1: well known at least by me and people in your
Speaker 1: circle of life that you're a Cardinals fan. You got
Speaker 1: any anything on the cards? Yeah? I mean number one.
Speaker 1: I hope Josh Rosen doesn't play this year, but I
Speaker 1: think we all know he is eventually going to just
Speaker 1: because Sam Bradford has made a class um he is.
Speaker 1: We brought up Bruce Willis earlier. We brought up Bruce
Speaker 1: Willis earlier. Because there might be a die hard on
Speaker 1: a resort island situation going on in Tybee right now.
Speaker 1: But you when you mentioned Mr Glass, Yeah, that is
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford's kind of the Samuel L. Jackson without the
Speaker 1: murderous rage within Well, I don't know. I mean it
Speaker 1: depends on how you know, you know, people think he
Speaker 1: treated Carson Wentz there. There seemed to be some murderous
Speaker 1: rage there. He seems to have changed his tune with
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen, but yeah, he didn't seem to be too
Speaker 1: hot on being replaced by with Wentz. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: I think this is one thing because a lot of
Speaker 1: people are talking about our offensive weapons and how you know,
Speaker 1: John Brown is gone, Geron Brown is gone. Of course
Speaker 1: have Larry Fitzgerald and we have uh, David Johnson, which
Speaker 1: is you know, I can't really beat those two. But
Speaker 1: I think that people should not sleep on Chad Williams.
Speaker 1: He's the h I think he's a second round pick
Speaker 1: from last year. And this is something that Darren Urban,
Speaker 1: who is the beat writer for the Cardinals, uh he
Speaker 1: said recently on a podcast. So I'm just totally ripping
Speaker 1: him off. But last year he was not really expected
Speaker 1: to play much. Uh he was, you know, like sixth
Speaker 1: in line and a stacked roster. But this year there
Speaker 1: are expectations on this kid, and he's got a lot
Speaker 1: of natural talent. So I think that's the name. You
Speaker 1: feel good? We Uh yeah, so keep an eye out.
Speaker 1: Uh Aaron Williams, you said, um so, Chad Williams. Sorry,
Speaker 1: thank you Jason for bringing literally the only football analysis
Speaker 1: to this entire episode. By the way, nice nicely done. Jay.
Speaker 1: But right before the draft, and Mark, you and I
Speaker 1: were at the combine and I remember seeing Steve Wilkes
Speaker 1: and and he was facing the media and didn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of positive news or a lot of optimism
Speaker 1: around this team that he had inherited from Bruce Arians.
Speaker 1: And remember thinking, oh, what a bad spot for a
Speaker 1: new head coach without a quarterback, replacing a guy that's
Speaker 1: a very well liked, popular figure in the organization and
Speaker 1: in the league. And I thought the Josh Rosen, I
Speaker 1: think that really changed things for the Cardinals. And what
Speaker 1: Jay saying is give him a year on the bench.
Speaker 1: I don't think the even have the opportunity. I know
Speaker 1: they have Mike Lennon on the roster still, but uh,
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford is going to get hurt. So it's just
Speaker 1: a matter of when, Uh, the opportunity is gonna come
Speaker 1: to replace the injured guy, and you're it's gonna be
Speaker 1: hard to not put the rookie. And I think you're
Speaker 1: gonna see like at least eight games whether you want
Speaker 1: him or not. I think a couple of these rookies
Speaker 1: will be anointed by the end of August. And you
Speaker 1: just because Sam Bradford, whether or not it gets hurt,
Speaker 1: just also feels like the guy that, depending on how
Speaker 1: it goes, could just get bench at some point too.
Speaker 1: I like Bradford, but it's just that that's sort of
Speaker 1: what's happened to him over and over. Yeah, I'm giving
Speaker 1: Bradford six games this year. Um. I think Josh Rosen
Speaker 1: is going to start ten. Um. My biggest fear, especially
Speaker 1: as an Arizona Cardinals fan, is just that offensive line. UM,
Speaker 1: I don't care. It just seems no matter what we
Speaker 1: try to do with it, um, it just gets decimated. UM.
Speaker 1: I love Justin Pugh. I think he's a great addition.
Speaker 1: I actually really love I think it's our third or
Speaker 1: fourth round pick this year. Uh, he seems to be
Speaker 1: like a real solid guard. Um, but it's tough. It's
Speaker 1: hard to build a line. Like people are coming from
Speaker 1: the Brown they I mean the offensive lines in general.
Speaker 1: Like you hear fans or people on the football Gatna
Speaker 1: sent there get getting mad of teams and say things like, oh,
Speaker 1: why didn't they do anything to build a line. Well,
Speaker 1: there's very few guys on the free agent pile that
Speaker 1: are worth a damn And it's a bad draft class,
Speaker 1: just like it was a bad it's hard to get.
Speaker 1: We have a dearth of offensive lineman. So I like that, Jason. Also,
Speaker 1: just by the way, drop news of a Brown's Cardinals
Speaker 1: trade that sent cornerback Jamaar Taylor. It's literally as if
Speaker 1: it's as if we are to just guys talking on
Speaker 1: the phone who actually dialed out to someone who's paying
Speaker 1: attention to the NFL. That's what this call is represented. Jay.
Speaker 1: Before we let you go, uh, from the A T
Speaker 1: A T L Debate Club, we had a a very
Speaker 1: short lived bit called, um, you know, well known character actor,
Speaker 1: famous Hollywood legend, Christopher Walkin. What if Christopher Walkin was
Speaker 1: um what was it? And he was a diehard Giants
Speaker 1: fan and he had a segment called Walking with Giants. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so before we let you go, Jay, how about a
Speaker 1: man of a million voices? Jameson Walt the latest edition
Speaker 1: and perhaps the final edition of Walking with Giants, Take
Speaker 1: it away, Christopher. How it's me Chris Walkin and I'm
Speaker 1: walking with who heroes, not just giants. I'm walking with
Speaker 1: Hans And we're here to talk about that new hot
Speaker 1: shot that's landed right there, drastic everyone wants from now,
Speaker 1: how's it going to do this year? Of course we're
Speaker 1: talking about art more like David. Wait to say, Chris, Chris,
Speaker 1: we all thought you were going down the road of
Speaker 1: se Kwon Barkley, the star running back that is expected
Speaker 1: to transform quarterback. I'm gonna replace Manning. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's the people say they feel like they found a
Speaker 1: guy that that could be an air parent in that
Speaker 1: in that quarterback trap pick. He may be right. A
Speaker 1: lot of people would be surprised that Christopher walking at
Speaker 1: a deep knowledge of the depth chart in the meadow ends.
Speaker 1: But that's just your thing. You've always been a huge
Speaker 1: Giants fan. Chris Gimbo Lula La, I actually don't even
Speaker 1: know the guy's realm uh well that was very nice.
Speaker 1: That was good, good to talk to walking. Nice work,
Speaker 1: Jay Jay. Get back to scarring your children with with
Speaker 1: programming they're they're probably not ready for. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to make sure that my my children never sleep
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. Jason Zamwald bomb on Twitter at Jason Zamwald. Bye, buddy,
Speaker 1: all right, we got time for then we got time
Speaker 1: for I think we only got time for one more.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should go to the newsroom. Um and um.
Speaker 1: Reach out to a gentleman that fans of the podcast. No, well, uh,
Speaker 1: he's a guy that he has his own rooting interest
Speaker 1: in the Carolina Panthers. Um, and he also is a
Speaker 1: guy that was looking for love. Can I speak to
Speaker 1: David Eally? Please? Yeah, thank you. We go on a kick, Dave.
Speaker 1: What's up? How's it going? Welcome back to the Round
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. How are you guys today? Doing all right? So, um,
Speaker 1: we're up against we got the Flash coming up in
Speaker 1: a second, but I wanted to touch base with you. Uh,
Speaker 1: you are more than anyone else I know. You know,
Speaker 1: a man over thirty being super plugged into the ABC
Speaker 1: program The Bachelorette, and uh, I you had some hot
Speaker 1: takes uh bubbling up yesterday and I said, well, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be doing a call and show, so do you
Speaker 1: want to get some hot takes out there? Some questions
Speaker 1: whatever about the Bachelorette. Obviously actually wrote some notes down
Speaker 1: in preparation for this. All right, let's calm down a
Speaker 1: little bit. But yeah, but what do you got? Alright,
Speaker 1: So there's there's a lot of football crossover for this
Speaker 1: season about Serette. You. We've got two former players and
Speaker 1: then a football analyst, uh pro football focuses Mike. I
Speaker 1: don't know his last name, but just we're calling PFF
Speaker 1: Mike for this, right. So first, all right, Colton Underwood,
Speaker 1: My question is is he there for the right reasons?
Speaker 1: He he he's he's not only for a few years,
Speaker 1: but he great gay notoriety. When he sent Ali Risman,
Speaker 1: the Olympian from the Nazis scene from the video asking
Speaker 1: her out, he's that to me, that schemes attention seeker.
Speaker 1: So you don't think he's there for the right reason.
Speaker 1: I do not think he's there for the right reasons.
Speaker 1: I think he wants to fame the notoriety for unlike
Speaker 1: other people on the Bachelorette he's he's seeking attention. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: he's not there, Rebecca. He is there to be on television.
Speaker 1: She's not his focus on Who is this gentleman again?
Speaker 1: Colden Underwood. Um, he is a practice squad player about
Speaker 1: from a little bit. He never appeared in the game,
Speaker 1: unlike my guy Clay Harbor. So he's Um, he's a
Speaker 1: former football player, played tight end for about seven or
Speaker 1: eight seasons. I think a hundred and fourteen career, catches,
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns. That's a real career. Yeah, we've written posts
Speaker 1: about Clay Harbor before. I know he's been in some transactions.
Speaker 1: He's he's probably bet you've written a story about him.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so he's a real player. I think that
Speaker 1: definitely means that he's gonna get He'll win an elimination
Speaker 1: at one point, he'll get a rose. But my big
Speaker 1: red side for him, he's owing two career record in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Interesting. So you think when it when the
Speaker 1: leaves turn color, when the relationship starts to hit to
Speaker 1: the to the next level, when you really got to
Speaker 1: seal the deal, you you worry that he won't be
Speaker 1: able to do it. Yeah, I feel like the pressure
Speaker 1: of a two on one date would kind of get
Speaker 1: to him. I wouldn't necessarily think that he could come
Speaker 1: through the clutch on there day if I got to
Speaker 1: be honest, when you describe the show in such an
Speaker 1: intense way, you sound dreadfully lonely. What else do you
Speaker 1: have any other anybody else? The show comes on one
Speaker 1: in what I mean, like what like Monday nights on
Speaker 1: like a hot date night or anything like that. I
Speaker 1: can be at home by myself with a dog and
Speaker 1: enjoy the show. It's no big deal. Okay, No, I
Speaker 1: wasn't hating. I was just saying, just there's an intensity
Speaker 1: the way you're talking about other people's fake club lives
Speaker 1: that that makes leaves me with some questions. But anybody
Speaker 1: else that you're scouting for the new season of The Bachelorette, well,
Speaker 1: I guess we shouldn't. We should talk about um football
Speaker 1: Twitter's favorite guy PFF Mike right now. Um I just
Speaker 1: everything I saw on on my account yesterday was just
Speaker 1: people rooting for Mike talking about Mike. It's like the
Speaker 1: whole industry he wants him to do well on the show.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think like he does seem pretty normal,
Speaker 1: And I mean, shoot, your shot. I don't know how
Speaker 1: long he's gonna last on there. I mean, I'm rooting
Speaker 1: for him. He has really long hair. From what I
Speaker 1: could tell from his profile, well, I give up over
Speaker 1: under five hair references for him. When he's on the show,
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm trying to figure out. And it's Mike
Speaker 1: Renner at PFF Underscore. Mike, He's I think he's a
Speaker 1: listener of our show. I think he follows us on Twitter,
Speaker 1: and I Mike, I've never seen him before. And then
Speaker 1: I see this bachelorettess, a tremendously good looking man, and uh,
Speaker 1: just the whole PF vibe Mark is a little strange.
Speaker 1: You have this like super hot dude. You've got people
Speaker 1: in Ireland, You've got people in England, You've got Chris
Speaker 1: Collinsworth lording Over, there's a lot going. Offices are in
Speaker 1: Cincinnati of all. I mean, I look at seeing by
Speaker 1: the way he follows us on Twitter and we follow him,
Speaker 1: so it's like we're we are, you know, in many senses,
Speaker 1: he's my front runner. I'd be rooting for him. Does
Speaker 1: PF lose him as a contributor if he wins this
Speaker 1: love contest, you're saying if he if he wins the road,
Speaker 1: I mean typically if you win this thing, you vanish
Speaker 1: into reality television realms and you're kind of you're, you know,
Speaker 1: hot property for two or three years or maybe fourteen
Speaker 1: months or so? Were my question? I mean, because when
Speaker 1: was the show tape? So as did Mike? Did Mike
Speaker 1: have to miss out our free agency for the the
Speaker 1: miss something of the playoffs? I mean, alright, what's your priority, Mike?
Speaker 1: Your job or love? Okay, well we know, David, where
Speaker 1: you put your priorities between those two according to stories
Speaker 1: that are out there, and I I don't know what
Speaker 1: you're getting with that. I mean, Dave, I can't draw
Speaker 1: your own conclusions as you want to, and I can't
Speaker 1: help Dave. But notice I've been checking your Instagram and
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing anything new with you, and and we're
Speaker 1: talking about the bats are Repp? Possibly? Do we need
Speaker 1: to do something with our own audience? We have a
Speaker 1: lot of female listeners. Uh, set something up to help
Speaker 1: you out in this in this game of love for
Speaker 1: all the female listeners on the l A area. My
Speaker 1: Instagram handled at David Elie that's d A v I
Speaker 1: D E. L ife. If you want to scour anything.
Speaker 1: I have a nice dog. I like to think of
Speaker 1: a fun life. That could be your life too. I
Speaker 1: mean it's the intensity, and it's very intense. You gotta
Speaker 1: you gott to tone it down day, you know, No,
Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta emphasize for the show. I mean,
Speaker 1: like this is a this is a visual platform. But
Speaker 1: Dave is a good looking guy. He's got a solid bod,
Speaker 1: and he's got nice he's got a symmetrical face. There.
Speaker 1: You could go a lot worse than Dave. Back in
Speaker 1: the day, Eily, there were times when you would allow me.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what the service was. It
Speaker 1: wasn't tender. Was something where you allowed me to at
Speaker 1: an establishment take you in a conversation right to the
Speaker 1: brink with like a local female, and then I would
Speaker 1: hand over the account and then I'd ask what happened?
Speaker 1: How did the date go? The date didn't happen or
Speaker 1: didn't what? What exactly or is your strategy, Dave to
Speaker 1: to kind of close the deal and get on a
Speaker 1: date with any of these women. I mean, now it's
Speaker 1: going to be started selling the fact that I got
Speaker 1: a nice spot in symmetrical face. I guess there's gotta
Speaker 1: be all right, you deserve it, Dave, somebody if you
Speaker 1: want to help, just let us know. Um, Danny gonna
Speaker 1: be watching this season. I think I might plug in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because what about you, Mark, You're gonna watch Clay Harbert listen.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've written posts about Clay Barbara. How do
Speaker 1: I not track this part of his life? I must?
Speaker 1: And Mark, what do you think about a Tuesday recap
Speaker 1: about the NFL ties to the pastor of the season.
Speaker 1: I could make that. Yeah, I think that's uh, that's
Speaker 1: and that's not going to be happening now, all right, Dave,
Speaker 1: thank you. We'll see in a little bit. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, Um, we could try to call Tybee back,
Speaker 1: but I just feel like I don't know what else
Speaker 1: it needs to be said. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: they kind of stated their intentions with two extremely rude
Speaker 1: phone calls, one that didn't even start because the bar
Speaker 1: doesn't decide to take our call. All right, So I
Speaker 1: hope everything's well and Tybee and everybody gets back safe
Speaker 1: and sound, and West fulfills his promise to get Greg
Speaker 1: into some trouble. Um. Thank you to everyone for listening
Speaker 1: and Lindsay still has not come back with any more
Speaker 1: sources about her claims that Bria is curse free, but
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I'm going there this week, and
Speaker 1: um I might just do that whole to Am ghost
Speaker 1: walk just to show you guys the burden of proof
Speaker 1: is on on you at this point, So that would
Speaker 1: be that would be good. Okay, good work on the phones.
Speaker 1: By the way, well you can see radio veteran years
Speaker 1: in Cleveland as a radio vet and uh, look at you,
Speaker 1: just shooting star. Not easy to do here with our
Speaker 1: but shadow League figures and I like that. All right,
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Monday. I think next week actually
Speaker 1: is our last week of three a week shows before
Speaker 1: we go two a week leading toward training camp. But
Speaker 1: uh yeah, we'll be back on Monday, hopefully with everybody
Speaker 1: in to until then. Uh, this is Dan Hansens signing
Speaker 1: off for the Quiet Storm. And yes, Lindsey Fulton behind
Speaker 1: the glass, not the make man. Lindsey all time behind
Speaker 1: the glass until Monday. See