Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast's freaking awesome, but welcome back.
Speaker 1: Let's do another edition of the Around the NFL podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan has and I am joined in
Speaker 1: the room that's billed with heroes Connie Fox, Colleen Wolf
Speaker 1: to others, Chris Westling and Greg Roseatal. What's up, people,
Speaker 1: it's been a minute. It's been I know, great to
Speaker 1: see you guys again, see your faces so great. You
Speaker 1: were back east in Philly doing Philly eating cheese steaks
Speaker 1: and ringing the Liberty bell things like that. Obviously ringing
Speaker 1: Theliberty bell like had to do that, and west you
Speaker 1: just got back from Tybee and we've already I feel
Speaker 1: like the Tybee event has been very well covered. We've
Speaker 1: been tracking it very closely. But now the man of
Speaker 1: the island is back. So I was curious what your
Speaker 1: overall takeaways were from the weekend. It was a fantastic,
Speaker 1: magical weekend and Greg did a good job of describing
Speaker 1: it as you almost feel like you're getting away with something.
Speaker 1: The people who live on that island have basically said
Speaker 1: to the rest of society, we're not following your conventions,
Speaker 1: we're flouting them. Um, And it can be a little obnoxious.
Speaker 1: There can be a little hedonism, but I think the
Speaker 1: redeeming value is that each of these characters has become
Speaker 1: so interesting and the way they live their lives that
Speaker 1: it's really a performance art. That the purpose of art
Speaker 1: is to create a pure moment, and I can count.
Speaker 1: I would need two hands to count the pure moments
Speaker 1: from the weekend that the like the Tourism Community Committee
Speaker 1: for the island at this point, I love it. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: what struck me as like the characters that West's friends
Speaker 1: with and they're all so different, like they're they're all
Speaker 1: such unique characters and they could not it could not
Speaker 1: be a bigger It's such a cross section of people
Speaker 1: all bringing their own like flavor to the party. By
Speaker 1: the way, that hucka poose hat is amazing. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a little exchange. I gave some Super Bowl
Speaker 1: swag to a buddy of mine and he gave me
Speaker 1: the hook. You know, there is whether it's Austin, Texas
Speaker 1: or Portland, Oregon, there is some communities that pride themselves
Speaker 1: on being different and unique, and it's like keep Austin weird,
Speaker 1: keep Portlands weird. Maybe all us talking about hucka Poo's
Speaker 1: on some level puts it in danger. We don't want
Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, basic people rolling into Tybee, right.
Speaker 1: We want to keep it weird. We don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about that. The basic people go to Hilton Head, right,
Speaker 1: and the people on Tybee drive out the basic people. Yes,
Speaker 1: they don't make them. They do not feel comfortable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I don't know if Greg told you about his
Speaker 1: gambling moment. No, definitely hides these things for us. One
Speaker 1: of the best moments of the weekend was and this
Speaker 1: is hard to explain how this happens, but I am
Speaker 1: outside and it's it's dusk, it's dark. We're playing corn
Speaker 1: hole for hours, and there is a section of the
Speaker 1: party inside in the drinking garage, and my friend Denise
Speaker 1: has created this dice game which she has called turn Ferguson,
Speaker 1: and I think she came up with a name on
Speaker 1: the spot, but sounds like I didn't even know all
Speaker 1: this was going on. But because I was playing corn
Speaker 1: hole and I look over in every like five minutes,
Speaker 1: the whole garage just erupts. And if it was in
Speaker 1: cartoon form, it would be like the roof comes off
Speaker 1: for a for a mere second and like there's this
Speaker 1: bright shining light and the whole building shakes because it
Speaker 1: just erupts in people like cheering and laughing, and and
Speaker 1: it was Greg winning. I got a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of props from my dice swag. Just the attic
Speaker 1: came in there and then just the domination. I felt
Speaker 1: like like it was crazy how Denise made it feel like.
Speaker 1: I like I was Frank Sinatra in Vegas and like
Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties and it was just you were winning,
Speaker 1: like sandwiches or food or what we like? What were
Speaker 1: you about it? Greg winked as he said that by
Speaker 1: just listening, it's the way Denise has as a performance artist.
Speaker 1: She was like Freddie Mercury working the crowd at Live Aid.
Speaker 1: She had she had the whole place in the palm
Speaker 1: of her hand for a minute. I look forward to
Speaker 1: like the Denise biopic to come out. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: so everyone's back together almost. Mark is in the wilderness,
Speaker 1: And by wilderness I mean in the middle of Los Angeles,
Speaker 1: somewhere wandering around hopefully enjoying. This is posting on Instagram?
Speaker 1: Is he I don't check. I have not been tracking,
Speaker 1: but we got a nice show coming up today. A
Speaker 1: lot of news to get to, including a very uh
Speaker 1: controversial new league rule that was agreed to by the
Speaker 1: owners and is leading to a lot of talk, A
Speaker 1: lot of talk. Streets are talking both sides of the aisle. Also,
Speaker 1: the dreaded a c L monster strikes again, hurting one
Speaker 1: of the front runners. I would say for the team
Speaker 1: of a t L uh and uh, a lot of
Speaker 1: news to get to. Oh my goodness, there's a almost
Speaker 1: a Browns trade, Christian Hackenburg update, Uh, Richie incognito updates.
Speaker 1: So much to get too. So we're gonna do a
Speaker 1: lot of news today and really dig in on what's
Speaker 1: going on in the league. During What phase are we in?
Speaker 1: Greg oft s three? Phase three? How many? I think four?
Speaker 1: Phase four? I like? I like phase four the best. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just sounds really important that we're about to get
Speaker 1: our you know, total dead period in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: We're almost there. Yeah, let's enjoy it having stuff to
Speaker 1: talk about now, and then to close the show, uh,
Speaker 1: keep it kind of open ended right now. But all
Speaker 1: you need to know is forty four seconds of freedom
Speaker 1: yep on the show. All right, I love it, but yeah,
Speaker 1: so much to get too, So let's do it starting
Speaker 1: with the news. Loose cannon back behind the glass for
Speaker 1: another day. How to go with shock? It was pretty cool,
Speaker 1: cool guy, he's a big guy. Yeah, well we do
Speaker 1: that's it's a good thing. They sent you there to
Speaker 1: find it. Well, he comes off the elevator and he's like,
Speaker 1: what we're doing when we're doing it? Well, what are
Speaker 1: we doing right now? And I'm pretty yeah, And I
Speaker 1: shook two of his fingers and I was like, so
Speaker 1: we're just going for those. I don't remember if we
Speaker 1: talked about on the show, but Erica shot something with
Speaker 1: Lakers and heat and Mavericks and Celtics, Celtics Matt and
Speaker 1: of course magic great Shaquille O'Neil uh. And it sounds
Speaker 1: like a one good people should check it out. Broadcast
Speaker 1: the broadcast. It's up. It's a good time. Let's do
Speaker 1: some news. What's your what's your name again? Ian Rappaport,
Speaker 1: do you do you color that here? Is that a
Speaker 1: real haircut? It's real? Yes, that's sold. That was Canther's
Speaker 1: owner David Tepper in his introductory press conference. So many
Speaker 1: things I loved about that one. He didn't know who
Speaker 1: Ian was, which is great, and then, uh, you know
Speaker 1: he's putting a theory out there. That's not the first
Speaker 1: time I heard that theory there atn media insider. Who's
Speaker 1: I believed posed that question. I've floated it towards in
Speaker 1: before and he has always denied it. And uh, you
Speaker 1: know it's funny Greg, when you uh sent an instant
Speaker 1: message chat about that quote yesterday, I thought that Ian
Speaker 1: asked temper if he had colored his hair, and I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, that's a little out of Uh. You know,
Speaker 1: this wasn't a one on one either. This is in
Speaker 1: front of the entire you know, room full of reporters
Speaker 1: on NFL Network. I'm not saying like NFL Network, although
Speaker 1: it's a very entertaining and informative channel, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that like you have to be watching it if you're
Speaker 1: a football fan or executive. But do you want your
Speaker 1: owner to be aware of Ian rapp report, who's on
Speaker 1: NFL network as the main news insider. I mean, do
Speaker 1: you want your own doesn't matter at all that he
Speaker 1: has no idea what's going on in NFL network. I
Speaker 1: don't think so he's rich, he owns a team. Now,
Speaker 1: anything that's good it's like he said, he's gonna yeah.
Speaker 1: Let the football people take care of that, all right,
Speaker 1: it's been settled. The job guys with your jobs for
Speaker 1: another day. The Alps will build the shoes. Well sleep, Uh,
Speaker 1: let's start yes with the news that came down on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: The NFL will enact a national Anthem policy for that
Speaker 1: requires players and league personnel on the sideline to stand,
Speaker 1: but gives them the option to remain in the locker
Speaker 1: room if they don't want to stand, Roger Goodell announced
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Under the change approved by team owners at
Speaker 1: the Spring league meeting, individual clubs will have the power
Speaker 1: to set their own policies to ensure the anthem is
Speaker 1: being respected during any on field action. If a player
Speaker 1: chooses to protest on the sideline, the NFL will find
Speaker 1: the team. The player could also be fined by the team.
Speaker 1: Rap Sheet and Judy Batista reported um this was all
Speaker 1: unanimously approved by the owners. It was kind of presented,
Speaker 1: at least from the league side, as a compromise, but
Speaker 1: the union immediately piped up and said, we weren't consulted
Speaker 1: on this, We're not happy about this, and of course
Speaker 1: this is a big story and now it's getting bigger again. Greg,
Speaker 1: it is and the most surprised. There's a lot to
Speaker 1: get into, but I'll start with the owners really focusing
Speaker 1: on the phrase getting the focus back on football in
Speaker 1: two thousand in eighteen and Roger Goodell, you know, the commissioner,
Speaker 1: talked about that a lot. And actually we we do
Speaker 1: have a clip of Goodell talking. Let's listen to that.
Speaker 1: From our standpoint, this is a great opportunity to continue
Speaker 1: that partnership with our players and keep the focus on
Speaker 1: the progress and the programs that we think are so
Speaker 1: important in the communities. We're proud of that support, and
Speaker 1: we think that that's how change is really going to
Speaker 1: be made. And I came away thinking there, I just
Speaker 1: think this policy has such a strong chance to put
Speaker 1: the focus not on football. So if the if the
Speaker 1: expressive intent of the policy literally that's what they said,
Speaker 1: is one of, if not the prime intent, and the
Speaker 1: policy is to get the focus back on football and
Speaker 1: away from politics. I think as we've seen today, but
Speaker 1: I also think it's going to continue in the next
Speaker 1: few months and into the season that that that it's
Speaker 1: gonna go against what their intent is. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: obviously such a complicated situation, and no matter how you feel,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times people start to dig
Speaker 1: their heels in even harder when this kind of thing
Speaker 1: comes up, especially when you're calling in anthem protests and originally,
Speaker 1: like as we know, it wasn't an anthem protest. It
Speaker 1: was actually a sign of respect to kneel or to
Speaker 1: link arms. And there needs to be a way for
Speaker 1: people to kind of voice their opinion when they see
Speaker 1: injustices and you can't really silence people. But the dialogue
Speaker 1: that players and the community and the teams have is
Speaker 1: the most important thing because that's the only thing that's
Speaker 1: going to lead to change. And I don't know how
Speaker 1: much this new thing helps that. It follows on somebody
Speaker 1: to watch the money. That's the owners. They got to
Speaker 1: protect the brand, and I get that that's why they
Speaker 1: acted the way they did. They reacted to the President
Speaker 1: United States, they reacted to all the controversy to protect
Speaker 1: their bank, but to protect their brand and the money
Speaker 1: that trickles down to everyone. But I I agree with
Speaker 1: both of you guys. To me, the focus is not
Speaker 1: gonna be on football. It's gonna be reporters handpicking or
Speaker 1: counting which players were in the locker room which players
Speaker 1: were not out there. So they're gonna be identified, they're
Speaker 1: gonna be castigated, they're gonna be held up to scrutiny,
Speaker 1: and it's not going to be about by the end
Speaker 1: of last season. No, there was only a few people,
Speaker 1: a few players kneeling, and relatively it was not like
Speaker 1: a huge part of the conversation. And that that's kind
Speaker 1: of what you know, It's almost like a it's not
Speaker 1: like it's just it's not just a pr problem. But
Speaker 1: if you're being real, that's part of the equation here
Speaker 1: that the NFL is trying to solve is public relations.
Speaker 1: And I think it could go against public relations and
Speaker 1: have more focused on it when when this is happening,
Speaker 1: You know what, I think what jumped out to me
Speaker 1: and why I had questions about it was the idea
Speaker 1: that the Players Association was not formally a part of it,
Speaker 1: and and Roderick Dell said that the league had spoken
Speaker 1: to tens, if not hundreds of players getting their input,
Speaker 1: but to really, to me, in my opinion, to do
Speaker 1: it right, you needed to involve the NFL p A.
Speaker 1: And if you want to call it a compromise. It
Speaker 1: has to be a true compromise where the NFL p
Speaker 1: A puts out a statement to saying we are behind
Speaker 1: what this is and if they if they can't come
Speaker 1: to an agreement, then you probably can't put in a
Speaker 1: new policy because all it's gonna do is create a
Speaker 1: situation like we have right now. So I agree with
Speaker 1: you guys that I think what this is gonna happen.
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen now is players are that maybe we're
Speaker 1: on the fence, could end up going the other way
Speaker 1: as well. They or there could be a mass decision
Speaker 1: made by players to show that they didn't like being
Speaker 1: passed over, and you could have more issues on the field.
Speaker 1: I mean it is it is maybe a Pandora's box
Speaker 1: situation right exactly that the way they had it now
Speaker 1: with no policy on some level, you know, makes more
Speaker 1: sense because there's so many things that this just opens up.
Speaker 1: Number one, like last year on the field shot Khan,
Speaker 1: Chris Johnson, many of the owners locked arms with players
Speaker 1: on the field during the anthem. Art Rooney, the owner
Speaker 1: of the Steelers, was asked a question whether he thought
Speaker 1: raising your fists or locking arms would be considered disrespectful.
Speaker 1: And he wasn't really sure about the answer what the
Speaker 1: answer to that, but he thought so yes. So I
Speaker 1: think under this policy, the actions of the owner's last
Speaker 1: year when they did that would be would be fine worthy.
Speaker 1: I guess there's but there's an absurdity to this situation
Speaker 1: that didn't home for me until I saw the Vice
Speaker 1: President's tweet with the picture of the players. And if
Speaker 1: you showed that picture to any group of people outside
Speaker 1: of this country on Earth, they would tell you that's
Speaker 1: about as respectful as human beings can act in any situations.
Speaker 1: If you showed that photo to Americans before two thousand,
Speaker 1: before this century, they would say the same thing. That's
Speaker 1: about as respectful as a person connect and that and
Speaker 1: that's it's the shame of it is that the NFL
Speaker 1: is doing a lot with the players coalition, and they're
Speaker 1: taking all these grants, and they're spending millions and millions
Speaker 1: of dollars uh in a sense to as a bridge
Speaker 1: to the players for this and to me, all that's
Speaker 1: kind of get gonna get overshadowed by by this policy.
Speaker 1: And I saw a quote that really uh struck with me.
Speaker 1: I think it was Robert Johnson, who's a very famous
Speaker 1: former district attorney general and he was like a lawyer
Speaker 1: in the Nuremberg trials. He's one of the most famous
Speaker 1: lawyers in in U s history. And the quote was
Speaker 1: to believe that patriotism will not flourish if patriotic ceremonies
Speaker 1: are voluntary and spontaneous instead of a compulsory routine. Is
Speaker 1: to make an unflattering estimate of the appeal of our
Speaker 1: institutions to free minds. And I thought that was that
Speaker 1: was kind of like a perfect quote that talks a
Speaker 1: lot about this. And the thing about this is we're
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about it as soon as week one,
Speaker 1: I mean preseason, Like you said, we're gonna be watching
Speaker 1: the sidelines. People are going to be talking about it.
Speaker 1: This isn't going to end here. And it felt like
Speaker 1: for a minute there was starting to come to an
Speaker 1: end at least um and on the field football news, Uh.
Speaker 1: The Chargers such a strong team on paper, but they
Speaker 1: took a hit on Tuesday. Third year tight end Hunter
Speaker 1: Henry suffered a torn a c l during practice. Anthony
Speaker 1: lynn Um downplayed the injury initially didn't believe it was
Speaker 1: too serious. Then learned what the diagnosis was. And this
Speaker 1: is a Chargers team that had believe it was twenty
Speaker 1: players go to i R two seasons ago. They had
Speaker 1: better injury luck last year, but they had all other
Speaker 1: issues last year, some of them brought on by themselves
Speaker 1: by moving the team kick issues. But now here's the
Speaker 1: injury bug again. And um West will start with you
Speaker 1: on this one because Hunter Henry is the name of
Speaker 1: has come up a lot in this podcast as a
Speaker 1: guy who has a chance to become a star in
Speaker 1: this offense. And now you got to hit pause on
Speaker 1: the whole situation. Charges were oh and three last year
Speaker 1: before that, before Hunter Henry entered the lineup, they went
Speaker 1: nine and for the rest of the way with him
Speaker 1: and in the lineup, emerging as one of the best
Speaker 1: all around tight ends in the NFL. I believe Pro
Speaker 1: Football Focus had him behind only Gronk. He blocks really well,
Speaker 1: he's a good red zone weapon, he moves the change,
Speaker 1: he moved the chains, and they won six or seven
Speaker 1: games down the stretch with Hunter Henry playing a big rule.
Speaker 1: I think it's a crushing blow for the for the Charger.
Speaker 1: It's such a shame because this was his year like
Speaker 1: this was his shot without Antonio Gates there for the
Speaker 1: first time in like seventy years, Hunter Henry could sort
Speaker 1: of get in there, i know, and be the focal
Speaker 1: point of the offense. And now they have a huge
Speaker 1: need at tight end, and so you have to wonder
Speaker 1: are they going to call back Antonio Gates and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know everything that we said before. And it's not
Speaker 1: like we don't even know how much he has left
Speaker 1: in the tank because it didn't really look like he
Speaker 1: had a whole lot left anyway. So maybe they kind
Speaker 1: of get over it with all of their receivers, but
Speaker 1: it's an issue now for them for sure. It's a shame.
Speaker 1: It's like they don't even let us Chargers supporters get
Speaker 1: to get to like August, like I talked about it
Speaker 1: with with um Will Brinson on his his podcast Pick
Speaker 1: six pod. People should check that out and like every
Speaker 1: there's like kind of this Chargers contingent. He's one of them.
Speaker 1: I'm one of them for sure. West is in in
Speaker 1: the mix, and it's like they don't even let us
Speaker 1: get to August with that like imaginary ideal Chargers team
Speaker 1: in our head and they always start chopping it down
Speaker 1: even before then the football gods. Yeah, because it's like,
Speaker 1: no matter what happens now with the Chargers, you always
Speaker 1: be I'll be comparing it to the this ideal Hunter
Speaker 1: Henry led Chargers team. Uh, in my head that could
Speaker 1: have happened because I think I thought how Henry I
Speaker 1: was expecting him to be one of the top three
Speaker 1: or four TEMs in the league is as crushing as
Speaker 1: this is. If they are actually a good team, they
Speaker 1: will overcome this. That's true. So it's you can't now
Speaker 1: tamp down expectations. The Patriots and other the Patriots lust
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, they figured it out. Um, Henry just happened
Speaker 1: to be kind of like the guy I was most excited.
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna be kind of their most
Speaker 1: dominant receiver as a Charger's booster. Did you consider the
Speaker 1: notion which I did not when I wrote this article.
Speaker 1: It just popped into my head that Mike Williams, the
Speaker 1: guy they drafted in the first round, could be like
Speaker 1: moved into a like a move tight end, rule a
Speaker 1: receiving tight end. But makes sense. He's got the size
Speaker 1: for it for sure, and they've got three good receivers
Speaker 1: ahead of him on the depth chart. Another by the
Speaker 1: way a c L injury was Eagles linebacker Paul Warlow,
Speaker 1: who also suffered a torn a c L uh this week.
Speaker 1: And it does. It is a reminder. It's a sobering reminder.
Speaker 1: And it sucks that these are some of the best
Speaker 1: you know, athletes in the in the country. Uh. And
Speaker 1: they are in great shape, most of them by the
Speaker 1: time they get to this time of year. But and
Speaker 1: sometimes it's just a ticking time bomb in there the
Speaker 1: knee and especially that a c L. If you go
Speaker 1: through the years, every single spring and summer, there are
Speaker 1: major A c L tears. I'll just go through a
Speaker 1: list real quick. So I wrote about this somewhat recently.
Speaker 1: Tannehill and Edelman last year, Teddy Bridgewater, we don't know
Speaker 1: what happened to him, Jordy Nelson, Kelvin, Benjamin Dante Fallard Jr.
Speaker 1: In two thousand fifteen, Shawn Lee and Sam Bradford in
Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen. There are always gonna be guys that
Speaker 1: blow their A c L training for a new season,
Speaker 1: and Hunter Henry uh is the most prominent guy this
Speaker 1: year so far. Uh. It makes you wonder about the
Speaker 1: value of reporting for voluntary o t A s. Are
Speaker 1: you doing more damage to the team by showing up
Speaker 1: and risking? Always seems to be on the first day
Speaker 1: or like like Fazzi Whittaker of the Panthers towards a
Speaker 1: c L that was on their first day of I
Speaker 1: think follows his first play of his first practice. Henry
Speaker 1: was on the first play and they asked Anthony Lynn
Speaker 1: about it Stewards and he said, Uh, it's it's nothing,
Speaker 1: you know, We're just being careful with them because we can.
Speaker 1: And then it was it was a Tony seal, Uh,
Speaker 1: the speaking of the Eagles. So they lost Warlow. They
Speaker 1: also moved on from inside linebacker and Michael Kendricks. Uh.
Speaker 1: They announced Tuesday Michael, Michael, Michael. That's what I thought,
Speaker 1: but I saw look him. Michael mispronounced his name. It
Speaker 1: is spelled with a last. Anyway, interesting move, a surprising move,
Speaker 1: Connie Fox. Uh, middle linebacker Jordan Hicks coming back from
Speaker 1: eight and achilles tendonn issue surgery. And Uh, Warlow just
Speaker 1: got hurt. He just got to the team. And yet
Speaker 1: they say goodbye to Kendricks, the guy that could probably
Speaker 1: help a lot of teams. Yeah, the linebacker position for me,
Speaker 1: is the biggest question for them right now, especially after
Speaker 1: this and Kendricks. I mean, he filled in really well
Speaker 1: for Jordan Hicks last year when he went down, and
Speaker 1: that's great for him because we know that he had
Speaker 1: asked the Eagles to be traded and we know that
Speaker 1: he kind of fell out of favor and Jim Schwartz
Speaker 1: is system. The Eagles kind of look at him as
Speaker 1: a two down player and Kendricks looks at himself as
Speaker 1: a three down player. So now he has at least
Speaker 1: some good tape out there since he got the playing time,
Speaker 1: so he has a better shot at going to a
Speaker 1: team like potentially the Steelers, who also have a needed
Speaker 1: linebacker trying to replace Ryan Shazier. But Kendricks is coming
Speaker 1: off one of his best seasons and I think we can't.
Speaker 1: I at least realized that they were going to try
Speaker 1: and shop him around when Nigel Bradham resigned with them,
Speaker 1: so that was kind of the telltale sign there. But
Speaker 1: you know, now he gets what he wanted. He wanted
Speaker 1: to be released. He's a good player. This isn't about
Speaker 1: his quality of play as much as the value of
Speaker 1: off ball linebackers. In the NFL, and the fact that
Speaker 1: the Eagles had the least amount of cap room of
Speaker 1: any team in the league, and people think, oh, well
Speaker 1: they got past free agency, what do they needed for.
Speaker 1: I mean, they literally only had three hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: of cap room, and so if you want to make
Speaker 1: some long term signings, which I know that they want
Speaker 1: to do, or change some contracts, I mean, they had
Speaker 1: no flexible ability. And he was doing seven and a
Speaker 1: half million dollars for a guy who's playing, uh, two downs.
Speaker 1: But he made a big impact, especially in those two
Speaker 1: NFC playoff games against the Vikings and the Falcons, and
Speaker 1: he thought he was their best linebacker. He's a fat
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a fast guy. Even if he's only
Speaker 1: on the field two out of three downs, it's six
Speaker 1: d and fifty snaps like that has a lot of value. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wanted to get released. He wanted to get released
Speaker 1: back in February early March. The right they're boning. They're
Speaker 1: boning them basically by letting me I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I used that right now. He is not
Speaker 1: gonna Mack. The Eagles are boning Michael. They're screwing him over.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Oh, I get it. It's late.
Speaker 1: They couldn't get a trade done. Apparently the Falcons maybe
Speaker 1: had some interest. Ian said Ian Rappaport, You're just not
Speaker 1: gonna get uh the money. You wouldn't think huge money,
Speaker 1: but a lot of teams. Does anybody get huge money
Speaker 1: in late May? No, that's what I mean. You're not
Speaker 1: going to get it, at least a ring. You never know.
Speaker 1: There's some teams that are intriguing. The Steelers. Is Ryan
Speaker 1: Shay the year's replacement? Makes sense? How about the Colts?
Speaker 1: He can rejoin Frank Wright can give them a linebacker.
Speaker 1: He got bone though I agree, I think you should
Speaker 1: stand by. They got boned in a big way. Um,
Speaker 1: alright and moving on. Uh. At the end of the
Speaker 1: it is the end of the Christian Hackenburg era. So
Speaker 1: you have to have a snap. Don't you have to
Speaker 1: be active on game day once to have an era. Yes.
Speaker 1: One of the most infamous draft picks of this decade
Speaker 1: and one of the worst in Jets history. Christian Hackenburg
Speaker 1: the fifty first overall pick in the two thousand and
Speaker 1: sixteen draft. UH in the second round, and even though
Speaker 1: the Jets were very bad team. In each of the
Speaker 1: past two years, Hackenburg never got on the field, and
Speaker 1: there's only I believe one other instance in the last
Speaker 1: thirty years or so when that happened, when it wasn't
Speaker 1: injury related. Uh, And it just wasn't happening. Hackenburg wasn't developing.
Speaker 1: The team obviously fell out of favorite with the team
Speaker 1: quit lee and even though it's the same coaching staff.
Speaker 1: That's the other surprising thing about this. It would be
Speaker 1: one thing if the first year he didn't progress well
Speaker 1: and then everybody got fired and then a new regime
Speaker 1: came in and like, oh, we don't like this guy.
Speaker 1: But it was actually the same coach, the same gm. Uh.
Speaker 1: But even through last year through five and eleven, including
Speaker 1: after Josh McCown getting hurt in early December, where there
Speaker 1: was no hope and Bryce Petty was terrible, Hacken we
Speaker 1: extildency the field uh and he was a distant fourth
Speaker 1: on the depth chart to start o t A s
Speaker 1: This week, he made some I guess negative ish comments
Speaker 1: about the Jets not helping him enough, and sure enough,
Speaker 1: about an hour later, he was moved in a trade
Speaker 1: to the Oakland Raiders for a conditional seventh round pick,
Speaker 1: which is that's it. That's the lowest you can get
Speaker 1: without being given away to another team. So Christians, I
Speaker 1: want to find out what the conditions are too, because
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna put a pen on your point.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling it's gonna be free unless he's right.
Speaker 1: It's unless he's starting games over Derek Carter. He makes
Speaker 1: the roster, I believe. Okay, so there is an answer.
Speaker 1: But John Gruden there, you think he's gonna make that roster.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean probably not. But and they have,
Speaker 1: of course their car, they have EJ. Manuel, they have
Speaker 1: Connor Cook there. So it's gonna be very hard for
Speaker 1: Hackenburg to make the roster. Todd Bowls spoke about Hackenburg
Speaker 1: and what was an obvious misfire by the Jets. Let's
Speaker 1: hear what he had to say. Any time I pick
Speaker 1: doesn't work out, I guess you're gonna look at it
Speaker 1: as a waste, and they want to pick does work out.
Speaker 1: It's not a waste. You learn lessons from everything you're
Speaker 1: doing life. It's not just football and draft picks. So
Speaker 1: if anybody's got a four leaf clover up there, button
Speaker 1: that's gonna work out every time. Please let me know
Speaker 1: that person, because hey, it didn't work out here, because
Speaker 1: you want to get the clover. Why is he developing
Speaker 1: a personality? And let me let me know that person
Speaker 1: because I gotta get gotta get a piece of that clover.
Speaker 1: But Clover, can you think of a bigger indictment of
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback then he never threw a pass on
Speaker 1: a team that started Bryce pet in seven different games
Speaker 1: over two years. Yeah, it was a damning indictment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I I the comment that he made was
Speaker 1: was interesting about the Jets, just that he's kind of
Speaker 1: overhauling his throwing motion now. And basically he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't really you know, know what was going wrong
Speaker 1: with it over the last two years. No one told me,
Speaker 1: which I'm not gonna like take Christian Hackenburg side in this,
Speaker 1: but it is worth noting. Like, you know, mcagnull was like,
Speaker 1: there was all these stories. He was like driving too
Speaker 1: Penn State through a snowstorm three different times to watch
Speaker 1: personally at Penn State, and he loved him. And I'm
Speaker 1: not shocked if they didn't have like the greatest plan
Speaker 1: for the how to develop young quarter. You gotta have
Speaker 1: a plan. It's not really smart to be back in
Speaker 1: the bus up over your coaching staff when you're on
Speaker 1: the bubble of a roster. Though. I think he saw
Speaker 1: the writing on the wall. He was like, you didn't
Speaker 1: even get any reps. Maybe it's not maybe he's just
Speaker 1: not a good player. Yeah, And if I mean that's
Speaker 1: it got him. It got him to Oakland. So actually
Speaker 1: it was kind of a good move, like he didn't
Speaker 1: gonna waste the other couple of weeks and with the Jets,
Speaker 1: it got him there. So Gruden might be literally Hackenberg's
Speaker 1: biggest fan. What he wrote about him before the two
Speaker 1: thousand sixteen draft when he was working for ESPN, basically saying,
Speaker 1: this guy should be a surefire first round pick if
Speaker 1: you see what he did his freshman year at Penn State.
Speaker 1: This guy could be the top overall pick. He thinks
Speaker 1: the coaching fixes and then and as a Jets man,
Speaker 1: there's no way to dress that up. They had. They
Speaker 1: blew it. It was embarrassing. It was the latest kind
Speaker 1: of QB. It was the biggest QB debacle for them
Speaker 1: since the butt fumble. You just hope that this is
Speaker 1: like the last laugh on them, and now I want
Speaker 1: I want him to have like lighted lighted up in
Speaker 1: the preseason under John Gruden. And then Gruden makes these
Speaker 1: kind of vague comments where it's like, wait, could he
Speaker 1: possibly bench Derek Carr for Christian Hackenburg And that's a
Speaker 1: whole story, and that would be that would actually work
Speaker 1: out for a big mac because that would be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: see there was something there. I we never gave him
Speaker 1: a chance, but we have our guy anyway now and
Speaker 1: now he's not bad. But that's probably not gonna happen alright.
Speaker 1: Another news, speaking a quarterbacks, speaking Eagles, Connie Fox loves
Speaker 1: right up loving those Eagles. It all paid off in
Speaker 1: a big way. I saw her sobbing on the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was embarrassed that, you know what. It was sweet
Speaker 1: though it was real. I don't really like to show
Speaker 1: that side of me. I was very vulnerable on the field.
Speaker 1: You you are. I wouldn't call you a closed book,
Speaker 1: but you do. You know, there's a bit of a wall.
Speaker 1: A little bit got to break through that breakthrough the wall.
Speaker 1: But when I came upon you, oh yeah you did. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I don't know that tone of Dan's voice there what
Speaker 1: do you. I was agreeing with you anyway. Colleen is
Speaker 1: an Eagles fan. That's nice and uh, do you have
Speaker 1: any comments calling? No, I just kept going back to
Speaker 1: phone in a big spot. How can I work that in?
Speaker 1: But I won't. I won't, all right anyway. Mike Silver
Speaker 1: is a calumnist for NFL Media, and uh. He reported
Speaker 1: on Tuesday that Nick Foles, of course the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: m v P. Prior to the Browns acquiring Tyrod Taylor
Speaker 1: for a third round pick from the Bills, the Browns
Speaker 1: um wanted to trade for Folds, and they were willing
Speaker 1: to give up a very early second round pick, a
Speaker 1: really nice pick overall um and to get Nick Foles
Speaker 1: and have the Super Bowl MVP on their team. But
Speaker 1: according to Silver, nick Foles said, nah, I'm good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a god in Philly. Yeah, but he's not the
Speaker 1: starting quarterback. He wouldn't be the starting quarterback in Cleveland either. Well,
Speaker 1: this is before the draft. You're probably right they were
Speaker 1: going to take a quarterback at number one, probably right,
Speaker 1: and he probably knew that, and yeah, that is a
Speaker 1: good way to look at it. So he chose, I'll
Speaker 1: stay the backup in Philly and maybe start the season.
Speaker 1: If Carson Wentz has issues for being a bridge guy
Speaker 1: or maybe not even that in Cleveland, I get that
Speaker 1: it's kind of a great scenario for him because he
Speaker 1: gets to be hailed as this hero. In Philadelphia, he's
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback and this is the guy who was
Speaker 1: thinking about retiring. So I don't know if he really
Speaker 1: like has big time aspirations now that he wants Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I feel like he can just kick his feet up.
Speaker 1: And that's wow, that's quite a statement. You're saying that
Speaker 1: he's lost the edge he did get to the top
Speaker 1: of the mountain, or you're just smart, Like, what which
Speaker 1: team would you rather be on? The Eagles or the Browns.
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's on the Eagles and he's right
Speaker 1: nothing even against the Browns in particularly, this would almost
Speaker 1: be true of any here in a minute, right, mediocre team,
Speaker 1: he's in a great situation, and when he plays for
Speaker 1: the Eagles, he's got to be feeling like he's on
Speaker 1: top of the world. And that's even if Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: is hurt or not. Like, if he plays, he's going
Speaker 1: to be playing in that Doug Peterson offense with those
Speaker 1: weapons around him. So the team that tried to pay
Speaker 1: more for Nick Foles than paid for Jimy Garoppolo also
Speaker 1: tried to pay more for a j mccaren than the
Speaker 1: forty Honors paid for Jimmy Garoppolo. I have no faith
Speaker 1: in this franchise whatsoever. And I think what people underestimate
Speaker 1: about having a franchise quarterback and getting to pay thirty
Speaker 1: million dollars for a franchise quarterback. It's like a stupidity
Speaker 1: um prevention or like a desperation governor. It keeps you
Speaker 1: from doing stupid I'm the desperation. It's like the same
Speaker 1: way Andrew Lucky used as a governor for his injuries.
Speaker 1: Like it, it prevents you from making stupid decisions like
Speaker 1: overpaying trum for an average quarter And yet, and I
Speaker 1: think Nick Foles is you know, ambivalence or you know,
Speaker 1: displeasure about this idea can absolutely prevent the deal from happening.
Speaker 1: So I've seen some people saying all the Eagles are
Speaker 1: stupid not to do this, Like Nick Foles A probably
Speaker 1: had a real saying it. If he says I don't
Speaker 1: want to go to that team, I'm definitely not, like,
Speaker 1: you know, that's gonna make the Browns not want to
Speaker 1: go after it, and on a second that, I don't
Speaker 1: think the Eagles are stupid for not doing it. I'd
Speaker 1: rather have Nick Foles. I know. That's like then that
Speaker 1: second round pick. I think it's the the most valuable
Speaker 1: thing in the world is to have Carson Wentz and
Speaker 1: then a Super Bowl m v P. At the money
Speaker 1: that they have them at. It's so cheap, and you've
Speaker 1: seen how great Nick Foles can be at its very
Speaker 1: best in that system. That's an amazing luxury. There's a
Speaker 1: team that can win the Super Bowl right now. Like,
Speaker 1: I'd rather just keep Nick Foles. You don't realize and
Speaker 1: then the second round. You don't realize how valuable backup
Speaker 1: quarterback is until you need him. What was the what
Speaker 1: was the joke that we had down in the newsroom
Speaker 1: about backup quarterbacks? Was there that bit you had the bit?
Speaker 1: My my, you know, memory only last like six months.
Speaker 1: You know that that's actually good if we judge by
Speaker 1: the Patriots two seventeen approach to backup quarterbacks, they are
Speaker 1: really invaluable right up until the trade deadline. Then you
Speaker 1: just give them away that like they're off the table.
Speaker 1: Oh year, you can't even trade for him if you
Speaker 1: wanted to give three first round picks, but then at
Speaker 1: the trade deadline they're eminently available. I forgot because it
Speaker 1: wasn't my joke. It was it was a Charlie Castle
Speaker 1: and it was It was something to the effect of,
Speaker 1: all right, see, you know, the most important person in
Speaker 1: your organization is your starting quarterback, and then the second
Speaker 1: most important person in your organization is your backup quarterback,
Speaker 1: and the third most important person in your organization is
Speaker 1: your third string quarterback. And the seventh most person in
Speaker 1: the organization is the guy who gets the balls for
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Yeah. I was trying to set you up
Speaker 1: for that. I'm glad it came because it's it's one
Speaker 1: of your uh On, speaking of this story, I love
Speaker 1: a good media slap fight. You ready for this? Did
Speaker 1: you hear about this? Oh? Yeah, Mike Silver wrote NFL Networks,
Speaker 1: NFL Media. Oh wait, I don't know about Yes, he
Speaker 1: of course penned the piece that we were just talking
Speaker 1: about about Nick Foles. He had the reporting. Uh, Mike Florio,
Speaker 1: Greg you could choose to pipe in during this conversation
Speaker 1: or a deference for the old ball. You could you
Speaker 1: could sit it out your call. Mike Florio of Pro
Speaker 1: Football Talk. Florio comes out and says on his p
Speaker 1: f T handle, I'm sure that Hugh Jackson leaking that
Speaker 1: the Browns tried to trade for Nick Foles will go
Speaker 1: over well with his boss. Oh and then what is?
Speaker 1: And then Silver replies, you don't like it. You don't
Speaker 1: like it. Silver applies, hey, Mike, one, don't be it.
Speaker 1: Two I had three sources, as cited in the story.
Speaker 1: Hugh was not one of them. Three attempted attempted source
Speaker 1: chest always troubles. Three attempted source outing is stupid. Four
Speaker 1: if you have something to say to me, text me wow.
Speaker 1: And then Mike Florio replies, hey, Mike, Silver one, you're
Speaker 1: basically Hugh's agent Wolf to everyone knows it. And then
Speaker 1: Silver comes back and Silver comes off the top rope.
Speaker 1: I'm basically your daddy. Kiss the ring. The next time
Speaker 1: you see me, I'll put you on my knee and
Speaker 1: teach you about journalism. Night's son, kissy face. What absolutely
Speaker 1: ridiculous he started it. I mean, it's true someone did
Speaker 1: start that. I don't even know if Florio replied to that,
Speaker 1: but that was yeah, Oh my god, that's amazing. I
Speaker 1: had no idea we were for like a good Twitter
Speaker 1: fight they've had. They've had some in the past. I
Speaker 1: don't think any got to this level, but they remember
Speaker 1: some when I worked. They've had some clashes. They both
Speaker 1: aren't afraid, you know, to mix it up on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I will put you on my knee and teach you
Speaker 1: about journalism. Um DJ moved the sticks, so I heard
Speaker 1: his starting a podcast. He actually tweeted at me and wrote,
Speaker 1: guess we need to step up our beef. We're very
Speaker 1: much on the undercard at the moment, which is very fair.
Speaker 1: Moving on, Oh, it's trop alert time. Triplet triplet triolet.
Speaker 1: Norv Turner. We all love North turn North Turner, what
Speaker 1: a guy the offensive coordinator of the Carolina Panthers. Uh
Speaker 1: is invoking the name of two of the most famous
Speaker 1: pocket quarterbacks that starred under his thumb. It was Troy
Speaker 1: Aikman and Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers, and the Panthers spent
Speaker 1: all of the last season building up Cam Newton, getting
Speaker 1: him away from being a running a zone read running
Speaker 1: guy being more of a Ben Roethlisberger type. And guess
Speaker 1: what Norv saying? North saying? I see cam as a
Speaker 1: guy that can get that can be in the mid
Speaker 1: to high sixties and the completion percentage UH to ESPN
Speaker 1: s David Newton and Chris Westling, this fired West out.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get under West's there's a story behind this.
Speaker 1: It involves Prolina Carolina Panthers lover David Elie. Okay, let
Speaker 1: me throw it to us and you take it from here.
Speaker 1: First of all, explained why like Elie's involved, and then
Speaker 1: tell us why this is such a trope. Eale found
Speaker 1: this story and asked me if I want to write
Speaker 1: about it. I said, I read through it, and I said,
Speaker 1: I literally could not be less interested in this story
Speaker 1: or what North Turner has to say about his delusions
Speaker 1: of a guy who won an m v P award
Speaker 1: when he threw less than six of his passes suddenly
Speaker 1: becoming like a sixty passer. This guy's lower body and
Speaker 1: upper body do not act in concert when he throws
Speaker 1: the ball, so he's never going to be a sixty
Speaker 1: seven six or or nerves dwarfs delusional or this is
Speaker 1: just another one of those may stories that you just
Speaker 1: ignore throughout the window. And Eally was so good to
Speaker 1: meet during my cancer battle, so he gets to tell
Speaker 1: me what to do. Now I ended up doing the
Speaker 1: story like I feel bad, Like, um wow, interesting sounds
Speaker 1: this sounds like my wife Emma got telling me that
Speaker 1: I wear the pants in the relationship. I'm not buying this.
Speaker 1: David Eally gets to tell West what now, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: stay away. It probably will wear off by the end
Speaker 1: of the summer. I'm sure it has like some kind
Speaker 1: of natural time limit on it where I just decide, Hey,
Speaker 1: I did my penance. Ellly's not telling me to write it.
Speaker 1: You know, my eighteenth Cam Newton story this month. It's
Speaker 1: like in the office when uh Dwight lied to Michael
Speaker 1: Scott when he tried to get his job, and then
Speaker 1: Michael Scott had Dwight do his laundry for two years.
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't put you in the Dwight shrute category here,
Speaker 1: but you're kind of saying I'm gonna do something for you,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna you're gonna put it read. I wanna
Speaker 1: go read this article now and gritted teeth that I
Speaker 1: think Eli's doing it from a place of respect. He
Speaker 1: really does find it interesting because he's such a big
Speaker 1: Cam Newton fan. He's such a big Panthers fan. I
Speaker 1: just don't find it interesting because I recognize a trope
Speaker 1: when I see I were just well, you know, I
Speaker 1: has a coach run in his mouth when I hear it. Well,
Speaker 1: it's funny because I thought you were really zero in in,
Speaker 1: specifically on the sixty completed completion percentage or six like
Speaker 1: high sixties completion percentage trope, because that is what actually
Speaker 1: every year, every year, every year there's a there's about
Speaker 1: three new quarter three quarterbacks that have a new coach,
Speaker 1: and they're like, we're gonna be in the high sixties.
Speaker 1: That's where we're. Out of those quarterbacks, what are you
Speaker 1: even talking about? And out of all those quarterbacks, Cam
Speaker 1: Newton is the least consistently accurate if anyone who was
Speaker 1: predicted to throw and not we believe that. I think
Speaker 1: he could get him some easier throws though, And that's
Speaker 1: what that's the question is Cam gonna take him find out.
Speaker 1: But the question is, like Norv, al right, this might
Speaker 1: still be this might be a trope, but Norv might
Speaker 1: not be you know, blowing smoke up r asked. He
Speaker 1: might actually believe he might believe it. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying it doesn't mean it's gonna work out that way,
Speaker 1: but that's just the coach's nature. Any coaches ask him,
Speaker 1: and I mean maybe a maybe get him to sixty
Speaker 1: in like a dream scenario. Not high. Yeah, a lot.
Speaker 1: I think Cam Newton is not inaccurate down the field.
Speaker 1: I think mid like if you think fifteen yards and on,
Speaker 1: he's better than your average quarterback. Problem is that's kind
Speaker 1: of like his main thing. And so that's what they
Speaker 1: build the whole offense around. And you're not gonna have
Speaker 1: the higher completion percentage. It didn't we here last year.
Speaker 1: They're gonna do more play actually, and their game three
Speaker 1: happens in like our offensive stuck. We need Cam to
Speaker 1: move the sticks by running the ball again on third down.
Speaker 1: More Richie Incognito news, the former Bills offensive lineman who
Speaker 1: we talked about on Monday's show. He um was released
Speaker 1: by the Bills and and intended to try to find
Speaker 1: another job. We'll see what happens with that, because because
Speaker 1: Incognito is being held for an involuntary psychiatric evaluation Wednesday
Speaker 1: after an altercation at a Florida Jim Boca Raton police
Speaker 1: said via ESPN boat Raton. Police spokesman Jessica to see
Speaker 1: Her said officers received a call from a Patreon at
Speaker 1: Lifetime Jim about a disturbance involving Incognito. He was not arrested,
Speaker 1: but it was taken into custody under Florida's Baker Act,
Speaker 1: which allows for involuntary psychiatric commitment for people seen as
Speaker 1: a danger to themselves or others. Police offered no further
Speaker 1: details on the incident thirty four years old Incognito. There
Speaker 1: was also a TMZ report that was that said that
Speaker 1: him and a buddy were drinking beers together decide he
Speaker 1: decided Incognito that he needed to talk someone, get some help,
Speaker 1: went to the center and then changed his mind and
Speaker 1: was starting to cause a ruckus. And then at that
Speaker 1: point they invoked I believe what's called the Baker Act
Speaker 1: and made him stay there. So scary situation involving Richie Incognito.
Speaker 1: I think he threw a dumbell at someone. It was
Speaker 1: one of the things he was accused of doing. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that's not good. Talking about the government. Well,
Speaker 1: it puts it puts into context. Dan, you asked, I
Speaker 1: believe last show it must have been used since we
Speaker 1: were the only people on the ship. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't maybe the bills just kind of let him
Speaker 1: come back to that You're not not allow him to
Speaker 1: be not release him from the reserve, retireless and kind
Speaker 1: of make him play for them and just kind of
Speaker 1: puts them into context, did you? Darlington? When he was
Speaker 1: working for NFL dot Com NFL Network wrote an article
Speaker 1: about incongnito a deep dive, and he said, psyched yet
Speaker 1: psychiatric issues for a while. Life is hard. I can
Speaker 1: understand how your world tips over and you can't hang on.
Speaker 1: So I hope he gets to help he neats In
Speaker 1: other news, but Ben Roethlisberger caught some heat, uh for
Speaker 1: comments that he made about not wanting to help out
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph and being upset with the Steelers for using
Speaker 1: a third round pick on a quarterback. Ben, you you
Speaker 1: thought that was kind of an issue, right, laugh. I
Speaker 1: don't know what to make of that anyway. So he
Speaker 1: walked back those comments at the start of O t
Speaker 1: AS this Week on Tuesday, which, as Greg told everyone,
Speaker 1: this is the phase three of O t A s.
Speaker 1: This is the phase three of this story. Like you
Speaker 1: could have seen every single phase. You could have said
Speaker 1: exactly what was going to happen throughout this entire off
Speaker 1: season with this, It's it's just get There is gonna
Speaker 1: be a phase for Yeah, I enjoy anything Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: controversy related. Uh, there's gonna be a phase four. I
Speaker 1: thought it lived, lived, it had a good life, enjoyed
Speaker 1: middle age, and this was the last dying gas. Let's
Speaker 1: let's see what Ben had to say about his comments
Speaker 1: and his thoughts about his teammate Mason Rudolph. I think
Speaker 1: people took some things that I said into a context
Speaker 1: that I was going to be mean or rude or whatever,
Speaker 1: and that was not it at all. If you listen
Speaker 1: to the whole conversation of you said just in laughing
Speaker 1: and having fun. So I've never been the type to
Speaker 1: just um the rude or mean to other quarterbacks. So
Speaker 1: you can ask you know, Jones, and I've had a
Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks through here. They've been younger than me
Speaker 1: that I've tried to help anyway that I can, so um,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll continue to do that. Ben, were you
Speaker 1: being serious when you told them Base four is like
Speaker 1: really going out of your way on the media attended
Speaker 1: practices to do like helpful things that the media season.
Speaker 1: Then they're talking and man, maybe phase five might be,
Speaker 1: might be there's an you know, you know, they're gonna
Speaker 1: get together and throw you know, passes with the receivers
Speaker 1: you know, before training camp, you know, off campus and stuff,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna invite Mason Rudolph kind of as a
Speaker 1: good will. Don't forget about phase six where during a
Speaker 1: media availability portion of practice, he'll be seen carrying the
Speaker 1: helmet and the shoulder pads of Mason uh in a
Speaker 1: gesture of solidarity but also a little wink and a
Speaker 1: nephew to the media. Right. I like that. I mean
Speaker 1: it's chivalrous too. We as the media have extracted every
Speaker 1: bit of news out of the story possible. The husk
Speaker 1: is dry. Phase seven is actually Mason Rudolph doesn't knocked
Speaker 1: that out, breaks his jaw in two places, and then
Speaker 1: becomes the greatest quarterback of all time. So stay tuned.
Speaker 1: That's that's what that's what's happening in the news alright.
Speaker 1: So I think I think, especially with the lead news
Speaker 1: item today we had about the national anthem and uh,
Speaker 1: the idea of what what it is is to be
Speaker 1: an American freedom of expression? What's freedom of expression done? Right? What?
Speaker 1: What can no one deny? And you could say what
Speaker 1: you want in this country? Well, you can't. You can't
Speaker 1: scream fire in a crowded movie theater, so you can't
Speaker 1: do that, and you can't make you can't do bomb
Speaker 1: bits in an airport that's out now. And you can't
Speaker 1: threaten the life of a public servant, whether it be
Speaker 1: the president or anyone else. So there are there are
Speaker 1: some things you can't do and and but other than that,
Speaker 1: you could pretty much say whatever you want. And Greg,
Speaker 1: that's what makes this country great, isn't it. It is
Speaker 1: all right? Good, that's good. I thought you were looking
Speaker 1: for the Ben Roethlisberger laught. Then then that's what's great
Speaker 1: about America, right, Okay, I just see he's passive aggressive today.
Speaker 1: Um so what we're gonna do is uh And you
Speaker 1: could thank Greg for choosing how much time we had.
Speaker 1: He Gregg decided forty four seconds was just enough freedom
Speaker 1: for each of us today. So well I came up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I came up with the idea yet and I think
Speaker 1: forty eight seconds. But then I didn't you know, we
Speaker 1: have the forty eight minutes of the a f C
Speaker 1: that time. Don't want to box yourself and I want
Speaker 1: to be predicted. So this is your idea, Greg Okay,
Speaker 1: making sure everybody knows. Humble explanation. No. So, although forty
Speaker 1: eight seconds would have been different than forty eight, but
Speaker 1: we're gonna do forty four seconds, which is totally outside
Speaker 1: the box, and no other podcast is doing this. We'll
Speaker 1: just show me one other podcast that dedicades forty four
Speaker 1: seconds to each member of the show to express themselves freely.
Speaker 1: In fact, when I heard about this, I thought I
Speaker 1: missed something and that the forty four had represented something
Speaker 1: in the news or something that happened. So then I
Speaker 1: spent about ten minutes looking around because I didn't want
Speaker 1: to let you guys know that I didn't know what
Speaker 1: was going on. Big waste of time. The right amount
Speaker 1: of time was maybe an Obama ref he was president.
Speaker 1: He was a great man, Eric Number, I believe the
Speaker 1: National hitting Streak record is forty four games, Pete, not
Speaker 1: as good as fifty six the ALE streak, and the
Speaker 1: ALE better than the n L. As we talked about Twitter, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a little Johnny come lately to the party.
Speaker 1: Of course, being there first and establishing himself. Is this
Speaker 1: going to be here? We're saying, cricket playing cricket? L
Speaker 1: All right, here we go, Colleen, you're gonna get us going.
Speaker 1: And what we're gonna do, Erica loose counter behind the glass.
Speaker 1: You're gonna time this. It's very important to hit this
Speaker 1: second because that's what it's all about as soon as
Speaker 1: it and you don't have to worry about timing or
Speaker 1: you could to know where you are, but you cut
Speaker 1: the mics, just cut it out. There's no let me
Speaker 1: get a couple of extra seconds in. Alright, I'm ready,
Speaker 1: all right here and you can start and we can
Speaker 1: just say anything we want, talk about anything other than
Speaker 1: other than the guidelines that you already put out. Fire
Speaker 1: in a theater, right, not in a theater, bomb stuff
Speaker 1: at the airport, in an airport, public servant like okay, okay,
Speaker 1: when the music starts, you start, okay go Killing Eve
Speaker 1: right now is probably the best, No, not probably. It's
Speaker 1: the best show on TV. And if you're not watching it,
Speaker 1: you're missing out. Sandro and Jody Comber, they are the
Speaker 1: two leads and they're awesome. It's about an m I
Speaker 1: five agent trying to hunt down an assassin and she's psychotic.
Speaker 1: It's wonderful. Also, I'll Be Gone in the Dark is
Speaker 1: my new favorite book, another sort of thing about a
Speaker 1: psychopath sociopath. So what does that say about me? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Shout out to super Cuts and Janine for
Speaker 1: fixing John's hair today. It looks really really good. Also,
Speaker 1: everybody follow the broadcast. I r L on Instagram and Twitter,
Speaker 1: and I've been grilling a lot lately. This is my
Speaker 1: odds and ends because I really did not. I just
Speaker 1: put some bullet points. I've been grilling a lot lately.
Speaker 1: Tweet me and recipes if you are really into anything,
Speaker 1: because I'm trying to get outside the box. Oh she's
Speaker 1: cut honey box outside the box and I am. And
Speaker 1: good job by all three of us, because I think
Speaker 1: it's very important. Yes, you could react with a chuckle
Speaker 1: or or any type of expression like that, but no
Speaker 1: speaking by anyone else. You'd give that person their freedom
Speaker 1: for those second. Colleen was creative. I didn't even didn't
Speaker 1: even mind to talk about like a million different things. Yeah, bug,
Speaker 1: it's not too late. You're gonna be the last in
Speaker 1: the boomer uh and any thoughts. What was that I'll
Speaker 1: Be Gone in the Dark. I'll Be Gone the Dark
Speaker 1: by Michelle McNamara. I just watched a forty eight hours
Speaker 1: about that yesterday, and the book apparently is incredible. I
Speaker 1: can't watch I can't read it while John isn't home
Speaker 1: like it's that. She famously she passed away last April,
Speaker 1: and then Patton Oswald, her husband widow had these two
Speaker 1: other dudes finished the book, and I was curious. It's
Speaker 1: so well done. It's awesome. She's an amazing writer, or
Speaker 1: was an amazing writer. Interested check it out? Alright, alright, West,
Speaker 1: it is your time to shine. Before I started, also
Speaker 1: echo Colleen's recommendation to follow the broadcast on all social media.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks West. Nice you're grilling too, huh yeah, stuff, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: that's great. Good for you. Okay. This is a passage
Speaker 1: from a book called Sapiens, A Brief History of I
Speaker 1: want to make sure, well, let him do that set up. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I just want to make sure you get
Speaker 1: You don't need to set up. You deserve your own
Speaker 1: forty four. It's a book passage. Everybody the European Empires
Speaker 1: did so many different things on such a large scale
Speaker 1: that you can find plenty of examples to support whatever
Speaker 1: you want to say about them. You think that these
Speaker 1: empires were evil monstrosity that spread death, oppression, and injustice
Speaker 1: around the world, you could easily fill an encyclopedia with
Speaker 1: their crimes. You want to argue that they in fact
Speaker 1: improve the conditions of their subjects with new medicines, better
Speaker 1: economic conditions, and greater security. You could fill another encyclopedia
Speaker 1: with their achievements. Due to their close cooperation with science,
Speaker 1: these empires wielded so much power and change the world
Speaker 1: to such an extent that perhaps they cannot be simply
Speaker 1: labeled as good or evil. They created the world as
Speaker 1: we know it, including the ideologies we use in order
Speaker 1: to judge them. Wow, sounds like a page turner. I
Speaker 1: just found it relevant today. The book again was Sapiens
Speaker 1: by You've all Noah Harari? Do you want to expound
Speaker 1: upon that at all? I just found it relevant for today.
Speaker 1: Maybe shouldn't. I think listeners can draw their own connections.
Speaker 1: Got you do you like that book? It's uh. I
Speaker 1: was telling calling before the show that it's it's one
Speaker 1: of the most eye opening books I've ever read and
Speaker 1: definitely the most important book I've read in the past
Speaker 1: decade or so. That's a lot because you're a big reader.
Speaker 1: Maybe our fourth of July week show should be the
Speaker 1: return of the book Club. Yes, I'm still working all
Speaker 1: that the first one, so you're gonna be in it, right.
Speaker 1: You famous that you didn't want to be involved in
Speaker 1: the book club and last time, well, I wouldn't go
Speaker 1: that far. I was away. I have a couple of looks,
Speaker 1: talk about actually I might not be here. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: might have to All right, here we go. I have
Speaker 1: a message for the person who continuously allows their dog
Speaker 1: to defecate on my front lawn and chooses not to
Speaker 1: clean up the droppings. I want you to know that
Speaker 1: I am happy you are doing this. Why because I
Speaker 1: know that I am going to catch you, and when
Speaker 1: I do, I am going to take my time with you.
Speaker 1: We are going to get to know each other very well.
Speaker 1: I won't say we'll become best friends, but you will
Speaker 1: remember my face in the same way I will be
Speaker 1: etched into your mind forever. You want to turn my
Speaker 1: lawn into your canines personal toilet. You want to be
Speaker 1: the neighborhood bad boy, Well you should know that comes
Speaker 1: with a price. The cost is everything you own and
Speaker 1: everything you love and everything you are, plus interest until
Speaker 1: we meet. And oh yes, I was so strong. It
Speaker 1: was so strong. But for the listeners at home, there
Speaker 1: was one finale and I can't say it, and you
Speaker 1: didn't get it out. Can we say it for you?
Speaker 1: He said, And we will meet. But they're going to
Speaker 1: be a ball gag involved. I can't say anything else.
Speaker 1: Freedom of expression. Again, even though this person is probably
Speaker 1: not a public servant, you can't just those yeah, those people.
Speaker 1: As a dog owner, I have bags on me at
Speaker 1: all times. I not that person. I get a lot
Speaker 1: of that. I mean, we're we're in a highly trafficked area.
Speaker 1: And also I can see out into the front from
Speaker 1: my windows, so sometimes I see them. I make sure
Speaker 1: treat yourself with respect, get a bag and clean up
Speaker 1: at your dog. Come on, all right, Greg, close this out?
Speaker 1: All right? Well, like West doing a little lit shout out,
Speaker 1: r I p to Philip Roth last night passed away
Speaker 1: one of the legends. Like I wish I kind of
Speaker 1: lived in a time where an author could have as
Speaker 1: much impact in social currency and matter as much as
Speaker 1: Philip Roth did. I mean he even among American writers.
Speaker 1: I mean, he might be the guy from the last
Speaker 1: fifty years, which is a pretty long time. Goodbye Columbus
Speaker 1: is amazing. The ghostwriter changed my life. Progorgy really all
Speaker 1: the Zuckerman bound books, and then he wrote a great,
Speaker 1: great book about his father called Patrimony. You know, they
Speaker 1: never gave him the Nobel Prize. Screw you Nobel Prize,
Speaker 1: because ultimately Philip Roth is gonna be remembered more as
Speaker 1: the guy who Oh what a cliffhanger. You have to
Speaker 1: wait next year, really do this again to find out
Speaker 1: what Philip ros is gonna be remembered. I actually I
Speaker 1: would like to help you the way Collie and helped me.
Speaker 1: But it actually I didn't hear it because the music
Speaker 1: was loud. It was ironic. What I could you want
Speaker 1: to help out? Greg? Yeah, well I think it was
Speaker 1: just one word that got cut off, right snubbed. There
Speaker 1: you go, like I was by this game. You set
Speaker 1: the time, Yeah, your frains. If you kept it forty
Speaker 1: eight seconds, you're golden. Yes, some people just hit their marks.
Speaker 1: Oh's fired? All right? Good freedom guys, Yeah, great freedom,
Speaker 1: it's great. A little freedom in the backyard. This weekend,
Speaker 1: the old Juser is gonna have a little b BQ
Speaker 1: loose canny you want to come. Hell yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be more than four seconds. Yeah, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: like having people over, you know that are outside my
Speaker 1: comfort zone. So I only I'm only having people over
Speaker 1: that I'm gonna bring Blitz in and she is going
Speaker 1: to shoot all over your yard. That's fine to bring
Speaker 1: a bag, as we talked about just now, because you
Speaker 1: know what happens. You know the way I react when
Speaker 1: people disrespect my yard. My yard. I know, I gotta
Speaker 1: get my Super Bowl clothing out of storage, get my
Speaker 1: ear muffs and hat. And is the cootest place on earth?
Speaker 1: Does have a reputation that I can't control. It's like
Speaker 1: a polar vortext. I don't know how it's true. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, so we'll be back on Friday. It is
Speaker 1: our final It is our final show of three weeks
Speaker 1: for a little bit until well about you know about
Speaker 1: six eight weeks where we do two shows a week
Speaker 1: and then um, then we'll be back full tilt, come
Speaker 1: training camp. But we're not going anywhere, right alright, good
Speaker 1: little service, Just a little note for the audience. Great show,
Speaker 1: good show, fun times. All right, let's go stand handsOn
Speaker 1: signing off. Four Contie Fox, the Mailman, the Old Boss,
Speaker 1: the Loose Cannon, the whole gang. Tell Friday