Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast spend all of their money
Speaker 1: to buy being Cooley. Welcome back to another edition of
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Jnsas
Speaker 1: and I am joined in a room that's filled with heroes.
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys?
Speaker 1: Hey Dan? Whoa whoa? Welcome back, Mark, Mark's back, Mark's back.
Speaker 1: Thank you right, thank you, good to be back, good
Speaker 1: to see again. You look I wouldn't say well rested.
Speaker 1: You look like, you know, Mark, not well arrested. Do
Speaker 1: you would you say you're you're well arrested after your vacation. No,
Speaker 1: A definitive no. We um. I had people over this
Speaker 1: weekend and Mark you had your staycation week and I
Speaker 1: knew it was going to be close. I said, oh man,
Speaker 1: are we gonna am I gonna get Mark before the
Speaker 1: clock runs out? Because I know you're having a lot
Speaker 1: of fun leading into the weekend. Sure enough, clock ran out.
Speaker 1: We only got a Mark cameo this weekend. Well the
Speaker 1: clock ran out. I mean we there was you know,
Speaker 1: Simone and I had some anniversary proceedings to uh To
Speaker 1: stationed that weekend. So that was basically that put a
Speaker 1: timeline on my time at your place. But I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I would not say I would save all the vacations
Speaker 1: that I've ever taken in my entire life. This was
Speaker 1: by far the least productive and least enjoyable week I've
Speaker 1: ever spent away from a workplace. Least enjoyable. That's surprising.
Speaker 1: Just very mundane and poorly spent from from a little
Speaker 1: bit of a distance, just seeing text, Instagram, um tweets,
Speaker 1: it just it seemed like there was it was a
Speaker 1: lot of energy around Mark in Los Angeles. Whether it
Speaker 1: was good or not, I'm not sure, but there was
Speaker 1: something energy around you. I mean there were a couple
Speaker 1: of high points, but I would say largely a massive failure. Wow. Uh, Well,
Speaker 1: it was good to see you. I'm glad you're able
Speaker 1: to make the cameo, and it was a great from
Speaker 1: what I saw, and I know that I didn't at
Speaker 1: the ends. Oh yeah, A good time, A good time,
Speaker 1: played some corn watched your three year old son rope
Speaker 1: and doubles off the wall all afternoon. He's got a
Speaker 1: nice stroke. We got in the now traditional last game
Speaker 1: of cornhole of the night, where West later uh complains
Speaker 1: that he was kind of past his limit and that's
Speaker 1: why he lost. So that was good to get in.
Speaker 1: But I only went like fifteen and one. What bears
Speaker 1: you want to say? You want to finish the you
Speaker 1: want to finish the night with the look. You guys
Speaker 1: have a lot of stay in power when it comes
Speaker 1: to me waiting to lose a game of cornhole. That's great,
Speaker 1: tough performance by John Gonzalez. Maybe we'll get that next
Speaker 1: time he's on the show. There was no trash talking
Speaker 1: this time. None. Um. Yeah, so thanks for coming over
Speaker 1: today's show. Uh, as we moved to two a week's
Speaker 1: UM for most of the next two months or so.
Speaker 1: UH begins with some talk about a veteran wide receiver
Speaker 1: that finds a home. Also a superstar wide receiver who says, hey,
Speaker 1: thanks are cool with me and my team even though
Speaker 1: I ain't getting paid yet. Uh. And then we're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about what with the NBA Finals set to kick
Speaker 1: off this week. UM, and the Golden State Warriors and
Speaker 1: Lindsay Fulton's Cleveland Cavaliers meeting for the fourth consecutive year.
Speaker 1: Congratulations Lins, Thanks, there wasn't actually if you track Lindsay
Speaker 1: on Twitter. Uh. And this is the the benefit and
Speaker 1: and and the greatness to having a true legend on
Speaker 1: on your side. You have the benefit to have a
Speaker 1: Lindsay Fulton type attitude which was never in doubt, never fear.
Speaker 1: Lebron is here. And sure enough that was enough for
Speaker 1: Cleveland and and Greg's Boston Celtics shamed on the parquet,
Speaker 1: Greg's Boston. That'll tell you it was a tough week anyway.
Speaker 1: What with you know, that is the big That's what's
Speaker 1: going on in the sports world right now. It's all
Speaker 1: about the NBA. So, hey, what's the next grade n
Speaker 1: f L rivalry? So Warriors and the Calves are incredible
Speaker 1: legendary rivalry. Now what's the next great NFL rivalry? Uh?
Speaker 1: And also a lot of people view this as a
Speaker 1: dream matchup, whether it be in the ratings in the
Speaker 1: NBA or just you know, immovable object against the unstoppable force.
Speaker 1: Although it's start, I think it's time to phase out
Speaker 1: that reference. I think it's being used too often by
Speaker 1: society now. So maybe we need a new Unstoppable Force
Speaker 1: meets the Immovable Object. We'll save that for that podcast,
Speaker 1: The Unstoppable Force meets the Movable podcast. Good placement terminology podcast,
Speaker 1: Right Between a Rock and a Hard Place. Right the
Speaker 1: dream super Bowl? What if we could choose one super Bowl?
Speaker 1: What would it be? Uh? Next February. So that's what's
Speaker 1: coming up today. Let's start by getting into the news.
Speaker 1: What am I doing with my adulthood? Well, it's an
Speaker 1: excellent que I have the Brandon Marshall got a job.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the thirty four year old wide receiver is
Speaker 1: signing with the Seattle Seahawks. Tom Pellicero of NFL Network
Speaker 1: reported Tuesday. Marshall broke the news on his Instagram account,
Speaker 1: posting a photo of himself skipping down the street in
Speaker 1: a Seahawks shirt. And this is going to be the
Speaker 1: thirteenth year for the wide receiver. Who um, really had
Speaker 1: a lost season in New York last year? Uh? The
Speaker 1: season before that, well that was with the Giants. Season
Speaker 1: for for that with the Jets was also a down year.
Speaker 1: So west the Seahawks need weapons. Is Brandon Marshall in
Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen a weapon only? Theoretically. Nothing he's done
Speaker 1: on the football field the last two years suggests that
Speaker 1: he's going to be a starting, caliber caliber wide receiver.
Speaker 1: The fact that Giants went oh and five with him
Speaker 1: in the lineup. Last year, he averaged under nine yards
Speaker 1: per reception and took it took until the third week
Speaker 1: of the season before he had more more than two receptions.
Speaker 1: And I know he's been talked about as a red
Speaker 1: zone replacement for Jimmy Graham. He's got three touchdowns on
Speaker 1: twenty red zoone targets over the last two years. Jimmy
Speaker 1: Graham has fifteen touchdowns on forty something red zoon targets.
Speaker 1: It's an uphill battle to make the team. I think,
Speaker 1: I mean to make any team. If he was looking
Speaker 1: for a team that he could, you know, wind up
Speaker 1: being a starter. This is it. They've have Tyler Lockett,
Speaker 1: Doug Baldwin and very little else. Uh Amara Darboux. I
Speaker 1: think they'd love to step up. He's a third round
Speaker 1: pick from last year, but not a lot of guys.
Speaker 1: But just looking at the contract, for instance, it's two
Speaker 1: million dollars with incentives. The minimum for a veteran of
Speaker 1: his age is about a million, So do the math.
Speaker 1: He's basically getting about the minimum with no guarantees, and
Speaker 1: he'll have to go make the team. And just based
Speaker 1: on all the surgeries he's had and how he looked
Speaker 1: last year. I'm not so sure he will. I think
Speaker 1: it's the cherry on top of one of the most
Speaker 1: suspect NFL off seasons league wide by the Seahawks. Wow.
Speaker 1: So you don't see this going anywhere. I mean, it
Speaker 1: didn't go anywhere last year. And we're still living off
Speaker 1: the fumes of his Jets season from way back when.
Speaker 1: And no so no, he was a top ten wide
Speaker 1: receiver in season, but that is a while ago now,
Speaker 1: and he's been on four teams in the last five
Speaker 1: years and his West you point out when Marshall came
Speaker 1: up a week or two ago on this podcast might
Speaker 1: not be a great sign for the Seahawks because he's
Speaker 1: over twelve uh in make attempts at the playoffs in
Speaker 1: his career. So the Seahawks, if he makes the team,
Speaker 1: Greg the Seahawks are his last shot. That's they they
Speaker 1: can use that as there. Listen, we didn't realize the
Speaker 1: hex that is involved with Brandon Marshall. We would have
Speaker 1: otherwise made the playoffs. No, you wouldn't have prediction Seahawks
Speaker 1: make the playoffs and cut Brandon Marshall along the way.
Speaker 1: That would that would hurt Moving on, Julio Jones say,
Speaker 1: I set a superstar wide receiver. Is that called one
Speaker 1: of veteran, although decorated career Greg Star, He's a star
Speaker 1: star star player was a star here and Marshall was
Speaker 1: on this show, one of us, one of our star guests.
Speaker 1: I would say, over came a lot of surgeries and injuries,
Speaker 1: possibly the most sartorially splendid guest we've ever had on
Speaker 1: the absolutely co host of Inside the NFL. My goodness,
Speaker 1: what a resume a superstar anymore? Julio Jones is a superstar,
Speaker 1: and uh he is. You know, he chose I'm not
Speaker 1: doing voluntary workouts. You know, I'm not gonna do it,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's because i want a new deal and
Speaker 1: I'm not going to risk my body out there. And
Speaker 1: I just I'd like to get something done. I'd like
Speaker 1: to get some movement. I'm paraphrasing for what he's probably thinking,
Speaker 1: so it might not even be accurate, but I think
Speaker 1: I'm accurate. And he spoke with TMZ over the weekend
Speaker 1: and he uh dismissed any talk that he's actually upset
Speaker 1: about his contract. It's not even that, Jones said. Everyone
Speaker 1: wants a story, right, now, there's no story to be told.
Speaker 1: I'm just working on getting myself better. I'm just working
Speaker 1: on myself right now. That's all that is. Uh. There's
Speaker 1: no bad blood between me and the team or anything
Speaker 1: like that. Uh. And he want on to say other stuff.
Speaker 1: Everybody's trying to destroy our relationship. Calm down, nobody really cares. Uh.
Speaker 1: Julio Jones should get paid, though, Mark right, I think
Speaker 1: that's the subtext here. I mean he's under contract now
Speaker 1: through his contract mirrors right now, essentially to Marius Thomas.
Speaker 1: He's making less per year than Davante Adams. And this
Speaker 1: is a guy who has been the anchoring force and
Speaker 1: the guy who used outside of Matt Ryan, who you
Speaker 1: print on the tickets in Atlanta for years and years,
Speaker 1: and he's been infallible for the most part. You pay him,
Speaker 1: you have to do. You have to redo these contracts
Speaker 1: at some point or you're going to create discord. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't think he's I don't think there's bad blood.
Speaker 1: I think he expects to get paid at some point.
Speaker 1: It's it might take a while. You gotta you gotta
Speaker 1: put that into account, though. When you sign a five
Speaker 1: year extension with the year left on your rookie deal,
Speaker 1: like you're you're getting a little more money for knowing
Speaker 1: that the team's gonna lock you in long term. I
Speaker 1: do like the overall. I don't feel like these o
Speaker 1: t a quote unquote hold out and they're not hold outs.
Speaker 1: That's a pet peeve because they're not You're not required
Speaker 1: to be there. I feel like they're getting less attention
Speaker 1: this year than ever. Finally, slowly, you know, Aaron Donald,
Speaker 1: Levian Bell, other people, even Brady and Grounk there that's
Speaker 1: getting attention. But relatively, I don't feel like people are
Speaker 1: flipping out about it. If I'm an NFL superstar and
Speaker 1: a veteran and I've been playing with the same quarterback,
Speaker 1: we have the same offensive coordinator coming back, you'd have
Speaker 1: to convince me why I need to come play and
Speaker 1: voluntary workouts and risk injury when you already know the system,
Speaker 1: You've already caught passes from that quarterback. It's voluntary. Don't
Speaker 1: don't do it. That zip up really brings out your
Speaker 1: green eyes? Was are they green today? Almost? Yeah? They
Speaker 1: switch colors. I think that's what they switch colors. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's what the paramore tails me it's really nice, like
Speaker 1: I choose your own adventure face on what's going on?
Speaker 1: Mind me? I need to ask you about something after
Speaker 1: the show. It's very important. This is from Dan to West.
Speaker 1: If you're listening to what a what a tease for
Speaker 1: some it's really important. I just got an Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put it in all right here, Yes, thank you.
Speaker 1: In other days, meanwhile, on the Throne of Sleeves. Uh
Speaker 1: Cassius Marsh another bro that's all about. Everybody's got a
Speaker 1: calm down about the Patriot Way, the veteran defensive end
Speaker 1: claimed off waivers by the Niners in November after nine
Speaker 1: game cameo with the Pats. I said he was miserable
Speaker 1: playing under the hood in one. Here's the quote. They
Speaker 1: don't have fun there. There's nothing fun about it. There's
Speaker 1: nothing happy about it. I didn't enjoy any of my
Speaker 1: time there. You know what I'm saying. It made me,
Speaker 1: for the first time in my life, think about not
Speaker 1: playing football because I hated it so much that much.
Speaker 1: San Francisto chronicles Eric Branch Yeah, I make some good points. Please.
Speaker 1: This is was where was this mouth that roared when
Speaker 1: he was in New England? Well, here's what he said
Speaker 1: when he was in New England. When he told Jeff
Speaker 1: how now of the athletic he said, what is it like?
Speaker 1: He said, absolutely, it's a great thing to know exactly
Speaker 1: what you're going to get. Coaches tell you what they
Speaker 1: expect from you, what your role is, and it's something
Speaker 1: I appreciate about this place. I'd like to announce that
Speaker 1: this is the start of a new trope. Alert. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's absolutely, this is it. It's across the country with
Speaker 1: people like Dan that hate the Patriots. It's the let's
Speaker 1: let's rag on the Patriots are no fun trope. They
Speaker 1: asked me to do a bunch of stuff that I
Speaker 1: had never done, covering running back, some receivers and basically
Speaker 1: almost they want versatile players, which is what I did
Speaker 1: in playing defensive line. I confronted Belichick about all those
Speaker 1: things that we're going on. I won't get into detail,
Speaker 1: but it was bs things they were doing. I just
Speaker 1: wasn't a fan and so I basically without asking to
Speaker 1: get cut, I kind of asked to get cut. I
Speaker 1: will just explains why he got dumped so quickly. They
Speaker 1: gave up a draft for him and they got rid
Speaker 1: of him. Also, the quote you read. When was that
Speaker 1: quote from It could have been before November. They know
Speaker 1: here's he had a very he had a poor season
Speaker 1: with some ugly moments that a lot of people saw
Speaker 1: on national television too. So you know that that that
Speaker 1: guys don't believe it at all. I think there's I
Speaker 1: think it's not that's that system is not every player.
Speaker 1: But when it when it's going well, you love it.
Speaker 1: And then when you're released and you're looking back and
Speaker 1: everyone feels like you were one of the players that
Speaker 1: couldn't fit into New England. He he flipped the script
Speaker 1: and said, oh, no, of course it's not a fun
Speaker 1: place to play. Well, how else maybe it's a place
Speaker 1: to Reggie Wayne and it was somebody else. You know,
Speaker 1: it's fun lifting the Lombardi Trophy. Yeah, but I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it probably isn't very fun. Can I make fun?
Speaker 1: Can I make a point Germaine to this trope? Yes?
Speaker 1: More players have given up more money to play than
Speaker 1: for the New England Patriots than any other organization. So
Speaker 1: they're doing something right. That's getting players to want to
Speaker 1: play their winning. Yeah, that's fun. Winning is really winning
Speaker 1: is a lot more fun than losing evidence. Nothing is
Speaker 1: less fun than losing. It's not for It's not gonna
Speaker 1: be for everyone. I think thought about retiring because it's
Speaker 1: so stifled in New England. I'm saying, sure, it's a trope,
Speaker 1: will have fun with that. But Bronk has also been
Speaker 1: through the through the machine where he's won a bunch
Speaker 1: of Super Bowls, He's done anything you could ask of
Speaker 1: a player, and he's had multiple parts of his body
Speaker 1: breakdown over and over. I mean, it would make you
Speaker 1: think about what else is there to accomplish? If they
Speaker 1: offered me a thirty million dollar contract right now, so
Speaker 1: no hit me in this position? What if it was
Speaker 1: how about what if it was to go work for
Speaker 1: Patriots dot com for thirty million dollars, which would be
Speaker 1: quite a landslide for any sort of a journalist. I'd
Speaker 1: rather work at McDonald's minimum wage. I wonder if he
Speaker 1: had if he thought Seattle was fun where he didn't
Speaker 1: really produce and they gave up on him fairly quick
Speaker 1: to just saying put away the clause. Okay, guys, just
Speaker 1: sharing his feelings out of situation. Yeah, tough guy. After
Speaker 1: he's cut to say, moving on, Uh, Cliff Avril, who
Speaker 1: was one of the key members of the Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 1: defense on that defensive line. Uh no longer with the team,
Speaker 1: had that neck injury that led to his release, and
Speaker 1: he was on the Dave Damas Check Football program known
Speaker 1: as the d d FP. UH. And he is the
Speaker 1: latest this is almost becoming a trope by the way,
Speaker 1: he is the latest disgruntled former Seahawks player to to
Speaker 1: hang some dirty laundry, toss some dirty laundry at the
Speaker 1: feet of Pete Carroll. Uh. Here's what he said about
Speaker 1: how the famous decision of Russell Wilson to pass the
Speaker 1: play call to make Russell Wilson pass at the end
Speaker 1: of Super Bowl forty nine, which led to the Malcolm
Speaker 1: Butler interception and the Patriots win, had long term effects
Speaker 1: on the Seahawks. I do think that, you know, the
Speaker 1: team would have brought in more into what coach Carroll
Speaker 1: was seeing instead of, you know, going the opposite way
Speaker 1: of Hey, this is what we thought, we believe, this
Speaker 1: is what we thought the foundation of the team was,
Speaker 1: and that's not what happened in that in that particular play.
Speaker 1: So I think guys started kind of questioning him a
Speaker 1: little more so then actually followed his lead if we
Speaker 1: would have won the super Well, Avril also had this
Speaker 1: to say about who was really to blame at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, the situation sucked regardless of who
Speaker 1: who took the blame. You know, it's just the fact
Speaker 1: that we were so close and we weren't able to
Speaker 1: get it. So I think a lot of guys got
Speaker 1: turned off by the message. So Wes, you had the
Speaker 1: write up on h nfl dot com slash around the
Speaker 1: NFL your thoughts, Well, first of all, it might help
Speaker 1: explain why Richard Sherman and Michael Bennett are no longer
Speaker 1: wearing Seahawks uniforms. That they are two of the most
Speaker 1: outspoken guys and if they were tuning out the head coach, Um,
Speaker 1: I can see why that decision to part with both
Speaker 1: of them might make some sense. And also, I think
Speaker 1: your mind naturally goes to Bill Belichick and Malcolm Butler
Speaker 1: and will the Patriots loose faith in him? I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone planned to lose faith in Pete Carroll. It
Speaker 1: just naturally happens after something like I think, And I
Speaker 1: don't even listening to the to the entire segment with
Speaker 1: Damna check. He wasn't coming Cliff Avroit wasn't coming hard
Speaker 1: at Pete Carroll at all. I didn't think it was
Speaker 1: remotely inflammatory. I think it was just him acknowledging the
Speaker 1: obvious of almost what had to happen in that situation,
Speaker 1: because it was that devastating a loss, the fact that
Speaker 1: they it's kind of silly almost to say it went
Speaker 1: against their principles that they threw a ball. Of course,
Speaker 1: you you throw the ball sometimes on the goal line,
Speaker 1: you run the ball sometimes on the goal. It was
Speaker 1: one play. If it happens to get knocked down, no
Speaker 1: one's ever talking about it again. But when it's just
Speaker 1: that big of a moment that changes an entire franchise's history,
Speaker 1: it's just like you're gonna get salty at the boss.
Speaker 1: Doesn't really matter whether it makes sense or not. It
Speaker 1: is interesting, though, because Belichick and Pete Carroll both coming
Speaker 1: into the conversation here, and the body of work is pristine.
Speaker 1: You would take it as any NFL fan around the league.
Speaker 1: You would take Pete Carroll and what he's done. You
Speaker 1: would certainly obviously take Bill Belichick in any field of life.
Speaker 1: And it's like instead one moment over does everything about
Speaker 1: the entire body of work that Pete Carroll loses a
Speaker 1: locker room. Think about the coaches who are struggling in
Speaker 1: the third or fourth year with teams where you're winning
Speaker 1: three or four games. What are those players thinking about
Speaker 1: those coaches. I think it's a bunch of bs. I
Speaker 1: think it's unfair to Carol. I think he maybe the
Speaker 1: decision was a wrong one. They should have run the
Speaker 1: ball with Marshawn Lynch, but Lynch wasn't able to get
Speaker 1: in in the plays before that. And on top of that,
Speaker 1: like he had, he was showing faith in his quarterback
Speaker 1: and faith in his wide receivers and faith in his
Speaker 1: offensive line. It didn't work out. And the guy who
Speaker 1: really got off the hook, because it has always been
Speaker 1: Carol wearing the goat horns, is Russell Wilson. He's the
Speaker 1: guy who through the interception, he almost gets no heat
Speaker 1: for it, and Carol all these guys. It's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons I never liked and I increasingly had issues
Speaker 1: with this that Seahawks team is that they did a
Speaker 1: lot of talking, a lot of blaming, a lot of complaining,
Speaker 1: especially as time progressed, and this is all right, fitting
Speaker 1: in with their m O, guys getting cut up, sent
Speaker 1: out the door, and now you know, rubbing dirt in
Speaker 1: people's faces. I mean, if you want to talk about
Speaker 1: one moment is and you want to talk about Belichick,
Speaker 1: isn't it the Patriots and Belichick who had seen that
Speaker 1: play earlier in the game and diagnosed it. I don't
Speaker 1: remember that deep. I mean, that's that's that's attributed to
Speaker 1: the fact that they had seen all that before and
Speaker 1: they knew what was coming. To me that these are
Speaker 1: narratives that are emotional and kind of retrofitted to to
Speaker 1: fit what happened after everything. In reality, the season after
Speaker 1: they lost that Super Bowl, they were the number one
Speaker 1: defense in football. So I don't know if they were
Speaker 1: they tuning out Pete Carroll when they were lead the
Speaker 1: league in points aloud and they were in the top four,
Speaker 1: and in offense they were. They weren't a terrible team.
Speaker 1: The next year, the defense was outstanding. They didn't win
Speaker 1: another Super Bowl. I'd like to just thank Cliff Avril
Speaker 1: for answering a question. Honestly, Yeah, I agree with that,
Speaker 1: and I agree with Greg. I don't think he had
Speaker 1: any any ill intentions towards Pete Carroll. Now what it came.
Speaker 1: I saw the headline on the pen like three or
Speaker 1: four days after he was on the check show, and
Speaker 1: I was really surprised that, and I could see why.
Speaker 1: There was nothing untrue about the headline. But he wasn't
Speaker 1: he wasn't killing, maybe not killing, but acknowledging that they were,
Speaker 1: you know, tuning out Pete Carroll. But like you were saying,
Speaker 1: they were a dominant defense the next year, they were
Speaker 1: just to me it kind of it's too easy of
Speaker 1: a yeah, it's too easy of an explanation for why
Speaker 1: you didn't get more Lombardi Trophy. You also in your
Speaker 1: own work, couldn't you tune out management above you and
Speaker 1: still achieve? Yes, I mean all the time we do that. Uh,
Speaker 1: not saying that, we're just saying right now, the common
Speaker 1: individual now everyone above us in this company, everyone has
Speaker 1: it off them, always doesn't apply, is always having our
Speaker 1: best interests at us being the little people? Uh in
Speaker 1: mind Moving on, Teddy Bridgewater, he is uh one of
Speaker 1: the remaining quarterbacks with the New York Jets. They've they
Speaker 1: got rid of Christian Hackenburgh, they got rid of Bryce Petty.
Speaker 1: So now it's Josh McCown, Teddy Bridgewater, and of course
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, the number three overall pick. According to Rich
Speaker 1: Somini of ESPN, Bridgewater's trade value is quote trending upward.
Speaker 1: Uh this coming during a time when Bridgewater has looked
Speaker 1: healthy and has throwing the ball very well. In the
Speaker 1: early stages of O T A S. Uh, Greg, you
Speaker 1: were all fired up. I wasn't wanted to get some
Speaker 1: you know, Jets assassination into today's pots so that this
Speaker 1: trade value trending up. It's almost as if that's what
Speaker 1: the Jets want, you know, it to be reported out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, give me a break. Two days into O
Speaker 1: t A S there's literally a column in the major
Speaker 1: New York newspapers Teddy Bridgewater could be Week one starter.
Speaker 1: It it's like, let's come back in the middle of August.
Speaker 1: If Teddy Bridgewater is the starter and maybe he's gonna
Speaker 1: start some preseason games, then then we can talk. I mean,
Speaker 1: what are we talking about here? One or two days
Speaker 1: of padded padless practice and we're saying his trade values
Speaker 1: going up. His knee injury was so serious and the
Speaker 1: head coach of his previous team even came out and
Speaker 1: said that the medicals and what they were seeing on
Speaker 1: the field, we're not matching up. That him coming out
Speaker 1: of in the early stages of O T A S
Speaker 1: and looking really sharp, I think is notable and does
Speaker 1: open a window for a potential trade down the line
Speaker 1: if a team is needy in practice too, for what
Speaker 1: it's worth, But I guess that's not a new thing. Well,
Speaker 1: I guess they're one of the few teams with if
Speaker 1: you look at all the QB rosters, they have three
Speaker 1: guys you could call a starter if the Jets certainly
Speaker 1: feel the way about the rookie too. That if someone
Speaker 1: loses a quarterback and you want to Sam Bradford to
Speaker 1: the Vikings like early September, type trade Bridgewaters on that
Speaker 1: short list, and it doesn't help this little hype around him. Well,
Speaker 1: I think the fact that Sam Bradford leap frogged him
Speaker 1: on a depth chart last year, the Vikings made no
Speaker 1: attempt to resign and he signed one of the worst
Speaker 1: contracts in the league, and the reports that his knee
Speaker 1: who was still on the fritz. I agree with Dan,
Speaker 1: it's notable that he can good in practice. I've been
Speaker 1: a skeptic because it's such a serious knee injury. I
Speaker 1: want to know what happens when the hitting starts. But
Speaker 1: it's good news that he looks good now. I mean
Speaker 1: the Vikings called basically their coach says that Sam Bradford
Speaker 1: had a degenerative knee scenario. And he goes and signs
Speaker 1: a massive contract with the Cardinals. So it's like, if
Speaker 1: you're desperate, you're gonna make desperate moves. We'll see to
Speaker 1: what how it plays out. Because last year McCown barely played.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you threw a preseason pass,
Speaker 1: and if he did, it was less than five or so. Uh,
Speaker 1: and that could lead to Bridgewater getting a lot of
Speaker 1: work in training camp and and in in preseason. So
Speaker 1: showcase a little showcase. We'll see all it plays out.
Speaker 1: Here's somebody who's looking at showcase himself. Still, Adrian Peterson,
Speaker 1: the future Hall of Fame running back, still doesn't have
Speaker 1: a job market very quiet. Here a pin drop on
Speaker 1: this market. Mark, that's right. So he's doing the rounds,
Speaker 1: he's doing the media rounds and chemistry between YouTube back exactly,
Speaker 1: it's it's here and it better than ever. Uh. Peterson
Speaker 1: is selling himself so he goes on ESPN's NFL Live
Speaker 1: and mentions that the Texans are on his radar as
Speaker 1: a landing spot. Here's what Peterson had to say. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I've mentioned Houston a couple of times. This seems you know,
Speaker 1: this is not kind of sad. And also it seems
Speaker 1: kind of sad. I've mentioned Houston a couple of times.
Speaker 1: I feel like Green Bay wouldn't be a bad look
Speaker 1: as well. Carolina. It just says Carolina, no other explanation.
Speaker 1: There's some options out there, you know, Miami down there
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles that would be a nice look too.
Speaker 1: With Todd Gurley, this is a sad quote to me.
Speaker 1: It's it doesn't really the best running back in my
Speaker 1: opinion of the twenty one century. And uh, that's what
Speaker 1: you're that's what you're hearing right now. It's tough to
Speaker 1: get old. And if you're if you're the Dolphins, you
Speaker 1: must pair him as not even the starter alongside Frank Gore,
Speaker 1: behind Kenyan Drake. Well, of course you would like It's
Speaker 1: like he's pleading with you to believe him, and I
Speaker 1: have offers. Wait this time. It's tough though, because you're right,
Speaker 1: like I agree, it is kind of said, but then again,
Speaker 1: like we love that players love football. He clearly just
Speaker 1: loves football. It's like the thing that he loves the
Speaker 1: most in the world, and he wants to keep doing it.
Speaker 1: Like it's kind of shame. Who's shaming him, None shaving him,
Speaker 1: just saying there's a bit of a desperation to those
Speaker 1: that those quotes, and it's it's sad because a guy
Speaker 1: that's been as great as he's been, it just shows
Speaker 1: you what it feels like. He will get a call
Speaker 1: when someone gets hurt in camp, like I wouldn't mind
Speaker 1: that guy, or Texas, I wouldn't mind cream Bay in
Speaker 1: a little reverse Brett Farve scenario where if you can
Speaker 1: get him into shape to play the Vikings, you know,
Speaker 1: early in the season and do one of his one
Speaker 1: yard acts like he did last year twice, why not
Speaker 1: I feel I don't know. I feel like the Packers like,
Speaker 1: don't bring in a progress stopping when you've got promising
Speaker 1: young backs. But the Texans have Lamar Miller coming on
Speaker 1: three point seven yards per carry and Dante Foreman tour
Speaker 1: as achilles. I still don't think there's ever been a
Speaker 1: successful return from an achilles at running back. Uh. In
Speaker 1: other news, in guys that have their s together news,
Speaker 1: Laurent de Verne Tardiff Larry. How about that? Larry? Do
Speaker 1: people call Larry Larry d T? He is the starting
Speaker 1: right guard for the Chiefs. Uh A well paid one
Speaker 1: at that. Uh. And he graduated Tuesday from McGill University
Speaker 1: in Montreal, where he earned his medical doctor at how
Speaker 1: about that? He tweeted it out wearing a photo of
Speaker 1: wearing a lab coat with his number seventy six in
Speaker 1: his name, doctor DT the full name, but I don't
Speaker 1: want to pronounce it again on the back. And uh,
Speaker 1: this is something that had been in the in the
Speaker 1: works for a while. He was a mid round draft
Speaker 1: pick a few years ago. The Chiefs knew that he
Speaker 1: was looking down to finish out his education and get
Speaker 1: the doctorate, and now he does. And my goodness, Uh, Mark,
Speaker 1: what does it say about us when Dr LT is
Speaker 1: dominating life in such a manner? Again? Very lazy us
Speaker 1: as a group compared to him. I just think, like
Speaker 1: the whole like growing up, whenever they characterized football like
Speaker 1: the linemen were just viewed across the board without exceptions,
Speaker 1: just sort of raging blockheads. And there are a few,
Speaker 1: But in the NFL, I just think that does not
Speaker 1: hold water anymore. There's something. They have to manage their
Speaker 1: bodies more than any other player to keep weight up.
Speaker 1: They have to they I I just think that this
Speaker 1: guy is an example of enough with the lughead blockhead scenario,
Speaker 1: whatever you wanna call it. They are every year the
Speaker 1: highest scoring on the Wonder. They are smart players, the
Speaker 1: offensive smart players are the best at the Wonder. Like,
Speaker 1: this guy might be the most interesting player in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Twice when he was growing up, his family went on
Speaker 1: year long sailing trips and he was there with his dad,
Speaker 1: like steering the sailboat. Signed me up for that? He
Speaker 1: learned He learned English while going through medical school and
Speaker 1: playing football in college. That's pretty that's pretty hard. Signed
Speaker 1: a five year, forty one million dollar contract a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago, So he's out there. He's a catch, ladies.
Speaker 1: What kind of wait, what kind of doctor do I think?
Speaker 1: He has a girlfriend whom he met while going through
Speaker 1: UH school. She helped him learn you gotta mention where
Speaker 1: you gotta mention the great Miguel, where my where my
Speaker 1: brother went to undergraduate and UH up in Montreal, at
Speaker 1: which I attended a few very memorable nights in my life,
Speaker 1: including some raves as like a seventeen I believe it's
Speaker 1: known as the Harvard of Canada McGill University, Guy Lane
Speaker 1: and Francois. I can't wait to go to Montreal some day, honey,
Speaker 1: us girlfriend, honey, are you listening? Lock it down, because
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna he's gonna be one of those
Speaker 1: offensive lineman that loses like a hundred pounds once he's
Speaker 1: been playing. Her name is Florence. She was a waitress
Speaker 1: at the place he used to go to when he
Speaker 1: skipped class to learn English. Wow, forget about the Royal adding,
Speaker 1: I want to see L. D. T. And like the
Speaker 1: Chiefs are like the deep the storyline here in this guy.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, Montreal's got some some banging bagel and
Speaker 1: sandwich places too, So wow, Montreal is great too. What
Speaker 1: the you know? Just saying a great restaurant. In the
Speaker 1: seventies and eighties, all the Major League Baseball players used
Speaker 1: to say that was their favorite road trip of the year,
Speaker 1: going to Montreal bringing back the Expos. Alright, alright, uh
Speaker 1: finally in the news, Uh, Mark, you might be aware
Speaker 1: of brown safety. To Marius Randall, I say you fan
Speaker 1: of him as a player? Yeah, I think he's a
Speaker 1: It's a nice signing for the Browns. Brought him over
Speaker 1: from Green Bay. Okay, okay, and uh, I guess what
Speaker 1: he's in trouble. Potentially he needs a new contract at
Speaker 1: this point. It seems like he needs LDTs contract would
Speaker 1: help him here because he tweeted out this was on
Speaker 1: UM So this was after the Calves uh beat in
Speaker 1: the Celtics advance of the NBA Finals. If the Cleveland
Speaker 1: Cavaliers win the NBA Finals, I'll buy everyone who retweets
Speaker 1: this a jersey. And as of the recording of this podcast,
Speaker 1: that had surged over three hundred thousand retweets. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get out my little work calculator here. We'll say
Speaker 1: it will be the UM not the official official jerseys,
Speaker 1: but the replicas, which run typically with tax about fifty
Speaker 1: five bucks. I think. So we're talking about, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you should have to do the real jerseys. What is
Speaker 1: this number? I can't I don't know what it means.
Speaker 1: Is that's is that one over right now? One and
Speaker 1: a half million jerseys? I mean that is when I
Speaker 1: have million dollars dollars excuse me, want and a half
Speaker 1: million dollars right now? Because he didn't even cap it.
Speaker 1: It could go even higher. Some estimates have it at
Speaker 1: one point over ten million, and now over twenty million.
Speaker 1: Well they're see there, Greek right. Mean they're pumping the
Speaker 1: numbers because they're saying, Oh, he's gonna buy the official
Speaker 1: game jersey. I'm sure that's what they're doing. Don't get cute.
Speaker 1: He would get the replica jerseys, I would think, not
Speaker 1: the official jerseys. Big difference. Should he be allowed to
Speaker 1: remove sports writers from the retweets? Yeah? Yeah, that feels
Speaker 1: a little bit precious that we've all these sports writers
Speaker 1: retweet like the move. I don't know who did or
Speaker 1: who didn't. I like the move that plugged in with
Speaker 1: the Browns reporters. Mark. He is trolling Brown's fans. He
Speaker 1: gets to Cleveland and it's kind of an o I.
Speaker 1: I went through his feed quickly and realized he's a
Speaker 1: big time Warriors fan, and this is his way of saying,
Speaker 1: I may wear a Browns jersey, but your team, the Calves,
Speaker 1: have no chance. He chumps. He called Lebron, why would
Speaker 1: you do that, like, why would you do that? Somehow
Speaker 1: puts the huge Jackson into the lake. Thing is like
Speaker 1: the less severe scenario going on, I would say, Lindsay,
Speaker 1: I would say that that would be probably matic, seeing
Speaker 1: is King James owns a city. But King James is
Speaker 1: gonna be moving in about a month and a half anyway,
Speaker 1: So I disagree completely, But we'll talk about that on
Speaker 1: the Lebron James podcast. Oh so, it's really easy for
Speaker 1: Damarius Randall to call Lebron James that when he's seen
Speaker 1: the other eleven players on the roster. M interesting, Calves
Speaker 1: aren't winning that series. Let's be read. I would say
Speaker 1: Warriors in five, but I'm going to sweet for your team, Lindsay,
Speaker 1: Calves and seven that would sweep it up. For some reason,
Speaker 1: I have more hope this year than I did last year.
Speaker 1: And the team is so much worse this year than
Speaker 1: it was terrible. It's gonna be tough. It could be
Speaker 1: a tough watch. All right, that's what's happening in the news.
Speaker 1: All right, Yes, Calves Warriors four straight years. This has
Speaker 1: never happened in North American sports, professional sports. Right, Let's
Speaker 1: this is unprecedented. The territory I have seen several tweets
Speaker 1: verifying that this has never happened. Four straight matchups of
Speaker 1: the same two teams. So with that in mind, let's
Speaker 1: talk about the NFL. What has been Greg ros thought,
Speaker 1: what has been the best NFL rivalry of this century
Speaker 1: so far? Don't say Falcon Saints. No, that's that's one
Speaker 1: of my, if not my favorite, But I wouldn't say
Speaker 1: that was the best one on balance this century. I
Speaker 1: guess i'd go Steelers Ravens. You know, Colts Patriots is
Speaker 1: probably right. There didn't last quite as long, but it
Speaker 1: was big though it was a big Pots Patriots I
Speaker 1: think was the most meaningful one I would say. I'd
Speaker 1: say most people would answer Steelers Ravens. The reason I
Speaker 1: would I lean Steelers Ravens. I think they actually had
Speaker 1: better games. There was a little more actual hatred, and
Speaker 1: they meant a lot too, So Patriots games weren't always
Speaker 1: like the class. How many times did the Steelers and
Speaker 1: Ravens meet in the a f C title game? The
Speaker 1: stakes just felt the stakes felt higher for me with
Speaker 1: Patriots called it, and it was also Brady Verse Manning.
Speaker 1: But I guess you just you picked the one that
Speaker 1: resonates more with you. To me. When I look at
Speaker 1: Peyton and be Brady, it kind of reminds me of
Speaker 1: the great nineties rivalry of Cowboys Niners. I thought it
Speaker 1: had the level stakes for the a f C Title game.
Speaker 1: Uh felt like the Super Bowl. UHL though back then
Speaker 1: like when it was kind of when it was at
Speaker 1: its peak. Certainly, Peyton Manning's I think greatest victory as
Speaker 1: a pro was the a f C Championship come back
Speaker 1: against Brady, and that was when Brady was really starting
Speaker 1: to take off. But when I think of the Manning
Speaker 1: rivalry with the Patriots, it was really a Manning Belichick
Speaker 1: rivalry and a Manning Patriots defense rivalry that was somewhat
Speaker 1: one sided. At the time, people didn't think Tom Brady
Speaker 1: was one of the eight nine best quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 1: You know. It was like they weren't quite at their
Speaker 1: peaks at the exact same time until until the latter
Speaker 1: part of the decade. Fair Okay, So with that in mind,
Speaker 1: what is the next great NFL rivalry? Mark will start
Speaker 1: with you. Well, I've got a bunch, but I think
Speaker 1: one that I could see heating up real quick and
Speaker 1: lasting for a while. Because you have two young quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: you have two young coaches, and you've got a lot
Speaker 1: of young stars on one team and another team that's
Speaker 1: in development, the forty Niners with Jimmy g versus the
Speaker 1: Rams and Sean McVeigh. I think that in that division
Speaker 1: you start right there, they're gonna play each other twice
Speaker 1: a year, and they probably play a lot of times
Speaker 1: three times a year. If things pan out the way
Speaker 1: that that you, you'd hope for high stakes and that
Speaker 1: has all the ingredients for me. I knew that would
Speaker 1: come up on the show because I think we're all
Speaker 1: high on both of those teams. Um, and I like it.
Speaker 1: I think it's fun, it's great. I love that you
Speaker 1: like it was. I have the exact same thing. Let
Speaker 1: me give you a little bit a peak of what
Speaker 1: happened at the nineteen six winter meetings. Everybody settle around
Speaker 1: the fire. We think that like all these new rules
Speaker 1: that they have, these like they have very busy winter meetings. Now, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: here's what happened in nineteen One of the NFL owners,
Speaker 1: George Preston, Marcel, owner of the Redskins, shows up to
Speaker 1: the meetings and announced it famously one of the most
Speaker 1: racist uh you know, owners and history when Jim Brown
Speaker 1: scored against him. Uh Mari Povich's father, Shirley Povich, was
Speaker 1: writing for The Washington Post, said Jim Brown integrated the
Speaker 1: goal line over and over and uh so in George
Speaker 1: Preston Marshal arrives and says that elmer Leyden, the commissioner,
Speaker 1: will get reelected over my dead body. That's how it starts.
Speaker 1: They elect Burt Bell, who goes on to be the commissioner,
Speaker 1: and he comes up with the any given Sunday quote.
Speaker 1: Love that story back in the day. Oh yeah, So
Speaker 1: we're just getting into it. Dan Topping, the owner of
Speaker 1: the Brooklyn Dodgers, which was one of the biggest teams
Speaker 1: in the league, an NFL landmark franchise, decides to leave
Speaker 1: and join the All American Football Conference, which is just starting.
Speaker 1: Dan Reeves, who owns the champion Cleveland Rams, threatens to
Speaker 1: leave the league if they don't let him go to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. In order to go to Los Angeles, the
Speaker 1: black newspaper writers have mandated that the Dot the Rams
Speaker 1: have to become integrated. So within days all of this happens.
Speaker 1: They lose a new York franchise. They moved to l
Speaker 1: A twelve years before the Brooklyn Dodgers of baseball fame
Speaker 1: moved to l A. The Rams move out there, and
Speaker 1: that starts the rivalry with the twelve years before baseball
Speaker 1: hits the West Coast, football becomes the first sport to
Speaker 1: go truly coast to coast. So this is now, it's
Speaker 1: coming all the way back around with the future. That's
Speaker 1: how it all started. It bubbled us is a flat circle.
Speaker 1: You had, you had Joe Montana and the Niners. You
Speaker 1: had Jim Everett and the Ramas. But the Niners had
Speaker 1: their number every single time. Yeah, the Rams were like
Speaker 1: the second best. That's the last time those two have
Speaker 1: really been rivalry, these two teams. I think this is
Speaker 1: like the perfect answer because in a league where the
Speaker 1: teams are gonna most of them are gonna be totally
Speaker 1: different in three or four years. I'll bet on Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan and Sean McVeigh still being there in five years
Speaker 1: and still matching wits and kind of growing up together
Speaker 1: as great head coaches in that division. Or the Niners
Speaker 1: ready now though, that's the question, are they ready in eighteen? Uh,
Speaker 1: we don't know yet, but it's a fair question. I
Speaker 1: think the offense is ready. I mean we were saying
Speaker 1: the same thing about the Rams last year, so people
Speaker 1: in the desert thinks. So people love people love the
Speaker 1: uh Niners. This year very popular team, which it makes sense,
Speaker 1: you know the way they finished last year. UM, wonder
Speaker 1: what spicy things. I can always call him up and
Speaker 1: ask him, uh, so you got you have the same one?
Speaker 1: Did you have the same thing as well? I mean
Speaker 1: that that was definitely one that was on my mind,
Speaker 1: but I had I had a few possibilities. I'll throw
Speaker 1: a player the player rivalry out, um, and it won't
Speaker 1: be one where they see each other much. In fact,
Speaker 1: they'll never be on the same field together. But for
Speaker 1: reasons that are obvious to everyone, Sam Donald versus se
Speaker 1: Kwan Barkley is gonna be a great, great, great rivalry
Speaker 1: in New York between two fan bases where you have
Speaker 1: the the guy that was supposed to be the success
Speaker 1: with Eli Manning uh ends up now being the potential
Speaker 1: successor to Joe Namath. And then you have Barkley, who
Speaker 1: the Giants love so much they decided to pass on
Speaker 1: a quarterback and let him go to Little brother next door.
Speaker 1: I think this is gonna be a really fun subplot.
Speaker 1: It makes me wish I still lived in New York
Speaker 1: because it's gonna be something that's gonna be a major
Speaker 1: talk radio UH topic and the back pages UH for
Speaker 1: years to come potentially, and you might not even know
Speaker 1: how it's gonna shake out for three years, five years,
Speaker 1: ten years. But I love that as forever. And as
Speaker 1: a Yankee fan, for instance, you always look at the
Speaker 1: Mets is on a little brother and like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: cute whatever, and Giants fans look at Jets fans the
Speaker 1: same way. It's not a real rivalry because the Jets
Speaker 1: almost play a different sport the way the Giants have
Speaker 1: operated the last sixty plus years in professional football. But now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, for the first time, the Jets
Speaker 1: might have the upper hand if something, if this clicks
Speaker 1: in the right way and it's still it will stick
Speaker 1: to the craw of every Giant fan in a way
Speaker 1: that gives me goose bumps just thinking about it. So
Speaker 1: this is very exciting time to major impact college players
Speaker 1: UH going head to head through the years, but not
Speaker 1: really head to head, but the fan bases. It will
Speaker 1: inflame the rivalry in New York. I hope so, I
Speaker 1: hope this is good though, because you don't like the Giants,
Speaker 1: so you can you could root with me on this.
Speaker 1: My issue with New York teams in every sport isn't
Speaker 1: just it every time someone sneezes its news. It's that
Speaker 1: were subjected to boring, boring teams from New York and
Speaker 1: they get all of the attention, so they just think
Speaker 1: I'm exciting. I think less so in football. You know,
Speaker 1: at least because football is the only sport where a
Speaker 1: team that's insane, they get so much that they Jets
Speaker 1: were awful, and because they had Tebow and Sanchez, everyone
Speaker 1: wanted to talk in Rex, they had a lot of attention.
Speaker 1: But the football is the only sport where you can
Speaker 1: be a team pretty off the radar and you're still
Speaker 1: kind of a national team if you're interesting enough and
Speaker 1: people talk. I was talking about the Jets and Giants
Speaker 1: last year. After a certain point, it does a lot
Speaker 1: for the beloved Snoopy Bowl. Let's let's put that into focus.
Speaker 1: That thing has got some juice behind it. Once I
Speaker 1: didn't think about that. Put that right at the top
Speaker 1: of the list. That trophy I'll put you know, the
Speaker 1: rivalry that I know if Dick ever saw, you know,
Speaker 1: was still around running NBC Sports, He's still around, he's
Speaker 1: still alive. This is the one he would put Eagles Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that's on NBC. That'll be on
Speaker 1: NBC plenty, But I do believe in Dak Prescott long term.
Speaker 1: So having Dak Prescott and Carson Wentz installed, and those
Speaker 1: two fan bases love to argue Doak versus wins in
Speaker 1: general because they're from the same draft class, and having
Speaker 1: Zeke alongside Dak kind of helps even that out because
Speaker 1: I don't think Zeke's going anywhere. I don't think Dak's
Speaker 1: going anywhere. I don't think Wentz is going anywhere. So
Speaker 1: that should be fun. And we know for it's like
Speaker 1: it's basically lock it into Sunday Night Football minimum one
Speaker 1: time a year, maybe maybe eight times. Probably there they'll
Speaker 1: just make a rule and just play like half their
Speaker 1: games against Eaji. This is a time, a little bit
Speaker 1: of a transition year. I think for the Cowboys, maybe
Speaker 1: a little surprise people and be a playoff team again,
Speaker 1: uh this year. But if they you know, go get
Speaker 1: a wide receiver down the line if they shore up
Speaker 1: the defense a little bit, and like you said, Dak
Speaker 1: and Zeke continue to progress. I don't think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are going away, and I don't think the Eagles are either.
Speaker 1: So it's just I felt the same way as you Greg.
Speaker 1: Even with a suspect wide receiver, corps and tight end,
Speaker 1: that offensive nucleus is about as valuable as anyone's. It's
Speaker 1: the defense. Are they going to be good enough to
Speaker 1: make that a rivalry with the Eagles? I have a
Speaker 1: little you know what, I can't stand rivalries that like
Speaker 1: for twenty years or pitched to you as a rivalry,
Speaker 1: but they are not, because one of the two teams
Speaker 1: is a casket, just an empty casket with nothing in it.
Speaker 1: And you've been telling me that. You've just been telling
Speaker 1: me they're they're looking for the dead body. They can't
Speaker 1: even find the dead body. You've been telling me this NFL,
Speaker 1: not at all. You've been telling me this storeroom, a storeroom.
Speaker 1: You've been telling me this about Bears Packers for decades.
Speaker 1: And I think that it would be great for that division,
Speaker 1: which to me, has been a snooze fest for years,
Speaker 1: to have the Green Bay Packers challenged by the Bears,
Speaker 1: who have an exciting young coach. You've got a young quarterback.
Speaker 1: There's a number of players on that team already that
Speaker 1: make the Bears a sneaky kind of wild card type feel.
Speaker 1: You never know. They could have a little bit of
Speaker 1: a jump, and I'd love to see them. Finally, I'm
Speaker 1: tired of handing this division, and in apologies to Vikings
Speaker 1: fans because they are probably the best team in the
Speaker 1: division right now, but just handing it to Green Bay
Speaker 1: over and over and on. The part of the reason
Speaker 1: is because you get two against the Bears every year.
Speaker 1: Give me a break with Jake Cutler and putting that
Speaker 1: match up on Monday Night Football and Sunday Football over
Speaker 1: and over. Give it some real juice and I'll watch it.
Speaker 1: Otherwise I'm not watching it. Would you be surprised if
Speaker 1: within the next year that became the toughest division in football.
Speaker 1: I think it's certainly could. It's much more exciting now
Speaker 1: because you took two boring coaches and replaced them with
Speaker 1: two innovators. It's true, we don't need another kind of
Speaker 1: three minute montage to start Sunday night football. It's like
Speaker 1: the most storied rivalry in the NFL, the Bears and
Speaker 1: Packers meeting for the hundred time, and they're always like
Speaker 1: breaking the tie of which team one more. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: I I agree. I don't care about that. I haven't.
Speaker 1: I don't hate history. I'm just saying, since i've been watching,
Speaker 1: it's been one way traffic and it hasn't been that exciting.
Speaker 1: So don't tell me about the best rivalry. All right,
Speaker 1: good talk everybody. By the way, now, before we go,
Speaker 1: everybody loves Warrior caps. Everybody wanted it, The officials wanted it. Yesterday.
Speaker 1: If you're watching the Suckets, James Harden threes are getting
Speaker 1: the slapped. I was thanking God that they did not
Speaker 1: call those, because I do not want the future of
Speaker 1: basketball to be people faking all these threes and hoping
Speaker 1: to draw fouls. It's bad for this. I know what
Speaker 1: you're saying. But he was getting hit on the arm.
Speaker 1: Don't don't do these fluke forty footers like you. Okay,
Speaker 1: as soon as my arm gets hit instead of passing,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it at the backboard. Give me a
Speaker 1: break with that nonsense. All right. All that said, I
Speaker 1: think people got what they wanted Warriors Cabs apart four.
Speaker 1: Now our dream super Bowl matchups. Let's dream a little
Speaker 1: dream here in late May. Mark, I have so many,
Speaker 1: but um I will just stop for one. I would
Speaker 1: love to see Andy Dalton and the Bengals upset the
Speaker 1: Apple Cart roll into the a f C Championship, devastate,
Speaker 1: the Steelers go to the Super Bowl and it's Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton all week long? Verse Aaron Rodgers, how possibly could
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton beat the best quarterback of all time? And
Speaker 1: then Andy Dalton does it and football is just flipped
Speaker 1: on its ass for the next two decades. That isn't
Speaker 1: even my favorite matchup, but that's the one I gave you.
Speaker 1: I like. I like your logic too, because Dalton is
Speaker 1: That would be such an amazing um build for him
Speaker 1: in a career that had seemed to flatlined. And then
Speaker 1: you get to take out the Packers, who you hate
Speaker 1: and you don't like, and you want to see them.
Speaker 1: You always want to see them take a dirt nap
Speaker 1: so on a grand stage against Andy Dalton. You love that.
Speaker 1: Be hard to live that down. I was about to
Speaker 1: argue you, but everything you just said is correct. West
Speaker 1: dream matchup? Well, Mark picked one team that is haunted.
Speaker 1: The one team in the NFL that truly is haunting
Speaker 1: and hasn't won a playoff games the Bengals. I'll pick
Speaker 1: one of the teams that everyone thinks is haunted, the
Speaker 1: Chargers against the Rams and an all Angelino super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That's what I think. The most interesting thing I said
Speaker 1: this last week going on in the NFL is what
Speaker 1: Sean mcveigh's whip whispering in Jared Goff's ear at the
Speaker 1: line of scribbage. And I get the point that play
Speaker 1: callers have been doing this for years. As less Need
Speaker 1: told us on this very podcast, there's thirty two offensive
Speaker 1: coordinators and thirty two quarterbacks. Where the edge is gained
Speaker 1: is on what that specific play caller is putting in
Speaker 1: the ear. That's where the edge is gained. And really,
Speaker 1: really smart coaches are taking advantage of that. I like that.
Speaker 1: Like that. That was my original pick up for the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl matchup as well. But I'm gonna pivot. Great
Speaker 1: scienists think, alike, what do you got? I'm gonna pivot
Speaker 1: on the spot here. I had it in my head.
Speaker 1: Do you want me to give you an extra minute? Okay?
Speaker 1: I got the Jets against literally anybody a right. That
Speaker 1: wasn't very long. That's it. Uh, that wasn't very long.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with two two organizations. I would love
Speaker 1: to see when it all the Kansas City Chiefs in
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcon. I'm in on the Falcons this year.
Speaker 1: I I would love it if they we finally get
Speaker 1: the home super Bowl this year. We thought we might
Speaker 1: have it last year in Minnesota. I think that would
Speaker 1: be exciting, exciting for an underrated sports town and certainly
Speaker 1: in terms of having some pain in their lives, Atlanta
Speaker 1: sports fans have been through a lot. And then the
Speaker 1: Chiefs is really more about Andy Reid. I would love
Speaker 1: to see Andy Reid and that offense, which is just
Speaker 1: exciting to watch, but in general, as kind of a
Speaker 1: football guy, get his due. Either one of those teams win,
Speaker 1: and I think it's a great story, very humanitarian. Here.
Speaker 1: I have a couple of new three that you would
Speaker 1: like shooting for the Walter Payton Man of the Year
Speaker 1: when I have three that three that are hand woven
Speaker 1: for you. One is just forget l A vers l A.
Speaker 1: I see what we're trying to do there. From the
Speaker 1: pr angle, we were about five miles away New York
Speaker 1: versus New York. That would be incredible and it would
Speaker 1: do what you just talked about with sequan verse Sam Donald.
Speaker 1: But how about this Eli Manning who everyone shreds and
Speaker 1: already has beheaded that if the last season he goes
Speaker 1: out with one more super Bowl win over the Patriots,
Speaker 1: that would be fantastic. Here's the even better one everyone's
Speaker 1: wondering at. The forty Niners are a playoff team, they're
Speaker 1: a super Bowl team. They go up and Jimmy g
Speaker 1: takes down Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. Now that I
Speaker 1: would love to see. That would be my dream matchup.
Speaker 1: He didn't say result. He didn't say result. He just
Speaker 1: said the matchup. I got the result. Watch out. Oh
Speaker 1: that would be so sweet. And if it was like
Speaker 1: a shell lacking too where Brady looks like that would
Speaker 1: be the end of the Patriots and Garoppolo just shreds,
Speaker 1: that would be the end of the Patriots, he says,
Speaker 1: after their fourth Super Bowl appearing in five years. No,
Speaker 1: I think I think that would break the house. That
Speaker 1: would burn the house down. All Right, good talkers, really
Speaker 1: good stuff, really really nice return by Mark who really
Speaker 1: came here. And even though he says he wasn't refreshed.
Speaker 1: He looked refreshed on the show, and he sounded refreshed,
Speaker 1: faking it. And now we're going to from here, uh
Speaker 1: sign off, And then we're gonna have a a content
Speaker 1: generation meeting. We're gonna have a little meeting on an
Speaker 1: off site location and we're gonna dream it all up again,
Speaker 1: come up with some ideas what we do. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, Gregg Popovich for the Spurs throws a little
Speaker 1: you know, junket every year for just him and his
Speaker 1: you know, just the brain child, all all of the
Speaker 1: brain children of the Spurs get together and come up
Speaker 1: with That is dream it all up again. Guys. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go stand. They had to signing off. Four Quiet Storm,
Speaker 1: the Mailman, the old Boss, Lindsey Bolton finally by still
Speaker 1: confident in lebron My good Tell. Thursday,