Speaker 1: Welcome to Guys We Fucked. Guys We Guys book. Christina,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry about last night anti sluck shaming podcast. I
Speaker 1: never stopped. Hey fucker's Welcome to another episode of Guys
Speaker 1: We Fucked. It's the anti slusham podcast. I'm Karin, I'm Christina,
Speaker 1: and welcome. H So we're gonna talk about the news today.
Speaker 1: Do you want to go first with your news item?
Speaker 1: So I was going to read I have a news
Speaker 1: item in my email. Part read the emails. Okay, gotcha,
Speaker 1: no problem. Um, So the one I want to do
Speaker 1: is uh. It's from the Independent UK and the title
Speaker 1: is Vogue Arabia sparks Anger with cover featuring Saudi princess
Speaker 1: while women activists remain in jail. So basically it's you
Speaker 1: know how Vogue has issues, different issues in every country
Speaker 1: and they put you know, some hot babe from their
Speaker 1: culture on the cover, of course, and everyone's just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, diversity, but it's just not because it's
Speaker 1: just hot people, um people, diversity. So it's the June
Speaker 1: issue of vog Arabia, which I didn't even actually know existed,
Speaker 1: but I love that it does. And it says a
Speaker 1: celebration of the trail blazing women of Saudi Arabia. And
Speaker 1: it's a Saudi princess. Um, I'm not given try to
Speaker 1: pronounce her name because its gonna be disrespectful. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, as at a certain point, this lovely, beautiful
Speaker 1: woman is a princess. Yeah, and she's so hot and
Speaker 1: she's sitting in a in a convertible car because and
Speaker 1: I had no idea because it's not really being publicized
Speaker 1: a ton, but apparently finally on June, well I knew
Speaker 1: they couldn't drive, but finally on June, the long uh
Speaker 1: ban on women driving is supposed to be lifted. Finally,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're gonna let us drive Saudi Arabia. Genis
Speaker 1: to think. Yeah, so it's like that's a huge deal
Speaker 1: and that's so exciting and everyone should know about that. However,
Speaker 1: a lot of people are complaining because recently dozens of
Speaker 1: women's rights activists have been a rested basically, um, you know,
Speaker 1: because they were you know, they were like, hey, we
Speaker 1: want to drive, and then everyone was like, no, that's
Speaker 1: going against our religion. We're gonna put you in jail.
Speaker 1: Being a horror, Yeah, because I mean the charges that
Speaker 1: that they had were encroaching on religious and national constants,
Speaker 1: which the constant was women not driving. The constance is
Speaker 1: let's keep women down. Yeah, that the constant was you're
Speaker 1: fucked if you have a vagina um. And so a
Speaker 1: lot of people are complaining because basically, like just the
Speaker 1: way in America, like politicians don't do a lot of stuff,
Speaker 1: the royalty and princesses of Saudi Arabia have been doing
Speaker 1: jack shit even though they're women, to help women go ahead.
Speaker 1: So the fact that this woman is like now, this
Speaker 1: princess is now in a car, like she was part
Speaker 1: of it and she's not. Just I I don't know
Speaker 1: the answer to this question I'm asking, but like did
Speaker 1: she try and they were like, wait for someone talking
Speaker 1: in the room and the article and try and talk
Speaker 1: to me right now. And it was a woman, so
Speaker 1: they didn't even hear it. I mean, the quote is
Speaker 1: it says these Saudi princesses have never done anything for
Speaker 1: women's rights in their country. Now they are cover girls
Speaker 1: portraying strong women and talking about the right to drive,
Speaker 1: and real activists are being questioned and jailed, which you know,
Speaker 1: I can't confirm that, but because I wasn't there, but
Speaker 1: it does seem Yeah, it's odd, right, and also this
Speaker 1: is a uk uh publication, so I trust it more
Speaker 1: than an American one. That's why I went. I was like,
Speaker 1: let me ask for my material. I think you should.
Speaker 1: So I thought it was interesting. But yeah, June, get
Speaker 1: in a car. I hope there's not a lot of
Speaker 1: accidents that day because that's really going to set us back.
Speaker 1: Don't be the Amelia Earhart of drivers, ladies. But I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I was like, God help any woman
Speaker 1: who like clips a man's bumper because there's a betting coming.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I mean honestly, yeah, And then he's gonna
Speaker 1: be like, this is why women should draw, Like you
Speaker 1: know what, motherfucker. If you would have let me learn
Speaker 1: when I was sixteen, I would have been good at this. Okay,
Speaker 1: you my hand eye coordination didn't develop like yours because
Speaker 1: you're always able to drive. Teach an old Saudi women
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Speaker 1: was a period they had these um pads. Paul Pell,
Speaker 1: who's like one of the funniest writers in human history,
Speaker 1: wrote this commercial parody about type of pad, and uh,
Speaker 1: Tina Fey was talking about the importance of diversity in
Speaker 1: a writer's room because usually if had there not been
Speaker 1: women on the staff, not the writing staff, but like,
Speaker 1: there are female directors at the time, and they're female
Speaker 1: music directors in the room when they did the table
Speaker 1: read at that sketch, they were the ones who were laughing.
Speaker 1: The men weren't laughing, But it wasn't because they were like,
Speaker 1: that's not funny at all. It was just because they
Speaker 1: didn't understand. They didn't understand what was happening. They didn't
Speaker 1: understand the joke because they didn't know how periods worked out,
Speaker 1: tampons worked out, pads work. So I encourage every man listening,
Speaker 1: you know, just just try and educate yourself and open
Speaker 1: yourself up to this because, uh, you know, you should
Speaker 1: know about it. If you're going to stick your dick
Speaker 1: in it, we should make a bumper sticker out of that. Absolutely. Ah,
Speaker 1: this is this is you again? The email? Right? Uh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I am going to read the email. I just got
Speaker 1: real pissed at the men that didn't want to stick
Speaker 1: it up but they just stick it in the booty hole. Well,
Speaker 1: to me, it's how It's also tells me that those
Speaker 1: relationships are talking, there's not a trust. There's not trust there.
Speaker 1: So this email subject line twenty two year old feminist
Speaker 1: comic raped and murdered in Melbourne, Australia. Hi, my name
Speaker 1: is I'll say it Amy. I'm a nineteen year old
Speaker 1: student nurse midwife from Melbourne, Australia who has been listening
Speaker 1: to Guys we Fucked for three years. Recently in my
Speaker 1: local city at twenty two year old feminist comedian named
Speaker 1: Euri Dice your eurro Dice Dixon. I hope I'm pronouncing
Speaker 1: her name right. I did not check that, so if
Speaker 1: I'm not, I apologize. She was raped and murdered on
Speaker 1: her way home from a comedy gig, and the city
Speaker 1: of Melbourne has gone absolutely berserk regarding women's rights, safety,
Speaker 1: violence against women, sexism in the media, are not so harsh,
Speaker 1: justice system and everything else that could be tied into
Speaker 1: a young woman being raped and murdered at night in
Speaker 1: the middle of a soccer field. I'm hearing slash seeing
Speaker 1: media about at this about this event ten to twenty
Speaker 1: times per day, and every time I do, I am
Speaker 1: wondering what YouTube women who I personally look up to
Speaker 1: would have to say about it. Being young feminist comics
Speaker 1: yourself attaches a video talking about the attack. There are
Speaker 1: many other videos and articles circling my local and national
Speaker 1: news and media outlets. Many people are using satire and
Speaker 1: sarcasm to discuss this topic as people are so disgusted
Speaker 1: and shocked that this is something that still happens in society. Uh,
Speaker 1: such as this video made by a Facebook famous male
Speaker 1: Melbourne comedian. UH. Many of the yeah, he says great things,
Speaker 1: No he doesn't. Many of the discussions happening are regarding
Speaker 1: how women are supposed to remain safe. This is because
Speaker 1: it has come down to whose fault it is that
Speaker 1: Euredice Dixon has died. The argument is why are we
Speaker 1: teaching women to be safe and not eaching men not
Speaker 1: to rape? Similar outrage happened in Melbourne almost six years
Speaker 1: ago when Jill Meager, a twenty nine year old woman,
Speaker 1: was raped and murdered on her way home from a
Speaker 1: pub in Melbourne, and her killer was allowed out on
Speaker 1: parole before his trial. Jesus Christ, I myself have never
Speaker 1: let the fear of what could happen to me as
Speaker 1: a young woman stop me from doing anything I wanted
Speaker 1: to do. I have caught uber's by myself when I
Speaker 1: have needed to. I have walked in the city at
Speaker 1: night by myself, and I have had to defend myself
Speaker 1: against men and reported them three times in a club
Speaker 1: to the manager, on a train, to the police, and
Speaker 1: in my professional setting to my UH preceptor. Luckily, I
Speaker 1: have learned everything I can to do to keep myself safe,
Speaker 1: like holding my keys in my knuckles, having my hair
Speaker 1: down so ponytail cannot be grabbed, covering my drink with
Speaker 1: my hand at all times, aiming to never be alone,
Speaker 1: knowing how to send out an emergency s OS on
Speaker 1: my phone, and most of all, reporting the three times,
Speaker 1: reporting the three times something has happened to me. But
Speaker 1: so did your Edie Stixon. I am sure she would
Speaker 1: have known the epidemic regarding women's safety and how to
Speaker 1: protect herself, and she's still got targeted, stalked, attacked, raped
Speaker 1: and murdered. In your own opinion, I'd like to know
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the issue. Do women need to be
Speaker 1: taught more ways to protect themselves? Do men need to
Speaker 1: be taught not to rape? Do you think that crimes
Speaker 1: like this will ever die out? Do you think there
Speaker 1: are way there are always going to be sinister people
Speaker 1: who would commit these crimes? Do you think this is
Speaker 1: a cultural problem? Do you think more harsh penalties for
Speaker 1: rape and domestic violence would reduce the incidences of them.
Speaker 1: Do you think that we as women will ever live
Speaker 1: in a world where we can feel safe whenever a
Speaker 1: man feels safe without the safety protective measures we enforce.
Speaker 1: Do you think it comes to a point where there's
Speaker 1: nothing society can do to prevent violence, rapes, and murders
Speaker 1: of women until after it has happened. Because while the
Speaker 1: occasions of violence rape and women might reduce on women
Speaker 1: might reduce, it will never completely stop. Thank you for
Speaker 1: reading this. Uh, please email me if you have more
Speaker 1: to talk about. I love you both so much. You've
Speaker 1: helped me feel comfortable in my own skin and shape
Speaker 1: my own ideas and beliefs in a way. You've helped
Speaker 1: me find myself. You've helped me through a shocking breakup
Speaker 1: and help me find love again towards myself and a
Speaker 1: new hunk who loves and respects me. And then she
Speaker 1: says a lot of other nice things, and uh, I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Um. Yeah, So I don't know the answers
Speaker 1: to a lot of these questions. I can't predict. The
Speaker 1: only thing I know because Corona and eye eyes have
Speaker 1: been open to how often rape happens by hearing from people. Uh,
Speaker 1: is that talking about it does do something. That's the
Speaker 1: only that's the only thing I have as a as
Speaker 1: a glimmer of hope to be honest, because I see
Speaker 1: the way that governments react that people react uh two
Speaker 1: crimes such as this woman and and and I see
Speaker 1: the way that rapists are treated, which is, you know,
Speaker 1: three of rapists in the United States get jail time,
Speaker 1: and that is h and then we have the rape
Speaker 1: kit backlog epidemic in all these major cities in Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: and and and So I don't know that's thinking about
Speaker 1: all these questions. I think about them a lot, because
Speaker 1: we get asked them a lot. And the only answer
Speaker 1: I have is we just need to keep talking about
Speaker 1: it and have conversations. Uh. Two, there's there's obviously a
Speaker 1: gap in between our understandings between this happened so often,
Speaker 1: I don't know why people do it, um but and
Speaker 1: really talking about it well will at least maybe one
Speaker 1: day it'll force somebody to ask themselves that question. We've
Speaker 1: had rapists email us before and they they have explained
Speaker 1: it to me why they aped, and the answers were
Speaker 1: different between it was only two but uh, you know
Speaker 1: they they said they hated themselves. That doesn't really help.
Speaker 1: But uh, I don't know I murder. Do we know?
Speaker 1: Do we know if this woman was attacked? Uh? Doing
Speaker 1: there was there information like who did it? Like? Was
Speaker 1: she attacked because she was a feminist comic or was
Speaker 1: that merely a coincidence? That's my main question. That is
Speaker 1: because I knew about it, and I knew that people
Speaker 1: were outraged, because the Melbourne Police, Uh, basically their response
Speaker 1: to this issue was not like, oh my god, there
Speaker 1: is a rape murderer on the loost. The their response
Speaker 1: was women have to be careful when they're coming home
Speaker 1: and listen, we're both female comedians and in this case
Speaker 1: we do have to say a female comedian because like
Speaker 1: walking home, I know lots of people who have been attacked,
Speaker 1: who have had their heads slammed against fences. I absolutely
Speaker 1: base where I've lived and have paid a lot more
Speaker 1: rent than I probably should have to live in safer
Speaker 1: spaces because I knew that I was gonna be walking
Speaker 1: home alone very late. I've had my hand on the
Speaker 1: nine one, I've dial nine one one on my cell
Speaker 1: phone and have my thumb hover over the call button.
Speaker 1: Probably I do that twice a week. It just doesn't
Speaker 1: feel strange to me because because yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I also heads up ninety one takes fucking forever.
Speaker 1: They're never kind at all. I know, and I've but
Speaker 1: I've carried my key in between my middle fingers. I
Speaker 1: have like there's you know, it's New York City. I
Speaker 1: think I feel very safe here. But I just do
Speaker 1: it as a I mean, maybe I do it because
Speaker 1: I fucking hear read all these terrible stories and hear
Speaker 1: from people all god damn day and it does have
Speaker 1: an effect on you. And uh, just in this article,
Speaker 1: it says the nineteen year old man has been charged
Speaker 1: with her rape. Police say the two did not know
Speaker 1: each other. Okay, so this is just a random attack.
Speaker 1: So because I mean, like to me, it's like there,
Speaker 1: it really doesn't matter that she is a feminist comedian.
Speaker 1: That yeah, that does not matter kind of story. And
Speaker 1: I kind of hate that, like all that A lot
Speaker 1: of these headlines are saying that. I like, he's just
Speaker 1: it's a lot. It's also it's a lot of clickbait
Speaker 1: and uh and I know because like the letter says like,
Speaker 1: you guys are feminist comedians. I do not identify as
Speaker 1: a feminist comedian and a comedian I'm a feminist comedian
Speaker 1: to me has a very like what like you're not
Speaker 1: writing jokes connotation? Um, but I mean the main problem
Speaker 1: is like, yeah, I mean the question is like, do
Speaker 1: you think this will get better? I mean women unless
Speaker 1: something happens as far as like evolution and women start
Speaker 1: getting bulk here, women are just less strong than men.
Speaker 1: And I know that's like some some can do this
Speaker 1: with a mallet, but no, just traditionally women are small, smaller.
Speaker 1: Try I hover my thumb over the call button and
Speaker 1: that's why I carry my keys because I'm like I
Speaker 1: need something. I had a guy come in to install
Speaker 1: my television last night at eleven PM, and I there
Speaker 1: was a part of me that I was like, um,
Speaker 1: I feel that I kind of want to pretend that
Speaker 1: my boyfriend's downstairs taking a shower because I didn't know
Speaker 1: who We would ended up being a fucking wonderful show.
Speaker 1: We actually bonded. He was fucking dope. He was just
Speaker 1: like blue collar Long Island guy. But I don't fucking know.
Speaker 1: But you know what, no there is one possible. Well,
Speaker 1: there's probably several solutions. But another thing I think should
Speaker 1: happen is and this will reduce the amount of sexual
Speaker 1: assault I really do feel is if more women ran
Speaker 1: for local office and we actually saw changes in the
Speaker 1: way that people that, uh, people accused of sexual assault
Speaker 1: are prosecuted and our charge and are this fucking guy
Speaker 1: was let out in Australia on bail he raped and
Speaker 1: murdered a girl, Like you really think he's just gonna
Speaker 1: go twiddle his thumbs and pay handy crushing his apartment
Speaker 1: until his trial. Now you're fucking idiot. And so I
Speaker 1: don't know. And a lot of times it seems, at
Speaker 1: least in America, that a lot of laws are being
Speaker 1: made by men. And you need to have, like Dinafay mentioned,
Speaker 1: an inclusive writer's rooms. You know, you find layers in
Speaker 1: there that you didn't know existed. We need to have
Speaker 1: a diverse body of government, and we just don't, right,
Speaker 1: And I mean, these are long term things that see.
Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me when you know women are told
Speaker 1: to play defense. It bothers me when you're told by
Speaker 1: men or by the people who are supposed to be
Speaker 1: protecting as a k the police. So that's the problem.
Speaker 1: Like we've been very open I'm talking about this podcast, like, yes,
Speaker 1: there is an ideal world in which we hope to
Speaker 1: live in one day. We don't live in that world
Speaker 1: right now. So yes, you absolutely unless you are a
Speaker 1: trained street fighter, you have to be cognizant. Like I
Speaker 1: am smaller than a lot of people walking around. If
Speaker 1: someone wanted to physically attack me, they absolutely could. And
Speaker 1: I think that's not something to pretend that isn't real
Speaker 1: to be like feminism, it doesn't matter like it is.
Speaker 1: It's a real threat. Not to be it's fact not
Speaker 1: to be scared all the time. But just you know,
Speaker 1: keep it in mind, have some kind of a fucking plan.
Speaker 1: I think half of life is like having a plan.
Speaker 1: And then like driving around in Manhattan, you're you're defensively driving.
Speaker 1: And then in response to like the police, it's like
Speaker 1: police should be patrolling the streets instead of sitting in
Speaker 1: parking lots, you know, drinking Duncan doughnuts, which is seems hacked,
Speaker 1: but I see it all the time, or like on there,
Speaker 1: you know they actually have seen a lot of cops
Speaker 1: or they're like you know, or they're like cops are
Speaker 1: placed in subway stations and instead of each person having
Speaker 1: their own separate point, they huddled together in a group
Speaker 1: of three and they're texting on their phone. And I
Speaker 1: see the ship all the time, and like, if I
Speaker 1: can think of any places, like I also do not
Speaker 1: feel unsafe very often. And I'm like, have done some
Speaker 1: crazy things for comedy. I've crossed highways at night by
Speaker 1: myself and heels like I've just done a lot of
Speaker 1: dangerous things for comedy. Uh, across a lot of highways,
Speaker 1: really taking a lot of transportation by myself, traveling places
Speaker 1: I didn't know, like real gotten in cars with people
Speaker 1: I didn't know, and all I knew was they were
Speaker 1: a man and they were comic. That's all I knew,
Speaker 1: Like real dangerous stuff. But like I have full faith
Speaker 1: in myself. Um, not that I could not that I
Speaker 1: could like truly fight someone, but I could annoy them.
Speaker 1: But also, you know, ransom of Red Chief. My mom
Speaker 1: always said that, uh, and so I that's that and
Speaker 1: I but you know, so you just that you have
Speaker 1: to think about these things. But like the police should
Speaker 1: also be taking an active measure because in the subway
Speaker 1: is I've had places where I like literally ran out
Speaker 1: because mostly homeless people but or people with mental disorders
Speaker 1: were acting in a way where I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: not gonna end well for anybody. Yeah. I had a
Speaker 1: guy charge at me once in the subway. Was just
Speaker 1: the two of us and it was like three am.
Speaker 1: I'm like that and it's really scary, and I guess
Speaker 1: I'll cabin. To me that there are subway stations without
Speaker 1: a police officer in them is really it's really crazy
Speaker 1: because it's the secluded area the subway cars, you know,
Speaker 1: late at night, things are, things are happening, and sometimes
Speaker 1: in those mt A booths they're supposed to be like
Speaker 1: a person there, it's just not alone. Yeah, ain't nobody's
Speaker 1: going to do anything, and something happens. But it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: we know all these facts, but these facts are not
Speaker 1: being you know, it's to be aware of them. Does
Speaker 1: not mean walk around paranoid all the time, because you
Speaker 1: have to find that balance. Um. And it also means
Speaker 1: I think there is just being a citizen of the
Speaker 1: world keeping an eye out for your fellow citizens, because
Speaker 1: especially in New York, it's a very like look the
Speaker 1: other way place but if you see something weird happening,
Speaker 1: if you see some behavior, if you see someone in
Speaker 1: acting right, like there are power in groups, and like
Speaker 1: you know what what we allow is what will continue,
Speaker 1: as I talk about all the time. So it's just
Speaker 1: like just nip it in the bud before it becomes
Speaker 1: a bigger problem. If something looks weird, you know, exit
Speaker 1: that subway car, wait for the next train, uh say something.
Speaker 1: Or it's a girl looks uncomfortable and it looks like
Speaker 1: she's being physically intimidated by a guy. I have done
Speaker 1: this so many fucking times. I'd be like, hey, okay,
Speaker 1: it's like a girl thing. But like every time I
Speaker 1: see a woman, I've seen I've seen women get punched
Speaker 1: in the face like probably three times since living here.
Speaker 1: And uh, every time I chase after the guy, I
Speaker 1: mean that's not probably. Also I was gonna say it
Speaker 1: was like, as a safety tip, usually better approach the victim,
Speaker 1: not the person who is the aggressor, because again, a
Speaker 1: lot of times you don't want to, you don't want
Speaker 1: to then put yourself in danger as well. That's not
Speaker 1: helping um. But sometimes it's simple like a symbol, Hey,
Speaker 1: sitting next to someone being okay, are you okay? To them?
Speaker 1: And them alone really does and that goes you know,
Speaker 1: that's not just sexual violence, that goes with racism and
Speaker 1: a lot of other things that you might experience in
Speaker 1: public settings. Yeah, it's hard. We're all trying to deal
Speaker 1: with ship and you know, it's it's just fucking let's all,
Speaker 1: let's fucking check in with each other if you sense
Speaker 1: something's awry. UM pride stuff that's on this list. Okay,
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Speaker 1: continuing in our Pride series, this is a comedian who
Speaker 1: we both just meant today. It's someone I saw on
Speaker 1: social media who's a part of the NYC comedy community
Speaker 1: and I absolutely fell in love with her. Please give
Speaker 1: a warm welcome to Gina Bloom. It's like contracted cage,
Speaker 1: feeling broken in places, reading from all these places to
Speaker 1: screaming and me from me inside I've head did not
Speaker 1: forget it. I don't need it, but forgetting Annesia a
Speaker 1: little from the inside out. Not saying I've got the worst,
Speaker 1: no saying it's the most I've been. I've been listening
Speaker 1: off to piss me off, and it's not always the
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Speaker 1: erstand whatever you go, got no friends and a fan
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Speaker 1: black soul we are here with Gina Bloom. Hi, Hi
Speaker 1: you guys. We just getting We just got right into it,
Speaker 1: which I love. Yeah, were like sitting a chair and
Speaker 1: go the chair you're on, tell us your life story. Well,
Speaker 1: anytime we're sitting around with people before interviews, they always
Speaker 1: start spilling the best stuff and we're like wait wa
Speaker 1: wait wait wait wait wait, we gotta get this something mix. Yes,
Speaker 1: we want to record it. I got you. So I
Speaker 1: want to start out with When I was messaging you
Speaker 1: to get on the podcast, you said that you perhaps
Speaker 1: would have an exclusive for us based on last evening.
Speaker 1: How did it go? We're going on a date? I'm no,
Speaker 1: Actually it was like a prep for a date. Um,
Speaker 1: so I am a transgender lady. And um, the hormones
Speaker 1: that you take, well they form your body the way
Speaker 1: you like, they kind of do stuff down here, and
Speaker 1: I am not. I'm sorry, this is not a visual medium. Um,
Speaker 1: what kind of stuff? Well, it makes it like not
Speaker 1: function very well after a while. Like I've been on
Speaker 1: it now three years and like it doesn't really work
Speaker 1: all that well. And I want to feel good during sex.
Speaker 1: I love sex. I have a lot of sex with
Speaker 1: all kinds of different people and like, and everyone is
Speaker 1: really interested in all that down there, and like, I
Speaker 1: want them to enjoy it, and I want to enjoy it.
Speaker 1: So may I ask, what what's your your sitches down there?
Speaker 1: I don't That's probably a shitty way to ask that question,
Speaker 1: but there's the purposes of the podcast. You had gender confirmation.
Speaker 1: That's the better way. I am preoperative slash non operative.
Speaker 1: I have all original parts down there and all original
Speaker 1: parts up on top two. I don't have boobs yet,
Speaker 1: although I get them in January and very excited Christmas.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I you haven't thought. No, no, they have,
Speaker 1: but they're like, don't think about cup size, think about
Speaker 1: like your body and like the way that you you know,
Speaker 1: you're proportioned, and so we have like definitely a thing
Speaker 1: in mind. And it's looking like a thirty six D.
Speaker 1: But that's the size I am, and I feel like
Speaker 1: that's a good It's not it sounds gigantic, it sounds huge,
Speaker 1: but it's really it's not that big. But I'm I'm
Speaker 1: five nine and I'm a hundred and fifty pounds, so
Speaker 1: that's probably about right for me. So um, yeah, So
Speaker 1: that's what I'm getting done. There and asked for the
Speaker 1: blow stuff. I don't really know, um yet, because like
Speaker 1: it's different for every trans woman, Like some some really
Speaker 1: hate their stuff down there and they want to get
Speaker 1: rid of it and have it changed right away. And
Speaker 1: I applaud them others that's their choice, yes exactly, that's
Speaker 1: how that's what they wanted their entire lives. So I
Speaker 1: am all for it. And there's others that I know
Speaker 1: that are like I love my body down there. Ah,
Speaker 1: this is more about like how I'm perceived on the outside,
Speaker 1: and I applaud that too. Um. This sounds so dumb,
Speaker 1: but I'm like ambivalent about it, Like I just want
Speaker 1: to feel good. You are what you are, It doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: Like you don't have to feel any which way about it.
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of all of this. It's like just
Speaker 1: whatever is good for you. Yeah, Like I just want
Speaker 1: to feel good. So so these hormones have been messing
Speaker 1: up so like progressively and um and it's gotten worse
Speaker 1: like this year. So like I've I've been more confident
Speaker 1: than ever and I've been hooking up a lot, and
Speaker 1: I'm all for this fucking podcast because this is I
Speaker 1: love to talk about my sex life and this is
Speaker 1: all you guys do. And I love that, but sex
Speaker 1: is I know. That's what. Part of what I liked
Speaker 1: about your social media was that you were kind of
Speaker 1: like a self identifying slut. And I was like, this
Speaker 1: is great, this is perfect. I'm a huge slut and
Speaker 1: like in like every way that a slut could slut,
Speaker 1: I slut it up. Yeah, I slept from morning noon tonight.
Speaker 1: That's right. It sounded like we were doing like a
Speaker 1: slutty doctors doctor, I'm slut the pussy. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like in the butt we'll make a beat
Speaker 1: out of that. That's like that. There was like that
Speaker 1: early two thousand like gay rap guy that like what
Speaker 1: what in the butt? Or something like what in the but? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just thought that was a saying no, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a song that actually goes like what what in
Speaker 1: the but I know I would go around and like
Speaker 1: what what in the butt? And I thought I thought
Speaker 1: you thought of that. Yeah, I probably, Yeah, I'm a narcissist.
Speaker 1: It's fun. Christina was a very successful rapper in the nineties.
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know she was. I was a
Speaker 1: child rapper, wonderful we'll talk about that later. Female criss Cross.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's accurate. Okay. So last so last night,
Speaker 1: So last night, I this is when Karin was messaging
Speaker 1: me as on my way home, I went to my
Speaker 1: doctor and I told him that, you know, I have
Speaker 1: a guy in my life and he wants to enjoy
Speaker 1: like my sex stuff, and like I have some medical God,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm a doctor. It is I'm a doctor
Speaker 1: and sex stuff, but like and like he wants to
Speaker 1: do it, and like I have like some sex friends
Speaker 1: of like various genders and gender presentations that enjoy you know,
Speaker 1: my company, and like I want everyone to in joy it.
Speaker 1: So I was like, a doctor's anything that I can
Speaker 1: do and he's like, you know what, you you just
Speaker 1: have the same equipment as anyone. Just I'm going to
Speaker 1: write you a script for sallis. Oh it's like sales
Speaker 1: was for like joint pain. I think it was actually
Speaker 1: made for something like that to begin with, it is
Speaker 1: kind of an upper but and then they'll be like
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but then it's like, oh makes your makes
Speaker 1: your bonus work too, And he's like, you know, just here,
Speaker 1: try this out, see what happens. And so Karin was
Speaker 1: messaging me on my way home and I had like
Speaker 1: the bag of boner pill. What a wonderful night, Like
Speaker 1: I have this like throw sex positive podcast to talk
Speaker 1: on tomorrow, and like I have this experiment with my body.
Speaker 1: So you haven't taken any of that. So here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I got back home and like I took the took
Speaker 1: a boner pill pill and could you take to or no, yeah,
Speaker 1: actually you get super boner Yeah. So um, I took
Speaker 1: the one boner pill to start, and I listened to
Speaker 1: your Guys show, the one with like the Real Estate
Speaker 1: sex yeah yeah, oh yeah, and he was he was
Speaker 1: doing a filthy man. That filthy man was his voice.
Speaker 1: A lot of people masturbated to that. People people messages
Speaker 1: like I came eight times. Then I'm like, really sorry,
Speaker 1: I ruined it every couple of minutes when I go
Speaker 1: and you did not trust me. There's there's no amount
Speaker 1: of you could do it to like ruin that experience
Speaker 1: ship in the mic and no one noticed real Estate
Speaker 1: sex Man keep talking that that that heart beat this ship,
Speaker 1: and I'm like I don't care, but but it didn't work. Oh.
Speaker 1: I was sad and like then like I felt bad
Speaker 1: and then like the doctor, remember he said that you
Speaker 1: know you have had a lot of hormones. You have
Speaker 1: you have like microscopic levels of testosterone. I have less
Speaker 1: testoster than either of you do. It's not a big deal.
Speaker 1: But he said, like you may want to try to
Speaker 1: so I and like to see all this last for
Speaker 1: like fourteen hours. So well, so yeah, does does not say?
Speaker 1: Is it just like increased blood flow for blood? Okay,
Speaker 1: it gives you the boner um conditions, basically the conditions
Speaker 1: for a boner. It's like it gives you all you yes, exactly,
Speaker 1: you want to just look at a nipple. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it'll just go look at a nipple or listen to
Speaker 1: you know, the sex real estate guy. Oh yeah, And like,
Speaker 1: so I went to bed and I took another sea
Speaker 1: holice and then I woke back up, and um, I
Speaker 1: popped open Tumbler, which is where I do all my
Speaker 1: porn browsing. Really Tumbler Tumbler Good Tumbler has a bunch
Speaker 1: of porn blogs and it's like a random thing. I've
Speaker 1: seen some hot picks there, but I haven't been on
Speaker 1: tumblering forever. But I think I'm gonna go back. I
Speaker 1: used Tumbler for nothing. I tried to be a blogger
Speaker 1: on that like five years ago, and it's like this
Speaker 1: is a garbage But then like I kept seeing porn
Speaker 1: pop up. This is wonderful since I just like I
Speaker 1: do is push a button in this porn, like I
Speaker 1: don't have to go on to like fucking like tube
Speaker 1: sites or any of that website. I will check that out.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm so glad we could share. But yes,
Speaker 1: tumblers like this and it's actually gotten a little bit
Speaker 1: bad because like it's I think it's on its way
Speaker 1: out finally after however long but anyway, um, I watched
Speaker 1: some porn and then like I went in and like
Speaker 1: my two my two sealysis rather we're fully kicked in
Speaker 1: and then it worked and the and the bonus poing
Speaker 1: like that just like came to life. I haven't had
Speaker 1: a like a full on heart on in like two years.
Speaker 1: That's so exciting. Yeah, it is an exclusive celebratory and
Speaker 1: I and I and I have to like back post
Speaker 1: slightly because like again I that is my choice with
Speaker 1: what I want to do down there, and other translators
Speaker 1: want to not have that. And like there are some
Speaker 1: women that um really called them turf their trans exclusionary, explanged,
Speaker 1: exclusionary radical thinness that say that because we have dicks,
Speaker 1: we used to have dicks and we're not really women
Speaker 1: and funk all that noise. YEA, So I just I
Speaker 1: just mentioned that because there's going to be some asshole
Speaker 1: out there that hears me talk about getting a fucking
Speaker 1: boner and be like that's offensive. But you know what,
Speaker 1: OFF know, we talk about billy boner, deal with it.
Speaker 1: But like, but just for like my community, I was,
Speaker 1: I just I'm just preemptively telling everyone that doesn't like
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about to go funk themselves. I don't
Speaker 1: worry it. That's not really the listenership for here, but
Speaker 1: if it gets out into the ethery usually Honestly, I
Speaker 1: am constantly surprised by how overall wonderful people listen are.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure. I'm sure you have like,
Speaker 1: like the coolest audience because you have a cool fucking podcast.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't have a cool audience, think, Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: a bunch of I took a lot of notes actually
Speaker 1: because I know you're really funny and I want to
Speaker 1: definitely tell funny stories. But I also have some some
Speaker 1: questions that are perhaps more serious. So you're talking about
Speaker 1: your doctor, and I know a big problem in the
Speaker 1: trans community is not only discrimination kind of in the
Speaker 1: workplace around the street, but also by the medical and
Speaker 1: mental health communities. So who is your doctor now? Do
Speaker 1: they specialize in trans folks? And also how did have
Speaker 1: you experienced previous discrimination? So my doctor, he's a lovely man.
Speaker 1: His name is Dr Andrew Goodman. He works at the
Speaker 1: Callan Lord. Callan Lord is amazing. It sounds like a
Speaker 1: brand of soap. Yes, it's a brand of trans soap.
Speaker 1: It is soap that used to be shampoo. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's like a clinic for trans people and for
Speaker 1: people who are HIV positive, or or in the queer community,
Speaker 1: or just even people who just you know, I want
Speaker 1: to have some low cost health care. And it's wonderful.
Speaker 1: I love it. And so that's I would say probably
Speaker 1: half of his patients are trans women. He obviously knows everything,
Speaker 1: and that's why he was like when I was I
Speaker 1: was embarrassed to talk to him about the bonus situation
Speaker 1: because like it made me feel like less feminine, and
Speaker 1: he's like, don't worry. About it, just you know, you
Speaker 1: want to feel good. Here's what has happened because he's
Speaker 1: he has treated trans women for away for like ten years.
Speaker 1: So ok. But he's just like a straight sis gender dude.
Speaker 1: He's I believe he's a gay. He's just gender dude. Okay,
Speaker 1: I do not follow him home. But he has a
Speaker 1: gay affect, he has gay voice. And I say that
Speaker 1: with love. But yeah, so like there is like, um,
Speaker 1: there is some discrimination out there. I'm fortunate to live
Speaker 1: in New York, which is a state that has affirmative
Speaker 1: consent for a gender transition. You just basically say this
Speaker 1: is who I am and they believe you. Other states
Speaker 1: make you go through therapy and like make you have
Speaker 1: to tell these fucking hoops just to get Oh. So
Speaker 1: there's no required therapy in New York state, not for hormones,
Speaker 1: not okay, but for gender is there for gender confirmation surgery.
Speaker 1: So for the insurance, they want you to have a
Speaker 1: or from a therapist. Really and because I have UM,
Speaker 1: because I have the the tit surgery. I was looking
Speaker 1: for the medical term I couldn't find it, but surgery,
Speaker 1: having the surgery, surgery, the top surgery. Thank you. I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's I'm getting titties. So like they make
Speaker 1: me go through that hoop where you have to like
Speaker 1: go through like a therapist or a social worker just
Speaker 1: to make sure a social worker or you know, or
Speaker 1: someone that do you know what they ask you. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing though, and I don't want to give
Speaker 1: away the game, but like how a lord knows that.
Speaker 1: So they have social workers and they have psycho therapist
Speaker 1: and they're like, just come and get the letter. It's fine,
Speaker 1: and they won't just like any other medicine or prescription,
Speaker 1: like anyone is getting it. You're always just like coming
Speaker 1: and cough. Yeah pretty much. It's like it's like it's
Speaker 1: like getting like it's like getting like a medical marijuana
Speaker 1: at oh yeah yeah, and you get that wood yeah yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: just like I have cramps exactly, give me adderall and
Speaker 1: weed and cels. Well. I hear you, and I think
Speaker 1: it's like you obviously know who you are. There was
Speaker 1: not a question you feel confident, but do you feel
Speaker 1: like I mean, I feel like aren't there some people,
Speaker 1: especially like younger people, who it might be helpful before
Speaker 1: doing that to get therapy. I'm I don't know how
Speaker 1: I feel about this. Yeah, I think that. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's anything wrong with a person that has questions
Speaker 1: to go and ask questions. When I was I want
Speaker 1: to say, twelve years old, Um, I had a very
Speaker 1: strange reaction to like music videos with like booty girls
Speaker 1: like it. Like I was like, I don't I like
Speaker 1: her outfit, and I would like and I like this
Speaker 1: one and she seems like a nice person. I would like,
Speaker 1: you're the only person who's ever said that. Even I
Speaker 1: was like, even I didn't think that probably really nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like I and like, oh my god. I
Speaker 1: would see them and be like, you know what, I
Speaker 1: I'd like to try that, And like, I think that's
Speaker 1: probably not too uncommon for like trans people to be
Speaker 1: like seen sexualized images from the media and being like
Speaker 1: I want to be objectified life like that. Well, there's
Speaker 1: also interest, there's also I mean, in some reveidues, specifically
Speaker 1: booty girls like they are used as props. But there
Speaker 1: are so many examples of women sexualizing themselves and when
Speaker 1: you see it, you just feel hot, Like you feel
Speaker 1: their sexiness like drips onto you, and you feel more
Speaker 1: confident and and I mean, that's one of the million reasons.
Speaker 1: I love Beyonce, but like her sexiness is it makes
Speaker 1: it makes my day, it does mine too, and like
Speaker 1: Janelle Monet is like my new heroes and like so
Speaker 1: many of them. And but like, curate what you were
Speaker 1: saying as to like the council. It's not a bad idea.
Speaker 1: When I was twelve years old, I could have used
Speaker 1: someone that talked to about all that, because I didn't
Speaker 1: transition until three years and if I had had therapy,
Speaker 1: I may have transitioned when I was nineteen as opposed
Speaker 1: to three years ago, which I am was not nineteen
Speaker 1: three years ago, right, and he's stretched at all, right
Speaker 1: a little bit nineteen. I'm eighty nine. So you didn't
Speaker 1: transition when you're nineteen, Okay? Absolutely not? Well, yeah, because
Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's a it's a common discussion
Speaker 1: in people who are like I don't even want to
Speaker 1: know what to call them, but like anti trans, anti
Speaker 1: progressive will try to argue that being trans as a
Speaker 1: mental health disorder. And so of course I looked into
Speaker 1: that because I was like, I want to see this
Speaker 1: from both sides, and I found a really interesting article
Speaker 1: in psychology today, which I know everyone is. I'm very
Speaker 1: into like pop psychology, and I think it's like breaks
Speaker 1: it down for people who are not you can't understand
Speaker 1: medical terminology. And um it said that like six point
Speaker 1: seven percent of six gender people experienced depression and eight
Speaker 1: in the USA and eighteen present of six gender people
Speaker 1: in the USA experienced anxiety, whereas fifty I know. I
Speaker 1: was like, I thing, we just know them all because
Speaker 1: they're all comedians. Whereas fifty percent of trans people experience
Speaker 1: mental health issues and experience suicide attempts. But that's not
Speaker 1: saying that being transis a mental health disorder. They explained
Speaker 1: it as that it comes in the world is so
Speaker 1: fu terrible, yeah, it said, and and it's so it's
Speaker 1: a discrimination, stigma, lacked of lack of acceptance, and abuse
Speaker 1: to create all these things. Um and then it was
Speaker 1: saying that there are three things that you need to
Speaker 1: develop a fully formed self, which number one is mirror. Mirroring,
Speaker 1: which is a character givers accurate and consistent reflection of
Speaker 1: your emotional state, idealization which is someone to look up
Speaker 1: to a horror role model. And twin ship, which is
Speaker 1: having someone who is like you that makes you feel
Speaker 1: like you aren't alone in the world, and that many
Speaker 1: trans people grew up lacking one or more of these
Speaker 1: crucial elements. They're saying everybody needs that, yes, which I
Speaker 1: thought was a really interesting um way to like, just
Speaker 1: like I considerate to think about I clearly understand this
Speaker 1: in this one article. And I didn't know if you
Speaker 1: had experienced lack of any of those three things up
Speaker 1: all three of them, definitely, you know it's I grew
Speaker 1: up um for the first part of my childhood in
Speaker 1: Indiana town in Indiana, and then in the second half
Speaker 1: of my childhood, I grew up in an even smaller
Speaker 1: town in Florida. Yeah, in like trailer parks and like
Speaker 1: gross places like that and like not the place for
Speaker 1: evolved thinking. So of course I was very isolated. I
Speaker 1: was isolated from my gender presentation. I didn't know anybody.
Speaker 1: When did you start feeling isolated from how you look
Speaker 1: on the outside? Oh, I mean, I would say twelve,
Speaker 1: but I probably even earlier than that. He's like, I
Speaker 1: I was always like kind of like fruity and feminine. Um.
Speaker 1: And do you remember what exactly you thought though when
Speaker 1: you were when you were a kid? Like? Uh, I
Speaker 1: wish I wish I had breasts. I wish I did
Speaker 1: you think those specifically, I sometimes, but it was more
Speaker 1: like it was. It was a kind of a different thing.
Speaker 1: Like also like it was it was more subtextual, that's
Speaker 1: the right word for it. Like I thought differently. I
Speaker 1: didn't think like the little boys. When I played with
Speaker 1: my little action figures, they didn't fight each other. They
Speaker 1: made neighborhoods and they they had like relationships and like
Speaker 1: they had they would gossip with each other and like
Speaker 1: they would have a they would do all of those things.
Speaker 1: They get jobs they wouldn't have. I would have productive town.
Speaker 1: I had a whole town. I literally had a whole town.
Speaker 1: We built an entire town. I would do with my
Speaker 1: barbies as a child. Basically, I was treating my little
Speaker 1: like g I Joe guys as barbies. They were like
Speaker 1: they were my barbies. They were mostly men, but you
Speaker 1: know whatever, I didn't care that much about that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's I played with them like barbies. And I thought
Speaker 1: that way and like, and I was always like very
Speaker 1: emotional and easy to make cry and like very like
Speaker 1: intuitive and not aggressive. Um And I know that's not
Speaker 1: necessarily an indication of whether or not someone's trans, Like,
Speaker 1: there are plenty of trans people that go into the
Speaker 1: military and they have these like highly like masculine previous lives.
Speaker 1: I just think that for me personally, that there was
Speaker 1: never like a disconnect, like I was always closeted until
Speaker 1: I wasn't. But I never surprised myself. I never was like,
Speaker 1: I'm a girl, how weird? Like I always knew it
Speaker 1: was there. Do you remember when you first had words
Speaker 1: to identify the feelings that you had in your head? Yeah? I, Um,
Speaker 1: I went to like the library and um, and I
Speaker 1: ended up because there was no um there's nothing there
Speaker 1: that had like any sort of like first person narrative,
Speaker 1: Like there was no books by trans people. But I
Speaker 1: ended up finding this thing from the eighties of all times.
Speaker 1: It was called the Mes Report on Pornography, And I
Speaker 1: remember this very well. And it was a report on
Speaker 1: the prenicious destructive influence of Pornography and like it was
Speaker 1: like a congressional like um like document document. Yeah, was
Speaker 1: a report. It wasn't just like a cute name report.
Speaker 1: It was it was an actual It was like there
Speaker 1: was an actual guy. Yeah, there was an actual guy
Speaker 1: named Mice back in Whenever, and he made this congressional
Speaker 1: investigation in the porn and then like it was a
Speaker 1: big fucking joke, but like there's sections on like trans
Speaker 1: porn in there and like and then but it also
Speaker 1: went into like transgender pathology and like they were very
Speaker 1: critical of it. But like even just reading that, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, this is kind of what I am.
Speaker 1: Like I actually read it from like a congressional document
Speaker 1: because there was so little information. That was the amazing
Speaker 1: you fountain that how did you even know that? What
Speaker 1: did you look a keyword? How do you That's just
Speaker 1: a fucking nerved. Like I was in the library at
Speaker 1: lunch and like and like I would just go and
Speaker 1: it was a small school in small town, so like
Speaker 1: and this thing was in like this dusty shelf that
Speaker 1: never got touched and it was like, oh, there's a
Speaker 1: and then you look at it and says pornography. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm into this. I am. I am. It's like a
Speaker 1: big six page book about porn and I didn't read
Speaker 1: all of it, but like I cherry picked the the
Speaker 1: subjects that interested me. And like they would talk like
Speaker 1: he would like summarize like porn like actual like action
Speaker 1: like in this porn movie these lesbians did this and
Speaker 1: it goes on for like three pages about my god.
Speaker 1: He seems to really care about how people are sucking.
Speaker 1: He was very interested in how people were was was
Speaker 1: the overall argument in the report, trying to dissuade people
Speaker 1: from allowing porn, from watching porn, from having porn. B Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that that was like, that was the that
Speaker 1: was the argument they were trying to make, is porn
Speaker 1: destructive to society? And I love how he tried to
Speaker 1: make that argument by describing describing instead others exactly. Wow,
Speaker 1: great arguments are I love that though, because the library
Speaker 1: is a treasure trove and I have to think people
Speaker 1: that That's how I self diagnose myself with obsessive compulsive
Speaker 1: disorder in middle school too. So I mean, not people
Speaker 1: have the Internet, but like if they're which worries me
Speaker 1: because of less accuracy. You've written it down in a book,
Speaker 1: it's been fact checked, it's been someone looks over there.
Speaker 1: You know. Bias still exists in in books the way
Speaker 1: it does everywhere, but I think there's a little more
Speaker 1: out of book because your editors like you're on a deadline,
Speaker 1: like it's probably someone else besides you looked at it,
Speaker 1: whereas online it could have been just you right and
Speaker 1: like and also get paid to write a book. You
Speaker 1: you kind of have to be some sort of expert.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's not worth pain, whereas you're some dude with
Speaker 1: a with a fetish for lesbians. Yes. So growing up,
Speaker 1: what was your family structure? Like mom and dad, brothers
Speaker 1: and sisters. This is gonna be interesting for you guys. Um,
Speaker 1: two parents, very unstable. Um moved U s around a lot.
Speaker 1: My dad was a small time criminal. He got arrested
Speaker 1: all time, small time very small Is that like what
Speaker 1: he put on his tax? Like do yous? He sales?
Speaker 1: How was he? Can you say? Like what is a
Speaker 1: small time crime? So like he was like a document forager.
Speaker 1: He has done that high school stupid ship like that
Speaker 1: and like but like he would do that. He was
Speaker 1: like identity theft and things like that. Um so um,
Speaker 1: yeah he was a cool guy. And then did you
Speaker 1: like him? I did? Actually he was funny like I
Speaker 1: was the criminals. He was like the he was objectively
Speaker 1: a funny person and he was one of these guys.
Speaker 1: It was like being raised by like like a roast battler,
Speaker 1: like you would insult you to your face, but in
Speaker 1: a way that was funny, and then the only way
Speaker 1: to bond with him was to give it back. I
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, So if you could give it back
Speaker 1: to him, then he would respect you and he would
Speaker 1: be cool. Is that a lot of the reason you
Speaker 1: became a comedian. I'm just saying, yeah, I think that's great.
Speaker 1: I was going to say that is great training. I
Speaker 1: think that's yeah. I think that. I think between my dad,
Speaker 1: who was like wh would force you to be funny,
Speaker 1: and then like my mom, who was just a ridiculous
Speaker 1: human beings. She was she was a little Filipino woman,
Speaker 1: and she was a schizophrenic. She was not apparently schizophrenic.
Speaker 1: She was schizophrenic, which means that she didn't necessarily think
Speaker 1: that things were out to get her, but she did
Speaker 1: see things that weren't there. And I hate to be
Speaker 1: politically incorrect, but it was so fucking funny to like,
Speaker 1: did your roast battler father ever roast your schizophrenic mother? Yeah,
Speaker 1: all the time. And did she roast him back? She
Speaker 1: would just call him old and fat. That's amazing. She's like,
Speaker 1: I got things to see. I can't be here. He
Speaker 1: I got I got to talk to Jesus. I got
Speaker 1: some ghosts to talk to. I don't have time for
Speaker 1: your bullshit. Um, but you know, we were five kids,
Speaker 1: Catholic family, youngest. Where did you find the direct metal?
Speaker 1: I'm three or five? But um, this has actually been
Speaker 1: written about in New York magazine. The kid right before me,
Speaker 1: um is also transgender. Ship. Yeah, so um was my
Speaker 1: little sister. Now is my little brother, and he lives
Speaker 1: here in Brooklyn with me and um. We we actually
Speaker 1: came out in New York Magazine like two and a
Speaker 1: half years ago at the same time. Like, did you
Speaker 1: mean did you your coordinate that right? Yeah, because like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be funny six seven here coincidence. No, it's
Speaker 1: like I had a friend that um she was teaching
Speaker 1: me how to be a lady. That's that's that's her job,
Speaker 1: that's an occupation. Yeah, she's called a feminine image consultant. Wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't know the exist specifically for trans women. Well
Speaker 1: that's a great service. Yeah, but you have a lot
Speaker 1: of questions. But yeah, I'm like, what did they teach you?
Speaker 1: So they teach me how to do makeup, to smile? Yeah,
Speaker 1: teach me how to hate men, which did um? I
Speaker 1: mean she makeup makeup and like, um, and then gave
Speaker 1: me resources and encouragement because it's very difficult to transition.
Speaker 1: She assist gender so um. She would also connect me
Speaker 1: with other trans people because there's only so much she
Speaker 1: could say. Yeah, so I needed that community to get connected. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's a great service. Yeah, I was wonderful. What else
Speaker 1: did she teach you? Anything? Like the makeup thing, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm just that is so interesting to me. So she
Speaker 1: taught me how to dress. She taught me the way
Speaker 1: that my body is structured or was structured because I've
Speaker 1: had surgery. But how to mac size what I have
Speaker 1: in a feminine way, how to like wear colors. Like
Speaker 1: the fact that I'm wearing bright on top or bright
Speaker 1: on the bottom and dark on top right now is
Speaker 1: is because I'm trying to draw visual attention into the
Speaker 1: bottom half of my bottom bigger and your top looks smaller. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that kind of that sounds like a great class. But
Speaker 1: my thing with it is a lot of times when
Speaker 1: people transition, let make it seems like they're being like
Speaker 1: the stereotypical version of that gender. So like, what if
Speaker 1: he wanted to be a tomboy. Oh yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: and that's important. That's very important. Like I I've kind
Speaker 1: of like evolved into my own self, like she taught
Speaker 1: like a feminine version of herself, like she is herself,
Speaker 1: so she kind of everyone kind of like it is
Speaker 1: a little bit like her at first, with like the
Speaker 1: way that she dresses an axe, but like you can
Speaker 1: mold it told and like I'm a little dressed up
Speaker 1: right now because I came here from work. Um, I
Speaker 1: you know, I have the same like you know, discount
Speaker 1: Madewet T shirt that you're wearing Christina, and like thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, and see I could use one
Speaker 1: of those classes. Yeah, but like no, it's it's fine
Speaker 1: because that's how I dressed. I dressed like I dressed
Speaker 1: down most of the time. I have my ripped jeans
Speaker 1: and I have my comfortable T shirt and like that's
Speaker 1: that makes me feel good and I don't have to
Speaker 1: like look like this, but like I was in my
Speaker 1: Park Avenue office before I came here, and we have
Speaker 1: to look a little fancy, do you. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know it's like the statistics are crushing, Like do you
Speaker 1: experience discrimination in the workplace or have you. My company
Speaker 1: has been very nice. Um, I've only worked there since
Speaker 1: I've transitioned. I transitioned UM one year into working there,
Speaker 1: so they had a taste of the old me. Oh
Speaker 1: so they knew you before and after? Yeah? Before and okay,
Speaker 1: so I I came out of the HR department and
Speaker 1: my old boss, Oh that was the first move. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm curious what your exact steps were. And then like
Speaker 1: I went through all of the the name changed stuff
Speaker 1: and like, what did HR say to you? They're very supportive.
Speaker 1: What did you say? Do you remember what you said
Speaker 1: to them? I said, I was, It was so freaking nervous.
Speaker 1: I as I told my boss, I said, I need
Speaker 1: to talk to you, and you talk to HR and
Speaker 1: you talked to you guys, and like, oh, who'd you touch? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And he's what I'm sure. I'm sure he thought that
Speaker 1: I was like in trouble and like I and like,
Speaker 1: I thin, guess I got something to tell you. This
Speaker 1: is gonna be kind of difficult, so just be patient
Speaker 1: with me. And then I paused for like maybe thirty seconds,
Speaker 1: just like on the phone, and they're like anytime and
Speaker 1: trying to be nice and like, guys, I This is hard.
Speaker 1: This is very hard. But I'm a girl, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start dressing in dresses and like you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to deal with that, okay, thanks by click yeah, and
Speaker 1: then I just random like I hit after that like um.
Speaker 1: But after that, you know, we collected ourselves and we
Speaker 1: formed a plan, and we meaning you an HR and
Speaker 1: your boss. Yeah, exactly, And what was the plan. The
Speaker 1: plan was to um figure out a date to tell everyone,
Speaker 1: and it was August first, two sixteen, and that gave
Speaker 1: me about two months or so to get mentally prepared
Speaker 1: for it. And then they wrote up an email that
Speaker 1: they sent to everyone. And then my boss sat down
Speaker 1: with the people in my department on August one, and
Speaker 1: I took a vacation. Yeah, I went to l A
Speaker 1: and I sucked my hot lesbian girlfriend that I had
Speaker 1: at the time, or let her fun me and um,
Speaker 1: because that's how I roll. But we did that. Now,
Speaker 1: how do you feel about the fact that they had
Speaker 1: to send a company wide email to to let everybody
Speaker 1: know that you are just going to be you from
Speaker 1: now on? Because to you, I'm sure you knew this
Speaker 1: was who you are. And so but I understand, like
Speaker 1: people on the outside. If they don't get something, it's
Speaker 1: just it's nice to be like, hey, this is the
Speaker 1: thing if you have any equal But like, what did
Speaker 1: that email say? And how did you feel about that?
Speaker 1: That email was my request, That was my suggestion because
Speaker 1: I didn't know any other way to do it. Um,
Speaker 1: And We're going to step up at a company meeting
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna well, they would just think that
Speaker 1: someone was fired and then they just replaced them with
Speaker 1: the woman. But here's the thing that's funny. You should
Speaker 1: say that was actually my old name. Really, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got it. I have been trying to tap in my
Speaker 1: third eyeland. You your third eye is on point. Because
Speaker 1: I'm living alone, I have all my thoughts to myself.
Speaker 1: There you go. You are psychic, Christine. Um. But where
Speaker 1: was that? Well, that email was your request. I say,
Speaker 1: what did you say? And why was that the choice
Speaker 1: that you thought was the best option. I couldn't think
Speaker 1: of any other way to do it, right. What I
Speaker 1: was gonna say is that by then it wasn't that
Speaker 1: big of a surprise. To be quite honest, I had
Speaker 1: manicured eyebrows. I had basically like this sort of girly
Speaker 1: pink ish hair. Um, I had lost a lot of weight. Um,
Speaker 1: very feminine, feminine. It was so thin, I think exactly,
Speaker 1: you know, that's just all this water crest. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and like my skin, like the horn. I've been on
Speaker 1: hormones for like a year at that point, so like
Speaker 1: my skin had like become like dewey and like femine.
Speaker 1: Like we did the hormone or did you just start
Speaker 1: exercising and dieting? I both the hormones give you a
Speaker 1: kick because one of the one of the pills, let
Speaker 1: me get a pen. Yeah, do we skin? You said, Okay,
Speaker 1: how quickly does that come? Quick? Can I transition to
Speaker 1: a woman? Even though I already am one? Transition into?
Speaker 1: Can I be better woman? Because like we saw this
Speaker 1: picture and we're like, okay, not that you were not that,
Speaker 1: not that you're attractive before, but you were very nerdy
Speaker 1: and now you're not hideous, and now you're very hot,
Speaker 1: and so I'm like, wait, if I could be, like
Speaker 1: if I transition to a man, and I would be
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt, I might When you said, when they show
Speaker 1: me the picture, you look like, what's that movie where
Speaker 1: he's like Office Space? Why I'm blanking him that uh
Speaker 1: and then and then after I'm like, wow, that's it
Speaker 1: was like Filipino Courtney Cox, I mean Courtney No, Courtney
Speaker 1: Love sorry, which I don't know. That's a compliment. I
Speaker 1: know that I consider no. I mean you really weird.
Speaker 1: You turn into a babe. I was wowed. I hope that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I hope I would like to remain
Speaker 1: a woman, but I just wanted to transition into a
Speaker 1: hotter woman. That's what we called you here today. I
Speaker 1: don't know how to address myself, Gina. I don't know
Speaker 1: what colors where I'm a sucking I'm drowning in womanhood
Speaker 1: that I don't know what to do with. How can
Speaker 1: we make your transition about us? Yes, you already are. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's that's our main thing for happy pride everybody? How
Speaker 1: is that to hear? Like? Is that rude to say?
Speaker 1: I I try and tread lightly, but I know your comics,
Speaker 1: so like you can fucking raise. But if something I
Speaker 1: say is fucked up, like I do want to know
Speaker 1: because I don't know. But like, well, we asked the
Speaker 1: questions to people that it would be inappropriate, like to
Speaker 1: ask you on the street that's why we call. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we call different people here to do such things. It's fine.
Speaker 1: God was like stop now times screw gets loose. I
Speaker 1: actually put my hand on that didn't come out. Yes,
Speaker 1: nothing came out. Okay, So what was So what were
Speaker 1: people's reactions to you? I guess after you transition, anybody
Speaker 1: email you back? Did they reply? Oh? Yeah, they were
Speaker 1: for the most part stop not at work, but I
Speaker 1: did get some of that. Um, we've been very conscientious
Speaker 1: at work. Nice. That's really nice. They were very nice. Um.
Speaker 1: But like there was this one guy. He was like,
Speaker 1: he's like a bro. He's like a sales bro. He's
Speaker 1: he's like six three, he's hot. He's like an asshole.
Speaker 1: He's an asshole hot. Um. Oh so he was actually
Speaker 1: a jerk. Yeah, but no, no, no, no, no he wasn't.
Speaker 1: Though he was he was. He was but like also
Speaker 1: like yeah, angrily suck, Yeah exactly, and I would. But
Speaker 1: like but he came up to me. I was like,
Speaker 1: I fucking knew there was something going on with you.
Speaker 1: He's the only one that said anything. But like he
Speaker 1: said in like like a funny way, and I was like, yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: I know you were the only one that ever said
Speaker 1: what is up with your fucking hair? But there's something
Speaker 1: nice about treat yeah, because you're a person. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be like handled with kid gloves.
Speaker 1: Like I'm still human being. I'm still there to do
Speaker 1: a job. I'm still there to like, you know, do stuff.
Speaker 1: And because I look like this now doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: you need to treat me like I'm glass Like I'm
Speaker 1: just the same person. Um, now, who do you This
Speaker 1: is just going in a different direction. Who do you
Speaker 1: like to fuck? Oh? Wonderful, thank you for asking. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm very open to that. I um, I have an
Speaker 1: affinity towards like hot daddy types. I enjoyed that. I
Speaker 1: enjoy guys a little older successful yeah yeah, and like
Speaker 1: you know, with like a little bit of roughness about them.
Speaker 1: It sounds about right, yeah, but like, oh yeah, they're fun.
Speaker 1: I have my my current like pieces that way. Piece
Speaker 1: that's such a good word. I love it. It's more
Speaker 1: aggressive than buddy. I like peace because that need anymore
Speaker 1: friends you I'm want to start using. Thank you for
Speaker 1: that gift. I didn't make it up. I saw it.
Speaker 1: I just recrud too. But we can we can make
Speaker 1: it happen. Well, it's just like Christina didn't write what
Speaker 1: what in the writer But I hate the shadow your drinks.
Speaker 1: But otherwise I'm open like I have. It's actually why
Speaker 1: I started taking the Sea Alice, because I have. In
Speaker 1: the past like six months, I've been hooking up and
Speaker 1: fucking like all manner of people I got on like
Speaker 1: the threesome app and field Fields because they got sued
Speaker 1: and I was getting picked up by like sis couples.
Speaker 1: I'm working on hooking up with these two straight guys
Speaker 1: that that like that like bang girls, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: and like can I ask you what do you say
Speaker 1: in your dating profile? Or when is there do you
Speaker 1: feel like you should have a conversation of out uh
Speaker 1: your genitale? It's usually the first thing I say, and
Speaker 1: because like yeah, if you're because if you're not cool
Speaker 1: with that, then I don't even want to go I
Speaker 1: don't even want to start with you. And do you
Speaker 1: seriously like you like I have a dick or you
Speaker 1: know what I say. What I say is I'm transgender.
Speaker 1: And if they say I got a dick? And if
Speaker 1: they if they say, do you what do you have
Speaker 1: down there? And I would say if I say I'm transgender,
Speaker 1: it means I have a dick, because otherwise you will
Speaker 1: just because otherwise you decide to say I'm you know,
Speaker 1: you're a woman, and that's that right because invasive right
Speaker 1: had a surgery done like four years right exactly, Because
Speaker 1: we had a conversation a while ago with Kate Borne
Speaker 1: Sin she was kind of trying to explain this to us, Um,
Speaker 1: where it's like, you don't ask about that about below
Speaker 1: the belt, but but if you're if you're being sexual
Speaker 1: with somebody, and it's interesting, not discriminatory if they don't,
Speaker 1: if they just turned on by certain parts, right right.
Speaker 1: I mean like I'm straight, but a pussy I've had
Speaker 1: my face deep in a pussy many times. I enjoyed it,
Speaker 1: just like two weeks ago in fact, like, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: so but that's the thing. It's like if I'm on field,
Speaker 1: I'm there to fuck every Yeah, we're there to fun.
Speaker 1: And this little lady dick that I have makes me
Speaker 1: a hot property on in this in this community. Like yeah,
Speaker 1: like my ship is blowing up. And that's why I
Speaker 1: went for the silis because it's like if I'm going
Speaker 1: to get all these like boys and girls on on
Speaker 1: my dick all the time. They're so excited about it.
Speaker 1: They're so excited and they just dive right in. They
Speaker 1: want to taste it, and I'm fun, Yeah, let's do that.
Speaker 1: You got to be ready for business. I gotta be
Speaker 1: ready for business. Have you had three ways with people?
Speaker 1: And you dick one ready for the business? Because you
Speaker 1: just got what do you do in that instance? So
Speaker 1: you know, I get fucked. Um. I'm a fan of
Speaker 1: um all manner of dicks, whether they're natural plastic um.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that quite a bit. Oral. You know, we
Speaker 1: we work it out, Yeah, figure we figure it out.
Speaker 1: I was with this as with this couple. I believe
Speaker 1: they're in the Israeli Army because they were well they
Speaker 1: were Israeli, so I'm sure they really army at some point.
Speaker 1: But they were very efficient. They got me. I was,
Speaker 1: I had I was gonna go out date with this
Speaker 1: cop and then he said something creepy to me, so
Speaker 1: he said, um, don't tell my wife. I can't remember
Speaker 1: what he said. It was. It was kind of racist
Speaker 1: and like it was just talking about his job, and
Speaker 1: like he said something kind of racist but also kind
Speaker 1: of creepy, and yeah, all right, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: need this, and so I was like, all right, well
Speaker 1: I was going to get some dick and I have
Speaker 1: the night off. I don't like I didn't have any
Speaker 1: shows that night, so I was like, well, I'm not
Speaker 1: going to perform, I might as well get some dick.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what I say. Yeah, And then like this
Speaker 1: guy hits me up and he's like my girlfriend, and
Speaker 1: I think you're hot. You should come visit us, And
Speaker 1: like the first thing I did is like put the
Speaker 1: girl on the phone to make sure to make sure
Speaker 1: she's a real human, because when the man leads I
Speaker 1: always I think the same exact thing. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: do you take extra safety precautions being trans because it
Speaker 1: is so much dangerous. Okay, what are your safety precautions?
Speaker 1: My main, my main safety precaution is I don't I
Speaker 1: don't do bar hookups. I don't do random hookups in
Speaker 1: like places where they don't already know what's going on
Speaker 1: with me because I am fishy, and uh they do.
Speaker 1: Men do hit on me, and it's weird because I'm
Speaker 1: not used to that. So I'm also a little stupid
Speaker 1: and awkward because like I'm not used to being attractive
Speaker 1: to anyone to be kine honest, there was a girl
Speaker 1: hitting on me last the other night at like a
Speaker 1: comedy show, and I didn't even realize it to like afterwards,
Speaker 1: I oh, shut that she wanted, she wanted, she wanted,
Speaker 1: she wanted that lady dick, and like she was making
Speaker 1: like clear size. But I'm just so fucking dumb. Were
Speaker 1: the signs like I want your lady pretty much? Yeah?
Speaker 1: She was standing next to me, She's like caressing my
Speaker 1: high cheekbones. Oh you're Jesus, you have the most beautiful cheekbones.
Speaker 1: If I thank you, I expect us to have sex now,
Speaker 1: But like like I didn't really because like you know,
Speaker 1: you saw the picture that the audience can't but do
Speaker 1: we posture as absolutely so We're in a post Jim
Speaker 1: and then Gina side and it's it's a great, it's
Speaker 1: a great. Here's here's the most mind blowing part of
Speaker 1: that picture, if you can believe it. Those people are
Speaker 1: ten years apart. What that picture of me as a guy?
Speaker 1: Is you? You? Yeah? I Benjamin Button? Yeah, I need Wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: synthetic hormones is some serious shit. But you also feel
Speaker 1: like there's something about like maybe you're living a healthier
Speaker 1: lifestyle now that you feel that you're presenting as you
Speaker 1: always joy is freely flowing. Yeah. Yeah. When you mentioned
Speaker 1: the weight loss, I was like, sometimes, like a weight
Speaker 1: loss can also be like an emotional burden that you're
Speaker 1: that is being lifted from. You know. When I had
Speaker 1: that picture taken, I was visiting my mom for her
Speaker 1: retirement in Florida, and I was living in Hollywood at
Speaker 1: the time, and um, and not like the fun part,
Speaker 1: it was just some piece of ship. Um, Hollywood, Florida, Hollywood, California, California. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that Hollywood, and like, um, and like I lived next
Speaker 1: door to a Carl's Jr. And I mean that's that
Speaker 1: sounds like a perk to me. But I get very
Speaker 1: much a perk, very much a perk, and they never
Speaker 1: close and exactly and it's a lot of fucking food
Speaker 1: that you can get it too in the morning for
Speaker 1: like seven bucks, like seven weeks and through many of
Speaker 1: Carl's Junior drive throughs after right, you can get like
Speaker 1: you can get a two pound hamburger for seven dollars.
Speaker 1: And like I was lonely and like there was a
Speaker 1: Carl's Jr. And there was no Poia Loco, and then
Speaker 1: there was a Neoshanoya beef Bull just to drop all
Speaker 1: those l A restaurant names and like they were a
Speaker 1: cultured what's that, You're so cultured? I'm so cultured, so
Speaker 1: West Coast and then like all that ship was like
Speaker 1: right next door, and so like that's all I did,
Speaker 1: is I just I just just lonely and I ate
Speaker 1: and um and I just gained that weight and I
Speaker 1: got very like sad, and so yeah, definitely you can
Speaker 1: see like how that like would age a person. Rarely.
Speaker 1: I showed one of my friends and she was like,
Speaker 1: old you looks like new you, sugar daddy. That's a
Speaker 1: great description, is very accurate description. Wow ten years apart
Speaker 1: part Wow? And how was telling your parents? Oh they died?
Speaker 1: Oh so you don't even have Actually very easy. They
Speaker 1: were very understanding a trance like they they were dead
Speaker 1: before and you have has happened. My dad died two
Speaker 1: thousand five. Okay. I wasn't even sure if I was
Speaker 1: going to transition at the time. My mom passed away
Speaker 1: when I was in this really horrible relationship and a
Speaker 1: good time, No, it's never a good time for that,
Speaker 1: but it was like, it was like a triple wammy.
Speaker 1: But like I also knew that because my mom was
Speaker 1: sick for a long time, I would because I'm such
Speaker 1: like a dutiful child, like I would never like burden her.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm just gonna wait until she
Speaker 1: passes away because I love my mom. And I think
Speaker 1: that's probably not the that's probably not a lesson that
Speaker 1: people should You shouldn't do that, you shouldn't pause. So
Speaker 1: it delayed you transitioning. I'm not do you do you?
Speaker 1: Do you? I mean, obviously you know them very well
Speaker 1: their parents, did you foresee? Not a good reaction? Oh
Speaker 1: my mom Filipino, Catholic, schizophrenic. Not was and you should
Speaker 1: just roast your dad and incorporate that you were trans
Speaker 1: and transitioning. Dad was so fat and doesn't disgusting as
Speaker 1: a man. I stopped being one. Hey mom, how's it going?
Speaker 1: Like that's funny, it's hilarious. Yeah, I mean, if I
Speaker 1: could do it again, I would, But there you know this.
Speaker 1: You make shitty choices in life, and like yeah, and
Speaker 1: but the best thing is you learned from them and
Speaker 1: then just you move forward. Yeah. Do you remember the
Speaker 1: first sexual experience you had after you transitioned, and we're
Speaker 1: presenting as female. I did. Um. So there's this like
Speaker 1: sex party in New York City. There's a lot, actually,
Speaker 1: but there was this. There's a specific sex party for
Speaker 1: trans women and for men who admire trans women. That's
Speaker 1: great because then you don't have to go through the Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have to go through all. Yeah, and like
Speaker 1: I went to this thing, but it was the night
Speaker 1: of like some fucking boxing match and like all the
Speaker 1: all the dudes were just acted by fucking boxing and
Speaker 1: here women were like hello, they weren't even there. It
Speaker 1: was just me. It was me and like the bartender
Speaker 1: and like this one guy and we're just sitting there
Speaker 1: and he looks at me and says, we're the only
Speaker 1: ones here? Do you want to fuck? How welcome to
Speaker 1: being a woman. It's Atlantic all around. So I said okay,
Speaker 1: and damn because I was there to fuck, and like
Speaker 1: you know what, I guess at least the first time
Speaker 1: presenting as one was accurate and how it is to
Speaker 1: be a woman's I literally have a bit where like
Speaker 1: lazy one lighters as guys like you're here, So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like this mediocre dick it was it was actually
Speaker 1: like this, this is actually very indicative of my entire
Speaker 1: like female career, um indicative. Yeah, and SHOWTI, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you for that. I welcome put that in my
Speaker 1: back pocket. So so we went back to the to
Speaker 1: the couches and like we fucked um and then he
Speaker 1: wanted to finish in my mouth, and instead of just
Speaker 1: letting me do it, he just like he just like
Speaker 1: kneeled onto my arms and just like pushed it into
Speaker 1: my mouth. What a real female explorer, very accurate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it gets it gets even more disappointing. So he
Speaker 1: finished little Yeah. So he finishes off and I was like,
Speaker 1: was he face fucking god? Because he was like he's
Speaker 1: like yeah, he's just like he's not hot at all.
Speaker 1: And he's just like he's like, I'm like, an, you
Speaker 1: made him feel like the sexiest man at the ball exactly,
Speaker 1: and he's writing my face like a fucking saddle, and
Speaker 1: then like he finishes and then like and then he's like,
Speaker 1: so we're putting ourselves back together. He's like, so what
Speaker 1: do you do? Like, oh um? And I didn't. I
Speaker 1: wasn't doing comedy at the time, so I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I I work in uh in the internet.
Speaker 1: I worked at this internet company and he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I work at like Verizon whatever FiOS. And
Speaker 1: then he deals and he explains the fucking Internet to me.
Speaker 1: You've got the most woman experienced, the most woman experience,
Speaker 1: man splain. I got, I got face raped question mark
Speaker 1: and was written like a saddle someone a man explained
Speaker 1: the Internet to you, right, and I got and I
Speaker 1: got like you want to fuck as like as like
Speaker 1: to pick up Liane. It was like bam, bam bam,
Speaker 1: and just taught me everything I needed no right away.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, have you ever transitioning? Absolutely not great,
Speaker 1: best decision of my life. I'm having so much fun.
Speaker 1: I was like, if you can get face fucked in
Speaker 1: man splained, and still out here already paid my dues
Speaker 1: and no one's ever done that to you when you
Speaker 1: before you transition here that everyone does it bother you
Speaker 1: at all? Because he explain a sex party as trans
Speaker 1: women and men who admire trans women, which seems a
Speaker 1: little fetishy, like do you ever and I know that
Speaker 1: happens a lot from people I know. Does that bother
Speaker 1: you at all? Yeah? So um it is. It's hard.
Speaker 1: I um, because most of the guys that I date
Speaker 1: are just sort of into it for the body parts,
Speaker 1: and and I'm of two minds about that, because I
Speaker 1: want to have sex. I enjoy it, so I will
Speaker 1: if they're hot or they're interesting, or you know, they're
Speaker 1: rich or whatever. If they have they're bringing something to
Speaker 1: the table, then let's let's do this. If they suck,
Speaker 1: then they can go on. Um. What happened though, is
Speaker 1: I ended up following in love with a lesbian she Um.
Speaker 1: She lived in l A And I was visiting and
Speaker 1: then we ended up like connecting, and then she came
Speaker 1: to visit me down here and then she brought a
Speaker 1: strap on and like we spent Fourth of July weekend
Speaker 1: and by the end of that I had been written
Speaker 1: really well because and this is important if I want
Speaker 1: to if there's anything I can impart on the sex
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Speaker 1: what is a soft butch lesbians an idea? So a
Speaker 1: soft butch is is still demonstrably female, but has like
Speaker 1: masculine presentation about her. So she she wears a little
Speaker 1: I make up. She um is like soft. I usually
Speaker 1: call that androgynous. But yeah, okay, yeah, that's my favorite type.
Speaker 1: You're just telling Karin how I think? Um, I guess.
Speaker 1: I guess this is more butch, but like butch women
Speaker 1: or I would imagine soft butch women when a woman
Speaker 1: has a masculinity towards her. I think it's it's it's
Speaker 1: like Ruby Rose, a soft butch would we Ruby Rose? Yeah,
Speaker 1: she could stuff in my bottle, she could this whole room.
Speaker 1: I'm sure she could just like just write it out
Speaker 1: all three was. I have no doubt about that. But Ruby, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you want, if you would like if you're not,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're out there. She is one of
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Speaker 1: I'm personally curious about it. So the soft butch, it's
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Speaker 1: young too, she was like twenty five or something like that.
Speaker 1: So she's energetic and yeah, and she's still happy and
Speaker 1: she and she like saw me as like her like
Speaker 1: college professor that she always wanted to funk. I looked
Speaker 1: like one of her college professors. Wow, this is complex.
Speaker 1: And she was just really directed with you, really directed
Speaker 1: about it. We fucked within like two hours of meeting
Speaker 1: each other. Wow, that's what a chemistry. She popped out.
Speaker 1: She popped out the loop, she popped out the dill though,
Speaker 1: she's like, you are you ready for this? Like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm ready for this. Oh my god, you guys are
Speaker 1: on the same page. Yeah, we were on the same page.
Speaker 1: We were in her Airbnb. My head out the window,
Speaker 1: my head out the window, getting sucked by it was
Speaker 1: the most Why was her head up the window? And
Speaker 1: I don't know. Actually I wouldn't have to ask her.
Speaker 1: I would have to ask her because she kept pushing
Speaker 1: me out the windows. Part of her almost died. Just
Speaker 1: your head, just how many stories up for you? We're
Speaker 1: on the first floor. Okay, So it's just maybe she
Speaker 1: wanted to give a little fresh air, a little fresh air,
Speaker 1: a little bit the breeze on me. But like it
Speaker 1: was there ever a point where like you're trying to
Speaker 1: push me out the window? Yeah? Actually, but like I
Speaker 1: was the first I was feeling too good though. It
Speaker 1: was like all this stuff is going on down here
Speaker 1: and like I'm like and I'm like popping out into
Speaker 1: the world. But but like this she was energetic. She
Speaker 1: was a good energetic fuck she she could keep it up.
Speaker 1: She keep it up as long as I needed it
Speaker 1: natural and but like she was also like very consenting.
Speaker 1: She was like is this good? Do you want me
Speaker 1: to do this? But in a hot just excited over here.
Speaker 1: Wow damn Okay. Then we were then like we were
Speaker 1: together for like a year, and like she, um, it
Speaker 1: was too much. The distance was too much for her.
Speaker 1: And I got that. I got that. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's fair, that's fair. She had two kids
Speaker 1: just from her from her previous marriage. They were in
Speaker 1: IVF kids, so like gold star lesbian. So she never
Speaker 1: even touched any of this business until she and um,
Speaker 1: that's so hot and sexy that she was just like,
Speaker 1: do you want like communicative and just down, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: really And I were just talking about guys who won't
Speaker 1: funk women when they're on their period. I was like,
Speaker 1: it's I lived with before I transition. I lived with
Speaker 1: a woman for four years. The bad relationship. I mentioned.
Speaker 1: But but like we but she you know, menstruated and
Speaker 1: she did she did? How how dare she do that?
Speaker 1: And like and we did stuff. I was not ever
Speaker 1: able to fund a girl as a guy. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of curious because my body would just not make any
Speaker 1: sense out of it. Like, wait, so we were with
Speaker 1: a woman for four years? What do you do? I
Speaker 1: just went down on her a lot, and she she
Speaker 1: knew I was dressing you. She knew I was trance.
Speaker 1: So she you want to have that conversation, that conversation
Speaker 1: each other? Oh really, and then that's at least nice
Speaker 1: that you could kind of have just happen. Everyone's cool
Speaker 1: with it. So she knew she was the second person
Speaker 1: I ever came. I mean, you went down her good.
Speaker 1: So we were and we would go down on each other,
Speaker 1: and like, I was okay with that. But any time
Speaker 1: that it required me to behave in like a masculine way,
Speaker 1: and that goes for like dudes, it's not a matter
Speaker 1: of attraction. Is this a matter? My body just doesn't
Speaker 1: understand it. But now that I am living and I
Speaker 1: want to I want to find this out and this
Speaker 1: is my this is my mission for the summer, I
Speaker 1: want to try and fund someone. I don't care if
Speaker 1: it's a boy, girl, whatever, but I have the means now.
Speaker 1: I have returned function to the bottom floor. Yes, the
Speaker 1: boner pills are here. What I want to find out
Speaker 1: is if my body will agree with it, and if
Speaker 1: it doesn't, that's not a big deal. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna agree with a woman. Woman agree with
Speaker 1: suing a man, agree with agree with being the penetrative
Speaker 1: talk Well, okay, do you find though, like I I
Speaker 1: talked well? Like when we talked to Jared last week,
Speaker 1: for example, he's a top, that's how he said. He's
Speaker 1: got sucked twice and he one guy like he really liked.
Speaker 1: But with me, I I when I sucked guys, I'm
Speaker 1: every guy that I'm with is it's a different dynamic
Speaker 1: because some guys I could not imagine that. My one
Speaker 1: boyfriend Chris before I, uh years ago, last boyfriend before Stephen,
Speaker 1: he fucked me. So it was the first time I
Speaker 1: ever had dirty sex, and he slapped me and I
Speaker 1: slapped him, And it was the only sexual relationship I've
Speaker 1: ever had been in where it felt right that both
Speaker 1: of us were dominant with each other and then like
Speaker 1: when I was with Stephen I I was the sub
Speaker 1: and me hitting him or whatever, being dominant with him.
Speaker 1: It just didn't feel it was right. But so but so,
Speaker 1: maybe it's the person for you. Do you think it
Speaker 1: could be? There was this the couple I hooked up
Speaker 1: with in February. The guy is a little weird. I
Speaker 1: tell this joke in my act about him yelling about
Speaker 1: playing the Eagles on his Alexa, because he did while
Speaker 1: we were fallame the Eagles the band Hotel fucking California
Speaker 1: while we were fucing on his Amazon fucking Echo, and
Speaker 1: like it's so freaking disturbing. But like the girl, there
Speaker 1: is not a fuckable song for the first time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like seven minutes. I was like, yeah, seven minutes
Speaker 1: of like sucking don Henley. I know it's you do
Speaker 1: not Funk to the Sun does not happen. But but
Speaker 1: the girl was really cool and like I just wanted
Speaker 1: him to go away. M I just wanted him to
Speaker 1: go away, and like I wanted to play with her,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I would like to try and
Speaker 1: fund this girl somehow, and I still have her number,
Speaker 1: and um, maybe he wants to watch the eagles in
Speaker 1: his earbuds. There you go, There you go. So we
Speaker 1: haven't hooked up since then, but you know that the
Speaker 1: door was not closed. I have like the stuff now
Speaker 1: I would like to try it, and if not them,
Speaker 1: then someone. I don't think that I want to fuck
Speaker 1: a man unless I'm in love with him, Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't feel like men are attractive to me in a
Speaker 1: passive way. But a girl, Oh yeah, totally, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Like god, sex, sex is so much better when you
Speaker 1: have skills to communicate what you want. And when I
Speaker 1: was like in my twenties, I just didn't I mean
Speaker 1: I did, I did in some instances, but there's I
Speaker 1: just look back and think of so many times where
Speaker 1: I just I wanted something and I just nothing came
Speaker 1: out of my mouth and I went, Okay, I'll do
Speaker 1: whatever you want. But when you can, when you can
Speaker 1: have a conversation with somebody who's also sexually open and
Speaker 1: be like, hey, I want to stick a dildo up
Speaker 1: you and I want him to watch and jerk off
Speaker 1: to it, is that something you'd be up to like
Speaker 1: just to be able to ask that without being like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's just so nice and I love that. I love
Speaker 1: having that, and I love having people in my life
Speaker 1: that I can do that with. And I have a
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot. I'm not like, I'm not
Speaker 1: like sex real estate. Man, I'm not yet me a
Speaker 1: couple of years. But but like I have the confidence
Speaker 1: now in in like myself to be like, this is
Speaker 1: what I want and I will find the right person
Speaker 1: for that. There's a lot of it's New York. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of people sucking in a lot of different
Speaker 1: ways in a different places, in a lot of different places.
Speaker 1: So there's a girl out there that wants to get
Speaker 1: sucked by a pretty trans woman that is feminine. Where
Speaker 1: can we find you on the end? Where can we
Speaker 1: find you on the internet? I would like to talk
Speaker 1: to you, just like there are plenty of men out
Speaker 1: there that want to suck a pretty trans women in
Speaker 1: the butt. I have no problem finding them. But I'm
Speaker 1: always always on the lookout for more um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just fun. It's like, I just like it.
Speaker 1: It feels like sex where you can talk like that
Speaker 1: and just say what you want and ask a person.
Speaker 1: Just it feels like you're swimming in a blue ocean
Speaker 1: and funny day. You just really is a beautiful feeling.
Speaker 1: You're just you Fiji fear Waters and it's beautiful. Yeah
Speaker 1: and yeah, I agree. Um, so we have to wrap up,
Speaker 1: but I have one last question since it's you know,
Speaker 1: we're obviously we're to straight sis gender checks and hosting
Speaker 1: the show, but I think it's like in Pride, if
Speaker 1: you're not part of the LGBTQ community, it's good to
Speaker 1: learn better ways to be an ally Like that's like
Speaker 1: a time in June to like kind of revisit like,
Speaker 1: am I doing this? Am I just making homosexuality about me?
Speaker 1: Do I just like this gig club and that gay
Speaker 1: guys are good at shots? This is I'm projecting now
Speaker 1: Umuilera and you know, yeah, and so I know, especially
Speaker 1: being trans, there's a lot of microaggressions that you probably
Speaker 1: um experienced throughout your day. Are there any things that
Speaker 1: you can maybe like tell people, uh that, yeah, that
Speaker 1: we're doing things that could be anxiety inducing ways to
Speaker 1: be more accepting or open or oh yeah, totally. Um.
Speaker 1: I don't have a personal problem with it because I
Speaker 1: present very feminine. People generally get my pronouns right away.
Speaker 1: But I have a lot of friends that are that
Speaker 1: are like non binary, and they present in ways that
Speaker 1: are sort of in between, and it doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: genitals they were given when they were born. They're like,
Speaker 1: I do not subscribe to the gender binary at all, um,
Speaker 1: and I would, but they tend to get gendered. I
Speaker 1: just if you're curious, if you're not sure, just ask,
Speaker 1: because if someone is dressing that way, as someone's presenting
Speaker 1: themselves that way, there's probably a reason behind it. And
Speaker 1: even if even if even if like a an androgynous
Speaker 1: woman presents as she, she will probably not be upset
Speaker 1: that you asked. You will probably be like, thank you
Speaker 1: for at least recognizing. Yeah, it was been considering that
Speaker 1: I may have like a story that more complicated than
Speaker 1: you're expecting. Um as far as me personally, UM, I
Speaker 1: told then I tell everybody this, Like, you know, when
Speaker 1: you sit with me for a while, you kind of
Speaker 1: forget the trans thing, Like I have kind of a
Speaker 1: deep voice. I get that. But other than that, I
Speaker 1: think people just sort of like this, it's just some
Speaker 1: chick that's really into herself and post a lot of
Speaker 1: naked pictures on the internet, just like every lit I
Speaker 1: fucking no, but for me though, I hate getting treated
Speaker 1: with kid gloves. I told the guy at that does
Speaker 1: like the roast battles, and I've only done it a
Speaker 1: couple of times, but I was like, you know, I
Speaker 1: want I don't want these fucking guys and this thing
Speaker 1: to be afraid to dig deep. I will not do
Speaker 1: it if they don't dig deep. Because so like to
Speaker 1: call you like a hot training mass, like yeah, you
Speaker 1: don't bat because it's like I'm not. Yeah, don't treat
Speaker 1: me like I don't treat me well. It's like when
Speaker 1: you like you're stilling in the wheelchair in the front
Speaker 1: or the comic show and that's the only person you
Speaker 1: don't talk to. It's like, that's the person I talked
Speaker 1: to you first, pay schoo, Yeah exactly, Yeah, Scoots, Yes,
Speaker 1: and you got Lady Dick and you got you got
Speaker 1: the whole crew. Oh my god, Scoots, the Lady Dick detective.
Speaker 1: We're fighting cry let's falling. CBS. That is ideal for
Speaker 1: a network because they're like, oh handicaps and trans ship.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. So, in all sincerity, where can we
Speaker 1: find you on the internet if you want to come
Speaker 1: see your shows? Following you on social media? You want
Speaker 1: some hot lady, or if you want some respectfully respectfully
Speaker 1: hot lady, dick um. So you can find me on
Speaker 1: Instagram at Gina Bloom. My spelling is j E E
Speaker 1: n A b l o o m. You can find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Hey Gina Bloom. That is h
Speaker 1: u y and then j E E n A b
Speaker 1: l o o m um. Look me up on Facebook.
Speaker 1: I have a public profile. I don't remember what it's called.
Speaker 1: The spelling is unique. Yeah, spelling is unique. So just
Speaker 1: make sure that it's with a two ease and N
Speaker 1: N n a. Um chose a unique spelling, does it?
Speaker 1: That's a name I gave to myself someone who did
Speaker 1: not choose a unique spelling. That's an interesting thing to observe.
Speaker 1: But did you Is it because you liked the name
Speaker 1: Gina but you wanted to kind of like pay like
Speaker 1: because I had because my entire family is people with
Speaker 1: Jay's in their first name Kradesh, and we had like
Speaker 1: a bunch of like girl names that were already taken
Speaker 1: or closely taken. Like I could not pick anything related
Speaker 1: to Jennifer because that's my my older sister's name. I
Speaker 1: could not pick anything really to Jacqueline because that's my
Speaker 1: younger sister's name, and um, and then my Tram's brother.
Speaker 1: I could not pick anything really to his old name
Speaker 1: because yeah, it would just be yeah. So I had
Speaker 1: to pick another one. So I just and then I say, oh, Gina,
Speaker 1: what the fucking jay cool? I can do that. I
Speaker 1: liked it. It It looks good too. Visually, Yeah, it's it's fun.
Speaker 1: I've really come to appreciate it. Um. But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: where you can find me. I perform, I don't you know,
Speaker 1: all over New York we all what's what we always say,
Speaker 1: colleges and clubs, you all that ship. Yeah, you post
Speaker 1: about it all right? I post about it obsessively out
Speaker 1: there you go. That's a self promotion. You absolutely need it.
Speaker 1: And if it's like even if it's a stupid lesbian book,
Speaker 1: still with for people, I will make a fucking noise
Speaker 1: about it. You can find absolutely love. Well, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us. This has been guys. We
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