Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast is in a podcast marriage
Speaker 1: made too Lights. Welcome back to another distorally Around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast presented by New Era. My name is Dan
Speaker 1: Ranzas joined in the room filled with heroes Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up? Boys? Hey? Dan,
Speaker 1: what's up? We're in a marriage with who with the other?
Speaker 1: This is a marriage, Let's face it. It's built to
Speaker 1: last seven hundred plus episodes deep five years now, and
Speaker 1: it is. We had a conversation our friend Uh, a
Speaker 1: colleague downstairs, James co Uh of the NFL Fantasy Realm,
Speaker 1: is leaving the company after several years, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: miss him and invest luck in the future, and it did.
Speaker 1: Mark and I were talking to to Co and Uh.
Speaker 1: Mark and I've been here since two thousand ten, I think,
Speaker 1: you guys since what two thousand twelve? I was, yeah,
Speaker 1: right at the beginning of two we are. And this
Speaker 1: comes on the same day that one of the most important,
Speaker 1: well important maybe it's not the word, but one of
Speaker 1: the most visible newspapers where I grew up, the New
Speaker 1: York Daily News, just slashed their sports department from thirty
Speaker 1: five employees down to eight or something insane like that,
Speaker 1: and cut loose a lot of like gifted beat writers
Speaker 1: and stuff. And we are very lucky to have the
Speaker 1: this amount of time that we've had together. Let it
Speaker 1: be known when I arrived here before Dan, let's start
Speaker 1: right there by a couple of weeks he got me.
Speaker 1: And when Dan arrived he had no idea how the
Speaker 1: computer systems worked. And I had to spend an afternoon
Speaker 1: sitting down. You don't understand this is how our content
Speaker 1: management system works. And without me, Dan, I think your
Speaker 1: career would have gotten off to a rough start. The
Speaker 1: lockout happened soon after, and they cleaned out a lot
Speaker 1: of people. You probably would have been one of the people.
Speaker 1: They said, this guy is just not getting the Tantonology
Speaker 1: computer right. What are these speaking. We did have a
Speaker 1: few editors that had had issues with Yes, technology act,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Was a gentleman. We're definitely thinking
Speaker 1: of the same person did not know how the internet worked.
Speaker 1: But he's no longer with us. We're still we're happy
Speaker 1: to be all together as we really. Yeah, he died
Speaker 1: of natural causes. He's dead now, but he was a
Speaker 1: good man. Uh No, he's alive. I think, um, but
Speaker 1: couldn't be sure. But this is the Monday show. Um,
Speaker 1: really the first show. Markets back to grinding. You're off
Speaker 1: the beaches now, because off the beach here we are.
Speaker 1: Now let's see the Bears. Good job by the Bears
Speaker 1: are reported on the sixteenth, the Ravens, no joking around,
Speaker 1: they reported on the eleventh. Uh. And now we have
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, the Dolphins, the Saints, the Bears, the oh
Speaker 1: I see you, Detroit Lions July nine, good job by you,
Speaker 1: and um and then today Cardinals, Colts, Chiefs, Pats, Giants, Titans,
Speaker 1: all reporting and then everyone else will by the end
Speaker 1: of the week. So we are now. I mean we've
Speaker 1: flipped the page of the calendar swipped over. It is
Speaker 1: the two thousand eighteen season, so it's a twenty eight
Speaker 1: weeks season. That's how I like to look at it now.
Speaker 1: Twenty week one just started. This is like what we
Speaker 1: so enjoy it. I don't know if it's just because
Speaker 1: we've done this so many times that it doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like the start or end anything. And I don't mean
Speaker 1: to downplay it. It's just that it's like we were
Speaker 1: doing a lot of work last week. We were doing
Speaker 1: a lot of work the week before, and it will
Speaker 1: continue on until you know it does next does feel
Speaker 1: like a difference. I think we all enjoyed this offseason.
Speaker 1: I mean West has been was named off season champions,
Speaker 1: been a little cocky since, to be honest, kind of
Speaker 1: throwing him right around like, Hey, I'm I'm the champion,
Speaker 1: not you guys. When he's posting Instagram photos in his
Speaker 1: new backyard of a wine and cheese party. Hold, I mean,
Speaker 1: this guy is feeling himself a little bit. Show I
Speaker 1: didn't post anything, he didn't. And now this morning I
Speaker 1: dropped off my family at the airport there I shipped
Speaker 1: them away for the rest of the season, and uh
Speaker 1: now it does feel like that is the start of something.
Speaker 1: And and now a brief aside, Dear God, please please
Speaker 1: let the Browns be better this year, because I don't
Speaker 1: think Mark will survived this season if you're not better
Speaker 1: with the Browns. So make the Browns okay. I think
Speaker 1: you're secretly wishing that that's just about the Jets, but
Speaker 1: this is you. We need you to get through this.
Speaker 1: We we are rooting for. I guess my bigger concern
Speaker 1: internally is like that I feel exceedingly detached from the Browns,
Speaker 1: So I would like to we don't believe it. Don't
Speaker 1: you say that every August? I just do. I don't
Speaker 1: know if your entire personality shifts as a Brown season
Speaker 1: descends into chaos. It's more one like people are down
Speaker 1: in the news from that. That's never going to change,
Speaker 1: I know, well unless they got better, if nothing else,
Speaker 1: for the sake of the Sunday Night podcast listeners, the
Speaker 1: sky sports hits we do on Sunday, I want you
Speaker 1: to have some smiles. Well, it would just be different.
Speaker 1: How about it just would be different than anything we've
Speaker 1: experienced here. I think we should play the track of
Speaker 1: all the time you've said you've detached from the Browns
Speaker 1: and the Pits. Well, let's a tortured, unhealthy relationship. Uh.
Speaker 1: We had teased on Friday. What did we tease, lindsay,
Speaker 1: rebirth of a new season. We figured out that's what
Speaker 1: the cooling was about. And also it did get on
Speaker 1: our radar because a lot of listeners reached out that
Speaker 1: this is our five year anniversary of the podcast. So
Speaker 1: how about that rebirth for that too? Baby? All right? Anyway,
Speaker 1: the big effing announcement shadow league figure said, hold off
Speaker 1: on that until the end of the week. So the
Speaker 1: the big announcement will come probably on Friday's show. So
Speaker 1: don't get married. It's an extended tease. Yes, just make
Speaker 1: you uh so a lot to get to today and
Speaker 1: updates speaking in the Cleveland Browns on one of their
Speaker 1: top playmakers and his availability for training camp. Really sad news.
Speaker 1: Uh a former head coach passes away and uh in uh.
Speaker 1: Later on in the show, we will talk about with
Speaker 1: training camp really rolling into form now um a piece
Speaker 1: written by Greg that we will talk about notable bros
Speaker 1: on the roster bubble and training camp. Greg's wording in
Speaker 1: that headline as well, not my wording. It's not accurate.
Speaker 1: It's not accurate. What are you gonna do, by the way,
Speaker 1: with the house to yourself? What is that supposed to be? Uh?
Speaker 1: We got that Jimmy g music to spend a lot
Speaker 1: at um, you know, taco places around the West Side.
Speaker 1: I mean, if the past is any indication, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be some fence climbing and some windows broken into and
Speaker 1: Greg's break into the house. It's just good to have
Speaker 1: that house to yourself though. Yeah, but now everyone knows
Speaker 1: So aren't you kind of like the way when you
Speaker 1: were younger, You like people find out parents gone, and
Speaker 1: suddenly from everyone from your class, in this case, your
Speaker 1: workplace piles over to the Rosenthal hanover. It's been a while.
Speaker 1: I don't think you guys have been there in like
Speaker 1: five years. I think it was like the birth of
Speaker 1: your first jolb. I think it was a birthday party.
Speaker 1: Early on, it was all right, let's uh do some
Speaker 1: news football. It Trump's politics. That's true. That is true,
Speaker 1: and it's all in the wording. Mark, you did a
Speaker 1: nice job with that, Dan. The Cleveland Browns will start
Speaker 1: training camp without Josh Gordon. Uh, the receiver reinstated by
Speaker 1: the league last year, announced on Monday morning through social
Speaker 1: media he will not report for camp on Wednesday, when
Speaker 1: the rest of his teammates show up. UM, we don't
Speaker 1: have a clear picture of the case behind it, but
Speaker 1: Gordon said that he said that current treatment UH that
Speaker 1: he is. Of course, Gordon has had his issues with
Speaker 1: substance abuse, UH, and that's led to his past suspensions. UH.
Speaker 1: That he is going into a treatment to kind of
Speaker 1: get ahead of any future issues that he could have.
Speaker 1: So this was his line to my Cleveland Browns an
Speaker 1: NFL family, I am reaching out to you all personally
Speaker 1: and letting you know that I am not only doing
Speaker 1: great physically, but mentally as well. You will notice that
Speaker 1: I will not be in Cleveland for the start of
Speaker 1: training camp. Rest assured, this too is a part of
Speaker 1: my overall overall health and treatment plan mark Um. It's
Speaker 1: kind of being teased as something that won't be a
Speaker 1: long term absence, but again, this is something to keep
Speaker 1: an eye on because Gordon has had his problems. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and NFL media insider Ian Rappaport noted right away when
Speaker 1: they brought him on Inside Training Camp Live, which launched today,
Speaker 1: that it's not a suspension, it's not a failed drug test,
Speaker 1: and at this point there's no timeline for when he's
Speaker 1: going to be back. That it's part of something that
Speaker 1: his medical team came up. But think it's natural. Not
Speaker 1: only is a Brown stamper anyone who's following Josh Gordon's
Speaker 1: career that you're immediately wondering what is really going on here,
Speaker 1: But based on what we know and like you'd find
Speaker 1: out if it was a suspension or something that happened
Speaker 1: that was really a problem for his development in a
Speaker 1: different way than this. I think the best possible scenario
Speaker 1: is that he's been in so much rehab that he's
Speaker 1: gained some maturity in terms of knowing when he's going
Speaker 1: to get into a tricky area and addressing it beforehand.
Speaker 1: But most people probably feel like something went on behind
Speaker 1: the scenes that we don't know about, but we'll know
Speaker 1: about at some point. Yeah. The statement mentions the medical
Speaker 1: director who was appointed jointly by the NFL and the
Speaker 1: NFL p A. So whatever happened happened along with the
Speaker 1: consultation from from that medical director. Whether it was Gordon
Speaker 1: coming to him or the director gaining awareness of something
Speaker 1: going on in Gordon's life, we gotta wait and just see. Right,
Speaker 1: We're just speculating, but I think it it does serve
Speaker 1: the overall point that the Browns have gotten this far.
Speaker 1: I think kind of counting on him now for this year,
Speaker 1: and so we'll see. We just don't know. Moving on
Speaker 1: to some really sad news in the NFL. This fall
Speaker 1: to me, goes in this hole. Okay, it's four games worth,
Speaker 1: all right, goes in the hole, and I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: the first piece of dirt on it. Okay, anybody else
Speaker 1: that wants to put any dirt on it, you help yourself.
Speaker 1: And if you don't feel like you need to do
Speaker 1: anything like that, okay, I'm fine with that. But here's
Speaker 1: your shovel, here's your tool, and those four games are
Speaker 1: over and we're found ready to go to work. That,
Speaker 1: of course, is the voice of Tony Sperrano, the former
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins head coach, former interim coach for the Raiders
Speaker 1: when that famous SoundBite that's where that came from, and
Speaker 1: current Minnesota Vikings offensive line coach. He died unexpectedly on Sunday,
Speaker 1: just fifty six years old. Sperrano was entering his third
Speaker 1: season as the Vikings offensive line coach under Mike zimmer Uh.
Speaker 1: He had been in the NFL for over two decades.
Speaker 1: Began his career back in ninety nine with the New
Speaker 1: Browns franchise. That four year run with the Dolphins went
Speaker 1: twenty nine and thirty two, but also became the first
Speaker 1: head coach to ever lead a team that had gone
Speaker 1: one in fifteen the year before to the playoffs UM
Speaker 1: and still the only team since UM the Brady Belichick
Speaker 1: regime took hold that's won that division other than the
Speaker 1: Patriots the Dolphins in two thousand and eight. Um, so
Speaker 1: there you go. Mike zimmer Um said, I love Tony's
Speaker 1: uh Sperrano. He was a great teacher, a grinder of
Speaker 1: a worker, and had a toughness and fighting spirit that
Speaker 1: showed in our lineman. I think when he first came
Speaker 1: into our lives, we constantly knew him as the guy
Speaker 1: whose name was almost Tony Soprano, and then eventually he
Speaker 1: got to be this guy who it seemed like everybody
Speaker 1: appreciated him for being a really good position coach, offensive
Speaker 1: line guy, tight ends running game like he bounced around
Speaker 1: from all these teams. But he seemed to be beloved
Speaker 1: figure and was really good at that aspect of the job.
Speaker 1: And he and we had on this very podcast had
Speaker 1: a lot of fun with the very the ball. That's
Speaker 1: when he was the interim coach and he took over.
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders had lost four in a row
Speaker 1: to start the season, if I recall, and what he
Speaker 1: did was, and this was documented by their social media,
Speaker 1: was dig a hole, dropped the ball in and then
Speaker 1: handed the shovel around, and then all the Raiders players
Speaker 1: took his queue and then Uh sealed up the ball
Speaker 1: underneath the practice field, and we had fun with at
Speaker 1: the time because it was kind of like a funny,
Speaker 1: like cliche, uh coach thing to do, but it was
Speaker 1: also like Speranto and also his personality. He was a
Speaker 1: Connecticut guy. Um. His backstory how he had the reason
Speaker 1: he wore the sunglasses is when he was a teenage
Speaker 1: cook and a fast food restaurant. He had a grease
Speaker 1: accident and they everyone had a lot of fun with
Speaker 1: him having the shades on at all times. Uh. Speranto
Speaker 1: was a personality. Uh. And it's really sad to hear
Speaker 1: him him go like this and you just look at
Speaker 1: the outpouring the tweets, the words from the people that
Speaker 1: knew him that were like these. A lot of these
Speaker 1: is even though he was a head coach and we
Speaker 1: knew him from that a long time assistant, and these
Speaker 1: guys sometimes flowed anonymously after their head coaching career on
Speaker 1: these teams, but you're spending more time with your players
Speaker 1: than the head coach often or anyone else in the building.
Speaker 1: And everyone just came out saying this guy in his family,
Speaker 1: his kids, his wife, they just adored him. And so
Speaker 1: the person had a huge impact on the people he coached,
Speaker 1: and it was so sudden. I mean, he was the
Speaker 1: offensive line coach of the Vikings. You know, he had
Speaker 1: a doctor's appointment reportedly last week and was feeling some
Speaker 1: chest beins and so it really came out of nowhere
Speaker 1: and shocked the Vikings. And you're right, Mark, Like, when
Speaker 1: we think of NFL coaches, you think, well, was he
Speaker 1: a success? Was he not? You think about like wins
Speaker 1: and losses, and like listening to some of the people
Speaker 1: like Jake Long had a really long, uh, really beautiful
Speaker 1: tweet saying how how much Sperano had meant to him
Speaker 1: and his family and was maybe you know, the most
Speaker 1: important UH coach and kind of a father figure in
Speaker 1: his life. And Donald Penn, who's now with the Raiders UH,
Speaker 1: said very much the same thing. Reggie bus Chadpan and
Speaker 1: all these people, and you think, like, that's that's success.
Speaker 1: Like just listening to everyone talk about how how important
Speaker 1: he put his family and how clearly loyal. All the
Speaker 1: players that that code that played under him were like
Speaker 1: that success. He had an incredible success, and it's easy
Speaker 1: to forget that he had that one season in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight when they did win the division. We're
Speaker 1: watching Ronnie Brown and the Dolphins run that wildcat. That
Speaker 1: was a sensation for months to thirteen. Still the worst
Speaker 1: home loss of the Belichick era in New England. They
Speaker 1: had no they had no answers. Ronny Brown I think
Speaker 1: had nine touches and or and four touchdowns or three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: It was complete, like coaching masterpiece. So Sperrano, even though
Speaker 1: maybe it didn't end well in Miami, he always had that,
Speaker 1: including that division title. Um. So rest in the peace,
Speaker 1: Tony Sperrano. Let's move on to Andrew Luck and more
Speaker 1: good news for the Colts. Quarterback. General manager Chris Ballard
Speaker 1: announced Friday that the stars your favorite type of Well,
Speaker 1: he said that, but then he also said that the
Speaker 1: team's star quarterback was quote good to go for training camp.
Speaker 1: That per Kevin Bowen of ten seventy to fan in Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: Luck will practice without limitations and take the teams starting
Speaker 1: snaps in camp, uh with the dose of built in
Speaker 1: days off, and he will play in the preseason. Mark.
Speaker 1: This is all exactly what a Colts fan wants to hear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean this has been one of the more elongated
Speaker 1: beguiling narratives for so long because they've gone back and
Speaker 1: forth on what Luck would be able to do in
Speaker 1: various O t A s and mini camps. And this if,
Speaker 1: assuming there's no setback at all, is a definitive answer
Speaker 1: that we're going to get Andrew Luck back at full
Speaker 1: strength this season, and it completely changes what the cults are.
Speaker 1: He's at the fever. Remember Jim Mersey said it, He's
Speaker 1: got the hundred and seven degree fever for success, And
Speaker 1: now here it is, and it's proof and it makes
Speaker 1: me more excited to watch football in two thousand eight teams,
Speaker 1: there aren't many players more fun to watch. Remember we
Speaker 1: look that up. If you haven't a hundred and seven refever,
Speaker 1: you need to seek medical attention to media, life is
Speaker 1: in danger. You're dead, You're very close to it. It's
Speaker 1: not it's it's boiling West. I don't know why you're laughing.
Speaker 1: It's Mark. I don't find it funny at all. I
Speaker 1: think you would. You would need to seek medical help
Speaker 1: as soon as possible. Little updates on some star players
Speaker 1: that will be at camp this week or when they're
Speaker 1: camps or team's report. Odell Beckham Jr. Another elongated narrative
Speaker 1: Mark speaking of which uh he will be with the
Speaker 1: team and report on time on Wednesday. Kimberly Jones reported
Speaker 1: he wants to play football Comma, he wants to win
Speaker 1: Hubba Hubba. Also David Johnson, he will be ready to go. Um.
Speaker 1: Johnson coming back from that wrist injury last year that
Speaker 1: basically cost him the entire season, but he is also
Speaker 1: heading into the final year of his rookie deal. Uh.
Speaker 1: They're trying to get a deal done, but that won't
Speaker 1: stop Johnson from playing ball with his teammates. And also
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy, who of course is uh embroiled in UH
Speaker 1: nothing that he's been connected to by the police, but
Speaker 1: the stories about the alleged home invasion robbery involving his
Speaker 1: ex girlfriend. Thought that maybe that would be something that
Speaker 1: would complicate his season, and it's still might but for now,
Speaker 1: he will report to the Bills on time on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: So all three of those men will be with their teammates.
Speaker 1: David Johnson and O'Dell Beckham fall into the same category
Speaker 1: with Aaron Donald and Khalil Mack as guys looking for
Speaker 1: contracts and you have to decide are you better serve
Speaker 1: showing up and trusting that the deal might get done,
Speaker 1: or holding out and trying to prompt the team into
Speaker 1: making a move. And rap Sheet Today on Our Airwaves
Speaker 1: said that out of all of them, Khalil Mack is
Speaker 1: the one to watch, that this could get serious, that
Speaker 1: there could be potential for him to hold out long
Speaker 1: into training camp. So Khalil Mack looks like the one
Speaker 1: that we're gonna want to watch. I'm happy that Dave,
Speaker 1: I mean David Johnson. It sounds like it's a matter
Speaker 1: of time until he gets his deal and we don't
Speaker 1: have to do this story. Yeah, and what I'm one
Speaker 1: thing on Odell Beckham. I looked it up today. Twenty
Speaker 1: one wide receivers will make more money than him this season.
Speaker 1: And yet the Giants have taken a bit of a
Speaker 1: different tone than than the Cardinals because Steve Kinds said
Speaker 1: we want to make this work with David Johnson. The
Speaker 1: Giants sound to be in no rush at all, and
Speaker 1: I just don't know how like you've got to get
Speaker 1: this thing done. I don't wonder if how much him
Speaker 1: being a total weirdo factors into the Giant's hesitation. I
Speaker 1: think the ownership spoken about that. I mean they feel
Speaker 1: like there's more to see with Odell Beckham. I'm, you know,
Speaker 1: being playful of my wording. But his personality, he's eccentric.
Speaker 1: He he may be a guy that they're not totally
Speaker 1: sure about investing that much money. And we'll see onto
Speaker 1: the Ravens nest. Oh my god, white, a white, a
Speaker 1: horrible bird. They get their own sound and drop. I
Speaker 1: don't you know these other teams out there should be
Speaker 1: I know, I think that's why the Ravens fans are
Speaker 1: so protective of this drop. That's horrible bird. That's a
Speaker 1: little harsh. That's one of those wings flap. It's one
Speaker 1: of the smartest animals in the Kingdom, you know what.
Speaker 1: That's fair. I actually was thinking that Rose and the
Speaker 1: Crow and the raven are different beasts. Well they're there
Speaker 1: are a lot alike, and they're both extremely intelligent as
Speaker 1: far as birds go. Yeah, a little overrated. That's like
Speaker 1: being the tallest person out like a family dinner or
Speaker 1: something like. You should YouTube it's like YouTube clips of
Speaker 1: of a bird like fashioning and implement out of a
Speaker 1: paper clip, just to pick something up like it works
Speaker 1: out problems and incomes and you would like send the
Speaker 1: ravens with messages in olden times. Well, I think that's
Speaker 1: more of a fiction, science fiction thing, but I can
Speaker 1: see it happening when you when are you going online
Speaker 1: and looking up clips of birds? Yeah, I'll take you.
Speaker 1: I'll take your words like it's a fascinating video. The bird,
Speaker 1: the bird is incredibly those birds off. Please, They did
Speaker 1: have a messenger pigeons back in the day, right, Who
Speaker 1: is the tallest member of your family? And now that
Speaker 1: you bring it up, I'm curious and like the history
Speaker 1: of the family, I guess my dad. No, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't really know beyond there. What about like a grandparents,
Speaker 1: small family, your brother, he's a couple in just talling
Speaker 1: me maybe by me, and you married. Your wife is Japanese,
Speaker 1: she's short, her family's short as well. I'm just as
Speaker 1: tall as her parents. Yeah. So you're continuing, You're you're
Speaker 1: advancing the trend. Yeah. Basically, when you're going all in,
Speaker 1: you're just leaning into it. But yeah, when I when
Speaker 1: when I see my son out there playing soccer, we're
Speaker 1: out there, I'm like, you, poor sucker, Actually soccer, I guess. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's good to be basketball. I um, I have a friend,
Speaker 1: you know, my friend Smasher. Yes, um, he's a big
Speaker 1: fan of the Belgian soccer team. It's where he's from. Said,
Speaker 1: their number one guy, their top star. Terrible example guy,
Speaker 1: terrible example to use soccer there, I should have said
Speaker 1: tennis basketball, something like that, Bud web Broye. Al Right,
Speaker 1: here we go onto the Ravens nest Joe Flacco. Oh,
Speaker 1: he is supposed to be the starting quarterback and probably
Speaker 1: will be for the Ravens. But don't forget about the
Speaker 1: rook Lamar Jackson, who was really doing himself some favors
Speaker 1: with a strong start to his training camp. Here's what
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Marty Morin wig more Hin wig more. I
Speaker 1: know how to say it, but then when you look
Speaker 1: at the spelling, it actually will trip you up. It's
Speaker 1: a I think maybe the number one toughest spelled spelled
Speaker 1: name in the game. Yeah, it's not a funderrated I've
Speaker 1: never learned. I still cannot. You know, it did it
Speaker 1: for me. Our former podcast producer, he reminded us on
Speaker 1: Twitter when you when this came up, you just gotta
Speaker 1: remember it's gap and then polo. But it sounds ridiculous,
Speaker 1: but that's helped me. Remember, because you're always talking about
Speaker 1: your Look at that gap over there in the corner.
Speaker 1: Here's what Marty had to say about Lamar. He's done
Speaker 1: an outstanding job to date. Uh. This from the Ravens
Speaker 1: official website. He's way ahead of the curve. This guy
Speaker 1: is a hard, hard worker and a tough minded guy.
Speaker 1: And you know what, don't just sleep on it. Oh
Speaker 1: so it's it's a wrap. This guy is gonna take
Speaker 1: the job over because it's not necessarily the truth because
Speaker 1: you know what else. Marty had this to say about
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. Oh my god, it looks like he's moving
Speaker 1: and grooving better than he has in several years. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he had the back injury last year and now
Speaker 1: he's looking good. There's there's a lot of like Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco is moving well, and Joe Flacco is motivated right now.
Speaker 1: That's what really speaks to me. That's on the radar
Speaker 1: a little bit. Why talking about that so much? Why
Speaker 1: does he need the motivation so much? You Dan, you
Speaker 1: are enjoying this like it's a Kicker bat I am
Speaker 1: like this really whatever that button is that the Kicker
Speaker 1: battles really pushed for you this particular quarterback battle is
Speaker 1: it's two great narratives. It's the young kid that everyone
Speaker 1: loves that could electrify the roster, and then the old dog.
Speaker 1: Now I feel like you're way more interested in seeing
Speaker 1: how Joe Flacco reacts to this. Yes, and and all
Speaker 1: the motivation stories and all, and he's old super Bowl hero.
Speaker 1: I think it's a really nice combination. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like what happened in any given Sunday with Jamie Foxx's
Speaker 1: character in Dennis Quait very much. So. I think, oh,
Speaker 1: that's where it keeps reminding me that the Giants did
Speaker 1: not go down this path. Yeah, just this could be
Speaker 1: the Giants. It could And I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: bad thing. Like I watched Flacco's press or the other day,
Speaker 1: he was kind of having fun with it. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's a new Joe Flacco or what, but
Speaker 1: he was kind of salt, He's a little sarcastic. He
Speaker 1: was kind of poking fun, having fun with it. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's much of a battle, uh one or
Speaker 1: whoever our reporter is there today, I'm it's Scarafolo. Mike
Speaker 1: says that said that Lamar Jackson's been lining up in
Speaker 1: the slot a couple of times today that he's been
Speaker 1: lining up as a wide receiver. I like that angle too.
Speaker 1: It's like I like that angle too, but that that
Speaker 1: means it's it's not a battle so mentioned that there
Speaker 1: have been a couple of times where he has just
Speaker 1: fried the defense. And I would love to know what
Speaker 1: the what the player by the time you get to
Speaker 1: end of this preseason, who the players want as their quarterback.
Speaker 1: It says potential for a lot of lamar jack is
Speaker 1: playing the slot, dropping third down passes when they take
Speaker 1: their slot receiver off the field, and he would have
Speaker 1: caught the past like this that you always hear about
Speaker 1: this in the summer and that the quarterback messes up
Speaker 1: and they're like, we were not going to do that again.
Speaker 1: It's like, sorry, Willie sneed you gotta go to the bench. Um.
Speaker 1: I like that. By the way, West, it was like,
Speaker 1: why is damn like this so much? Like is it
Speaker 1: like an interesting football story to He's like, no, it's
Speaker 1: from some stupid movie. That's why he likes. That's how
Speaker 1: you took my response. I mean, it's accurate. A lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of your sports interest ties in your
Speaker 1: pop culture interests as well. Yes, it's correct, moving on
Speaker 1: and all right. I think it's more about the personalities,
Speaker 1: like you are intrigued by the person. Uncomfortable where I am.
Speaker 1: Listen right now, I could be in the lab if
Speaker 1: I wanted to. Yeah, I don't choose to be right now.
Speaker 1: I'm upstairs in the kitchen. But I could go down
Speaker 1: to the lab if I needed to, So I can
Speaker 1: go up and down the flights of stuff. Just be
Speaker 1: happy you're still breathing. Unlike that guy who had to
Speaker 1: learn the Internet, who knows where he is but nobody
Speaker 1: knows hope to learn the Internet. I hope he's alive. Uh,
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel, remember that guy. Uh he's still in the CFL,
Speaker 1: but he hasn't been playing at all. Uh. The Hamilton
Speaker 1: Tiger Cats happened to have um the best quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league right now? Starting are you guys? Where? What's
Speaker 1: his name? I don't know who? What is it? I
Speaker 1: forget his first Jeremiah Massoli something like that. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: the guy that couldn't do the Internet. Maybe I have enough.
Speaker 1: I have enough teams to track. I don't track CFL
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis um. Anyway, the Tiger
Speaker 1: Cats have a study quarterback. They ad Manziel wasting way
Speaker 1: on the bench. It was probably a distraction. It is
Speaker 1: probably a major media story in the CFL. So what
Speaker 1: do they do. They ship them to the last place
Speaker 1: squad in the CFL, the Montreal Alouettes. Uh, a move
Speaker 1: that reunites Manzel with the head coach of the Alouettes.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, there he is Mike Sherman, former Packers
Speaker 1: offensive courts or head coach. And also h the man
Speaker 1: who recruited Manziel to Texas A and M once upon
Speaker 1: a time. Yeah, there you go. Although he didn't coach
Speaker 1: on her he's a red shirt guy. Sherman's first year
Speaker 1: and then I think Sherman got fired at A and M.
Speaker 1: And then, uh, they probably still like spoke to each
Speaker 1: other in the hallways. They're actually best friends, best friends,
Speaker 1: there's a link. I have two sources. I don't have
Speaker 1: a third, so I can't say that definitively that they're
Speaker 1: best friends at college. But here's what the GM of
Speaker 1: the outlets said about Manziel. We have acquired an exceptional
Speaker 1: quarterback with undeniable talent, with his great mobility, his athletic
Speaker 1: abilities and his instinct. We believe that we have a
Speaker 1: positive impact on our offense and offense spelled with a
Speaker 1: C at the ends. Who would who would have guessed
Speaker 1: that on July we'd be talking about Manzel being traded
Speaker 1: for two first round picks and two players still got
Speaker 1: value just not here. I don't know who. I don't
Speaker 1: know who? What the who is the CFL drafting? When
Speaker 1: is their draft occur? Because they're not taking Sequon Barkley
Speaker 1: away from the Giants, I don't know. What's a little
Speaker 1: confusing with like how much I don't really know their
Speaker 1: Their chart with the draft picks is clearly out of
Speaker 1: whack compared to the NFL's. If Johnny Manzel's worth two
Speaker 1: first round picks wanting a blockbuster deal up in the CFL,
Speaker 1: where are the wasted draft pick on a guy or not?
Speaker 1: In the CFL? Do you like if you get whispers
Speaker 1: that somebody's interested in maybe possibly playing for Canada, you
Speaker 1: could waste a draft pick on the German? Isn't the
Speaker 1: guy I feel like to turn his career around? But
Speaker 1: a Manzel? We haven't heard him speaking out in frustration,
Speaker 1: Although how would We know he's in Canada, but this
Speaker 1: means we get him. He'll be playing in days. Get
Speaker 1: him in the lineup. Somebody who are not getting him
Speaker 1: in the lineup. I don't know what they're doing, man,
Speaker 1: I know why he didn't like for the Tiger Cats.
Speaker 1: But now get him in the lineup. But the bad team.
Speaker 1: Let's go Alouettes. UH. The NFL UH and the NFL
Speaker 1: Players Association announced in a joint statement Thursday. This happened
Speaker 1: right after our last podcast, that the league and team
Speaker 1: policies regarding conduct during the playing of the national anthem
Speaker 1: will not be issued or enforced for several weeks as
Speaker 1: part of a stand still agreement between the two sides.
Speaker 1: A source and forms of this situation told our own
Speaker 1: Tom Pellicero that everything connected to league and club policies
Speaker 1: on the anthem will remain on hold as discussions between
Speaker 1: the two sides play out. In a statement, read a
Speaker 1: little part of the statement from the union, the NFL
Speaker 1: and NFL p A, through recent discussions have been working
Speaker 1: on a resolution important word there to the anthem issue. UM.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how this plays out. This was always
Speaker 1: the thing Gregg that jumped out to me. When this
Speaker 1: controversy went off last month, was how were these two entities,
Speaker 1: the NFL and the p A not in lockstep when
Speaker 1: the announcement was made. So maybe better late than never, uh,
Speaker 1: to pull it back and try to get this right.
Speaker 1: This development I think was embarrassing for the league to
Speaker 1: have to do. But I'm just hopeful as a fan,
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you NFL and NFL p A come
Speaker 1: up with a solution that that makes everyone happy, the players,
Speaker 1: the owners, us, all of it. I think you can
Speaker 1: do it. Well, here's the solution. Don't do anything. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, keep it on hold. No, don't do anything,
Speaker 1: but you have to announce that you're not going to
Speaker 1: do everything anything. It's obs first. I would do that.
Speaker 1: I put it on hold, not say anything, not not
Speaker 1: respond to the president's tweets, but he's already done one.
Speaker 1: And just play football and just let it play and
Speaker 1: let people exercise their rights. You know, it's the only
Speaker 1: like they've gotten in their way over and over and
Speaker 1: over with this. This was the first sensible kind of
Speaker 1: move and the only way to move forward is to
Speaker 1: not try to impose this team by team sort of
Speaker 1: state by state law on this issue. But you're not
Speaker 1: gonna make everyone happy no matter what you do. You're
Speaker 1: not you do make us happy, you know, people, not everyone.
Speaker 1: You do wonder if some of the owners who are
Speaker 1: most vocal, seemingly and trying to make the story go
Speaker 1: away a and trying to play Kate the president will
Speaker 1: maybe feel differently now than they did in the spring.
Speaker 1: You can only hope that's what's happening in the news.
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, so here we are. It is the
Speaker 1: last week of July. Teams are reporting, players are reporting.
Speaker 1: Uh and guess what, some of the players reporting to
Speaker 1: camp aren't going to make it to them to camp
Speaker 1: with their teams. And that was the subject of the
Speaker 1: latest banger from Greg rosenthal Um titled, as I noted earlier,
Speaker 1: Greg's title notable bros on roster bubble in training camp
Speaker 1: and a lot of mylids out of this bit. I
Speaker 1: don't know, just something that makes me laugh, the idea
Speaker 1: of you typing bros and the headline, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, what's the difference between bros and guys? Well,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a fair question. Not every guy is
Speaker 1: a bro Hm, but every bro is a guy. I
Speaker 1: mean in theory. Yeah, that's it is. It's gonna the
Speaker 1: really unpacked that one. Um. Anyway, So Greg, you uh,
Speaker 1: you laid out some I would say, prominent players of
Speaker 1: all different sizes and shapes and ages. Uh. And you
Speaker 1: started the list. Uh, it doesn't look like it's alphabetical.
Speaker 1: So I'll start with the guy that you talked about first.
Speaker 1: It's Donald Penn, who has been um offensive line with
Speaker 1: the Raiders. And you think that is a guy right there,
Speaker 1: look out and that that would probably be a man
Speaker 1: that would attract the market. I think if he ended
Speaker 1: up on the street, they'll only cut him. I believe
Speaker 1: if he's not healthy. He's a big man, thirty five
Speaker 1: years old coming off a major foot surgery. He's guaranteed
Speaker 1: three million dollars or else he already might be cut,
Speaker 1: so they'll see if he's healthy. And if he's healthy,
Speaker 1: I think you have a chance to make the team.
Speaker 1: But they drafted a left tackle and they're not moving
Speaker 1: that left tackle, Colton Miller, to the right side at
Speaker 1: all during training camp or practices or anything. Colton Miller's
Speaker 1: playing the left side. And if he's just a better
Speaker 1: player than than Penn, who was originally a buccaneer when
Speaker 1: John Gruden was there way back in two thousand seven.
Speaker 1: What an undrafted player Donald Pennis turned into? And it
Speaker 1: would be very John Gruden on brand for a cutthroat.
Speaker 1: Let's release the guy that used to be with me
Speaker 1: in Tampa. I've got no no alignment to annual. I mean,
Speaker 1: you think that Gruden would love a player that was
Speaker 1: around a decade plus ago, but I think a lot
Speaker 1: of them. I think he's a sneaky, cutthroat guy. Pen
Speaker 1: also called up rude and furious when they drafted Colton
Speaker 1: Miller called him up on the phone. Maybe Gruden said no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, don't like that. No one calls me on
Speaker 1: the phone. M West. I'm gonna lay out four quarterbacks
Speaker 1: on Greg's list, Which one to you was the most
Speaker 1: likely and the least likely to be cut? Brett Hunley
Speaker 1: of the Packers, Robert Griffin the Third of the Raven,
Speaker 1: Steady Bridgewater of the Jets, and Paxton Lynch of the Broncos.
Speaker 1: I think Robert Griffin the Third and Brett Hunley are
Speaker 1: in the same basket here because but very rarely do
Speaker 1: teams keep three quarterbacks anymore, and the Packers went out
Speaker 1: and got Deshaun Kaiser, who's another young quarterback to put
Speaker 1: behind Aaron Rodgers. And they saw last year they couldn't
Speaker 1: rely on Brett Hunley, so why carry a guy you
Speaker 1: can't rely on? And then r G three they signed
Speaker 1: him before they drafted Lamar Jackson, And again, I don't
Speaker 1: see teams wanting to keep three quarterbacks, so I would
Speaker 1: think r G three is probably in major danger of
Speaker 1: getting cut. I think he has a good decent chance
Speaker 1: to stay r G three until they seems to be
Speaker 1: really sold on this idea that like him and Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson have somewhat similar skill sets and that that sounds
Speaker 1: like a like a backup of the future. It sounds
Speaker 1: great till you need a special teamer on game day.
Speaker 1: What if he I'm I'd like to see an r
Speaker 1: G three having a nice preseason and training camp and
Speaker 1: just kind of be back in the mix, and that
Speaker 1: he he shows them that he's an NFL quarterback and
Speaker 1: that they would just want to keep him. I mean,
Speaker 1: and if you're r G three, I would I would
Speaker 1: assume the moment that they drafted Lamar Jackson, you're kind
Speaker 1: of like crap, because that is never going to be
Speaker 1: the place for him. Uh, He's never gonna get real time.
Speaker 1: He would would be better off at this stage of
Speaker 1: his career having a new home, but at this point
Speaker 1: he was the NFL let so he doesn't have really
Speaker 1: that type of power to be able to, like I
Speaker 1: want to be somewhere else. He's just trying to re
Speaker 1: establish him own. Last time we saw him, he was
Speaker 1: far from impressive. The Ravens can cut him and resign
Speaker 1: him at any point. Two running backs, Mark Sessler, that
Speaker 1: you would think could help a team if they are
Speaker 1: motivated or reach the potential that others or some at
Speaker 1: some point believe they could have. Uh, Doug Martin, who
Speaker 1: is currently of course with the Raiders uh due to
Speaker 1: make one point three seven million, but they have a
Speaker 1: lot of running backs on the roster in Oakland. And
Speaker 1: Amer Abdullah, who Greg believes will find a way most
Speaker 1: likely to stay with the Lions. Your thoughts on those
Speaker 1: two backs. I feel like we've heard that Gruden really
Speaker 1: likes Doug Martin, so I don't know, but I guess
Speaker 1: that depends on what version of Doug Martin do we
Speaker 1: get between now and cut time. Because it's out and
Speaker 1: even years right, whether an odd he's a passable running
Speaker 1: but I think that ended last and we were buying
Speaker 1: into that last year, and he had a lot of
Speaker 1: preseason hype last year and it didn't work out. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Lions for once have an intriguing backfield with depth
Speaker 1: than different types of back so Abduela is going to
Speaker 1: just have to find a way to be more impressive.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like the rookie could lead them
Speaker 1: and carries and we'll just have to see. Was it
Speaker 1: your love of Frank Gore that saved him from being
Speaker 1: on this list out of respect? I mean, because he
Speaker 1: seems like the most likely running back to me to
Speaker 1: not make the team. They've been talking him up so much,
Speaker 1: and I look at that roster and he looks very
Speaker 1: much like a guy who's going to make the roster
Speaker 1: as a backup running back. What about I don't see
Speaker 1: what's going to change, but well, the fact that he's
Speaker 1: he hasn't been a good running back for a while. Solid,
Speaker 1: he's better on better on tape than than he he
Speaker 1: hasn't been a good running back for a while. He's
Speaker 1: one of the major reasons why the Colt Tavan had
Speaker 1: a rushing attack. Adrian Peterson has thoroughly outplayed him as
Speaker 1: a runner. That's why he's Adrian Peterson rush for over
Speaker 1: thirty arts twice in six games last year with the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Frank Gore didn't do it once in three years with
Speaker 1: the Colts. It all makes sense, and he averaged three
Speaker 1: point seven yards per carry the last two years. Happens
Speaker 1: very good when it happens when agendas clash. And then
Speaker 1: he's thirty five years old. He's not like he's gonna
Speaker 1: get better now. Like I'm not in the lab, but
Speaker 1: I can hear this argument from the second floor of
Speaker 1: the house. He's one of the smartest guys, so he's
Speaker 1: not going on the field that much, but he's kind
Speaker 1: of signing him. He stayed, He stayed around a little bit.
Speaker 1: New listeners of the show. Wes has forever been a
Speaker 1: big fan of Adrian Peterson, both in the past and
Speaker 1: still believes in the present and the future. And Greg
Speaker 1: basically Frank Gore even wrote a long form about the
Speaker 1: Inconvenient truth is has long been a supporter of Gore
Speaker 1: as one of them rated backs. And I wouldn't put
Speaker 1: him on this list because there's there's been no indication
Speaker 1: to think that he would get cut there just because
Speaker 1: they seem the game films the indication. That's the like,
Speaker 1: why why isn't they every other old guy you put
Speaker 1: on this list but you don't put Frank. I'm a
Speaker 1: little concerned just that that West is getting kickbacks from
Speaker 1: a Juan Peterson at this way, it is conserned. Peterson
Speaker 1: saw that in the off season Champion. He said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: can you help me out? I know you've always all
Speaker 1: these uh, wine and cheese parties aren't cheap. Go watch
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson play last year, then go watch Frank Gore. Right,
Speaker 1: that's fine, but that has nothing to do with whether
Speaker 1: Frank Gore is gonna get cut. He's gonna get cut
Speaker 1: because he's just not very good. That like Andy's old,
Speaker 1: so that's probably is not willing to be a backup though, Right,
Speaker 1: that's the issue. It's like, that's like a as we
Speaker 1: said a million times, he plays two downs and he
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be pulled off the field. That doesn't
Speaker 1: fit into almost any team situation. I've never disagreed within right,
Speaker 1: whereas Frank Gore in a pinch, it starts snowing. You
Speaker 1: can just give him the ball forties several times. You
Speaker 1: can just keep him on the field every down and
Speaker 1: he's not going to complain. He'll play on Thursday, three
Speaker 1: days later. Get twenty more heres and there's some value
Speaker 1: in that. Yeah, if you ever have a blizzard, just
Speaker 1: sign him because they'll be sitting out there. Uh, Greg,
Speaker 1: any anybody else on this list or not on this
Speaker 1: list that you you wanted put on. But then he said, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want to get like you know, I got
Speaker 1: killed last year with Carlos Hide. I don't want to
Speaker 1: get killed again. Well, I I'm gonna throw out Malcolm
Speaker 1: Mitchell because he's popped up in a report that's came
Speaker 1: out as we were taping here a little breaking news.
Speaker 1: This is not breaking news NFL network. Uh Tom Pella
Speaker 1: Sero breaking some more news lately. I have been seeking
Speaker 1: a potential trade partner for Malcolm Mitchell. Sources that bums
Speaker 1: me out cheap in the whole brand of the breaking new.
Speaker 1: But I think are they breaking that on our site.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check that right now. They're not even developing it,
Speaker 1: So it's it's lucky it got a post. It got
Speaker 1: a post on the website that says to me that
Speaker 1: he is in danger of not making a team, and
Speaker 1: that's a bummer because they would not have won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl two years ago without on the as a rookie.
Speaker 1: And on the topic of a f c ST wide receivers,
Speaker 1: potentially on the bubble, you wrote about Jermaine Curse of
Speaker 1: the Jets, who a team like the Jet that does
Speaker 1: not have a lot of firepower. Curse is a very
Speaker 1: capable wide receiver. And your wide receiver room has Trrell Prior,
Speaker 1: a guys some upside but cannot stay healthy. And Robby Anderson,
Speaker 1: who's a confirmed knucklehead. Let's be honest. Give me more bodies,
Speaker 1: not less bodies. Do not part ways of Jermaine Curse.
Speaker 1: He's probably this he They have four intriguing receivers, but
Speaker 1: he's the safest bet of them. Trope, I would be
Speaker 1: more less surprised to seats are all Prior get cut.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's better? I don't think he's better.
Speaker 1: But this is the guy coming in new class, coming
Speaker 1: off a neck injury, and Curse has been solid that
Speaker 1: that Patriots receiver position is intriguing. I think they like
Speaker 1: like Cordrell Patterson is making that team, and they're pretty
Speaker 1: deep there. Kenny Britt might might end up making it
Speaker 1: over over Malcolm Mitchell. I thought maybe on this list
Speaker 1: would be Josh Gordon changes this a little bit, but
Speaker 1: I don't this happened after you wrote it. Corey Coleman,
Speaker 1: I feel like he's come up at He's come up
Speaker 1: over and over in trade whispers, and I don't think
Speaker 1: he's that could have been. I don't. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: he's the hard ist, working player on the roster um.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're going to frame Coleman for like
Speaker 1: type of I would like him. I think it would
Speaker 1: be would be great if he were good. I felt
Speaker 1: the way about Kenny Britt. I don't feel the way
Speaker 1: Kenny Britt, you know, got him in trouble too. It's
Speaker 1: like this guy, come on, Corey Coleman. Enough for this
Speaker 1: guy making a lot of money. That would be bad
Speaker 1: if they are any because because no one of these
Speaker 1: it says more likely to be traded than cuts. But
Speaker 1: who would want him? He could have fit in. I
Speaker 1: guess somebody could take a flyer take First of all,
Speaker 1: like a lot of his issues, A lot of his
Speaker 1: issues have been injury related. Almost all of it, but
Speaker 1: heavily heard some bad Yeah, it's not right. This is
Speaker 1: not Oh, this is Teddy Bridgewater behind the scenes, and
Speaker 1: we just love this kid. It's not like allegedly threatening
Speaker 1: a CoP's wife. Knucklehead behavior. Like my wide receiver, but
Speaker 1: your wide receiver maybe not the best locker room guy.
Speaker 1: You've heard some of that out there a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's out there. I mean marks Mark AMC's a detached
Speaker 1: Browns fan. But bring up Corey Coleman and that's out.
Speaker 1: Get this guy off the team. No, I don't. I
Speaker 1: want him to be good, but it's just like it's
Speaker 1: an incredibly frustrating player, you know, till now. He he
Speaker 1: was taken in the first round a year before Briscade Perriman,
Speaker 1: who is definitely we're back in the back end, was
Speaker 1: drafted before after after Yeah, sorry, he's been in the
Speaker 1: league last and and I saw someone right this it's interesting.
Speaker 1: Braside Pairman might be the biggest first round bust in
Speaker 1: team history, which makes me think you've had a pretty
Speaker 1: good drafting record, and that's true of the of the
Speaker 1: Ravens in the first round. But he is no better
Speaker 1: than number four on the depth chart going into the King.
Speaker 1: He's done nothing in his career at all. He's gotten
Speaker 1: injured a lot too. You still got a vanity r
Speaker 1: R L on that, Frank Gore love for what was
Speaker 1: it Gore? Yeah, sure, it's still sitting there. I would
Speaker 1: say Matt Matt Elam for the Ravens didn't now too well,
Speaker 1: that's that's a good call. Oh flag on the play. Sorry,
Speaker 1: this page was not found. They yanked your Frank Frank alright,
Speaker 1: So NFL dot Com slash Frank Gore to really get
Speaker 1: a real deep dive on Greg's I don't know why,
Speaker 1: and Mark, I mean West is just trying to get
Speaker 1: get under my skin or something. I'm not I really
Speaker 1: do think that he belongs on a list of players,
Speaker 1: likely Tobe. He's coming from a real place West, but
Speaker 1: he's enjoying also needly, I I have really I heard
Speaker 1: from someone who looked into his tape. Thought he ran
Speaker 1: a lot better in the league. Thought he ran a
Speaker 1: lot better than the number showed last year. He's solid.
Speaker 1: He's just a backup. He's a solid that can do
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. You heard from someone I
Speaker 1: talked to someone in the league. Yeah, this is true,
Speaker 1: true story. How many people did you have before you
Speaker 1: got that people analysis. I disagree with this person you
Speaker 1: talked to in the league. I watched the film too,
Speaker 1: and West as a fellow lab rat, that's what we
Speaker 1: call each other. Um, Adrian Peterson deserves a job in
Speaker 1: this league. Yeah right, And I believe and I agree
Speaker 1: he's he's hard to accommodate that rats and labor because
Speaker 1: you're not going to sign him to be a backup
Speaker 1: or a construmentary, complementary player. He has to be a
Speaker 1: workhorse in order to be worth having on yours. His
Speaker 1: destiny feels like when Chris Carson gets injured in training
Speaker 1: camp and then they realize where shod Penny was maybe
Speaker 1: not ready to be a first round draft picks, like hey, hey,
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, come be the Week one starter for the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. That just fields right, We're days away from
Speaker 1: devastating injury. I was gonna say, as much as you
Speaker 1: don't want to say this, this is the nature of
Speaker 1: the game. Two weeks from now, there will be one
Speaker 1: to three running backs that will have blown the ra
Speaker 1: c ls. Just don't I'm what do you want me
Speaker 1: to suggests that you're absolutely maybe Whitaker did in the
Speaker 1: first day of O T as this happens. It sucks.
Speaker 1: The ligament was not built for the sport, and yet
Speaker 1: it goes on. I would not want to be greg
Speaker 1: with all the Seahawks fans, all the twelves about to
Speaker 1: getting his mentions for already writing offer shot Penny Um
Speaker 1: throwing out an example. We will be again. This is
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