Speaker 1: Route Force. If it doesn't work, you're just not easing
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Speaker 1: your host Brendan red Jack commercial. I'm the rest of
Speaker 1: the boys. I suffer, Suffer dot com on time on Target,
Speaker 1: I mean in Scato. Jason Delgado is back in studio
Speaker 1: with me. I don't know what we're allowing to review,
Speaker 1: but I feel like we're gonna be seeing a lot
Speaker 1: for jameson delgatt out a fortunately, hopefully, hopefully you know
Speaker 1: that that would be a good thing because that means
Speaker 1: I don't have to keep going overseas. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, but that that would be great because
Speaker 1: it's if you're wishing well, I mean, you just put
Speaker 1: a book out. We'll get into the release parties, which
Speaker 1: we really talked about both of them. Um. But I
Speaker 1: just got back the other day from Jack's wedding. Congratulations guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah in New York City, you know, right on the water.
Speaker 1: Jack Murphy benedetto our gente area, who you've heard on
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, I mean, well, as I was telling
Speaker 1: you off air, her families from Italy, so you know
Speaker 1: a lot of these people giving speeches in Italian that
Speaker 1: didn't speak English, so it was it was a very
Speaker 1: like different weddings, very godfather like. Were they pinning dollars
Speaker 1: to address? There's none of that. But it was also
Speaker 1: very untraditional there they do their own thing that I'm
Speaker 1: probably gonna further the stereotype that Jack somehow liberal, which
Speaker 1: is not. But I like throw stuff out there. You
Speaker 1: don't have to be you don't have to be a
Speaker 1: liberal to be cool, weird, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm cool whatever, you know, be free, be you encourage that.
Speaker 1: But so here's the thing. Jack Murphy's best man was
Speaker 1: Jim West and he gave like an epic thirty minutes speech.
Speaker 1: Did he did he go in detail on how to
Speaker 1: snap a man's throat? He didn't, but he talked about
Speaker 1: like different combat related stuff meeting Jack and you could
Speaker 1: tell that I mentioned people in the Audien was like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: who's this guy? Yeah they were, they were like completely
Speaker 1: puzzled as to as to who he was, what he
Speaker 1: was even talking about that no one had, no one
Speaker 1: had the bass to say he's gonna kill me. But yeah,
Speaker 1: then Jack did go Jim went up to me after
Speaker 1: and yes, alright, bro, I don't know how he when
Speaker 1: he's in over here, you know, I never know every
Speaker 1: time he picks up his hands like oh, where's that going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's the man. I love him. So, I mean it
Speaker 1: was a great pick for that's the guy. That's the
Speaker 1: guy I'll invite to any party I throw because he
Speaker 1: will be the life of the party and sometimes, like
Speaker 1: if you're the host, you kind of want to take
Speaker 1: a break and like dip off. You know, he'll keep
Speaker 1: it going. Yeah, people gravitate around him. Yeah, he definitely
Speaker 1: is the wife of the party. UM. So I want
Speaker 1: to get into some of the announcements going on with
Speaker 1: the radio that I mentioned in the last episode of
Speaker 1: the odissean Um and what we have in store foren.
Speaker 1: But before that, we had two release parties for your book,
Speaker 1: Bounty Hunter for three. I was at the first of
Speaker 1: which was which was an eminent here in the city. Um.
Speaker 1: And then you just had one the same day as
Speaker 1: Jack's wedding in Pennsylvania. Yes, that was beautiful with our
Speaker 1: friend Dan Thankulick's um yeah, his uh distillery. Um, he's
Speaker 1: a master distiller and his distilleries called Tattered Flag Brewery,
Speaker 1: which they were gracious enough to host a book signing
Speaker 1: event for me where I mean they make sure you know,
Speaker 1: um I had books there. Um they were so awesome beers.
Speaker 1: You know. I think they have like a like a
Speaker 1: mango and ghost pepper beer, like it's it's it's crazy.
Speaker 1: They called it manghost It's freaking amazing. Man actually, So
Speaker 1: you know, I don't really drink much, but every now
Speaker 1: and again. I did once try a mango hab Narrow beer.
Speaker 1: And the reason why is I love mango having what's yeah,
Speaker 1: And so I was like, I have to try this.
Speaker 1: It was it was interesting. It's interesting. But what this
Speaker 1: one is is crazy because the ghost pepper is so subtle.
Speaker 1: You don't feel it at all except in the warmth
Speaker 1: in your throat. And it's not even like a discomfort.
Speaker 1: It's just like a whoa, there's just a little warmth
Speaker 1: in the back end there. It's crazy. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It blew my mind. Not actually spicy, No, it's not spicy.
Speaker 1: It just gives you a little heat in your throat.
Speaker 1: So it's that combination really of cool and the contrast
Speaker 1: of cool and warm. That's what it's bugged out. It's crazy,
Speaker 1: It's awesome. You gotta try it, man. Yeah, Dan is
Speaker 1: always experiment is ninja bro. He's like the best distiller ever,
Speaker 1: the only distiller I know. But he is sick. Like
Speaker 1: his single mall is bananas. His vodka is like smoother
Speaker 1: than Belvedere. Like I say that now, I'm serious, It
Speaker 1: is smooth. Like he's the real deal, this guy. So
Speaker 1: what are some of the questions you've been getting from
Speaker 1: people have picked up the book or um questions I
Speaker 1: I've been getting And this is how, you know, people
Speaker 1: um interpreted what I wanted to say the way I
Speaker 1: wanted to say it. They interpreted that way because they're
Speaker 1: asking me questions more on the Hey have you talked
Speaker 1: to Jesse? You know, like, hey, um, you know, I
Speaker 1: feel if it's unfortunate what happened to the relationship between
Speaker 1: you and your daughter and you're you know, a strange
Speaker 1: wife or whatever, And you know, I get those like,
Speaker 1: you know, how do you move on at this point
Speaker 1: of way? So people read it and like actually felt
Speaker 1: the emotion. And if I was a person open to
Speaker 1: emotion and I would read that those are like questions
Speaker 1: I would be intrigued to know like, I want to
Speaker 1: know what happened to this guy afterwards, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I don't know. I think I think
Speaker 1: that really just solidified to me that I sort of
Speaker 1: hit the mark. But I don't know yet, you know,
Speaker 1: because guys, you know, this is like the first week.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything. You know, it's not like what
Speaker 1: you think it is. Like when you have a book,
Speaker 1: you got a team of people right behind you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, you're not. You don't got a team of
Speaker 1: people running behind you, like cell phones and like jotting
Speaker 1: down And I wish I had that crap because I'm
Speaker 1: forgetting interviews. Like I'll get like a sheet of like
Speaker 1: an agenda for the week for the pr bro and
Speaker 1: I will be home, like mopping the floor or something,
Speaker 1: or listening to like freaking Ario Speedwagon or something, and
Speaker 1: I'll get a phone call and I'll answer it, thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like one of my friends and stuff,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm like, hey, what's up. We're hey,
Speaker 1: this is w kk g Y. We're on in five
Speaker 1: thanks for taking this interview. And I'm like whoa, whoa
Speaker 1: hold on And I'm not ready for this, you know,
Speaker 1: And uh, it's nuts, but it's you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: about that life, but it's I don't know anything, you know,
Speaker 1: so and you all stuff to keep in mind, Which
Speaker 1: did you get used to not cursing on this? I've
Speaker 1: gotten better. I've gotten better and um, fortunately for me,
Speaker 1: they you know, most broadcasts, A most live broadcasts have
Speaker 1: a dumb button. They have like an eight second delay
Speaker 1: or something, so thank god for that. But you know,
Speaker 1: I've only got dumped on twice this last two weeks.
Speaker 1: And for me, and you guys know me, and I'm
Speaker 1: thinking pause and you said I only got dumped one twice.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, pause, pause, Yeah, I didn't get dumped on, dude,
Speaker 1: I got the dumpo and I got I only got
Speaker 1: dumped done twice this last week and a half. So
Speaker 1: I'm pretty impressed with That's great for me, Ian, That's
Speaker 1: better than not bad for me here. I think you've
Speaker 1: you've done a pretty good job with it. What do
Speaker 1: you have to you know? Yeah, you know, I try
Speaker 1: to get there. And you know what's crazy, Like you
Speaker 1: remember we were talking about um when the book came out.
Speaker 1: How the publicist sends all those freaking like UM like
Speaker 1: introduction bullet points and stuff like that to the host
Speaker 1: and it's like it's still number one top sniper of
Speaker 1: the world. Then I feel like I need a belt,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, because I like distracts
Speaker 1: from like what I wanted to put out there. So
Speaker 1: like every I gotta waste like two or three seconds
Speaker 1: time I listen. There's no such thing as heavyweight Champion
Speaker 1: Sniper of the Universe. Okay, Like, guys, I just worked
Speaker 1: in Iraq. There was a sniper in Iraq, you know,
Speaker 1: and I came home and taught guys, you know, how
Speaker 1: to shoot, so you know, but they always want to
Speaker 1: put a label on it because you know, they're in
Speaker 1: the business of setting and I get it, but wow,
Speaker 1: it is so like embarrassing, you know. It's like you
Speaker 1: get that mortified thing because you know, there's like thousands
Speaker 1: of people listening and he's like, did this guy just
Speaker 1: say what I think he said? You know. So it's
Speaker 1: still hard for me to like kind of see past that.
Speaker 1: So I always like spend time like check yourself. I
Speaker 1: guess they just have to have that one line of
Speaker 1: for someone like but I never gave him any of that,
Speaker 1: And it's like, but the thing is it's like when
Speaker 1: guys of my background or guys in my community here
Speaker 1: that and it's like, oh, here, this freaking clown goes
Speaker 1: talking about he's the biggest ninja sniper inverse. And that
Speaker 1: wasn't me, that was none of me. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they feel like listeners just have to wonder, like, who
Speaker 1: is this guy? And why do I care about him?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So the easy one is
Speaker 1: when Rob O'Neil goes on somewhere the man who shot
Speaker 1: Bin Wadden, that's all you need. And then that takes
Speaker 1: a from and I get it. And that's and I
Speaker 1: don't know that world that much. Oh you know, I
Speaker 1: got you know, I got a little background in the media,
Speaker 1: but I don't know that world that much. So that
Speaker 1: you know, I am unrestricted in that sort of self gloating,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, and that that does that
Speaker 1: if the bottom dollar is the bottom dollar, you know,
Speaker 1: let's be honest, gentlemen, it's about that. It's about getting
Speaker 1: that message and that image across and whatever it is.
Speaker 1: I understand that part, but a lot of us, you
Speaker 1: know or me, I didn't set out to do this
Speaker 1: project for that, and and it wasn't even like I
Speaker 1: set out to do this project. I was asked to
Speaker 1: do this project, and I thought to myself, Hell yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm broke as hell. Hell yeah, let's do this. How
Speaker 1: much can I make? I don't you don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't care. Let's go whatever, you know. And that's
Speaker 1: that's the stage I'm at now. Like you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna crap an opportunity to feed my kids, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So, and let me tell you
Speaker 1: there's there's not that many out there nowadays short of me,
Speaker 1: like I said, constantly deploying. So it's it's interesting man,
Speaker 1: how I think. Like I said, people just have to
Speaker 1: have that title that makes them sound important. For I
Speaker 1: guess I don't need that title. You could have it.
Speaker 1: We just had during the company meeting. We had that
Speaker 1: guy Lanny Bash and we've back there, um who's an
Speaker 1: Olympian gold shooter sorry, Olympian gold medal winner for shooting
Speaker 1: And wait, hold on, that's a title. Yeah, you see
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, don't come at me with like
Speaker 1: master Sniper of the Universe, like, but you come at
Speaker 1: me like fucking women's gold Medalists of the twenty two
Speaker 1: thousand twelve Olympic soccer team, like fun, Yeah, holy crap,
Speaker 1: that's a hero. But he's kind of interesting. So when
Speaker 1: he was when he was the silver silver medal winner,
Speaker 1: he said that the only question people would ask who
Speaker 1: is the gold medal winner? You know? And he's like,
Speaker 1: it just it kind of sucks that that's the one,
Speaker 1: you know. And he was like, when I won the
Speaker 1: gold rob him of all his efforts. Yeah, So he
Speaker 1: was talking about all the obstacles he had to overcome
Speaker 1: after he won the golden medal of like, alright, I've
Speaker 1: done this, Now where do I go from here? Brandon's
Speaker 1: talked about it on the podcast before, also on his
Speaker 1: Power of Thought podcast how Annie Basham influenced him with
Speaker 1: rounding the sniper course. But he said, like, the one
Speaker 1: up side of winning the cold medal was no one
Speaker 1: asks you who won the silver? Do you think that's
Speaker 1: a generational thing? Not not just thinking out loud, Um,
Speaker 1: it's usually the older generation. And I'm gonna use this
Speaker 1: example because I know that I know this the best
Speaker 1: hip hop, right. A lot of the older generation or
Speaker 1: older gentleman or individuals in hip hop don't like the
Speaker 1: newer generation, because I feel like the newer generation stop
Speaker 1: aspiring to be the best and focused on being them.
Speaker 1: And then our generation, the older hip hop generation, it
Speaker 1: was always who was the hottest m C, who's the best,
Speaker 1: who's the biggest? DMX is on top this year? Uh?
Speaker 1: Jay Z is on top, He's been on and you know,
Speaker 1: our generation has been has really embraced, embraced that competition,
Speaker 1: that competitive nature, that that aggression, that that purpose, that drive,
Speaker 1: you know. And then this newer generation, which the millennial generation,
Speaker 1: that's what they are. They're so comfortable in their skin
Speaker 1: that they're not trying to make music for everyone. They're
Speaker 1: making it for them. But the world is reciprocating their
Speaker 1: their harmony, that's what you call it. So and I
Speaker 1: just think that's the difference and and who we are
Speaker 1: as as a as a you know, when you get
Speaker 1: into when you get into like you know, special operations
Speaker 1: or you know that that top tier operator. You know, um,
Speaker 1: you know, we were always looking to be the best
Speaker 1: in that younger gener and that older generation. But I'm
Speaker 1: coming from I guess my mentality of this younger generation
Speaker 1: because I've I've accepted these these younger musicians like you know,
Speaker 1: Young Tug and little Oozy Vert because it's crazy. But
Speaker 1: you know what, like I like it, and I'm the
Speaker 1: type of person like if I like it, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm a defendant. You could call it whatever you want,
Speaker 1: but to my ears and my brain, it says, I
Speaker 1: like this melody, I like this tune. I like and
Speaker 1: that's art and that's and that's his activity, and you
Speaker 1: know what, he's making money off of it unapologetically. So
Speaker 1: I love that, you know. So you know, I guess
Speaker 1: the interesting. But what I'm trying to say is now
Speaker 1: I come from this generation like guys like Nick, guys
Speaker 1: like me, Guys like we're starting to come out and
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell you where our demons are. We're gonna
Speaker 1: tell you the skeletons in the closet. Because I've learned,
Speaker 1: if anything, in the last decade or so, especially with
Speaker 1: the with the Uh, with the the shine on reality TV,
Speaker 1: that that's what people want. People want to feel like
Speaker 1: they're normal. You know, I think music it might be
Speaker 1: a little different now, um, but with you know, sports,
Speaker 1: I think there's always good. People are always gonna want
Speaker 1: to see a Lebron James, just like a Michael Jordan people.
Speaker 1: People are always gonna want to see it. But what
Speaker 1: I'm saying is what's changed is the basketball players don't
Speaker 1: want to be it no more. You don't think Lebron
Speaker 1: he gave obviously well okay, and I'm gonna tell you why.
Speaker 1: You don't know if that was his true intentions or
Speaker 1: do through saturation of the tight in his direction, he
Speaker 1: assumed it. You know, does it really matter? I guess
Speaker 1: you think about it like that. I think sports and
Speaker 1: music is a little different, and I get it because
Speaker 1: it's also it's also a competitive thing. This is a
Speaker 1: question for you, um, because I've heard Nick talk about him,
Speaker 1: I've heard you talk about him. Do you think a
Speaker 1: guy like Carlo Carlos Hathcock was like was out there
Speaker 1: saying I'm the greatest, I'm the best because I've seen it,
Speaker 1: and I've seen it and I'm not from Carlos Hathcock.
Speaker 1: I've seen it from other snipers where they really make
Speaker 1: it a point to highlight their accomplishments. And you know
Speaker 1: this coming from a fucking guy that just wrote a book,
Speaker 1: right guys, No, sure, but you Nick, the guys I've
Speaker 1: interviewed a right like you Nick Brandon. You know Brandon,
Speaker 1: I have an interview. I did interview one time, but
Speaker 1: he's you know coast on here. Uh. All the snipers
Speaker 1: that we've had on here, even Chris Kyle when I
Speaker 1: watched back old footage, they never came out there and
Speaker 1: said I was the greatest sniper. They always, I think
Speaker 1: one to say like, hey, it's about the guys who
Speaker 1: are who I served with. UM, you know, I did
Speaker 1: my job. I think we're we're not that competitive anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I can't speak for everyone else. All I'm
Speaker 1: saying is I don't want the title. I never wanted
Speaker 1: the title. I just lived my fucking life the way
Speaker 1: I wanted to live it. You understand so, And naturally,
Speaker 1: because I'm that type of individual that i'm I'm that
Speaker 1: go getter. I'm very confrontational. I jump into I delve
Speaker 1: into things head first, you know, and that that's where
Speaker 1: you know life has taken me, or that has taken
Speaker 1: me to where I'm at in at this point in life. UM.
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't compete to be the best.
Speaker 1: I compete because I want to do great. I want
Speaker 1: to give a hundred percent and whatever I'm passionate about.
Speaker 1: Because there's things I'm not and I don't excel in
Speaker 1: because I'm not passionate about it. But I'll be damned
Speaker 1: it's something I love. I'm not regarded as good at
Speaker 1: it at very least. How about inc mahest. I mean,
Speaker 1: those guys compete to be yeah and so and and
Speaker 1: but yeah, but some of them don't deserve to even
Speaker 1: be there in the first place. I'm gonna know, everyone
Speaker 1: agrees America is not stupid. And like I said, you know,
Speaker 1: it's all about what the brain perceives as harmonious. That's
Speaker 1: what's called good art. Good work. Is that if the
Speaker 1: brain can see, there's a science. There's a science to color,
Speaker 1: color coordination, there's a science to um um uh, you know,
Speaker 1: relationships between lines, if ever naturally spiral things like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is science and and all these things
Speaker 1: translate to to how the brain perceives a certain sequence
Speaker 1: or a pattern of things. And and then your brain
Speaker 1: decides whether it's good or not. So there's guys that
Speaker 1: are You're on there, and so their very first tattoo,
Speaker 1: it's like, holy crap, a five year old could do it?
Speaker 1: Is what is this crap? Why they're on you know,
Speaker 1: but I get it because it's media as well. And
Speaker 1: this is my point, goes back to me, it goes
Speaker 1: back to sales, goes back to retail, goes back to
Speaker 1: you need the stark contrast, yeah, because you need someone
Speaker 1: who doesn't know this world. Yeah. Yeah. So you gotta
Speaker 1: understand that these people who like these producers, especially in
Speaker 1: reality TV. And this is one thing I learned through
Speaker 1: that they're going to school for media. They're they're ninjas
Speaker 1: in psychology. They know how to put people in situations
Speaker 1: and get their desired outcome. So I gotta ask you, man,
Speaker 1: you did some tattoos for Friday, where you know, you
Speaker 1: do the tattoos and a tradition kind of thing. Do
Speaker 1: you like doing those or do you really know? You know? Yes, Okay.
Speaker 1: So I'm at the point in my artistry where I
Speaker 1: only tattoo what I want to tattoo. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do something that I'm not gonna get any benefit out
Speaker 1: of it. You know, I'm not strapped for cash anymore,
Speaker 1: Thank God for that, you know, but I don't if
Speaker 1: it doesn't advance my artistry, I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 1: But that's tradition. And not only that you flex that muscle,
Speaker 1: because let me tell you that they's crazy. They come
Speaker 1: back to back and then you know, you get into
Speaker 1: you get into your swing, you get into your your routine.
Speaker 1: You know you said it up, you break down, you know,
Speaker 1: you know you you you talk to the client real quick,
Speaker 1: and then you you delegate authority to your apprentices. And
Speaker 1: it reminds me of the military. So I love those
Speaker 1: days because I get that rush again, like I got
Speaker 1: something to do. I got you know, whoever is in line.
Speaker 1: We got fifty people waiting for us. I'm gonna try
Speaker 1: to and then this is the competitive part of me
Speaker 1: inside the tattoo shop. I'm gonna get the most. That's
Speaker 1: that's my drive, you know. So I'm gonna bang out
Speaker 1: as many as I can here so that you know,
Speaker 1: people can see that I'm about business. I don't and
Speaker 1: that's my work ethic. I don't got time to sit
Speaker 1: down and bus with somebody, you know. I can do
Speaker 1: that when I'm on the run. So it reminds me
Speaker 1: of the drive that I still have inside. So I
Speaker 1: love those days and it doesn't bother me whatsoever. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to talk as I said about you know,
Speaker 1: Jack's wedding, as we did, and the release parties and
Speaker 1: and in all this, I forgot to even mention that
Speaker 1: it's your birthday today. Thank you for birthday to Jason
Speaker 1: who came in here like at the last minute, which
Speaker 1: I really appreciate. You know, I get the call and
Speaker 1: I'm cool like that, you know what I'm saying, thank
Speaker 1: you very much, patting myself on the back. No, but seriously,
Speaker 1: like you know, Brandon gave a call. He was, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, having a hard time getting in so and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I had nothna do really, even if it's
Speaker 1: my birthday. I like doing I love doing the show
Speaker 1: because I love being here with Ian. Ian is awesome, man.
Speaker 1: I mean he engages my brain. He engages my mind. No,
Speaker 1: he does, you do so to me, this is to me,
Speaker 1: coming out here is the equivalent of going to asana
Speaker 1: and the gym and having an argument political argument with Dominicans.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like this is my mental
Speaker 1: flex you know this. I come here to basically reaffirm
Speaker 1: that I know what the funk I'm talking about because
Speaker 1: I'm humble like that, you know, and and I try
Speaker 1: to see your point of view. I'm I've always been
Speaker 1: good at putting myself in other people's shoes. So if
Speaker 1: you have a valid point of avoid point of view,
Speaker 1: I'm a rock with you. You know. Even if the
Speaker 1: second previous to that, uh, you know that that epiphany
Speaker 1: I was against it or whatever it is we're discussing,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bow down and say, you know what, you're
Speaker 1: on point, I got you. I'm I'm I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: in that direction. So I think that that's a good
Speaker 1: mess we have going on here. What are your birthday plans?
Speaker 1: By the way, ship, I don't got nothing to do, Honestly.
Speaker 1: I woke up, I cleaned the crap out of my
Speaker 1: house because I was gone on a weekend. And you know,
Speaker 1: my dog Is is a huge press of Canario. So
Speaker 1: let's just say. You know, there was a lot of
Speaker 1: drywall on the floor because he loves eating rocks, Psycho man,
Speaker 1: and no big deal, you know what I mean. But
Speaker 1: I have people taking care of him, guys. It's just
Speaker 1: he's so big it's overwhelming for those people. So they
Speaker 1: just feed him and pick up his his poo. You know.
Speaker 1: So before we get to Jeff Gonzalez. UM, and you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm not even gonna act like this is
Speaker 1: in a live sequence for this one, because you jump
Speaker 1: in during the interview. So we were ready to recorded
Speaker 1: with Jeff consos and we're doing the intro. Now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he tried, he tried. He tried a ninja y'all. He
Speaker 1: tried a Jedi mind trick out. It's not gonna work
Speaker 1: for this one. So yeah, we we interviewed Jeff Consoz.
Speaker 1: But before we play that, UM, I was gonna mention
Speaker 1: that we were at the Big Mountain Heroes from here. UM.
Speaker 1: The materials for you guys who backed that on Kickstarter,
Speaker 1: those will be sent out really soon. I'm excited to
Speaker 1: send those out, the prints that Nick did an awesome
Speaker 1: job with. UM. So the big announcement is that we're
Speaker 1: now you know, if you didn't hear in the last episode,
Speaker 1: we're now doing two shows a week. But they're gonna
Speaker 1: be free in their entirety, which is just really cool. Man.
Speaker 1: So now if you you know, when there's breaking news,
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear it, whether you're a member or not. UM,
Speaker 1: what I would urge for you guys who did subscribe
Speaker 1: to the radio show and like, I really appreciate the
Speaker 1: support because you guys are like to die hard listeners.
Speaker 1: If you could, you know, update upgrade, I should say
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Speaker 1: he's a great dude. Um. So, before we get into
Speaker 1: the Jeff Gonzalez interview, which I start, and you'll hear
Speaker 1: Jason jump in when he gets into the studio, I
Speaker 1: did want to talk about and I gotta pull it
Speaker 1: up now. Um So, just I guess to to preface
Speaker 1: the clip as I look it up. Derek Gannon broke
Speaker 1: the piece about the Green Berets, the four Green Berets
Speaker 1: killed in Niger Africa, which was like a shock to
Speaker 1: the mainstream media that we even had troops in Africa. Uh,
Speaker 1: And there was some outrage I think among some in
Speaker 1: the veteran community, you know. Derek and Jack Murphy included
Speaker 1: that Trump did not bring this up at all, didn't
Speaker 1: make any mention of the four Green Berets killed. And
Speaker 1: I know that the argument has been, well, he can't
Speaker 1: mention every time that we have military killed. And and
Speaker 1: also this is a little bit of a peculiar circumstance
Speaker 1: because for one, it's in Niger Africa, and even though
Speaker 1: every single military member is extremely valuable. Green Berets, you know,
Speaker 1: just in terms of uh of where they they are
Speaker 1: in stature and all that there are really valuable asset.
Speaker 1: And when you lose four of those guys, it's something
Speaker 1: that the president should bring up. And I think people
Speaker 1: were just angered at the fact that, look, he's tweeting
Speaker 1: about the NFL, he's tweeting about all this other stuff,
Speaker 1: pay respects to these four Green Berets. So it was
Speaker 1: brought up in a press conference and I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 1: gonna look up the clip and I'm gonna get your
Speaker 1: reaction as I'm looking that up. But he kind of
Speaker 1: used that the moment to to knock former presidents, saying
Speaker 1: that he personally calls the gold Star families and that
Speaker 1: it was a procedure that these former presidents did not,
Speaker 1: And from what I've seen, that is not the case.
Speaker 1: A lot of you know, foreimer presidents did make it
Speaker 1: a point to call the families of those killed in action.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to hear your take. Oh, I was
Speaker 1: waiting for the clip. No, God, it no worries. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know how do I feel about that? Because
Speaker 1: he is you know how I feel about him. I mean,
Speaker 1: I respect the office, I respect the chair, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: him as an individual, I respect him tremendously. He's the
Speaker 1: president of the United States of America. And regardless whatever
Speaker 1: anyone feels, that man got there, that man one, you know.
Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna really, um go too far into
Speaker 1: him and his character. But what I will say is
Speaker 1: there's certain things that he does say at times that
Speaker 1: you know, are tasteless. So um, the fact that he
Speaker 1: mentioned that, I per se what it has said it.
Speaker 1: But then again, I'm not a billionaire that's been out
Speaker 1: of touch with you know, the perception or the the
Speaker 1: the caring of what perception is made of you. You know,
Speaker 1: like I'm still there. I still care about what people
Speaker 1: think about me, because you know, I got my family's
Speaker 1: name to honor and all this stuff. But let me
Speaker 1: play the clip, and you know, you know, but what
Speaker 1: I'm trying, what I'm trying to say is Okay, I
Speaker 1: get it. Um, but he didn't say he didn't. I mean,
Speaker 1: he did, right, he spoke to the fact. So let's
Speaker 1: play it so we have it in his own words,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to twist his words. And and
Speaker 1: you know, as you as the audience could take it
Speaker 1: as you are, Like I certainly took it the way
Speaker 1: I did. But let's let's check it out. Anything I've
Speaker 1: written them personal letters, Uh, they've been sent or they're
Speaker 1: going out tonight, but they were during the weekend. I
Speaker 1: will at some point during the the period of time
Speaker 1: call the parents and the families, because I have done
Speaker 1: that traditionally. I felt very very badly about that. I
Speaker 1: always feel badly. It's it's the toughest. The toughest calls
Speaker 1: I have to make are the calls where this happens,
Speaker 1: soldiers are killed. Uh, it's a very difficult thing. Now
Speaker 1: it gets to a point where you know, you make
Speaker 1: four or five of them in one day is a
Speaker 1: very very tough day for me. That's by far the toughest.
Speaker 1: So the traditional way. If you look at President Obama
Speaker 1: and other presidents, but most of them didn't make calls.
Speaker 1: A lot of them didn't make calls. I like to
Speaker 1: call when it's appropriate, when I think I'm able to
Speaker 1: do it. Uh. They have made the ultimate sacrifice. So
Speaker 1: generally I would say that I like to call. I'm
Speaker 1: going to be calling them. I went a little time
Speaker 1: to pass, I'm going to calling them. I have, as
Speaker 1: you know since I've been president, I have. But in addition,
Speaker 1: I actually wrote letters individually to the UH soldiers were
Speaker 1: talking about and they're going to be going out either
Speaker 1: today or tomorrow. All right, So that's the context first
Speaker 1: half of get it. But here here's here's what you know.
Speaker 1: You gotta understand background to this. That that that to
Speaker 1: that announcement, that addressing addressing that was not planned, that
Speaker 1: was on the fly, And how many presidents will come
Speaker 1: out during someone else's uh, you know, address and basically
Speaker 1: say hey, I'm here, guys, you guys got any questions
Speaker 1: on the fly, So he obviously he probably didn't even
Speaker 1: think about that, so that it should be especially but
Speaker 1: that tells you. But you guys understand that that lends
Speaker 1: to my my my assessment of the situation even more
Speaker 1: as evidence that that man is so out of touch
Speaker 1: with the perception of reality that he really thinks he
Speaker 1: can do no harm verbally. So he thinks he's just
Speaker 1: being regular Joe, and I see that in him, and
Speaker 1: like you know, when he was throwing the paper towels
Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico to the guys in the people in
Speaker 1: the crowd he was. He thought he was being a
Speaker 1: regular Joe. So whether it was premeditated or he thought
Speaker 1: maybe this would be a good idea, you know, I
Speaker 1: got the crowd rolled up or whatever. You know, it
Speaker 1: wasn't his intention to be little those people, but he
Speaker 1: was just unaware of the perception, just like he is
Speaker 1: unaware of the perception. And on top of that, it
Speaker 1: proves it because he said the same thing like nine times.
Speaker 1: You know, I'll get it. I think what he was
Speaker 1: trying to do is defend himself by saying I've done
Speaker 1: it before. He should have never said that. Past presidents
Speaker 1: have never done that, because I know that's that's a
Speaker 1: damn lie. So if anybody has any problem with anything
Speaker 1: that was just said by Trump, it would be that
Speaker 1: because that if you fact check it. I'm sure even
Speaker 1: Obama at some point it's called you know, the people
Speaker 1: that the family members of those who are draped in
Speaker 1: the flag. I think what often happens with him is
Speaker 1: he doesn't know where to end the statement. If he
Speaker 1: would have made that first half of the shouldn't he
Speaker 1: shouldn't do anything on the fly anymore With the first
Speaker 1: half of the statement, was fine. I think he didn't
Speaker 1: try to defend himself. He tried to defend himself because
Speaker 1: he knows and this is this is a direct reflection
Speaker 1: of of the media's onslaught on them. You know, they
Speaker 1: attack because he feels like he has to now put
Speaker 1: out fire while he's speaking, So instead of getting his
Speaker 1: message across, he's also defending every freaking phrase he says,
Speaker 1: because now everything that he comes out of his mouth
Speaker 1: is scrutinized, like to the highest levels. So now you're
Speaker 1: you're messing the man up, and you know, getting his
Speaker 1: point across. So I think, what, you know, who the
Speaker 1: hell am I? But if I was him? My guess.
Speaker 1: You know, at some point you have to sit back
Speaker 1: and realize that some people that are around you that
Speaker 1: are trying to give you advice as how to really
Speaker 1: get into take that ship is gone. Hold on, that's cold. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I know. So I thought that was my very
Speaker 1: white frog voice, that's my instructive But a lot of
Speaker 1: guys asked me, how does stats aren't Jones sound in
Speaker 1: real life? The stats aren't in my book. The heavy
Speaker 1: for for the book catch this. This is when you see, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is why he sounds like literally it was so freaky.
Speaker 1: It was like this. It was like, yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: play games. Yeah, it's so scary. I'm like, this is
Speaker 1: a grown man. What you talking about that? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: this was real life. Like this was like every morning,
Speaker 1: that's it that we hear they have a little nasty
Speaker 1: They're like, oh my god, hell girls, dude, what is
Speaker 1: this guy? So yeah, it was crazy. It's freaky man. Um.
Speaker 1: But nonetheless, what we were talking about, oh Trump, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he said, listen to the people around him in his corner, because, um,
Speaker 1: you're you're the president, like you said before a while,
Speaker 1: you know, when you were prompted or why you were
Speaker 1: asked why why didn't you why didn't you condemn the
Speaker 1: white nationalists or whatever activities during that situation where the
Speaker 1: individual got ran over, um, you know, and he said,
Speaker 1: I can't really keep condemning people because I'm a president
Speaker 1: of the people and that includes all people. So I
Speaker 1: mean it's a blanket thing. I get it. But he
Speaker 1: really failed on that. We talked about that that day.
Speaker 1: He failed on that opportunity to really unify righteousness, because
Speaker 1: that's just wrong to to kind of like, you know,
Speaker 1: not address that that that ignorance or that you know
Speaker 1: that that that's just it's just wrong. You have to
Speaker 1: address it. You're the president of the people that want
Speaker 1: to do good, want to do well. You know, you
Speaker 1: can draw a line and that's it's okay. You draw
Speaker 1: a line in the stand between those that don't. So
Speaker 1: listen to the people in your corner when they say,
Speaker 1: maybe you should have said this is a little bit inflammatory,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it kind of slow your
Speaker 1: role or practice talking a little bit more, you know,
Speaker 1: because that's where you're failing, sir. Honestly, all due respect,
Speaker 1: that's where I think his be like, hey, this is
Speaker 1: what got me elected. And that's the problem that billionaire arrogance.
Speaker 1: You have to understand, we don't relate to that. This
Speaker 1: isn't a fortune five company, This isn't where it's for profit,
Speaker 1: although it is his government a certain extent at it,
Speaker 1: but it's for advancement, you know. But I get it
Speaker 1: right there. Yeah, I'm sorry, I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: to water. I'm gonna I'm guessing scotch you in a minute. First, anyway,
Speaker 1: we're wrapping up in and but just funny that you
Speaker 1: get so passionate that you lose your fucking voice. But
Speaker 1: my point is like he just really needs to start
Speaker 1: working on his people's skills and with that he I
Speaker 1: think he has the potential to be a great president.
Speaker 1: He has to stop losing these opportunities. I hear you, Man. Well,
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Speaker 1: back on the podcast. It has actually been quite sometime
Speaker 1: since we've had Jeff on, and I'm really excited to
Speaker 1: speak with Jeff again, even though it'll be you know,
Speaker 1: a quick update. I know that you're busy, Jeff Gonzalez,
Speaker 1: former Navy Seal owner of Trident Concepts or Try Try
Speaker 1: Con Tried and Concepts dot com. Uh. Yeah, just good
Speaker 1: to have you back, man. I haven't actually spoken to
Speaker 1: you and probably over a year. It's been a while,
Speaker 1: and thanks. I'm happy to be back on the show.
Speaker 1: Really excited. You know, it's great to see how both
Speaker 1: parties are, you know, moving on their ultimate plan to
Speaker 1: take over the world. Yeah. Actually I did at least
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Speaker 1: and Concepts dot com. So look, I know that you
Speaker 1: can't really talk about this in depth, but I at
Speaker 1: least have to ask you. Recently put up a picture
Speaker 1: on Instagram shooting with Alex Jones, who we often make
Speaker 1: fun of on the podcast at times. I'm just wondering
Speaker 1: at least what you can say about the story behind
Speaker 1: that picture, just how he is off off airs as
Speaker 1: a person. Well, um, I really know him off air.
Speaker 1: So my interaction with him is, you know, he's a
Speaker 1: staunch support of the Constitution, particularly the Second Amendment. He
Speaker 1: veheminently believes in our freedoms. You know, I know that
Speaker 1: he might rub some people the wrong way. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, I'm always I always kind
Speaker 1: of take a step back and I'll ask people, okay, so,
Speaker 1: and what are you doing to ensure freedom? Okay, thank you. So,
Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those things where you love
Speaker 1: him or or hate him. You know, he does do
Speaker 1: some good work on that end. Um, he's a shooter.
Speaker 1: He's an avid shooter. He likes to shoot. I feel
Speaker 1: very fortunate that I get to, um, you know, pop
Speaker 1: some rounds every now and then with him. So it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of fun. It's a perk to the job.
Speaker 1: So I can't really complain. Yeah, Well, the thing is,
Speaker 1: so I'm a big fan of Joe Rogan's podcast and
Speaker 1: who's a friend of alex Is. And the thing that
Speaker 1: he always seems to insist is that he's not he's
Speaker 1: you know, he's not the same guy as he is
Speaker 1: when he's doing his radio show. Yeah, it's a I
Speaker 1: think that's I think that's the the burden that many
Speaker 1: celebrities are shouldered with is that there's an on screen
Speaker 1: or you know that that kind of like public persona,
Speaker 1: and then there's their real persona, you know, And so
Speaker 1: I feel like that's probably I think that would be
Speaker 1: safe to say about many of those, you know, those
Speaker 1: types of celebrities. Yeah, I think that's true for a
Speaker 1: lot of people. So getting into things that we could
Speaker 1: actually discuss here a little bit more in depth. You're
Speaker 1: a member of the n r a is Education and
Speaker 1: Training Committee. Um, and as people know you, you know,
Speaker 1: you have your own company with tried and concepts of
Speaker 1: training people to shoot. So what what what have you
Speaker 1: been up to with them? Well, um, you know, I've
Speaker 1: I've you know again, And the n r A is
Speaker 1: another organization that sometimes rubs people the wrong way but
Speaker 1: again I'll point to, you know, what are you doing
Speaker 1: to support your you know, or ensure your freedom, I
Speaker 1: should say, And I really believe the mission that the
Speaker 1: n r A has um recently. I feel very confident
Speaker 1: in their movement towards really trying to be the you know,
Speaker 1: the best way to put it, it's like the the
Speaker 1: main consortium for you know, education and training for what
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Speaker 1: You know, not necessarily your high end, high speed low
Speaker 1: drag operator, or your swap comp or even the enthusiast
Speaker 1: that goes out there and trains every month, but the
Speaker 1: average person that I believe kind of gets left in
Speaker 1: the cracks. And and here's the reason why I'm so
Speaker 1: happy to be working with them. You know, my new
Speaker 1: position here as director of Training at Ephill Indoor Facility
Speaker 1: in Austin has put me back in touch with the
Speaker 1: first time gun owner and the new shooter and I
Speaker 1: for a good chunk of my training time have been
Speaker 1: spending it with the you know, the other end of
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Speaker 1: So the n r A is doing a very good
Speaker 1: job in that sense. And um, they've been very proactive
Speaker 1: and trying to bring in new ideas and new talent.
Speaker 1: Um me being a part of the new committee there
Speaker 1: is is a good indicator of that. And there are
Speaker 1: several other folks that are out there that part of that.
Speaker 1: So I'm I'm expecting some really promising things as we
Speaker 1: move forward. In so, uh, as I said to you,
Speaker 1: Jason Delgado was going to come in, he actually did
Speaker 1: just get here. Which I will not throw Jason under
Speaker 1: the bus. You kind of got asked last minute to
Speaker 1: run in here. Um. But to give you Jason's background,
Speaker 1: Jason is a Marine scott sniper uh MARSK instructor currently
Speaker 1: a tattoo artist. But I figured that that it would
Speaker 1: be cool to have both of you guys on because
Speaker 1: even though this is what you do professionally, I know
Speaker 1: Jason has trained some people and shooting as well outside
Speaker 1: of the military. Um, so I don't know if you
Speaker 1: want to get into kind of your technique of training
Speaker 1: people to shoot Jason, And I'm wondering, like how it
Speaker 1: might differ from a guy like Jeff who who was
Speaker 1: in the Seals. Um, my techniques are to observe. First,
Speaker 1: I have to see what they're doing going wrong, you know,
Speaker 1: so we'll get them on the line. And this is
Speaker 1: if they're already at the point where they're proficient with
Speaker 1: the safety fundamentals, you know what I mean. So if
Speaker 1: they're not there, it's pointless for me to critique on
Speaker 1: their marksmanship, you know what I mean. So I gotta
Speaker 1: make sure they're there at least a baseline. Um. Then
Speaker 1: I just see what I see what the rounds are
Speaker 1: doing down range, you know, and from there I can read,
Speaker 1: you know, consistent patterns, and I know what it looks for,
Speaker 1: you know, if it's too much trigger, too little trigger,
Speaker 1: if it's um you know, inadequate recoil support, you know whatever.
Speaker 1: So I I just I just watch, you know, and
Speaker 1: you know, the target will tell you what's going on.
Speaker 1: You just gotta read it. So sorry about that jumped in, really, man,
Speaker 1: I try to get down here as fast as I can.
Speaker 1: You know, I was I was doing Willie, So do
Speaker 1: you have a different um, a different philosophy than that
Speaker 1: or or do you think because the thing that I'm
Speaker 1: wondering is there is there are a lot of guys
Speaker 1: in this industry who are former special operations military who
Speaker 1: are teaching training courses. So it just makes me wonder, like,
Speaker 1: is there a difference in technique from what a guy
Speaker 1: like Jason is going to show you versus you know,
Speaker 1: what you're going to show someone. There's a couple of things.
Speaker 1: First of all, like, uh, A big thing that I
Speaker 1: always talked to about is is it's one thing to
Speaker 1: hear somebody talk about instructing, but the real question that
Speaker 1: new shooters and particularly need to be asking is why
Speaker 1: is the instructor doing the instructing? So that question that
Speaker 1: people have to ask, and I think, yeah, So it's
Speaker 1: like there's so many people that um are illuminated by
Speaker 1: a brand or a reputation or a particular unit or
Speaker 1: a particular way of life. But and that's great, And
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take away anything from any of
Speaker 1: those guys. I'm one of them myself. But what I
Speaker 1: try to encourage the new shooters is you've got to
Speaker 1: understand why is the instructor doing what he's doing, because
Speaker 1: that that ties into passion and purpose. And when you
Speaker 1: have passion and purpose, then all of a sudden and
Speaker 1: all the other material comes comes into place. You know,
Speaker 1: everything that Jason, that you said, correct that's what we
Speaker 1: reference as corrective strategy. All of that is a major
Speaker 1: part of any curriculum that you have, that speech and
Speaker 1: new shooters to advance shooters about how to improve their game.
Speaker 1: So for me, you know, that's like the first stepping stone.
Speaker 1: And I have had this conversation with a lot of
Speaker 1: other people like, hey, listen, you know you you're looking
Speaker 1: at a lot of operative options nowadays, and it's hard
Speaker 1: to weed through all of this, particularly as a new
Speaker 1: shoot I mean, look at it. Marketing, the social media.
Speaker 1: I mean when I started out, there wasn't social media,
Speaker 1: there wasn't any of that stuff. You cut your teeth
Speaker 1: by doing it, you know, the hard way, which is
Speaker 1: getting out there and and recruiting students and converting them
Speaker 1: into returns because because if you less social media, tell
Speaker 1: it there's like a thousand you know, gun gods out there,
Speaker 1: and you know that's not true because you know, I
Speaker 1: think and this is alluding to what you're where you're going.
Speaker 1: You know, there are a lot of instructors, but not
Speaker 1: everyone has what it takes to be a teacher. To
Speaker 1: be an instructor, you know, just because you have the
Speaker 1: background doesn't mean you're a teacher. You know, it's a
Speaker 1: totally different aspect of that that industry that people need
Speaker 1: to understand. You have to be able to reach someone
Speaker 1: one on one, understand what their deficiencies are, but also
Speaker 1: get to know them personally, what you know personality wise,
Speaker 1: so you know what works for them, because it's not
Speaker 1: just hey, I know this information, here you go, because
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to deal with frustration. And you know,
Speaker 1: all the all the quirks were teaching, but not everybody
Speaker 1: could do it, you know, And I don't know is
Speaker 1: that is that? Yeah? So oh no, you're absolutely right there.
Speaker 1: There there are a lot of guys, you know, like, um,
Speaker 1: it is hard to to to take the experience that
Speaker 1: that you know, that we have gained in our years
Speaker 1: and to kind of consolidate that into a curriculum. It's hard.
Speaker 1: It's hard to do that. Then to take that curriculum
Speaker 1: and then to be able to convey that to a
Speaker 1: student so that they can really absorb that material, retain it,
Speaker 1: and then apply it if necessary. So the hard part,
Speaker 1: you know, like we do UM, we do instructor selection
Speaker 1: here for our instructor staff about twice a year, and
Speaker 1: you know, we start off with about thirty five resumes,
Speaker 1: and you know, you little through these. You got the
Speaker 1: ones with the fairy dust, the fairy dust on it. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't want. I don't care what the resumes start with.
Speaker 1: You know, what I look for is that, you know,
Speaker 1: first and foremost, Wren, you did you earn your living
Speaker 1: as a professional instructor? That's the first thing. I don't
Speaker 1: care if it was with the Marine Corps, the Cares,
Speaker 1: with the arm Maynal, it was the Navy, of the
Speaker 1: Air Force, or with any other institution organization, but did
Speaker 1: you earn your keep as an instructor? Because that to me,
Speaker 1: you know, the military does a really good job of structure.
Speaker 1: You know, that's one thing that we can say, regardless
Speaker 1: of branch, that there exist in all branches great structure.
Speaker 1: So they have that going into it, you know, and
Speaker 1: as we whittle through those that resumes and resumes go
Speaker 1: to interviews. Interviews goes the skills assessment. By the time
Speaker 1: I get to the skills assessment, I can kind of
Speaker 1: tell who are those individuals that are going to have
Speaker 1: the best chance of being able to convey the message
Speaker 1: convey the message because pretty much everybody that made it
Speaker 1: to my door has the subject matter expertise. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be looking at them or talking to them if they
Speaker 1: didn't have that, and they just have to meet you
Speaker 1: the extra distance, Yeah, with the with the actual experience
Speaker 1: in getting the message out as you say, you know,
Speaker 1: because that's what it's out about at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. You know, you were not just sitting around
Speaker 1: for you know, one to three a week, two weeks.
Speaker 1: You know, if this time frame just to you know,
Speaker 1: waste time and money and effort, and then they just
Speaker 1: you know, what what are you doing? Can you get
Speaker 1: the point to the individual you know, and they need
Speaker 1: to understand it's not occur it's not It's not like
Speaker 1: something you just walk in and do. Like you know,
Speaker 1: you're not like a ticket made or something, you know,
Speaker 1: going around giving people parking tickets. You don't just step
Speaker 1: into this career. You know, you have to be able
Speaker 1: to thrive in it, especially for the brand and when
Speaker 1: and that's a that's a huge point that you bring in.
Speaker 1: You know, you have to be able, you really do.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where you see the good instructors
Speaker 1: from the mediocre instructors. They are the instructors like we
Speaker 1: we talk about this in our like like we have.
Speaker 1: You know, our reputation is pretty much um standard. You know,
Speaker 1: you're you're gonna come in and you're gonna be faced
Speaker 1: with some very challenging standards that you have to be
Speaker 1: and and that that's just the way it is. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, I have an obligation to ensure
Speaker 1: that that student has a positive experience. And we define
Speaker 1: positive as they're able to meet those standards. And so
Speaker 1: when they leave the class with a positive experience, they
Speaker 1: go home, they want to practice, they want to keep
Speaker 1: getting better, They get that fire in the gut to
Speaker 1: want to improve. And you know, eventually what happens is
Speaker 1: we as instructors, we put are we basically put ourselves
Speaker 1: out of a job because we have created in the
Speaker 1: student that urge to learn and gain knowledge and practice
Speaker 1: and all that other business. And eventually they become I
Speaker 1: mean at some point, the students are going to go
Speaker 1: off on their own. You know what, what when does
Speaker 1: that happen? I don't know, but we see it where
Speaker 1: a student has just kind of gone to the point
Speaker 1: where they feel like they can do it on their own,
Speaker 1: and maybe occasionally they'll pop into it. Well, well, let's
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure you're not you're not um um,
Speaker 1: you're you're your knowledgeable of a lot of the instructors
Speaker 1: in the soulcon community believe it or not, come from
Speaker 1: like a civilian background, you know. Some of them they
Speaker 1: the guest instructors. So it blows my mind that you
Speaker 1: bring that up, because it's true. We're giving them all
Speaker 1: these jewels and then eventually, you know, padawan will become
Speaker 1: the master, you know what I mean, And they're gonna
Speaker 1: go out and they're gonna start their own shooting courses.
Speaker 1: Like I see guys all the time online that are
Speaker 1: no military back. I think one guy is a priest,
Speaker 1: and this guy has like one of the fastest appendix
Speaker 1: draws I've seen in my life for a priest. Styles
Speaker 1: that's a bad priest right there. So yeah, I I
Speaker 1: I completely agree. We're gonna we're so good we're gonna
Speaker 1: run ourselves out of work, and that's okay, because there's
Speaker 1: plenty of work there. There's always gonna be there. You know.
Speaker 1: One of the things that that I am starting to
Speaker 1: really appreciate is my position right now, are most and uh, Jason,
Speaker 1: I was saying this before you came on the show,
Speaker 1: but are our most popular clientele that we see right
Speaker 1: now are new gun owners, new shooters, first time gun owners,
Speaker 1: and new shooters. They you have to you have to
Speaker 1: get excited about them going the extra mile to want
Speaker 1: to become proficient at it. That's crazy for someone to
Speaker 1: realize they're like, Okay, there's a whole level to this,
Speaker 1: and then seek you out to bring them to that level. Man.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, you know that you you you have to
Speaker 1: you have to be able to play along with that
Speaker 1: because that's that's you know, that's attributing to the responsibility
Speaker 1: of gun ownership in America. And that's a big deal.
Speaker 1: Like it starts at you, and that's that's that's pretty
Speaker 1: awesome if you think about it. And that's what I
Speaker 1: was trying to say. It's like, um, like the most
Speaker 1: like we're dealing with a whole new generation of sorts
Speaker 1: of people, these this generation, they are truly interested in education,
Speaker 1: and they are small people, at least the people in
Speaker 1: this area, not to say the people throughout the country
Speaker 1: or not, but we typically have a very high tech
Speaker 1: industry here in the central Texas area. Austin UM and
Speaker 1: so all of um, you know, I should say, oh,
Speaker 1: but the good majority of these people have the common
Speaker 1: sense to know, Okay, you know what I don't know,
Speaker 1: and this is what I love. More of them have
Speaker 1: the idea of that old mantra. You know, if you
Speaker 1: knew that you didn't know anything, you would be knowledgeable.
Speaker 1: And and they a lot of these people have that
Speaker 1: kind of content. They're like, I don't know anything about
Speaker 1: gun that I want to learn. I want to get
Speaker 1: I want to be able to protect myself and want
Speaker 1: to be able to have a gun in my home.
Speaker 1: I want to be able to protect my family. And
Speaker 1: they realize they lack those skills. And another thing too,
Speaker 1: that I know you you can appreciate this, Jason, is
Speaker 1: that there's not quite so much of the alpha mentality
Speaker 1: in a lot of these people because they're just it's
Speaker 1: already it's already established when your background with your you know,
Speaker 1: because you know, there's people out there that been through
Speaker 1: your courses and they say, Okay, this is who he is.
Speaker 1: And you know, I can't. You know, you can't. You
Speaker 1: can't praise yourself in front of other people. So your work,
Speaker 1: you know, your your reputation, your reputation precedes you. And
Speaker 1: now the students that you start to acquire down the line,
Speaker 1: are you know, bright eyed, bushy tail and wow, that
Speaker 1: makes the experience of teaching that much better. You know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, I appreciate it really does. And and and
Speaker 1: that's that's what I really enjoy the most, is that
Speaker 1: we're now and like you and like I like how
Speaker 1: you phrase that, you know, teachers, because that's how we
Speaker 1: look at ourselves. We look at ourselves as educators, where
Speaker 1: we consider ourselves a schoolhouse. We we don't look ourselves
Speaker 1: as the range. We're schoolhouse. We have educators and teachers. Um,
Speaker 1: you know our goal and we provide the instruction. But
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you Why wouldn't you there there's physics involved,
Speaker 1: there's science involved, you know, there there's physiology involved. It
Speaker 1: is an academy. It is a school. You're learning a lot,
Speaker 1: you're learning about you're learning about mindset, you're learning about
Speaker 1: the physiology or your body when is in at high
Speaker 1: stressed environment. Yeah, your teaching your this is an academy.
Speaker 1: You know, this is the real deal. And that's the
Speaker 1: thing that we have really embraced here and in the
Speaker 1: last three or four years, we've really kind of taken that,
Speaker 1: We've taken on that responsibility of trying to shift away
Speaker 1: because unfortunately, there is a negative stigma assigned to Pius.
Speaker 1: You know, we can't dispute that, but the way that
Speaker 1: we counter it, and this is one of the things
Speaker 1: that I encourage any of the new instructors coming up
Speaker 1: in the businesses is to be open about it and
Speaker 1: to be engaging and to to put yourself in a
Speaker 1: different position as an educator, because when you can communicate
Speaker 1: with the opposing view from an educational point of view,
Speaker 1: like wait a minute, I'm here, I'm going to talk
Speaker 1: about education, it really kind of steals a lot of
Speaker 1: the toxicity that they would have towards you because you're
Speaker 1: just you're at this point, you're an educator. Yeah, never
Speaker 1: mind the fact that I might have been, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: a military member, or I'm a police officer or you know,
Speaker 1: God for did I'm a freedom loving American. I'm at
Speaker 1: this point when I'm communicating with you, I'm an educator,
Speaker 1: and my job is to try to educate you, and
Speaker 1: I expect you to do the same thing to me.
Speaker 1: I want you to educate me on your point of
Speaker 1: view so that I can make an informed decision. And
Speaker 1: the moment that we start those conversations in that manner,
Speaker 1: it changes things. It really does. Like you're either gonna
Speaker 1: you're gonna learn real quick like this guy, Uh, there's
Speaker 1: not gonna be any value in this conversation whatsoever. Right,
Speaker 1: It's just like the wall has come up and there's
Speaker 1: no bother there's no point in going forward. But the
Speaker 1: other times, and that's the beautiful thing about Austin, Dean In, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know where we're at. In Austin, there's a there's
Speaker 1: a liberal slant, and we get folks that I've in Austin.
Speaker 1: Austin is like a mini San Diego was the same
Speaker 1: amount of bums. Yes, yes, so we get we get
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are curious, they want to learn,
Speaker 1: they want to know more. And that's why education is
Speaker 1: so so important. And I got a bottom line, it's
Speaker 1: I'm sorry disclaimer out there for my sensitive audience members. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean bums because they're like the youngest homeless people
Speaker 1: I've seen in my life. They're like twenty two and homeless.
Speaker 1: What what? What? What the most expensive guitar in the world?
Speaker 1: You know, get it? Am I right? Is that not awesome?
Speaker 1: It could? You know? I haven't seen that yet, but
Speaker 1: I with the most expressive guitar. But I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: out there. I am sure you know. And and it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't. I don't worry about whether or not.
Speaker 1: You know, we have this conversation earlier today. I don't
Speaker 1: worry about whether or not. What I worry about. What
Speaker 1: I worried the most about is there are people that
Speaker 1: are out there that want to learn, that are interested
Speaker 1: genuinely in improving their knowledge base as it relates to
Speaker 1: firearms and firearm usage. And what I'm worry about is
Speaker 1: that they're being deprived of good source of information by
Speaker 1: the opposing view right there, just shutting it down. There,
Speaker 1: They're they're saying there's no value in it, which is
Speaker 1: the exact opposite. I mean, let's talk let's talk about policy.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about strategy at one point? Has absolutism ever helped?
Speaker 1: I mean, let's look at the war on drugs? How
Speaker 1: effective was the war on drugs as far as absolutism? Um? Really, so,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole their whole strategy needs to change,
Speaker 1: and just they want to be successful here because there
Speaker 1: are more people that are interested in educating themselves than
Speaker 1: just following the party line and saying, oh, all guns
Speaker 1: are evil, they must be destroyed. You know. So we're
Speaker 1: seeing that shift in our demographics here locally because we
Speaker 1: have a lot of people that are just that, you know,
Speaker 1: that's the thing that we talk about. You know, we
Speaker 1: cater to a different clientele. That clientele are interested in
Speaker 1: educating themselves to make their own minds of Yeah, absolutely so, Jeff,
Speaker 1: I I know that you're limited on time. If this
Speaker 1: is the last thing that we could get to, you
Speaker 1: could just let me know. But um, with the Vegas shooting,
Speaker 1: I know that unfortunately, when these type of events happen
Speaker 1: in an industry like yours, you know, it's unfortunate circumstances,
Speaker 1: but it seems like it boots up the gun industry
Speaker 1: and the training industry. So I'm just wondering for one,
Speaker 1: what advice would you give to people who are in
Speaker 1: a disastrous situation like that where they need to be prepared?
Speaker 1: And also just what have you seen with your business
Speaker 1: post the Vegas shooting? Has it affected tried and concepts
Speaker 1: in any way? Um So the advice that's a tough one,
Speaker 1: because you know, how can you prepare for something like that?
Speaker 1: I don't think you really can outside of just your
Speaker 1: everyday carry mindset, you know, like you just you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's nothing that you could have carried into that
Speaker 1: establishment that I think would have made a difference from
Speaker 1: the firearm perspective. So what I put, what I pushed
Speaker 1: very strongly is um more on the side of medical,
Speaker 1: like what can you do medically to help prepare for
Speaker 1: some of those types of events? I think I think
Speaker 1: that that's probably the best, Like the most discussions that
Speaker 1: I've had post Vegas have had to deal with and
Speaker 1: this is the case for many of these events. You
Speaker 1: look at the Boston Marathon, you look at some of
Speaker 1: these other mass shootings, UM and what really helps is
Speaker 1: timely medical treatment. That's what saves lives of those that
Speaker 1: were potentially bleeding out. They were savable, you know, they
Speaker 1: they could have survived had they had access to the treatment.
Speaker 1: But they could have probably survived at least if they
Speaker 1: had medical treatment on the on site and there was
Speaker 1: there's dozens of stories of of people being able to
Speaker 1: apply you know whatever however you want to call a
Speaker 1: teacher will see you know, you know, combat medicine or
Speaker 1: just basic first day, they probably saved more people from dying.
Speaker 1: So that would be my my advice to seek out
Speaker 1: some medical training and then you know, if you are
Speaker 1: interested in protecting yourself, it's it's a I think it's
Speaker 1: more of a mindset issue than like what kind of
Speaker 1: weapons should I carry? What kind of knife should I have?
Speaker 1: I think the first thing that people have to do
Speaker 1: is acknowledge that we live in a dangerous world. Violence
Speaker 1: is all around us, and I need to do something.
Speaker 1: I need to do something to protect myself. And what
Speaker 1: is that? Um? I think it starts with the mindset,
Speaker 1: you know, being able to acknowledge that and and just
Speaker 1: kind of come over that. And once you get over
Speaker 1: that hill, well that's it's yeah, because the possibility, the
Speaker 1: thought is there, so in in in in a situation
Speaker 1: when you were when you already know something is above
Speaker 1: baseline or out of the ordinary. Your your your brain
Speaker 1: is telling you this is a possibility, and then from
Speaker 1: that point you can react because you're not going to
Speaker 1: go into that initial shock of trying to absorb what's
Speaker 1: happening to you while it's happening to you. So I agree,
Speaker 1: I bare minimum people need to understand that there's a
Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that can happen to one
Speaker 1: out there that you have to stay sharp. You know,
Speaker 1: when people throw around that term stay frosty, you know,
Speaker 1: they think it's a cute thing, but at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, it really is about that. It's about
Speaker 1: being aware, you know, and not being vulnerable. So you know, Um,
Speaker 1: if you have more time, I would like to continue,
Speaker 1: but if not, we can you know, we can end
Speaker 1: it there. That's what you know, if you want, it's
Speaker 1: up to you. I feel like that. Okay, So what
Speaker 1: I want to ask you because because you're you're you're
Speaker 1: in a you're in a position, a leadership position, right
Speaker 1: obviously you're you're you're the head of your schoolhouse. Um,
Speaker 1: do do you have mannerisms that that's similar to maybe
Speaker 1: like Jacko waking up like zero four thirty in the
Speaker 1: morning every day or or you know, there are they things?
Speaker 1: Are they things you do like you know to shape
Speaker 1: your your lifestyle so that you know you're coming in
Speaker 1: with that mindset? You know, what do you do to
Speaker 1: sharpen your mindset? I don't have anything that's really black
Speaker 1: and white. It's it's several things for me, um, you know,
Speaker 1: as as as a father, you know, I look at
Speaker 1: how to protect my my family. That's that's always been
Speaker 1: a prime directive, you know. So I always am thinking
Speaker 1: about what how do I do that? And that requires
Speaker 1: you know, tools, that requires training. Even in my position,
Speaker 1: that still requires tools and training. Um, you know, when
Speaker 1: I think about how can I do that better? And
Speaker 1: how can I improve past? You know, I guess it's
Speaker 1: the same intirely that I have from the Navy's side
Speaker 1: of the house, which is, you know, I need to
Speaker 1: be able to do my job better than anybody lest
Speaker 1: even my own teammates. And so in this case, my
Speaker 1: job just transfers over to protecting my family and now
Speaker 1: taking that information and provided into other families to be
Speaker 1: able to use as well. Um, how I do that?
Speaker 1: You know, I train, continue to train. I don't get
Speaker 1: probably too often but I believe very strongly in physical preparedness.
Speaker 1: I'm a big proponent for that, So I do feel
Speaker 1: like that's a critical element that's missing its insights. It's
Speaker 1: so bad that when I am asked by students what
Speaker 1: can I do to get better as a shooter, in
Speaker 1: my head a lot of times I'm thinking, you just
Speaker 1: need to get stronger. That's what you need to do. Um.
Speaker 1: It's true. Most of the time people will benefit time
Speaker 1: just being healthier, fit, or stronger, faster and well a
Speaker 1: lot of yeah, a lot of shooting, you know, does
Speaker 1: does uh engage your core. So the stronger your core,
Speaker 1: the more accurate you can become as well. So, hey,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on. I really appreciate it. Didn't
Speaker 1: mean to keep you going. Man, I'm sorry, and I'm
Speaker 1: sorry yes for you know it's it's it's all good. Idea.
Speaker 1: Once again, thanks for doing this, Jeff, once again. Jeff
Speaker 1: is a former Navy seal owner of Tried and Concepts,
Speaker 1: also known as tri Con Tried and Concepts dot com.
Speaker 1: The one thing I could speak highly of the shirts.
Speaker 1: The shirts are badass. That's a pimp name con. If
Speaker 1: you saw the shirts that I'm wearing in the Rob
Speaker 1: O'Neil interview. The red shirt. That's one of the shirts.
Speaker 1: Um so once again member of the n r a
Speaker 1: IS Education and Trading Committee. You could follow Tried and
Speaker 1: concept Congratulations on on Instagram at Trident Concepts on Instagram,
Speaker 1: at Jeff L. Gonzalez on Twitter at j L Underscore
Speaker 1: Gonzalez on Instagram, and the website is Tried and Concepts
Speaker 1: dot com. Thanks again for doing this, Jeff. Next time
Speaker 1: we'll go longer. Am I going to see you at
Speaker 1: a shot show? Absolutely? Yeah, I will absolutely be there. Gonzales.
Speaker 1: What was that last name? You Mexican? Caribbean? Wait, it's funny.
Speaker 1: I'm actually American. I'm American too. Where does the name
Speaker 1: come from? Man? Every everything, that's the standards, everybody. Um,
Speaker 1: it goes you know, my trail goes all the way
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